Re: FA lenses on *istDL...focus issues?

2006-08-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Brendan,

I used to have the FA28-105/3.2-4.5 AL IF. Never had any issues with  
focusing. Several people told me that they had problems with that  
lens, but mine worked flawlessly.

Godfrey

On Aug 26, 2006, at 6:51 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote:

 --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't own this lens, but I have a number of FA
 lenses, and they all
 autofocus very well on both of my *ist D cameras.
 You can read a lot
 of things on dpreview that aren't necessarily true.
 A lot of wonky
 users over there.
 Paul

 My thoughts exactly.

 Anyway, I just wanted to check here to make the guy
 feel a little better. AF should work fine according to
 everything I've seen (including the *ist DL manual).

 -Brendan

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Re: Digital Leica M8?

2006-08-27 Thread P. J. Alling
It seems that link no longer works.

Bob Shell wrote:

Is it real or is it Photoshop?


www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/attachment.php? 
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Re: Comments on FA 24-90, please

2006-08-27 Thread Pancho Hasselbach
Godfrey,

As I was trying to say, following your advice would mean I'd have to get 
myself an *istDxxx or something like that. I'm still on film, there's 
only two PS digis around here (whereas one of them is an Oly C-5050, 
which isn't PS only).

Thel lens arrived yesterday, I'll try it and if it's as good as expected 
I surely won't regret spending some money on an appropriate hood.

Pancho

Godfrey DiGiorgi schrieb:
 On Aug 25, 2006, at 11:40 AM, Pancho Hasselbach wrote:
 
 A wideangle hood for 67mm filter thread might be quite bulky, and, as
 you say, of little use on the long end, but I think the original  
 hood is
 a little better due to the tulip form. ...
 
 I wasn't thinking of a wideangle hood. A lens hood for a normal lens  
 on a 35mm camera, which is what the standard hoods from Kalt are made  
 for, will work fine for a 24mm lens on the DS. I use Kalt standard  
 lens hoods for everything down to the FA20-35 with no vignetting.  
 Same for the 28-105 ... it worked at least as well as the standard  
 Pentax hood (designed for 35mm format again). For best results at the  
 long end, a bit of a snoot would do well to extend it.
 
 http://homepage.mac.com/godders/lenshood-lineup-1845.jpg
 
 Tulip shaped hoods are a compromise too. ;-)
 
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Re: The what is an *istD worth watch

2006-08-27 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sat, 26 Aug 2006, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 You're right. Just looked again. It's now at $540 with almost two
 days to go. Five  bids. Most of them from Europe. I warned the top
 bidder that shipping was about $50. Apparently, that's okay with him.

He has customs and VAT to worry about. My (probably conservative, has 
to be said) rule of thumb for the UK is 33% on the purchase + PP; 
digital cameras may not have import duties though, they didn't last I 
checked, so only VAT.

 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=180020779578

Kostas (trimmed the URL a bit)

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OT: Cameras on film Topaz

2006-08-27 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

I was watching Hitchcock's Topaz last night and noticed a 6x7 (?) and 
what looked like a bayonet 35mm. Any idea what these were?

Just curious,
Kostas

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Re: Comments on FA 24-90, please

2006-08-27 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sat, 26 Aug 2006, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 Any lens hood is a compromise on a zoom lens at some point or
 another. A tulip shaped hood gives a little more coverage than a
 barrel shaped hood, but only in a four-pronged shape that has edges
 which must be oriented correctly or you get vignetting. And it's
 harder to fit a hood cap  with a more complex lens hood shape.

Sorry, I need to process your statement a bit: are you saying that a 
tulip hood in principle gives more protection than a barrel hood but 
is harder to design, so results in reality vary?

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Re: FA lenses on *istDL...focus issues?

2006-08-27 Thread Dario Bonazza
The same kind of fault happened to me with my D and three different samples
of genuine smc Pentax-F 70-210 zoom lenses.
From 70 to about 135, everything works fine. Past 135 up to 210 you cannot
make AF work properly, irrespectively of environment light, subject
contrast, etc. It doesn't hunt, it just focuses much nearer than the subject
is, while the AF confirmation LED lies telling everything's OK.

