Re: Problem with A contact on a lens

2003-09-16 Thread John Francis
 
 Basically the camera doesn't recognise the fact that the aperture
 ring is in the A position, so I can't use shutter priority modes.
 
 Do you have other F/FA lenses to test and see if it's the lens or camera 
 problem?

Oh, yes.  This lens (and only this lens) fails to register as in the
A position on my MZ-S, PZ-1p  SF-1.  I haven't tested it on the
Super Program because that would mean digging around in another box.

 I suggest you try other F/FA lenses before you do anything crazy. The 
 brushes (one for aperture, one for distance info) in these lenses could be 
 destroyed easily if you don't know the proper procedure.

I've done that.  No other lens exhibits this problem.
 
   I'd also like to know what the likelihood is that this could be
   something I could repair myself, something a typical neighbourhood
   camera repairer could fix, or something that will have to go back
   to Pentax.
 
 If the brush contact is dirty or coated with grease (and that part of the 
 lens is greasy on purpuse), the fix is easy. Just remove the mount, clean 
 the contacts, and the assemble. But clear threadlock should be applied to 
 the lens mount screws, and the proper one is Threebond 1401 (can be found 
 in Fargo). But the smallest bottle is 200g which is quite big. If the chip 
 is fired, the whole circuit must be replaced (but this must be very rare). 

I doubt if the main chip on the lens is fried; I'm getting all the electronic
aperture display (which comes through the digital contact pin).

I'll try and find the multimeter to confirm the hypothesis that the pin
isn't being shorted to the lens mount when the ring is in the A position
before I go much further.

 The job is not very difficult if you know how, but not recommend if you 
 haven't done it before.

I haven't.  I suspect my local camera repair shop has, though.
(Apollo Camera in Sunnyvale - they're quite good with Pentax gear)



RE: Which two zooms?

2003-09-16 Thread Hans Beumer
If you would make the one-zoom choice I would recommend the Tokina AT-X
24-200mm zoom. I've got it most of the time on my MZ-5. (and primes on my
MX). It's an okay lens. And has got a nice 24mm! Sharpness is beter then
tamron's. But it's bigger and heavier, and got a little more distortion than
the tamron at the wide-end.
It's hard to get in europe  (the K-mount version, I think I've got the only
one in the netherlands, a german reseller especially imported it at my
request!), but in the US it should be no problem.
Best regards, Hans.

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: J. C. O'Connell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Verzonden: dinsdag 16 september 2003 2:22
Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Onderwerp: RE: Which two zooms?


If speed and constant aperture are not
required, I would seriously consider the
excellent tamron 28-200XR series lens.
jco



 J.C. O'Connell   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://jcoconnell.com



-Original Message-
From: Patrick Wunsch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 6:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Which two zooms?


I am looking for your recommendations for two zoom lenses covering the 28mm
to 200mm range approximately.  What are the better, yet affordable Pentax
zooms in that range?  Which ones should I avoid?  I will be using them on a
ZX-5N primarily so AF would be a plus.

Thanks

Pat Wunsch

- Original Message -
From: Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: Four lenses


 I don't know if it's the identical lens in K mount but there is
 a SMCP 85mm f1.8, which is exceedingly well thought of.  They
 always seem sell at a premium on e-bay regardless of described
 condition.

 At 12:28 PM 9/11/03 -0700, you wrote:
 Did that get made in a K-mount?
 I could use it via an adapter, but it would be more convenient if...
 
 keith whaley
 
 J. C. O'Connell wrote:
  
   In M42, the 85mm F1.8 SMCT is the one
   to get but it sells for about $200-300
   used.

 To grasp the true meaning of socialism, imagine a world where everything
is
 designed by
  the post office, even the sleaze.
  O'Rourke, P.J.







Re: Long zoom macro lens?

2003-09-16 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 11:09:38 +0530
 Gaurav Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,

I have been reading the posts for around 5-6 months now. I have a 
Pentax ME Super with M50/1.7 (and a PZ-1 also which I don't use 
though). 

I now realize that I would like to have a longish zoom for taking
portraits of family, street photography, birds etc. Also, I have 
never done macro but would want that feature as well. 
You already have 50/1.7 and ME Super. May I suggest slightly different 
approach? You could look for Panagor Macro Converter ($20 or so I 
think). It would turn your 50/1.7 into macro zoom lens with macro 
factor changing from 1:10 to 1:1 (lifesize). The weight of converter 
is no more than 200 gr. Adding to that weight of 50 mm lens, I think 
your weight requirement will be met. The results however are most 
probably better than any zoom lens with macro setting. Notice that you 
would be using a 50 mm prime as an optical basis.

You can see few photos I made with this combo here: 
http://www.geocities.com/dunno57/macro-photos.htm.
By the way all shots there were made handheld...

As a starting kit for Macro Work I think this is very viable option.

Good hunting.

Boris



Re: Talking of Taxes

2003-09-16 Thread Otis C. Wright, Jr.
During the decade or so I operated a business in Oz,  I seem to remember 
that, amongst other powers held at that time, sales tax agents could 
arrive without notice and  hold corp officers for 24 hours without 
benefit of counsel.   Always tended to make one very careful to keep 
good records and quite cooperative during the annual visits.   A few 
good war stories on that front.  Great memories.As I recall,  at 
that time,  income tax agents were not afforded such powers ---.   

Otis Wright

John Coyle wrote:

Frank, you'll appreciate this.

The Australian tax-man wanting  it all  his own way: Section 92(2) of the
Sales Tax Assessment Bill:
 For the purposes of cancelling a tax benefit, the Commissioner may, in the
assessment, determine any or all of the following:
(a) that particular things are to be treated as not having happened;
(b) that particular things are to be treated as having been done by a
different person or to have happened at a different time;
(c) that particular things that did not actually happen are to be treated as
having happened and, where appropriate:
(i) to have been done by a particular person;
(ii) to have happened at a particular time.
Fortunately, I don't think it ever got into the Act, which has now been
superseded by GST law anyway, but it underlines the way bureaucreats thiink
(if that's an apposite word!).


John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 6:57 AM
Subject: Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V03 #984

 

Bingo, Tom!!

You hit the nail on the head with that one.  When you owe taxes on a
   

transaction
 

has nothing to do with when the transaction is actually complete.  The
   

IRS, (or in
 

Canada, RevCan) live in their own little world, that has little bearing on
reality.  Of course, when you write the laws...
What a great line, I'll have to remember that:  You owe the taxes when
   

the tax
 

people say you owe the taxes.  Never have truer words been posted on this
   

list.
 

vbg

cheers,
frank
graywolf wrote:

   

You own the taxes when the
tax people say you owe the taxes.
 

--
Honour - that virtue of the unjust!
-Albert Camus
   



 





Re: First Pano Try

2003-09-16 Thread David Mann
Mark Cassino wrote:

 I can see doing more of this stuff in the future...

I know how you feel... I have a real soft spot for panoramas.

Back when I owned an RB67 I was able to modify a film back to take a 35mm 
roll, adding a mask to hold the film flat and prevent the sprocket area 
from being exposed.  It wasn't ideal but it was lots of fun.  Removing 
the film required a dark-bag, and I had to rewind it manually with a 
small plastic tool which I made from a broken pen.

Unfortunately I sold the RB so no more pans.  Maybe I'll have to modify 
an old Pentax 67 some day (its cheaper than an Xpan or Mamiya 7II, and 
SLRs suit my kind of work a lot better anyway).

A friend at work just purchased the new Minolta 5400ppi film scanner and 
has offered me his HP S20... which is the only 35mm film scanner I know 
of which can do my 24x68mm panoramas at full resolution, no stitching 
required.  I'll be trying that out tonight.

Cheers,

- Dave

http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/




Re: Help! Need email recommendation

2003-09-16 Thread David Mann
Chris Brogden wrote:

 Now that my university email account is expiring, I'm going to need to get
 a different address through another provider.  I'm currently using PINE in
 a Unix window, and I love it.  I love how I have to use the keyboard for
 everything, and how easy it is to move among hundreds of messages.  Can
 anyone recommend a similar program that works under Windows 98SE?

How about the real thing?

http://www.washington.edu/pine/getpine/pcpine.html

I guess it'll work under Win98.

Cheers,

- Dave

http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/




Re: Should I go Canon digital?

2003-09-16 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 16.09.03 1:44, Lasse Karlsson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tell me why I should or should not buy the Canon.
 Tell me why I still should, or shouldn't, buy the istD, at double the price.
For the price of RebelD (plasticky built, little features for advanced
photographers, not-so-intuitvie handling as said my friend and his friends
Canonians who were with him at Canon's press confernce with 300D aka RebelD
in USA) , I would surely buy upcoming Sony F828 - it far more photographic
features, it is better built (magnesium-alloy body) and it has great lens
made by Carl Zeiss (28-200 f2.0-2.8!) with T* coating - the only one that is
as good as Pentax's own SMC...
Of course we don't know much about quality of photos, but I am sure it will
be far better than current bunch of prosumer digitals - it has new 8MPix
RGB+E sensor. I suspect, it could have more noise than APS sized sensors,
but thanks to the more pixels it could rival it in terms of resolution. But
it is only my speculation - let's wait and see some reviews - it should be
available in shops soon...
Well at least not only me is impressed with F828 - Mike Johnston seems to be
too - he prefers it over RebelD like me:-)

-- 
Best Regards
Sylwek




Re: Long zoom macro lens?

2003-09-16 Thread Paul Delcour
I take this Panagor extension is just a tube, ie no lenses? This would
otherwise surely degrade the Pentax lens quality considerably. I must say
I'm impressed with your macro photo's. I want one of these! Might even get
rid of my 100/4 macro then as I find very little use for it. Might just as
well put thise macrozoom converter on my 85/1.8. Where would I end up in
terms of image ratio putting it on my 200/4?

:-)

Paul Delcour

 From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 10:15:30 +0400
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Long zoom macro lens?
 Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 02:15:37 -0400
 
 Panagor Macro Converter



Re: Blame on me...

2003-09-16 Thread Cotty
On 15/9/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

for letting this one slip away:
 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItemitem=2951616103category=8307rd=1

Somebody better explain to Paul that it's okay to post tear-jerker links
to eBay auctions that have ended so the PDML can spend a few minutes
pulling their hair out, wailing, gnashing teeth. D'oh, I just did.

I think we could be renamed the Pentax Discussion Masochistic List...




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Should I go Canon digital?

