Re: PAW - not one but two!

[David Mann]

On Sep 12, 2004, at 5:55 AM, Peter J. Alling wrote:
I'd like to say right now that while I like both of these photo's I 
had no hand in creating them.
Sure you didn't.

Thanks for the comments, guys.  I printed the Kaikoura one today - it 
came out very nicely.  I had to be careful with the black levels as I 
want to see detail in the rocks, but I also want to keep the 
highlighted look of the lump of rock in the foreground.

The wave near the centre almost annoys me but it's one of those little 
details that make me look closer.  I like photos that do that.

I really need to get out and photograph more.
Cheers,
- Dave
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/

Re: Real Men's Camera

[David Mann]

On Sep 12, 2004, at 1:50 PM, Caveman wrote:
http://www.pbase.com/equipment/image/33657865
Rumours have it that Pentax is using that as an inspiration for their 
LF digital.
That thing looks about the same weight as a Mamiya RB67.
Cheers,
- Dave
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/

Re: Boxes for batteries

[David Mann]

On Sep 12, 2004, at 5:47 AM, mike wilson wrote:
Buy some Kodachrome, send it away for processing and it comes back 
(mounted slides) in a nice box with two compartments.  Each side holds 
four AA cells.
Reminds me of another little trick for the medium format shooters.
The cylindrical plastic "M&Ms mini" containers make excellent 120 
canisters.

They only cost a dollar and they come with free chocolate :)
Cheers,
- Dave (I'd rather have a chocolate fix than a MF DSLR)
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/

Re: An MX "Bargain"

[bransky]

>From: Caveman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>
>It's an entire art and science to produce a photo like that
>
>Fred wrote:
>> Howzabowt "a Asahi Pentax Mx works well" for "US 
$400.00 (Reserve
>> not met)" from an eBay seller with a rating of "0" 
("Member since
>> Sep-09-04")?

Amazing...but at least a "photo" comes with the ad.  

I recall that recently there was an eBay listing for something 
like "Pentax Camera Works Good", $300 initial bid, no 
photo, and no description of the camera whatsoever (not 
even the model or type of camera!)...and once again, a 
seller with a "0" rating.

I don't think it sold at the asking price.

Aaron Bransky

Re: Friday Funny Foto

[Shel Belinkoff]

Yeah, but I figured if he drank some more maybe he'd blow the freakin'
truck to smithereens, and I'd get a GREAT pic which would be my big break
into the photojournalism field and an invitation to join Magnum.

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 9/11/2004 6:57:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Friday Funny Foto
>
> On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 14:48:11 -0700, Shel Belinkoff
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Heck, I offered encouragement, even a few beers.
>
> My guess is that he may have already had a few of those before you got
> there... 
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> "It's about time we started to take photography seriously and treat it
> as a hobby." -Eliott Erwitt

Re: Hi from Stan Halpin

[Juan Buhler]

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:16:35 -0400, frank theriault
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, Stan certainly is a nice guy!!
> 
> Say hi to him for me if you see this post in time.  Sounds like you
> guys had a great time.

I'm sure they will. One of my best memories is during a trip to Italy
in 2001, we stopped briefly in Napoli and met Gianfranco and friends.
He's a great host!

Hi Gianfranco!

j

-- 
Juan Buhler
http://www.jbuhler.com

RE: istD in style

[Shel Belinkoff]

Hey Juan ...

Looks great! Those old Spotmatic straps are super.  I use 'em whenever I
can, even on the Leicas.

Shel 

> [Original Message]
> From: Juan Buhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> I figured, if I'm going to go digital, better do it in style. So I
> turned my *istD into a Special Edition Black Tape Leather Strap istD:
>
> http://flickr.com/photo.gne?id=405355
> http://flickr.com/photo.gne?id=405353
>
> The finish of the camera mathches the black tape. The strap is a
> Spotmatic leather strap, perfect for wrapping around the wrist. The
> leather feels way better than the plasticky logo-filled strap provided
> with the camera.
>
> Maybe now I'll even use the camera to take some pictures. Do you guys
> think using a Leica has affected me too much? :)

Hi from Stan Halpin

[Gianfranco Irlanda]

Hi everybody!

Stan wishes to say hello to you all.
He arrived yesterday morning from Missouri via Chicago and
Munich, quite a series of flights, in my opinion; we met at the
airport and immediately headed to his hotel. After a couple of
hours we met again, had lunch (pizza, what else? :-) and then
started discovering the heart of Naples. My girfriend joined us
after work and we went on strolling around until dark, then we
had dinner and planned a visit to Pompei, which took place
today.
Stan is a very nice guy, as many of you already know, and I will
be forever glad to him because he had the not very pleasant
mission to bring to me my new big toy, a 67II, a terrific but
nevertheless heavy and big camera (at least to carry around
having a lot of luggage already.)
We both had our *ist Ds, Stan's one almost always equipped with
those wonderful black Limited 43 and 77... (sigh...) He already
filled and unloaded a 512mb CF card, if not two.
There was quite a bit of haze this morning, but Pompei shone
from the top of its 20 centuries. Too bad the sun shone a lot
too, and in the large streets of the ancient city there is not
enough shade... At least, Stan wore a hat, and was not too worn
out by the long walk.
Then, after 2:30 p.m., we realized we had to eat (and drink!)
something and it was getting too late to find a nice restaurant
in a fair time. There indeed was one where we parked the car,
but the behaviour of the personnel made the decision for us, so,
back on the road, I made a try to reach a restaurant I know in
my town (halfway between Pompei and Naples). We got there after
3:15 p.m. but luckily they welcomed us warmly and so we spent a
nice couple of hours (yes, 2 hours...) with a panoramic view and
very good white wine.

Well, that's all for now. I'm a bit tired and bedtime is
approaching. More to follow.

Ciao,

Gianfranco


=
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Re: istD in style

[John Forbes]

If it were Cotty, surely the answer would be 2. ;-)
John
On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 15:15:57 -0400, Peter J. Alling  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Lets make it a survey, I vote for 3, hell if it were Cotty, I'd vote for  
3 twice.

Cotty wrote:
On 11/9/04, Juan Buhler, discombobulated, unleashed:

I figured, if I'm going to go digital, better do it in style. So I
turned my *istD into a Special Edition Black Tape Leather Strap istD:
http://flickr.com/photo.gne?id=405355
http://flickr.com/photo.gne?id=405353
The finish of the camera mathches the black tape. The strap is a
Spotmatic leather strap, perfect for wrapping around the wrist. The
leather feels way better than the plasticky logo-filled strap provided
with the camera.
Maybe now I'll even use the camera to take some pictures. Do you guys
think using a Leica has affected me too much? :)
When I see a camera that has the name blanked off, there can only be one
of the following reason's why:
1)  The camera is being used in a shot on film/tv/advertising and the
name is not needed.
2)  The owner is ashamed of the camera.
3)  The owner is mad as a March hare.
And which one would you be Juan?  ;-)

Cheers,
 Cotty
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||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps
_




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Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/

Re: AF360fgz AF assist

[Leon Altoff]

On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 00:56:16 +1000, Ryan Lee wrote:

>Anyone know if it's possible to turn off that red AF assist light? Some
>scenarios it gets a bit distracting to the subject.

