Re: The Kiss - Jpeg
On 6/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: I expected Shel to say he used footlights. Regards, Bob S. Absolutely. The lighting with sole! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ
On Fri, 6 Feb 2004, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Thu, 5 Feb 2004, mike wilson wrote: You could just use Pentax analogue TTL flashes with your newer body. Does pretty much everything except high speed, trailing shutter and wireless. Thanks. Thing is, I just bought a 500FTZ from Jaume :-) Can't believe there is no matter for brackets, though the lack of Market. Market. Can't believe there is no MARKET for brackets. responses in the list just shows it's so. Kostas
Digitial cameras - must have feature set
Hi, Edwin wrote: snip although I was surprised to discover that the D100 does not have the turn this way to focus arrows as well snip ROTFLMAOUIP I'm still not going to buy one until they have perfect composition achieved and shoot now voiceovers. 8-))) mike
Re: Older non Pentax flash on *istD
Hi, Christian wrote: I used to use the AF360FGZ on the LX, MX and SuperProgram It worked in Manual or Automatic on the MX and TTL Manual or Automatic on the LX and SP. Originally I was a bit worried about damage, but it never happened. It wasn't explicit but I was referring to TTL operation. Operations that do not require control input from outside the flash (other than fire now) will not be affected. I am unfamiliar with the AF360FGZ but I am still suprised that it will work on TTL mode on anything other than a digitally controlled body. Did you mean to write TTL Manual or did you mean TTL, Manual? If the first, what is TTL Manual? In either case, how did you get TTL on an SP? And still, I do not understand how a flash with a trigger voltage in single figures will damage a camera designed to cope with one in the high hundreds. mike
Re: The Kiss - JPEG
On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 03:19:42 -0500 (EST), you wrote: ... or if a bunch of people really are interested in hearing it, which would surprise me, I can go ahead and write about submission, subservience, and service mindsets here on the list. -- Glenn No need, Glenn, we are all begging at the well of mother Pentax, waiting for a tasty drip, or hording the cool water from earlier times, so in some way we instinctively know all about a couple of those topics, to a greater or lesser extent depending on our ability to break the spell. -- John Mustarde www.photolin.com
RE: GFM plans
The snakeskin was there. Click the thumbnail that says lxen (LXen for the plural of LX). Len * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 I don't see any snakeskin in that pic, btw... Cotty - I think he has more gear than a mobile Adorama tan. Bill Owens posted this link: http://groups.msn.com/CesarsPhotography/_whatsnew.msnw Bill
RE: GFM plans
I think today is a full moon day, isn't it? 6 Feb? Len * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 Hope it isn't going to be a full moon! I'm a bonafide lunatic annsan
RE: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ
I use a Stroboframe flip-top and an off-camera flash cable with my 500FTZ, PZ-1p and *ist D. It's a good thing. I just didn't think that you wanted to hear about Stroboframe, or I would have mentioned it sooner. Len * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 Thanks. Thing is, I just bought a 500FTZ from Jaume :-) Can't believe there is no matter for brackets, though the lack of responses in the list just shows it's so. Kostas
WAAAYY OT:Holiday?
According to my calendar, today is Waitangi Day in NZ. What the heck is a Waitangi? Bill
FS Friday: Last call on this gear
This stuff goes to eBay this weekend if there are no takers from the PDML. Z-1p in almost-like-new condition. With body cap, manual, box and packing. AND extra battery. $300.00 ME in KEH bargain condition; everything works but there are some *small* dents on the right side of the pentaprism housing. $40.00 for an ideal carry everywhere second camera. Near MINT K2 with SMC 50 f/1.4 (the original K series lens - 52mm filter size) also in virtually perfect condition with Pentax 52mm lens cap. Includes original owner's manual and Pentax everready case. This camera and lens could go on the shelf of a camera shop and pass for new stock. Lovely stuff. $250.00 -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
RE: WAAAYY OT:Holiday?
This is the day commemorating the signing of the Treaty of Waitangi (a treaty between the indigenous peoples (most commonly referred to as Maori) of Aotearoa (New Zealand) and the colonising British in 1840. See http://www.archives.govt.nz/holdings/treaty_frame.html for further details. Cheers Shaun Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services Lawrence Way, Karratha, Western Australia, 6714 Mob: 0414-967 644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.heritageservices.com.au -Original Message- From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 6 February 2004 9:17 PM To: PDML Subject: WAAAYY OT:Holiday? According to my calendar, today is Waitangi Day in NZ. What the heck is a Waitangi? Bill
RE: WAAAYY OT:Holiday?
See: http://onenews.nzoom.com/onenews_detail/0,1227,253649-1-7,00.html Len * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 According to my calendar, today is Waitangi Day in NZ. What the heck is a Waitangi? Bill
RE: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ
On Fri, 6 Feb 2004, Len Paris wrote: I use a Stroboframe flip-top and an off-camera flash cable with my 500FTZ, PZ-1p and *ist D. It's a good thing. I just didn't think that you wanted to hear about Stroboframe, or I would have mentioned it sooner. Thanks Len. I will see what I can find on the web, but if in the meanwhile you want to elaborate on why I would not want to hear, I would be interested :-) I had a look and they seem to be much more than a substitute for the (subtlish) Pentax grip. Kostas
Re: OT: Cross Processing Q (and and!)
Hi Mark, I was experimenting with cross processing a while ago and tried Elitechrome 200, Ektachrome 160T, 320T and 100 Plus. All rated two stops over. Elitechrome didn't yield very pleasing results with a loud green hue. From other accounts, I've heard 160T should produce a pinkish hue (which I didn't want) so I made a request at the lab that they reduce magenta, and the results I didn't mind too much. My results with 320T produced significantly different results in different lighting conditions. Bright subjects taken from the shade had a slight pinkish tone and had an aged newspaper look, while in bright sun, metal looked chromy and radiant and skies became noticeably bluer (similar to when using a polariser). 100 Plus gave pleasing results (if you're into the somewhat stereotyped high saturation, high contrast, deep shadows, fashion mag type shots) although in quite a few shots where there was strong contrast between colours, a purplish/magenta ink seemed to leak across (halation? Well you can see what I mean in my first example, between his sleeve and skin. There's an out of place purple splotch). Oh the site is: http://home.iprimus.com.au/heygoose/xp/xproc.htm I put it together just now in PSCS (automated galleries.. handy) specially to reply to this email! I don't think there is a particular 'expected result' of a tungsten balanced film, but you could say there's an expected result of a specific film. For example Elitechrome would always give you that green hue (though you can choose to get them to colour balance it, which some might say moots the x-processing exercise) and you wouldn't expect to get the results EPP or Velvia give (similar results when crossed.. I like). Also unless someone here has specifically tried crossing out of date ISO 60 daylight film (results very manufacturer to manufacturer too because of different emulsions used), I don't think you'll get a straight answer. Perhaps shoot some then show and tell! Anyway, I hope some of this is useful to ya :-) Cheers, Ryan PS. Expired in 1988??? - Original Message - From: Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 12:16 PM Subject: Cross Processing Q I went out shooting yesterday, and on impulse took a couple of rolls of Kodak E160-T, tungsten balanced slide film. I found this at my father's house last summer - it had expired in 1988. I assume it was not good for it's intended purpose, so I thought I'd shoot it and have it cross processed as standard negative film. The results - well, when scanned as a negative it looks a lot like a regular color photo. A bit grainy and some subtle changes in the colors, but nothing outlandish. the film looks a lot like a color negative - even has an orange cast to the blank areas. Is this expected result with a tungsten balanced film? I have a few similarly out of date rolls of an ISO 60 daylight balanced film - what will that do if cross processed? TIA - MCC - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI http://www.markcassino.com -
Re: Cool, Colorful Bike Shot
the colors and graphical elements are nice. I would have waited for the person to leave the frame before I tripped the shutter. I would probably have put the bike in the center of the frame as well. Christian - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED]; frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 12:14 AM Subject: Cool, Colorful Bike Shot http://www.leica-camera.com/discus_e/messages/11/47385.html?1076043400
Re: WAAAYY OT:Holiday?
