RE: OT: Bad taste
Actaully, I think it adds a lot. Simplicity! It's like writing a script or a sentence and then taking out all the words that are not really needed. To make the message stronger and clearer. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 13. juli 2006 04:34 Til: pdml@pdml.net Emne: Re: OT: Bad taste In a message dated 7/12/2006 2:20:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is this considered bad taste in the photographic world? http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/188146656/ I kind a like it. Regards Jens Bladt I don't know that it's bad taste. I just don't feel it adds much. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/385 - Release Date: 07/11/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/385 - Release Date: 07/11/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Bad taste
No problem, Ann: This is the original shot, except is cropped: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/187984910/in/set-72157594196654606/ Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Ann Sanfedele Sendt: 12. juli 2006 23:11 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: OT: Bad taste Jens Bladt wrote: Is this considered bad taste in the photographic world? http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/188146656/ I kind a like it. Regards Jens Bladt Pretty girl - I'd much rather see her without the elaborate photoshopping since there is an entire film just out that looks like this, I guess I'm just not with it ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/385 - Release Date: 07/11/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/385 - Release Date: 07/11/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Ruth on her Porch
On Jul 12, 2006, at 12:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very nice. I bet she makes great quilts. Probably good apple pies as well:-). Paul Thanks, Paul. I didn't get a chance to ask her about apple pies. Maybe next visit. Doug -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Bad taste
In a message dated 7/12/2006 11:01:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actaully, I think it adds a lot. Simplicity! It's like writing a script or a sentence and then taking out all the words that are not really needed. To make the message stronger and clearer. Regards Jens Bladt If you like it, Jens, go with it. Me, well, I'd abstract it even more, if I was PSing it. I almost said that before but I could not give you a good explanation as to why. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Cockerill Ougree
In a message dated 7/11/2006 12:06:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Another one from nightly Liège. http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/cat/656/display/6129149 Comments and suggestions, as always, most welcome. Ralf == I really like it. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: More Fungus!
On Jul 13, 2006, at 3:23 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: After yesterday's discovery of that old fungus shot, I decided to revamp my fungus photo gallery. (And yes, I am a sad git to actually have a gallery of fungus photos, aren't I? g) http://www.robertstech.com/fungus.htm We had one of these growing in our garden this winter: http://www.hiddenforest.co.nz/fungi/family/phallaceae/phall06p.htm At first I thought it was a kid's toy that had come in on then-recent floodwaters. I didn't take any photos. I should go and look to see if it's still there... - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Ruth on her Porch
On Jul 12, 2006, at 1:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice. I like the pole being in between her and the chair. Don't know why, its just an appealing part of the photo. Oh and i liked your musician shots to. I think it was the drummer at the bottom in sort of a reddish light. Liked that one. Dave The pole is one of the things I liked about the shot too. There are a lot of lines here, and the pole serves as one of the lines, besides being a great prop for Ruth. Thanks for looking. Doug -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Ruth on her Porch
On Jul 12, 2006, at 1:42 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I'm guessing that what I like most about this shot is why you took it - cheeky broad that I am. It might have been fun to not tell us what she does and ask people to guess... your photo being rather quiltlike itself. One tiny nit - can you give a little more light to her face without it looking too photoshopped? nice going, Doug ann Yes, the shot is sort of quilty. I was walking back to the truck and as I turned, I took in the chair and the siding and all the squares here and there, with her approaching the front of the porch, I just whipped the camera up and fired a frame. I wasn't sure I got a shot at all until I started the editing. I'll take a look at it in the morning and see if the face needs more light. It might be tough, because the light was quite muted. Thanks for the suggestion, and for looking. Doug -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: More Fungus!
In a message dated 7/12/2006 8:25:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After yesterday's discovery of that old fungus shot, I decided to revamp my fungus photo gallery. (And yes, I am a sad git to actually have a gallery of fungus photos, aren't I? g) http://www.robertstech.com/fungus.htm -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia No, actually, they are weirdly interesting. Nature shapes, but nature shapes already abstracted. Those are lovely photos, Mark. Marnie aka Doe Wonder if there is any fungus around here? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: magic hour
Doug Franklin wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: Interesting, I like it. Paul On Jul 13, 2006, at 4:53 AM, jim kerslake wrote: Some evening colours for you... Just a small illustration of Magic Hour light - falling on some otherwise quite dull vegetation. There's something terribly wrong with that photo. I can't yet put my finger on what is wrong, but something is. Wrong? I'm not sure. It looks strange and I'm not sure whether I like it or not. Keith McG -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Seriously Off Topic: War is starting in Israel
keith_w wrote: frank theriault wrote: On 7/12/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd just like to apologise for the war. I'd like to apologize for Cotty's apology. cheers, frank I'm sorry you said that... Given the circumstances, I think that these apologies are in poor taste. On behalf of the list, I would like to apologise. Keith McG (Who has no intention of making any other comment on this thread.) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Ruth on her Porch
On Jul 12, 2006, at 5:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, personally, I just do better looking at PESOs vs GESOs. Usually if there are still PESOs in my inbox I haven't looked at I look at them first. Then GESOs later. Makes sense. Right now, surprise, surprise, my box is full. I'm shocked. Nice one. What an interesting project. I'd like to see if online when you are done. It might take me a while to get it all together. My plan is to spend more time out at the sites to get more action shots, if you can all quilting action. Unfortunately, many of the hand-quilters are disappearing, like so many other skilled people, so I'd like to try to get them photographed. The short term, of course, is the quilt show, but I see this carrying on past that. When I do get enough for a decent collection, I'll be sure to share. But then you might not look at it because it's a gallery. Bummer. I love her shoes. :-) I thought they were great. I'm glad I got a shot with those shoes. Marnie aka Doe Thanks, Marnie Doug -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: More Fungus!