2003-09-16 Thread Cotty
On 15/9/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

I want a digital camera. I need it.
For a couple of years I have been eagerly waiting for an affordable to me
Pentax DSLR.
Now we've got the ist D at $1699. I can't afford it, other than by taking
some uncomfortable financial chances.
Then the Canon 300D appeared at half the price of the istD. (And for the
price of the istD I can get an necessary upgrade of my P166 and P133
computers on Win95 too...)

Those of you who have been following specs etc. closer than me:

Tell me why I should or should not buy the Canon.
Tell me why I still should, or shouldn't, buy the istD, at double the price.

Hi Lasse,

Personally I think you will be disappointed with the 300D. The lower spec
of the camera compared with the Canon 10D and the Pentax *ist D (or the
pair of Nikon-fit offerings for that matter) will be a real bug bear
after the initial honeymoon has worn off.

Things like only being able to shoot 4 frames in rapid succession before
the camera stops for a few seconds and does its thing before letting you
carry on. It's bad enough with 8 frames on the D60. Four would be
intolerable for me. The wait is only a matter of a few seconds, but each
one of those seconds is how many missed pictures if you need them?

Things like the build quality - I must be careful here as I have not seen
or touched either camera. I suspect that the build quality of the 300D
will not instil a sense of confidence that the build quality of the 10D/
*ist D will. The 300D has more plastic aboard, and will feel like it. It
is also nowhere near the Pentax in the beauty contest.

The pictures from both cameras will blow you away though. No doubt about
that. These 6MP DSLRs are in a league of their own.

In your position I would not hesitate - I would wait for the *ist D. It
is a few seconds to midnight on the *ist D Delivery Clock. Don't jump as
the gate is about to open!

If you insist on having one now, and price is a factor, consider a used
D60 or 10D. Or how about a Sigma SD-9 and one or two lenses? I wouldn't,
but some do ;-) I really think you will kick yourself if you plump for
the 300D.

Not an easy choice to make when you are really in a position to do it.
Much easier for me to make the decision for you, LOL.

Good luck Mr Karlsson. This email will self-destruct in 5 seconds.


Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Long zoom macro lens?

2003-09-16 Thread Paul Delcour
What about the set of rings Pentax offered to get macro. What would be
better: the Panagor macrozoomring or these Pentax rings? Seems ot me the
zoom offers much mnore flexibility and less switching of lenses/rings.

:-)

Paul Delcour

 From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 10:15:30 +0400
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Long zoom macro lens?
 Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 02:15:37 -0400
 
 Hi!
 
 On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 11:09:38 +0530
 Gaurav Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I have been reading the posts for around 5-6 months now. I have a
 Pentax ME Super with M50/1.7 (and a PZ-1 also which I don't use
 though). 
 
 I now realize that I would like to have a longish zoom for taking
 portraits of family, street photography, birds etc. Also, I have
 never done macro but would want that feature as well.
 
 You already have 50/1.7 and ME Super. May I suggest slightly different
 approach? You could look for Panagor Macro Converter ($20 or so I
 think). It would turn your 50/1.7 into macro zoom lens with macro
 factor changing from 1:10 to 1:1 (lifesize). The weight of converter
 is no more than 200 gr. Adding to that weight of 50 mm lens, I think
 your weight requirement will be met. The results however are most
 probably better than any zoom lens with macro setting. Notice that you
 would be using a 50 mm prime as an optical basis.
 
 You can see few photos I made with this combo here:
 http://www.geocities.com/dunno57/macro-photos.htm.
 By the way all shots there were made handheld...
 
 As a starting kit for Macro Work I think this is very viable option.
 
 Good hunting.
 
 Boris
 



Re: I'm back!

2003-09-16 Thread Cotty
On 15/9/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

Well, I wound up finishing the thesis on Bram Stoker's _Dracula_, so now I
have a purty li'l shiny Masters degree.  Woo hoo!  When I get the printed
version of the thesis back, much drinking of beer will ensue.

Congratulations Chris, and welcome back.


Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Should I go Canon digital?

2003-09-16 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 16.09.03 7:40, Alan Chan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From what I have read in an asian site, there are concern on the AF and
 overall quality of the 5400 from the users.
AF in 5400 is very slow and noise at isos higher than 100 is worse than from
cheaper Sony DSC-V1. Say what you want, but I think with DSC-V1 and DSC-F828
Sony will have this year's best prosumer cameras. It's a pity that Pentax
don't want to show us something interesting in this class - more advanced
than Optio 550, with bigger, threaded for filters lens, and with hot-shoe
for AF360FGZ... *istD is too pricey for me now, but I could buy now
smaller-than-dslr (and chepaer) prosumer digicam :-)

-- 
Best Regards
Sylwek




Re: OT - Getting Chris up to Speed-was:McBain Camera in Alberta

2003-09-16 Thread Cotty
On 15/9/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

The S wound up selling the second time to a collector in Japan for about
$1600 US.  Not bad, considering that it cost me $114.00 CAN after taxes,
but I still hated to part with it.  I didn't cry or anything insert macho
grunts here, but it was pretty hard to let go of it.

My God, I'm crying like a baby at the thought of you losing that S. Must
be a 'new man', har.


Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Blame on me...

2003-09-16 Thread Paul Delcour
O well, findings bring tears of joy, and missed ones...

:-)

Paul Delcour

 From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 07:52:37 +0100
 To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Blame on me...
 Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 03:15:24 -0400
 
 On 15/9/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
 
 for letting this one slip away:
 
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
 ViewItemitem=2951616103category=8307rd=1
 
 Somebody better explain to Paul that it's okay to post tear-jerker links
 to eBay auctions that have ended so the PDML can spend a few minutes
 pulling their hair out, wailing, gnashing teeth. D'oh, I just did.
 
 I think we could be renamed the Pentax Discussion Masochistic List...
 
 
 
 
 Cheers,
 Cotty
 
 
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Re: OT: Message for Mike Wilson

2003-09-16 Thread mike wilson
Hi,

Cotty wrote:

 Well Mike that's no bloody good cos everyone knows you Geordies don't
 have electricity up there in the har-cladden north!

1. I'm not a Geordie.  They live in the Tyne valley;  I live in the Wear
valley.  I won't tell you what the Geordies call us..
2. I presume you mean haar.  Otherwise known as sea-fret.  A good Viking
word for the mist that rolls in off the sea on nice, warm summer days,
thereby causing them to become cool, damp summer days.

All the above with a wacking big grin (wbg).

WRT electricity, Catherine is visiting the gym three times a week and I
am converting an old exercise bike into a rather effective generator. 
Spouses do have their uses..

Of course, this all assumes that NTL can get off their collective
backsides and produce a correct set of paperwork instead of the three
sets of defective stuff they have sent so far.  I have given up
contacting them and am just waiting for the engineers to call.  Let them
waste some of their time for a change.

Off to trim some wicks.

m



Re: Long zoom macro lens?

2003-09-16 Thread Dr E D F Williams
I use a Panagor Macro Converter with a Vivitar 135/3.5 these days and the
results are good. I often find it difficult to get near enough to the
subject with the Sigma 50/2.8 macro - which would be my choice in most
cases. I also miss the 45 degree viewfinder of the earlier Alpa Reflexes.

Don
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Updated: July 31, 2003


- Original Message - 
From: Paul Delcour [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: Long zoom macro lens?


 What about the set of rings Pentax offered to get macro. What would be
 better: the Panagor macrozoomring or these Pentax rings? Seems ot me the
 zoom offers much mnore flexibility and less switching of lenses/rings.

 :-)

 Paul Delcour

  From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 10:15:30 +0400
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Long zoom macro lens?
  Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 02:15:37 -0400
 
  Hi!
 
  On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 11:09:38 +0530
  Gaurav Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I have been reading the posts for around 5-6 months now. I have a
  Pentax ME Super with M50/1.7 (and a PZ-1 also which I don't use
  though).
 
  I now realize that I would like to have a longish zoom for taking
  portraits of family, street photography, birds etc. Also, I have
  never done macro but would want that feature as well.
 
  You already have 50/1.7 and ME Super. May I suggest slightly different
  approach? You could look for Panagor Macro Converter ($20 or so I
  think). It would turn your 50/1.7 into macro zoom lens with macro
  factor changing from 1:10 to 1:1 (lifesize). The weight of converter
  is no more than 200 gr. Adding to that weight of 50 mm lens, I think
  your weight requirement will be met. The results however are most
  probably better than any zoom lens with macro setting. Notice that you
  would be using a 50 mm prime as an optical basis.
 
  You can see few photos I made with this combo here:
  http://www.geocities.com/dunno57/macro-photos.htm.
  By the way all shots there were made handheld...
 
  As a starting kit for Macro Work I think this is very viable option.
 
  Good hunting.
 
  Boris
 





Re: Help! Need email recommendation

2003-09-16 Thread Frits Wuthrich
Or you could use Linux instead of W98 or use them both with a dual boot.


On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 09:06, David Mann wrote:
 Chris Brogden wrote:
 
  Now that my university email account is expiring, I'm going to need to get
  a different address through another provider.  I'm currently using PINE in
  a Unix window, and I love it.  I love how I have to use the keyboard for
  everything, and how easy it is to move among hundreds of messages.  Can
  anyone recommend a similar program that works under Windows 98SE?
 
 How about the real thing?
 
 http://www.washington.edu/pine/getpine/pcpine.html
 
 I guess it'll work under Win98.
 
 Cheers,
 
 - Dave
 
 http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
 
-- 
Frits Wuthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: macro converter or macrolens or ring set

2003-09-16 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 13:33:48 +
 Paul Delcour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I did once put my Petnax K 2x convertor on my 100/4 macro. Gives me 
1:1 but
at f8 which is pretty dark. But with enough light and a tripod shots 
looked
fine. This Panagor looks fine in your pictures, so how difficult is 
it to
indicate where the quality difference lies? How about the Pentax set 
of 3
rings to get macro?
I have the rings too. But I never used them for macro, at least not 
yet. One of the rings serves as a necessary buffer for my single 
element lens. It gives the lens almost full focus throw then.

Anyway, I am not sure what would be the quality of ring macro shots 
versus those made with MC. I suppose MC was made specifically for 50 
mm lens in mind. So perhaps it is not too bad anyway. 

Perhaps I need to try my macro rings. 

One thin is however certain, rings are way less convenient to deal 
with. Especially on the field, where in order to change macro factor 
you would have to dismount and mount your combo which may lead to some 
dust entering the camera. MC is way more convenient.

Just my cents...

Boris



Re: Long zoom macro lens?