Thanks Len and Shaun. Bill - Original Message - From: Len Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 8:38 AM Subject: RE: WAAAYY OT:Holiday? See: http://onenews.nzoom.com/onenews_detail/0,1227,253649-1-7,00.html Len * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 According to my calendar, today is Waitangi Day in NZ. What the heck is a Waitangi? Bill
Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ
Kostas; Most people use a third party bracket like Stroboframe, etc. combined with the appropriate off-camera accessories for the newer Pentax flashes. Christian - Original Message - From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 4:28 AM Subject: Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ On Thu, 5 Feb 2004, mike wilson wrote: You could just use Pentax analogue TTL flashes with your newer body. Does pretty much everything except high speed, trailing shutter and wireless. Thanks. Thing is, I just bought a 500FTZ from Jaume :-) Can't believe there is no matter for brackets, though the lack of responses in the list just shows it's so. Kostas
Re: Older non Pentax flash on *istD
- Original Message - From: mike.wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] It wasn't explicit but I was referring to TTL operation. Operations that do not require control input from outside the flash (other than fire now) will not be affected. I am unfamiliar with the AF360FGZ but I am still suprised that it will work on TTL mode on anything other than a digitally controlled body. Did you mean to write TTL Manual or did you mean TTL, Manual? Sorry, poor grammer, I meant TTL, manual Christian
RE: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ
Many folks feel that they are ungainly, unsightly, and would stifle their artistic creativity, if they ever used a Stroboframe. The Stroboframe has been the mainstay of PJs and wedding/event photographers for a long time. Also, I've mentioned using them quite a few times in the past. I hate to keep repeating stuff. They are much more than a substitute for the Pentax grip. They keep the flash about ten inches and centered above the lens. No red eye and no harsh shadows. I put a Sto-fen Omnibounce on the flash, as well. Makes for nice soft lighting. Len * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 Thanks Len. I will see what I can find on the web, but if in the meanwhile you want to elaborate on why I would not want to hear, I would be interested :-) I had a look and they seem to be much more than a substitute for the (subtlish) Pentax grip. Kostas
Re: Digital cameras - must have feature set
I want a camera that will not only talk but give me idle flattery after each shot. Great shot! Superb composition. I particularly like the balance of . . . If I remember correctly, there already exists (for quite a while) a program that will generate random art critiques. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ
On Fri, 6 Feb 2004, Len Paris wrote: Many folks feel that they are ungainly, unsightly, and would stifle their artistic creativity, if they ever used a Stroboframe. The Stroboframe has been the mainstay of PJs and wedding/event photographers for a long time. Also, I've mentioned using them quite a few times in the past. I hate to keep repeating stuff. Thanks for this. Please be lenient with me about the last bit. There are quite a few threads I (and others, I guess) don't follow. Additionally, I may have seen it mentioned before, but there is just so much technical stuff mentioned in the list that I don't understand. Thanks again for taking the time. I found a supplier (speedgraphic) and will look into their catalogue; in addition to Strobo* they seem to have a cheap Hama bracket which puts the flash where the Pentax bracket does. Kostas
RE: Digital cameras - must have feature set
LOL You need to combine this with fingerprint or retinal recognition so that when the 'owner' is not the one taking a photo it says well Steve coulda done better than that or c'mon get the pro back... -Original Message- From: Steve Desjardins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 February 2004 14:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Digital cameras - must have feature set I want a camera that will not only talk but give me idle flattery after each shot. Great shot! Superb composition. I particularly like the balance of . . . If I remember correctly, there already exists (for quite a while) a program that will generate random art critiques. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Oh poop
I'm not really worried about my MF camera. Living in a small town, I already have to buy film and do processing by mail order. Of course, your favorite flavor might go away but now is a great time to be interested in older model film cameras, especially since there might be some sell off. This should be of concern to Pentax. The 24 x 36, 10 + MP sensor cameras are leading some pros away from MF, which means that there will be some sell off of 645 n's and nII's to buy a C 1Ds. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/05/04 04:14PM Hi all Just my luck,now that digital is wiping out film,I finally find a colour film i like using the 6x7. My vote now goes to Reala. I have shot equal numbers of Kodak and Fuji in the last few months and i like the colours,crispness and the fact the prints look 'life like'. Oh well Dave
Re: Digital cameras - must have feature set
- Original Message - From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want a camera that will not only talk but give me idle flattery after each shot. Great shot! Superb composition. I particularly like the balance of . . . I think I'd prefer mine to say such things as: What the hell were you looking at when you took THAT one? or Sheesh! your 7 year-old does better than that! or Are you even trying? Christian
6 x 7 Questions
It looks like the *ist-D will replace a lot of my 35mm work, and in the areas where it won't replace 35mm I really should be using a larger format anyhow. So I plan to move up to a 6 x 7 system. Obviously, I'd like to stick with Pentax for this. A couple of quick questions: I've heard that the Pentax 6 x 7 has a big problem with mirror slap making photos unsharp. Is that true? Do all models have mirror lock up, or do I need to look for one that has that as an added feature? Any recommendations regarding finders? I have a decent light meter (Polaris) and a spot metering attachment for it, so I don't see the need for a TTL meter as a priority. How about lenses? I plan to use this for landscapes and figure something with the equivalent FOV to a 28mm or 35mm lens on a 35mm camera would be best. What 6 x 7 lenses have that FOV ? I'm guessing 70 - 80 mm? Are there any zooms of acceptable quality that cover that range? What lenses would be recommended - and any dogs to be avoided? Aside from eBay and KEH - any recommendations on where to buy a setup? TIA - MCC - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI http://www.markcassino.com -
Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ
You said that you didn't want to consider the larger brackets. That is the kind I use - to get the flash high and centered. Stroboframe quickflip 35, Stroboframe Pro-RL. HTH, Bruce Friday, February 6, 2004, 1:28:51 AM, you wrote: KK On Thu, 5 Feb 2004, mike wilson wrote: You could just use Pentax analogue TTL flashes with your newer body. Does pretty much everything except high speed, trailing shutter and wireless. KK Thanks. Thing is, I just bought a 500FTZ from Jaume :-) KK Can't believe there is no matter for brackets, though the lack of KK responses in the list just shows it's so. KK Kostas
Re: The Kiss - JPEG
I find it fascinating and slightly disturbing, probably because my own cultural upbringing does not associate good things with foot-kissing. The odd texture of the tones also gives it a something is wrong feeling. This is a good example of a powerful photo whose primary effect (for me) is discomfort. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: D70 hands-on and long DSLRS rant
Hi! Frantisek Vlcek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most the current semi-pro DSLRs are very good on the computer or digital side, but with their smalling viewfinder, I can't see the details of what I am photographing... Is it a smile or a crooked expression on the model's face?!? What is worse I need a DSLR, and I need it now. And I don't have money for the super best models, 8000$ is quite a lot... Enough. I hope I didn't bore you :) You hope right, you did not bore me, at least. I actually think that modern dare I say consumer grade DSLRs put in optical viewfinder more or less as an atavism of sorts. I don't think that one is really expected to use this kind of viewfinder anyway. One would normally use the LCD on the back of the camera. And unless this is indeed above five grand body, it would seem like AF would have to do. It is rather stupid about AF. With high end camera one could still focus manually, while with supposedly simpler cheaper model one would be almost forced to rely on AF... Anyway, just my cents... Boris
Re: North Americans
- Original Message - From: Bill Owens Subject: Re: North Americans How about Southern California? What about earthquakes? Don't they get those? And You will have to dismantle that awful Los Angeles thing before we could possibly consider it. How about Arizona? Lots of us already go there for the winter, so it's already familiar. Maybe in return, we'll give you Quebec. They are rather a recalcitrant lot, but they make great cheese. WW
Re: OT: North Americans
- Original Message - From: Lasse Karlsson Subject: Re: OT: North Americans From: Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Since it's our language I would think that we can call Indians anything we want to as long as no offense is intended, and if it is there's really nothing that can be done about it anyway. I think the above is a very interesting statement. It's funny and it is amusing. The Indians themselves (at least the ones where I live) call themselves Indians. Here are a few local organizations: FSIN: Federation of Saskatchewan Indian Nations SIFC: SASKATCHEWAN INDIAN FEDERATED COLLEGE These are both Indian owned and operated. Started by Indians, and run by Indians. Since the Indians are comfortable enough with the term to use it in the names of both their political organizations and their universities, just what is your problem, Lasse? William Robb
Re: *istD current best price $1349 US?