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Wed, 12 Jul 2006, Mark Roberts wrote: After yesterday's discovery of that old fungus shot, I decided to revamp my fungus photo gallery. (And yes, I am a sad git to actually have a gallery of fungus photos, aren't I? g) http://www.robertstech.com/fungus.htm I don't think you are, Mark, I find they are colourful and with varied, interesting shapes, and as such they are as suitable for photography as flowers, cultivated or wild. I like these a lot. Keith McG -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: New favourite body
Tattooine, of course. G On Jul 12, 2006, at 7:07 PM, cbwaters wrote: what planet are you ON??? CW - Original Message - From: keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 7:49 PM Subject: Re: New favourite body Aaron Reynolds wrote: The MZ-5 and -5n were absolute classics -- the first time I saw the 5 was the first time I was tempted by a modern body. Still, I had become so accustomed to easily changing the shutter speed while looking through the viewfinder of the ME Super that I just couldn't go back. Heck, I almost bought a 67II to replace my 67 because it's a giant ME Super, control-wise. An MZ-5 with a thumbwheel for the shutter speed would be perfection. -Aaron There was only one perfect body...Princess Leia! But, that was then, this is now... keith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/386 - Release Date: 7/12/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Ruth on her Porch
On Jul 12, 2006, at 5:43 PM, frank theriault wrote: Reminds me of my late grandmother. Nice relaxed portrait, obviously taken in an environment in which she's familiar and comfortable. I like! cheers, frank Thanks, Frank. She had this amazing little house that, as I understood it, sits directly on top of the intersection of three counties. A friend who introduced us told me that they joke about which sheriff has jurisdiction in which corner of the house. The floor in the sitting room is quite uneven, and I nearly fell several times walking from one side of the room to the other. She congratulated me the first time I remembered the drop-off. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: magic hour
Keith McGuinness wrote: Doug Franklin wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: Interesting, I like it. Paul On Jul 13, 2006, at 4:53 AM, jim kerslake wrote: Some evening colours for you... Just a small illustration of Magic Hour light - falling on some otherwise quite dull vegetation. There's something terribly wrong with that photo. I can't yet put my finger on what is wrong, but something is. Wrong? I'm not sure. It looks strange and I'm not sure whether I like it or not. I'm not sure yet. I think it has to do, at least somewhat, with the drastically oversharpened feel I get from the photo. The colors are somehow not right, too. Something about it is severely foreboding, almost evil. That probably says more about me than the photo. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Seriously Off Topic: War is starting in Israel
Keith McGuinness wrote: Given the circumstances, I think that these apologies are in poor STOP THAT! STOP THAT! :-) Sorry, I don't know how to evoke a Graham Chapman accent in an email. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Ruth on her Porch
In a message dated 7/12/2006 11:31:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But then you might not look at it because it's a gallery. Bummer. === LOL. Marnie -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO:Fadista Joana Amendoeira
In a message dated 7/10/2006 12:48:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=39557refid=999ref=author DS Tamron 28-75/2,8 @ 55mm, f:4, 1/20s, 1600 ISO raw. I used a tripod. It’s a pain in the ..., but its well worth the effort I'd say. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) == That is a very good shot. Very good. But what is that sort of smoky thing in the air above her? It looks like some kind of symbol. Not going to say what I think it is a symbol of. ;-) Hate to admit it, I find it distracting. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Seriously Off Topic: War is starting in Israel
- Original Message - From: keith_w Subject: Re: Seriously Off Topic: War is starting in Israel I don't plan to be subjected to your inflammatory dialog anymore. You're a grossly intolerant person, in my opinion, and I will only suffer argument from rational persons. You're no longer one of that set... you're plonked, as of right now. Keith, could you do us both a favour and kill file me as well? You should do it sooner rather than later. Thanks William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: OT: Bad taste
I see. I'd like to do that too - but I don't really know how. I would also like to change colours - Andy Warhol like. But these colour tools are kinda tricky to figure out in PS ;-) BTW: I like my square version a lot http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/188559013/ In the version for printing, I have solved the edge problem mentioned by Paul Stenquist. NJot in the web version, though. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 13. juli 2006 08:04 Til: pdml@pdml.net Emne: Re: OT: Bad taste In a message dated 7/12/2006 11:01:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actaully, I think it adds a lot. Simplicity! It's like writing a script or a sentence and then taking out all the words that are not really needed. To make the message stronger and clearer. Regards Jens Bladt If you like it, Jens, go with it. Me, well, I'd abstract it even more, if I was PSing it. I almost said that before but I could not give you a good explanation as to why. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/385 - Release Date: 07/11/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/385 - Release Date: 07/11/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO - Anchors Aweigh! (Kids at Play)
From the climate controlled vault @ Casa Belinkoff, photo made with the Sony DSC-S85 http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/anchors.html Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Bad taste
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/07/12 Wed PM 10:10:14 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: Bad taste She's a scary-looking woman. I found her home page. It has a photo of her looking winsome: http://www.tammyfaye.com/ Personally, I prefer America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers: http://www.bettybowers.com/ The claim to be America's best Christian is blatantly derogatory to the office of President. Sounds like threat to homeland security to me. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Re: New favourite body
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/07/13 Thu AM 05:01:04 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: New favourite body Tattooine, of course. G To the melody of American Pie http://www.thelyricssite.com/Music_And_Song_Lyrics_Home.php?search=songidid=1326 On Jul 12, 2006, at 7:07 PM, cbwaters wrote: what planet are you ON??? CW - Original Message - From: keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 7:49 PM Subject: Re: New favourite body Aaron Reynolds wrote: The MZ-5 and -5n were absolute classics -- the first time I saw the 5 was the first time I was tempted by a modern body. Still, I had become so accustomed to easily changing the shutter speed while looking through the viewfinder of the ME Super that I just couldn't go back. Heck, I almost bought a 67II to replace my 67 because it's a giant ME Super, control-wise. An MZ-5 with a thumbwheel for the shutter speed would be perfection. -Aaron There was only one perfect body...Princess Leia! But, that was then, this is now... keith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/386 - Release Date: 7/12/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Seriously Off Topic: War is starting in Israel
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: keith_w Subject: Re: Seriously Off Topic: War is starting in Israel I don't plan to be subjected to your inflammatory dialog anymore. You're a grossly intolerant person, in my opinion, and I will only suffer argument from rational persons. You're no longer one of that set... you're plonked, as of right now. Keith, could you do us both a favour and kill file me as well? You should do it sooner rather than later. Thanks William Robb Rather not, Wm. Thanks for offering, tho'. ;-) keith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A Winogrand picture
On Wed, 12 Jul 2006, Paul Stenquist wrote: Great pic. Bt if someone posted this as a PAW, someone else would undoubtedly say, Not enough DOF. Her hand and the back of the man's head are soft. And she has a horrible expression. What were you trying to say here? vbg http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/ho/11/na/hob_1992.5107.htm I think it exhudes joy. Possibly even one-sided. Tremendous... Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Bad taste
On an individual level? Of course. Art is subjective. Paul On Jul 12, 2006, at 7:26 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Bad taste . If you like it, it's good. Tell me you don't really believe that. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Panorama stitching software
