Re: Classy portraits :)

[Cotty]

On 17/5/05, Collin R Brendemuehl, discombobulated, unleashed:

>http://members.safe-t.net/dpconsult/images/mx1.jpg
>http://members.safe-t.net/dpconsult/images/mx2.jpg
>
>Shot with DS & K30/2.8 in jpg mode and sized down a bit.

Here's a great addition to living room studio photography:



;-)




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Classy portraits :)

[Kostas Kavoussanakis]

On Tue, 17 May 2005, Collin R Brendemuehl wrote:

> http://members.safe-t.net/dpconsult/images/mx1.jpg
> http://members.safe-t.net/dpconsult/images/mx2.jpg
>
> Shot with DS & K30/2.8 in jpg mode and sized down a bit.

Flash?

Kostas

Re: 21 Ways to Improve Your Photographs

[Cotty]

On 17/5/05, Cesar, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar,

Mark!




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: PESO - Waiting

[Marco Alpert]

Thanks Frank. Much appreciated.
(And yes, I  imagine telling her she should quit smoking - right after 
I take this picture...)

   -Marco
On May 17, 2005, at 5:10 AM, frank theriault wrote:
On 5/17/05, Marco Alpert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso16.html
Comments (of any variety) welcomed.
Great shot!
Well composed, nice and sharp, love the dof.
Even though we shouldn't smoke, I like the cigarette in her hand, the
sunglasses, the bag at her feet, the angle of her body.
And, of course, the fellow walking away (who no doubt has no
connection with her at all) makes the shot - love the way you caught
him mid-stride.
There's nothing not to like with this one, and everything to like.  I
think it's a terrific shot.  A rare instance where a long lens works
on the street (although Steady does this sort of shot well, too).
cheers,
frank
-frank

Re: PESO - Waiting

[Marco Alpert]

Hi Boris,
Thanks for the delightful comment. Rest assured that no one has ever 
needed my permission to hate me (though I don't think for anything 
having to do with photography). As far as being able to teach anyone 
anything, just be sure that you are in the right place at the right 
time. And have a camera.

Thanks again (and to Julia as well).
   -Marco
On May 17, 2005, at 10:01 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:
Hi!
http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso16.html
Comments (of any variety) welcomed.
Marco, may I hate you, just a little??? If you decline, I would insist 
you teach me how to shoot like this :).

Julia also likes it. She just does not hate you :).
Well, thanks for the lesson :).
Boris

Re: Opinions wanted on a couple lenses I saw at the local shop

[Thibouille]

I see ... (a kind of)

So maybe I'll take the Zenitar because a fish-eye at this price is
very nice make a good wide angle on a DS (not so fish-eye AFAIK). But
I'll orget the other ones...

The thing is a good zoom like 16-45 goes immediately to 400 euros (ouch).

At that price, I prefer playing primes IMO.

Regards,
--
Thibouille
--
Z1,SuperA,KX,MX,P30t and KR-10x ...

RE: PESO -- Working Boat

[Shel Belinkoff]

Peter,

All of your photos, regardless of lens or focal length, look soft to me,
and this one's no exception.

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: P. J. Alling 

> I took this shot at the same time and location as the biker chick...
>
> http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_workingboat.html
>
> Technical Information
>
> Pentax *ist-D ISO 1600 1/1500sec
>
> SMCP 400-600mm Zoom @ 400mm

PESO -- Working Boat

[P. J. Alling]

I took this shot at the same time and location as the biker chick...
http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_workingboat.html
Technical Information
Pentax *ist-D ISO 1600 1/1500sec
SMCP 400-600mm Zoom @ 400mm
As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
--
A man's only as old as the woman he feels.
--Groucho Marx

Discussion of focal lengths as applied to various formats

[David Oswald]

Like many (if not most) people here, I kind of grew up with 35mm 
photography.  I became accustomed to the over-simplified understanding 
of what various focal lengths can accomplish.  But having played a 
little with MF recently, as well as having enabled myself with an 
*ist-DS a few months back, I've been doing a lot of thinking about what 
different focal lengths do when applied to different formats.  I wanted 
to make a few assertions here and then hopefully learn from those with 
more experience than I.  :)

First, we'll state the obvious:  Keeping the format constant, a shorter 
focal length will give a wider AOV, and a longer focal length gives a 
narrower FOV.

Second, again holding format constant, a shorter focal length will yield 
smaller circles of confusion than a longer focal length.  Thus, a 
shorter focal length will have greater DOF at a given f-stop than a 
longer focal length.

Longer focal lengths are associated with stacking up an image or 
compressing perspective. Shorter focal lengths are associated with 
elongating or decompressing perspective.  This is one reason that short 
teles and mid-range teles are preferred for portraits; they tend to 
yield just a slight amount of flattening of the subject's features, 
rather than elongating the nose, for example.

A smaller format will give the impression of larger circles of confusion 
 as its results are enlarged to some typical print size.  Larger 
formats will offer the impression of smaller circles of confusion, 
because less enlarging is necessary to get the same sized print.  This 
means that smaller formats (holding everything else equal) will appear 
to have narrower depth of field, and larger formats will appear to have 
greater depth of field.

Now here's where I get a little foggy.
Let's take a 50mm lens, and put it on an APS sized format camera.  Let's 
take a 75mm lens and put it on a 35mm sized format camera.  Let's assume 
they both share equal optical and mechanical characteristics except for 
focal lengths.  And lets assume we're making two prints, one from each 
lens, both enlarged to 8x10.  The 50mm lens on the APS format camera (or 
DSLR) is going to have its depth of field made to appear narrower due to 
the "crop" factor (or more accurately, as its image is enlarged to some 
print size).  But the 75mm lens on a 35mm camera will show narrower 
depth of field due to the increased focal length.  Will the results in 
this respect be identical?

What other differences will be detectable, using those same two lenses, 
same subject distance?

Re: Happy Birthday Mark

[Cesar]

Cotty,
Was this the same generator you used in GFMtn during our PDML shoot?
I had to keep telling people that it was not me :-)
César
Panama City, Florida
Cotty wrote:
On 16/5/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
 

Thanks to everyone for the birthday wishes. I had a great birthday in
Oxford on Saturday. We arrived around 11:30 and had a cup of tea and a
snack before returning the rental car. Then Lisa and I did an afternoon
walking tour of Oxford's charity/fair-trade shops with Cotty's better
half Alma
   

I've managed to avoid that one - after all these years
 

after lunch at our favorite Oxford eating place (also her
favorite Oxford eating place), the Nose Bag. We took the bus to Chez
Cotty for dinner and birthday festivities. I tried both Fiddler's Elbow
and Hobgoblin ale. Both excellent but I must agree with Jostein that
Hobgoblin's the best.
   

!!  Too thick for me. Tongue needs a shave after drinking that stuff.
 

Cotty and ALma had a slightly anarchic cooking
session which produced an outstanding meal. 
   

Thanks Guv. Next time I'll do the Indian food thing and it'll be all me
with no meddling.
 

Great stuff indeed. We met
their son Stefan, who's a great kid (despite the remote control
electronic fart-noise generator he hid in our room)
   

He was the brains but I have to admit I was the hired muscle. 

 

and the household
pets (two cats and one hamster). Drank wine and had a splendid time of
it.
   

Yeah, we enjoyed that too. Wonderful evening. I slept like a baby (kept
waking up every half hour and being sick ;-)
 

The next morning I took a few shots from Cotty's kitchen door. Here's
one: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/cottysyard2.jpg
   

Fab!

Cheers,
 Cotty
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Re: Leica digital back no longer vapourware

[Cesar]

I still have to flaunt my photo lab.  I have had at least developers 
comment about the fact that I am the most consistent they have found 
with a roll of film.

They may have to adjust their machine to the flim being used, but once 
they get the correct exposure for the first print they know that they 
can continue for the rest of the roll...

I have always taken that as a complement - don´t burst my bubble :-)
César
Panama City, Florida
Graywolf wrote:
In the far distant past (sixties) you could get connected to the tech 
who actually printed your photos. After a while he knew what your 
style was and could produce pretty much what you would have produced. 
This was how pro-labs operated back then.

Then they put a pretty airhead at the front desk, so not to waste the 
tech's time talking to customers. Then they discovered that since the 
tech didn't have to follow instructions they could replace him with 
another airhead. That is when it all went to hell.

Now here is the $64 question. Why go digital if you are not going to 
do it yourself?

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
---
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: "Markus Maurer"
Subject: RE: Leica digital back no longer vapourware

Even when I explicitly state that I do not want any corrections or 
crops on
my photos and even when
the online service seems to guaranty that,
I still **never** receive what I ordered nowadays :-(
They can not even tell me the *exact dimensions*  (only only 
estimates on
the website) of
the enlargement, so 30 centimeters length could be as well 27 
centimeters on
the print!

If you are shooting digital, make sure you have a calibration on your 
system that matches the calibration on the lab. Make sure your files 
are tagged for the same DPI as the lab, and then size the file to 
what you want.
Make sure the colour space you send to the lab is one they recognize.

If you are shooting film, remember that you are working with a human 
being, not a faceless automaton.
Don't be condescending to the lab tech, they deal with fools all day 
long. A bombastic fool is worse than the regular sort.
I spend so much of my time fixing peoples screw ups that I tend to do 
it automatically. This means that I am second guessing the 
photographer out of habit. If I guess wrong, I appreciate being 
thanked for trying but., rather than being told off by some jerk 
that figures his picture is something special (most of em are just 
another bride with a scared chicken expression or a baby with Chef 
Boy R Dee on his face, and your pretty sunset is something I have 
seen a dozen times before, probably done better 11 of those times.