2003-09-16 Thread graywolf
I only know about two of the lenses you mention. the Tokina ATX 100-300 
is a great lens but does not focus close. The Vivitar Series One 90-180 
is a true macro and maybe the sharpest zoom ever made.

Gaurav Aggarwal wrote:

Hi all,

I have been reading the posts for around 5-6 months now. I have a 
Pentax ME Super with M50/1.7 (and a PZ-1 also which I don't use though). 

I now realize that I would like to have a longish zoom for taking
portraits of family, street photography, birds etc. Also, I have never
done macro but would want that feature as well. 

IIRC, from the past posts some good long zoom lenses are:

F 70-210 f/4-5.6
A 70-210 f/4
FA 80-320 f/4.5-5.6
Tamron 70-210 f/3.5  (manual focus?)
Tokina ATX 100-300 f/4 (manual focus?)
Vivitar Series I 90-180 f/4.5
Any other? 


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OT:Help with file size

2003-09-16 Thread brooksdj

A new upstart horse magazine/website is interested in several 
pictures i 
took on the labour day weekend(reining show)and they have picked two from the emailed
proofs(low 
res at 72dpi)
They have asked for these to be sent at 300 dpi.I just want to make sure i do this 
right.

Pictures are from the Nikon D1 that are displayed in PS at 72dpi and size is roughly
18x27

To do this correctly,i should turn off the bicubic resample boxes at the bottom of the
image size 
screen,change the dpi to 300,which keeps the pixel sixe at the original of 
2000x1312,and
will give me 
roughly a 4x6 sized photo.Does this sound correct or should i keep the boxes turned on
which makes 
for a rather large pixel sized picture.

Most of the stuff i have sent to other magazines have been film so this is new.

Dave




Re: AF 360 FGZ Flash Sigma EX 28-70 2.8

2003-09-16 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Boris Liberman wrote:

 focal length that you set the zoom lens to? You know, at 70 mm the
 zoom is extended, so it shadows the flash. While at 28 mm the zoom is
 retracted, so it does not shade.

It is not like that. To hint at a link with a different thread running
at the mo, both the Pentax F28-80/3.5-4.5 and the FA28-80/3.5-5.6 are
at their most retracted at just under 50 (is that 43 then?). The F
interferes with the flash[1] at 28-35 on the MZ-50 (the FA doesn't, or
I haven't noticed, or the manual just does not list it). The FA
interferes with the MZ-5n at *all lengths* depending on the distance of
the subject, I did not expect this.

As I said, the lists in the manuals are not complete. Pity really.

HTH,
Kostas

[1] And the camera knows it, and flashes the viewfinder flash
indicator



Re: Camera size and lens size.

2003-09-16 Thread Lon Williamson
This sounds right to me.  One of the reasons I like
the K 55mm f1.8 is that, on the KX, the eye in the
viewfinder sees things at exactly the same magnification
as the other eye.  Put a 50mm lens on the KX, and this
is no longer true.
J. C. O'Connell wrote:
 

Ok, but why then 50mm and not 43mm? My parents sometimes say when we
talk about cameras that in their times 45mm was considered normal.


.True. The historical reason behind why 35mm film normal lens has
.become 50mm instead of staying at 43mm (or 45mm) is out there somewhere,
.but I can't retrieve it from my crowded gray cells!
.Someone here will know and help us out!
.You can still find cameras with 43mm lenses, so the practice is not
.dead, just not often followed anymore.

I think the reason they went to 58/55/50 was that
these focal lengths typically gave a FINDER magnification
of 1 (100%).
If they used a 43mm lens on an SLR, the image is smaller
than %100 on most SLRs.
FWIW, Using 43.27mm as normal yeilds a 85mm as very close to
2X and 135 as fairly close to 3X.
JCO


 






Re: OT:Help with file size

2003-09-16 Thread graywolf
If you sent them 72dpi full res images why can't they resize them them 
selves? If you sent them downsized (resampled) images just resize to 300 
dpi (uncheck resampling as you mentioned).

If they actually want a bigger file you can use the bicubic, stair-step, 
or genuine fractals to enlarge it. Probably what you will need to do is 
resize to 300dpi, then resample to about 8x12 @ 300dpi (2:1) bicubic 
works pretty well for that.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  		A new upstart horse magazine/website is interested in several pictures i 
took on the labour day weekend(reining show)and they have picked two from the emailed
proofs(low 
res at 72dpi)
They have asked for these to be sent at 300 dpi.I just want to make sure i do this right.

Pictures are from the Nikon D1 that are displayed in PS at 72dpi and size is roughly
18x27
To do this correctly,i should turn off the bicubic resample boxes at the bottom of the
image size 
screen,change the dpi to 300,which keeps the pixel sixe at the original of 2000x1312,and
will give me 
roughly a 4x6 sized photo.Does this sound correct or should i keep the boxes turned on
which makes 
for a rather large pixel sized picture.

Most of the stuff i have sent to other magazines have been film so this is new.

Dave	



--
graywolf
http://graywolfphoto.com



Re: OT:Help with file size

2003-09-16 Thread Herb Chong
yes, turn off resampling and record this as a Photoshop Action so you can
apply it in batches to your images.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 3:53 AM
Subject: OT:Help with file size


 To do this correctly,i should turn off the bicubic resample boxes at the
bottom of the
 image size
 screen,change the dpi to 300,which keeps the pixel sixe at the original of
2000x1312,and
 will give me
 roughly a 4x6 sized photo.Does this sound correct or should i keep the
boxes turned on
 which makes
 for a rather large pixel sized picture.




Re: Reputable dealer?

2003-09-16 Thread Keith Whaley
Couple of comments...
The FA Star is still being made, and the Inner Focusing feature, along
with a reputed improvement or tweaking of the lens assembly design (the
'star' feature?) and it's being the latest design from Pentax ought to
justify a little greater asking price.

Still, a question arises, do the 'Star' lenses in general offer the
average shooter any particular advantage over a non-star lens? I mean,
aside from the advertising hype, what's the truth... would you or I see
a difference in our images?

This is purely an academic question for me, as with all the Pentax
bodies and lenses I own, I don't use an automatic Pentax body, but I'm
still curious.

keith



Stan Halpin wrote:
 
 on 9/15/03 8:07 PM, Keith Whaley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  An FA*? I hope to tell you!
  I bought a mere SMC-K 85, f/1.8 the other day, for not much less than that!
 
  You'll enjoy it!
 
  keith whaley
 
  * * * *
 
  Robert Gonzalez wrote:
 
  There are a couple of lenses that kevincameras.com has that I like, but
  I've never dealt with them before.  Has anyone on PDML ever done
  business with these folks?  Is $495 a fair price for a FA* 85mm 1.4 in
  EX+++ condition?
 
  thanks,
 
  rg
 
 
 The prices tend to be about the same. The FA* may run $75-100 more, on
 average, just because more people are looking for the newest AF thingie than
 are looking for classics.
 
 Yes, $495 would be a reasonable price for the FA*. Not super amazingly
 unusually cheap, but reasonable. However, I do not know the vendor in
 question...
 
 stan



Re: Which two zooms?

2003-09-16 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Paul Eriksson wrote:

 A couple of suggestions:

 F 24-50mm f/4.0 approx $200 used (if you want 24mm cheap?)
 FA 28-105mm f/3.2-4.5 $200 new
 FA 28-105 f/4-5.6 power zoom $200 used (heavy)
 FA 24-90mm $400 new or $300 used
 F 70-210mm f/4-5.6 used $100-150 used (not the takumar)

I wrote at a different thread about the incompatibility of some lenses
with the built-in flash. Check pages 73 and 74 of your manual. This
might or might not be a concern for you of course.

An interesting best list is coming out of this thread. One missing
the 28-70/4 that I thought was good, but perhaps isn't.

HTH,
Kostas



Re: OT:Help with file size

2003-09-16 Thread brooksdj
 If you sent them 72dpi full res images why 
can't 
they resize them them 
 selves? If you sent them downsized (resampled) images just resize to 300 
 dpi (uncheck resampling as you mentioned).
 
 If they actually want a bigger file you can use the bicubic, stair-step, 
 or genuine fractals to enlarge it. Probably what you will need to do is 
 resize to 300dpi, then resample to about 8x12 @ 300dpi (2:1) bicubic 
 works pretty well for that.
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I quess i should have mentioned that,Tom.
When i resized them,i had the boxes turned on,resized to 400 pixels wide but stayed at
72dpi.I think if 
they do anything to the picture,it will look pretty pixelated.

Thanks for tyhe tip though

Dave




Re: OT:Help with file size

2003-09-16 Thread brooksdj
Good,i think i'm doing this correct then.
Thanks Herb,Tom

Dave

 yes, turn off resampling and record this as a Photoshop 
Action so you can
 apply it in batches to your images.
 
 Herb
 - Original Message - 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 3:53 AM
 Subject: OT:Help with file size
 
 
  To do this correctly,i should turn off the bicubic resample boxes at the
 bottom of the
  image size
  screen,change the dpi to 300,which keeps the pixel sixe at the original of
 2000x1312,and
  will give me
  roughly a 4x6 sized photo.Does this sound correct or should i keep the
 boxes turned on
  which makes
  for a rather large pixel sized picture.
 
 






Re: Long zoom macro lens?

2003-09-16 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, Boris Liberman wrote:

 On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 11:09:38 +0530
   Gaurav Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I now realize that I would like to have a longish zoom for taking
 portraits of family, street photography, birds etc. Also, I have
 never done macro but would want that feature as well.

 You already have 50/1.7 and ME Super. May I suggest slightly different
 approach? You could look for Panagor Macro Converter ($20 or so I
 think).

May I also suggest yet another option: buy a long zoom that you like
(I have the M75-150/4 and the early M80-200/4.5 and I am quite happy
with them, and you can follow the other people's suggestions too) and
buy a 49mm-K reversing ring (and a step-down ring suitable for the
thread of the zoom you like) for $20 or sth.

The one downside is that you cannot attach a ring flash (because you
don't have a thread at the front any more), but I have taken
reasonably useful floral macros that way.

The other downside is that the configuration induces step-down
metering, but if I can do it with the MZ-50, you probably can do it
with the ME Super.

HTH,
Kostas (not developed the pictures with the step-down ring yet, but I
will report, promise :-)



Re: Any more *istD questions?

2003-09-16 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi Alin,

on 10 Sep 03 you wrote in pentax.list:


  Heiko, some image samples with noise reduction off, at 200 and
  1600 ASA, also some raw samples...