Some time back I got a few programs to join pictures. They were lost when a nasty crash left me in a mess. What is the best free software available now? I'd like to try again. Don -- Dr E D F Williams www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/ 41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Safety
frank theriault wrote: On 7/12/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could be. Only one way to be sure - check what kind of beer is available... You don't normally drink, do you, Norm? I've seen Norm drink and normally isn't how I'd describe it. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Panorama stitching software
Autostitch - free http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~mbrown/autostitch/autostitch.html Hugin - free http://hugin.sourceforge.net/ PTGui - not free (this is what I use) http://www.ptgui.com/ HTH Dave On 7/13/06, Don Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some time back I got a few programs to join pictures. They were lost when a nasty crash left me in a mess. What is the best free software available now? I'd like to try again. Don -- Dr E D F Williams www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/ 41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Safety
On 7/13/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: frank theriault wrote: On 7/12/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could be. Only one way to be sure - check what kind of beer is available... You don't normally drink, do you, Norm? I've seen Norm drink and normally isn't how I'd describe it. Normal for a fish? Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Safety
On 7/13/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've seen Norm drink and normally isn't how I'd describe it. There's not much about Norm that could be described as normal. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Seriously Off Topic: War is starting in Israel
On 7/13/06, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith McGuinness wrote: Given the circumstances, I think that these apologies are in poor STOP THAT! STOP THAT! :-) Sorry, I don't know how to evoke a Graham Chapman accent in an email. :-) All right, then, that's it. This whole thread is under arrest. Come on, then! cheers, a police officer -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A Winogrand picture
On 7/12/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great pic. Bt if someone posted this as a PAW, someone else would undoubtedly say, Not enough DOF. Her hand and the back of the man's head are soft. And she has a horrible expression. What were you trying to say here? vbg ROTFLMAO!!! -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A Winogrand picture
On 7/12/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've never seen this photo by Winogrand before, so I thought I'd pass it on in case others hadn't. It's really scary: http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/ho/11/na/hob_1992.5107.htm Bob IT'S THE EX!!! suffering from horrendous flashbacks, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Canon imagePROGRAF iPF5000 Printer
Luminous Landscape has a very positive review of it up, giving it slightly better marks than the 4800. -Adam Antti-Pekka Virjonen wrote: Hi, Anyone using the fascinating new Canon printer? I am considering getting this instead of the Epson 4800. Antti-Pekka Antti-Pekka Virjonen Computec Oy www.computec.fi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Flash Question
Does any Pentax flashes provide red ligt (infrared light) for triggering studio strobes? Some flashes has a transparent red glas somewhere at the front. Do any of thes work as a flash trigger. (I had a very good Bron cube, which I seem to have lost :-(. I still have a Elincrome (Prolinca) which is not very good (works only if pointed directly at the strobe). It would be nice to have a flash that does this, without flashing white light all over the place. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Butch Black Sendt: 11. juli 2006 04:29 Til: Pentax discussion group Emne: Re: Do not warm colours I doubt that minilabs are consistent. A couple of month ago, the guy at the place where I get films developed and printed was switching from AGFA to FUJI paper and on his desk were a couple of test pictures (just ordinary snapshots!) with different colour settings. He was deciding the setting by judging the different results. The settings of the next minilab user will most probably deviate from his settings. Groeten, Vic If you were lucky they were working on balancing the channels for the new paper. Most minilabs have a master paper balance and then separate film channels which adjust from there. If done right you should get as good results once finished. If, on the other hand. the tech was just doing a quick and dirty test to see what adjustments to make while printing, then your fears of inconsistency with different operators is well founded. Butch -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/384 - Release Date: 07/10/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/387 - Release Date: 07/12/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Bad taste
mike wilson wrote: She's a scary-looking woman. I found her home page. It has a photo of her looking winsome: http://www.tammyfaye.com/ Some years ago, when the Bakkers were much more in the news, I was at a T Shirt shop in Charlotte and saw a T Shirt that had a big multicolored smudge on the front, and said I Ran Into Tammy Faye At The Mall. I almost fell out of my chair. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Seriously Off Topic: War is starting in Israel
Bob Sullivan wrote: Don, You have to put your personal feelings aside. We expressed concern for a friend who's country was going to war. (And John, war is a descriptive term not a political statement.) I think I'll have to disagree with that. War is of course descriptive in one sense, but where and when exactly war starts (in a place with so much unrest) is quite definitely a matter of option, and defining it is at least to a certain degree a question of where you stand politically. I started thinking about the politicians in this country, now, and how they will always describe international missions Norwegian soldiers are involved in, as limited military operations or whatever. Because this is a peaceful country, you see, so we never take part in wars... You are right to be concerned, of course. What Don and John (and some others) say can however, if you are somewhat generous, be translated to we should have started worrying a long time ago.. - Toralf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A Winogrand picture
On 7/13/06, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/12/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've never seen this photo by Winogrand before, so I thought I'd pass it on in case others hadn't. It's really scary: http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/ho/11/na/hob_1992.5107.htm Bob IT'S THE EX!!! suffering from horrendous flashbacks, frank Was she a vampire? That's what I thought of when I saw it. Dave ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Flash Question
AFAIK, the red windows on the front of the Pentax flashes are for autofocus only. Pentax did make a flash distributor years ago that allows for multi-flash TTL metering. I wonder how many they actually sold. I got one at what must have been a very good price (or I wouldn't have bought it) off of KEH a few years ago. I don't know if this helps or not but I at least I got to mention a long forgotten gizmo. Tom Reese -- Original message -- From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does any Pentax flashes provide red ligt (infrared light) for triggering studio strobes? Some flashes has a transparent red glas somewhere at the front. Do any of thes work as a flash trigger. (I had a very good Bron cube, which I seem to have lost :-(. I still have a Elincrome (Prolinca) which is not very good (works only if pointed directly at the strobe). It would be nice to have a flash that does this, without flashing white light all over the place. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Butch Black Sendt: 11. juli 2006 04:29 Til: Pentax discussion group Emne: Re: Do not warm colours I doubt that minilabs are consistent. A couple of month ago, the guy at the place where I get films developed and printed was switching from AGFA to FUJI paper and on his desk were a couple of test pictures (just ordinary snapshots!) with different colour settings. He was deciding the setting by judging the different results. The settings of the next minilab user will most probably deviate from his settings. Groeten, Vic If you were lucky they were working on balancing the channels for the new paper. Most minilabs have a master paper balance and then separate film channels which adjust from there. If done right you should get as good results once finished. If, on the other hand. the tech was just doing a quick and dirty test to see what adjustments to make while printing, then your fears of inconsistency with different operators is well founded. Butch -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/384 - Release Date: 07/10/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/387 - Release Date: 07/12/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Flash Question