In all cases, deal with real people at the lab. The online web 
service that they foisted on me gives me the willies.

And not the regular kind, either.
William Robb

Re: DA-40 on 35mm? was Re: LittleTest:

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Cesar" 
Subject: Re: DA-40 on 35mm? was Re: LittleTest:


Film may be dead, but it is still available,
I knew a girl like that once
WW

Re: New DA50-200/4-5.6 [Was Re: New Optios]

[Cesar]

This is interesting, except that I have gotten used to fast lenses that 
when I put on an f/4 lens I am thrown by the dark viewfinder :-)

When was the last time I had a zoom on my cameras?
César
Panama City, Florida
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
On Mon, 16 May 2005, Cotty wrote:
 


   

Also from the same page:
"PENTAX also will ship the latest compact, lightweight 4X telephoto
zoom DA lens for use with digital SLR cameras. First announced at the
Photo Manufacturers Association (PMA) trade show in February 2005,
the smc PENTAX-DA 50mm-200mm F4-F5.6 ED is developed for exclusive
use with PENTAX digital SLR cameras for both mid-range telephoto
applications and serious long-range applications. Mounted on the
PENTAX *ist D or PENTAX *ist DS, this lens offers focal lengths
equivalent from 76.5mm to 306mm (in the 35mm format). This wide
coverage is ideal for a variety of telephoto applications, including
portraiture, sports and scenery. The lens will be available at $300
US."
Kostas (in "hmm..." mode)
 

Re: DA-40 on 35mm? was Re: LittleTest:

[Cesar]

Have Sherpa, will travel.
You can ask some of the GFMtn participants about the particular... :-)
I have gotten so used to a loaded pack that anything less seems so light...
My bag usually consists of an *ist D, maybe an LX, and a 20mm., maybe a 
17mm, a 24mm, a 31mm, a 50mm, a 77 or 85mm.

Of course an external flash and meter is required along with batteries, 
film, and cards...

After a weekend of carting I am really limber,
César
Panama City, Florida
David Zaninovic wrote:
Who is going to carry all this stuff ?  I don't want to have heavy load on my 
back the whole day.  It is too heavy as it is.
What I have in the bag right now:
*ist D
Pentax 16-45/4 - my "normal" lens
Pentax 70-210/4-5.6 - squirrels and chipmunks
Tamron SP90/2.8 - macro and portraits
Pentax F50/1.7, for bugs, using stacked with Tamron
Set of extension tubes - using with Tamron and F50/1.7 for bugs
AF360FGZ flash - for bugs and to get rid of shadows in daylight
3 sets of batteries just in case.
the rest of the stuff is light.
I will probably replace 70-210 with DA50-200 when it comes out but only if it 
is better optically.  I am trying to have light and
optically great at the same time, I can live with f5.6 in exchange for less 
weight, D has ISO200 minimum so that is much better than
the film I was using before Velvia 50 at 40 and Astia 100 at 80.
I would like to have 400/5.6 in my bag for birds but I think that would be too 
heavy to carry all the time.
- Original Message - 
From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: DA-40 on 35mm? was Re: LittleTest:

 

G'day David,
That just goes against the philosophy of enablement :-)
If it doesn't fit in the bag, get a bigger bag. If the bigger bag has
to much empty space, get more stuff to fill it with.
It's a vicious cycle . 
Dave S
On 5/16/05, David Zaninovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
   

I have Tamrac expedition 5 and everything has to fit inside.  If it does not 
fit it is time to get rid of something. :)
- Original Message -
From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 12:26 AM
Subject: Re: DA-40 on 35mm? was Re: LittleTest:
 

You could always get a slightly bigger bag 
Dave S
On 5/13/05, UncaMikey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

   

I am as susceptible to gear lust as anyone, I suppose, but I can't get
anything else because there is no more room in the bag!  Larf!
*>UncaMikey
 

Re: Can I be a ludite please?!

[Shel Belinkoff]

That's true, but it seemed worth mentioning nonetheless ...

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Date: 5/17/2005 7:58:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Can I be a ludite please?!
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Shel Belinkoff" 
> Subject: Re: Can I be a ludite please?!
>
>
> >I believe Adams touted it for certain types of photos, namely his nature
> > and most of his architectural stuff.  His portraits show plenty of
> > selective focus.
>
> His portraits weren't from the f64 group.
>
> William Robb

Re: Dunces on Wheels (Was Re: OT Raw upgrades for Photoshop CS?)

[Doug Franklin]

On Wed, 18 May 2005 00:44:02 -0400, P. J. Alling wrote:

> Oh, yea, the Alpharetta Autobahn, know it well. 

To me, the ultimate irony is that the "Krautmobiles" around here are
usually the slowest, least considerate, and least well driven of the
vehicles on the road.  With the possible exception of the idiots in
Hummers.  Quite a contrast to the real Autobahn.

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

Re: PESO ||| & Vivitar wide open lens

[Doug Franklin]

On Wed, 18 May 2005 06:57:38 +0200, Boris Liberman wrote:

> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?topic_id=1481&msg_id=00CD7i&photo_id=3367977&photo_sel_index=0
> >  

Ooo.  I _like_ that.  Has a ghostly feeling to it.  I'd love to see
a print of it.

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

Re: Leica digital back no longer vapourware

[P. J. Alling]

Hey Frank, I might know where you can get this neat Series One 35-85 
f2.8 varifocus...

Doug Franklin wrote:
On Tue, 17 May 2005 21:35:14 -0400, frank theriault wrote:
 

I am not very interested in gear, I have all the gear I want and need
and can use right now.
   

Wow! You sure are in the wrong place. :-)
 

There are a few of us in the same boat.  A very few...
   

OK, Frank, the "enablement squad" is on its way to Toronto. :-)
TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

 


--
A man's only as old as the woman he feels.
--Groucho Marx

Re: Dunces on Wheels (Was Re: OT Raw upgrades for Photoshop CS?)

[P. J. Alling]

Doug Franklin wrote:
On Tue, 17 May 2005 21:28:35 -0400, P. J. Alling wrote:
 

Doug Franklin wrote:
   

... riced out Nissan 200 SX that was worth, at best, about US$ 800
... with about US$ 2,000 worth of 17" "spinner" wheels and rubber band
tires.  The driver couldn't figure out how to operate a baseball cap,
either. :-)
 

 

Pictures???
   

Sorry.  I was busy navigating northern Atlanta traffic (GA 400
northbound in evening rush hour, if you know the area) and my hands
 

Oh, yea, the Alpharetta Autobahn, know it well. 

(and feet) were busy.  My Optio digicam was in its nest on the seat
beside me, but I didn't have the time to manipulate it.  Besides, I was
whizzing by Rice-San at a pretty good clip (+20 mph as I went past at
50mph). :-)  It really hacked him off that I blew past him like that,
but it was pure traffic tactics, not horsepower or speed, that did the
trick.  If he'd known what I was thinking, I'd have gotten at least a
"you're number one" finger. :-)
It was almost as funny as the soccer mom in the BMW Z3 (?, the BMW SUV)
that thought she could follow me onto an Interstate entrance ramp at
speed (I was in the slammed Miata, measured angular acceleration of a
little over 1g).  Well, on second thought, that wasn't really all that
funny, since her infant was in a car seat in the back.  She came within
an eyelash of rolling that beemer down the embankment into traffic as
she chatted on her cell phone.  She did manage to drag it back from a
30* rear-end excursion, which was either damned good or damned lucky.
I'll have to dig around in my bookmarks folder.  There are a couple of
really good "anti-rice" photo web sites that have wonderful examples of
the sort of crap this guy had done.  You know the type.  Rear wing
installed so as to generate as much lift as possible.  Body kit
installed with duct tape.  Eighteen gallon 'fart can' on his exhaust. 
He'd done the whole nine yards of stupid crap.  For half the cost, he
could have actually improved the performance of his "ride", but I doubt
he was a good enough driver to tell, or exploit, the difference.

Hey, if that's what floats your boat, go for it, it's your money.  But
to do all that and then get PO'ed when someone who actually watches
traffic and pays attention to traffic tactics blows your doors off,
well I just can't respect that.  And no, I don't cut people off or
change lanes without signalling or any of that stupidity.  I actually
pay attention to traffic more than one car in front of me.  There are
plenty of people leaving huge holes even in rush hour traffic around
here. :-)
On the track, I'd bet my next paycheck I'd have eaten his lunch, too. 
I doubt he would have accepted the challenge, had I had the chance to
challenge him to track time (I don't race on public roads).  No male
ricer has accepted yet, anyway, even when I offered to pay for their
track day.  If you're gonna stuff a sock in your drawers, you probably
ought to make sure nobody's gonna call you on it. :-)

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

 


--
A man's only as old as the woman he feels.
--Groucho Marx

Re: 21 Ways to Improve Your Photographs

[Cesar]

Thanks for stating that.  We are a diverse group here.  I have seen a 
few portfolios at GFMtn or at a PDML get together.  I do not have a 
portfolio.  I do not have the time.
I do not know what defines my photography.  I have been told that my 
people photography shines, but this is from the layman :-)
I am humbled at seeing what you guys produce.  I have had people tell me 
how great a photo I have taken is - I take it as a friend commenting. 
This is not as strong as an impartial observer...

I keep thinking I should get a portfolio together, the time is just not 
there, and of course the inclination.