- Original Message - From: mapson Subject: Re: *istD current best price $1349 US? So, what is the price that we are hoping to see? what would we consider to be a reasonable price, that includes all the discounts, rebates, drops, cuts and reductions? (Of course we all wait to see it drop below the magical US$1000) ;-) From the sounds of it, a reasonable price is one where Pentax makes no money on the product, thereby ensuring that they don't recover the RD costs, therby ensuring that they don't bother to make another one, since the customer base is a bunch of cheapos who won't make it worth their while. William Robb
Re: Digital cameras - must have feature set
- Original Message - From: Steve Desjardins Subject: Re: Digital cameras - must have feature set I want a camera that will not only talk but give me idle flattery after each shot. I want one that will auto correct my compositions. William Robb
Re: 6 x 7 Questions
I can answer a few for you Mark: Mark Cassino wrote: It looks like the *ist-D will replace a lot of my 35mm work, and in the areas where it won't replace 35mm I really should be using a larger format anyhow. So I plan to move up to a 6 x 7 system. Obviously, I'd like to stick with Pentax for this. A couple of quick questions: I've heard that the Pentax 6 x 7 has a big problem with mirror slap making photos unsharp. Is that true? I've never personally experienced it and most say it is bogusit's think it's urban legend derived from the noise. (bit below that of a shotgun) Do all models have mirror lock up, or do I need to look for one that has that as an added feature? The early Pentax 6x7's didn't have MLU, the rest do. The MLU button is on the shutter release side of the lens mount. Any recommendations regarding finders? I have a decent light meter (Polaris) and a spot metering attachment for it, so I don't see the need for a TTL meter as a priority. I use the TTL and like it, but perhaps you might just get the prism (very inexpensive) finder. How about lenses? I plan to use this for landscapes and figure something with the equivalent FOV to a 28mm or 35mm lens on a 35mm camera would be best. What 6 x 7 lenses have that FOV ? I'm guessing 70 - 80 mm? Are there any zooms of acceptable quality that cover that range? What lenses would be recommended - and any dogs to be avoided? I have a new model 45mmf4, which is about a 22mm on a 35. I like it. A lot. I think the 55mm is closer to your wanted FOV, however I've heard mixed results about this lens. Then again I don't have a clue since I've never used one. Aside from eBay and KEH - any recommendations on where to buy a setup? Hang out on some digital forums G Norm
Re: OT: D70 hands-on and long DSLRS rant
- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman Subject: Re: OT: D70 hands-on and long DSLRS rant I actually think that modern dare I say consumer grade DSLRs put in optical viewfinder more or less as an atavism of sorts. I don't think that one is really expected to use this kind of viewfinder anyway. One would normally use the LCD on the back of the camera. And unless this is indeed above five grand body, it would seem like AF would have to do. It is rather stupid about AF. With high end camera one could still focus manually, while with supposedly simpler cheaper model one would be almost forced to rely on AF... Unfortunately with DSLR's, the LCD panel is review only, it is not a viewfinder. I don't know about the competition, but the istD is good to manual focus with anything 24mm's and longer. This is typical of SLRs in general. William Robb
Re: 6 x 7 Questions
- Original Message - From: Mark Cassino Subject: 6 x 7 Questions A couple of quick questions: I've heard that the Pentax 6 x 7 has a big problem with mirror slap making photos unsharp. Is that true? Do all models have mirror lock up, or do I need to look for one that has that as an added feature? You have heard wrong. The 6x7 is noisy, but has less mirror or shutter induced vibration than a Super program. The earliest model didn't have MLU, but all models made in about the last 20 years have it. Any recommendations regarding finders? I have a decent light meter (Polaris) and a spot metering attachment for it, so I don't see the need for a TTL meter as a priority. The prisms all cut off quite a bit, I think almost 15% of the finder is cropped on the 6x7. I don't know about the new version. Something to keep in mind. Unfortunately, the prism finders are the only way to get a properly oriented viewfinder image The waist level finder is nice, but the camera is odd to use with it, as is the chimney finder. How about lenses? I plan to use this for landscapes and figure something with the equivalent FOV to a 28mm or 35mm lens on a 35mm camera would be best. What 6 x 7 lenses have that FOV ? I'm guessing 70 - 80 mm? Are there any zooms of acceptable quality that cover that range? What lenses would be recommended - and any dogs to be avoided? You can approximately double the 35mm focal length number to get a lens focal length whose field of view approximates the 6x7. About the only 6x7 lenses to be leary of are the old Takumar 75mm f/4.5, which has some flare problems, but is wonderfullt sharp, and the Takumar 200mm f/4, which is not as sharp as the later SMC Pentax 6x7 optic. William Robb
RE: 6 x 7 Questions
Midwest Camera Exchange in Columbus, OH. www.mpex.com They have more stuff than they list on their site. They will haggle, I expect especially on the 67, which seem to multiply in the showcase. Aside from eBay and KEH - any recommendations on where to buy a setup? ... Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI
Re: OT: D70 hands-on and long DSLRS rant
I actually think that modern dare I say consumer grade DSLRs put in optical viewfinder more or less as an atavism of sorts. I don't think that one is really expected to use this kind of viewfinder anyway. One would normally use the LCD on the back of the camera. You can't use the LCD to compose a picture in a DSLR. It's only for review purposes. Regards, Lukasz
Re: Digital cameras - must have feature set
William Robb wrote: I want one that will auto correct my compositions. That would be cool... would just it crop the photo appropriately, or physically drag you to the place where you *should* have stood? S
Re: *istD current best price $1349 US?
On Fri, 6 Feb 2004, William Robb wrote: From the sounds of it, a reasonable price is one where Pentax makes no money on the product, Why did this rub you the wrong way round? People were mostly complaining about retailers (potentially) pocketing the rebate. Or so I thought. I guess it's all relative, but my understanding is that in all cases early adopters pay a premium (ie early prices are inflated) and people buying the old model may pay less than what the manufacturer hoped (but then the new model is out, so they don't care). Sure, there are other reasons why prices drop, and you may be right that Pentax may find themselves in a nasty position as a result of awkward competition. But not as a result of customers shopping around for the one product, I don't think. It will be a sad day for me when I succumb to retailer profiteering under normal market circumstances. Kostas
Re: Viruses...
Norm Baugher wrote: Or, from today's spam summary: Subject: FWD:ok call of pers.weatlh...Balch Subject: minnesota bingle comic eleventh comptroller Subject: salutation hereinafter heathkit astigmatism glycerol Subject: Fw: Past Due Payment, acct Lela crystallographer nash iran Subject: Re: arpa Subject: Pastdue Account Issac crabmeat wisconsin cherish Wisconsin Crabmeat?? That has me interested g Norm Hey last night I got BALTIMORE ROACH MALFORMED it came from Trey Bland sounded spicy to me A new poetry form could be developed (pun intended) from these annsan annsan
RE: OT: North Americans
A few years ago, to abundant alumni objection, by wife's alma mater, Miami University (in Ohio), changed their team name from Redskins to something else...something so forgettable, I've forgotten it ! ;) The University had leave from the leadership of the Miami Indian tribe to use the name. In fact, the tribe was pleased to be associated with such a fine institution. And set this sentiment to paper, in letters to the University. However, student activists, probably prodded by more than a few malcontent professors, stirred things up enough that the name was ultimately changed. One friend quipped they changed the name to the Miami Thinskins. A similar thing happened at my school. Wright State University used to have a diminutive Viking as a mascot (think Grimli from LOTR, but comic) Aforementioned malcontents thought this mascot was too masculine. Now WSU is called the (in mocking tone) Wolfpack, complete with gender- neutral wolf mascot. sigh The Indians themselves (at least the ones where I live) call themselves Indians. Here are a few local organizations: FSIN: Federation of Saskatchewan Indian Nations SIFC: SASKATCHEWAN INDIAN FEDERATED COLLEGE These are both Indian owned and operated. Started by Indians, and run by Indians. Since the Indians are comfortable enough with the term to use it in the names of both their political organizations and their universities, just what is your problem, Lasse? William Robb
Re: North Americans
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Subject: Re: North Americans And FLAT. As far as I'm concerned you can have it. Entirely too hot and humid for my tastes. Ewwwe, hot humid and flat. What have you got thats a bit more upscale. Nothing too pretentious, but comfortable on a winter's night? WW YOu KNOW you want south east UTAH , Bill, so why not just say so??? :) annsan
Re: GFM plans
Len Paris wrote: I think today is a full moon day, isn't it? 6 Feb? Len * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 Hope it isn't going to be a full moon! I'm a bonafide lunatic annsan alas, yes I saw it last night watch out! annsan
RE: *istD current best price $1349 US?