Hi Ryan,

Try manual focus. Or some black tape over the front of the flash.  It
doesn't come on in wireless mode either.


 Leon

http://www.bluering.org.au
http://www.bluering.org.au/leon

RE: Pentax into the future

[Mark Stringer]

Sometimes I shortcut without commas, but in the case of the Rollei I put a piece of 
duct tape over part of the lens to get to 645.  You should try it, very serious 
effects on the images  :)  (my first email smiley face, a milestone in my life)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 10:07 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Pentax into the future


Mark Stringer said, among many other things:
>  I have a PZ1p
MESuper Zx5n 67II Rolleiflex 645 and I've shot only the istD almost 
exclusively.  ERNReed
caught me in San Antonio using the Rolleiflex. ...

The Rolleiflex is a 645, Mark? Now I really wish I'd taken a closer look at it. 
Mine is a 6x6 ...

ERN

Re: istD in style

[Cotty]

On 11/9/04, Peter J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Lets make it a survey, I vote for 3, hell if it were Cotty, I'd vote for 
>3 twice.

Allingator, you better believe it.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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RE: DA 16-45 test images

[Shel Belinkoff]

Hi Paul 

>From what I see on your site, I'm not overly impressed with the lens.  What
may make a better comparison (at least for me, not that I'm asking that you
do it) is to make comparisons with similar focal length primes and put them
up side by side.

Shel 

> From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> I shot a few things around my house and yard today to see how the DA 
> 16-45 performs. I'm very pleased. I shot at 20, 31 and 45 mm. The 20mm 
> shot (of doors) is at f4.5. I extracted a small section from the center 
> of this shot and posted it as well. It's at 100%. The shot of the tree 
> is 31mm at f11. The shot of the flower is 45mm at f5.6. Although it's 
> hard to judge results on the web, the tight crop of the near wide-open, 
> wide angle shot provides some useful information. The shots are here: 
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder.tcl?folder_id=429139

512 MB CF interesting discount for canucks

[Caveman]

check the sandisk 512 at futureshop

Re: PESO: 9/11/04

[Paul Stenquist]

Nice shot. I like the framing, the composition, and the sentiment.
Paul
(former New Yorker and Jersey resident)
On Sep 11, 2004, at 2:27 PM, Daniel Matyola wrote:
This is a shot I grabbed with my Optio s this morning, at the
dedication of a new 9/11 Memorial in my hometown of Somerville,
NJ, USA:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2687999
Somerville is an hour west of Manhattan, and many locals work in
New York Ciy.  The memorial was placed by Somerset County, on the
court house square, in memory of the 39 county residents who died
in the World Trade Center twin towers that were destroyed by
terrorists three years ago.  The steel beam on the left side of
the clock tower is from the debris at ground zero.
Dan M

Sent via the KillerWebMail system at stanleypmlaw.com

Re: istD in style

[Juan Buhler]

5) I like it that way?

I already gave my money to Pentax--Idon't need a big white logo on top
of my camera.

I'm only ashamed of the pictures it's going to take, btw.

j


On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 15:15:57 -0400, Peter J. Alling
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Lets make it a survey, I vote for 3, hell if it were Cotty, I'd vote for
> 3 twice.
> 
> 
> 
> Cotty wrote:
> 
> >On 11/9/04, Juan Buhler, discombobulated, unleashed:
> >
> >
> >
> >>I figured, if I'm going to go digital, better do it in style. So I
> >>turned my *istD into a Special Edition Black Tape Leather Strap istD:
> >>
> >>http://flickr.com/photo.gne?id=405355
> >>http://flickr.com/photo.gne?id=405353
> >>
> >>The finish of the camera mathches the black tape. The strap is a
> >>Spotmatic leather strap, perfect for wrapping around the wrist. The
> >>leather feels way better than the plasticky logo-filled strap provided
> >>with the camera.
> >>
> >>Maybe now I'll even use the camera to take some pictures. Do you guys
> >>think using a Leica has affected me too much? :)
> >>
> >>
> >
> >When I see a camera that has the name blanked off, there can only be one
> >of the following reason's why:
> >
> >1)  The camera is being used in a shot on film/tv/advertising and the
> >name is not needed.
> >
> >2)  The owner is ashamed of the camera.
> >
> >3)  The owner is mad as a March hare.
> >
> >And which one would you be Juan?  ;-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Cheers,
> >  Cotty
> >
> >
> >___/\__
> >||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
> >||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps
> >_
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> --
> I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
> During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
> and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
> --P.J. O'Rourke
> 
> 



-- 
Juan Buhler
http://www.jbuhler.com

Re: istD in style

[Peter J. Alling]

Lets make it a survey, I vote for 3, hell if it were Cotty, I'd vote for 
3 twice.

Cotty wrote:
On 11/9/04, Juan Buhler, discombobulated, unleashed:
 

I figured, if I'm going to go digital, better do it in style. So I
turned my *istD into a Special Edition Black Tape Leather Strap istD:
http://flickr.com/photo.gne?id=405355
http://flickr.com/photo.gne?id=405353
The finish of the camera mathches the black tape. The strap is a
Spotmatic leather strap, perfect for wrapping around the wrist. The
leather feels way better than the plasticky logo-filled strap provided
with the camera.
Maybe now I'll even use the camera to take some pictures. Do you guys
think using a Leica has affected me too much? :)
   

When I see a camera that has the name blanked off, there can only be one
of the following reason's why:
1)  The camera is being used in a shot on film/tv/advertising and the
name is not needed.
2)  The owner is ashamed of the camera.
3)  The owner is mad as a March hare.
And which one would you be Juan?  ;-)

Cheers,
 Cotty
___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps
_

 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke

Re: PAW - not one but two!

[Peter J. Alling]

Possibly the Caveman should have a better balanced club?
Caveman wrote:
HAR ! Caveman is getting old and clumsy. Credits should go to David 
Mann. Great shots both of them.

Peter J. Alling wrote:
I'd like to say right now that while I like both of these photo's I 
had no hand in creating them.



--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke

Re: To Crop or Not To Crop - was: Francis visits Boone -- PESO

[Graywolf]

And facetious!
--
frank theriault wrote:
5)  I knew you were being pretetious...  
 


--
Tom
http://graywolfphoto.com

Re: istD in style

[Caveman]

4) The owner banged hard the camera, repaired and repainted it and 
didn't care about restoring the logo.

Cotty wrote:
When I see a camera that has the name blanked off, there can only be one
of the following reason's why:
1)  The camera is being used in a shot on film/tv/advertising and the
name is not needed.
2)  The owner is ashamed of the camera.
3)  The owner is mad as a March hare.

Re: PAW - not one but two!

[Caveman]

HAR ! Caveman is getting old and clumsy. Credits should go to David 
Mann. Great shots both of them.

Peter J. Alling wrote:
I'd like to say right now that while I like both of these photo's I had 
no hand in creating them.

Re: istD in style

[Cotty]

On 11/9/04, Juan Buhler, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I figured, if I'm going to go digital, better do it in style. So I
>turned my *istD into a Special Edition Black Tape Leather Strap istD:
>
>http://flickr.com/photo.gne?id=405355
>http://flickr.com/photo.gne?id=405353
>
>The finish of the camera mathches the black tape. The strap is a
>Spotmatic leather strap, perfect for wrapping around the wrist. The
>leather feels way better than the plasticky logo-filled strap provided
>with the camera.
>
>Maybe now I'll even use the camera to take some pictures. Do you guys
>think using a Leica has affected me too much? :)

When I see a camera that has the name blanked off, there can only be one
of the following reason's why:

1)  The camera is being used in a shot on film/tv/advertising and the
name is not needed.