On 13.07.2006, at 14:35 , Tom Reese wrote: Pentax did make a flash distributor years ago that allows for multi- flash TTL metering. I wonder how many they actually sold. I got one at what must have been a very good price (or I wouldn't have bought it) off of KEH a few years ago. I don't know if this helps or not but I at least I got to mention a long forgotten gizmo. Tom, that's really interesting. Cold write more about this? Eventually post some photos of this item??? Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Flash Question
The only flashes I know of which can IR trigger (Nikon SB-50DX and SB-30) use a IR filter in front of the main flash tube to do so. The red plastic covers the AF assist only on just about every non-Canon flash I've run across (The Canon EZ series flashes use an IR preflash from the AF-Assist when in A-TTL mode) -Adam Jens Bladt wrote: Does any Pentax flashes provide red ligt (infrared light) for triggering studio strobes? Some flashes has a transparent red glas somewhere at the front. Do any of thes work as a flash trigger. (I had a very good Bron cube, which I seem to have lost :-(. I still have a Elincrome (Prolinca) which is not very good (works only if pointed directly at the strobe). It would be nice to have a flash that does this, without flashing white light all over the place. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Butch Black Sendt: 11. juli 2006 04:29 Til: Pentax discussion group Emne: Re: Do not warm colours I doubt that minilabs are consistent. A couple of month ago, the guy at the place where I get films developed and printed was switching from AGFA to FUJI paper and on his desk were a couple of test pictures (just ordinary snapshots!) with different colour settings. He was deciding the setting by judging the different results. The settings of the next minilab user will most probably deviate from his settings. Groeten, Vic If you were lucky they were working on balancing the channels for the new paper. Most minilabs have a master paper balance and then separate film channels which adjust from there. If done right you should get as good results once finished. If, on the other hand. the tech was just doing a quick and dirty test to see what adjustments to make while printing, then your fears of inconsistency with different operators is well founded. Butch -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/384 - Release Date: 07/10/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/387 - Release Date: 07/12/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A Winogrand picture
On 7/13/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was she a vampire? That's what I thought of when I saw it. She certainly sucked the lifeblood out of me. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Ask me anything about the Dicain SG-1 shutter grip
I got one of these gizmos a couple of weeks ago in a trade with Adam Maas that saw me abandon my rarely-used LX. (I bought the LX when my ME Super broke the day before a gig and I just happened to stumble across a well-priced LX -- used it for that gig and then bought another ME Super. Once you break free of the shutter speed dial it's incredibly hard to go back.) http://www.dicain.com/2002/zb/view.php?id=noticeno=61 I've been fooling around with it for a couple of weeks and intend to use it during a job this weekend. I haven't had time to write up a review, but I'll gladly answer questions about it. Briefly: CONS The DS2 was not designed to take a vertical release grip, so your control is limited to the shutter button. The hollow area under the grip seems to magnify the sound of the shutter and AF. Slightly lighter in colour than the DS2 body. Ugly as sin. PROS It actually works. It's well balanced yet doesn't add much weight to the kit. The pop-out wired remote includes a lock for bulb exposures. It appears to have made my hand-held verticals far more stable at low shutter speeds. All in all, it is very much what I was expecting and I'm happy with it. So, what do you want to know? -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Flash Question
I did a little checking. Boz has a picture of one on his website. It uses the 4P cabling system which is apparently incompatible with the current 5P system. It of seemingly limited value to anyone using current Pentax equipment. Tom Reese -- Original message -- From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 13.07.2006, at 14:35 , Tom Reese wrote: Pentax did make a flash distributor years ago that allows for multi- flash TTL metering. I wonder how many they actually sold. I got one at what must have been a very good price (or I wouldn't have bought it) off of KEH a few years ago. I don't know if this helps or not but I at least I got to mention a long forgotten gizmo. Tom, that's really interesting. Cold write more about this? Eventually post some photos of this item??? Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
70mm macro lens?
This looks interesting, a new Sigma 70mm f/2.8 macro lens: http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/press_release_email5.htm Not cheap (probably a good sign). And covers full-frame for film users and Canon FF digital shooters. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 70mm macro lens?
On 7/13/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This looks interesting, a new Sigma 70mm f/2.8 macro lens: http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/press_release_email5.htm Not cheap (probably a good sign). And covers full-frame for film users and Canon FF digital shooters. Thanks for the link, Mark. This looks interesting. Any idea what the price point might be? I didn't see a suggested price listed. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 70mm macro lens?
Mark, Where did you get pricing info for this lens (and how much is it going to cost)? Still interesting or sad to see that Pentax mount won't be released until later. Perry. On 7/13/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This looks interesting, a new Sigma 70mm f/2.8 macro lens: http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/press_release_email5.htm Not cheap (probably a good sign). And covers full-frame for film users and Canon FF digital shooters. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Perry Pellechia Primary email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alternate email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://homer.chem.sc.edu/perry -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 70mm macro lens?
Mark Roberts wrote: This looks interesting, a new Sigma 70mm f/2.8 macro lens: http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/press_release_email5.htm Not cheap (probably a good sign). And covers full-frame for film users and Canon FF digital shooters. Looks interesting. Might make a nice digital portrait lens as well, given the focal length. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
OT: Humor
For those fans of the Dead Parrot Skit on this list, here is a bit from Graham Chapman's funeral. WARNING: Adult Language http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsHk9WC7fnQeurl -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A Winogrand picture
David Savage wrote: On 7/13/06, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/12/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've never seen this photo by Winogrand before, so I thought I'd pass it on in case others hadn't. It's really scary: http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/ho/11/na/hob_1992.5107.htm Bob IT'S THE EX!!! suffering from horrendous flashbacks, frank Was she a vampire? That's what I thought of when I saw it. Dave ;-) More like a Shark, (based on the teeth)... (By the way, why was the tooth brush invented in Arkansas?...Because if it were invented anywhere else it would be called a teeth brush. Rimshot) -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Birth of George Eastman
Might be more appropriate to celebrate the day he killed himself, since Kodak seems determined to follow his example. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 70mm macro lens?
Perry Pellechia wrote: Where did you get pricing info for this lens (and how much is it going to cost)? Still interesting or sad to see that Pentax mount won't be released until later. I got an email from Sigma. (I signed up to get emails from them when I was waiting for the EF 500 DG Super flash to become available for Pentax and I haven't unsubscribed since they only 1 or 2 messages a year.) They say MSRP is $570.00 US. It's typical for the Minolta (now Sony) and Pentax mounts to become available somewhat later than the Nikon and Canon versions. I guess it's pretty reasonable for Sigma to go for the bigger selling mounts first. I expect that the Pentax version is being treated with more urgency than it was a few years ago, though. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Panorama stitching software
Okay I tried a quick pano half an hour ago and stitched it with autostitch. The edges match very well. There are a few messy bits where the adjacent frame was either lighter or darker, but the image is blurred like it was taken with a terrible lens -- really terrible. So I tried it with only three of the nine pictures and it was less so, but still awful. I have to be doing something wrong, but its not obvious. I can't see anything I can do from a perusal of the menus. Each picture I used was sharp and in focus. Don -- Dr E D F Williams www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/ 41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 70mm macro lens?
