RE: Lens repair

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

If you own

- a small bowl and a piece of bicycle inner tire (this to unscrew the label
plate and collecting screws)
- a stick of wood and two nails hit through it (this as an -unadjustable-
spanner)
- a small screwdriver
- very basic understanding of mechanics and enough self-confidence

then you actually are a repair person... I suppose this applies to most of
the people around?

At least I repaired a broken 24mm SMC Tak. I got from ebay once this way.

Groeten,

Vic


Original Message:
-
From: Jim Hemenway [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 18:14:14 -0400
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Lens repair


Are there any Takumar lens repair persons on the list?

Jim






mail2web - Check your email from the web at
http://mail2web.com/ .

RE: Check out the bipod

[Tom C]

Ouch, no wonder her back hurts.

And here I thought you were going to show us a picture of Ann.

Tom C.




From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: "Pentax Discuss" 
Subject: Check out the bipod
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 22:06:29 -0600

http://k43.pbase.com/v3/20/519320/1/46279745.IMG_212201.jpg

William Robb

Photos & Storytelling - was PESOs: The Real Southwest

[Tom C]

Hi Joe,

You've reminded me of something I think about often and wrote about a day or 
two ago.


Nice narrative.  Thank you.

The point I'm attempting to make is that some photos may be 'enhanced' by a 
story, whereas others standalone without one.  I guess it depends what one's 
intent is, and I think pictures with a story may, in some ways, be a 
different 'art form' than just photography alone.  Maybe akin to written 
poetry and a performed piece of music with lyrics.  I know that analogy has 
some problems.


Am I making any sense?  It may be getting to late.

In any case, I think it offers one explanation as to why I find myself drawn 
to a photograph of my own (because I know the story behind it), while others 
find no attraction to it.  I sense that is often the case in photography.


Tom C.



From: Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: [Fwd: RE: PESOs: The Real Southwest]
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 21:32:28 -0600

Okay, maybe I need to go into this a bit more deeply.

Real Southwest 1:

http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/535671/display/3704299

The Navajo (this is part of their land) find beauty in even such a place. I 
do too. Above the mailbox is a bit of the formation that elsewhere is 
called the Painted Desert. Off in the distance is Sleeping Ute Mountain. 
The road leads to it. Look at the clouds building in the blue sky. I find 
beauty in the majesty of this open, isolated place, where on one else is 
around.


Real Southwest 2:

http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/535671/display/3704304

A lot of people in this part of the country lead a low maintenance/low 
overhead life. It is, in part, because of poverty. But not entirely. How to 
explain it? It is just the way of life. Some people will work in the city, 
then on weekends go back to a place that looks like this. It is their home, 
and they love it. I love this area and enjoy photographing it, including 
(sometimes especially) this part of it. Buildings such as this fit (blend, 
really) into the landscape like buildings in few other places I have 
visited.


Some years ago I talked with a woman who lives in Maryland. She had just 
been to visit the Hopi Indian Reservation in northeastern Arizona. She 
hadn't liked it. I asked: Why not? She couldn't quite put it into words, 
but after some prompting she admitted being bothered by the fact that they 
don't have front lawns. At that point I gave up trying to talk to her. Her 
experience of life was just too narrow, and she couldn't grow beyond that. 
I think her problem was in assuming that aspiring to an American home, with 
a front lawn, would be natural for everyone. Not so. Many people in the 
Southwest would not have such a home even though they can afford it.


That said, I do realize that people who live in greener parts of the world 
sometimes find the Southwest too stark and brown.


Tony Hillerman, one of our novelists, tells a story about talking to a 
fellow on a bus while traveling through some empty New Mexico landscape. 
The guy lived in this state but said he didn't like it. Hillerman asked him 
why not. He replied that it was too isolated and stark (or something along 
those lines). Hillerman's comment in his essay was that this was precisely 
why he does live here. Some of us just like it.


On PDML I have posted a photo or two showing how people live in Mali. The 
purpose isn't to show their poverty, but how wonderfully they cope with a 
life that most of us would find difficult. (Incidentally, poverty is 
relative to information. Most Malians are wonderfully happy and unaware 
that they are what we would call "poor.")


The Southwest is a quirky place. If I was just visiting here, I would want 
to find places such as in these photos, to experience the place whole. When 
in former East Germany and the Czech Republic recently I took several 
photos of once beautiful buildings that were allowed to decay in the Soviet 
era. I may inflict one or two of those on the list when I get around to it. 
I find beauty in their decay.


Joe

 Original Message 
Subject: RE: PESOs: The Real Southwest
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 21:03:37 -0600
From: Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net

Hi Joe,


You asked for reactions so I suppose you won't mind a negative one. To
be truthful, I don't care for either one. While they may be an accurate
representation of the less beautiful, less fortunate side of the
American Southwest, I feel that I see enough ugliness in the world as it
is, that I don't need to see more.

As you obviously know there's plenty of beautiful scenes and vistas in
those areas that are uplifting. It's not that I want to close my eyes to
reality, it's just that I would rather vicariously experience those
mindblowingly beautiful slices of your trips as opposed to the less
pretty ones.

No offense intended.

Tom C.

--

Your reaction is fine, Tom. Sorry if I

Re: OT: Darwin award candidate

[John Francis]

On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 05:06:29PM -0700, keithw wrote:
> John Francis wrote:
> >On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 06:45:54PM -0400, Tom Reese wrote:
> >
> >>Fred wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>...I don't really care for the name of the (Darwin)
> >>>award.  Unless it is referring to someone other than Charles Darwin the
> >>>biologist, then in my opinion it is naming an award for dummies after a
> >>>brilliant minded scientist. (I just thought I'd point that out...)
> >>
> >>It is named after Charles Darwin and for good reason. Those who receive 
> >>the award are recognized for their outstanding achievement in proving 
> >>the theory of natural selection.
> >
> >
> >That would only be true if the recipients attained award
> >status before they were old enough to pass on their genes.
> >Unfortunately this is rarely the case.
> 
> Be thankful for small favors!

Errm, no.  I think you misread what I was saying.

PAW: People & Portraits 2005 #28 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Four weeks behind, but I'm gaining on the target:

   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/28.htm

Comments, critique, flames always appreciated.

enjoy,
Godfrey

SV: 67 sighting

[Jens Bladt]

The links doesn't work!
Regards
Jens

Jens Bladt
Arkitekt MAA
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Derby Chang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 10. august 2005 23:04
Til: Pentax Discuss
Emne: 67 sighting



See, you can hand hold the 67.

Warning, Mischa is wearing a pretty revealing outfit. If that upsets 
you, don't click below.

http://people.freenet.de/wildehilde/mischa/barton-malibu-006.jpg

(I like this one, the photographer is cute)
http://people.freenet.de/wildehilde/mischa/barton-malibu-007.jpg

http://people.freenet.de/wildehilde/mischa/barton-malibu-008.jpg

D

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc

Re: CompactDrive PD7X impressions

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Aug 10, 2005, at 8:41 PM, Juan Buhler wrote:


I had promised long ago that I'd tell my impressions of the PD7X once
I had some experience with it.
...
Anyway--the PD7X is a great option if you're looking for something  
of its kind.


Good to hear it! I understand the PD70X is much the same but even  
better.



Now, the absolute star of the trip was my Domke bag. It is a F803
satchel which I've had for four years or so. It will fit the istD,
four lenses, and the Powerbook 12' without problems (I wouldn't always
take the laptop with me, but sometimes I did). It doesn't look like a
camera bag, and it ages beautifully, just like a good pair of jeans.


Yes! The Domke F803 is one of my all-time favorite bags. I don't  
carry a laptop in mine, good to hear the PB 12" fits so easily, as I  
usually use it when I'm carrying a kit including two bodies plus four  
lenses and all the accessory associated with that. I've had mine for  
about a decade now ...


My partner was so enamored of using it when I wasn't, I was afraid  
he'd try to nab it ...

I bought him one as a birthday present to prevent that!  ;-)

Godfrey

Re: PESOs: The Real Southwest

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Aug 10, 2005, at 6:27 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote:


Real Southwest 1:
http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/535671/display/3704299


I like this composition in general. It's odd (to me) to see it in  
color, though ... I think it would be a little better in a grittier  
B&W rendering. The other thing is that the little piece of a sign  
popping up over the mailbox is distracting. A slightly lower point of  
view would have hidden it and perhaps have kept the mailbox from  
looking like it was about to fall over on this side as well.



Real Southwest 2:
http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/535671/display/3704304


Hm. This one doesn't do too much for me. A flatter perspective to the  
building to enhance its graphic qualities, perhaps, might have worked  
better.