2)  The owner is ashamed of the camera.

3)  The owner is mad as a March hare.

And which one would you be Juan?  ;-)




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Semi OT: Cradle/Docking Station

[Graywolf]

Anders Hultman wrote:
graywolf:
there is no direct requirement that a cradle connect the camera to
anything more than a battery charger. Docking Station definately
implies a connection to the computer.

...but not nessecarily to a charger, right?
I would think that is correct. Docking stations in computerese are to 
connect (dock) something to the computer. There may or may not be a 
charging facility. Cradles almost always hold something for charging, 
even cordless vacuum cleaners come with charging cradles.

Of course dealing with digital cameras, you are also dealing with 
advertising types. Strict correctness in terminology is not something 
those guys are noted for. You probably have to read the documentation to 
determine exactly what they mean by that.

--
--
Tom
http://graywolfphoto.com

PESO: 9/11/04

[Daniel Matyola]

This is a shot I grabbed with my Optio s this morning, at the
dedication of a new 9/11 Memorial in my hometown of Somerville,
NJ, USA:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2687999

Somerville is an hour west of Manhattan, and many locals work in
New York Ciy.  The memorial was placed by Somerset County, on the
court house square, in memory of the 39 county residents who died
in the World Trade Center twin towers that were destroyed by
terrorists three years ago.  The steel beam on the left side of
the clock tower is from the debris at ground zero.

Dan M
 


Sent via the KillerWebMail system at stanleypmlaw.com


 
   

istD in style

[Juan Buhler]

I figured, if I'm going to go digital, better do it in style. So I
turned my *istD into a Special Edition Black Tape Leather Strap istD:

http://flickr.com/photo.gne?id=405355
http://flickr.com/photo.gne?id=405353

The finish of the camera mathches the black tape. The strap is a
Spotmatic leather strap, perfect for wrapping around the wrist. The
leather feels way better than the plasticky logo-filled strap provided
with the camera.

Maybe now I'll even use the camera to take some pictures. Do you guys
think using a Leica has affected me too much? :)

j

-- 
Juan Buhler
http://www.jbuhler.com

Re: Boxes for batteries

[mike wilson]

Hi,
Jens Bladt wrote:
Do any of you know where to get a little box for batteries? Plastic or
cardboard material. Disposeable/use-once or long lasting.
Buy some Kodachrome, send it away for processing and it comes back 
(mounted slides) in a nice box with two compartments.  Each side holds 
four AA cells.

Yummy.
mike

Re: PAW - not one but two!

[Peter J. Alling]

I'd like to say right now that while I like both of these photo's I had 
no hand in creating them.

Caveman wrote:
Ah, the good old look of film ! Time to dust off the LX and give it a 
run this weekend.

Peter J. Alling wrote:
Last weeks one - "Kaikoura" (I'll put last weeks date on it even 
though I scanned it tonight)
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=4-Sep-2004

And this week's - "More Flowers"
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=11-Sep-2004



--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke

RE: *ist D for me

[Jens Bladt]

>With M and K lenses, only
>manual mode is available, which I have not found to be a hindrance. With M
and K lenses, only
>manual mode is available, which I have not found to be a hindrance.

Almost true. I found, that with an Pentax-F 1.7X AF adapter between the lens
and the body, the *ist D shutter Will fire in ALL MODES, which will  all (M
exempted) work as Av mode, and expose correctly, but all shots will be taken
at full aperture... :-(

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 11. september 2004 18:15
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: Re: *ist D for me


Yes, that is all correct. You can also use exposure compensation in all
modes, including shutter priority and  hyper program mode in addition
to manual and ap priority. (There's also an idiot mode, which I believe
is called program that requires nothing of the user.,) Hyper program
mode, which all the lat- model film camera guys are quite familiar
with,  will pick it's own shutter speed and ap initially based on
firmware parameters. Then if you change the ap that becomes a priority
and the camera will vary only shutter speed, or if you change the
shutter, that becomes a priority and the camera will change only the
ap. It is sometimes useful, although I generally work in aperture
priority or manual mode. When shooting something that requires a high
shutter speed, I'll work in shutter priority mode. In all modes, you
can add plus or minus exposure up to three stops. In terms of the
camera's capability to change ISO automatically, that's not something
you have to override. You can set that as a function. It's either on or
off, and stays on or off until you change it again. You can't really
change it accidentally, since you have to go into the menu and scroll
through the custom functions to find it.  With M and K lenses, only
manual mode is available, which I have not found to be a hindrance.
Since, as you well know, manual exposure forces one to think, which is
usually an advantage .
Paul

On Sep 11, 2004, at 11:36 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

> So, if I understand what you're saying, you can set the camera so that
> it
> can under expose or over expose regardless of what the meter says is
> the
> ideal exposure, and that can be done either manually or in ap
> priority, and
> that you can override the camera's desire to change the iso.
>
> Shel
>
> Paul said:
>
>
>> You can control the camera to expose exactly the way you want it to.
>> In
>> fact you have a great deal of control. You can use the camera in any
>> of
>> five exposure modes, including full manual. In some of the auto modes,
>> you can also set it to change the ISO automatically if there's not
>> enough light. Since I sometimes like to shoot in aperture priority
>> mode, I had that function turned on because it sounded like it might
>> be
>> handy. It wasn't. It was too eager to up the ISO, so I turned it off.
>> Now my ap priority mode works the same as on an LX or any other
>> camera,
>> although I can choose between spot, center weighted, and multi-segment
>> metering. I frequently use the camera in fully manual, center-weighted
>> mode. Just like an MX.
>>>
>
>

Re: Why did this lens sell for so much???

[Kostas Kavoussanakis]

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

> Kostas Kweried:
>
> > Another question, I am afraid: it turns out I have the 49mm hood for
> > the Takumar 28/3.5. This uses the same mechanism as the 18/3.5,
> > whereby you turn the hood against the ring that attaches to the lens
> > to tighten it. Will this work with a step-down ring, or will there be
> > too little lip to attach?

> I've not tried that with that particular hood.  I think a lot would have to
> do with the outside diameter of the step ring.  Maybe I'll check it out
> myself as I've had the same thought a few times, but never acted upon it.

I just bought a Tak 35/2 hood which screws on the lens. This means I
need a step-down ring. I will try both once I get the step-down.

Kostas

Re: Boxes for batteries

[George Sinos]

Earlier "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asked about boxes for batteries.
In see that Jens has already purchased what he needed from e-Bay.  Just in 
case anyone else is looking for a good source for battery boxes, 
rechargeable batteries and chargers I'll post this.  Thomas Distributing 
has a broad selection of these items. Their prices seem to be reasonable 
and service is good.

Here's the link: 
See you later, gs
--
George Sinos
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web: http://georgesoptions.net
Photos:   http://georgesphotos.net
--

RE: flash for istD

[Nick Clark]

Or red-eye reduction!