-Original Message- From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 10:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *istD current best price $1349 US? ... Why did this rub you the wrong way round? People were mostly complaining about retailers (potentially) pocketing the rebate. Or so I thought. That's what I think is happening. Adorama keeps bouncing the price between $1225 and $1359 (or thereabouts), and periodically citing a $100 Pentax rebate of which I was unaware. BH's response has been to simply unhide their selling price, but didn't budge it. Reputable low-price camera dealers in the US seem to be a microcosm, and with such limited competition (not counting the Cambridge's, CCI's, and other bottom-feeders) competitive forces are slow to come into play. I guess the *ist D is selling well enough Adorama and BH are going to enjoy a fatter margin for another week to two. Doesn't always happen that way though. Very soon (a day or so) after Rollei annouced a dramatic price drop on the AFM35 PS, BH dropped their price proportionally. Adorama followed suite within a day. Both sold out very quickly. The AFM35, exclusive of the post-price drop feeding frenzy, was probably a slow seller, however. Aric
Re: 6 x 7 Questions
Hello Mark, Answers inline. Friday, February 6, 2004, 6:43:29 AM, you wrote: MC It looks like the *ist-D will replace a lot of my 35mm work, and in the MC areas where it won't replace 35mm I really should be using a larger format MC anyhow. So I plan to move up to a 6 x 7 system. Obviously, I'd like to MC stick with Pentax for this. For your kind of work, the Pentax 67 system is one of the best anyway. MC A couple of quick questions: MC I've heard that the Pentax 6 x 7 has a big problem with mirror slap making MC photos unsharp. Is that true? Do all models have mirror lock up, or do I MC need to look for one that has that as an added feature? Mirror slap is less of a problem than it is made out to be. Mostly with long lenses 300mm+ and poor technique. That being said, the 67II has less mirror slap than the older bodies. Be sure to get MLU (Mirror Lock Up) and use it when you can. MC Any recommendations regarding finders? I have a decent light meter MC (Polaris) and a spot metering attachment for it, so I don't see the need MC for a TTL meter as a priority. Most people use the TTL metering prism, but if you are going to use the external meter, the Rigid hood (horizontals) and non-metering prism are also good choices. The rigid hood has 100% coverage. Personally, I had 67II's and used the AE prism. This is a beautiful prism and I believe that it is a stop or two brighter than the older models. MC How about lenses? I plan to use this for landscapes and figure something MC with the equivalent FOV to a 28mm or 35mm lens on a 35mm camera would be MC best. What 6 x 7 lenses have that FOV ? I'm guessing 70 - 80 mm? Are MC there any zooms of acceptable quality that cover that range? What lenses MC would be recommended - and any dogs to be avoided? 67 lenses are not small. There are almost no dogs in the lineup. There are two zooms I believe, but they are quite big and slow. For the FOV you are talking about, the latest version 55/4 is THE lens to get. Along with that the new 75/2.8 is also great. I could never find a used 75/2.8 so settled for the SMC version of the 75/4.5. This is also a wonderful lens, just a bit slow. MC Aside from eBay and KEH - any recommendations on where to buy a setup? Follow Ebay. People are dumping systems these days going for digital. MC TIA - MC MCC MC - MC Mark Cassino Photography MC Kalamazoo, MI MC http://www.markcassino.com MC -
new OT topic - POlaroid emulsion transfer
IF anyone knows a simple how to for this or any comments on how yukky it might be to do (chemically speaking, health wise,etc.) I'd appreciate hearing off list from you. Also, I have about 150 polaroids from over 10 years ago stored away - they are emitting a nasty odor when I open the box...with no deterioration of image. thanks, annsan
Re: 6 x 7 Questions
Hi Mark, I've never had a problem with mirror slap. When shooting off a tripod, I use mirror lock up and I push down on the camera a bit with my hands as I trip the shutter. I've heard that dampens vibration a bit. However, I've had success without resorting to this. I frequently shoot cars for magazines with a 300mm lens and the 6x7. The results are razor sharp. I can blow up a 200 meg scan to 100 and see sharp detail of a bug on a headlight. (I've retouched a ffew of these :-). I frequently shoot as slow as 1/15 at f32. I've also used the same lens handheld, shooting at 1/250 with great results. My favorite landscape lens is the 55/4. Be sure to get the latest version with the typography on the outside of the barrell, much like some A lenses. (There are three different 55s: the early 55/3.5, the subsequent 55/4 with type inside the filter ring, and the latest version with the type outside of the barrel.) All but the earliest 6x7s come with mirror lock up. I have a TTL finder, but rarely use the meter. I generally stick with a handheld incident meter for important work. For walkarounds (which I have done with the 6x7) I'll use the TTL meter, but I don't consider it indispensable. I bought my 6x7 used for slightly more than $200, and it has performed flawlessly through at least 300 rolls of film. I've heard the latest model, the 67II, has a sturdier wind mechanism, and of course it offers goodies like TTL flash, but it's much more expensive. Paul Mark Cassino wrote: It looks like the *ist-D will replace a lot of my 35mm work, and in the areas where it won't replace 35mm I really should be using a larger format anyhow. So I plan to move up to a 6 x 7 system. Obviously, I'd like to stick with Pentax for this. A couple of quick questions: I've heard that the Pentax 6 x 7 has a big problem with mirror slap making photos unsharp. Is that true? Do all models have mirror lock up, or do I need to look for one that has that as an added feature? Any recommendations regarding finders? I have a decent light meter (Polaris) and a spot metering attachment for it, so I don't see the need for a TTL meter as a priority. How about lenses? I plan to use this for landscapes and figure something with the equivalent FOV to a 28mm or 35mm lens on a 35mm camera would be best. What 6 x 7 lenses have that FOV ? I'm guessing 70 - 80 mm? Are there any zooms of acceptable quality that cover that range? What lenses would be recommended - and any dogs to be avoided? Aside from eBay and KEH - any recommendations on where to buy a setup? TIA - MCC - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI http://www.markcassino.com -
Re: Digital cameras - must have feature set
How about, loudly I prefer the Playboy shoot we did yesterday... Norm Steve Desjardins wrote: I want a camera that will not only talk but give me idle flattery after each shot. Great shot! Superb composition. I particularly like the balance of . . .
Re: FS Friday: Last call on this gear
Hi, Mark, I already have a PZ-1p, or I'd be quite interested. Have there really been no takers so far at that price? I briefly put my PZ-1p (EX+) plus grip strap up for sale for $425 when I was considering switching to the MZ-S. I had no takers, and eventually decided I'd rather keep the PZ-1p anyway. I thought it was a good deal, as KEH has been selling PZ-1p's in EX and EX+ condition for $450-$485 or so. But is even the PZ-1p in so little demand on the list that prices have fallen this much? BTW, do you know why KEH consistently sells Z-1p cameras for significantly cheaper than PZ-1p cameras, even in the same condition? They are the exact same camera model, correct? Joe This stuff goes to eBay this weekend if there are no takers from the PDML. Z-1p in almost-like-new condition. With body cap, manual, box and packing. AND extra battery. $300.00 ME in KEH bargain condition; everything works but there are some *small* dents on the right side of the pentaprism housing. $40.00 for an ideal carry everywhere second camera. Near MINT K2 with SMC 50 f/1.4 (the original K series lens - 52mm filter size) also in virtually perfect condition with Pentax 52mm lens cap. Includes original owner's manual and Pentax everready case. This camera and lens could go on the shelf of a camera shop and pass for new stock. Lovely stuff. $250.00 -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Checking spot centre weighted
Charles Wilson wrote: Dear Rob, I tried what you suggested and changed from one to the other but they all showup the same am I missing something? Regards Charles It occurs to me that this subject line in someone's mailbox that didn't know what you were talking about would look like current spam jibberish :) annsan
RE: 6 x 7 Questions
That's Midwest Photo Exchange. You grow up in Ohio or what? :) They also ahve a medium format clearance sale on right now. Prices listed are ok, and as stated, they may deal some. Collin Old Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 08:29:10 -0700 From: Rothman, Aric [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Midwest Camera Exchange in Columbus, OH. www.mpex.com They have more stuff than they list on their site. They will haggle, I expect especially on the 67, which seem to multiply in the showcase. Aside from eBay and KEH - any recommendations on where to buy a setup? ... Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI Old
Re: North Americans
Old William Robb wrote: Ewwwe, hot humid and flat. Old Now leave Janet Jackout out of this! CRB
Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ
Hi, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: Thanks. Thing is, I just bought a 500FTZ from Jaume :-) Can't believe there is no matter for brackets, though the lack of responses in the list just shows it's so. Can't you use the HSG with one of the 5-series hotshoe whatsits and a 5-P cable? mike
Re: *istD current best price $1349 US?
Hello Kostas, If you are 8-10 years away from buying what does it matter? As to the facts, Pentax reduced the Manufactures Suggested Retail Price, not discounts from that. What discounters do with that is certainly their business. I would expect them to sell for the highest price they can. That would mean not initially passing the discount on - in a sense, they already were. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, February 6, 2004, 8:21:31 AM, you wrote: KK On Fri, 6 Feb 2004, Bruce Dayton wrote: What about the retailers that were already discounted below MSRP? KK Aren't they all? Should they also drop their prices $300? Seems that they would want to sell as close to MSRP-300 as possible. This was the case with my local shop. KK Again it's all relative, but let's compare like with like. This means, KK let's leave out the local shops and concentrate on Internet-based KK sales, as per the thread. While we all want low prices, the *istD is really targeted at the Canon 10D/Nikon D100 crowd. The pricing shouldn't be that different from them. KK Do C***n and N***n offer rebates? What is the point of a rebate if the KK consumer cannot benefit? are buying within their system or buying the top names in 35mm. They will still buy a 300D or D70. All that happens is Pentax loses money and has a real problem pricing a real BabyD. KK The discussion started with a fact and a question. KK Fact: There is a rebate on the *istD. KK Question: Who sells it cheaper, as a result of the above? KK The analysis that you are making about Pentax's situation sounds very KK plausible to me *but* this discussion started after the fact that KK Pentax reduced the price. If you want it, buy it! If you have followed the list, those who have by and large report very positively about the experience and use. KK Ahem. I have not tried/no funds/no real need for the Z1-p yet, let KK alone the MZ-S. I am probably 8-10 years away from the *istD. KK Kostas
Re: Digital Photography
Well, at least it makes me smile. At 09:40 PM 2/4/04, you wrote: Shel, If my kids won't make you smile, nothing will: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1106077size=lg vbg See? I bet you're smiling... -frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip Show me some soul, some heart, something to make me smile ... _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca I drink to make other people interesting. -- George Jean Nathan
RE: *istD current best price $1349 US?