We made lots of pictures, but we were asked not to publish them as we  
did use a pre-production modell. All I can say is, that the pictures  
were very good! The noise at ISO1600 is comparable to or lower of that  
of the Optio 550 at ISO200!

Cheers, Heiko



Re: Any more *istD questions?

2003-09-16 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi Alin,

on 10 Sep 03 you wrote in pentax.list:

MR If you get RAW samples, will you burn a copy of the Pentax RAW
MR conversion software to send to all of us so we can view them? g

   You wouldn't mind a raw sample, would you!? At least to see what
   other common places are there with N*.

I don't have a Nikon RAW, but it would be interesting to compare those  
file formats. Or even if it is possible to open a Pentax RAW with the  
Nikon tool. BTW - in the RAW file you can find the name Pentax  
(probably in the EXIF part), but non of Sony or Nikon...;-)

Cheers, Heiko



Re: Any more *istD questions?

2003-09-16 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi Stan,

on 10 Sep 03 you wrote in pentax.list:

I would like to see a photo of the SMC-M 10/2.8! That must be an
impressive lens!

Unfortunately I had forgotton to bring a saw with me ...;-)

But seriously, it will be interesting to see how the system will work when
faced with challenging conditions. As when the lens is wide open, the film
speed is high, the shutter speed is low...  Will we get the same fall-off in
quality at wider f-stops? Or about the same as with film? Is there a
mirror-slap vibration problem at 1/15 or 1/30 as with some film cameras?

As I already have mentioned - we did use a pre-production modell and  
were asked not to publish any pictures. We did notice some minor  
problems of this special *istD that I don't want to discuss in detail.  
But theese problems make it impossible to give a true judgment  
concerning the questions you have asked. All in all the pictures were  
very promising.

I will make an English report, soon. A German version can already be  
found here:

http://www.digitalfotonetz.de/istD/istD_Erfahrungsbericht/ 
body_istd_erfahrungsbericht.html

We made lots of pictures. I hope that I will find some time to compare  
them and give you some more information. But I don't think that I will  
manage this before the weekend.

I am also curious about the digital film. If you have old and new CF
cards (normal vs. fast, plus, or ultra cards),

We had a normal 256MB CF card and an ultra 256MB card. I didn't  
notice a difference.

Cheers, Heiko



Re: Any more *istD questions?

2003-09-16 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi cbwaters,

on 10 Sep 03 you wrote in pentax.list:

Just how larger are files from each of the quality settings?

The size did also depend on the motiv (a blank of paper might be  
compressed more that a landscape). Most pictures were between 1.5 and  
2.9 MB. The following figures show a very complex picture - those sizes  
were very seldom, but it is the only picture where I did a comparison of  
the quality levels. So don`t look to much at the absolute picture sizes  
but the relations.


L   *** 4.4MB
**  2.9MB
*   1.2MB

M   *** 2.1MB
**  1.2MB
*   0.9MB

S   *** 1.1MB
**  0.7MB
*   0.5MB

TIF ***17.3MB
** 11.0MB
*   4.6MB

RAW13.0MB

Please keep my introduction in mind. We had also pictures

Cheers, Heiko



Re: Any more *istD questions?

2003-09-16 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi Alan,

on 10 Sep 03 you wrote in pentax.list:

See if the eyepiece is coated glass. Just rub it when the saleman looked
elsewhere.  :-)

It is glass, but I'm quite sure that it is not coated. As we handled a  
pre-production modell, this might change in the final version, but I  
don't think that this is very likely.

Cheers, Heiko



Re: Any more *istD questions?

2003-09-16 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi Robert,

on 10 Sep 03 you wrote in pentax.list:

See how many pictures you can take in continous mode.  There's a
controversy on its real number, there are quotes from as low as five to
as high as 8.  Also try to get a feel for shutter lag.

Five pictures. After that you can take the next picture as soon as one  
of those five pictures has been transfered from the cameras memory to  
the CF-Card. This dependes on the chosen picture type: a JPG needs 2-3  
seconds, a RAW file 8-9 seconds and a TIF pricture 18-19 seconds (that  
were no exact measurements but estimates)

Cheers, Heiko



Re: McBain Camera in Alberta

2003-09-16 Thread brooksdj
Thanks Chris.
FWIW i did check Don's website but nothing used listed,that i could find.

Oh and welcome back before i forget and glad to here the schoolin worked goodg
I'm looking for a 165 or possibly a 200 for the 6x7(its working fine and being 
loved)Have
to sell a few 
things first though.

I was going to email you on something i saw on Dons site and that is the Pentax off 
camera
flash kit.No 
info yet,can you supply any.Sounds like something i should have for the SP and 
AF280T.Is
it tgoing to 
be the two modules and cord needed?

Dave



 
 Haven't bought anything from them, but I've heard good things about them.
 
 chris
 
 
 On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Any one,from Canada or ., ever purchase any gear from McBain
  in Edmonton or sub stores.Saw something i might be interested in.
 
  Dave
 
 
 
 
 
 






Re: First Pano Try

2003-09-16 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I found a kit to convert a min MF to a 35mm panoramic, and cut it to fit
my old Pentax 6X7.  It worked OK, but I discovered it's better just to use
the normal 6X7 with 120 film and a wide angle lens and crop the image to
create the panorama that you want.

David Mann wrote:

 Mark Cassino wrote:
 Unfortunately I sold the RB so no more pans.  Maybe I'll have to modify an
 old Pentax 67 some day (its cheaper than an Xpan or Mamiya 7II, and SLRs
 suit my kind of work a lot better anyway).



Re: Help! Need email recommendation

2003-09-16 Thread Doug Franklin
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 13:32:18 +0400, Salikh Zakirov wrote:

 there exists console-based mailer, named mutt,
 whose interface originally was based on pine interface
 so it has similar look and feel.
 
 http://www.mutt.org
 
 You can try it with Cygwin (http://www.cygwin.org)
 or run windows port:
 
 http://www.geocities.com/win32mutt/win32.html
 

You could also try a hosting company like Pair (http://www.pair.com)
where you have telnet access to your server and just use mutt, pine, or
whatever else you feel like through a Telnet session.  I'm not sure if
they have ssh access or not.

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ




Re: First Pano Try

2003-09-16 Thread Lon Williamson
Mark, I've been interested in trying panos as well.  A few questions:

1) What focal length?  I've heard it said that going below 50mm is not
advisable in 35mm because of distortion at the edges.
2) Did you shoot vertically or horizontally?  Here again, advise I've
read says to shoot vertically (counterintuitive at first, til you think
about it)
3) How much overlap from frame to frame?  A third?  A quarter?

4) Did you worry about the true center of the lens?

5) Did you use a leveling tripod head?  How fussy were you about leveling?

6) Did you use only tools available in Photoshop as shipped to do your
stitching?


Re: First Pano Try

2003-09-16 Thread Mark Cassino
At 06:52 PM 9/15/2003 -0400, you wrote:
Very nice piece of work!  I assume it begins with carefull levellling of 
camera and a pan head...


Thanks, Andre' - I actually used a ball head. Leveled everything, locked it 
in position, and then just rotated the whole head.

- MCC

-
Mark Cassino
Kalamazoo, MI
-
Photography:

http://www.markcassino.com





Star lenses (was: Re: Reputable dealer?)

2003-09-16 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Still, a question arises, do the 'Star' lenses in general
offer the
 average shooter any particular advantage over a non-star lens?
I mean,
 aside from the advertising hype, what's the truth... would you
or I see
 a difference in our images?

Hi Keith,

I read somewhere that the Star in the Pentax lenses stands for
APO, so it should apply to the apochromatic lenses. But I may be
wrong...

Gianfranco

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Re: First Pano Try

2003-09-16 Thread Mark Cassino
At 06:38 PM 9/15/2003 -0400, you wrote:

you need to try some panorama software to see if they will make life easier
enough for you to use them.
http://www.panoguide.com/
Thanks Herb - looks like some interesting info there. I just lined things 
up in the finder after carefully getting the camera level - using a Pz-1p 
and FA20-35 f4 zoom. It worked OK but there was much more overlapping the 
frames than I wanted - probably because the coverage of the Pz-1p's finder. 
An Mz-S or LX would have been much better in that regard.


i use PhotoVista, now published by www.iSeeMedia.com. i don't have problems
printing panoramas up to about 12000 pixels wide by about 3000 high from
Photoshop on my system. i have used the 13 inch panorama paper cut to about
40 inches long, just a bit short of the 44 inch maximum that the Epson 1280
printer driver supports.
I was expecting to run into that 44 inch maximum but did not. Under custom 
paper sizes the 2000p's driver will let me put in a sheet that is 12.9 
inches wide by 12 feet long! I don't know if that would work - what I 
printed out was 3000 x 13928 pixels - just over 46 inches at 300 dpi. I 
could set up the drive just fine in Photoshop, but when I went to print the 
print process would crash with an error message. That seemed to kill the 
print routines - clikcing on print after that did nothing at all until I 
shut down PS and reloaded it. Corel managed to print it fine, with one 
exception in that it would not print flush to the top margin. I had to trim 
off a 1/16th of an inch or so (a bit of a pain since it had to be done 
manually - I certainly don't have a roto-trimmer big enough for this thing!)

No I have to try to mount the dang thing onto foam core...

 some of my panoramas are at
http://users.bestweb.net/~hchong/Panoramas/Panoramas.htm. i have converted
most of them to QTVRs on the site, so you won't get as high resolution as
the originals. i use a Kaidan panoramic head for many of my panorama shots,
although i am changing over to a simpler setup to save some bulk and weight.
Great stuff!

- MCC
-
Mark Cassino
Kalamazoo, MI
-
Photography:

http://www.markcassino.com





Re: Reputable dealer?

2003-09-16 Thread Robert Gonzalez
Thanks, thats how I got it, he had it for sale on eBay.  Used the buy it 
now feature, since it was only $20 more than his initial starting price 
of $475.  Didn't want to risk getting into a bidding war and this lens 
usually ends up around $550 on eBay.  I've been wanting to get this lens 
for a long time.  He also has a classic 85mm 1.4 A* on his website, or 
maybe even two, but they are out of my budget right now ($700-$800).