Nick

-Original Message-
From: "Don Sanderson"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 11/09/04 14:59:31
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: flash for istD

On my flashes the "pre-flash" in virtually undetectable to the eye.
The several flashes in a row thing is either:
Hi shutter speed sync, it exposes a "strip at a time" when shutter speeds
faster than X sync speed are used. Pretends to be a constant light source
like the "modeling flash".
or
Autofocus assit burst.

Don

> -Original Message-
> From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 8:12 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: flash for istD
>
>
> On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 08:38:03 +0100 (BST), Kostas Kavoussanakis
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > It has been covered before. The flash Prefires (my mnemonic, not
> > necessarily what the P means), the camera TTL-measures and takes the
> > picture with a second flash, adjusting flash duration as per the data
> > in the prefire.
> >
> > Or so I think.
> >
>
> Thanks, Kostas,
>
> So when I see Big Fancy Flashes of Big Fancy Cameras that flash
> several times in rapid succession before the actual flash, that's
> P-TTL in action?  I did not know that.  Now I do.
>
> A couple of thoughts:
>
> 1)  Wow, that must really suck juice!
> 2)  I presume, then that when one hits the shutter release there must
> be a delay of about a second or so to the exposure?  and,
> 3)  One certainly is letting everyone in close proximity to the camera
> know that they're about to get their picture taken!(not that
> that's always a bad thing, just that it wouldn't be very good for
> candids - for group or posed photos, it would be no problem)
>
> Thanks again!
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
>
>
> --
> "It's about time we started to take photography seriously and treat it
> as a hobby." -Eliott Erwitt
>

RE: Boxes for batteries

[Nick Clark]

I got mine from MX2 (www.mx2.com).

Nick

-Original Message-
From: "Jens Bladt"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 11/09/04 13:15:27
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Boxes for batteries

Years back I had a small plastic box (VARTA) for 4 or 8 AA batteries. It
came with a R/C toy car and had a belt clip.

Do any of you know where to get a little box for batteries? Plastic or
cardboard material. Disposeable/use-once or long lasting.

It would enable me to stop mixing up new and used, charged and discharged
batteries and limit the chance of short circuiting batteries in the bag,
pocket, drawer etc.
Such a nice thing do not seem to be avialable anywhere here. Do any of you
have a solution to this storage problem???
4 or 2  AA's or 2 or 4 CR-V3 would be nice! :-)

Thanks
Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt

Re: To Crop or Not To Crop - was: Francis visits Boone -- PESO

[Norm Baugher]

That's why I shoot 6x7 
Norm
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
So you're left with only about 10% of what you saw in the viewfinder 
 

[Original Message]
From: Norm Baugher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   

I crop probably 90% of my prints. It's because I get the idea in the 
viewfinder and do the finished print to my liking in the darkroom. 
That's my official story, most likely it's because I suck.
   


 

Re: *ist D for me

[Paul Stenquist]

Yes, that is all correct. You can also use exposure compensation in all 
modes, including shutter priority and  hyper program mode in addition 
to manual and ap priority. (There's also an idiot mode, which I believe 
is called program that requires nothing of the user.,) Hyper program 
mode, which all the lat- model film camera guys are quite familiar 
with,  will pick it's own shutter speed and ap initially based on 
firmware parameters. Then if you change the ap that becomes a priority 
and the camera will vary only shutter speed, or if you change the 
shutter, that becomes a priority and the camera will change only the 
ap. It is sometimes useful, although I generally work in aperture 
priority or manual mode. When shooting something that requires a high 
shutter speed, I'll work in shutter priority mode. In all modes, you 
can add plus or minus exposure up to three stops. In terms of the 
camera's capability to change ISO automatically, that's not something 
you have to override. You can set that as a function. It's either on or 
off, and stays on or off until you change it again. You can't really 
change it accidentally, since you have to go into the menu and scroll 
through the custom functions to find it.  With M and K lenses, only 
manual mode is available, which I have not found to be a hindrance. 
Since, as you well know, manual exposure forces one to think, which is 
usually an advantage .
Paul

On Sep 11, 2004, at 11:36 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
So, if I understand what you're saying, you can set the camera so that 
it
can under expose or over expose regardless of what the meter says is 
the
ideal exposure, and that can be done either manually or in ap 
priority, and
that you can override the camera's desire to change the iso.

Shel
Paul said:

You can control the camera to expose exactly the way you want it to. 
In
fact you have a great deal of control. You can use the camera in any 
of
five exposure modes, including full manual. In some of the auto modes,
you can also set it to change the ISO automatically if there's not
enough light. Since I sometimes like to shoot in aperture priority
mode, I had that function turned on because it sounded like it might 
be
handy. It wasn't. It was too eager to up the ISO, so I turned it off.
Now my ap priority mode works the same as on an LX or any other 
camera,
although I can choose between spot, center weighted, and multi-segment
metering. I frequently use the camera in fully manual, center-weighted
mode. Just like an MX.

Re: Pentax at Hooters

[Peter J. Alling]

frank theriault wrote:
On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 10:54:29 -0400, cbwaters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

- Original Message -
From: "frank theriault" http://www.bigdayphoto.com/pdml/uhoh1.jpg
   

 

What are the young ladies names?
 

Why on Earth would you care? ;)
   

Because I feel that by learning their names, we are less likely to
objectify them.  We should treat them as individuals, not merely as
"Hooters Girls".  I only want to boost their self esteem.
cheers,
frank
 

A daughter of a friend of mine was a "Hooters girl", believe me you 
don't have to.

--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke

Re: PAW - not one but two!

[Caveman]

Ah, the good old look of film ! Time to dust off the LX and give it a 
run this weekend.

Peter J. Alling wrote:
Last weeks one - "Kaikoura" (I'll put last weeks date on it even 
though I scanned it tonight)
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=4-Sep-2004

And this week's - "More Flowers"
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=11-Sep-2004

Re: PAW - not one but two!

[Peter J. Alling]

No need to apologize for boring titles, it's the photograph the counts, 
these are very, very nice.

David Mann wrote:
I realised a couple of days ago that I'd missed last week's PAW so 
this week you can have two at once.

Last weeks one - "Kaikoura" (I'll put last weeks date on it even 
though I scanned it tonight)
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=4-Sep-2004

And this week's - "More Flowers"
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=11-Sep-2004
Sorry about the boring titles.  Comments are welcome.
Cheers,
- Dave
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke

Re: Why did this lens sell for so much???

[Shel Belinkoff]

I've not tried that with that particular hood.  I think a lot would have to
do with the outside diameter of the step ring.  Maybe I'll check it out
myself as I've had the same thought a few times, but never acted upon it.

Shel

Kostas Kweried:

> Another question, I am afraid: it turns out I have the 49mm hood for
> the Takumar 28/3.5. This uses the same mechanism as the 18/3.5,
> whereby you turn the hood against the ring that attaches to the lens
> to tighten it. Will this work with a step-down ring, or will there be
> too little lip to attach?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kostas

Re: To Crop or Not To Crop - was: Francis visits Boone -- PESO

[Shel Belinkoff]

So you're left with only about 10% of what you saw in the viewfinder 

Shel 

> [Original Message]
> From: Norm Baugher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> I crop probably 90% of my prints. It's because I get the idea in the 
> viewfinder and do the finished print to my liking in the darkroom. 
> That's my official story, most likely it's because I suck.