Yeah, changing the MSRP only affects retailers selling at MSRP critically. What we don't know (presumably) is if they also changed the cost price for the camera to the shops? If not, then how/why would the retailer lower prices unless they werent offering the best deal already. In the UK IMO MSRP only affects the high street chains as they sell at this price because of who they are and only discount if you haggle. MSRP has no effect on internet/independant retailers because their price is based purely on what the goods cost them, their overhead and how much profit they can make without sales suffering. -Original Message- From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 February 2004 17:26 To: Kostas Kavoussanakis Subject: Re: *istD current best price $1349 US? Hello Kostas, If you are 8-10 years away from buying what does it matter? As to the facts, Pentax reduced the Manufactures Suggested Retail Price, not discounts from that. What discounters do with that is certainly their business. I would expect them to sell for the highest price they can. That would mean not initially passing the discount on - in a sense, they already were. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, February 6, 2004, 8:21:31 AM, you wrote: KK On Fri, 6 Feb 2004, Bruce Dayton wrote: What about the retailers that were already discounted below MSRP? KK Aren't they all? Should they also drop their prices $300? Seems that they would want to sell as close to MSRP-300 as possible. This was the case with my local shop. KK Again it's all relative, but let's compare like with like. This KK means, let's leave out the local shops and concentrate on KK Internet-based sales, as per the thread. While we all want low prices, the *istD is really targeted at the Canon 10D/Nikon D100 crowd. The pricing shouldn't be that different from them. KK Do C***n and N***n offer rebates? What is the point of a rebate if KK the consumer cannot benefit? are buying within their system or buying the top names in 35mm. They will still buy a 300D or D70. All that happens is Pentax loses money and has a real problem pricing a real BabyD. KK The discussion started with a fact and a question. KK Fact: There is a rebate on the *istD. KK Question: Who sells it cheaper, as a result of the above? KK The analysis that you are making about Pentax's situation sounds KK very plausible to me *but* this discussion started after the fact KK that Pentax reduced the price. If you want it, buy it! If you have followed the list, those who have by and large report very positively about the experience and use. KK Ahem. I have not tried/no funds/no real need for the Z1-p yet, let KK alone the MZ-S. I am probably 8-10 years away from the *istD. KK Kostas
Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ
On Fri, 6 Feb 2004, mike wilson wrote: Can't you use the HSG with one of the 5-series hotshoe whatsits and a 5-P cable? Before posting (or buying for that matter!) I downloaded the HSG manual from Pentax USA and it says that Dedicated/TTL flash is not possible with the 240FT or the 400FTZ. As they both have a 5P socket, I doubt that's the way to do it. And that's why I was hoping someone in the list might know. Thanks for the suggestion, Kostas
Re: *istD current best price $1349 US?
On Fri, 6 Feb 2004, Bruce Dayton wrote: If you are 8-10 years away from buying what does it matter? Similarly, if you have already bought it, why does it matter? As to the facts, Pentax reduced the Manufactures Suggested Retail Price, not discounts from that. What discounters do with that is certainly their business. I would expect them to sell for the highest price they can. That would mean not initially passing the discount on - in a sense, they already were. To conclude from that, if someone browses through the retailers looking for the one that passed more of the reduction to you and me (who don't need it, incidentally :-) should not upset people, should it? Kostas
Re: 6 x 7 Questions
Mark, I can only add few notes to the other comments. My experience with the 6x7 has been very satisfying so far, I've been using a early MLU model for the last three years and it performed almost flawlessly (it just missed a couple of times to fire the flash, but it is probably a fault of the cables...). Never experienced shutter or mirror induced vibrations, even with handheld shots with the 200mm, nor on tripod. I use the MLU almost ever when on tripod, though. About the lenses, I still have to find a less than wonderful lens. I have the current 45mm, a second version 55mm (came with the camera, really sharp - I'm told the latest version is the best lens in the lineup, but I can hardly imagine how they could have improved it...), a 90mm, a 135 macro (old verson, this one too is quite sharp, although goes anly to 1:3), the 165 LS (a very fine lens, bought as a bargain with some scratches in the coating of the front element, still performs very well) and the current 200mm. My favorite is probably the 55mm (around 28mm in 35mm terms), followed by the 200mm. I guess I could do almost everything with those two. Strangely, I don't find the 67 lenses to be heavy, although they're a bit bulky. When I bought my 6x7, it came with the 55mm, as I wrote above, and a waist level finder. Nice setup, unless you do many vertical shots (of course...) and quite portable. I like a lot the WL finder, it weighs almost nothing and let you see 100% of the field. Hope this helps. Ciao, Gianfranco - Original Message - From: Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 3:43 PM Subject: 6 x 7 Questions It looks like the *ist-D will replace a lot of my 35mm work, and in the areas where it won't replace 35mm I really should be using a larger format anyhow. So I plan to move up to a 6 x 7 system. Obviously, I'd like to stick with Pentax for this. A couple of quick questions: I've heard that the Pentax 6 x 7 has a big problem with mirror slap making photos unsharp. Is that true? Do all models have mirror lock up, or do I need to look for one that has that as an added feature? Any recommendations regarding finders? I have a decent light meter (Polaris) and a spot metering attachment for it, so I don't see the need for a TTL meter as a priority. How about lenses? I plan to use this for landscapes and figure something with the equivalent FOV to a 28mm or 35mm lens on a 35mm camera would be best. What 6 x 7 lenses have that FOV ? I'm guessing 70 - 80 mm? Are there any zooms of acceptable quality that cover that range? What lenses would be recommended - and any dogs to be avoided? Aside from eBay and KEH - any recommendations on where to buy a setup? TIA - MCC = To read is to travel without all the hassles of luggage. ---Emilio Salgari (1863-1911) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html
FS: EX+ SMC-FA 28-105mm f/4-5.6 power zoom lens, hard case
FS: a KEH EX+ condition (actually purchased from KEH) Pentax SMC-FA 28-105mm f/4-5.6 power zoom lens. It's sturdy, solid, and looks new. A few specks visible between the elements, but glass is crystal clear. I'll include the correct Pentax lens hood for this lens (large, round, and shallow rubber hood) and a generic brand hard case that fits this lens and protects it well. $115, with free shipping in the continental U.S. http://homepage.mac.com/wilensky/eBay/Powerzoom_kit.jpg http://homepage.mac.com/wilensky/eBay/Powerzoom_front.jpg http://homepage.mac.com/wilensky/eBay/Powerzoom_rear.jpg http://homepage.mac.com/wilensky/eBay/Powerzoom_top.jpg Joe -- Joe Wilensky Staff Writer Communication and Marketing Services 1150 Comstock Hall Cornell University Ithaca, NY 14853-2601 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: 607-255-1575 fax: 607-255-9873
FS: Pentax MX winder with remote modification, EX+
For sale: Pentax MX winder with original box, manual, receipts. This winder wasn't mine originally, but the original owner sent it in to Pentax for the remote modification that was mentioned recently on the list and kept all the paperwork. The socket (the standard earphone jack type) is at the top of the winder, nearly opposite the shutter release. The modification cost $25 at the time (1980). I'll include an adapter that converts a standard cable release to the 1/8 earphone jack type connecter the winder needs. This winder didn't get much use, as it looks to be in nearly mint condition. No marks or signs of wear except for a slight circle mark around the tripod socket at the bottom. Even the delicate battery cover hasn't been abused, cross-threaded, or marked in any way. It operates beautifully. This is the MX winder with the newer on/off switch, I believe, since it has the little raised tab at the off position (between S and C), whereas I think earlier examples just had a smooth wheel. $75 including shipping in the continental U.S. Joe -- Joe Wilensky Staff Writer Communication and Marketing Services 1150 Comstock Hall Cornell University Ithaca, NY 14853-2601 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: 607-255-1575 fax: 607-255-9873
Re: Takumar 135mm f2.5 K mount lens - identifying
Last week there was some talk about how to identify this cheap-but-cheerful lens. The issue is making sure to pay UNDER US$75 for this lens versus the much higher priced, high performing K-mount 135mm f2.5 with the 58mm front diameter. Here are some recent auctions from ebay: (forgive me if I gore anybody's Ox) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2983676025 described as a Pentax-M 135mm f2.5...but see writing at front http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2983711784 described as Asahi Pentax 135mm f2.5...see excellent pictures (you can clearly see Takumar (bayonet) inscribed around the front rim multi-colored f-stop markings in the 2nd picture) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2984988454 described as Pentax K 135mm f2.5 ...but see pictures (last shot includes the 52 mm front filter) I'm surprised that folks are paying over $50 for this lens because it isn't that good. It's not labled Pentax because it doesn't have the SMC anti-reflective coatings on the glass. It is visibly inferior to the Pentax M-135mm f3.5 which is plentiful and cheap. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2983729213 pictures show SMC Pentax-M 1:3.5 135mm around inner lip So don't waste your money chasing the non-SMC Takumar (bayonet) Regards, Bob S.
Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ
kostas; There are several flash brackets by numerous manufacturers that are similar to the Hot shoe Grip set up and not so large as the Stroboframes. to use any of them with ANY Pentax flash and ANY pentax body get the following three items (I only link to BH because it's convenient, not because they are the only source): Off camera shoe adapter F http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlistA=detailsQ=sku=112755is=REG Hot shoe adapter Fg http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlistA=detailsQ=sku=112754is=REG or Hot shoe adapter F http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlistA=detailsQ=sku=41177is=REG F5P extension cord http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlistA=detailsQ=sku=41049is=REG Limitations are on the flash or body (ttl flash on manual body = manual flash; manual flash on ttl body = manual flash, etc.) Any analog TTL flash will work in TTL mode with any TTL body. Any digital TTL flash will work in TTL mode with any TTL body. By digital I'm referring to the flash/TTL type not the media) example: my LX (Analog body) worked in TTL mode with an AF280T (analog flash) and TTL mode with the AF360FGZ (digital flash). My ist-D (digital body as far as flash/ttl is concerned; I'm not referring to media) works in TTL mode with an AF280T (analog flash) and TTL mode with the AF360FGZ (digital flash). I used all theses combinations with the three accessories listed above. Of course manual and auto-flash would work with any body and any flash (automatic: flash has to have this ability). HTH Christian - Original Message - From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 12:36 PM Subject: Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ On Fri, 6 Feb 2004, mike wilson wrote: Can't you use the HSG with one of the 5-series hotshoe whatsits and a 5-P cable? Before posting (or buying for that matter!) I downloaded the HSG manual from Pentax USA and it says that Dedicated/TTL flash is not possible with the 240FT or the 400FTZ. As they both have a 5P socket, I doubt that's the way to do it. And that's why I was hoping someone in the list might know. Thanks for the suggestion, Kostas
Re: FS Friday: Last call on this gear
Oops ... That's the first time in three years that I've sent a response to the list by accident when I meant to send it to one person directly ... just once in three years isn't bad, I suppose ... Joe
Re: North Americans
How about Arizona? Lots of us already go there for the winter, so it's already familiar. Okay Maybe in return, we'll give you Quebec. They are rather a recalcitrant lot, but they make great cheese. WW No thanks, I don't speak French. How about either BC or Nova Scotia? Bill
Re: FS Friday: Last call on this gear
Oops ... That's the first time in three years that I've sent a response to the list by accident when I meant to send it to one person directly ... just once in three years isn't bad, I suppose ... It's better than my average, Joe - I'm probably good for one misplaced missive per year - g. Fred
200 speed slide films
Hey Folks, Anyone on the list use 200 speed slide films (sensia 200, Elitechrome 200, Agfa 200)? I'd like to know how they rate in terms of grain and scan-ability? Thanks, Mark
Re: 6 x 7 Questions
Most people shoot the 67 with the mirror lock-up whenever possible. Even so, shutter bounce is a real problem. See http://luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/pentax67ii.shtml (which is, on the whole, a *very* favorable review of the 67) for discussion and examples of the effect. All but the earliest ones have the mirror lock-up capability. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
A recent winter walk photos
I took these in December, but there has been snow on the ground here ever since, so it looks pretty much the same. This is the Mulholland Wildflower Preserve in Ithaca, N.Y., though the wildflowers are nowhere to be seen this time of year! Photos were taken with a Super Program and a recently aquired SMC-A 24-50mm f/4 lens. Click on the slide show icon to see the larger images. http://homepage.mac.com/wilensky/PhotoAlbum12.html Any feedback on either the photos or the .mac webpage architecture would be appreciated. Joe -- Joe Wilensky Staff Writer Communication and Marketing Services 1150 Comstock Hall Cornell University Ithaca, NY 14853-2601 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: 607-255-1575 fax: 607-255-9873
More wedding shots
Hi! Right out of the oven g... The wedding violinist. This guy was remarkable. But then it became apparent he was originally from Moscow g... This is roughly half of the original frame with the rest being unnecessary surroundings g. It has been significantly edited... I wonder whether this one is any better than previous two g. Please shoot at will and shoot to kill g. Technically it is 50 mm lens but with slow shutter speed to capture the motion... http://boris.isra-shop.com/local/50/violinist.jpg Thanks. Boris
Re: Takumar 135mm f2.5 K mount lens - identifying
I agree that over $50 is too much for the much maligned Takumar (Bayonet) 135/2.5. However it was my go-to portrait lens as long as I wasn't shooting into the sun. It's not as soft as some people will make you think I paid $25 for mine in perfect condition and would be willing to spend $35 on another one in similar condition. You should have said Don't waste more than $50 on this lens. People who mis-represent their auctions anger me. Fools who pay too much for a any item can only blame themselves for not paying attention to the details. Christian - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 1:06 PM Subject: Re: Takumar 135mm f2.5 K mount lens - identifying Last week there was some talk about how to identify this cheap-but-cheerful lens. The issue is making sure to pay UNDER US$75 for this lens versus the much higher priced, high performing K-mount 135mm f2.5 with the 58mm front diameter. Here are some recent auctions from ebay: (forgive me if I gore anybody's Ox) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2983676025 described as a Pentax-M 135mm f2.5...but see writing at front http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2983711784 described as Asahi Pentax 135mm f2.5...see excellent pictures (you can clearly see Takumar (bayonet) inscribed around the front rim multi-colored f-stop markings in the 2nd picture) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2984988454 described as Pentax K 135mm f2.5 ...but see pictures (last shot includes the 52 mm front filter) I'm surprised that folks are paying over $50 for this lens because it isn't that good. It's not labled Pentax because it doesn't have the SMC anti-reflective coatings on the glass. It is visibly inferior to the Pentax M-135mm f3.5 which is plentiful and cheap. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2983729213 pictures show SMC Pentax-M 1:3.5 135mm around inner lip So don't waste your money chasing the non-SMC Takumar (bayonet) Regards, Bob S.
RE: More wedding shots
Best of the bunch IMO. tv -Original Message- From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 2:14 PM To: PDML Subject: More wedding shots Hi! Right out of the oven g... The wedding violinist. This guy was remarkable. But then it became apparent he was originally from Moscow g... This is roughly half of the original frame with the rest being unnecessary surroundings g. It has been significantly edited... I wonder whether this one is any better than previous two g. Please shoot at will and shoot to kill g. Technically it is 50 mm lens but with slow shutter speed to capture the motion... http://boris.isra-shop.com/local/50/violinist.jpg Thanks. Boris
Re: new OT topic - POlaroid emulsion transfer
Hi, Ann Sanfedele wrote: IF anyone knows a simple how to for this or any comments on how yukky it might be to do (chemically speaking, health wise,etc.) I'd appreciate hearing off list from you. It's not hazardous, just _extremely_ fiddly. A very high failure rate, so I would be cautious with unreplaceables. http://www.art-e-zine.co.uk/imageemul_nn4.html http://www.aei.ca/~bobm/polaroid.htm Also, I have about 150 polaroids from over 10 years ago stored away - they are emitting a nasty odor when I open the box...with no deterioration of image. What sort of odour? Vinegary? Sulphury? Sweaty feet? 8-) mike
Re: Cool, Colorful Bike Shot
And folks, let's not fool ourselves. The treasured photographs of the human race are of kids playing soccer and not Weston's moonlight vistas. Quite. And in that arena, there's a case to be made that the prevalence of digital cameras could actually help fight off the spread of mediocrity. As those of us who have worked in the photo-finishing trade point out, the average consumer film print is price-driven; it goes through a cheap automated printing machine (usually with very agressive cropping to take care of possible positioning errors) that is set up and operated by some employee being paid as little as the store can get away with. It has always been possible, with sufficient dedication, to do it yourself; there were home colour film processors even before the days of accurate- to-less-than-a-degree temperature-controlled waterbaths. But suddenly, with the spread of digital cameras, this level of control is available to just about anyone with a home computer. And most of the cheap-and-cheerful print manipulation packages offer far more control than even a well-operated auto-printer (which has little more than white balance). Even if all that is done is red-eye removal and a bit of cropping that's an improvement over the prints from the one-hour lab. But there's a lot more than that being done - or at least I'd assume so, given the competition in the low-cost image manipulation software field. People who wouldn't pay an extra 5c for a better print will happily sit in front of their computer for an hour or two, tweaking the image. Does an ink-jet print from a consumer digital camera compare with the best chemical print from a large-format negative? Of course not. But by now the quality level compares very favourably with anything that comes out of a typical home darkroom. And while that's settling for good enough - that's what we all do, all the time. If we didn't then no-one would use 35mm roll film, or print on regular photo paper.