Jose R. Rodriguez wrote:
Robert,

For what its worth, kevincameras has an eBay Positive Feedback of 99.4%
(Feedback Rating: 339); so I suspect they are pretty reputable.
Regards,

Jose R. Rodriguez

-Original Message-
From: Robert Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 7:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Reputable dealer?
There are a couple of lenses that kevincameras.com has that I like, but
I've never dealt with them before.  Has anyone on PDML ever done
business with these folks?  Is $495 a fair price for a FA* 85mm 1.4 in
EX+++ condition?
thanks,

rg







Re: Problem with A contact on a lens

2003-09-16 Thread Robert Gonzalez
John,

Your are correct about the A contact hypothesis.  It used to be 
mechanical, now it appears to be electrical in the FA lenses.  It just 
creates an electrical short between the contact pin and the body.  So 
somewhere under the aperture ring or the mechanics behind it, there must 
be a switch, which when the lens is placed in the A position, shorts out 
the contact center to ground.  I've measured this with my multimeter before.

John Francis wrote:
[reposted becuase I messed up the subject line the first time] 



I've got a problem with the A contact on one of my FA lenses, and
I was wondering if anyone on the list could help.
Basically the camera doesn't recognise the fact that the aperture
ring is in the A position, so I can't use shutter priority modes.
From perusing Boz's K-mount site it looks as though the problem is
simply with the A contact.  The description of that contact for
the KA-mount describes the lens contact as physically moving when
the aperture ring is moved to the A position to make or break
contact with the camera body.
As far as I can tell this isn't true for later (F and FA) lenses,
so I assume the switching is done elsewhere in the lens, rather
than by moving the contact.
Can any list member confirm or deny this hypothesis?  I haven't
seen my multimeter for years, so I don't know whether I'll be able
to do any further checking myself.
I'd also like to know what the likelihood is that this could be
something I could repair myself, something a typical neighbourhood
camera repairer could fix, or something that will have to go back
to Pentax.







Re: UK Street Price of *ist D

2003-09-16 Thread Camdir


 So Park camera is GBP1199.99 = $1920.58 = Eur 1703.32
 
 Anyone knows what our Peter from Sunny Brighton charges?
  
Sorry, I haven't a clue. Eh??

Rob can tell you.

Cheers

Peter

CAMERA DIRECT
8 DORSET STREET
BRIGHTON
EAST SUSSEX
BN2 1WA
UK
http://www.camera-direct.com
TEL 44 1273 681129
FAX 44 1273 681135



And here's my little gallery...

2003-09-16 Thread Steve Sharpe
http://www.milestone-media.com/main/main/photo_gallery.html

Constructive comments are welcome!
--
Steve
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
•


Re: Any more *istD questions?

2003-09-16 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Hello Heiko,
have you checked accidentally if classic flash units like AF500FTZ work
with *istD in TTL mode?

-- 
Best Regards
Sylwek




OT: Internet woes

2003-09-16 Thread mike wilson
Hi,

Not content with fouling up my email, whatever deity it is that is
peering over my shoulder has just crashed the internet proxy server as I
was upgrading my browser with a download.

I only seem to have lost my bookmark file but that is bad enough.  Not
having admin access to this workstation means that I will have to
restore each page individually from the backup.  Can't ask the network
technicians to help as they are having to temporarily reconfigure each
individual machine to a new server and conversational responses from
them are limited to two words.

I wonder if it is because I have precisely 666 messages in my inbox
today?

mike



*istD works with classic TTL flashes!

2003-09-16 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Incredible! *istD works in TTL mode with flashes older than P-TTL enabled
AF360! I have just read Heiko's test:
http://www.digitalfotonetz.de/istD/istD_Erfahrungsbericht/
body_istd_erfahrungsbericht.html
Thanks Heiko!
So *istD is the only DSLR on the market that is compatible with older
TTL-only flashes! Nice touch :-)

-- 
Best Regards
Sylwek




RE: Any more *istD questions?

2003-09-16 Thread Rob Brigham
You have no idea how helpful this email is!  My manual is in Japanese,
and I was wondering how to use the different file options.  I assume LMS
is the file size, and the number of stars indicates the level of
compression used?

 -Original Message-
 From: Heiko Hamann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 16 September 2003 13:46
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Any more *istD questions?
 
 
 Hi cbwaters,
 
 on 10 Sep 03 you wrote in pentax.list:
 
 Just how larger are files from each of the quality settings?
 
 The size did also depend on the motiv (a blank of paper might be  
 compressed more that a landscape). Most pictures were between 
 1.5 and  
 2.9 MB. The following figures show a very complex picture - 
 those sizes  
 were very seldom, but it is the only picture where I did a 
 comparison of  
 the quality levels. So don`t look to much at the absolute 
 picture sizes  
 but the relations.
 
 
 L   *** 4.4MB
 **  2.9MB
 *   1.2MB
 
 M   *** 2.1MB
 **  1.2MB
 *   0.9MB
 
 S   *** 1.1MB
 **  0.7MB
 *   0.5MB
 
 TIF ***17.3MB
 ** 11.0MB
 *   4.6MB
 
 RAW13.0MB
 
 Please keep my introduction in mind. We had also pictures
 
 Cheers, Heiko
 
 



Re: *istD works with classic TTL flashes!

2003-09-16 Thread Rob Studdert
On 16 Sep 2003 at 15:44, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:

 So *istD is the only DSLR on the market that is compatible with older
 TTL-only flashes! Nice touch :-)

So I can use my old flash with the *istD but I'll have to tote an external 
meter to use my older lenses, strange priorities? :-(

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Accounting

2003-09-16 Thread Larry Levy
 Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 09:36:01 +0100
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 OK, I'm gonna back out of this one too!  Sorry Bob - had a migraine
 after a day of the kids pestering me and couldn't think as clearly as
 perhaps I should.  Headache still there, but thinking a 'little' more
 clearly now...

 However, from a tax point of view the invoice is raised prior to or when
 goods are despatched in any accounting system I have ever worked on, not
 when money is actually collected, and certainly not when the customer
 receives the goods.

 I'm gonna have to leave this one for now because work is pressing and I
 have yet another mad week which means I wont have time to continue the
 discussion.


This is totally dependent upon the type of accounting you are doing.
Apparently, all the accounting systems you've worked with use Accrual
Accounting. Accrual Accounting enables you to book (account for) income when
you think you should have received it (not necessarily when you did receive
it).

There is a whole other world called Cash Accounting. Cash Accounting
requires that you book the income when you receive the money.

I'm not an accountant (and I haven't played one on the tele), but I have
created lots of accounting systems for large financial services firms. In
the US, insurance companies are mandated to use Cash Accounting. In other
countries, they may use Accrual Accounting. The fun part comes when you put
them together on the same balance sheet.

Larry in Dallas (who still has his very old Arthur Andersen ID, from when
the firm required that I read a multi-hundred page book on ethics and sign
an oath that I would abide by it, as well as actually resigned audits of
firms that it thought were not up to their standard. Times they do change.)



Re: Impressions of a scholar

2003-09-16 Thread Larry Levy
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 Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 12:44:57 +0400
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 To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Impressions of a scholar
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 Hi!

 Let it be a little discourse away from lens resolution and other such
 topics grin...

 I finally got my EktaChrome 100 slides and two films of TMAX 100
 processed.

 1. Proper B/W film is way smoother than T400 CN C-41 film I've been
 using as a study so far. I definitely am not going to use C-41 B/W
 stuff any more. The play of tones is amazing. I am getting converted,
 am I not? grin

 I will be posting some of the shots, probably to oncoming PUGs too.

 2. The colors of E-Chrome 100 were just perfect. Very true, very
 painting like. Even though I've been shooting mostly faces (my
 daughter's first day in k-garten, etc), I really liked it. Amazingly
 enough, the scans were 100% dustless while all colors went for a walk
 to say the least. I am afraid I am going to leave this lab too.

 Finally, my friends from not-so-local photo club invited me to do my
 own dark room work, at least for B/W. So I am buying 5 more TMAX 100s
 and I keep growing. Though, my both arms are usually left, so it would
 be fun and challenge to learn how to process film manually.

 Thought I'd share that with you...

 Boris

 --
Ah, so you're ambi-sinestrous. I've been blessed with that all my life. It
enables me to do more than my share of assuring that we don't live in a
perfect world. Two left hands allows me to make lots of 87 or 92 degree
corners. Anyone can make 90 degree corners.

Larry



Re: Any more *istD questions?

2003-09-16 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi Sylwester,

on 16 Sep 03 you wrote in pentax.list:

have you checked accidentally if classic flash units like AF500FTZ
work with *istD in TTL mode?

Yes. The *istD has a TTL-sensor and worked fine with my AF500FTZ. I  
couldn't notice any difference in its behaviour compared to my MZ-5n. I  
really don't where this rumor came from, that the *istD can handle P-TTL  
flashes, only.

Cheers, Heiko



Re: Any more *istD questions?

2003-09-16 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi Rob,

on 16 Sep 03 you wrote in pentax.list:

You have no idea how helpful this email is!  My manual is in Japanese,
and I was wondering how to use the different file options.  I assume LMS
is the file size, and the number of stars indicates the level of
compression used?

Yes. If you turn the left dial to this strange square symbol between IO  
and WB, then you can use the two hyper-dials on the right to change size  
and quality. The S-size can be set in the custom functions.

Cheers, Heiko



Re: *istD works with classic TTL flashes!

2003-09-16 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 16.09.03 16:03, Rob Studdert at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So I can use my old flash with the *istD but I'll have to tote an external
 meter to use my older lenses, strange priorities? :-(
Even the newest -K and -M lenses are far older than the oldest digital-TTL
flashes... Perhaps that's why they have made it that way?

-- 
Best Regards
Sylwek




RE: Any more *istD questions?

2003-09-16 Thread Rob Brigham
One of the things I want to do as soon as possible is get some ISO1600
and ISO3200 shots.  Hopefully I will work out how to get them on the web
in the next day or so.  I think I have web space with my ISP.  They cant
tell me off for publishing because this is a production model.

 -Original Message-
 From: Heiko Hamann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 16 September 2003 13:23
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Any more *istD questions?
 
 
 Hi Alin,
 
 on 10 Sep 03 you wrote in pentax.list:
 
 
   Heiko, some image samples with noise reduction off, at 200 
 and  1600 
  ASA, also some raw samples...
 
 We made lots of pictures, but we were asked not to publish 
 them as we  
 did use a pre-production modell. All I can say is, that the pictures  
 were very good! The noise at ISO1600 is comparable to or 
 lower of that  
 of the Optio 550 at ISO200!
 
 Cheers, Heiko
 
 



Re: Pairs

2003-09-16 Thread Larry Levy
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 Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 08:16:38 -0700
 From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Hi Mark,
 
 One of anything cannot be a pair. 
 You have lines and spaces to work with. 
 A line pair cannot be construed to be one line  one space. It's got
 to be two lines  two spaces.
 One of each does not constitute a pair; two of each does.
 