I do enjoy seeing portfolios at GFMtn,
César
Panama City, Florida
P.S.  I rely on my looking at my photography as I sit in a rocking chair 
in my old age - 90+ :-)

Graywolf wrote:
A story I always remember is back in the days when the government was 
interested in helping farmers and sent all kinds of literature to 
them, one old farmer wrote: "Please don't send me anymore of them "How 
To Farm Better" things. I already don't farm as good as I know how."

On a list like this there are all kinds of skill levels. From 
beginners to people who have been into photography since Noah built 
the Arc. How do you critique the photos here. Some people need basic 
technical help, some only need to know if their photo has the 
emotional kick they think it does. You are pretty much wasting your 
time giving the second to the first. And you are just annoyingly 
condescending giving the first to the second.

So many of the so called critiques here take the form of I would have 
moved ten feet to the right when that would have been impossible 
because there was a wall there, or the photographer would have been 
standing on air with a 200 foot fall under him, or in water up to his 
neck. Unless you have been there you do not know what the situation at 
the site was. Now telling someone that if they had caught the light 
coming from the west instead of the east would have improved the image 
might be valid, if the photographer is serious enough to want to spend 
a day, or a week, getting that shot right.

In the days when I was pursuing photography seriously I found that the 
most useful criticism was very experienced photographers flipping 
through my portfolio. A nod at a photo told me I had done it right, a 
frown that I had done it wrong, mostly I got just interested but 
neutral expressions (OK, but nothing special). When I first started 
showing my portfolio I did not understand this, I expected long winded 
critiques but the only photographers who did that were teachers, and I 
soon learned that most folks teaching photography were doing so 
because they weren't capable of making a living doing photography. The 
serious working photographers didn't do that probably because they had 
long since gotten tired of the bullshit criticism they had put up with 
themselves.

Anyway I have occassionally posted long technical critiques when 
someone has made it clear they were looking for that. But mostly all I 
do is indicate that I particularly like something. You can take that 
as a smile and a nod at your photograph. Otherwise you can figure I 
either missed it, or it is in the neutral catagory for me. I 
personally feel that is about the only valid comment that can be made 
on the list.

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
---
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: 21 
Ways to Improve Your Photographs



So, I would much prefer that someone critiqueing a work say, "Next
time you're in that situation, try this approach, compare it to what
you've done, and see which you prefer."  I think that's much more
effective than, "I would have done it this way".
So, IMHO, it's not a matter of "how the critiquer would present the
subject differently".  Quite frankly, I don't give a rat's ass how
someone else would take my photos.  It's a matter of "would ~I~ want
to do it differently?"  I'm always more than open to suggestions.  Not
so much open to someone telling me how they'd do it, or what I
~should~ have done.
Maybe I'm just splitting hairs, but I don't think so.

You want your work to be critiqued in a semantically correct fashion.
This is why I rarely critique pictures from this list.
I don't give a flying fuck about politically correct semantics.
William Robb

Re: New Lens, Same Story?

[Doug Franklin]

On Tue, 17 May 2005 20:29:37 -0600, Joseph Tainter wrote:

> I cannot believe that I could have gotten three bad ones in 
> a row. What a disappointment.

That is really strange to me Joseph, since my F* 300/4.5 is almost as
sharp, or maybe as sharp, as my FA* 200/2.8.

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

Re: 21 Ways to Improve Your Photographs

[Doug Franklin]

On Tue, 17 May 2005 21:23:39 -0500, Cesar wrote:

> Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar,

:-)

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

Re: PDML at Point Pelee

[Doug Franklin]

On Tue, 17 May 2005 21:50:04 -0400, frank theriault wrote:

> During WWII, the Dutch royal family stayed in Canada.  In fact, they
> temporarily declared a small part of Ottawa to be Dutch territory so
> Princess Beatrice (I think it was) could be born on Dutch soil.

I think that's right, since Beatrice is the current Queen, IIRC.


TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

Re: Leica digital back no longer vapourware

[Doug Franklin]

On Tue, 17 May 2005 21:35:14 -0400, frank theriault wrote:

> > > I am not very interested in gear, I have all the gear I want and need
> > > and can use right now.
> > 
> > Wow! You sure are in the wrong place. :-)
> 
> There are a few of us in the same boat.  A very few...

OK, Frank, the "enablement squad" is on its way to Toronto. :-)

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

Dunces on Wheels (Was Re: OT Raw upgrades for Photoshop CS?)

[Doug Franklin]

On Tue, 17 May 2005 21:28:35 -0400, P. J. Alling wrote:

> Doug Franklin wrote:
> >... riced out Nissan 200 SX that was worth, at best, about US$ 800
> >... with about US$ 2,000 worth of 17" "spinner" wheels and rubber band
> >tires.  The driver couldn't figure out how to operate a baseball cap,
> >either. :-)

> Pictures???

Sorry.  I was busy navigating northern Atlanta traffic (GA 400
northbound in evening rush hour, if you know the area) and my hands
(and feet) were busy.  My Optio digicam was in its nest on the seat
beside me, but I didn't have the time to manipulate it.  Besides, I was
whizzing by Rice-San at a pretty good clip (+20 mph as I went past at
50mph). :-)  It really hacked him off that I blew past him like that,
but it was pure traffic tactics, not horsepower or speed, that did the
trick.  If he'd known what I was thinking, I'd have gotten at least a
"you're number one" finger. :-)

It was almost as funny as the soccer mom in the BMW Z3 (?, the BMW SUV)
that thought she could follow me onto an Interstate entrance ramp at
speed (I was in the slammed Miata, measured angular acceleration of a
little over 1g).  Well, on second thought, that wasn't really all that
funny, since her infant was in a car seat in the back.  She came within
an eyelash of rolling that beemer down the embankment into traffic as
she chatted on her cell phone.  She did manage to drag it back from a
30* rear-end excursion, which was either damned good or damned lucky.

I'll have to dig around in my bookmarks folder.  There are a couple of
really good "anti-rice" photo web sites that have wonderful examples of
the sort of crap this guy had done.  You know the type.  Rear wing
installed so as to generate as much lift as possible.  Body kit
installed with duct tape.  Eighteen gallon 'fart can' on his exhaust. 
He'd done the whole nine yards of stupid crap.  For half the cost, he
could have actually improved the performance of his "ride", but I doubt
he was a good enough driver to tell, or exploit, the difference.

Hey, if that's what floats your boat, go for it, it's your money.  But
to do all that and then get PO'ed when someone who actually watches
traffic and pays attention to traffic tactics blows your doors off,
well I just can't respect that.  And no, I don't cut people off or
change lanes without signalling or any of that stupidity.  I actually
pay attention to traffic more than one car in front of me.  There are
plenty of people leaving huge holes even in rush hour traffic around
here. :-)

On the track, I'd bet my next paycheck I'd have eaten his lunch, too. 
I doubt he would have accepted the challenge, had I had the chance to
challenge him to track time (I don't race on public roads).  No male
ricer has accepted yet, anyway, even when I offered to pay for their
track day.  If you're gonna stuff a sock in your drawers, you probably
ought to make sure nobody's gonna call you on it. :-)

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

Re: DA-40 on 35mm? was Re: LittleTest:

[P. J. Alling]

Cesar wrote:
I was doing pretty good until I got involved with medium format...  
Now there is never enough space for what I want to bring...

Film may be dead, but it is still available,
Sounds like someones ex-wife.
César
Panama City, Florida
UncaMikey wrote:
Wow!  Big bag!  I have a Lowepro Nova Mini AW, and everything has to
fit inside.  I realized that if a photo of mine did not work, it wasn't
because I didn't have the right camera or lens, it was because of me.
*>UncaMikey
--- David Zaninovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

I have Tamrac expedition 5 and everything has to fit inside.  If it
does not fit it is time to get rid of something. :)
- Original Message - From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 12:26 AM
Subject: Re: DA-40 on 35mm? was Re: LittleTest:
  

You could always get a slightly bigger bag 
Dave S
On 5/13/05, UncaMikey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I am as susceptible to gear lust as anyone, I suppose, but I
  

can't get
  

anything else because there is no more room in the bag!  Larf!
*>UncaMikey
  



--
A man's only as old as the woman he feels.
--Groucho Marx

Re: coffee fanaticism

[Alan P. Hayes]

At 11:35 PM -0400 5/17/05, frank theriault wrote:
On 5/17/05, Alan P. Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 I've been going back to Buffalo to take pictures, revisiting my old
 haunts after 25 years. It's not a bad place for photography. Lots of
 great rundown architecture, though people are getting a bit thin on
 the ground. 
In all seriousness, I feel bad for Buffalo.
Last year for GFM, I bussed from Toronto to Pittsburg to meet Mark
Roberts.  On the way back, I had a couple of hours to kill in downtown
Buffalo at about 2:00 in the afternoon.  I was right smack in the
middle of downtown.
Toronto downtown at that time of day is bustling - people in suits
with briefcases zipping about, heavy traffic on the streets, couriers
and delivery people clogging the sidewalks and roadways.  I had just
come from Pittsburg, and it was about the same as Toronto - a
bustling, busy downtown core.
Buffalo was dead.  No one out and about. There were a few big office
buildings, but no one was around them, no one going in and out.  It's
a dead or dying city.
Sad, really.  I guess the death of train travel killed them.
cheers,
frank
--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
They made some major mistakes, like building the new University 
center in the north suburbs instead of in the city on the lakefront, 
also shutting down Main Street for about five years to build a one 
line rapid transit that ended up going from nowhere to nowhere. I 
think the death of heavy industry probably had a lot to do with it, 
too.
But I tell you, Pittsfield's got it beat completely for desolation. 
On the rare occasion that we go for an early evening walk, in our 
admittedly small town downtown, we regularly come across a lone shell 
shocked business traveller, who's left our single hotel in search of 
dinner. There's not much we can do for them, either. If I didn't 
regularly get to New York, I probably think of Buffalo as bustling.
--
Alan P. Hayes
Meaning and Form: Writing, Editing and Document Design
Pittsfield, Massachusetts

Photographs at
http://www.ahayesphoto.com/americandead/index.htm

Re: DA-40 on 35mm? was Re: LittleTest:

[Cesar]

I was doing pretty good until I got involved with medium format...  Now 
there is never enough space for what I want to bring...