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/07/13 Thu PM 01:23:58 GMT To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: 70mm macro lens? This looks interesting, a new Sigma 70mm f/2.8 macro lens: http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/press_release_email5.htm Not cheap (probably a good sign). And covers full-frame for film users and Canon FF digital shooters. No aperture ring, so only of interest to Z1-p, etc. users. Unusual length for 35mm. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Bad taste
Depends upon how one decides to use it, I think. Like most tools the results depend upon the user as much as on the tool. BTW, Norman Rockwell's paintings all started out as photographs. No he did not paint over photos. He used the photos, shot in his studio, as references to paint from. I guess you could say his people paintings were still lifes of photographs grin. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Bob W wrote: it all depends on whether you think the camera is a picture-making tool, or a recording device. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jens Bladt Sent: 12 July 2006 23:16 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: Bad taste To me: All images are abstractions (of reality or imaginations) - it IS NOT real life. So, I don't see anything wrong in making images with all kind of tools, bruches, chalk, coal, film, CCD's, computers etc. Adding or subtracting to/from the real thing is a statement. Images without a statement are poor communication. Making images is communicating - like using a language. Nevertheless - IO have been trying to redo the effect-iamge in a larger format. No luck. The effect dies when I use more pixels. So I just enlarged the firt one. I put it here (buttom of the page): http://www.jensbladt.dk/Modelnight/Pernille-site.html I'd like to have it printed really big. I think I'm beginn to understand what Andy Warhol did to Marilyn Monroe - not that ther'es any comparison to my photgraph at all ;-l) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 70mm macro lens?
Mark Roberts wrote: They say MSRP is $570.00 US. BTW: This probably suggests a $499.00 street price, I'd guess. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 70mm macro lens?
Mark Roberts wrote: This looks interesting, a new Sigma 70mm f/2.8 macro lens: http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/press_release_email5.htm Not cheap (probably a good sign). And covers full-frame for film users and Canon FF digital shooters. Just noticed this on the web page: This medium telephoto macro lens is ideal for both digital SLR cameras and 35mm film SLR cameras. AND this: Vignetting will occur if the lens is used with digital cameras with image sensors larger than APS-C size or 35mm SLR cameras. Since this lens does not carry the DC model designation of their cropped-sensor-format lenses, I suspect the second statement is there because someone did a cut-and-paste job on the wrong boilerplate text. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Panorama stitching software
I'm not a big fan of Autostich, but have you tried adjusting the scale jpeg settings in the options. Can you post an example or the files your trying to stitch? Dave On 7/13/06, Don Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay I tried a quick pano half an hour ago and stitched it with autostitch. The edges match very well. There are a few messy bits where the adjacent frame was either lighter or darker, but the image is blurred like it was taken with a terrible lens -- really terrible. So I tried it with only three of the nine pictures and it was less so, but still awful. I have to be doing something wrong, but its not obvious. I can't see anything I can do from a perusal of the menus. Each picture I used was sharp and in focus. Don -- Dr E D F Williams www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/ 41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 70mm macro lens?
Not cheap (probably a good sign). And covers full-frame for film users and Canon FF digital shooters. This statement is confusing: Vignetting will occur if the lens is used with digital cameras with image sensors larger than APS-C size or 35mm SLR cameras. But the DG designation means it's full frame, so why the vignetting? Amita -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 70mm macro lens?
On 7/13/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perry Pellechia wrote: Where did you get pricing info for this lens (and how much is it going to cost)? Still interesting or sad to see that Pentax mount won't be released until later. I got an email from Sigma. (I signed up to get emails from them when I was waiting for the EF 500 DG Super flash to become available for Pentax and I haven't unsubscribed since they only 1 or 2 messages a year.) They say MSRP is $570.00 US. It's typical for the Minolta (now Sony) and Pentax mounts to become available somewhat later than the Nikon and Canon versions. I guess it's pretty reasonable for Sigma to go for the bigger selling mounts first. I expect that the Pentax version is being treated with more urgency than it was a few years ago, though. -- Thanks Mark, Could be an interesting lens. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 70mm macro lens?
mike wilson wrote: From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] This looks interesting, a new Sigma 70mm f/2.8 macro lens: http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/press_release_email5.htm Not cheap (probably a good sign). And covers full-frame for film users and Canon FF digital shooters. No aperture ring, so only of interest to Z1-p, etc. users. Well, from my photography teaching experience I can (sadly) report that the vast majority of users in the real world use their cameras in Program exposure mode, so it's compatible with all the A series cameras, all the P series, all the SF series, all the PZ series and all the MZ/ZX series. And the *ist film camera. Unusual length for 35mm. Yeah, they should have made it 77mm :) -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 70mm macro lens?
Unusual length for 35mm. Yeah, they should have made it 77mm :) -- This comment reminds me of a question I always had about the Limited's. I know the reason for the 43mm focal length (true normal), but what is significant about 31mm and 77mm? Anyone know? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Cave stuff
Nice. Dave Quoting Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Taken in Black Chasm Caverns - some ribbonlike stalactite formation. Pentax *istD, FA 50/1.4, Handheld ISO 3200, 1/45 sec @ f/5.6 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/blackchasm_0065a.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 70mm macro lens?
Perry Pellechia wrote: Unusual length for 35mm. Yeah, they should have made it 77mm :) This comment reminds me of a question I always had about the Limited's. I know the reason for the 43mm focal length (true normal), but what is significant about 31mm and 77mm? Anyone know? Well the word is that there really isn't anything special about the numbers 31 and 77, it's just that most lenses, from all manufacturers, aren't named with their actual focal length but with the standard number that's closest. In other words, a 100mm lens might actually be anywhere from 95mm to 104mm, but gets the 100 designation just to make it easier to remember. Sometimes lens tests will list the actual measured focal length as well as the designated focal length. With the 31 Ltd and 77 Ltd, Pentax apparently just gave the lenses names that were indicative of their actual focal length. An unromantic explanation, I realize, but what can you do? :) -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Breakfast at Tina's Creekside Cafe
Is it me, or do people tend to give you dirty looks in you people photography. g Nice shot and i like how every one is doing theier thing, and the lady is doing here. Dave Quoting Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/bkfast_tina.html This was something of a stealth photo. The camera was aligned and framed without my looking through the viewfinder, and as such, was placed at a low angle. Had to crop some of the lower area because of interference by some furniture. Also, the 24mm FOV was a little narrow for this shot, and there was nowhere else for me to sit - a 20mm would have provided for a little better framing room. I thought about using the 16-45 for this shot, but felt it would call far too much attention to itself. istDS, K24/2.8 @ f/11, ISO 800 Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PAW - Sunset over Lake Pukaki
Nice composition and colours are great. Dave Quoting David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: One from my latest batch of scans... http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/photodb/view.php?p=460t=1 - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Bad taste
On Jul 13, 2006, at 7:28, Doug Franklin wrote: Some years ago, when the Bakkers were much more in the news, I was at a T Shirt shop in Charlotte and saw a T Shirt that had a big multicolored smudge on the front, and said I Ran Into Tammy Faye At The Mall. I almost fell out of my chair. I *OWNED* that shirt and absolutely loved it. Over the years it finally wore out and I had to get rid of it. Wish I'd bought 3 or 4 of them at the time - it never failed to get an enthusiastic reaction from people walking by. -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Panorama stitching software
Yes, try setting the output to 100% and the jpeg quality to its highest. Lou -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Savage Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:38 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Panorama stitching software I'm not a big fan of Autostich, but have you tried adjusting the scale jpeg settings in the options. Can you post an example or the files your trying to stitch? Dave On 7/13/06, Don Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay I tried a quick pano half an hour ago and stitched it with autostitch. The edges match very well. There are a few messy bits where the adjacent frame was either lighter or darker, but the image is blurred like it was taken with a terrible lens -- really terrible. So I tried it with only three of the nine pictures and it was less so, but still awful. I have to be doing something wrong, but its not obvious. I can't see anything I can do from a perusal of the menus. Each picture I used was sharp and in focus. Don -- Dr E D F Williams www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/ 41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Grace on the Fourth of July
Lovely shot Paul. I can just here her telling you what she is doing with the grass. I missed most of my daughters growing up years, and i know what you are getting at. I'm looking forward to grand kids one day. Just to try and make up in some way. Dave Quoting Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]: These days I spend much of my time with my granddaughter Grace. She calls me papa. When I walk in the door she says, go by by papa. That means she wants to go out in the garden with me. We throw a ball and a frisbee. We water the flowers ad fill the bird feeder. She looks at me, and I see so much wisdom. Sometimes she surprises me and speaks in sentences: I'm hungry papa. She looks at me with a critical eye. I can't escape her intelligence. I am in many ways grateful to have a second chance at the very intricate and difficult science of child rearing. Grace is my all these days. This may well be the best photo of her I have taken to date: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4642110 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 70mm macro lens?