 So it seems to me.
 
 keith
 
Keith,

Per your first sentnece, apparently, you've never seen a pair of pants.

8-)

Larry



Re: And here's my little gallery...

2003-09-16 Thread Dr E D F Williams
Link doesn't work for me.

Don
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http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams
Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery
Updated: July 31, 2003


- Original Message - 
From: Steve Sharpe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 4:42 PM
Subject: And here's my little gallery...


 http://www.milestone-media.com/main/main/photo_gallery.html
 
 Constructive comments are welcome!
 -- 
 Steve
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 .
 
 



Re: Pentax in politics

2003-09-16 Thread Dag T
A 200mm from Åland, that would be foreign politics :-)

DagT

På tirsdag, 16. september 2003, kl. 18:02, skrev Jostein:

Congrats, Lasse.
Now be careful with that 200mm. :-)
cheers,
Jostein
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Pictures at: http://oksne.net
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- Original Message -
From: Lasse Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 11:54 PM
Subject: Pentax in politics

Thought I'd let you know that now Pentax got themselves a 
representative
in politics.
Since a couple of weeks back I am running for a seat in the local
parliament of Aland (the Aland Islands) as well as for a seat in the 
city
council of my home town Mariehamn.
While I'm usually carrying my MZ5 across my shoulder and sometimes am
referred to as the man with a camera (for instance in a local radio 
guest
show), Pentax will at least get some exposure on this local scene.
This made me wonder if there is/has been any other known connections
between Pentax and politics elsewhere in the world and time.
Any other PDML:er got or running for a seat in a local or national
assembly?
This will of course also mean a break up of the established ban on
politics as an accepted subject matter.
So sorry guys, but from now on politics is a legitimate subject 
matter on
this list too.
Free the peoples of the world!! with a Pentax in your hand. Just knock
them tyrants on the head with it.
:-)

Lasse








Re: UK Street Price of *ist D

2003-09-16 Thread Frits Wuthrich
Oh yes, Rob pointed to your website, so now I know. I wonder why the
*ist D would be a Miscellaneous Accessory? British Humour?

Cheers.

On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 15:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  So Park camera is GBP1199.99 = $1920.58 = Eur 1703.32
  
  Anyone knows what our Peter from Sunny Brighton charges?
   
 Sorry, I haven't a clue. Eh??
 
 Rob can tell you.
 
 Cheers
 
 Peter
 
 CAMERA DIRECT
 8 DORSET STREET
 BRIGHTON
 EAST SUSSEX
 BN2 1WA
 UK
 http://www.camera-direct.com
 TEL 44 1273 681129
 FAX 44 1273 681135
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Re: And here's my little gallery...

2003-09-16 Thread Frits Wuthrich
Very nice. I think the text is way too big. I would prefer a smaller
font.


On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 15:42, Steve Sharpe wrote:
 http://www.milestone-media.com/main/main/photo_gallery.html
 
 Constructive comments are welcome!
-- 
Frits Wuthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: *istD works with classic TTL flashes!

2003-09-16 Thread Camdir

 So I can use my old flash with the *istD but I'll have to tote an external 
 meter to use my older lenses, strange priorities? :-( 

_you_ don't need a meter Rob. C'mon, who are you kidding?

Out there now, it's 1/500th at F4 off that bit of the wall - sorry old sports 
pjs tend to measure everything at 1/500th. 

Cheers

Peter



Re: And here's my little gallery...

2003-09-16 Thread John Francis
 
 http://www.milestone-media.com/main/main/photo_gallery.html
 
 Constructive comments are welcome!

Some really nice shots there.  I particularly liked the first couple
(I presume you do too, since you put them up early in the list).

I didn't like the way to navigate the gallery - I'd really like to see
one page of thumbnail image links, rather than being forced to click on
each page in sequence.   This is particularly bad since the chain seems
to be broken; the link from image12 (the locomotive) goes nowhere.

On image12, I personally would crop out some of the foreground. But
that's a personal preference - others may well disagree.

On the image before that, though (the window box) I found the angles
introduced by the camera being tilted down were far too distracting.
I kept on wanting to see true verticals in all that brickwork.

I've got a very similar shot from Acadia National Park. 
You might want to tweak your scanning parameters a little, though;
you're not getting the full contrast range in the scan.  I'm fairly
sure Kodachrome 64 gets further into the black than this scan shows.

But, overall, some good stuff there.  Fix the links and show us more!




agfapan 25 for sale

2003-09-16 Thread Brendan
I emailed him, it all has been cold stored

http://www.tbw99.com/messages/3445.html

He has 100 rolls of it


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RE: UK Street Price of *ist D

2003-09-16 Thread Rob Brigham
Some really naff pics here, but they WERE taken with a Production istD
at full res best jpg and uploaded at full size.  I rotated a couple and
I think they got compressed when I saved them, but if anyone want high
res pics feel free.

I have now worked out how to do TIFFs and change the ISO (all these were
at 200) and will post something better soon (along with a better page
with thumbnails).

http://www.calcot.plus.com/Pentax/Pentax.htm

Hopefully the link works...

WARNING THEY ARE BIGG!

 -Original Message-
 From: Frits Wuthrich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 16 September 2003 17:50
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: UK Street Price of *ist D
 
 
 Oh yes, Rob pointed to your website, so now I know. I wonder 
 why the *ist D would be a Miscellaneous Accessory? British Humour?
 
 Cheers.
 
 On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 15:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   So Park camera is GBP1199.99 = $1920.58 = Eur 1703.32
   
   Anyone knows what our Peter from Sunny Brighton charges?

  Sorry, I haven't a clue. Eh??
  
  Rob can tell you.
  
  Cheers
  
  Peter
  
  CAMERA DIRECT
  8 DORSET STREET
  BRIGHTON
  EAST SUSSEX
  BN2 1WA
  UK
  http://www.camera-direct.com
  TEL 44 1273 681129
  FAX 44 1273 681135
 -- 
 Frits Wuthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 



Re: FA* Lenses

2003-09-16 Thread Bruce Dayton
Mark,

Some may not realize, but with the focus clutch design, you can
manually focus the FA * lenses by simply pulling the clutch and
focusing - you don't have to disengage the body af switch.  Can be
very handy for touch up focusing - much more like the Canon USM
lenses.


Bruce



Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 8:37:42 AM, you wrote:

ME Keith, 

ME The FA* lenses have the following properties: 

ME  o) They are faster than non-FA* lenses. 

ME  o) They are sharp (at least, the ones I own are). 

ME  o) Their build quality is generally very solid. 

ME My best 35mm hand-held shots have been with my FA* 85mm F1.4
ME lens.  It is a _wonderful_ indoor portrait/action lens.
ME Images shot wide-open are very smooth and have a certain
ME glow to them that I really like.  That said, I haven't had
ME a chance to compare this lens to, say, the 85mm F1.8
ME lens. 

ME  --Mark 

ME keith wrote:
 Still, a question arises, do the 'Star' lenses in general 
 offer the average shooter any particular advantage over a 
 non-star lens? I mean,  aside from the advertising hype, 
 what's the truth... would you or I see a difference in our images? 

 This is purely an academic question for me, as with all 
 the Pentax bodies and lenses I own, I don't use an automatic 
 Pentax body, but I'm still curious. 

keith




Re-enabled.

2003-09-16 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Holga's her name.
$1.91 + tax was her price.
Yes, she was both cheap and easy.
But she's all mine.
Now to shoot her.



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Collin Brendemuehl
KC8TKA

The problems are so over-rated.
-- Petula Clark
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Refreshed

2003-09-16 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Got my new-to-me 43/1.9 in yesterday.
It's going to Pittsburgh this weekend.



--
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Collin Brendemuehl
KC8TKA

The problems are so over-rated.
-- Petula Clark
--



Re: OT: Internet woes

2003-09-16 Thread graywolf
Ahh :)  Bob Heinlein in his book Number of the Beast said that 
number is actually 6**6**6. I can guarantee you don't have that many 
e-mails :)

mike wilson wrote:
Hi,

Not content with fouling up my email, whatever deity it is that is
peering over my shoulder has just crashed the internet proxy server as I
was upgrading my browser with a download.
I only seem to have lost my bookmark file but that is bad enough.  Not
having admin access to this workstation means that I will have to
restore each page individually from the backup.  Can't ask the network
technicians to help as they are having to temporarily reconfigure each
individual machine to a new server and conversational responses from
them are limited to two words.
I wonder if it is because I have precisely 666 messages in my inbox
today?
mike


--
graywolf
http://graywolfphoto.com



OT: Film Remaining

2003-09-16 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
4 of 120 propacks Velvia 
3 of 120 propacks NPC 160
1 of 120 propack Ektachrome 120S
2 of 135 propack Kodak Portra 800 36
1 of 135 propack Kodak Portra 160VC 36
55 of 135/24 Kodak Elitechrome 400

$100 for all, US shipping included.


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Collin Brendemuehl
KC8TKA

The problems are so over-rated.
-- Petula Clark
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Re: Long zoom macro lens?

2003-09-16 Thread Andre Langevin

I have been reading the posts for around 5-6 months now. I have a
Pentax ME Super with M50/1.7 (and a PZ-1 also which I don't use though).
I now realize that I would like to have a longish zoom for taking
portraits of family, street photography, birds etc. Also, I have never
done macro but would want that feature as well.
You could try macro using your 50mm lens with a 49mm Minolta 
achromatic close-up lens #1 and/or #2 on it.  They screw as a filter 
and permits getteing closer to subject.  Achromatic ones (with two 
lenses in it( are a lot better than regular close-up filters.  New, 
they are 30$ but used they come at $10-15 on eBay, although not 
regularly in 49mm size.  The close-up lens #1 will start where the 
50mm left (around half a meter) and will bring you closer to your 
subject.  #2 is still stronger (brings you still closer).

You bring the filter with you, and when you fell macro, you screw 
it on your lens.  Not as practical as having a macro function 
built-in a tele zoom, but the quality will be better.  Canon also 
makes these achromatic close-up lenses, to be put on their zooms.

Andre
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Re: Pairs

2003-09-16 Thread Keith Whaley
Can't say I have. Am I missing something?

keith

Jostein wrote:
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 4:33 PM
 Subject: Re: Pairs
 
  I have also seen a pair of scissors, and a pair of glasses...  g
 
  keith
 
 
 And dingo's kindneys? (g,d,  r)
 
 Jostein



Re: OT: Leni Reifenstahl: A giant passes away

2003-09-16 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi,

Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 4:19:17 PM, you wrote:

 I'll add one more comment. Frankly, I don't care if Reifenstahl was a Nazi or 
 not -- her film, like all art work can stand alone, independent of the 
 creator.