Godfrey

Check out the bipod

[William Robb]

http://k43.pbase.com/v3/20/519320/1/46279745.IMG_212201.jpg

William Robb

Travels of AnnSan

[William Robb]

Ann has arrived in Regina, and has been fed and watered.

William Robb

Re: PESOs: The Real Southwest

[Mat Maessen]

I love the composition on the mailbox picture. Conveys the remoteness
very effectively.

I need to practice wide-angle composition more...

-Mat

Re: Lightseeker

[keithw]

Scott Loveless wrote:


Thanks, Keith.  My query was most definitely not about guns and
hunting, but about the usability/quality/etc. of the Pentax
Lightseeker scopes.  Regardless, I've been hunting for quite a while
without one and with my current set-up (500c 20ga. with a rifled slug
barrel) I can produce a 6 inch pattern at 100 yards with the right
ammunition.  I'd simply like to tighten this up.  In my former life, I
hunted in the Ozarks of Missouri and Arkansas.  It's far too dense
there to get much benefit from a scope.  I'll be endangering fellow
hunters in Pennsylvania this year.  The brush is fairly dense here as
well, but there are plenty of open areas as well.  So I'm shopping for
low power scopes.  I'd never even think of shooting at a deer more
than about 50 yards out with my rig.  But the scope may make a very
clean kill a bit more likely.  Since this IS the Pentax Discuss
Mailing List, I thought I'd ask about the Pentax scopes hoping that
someone may have some experience with them.  Online comparisons of
Pentax vs. other brands are scarce and uninformative.  I'm quite
prepared for the flak and have donned appropriately thick skin.   
Thanks again for your feedback.


Fair and reasonable response. thanks.

I can't help you with respect to the Pentax scope.
However, I've been so pleased with all my Pentax gear over the years, I 
would have no hesitancy at all to buy one!


I've spent a lot of time with Burris low magnification scopes, and 
they're excellent. I usually use a pistol scope, mounted forward. Great 
eye relief and all you normally need in magnification.


I would expect Peantx to have made a beautiful piece of glass, and for 
it to perform well.


keith

Re: PESO: Great Expectations

[E.R.N. Reed]

frank theriault wrote:


On 8/9/05, E.R.N. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 


It's what the F.A. stands for in certain university degrees.


ERNR
always happy to help
   



Actually, that's a heck of a good answer!  (even though you may have
been kidding around).
 

Well I was kidding but I also knew it was true. Thanks for considering 
it a "good" answer in addition to being true.



In that context, it distinguishes Fine Art from "Arts", as in what one
studies to get a Bachelor of Arts.  Of course, the problem is, in the
context of outside of academia, one rarely thinks of history,
geography, philosphy and econmics as "arts", so how far does it BFA
vs. BA get us in the long run?  

frank (who has a B.A., but still doesn't know anything about "art" )
 

I make no claims about my actual knowledge, but I have a Bachelor of 
Science -- and will stipulate without comment that the abbreviation for 
same, here in the USA, is B.S.

CompactDrive PD7X impressions

[Juan Buhler]

I had promised long ago that I'd tell my impressions of the PD7X once
I had some experience with it.

I am now back in San Francisco, in a small hiatus from four months of
travelling. I spent June and July backpacking in Spain, with one small
detour to the Czech Republic and Poland.

The PD7X, with an 80Gb drive was my main storage during this time. I
also had with me my 12' Powerbook and 40Gb ipod.

I took two CF cards, 2Gb and 1Gb. Funny thing is, I never filled both
of them in the field. This means that I never actually had to use the
PD7X's card reader or use the drive while battery-powered. Other than
that, my impression is largely the same as other people's: It does the
job well, the use of AA batteries (which the PD7X will recharge when
plugged) is a huge plus if you have a Pentax DSLR, and the battery
door is kind of flimsy.

I'd recommend the PD7X to anyone, as a great, cheap storage-on-the-way solution.

Now, the absolute star of the trip was my Domke bag. It is a F803
satchel which I've had for four years or so. It will fit the istD,
four lenses, and the Powerbook 12' without problems (I wouldn't always
take the laptop with me, but sometimes I did). It doesn't look like a
camera bag, and it ages beautifully, just like a good pair of jeans.

Anyway--the PD7X is a great option if you're looking for something of its kind.

j

-- 
Juan Buhler
http://www.jbuhler.com
photoblog at http://photoblog.jbuhler.com

[Fwd: RE: PESOs: The Real Southwest]

[Joseph Tainter]

Okay, maybe I need to go into this a bit more deeply.

Real Southwest 1:

http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/535671/display/3704299

The Navajo (this is part of their land) find beauty in even such a 
place. I do too. Above the mailbox is a bit of the formation that 
elsewhere is called the Painted Desert. Off in the distance is Sleeping 
Ute Mountain. The road leads to it. Look at the clouds building in the 
blue sky. I find beauty in the majesty of this open, isolated place, 
where on one else is around.


Real Southwest 2:

http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/535671/display/3704304

A lot of people in this part of the country lead a low maintenance/low 
overhead life. It is, in part, because of poverty. But not entirely. How 
to explain it? It is just the way of life. Some people will work in the 
city, then on weekends go back to a place that looks like this. It is 
their home, and they love it. I love this area and enjoy photographing 
it, including (sometimes especially) this part of it. Buildings such as 
this fit (blend, really) into the landscape like buildings in few other 
places I have visited.


Some years ago I talked with a woman who lives in Maryland. She had just 
been to visit the Hopi Indian Reservation in northeastern Arizona. She 
hadn't liked it. I asked: Why not? She couldn't quite put it into words, 
but after some prompting she admitted being bothered by the fact that 
they don't have front lawns. At that point I gave up trying to talk to 
her. Her experience of life was just too narrow, and she couldn't grow 
beyond that. I think her problem was in assuming that aspiring to an 
American home, with a front lawn, would be natural for everyone. Not so. 
Many people in the Southwest would not have such a home even though they 
can afford it.


That said, I do realize that people who live in greener parts of the 
world sometimes find the Southwest too stark and brown.


Tony Hillerman, one of our novelists, tells a story about talking to a 
fellow on a bus while traveling through some empty New Mexico landscape. 
The guy lived in this state but said he didn't like it. Hillerman asked 
him why not. He replied that it was too isolated and stark (or something 
along those lines). Hillerman's comment in his essay was that this was 
precisely why he does live here. Some of us just like it.


On PDML I have posted a photo or two showing how people live in Mali. 
The purpose isn't to show their poverty, but how wonderfully they cope 
with a life that most of us would find difficult. (Incidentally, poverty 
is relative to information. Most Malians are wonderfully happy and 
unaware that they are what we would call "poor.")


The Southwest is a quirky place. If I was just visiting here, I would 
want to find places such as in these photos, to experience the place 
whole. When in former East Germany and the Czech Republic recently I 
took several photos of once beautiful buildings that were allowed to 
decay in the Soviet era. I may inflict one or two of those on the list 
when I get around to it. I find beauty in their decay.


Joe

 Original Message 
Subject: RE: PESOs: The Real Southwest
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 21:03:37 -0600
From: Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net

Hi Joe,


You asked for reactions so I suppose you won't mind a negative one. To
be truthful, I don't care for either one. While they may be an accurate
representation of the less beautiful, less fortunate side of the
American Southwest, I feel that I see enough ugliness in the world as it
is, that I don't need to see more.

As you obviously know there's plenty of beautiful scenes and vistas in
those areas that are uplifting. It's not that I want to close my eyes to
reality, it's just that I would rather vicariously experience those
mindblowingly beautiful slices of your trips as opposed to the less
pretty ones.

No offense intended.

Tom C.

--

Your reaction is fine, Tom. Sorry if I inflicted some ugliness on you.
But did you read my postscript?

I enjoy both of these places. They are not conventionally beautiful, but
I find them interesting, and enjoyable thus. I am fascinated by the
mailbox. The last time I drove by that intersection was five years ago,
and I don't recall it being there.

Joe

RE: PESOs: The Real Southwest

[Tom C]

That would be interesting if it's a new mailbox.  Of course here in Idaho, 
nary a sign lacks a bullet hole once your five miles out of town.


Tom C.




From: Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: RE: PESOs: The Real Southwest
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 21:03:37 -0600

Hi Joe,


You asked for reactions so I suppose you won't mind a negative one. To be 
truthful, I don't care for either one. While they may be an accurate 
representation of the less beautiful, less fortunate side of the American 
Southwest, I feel that I see enough ugliness in the world as it is, that I 
don't need to see more.


As you obviously know there's plenty of beautiful scenes and vistas in 
those areas that are uplifting. It's not that I want to close my eyes to 
reality, it's just that I would rather vicariously experience those 
mindblowingly beautiful slices of your trips as opposed to the less pretty 
ones.