Of course, those F 70-210 autofocus well on my MZ-S and MZ-5 at any focal
length. Of course, my D autofocuses well with any other lens I've tried
since.

AFAIK, the F 70-210 is the only lens having AF problems with my D (or my D
only has AF problems with the F 70-210, if you prefer) so I just stopped
fiddling with such a useless combo.

Since for most of my work (night shots, concerts and the like) I truly don't
need a slow maximum speed of F5.6, I ended up buying a Sigma 70-200
F2.8 instead: wonderful lens and perfect AF at any f-stop and any focal
length :-)

Dario

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 On 27/08/06, Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My thoughts exactly.

 Anyway, I just wanted to check here to make the guy
 feel a little better. AF should work fine according to
 everything I've seen (including the *ist DL manual).

 I know a user who has had to send his *ist D (and lenses) back for
 service as it refused to correctly focus with particular genuine
 Pentax lenses (some LTD), so it definitely can happen.

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RE: PESO -- Good Intentions + Bad Plan =

2006-08-27 Thread Bob W
There's a very good set of photos of the effects of Katrina by Thomas
Dworak on Slate at the moment
http://todayspictures.slate.com/20060825/

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 I'm not going to say you're wrong, anything is possible in
Louisiana, 
 but if anyone is still living in a tent this long after Katrina they

 probably deserve it.  A lot of the relief money that was 
 handed out in 
 the immediate aftermath was spent on necessities such as 
 booze, firearms 
 and strippers, when it was meant for food and shelter.  In 
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Re: Coolscan (again)... don't try this at home

2006-08-27 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 They can leave the factory with film on the mirror and lens.

Not sure they leave the factory like this but I've had this with
practically all my scanners: film, flatbed, Nikon and Epson, various
models.

I've seen the same effect on the insides of the windows in new cars. My
father kept complaining that there was always some kind of mess on them
insides after he had quit smoking.

The cuplrit is the same in both cases. It's the softening agents gassing
out of new plastics.

Ralf

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PESO: SNAFU

2006-08-27 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Perfectly normal operation at the Seraing (Belgium) coking plant:

http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/6506220

Comments and suggestins as always most welcome.

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RE: PESO: SNAFU

2006-08-27 Thread Henk Terhell
Ralf, fascinating picture again! I can smell the NOx from my screen.
 
Henk

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Perfectly normal operation at the Seraing (Belgium) coking plant:

http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/6506220

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Re: The what is an *istD worth watch

2006-08-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/8/06, Kostas Kavoussanakis, discombobulated, unleashed:

He has customs and VAT to worry about. My (probably conservative, has 
to be said) rule of thumb for the UK is 33% on the purchase + PP; 
digital cameras may not have import duties though, they didn't last I 
checked, so only VAT.

This is very hit and miss in the UK. I had a lens arrive from the states
once with a value of 650 bucks written on the customs label and it just
landed on my doorstep. Another time something arrived for just over a
hundred dollars and I had to pay another 30 or so to receive it! Each
time it was used photo gear.

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RE: PESO: SNAFU

2006-08-27 Thread Bob W
that's very good. Most of your industrial photos leave me cold - it's
just not my kind of subject matter - but this one is very effective
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 Perfectly normal operation at the Seraing (Belgium) coking plant:
 
 http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/6506220
 
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Re: Coolscan (again)... don't try this at home

2006-08-27 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 27/08/06, Ralf R. Radermacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Not sure they leave the factory like this but I've had this with
 practically all my scanners: film, flatbed, Nikon and Epson, various
 models.

 I've seen the same effect on the insides of the windows in new cars. My
 father kept complaining that there was always some kind of mess on them
 insides after he had quit smoking.

 The cuplrit is the same in both cases. It's the softening agents gassing
 out of new plastics.

Very true, I expect with scanners it depends a lot on how long they
have sat around and in what conditions prior to purchase.

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Re: OT: photoshop elements 3.0 and opacity.