Film may be dead, but it is still available,
César
Panama City, Florida
UncaMikey wrote:
Wow!  Big bag!  I have a Lowepro Nova Mini AW, and everything has to
fit inside.  I realized that if a photo of mine did not work, it wasn't
because I didn't have the right camera or lens, it was because of me.
*>UncaMikey
--- David Zaninovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

I have Tamrac expedition 5 and everything has to fit inside.  If it
does not fit it is time to get rid of something. :)
- Original Message - 
From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 12:26 AM
Subject: Re: DA-40 on 35mm? was Re: LittleTest:

   

You could always get a slightly bigger bag 
Dave S
On 5/13/05, UncaMikey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 

I am as susceptible to gear lust as anyone, I suppose, but I
   

can't get
   

anything else because there is no more room in the bag!  Larf!
*>UncaMikey
   

RE: Tamron 24-135 comments?

[Amita Guha]

Then the 24-135 is probably an excellent choice. Also, if I might suggest a
superzoom, I quite like my Tokina 28-200. Most of these shots were taken
with it (except for the obvious macros)
http://sunny16.smugmug.com/gallery/278207

Amita

> -Original Message-
> From: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 9:45 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: RE: Tamron 24-135 comments?
> 
> 
> Thanks Amita,
> I have and like the 28-75 but would like something
> a bit longer for "walk arounds".
> 
> Don
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Amita Guha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 8:22 PM
> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > Subject: RE: Tamron 24-135 comments?
> > 
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 5:49 PM
> > > To: PDML
> > > Subject: Tamron 24-135 comments?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Anyone have any experience with this lens?
> > > 
> > > http://www.adorama.com/TM24135PXAF.html
> > 
> > My husband loves his (he has it for Canon) but he's thinking
> > about replacing
> > it with the Tamron 28-75mm, which is a constant f/2.8.
> > 
> > Amita
> > 
> > 
> 

Re: coffee fanaticism

[Alan P. Hayes]

At 11:29 PM -0400 5/17/05, frank theriault wrote:
On 5/17/05, Alan P. Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 Well, actually it was 20 miles north of Bflo, but nobody's heard of
 Lockport, much less Pendleton. 
Lockport?
Sure I've heard of Lockport.  The first set of locks of the Erie Canal
are there.
Pendleton?
Okay, I've never heard of Pendleton...
-frank
Ever hear of Timothy McVeigh?

--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

--
Alan P. Hayes
Meaning and Form: Writing, Editing and Document Design
Pittsfield, Massachusetts
Photographs at
http://www.ahayesphoto.com/americandead/index.htm

Re: Leica digital back no longer vapourware

[Cesar]

My friends are amazed that I do not own a cell phone.  The only time I 
have one is when I am working a triathlon or festival.

My friends tell me that they cannot reach me without a cell phone.  I 
tell them that I have an answering machine.  If I do not answer, then I 
am busy doing something else :-)

Still use my autofocus cameras in manual focus mode,
César
Panama City, Florida
P. J. Alling wrote:
It's funny, I've been accused by the Lawyer for my Great Grandfathers 
trust of being a Luddite
for not having a cell phone.  I on the other hand value privacy, which 
is the best reason not to have
such a device, if I had one I'd never be alone, (which for some people 
must be the next thing to being dead).

frank theriault wrote:
On 5/15/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

Whole lotta drivel in this thread by the film luddites.
  

Right.
Name calling will certainly quiet things down...
-frank

Re: RE: Leica digital back no longer vapourware

[Herb Chong]

the only things i have heard of were a plain single use P&S film camera 
where the film was processed, scanned, and destroyed. i'm not sure if that 
is what you mean.

Herb...
- Original Message - 
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: RE: Leica digital back no longer vapourware


Not that I am implying anything but
Have you heard any more about the direct film to digital things where the 
film doesn't make it out alive?

Re: PESO - Waiting

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!
http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso16.html
Comments (of any variety) welcomed.
Marco, may I hate you, just a little??? If you decline, I would insist 
you teach me how to shoot like this :).

Julia also likes it. She just does not hate you :).
Well, thanks for the lesson :).
Boris

Re: PESO ||| & Vivitar wide open lens

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!
I agree that flare on vivitar wide angle lens is terrible. I own myself 
Vivitar 19/3.8 and there are very few situations where it can be used 
without flare. On the other side I like experimentig with the flare.

Here is a picture I took this weekend where the flare is a part of the 
composition:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?topic_id=1481&msg_id=00CD7i&photo_id=3367977&photo_sel_index=0 

I would like to hear all your critics, comments and suggestions.
Luben, I can say it is very interesting from more technical point of 
view. I am not very fond of low key street images, which seems to be the 
case here, so I will concentrate on technique.

I suppose it would suffice to say that if you did not tell specifically 
that you "used flare" I wouldn't notice that. Which means technically it 
is excellent.

Otherwise, it does not tell too much to me, but I don't pretend to be a 
judge of such photography...

Well done, really well done!
Boris

Re: RE: Leica digital back no longer vapourware

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "John Francis"
Subject: Re: RE: Leica digital back no longer vapourware


On Tue, May 17, 2005 at 09:02:56PM -0600, William Robb wrote:
Have you heard any more about the direct film to digital things where the
film doesn't make it out alive?
I haven't heard hide nor hair of it since Applied Science Fiction
was bought by Kodak a couple of years ago.  Nowadays they seem to
be concentrating on producing Photoshop plugins, so I suspect that
we'll never see this as a product.
I find that to be a relief on several levels.
William Robb 

PESO -- Yorks!

[P. J. Alling]

Took the dog to the shore for a walk he made some new friends including 
this biker chick...

http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_yorks!.html
Technical Information:
Pentax *ist-D ISO 1600 1/90sec
SMCP-FA 28~200mm f3.8-5.6 @ 50mm f8.0
As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
--
A man's only as old as the woman he feels.
--Groucho Marx

Re: Further enablement in the 'little' brotherhood.

[Cesar]

I will give you an update at GFMtn.
You are just a bad influence, but I already knew that,
César
Panama City, Florida
Norman Baugher wrote:
It will.
Norm
Cesar wrote:
Hoping my medium format gear won't overtake my 35mm gear,

Re: RE: Leica digital back no longer vapourware

[John Francis]

On Tue, May 17, 2005 at 09:02:56PM -0600, William Robb wrote:
> 
> Have you heard any more about the direct film to digital things where the 
> film doesn't make it out alive?

I haven't heard hide nor hair of it since Applied Science Fiction
was bought by Kodak a couple of years ago.  Nowadays they seem to
be concentrating on producing Photoshop plugins, so I suspect that
we'll never see this as a product.

Re: coffee fanaticism

[frank theriault]

On 5/17/05, Alan P. Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> I've been going back to Buffalo to take pictures, revisiting my old
> haunts after 25 years. It's not a bad place for photography. Lots of
> great rundown architecture, though people are getting a bit thin on
> the ground. 

In all seriousness, I feel bad for Buffalo.

Last year for GFM, I bussed from Toronto to Pittsburg to meet Mark
Roberts.  On the way back, I had a couple of hours to kill in downtown
Buffalo at about 2:00 in the afternoon.  I was right smack in the
middle of downtown.

Toronto downtown at that time of day is bustling - people in suits
with briefcases zipping about, heavy traffic on the streets, couriers
and delivery people clogging the sidewalks and roadways.  I had just
come from Pittsburg, and it was about the same as Toronto - a
bustling, busy downtown core.

Buffalo was dead.  No one out and about. There were a few big office
buildings, but no one was around them, no one going in and out.  It's
a dead or dying city.

Sad, really.  I guess the death of train travel killed them.

cheers,
frank

-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: coffee fanaticism

[frank theriault]

On 5/17/05, Alan P. Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, actually it was 20 miles north of Bflo, but nobody's heard of
> Lockport, much less Pendleton. 

Lockport?

Sure I've heard of Lockport.  The first set of locks of the Erie Canal
are there.

Pendleton?

Okay, I've never heard of Pendleton...

-frank



-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: Auction to watch

[Collin R Brendemuehl]

Love those waist-level finders!
(or is it waste-level?)
Collin

Re: TOMAPBCBA - sigh

[Scott Loveless]

I think Bill already touched on this, but please read the Arnold
Newman quote in my sig.  Should work wonders for you.

On 5/16/05, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Had this is idea for a nice pic, and then apathy set it and it all went
> down the pan. So I present for you
> 
> Thought Of Making A Picture But Then Couldn't B Arsed
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Comments and criticism welcomed ;-)
> 
> Cheers,
>   Cotty
> 
> ___/\__
> ||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
> ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
> _
> 
> 


-- 
Scott Loveless
http://www.twosixteen.com

--
"You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman

Re: ist-D at ISO 1600, worth it?