No offense intended.

Tom C.

--

Your reaction is fine, Tom. Sorry if I inflicted some ugliness on you. But 
did you read my postscript?


I enjoy both of these places. They are not conventionally beautiful, but I 
find them interesting, and enjoyable thus. I am fascinated by the mailbox. 
The last time I drove by that intersection was five years ago, and I don't 
recall it being there.


Joe

Re: PESOs: The Real Southwest

[Tom C]

Thanks Herb.  I'll go take a look at it.

I do enjoy ghost towns in the west and such, as well as pictures like 
Frank's abandoned Jaguar shot.


Tom C.




From: "Herb Chong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: 
Subject: Re: PESOs: The Real Southwest
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 22:34:56 -0400

Abandoned America is a photo book about old things that have been left for 
a long time. the five sections are: Houses and Barns, Factories and 
Equipment, Vehicles, Signs and Facades, and Kaleidoscope. it's widely 
available from many bookstores. the most famous picture is the cover 
picture, an old truck completely covered in plants and painted with the 
sign "Not For Sale". Joe's pictures are from that genre.


Herb
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: PESOs: The Real Southwest



No.  What's in it?

My overall reaction is that I (me personally) don't go out looking for... 
depressing or sad views of the world... nor do I enjoy seeing them.  I see 
plenty without trying.


Not a criticism of the photos or the subject matter, just a reaction.

Re: PESOs: The Real Southwest

[Jack Davis]

Mailbox shot interesting as sort of a context
surprise.
Like the monochrome aspect of both.

Jack

--- Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Don't blame me. Shel and Bruce inspired me to take
> and post these.
> 
> Real Southwest 1:
> 
>
http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/535671/display/3704299
> 
> Real Southwest 2:
> 
>
http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/535671/display/3704304
> 
> Reactions welcome.
> 
> Joe
> 
> P.S. I like both of these places.
> 
> 





Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page 
http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs 
 

RE: PESOs: The Real Southwest

[Joseph Tainter]

Hi Joe,


You asked for reactions so I suppose you won't mind a negative one. To 
be truthful, I don't care for either one. While they may be an accurate 
representation of the less beautiful, less fortunate side of the 
American Southwest, I feel that I see enough ugliness in the world as it 
is, that I don't need to see more.


As you obviously know there's plenty of beautiful scenes and vistas in 
those areas that are uplifting. It's not that I want to close my eyes to 
reality, it's just that I would rather vicariously experience those 
mindblowingly beautiful slices of your trips as opposed to the less 
pretty ones.


No offense intended.

Tom C.

--

Your reaction is fine, Tom. Sorry if I inflicted some ugliness on you. 
But did you read my postscript?


I enjoy both of these places. They are not conventionally beautiful, but 
I find them interesting, and enjoyable thus. I am fascinated by the 
mailbox. The last time I drove by that intersection was five years ago, 
and I don't recall it being there.


Joe

Re: PESOs: The Real Southwest

[Herb Chong]

Abandoned America is a photo book about old things that have been left for a 
long time. the five sections are: Houses and Barns, Factories and Equipment, 
Vehicles, Signs and Facades, and Kaleidoscope. it's widely available from 
many bookstores. the most famous picture is the cover picture, an old truck 
completely covered in plants and painted with the sign "Not For Sale". Joe's 
pictures are from that genre.


Herb
- Original Message - 
From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: PESOs: The Real Southwest



No.  What's in it?

My overall reaction is that I (me personally) don't go out looking for... 
depressing or sad views of the world... nor do I enjoy seeing them.  I see 
plenty without trying.


Not a criticism of the photos or the subject matter, just a reaction.

Re: PESOs: The Real Southwest

[Tom C]

No.  What's in it?

My overall reaction is that I (me personally) don't go out looking for... 
depressing or sad views of the world... nor do I enjoy seeing them.  I see 
plenty without trying.


Not a criticism of the photos or the subject matter, just a reaction.

Tom C.




From: "Herb Chong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: 
Subject: Re: PESOs: The Real Southwest
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 21:58:14 -0400

have you seen Abandoned America by Steve Gottlieb?

Herb...
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 9:53 PM
Subject: RE: PESOs: The Real Southwest



Hi Joe,

You asked for reactions so I suppose you won't mind a negative one.  To be 
truthful,  I don't care for either one.  While they may be an accurate 
representation of the less beautiful, less fortunate side of the American 
Southwest, I feel that I see enough ugliness in the world as it is, that I 
don't need to see more.


As you obviously know there's plenty of beautiful scenes and vistas in 
those areas that are uplifting.It's not that I want to close my eyes 
to reality, it's just that I would rather vicariously experience those 
mindblowingly beautiful slices of your trips as opposed to the less pretty 
ones.


No offense intended.

Re: PESOs: The Real Southwest

[Paul Stenquist]

Nice work Joe. Love the mailbox in that wide vista. Brings it all down 
to earth, doesn't it? Very good.

Paul
On Aug 10, 2005, at 9:27 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote:


Don't blame me. Shel and Bruce inspired me to take and post these.

Real Southwest 1:

http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/535671/display/3704299

Real Southwest 2:

http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/535671/display/3704304

Reactions welcome.

Joe

P.S. I like both of these places.

Re: Lightseeker

[Scott Loveless]

Thanks, Keith.  My query was most definitely not about guns and
hunting, but about the usability/quality/etc. of the Pentax
Lightseeker scopes.  Regardless, I've been hunting for quite a while
without one and with my current set-up (500c 20ga. with a rifled slug
barrel) I can produce a 6 inch pattern at 100 yards with the right
ammunition.  I'd simply like to tighten this up.  In my former life, I
hunted in the Ozarks of Missouri and Arkansas.  It's far too dense
there to get much benefit from a scope.  I'll be endangering fellow
hunters in Pennsylvania this year.  The brush is fairly dense here as
well, but there are plenty of open areas as well.  So I'm shopping for
low power scopes.  I'd never even think of shooting at a deer more
than about 50 yards out with my rig.  But the scope may make a very
clean kill a bit more likely.  Since this IS the Pentax Discuss
Mailing List, I thought I'd ask about the Pentax scopes hoping that
someone may have some experience with them.  Online comparisons of
Pentax vs. other brands are scarce and uninformative.  I'm quite
prepared for the flak and have donned appropriately thick skin.   
Thanks again for your feedback.

On 8/10/05, keithw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Scott Loveless wrote:
> 
> > Howdy, gang!
> >
> > I've been thinking about mounting a scope on my slug gun for the
> > upcoming annual deer massacre.  Would anyone have an opinion about the
> > Pentax Lightseeker scopes?  I'm specifically considering the SG 2.5x.
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> 
> 
> Hi Scott...
> 
> Personal opinion?
> 
> The first opinion is, you will not like the response you get from THIS
> list. I hope you don't find out the hard way.
> 
> The second opinion is as follows:
> 
> A shotgun is not a rifle, accuracy wise.
> Some of them will quite remarkably place one slug after another in very
> close proximity to one other, but...
> Not consistently at distances beyond say 45-55 yards.
> I personally think deer should be taken within that range, to assure
> humane kills.
> That assumes eastern and midwestern U.S. woods, cover, etc.
> You almost HAVE to be in that range or less to be able to miss all the
> shrubs and trees and heavy brush, to get the clean shot.
> In those conditions, a 2.5X scope is sort of over-reaching.
> I'd use as large an objective diameter scope I could find, for
> light-gathering, and a power consistent with the accuracy of a shotgun,
> say 1.5 or 1.75 power, max.
> 
> As you go further west and the country opens up, you can extend the
> range and go for the higher power scopes, but now you're making
> incursions into rifle territory.
> Again, it's only a shotgun. Use your 2.5X scope. Maybe a shade more, but
> hopefully you're not going for harvests at over 75 yards or so.
> The accuracy is not there, even if you DO have a ping-pong ball-sized slug!
> 
> All strictly my own opinion and worth every cent you paid for the
> advice! ;-)
> You may contact me privately if the flak gets too thick...
> 
> As for me, I'm butting out of this thread immediately and will not
> discuss it further online.
> I'll answer anyone via private email, but I refuse to get all red-faced
> and upset over guns and hunting vs. tree-hugger liberals again.
> Hunting and guns absolutely have their place, but not on the Pentax list!
> 
> keith whaley
> 
> 


-- 
Scott Loveless
http://www.twosixteen.com

--
"You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman

Re: PESOs: The Real Southwest

[Herb Chong]

have you seen Abandoned America by Steve Gottlieb?