Hi! On 7/13/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This looks interesting, a new Sigma 70mm f/2.8 macro lens: http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/press_release_email5.htm Not cheap (probably a good sign). And covers full-frame for film users and Canon FF digital shooters. Thanks for the link, Mark. This looks interesting. Any idea what the price point might be? I didn't see a suggested price listed. What I dislike about this lens is its weight. It is plain heavy. It is heavier than 31 Ltd which some of you said was difficult to handle. I think it is a decent lens, but I'd rather use my 77 Ltd. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Re: Flash Question
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Reese) Date: 2006/07/13 Thu PM 01:09:48 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Flash Question I did a little checking. Boz has a picture of one on his website. It uses the 4P cabling system which is apparently incompatible with the current 5P system. It of seemingly limited value to anyone using current Pentax equipment. Tom Reese The AF280T (a 4P TTL flash) is current. -- Original message -- From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 13.07.2006, at 14:35 , Tom Reese wrote: Pentax did make a flash distributor years ago that allows for multi- flash TTL metering. I wonder how many they actually sold. I got one at what must have been a very good price (or I wouldn't have bought it) off of KEH a few years ago. I don't know if this helps or not but I at least I got to mention a long forgotten gizmo. Tom, that's really interesting. Cold write more about this? Eventually post some photos of this item??? Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Watching the city below
They seem fine to me.:-) Nice shot Dave Quoting Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi! I've got great back log of things to do, including some few hundred messages from the list :-(. http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=14278 I would specifically ask you to let me know what do you think of the tones here. And of course brutal and honest comments are to be appreciated ;-). Thanks in advance. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO: Austin, TX, July 4th weekend
I like the one of John and Nate. The guitar player is nice to, good colours. Man thats a lot of bats. They look assume in the shots. Dave Quoting Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As you guys know, Nate and I went to Austin last weekend. Sadly, we didn't get to meet Gonz, but we did spend a very pleasant couple of hours with John Munro and his wife over breakfast. They are great people and we really enjoyed spending time with them. As a bonus, I got to test drive the Sigma 70-200 f/2.8 and the FA 85mm, and both are now on my wish list. :) Anyway, here is my gallery from last weekend, primarily featuring Austin's bat colony, with some flowers and other things thrown in for fun. http://sunny16.smugmug.com/gallery/1639468 Amita -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Brothers
Reluctantly, i will show this to the SO tonight. I feel our three cats will be four when i do.:-) Nice shot, and very crisp i might add. Dave Quoting Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/brothers.html DS w/K24/2.8 Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Cave stuff
http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/blackchasm_0065a.htm Beautiful, evocative shot, Bruce! Amita -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO - Red, White and Blue Kites
Some nice shots George. I like the rich blue sky. Page 1, # 1 and 6, and page 2, #9 are my fav's. Dave Quoting George Sinos [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On July 1 - the local kite club held their Red, White and Blue Festival. Here's a link to a few photos from the event: http://georgesphotos.net/gallery/1638381 This is a friendly bunch of guys. They had seen the photos I took at last October's event and let me have the run of the field. I got a few good shots from angles that I wouldn't have achieved from the sidelines. The winds were shifting and intermittent that day so they worked hard to keep things in the air. See you later, gs http://georgesphotos.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO - another quilt pic
http://www.alphoto.com/images/hands.jpg enjoy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Grace on the Fourth of July
Thanks Dave. Yes, grandchildren are a blessing. Particularly, when one is only a playmate and not the responsible parent. Although I may end up being largely responsible for Grace's upbringing, it's certainly easier to enjoy children the second time around. You sort of have it figured out by then:-). Paul -- Original message -- From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lovely shot Paul. I can just here her telling you what she is doing with the grass. I missed most of my daughters growing up years, and i know what you are getting at. I'm looking forward to grand kids one day. Just to try and make up in some way. Dave Quoting Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]: These days I spend much of my time with my granddaughter Grace. She calls me papa. When I walk in the door she says, go by by papa. That means she wants to go out in the garden with me. We throw a ball and a frisbee. We water the flowers ad fill the bird feeder. She looks at me, and I see so much wisdom. Sometimes she surprises me and speaks in sentences: I'm hungry papa. She looks at me with a critical eye. I can't escape her intelligence. I am in many ways grateful to have a second chance at the very intricate and difficult science of child rearing. Grace is my all these days. This may well be the best photo of her I have taken to date: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4642110 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Bad taste
In a message dated 7/13/2006 12:41:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I see. I'd like to do that too - but I don't really know how. I would also like to change colours - Andy Warhol like. But these colour tools are kinda tricky to figure out in PS ;-) BTW: I like my square version a lot http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/188559013/ In the version for printing, I have solved the edge problem mentioned by Paul Stenquist. NJot in the web version, though. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 = Can't really tell, personally, what is different -- could only tell if they were side by side. Except it seems closer up. I do like it better closer up, the abstraction is more obvious. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Bad taste
That's absolutely true, Mike. I wasn't aiming to record, though ;-) regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 13. juli 2006 02:27 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Bad taste Jens, There is no absolute true recording of a subject, however, I believe there are more or less accurate interpretations of that subject. A heavily photoshopped (with elements added) photo is a less accurate interpretation than a out of camera jpeg. Mike -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/385 - Release Date: 07/11/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/387 - Release Date: 07/12/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 70mm macro lens?