[Herb Chong]

sounds like a low light focus problem.
Herb
- Original Message - 
From: "Joseph Tainter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:14 PM
Subject: RE: ist-D at ISO 1600, worth it?


Back from an overnighter to Denver.
I find that images shot at higher ISO numbers are noticeably 
softer. No one else has ever mentioned it on any list I've 
seen. Is it just my camera? Or is everyone else just not 
bothered by it? Onscreen it is not so noticeable. Enlarged 
prints show it clearly.

Re: New Lens, Same Story?

[Herb Chong]

based on your other msg, time to compare with the lens on another camera.
Herb
- Original Message - 
From: "Joseph Tainter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:29 PM
Subject: New Lens, Same Story?


Then I took it out for a quick test -- usual subject, a 
mud-brick wall shot on a tripod. Result: the lens is softer 
than the damaged F* 300 f4.5 that I just returned. I am 
baffled how this could be. Except for just a little typical 
dust, the optics look fine. The F version that I just 
returned had the rear element covered in spots of something.

Re: Tested the Tamron 300/5.6 on the DS

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Collin R Brendemuehl"
Subject: Tested the Tamron 300/5.6 on the DS


Just took a few quick shots.  f=8
This lens looks with digital about the same as with film.
Pretty sharp in the center and just a little soft on the edges.
Interestingly, no color fringing problems were noticed.
This might be a useful & inexpensive lens for short-distance digital 
birding.
Just keep it in the center.
Is that the SP?
William Robb 

Re: RE: Leica digital back no longer vapourware

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Herb Chong"
Subject: Re: RE: Leica digital back no longer vapourware


the research needed to make any reasonable improvement in today's films is 
very expensive. with the film market contracting at around 18%/yr, it 
makes no sense to do any more. process and quality control improvements 
are about all i can imagine them doing. when the boutique film market 
emerges, then we'll see some action again, but i think that there is going 
to be huge potential for snake oil claims.
Not that I am implying anything but
Have you heard any more about the direct film to digital things where the 
film doesn't make it out alive?

William Robb 

Re: New Lens, Same Story?

[Alan Chan]

--- Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I cannot believe that I could have gotten three bad ones in 
> a row. What a disappointment.

Well, I got four bad FA*200/2.8 in a roll, if that makes u feel better (probably
not)... But Pentax Japan finally inspected and sent me a perfect one from Japan
eventually.

> Maybe it is the difference between attaching the tripod in 
> the middle of the lens/camera assembly (F* 300) vs. having 
> to attach the tripod to the camera (FA* 300). At f4.5, 
> though, I was shooting at 1/500 of a second. So I cannot see 
> how the tripod mount could have made the difference.

You may be surprised, but I actually discovered all pics are sharper w/o tripod
collar at all shutter speed with or without MLU (with Z-1p anyway, a known
vibrator). But then I used B1 ballhead which might make the most difference. I 
would
certainly suggest you do more tests before giving up. Maybe you want to check 
for
any sign of repair too.

> What frustration.

I know...

Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan

__
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: PAW: Because

[Scott Loveless]

Excellent shot, Frank.  Sorry it's taken me so long to comment on it. 
It's very easy to imagine that the young lady in the photo is asking
herself the same question.


On 5/13/05, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyone remember Steve Martin's pixel board in LA Story?  
> 
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3360587&size=lg
> 
> Comments are always welcome and encouraged.  Thanks in advance to
> those of you who look, and again to those who choose to comment.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> --
> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
> 
> 


-- 
Scott Loveless
http://www.twosixteen.com

--
"You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman

Re: OT: Listing fee sale

[Ann Sanfedele]

David Oswald wrote:
> 
> Not sure if anyone else noticed this, but eBay sent me a message saying
> that anything listed in the US on May 17th will have only a 10 cent
> listing fee, regardless of auction starting price.
> 
> http://pages.ebay.com/promo/10centevent/
> 
> Knowing how much people here love to sell their equipment (to enable
> them to buy more Pentax equipment, of course), I thought I'd mention it
> here.  Hopefully it'll save someone a few bucks.
> 
> Dave

I'm all over it
remember it ends at 11:59.59 PACIFIC daylight time

annsan

Re: Peso(s): Weekend at/with Bernie's

[Scott Loveless]

Dave,

7042 does it for me.  Wonderful shot!

On 5/17/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Gang.
> 
> Actually this is a bit misleading. My nickname at work is Bernie, and i didi 
> take these at
> a weekend
> horse show, so maybe not.
> 
> http://www.caughtinmotion.com/paecweek1/
> 
> Put up a gallery for the riders at our barn, so they can see their shots from 
> the past
> weekend. I
> thought you all might be interested aswell. Thanks to Godfrey and Bruce for 
> the BB help a
> while back.
> 
> Nikon D1 with 80-200 F2.8. No crops or PS trickery. Scaled to size with BBPro 
> and HTML
> tools.
> 
> For your enjoyment,and comments if you so desire.:-)
> 
> Dave (D2H is back) Brooks
> 
> 


-- 
Scott Loveless
http://www.twosixteen.com

--
"You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman

Re: Can I be a ludite please?!

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Shel Belinkoff" 
Subject: Re: Can I be a ludite please?!


I believe Adams touted it for certain types of photos, namely his nature
and most of his architectural stuff.  His portraits show plenty of
selective focus.
His portraits weren't from the f64 group.
William Robb

Re: New Lens, Same Story?

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Joseph Tainter"
Subject: New Lens, Same Story?



I cannot believe that I could have gotten three bad ones in a row. What a 
disappointment.

What frustration.
Joe, I don't think its possible to get three flawed lenses in a row, even 
from Pentax. I would certainly be looking at other factors.
1/500 second is still shooting at the sync speed is, so don't let that fool 
you.
Try wrapping the tripod legs with a bungee cord to dampen any singing.
Better still, try a different tripod, preferably a wood one.
Don't extend the legs of the tripod, nor the column if it has one.
Attaching the tripod to the camera is always going to produce less vibration 
effect than attaching the tripod to the lens.

William Robb 

Re: TOMAPBCBA - sigh

[Cesar]

I am slowly trying to get back to the list, I sympathize.
This weekend I was in south Florida.  I took plenty of medium format 
gear.  Film was loaded, but the subjects I wanted just was not there :-(
I only shot the *ist D and feel that the weekend was a photographic bust 
- though I did get some good shots, at least some think so [no, I will 
not show the shot taken of me and Bridget].  That was guaranteed to get 
Frank's attention :-P

This weekend is a triathlon - if I can break away I hope to shoot some 
mf ...

If not, I will be in south Florida for the Memorial Day weekend [the 
keys await],

César
Panama City, Florida
Paul Ewins wrote:
I can sympathize Dave, I've got another 70 or so 5x7s to print for a
friend's wedding waiting for me in the darkroom. I've spent most of tonight
trying to adjust the rangefinder on my Speed-Graphic and have just lost the
smallest screw in the whole assembly. The only shooting I have managed in
the last month was a test roll through a Ensign Ful-vue which is an odd
little 6x6 TLR with fixed focus and just T & I for speeds. And that roll is
still waiting to be developed.
Regards,
Paul Ewins
Melbourne, Australia
-Original Message-
From: David Mann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 

Thought Of Making A Picture But Then Couldn't B Arsed
   

Grin...
I'm in the "I have no time" category :(
 

Re: 21 Ways to Improve Your Photographs

[Cesar]

frank theriault wrote:
On 5/16/05, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

You want your work to be critiqued in a semantically correct fashion.
This is why I rarely critique pictures from this list.
I don't give a flying fuck about politically correct semantics.
   

You know, I really get turned on when someone talks to me like that.
-frank
 

This is something I really did not want to know, but I will remember 
this on Grandfather Mountain :-)

Still trying to figure out when I will get up there,
César
Panama City, Florida

Re: 21 Ways to Improve Your Photographs

[Cesar]

William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: 21 
Ways to Improve Your Photographs


Or, to put it another way, I guess it depends on whether, when
critiqueing, you actually want to be helpful to the person who seeks
your advice, or whether you want the rest of the world to know what a
good photographer you are.l

Thats pretty much bullshit, Frank.
William Robb
I look forward to GFMtn this year.
I will be helping out as part of the 'team', but I am sure to spend 
enough time with the PDML...

Parents are wondering why I even own a house,
César
Panama City, Florida

Re: TOMAPBCBA - sigh

[Cesar]

Cotty,
I usually don't have time to comment on photos - at least not like I 
used to - but I really 'almost' like this one.  The lighting is a bit 
distracting though.

I would have waited for better light - maybe come back another time and 
taken a roll or two - oops, I mean a card or two.

Just in a silly mood tonight - coming home at 1:40 a.m. and working a 
full day did not help,

César
Panama City, Florida
Cotty wrote:
Had this is idea for a nice pic, and then apathy set it and it all went
down the pan. So I present for you
Thought Of Making A Picture But Then Couldn't B Arsed


Comments and criticism welcomed ;-)

Cheers,
 Cotty
___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_
 

Re: 21 Ways to Improve Your Photographs

[Cesar]

I have a friend - excellent photographer - who takes photos but never 
views them.  He 'knows' how they will come out and he was there when the 
picture taken :-)

When I first heard that, I felt sad,
César
Panama City, Florida
Herb Chong wrote:
that's the difference between a fondler and a shooter. or a Zen 
photographer. they don't use film in their cameras. it's the 
experience that matters.