Re: GFM plans
Oh yeah? Well, I may bring just a lens and some charcoal pencils. Steve the Primitivist I'm seriously thinking of bringing just my 645, 3 lenses and a couple of bricks of black white film. On a serious note, don't you need a 35 mm camera for the contest? Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ
Hi, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Fri, 6 Feb 2004, mike wilson wrote: Can't you use the HSG with one of the 5-series hotshoe whatsits and a 5-P cable? Before posting (or buying for that matter!) I downloaded the HSG manual from Pentax USA and it says that Dedicated/TTL flash is not possible with the 240FT or the 400FTZ. As they both have a 5P socket, I doubt that's the way to do it. And that's why I was hoping someone in the list might know. Not directly mounted on the HSG, no. But I think there is a 5-series hotshoe connector that is dead (no connections) for use on studio lighting stands. (Come to think of it, any proprietary connector would work - Jessops?) That on the HSG, flash on the connector, cable from hotshoe to flash and PTOOOF! mike
RE: GFM plans
We're pros and artists. Contests are beneath us. Unless there's a really big prize. tv -Original Message- From: Steve Desjardins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 2:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: GFM plans Oh yeah? Well, I may bring just a lens and some charcoal pencils. Steve the Primitivist I'm seriously thinking of bringing just my 645, 3 lenses and a couple of bricks of black white film. On a serious note, don't you need a 35 mm camera for the contest? Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ
Hi, Christian wrote: example: my LX (Analog body) worked in TTL mode with an AF280T (analog flash) and TTL mode with the AF360FGZ (digital flash). My ist-D (digital body as far as flash/ttl is concerned; I'm not referring to media) works in TTL mode with an AF280T (analog flash) and TTL mode with the AF360FGZ (digital flash). But I understand that FTZ designated flashes will not work in TTL with mechanical bodies. Or am I wrong? mike
Re: 6 x 7 Questions
Hello Mark, As I stated, this is on long lenses. His example is on a 300 with 1.4 converter. Most people use shorter lenses on the 67 and don't see this problem. In fact, this is somewhat of an issue with any camera. The longer the focal length, the more shutter bounce is an issue. It is a big shutter, it is a loud shutter, it is not that bouncy. Talk to people who shoot the more normal lengths to see what they say. I personally never felt like the 67 was the type of system for long focal lengths anyway. My 300 was only lightly used - with it, I didn't see the problem that he shows. Of course, I never shot it with a 1.4 either. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, February 6, 2004, 10:56:21 AM, you wrote: MR Most people shoot the 67 with the mirror lock-up whenever possible. Even MR so, shutter bounce is a real problem. See MR http://luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/pentax67ii.shtml (which MR is, on the whole, a *very* favorable review of the 67) for discussion MR and examples of the effect. MR All but the earliest ones have the mirror lock-up capability.
Re: 200 speed slide films
Hi, Mark Dalal wrote: Hey Folks, Anyone on the list use 200 speed slide films (sensia 200, Elitechrome 200, Agfa 200)? I'd like to know how they rate in terms of grain and scan-ability? I'm just working my way through some Konica 200. It scans fine (!) and, for the purpose of showing on a monitor, is as good as any other. Grain may be slightly more noticeable if you intend projecting. mike
Re: GFM plans
On a serious note, don't you need a 35 mm camera for the contest? Yes, but some of us don't enter the contest. Bill
Re: More wedding shots
- Original Message - From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Best of the bunch IMO. tv What he said. Christian
Re: More wedding shots
Hello Boris, I like this the best of the three. It would be nice to see what you cropped out - sometimes the surroundings can add a bit. I don't feel that the slow shutter caught enough movement to really make me see it in the shot - just looks a bit like a soft focus type shot. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, February 6, 2004, 11:14:21 AM, you wrote: BL Hi! BL Right out of the oven g... The wedding violinist. This guy was BL remarkable. But then it became apparent he was originally from Moscow BL g... BL This is roughly half of the original frame with the rest being BL unnecessary surroundings g. It has been significantly edited... BL I wonder whether this one is any better than previous two g. Please BL shoot at will and shoot to kill g. BL Technically it is 50 mm lens but with slow shutter speed to capture BL the motion... BL http://boris.isra-shop.com/local/50/violinist.jpg BL Thanks. BL Boris
Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ
define mechanical bodies My LX and oh-I-forgot-about-it-in-my-previous-post SuperProgram worked in TTL mode with the AF360FGZ. Christian - Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 2:48 PM Subject: Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ Hi, Christian wrote: example: my LX (Analog body) worked in TTL mode with an AF280T (analog flash) and TTL mode with the AF360FGZ (digital flash). My ist-D (digital body as far as flash/ttl is concerned; I'm not referring to media) works in TTL mode with an AF280T (analog flash) and TTL mode with the AF360FGZ (digital flash). But I understand that FTZ designated flashes will not work in TTL with mechanical bodies. Or am I wrong? mike
Re: GFM plans
- Original Message - We're pros and artists. Contests are beneath us. Unless there's a really big prize. tv prizes are fine, but what I really want is my ego stroked and acceptance of my work by my peers! ;-) Christian
Re: 6 x 7 Questions
1/30 - 1/60 hand-held with a 105mmno prob. Norm Bruce Dayton wrote: Hello Mark, Talk to people who shoot the more normal lengths to see what they say.
Re: More wedding shots
Yep, nice shot Boris! tan. - Original Message - From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 5:17 AM Subject: RE: More wedding shots Best of the bunch IMO. tv -Original Message- From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 2:14 PM To: PDML Subject: More wedding shots Hi! Right out of the oven g... The wedding violinist. This guy was remarkable. But then it became apparent he was originally from Moscow g... This is roughly half of the original frame with the rest being unnecessary surroundings g. It has been significantly edited... I wonder whether this one is any better than previous two g. Please shoot at will and shoot to kill g. Technically it is 50 mm lens but with slow shutter speed to capture the motion... http://boris.isra-shop.com/local/50/violinist.jpg Thanks. Boris
Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ
Anything previous to the SF series. Where flash is triggered mechanically. Christian wrote: define mechanical bodies My LX and oh-I-forgot-about-it-in-my-previous-post SuperProgram worked in TTL mode with the AF360FGZ. Christian - Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 2:48 PM Subject: Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ Hi, Christian wrote: example: my LX (Analog body) worked in TTL mode with an AF280T (analog flash) and TTL mode with the AF360FGZ (digital flash). My ist-D (digital body as far as flash/ttl is concerned; I'm not referring to media) works in TTL mode with an AF280T (analog flash) and TTL mode with the AF360FGZ (digital flash). But I understand that FTZ designated flashes will not work in TTL with mechanical bodies. Or am I wrong? mike
Re: GFM plans
What if the judges gave you one of the dishonorable mentions? Bill - Original Message - From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 3:02 PM Subject: Re: GFM plans - Original Message - We're pros and artists. Contests are beneath us. Unless there's a really big prize. tv prizes are fine, but what I really want is my ego stroked and acceptance of my work by my peers! ;-) Christian
Re: 200 speed slide films
Mark Dalal escribió: Hey Folks, Anyone on the list use 200 speed slide films (sensia 200, Elitechrome 200, Agfa 200)? I'd like to know how they rate in terms of grain and scan-ability? I have used Elitechrome 200 several times. It's got fine grain, scans well, but its colour balance is slightly warm, or noticeably warm if you compare it to Fuji Sensia or Provia. It isn't necessarily a bad thing, if you want warm colour. Carlos Royo - Zaragoza (Aragon), Spain The struggle of people against power is the struggle of memory against forgetting Milan Kundera (La lucha del pueblo contra el poder es la lucha de la memoria contra el olvido)
Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ
OK, now I see my error. I didn't know the FGZ flashes were different than the FTZ flashes. I don't have experience with the later. sorry about that. Christian - Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 3:06 PM Subject: Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ Anything previous to the SF series. Where flash is triggered mechanically. Christian wrote: define mechanical bodies My LX and oh-I-forgot-about-it-in-my-previous-post SuperProgram worked in TTL mode with the AF360FGZ. Christian - Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 2:48 PM But I understand that FTZ designated flashes will not work in TTL with mechanical bodies. Or am I wrong? mike
February alternative
Now that any interested parties have seen the PUG, including the photo I submitted, I thought I'd share the other photo I considered submitting for the Feb PUG Wet theme. http://members.aol.com/greenfalc1/blues.jpg Optio 550 image; slightly cropped. (And then resized, of course.) ERN
Re: 6 x 7 Questions
Can I just add my vote for the 55mm f/4 - this is an awesome lens that is razor sharp and s lovely contrasty. If it was a 35mm system lens I am sure it would be a Limited. I have the late model with the writing outside the barrel and I can't see how it could be bettered. In the wideangle department I also have a late 75mm f/4.5 and that is also a good lens, though it can be a little harder to focus as it seems fairly dim through the finder. It also has an annoyingly large 82mm filter size against the 55's more modest 77mm. If you are going to use this for landscapes, trust me, one look at those 6x7 chromes and every time you take a picture with the *istD a little voice in your head will say I wish I had taken it on the big camera :-) It really does make everything else feel like a 'snapshot'. Chris
Interesting *istD deal...