Her work is so recognisable as being of that time that I don't believe
you can separate the 2 and see the work as something isolated, or fail
to consider Riefenstahl's position in this. She was perhaps naive when
she first became involved. Maybe she thought Nazism was much the same
as a great big Busby Berkeley musical, all camera angles and
synchronised high-kicking. Somehow I doubt that, and I don't think
you can really view them in the same way you'd look at stills from a
Busby Berkeley review.

 And her propaganda did not significantly increase Hitler's power, the 
 events she shot he was doing anyway. He was already a master of propaganda without 
 her. I heard way back when in my film class that the problem was, she did her 
 job too well. I tend to agree with that. Thus it makes it hard to see what 
 her own stand was or might have been independent of what she produced. But like 
 I said previously, no one else gave us a such a powerful visual record -- an 
 insight into the times and the thinking -- as close to insider glimpse of a 
 turbulent and very strange time in history as we are likely to ever have. We'd 
 be poorer, much poorer, without it.

It is certainly a powerful record, and I appreciate it as much as
anybody, but let's not kid ourselves into thinking it's an inser's
view. If she was an insider then she must take her share of the
responsibility for events. She claimed she was not an insider. Her
pictures and movies are not in any way fly-on-the-wall stuff; they are
all rehearsed and cannot possibly be treated as documentary in any
modern sense of the word, so I don't see what glimpse we are getting
of this time.

Where is the insight in her photographs  films? They are extremely
shallow. She saw only the surface of things. Look at what she has
influenced: advertisements for Calvin Klein; James Bond films; Annie
Leibovitz's celebrity portraits. Flashy, exciting, emotive, but
trivial with no depth. She was ahead of her time.

 But then I've always tended to think that art can stand and be judged 
 independent of the artist. Good thing, since many famous painters have been real 
 assholes in real life.

In my opinion you can gain more from the art by knowing about the
artist's life. Knowing that Picasso was Spanish certainly adds to the
power of 'Guernica', for instance.

-- 
Cheers,
 Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Takumar 200/3.5

2003-09-16 Thread Andre Langevin
I, too, have one.  Lovely lens, if a bit impractical.  Actually, I don't find
the pre-set to be that much of a problem in use.
Neither me.  You learn to count the stops (or half-stops).

And, yes, it is not multi-coated, but on a long lens, flare isn't 
such a problem as on a wider lens - just don't point the lens into 
the sun.

If you do get one, make sure it comes with the lovely
leather case, large screw-on hood, and especially, the honking big embossed
metal AOC lens cap!
frank
And the tripod mount, Gasha.  There is a version with a tripod mount 
and one without.  I would take the one with tripod mount (you can 
also take it out).

I compared its quality with Pentax-M 200mm f/4, probably at f8 and 
sun was coming from the back (no flare issue), and I could not see 
any evident difference out of a 2700 dpi scan.  Maybe a very slightly 
better contrast on the M lens.

Andre
--


Re: Should I go Canon digital?

2003-09-16 Thread cyberstudio
Dear Alan,

I'd expect any camera not being able to resolve
something to give me a fuzzy patch of stuff. If the
hair cannot be resolved, I'd expect it to give me
back a fuzzy patch of color. But no, I got back a
ragged hair, much like on a TV only much worse. The
hair has sharp boundaries, but it is not a line, it
is ragged. I don't know how to best put this in
words, but to me the camera seems to be telling me,
I can't render it, so I create it for you. That's
why I asked if there are certain settings which
would help.

--
Bo-Ming Tong

- Original Message -
From: Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, September 15, 2003 10:39 pm
Subject: Re: Should I go Canon digital?

 I used the F717 once. I didn't like it at all. I was
 doing portraits. Hair looked like pixels, not hair.
 Maybe I am seeing a digital artifact, or the picture
 was overly sharpened ? But the camera was borrowed
 and I didn't RTFM. Probably there are settings which
 would have given me better pictures.
 
 You can't blame the camera when the resolving
power of your eyes 
 is too 
 high. :-)
 
 Alan Chan
 http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
 

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RE: *istD works with classic TTL flashes!

2003-09-16 Thread josvdh
I'm not suprised: it is so easy technically to make this happen, it would be
a shame if it could not!!
Backwards compatibility to old TTL flashes is one of the reasons I have a
Nikon digital camera and could be a reason to buy a digital Pentax. I'm
aware of the fact that good TTL flashes are as expensive as lenses or
camera's!

Greetz, Jos

 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Verzonden: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 3:45 PM
 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Onderwerp: *istD works with classic TTL flashes!


 Incredible! *istD works in TTL mode with flashes older than P-TTL enabled
 AF360! I have just read Heiko's test:
 http://www.digitalfotonetz.de/istD/istD_Erfahrungsbericht/
 body_istd_erfahrungsbericht.html
 Thanks Heiko!
 So *istD is the only DSLR on the market that is compatible with older
 TTL-only flashes! Nice touch :-)

 --
 Best Regards
 Sylwek





Re: FA* lenses

2003-09-16 Thread Mark Erickson
Keith wrote:
Mark Erickson wrote:
Keith, 

The FA* lenses have the following properties: 

 o) They are faster than non-FA* lenses.
Speed of focusing?
Pentax autofocus works via a motor in the camera
body.  Since there aren't equivalent (i.e., same
focal length and aperture) non-FA* lenses, this question
isn't really answerable.  As Bruce Dayton mentioned,
the FA* lenses have a clutch system that disengages
the manual-focus ring when you use autofocus. 


 o) They are sharp (at least, the ones I own are).
High resolution and good contrast?
Sure.  Better than other similar lenses?  I don't
know.  I haven't done a horse-race between, say, an
FA* 80-200 F2.8 and any of the non FA* zooms. 

--Mark



Re: First Pano Try

2003-09-16 Thread Herb Chong
i try for a little less than 50% overlap, but that is when using the
panorama software that does blending between images. if butting or blending
by hand, you will want a lot less overlap, but there is higher risk of
alignment mismatches.

the 44 inch limit may be a problem that the printer driver doesn't handle.
you may want to try to print paper to a file to see if it crashes the
printer driver or not after limiting to 44 inches or a bit less.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: First Pano Try


 Thanks Herb - looks like some interesting info there. I just lined things
 up in the finder after carefully getting the camera level - using a Pz-1p
 and FA20-35 f4 zoom. It worked OK but there was much more overlapping the
 frames than I wanted - probably because the coverage of the Pz-1p's
finder.
 An Mz-S or LX would have been much better in that regard.




Re: Any more *istD questions?

2003-09-16 Thread Frits Wuthrich
Heiko,

What kind of remote control can the *ist D use? Will it take the cable
release F that I have for the PZ-1?

On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 08:56, Heiko Hamann wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I will have the possibility to handle a *istD at the weekend. If I shall  
 try soemthing for you, then tell me. I will take some FA-lenses with me,  
 a SMC-M 10/2.8 and my AF500FTZ.
 
 Cheers, Heiko
-- 
Frits Wuthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Impressions of a scholar

2003-09-16 Thread frank theriault
Hi, Larry,

Ever see the movie Best of Show, directed by Christopher Guest?  Eugene Levy
(a Torontonian!) played a fellow with two left feet.  It was funny.

Your post reminded me of that.  And, not because your surname is Levy - but
how weird is that, eh?  :-)

cheers,
frank

Larry Levy wrote:


 Ah, so you're ambi-sinestrous. I've been blessed with that all my life. It
 enables me to do more than my share of assuring that we don't live in a
 perfect world. Two left hands allows me to make lots of 87 or 92 degree
 corners. Anyone can make 90 degree corners.

 Larry

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Re: Pairs

2003-09-16 Thread frank theriault
I don't know, Keith,

Hand me that pair of pliers and we'll rip those kidneys out and take a
look!  g

cheers,
frank

Keith Whaley wrote:

 Can't say I have. Am I missing something?


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Re: OT: Leni Reifenstahl: A giant passes away

2003-09-16 Thread Larry Levy
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 12:47:01 -0400 (EDT)
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 But then I've always tended to think that art can stand and be judged
 independent of the artist. Good thing, since many famous painters have
been real
 assholes in real life.

Not just painters, either.  I can just about understand this when it's a
highly competitive field such as intertnational sports - to be the best
you have to beat your competition, and nice guys finish last.

But in a less competitive atmosphere it still seems that having whatever
it takes to set your work ahead of the pack often comes at the cost of
social skills.  Is this the price of fame?

Nah! Great artists are just people with great artistic ability.

By all counts (no pun intended), Haydn was this great guy and Bach, other
than being truly parsimonious (with all those kids, no wonder) gave freely
of his time to help his peers, while Wagner was jealous and totally
self-centered. Dickenson was totally reclusive while Whitman seemed to
always be out cruising. Django Reinhardt and Picasso remained above the
fray during WWII while others fled on moral principles.

Reifenstahl was one of the best documentary makers ever. She was excedingly
bright and chose to make what she wanted. I can't believe she didn't have
the smarts to know just what was going on. I have a friend who was 12 when
the war ended. Her father was a Nazi mayor in Germany and there are pictures
of her presenting flowers to the Leader. She says that she knew what was
going on, so it's difficult to believe that Leni didn't. It was to her
benefit, so she did it. People like that don't cause millions to be killed,
but they do make it easier for the monsters to ply their trade.

This doesn't stop us from enjoying the quality of their work.

Larry





Re: Any more *istD questions?

2003-09-16 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi Frits,

on 16 Sep 03 you wrote in pentax.list:

What kind of remote control can the *ist D use? Will it take the cable
release F that I have for the PZ-1?

We have used the IR remote controls, only. Which rc does the PZ-1 use?  
Is it the same as that of the ZX-5? This on cannot be used.

Cheers, Heiko



Re: FA* lenses

2003-09-16 Thread Keith Whaley


Mark Erickson wrote:
 
 Keith wrote:
 Mark Erickson wrote:
 
  Keith,
 
  The FA* lenses have the following properties:
 
   o) They are faster than non-FA* lenses.
 
 Speed of focusing?
 
 Pentax autofocus works via a motor in the camera
 body.  Since there aren't equivalent (i.e., same
 focal length and aperture) non-FA* lenses, this question
 isn't really answerable.  As Bruce Dayton mentioned,
 the FA* lenses have a clutch system that disengages
 the manual-focus ring when you use autofocus.