Re: Pentax into the future

[Peter J. Alling]

Jens is absolutely right, the *ist-d may not have the fastest capture 
rate, it may not have the best autofocus, (debatable), but it does have
the best viewfinder, in it's price point, (from what I've seen and far 
beyond), it's image quality is comparable to all other 6mp DSLR's
but most importantly it allows you to use Pentax glass, (without 
modifications).  For that reason alone it's worth every cent. 

Jens Bladt wrote:
Noting modest about those lenses. They are all excellent IMO.
And ofcourse - Wlcom back Jeremy.
If you buy a Pentax DSLR you will help making Pentax competitive in the DSLR
market!
The *ist D is worth every cent of it's price, IMO.
I bet the *ist Ds will be too.
Jens
Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 10. september 2004 23:45
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: Pentax into the future

Hi everyone,
I have enjoyed the PDML on and off for the last 3 years (though mostly off
for
the last year).
I have been using Pentax cameras, since my first purchase 4 years ago. I
started
with an ME Super, and then graduated to a PZ-1 because I really wanted AF (i
have kids) and DOF preview. I have a nice little set of modest lenses ...
the
50mm Pentax M, the 28-70 FA 4.0, and a 70-210 F.
I absolutely love my Pentax and equipment.
Having recently decided to make my first step into the DSLR market however,
I am
concerned about Pentax's ability to remian competitive in the digital market
in
the long term picture. Money does not flow freely for me, and investing in a
DSLR will be a very significant investment (although I suppose this is the
case
for most of us).
While I yearn for nothing more than to remain a true Pentax user, I am
worried
going for their DSLR might be a mistake. Is it time to consider  converting
to
one of the "others" ? Is there any consensus on whether or not Pentax can
continue to keep up?
I suppose this might be a tough question to answer, but I figured what
better
place to find out than the PDML.
If this has been a common topic of discussion, I would appreciate being
pointed
in the direction of specific archive posts that I may find useful.
Thanks in advance
Jeremy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke

Re: Boxes for batteries

[Otis Wright]

Doug Franklin wrote:
Hi Jens,
On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 14:15:27 +0200, Jens Bladt wrote:
 

Do any of you know where to get a little box for batteries? Plastic
or cardboard material. Disposeable/use-once or long lasting.
   

How about just taking sets of two, four, whatever, batteries and
wrapping them in clingy plastic food wrap, like Saran Wrap in the US. 
I don't know what it'd be called in other countries or languages, but
it's the stuff you use to cover a bowl of leftover food before you put
it back in the refrigerator.

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
Yuk!   I'm sure it would work in a PINCH.  But for day-to-day use, I'll 
let youn play with the wrap and I'll stick with the boxes are light and 
super convenient --- and cheap

Otis Wright.

Re: *ist D for me

[Shel Belinkoff]

So, if I understand what you're saying, you can set the camera so that it
can under expose or over expose regardless of what the meter says is the
ideal exposure, and that can be done either manually or in ap priority, and
that you can override the camera's desire to change the iso.

Shel

Paul said:


> You can control the camera to expose exactly the way you want it to. In 
> fact you have a great deal of control. You can use the camera in any of 
> five exposure modes, including full manual. In some of the auto modes, 
> you can also set it to change the ISO automatically if there's not 
> enough light. Since I sometimes like to shoot in aperture priority 
> mode, I had that function turned on because it sounded like it might be 
> handy. It wasn't. It was too eager to up the ISO, so I turned it off. 
> Now my ap priority mode works the same as on an LX or any other camera, 
> although I can choose between spot, center weighted, and multi-segment 
> metering. I frequently use the camera in fully manual, center-weighted 
> mode. Just like an MX.
> >

Re: Pentax at Hooters

[Caveman]

HAR. Caveman sez that Pentax is like Hooters. It shows some, but ain't 
going all the way as we'll really like it.

Re: Pentax at Hooters

[frank theriault]

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 09:33:57 -0400, tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> http://www.bigdayphoto.com/pdml/uhoh1.jpg
> 
> tv
>

tom,

That's Cesar in the middle (good decision to shave the 'stache, BTW,
Cesar ), you on the right, so who's that on the left?

What are the young ladies names?

thanks,
frank



-- 
"It's about time we started to take photography seriously and treat it
as a hobby." -Eliott Erwitt

Re: Boxes for batteries

[Cotty]

On 11/9/04, Jens Bladt, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Years back I had a small plastic box (VARTA) for 4 or 8 AA batteries. It
>came with a R/C toy car and had a belt clip.
>
>Do any of you know where to get a little box for batteries? Plastic or
>cardboard material. Disposeable/use-once or long lasting.
>
>It would enable me to stop mixing up new and used, charged and discharged
>batteries and limit the chance of short circuiting batteries in the bag,
>pocket, drawer etc.
>Such a nice thing do not seem to be avialable anywhere here. Do any of you
>have a solution to this storage problem???
>4 or 2  AA's or 2 or 4 CR-V3 would be nice! :-)
>
>Thanks
>Jens Bladt

Or how about this?  ;-)






Cheers,
  Cotty


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||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps
_

Re: PAW - not one but two!

[Jens Bladt]

Beautiful shots, Dave.

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: David Mann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 11. september 2004 12:21
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: PAW - not one but two!


I realised a couple of days ago that I'd missed last week's PAW so this 
week you can have two at once.

Last weeks one - "Kaikoura" (I'll put last weeks date on it even though 
I scanned it tonight)
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=4-Sep-2004

And this week's - "More Flowers"
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=11-Sep-2004

Sorry about the boring titles.  Comments are welcome.

Cheers,

- Dave

http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/

RE: Boxes for batteries

[Jens Bladt]

Thanks a lot Trevor. Just bought two boxes, holding each 8 AA batteries or 4
CR-V3'es for 8 USD.

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Trevor Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 11. september 2004 14:31
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: RE: Boxes for batteries


G'day Jens.
I was just surfing the Australian Ebay site and saw a few of these
battery boxes for sale on there.
It might be worth having a look.
Hooroo
Regards, Trevor
Grafton
Australia

P.S. none of the items are being sold my me.

-Original Message-
From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 11 September 2004 10:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Boxes for batteries


Years back I had a small plastic box (VARTA) for 4 or 8 AA batteries. It
came with a R/C toy car and had a belt clip.

Do any of you know where to get a little box for batteries? Plastic or
cardboard material. Disposeable/use-once or long lasting.

It would enable me to stop mixing up new and used, charged and
discharged
batteries and limit the chance of short circuiting batteries in the bag,
pocket, drawer etc.
Such a nice thing do not seem to be avialable anywhere here. Do any of
you
have a solution to this storage problem???
4 or 2  AA's or 2 or 4 CR-V3 would be nice! :-)

Thanks
Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt

Re: PAW - not one but two!

[frank theriault]

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:20:43 +1200, David Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I realised a couple of days ago that I'd missed last week's PAW so this
> week you can have two at once.
> 
> Last weeks one - "Kaikoura" (I'll put last weeks date on it even though
> I scanned it tonight)
> http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=4-Sep-2004
> 
> And this week's - "More Flowers"
> http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=11-Sep-2004
> 
> Sorry about the boring titles.  Comments are welcome.
> 

I like them both.