Herb...
- Original Message - 
From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 9:53 PM
Subject: RE: PESOs: The Real Southwest



Hi Joe,

You asked for reactions so I suppose you won't mind a negative one.  To be 
truthful,  I don't care for either one.  While they may be an accurate 
representation of the less beautiful, less fortunate side of the American 
Southwest, I feel that I see enough ugliness in the world as it is, that I 
don't need to see more.


As you obviously know there's plenty of beautiful scenes and vistas in 
those areas that are uplifting.It's not that I want to close my eyes 
to reality, it's just that I would rather vicariously experience those 
mindblowingly beautiful slices of your trips as opposed to the less pretty 
ones.


No offense intended.

RE: PESOs: The Real Southwest

[Tom C]

Hi Joe,

You asked for reactions so I suppose you won't mind a negative one.  To be 
truthful,  I don't care for either one.  While they may be an accurate 
representation of the less beautiful, less fortunate side of the American 
Southwest, I feel that I see enough ugliness in the world as it is, that I 
don't need to see more.


As you obviously know there's plenty of beautiful scenes and vistas in those 
areas that are uplifting.It's not that I want to close my eyes to 
reality, it's just that I would rather vicariously experience those 
mindblowingly beautiful slices of your trips as opposed to the less pretty 
ones.


No offense intended.

Tom C.




From: Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: PESOs: The Real Southwest
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 19:27:02 -0600

Don't blame me. Shel and Bruce inspired me to take and post these.

Real Southwest 1:

http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/535671/display/3704299

Real Southwest 2:

http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/535671/display/3704304

Reactions welcome.

Joe

P.S. I like both of these places.

Re: PESOs: The Real Southwest

[Powell Hargrave]

>Real Southwest 1:
>
>http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/535671/display/3704299

Damn but they build them mail boxes tough out there!
Or are the boy only usin' 22 short this year?

Powell

PS: Nice pitchers Joe 

Re: PAW: People & Portraits #27 - GDG

[Powell Hargrave]

Love it!  Even the cannon is looking elsewhere.

Powell

>Continuing inexorably on my quest to sort, collate, organize and  
>process UK-Isle of Man trip photos, I discovered this one...
>
>   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/27.htm
>
>Comments, critique, flames always appreciated.
>
>enjoy,
>Godfrey
>

PESOs: The Real Southwest

[Joseph Tainter]

Don't blame me. Shel and Bruce inspired me to take and post these.

Real Southwest 1:

http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/535671/display/3704299

Real Southwest 2:

http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/535671/display/3704304

Reactions welcome.

Joe

P.S. I like both of these places.

Re: Lightseeker

[keithw]

Scott Loveless wrote:


Howdy, gang!

I've been thinking about mounting a scope on my slug gun for the
upcoming annual deer massacre.  Would anyone have an opinion about the
Pentax Lightseeker scopes?  I'm specifically considering the SG 2.5x.

Thanks in advance!



Hi Scott...

Personal opinion?

The first opinion is, you will not like the response you get from THIS 
list. I hope you don't find out the hard way.


The second opinion is as follows:

A shotgun is not a rifle, accuracy wise.
Some of them will quite remarkably place one slug after another in very 
close proximity to one other, but...

Not consistently at distances beyond say 45-55 yards.
I personally think deer should be taken within that range, to assure 
humane kills.

That assumes eastern and midwestern U.S. woods, cover, etc.
You almost HAVE to be in that range or less to be able to miss all the 
shrubs and trees and heavy brush, to get the clean shot.

In those conditions, a 2.5X scope is sort of over-reaching.
I'd use as large an objective diameter scope I could find, for 
light-gathering, and a power consistent with the accuracy of a shotgun, 
say 1.5 or 1.75 power, max.


As you go further west and the country opens up, you can extend the 
range and go for the higher power scopes, but now you're making 
incursions into rifle territory.
Again, it's only a shotgun. Use your 2.5X scope. Maybe a shade more, but 
hopefully you're not going for harvests at over 75 yards or so.

The accuracy is not there, even if you DO have a ping-pong ball-sized slug!

All strictly my own opinion and worth every cent you paid for the 
advice! ;-)

You may contact me privately if the flak gets too thick...

As for me, I'm butting out of this thread immediately and will not 
discuss it further online.
I'll answer anyone via private email, but I refuse to get all red-faced 
and upset over guns and hunting vs. tree-hugger liberals again.

Hunting and guns absolutely have their place, but not on the Pentax list!

keith whaley

PAW: People & Portraits #27 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Continuing inexorably on my quest to sort, collate, organize and  
process UK-Isle of Man trip photos, I discovered this one...


  http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/27.htm

Comments, critique, flames always appreciated.

enjoy,
Godfrey

CIPA revises camera manufacturing forecasts sharply downwards

[Herb Chong]

CIPA has revised it's yearly production forecasts for digital cameras 
sharply downwards. instead of almost 21% growth in production (and sales) 
this year, it's now expecting just over 8% growth. domestic (Japanese) 
shipments are expected to drop, the first annual drop ever, while all 
overseas markets are going to show markedly slower growth than originally 
forecast.


Herb 

Lightseeker

[Scott Loveless]

Howdy, gang!

I've been thinking about mounting a scope on my slug gun for the
upcoming annual deer massacre.  Would anyone have an opinion about the
Pentax Lightseeker scopes?  I'm specifically considering the SG 2.5x.

Thanks in advance!

-- 
Scott Loveless
http://www.twosixteen.com

--
"You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman

Re: OT: Darwin award candidate

[Tom C]

Natural selection apparently uses the corporate model.  It promotes idiots.  
Just look around.


Tom C.




From: keithw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: Darwin award candidate
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 17:06:29 -0700

John Francis wrote:

On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 06:45:54PM -0400, Tom Reese wrote:


Fred wrote:



...I don't really care for the name of the (Darwin)
award.  Unless it is referring to someone other than Charles Darwin the
biologist, then in my opinion it is naming an award for dummies after a
brilliant minded scientist. (I just thought I'd point that out...)


It is named after Charles Darwin and for good reason. Those who receive 
the award are recognized for their outstanding achievement in proving the 
theory of natural selection.



That would only be true if the recipients attained award
status before they were old enough to pass on their genes.
Unfortunately this is rarely the case.


Be thankful for small favors!

keith

Re: PESO: Great Expectations

[frank theriault]

On 8/9/05, E.R.N. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> >
> It's what the F.A. stands for in certain university degrees.
> 
> 
> ERNR
> always happy to help

Actually, that's a heck of a good answer!  (even though you may have
been kidding around).

In that context, it distinguishes Fine Art from "Arts", as in what one
studies to get a Bachelor of Arts.  Of course, the problem is, in the
context of outside of academia, one rarely thinks of history,
geography, philosphy and econmics as "arts", so how far does it BFA
vs. BA get us in the long run?  

frank (who has a B.A., but still doesn't know anything about "art" )


-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: OT: Darwin award candidate

[keithw]

John Francis wrote:

On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 06:45:54PM -0400, Tom Reese wrote:


Fred wrote:



...I don't really care for the name of the (Darwin)
award.  Unless it is referring to someone other than Charles Darwin the
biologist, then in my opinion it is naming an award for dummies after a
brilliant minded scientist. (I just thought I'd point that out...)


It is named after Charles Darwin and for good reason. Those who receive 
the award are recognized for their outstanding achievement in proving 
the theory of natural selection.



That would only be true if the recipients attained award
status before they were old enough to pass on their genes.
Unfortunately this is rarely the case.


Be thankful for small favors!

keith

Re: OT - Upping the anti

[Herb Chong]

D2X sales were twice projected. that is what made the difference. D70 sales 
were what they expected.


Herb
- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: OT - Upping the anti



Agreed. But there's not much anyone can do about it until Pentax gets
their own CMOS sensor operation on line. I hear perhaps next year. Even
then, the money is at the low end of the market. I've heard from
knowledgeable sources that Nikon could have been in bankruptcy if not
for the D70.

Re: OT - Upping the anti

[Mark Roberts]

Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On 10/8/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>Not that big a deal to Pentax engineers because Pentax isn't in the
>>$3500 DSLR market. 
>
>Sorry Mark - they should be! Even if they only build couple a thousand of
>the damned things. They should be.

Agreed. But there's not much anyone can do about it until Pentax gets
their own CMOS sensor operation on line. I hear perhaps next year. Even
then, the money is at the low end of the market. I've heard from
knowledgeable sources that Nikon could have been in bankruptcy if not
for the D70.

 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

RE: Zoo Adventures

[Evan Hanson]

Yikes

Re: OT - Upping the anti

[Herb Chong]

there is one close enough. it's in the Leica R digital back.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: OT - Upping the anti


Or putting pressure on Sony and Kodak to come up with a suitable  
sensor for them.

Re: OT - Upping the anti

[Herb Chong]

they are where they are they are now partly because they aren't in that 
market.


Herb
- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: OT - Upping the anti



Not that big a deal to Pentax engineers because Pentax isn't in the
$3500 DSLR market. 

Re: OT - Upping the anti

[Herb Chong]

all things being equal, yes. however, not all things are equal, as Nikon is 
proving. it's not as good as a full frame sensor, but noise is VERY good on 
the Nikon.


Herb
- Original Message - 
From: "Toralf Lund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: OT - Upping the anti


Surely a 12Mp 24x36 sensor has several advantages over a, what is it, 
16x24 12mp one? I mean, even disregarding the crop vs full-frame 
consideration, bigger is still better in many ways, isn't it?

Re: OT - Upping the anti

[Herb Chong]

the cost savings on a camera of that price is negligible. they can offer it 
on a $300 body. leaving it off of a $3500 body is marketing and not profits.


Herb
- Original Message - 
From: "Toralf Lund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: OT - Upping the anti



Sometimes the popup flash is useful for a tiny bit of fill.


Yes, but I could easily live without it, especially if it reduced the 
price of the camera, or I could trade it in for something else, like a 
full frame sensor (well that would not be a direct swap, I guess) or 
mechanical aperture coupling. (In the case of Pentaxes, obviously.)

Re: OT - Upping the anti

[Herb Chong]

that's 3 out of 5.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "pentax list" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 11:56 AM
Subject: OT - Upping the anti



Speculation or a leak?

web page:



PDF download in Spanish:

Re: Another day at the office

[Herb Chong]

Cotty, you need to use a longer telephoto lens.

Herb...

Re: PESO: Great Expectations

[Cotty]

On 10/8/05, keithw, discombobulated, unleashed:

>P. J. Alling wrote:
>
>> The ones around here are small bags you put your hand in use as a mitten 
>> of a sort, when the product is firmly in your grip you turn them inside 
>> out and tie the top.
>
>Right.
>
>And then?

Stuff em back up the shute they came from. Arf.




Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
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Re: OT - Upping the anti

[Mark Roberts]

Tom Reese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Removing the popup flash would also seemingly eliminate wireless remote 
>flash.

Or at least force you to buy *two* flash units in order to do it. Good
point. I love being able to do off-camera flash without cables.
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Re: OT: Darwin award candidate

[John Francis]

On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 06:45:54PM -0400, Tom Reese wrote:
> Fred wrote:
> 
> >...I don't really care for the name of the (Darwin)
> >award.  Unless it is referring to someone other than Charles Darwin the
> >biologist, then in my opinion it is naming an award for dummies after a
> >brilliant minded scientist. (I just thought I'd point that out...)
> 
> It is named after Charles Darwin and for good reason. Those who receive 
> the award are recognized for their outstanding achievement in proving 
> the theory of natural selection.

That would only be true if the recipients attained award
status before they were old enough to pass on their genes.
Unfortunately this is rarely the case.

Re: OT - Upping the anti

[Cotty]

On 10/8/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Not that big a deal to Pentax engineers because Pentax isn't in the
>$3500 DSLR market. 

Sorry Mark - they should be! Even if they only build couple a thousand of
the damned things. They should be.




Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_

Re: OT - Upping the anti

[Mark Roberts]

Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On Aug 10, 2005, at 3:13 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>
>> Not that big a deal to Pentax engineers because Pentax isn't in the
>> $3500 DSLR market. Nikon engineers, on the other hand, are probably
>> scared stiff (as they should be).
>
>Or putting pressure on Sony and Kodak to come up with a suitable  
>sensor for them.

...and possibly available to other camera manufacturers. :)
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Re: 67 sighting

[Cotty]

On 11/8/05, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Warning, Mischa is wearing a pretty revealing outfit. If that upsets 
>you, don't click below.
>
>http://people.freenet.de/wildehilde/mischa/barton-malibu-006.jpg

Now *that's* what I call a French flag!

Oh the glamourous life of a model ;-)




Cheers,
  Cotty


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||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
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_

Re: More Frankencam

[Cotty]

On 10/8/05, Kostas Kavoussanakis, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Enjoy, Cotters. What kind of automation are you getting out of the 
>combo? Stop-down metering and no A?

Stop-down metering with either manual or aperture priority auto. It's
quite accurate. Works best with the A*85 1.4 because I tend to use that
wide open. ISO down to 100 and outside the shutter speed is still high on
a bright day. As long as I can get those eyes in focus :-)



Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_

Re: OT - Upping the anti

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Aug 10, 2005, at 3:42 PM, Tom Reese wrote:

Removing the popup flash would also seemingly eliminate wireless  
remote flash.


Not eliminate it but certainly make it a bit less convenient. The DS  
body right now does not support wireless flash control with the built- 
in flash, but supports it just fine with two dedicated flashes... one  
mounted on the body.


Godfrey

Re: OT - Upping the anti

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Great for Canon users, doesn't help if you don't own Canon  
Glass.  If
I were starting from scratch I don't think I'd care if the sensor  
was

APS sized, and then the 12mp Nikon would be just fine.


Surely a 12Mp 24x36 sensor has several advantages over a, what is it,
16x24 12mp one? I mean, even disregarding the crop vs full-frame
consideration, bigger is still better in many ways, isn't it?


Yes indeed. One has only to see some large prints from a Canon 1D  
(only

4 megapixels but 1.3 crop factor) to see how true this is.


The advantage of a larger sensor with the same total resolution is  
better signal to noise ratio, more light gathering power thus higher  
ISO, etc. This has to be balanced against higher cost, larger/heavier  
lenses, and effective quality for the output print size you're  
looking for.


There is no disputing that a larger sensor has its advantages, but  
one must also acknowledge its disadvantages and consider whether it  
is actually worth the extra money. This new Canon body is going to  
sell at the stupendously low price of near $3500 ... How many people  
on this mailing list are prepared to spend that for a body tomorrow?  
How about $3000? $2000? $1500?


If you really really think that nothing less expensive will do an  
adequate job for your particular pleasure, well, get ready to ante  
up. I might be ready to spring for a $1500 body sometime soon if the  
advantage in it is great enough, but a $3500 body would require a  
good bit more potential return before it would be worth it.


Godfrey

Re: More Frankencam

[Cotty]

On 10/8/05, Andre Langevin, discombobulated, unleashed:

>On very few lenses it is possible. I've been able to slightly grind 
>(less than 1 mm) a pre-set (without any auto mechanism) Rokkor 100/4 
>and will glue a grinded Pentax screw reverse adapter on it, when I 
>can go to the local cooperative metal shop after holiday.  Because of 
>lack of a collimater, I just get sure I am a little bit past infinity 
>at the inf mark.  Only set stop tele lenses can be adapted this way.

VERY interesting. Thanks Andre. If you get the time, diagrams and/or pics
would be appreciated.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
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Re: OT - Upping the anti

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Aug 10, 2005, at 3:13 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:


Not that big a deal to Pentax engineers because Pentax isn't in the
$3500 DSLR market. Nikon engineers, on the other hand, are probably
scared stiff (as they should be).


Or putting pressure on Sony and Kodak to come up with a suitable  
sensor for them.


Godfrey

Re: OT: Darwin award candidate

[Tom Reese]

Fred wrote:


...I don't really care for the name of the (Darwin)
award.  Unless it is referring to someone other than Charles Darwin the
biologist, then in my opinion it is naming an award for dummies after a
brilliant minded scientist. (I just thought I'd point that out...)


It is named after Charles Darwin and for good reason. Those who receive 
the award are recognized for their outstanding achievement in proving 
the theory of natural selection.


Tom Reese

Re: OT - Upping the anti

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Aug 10, 2005, at 1:11 PM, Toralf Lund wrote:

Yes, but I could easily live without it, especially if it reduced  
the price of the camera, or I could trade it in for something else,  
like a full frame sensor (well that would not be a direct swap, I  
guess) or mechanical aperture coupling. (In the case of Pentaxes,  
obviously.)


On many of the rare occasions that I need flash, it's all the flash I  
need. Instead of carrying an external flash unit for those occasions,  
I find it worth the small initial increase in price. It surely  
doesn't add much.


The  custom functions on the Canon are extensive, much more so  
than on the  *ist D/DS/DL, but most of what they offer is quite  
useful for various  people.


Well, I haven't actually tried configuring a Canon camera, so I  
have idea what they do, but 21 functions do seem like a lot... The  
problem with having so many of course arises if you don't use most  
of them; having so many extra options tends to make it a lot harder  
to track down you do want to change.


I had the Canon 10D for a year and a half before I bought the DS.  
While I rarely used many of the CF options, I did configure the  
camera to suit my use once or twice: the options in customizing it to  
taste were very welcome. You don't normally do these sorts of things  
in the field very often, so you usually are sitting by your desk with  
the instruction manual at hand when you want to see if there's a  
better configuration.


The DS custom functions are very simple by comparison. More or less  
useful is a moot point; the 10D's options cover a lot more things  
than the DS', and thus the 10D/20D/etc are more flexible cameras.


Of course, if you don't feel the need for any of the CF options, you  
don't have to look at them at all. I know several 10D users who never  
once looked at any of the CF options.


They shouldn't be confused with exposure program presets,  
however,  which are mostly just a waste of space on the mode  
selector dial for  me. On either camera. ;-)


You mean the "picture modes". Yep, I wouldn't miss those one bit if  
they were removed. Does anyone here actually ever use them? Or will  
any users of a 3500 euro-camera like that new Canon?


Yes: "picture modes" = exposure program presets.

The only one of merit on the DS is the Sports preset because it is  
the only way that you can obtain C-AF with the DS body. The D has a  
position on the AF-MF selector switch, and the DL implements a C-AF  
switch in the menu system. The DS is missing the ability to use C-AF  
in all exposure modes ... not a heartbreaker far as I'm concerned,  
but something I occasionally miss.


I don't use any of the others. I'm usually using Av, P, Tv or M  
exposure mode.


Godfrey

Re: OT - Upping the anti

[Tom Reese]

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

On Aug 10, 2005, at 11:51 AM, Toralf Lund wrote:


As long as they "downgrade" the right things, I'm all for it.

I notice that Canon has removed the pop-up flash on the body  
discussed here. If they got rid of the "21 custom functions with 59  
values" (or whatever), too, I might start getting interested...



Sometimes the popup flash is useful for a tiny bit of fill. The  custom 
functions on the Canon are extensive, much more so than on the  *ist 
D/DS/DL, but most of what they offer is quite useful for various  people.


Removing the popup flash would also seemingly eliminate wireless remote 
flash.


Tom Reese

Lens repair

[Jim Hemenway]

Are there any Takumar lens repair persons on the list?

Jim

Re: OT - Upping the anti

[Mark Roberts]

Toralf Lund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>P. J. Alling wrote:
>
>> Great for Canon users, doesn't help if you don't own Canon Glass.  If 
>> I were starting from scratch I don't think I'd care if the sensor was 
>> APS sized, and then the 12mp Nikon would be just fine.
>
>Surely a 12Mp 24x36 sensor has several advantages over a, what is it, 
>16x24 12mp one? I mean, even disregarding the crop vs full-frame 
>consideration, bigger is still better in many ways, isn't it?

Yes indeed. One has only to see some large prints from a Canon 1D (only
4 megapixels but 1.3 crop factor) to see how true this is.
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Re: OT - Upping the anti

[Mark Roberts]

"P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Probably, "Why won't management let us build one?"

More likely: "Canon's in the unique position of designing and
manufacturing their own sensors."

Not that big a deal to Pentax engineers because Pentax isn't in the
$3500 DSLR market. Nikon engineers, on the other hand, are probably
scared stiff (as they should be).


>Gonz wrote:
>
>> I can't imagine what Pentax engineers must feel like when they see 
>> something like this.
>>
>> Cotty wrote:
>>
>>> Speculation or a leak?
>>>
>>> web page:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> PDF download in Spanish:
>>>
>>> 

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Re: OT - Upping the anti

[Toralf Lund]

P. J. Alling wrote:

Great for Canon users, doesn't help if you don't own Canon Glass.  If 
I were starting from scratch I don't think I'd care if the sensor was 
APS sized, and then the 12mp Nikon would be just fine.


Surely a 12Mp 24x36 sensor has several advantages over a, what is it, 
16x24 12mp one? I mean, even disregarding the crop vs full-frame 
consideration, bigger is still better in many ways, isn't it?




Tom C wrote:


Price range is close to right and FF!

Tom C.




From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: "pentax list" 
Subject: OT - Upping the anti
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 16:56:43 +0100

Speculation or a leak?

web page:



PDF download in Spanish:






Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: OT - Upping the anti

[P. J. Alling]

The engineers know how to run, the sales department can barely crawl. 


Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:


On Wed, 10 Aug 2005, P. J. Alling wrote:


Probably, "Why won't management let us build one?"



"Because management knows better than let you run when you can barely 
walk".


Kostas





--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: PESO: Great Expectations

[P. J. Alling]

Toss em in the nearest trash receptacle.

keithw wrote:


P. J. Alling wrote:

The ones around here are small bags you put your hand in use as a 
mitten of a sort, when the product is firmly in your grip you turn 
them inside out and tie the top.



Right.

And then?

keith



keithw wrote:


Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


I liked the picture, and thought it an interesting slice of life.
BTW, what is a "Scoop Dispenser"?





Where you put the doggy doo you've just scooped up?
On second thought, perhaps it's a supply of scoops for the same 
purpose?


keith








--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: *ist-DS & lens

[P. J. Alling]

The FA 20-35 is an outstanding lens on the D so I would think it would 
be just as good on the DS.


John Graves wrote:

I about to jump with both feet .looking at a *ist-ds to 
replace/supplement my PZ-20.I have the FA-20-35 Zoom which has 
produced some great pictures for me.  But...will it perform on the 
DS?  Am I going to run into the reflection/ray angle issues with it?  
I think it is better than the Digital 18-55 supplied as a standard lens.

Any experience with the FA on the list.
Also I have a Sigma 70-300 zoom as well.  As I understand, the 
telephoto lenses don't exhibit the same problems as the wide ange 
lenses, so that lens would be a long on the DS.


John G.





--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: OT - Upping the anti

[Kostas Kavoussanakis]

On Wed, 10 Aug 2005, P. J. Alling wrote:


Probably, "Why won't management let us build one?"


"Because management knows better than let you run when you can barely 
walk".


Kostas

Re: PESO: Great Expectations

[keithw]

P. J. Alling wrote:

The ones around here are small bags you put your hand in use as a mitten 
of a sort, when the product is firmly in your grip you turn them inside 
out and tie the top.


Right.

And then?

keith



keithw wrote:


Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


I liked the picture, and thought it an interesting slice of life.
BTW, what is a "Scoop Dispenser"?




Where you put the doggy doo you've just scooped up?
On second thought, perhaps it's a supply of scoops for the same purpose?

keith

Re: More Frankencam

[Kostas Kavoussanakis]

On Wed, 10 Aug 2005, Cotty wrote:


I've enabled myself with one of Mr Rolfo's adapters:



and will be testing it out shortly as it arrived today. My test lens is a
K50mm 1.2 that I keep for R and D, so will report back.


Enjoy, Cotters. What kind of automation are you getting out of the 
combo? Stop-down metering and no A?


Kostas

Re: OT - Upping the anti

[P. J. Alling]

Probably, "Why won't management let us build one?"

Gonz wrote:

I can't imagine what Pentax engineers must feel like when they see 
something like this.


Cotty wrote:


Speculation or a leak?

web page:



PDF download in Spanish:






Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_








--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: OT - Upping the anti

[P. J. Alling]

Great for Canon users, doesn't help if you don't own Canon Glass.  If I 
were starting from scratch I don't think I'd care if the sensor was APS 
sized, and then the 12mp Nikon would be just fine.


Tom C wrote:


Price range is close to right and FF!

Tom C.




From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: "pentax list" 
Subject: OT - Upping the anti
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 16:56:43 +0100

Speculation or a leak?

web page:



PDF download in Spanish:






Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_









--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: PESO: Great Expectations

[P. J. Alling]

The ones around here are small bags you put your hand in use as a mitten 
of a sort, when the product is firmly in your grip you turn them inside 
out and tie the top. 


keithw wrote:


Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


I liked the picture, and thought it an interesting slice of life.
BTW, what is a "Scoop Dispenser"?



Where you put the doggy doo you've just scooped up?
On second thought, perhaps it's a supply of scoops for the same purpose?

keith





--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: More Frankencam

[Andre Langevin]

To do it the other way around, you'd need to get the Canon lens 1.46mm
closer to the film plane. So how could you do that? You could mill 1.46mm
off the lens (not possible)...
  Cotty


On very few lenses it is possible. I've been able to slightly grind 
(less than 1 mm) a pre-set (without any auto mechanism) Rokkor 100/4 
and will glue a grinded Pentax screw reverse adapter on it, when I 
can go to the local cooperative metal shop after holiday.  Because of 
lack of a collimater, I just get sure I am a little bit past infinity 
at the inf mark.  Only set stop tele lenses can be adapted this way.


Andre

Re: MZ-s Rubber caps

[Derby Chang]

David Savage wrote:


Try:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

C.R. Kennedy are the Australian distributor of Pentax & Sigma in Australia

Check out there website at:

www.crkenedy.com.au

They say they don't do retail but some of the Aussie lister's have
managed to get them to sell stuff.

HTH

Dave

 



That was me. I bought my 31mm Ltd from them after filling in the email 
form on their website. They called me, ordered the lens from Japan, and 
I went to the office to pick it up.


The friendly Indian gentleman (whose name escapes me now) sympathised 
that no retailer would order the limiteds because they didn't think they 
could sell them.


Not sure CRK would do an overseas transaction though.

D

--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc

67 sighting

[Derby Chang]

See, you can hand hold the 67.

Warning, Mischa is wearing a pretty revealing outfit. If that upsets 
you, don't click below.


http://people.freenet.de/wildehilde/mischa/barton-malibu-006.jpg

(I like this one, the photographer is cute)
http://people.freenet.de/wildehilde/mischa/barton-malibu-007.jpg

http://people.freenet.de/wildehilde/mischa/barton-malibu-008.jpg

D

--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc

Re: More Frankencam

[Cotty]

On 10/8/05, Pancho Hasselbach, discombobulated, unleashed:

>now I realize that the person I was somehow thinking of everytime I saw 
>those gizmos was you!
>I hope that thing works, curious to hearing news about it, althogh I 
>don't own an EOS.

Er thanks Pancho.

Oddly enough, my first impressions:

At first glance, the adapter does work, but the orientation is wildly
out, meaning that when fitted, the 'top' of the lens (focus and aperture
top dead centre mark) is right underneath somewhere! So instead of the
focus and aperture mark being at the 12 o'clock position as normal, it's
at the 5 o'clock position! If the lens/adapter is placed on the camera
correctly, then the detent for the lens release button is in the wrong
place, and there's nothing for the lens release pin to fall into and stop
the lens from turning on the mount any further.

It's not possible to mount the adapter onto the lens at the proper place,
it only fits on at one of the three flange entry points. So the answer is
to drill a lens release button hole in the correct place, then it will
mate correctly and turn and stop in the right place, and the lens release
button can then be depressed to get the lens off.

I don't know if this is a design fault, or if it's a one-off with this
particular adapter. maybe it was offered up to the milling machine xxx
degrees out of where it should have been. Mr Rolfo's English is not the
best I don't think, but I may have a crack at him soon.

The actual adapter is an M42/EF adapter that has been milled and gouged
by proper machinery so it does the job. Just the orientation on my
example is totally out...

More soon.





Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: OT - Upping the anti

[Toralf Lund]

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


On Aug 10, 2005, at 11:51 AM, Toralf Lund wrote:


As long as they "downgrade" the right things, I'm all for it.

I notice that Canon has removed the pop-up flash on the body  
discussed here. If they got rid of the "21 custom functions with 59  
values" (or whatever), too, I might start getting interested...



Sometimes the popup flash is useful for a tiny bit of fill. 


Yes, but I could easily live without it, especially if it reduced the 
price of the camera, or I could trade it in for something else, like a 
full frame sensor (well that would not be a direct swap, I guess) or 
mechanical aperture coupling. (In the case of Pentaxes, obviously.)


The  custom functions on the Canon are extensive, much more so than on 
the  *ist D/DS/DL, but most of what they offer is quite useful for 
various  people.


Well, I haven't actually tried configuring a Canon camera, so I have 
idea what they do, but 21 functions do seem like a lot... The problem 
with having so many of course arises if you don't use most of them; 
having so many extra options tends to make it a lot harder to track down 
you do want to change.




They shouldn't be confused with exposure program presets, however,  
which are mostly just a waste of space on the mode selector dial for  
me. On either camera. ;-)


You mean the "picture modes". Yep, I wouldn't miss those one bit if they 
were removed. Does anyone here actually ever use them? Or will any users 
of a 3500 euro-camera like that new Canon?




Godfrey

Re: *ist-DS & lens

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Aug 10, 2005, at 12:32 PM, John Graves wrote:

I about to jump with both feet .looking at a *ist-ds to replace/ 
supplement my PZ-20.I have the FA-20-35 Zoom which has produced  
some great pictures for me.  But...will it perform on the DS?   
Am I going to run into the reflection/ray angle issues with it?  I  
think it is better than the Digital 18-55 supplied as a standard lens.

Any experience with the FA on the list. ...


I didn't like the DA18-55 after handling it at the store, seemed slow  
and lacking in contrast, and pictures I've seen with it have somewhat  
odd OOF rendering to my eye.


I bought the FA20-35/4 recently after trying a couple other lenses.  
It become my most used, most satisfying lens on the DS. Compared  
against the DA16-45, A24/2.8, and a couple of others with similar  
focal length range, it seems to have comparable/equal to better  
sharpness and contrast, and also has very good OOF rendering.


It's light weight and compactness is a near perfect match to the DS  
body too. Fit a generic (Kalt or similar), screw-in metal lens hood  
in place of the somewhat bulky Pentax lens hood (designed for 35mm  
format) and it becomes more compact still, and does not vignette.


Godfrey

Re: OT - Upping the anti

[Mark Roberts]

Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Sometimes the popup flash is useful for a tiny bit of fill. The  
>custom functions on the Canon are extensive, much more so than on the  
>*ist D/DS/DL, but most of what they offer is quite useful for various  
>people.

After using the MZ-S and ist-D extensively in the field, I wouldn't want
to own a camera *without* a pop-up flash. That little baby's saved
several shots for me!
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Re: More Frankencam: That's it! Frank's nickname!

[Gonz]

Cotty wrote:

On 10/8/05, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:



(or, more properly, Dr. Knarfenstein)



I think you've created something here.




ITS ALIVE!


Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: More Frankencam

[Pancho Hasselbach]

Cotty,

now I realize that the person I was somehow thinking of everytime I saw 
those gizmos was you!
I hope that thing works, curious to hearing news about it, althogh I 
don't own an EOS.


Pancho

Cotty schrieb:


I've enabled myself with one of Mr Rolfo's adapters:



and will be testing it out shortly as it arrived today. My test lens is a
K50mm 1.2 that I keep for R and D, so will report back.




Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_

Re: OT: Darwin award candidate

[Cotty]

On 10/8/05, Fred, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I agree with both (), but I don't really care for the name of the
>award.  Unless it is referring to someone other than Charles Darwin the
>biologist, then in my opinion it is naming an award for dummies after a
>brilliant minded scientist. (I just thought I'd point that out...)

Think gene pool and natural selection




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: More Frankencam: That's it! Frank's nickname!

[Cotty]

On 10/8/05, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:

>(or, more properly, Dr. Knarfenstein)

I think you've created something here.




Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
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||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
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Re: Another day at the office

[Cotty]

On 10/8/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Cotty, have you been saving these?

Er, no. I thought that was you're job.

It should be: I'm going to dig into my archives and find a good shot of
you that deserves a caption or fifty :-)




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Another day at the office

[Cotty]

On 10/8/05, Norman Baugher, discombobulated, unleashed:

>"But I was here 10 minutes before departure!"

Oh God, Norm's cage was rattled. Give him something to eat and he might
go bak to sleep.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Photoshop Bridge - update to 1.0.2 (Was: Work Flow Question)

[Mark Roberts]

Igor Roshchin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>You might have done so, but if not, you might want to update Bridge.
>If you go to the Adobe web-site, chose Support->Downloads ,
>and then for Bridge follow the link corresponding to your OS (Win/Mac),-
>you should be able to download the update for Bridge v. 1.0.2.
>This version appears to work noticeably faster (especially
>after the initial hit when it's done caching image information).

Thanks for the pointer! I hadn't been aware of the update to Bridge and,
damn, it's a *lot* faster than the original! Actually something I'll use
now.
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Re: More Frankencam: That's it! Frank's nickname!

[Rick Womer]

Knarfenstein

(or, more properly, Dr. Knarfenstein)

--- Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've enabled myself with one of Mr Rolfo's adapters:
> 
>

> 
> and will be testing it out shortly as it arrived
> today. My test lens is a
> K50mm 1.2 that I keep for R and D, so will report
> back.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
>   Cotty
> 
> 
> ___/\__
> ||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
> ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
> _
> 
> 
> 





Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page 
http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs 
 

*ist-DS & lens

[John Graves]

I about to jump with both feet .looking at a *ist-ds to 
replace/supplement my PZ-20.I have the FA-20-35 Zoom which has 
produced some great pictures for me.  But...will it perform on the 
DS?  Am I going to run into the reflection/ray angle issues with it?  I 
think it is better than the Digital 18-55 supplied as a standard lens.
Any experience with the FA on the list. 

Also I have a Sigma 70-300 zoom as well.  As I understand, the telephoto 
lenses don't exhibit the same problems as the wide ange lenses, so that 
lens would be a long on the DS.


John G.

Re: Another day at the office

[Mark Roberts]

Norman Baugher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>"But I was here 10 minutes before departure!"

Cotty, have you been saving these?
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Re: OT: Darwin award candidate

[Fred]

>> How do you nominate a guy for the Darwin award?  This guy is definitely
>> prime material.
>> 
>> http://tinyurl.com/dz23e

> A solid nominee to be sure. Another good candidate would be the guy who
> jumped out of the upper deck at Yankee Stadium last night just to see if
> the net that catches foul balls would hold him. Unfortunately, it did,
> but natural selection will eventually claim this fellow as well :-)


I agree with both (), but I don't really care for the name of the
award.  Unless it is referring to someone other than Charles Darwin the
biologist, then in my opinion it is naming an award for dummies after a
brilliant minded scientist. (I just thought I'd point that out...)

As for the nominees, I personally know of a few fairly strong candidates,
myself -  - (and I don't just mean on the PDML - ).

Fred

Re: More Frankencam

[Mark Roberts]

Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> I've enabled myself with one of Mr Rolfo's adapters:
>>
>> > ViewItem&category=26054&item=7535484070>
>>
>> and will be testing it out shortly as it arrived today. My test  
>> lens is a K50mm 1.2 that I keep for R and D, so will report back.
>
>If this works, we'll start on the quest to buy up all the good Pentax  
>K-mount lenses in the world as well as a healthy stock of Canon 5Ds, eh?
>  ];-)

You needn't have put a smiley on that, Godfrey: It's a course of action
well worth considering!

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Re: now for something ... different

[Mark Roberts]

Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On Aug 10, 2005, at 10:31 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>
>> How about a feature-length major motion picture?
>> Tim Burton's new stop-motion film, "The Corpse Bride" (to be  
>> released in
>> the fall), was shot entirely with the Canon 1D-II.
>> http://www.editorsguild.com/newsletter/JulAug05/julaug05_bride.html
>
>Sure, and a notable achievement in its own right. But using a movie  
>camera for stop-action animation reduces it to a still camera with a  
>long piece of film in it anyway.
>
>An in-the-streets movie with live actors, created with a still  
>camera, is a bit more outré.

Quite true (I didn't look at the original file so I didn't know that's
what they did). (BTW, I think "outré" is exactly the right word to use
there!)
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Re: Another day at the office

[Norman Baugher]

"But I was here 10 minutes before departure!"
Norm

Cotty wrote:


RAF Brize Norton this morning. Snapped through a bus window by friend and
colleague Barry Clack, a freelance photographer from Oxford, on his Nikon
D2X, so this is OT I suppose ;-)

I'm a big bloke, but *that's* a big plane!  Boeing C-17. Waiting for air
crew to pop out for a chat. Looks like I'm alone but the rest of the
press rabble is behind the bus at right...






Cheers,
 Cotty


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Re: Protective polypro sleeves for prints?

[Mark Roberts]

Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On Aug 10, 2005, at 11:13 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>
>> I'm getting a little fed up with packaging the fine art prints I  
>> sell in
>> polypropylene sleeves that are too big. I just sold a 12 x 18 (on 13 x
>> 19 paper) and put it in a 16 x 20 sleeve. A minor irritation, I admit,
>> but one that grates ever more with each passing year. :)
>>
>> Does anyone make polypro sleeves in sized for photographers?
>
>Light Impressions carries this kind of thing:
>
>http://www.lightimpressionsdirect.com/servlet/OnlineShopping? 
>Dsp=20300&PCR=3:20:206000:206100
>
>http://tinyurl.com/cqjg9

Bloody 'ell! Just what I've been looking for! Thanks.

>> P.S.
>> I may have another good gig soon - for the Carnegie Science Museum!  
>> It's
>> doing sound design, not photography, but still looks very promising.
>
>Hope it works out well!

It may depend on their getting a grant to fund it, but I'm tentatively
optimistic. I'm thinking I could work some photography into it once it
gets going ;-)
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Re: OT - Upping the anti

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Aug 10, 2005, at 11:51 AM, Toralf Lund wrote:


As long as they "downgrade" the right things, I'm all for it.

I notice that Canon has removed the pop-up flash on the body  
discussed here. If they got rid of the "21 custom functions with 59  
values" (or whatever), too, I might start getting interested...


Sometimes the popup flash is useful for a tiny bit of fill. The  
custom functions on the Canon are extensive, much more so than on the  
*ist D/DS/DL, but most of what they offer is quite useful for various  
people.


They shouldn't be confused with exposure program presets, however,  
which are mostly just a waste of space on the mode selector dial for  
me. On either camera. ;-)


Godfrey

Re: OT - Upping the anti

[Toralf Lund]

Tom C wrote:

I think they probably start looking for ways to downgrade the specs on 
the camera they are designing so they can sell it for less...


As long as they "downgrade" the right things, I'm all for it.

I notice that Canon has removed the pop-up flash on the body discussed 
here. If they got rid of the "21 custom functions with 59 values" (or 
whatever), too, I might start getting interested...




1/2 tongue-in-cheek - 1/2 serious

Tom C.




From: Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT - Upping the anti
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 11:37:04 -0500

I can't imagine what Pentax engineers must feel like when they see 
something like this.


Cotty wrote:


Speculation or a leak?

web page:



PDF download in Spanish:






Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_

Re: Protective polypro sleeves for prints?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Aug 10, 2005, at 11:13 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

I'm getting a little fed up with packaging the fine art prints I  
sell in

polypropylene sleeves that are too big. I just sold a 12 x 18 (on 13 x
19 paper) and put it in a 16 x 20 sleeve. A minor irritation, I admit,
but one that grates ever more with each passing year. :)

Does anyone make polypro sleeves in sized for photographers?


Light Impressions carries this kind of thing:

http://www.lightimpressionsdirect.com/servlet/OnlineShopping? 
Dsp=20300&PCR=3:20:206000:206100


http://tinyurl.com/cqjg9



P.S.
I may have another good gig soon - for the Carnegie Science Museum!  
It's

doing sound design, not photography, but still looks very promising.


Hope it works out well!

Godfrey

Re: interior photography

[Vic Mortelmans]

I agree the critics. It's a more difficult exercise than I first 
thought, certainly on the presentation aspect. Technically, a wider lens 
would have given me much more freedom: now I was cramped inside some 
corner and the smaller rooms I took from outside the door.  35mm is no 
good for this kind of photographing. I wonder if my 24mm would have been 
sufficient, but for a usable coverage, 20mm or less would certainly be 
needed.


Groeten,

Vic

Lucas Rijnders wrote:

Hi Vic, Markus,


I do not think that the house is shown in a good way overall.



I agree...

Protective polypro sleeves for prints?

[Mark Roberts]

I'm getting a little fed up with packaging the fine art prints I sell in
polypropylene sleeves that are too big. I just sold a 12 x 18 (on 13 x
19 paper) and put it in a 16 x 20 sleeve. A minor irritation, I admit,
but one that grates ever more with each passing year. :)

Does anyone make polypro sleeves in sized for photographers?
Has any manufacturer of these things ever picked up, say, an Epson paper
catalog, and thought "Hey, these are the sizes they make *paper* in -
perhaps we ought to make *sleeves* in those sizes"?

Mark
(Just grumbling today)

P.S.
I may have another good gig soon - for the Carnegie Science Museum! It's
doing sound design, not photography, but still looks very promising.
Cross your fingers for me.
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Re: now for something ... different

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Aug 10, 2005, at 10:31 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:


How about a feature-length major motion picture?
Tim Burton's new stop-motion film, "The Corpse Bride" (to be  
released in

the fall), was shot entirely with the Canon 1D-II.
http://www.editorsguild.com/newsletter/JulAug05/julaug05_bride.html


Sure, and a notable achievement in its own right. But using a movie  
camera for stop-action animation reduces it to a still camera with a  
long piece of film in it anyway.


An in-the-streets movie with live actors, created with a still  
camera, is a bit more outré.


Godfrey

Re: OT: Darwin award candidate

[pnstenquist]

A solid nominee to be sure.
Another good candidate would be the guy who jumped out of the upper deck at 
Yankee Stadium last night just to see if the net that catches foul balls would 
hold him. Unfortunately, it did, but natural selection will eventually claim 
this fellow as well :-)


> How do you nominate a guy for the Darwin award?  This guy is definitely 
> prime material.
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/dz23e
> 
> 
> rg
>