2006-08-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Very Nice. Enjoyed the blog and the picture of Sami. If  you wanted to 
work on it some more, you might remove some of the background 
distractions behind the type. Use your clone tool and extend the grass, 
the pavement and the trees to cover the blue, yellow and green 
thingamajiggies that are seen back there. But overall I like the 
result.
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On Aug 27, 2006, at 1:13 AM, Sandra Hermann wrote:

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Re: PESO: Munich Street at Dusk

2006-08-27 Thread Bob Shell

On Aug 27, 2006, at 12:12 AM, David Mann wrote:

 My brother-in-law spent some time as a cycle courier in London and
 he's told me a couple of interesting stories.  While I'd love to get
 paid to ride a bike all day, I don't fancy doing so in the middle of
 any city.

Last time I was in London I took a cab to a central destination.  The  
cabbie pulled over to the curb, I paid him, and when I opened the  
door to get out a bike courier slammed right into it and went head  
over heels through the air over the door.  Good thing my arm was out  
of the way!  He got up, dusted himself off, and then proceeded to  
curse a blue streak at me, as if his idiocy was somehow my fault.  I  
just went on my way and left him and the cabbie arguing over who was  
going to pay to fix the bike.

Once in New Orleans I was about to get out of a cab under one of  
those hotel verandas with multiple cab lanes.  I opened the door and  
was about to step out when an impatient driver tried to zip around  
the cab way too fast and completely took the door off.  Getting out  
of cabs appears to be a dangerous thing for me.

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Re: Digital Leica M8?

2006-08-27 Thread Bob Shell
Works fine if you fix the like break.

Try this:

http://tinyurl.com/o94t9

Bob

On Aug 27, 2006, at 2:51 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

 It seems that link no longer works.

 Bob Shell wrote:

 Is it real or is it Photoshop?


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Re: Digital Leica M8?

2006-08-27 Thread David Savage
That doesn't work either.

I get:

Invalid Attachment specified. If you followed a valid link, please
notify the administrator

Dave

On 8/27/06, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Works fine if you fix the like break.

 Try this:

 http://tinyurl.com/o94t9

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Re: Digital Leica M8?

2006-08-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob Shell wrote:

Works fine if you fix the like break.

Try this:

http://tinyurl.com/o94t9

Both that link and the original give me Invalid Attachment specified.
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OT: Anyone have 24MB of web space free?

2006-08-27 Thread Digital Image Studio
I made some quick and dirty lens comparison shots last week (DA16-45
vs A20/2.8 and A24/2.8) but I have no time to pare them down nor a
place to put them temporarily for DL. So does anyone have 24MB of web
space free that would be willing to host a zip file full of JPGs?
Please let me know if you could host them for a few days so that
anyone interested can check them out.

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Re: The what is an *istD worth watch

2006-08-27 Thread Vid Strpic
Cotty wrote:
 On 27/8/06, Kostas Kavoussanakis, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 He has customs and VAT to worry about. My (probably conservative, has 
 to be said) rule of thumb for the UK is 33% on the purchase + PP; 
 digital cameras may not have import duties though, they didn't last I 
 checked, so only VAT.
 
 This is very hit and miss in the UK. I had a lens arrive from the states
 once with a value of 650 bucks written on the customs label and it just
 landed on my doorstep. Another time something arrived for just over a
 hundred dollars and I had to pay another 30 or so to receive it! Each
 time it was used photo gear.

Same thing here in Croatia.  Sometimes they leave you alone, sometimes
you have to pay pure luck.


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Re: Digital Leica M8?

2006-08-27 Thread Bob Shell
Must be a problem with your system.  Both work just fine for me.

Bob

On Aug 27, 2006, at 8:24 AM, David Savage wrote:

 That doesn't work either.

 I get:

 Invalid Attachment specified. If you followed a valid link, please
 notify the administrator

 Dave

 On 8/27/06, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Works fine if you fix the like break.

 Try this:

 http://tinyurl.com/o94t9

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Re: CF v SD Cards

2006-08-27 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 24/08/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Excellent.  look forward to seeing the results. I'll have to see how
 much displacement my barrel shows when I have time. I know there is
 some. The 12-24, on the other hand, doesn't extend very far and shows
 virtually no movement. It's apparently a completely different design.