Herb
- Original Message - From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 2:25 AM
Subject: RE: 21 Ways to Improve Your Photographs

I don't understand what you mean by this. You are making a picture of
something. That's what photography is. Otherwise, what is the 
something you
are making?

Re: 21 Ways to Improve Your Photographs

[Cesar]

But what is wrong with just documenting and letting the viewer interpret 
the scene much like they would had they been there?

There are occasions  when a lot of time is spent trying to make a 
picture  'perfect' in everyone's eyes and relating a viewpoint.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar,
César
Panama City, Florida
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Perhaps you'll better understand Brooks' remark when you've read the
article.  My understanding is that you are making something more than just
a picture of something.  You are creating an interpretation of what you
see, making something that tells a story, stimulates, excites, provokes
thought, as opposed to just a straight document of an object.  That you are
creating something that, on one level, has something of its own life apart
from that of a picture of an object.
Recently someone posted a pic of a wine cork.  It was well exposed.  It was
a wine cork.  However, it was nothing more than a pic of a wine cork.  Had
there been some creative lighting, a more interesting angle, a different
exposure, another or different objects on the table, the picture would have
been more than just a document.  It might have told or alluded to a story
of a romantic evening, a broken date, an alcoholic or someone who had drunk
too much wine ... 

Shel 

 

[Original Message]
From: Bob W 
   

 

That you are not making a picture of something, but that you 
are MAKING SOMETHING, should be etched into the mind of every 
photographer, 
 

I don't understand what you mean by this. You are making a picture of
something. That's what photography is. Otherwise, what is the something
   

you
 

are making?

RE: ist-D at ISO 1600, worth it?

[Rob Studdert]

On 17 May 2005 at 20:14, Joseph Tainter wrote:

> Back from an overnighter to Denver.
> 
> I find that images shot at higher ISO numbers are noticeably 
> softer. No one else has ever mentioned it on any list I've 
> seen. Is it just my camera? Or is everyone else just not 
> bothered by it? Onscreen it is not so noticeable. Enlarged 
> prints show it clearly.

No, grain is more apparent but at the same aperture it's definitely no softer 
from ISO 200 to 3200, grain/noise however produces the illusion of softness.

Cheers,


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: OT:Scanning place in Toronto?

[Mishka]

nope, i still am (and looks like forever will be) in NYC. but a friend of mine
is trying to find a place to scan a roll of 35m slides for me (and i
am paying :)
if i were coming to toronto, i would have definitely let you know!

best,
mishka


On 5/17/05, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 5/17/05, Mishka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Any good/not so expensive ones? I need to scan a few 35mm frames. 
> > Preferrably,
> > 16bit 4000dpi or so.
> > Thanks,
> > Mishka
> 
> I don't know.
> 
> Where in Toronto?  Are you near Oakville?  I bet Aaron could do it.
> 
> If you're downtown, I'm guessing one of the pro labs could do it.
> Steichenlab, Richmond and Berkeley streets is maybe one of Toronto's
> biggest pro labs.  If they can't do it, they could tell you where:
> 
> http://www.steichenlab.com/
> 
> Hey!  Are you in Toronto?  And you didn't tell us?  Are you still
> around?  For how long?  We must go drink beer and listen to jazz!
> 
> 416-686-2216, cell 416-896-3821.  Just don't tell anyone on PDML what
> my numbers are...  
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
> --
> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
> 
>

Re: PESO - Waiting

[Gonz]

Beautiful.
Marco Alpert wrote:
http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso16.html
Comments (of any variety) welcomed.
   -Marco

New Lens, Same Story?

[Joseph Tainter]

Got back from overnight travel to Denver. The FA* 300 f4.5 
had arrived from Vancouver. The outside is perfect, and it 
is a beautiful lens. In my hands the F version felt "better" 
(hard to describe just how). Still, I could get used to the 
FA version, and it is a wonderful thing just to look at.

Then I took it out for a quick test -- usual subject, a 
mud-brick wall shot on a tripod. Result: the lens is softer 
than the damaged F* 300 f4.5 that I just returned. I am 
baffled how this could be. Except for just a little typical 
dust, the optics look fine. The F version that I just 
returned had the rear element covered in spots of something.

I cannot believe that I could have gotten three bad ones in 
a row. What a disappointment.

The test was done in a hurry, but it has become my standard 
testing procedure and I can do it in my sleep.

The light was different -- evening, vs. morning for the 
images from the F lens. This should have made no difference, 
since the wall faces north and is nearly always in shade. 
Still, I may repeat the test Saturday morning.

Maybe it is the difference between attaching the tripod in 
the middle of the lens/camera assembly (F* 300) vs. having 
to attach the tripod to the camera (FA* 300). At f4.5, 
though, I was shooting at 1/500 of a second. So I cannot see 
how the tripod mount could have made the difference.

What frustration.
Joe

Re: coffee fanaticism

[Alan P. Hayes]

Well, actually it was 20 miles north of Bflo, but nobody's heard of 
Lockport, much less Pendleton.

I've been going back to Buffalo to take pictures, revisiting my old 
haunts after 25 years. It's not a bad place for photography. Lots of 
great rundown architecture, though people are getting a bit thin on 
the ground.

Of course, I live in a real ghost town, now.
Sure, I remember Irv Weinstein; Van Miller, I remember the name, but 
I've managed to blot out almost all my memories of the hated Bills; 
my hockey memories are of Gordie Howe peddling Mars bars on TV, and 
fuzzy TV screens showing a bunch of Canadians skating around, 
supposedly after a puck, but you could never see it, and frankly, I 
stopped believing in the puck about when most kids gave up on Santa 
Claus.

At 9:44 PM -0400 5/17/05, frank theriault wrote:
On 5/17/05, Alan P. Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 When I find out, I'll let you know.
 BTW that's pretty much what buzzed meant growing up in Buffalo. We
 got a common language, eh?
Buffalo!?!
And you admit it?
Every time I think of Buffalo, I have to think of Irv Weinstein:
"This is Irv Weinstein with a Channel 7 Eyewitness News Update:
Lackawanna smokeaters battle a five-alarm blaze;  film at 11."
Or, Ted Darling doing a Buffalo Sabres game:
"Barraasso, with an enooormas save!"
Or Van Miller, voice of the Bills (no quote from him though).
There, have I brought up any memories? 

Poor old Buffalo.  Why it was only 100 years ago that it seemed on the
verge of greatness.
cheers,
frank
--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

--
Alan P. Hayes
Meaning and Form: Writing, Editing and Document Design
Pittsfield, Massachusetts
Photographs at
http://www.ahayesphoto.com/americandead/index.htm

Re: New Enablement.

[frank theriault]

On 5/17/05, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> $52.00 US including shipping.

So, I'm thinking, put your $50 VS1 35-85mm on Godfrey's $30 black MX
body, and for $80 someone will have about the best photography value
you'll ever find.

cheers,
frank

-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

RE: ist-D at ISO 1600, worth it?

[Joseph Tainter]

Back from an overnighter to Denver.
I find that images shot at higher ISO numbers are noticeably 
softer. No one else has ever mentioned it on any list I've 
seen. Is it just my camera? Or is everyone else just not 
bothered by it? Onscreen it is not so noticeable. Enlarged 
prints show it clearly.

Joe

Re: OT:Scanning place in Toronto?

[frank theriault]

On 5/17/05, Mishka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> any idea on what's the ballpark of the prices? i mean, really roughly:
> is it like $5/frame or $50/frame?
> 
> thanks,
> mike

I don't know about Aaron, but here's Steichenlab's prices downtown:

http://www.steichenlab.com/pages/scan.htm

cheers,
frank

-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: PESO: another shot from the Livermore games

[frank theriault]

On 5/17/05, John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> If it had been a bit later in the day, I could have
> entitled it "just a thong at twilight"
> 

I was going to say something, but upon sober second thought, perhaps
silence is the best policy at this time...

cheers,
frank


-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: Can I be a ludite please?!

[frank theriault]

On 5/17/05, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Teller "It's not blurry, it's Theriaultean".

One day I'll be in the OED (likely when I'm dead and gone)...

cheers,
frank


-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: OT:Scanning place in Toronto?

[Mishka]

any idea on what's the ballpark of the prices? i mean, really roughly:
is it like $5/frame or $50/frame?

thanks,
mike

On 5/17/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Any good/not so expensive ones? I 
> need to scan a few 35mm frames.
> Preferrably,
> > 16bit 4000dpi or so.
> > Thanks,
> > Mishka
> >
> 
>   Miska.
> 
> Brother Aaron is working out of the house soon. Sold his store. He will be 
> more than
> helpfull and in
> a good price range.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Other place i can recommend is DNT photo near my office, just north of 
> Toronto.
> 
> Good prices and good turnaround. I can get the addy and phone number at work 
> for you.
> 
> Dave Brooks
> 
>

Re: New Enablement.

[frank theriault]

>I axed:

>Is that supposed to make me feel better?

>To which Mr. Alling responded:

> Umm, well, no.

You had me worried there for a minute.

-frank


-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: I'm back, it was fun, 1GB ain't enough!