Kaikoura is dramatic.  I like the texture of the rocks in the
foreground.  Nice flow to photo;  I especialy like the swath of clouds
that are moving in the same direction as that flow.

What I like about More Flowers is that, firstly, they seem to be
simple common daisies,  Second, the flower in the foreground is
wilting - not your average flower foto.  There's almost a poignancy to
it all - like you've managed to capture a certain beauty even as the
bloom is beginning to wither.  Finally, I like the lighting - flower
in the foreground in bright late-day sunlight, the one in the
background in the shadow.  Nice composition, nice OOF background. 
Nice justaposition between the bright wilting foreground flower and
the quite-alive darker background one.

Both very nice photos.

cheers,
frank



-- 
"It's about time we started to take photography seriously and treat it
as a hobby." -Eliott Erwitt

RE: Pentax at Hooters

[tom]

> On Sep 10, 2004, at 10:13 PM, Paul Stregevsky wrote:
> 
> > Today was the last day for a friend at work; he was laid 
> off. To give 
> > him a proper farewell, about ten of the guys took him to Hooters. I 
> > was the self-designated photographer.
> >

> >
> > The table next to ours was being served by one of the most 
> > breathtakingly loveliest brunettes I had ever set eyes on. 
> (I was told 
> > that she also
> > models.) But how could I explain to her-or to my wife-why I 
> wanted to 
> > photograph her? Luckily, all eight waitresses gathered 
> 'round my work 
> > friend and posed while I snapped away.

Yeah, they're not shy -

http://www.bigdayphoto.com/pdml/uhoh1.jpg

tv

Re: Crumpler bags wonder weenie???

[Ryan Lee]

Wait for their ultra compact- the teeny weeny wonder weenie!

Cheers,
Ryan


- Original Message - 
From: "cbwaters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 7:03 AM
Subject: Re: Crumpler bags wonder weenie???


> http://www.remo.com.au/online/special_item.cfm?f=6&plu=1214
>
> Not the product name I'd have chosen and certainly not the image I get
when
> one utters "wonder weenie"
> but hey, whatever ;)
>
> CW
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Ryan Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 11:13 AM
> Subject: OT: Crumpler bags (was Re: me again..)
>
>
> > Eek! Don't track bikes have no brakes?? And aren't they pedalling as
long
> > as
> > you're moving?? But anyway, if it was worth less that a pretty penny,
> > maybe
> > I should look again. Hmm, I'm sure you've got something I could use..
have
> > you got both your kidneys? 
> >
> > Some crumpler history here:
> > http://www.remo.com.au/online/special_item.cfm?f=6&plu=1214
> >
> > Some crumpler bags here:
> > http://www.crumplerusa.com/
> > http://crumpler.com.au/  (should be the better site since it's an Aussie
> > brand, but the site's sloppy. If you do get it to load, clicking the
image
> > of the man reaches the catalogue)
> >
> > I think the big courier bags look the best- the camera bags and laptop
> > bags
> > look rather odd.
> >
> > Frank this matches my impression of you and your bike:
> > http://www.fitzroycycles.com.au/moreinfo.cfm?Product_ID=802
> > although it lacks the embroidered bunny I so vividly imagine.
> >
> > This is the one I've got, the first incarnation of the Fux Deluxe- one
of
> > my
> > best buys of anything ever ever..
> > http://www.mtbr.com/reviews/bags/product_86797.shtml
> > which they've since replaced with uglier ones. About that review below
> > which
> > says you won't realise how big it is, how about this- I managed to fit a
> > case of 24 stubbies (beer.. 375ml per stubby) into my bag -without-
having
> > to tear the cardboard to separate the individual stubbies!
> >
> > Hmm.. in typing this email I just discovered they've got inserts for
> > storing
> > camera gear in my bag.. h.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Ryan
> >
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 12:06 AM
> > Subject: Re: me again..
> >
> >
> >> On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 00:06:06 +1000, Ryan Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >> > No, but I do accept track bikes worth more than USD3000, their dual
> >> > suspension day to day bikes, their crumpler bags, and their bunny
ears.
> > But
> >> > for you, I'll give you a bunny ear discount..
> >> >
> >>
> >> My day to day bike is my track bike.  It's not worth $3000US, $3000Cdn
> >> or even $3000Aus.
> >>
> >> I don't have a dual suspension bike.  Or a hardtail.  Or any mountain
> >> bike.  Or any bike with gears or brakes.
> >>
> >> I don't know what a crumpler bag is.
> >>
> >> I won't part with the bunny ears.
> >>
> >> So, you better list it on that English site...  
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >> frank
> >> -- 
> >> "It's about time we started to take photography seriously and treat it
> >> as a hobby." -Eliott Erwitt
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
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>

Re: Crumpler bags (was Re: me again..)

[Ryan Lee]

It's pretty cool how well Crumpler seems to be doing these days. I remember
getting mine back then straight out the Singapore distributor's car boot!
Got it really cheap too, probably cost price. And pretty sharp of Crumpler
to notice the camera market. Not really having browsed their catalogue
recently, I up til late still thought their only top loader was for a single
camera.. Then a friend of mine got a top loader which held a body with a
lens, and had space on either side for an 80 320 (maybe even might squeeze a
70 200 2.8 in there instead), and accs. Not sure what make it was, but it
was red and looked like a handbag (not the most comfortable bag to have
bumping on your back (twas a single strap), But it held the stuff.

Btw, you can download a 2mb pdf catalog from their Australian site. Nice to
see the options.

Cheers,
Ryan


- Original Message - 
From: "Amita Guha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 8:25 AM
Subject: RE: Crumpler bags (was Re: me again..)


> > Some crumpler history here:
> > http://www.remo.com.au/online/special_item.cfm?f=6&plu=1214
> >
> > Some crumpler bags here:
> > http://www.crumplerusa.com/
> > http://crumpler.com.au/  (should be the better site since
> > it's an Aussie brand, but the site's sloppy. If you do get it
> > to load, clicking the image of the man reaches the catalogue)
>
> Funny this should come up now - I'm planning to go to Adorama on Sunday
> to buy a Crumpler camera bag. I mostly like the design of the Crumpler
> camera bags. Crumpler is practically the only top-loading multi-lens bag
> I've seen, and there's a side entry that lets you get into the lower
> levels of the bag without ripping out the padding. It's still not the
> perfect bag, but I'm going to give it a shot because I really, really
> want a top-loader. I might also be buying one of their camera/laptop
> bags for a trip in November.
>
> Amita
>
>

Re: flash for istD

[frank theriault]

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 08:38:03 +0100 (BST), Kostas Kavoussanakis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> It has been covered before. The flash Prefires (my mnemonic, not
> necessarily what the P means), the camera TTL-measures and takes the
> picture with a second flash, adjusting flash duration as per the data
> in the prefire.
> 
> Or so I think.
> 

Thanks, Kostas,

So when I see Big Fancy Flashes of Big Fancy Cameras that flash
several times in rapid succession before the actual flash, that's
P-TTL in action?  I did not know that.  Now I do.