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006, Mark Roberts wrote: mike wilson wrote: From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] This looks interesting, a new Sigma 70mm f/2.8 macro lens: http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/press_release_email5.htm No aperture ring, so only of interest to Z1-p, etc. users. Well, from my photography teaching experience I can (sadly) report that the vast majority of users in the real world use their cameras in Program exposure mode, so it's compatible with all the A series cameras, all the P series, all the SF series, all the PZ series and all the MZ/ZX series. And the *ist film camera. I also think the MZ-6 and I am sure the MZ-50/30/60 can use that with (on the body) Av as well. But I am wondering if a macro lens will be used (as macro) on P all that much. Unusual length for 35mm. Yeah, they should have made it 77mm :) Still unusual, I have always thought. Looking on the bright side, one less crave for me ;-) Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 70mm macro lens?
On 7/13/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perry Pellechia wrote: Unusual length for 35mm. Yeah, they should have made it 77mm :) This comment reminds me of a question I always had about the Limited's. I know the reason for the 43mm focal length (true normal), but what is significant about 31mm and 77mm? Anyone know? Well the word is that there really isn't anything special about the numbers 31 and 77, it's just that most lenses, from all manufacturers, aren't named with their actual focal length but with the standard number that's closest. In other words, a 100mm lens might actually be anywhere from 95mm to 104mm, but gets the 100 designation just to make it easier to remember. Sometimes lens tests will list the actual measured focal length as well as the designated focal length. With the 31 Ltd and 77 Ltd, Pentax apparently just gave the lenses names that were indicative of their actual focal length. An unromantic explanation, I realize, but what can you do? :) Thanks for the explanation Mark. I guess the next question would be how were these lenses designed. Were the shooting for 30mm and ended up with a 31mm? I would have thought that they would have been designed using some sort of computer system and the mathematics would have been more precise. My guess would be the differences being introduced by material changes (glass type and refractive index changes, etc.) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - another quilt pic
I think a tighter crop would make this a stronger image. Still interesting as is though. On 7/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.alphoto.com/images/hands.jpg enjoy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Perry Pellechia Primary email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alternate email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://homer.chem.sc.edu/perry -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
A weird little story of Copyright
Just to keep your minds off politics .-) During my holiday I was reading and listening to music but had the TV on (and sound off), just in case there was a weather forecast. Suddenly something known caught my attention on the TV. In a program about some opera seminar in western Norway a singer was standing in front of a painting, and the painting was identical to one of my photographs. After some detective work, and help from the Norwegian community at www.foto.no, I found the painter, and he admitted that he had downloaded my picture and used it, but he refused to take the picture down and claimed that he was a not a very good painter and therefore his painting was not a copy of my picture. He said that he would sell it if someone wanted it and that I could by it if I wanted to. Now the story has been twice in the local radio station and will be in the local newspaper tomorrow. But since I live in a different part of the country I have only seen the references on Internet. One of the leading professors in Copyright issues in Norway has stated that the painting is illegal, and things seem to be going my way, but it has been a busy week... here´s a link with where you can see the pictures: http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/nrk_sogn_og_fjordane/1.708983 DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 70mm macro lens?
On Jul 13, 2006, at 11:53 AM, Perry Pellechia wrote: I guess the next question would be how were these lenses designed. Were the shooting for 30mm and ended up with a 31mm? I would have thought that they would have been designed using some sort of computer system and the mathematics would have been more precise. I thought I had read that the Limiteds were designed by idiosyncratic lens designers who were allowed to do pretty much what they wanted. -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO: magic hour
It gives one the strange feeling of peering into a magical word through a crystal ball or something like that. A rather strange feeling. While I don't necessarially like the photo, I do like looking at it! Take this as a compliment. Tom C. From: jim kerslake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: magic hour Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 01:53:44 -0700 Some evening colours for you... Just a small illustration of Magic Hour light - falling on some otherwise quite dull vegetation. Right now Magic Hour is about 8:30 to 9:30 in Yorkshire - I am told there's another one in the morning, but so long as there is a Snooze button, I have no chance of ever seeing it :-( This is the Asahi Takumar Super Multi Coated 135mm f/3.5 lens, attached precariously and grumpily onto a D-SLR which shall be nameless. Totally the wrong lens for the job really - I had to walk backwards for miles..! I'm sure there is a point of focus in there somewhere, but I'm not too sure where it is. http://www.jimkerslake.uklinux.net/pentax/littletree3.jpg About a week after I took this photo, the farmer sprayed the field... quite a lot of what you see there is now dead :-( No room for sentimentality when you've got sheep to raise. -- jim -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 7621 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Bad taste
So did one of my fovotire paintings, Hip, hip, hurra! I have seen it exibited with the photographs as well: http://www.skagensmuseum.dk/dk/udstilling/tidligere/privatliv/side%205/ Further more, many golden age Dutch painters used lenses and light in order to project images of people on to the canvas on which they painted! So the limit between painting and photography is not really too clear. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af graywolf Sendt: 13. juli 2006 16:12 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Bad taste Depends upon how one decides to use it, I think. Like most tools the results depend upon the user as much as on the tool. BTW, Norman Rockwell's paintings all started out as photographs. No he did not paint over photos. He used the photos, shot in his studio, as references to paint from. I guess you could say his people paintings were still lifes of photographs grin. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Bob W wrote: it all depends on whether you think the camera is a picture-making tool, or a recording device. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jens Bladt Sent: 12 July 2006 23:16 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: Bad taste To me: All images are abstractions (of reality or imaginations) - it IS NOT real life. So, I don't see anything wrong in making images with all kind of tools, bruches, chalk, coal, film, CCD's, computers etc. Adding or subtracting to/from the real thing is a statement. Images without a statement are poor communication. Making images is communicating - like using a language. Nevertheless - IO have been trying to redo the effect-iamge in a larger format. No luck. The effect dies when I use more pixels. So I just enlarged the firt one. I put it here (buttom of the page): http://www.jensbladt.dk/Modelnight/Pernille-site.html I'd like to have it printed really big. I think I'm beginn to understand what Andy Warhol did to Marilyn Monroe - not that ther'es any comparison to my photgraph at all ;-l) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/387 - Release Date: 07/12/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/387 - Release Date: 07/12/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A weird little story of Copyright
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006, DagT wrote: the painting is illegal, and things seem to be going my way, but it has been a busy week... here?s a link with where you can see the pictures: http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/nrk_sogn_og_fjordane/1.708983 Wow. I think I have seen the picture before. Good luck, Dag. Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A weird little story of Copyright
On Jul 13, 2006, at 11:08, DagT wrote: Just to keep your minds off politics .-) After some detective work, and help from the Norwegian community at www.foto.no, I found the painter, and he admitted that he had downloaded my picture and used it, but he refused to take the picture down and claimed that he was a not a very good painter and therefore his painting was not a copy of my picture. He said that he would sell it if someone wanted it and that I could by it if I wanted to. My opinion: If the artist is holding onto the painting for himself (personal use???), then no harm, no foul. But if he is intending to SELL it, you are entitled to a large share, if not ALL of the money - since it is really your image. Good luck! -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: A weird little story of Copyright