Then why the statement They are faster than non-FA* lenses?

keith



Re: FA* lenses

2003-09-16 Thread Matt Bevers
On Tuesday, September 16, 2003, at 05:19  PM, Keith Whaley wrote:
Then why the statement They are faster than non-FA* lenses?



I think the original poster meant faster in the sense of larger max 
aperture



RE: Any more *istD questions?

2003-09-16 Thread Bill Owens
IIRC the *ist D and ZX-L use the same remote cable, which is different from
those for the MZ-S and which is different from the other ZX series.  IOW, if
you have a ZX-5n, MZ-S and *ist series, you will need three different
cables.  The dumbest move I've seen Pentax make.

Bill

-Original Message-
From: Heiko Hamann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 5:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Any more *istD questions?


Hi Frits,

on 16 Sep 03 you wrote in pentax.list:

What kind of remote control can the *ist D use? Will it take the cable
release F that I have for the PZ-1?

We have used the IR remote controls, only. Which rc does the PZ-1 use?
Is it the same as that of the ZX-5? This on cannot be used.

Cheers, Heiko





Re: OT: Politics and Art-was: Leni Reifenstahl: A giant passes away

2003-09-16 Thread frank theriault
As usual, Bob,  you've managed to express what I'd say much more eloquently than I 
could
have.

However, one final note (promise, really):

Marnie, I can separate art from the artisit.  And, although the artist's personal life
or views may affect my view of their art, if it's good art, I'll appreciate it
regardless.  Wagner was a rabid anti-semite, but that doesn't make me not like his
operas - truth is I don't like ~anyone's~ operas, but that's a whole other kettle of
fish...  vbg

OTOH, if one's political views are present in their work, it's hard to ignore.  Take
Lewis Hine and his photographs of child labourers in cotton mills.  They're incredibly
powerful images in their own right.  Does it add anything to them to know that Hine was
a social worker, and that his documenting those children was in part, due to his desire
to bring about anti-child-labour legislation?  It does for me.

I don't know for sure what Reifenstahl was thinking when she made Triumph of the Will.
Was it merely a commission as she says?  Or, even if she wasn't officially a party
member, did some of what I suspect was her enthusiasm for what the party stood for, 
come
through in the film?

Whatever the case, the film in and of itself is political.  So maybe it's the politics
of the film that bother me, not hers.  Pretty hard to figure out which politics is
which, after a while.  And, now that I think of it, the whole it was just a 
commission
thing is a load of crap, isn't it?  I'd like to think that if the Aryan Nation, or some
other neo-nazi group called me up and said, Hey, frank, we've seen your work on PUG,
and we like it.  We hear you're a struggling photographer, working at a dead end job,
and that you'd like to make a bit more money from your photography.  Well, we'll pay 
you
to photograph us at rallies and the like.  Hang out at our meetings, document what 
we're
up to - you'll have free access to everything we do.  We know you aren't a white
supremecist, but that's okay, we're confident that as a Professional Photographer,
you'll be able to take our money, and produce the type of photos we want.  I think I
know what I'd say.  And, knowing you a little bit as I do, I think I know what you'd
say, Marnie.  Problem is, Leni didn't say what we would have...

That's it, my last word on this!!  All subsequent responses will be off-list, I 
promise!

cheers,
frank

Bob Walkden wrote:

 Hi,

 Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 4:19:17 PM, you wrote:

  I'll add one more comment. Frankly, I don't care if Reifenstahl was a Nazi or
  not -- her film, like all art work can stand alone, independent of the
  creator.

 Her work is so recognisable as being of that time that I don't believe
 you can separate the 2 and see the work as something isolated, or fail
 to consider Riefenstahl's position in this. She was perhaps naive when
 she first became involved. Maybe she thought Nazism was much the same
 as a great big Busby Berkeley musical, all camera angles and
 synchronised high-kicking. Somehow I doubt that, and I don't think
 you can really view them in the same way you'd look at stills from a
 Busby Berkeley review.

  And her propaganda did not significantly increase Hitler's power, the
  events she shot he was doing anyway. He was already a master of propaganda without
  her. I heard way back when in my film class that the problem was, she did her
  job too well. I tend to agree with that. Thus it makes it hard to see what
  her own stand was or might have been independent of what she produced. But like
  I said previously, no one else gave us a such a powerful visual record -- an
  insight into the times and the thinking -- as close to insider glimpse of a
  turbulent and very strange time in history as we are likely to ever have. We'd
  be poorer, much poorer, without it.

 It is certainly a powerful record, and I appreciate it as much as
 anybody, but let's not kid ourselves into thinking it's an inser's
 view. If she was an insider then she must take her share of the
 responsibility for events. She claimed she was not an insider. Her
 pictures and movies are not in any way fly-on-the-wall stuff; they are
 all rehearsed and cannot possibly be treated as documentary in any
 modern sense of the word, so I don't see what glimpse we are getting
 of this time.

 Where is the insight in her photographs  films? They are extremely
 shallow. She saw only the surface of things. Look at what she has
 influenced: advertisements for Calvin Klein; James Bond films; Annie
 Leibovitz's celebrity portraits. Flashy, exciting, emotive, but
 trivial with no depth. She was ahead of her time.

  But then I've always tended to think that art can stand and be judged
  independent of the artist. Good thing, since many famous painters have been real
  assholes in real life.

 In my opinion you can gain more from the art by knowing about the
 artist's life. Knowing that Picasso was Spanish certainly adds to the
 power of 'Guernica', for instance.

 --
 

Anybody bought or used the Bessaflex TM??

2003-09-16 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Curious if anyone here has bought or used
the new Bessaflex TM SLR which can use
the sublime SMC Takumars (Pentax Screwmounts to
the uninitiated...).
JCO



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Re: Re-enabled.

2003-09-16 Thread frank theriault
What's next, Collin, a Diana?  g

cheers,
frank

Collin Brendemuehl wrote:

 Holga's her name.
 $1.91 + tax was her price.
 Yes, she was both cheap and easy.
 But she's all mine.
 Now to shoot her.

 --
 --

 Collin Brendemuehl
 KC8TKA

 The problems are so over-rated.
 -- Petula Clark
 --

--
Hell is others
-Jean Paul Sartre




Re: FA* Lenses

2003-09-16 Thread Alan Chan
o) They are faster than non-FA* lenses.
Not aware of. FA*85/1.4 is no faster than A*85/1.4. FA*300/4.5 is the same 
as F*300/4.5, and slower than any M/A 300/4.

o) They are sharp (at least, the ones I own are).
FA*24/2 is not particular sharp, and my 2 samples perform the same. 
FA*85/1.4 is great at close distance (1-3m), but sucks at near infinity or 
with extension tubes.

o) Their build quality is generally very solid.
Basically yes, except the silly window frame which is actually worse than 
regular FA lenses.

My best 35mm hand-held shots have been with my FA* 85mm F1.4
lens.  It is a _wonderful_ indoor portrait/action lens.
Images shot wide-open are very smooth and have a certain
glow to them that I really like.  That said, I haven't had
a chance to compare this lens to, say, the 85mm F1.8
lens.
Ironically, I have never been able to obtain very sharp result when 
handholding the FA*85/1.4. I guess it has to do with the balance. No such 
problem with the FA77/1.8.

Alan Chan
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Re: Star lenses (was: Re: Reputable dealer?)

2003-09-16 Thread Alan Chan
I read somewhere that the Star in the Pentax lenses stands for
APO, so it should apply to the apochromatic lenses. But I may be
wrong...
I don't know the exact techanical differences, but Pentax  Nikkor use ED, 
while Sigma use APO.

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Re: FA* lenses

2003-09-16 Thread Herb Chong
Mark misunderstood your question. the FA* lenses are all faster in terms of
larger aperture. the FA* 80-200 is f2.8. compare that with the FA 80-200
f4-5.6. they are, if anything, slower in focusing speed since the moving
elements are heavier, but Pentax presumably designed the AF motors to be
strong enough to achieve adequate times on lenses with lots of moving
elements. i was surprised how fast the AF worked on my Sigma 50-500. doesn't
feel any different in speed from my FA 24-90.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: FA* lenses


 Then why the statement They are faster than non-FA* lenses?

 keith






Re: Any more *istD questions?

2003-09-16 Thread Herb Chong
the *ist uses the same cable.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 5:27 PM
Subject: RE: Any more *istD questions?


 IIRC the *ist D and ZX-L use the same remote cable, which is different
from
 those for the MZ-S and which is different from the other ZX series.  IOW,
if
 you have a ZX-5n, MZ-S and *ist series, you will need three different
 cables.  The dumbest move I've seen Pentax make.




Re: *istD works with classic TTL flashes!

2003-09-16 Thread Alan Chan
So I can use my old flash with the *istD but I'll have to tote an external
meter to use my older lenses, strange priorities? :-(
Damn, we should request Pentax to trade the old-TTL-flash capability for the 
aperture ring capability. Now is too late. But as I said before, Pentax 
prefer things to be not too perfect.  :-)

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Cable Switches

2003-09-16 Thread Gregory L. Hansen
Bill Owens said:

 IIRC the *ist D and ZX-L use the same remote cable, which is different from
 those for the MZ-S and which is different from the other ZX series.  IOW, if
 you have a ZX-5n, MZ-S and *ist series, you will need three different
 cables.  The dumbest move I've seen Pentax make.

Speaking of which, what *is* the connector used for the cable switch in
the ZX-L?  I've toyed with the idea of making one with a very long cable,
or maybe on a motion detector or something, but I don't know what
connector it uses.  Certainly not anything that Radio Shack carries, but
if the Newark catalog has it, I don't know what to ask for.



No one picked up this one??? :-)

2003-09-16 Thread Paul Eriksson
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Re: And here's my little gallery...

2003-09-16 Thread Kathleen
Great photos, Steve!  My favorite was the one of Frenchmen's bay, but they
were all so lovely it was really difficult to choose.
Kathy L.
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From: Steve Sharpe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 9:42 AM
Subject: And here's my little gallery...


 http://www.milestone-media.com/main/main/photo_gallery.html

 Constructive comments are welcome!
 --
 Steve
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Re: Tele-converter, Pentax, Pentax or Vivitar, at wich price?

2003-09-16 Thread Fred
 you'll have the equivalent of a f16 400mm with any if these 
 converters

Well, a 2X TC used with a K 200/4 would give you 400mm at ~f/8~
(but, of course, you would then usually stop down, if possible).

Fred




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