A couple of thoughts:  

1)  Wow, that must really suck juice!
2)  I presume, then that when one hits the shutter release there must
be a delay of about a second or so to the exposure?  and,
3)  One certainly is letting everyone in close proximity to the camera
know that they're about to get their picture taken!(not that
that's always a bad thing, just that it wouldn't be very good for
candids - for group or posed photos, it would be no problem)

Thanks again!

cheers,
frank



-- 
"It's about time we started to take photography seriously and treat it
as a hobby." -Eliott Erwitt

Re: Gull in flight

[Ryan Lee]

I liked this one I came across a while back:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1524147

Cheers,
Ryan


- Original Message - 
From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: Gull in flight


> Close, still not really sharp, but this one is over exposed and has blown
> out the whites!
>
> Kenneth Waller
> - Original Message -
> From: "Peter J. Alling"
> Subject: Re: Gull in flight
>
>
> > You mean like this:
> >
>
http://www.mindspring.com/~palling/photography/gallery1/photographs/On_the_w
> ing.jpg
> >
> > Kenneth Waller wrote:
> >
> > >Good composition, but to pull this off with blurry wings, most of the
> body
> > >has got to be sharper IMHO.
> > >
> > >Kenneth Waller
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: "Peter J. Alling" Subject: PAW: Gull in flight
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>In case anyone's interested this was taken with the SMC Pentax F
70-210
> > >>f4~5.6 and Pentax F 1.7x converter.  Camera was a LX.  Film Fuji color
> > >>negative.
> > >>
> > >>My focus was a bit off, I would have liked the gulls eye to be in
focus
> > >>instead I got it's foot, (oh well).
> > >>
> > >>Comments welcome:  (Who am I kidding only Frank's been looking at my
> > >>stuff lately).
> > >>
> > >>http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PAW_--_Gull_in_Flight.html.
> > >>
> > >>--
> > >>I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
> > >>During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
> > >>and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during
> > >>
> > >>
> > >peacetime.
> > >
> > >
> > >>--P.J. O'Rourke
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
> > During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
> > and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during
> peacetime.
> > --P.J. O'Rourke
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Gull in flight

[Ryan Lee]

I like this shot! Looks like a hummingbird almost. But yeah, really love the
sparse white and blue simplicity of it all.

Cheers,
Ryan


- Original Message - 
From: "Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: Gull in flight


> You mean like this:
>
http://www.mindspring.com/~palling/photography/gallery1/photographs/On_the_wing.jpg
>
> Kenneth Waller wrote:
>
> >Good composition, but to pull this off with blurry wings, most of the
body
> >has got to be sharper IMHO.
> >
> >Kenneth Waller
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Peter J. Alling" Subject: PAW: Gull in flight
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>In case anyone's interested this was taken with the SMC Pentax F 70-210
> >>f4~5.6 and Pentax F 1.7x converter.  Camera was a LX.  Film Fuji color
> >>negative.
> >>
> >>My focus was a bit off, I would have liked the gulls eye to be in focus
> >>instead I got it's foot, (oh well).
> >>
> >>Comments welcome:  (Who am I kidding only Frank's been looking at my
> >>stuff lately).
> >>
> >>http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PAW_--_Gull_in_Flight.html.
> >>
> >>--
> >>I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
> >>During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
> >>and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during
> >>
> >>
> >peacetime.
> >
> >
> >>--P.J. O'Rourke
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> -- 
> I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
> During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
> and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during
peacetime.
> --P.J. O'Rourke
>
>
>

Re: flash for istD

[Ryan Lee]

Think there's a guy on eBay with a few af360fgzs, and I think they're going
around USD200?

Cheers,
Ryan


- Original Message - 
From: "Amita Guha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 8:39 AM
Subject: flash for istD


> Are there any third-party flashes that will communicate with the istD,
> or do I need to get a Pentax flash? Apologies if I asked this already. I
> have a wedding coming up in November, and I want to get some nice shots,
> but I'd rather not pony up $300 US if I can help it.
>
> Amita
>
>

Re: me again..

[Ryan Lee]

Yep body, standard a/cs, box and papers. And new camera smell. :)

Cheers,
Ryan


> Hey Ryan, does that thing come with the box?
> 
> 
> Cheers,
>   Cotty
> 
> 
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> 
> 

RE: Boxes for batteries

[Trevor Bailey]

G'day Jens.
I was just surfing the Australian Ebay site and saw a few of these
battery boxes for sale on there.
It might be worth having a look.
Hooroo
Regards, Trevor
Grafton
Australia

P.S. none of the items are being sold my me.

-Original Message-
From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, 11 September 2004 10:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Boxes for batteries


Years back I had a small plastic box (VARTA) for 4 or 8 AA batteries. It
came with a R/C toy car and had a belt clip.

Do any of you know where to get a little box for batteries? Plastic or
cardboard material. Disposeable/use-once or long lasting.

It would enable me to stop mixing up new and used, charged and
discharged
batteries and limit the chance of short circuiting batteries in the bag,
pocket, drawer etc.
Such a nice thing do not seem to be avialable anywhere here. Do any of
you
have a solution to this storage problem???
4 or 2  AA's or 2 or 4 CR-V3 would be nice! :-)

Thanks
Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt

Boxes for batteries

[Jens Bladt]

Years back I had a small plastic box (VARTA) for 4 or 8 AA batteries. It
came with a R/C toy car and had a belt clip.

Do any of you know where to get a little box for batteries? Plastic or
cardboard material. Disposeable/use-once or long lasting.

It would enable me to stop mixing up new and used, charged and discharged
batteries and limit the chance of short circuiting batteries in the bag,
pocket, drawer etc.
Such a nice thing do not seem to be avialable anywhere here. Do any of you
have a solution to this storage problem???
4 or 2  AA's or 2 or 4 CR-V3 would be nice! :-)

Thanks
Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt

Re: Pentax into the future

[John Forbes]

Jeremy,
The greatest single thing about digital is that you can experiment all  
day, get instant feedback, and not spend a cent (was going to write penny,  
but decided against it).  I print at the local photo place where they will  
happily print what I give them without attempting to change anything.   
Most of the time I just view the pics on the computer, so printing costs  
are very low.

For me, digital cameras would be cheap at twice the price.
As for the *ist D, it's a beauty, and if you have a PZ1(-P), you'll feel  
at home immediately.  It cannot be compared in any way with the Rebel.

In the long term, who knows what may happen.  However, it's a reasonable  
bet that Canon will have changed their mount again, and rendered all old  
lenses obsolete.

John
On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 10:41:44 +0100, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Jeremy,
The *ist D was made for you. Go and get one and never look back. You will
not regret it and the money you save on film will astonish you.
Unfortunately the money you will spend on computer and printing hardware
will also astonish you.
Good luck.

Cheers,
  Cotty
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Re: Firewire Card Reader

[Paul Stenquist]

Hi Shel,
No, that three minute download was performed through a Belkin firewire 
card mounted in one of the PCS slots on my G4 Mac. I'm sure it's the 
earlier firewire version, since I've had the card for a couple of 
years. (The Mac has two ports as well, but they're both running hard 
drives.)  I believe the older version is called firewire 400. With USB 
1, my downloads were around 20 minutes. I never tried USB 2, because 
the Mac wasn't equipped with it, and I've heard that people have 
problems with third party cards. But Microtech claims their firewire 
reader is considerably faster than any USB 2 device, even with firewire 
400. I believe them.
Paul
On Sep 11, 2004, at 2:29 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

Paul,
Are you using the new Firewire 800?
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I bought a Microtech Firewire CameraMate card reader. It downloads my
one gig lexar 40X card in about three minutes. I'm impressed. It was
only about fifty bucks at a local camera store, probably less on the
internet. Worth every penny.