He may not have been a very good painter but he's good enough to make it obvious that it's a copy of your work. I hope you at least get some degree of compensation without too much acrimony. For him to offer to sell YOU a painting he made after surrepticiously using your picture as the basis, is plain backwards. Tom C. From: DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: A weird little story of Copyright Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:08:03 +0200 Just to keep your minds off politics .-) During my holiday I was reading and listening to music but had the TV on (and sound off), just in case there was a weather forecast. Suddenly something known caught my attention on the TV. In a program about some opera seminar in western Norway a singer was standing in front of a painting, and the painting was identical to one of my photographs. After some detective work, and help from the Norwegian community at www.foto.no, I found the painter, and he admitted that he had downloaded my picture and used it, but he refused to take the picture down and claimed that he was a not a very good painter and therefore his painting was not a copy of my picture. He said that he would sell it if someone wanted it and that I could by it if I wanted to. Now the story has been twice in the local radio station and will be in the local newspaper tomorrow. But since I live in a different part of the country I have only seen the references on Internet. One of the leading professors in Copyright issues in Norway has stated that the painting is illegal, and things seem to be going my way, but it has been a busy week... here´s a link with where you can see the pictures: http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/nrk_sogn_og_fjordane/1.708983 DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A Winogrand picture
I keep looking for her fangs! Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: A Winogrand picture On Wed, 12 Jul 2006, Paul Stenquist wrote: Great pic. Bt if someone posted this as a PAW, someone else would undoubtedly say, Not enough DOF. Her hand and the back of the man's head are soft. And she has a horrible expression. What were you trying to say here? vbg http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/ho/11/na/hob_1992.5107.htm I think it exhudes joy. Possibly even one-sided. Tremendous... Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO:Fadista Joana Amendoeira
Tim, I mostly like this but because the guitar player is looking directly @ the singer, I'd prefer him to be in focus. Was this shot for your own usage or is it to be an advertisement? YMMV Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO:Fadista Joana Amendoeira In a message dated 7/10/2006 12:48:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=39557refid=999ref=author DS Tamron 28-75/2,8 @ 55mm, f:4, 1/20s, 1600 ISO raw. I used a tripod. It’s a pain in the ..., but its well worth the effort I'd say. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) == That is a very good shot. Very good. But what is that sort of smoky thing in the air above her? It looks like some kind of symbol. Not going to say what I think it is a symbol of. ;-) Hate to admit it, I find it distracting. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: A weird little story of Copyright
That being said... it's rather absurd to think that anyone can do that with anyone's work at any time and no harm is done, except when the owner of the original image accidentally finds out! Tom C. From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: A weird little story of Copyright Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 10:22:05 -0600 He may not have been a very good painter but he's good enough to make it obvious that it's a copy of your work. I hope you at least get some degree of compensation without too much acrimony. For him to offer to sell YOU a painting he made after surrepticiously using your picture as the basis, is plain backwards. Tom C. From: DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: A weird little story of Copyright Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:08:03 +0200 Just to keep your minds off politics .-) During my holiday I was reading and listening to music but had the TV on (and sound off), just in case there was a weather forecast. Suddenly something known caught my attention on the TV. In a program about some opera seminar in western Norway a singer was standing in front of a painting, and the painting was identical to one of my photographs. After some detective work, and help from the Norwegian community at www.foto.no, I found the painter, and he admitted that he had downloaded my picture and used it, but he refused to take the picture down and claimed that he was a not a very good painter and therefore his painting was not a copy of my picture. He said that he would sell it if someone wanted it and that I could by it if I wanted to. Now the story has been twice in the local radio station and will be in the local newspaper tomorrow. But since I live in a different part of the country I have only seen the references on Internet. One of the leading professors in Copyright issues in Norway has stated that the painting is illegal, and things seem to be going my way, but it has been a busy week... here´s a link with where you can see the pictures: http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/nrk_sogn_og_fjordane/1.708983 DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A weird little story of Copyright
He seems like a good enough painter to me. I certainly recognised his work to be a copy of yours (and of course, you recognised it too). --s On 7/13/06, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After some detective work, and help from the Norwegian community at www.foto.no, I found the painter, and he admitted that he had downloaded my picture and used it, but he refused to take the picture down and claimed that he was a not a very good painter and therefore his painting was not a copy of my picture. He said that he would sell it if someone wanted it and that I could by it if I wanted to. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Anchors Aweigh! (Kids at Play)
Hello Shel, Cute! pictures of kids at play are always a pleasure to view. They bring back memories and make the day seem a bit less stressful. Thanks for sharing. -- Bruce Thursday, July 13, 2006, 12:33:00 AM, you wrote: From the climate controlled vault @ Casa Belinkoff, SB photo made with the Sony DSC-S85 SB http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/anchors.html SB Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Cave stuff
Certainly different well executed. I would probably crop a little off the bottom to avoid the merge of subject to edge. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO - Cave stuff http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/blackchasm_0065a.htm Beautiful, evocative shot, Bruce! Amita -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A weird little story of Copyright
Den 13. jul. 2006 kl. 18.16 skrev Charles Robinson: On Jul 13, 2006, at 11:08, DagT wrote: Just to keep your minds off politics .-) After some detective work, and help from the Norwegian community at www.foto.no, I found the painter, and he admitted that he had downloaded my picture and used it, but he refused to take the picture down and claimed that he was a not a very good painter and therefore his painting was not a copy of my picture. He said that he would sell it if someone wanted it and that I could by it if I wanted to. My opinion: If the artist is holding onto the painting for himself (personal use???), then no harm, no foul. But if he is intending to SELL it, you are entitled to a large share, if not ALL of the money - since it is really your image. That was my first reaction too, and I said that if it was sold the price should be given to the kids. The Copyright issue is one thing, he is selling a painting showing people who may be recognized, and without asking them. Now I´ve just decided that the picture is to be destroyed. Otherwise it may be resold some day. Good luck! Thanks! DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO - Red, White and Blue Kites
Nice presentation with many good images. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: GESO - Red, White and Blue Kites Some nice shots George. I like the rich blue sky. Page 1, # 1 and 6, and page 2, #9 are my fav's. Dave Quoting George Sinos [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On July 1 - the local kite club held their Red, White and Blue Festival. Here's a link to a few photos from the event: http://georgesphotos.net/gallery/1638381 This is a friendly bunch of guys. They had seen the photos I took at last October's event and let me have the run of the field. I got a few good shots from angles that I wouldn't have achieved from the sidelines. The winds were shifting and intermittent that day so they worked hard to keep things in the air. See you later, gs http://georgesphotos.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