[Collin R Brendemuehl]

Yup.
In RAW mode that's < 90 pics.
Less than 4 rolls of film.
It goes fast.  Really fast.
Collin

Re: PAW PESO - Digital Luddite Photographs Escaped Flamingos

[frank theriault]

On 5/17/05, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Peter's interesting PESO of the Giant Flamingos got me thinking about a
> couple of flamingos in my neighborhood that escaped from their pole perches
> last winter.  The neighbors were all aflutter about the incident and tried
> desperately, and in vain, to capture these two birds, but the birds were
> too quick.  Fortunately, I had my little digital camera with me, and was
> able to grab a quick snap as they flew off into the distance, probably
> heading south to warmer climes.
> 
> http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/escaped.html
> 
> Tech details: Sony DSC-S85 in TIFF mode with Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar zoom
> lens @ 21mm with aperture of F/7.1
> 

Have we seen this before?  It looks very familiar.

One way or 't'other, it's a real fun shot, but beyond the humour in
it, it's very well composed and framed.  Rather exquisite, actually.

Maybe it's the saturated colours, but there's a certain surreal look
to it.  I just can't put my finger on why I like it so much, but I do.

Great stuff (but fun stuff, too).

cheers,
frank

-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: Peso(s): Weekend at/with Bernie's

[Paul Stenquist]

Some terrific shots there, Dave. Thanks for sharing.
Paul
On May 17, 2005, at 9:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Gang.
Actually this is a bit misleading. My nickname at work is Bernie, and 
i didi take these at
a weekend
horse show, so maybe not. 		

http://www.caughtinmotion.com/paecweek1/
Put up a gallery for the riders at our barn, so they can see their 
shots from the past
weekend. I
thought you all might be interested aswell. Thanks to Godfrey and 
Bruce for the BB help a
while back.

Nikon D1 with 80-200 F2.8. No crops or PS trickery. Scaled to size 
with BBPro and HTML
tools.

For your enjoyment,and comments if you so desire.:-)
Dave (D2H is back) Brooks   

Re: PAW: Because

[frank theriault]

On 5/17/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> 
> Great shot Frank. These last few have been really good. Enjoyed looking at 
> them. Maybe
> i'll leave my
> little portfolio in the truck when we get to NC.

Thanks, Dave.  You make me blush.

My portfolio is actually quite small right now, and all my best shots
are now hanging in a cafe in Kingston.  Gotta start building it up
again...



cheers,
frank

-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: PDML at Point Pelee

[frank theriault]

On 5/17/05, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A few Michigan PDMLers will be crossing the border on Sunday to shoot
> birds at Point Pelee. We plan to meet in the PP parking lot at about
> 8:30 am. Bill Sawyer will be in a silver CR-V. I'll be in a red Jeep
> Grand Cherokee. Some of my kids will probably come as well. Haven't
> heard anything definite from Waller or Cassino yet, but we're hoping
> they make it. Perhaps some of the Toronto crowd can make it over for
> the day. Should be fun.
> Paul

Wish I could, Paul (and everyone else).  It's May 2-4 here, so a long
weekend.  I'm off to see children in Kingston;  we're heading up to
Ottawa for the Tulip Festival.

During WWII, the Dutch royal family stayed in Canada.  In fact, they
temporarily declared a small part of Ottawa to be Dutch territory so
Princess Beatrice (I think it was) could be born on Dutch soil.  Then,
after D-Day, it was mostly Canadian troops that were involved in the
liberation of the Netherlands.

In recognition of all that, they sent us a crap-load of tulips, and
we've had a tulip festival in Ottawa ever since.  Pretty big deal, I
hear.  Anyway, this is the last weekend of it, and that's where I'll
be.

Have fun with the birds.  And, have a pint for me.

cheers,
frank

-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: PAW: Because

[brooksdj]

> Anyone remember Steve Martin's pixel 
board in LA Story?  

No but i just watched the Jerk on Sunday


> 
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3360587&size=lg
> 
> Comments are always welcome and encouraged.  Thanks in advance to
> those of you who look, and again to those who choose to comment.
> 

Great shot Frank. These last few have been really good. Enjoyed looking at 
them. Maybe
i'll leave my
little portfolio in the truck when we get to NC.

Dave


> cheers,
> frank
> -- 
> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
> 

RE: Tamron 24-135 comments?

[Don Sanderson]

Thanks Amita,
I have and like the 28-75 but would like something
a bit longer for "walk arounds".

Don

> -Original Message-
> From: Amita Guha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 8:22 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: RE: Tamron 24-135 comments?
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 5:49 PM
> > To: PDML
> > Subject: Tamron 24-135 comments?
> > 
> > 
> > Anyone have any experience with this lens?
> > 
> > http://www.adorama.com/TM24135PXAF.html
> 
> My husband loves his (he has it for Canon) but he's thinking 
> about replacing
> it with the Tamron 28-75mm, which is a constant f/2.8.
> 
> Amita
> 
> 

Re: coffee fanaticism

[frank theriault]

On 5/17/05, Alan P. Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When I find out, I'll let you know.
> 
> BTW that's pretty much what buzzed meant growing up in Buffalo. We
> got a common language, eh?
>

Buffalo!?!

And you admit it?

Every time I think of Buffalo, I have to think of Irv Weinstein: 
"This is Irv Weinstein with a Channel 7 Eyewitness News Update: 
Lackawanna smokeaters battle a five-alarm blaze;  film at 11."

Or, Ted Darling doing a Buffalo Sabres game: 
"Barraasso, with an enooormas save!"

Or Van Miller, voice of the Bills (no quote from him though).

There, have I brought up any memories?  

Poor old Buffalo.  Why it was only 100 years ago that it seemed on the
verge of greatness.

cheers,
frank

-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

PDML at Point Pelee

[Paul Stenquist]

A few Michigan PDMLers will be crossing the border on Sunday to shoot 
birds at Point Pelee. We plan to meet in the PP parking lot at about 
8:30 am. Bill Sawyer will be in a silver CR-V. I'll be in a red Jeep 
Grand Cherokee. Some of my kids will probably come as well. Haven't 
heard anything definite from Waller or Cassino yet, but we're hoping 
they make it. Perhaps some of the Toronto crowd can make it over for 
the day. Should be fun.
Paul

I'm back, it was fun, 1GB ain't enough!

[Don Sanderson]

The play was very cool for grade school kids.
All about some of the great people in history.
Unfortunately, they had to hold the play in the gym
because of the turnout. The lighting was terrible.

In the process I learned a few things since this was the
D's first real "assignment".

1.) I've played with the D enough to be fully comfortable
with it. Never had to "fumble" for a control or even look
at the camera, that was nice to find out. It's a very nice,
solid, usable piece of gear.

2.) DSLR's aren't as common as I expected, out of 25
to 30 people with cameras, I was the only one there who
ever changed a lens! All the rest were PnS or EV fixed
zoom jobs. Kept getting those "Hey, who's this guy?"
looks. ;-)

3.) 1GB is NOT enough! Had to start conserving less
than a third of the way thru. Don't even know what I was
thinking, I would have shot 3-5 rolls of film at something
like this. Time for a couple more cards.

4.) The Tamrac Velocity 3 is a great bag for the D
and 2-3 lenses, very fast and easy access.

5.) I need a fast piece of AF glass in the 200mm range.

Pics to follow. (If there are any good ones.) ;-)

Don

Re: PAW PESO - Digital Luddite Photographs Escaped Flamingos

[Bob Sullivan]

Jedi powers...

On 5/17/05, Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> WOW - they can fly without using their wings!
> Jens
> 
> Jens Bladt
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
> 
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sendt: 17. maj 2005 19:37
> Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Emne: PAW PESO - Digital Luddite Photographs Escaped Flamingos
> 
> 
> Peter's interesting PESO of the Giant Flamingos got me thinking about a
> couple of flamingos in my neighborhood that escaped from their pole perches
> last winter.  The neighbors were all aflutter about the incident and tried
> desperately, and in vain, to capture these two birds, but the birds were
> too quick.  Fortunately, I had my little digital camera with me, and was
> able to grab a quick snap as they flew off into the distance, probably
> heading south to warmer climes.
> 
> http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/escaped.html
> 
> Tech details: Sony DSC-S85 in TIFF mode with Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar zoom
> lens @ 21mm with aperture of F/7.1
> 
> Shel
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: P. J. Alling
> 
> > Giant Flamingos
> >
> > http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_giantflamingos.html
> 
>

Re: OT:Scanning place in Toronto?

[brooksdj]

> On 5/17/05, Mishka <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Any good/not so expensive ones? I need to scan a few 35mm frames. 
> > Preferrably,
> > 16bit 4000dpi or so.
> > Thanks,
> > Mishka
> 
> I don't know.
> 
> Where in Toronto?  Are you near Oakville?  I bet Aaron could do it.
> 
> If you're downtown, I'm guessing one of the pro labs could do it. 
> Steichenlab, Richmond and Berkeley streets is maybe one of Toronto's
> biggest pro labs.  If they can't do it, they could tell you where:
> 
> http://www.steichenlab.com/
> 
> Hey!  Are you in Toronto?  And you didn't tell us?  Are you still
> around?  For how long?  We must go drink beer and listen to jazz!
> 
> 416-686-2216, cell 416-896-3821.  Just don't tell anyone on PDML what
> my numbers are...  
> 
> cheers,
> frank

I only take pictures of blues bands,but COULD go see jazz i suppose.
Don't tell anyone my number either Frank 416 312 2719.

Dave


> 
> -- 
> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
> 

Classy portraits :)

[Collin R Brendemuehl]

http://members.safe-t.net/dpconsult/images/mx1.jpg
http://members.safe-t.net/dpconsult/images/mx2.jpg
Shot with DS & K30/2.8 in jpg mode and sized down a bit.
Collin

Re: coffee fanaticism

[P. J. Alling]

Organic vegetarian...
Alan P. Hayes wrote:
I don't know what kind of coffee they have out in Caulifornia.
At 9:18 PM -0400 5/17/05, frank theriault wrote:
On 5/17/05, Alan P. Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 what does [buzzed] mean up there?