I made some quick and dirty comparisons between my DA16-45/4, A20/2.8
and A24/2.8 on Friday, the DA isn't as bad as I recalled but it does
have some strange characteristics that I'm at odds with.

Sharpness wise the DA seems a pretty competent performer however it
does also exhibit purple/green CA which on the skyline is a lot more
noticeable than either of the primes at any aperture (though the A24
exhibits some red/green CA). The DA also exhibits a strange tendency
to stretch the corners of the frame far more than the fixed lenses
(the fixed lenses do tend towards some barrel distortion but not
significantly).

In any case since I have little spare time at the moment I've made the
test image files available as full res jpgs in a 24MB zip file at:

http://home.exetel.com.au/loveday/DAZoomTest.zip

Many thanks for the web space Peter.

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Re: Digital Leica M8?

2006-08-27 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 27/08/06, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Must be a problem with your system.  Both work just fine for me.

Neither link works for me either, but nor am I a member of the board.

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vacation

2006-08-27 Thread Butch Black
Hi guys

Not that I've been particularly active on the list recently but I'm going on 
vacation and un-subbing for a week. See you after Labor day (US Holiday)
Hopefully will have some pictures

Play nice :)

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Re: Digital Leica M8?

2006-08-27 Thread Adam Maas
Neither work for me either, and I am a site member, perhaps they live on 
in yur browser cache?

-Adam


Bob Shell wrote:
 Must be a problem with your system.  Both work just fine for me.
 
 Bob
 
 On Aug 27, 2006, at 8:24 AM, David Savage wrote:
 
 
That doesn't work either.

I get:

Invalid Attachment specified. If you followed a valid link, please
notify the administrator

Dave

On 8/27/06, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Works fine if you fix the like break.

Try this:

http://tinyurl.com/o94t9

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Re: PESO: Munich Street at Dusk

2006-08-27 Thread Adam Maas
Bob Shell wrote:
 On Aug 27, 2006, at 12:12 AM, David Mann wrote:
 
 
My brother-in-law spent some time as a cycle courier in London and
he's told me a couple of interesting stories.  While I'd love to get
paid to ride a bike all day, I don't fancy doing so in the middle of
any city.
 
 
 Last time I was in London I took a cab to a central destination.  The  
 cabbie pulled over to the curb, I paid him, and when I opened the  
 door to get out a bike courier slammed right into it and went head  
 over heels through the air over the door.  Good thing my arm was out  
 of the way!  He got up, dusted himself off, and then proceeded to  
 curse a blue streak at me, as if his idiocy was somehow my fault.  I  
 just went on my way and left him and the cabbie arguing over who was  
 going to pay to fix the bike.

You don't look before you open a door into traffic? Bikes don't stop 
instantaneously nor can they always avoid the door opened in their face. 
Unless this was the curb-side door of the car, you were entirely at 
fault here (If it was the curb-side door, everything changes and the 
cyclist was doing something extremely stupid). If a car had taken the 
door off what would you say? Don't open doors into traffic unless you 
look first.

 
 Once in New Orleans I was about to get out of a cab under one of  
 those hotel verandas with multiple cab lanes.  I opened the door and  
 was about to step out when an impatient driver tried to zip around  
 the cab way too fast and completely took the door off.  Getting out  
 of cabs appears to be a dangerous thing for me.
 
 Bob
 

The second story however is entirely the cabbie's fault.

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Re: Digital Leica M8?

2006-08-27 Thread Marco Alpert
Last night I also found the links not to work, but was able to find  
the pics and info by manually navigating to the RFF News forum and  
reading the thread there (and I'm not a member). Trying the same  
thing now, it appears that that thread has disappeared there.

-Marco


On Aug 27, 2006, at 6:58 AM, Adam Maas wrote:

 Neither work for me either, and I am a site member, perhaps they  
 live on
 in yur browser cache?

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RE: Useless gearhead quiz (was - venting)

2006-08-27 Thread Anthony Farr
P.S.  A Stereo Realist and a Fuji Instax

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Anthony Farr
 Sent: Saturday, 26 August 2006 10:59 PM
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
 Subject: RE: Useless gearhead quiz (was - venting)
 
 These are cameras, some mine and others belonging to employers, with which
 I've burned film or memory, in no particular order.  I have some others
 which are either inheritances or curiosities, but which I haven't used.
 