Re: RAW vs. JPG and CF size

[Paul Stenquist]

Yes, the raw files have 16 bit information. PhotoShop CS will convert 
them to 144 megabyte 16-bit tiff files.
Paul
On Sep 11, 2004, at 12:44 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

I thought the istd was 12 bits ... is it really 16 bits?
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The blanket statement that "RAW/uncompressed storage is the only way 
to
go for
serious digital photography" is perfectly valid when referring to the
*ist D
(which was the basis of the discussion). I always prefer to have 
access
to a
file with 16bits depth per colour channel than 8bits (ie larger file
size) from
any other high performance digital imaging equipment. I'd rather have
control
of what data is discarded.

PAW - not one but two!

[David Mann]

I realised a couple of days ago that I'd missed last week's PAW so this 
week you can have two at once.

Last weeks one - "Kaikoura" (I'll put last weeks date on it even though 
I scanned it tonight)
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=4-Sep-2004

And this week's - "More Flowers"
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=11-Sep-2004
Sorry about the boring titles.  Comments are welcome.
Cheers,
- Dave
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/

Re: Amy on the Wake Board, the series

[Rob Studdert]

On 11 Sep 2004 at 8:19, DagT wrote:

> The speed of the *istD is OK with me.
> 
> The reaction time of a photographer who has some idea of how he wants 
> the picture is about 1/10 second and will beat even the 1DmkII if the 
> intention is to get one good picture.  I gave up winders and motors 
> because I sometimes got the picture before and after, but not when 
> something happened.
> 
> Of course this is different if you want a detailed series, but then you 
> are almost into video.

I rarely if ever have the camera on auto-fire, I have run out of buffer many a 
time in single shot mode, each time the shutter fired was my decision. Get to 
the end of the buffer and seven seconds is a mighty long time to wait between 
frames if a car is flipping in front of you or if a performer is right in front 
of you performing to the camera. At least with the LX I could pick up my other 
one (I had two motors) with film pre-loaded so I could get in as many as 72 
shots in a sequence at over 5fps (if required).


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: Amy on the Wake Board, the series

[Bob W]

Hi,

[...]
> The reaction time of a photographer who has some idea of how he wants
> the picture is about 1/10 second and will beat even the 1DmkII if the
> intention is to get one good picture.  I gave up winders and motors 
> because I sometimes got the picture before and after, but not when 
> something happened.
[...]

I think you must have been using your winders wrong. When you're
peering through the viewfinder you should press the release when you
think the scene is right. Having a winder or motor on makes no
difference to the timing at that critical (dare I say 'decisive'?)
moment. The purpose of the winder is to get you ready for the next
shot more quickly, and to make it easier for you to keep your eye up
to the viewfinder. It doesn't take away your responsibility for
timing the release of the shutter.

Treating it like a Kalashnikov is entirely the wrong approach.

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob

RE: RAW vs. JPG and CF size

[Rob Studdert]

On 10 Sep 2004 at 21:44, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

> I thought the istd was 12 bits ... is it really 16 bits?

This is where it gets confusing. Each pixel of the final image is formulated 
based on a cluster of individual colour pixels (RGBG) of 12bits depth each. The 
final 3 colour pixel is interpolated and its absolute precision will depend 
upon the precision of the algorithms used to demosaic the data.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: Pentax into the future

[Cotty]

Jeremy,

The *ist D was made for you. Go and get one and never look back. You will
not regret it and the money you save on film will astonish you.
Unfortunately the money you will spend on computer and printing hardware
will also astonish you.

Good luck.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Friday Funny Foto

[Cotty]

On 10/9/04, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Why women live longer than men:
>
>http://home.earthlink.net/~sbelinkoff/why.jpg

ROTFL

>Shel Belinkoff
>"People that hate cats will come back as mice in their next life." 

gr ;-)



Cheers,
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RE: Which is the rare one?

[Paul Ewins]

Hi Dario,
That's what the illustration in the original brochure shows, but
that's the only place I have ever seen a chrome 6x7. I'd love to get one,
working or not, but I suspect that they were probably sold in Japan only.

Regards,

Paul Ewins
Melbourne, Australia

-Original Message-


Somebody could be interested in knowing that some 6x7 were also made in
chrome finish (body), with black pentraprism. They were very early
production.

Dario

RE: Pentax into the future

[Jens Bladt]

Noting modest about those lenses. They are all excellent IMO.

And ofcourse - Wlcom back Jeremy.
If you buy a Pentax DSLR you will help making Pentax competitive in the DSLR
market!

The *ist D is worth every cent of it's price, IMO.
I bet the *ist Ds will be too.
Jens

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 10. september 2004 23:45
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: Pentax into the future



Hi everyone,

I have enjoyed the PDML on and off for the last 3 years (though mostly off
for
the last year).

I have been using Pentax cameras, since my first purchase 4 years ago. I
started
with an ME Super, and then graduated to a PZ-1 because I really wanted AF (i
have kids) and DOF preview. I have a nice little set of modest lenses ...
the
50mm Pentax M, the 28-70 FA 4.0, and a 70-210 F.

I absolutely love my Pentax and equipment.

Having recently decided to make my first step into the DSLR market however,
I am
concerned about Pentax's ability to remian competitive in the digital market
in
the long term picture. Money does not flow freely for me, and investing in a
DSLR will be a very significant investment (although I suppose this is the
case
for most of us).

While I yearn for nothing more than to remain a true Pentax user, I am
worried
going for their DSLR might be a mistake. Is it time to consider  converting
to
one of the "others" ? Is there any consensus on whether or not Pentax can
continue to keep up?

I suppose this might be a tough question to answer, but I figured what
better
place to find out than the PDML.

If this has been a common topic of discussion, I would appreciate being
pointed
in the direction of specific archive posts that I may find useful.

Thanks in advance


Jeremy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Pentax into the future

[Kostas Kavoussanakis]

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004, Peter Spiro wrote:

> Jeremy,
>
> I have some of the same concerns that you have.  For the time being, Pentax
> is offering one DSLR model which I consider seriously overpriced.  Here in
> Toronto, the *istD is $2200 (that includes the 18-35mm FAJ lens, but most
> people say it's not worth much).   The Canon 20D body can be pre-ordered for
> $2000.

I have yet to read in the list that the 18-35 is not worth much, and
particularly that it's not worth 200 Canadian dollars as I think you
are inferring.

Kostas

Re: flash for istD

[Kostas Kavoussanakis]

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004, frank theriault wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 00:02:00 -0400, Angel Ramos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi Amita,
> > I have tested  with 2 flashes ,the  500FTZ and the dedicated 360FGZ. 
>
> Someone needs to answer Amita's question:
>
> What's P-TTL?  I'd like to know, too.  

It has been covered before. The flash Prefires (my mnemonic, not
necessarily what the P means), the camera TTL-measures and takes the
picture with a second flash, adjusting flash duration as per the data
in the prefire.

Or so I think.

Kostas