Stoned.
Although, I guess in the context of talking coffee one would
understand a caffeine buzz to be wired on coffee.  I'm assuming that's
the way you meant it.
cheers,
frank

--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



--
A man's only as old as the woman he feels.
--Groucho Marx

Re: PAW PESO - Got Paint?

[frank theriault]

On 5/17/05, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Some of you may recall that every April I do photography for a group that
> rebuilds and remodels homes for seniors and people who can't afford to make
> the needed repairs and alterations themselves.  Some time ago I posted a
> few pics from the last rebuilding session that I attended.  This morning,
> while transferring a batch of files from my old computer, I came across
> this pic, which is titled "Got Paint?" a little parody of a recent "Got
> Milk?" advertising campaign here in the US.
> 
> http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/gotpaint.html
> 
> Made with the little Sony at just about the limit of its abilities, but I
> like the pic anyway.  It may have been the wrong choice to use the Sony, as
> film and the greater range of adjustments on the LX that I was using that
> day would have allowed for better results. C'est la vie ;-))
> 

Nice shot.  I like her expression, the blurry hand and arm (makes it
look like she's working real hard).

I also like the angle, looking up at her and her work.

cheers,
frank 

-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: New Enablement.

[P. J. Alling]

Umm, well, no.
frank theriault wrote:
On 5/17/05, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

$52.00 US including shipping.
   

Is that supposed to make me feel better?
-frank
 


--
A man's only as old as the woman he feels.
--Groucho Marx

Re: coffee fanaticism

[Alan P. Hayes]

When I find out, I'll let you know.
BTW that's pretty much what buzzed meant growing up in Buffalo. We 
got a common language, eh?

At 9:29 PM -0400 5/17/05, frank theriault wrote:
On 5/17/05, Alan P. Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 I don't know what kind of coffee they have out in Caulifornia.
Me neither.
-frank
--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

--
Alan P. Hayes
Meaning and Form: Writing, Editing and Document Design
Pittsfield, Massachusetts
Photographs at
http://www.ahayesphoto.com/americandead/index.htm

Re: Leica digital back no longer vapourware

[frank theriault]

On 5/17/05, Doug Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 17 May 2005 16:56:44 -0700 (PDT), UncaMikey wrote:
> 
> > I am not very interested in gear, I have all the gear I want and need
> > and can use right now.
> 
> Wow! You sure are in the wrong place. :-)
> 

There are a few of us in the same boat.  A very few...



cheers,
frank


-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: Leica digital back no longer vapourware

[frank theriault]

On 5/17/05, UncaMikey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Since I am still a FNG here, I get to throw in things out of left field
> and can use newness as a defense.
> 
> I am not very interested in gear, I have all the gear I want and need
> and can use right now.  I shoot film, and when I get it processed I get
> a CD so I can pass shots around.  That's just me.
> 
> What I most enjoy on PDML is looking at other's photos.  Whether I
> comment or not, I learn something from almost every one.  And to be
> brutally honest, in the time I've been here, I have yet to be able to
> tell from the photo whether the photographer shot the original with
> film or digital.
> 
> In other words, film or digital seems to have little to do with the
> intrinsic quality of the photograph.  And by "quality" I don't mean by
> some technical standard, but rather aesthetic appeal.  Personally, if
> someone shares a good shot, I'd rather give at least 99% of the credit
> to the shooter rather than the equipment.

Dude.

I like the way you think.

cheers,
frank


-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: Leica digital back no longer vapourware

[frank theriault]

On 5/17/05, Herb Chong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> we don't think it *should* go away. it's going away no matter what anyone
> here thinks. what are film lovers going to do when a roll costs $15 mail
> order only, hardly any choice, chemicals hard to obtain and expensive, and
> quality control is iffy? just how much are you willing to pay for it, and
> what makes you think any of your favorite films will actually still be made?
> Kodak and Fuji will abandon it as soon as it's not profitable anymore, and
> that is only a matter of a few years. Agfa and Ilford don't look too
> healthy, and that's being charitable.

Tri-X will be the last film made (by Kodak, anyway).

When they stop making that, I'll go digital.

cheers,
frank

-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: coffee fanaticism

[frank theriault]

On 5/17/05, Alan P. Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't know what kind of coffee they have out in Caulifornia.
>

Me neither.

-frank

-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: OT Raw upgrades for Photoshop CS?

[P. J. Alling]

Pictures???
Doug Franklin wrote:
On Tue, 17 May 2005 19:27:17 +0100, Cotty wrote:
 

Would the purchaser of a compact car then buy a set of wheels
nearly equalling the price of the car?
   

Happens all the time around here.  Coming home from work yesterday I
passed a riced out Nissan 200 SX that was worth, at best, about US$ 800
... with about US$ 2,000 worth of 17" "spinner" wheels and rubber band
tires.  The driver couldn't figure out how to operate a baseball cap,
either. :-)
TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

 


--
A man's only as old as the woman he feels.
--Groucho Marx

Re: OT:Scanning place in Toronto?

[frank theriault]

On 5/17/05, Mishka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Any good/not so expensive ones? I need to scan a few 35mm frames. Preferrably,
> 16bit 4000dpi or so.
> Thanks,
> Mishka

I don't know.

Where in Toronto?  Are you near Oakville?  I bet Aaron could do it.

If you're downtown, I'm guessing one of the pro labs could do it. 
Steichenlab, Richmond and Berkeley streets is maybe one of Toronto's
biggest pro labs.  If they can't do it, they could tell you where:

http://www.steichenlab.com/

Hey!  Are you in Toronto?  And you didn't tell us?  Are you still
around?  For how long?  We must go drink beer and listen to jazz!

416-686-2216, cell 416-896-3821.  Just don't tell anyone on PDML what
my numbers are...  

cheers,
frank

-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: PESO: another shot from the Livermore games

[P. J. Alling]

I can only reiterate.   Agg.
Mark Roberts wrote:
"John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

A quick point-and-grab from the pub tent:
http://panix.com/~johnf/temp/scary.jpg>
   

I sincerely hope that "point-and-grab" refers only to the photograph.
 


--
A man's only as old as the woman he feels.
--Groucho Marx

Re: coffee fanaticism

[Alan P. Hayes]

I don't know what kind of coffee they have out in Caulifornia.
At 9:18 PM -0400 5/17/05, frank theriault wrote:
On 5/17/05, Alan P. Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 what does [buzzed] mean up there?
Stoned.
Although, I guess in the context of talking coffee one would
understand a caffeine buzz to be wired on coffee.  I'm assuming that's
the way you meant it.
cheers,
frank

--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

--
Alan P. Hayes
Meaning and Form: Writing, Editing and Document Design
Pittsfield, Massachusetts
Photographs at
http://www.ahayesphoto.com/americandead/index.htm

Re: New Enablement.

[P. J. Alling]

Just remember the advice is free.  However if it's as good as the Pentax 
badged version you'll not be sorry.

Steve Jolly wrote:
P. J. Alling wrote:
I just picked up my second Vivitar 35-85 Varifocus f2.8 in K mount.  
Not quite as pretty as the first but
seems to be in relatively good shape.  It needs to be modified to fit 
on the LX and *ist-D but at just over $50.00
I think I got a bargain.

And I won an auction for one of those Tamron 28-200 f3.8-5.6 thingies 
for $110.  Ebay, but at that price I was willing to trust the word of 
a certain P J Alling that they work nicely on the *ist-D...

S


--
A man's only as old as the woman he feels.
--Groucho Marx

Re: ist-D at ISO 1600, worth it?

[brooksdj]

> 
> Tuesday, May 17, 2005, 3:43:21 PM, you wrote:
> 
> DS> A neighbor just asked me to photograph her school
> DS> performance tonite.
> DS> If I stick with my best primes and RAW do you think
> DS> I can get acceptable quality at ISO 1600?
> DS> Or should I keep the ISO down and take the 500FTZ?
> DS> Typical stage lighting, 4x6 to 8x10 prints.
> 
> DS> Comments/Opinions appreciated.
> DS> Don

Don.

I have not tried the istD at 1600 yet,but, i shot my friend's retirement party 
a while ago
with live
groups playing, and shot some at 1600 with the D2H with the intent to B&W them.
They few i didi worked out well and my friend printed them out and said the 
noise was no
worse than
if i shot B&W film at that speed.

http://www.caughtinmotion.com/paw/nuraw1.jpg

Go for it:-)

Dave 

RE: Tamron 24-135 comments?

[Amita Guha]

> -Original Message-
> From: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 5:49 PM
> To: PDML
> Subject: Tamron 24-135 comments?
> 
> 
> Anyone have any experience with this lens?
> 
> http://www.adorama.com/TM24135PXAF.html

My husband loves his (he has it for Canon) but he's thinking about replacing
it with the Tamron 28-75mm, which is a constant f/2.8.

Amita

Re: New Enablement.

[frank theriault]

On 5/17/05, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> $52.00 US including shipping.
> 

Is that supposed to make me feel better?

-frank

-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: coffee fanaticism

[frank theriault]

On 5/17/05, Alan P. Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> what does [buzzed] mean up there?

Stoned.

Although, I guess in the context of talking coffee one would
understand a caffeine buzz to be wired on coffee.  I'm assuming that's
the way you meant it.

cheers,
frank




-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson