Re: Liberty. Was: anybody still shoot film?
In a message dated 9/27/2005 5:44:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Weren't you the one who, just a while ago, suggested keeping politics out of this discussion. Yet here you are, jumping in with both feet and moving the discussion further towards politics. LOL And yes, I know others are participating, but they didn't make the statement you did. I sure hope this doesn't begin another long winded political bullshit thread. Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Liberal still means liberal. It doesn't matter how much some distort it. = Yes, I slipped. My bad. I'll try to keep my own bullshit out of it, however. I just don't like being called a libertarian when I'm not. Or anyone even implying that I am one. Or that I am in a group of people that could be classified that way. Or anything like that. Marnie aka Doe ;-)
RE: Synchronization theme
Hi Markus, It's been a little disappointing. Counting you and myself, I think there's nine so far. I'd wish that anyone on the PDML that took a shot within 24 hours either side of SEP 22 2005 2223 UTC and had it available to send would do so to my [EMAIL PROTECTED] address. Needn't worry about criticisms or the like. Just send it in. Someone on the list always finds something about every photo. We are a diverse group. No problem waiting for you at all. Thank you for contributing. Tom C. From: Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Synchronization theme Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 07:22:40 +0200 Hi Tom btw, how much entries have you got so far for the Synchronization theme? I should receive the prints of my night shots from the lab tomorrow or Friday and will send you a photo after scanning asap - Friday night. greetings Markus
Re: Liberty. Was: anybody still shoot film?
Marnie wrote: Yes, I slipped. My bad. Actually I hate the term 'my bad'. I know it came from some movie. To me it says Yeah, I made a mistake, so what?... and is designed to rid oneself of any perceived guilt they may feel over their own inadequacy, inaccuracy, or plain old screw up. At work, it comes across as dismissive of other persons feelings. It's a very liberal phrase to spout. :) I'm pulling your leg on most of this rhetoric, though the phrase does bug me, especially when I consider who says it in the work place. OK... very seriously, my post is not meant to offend in the least. :) I'm serious and I really mean it. Don't read anything into these words that I haven't actually typed. I'm serious, OK? :) Tom C. :)
Re: Liberty. Was: anybody still shoot film?
In a message dated 9/27/2005 11:20:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's a very liberal phrase to spout. :) I'm pulling your leg on most of this rhetoric, though the phrase does bug me, especially when I consider who says it in the work place. OK... very seriously, my post is not meant to offend in the least. :) I'm serious and I really mean it. Don't read anything into these words that I haven't actually typed. I'm serious, OK? :) Tom C. :) == Actually, I never heard it before Boris said (wrote) it a few weeks ago. Cotty commented on it asking my bad WHAT? So it amused me because it sounded like kid slang. To me it sounded like -- I'm bad. I made a mistake. But you can put any construction on it you want, or on my use of it. shrug Doesn't matter to me. Marnie aka Doe
Enabled with A50/1.4
Today I received a gorgeous A50/1.4 from Don Sanderson Enterprises, aka Cedar Rapids Lens Repair and Storm Door Company. It's a beauty! This is my first A series lens (except for a few of the fancy A* lenses), and it completes my collection of manual focus 50mm/1.4 optics. I'm so pleased I just had to share my enthusiasm with the list. The hood from the 105mm/2.8 Takumar is a nice fit for this one. Doesn't vignette on film or digi. I've not tried the hood from the 135/3.5 Takumar, which I think will work fine with the digi, but which is a little long and not quite as nice looking on the camera. Should be fun comparing this with the M and K versions ;-)) Shel
Re: Liberty. Was: anybody still shoot film?
That's fine Marnie. :) I'm spouting off myself... on some kind of kick tonight. Last week on this job and starting a new one next week. Tom C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Liberty. Was: anybody still shoot film? Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 02:24:05 EDT In a message dated 9/27/2005 11:20:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's a very liberal phrase to spout. :) I'm pulling your leg on most of this rhetoric, though the phrase does bug me, especially when I consider who says it in the work place. OK... very seriously, my post is not meant to offend in the least. :) I'm serious and I really mean it. Don't read anything into these words that I haven't actually typed. I'm serious, OK? :) Tom C. :) == Actually, I never heard it before Boris said (wrote) it a few weeks ago. Cotty commented on it asking my bad WHAT? So it amused me because it sounded like kid slang. To me it sounded like -- I'm bad. I made a mistake. But you can put any construction on it you want, or on my use of it. shrug Doesn't matter to me. Marnie aka Doe
OT: Today
CPasted from the Writer's Alamanc by Garrison Keillor... I think there's something in here for most everyone... -- Poem: Peace by C. K. Williams, from Love About Love © Ausable Press, 2001. Reprinted with permission. Peace We fight for hours, through dinner, through the endless evening, who even knows now what about, what could be so dire to have to suffer so for, stuck in one another's craws like fishbones, the cadavers of our argument dissected, flayed, but we go on with it, to bed, and through the night, feigning sleep, dreaming sleep, hardly sleeping, so precisely never touching, back to back, the blanket bridged across us for the wintry air to tunnel down, to keep us lifting, turning, through the angry dark that holds us in its cup of pain, the aching dark, the weary dark, then, toward dawn, I can't help it, though justice won't I know be served, I pull her to me, and with such accurate, graceful deftness she rolls to me that we arrive embracing our entire lengths. Literary and Historical Notes: Today is a big day in the history of the English language. On this day, in 1066, William the Conqueror of Normandy arrived on British soil. Having defeated the British in the Battle of Hastings and on Christmas day he was crowned the King in Westminster Abby. At the time the British were speaking a combination of Saxon and Old Norse. The Normans, of course, spoke French, and over time the languages blended. To the Saxon word house came the Norman word mansion. To the Saxon word cow came the Norman word beef and so on. So the English language now contains more than a million words, one of the most diverse languages on earth. Cyril Connelly wrote, The English language is like a broad river ... being polluted by a string of refuse-barges tipping out their muck. But Walt Whitman said, The English language is the accretion and growth of every dialect, race, and range of time, and is both the free and compacted composition of all. - It's the birthday of John Sayles, (books by this author) born in Schenectady, New York (1950). He's one of the few writers who went on to become a successful filmmaker. His first novel was Pride of the Bimbos (1975), about five men who make a living playing exhibition baseball dressed as women. He got his first screenwriting job on a horror movie called Piranha. He said, My whole job was to contrive a reason why people, once they hear there are piranhas in the river, don't just stay out of the river but end up getting eaten. That's basically what they paid me $10,000 for. It's the birthday of Ed Sullivan, born in New York City (1902). He was writing a gossip column for the New York Daily News called Little Old New York, moonlighting now and then as a master of ceremonies at variety shows and benefits. He was emceeing a dance contest when somebody asked him if he'd like to try hosting a show on this new thing called television. The Ed Sullivan Show premiered live on CBS in 1948, and within a few years about 50 million people watched it every Sunday night. It was like vaudeville. It had opera singers, ventriloquists and magicians and pandas on roller skates and big stars. Ed Sullivan said, Open big, have a good comedy act, put in something for children, and keep the show clean. He was a shy, awkward man, but he loved performers. He personally chose every guest for his show. He was one of the first hosts to invite black performers, including Jackie Robinson, Duke Ellington, Richard Pryor, and James Brown. Ed Sullivan: the last television host who tried to appeal to everyone in America.
RE: Enabled with A50/1.4
Love to see some shots with it. Tom C. From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Enabled with A50/1.4 Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 23:31:26 -0700 Today I received a gorgeous A50/1.4 from Don Sanderson Enterprises, aka Cedar Rapids Lens Repair and Storm Door Company. It's a beauty! This is my first A series lens (except for a few of the fancy A* lenses), and it completes my collection of manual focus 50mm/1.4 optics. I'm so pleased I just had to share my enthusiasm with the list. The hood from the 105mm/2.8 Takumar is a nice fit for this one. Doesn't vignette on film or digi. I've not tried the hood from the 135/3.5 Takumar, which I think will work fine with the digi, but which is a little long and not quite as nice looking on the camera. Should be fun comparing this with the M and K versions ;-)) Shel
Re: auto focus body recommendation solicitation
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 04:29:26 +0200, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/27/05, Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want something really cool, buy the silver (!) Z-5 from KEH. Almost a Z-1, rather unique, and they don't seem to be able to sell it... I saw that one. Cool little camera. From what little I can find Cool BIG camera :o) online about it, it seems to be a Z-1 in silver/black trim. It is slightly limited w.r.t. the Z-1. It has (according to the KMP) fewer pentax functions, and fewer exposure modes for instance. Nothing deal-breaking, I think. Apparently, it's a limited production model that was intended for the Asian market. At this point I'm leaning a little toward the Z-1p, but I haven't ruled the Z-5 out just yet. Thanks for the suggestions! Welcome. I have been sorely tempted, but I already have the Z-1... -- -- Regards, Lucas
RE: Liberty. Was: anybody still shoot film?
The fundamental aspect of liberalism is that we are all free to do what we want provided we don't harm other people my right to swing my fists ends where your face begins. It is essentially the same as the Golden Rule. The difficulties arise when you try to define harm. The definition below wouldn't work at all. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: Tim Sherburne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 September 2005 00:44 To: Pentax Discussion List Subject: Re: Liberty. Was: anybody still shoot film? I recently ran across these working definitions that go beyond politics to one's personal philosophy: conservative: Anything not expressly allowed is prohibited liberal: Anything not expressly prohibited is allowed Tim
Re: Enabled with A50/1.4
Hello Shel, I know how you feel. I have one of those and I like using it more than my FA 50/1.4. Mostly because I manually focus and it has such a nice feel and size of focus ring. The FA 50/1.4 has that small, smooth ring that many of the FA lenses have and just isn't as nice in that regard. Have fun with it! -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, September 27, 2005, 11:31:26 PM, you wrote: SB Today I received a gorgeous A50/1.4 from Don Sanderson Enterprises, aka SB Cedar Rapids Lens Repair and Storm Door Company. It's a beauty! This is SB my first A series lens (except for a few of the fancy A* lenses), and it SB completes my collection of manual focus 50mm/1.4 optics. I'm so pleased I SB just had to share my enthusiasm with the list. The hood from the 105mm/2.8 SB Takumar is a nice fit for this one. Doesn't vignette on film or digi. SB I've not tried the hood from the 135/3.5 Takumar, which I think will work SB fine with the digi, but which is a little long and not quite as nice SB looking on the camera. SB Should be fun comparing this with the M and K versions ;-)) SB Shel
Re: Enabled with A50/1.4
Thanks Bruce ... The focus feels a lot nicer than some of the other A-series lenses I've tried. I think I'm going to like this little puppy. Shel [Original Message] From: Bruce Dayton I know how you feel. I have one of those and I like using it more than my FA 50/1.4. Mostly because I manually focus and it has such a nice feel and size of focus ring. The FA 50/1.4 has that small, smooth ring that many of the FA lenses have and just isn't as nice in that regard. Tuesday, September 27, 2005, 11:31:26 PM, you wrote: SB Today I received a gorgeous A50/1.4 from Don Sanderson Enterprises, aka SB Cedar Rapids Lens Repair and Storm Door Company. It's a beauty! This is SB my first A series lens (except for a few of the fancy A* lenses), and it SB completes my collection of manual focus 50mm/1.4 optics. I'm so pleased I SB just had to share my enthusiasm with the list. The hood from the 105mm/2.8 SB Takumar is a nice fit for this one. Doesn't vignette on film or digi. SB I've not tried the hood from the 135/3.5 Takumar, which I think will work SB fine with the digi, but which is a little long and not quite as nice SB looking on the camera. SB Should be fun comparing this with the M and K versions ;-))
RE: PESO - Winding path
Thanks Frank, Marnie, Kenneth and Paul for your comments. -Original Message- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:43 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Winding path On 9/27/05, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What Paul said, also if you can shoot this in the early morning or late afternoon light it would be a more pleasing image. , what with richer light and possibly some shadows. Good first Peso! Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO - Winding path Well composed and framed. It's a bit too bright overall on my monitor. The highlights on the path are close to white. A little less brightness overall would give the path more definition and the sky would be dramatic. I find the subject only mildly interesting. But a good first effort. I agree with the above. The composition is nice, and the trees aren't so bad, but the roadway is over-exposed, so there's no detail in those lovely stones. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
RE: PESO: A dog pic
Quite funny! Thanks. Darn the ladies flattop. Tom C. From: Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO: A dog pic Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 20:25:45 +0200 This guy actually looked scary, and wasn't intimidated by me not showing fear and walking up to him: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com/index.php?showimage=247 istD, FA16-45 at 16mm Thanks for looking, j -- Juan Buhler http://www.jbuhler.com photoblog at http://photoblog.jbuhler.com
RE: PAW: People Portraits 2005 #38 - GDG
Interesting shot! Lot's of things to enjoy. Gesture, legs, boots under the table (starbucks). A fun one. Tom C. From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: PDML pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PAW: People Portraits 2005 #38 - GDG Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 01:13:01 -0700 Another PAW up for viewing: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/38.htm Comments, critique, flames always appreciated. Flames are ignored. ;-) enjoy Godfrey
Re: auto focus body recommendation solicitation
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Lucas Rijnders wrote: On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 04:29:26 +0200, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/27/05, Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want something really cool, buy the silver (!) Z-5 from KEH. Almost a Z-1, rather unique, and they don't seem to be able to sell it... I saw that one. Cool little camera. From what little I can find Cool BIG camera :o) online about it, it seems to be a Z-1 in silver/black trim. It is slightly limited w.r.t. the Z-1. It has (according to the KMP) fewer pentax functions, and fewer exposure modes for instance. Nothing deal-breaking, I think. No just fewer, not user settable either: The custom function of this body can be set only at an authorized service center Kostas
RE: GESO: CNE Airshow 2005
Frank, was looking for the airshow shots, but at least at the time I looked, I couldn't pull up the full size versions. However I did see this and was dutifully impressed. Great one! http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3175020 Tom C. From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: PDML pentax-discuss@pdml.net, Jeff Tokayer [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Chang-Sang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: GESO: CNE Airshow 2005 Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 10:28:08 -0400 Right now there are only 3 in the gallery; I might scan a few more later today, but these were the best. The Snowbirds are Canada's military aerobatic team. They fly 40 year old CL44 trainers, which have a nasty habit of plummetting from the sky without notice, but mostly that only seems to happen in practice, not at shows. They're actually very good, as those old subsonic trainers are nicely manoeverable, and besides, who needs supersonic at an airshow, right? They are traditionally the final act at the Canadian National Airshow which is held Labour Day Weekend here at Toronto, and which has become a regular TOPDML activity. Comments are welcome: http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=530809 cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PESO - The Morning Drive
On Sep 28, 2005, at 5:57 PM, Tom C wrote: You made me do a 2nd and 3rd take. You may be right. On the other hand it could be right-hand drive. Or maybe he was changing lanes? Or just has long arms? :) Or were you remarking because of where the passenger seat is in your country... I tend to be slow occassionally. Yeah we're right-hand drive here. - Dave
RE: Til Death Us Do Part
I think it was Arthur C. Clark in Fountains of Paradise who predicted that people would make their email programs send automatic birthday greetings and that the programs would continue doing so long after the sender was dead. If both parts were dead it could go on for years... DagT fra: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] A scary thought. When we die, ther's still some of our galleries and websites that doesn't have an owner anymore. Perhaps they'll stay in the air for centuries? Imagine a website made by the Wright brothers describing how they went about inventing the airplane and flying for the first time in 1903! Regards Jens Bladt Arkitekt MAA http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 28. september 2005 06:36 Til: pentax list Emne: Til Death Us Do Part Someone on another list was asking about laptop memory pricing, asking if there was any tracking sites, and I posted this: Har. There *used* to be : http://www.pbsource.com/ Once upon a time, an active little site - I used to write for them. Then suddenly bam! Nothing. It has frozen in time - literally. Nothing since Feb 11th, 2004. Just like a scene from a sci-fi movie. I tried contacting the owner (Frank Klassner) but never got a reply, so I gave up after 6 months. I feared he must have passed away suddenly or something. Scary thought - who will tell all our online friends in their many and varied forms, the day after we pop *our* clogs.. Perhaps I should leave one file on the desktop of my Pismo called 'Read Me If I Die Unexpectedly'. shiver --- food for thought... Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: auto focus body recommendation solicitation
G'day Tom C. I picked one up from a pawn shop here in OZ. It had a few marks on it. I then got a mint one from KEH only last month. So, at the moment, I have a spare Grip and Strap. Even the grip strap F for the SFXn improves the portability of the camera. It allows the shoulder strap to remain attached to the camera similar to the PZ-1P with Grip. Hooroo. Regards, Trevor. Grafton. Australia -Original Message- From: Tom C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 28 September 2005 1:39 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: auto focus body recommendation solicitation Good luck finding the grip though. I haven't looked extensively for one, but in 8 years of ownig the PZ-1p, I have never observed one anywhere. The ergpnomics are great w/o the grip, IMO. It's not a battery holder grip either, so that may have a bearing on its desirabiity. Tom C.
Re: auto focus body recommendation solicitation
If you're a bit of a gadget freak, you'll love the PZ1-P. It has just about every facility you can think of, and a great deal of customisability. It's also got fast wind-on and rewind, and fast top shutter speed and flash sync. It's Pentax's most capable camera. But if you like the simple things in life, it may not be for you. John On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 03:36:29 +0100, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for all the replies. As there were quite a few more than I expected, I'll not inundate the list with individual responses. Right now I'm leaning a bit toward the Pz-1 or Pz-1p. (hyper program sounds like lots of fun) However, KEH has a nifty MZ-5 in black and that Z-5. So who knows? Anyway, I'll fill you in when I've bought something. Thanks again! On 9/26/05, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy, gang! A very brief background before I get to my question: I have a K1000, MX, *ist(film), 6 M series primes, and two auto focus zooms. The *ist's complete lack of metering with the M lenses has become frustrating. So I'm in the market for a body that will fully support all the K mount lenses I currently own. The MZ-S is the logical choice here, but the budget (read: wife) says no. I'm considering either an ZX-5(n) or a PZ-1(p). After digging through Boj's site, I'm still unsure about the differences between the ZX-5 and the ZX-5n, and between the PZ-1 and the PZ-1p. The latter of both models seems to be a bit more desirable, but are the differences significant enough to warrant ruling out the previous models? Would those of you with experience using these bodies have any recommendations, advice, alternatives, etc.? Also, I've never really understood hyper manual and hyper program. Would anyone care to briefly describe them? Thanks a bunch! -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.7/112 - Release Date: 26/09/2005
Re: OT-- Paranoia
Tom C wrote: It's us here at the PDML... we secretly target someone and then get a lurker in the target city to go around and loosen the bolts on transmisson pans! :) I'm going out to check mine now. Those of us with manual gearboxes or (like me) without cars are unfazed by this new PDML terror, of course... :-) S
Re: Liberty. Was: anybody still shoot film?
It's just that words change meaning with languages and geography. Especially in politics were the winner may try to degrade the views of the opponent. Liberal is slightly on the right wing here, but may be understood as left wing in the US, and I've met americans who cant understand how we can have a socialist government in a democracy. They think it is the same thing as communism. DagT fra: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] So an innocent word has been highjacked by the illiberal to mean something else? Perhaps we need language police. John On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 00:19:33 +0100, Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Forbes asked: The word (liberal) comes from Old French, and originally meant pertaining to a free man. Its very root means free. So why is it that in the land of the free, many people seem to like freedom for everything except thought, and consider liberal to be a dirty word? This baffles the rest of us, many of whom tend to accept, more or less, the definition of the Oxford Dictionary (original edition), which states: Of political opinions: Favourable to constitutional changes and legal or administrative reforms tending in the direction of freedom or democracy. Surely this is what all Americans want? Isn't it? So what's wrong with being liberal? It's almost impossible to answer your question without setting off the politics powderkeg. When used as a dirty word, liberal is an accusation that means one who advocates higher taxes and excessive government. That is what the person making the accusation wants the electorate to believe. It can go much deeper. This touches on issues that people are extremely passionate about and it could easily turn ugly. Abortion, guns, separation of church and state and economic policy are some of the issues. I tried to keep this opinion free to avoid setting off the arguments. Tom Reese -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.7/112 - Release Date: 26/09/2005
Re: Re: auto focus body recommendation solicitation
From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/09/28 Wed AM 09:33:23 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: auto focus body recommendation solicitation If you're a bit of a gadget freak, you'll love the PZ1-P. It has just about every facility you can think of, and a great deal of customisability. It's also got fast wind-on and rewind, and fast top shutter speed and flash sync. It's Pentax's most capable camera. You'd better make that Pentax's most capable 35mm film camera before you get deluged. But if you like the simple things in life, it may not be for you. John - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Buffer update
Dear All, Just reading how the Fuji S3 camera is going to have a buffer update offered to customers. Now as an ist D owner wouldn't it be wonderful if Pentax offered a buffer update for the camera.Sorry I was probably dreaming. Regards Charles Wilson Sydney Australia
The True Meaning of Pictures
Shelby Lee Adams' Appalachia: I recently saw this DVD and thought it might be something a few people on the list might enjoy. Documentarian Jennifer Baichwal tells the stories behind the faces of the Kentucky Appalachian inhabitants -- once labeled hillbillies -- who were originally captured through the camera lens of photographer Shelby Lee Adams 30 years earlier. Baichwal tracks the lives of two families who have each endured their share of heartache throughout their struggle to resist the influence of American popular culture. Shel
Re: Buffer update
Charles Wilson wrote: Just reading how the Fuji S3 camera is going to have a buffer update offered to customers. Now as an ist D owner wouldn't it be wonderful if Pentax offered a buffer update for the camera.Sorry I was probably dreaming. Well, chances are that Pentax didn't design their cameras to make upgrading the buffers a feasible option... S
Daily Update-Pentax Petition and Petition Survey
960 hits on the web page and 95 submissions so far. We're gettin' there! Let's keep it going and spread the word! I'll be taking flyers to the local Pentax dealers today, they said they'll be happy to leave some out on the counter. Any other ideas? http://www.donsauction.com/Pentax for the survey. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] for comments/suggestions. Thanks! Don
RE: 2 minor enablements in one day!
Bricks are boring! ;-) Don -Original Message- From: Markus Maurer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 12:30 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: 2 minor enablements in one day! Hi Don that looks good and that 35mm even finally fits the basset :-) While others test new enablement of lenses with bricks, you take the pets...g greetings Markus -Original Message- From: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 3:03 AM To: PDML Subject: 2 minor enablements in one day! I recieved the M35-70/2.8-3.5 and the A35/2.8 today. I'm still undecided about the 35-70 but that A35 is swet!! Here's a quick snap: http://donsauction.com/pdml/BigHead.htm Don
RE: 2 minor enablements in one day!
As near as I can tell they're identical optically. Boz's page shows them that way too. It's very nice having on body aperture control and AV mode back though. ;-) Don -Original Message- From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 11:59 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: SV: 2 minor enablements in one day! Congrats, Don! Is the A35 optically better than the M35? Jens Bladt Arkitekt MAA http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 28. september 2005 03:03 Til: PDML Emne: 2 minor enablements in one day! I recieved the M35-70/2.8-3.5 and the A35/2.8 today. I'm still undecided about the 35-70 but that A35 is swet!! Here's a quick snap: http://donsauction.com/pdml/BigHead.htm Don
Re: PESO - The Morning Drive
Not much fun, is it? But an interesting shot. Good dynamic range and very good flare control. What camera and lens did you shoot with? Paul On Sep 27, 2005, at 11:56 PM, George Sinos wrote: Here's my morning drive. http://Georges.smugmug.com/photos/37815932-M.jpg Eastbound traffic goes straight into the morning Sun. See you later, gs http://www.georgesphotos.net
RE: 2 minor enablements in one day!
That's the official Aw Geez Dad, not another picture look. ;-) Don -Original Message- From: P. J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 10:49 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: 2 minor enablements in one day! He's a very sad looking dog. Don Sanderson wrote: I recieved the M35-70/2.8-3.5 and the A35/2.8 today. I'm still undecided about the 35-70 but that A35 is swet!! Here's a quick snap: http://donsauction.com/pdml/BigHead.htm Don -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: Daily Update-Pentax Petition and Petition Survey
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Don Sanderson wrote: I'll be taking flyers to the local Pentax dealers today, they said they'll be happy to leave some out on the counter. This is getting big, and it's all thanks to your extraordinary drive. Well done Don. Could we upload the flyer on http://www.pdml.net/ and other such websites (http://pentaxuser.co.uk anyone?) Kostas
Re: Re: auto focus body recommendation solicitation
On 9/28/05, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/09/28 Wed AM 09:33:23 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: auto focus body recommendation solicitation It's Pentax's most capable camera. You'd better make that Pentax's most capable 35mm film camera before you get deluged. No, no, no! Don't change it. Let's see what happens. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
Re: OT-- Paranoia
Scott Loveless wrote: Apparently, they mistook my wife's lug nuts for tranny pan bolts! A couple weeks ago she broke a lug off as she was parking the car. The other three nuts on the same wheel could be turned by hand. So I spent several hours the next day putting in a new lug and making damn sure the nuts were tight on all of them. A week later they were loose again. Funny thing is that I had been checking them daily. I haven't lived here long enough to make enemies. I'm really scared of what they'll do to me after they get to know me around here. :) Oh things will get worse. Much worse. It will start with fingerprints on your lenses, dust on your focusing screens and mysterious smudges on all your filters. Then they'll really get nasty and leave all your film in the hot sun. Those digital guys are pure unadulterated evil... Tom Rees
Re: Enabled with A50/1.4
That's a great lens for the Ds, since it gives you a stout manual focus barrel combined with full metering capability. Just think how much You would have to pay for a 1.4 portrait lens for a 35mm film camera. That can make anyone smile. Paul Paul On Sep 28, 2005, at 2:31 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Today I received a gorgeous A50/1.4 from Don Sanderson Enterprises, aka Cedar Rapids Lens Repair and Storm Door Company. It's a beauty! This is my first A series lens (except for a few of the fancy A* lenses), and it completes my collection of manual focus 50mm/1.4 optics. I'm so pleased I just had to share my enthusiasm with the list. The hood from the 105mm/2.8 Takumar is a nice fit for this one. Doesn't vignette on film or digi. I've not tried the hood from the 135/3.5 Takumar, which I think will work fine with the digi, but which is a little long and not quite as nice looking on the camera. Should be fun comparing this with the M and K versions ;-)) Shel
Re: Enabled with A50/1.4
Should be fun comparing this with the M and K versions ;-)) I think it'll compare very favorably optically, Shel, but I suspect you'll be doing a bit of grumbling about the feel of the lens in use. In my opinion, the A 50/1.4 is the best optically, but is just not as pleasant to use as are its M and earlier 50/1.4 siblings. The A version did seem to benefit from an optical tweak or two, resulting in slightly improved resolution and slightly improved contrast. And, of course, its A contacts and aperture setting make it a bit more convenient to use on your new DS (and on my new DS). But, I think that El Cerito will be heard from again over the build qualities and focus feel - g. (The aperture ring difference should not be noticeable on the DS - g.) Fred
Re: Enabled with A50/1.4
I know how you feel. I have one of those and I like using it more than my FA 50/1.4. Mostly because I manually focus and it has such a nice feel and size of focus ring. The FA 50/1.4 has that small, smooth ring that many of the FA lenses have and just isn't as nice in that regard. But the A and FA versions do appear to be identical optically, though, right, Bruce? Fred
RE: Enabled with A50/1.4
That's Cedar Rapids Lens Repair, Storm Door Company _and Surveys_ to you fella! ;-) Don -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 1:31 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Enabled with A50/1.4 Today I received a gorgeous A50/1.4 from Don Sanderson Enterprises, aka Cedar Rapids Lens Repair and Storm Door Company. It's a beauty! This is my first A series lens (except for a few of the fancy A* lenses), and it completes my collection of manual focus 50mm/1.4 optics. I'm so pleased I just had to share my enthusiasm with the list. The hood from the 105mm/2.8 Takumar is a nice fit for this one. Doesn't vignette on film or digi. I've not tried the hood from the 135/3.5 Takumar, which I think will work fine with the digi, but which is a little long and not quite as nice looking on the camera. Should be fun comparing this with the M and K versions ;-)) Shel
Re: Enabled with A50/1.4
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Paul Stenquist wrote: That's a great lens for the Ds, since it gives you a stout manual focus barrel combined with full metering capability. Just think how much You would have to pay for a 1.4 portrait lens for a 35mm film camera. That can make anyone smile. What, me personally? For a 75/1.4 to go on my 35mm? As much as I paid for the 77. Nothing, it's too short to be of use to me, and at that price. YMMV :-) Kostas
Re: auto focus body recommendation solicitation
It's Pentax's most capable camera. You'd better make that Pentax's most capable 35mm film camera before you get deluged. Well, some might even quibble over the comparison with other film bodies, too, if more capable is supposed to include more capable of being used and abused in a variety of conditions. Fred
Re: *stD without c/f card
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there an equivalent of the PC 'three fingered salute' to do a complete camera reset without undergoing a firmware change that anyone knows about? Have tried the 'reset' under menu but this only resets the custom functions etc. rather than rebooting camera. Take the button battery out, along with the main battery, and leave the camera sit for a few minutes. Thanks, can't imagine why I didn't think of that but unfortunately it hasn't helped. Out of interest I was surprised just how long I had to leave the batteries out to make any change - an hour was not sufficient although overnight was. Think I'll try replacing the button battery with a new one and maybe upgrade firmware to 1.12 as a last shot, if not back it goes. William Robb -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.6/111 - Release Date: 23/09/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.8/113 - Release Date: 27/09/2005
Re: PESO - Hole
Little bit offtopic: i really like this pic http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_-2.htm strange colors and clouds... Gasha Bruce Dayton wrote: I laid off posting pics from the Monument Valley trip for awhile. I was going back through them to see what else caught my eye and felt this would be worth showing. This was kind of a big bowl shaped area ringed by this big rock wall. Sand dunes were pressed up against it and on one end was this arch. I climbed up the dune on the opposite side of the arch to get a different vantage point. Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, handheld ISO 400, 20mm, 1/1500 sec @ f/4.5 Converted from Raw using Capture One LE http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0347.htm Comments welcome
Re: Enabled with A50/1.4
Hi Fred ... First quick comparison, this lens doesn't feel much different than my M wrt focus feel. Of course, the K is noticeably sweeter . I'm starting to like the A contacts with these newfangled cameras. Well, off to make some tea and get started with the day ... Shel [Original Message] From: Fred Should be fun comparing this with the M and K versions ;-)) I think it'll compare very favorably optically, Shel, but I suspect you'll be doing a bit of grumbling about the feel of the lens in use. In my opinion, the A 50/1.4 is the best optically, but is just not as pleasant to use as are its M and earlier 50/1.4 siblings. The A version did seem to benefit from an optical tweak or two, resulting in slightly improved resolution and slightly improved contrast. And, of course, its A contacts and aperture setting make it a bit more convenient to use on your new DS (and on my new DS). But, I think that El Cerito will be heard from again over the build qualities and focus feel - g. (The aperture ring difference should not be noticeable on the DS - g.) Fred
RE: Enabled with A50/1.4
Do you sell band uniforms as well? Shel [Original Message] From: Don Sanderson That's Cedar Rapids Lens Repair, Storm Door Company _and Surveys_ to you fella! ;-)
RE: Enabled with A50/1.4
Hm, not yet. Don -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 6:21 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Enabled with A50/1.4 Do you sell band uniforms as well? Shel [Original Message] From: Don Sanderson That's Cedar Rapids Lens Repair, Storm Door Company _and Surveys_ to you fella! ;-)
Re: Re: auto focus body recommendation solicitation
From: Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/09/28 Wed AM 11:07:03 GMT To: mike wilson pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: auto focus body recommendation solicitation It's Pentax's most capable camera. You'd better make that Pentax's most capable 35mm film camera before you get deluged. Well, some might even quibble over the comparison with other film bodies, too, if more capable is supposed to include more capable of being used and abused in a variety of conditions. I would certainly nominate _at least_ one contender in that sphere. m - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Poll: Holdning the camera right
HA! Dave On 9/28/05, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and I thought I didn't have a life... David Savage wrote: Number 1. This is exactly how I do it. http://tinyurl.com/9kvn3 Just an example of the stupid s$*t I take pictures of. :-) Dave (Yes I meant that how it sounded g) On 9/27/05, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to know how many of you is holding the camera/lens correctly - in the palm of your left hand. Like this: http://www.camerahobby.com/EBook-HoldingCamera_Chapter5Sub.htm Or like this casual shooter: http://www.acclaimimages.com/_gallery/_pages/0041-0505-0723-0557.html Perhaps the recent thread about aperture rings or no aperture ring as well as focusing has something to do with this subject. Regards Jens Bladt Arkitekt MAA http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: anybody still shoot film?
On 9/27/05, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are two Lawrence Livermore Labs. One is classified, the other isn't. I believe it was done that way to confuse people... I don't understand. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
Re: OptioMX snapshots
HA! I love the tape measure race track. Dave On 9/28/05, George Sinos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These photos were taken with the 3 megapixel version of the OptioMX. I've had it for over a year and am still surprised by this odd little camera. It has a nice combination of size and features and is great for those times when you don't want to carry anything very large. Here are a few snapshots taken at a recent event at the Woodsmith Store in Des Moines, Iowa. http://georges.smugmug.com/gallery/842552 See you later, gs http://www.georgesphotos.net
Re: Daily Update-Pentax Petition and Petition Survey
Don. One of the things i wanted to put on the form, and forgot, was ability to recored raw and jpg at the same time. This feature is in the newer Nikons and Canons an i use it on occasion. Can i had that to my list. Dave 960 hits on the web page and 95 submissions so far. We're gettin' there! Let's keep it going and spread the word! I'll be taking flyers to the local Pentax dealers today, they said they'll be happy to leave some out on the counter. Any other ideas? http://www.donsauction.com/Pentax for the survey. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] for comments/suggestions. Thanks! Don
Re: anybody still shoot film?
Scott Loveless wrote: On 9/27/05, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are two Lawrence Livermore Labs. One is classified, the other isn't. I believe it was done that way to confuse people... I don't understand. -- Scott Loveless One LLL is the LL Rad Lab. I don't know what the other one is called. The Rad Lab did all manner of weapons research, as I recall, and all highly classified... keith whaley
Re: Using the right eye, was Re: Poll: Holdning the camera right
I used to use my left eye but my vision has gotten so bad in it that I've had to switch over to the right. It took some getting used to. The thing I like about it is that I can use my left eye to see what is happening outside the viewfinder. Dave On 9/28/05, Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 07:41:29 +0200, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to know how many of you is holding the camera/lens correctly - in the palm of your left hand. Like this: http://www.camerahobby.com/EBook-HoldingCamera_Chapter5Sub.htm Whew, passed that test. Must be because it's in the manual :o) On a related subject: I use my left eye when photographing, like miss Nikon from Jens's link does. Someone once told me to use my right eye, because that would make it easier to see the world outside the viewfinder. I tried, but it's hard to break habits... Anyone care to comment? What eye do you use, and is one better than the other? -- Regards, Lucas
RE: Daily Update-Pentax Petition and Petition Survey
Hi Dave, just fill it out again with the new stuff. We'll take each persons _most recent_ submission so there's no real limit to how many times you can submit. Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 2:55 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Daily Update-Pentax Petition and Petition Survey Don. One of the things i wanted to put on the form, and forgot, was ability to recored raw and jpg at the same time. This feature is in the newer Nikons and Canons an i use it on occasion. Can i had that to my list. Dave 960 hits on the web page and 95 submissions so far. We're gettin' there! Let's keep it going and spread the word! I'll be taking flyers to the local Pentax dealers today, they said they'll be happy to leave some out on the counter. Any other ideas? http://www.donsauction.com/Pentax for the survey. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] for comments/suggestions. Thanks! Don
Re: Folow Up_Pentax repair turn-around time?
Did they happen to say this has or is a problem with the camera. I have noticed on mine when using mf lenses that when the beep says its focused , it does not look 100% in the finder. Moving it off slightly to look focused in the finder, and no beep. Could be why my sister is saying her shots look a bit off using the M50 f 1.7 Dave Talked with a very nice gentleman at Pentax Colorado about my focusing issue. Since the D is under warranty there will be no charge, but normal turnaround is 6-8 weeks! :-( BUT, enclosing an extra $40.00 and sending to a special address guarantees 8 _days_ or less! I think this is very reasonable. They will also clean and inspect everything. The best part though is that the camera will come back to me with a brandy new warranty! This apparently applies to any camera under warranty at the time of the repair, cool. Don, the happy Pentax owner.
Re: anybody still shoot film?
keith_w wrote: One LLL is the LL Rad Lab. I don't know what the other one is called. The Rad Lab did all manner of weapons research, as I recall, and all highly classified... So let me get this straight. You know what they did in the top secret lab but you have no idea what they did in the other one or even what it was called? You're right. It is confusing. Tom Reese
Re: Daily Update-Pentax Petition and Petition Survey
Don Sanderson wrote: Hi Dave, just fill it out again with the new stuff. We'll take each persons _most recent_ submission so there's no real limit to how many times you can submit. Hmmm. That means I can go there and change everyones votes by just entering their names and e-mail addresses. It appears that there is no limit to the evil that film shooters can do either. Tom Reese
Re: OT-- Paranoia
One of those lurking film shooters must have done this to me. http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_005/ g Dave On 9/28/05, Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suspect the digital guys. They will stop at nothing to make film shooters miserable. Tom Reese Graywolf wrote: Since I got out of the hospital my vehicle has been leaking transmission fluid. I crawled underneath today and tightened the transmission pan bolts. All but the one that is hardest to reach were loose 1/2 turn.
Re: The True Meaning of Pictures
On 9/28/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shelby Lee Adams' Appalachia: I recently saw this DVD and thought it might be something a few people on the list might enjoy. Documentarian Jennifer Baichwal tells the stories behind the faces of the Kentucky Appalachian inhabitants -- once labeled hillbillies -- who were originally captured through the camera lens of photographer Shelby Lee Adams 30 years earlier. Baichwal tracks the lives of two families who have each endured their share of heartache throughout their struggle to resist the influence of American popular culture. I think I've seen this one. Was there a discussion from critics/curators WRT the fact that many of his photos were staged, but (apparently) set up to look spontaneous, along with a longish discussion about the famous pig kill shot which was staged, even though pig kills hadn't been done in that town for about 20 years? If so, I saw it, and it's an excellent doc, and I highly recommend it. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
RE: Folow Up_Pentax repair turn-around time?
He didn't say that it was a common problem, as a matter of fact he asked several informed questions leading up to his agreement with my assesment. Didn't sound like canned questions so I'd say not. Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 3:01 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Folow Up_Pentax repair turn-around time? Did they happen to say this has or is a problem with the camera. I have noticed on mine when using mf lenses that when the beep says its focused , it does not look 100% in the finder. Moving it off slightly to look focused in the finder, and no beep. Could be why my sister is saying her shots look a bit off using the M50 f 1.7 Dave Talked with a very nice gentleman at Pentax Colorado about my focusing issue. Since the D is under warranty there will be no charge, but normal turnaround is 6-8 weeks! :-( BUT, enclosing an extra $40.00 and sending to a special address guarantees 8 _days_ or less! I think this is very reasonable. They will also clean and inspect everything. The best part though is that the camera will come back to me with a brandy new warranty! This apparently applies to any camera under warranty at the time of the repair, cool. Don, the happy Pentax owner.
Re: GESO: CNE Airshow 2005
On 9/28/05, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank, was looking for the airshow shots, but at least at the time I looked, I couldn't pull up the full size versions. However I did see this and was dutifully impressed. Great one! http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3175020 Tom C. Thanks for the comment, Tom! So far, I've only put three up in the airshow folder. I didn't have any problem getting into it today, but just in case, here's the individual urls for the three shots: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3755850size=lg http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3755858size=lg http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3755845size=lg just in case you have the time to go look for them again. thanks, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: The True Meaning of Pictures
Shelby Lee Adams' Appalachia: I recently saw this DVD and thought it might be something a few people on the list might enjoy. Thanks for the recommendation Shel. I love that kind of stuff. I'll keep my eye out for it. You piqued my curiosity and I went looking. I found some websites that featured pictures from Adams' various exhibitions and his work is quite moving. Thank you again for posting this. I learned something today. Tom Reese
RE: Daily Update-Pentax Petition and Petition Survey
You'd be trying to Con a Con Tom. Anyone with multiple submissions will be e-mailed to verify their data. Don (Born at night, but not _last_ night.) ;-) -Original Message- From: Tom Reese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 7:35 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Daily Update-Pentax Petition and Petition Survey Don Sanderson wrote: Hi Dave, just fill it out again with the new stuff. We'll take each persons _most recent_ submission so there's no real limit to how many times you can submit. Hmmm. That means I can go there and change everyones votes by just entering their names and e-mail addresses. It appears that there is no limit to the evil that film shooters can do either. Tom Reese
Re: GESO: CNE Airshow 2005
On 9/26/05, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thumbs up! Wish I could watch this show in person. Thanks, Boris!! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: anybody still shoot film?
Tom Reese wrote: keith_w wrote: One LLL is the LL Rad Lab. I don't know what the other one is called. The Rad Lab did all manner of weapons research, as I recall, and all highly classified... So let me get this straight. You know what they did in the top secret lab but you have no idea what they did in the other one or even what it was called? You're right. It is confusing. Tom Reese Let me elucidate... I worked for another company up there, Aerojet General Nucleonics, that did a lot of classified work, and one of my tasks was to interface with and perform work for the Rad Lab. I didn't actually set foot in any of their buildings, nor was I ever personally affiliated with them in any way. I worked for my immediate AGN boss and took direction from him, but it was up to HIM to be the interface/intermediary... So, if there was another name for some other division or subsidiary of the Livermore Labs, I didn't know about it. No need to! We dealt with need to know a LOT in those days... keith whaley
Re: OT-- Paranoia
I had that happen to me once. Funny thing is the other half of the concrete block was used on my girlfriend's car the same night 30 miles away. She was sure it was not her former boyfriend who did it, just a coincidence. Denial is worse than paranoia. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- David Savage wrote: One of those lurking film shooters must have done this to me. http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_005/ g Dave On 9/28/05, Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suspect the digital guys. They will stop at nothing to make film shooters miserable. Tom Reese Graywolf wrote: Since I got out of the hospital my vehicle has been leaking transmission fluid. I crawled underneath today and tightened the transmission pan bolts. All but the one that is hardest to reach were loose 1/2 turn.
Re: Re: OT-- Paranoia
From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/09/28 Wed PM 12:18:18 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT-- Paranoia One of those lurking film shooters must have done this to me. http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_005/ g Dave Was it the roll of Kodachrome I left behind that gave the game away? On 9/28/05, Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suspect the digital guys. They will stop at nothing to make film shooters miserable. Tom Reese Graywolf wrote: Since I got out of the hospital my vehicle has been leaking transmission fluid. I crawled underneath today and tightened the transmission pan bolts. All but the one that is hardest to reach were loose 1/2 turn. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: The Pentax Survey-Participation Question.
This one time, at band camp, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've had over 150 visits to the web site and only 34 people have submitted their entry. Is anyone here one of those who chose not to participate? Why did you so choose, and could I do something better/different on the site to make it more appealing to you to do so? OK, I did the survey ;) Kevin -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
Re: anybody still shoot film?
Come on now, Keith, Scott was expressing confusion... English IS your native language, isn't it? Jokes and the Internet. If it is not idiotically childish no one gets it. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- keith_w wrote: Scott Loveless wrote: On 9/27/05, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are two Lawrence Livermore Labs. One is classified, the other isn't. I believe it was done that way to confuse people... I don't understand. -- Scott Loveless One LLL is the LL Rad Lab. I don't know what the other one is called. The Rad Lab did all manner of weapons research, as I recall, and all highly classified... keith whaley
Re: OT-- Paranoia
They used one of those small bags of pre mix concrete (10-15kg or so). There had been a lot of construction going on in the neighbourhood so the tool's were readily available. I've posted this before, but the thing that really hoovered was that it's my first car, I'd had it for less than 2 weeks when this happened. :-( Getting it fixed was the best $420 I've ever wasted. Dave On 9/28/05, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had that happen to me once. Funny thing is the other half of the concrete block was used on my girlfriend's car the same night 30 miles away. She was sure it was not her former boyfriend who did it, just a coincidence. Denial is worse than paranoia. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- David Savage wrote: One of those lurking film shooters must have done this to me. http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_005/ g Dave On 9/28/05, Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suspect the digital guys. They will stop at nothing to make film shooters miserable. Tom Reese Graywolf wrote: Since I got out of the hospital my vehicle has been leaking transmission fluid. I crawled underneath today and tightened the transmission pan bolts. All but the one that is hardest to reach were loose 1/2 turn.
Re: anybody still shoot film?
keith_w replied to me as follows: Tom Reese wrote: keith_w wrote: One LLL is the LL Rad Lab. I don't know what the other one is called. The Rad Lab did all manner of weapons research, as I recall, and all highly classified... So let me get this straight. You know what they did in the top secret lab but you have no idea what they did in the other one or even what it was called? Let me elucidate... snipped the explanation I thought the irony in your original explanation was pretty funny. It sounds like you did some pretty interesting work back then. Maybe you're the one who should be feeling paranoid... Tom Reese
Re: The Pentax Survey-Participation Question.
Me too. Dave On 9/28/05, Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This one time, at band camp, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've had over 150 visits to the web site and only 34 people have submitted their entry. Is anyone here one of those who chose not to participate? Why did you so choose, and could I do something better/different on the site to make it more appealing to you to do so? OK, I did the survey ;) Kevin -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
Re: Til Death Us Do Part
More importantly someone should tell the bank to stop the automatic payments... Cotty wrote: Someone on another list was asking about laptop memory pricing, asking if there was any tracking sites, and I posted this: Har. There *used* to be : http://www.pbsource.com/ Once upon a time, an active little site - I used to write for them. Then suddenly bam! Nothing. It has frozen in time - literally. Nothing since Feb 11th, 2004. Just like a scene from a sci-fi movie. I tried contacting the owner (Frank Klassner) but never got a reply, so I gave up after 6 months. I feared he must have passed away suddenly or something. Scary thought - who will tell all our online friends in their many and varied forms, the day after we pop *our* clogs.. Perhaps I should leave one file on the desktop of my Pismo called 'Read Me If I Die Unexpectedly'. shiver --- food for thought... Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
DS batteries
A neighbor called at 7:30 AM to say there was a fox sitting on our sidewalk in front of the fire hydrant. I pulled out the DS, slapped on the 400mm, and poked the lens thru the closed front window curtains. The back of the fox nearly filled the frame as I focused. Flip the camera on and press the shutter, but no shutter release! And no lights in the camera, or LCD on the top panel. You know the rest of the story... :-( Regards, Bob S.
Re: My trip to Canada is cancelled
It is a particularly un-convincing looking sheep, but then again that's true of most blowup dolls. Cotty wrote: On 27/9/05, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: These people still have them: http://www.discreetdeliveries.co.uk/servlet141/ItemDetail.jsp?Itemid=828 (Wouldn't you know they were British). Looks like Rudolf with chicken drumsticks glued to him. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: OT-- Paranoia
Steve Jolly wrote: Tom C wrote: It's us here at the PDML... we secretly target someone and then get a lurker in the target city to go around and loosen the bolts on transmisson pans! :) I'm going out to check mine now. Those of us with manual gearboxes or (like me) without cars are unfazed by this new PDML terror, of course... :-) S I take your point about without cars but manual gearboxes also need lubrication.
Re: auto focus body recommendation solicitation
mike wilson wrote: From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/09/28 Wed AM 09:33:23 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: auto focus body recommendation solicitation If you're a bit of a gadget freak, you'll love the PZ1-P. It has just about every facility you can think of, and a great deal of customisability. It's also got fast wind-on and rewind, and fast top shutter speed and flash sync. It's Pentax's most capable camera. You'd better make that Pentax's most capable 35mm film camera before you get deluged. (Which, by the way, I think I already said.) But if you like the simple things in life, it may not be for you. John For those people, who nevertheless still want or need autofocus, the ZX-5n was designed. And if Scott's still curious, there are reviews of the ZX-5 and the PZ-1p on, of all places, photo.net and one of them comments on the overall concept difference between the two.
Re: PESO - The Morning Drive
On 9/27/05, George Sinos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's my morning drive. http://Georges.smugmug.com/photos/37815932-M.jpg Eastbound traffic goes straight into the morning Sun. See you later, gs http://www.georgesphotos.net Cool shot! Considering you were shooting right into the sun, the flare seems really well controlled. Very impressive. What lens? cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PESO - The Morning Drive
Paul Stenquist wrote: Not much fun, is it? But an interesting shot. Good dynamic range and very good flare control. What camera and lens did you shoot with? Yeah, what he said, and also who washed your windscreen? 'Cause it must be very, very clean. It does indeed evoke an emotional response, as someone (I forgot who, please forgive me) commented. I *hate* driving straight into the sun. Mostly a problem I run into on a nearby road toward sunset, myself. On Sep 27, 2005, at 11:56 PM, George Sinos wrote: Here's my morning drive. http://Georges.smugmug.com/photos/37815932-M.jpg Eastbound traffic goes straight into the morning Sun. See you later, gs http://www.georgesphotos.net
Re: OT-- Paranoia
...she broke a lug off as she was parking the car. The other three nuts on the same wheel could be turned by hand. The one that broke off was the only one that was tight. You might be able to notice some wear on the wheel around the loose stud holes. If so, this could be the source of the continual loosening. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT-- Paranoia Scott Loveless wrote: Apparently, they mistook my wife's lug nuts for tranny pan bolts! A couple weeks ago she broke a lug off as she was parking the car. The other three nuts on the same wheel could be turned by hand. So I spent several hours the next day putting in a new lug and making damn sure the nuts were tight on all of them. A week later they were loose again. Funny thing is that I had been checking them daily. I haven't lived here long enough to make enemies. I'm really scared of what they'll do to me after they get to know me around here. :) Oh things will get worse. Much worse. It will start with fingerprints on your lenses, dust on your focusing screens and mysterious smudges on all your filters. Then they'll really get nasty and leave all your film in the hot sun. Those digital guys are pure unadulterated evil... Tom Rees PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: Enabled with A50/1.4
On Sep 28, 2005, at 4:01 AM, Fred wrote: I know how you feel. I have one of those and I like using it more than my FA 50/1.4. Mostly because I manually focus and it has such a nice feel and size of focus ring. The FA 50/1.4 has that small, smooth ring that many of the FA lenses have and just isn't as nice in that regard. But the A and FA versions do appear to be identical optically, though, right, Bruce? I have both as well. While the focus ring is thinner on the FA, I don't find it to be any difficulty. Since I obtained the FA, I find myself using it a lot for both AF and MF. They are supposed to be optically identical, and the performance I see with them bears that out. Godfrey
Re: Enabled with A50/1.4
I'm sure you can special order them if he really wants them... Don Sanderson wrote: Hm, not yet. Don -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 6:21 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Enabled with A50/1.4 Do you sell band uniforms as well? Shel [Original Message] From: Don Sanderson That's Cedar Rapids Lens Repair, Storm Door Company _and Surveys_ to you fella! ;-) -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: anybody still shoot film?
It's true, you can look it up. Scott Loveless wrote: On 9/27/05, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are two Lawrence Livermore Labs. One is classified, the other isn't. I believe it was done that way to confuse people... I don't understand. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: DS batteries
A neighbor called at 7:30 AM to say there was a fox sitting on our sidewalk in front of the fire hydrant. I pulled out the DS, slapped on the 400mm, and poked the lens thru the closed front window curtains. The back of the fox nearly filled the frame as I focused. Flip the camera on and press the shutter, but no shutter release! And no lights in the camera, or LCD on the top panel. You know the rest of the story... :-( 1. Sorry, Bob - yes, I know the rest of the story 2. Now, wouldn't it have been spectacular if the fox, as a true canid, would've used the fire hydrant in the manner that a lot of other canids would have, ~AND~ if you'd've got a photo of ~that~? vbg Fred
Re: anybody still shoot film?
That's part of the beauty of it. If you're a spy, you know what they're doing in the classified lab, but not the details. You have no idea what they're doing in the unclassified lab, so you spend all your time trying to find out... (Ok, so that's not exactly correct, but, it's still funny). Tom Reese wrote: keith_w wrote: One LLL is the LL Rad Lab. I don't know what the other one is called. The Rad Lab did all manner of weapons research, as I recall, and all highly classified... So let me get this straight. You know what they did in the top secret lab but you have no idea what they did in the other one or even what it was called? You're right. It is confusing. Tom Reese -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: OT-- Paranoia
But it is harder to dump all their lubrication all at once, at least on the older ones. E.R.N. Reed wrote: Steve Jolly wrote: Tom C wrote: It's us here at the PDML... we secretly target someone and then get a lurker in the target city to go around and loosen the bolts on transmisson pans! :) I'm going out to check mine now. Those of us with manual gearboxes or (like me) without cars are unfazed by this new PDML terror, of course... :-) S I take your point about without cars but manual gearboxes also need lubrication. -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: Enabled with A50/1.4
First quick comparison, this lens doesn't feel much different than my M wrt focus feel. Of course, the K is noticeably sweeter . Interesting, Shel. Yes, now I remember the K 50/1.4 focus feel - g. I've actually had a number of the various Pentax 50/1.4's over time (including some sweet screwmount ones), but most of them have gone on to new homes (usually along with a body that they were attached to). I think I had only two K 50/1.4's - one went fixed on a lovely black KX and the other left on a nice black K2. I think I still have an SMC Takumar 50/1.4 on my (pre-ES) Electro-Spotmatic body. I'd say that the A 50/1.4 is easily the most used 50 that I still have - I don't have any older K-mount 50/1.4's around any more, and the A 50/1.2 that I also have sees use only for special circumstances (very low light). Oh, I still have one of those really nice A 50/2.8 Macro lenses, which I'll never get rid of. Actually, I do have a handful of M and A (mostly M, I'd say) 50/2's and 50/1.7's kicking around here, but they're sort of un-inventoried... Fred
Re: Off to Cape May and Delaware
I love Cape May. I used to visit often when I lived in Jersey. Beautiful town on a beautiful coast. If you have kids, you should make a stop at Wildwood as well. It's the classic boardwalk amusement park. Paul On 9/27/05, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey gang; I'm off to Cape May for a two-day avian (that's birds frank) snip I knew that! LOL Sounds like an interesting time, Christian. Have fun!! We expect a full report, with photos. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Pictures from a vacation V
On 9/27/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering where she had gotten to. Will she be home in time to cook supper? WW Yeah. I'm pretty quick... -frank vbg -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Enabled with A50/1.4
But the A and FA versions do appear to be identical optically, though, right, Bruce? I have both as well. While the focus ring is thinner on the FA, I don't find it to be any difficulty. Since I obtained the FA, I find myself using it a lot for both AF and MF. They are supposed to be optically identical, and the performance I see with them bears that out. I've considered getting an F or an FA 50/1.4, just for the DS that I now have. I do own mostly mf lenses, but I do have a small number of F and FA lenses, and I've been having some fun with this new-fangled autofocus concept - g. (Although I do have an SF1 and an SF1n - the SF1 is one of those clear plastic see-through demo models - g - and my wife and daughter-in-law both use ZX-5n's, I've actually done very little with af up to now. However, having my new DS is causing me to investigate ~two~ brand new technologies - both didjuhtel and ottofocus - g. However, I see that the supply of F and FA 50/1.4's has kind of dried up, and that the price (due to demand) has also been creeping up, so I might not ever end up with an af 50/1.4 after all... My inventory of F and FA lenses here consists of an F 70-210/4-5.6, a couple of F* 300/4.5's, an FA* 85/1.4 (it's actually my wife's, and I actually have the A* version for my 85), an FA* 80-200/2.8, and an FA 28-210/3.8-5.6. All of these (except for the last one) have been picked up for their optical qualities (af notwithstanding), and have mostly been used for manual focus. However, I've started playing with them on the DS, and - gasp! - I've even been trying them out as jen-you-wine ~autofocus~ lenses - g. Fred
Re: anybody still shoot film?
In a message dated 9/28/2005 4:56:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One LLL is the LL Rad Lab. I don't know what the other one is called. The Rad Lab did all manner of weapons research, as I recall, and all highly classified... keith whaley Now they claim they are doing just high tech laser stuff. (But no one believes them.) Marnie aka Doe
Re: Enabled with A50/1.4
What, me personally? For a 75/1.4 to go on my 35mm? As much as I paid for the 77. Nothing, it's too short to be of use to me, and at that price. YMMV :-) I don't really see myself planning on using my A 50/1.4 as a dedicated portrait lens (at an effective 75/1.4) on my DS. 75mm is for me also a wee bit to wide for the kinds of portraits that I usually take. (However, this is not to say that I won't use the lens on the DS - it's just that I am not used to thinking of portraits (YMMV) at 75mm. Actually, because of the DS's crop factor, I now have a new set of portrait lenses - an A* 127.5/1.4, a K 202.5/2.5, a Tokina AT-X 90-180/2.8, etc. The crop factor is not really that big of a problem - it just requires a bit of a shift in thinking, but the same basic rules (for me) apply - a short portrait lens is for use in tight quarters, while a longer portrait lens is for use in a larger room or outdoors. Fred
Re: OptioMX snapshots
In a message dated 9/28/2005 4:50:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: HA! I love the tape measure race track. Dave On 9/28/05, George Sinos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are a few snapshots taken at a recent event at the Woodsmith Store in Des Moines, Iowa. http://georges.smugmug.com/gallery/842552 See you later, gs http://www.georgesphotos.net == That is a gas. I'd love to see a tape measure race. Marnie aka Doe
Re: Re: auto focus body recommendation solicitation
No need to change it. It's true. You try shooting 36 pictures continuously with the Pentax DSLRs. John On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:05:44 +0100, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/09/28 Wed AM 09:33:23 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: auto focus body recommendation solicitation If you're a bit of a gadget freak, you'll love the PZ1-P. It has just about every facility you can think of, and a great deal of customisability. It's also got fast wind-on and rewind, and fast top shutter speed and flash sync. It's Pentax's most capable camera. You'd better make that Pentax's most capable 35mm film camera before you get deluged. But if you like the simple things in life, it may not be for you. John - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.7/112 - Release Date: 26/09/2005
Re: OptioMX snapshots
Marnie wrote: ... I'd love to see a tape measure race. I'm surprised to hear that say that since you're a libertarian and all. G A tape measure race really isn't very exotic. The tape measure ends are hooked on the end of the track and then the tape measures are pulled out to their limit. They're then let go to see which one retracts (and therefore reaches the end of the track) first. I think the entertainment value is directly proportional to the amount of alcoholic beverages consumed prior to the race. Tom Reese
I still shoot film
I do so liberally and view it as a black and white issue. Politics, and other ticks, only worry me when shooting in the woods. Collin KC8TKA mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
Re: OptioMX snapshots
Tom, So in your opinion a tape measure race - . . . . dosen't . . . . Measure up? parrumph Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OptioMX snapshots Marnie wrote: ... I'd love to see a tape measure race. I'm surprised to hear that say that since you're a libertarian and all. G A tape measure race really isn't very exotic. The tape measure ends are hooked on the end of the track and then the tape measures are pulled out to their limit. They're then let go to see which one retracts (and therefore reaches the end of the track) first. I think the entertainment value is directly proportional to the amount of alcoholic beverages consumed prior to the race. Tom Reese PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: OptioMX snapshots
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 9/28/05, George Sinos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are a few snapshots taken at a recent event at the Woodsmith Store in Des Moines, Iowa. http://georges.smugmug.com/gallery/842552 I love the tape measure race track. That is a gas. I'd love to see a tape measure race. I heard a story on public radio a couple of years ago about a bar in Minnesota (or somewhere similar with long, cold wintersg) that held *belt sander* races. Had a special indoor drag strip built for it. :)
Re: OptioMX snapshots
In grade school we'd stretch toilet paper 50-60 feet across the gymnasium and put one end in those noisy industrial flush toilets. They keep flushing until everything goes down. Toilet paper races. Tom C. From: Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OptioMX snapshots Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:36:35 -0400 Marnie wrote: ... I'd love to see a tape measure race. I'm surprised to hear that say that since you're a libertarian and all. G A tape measure race really isn't very exotic. The tape measure ends are hooked on the end of the track and then the tape measures are pulled out to their limit. They're then let go to see which one retracts (and therefore reaches the end of the track) first. I think the entertainment value is directly proportional to the amount of alcoholic beverages consumed prior to the race. Tom Reese
I Need Suggestions For a Flash Unit (or two, or three...)
Hi, I think Pentax has just recently introduced a flash unit designed with the digital SLRs in mind. There were also a couple of existing Pentax models which were supposed to work pretty well with the *istDS. Then, I've found that Sigma makes a couple flash units which should work pretty well on the *istDS. Are there any others worth considering? I'm interested to know what flash unit people on this list have used on their *istDS cameras, and which ones they recommend. The Sigma units could save me some money, but I'm not sure what I might be giving up. I think the things that are most important to me are high power, and the ability to use multiple flash units with relative ease. I might even consider getting some studio monolights, if I could find some inexpensive ones worth buying. I guess what I really want is something in between the typical studio strobes and simple on-camera flash. I need something very portable, but with the ability to easily use multiple flash units. thanks, Glen