Check this out... (all prices AUD)... http://svc003.bne012i.server-web.com/catalogue/dirtcheap/cache/header-770public__0-0.html?cache=no See the first and third kits? The body only is AUD$2516.80, and the body with two lenses (DG 18-50 f3.5-5.6 and DG 55-200 f4-5.6) is also AUD$2516.80! THEN smack in the middle, the body with FA (hehe!) 18-35mm is and extra $350 at AUD$2860.00!! The lenses can be found here: http://www.sigma-imaging-uk.com/a_pages/lenses.htm I phoned them and asked if this was correct, they said that it most definitely was as the manufacturers are basically throwing the Sigma lenses in for free. I phoned CR Kennedy (Australian wholesale importers of both Sigma and Pentax). Who were very annoyed at Dirt Cheap Cameras about this, but said that yes, it was true. He also claimed that these two lenses have only just been released and are particularly nice lenses and quoted that the 18-50 DG (f3.5-5.6) would be around au$550.00 on its own! Also, he said that CR Kennedy were indeed the supplier of these lenses to Dirt Cheap Cameras, and that they weren't Grey Market etc... They can offer two just released Sigma lenses for free, and then charge $350 for one (lower range) Pentax lens?!?! What gives with that? Another interesting thing is that Dirt Cheap Cameras don't offer the lenses for sale on their website alone... I was almost tempted to buy the deal on the spot and sell the lenses off on Ebay! They are listed on the Sigma UK website as £99.00 and £129.00 which is a total of around AUD$550.00 Wonder how much they'd auction for? I also think that this is a very weird way to do business in regards to Dirt Cheap Cameras - I mean really, they are doing themselves out of money by advertising that as who in their right mind would ever buy the body on its own when you could buy it with two lenses for the same price?!? I think that they should add at least $100 or SOMETHING to their price for the kit with the lenses, as automatically it made me think that they were total crap whilst the Sigma website and the wholesaler were singing their praises. Or better still, they could drop the *istD body only by $100! Does anyone have any experience with these two lenses? I know that the DG means that they were designed especially for digital use etc. but that's about where my knowledge ends. They are both however, slow - although would maybe get me through until the DA 16-45 is readily available. On an aside, it looks like I should be having an *ist D (with Battery Grip, cable release and 2 x 512mb cards!) delivered by Thursday, can't say anything more until it is in my hot little hands though! Oh, and one more thing - the guy at CR Kennedy, when I spoke to him and (rather boldly, hehe!) asked if there would be any announcements at PMA - he said the following: only for digital point and shoots, as they are sticking with the *istD for now but they are trying to combat the EOS 300D (Rebel) and the Nikon D70, which is why they've been sweetening the deal by offering the Sigma lenses in a kit for next to nothing (it's just that the retailers were supposed to adjust it so that the body only price was lower too!), ALTHOUGH the *istD IS aimed at PROFESSIONAL users whereas the Rebel and D70 are not. (his words, not mine!) THEN, he went on to say that they have just released an *istD kit with a Sigma lens and EF500st flash gun that will also sell for around the same RRP as the kit with the two Sigma lenses. (I forgot to ask which lens). AND then They have now sold out of the MZ-S and won't be stocking them anymore!! When I asked him if they'd stopped making them he said that as far as he knows, they are still being manufactured but will no longer be available for sale in Australia. He actually said that they had been so cheap toward the end that he'd wanted to buy one for himself but they'd sold out too quickly! I was very interested by this as I have not noticed the price drop at a retail level for the MZ-S anywhere in Australia. Last I recall, they were still around the AUD$1800 mark. It is a shame that if they were dropped in price in recent months, it seemed to be overlooked due to all of the *istD hype. I would have loved to purchase one if it had been just that bit cheaper than AUD$1800 and I know alot of diehard MZ-S fans that would probably have been interested too! He also said that the *ist (film) is being plugged greatly now, and they are really selling it in place of the MZ-S. Ryan, btw, the CR Kennedy guy HIGHLY recommended www.centre.net.au - he said that they were really lovely people and that they really care for their customers. Even though they are a little more expensive at times, they are worth it. And from a wholesaler's point of view, CR Kennedy LOVES to deal with them... Ok, gutta get to a screaming baby and put my face on - I am meeting Bob Rapp this morning! lol. Hope there are some interesting titbits for you all amongst what I have said... tan.
Re: OT: North Americans
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Lasse Karlsson Subject: Re: OT: North Americans From: Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Since it's our language I would think that we can call Indians anything we want to as long as no offense is intended, and if it is there's really nothing that can be done about it anyway. I think the above is a very interesting statement. It's funny and it is amusing. Since the Indians are comfortable enough with the term to use it in the names of both their political organizations and their universities, just what is your problem, Lasse? 1). I don't have the funds to buy an D*ist... 2) Nor the second hand studio lights that I was offered locally the other day... 3) I haven't got (well never mind) 4) Got another flat tyre on my bike today, and streets are in a snowy, icy mess... 5) I don't have the adapters and cords to get my 500ftz off the Mz5, nor a second flash for the same purpose... As for my previous post, you misinterpreted it. I have no problem whatsoever with calling Indians Indians. However, the poster said we can call Indians a n y t h i n g since it's o u r language, and if there is offense taken or intended there is nothing that can be done about it anyway. What I found very interesting is 1) who the we in our language are; 2) which language is specifically referred to; 3) who owns this language; 4) why any ownership of any language would give any owner of it the right to call any people or anybody just anything he/she - or we - wish, 5) that the poster claims that if offense is caused, nothing can be done about it anyway. Through history many peoples of the world have been called many different names. Most readers can easily come up with lists of earlier names of peoples in their part of the world, that now will need a footnoted explanation to avoid misunderstanding as to the writer's intentions. Lasse
Re: Digital cameras - must have feature set
and tell that smelly old guy on the right that his beer belly is poking through the strained buttons on his shirt and could he please move his tie to cover it up Couldn't be me, I refuse to wear a tie. Bill
Re: FS Friday: Last call on this gear
I remember the going prices for mint Z-1p were like CA$4xx recently on eBay. I thought they would worth a little more as well, but obviously the digital thing kills many film products. Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan I already have a PZ-1p, or I'd be quite interested. Have there really been no takers so far at that price? I briefly put my PZ-1p (EX+) plus grip strap up for sale for $425 when I was considering switching to the MZ-S. I had no takers, and eventually decided I'd rather keep the PZ-1p anyway. I thought it was a good deal, as KEH has been selling PZ-1p's in EX and EX+ condition for $450-$485 or so. But is even the PZ-1p in so little demand on the list that prices have fallen this much? BTW, do you know why KEH consistently sells Z-1p cameras for significantly cheaper than PZ-1p cameras, even in the same condition? They are the exact same camera model, correct? Joe _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: GFM plans
On 6/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: On a serious note, don't you need a 35 mm camera for the contest? Yes, but some of us don't enter the contest. Well I for one am not travelling thousands of miles to not enter the NPW contest and not be told that my entry of 'BCU Leaf' is a bag of shite! After all I'm British -I can take it! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: February alternative
On 6/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Now that any interested parties have seen the PUG, including the photo I submitted, I thought I'd share the other photo I considered submitting for the Feb PUG Wet theme. http://members.aol.com/greenfalc1/blues.jpg Optio 550 image; slightly cropped. (And then resized, of course.) Lovely shot Eleanor. Gimme a bit more chin and turn it into mono. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ
That's what I'm trying to find out myself 8-) No apology needed. Christian wrote: OK, now I see my error. I didn't know the FGZ flashes were different than the FTZ flashes. I don't have experience with the later. sorry about that. Christian - Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 3:06 PM Subject: Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ Anything previous to the SF series. Where flash is triggered mechanically. Christian wrote: define mechanical bodies My LX and oh-I-forgot-about-it-in-my-previous-post SuperProgram worked in TTL mode with the AF360FGZ. Christian - Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 2:48 PM But I understand that FTZ designated flashes will not work in TTL with mechanical bodies. Or am I wrong? mike