 Pentax 6x7
 Pentax SP1000
 Pentax ME Super
 Pentax Super A
 Pentax P30t
 Bronica ETR
 Mamiya RB67 ProS
 Mamiya Press
 Hasselblad ELM
 Rolleiflex TLR w Schneider 75/2.8
 Linhof Technika 45
 Linhof Technika 23
 Toyo View 4x5 Monorail
 Sinar 4x5 Monorail
 Arca Swiss 4x5 Monorail
 Horseman 4x5 Monorail
 Nikkormat FT2
 Nikon F
 Nikon FM
 Nikon FM2
 Nikon FE
 Nikon FE2
 Nikon F801
 Fuji 35mm Microfilm camera
 Klimsch Commodore 40in x 40in graphic arts camera
 De Vere 8x10 vertical copy camera with 4x5 back
 Agfa Optima 1035
 Some Instamatics
 A no-name SVGA digicam
 Fujifilm 2800Z
 Fujifilm S7000
 
 Regards,
 Anthony Farr
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
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  Loveless
  Sent: Thursday, 24 August 2006 4:02 AM
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  Subject: Useless gearhead quiz (was - venting)
 
  On 8/23/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Same guy. I'll debate you when I think you're attacking Pentax
unfairly.
 But that's
  just to help maintain list equilibrium. If I'm a fan of any camera, I
 guess it would be
  Leica thread mounts, but I'm a user for the most part. I've owned and
used
 two
  Nikons, five Mamiyas, two Leicas, one Speed Graphic, one Minolta, one
 Canon and
  two Fujis in addition to ten or so Pentax. I blame list enablement for
the
 large number
  of Pentax tools:-).
   Paul
 
  I've used a handful of Pentax cameras (M42 and K mount), a Mamiya TLR,
  Crown Graphic, a couple Polaroids that take the peel-apart film, one
  Canon (and I gave it away), and a few point and shoot digitals.  But
  there's always been a Pentax in the bunch.  So I guess I've never
  really switched systems.
 
  At one time I blamed Bill Robb for my enablements.  Now, however, I
  think part of the blame goes Mike Johnston.
 
  What have you used?
 
 
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6 X 7 and 645 instruction manuals

2006-08-27 Thread Bob Shell
Doing some office cleaning this weekend and stumbled across these in  
one of my filing cabinets.  Thought I should offer them here first  
before putting on eBay.

Pentax 6 X 7 instruction manual (mirror lockup version).  Like new.

Pentax 645 instruction manual. (I have two, one like new, on scuffed  
on cover and some pages).

If you're interested in either or all, make me an offer.  They go on  
eBay on Tuesday otherwise.

Bob

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Re: PESO: SNAFU

2006-08-27 Thread Jack Davis
Makes me cough. ;-)


Jack
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 Comments and suggestins as always most welcome.
 
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Re: Useless gearhead quiz (was - venting)

2006-08-27 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 8/27/2006 7:34:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
P.S.  A Stereo Realist and a Fuji Instax

I probably should test that my Stereo Realist still works, while there is 
still a lab around that can handle it.

Did they use ordinary 35mm film? That's sort of what I remember, but not 
sure. Then two slides are put into a special slide holder thingee. Correct?

Marnie aka Doe 

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Re: Digital Leica M8?

2006-08-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Adam Maas wrote:

Neither work for me either, and I am a site member, perhaps they live on 
in yur browser cache?

That's probably what's happening.
 
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RE: Useless gearhead quiz (was - venting)

2006-08-27 Thread Anthony Farr
Yes, a standard 35mm cassette will fit, with no special loading
requirements.  That Realist sorely tested my honesty as it was an unloved
orphan at the workplace - nobody would have missed it, and yet I found it to
be a fine piece of machinery.  If I had one today there is no question that
I'd be shooting film regularly.

Regards,
Anthony Farr

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 Subject: Re: Useless gearhead quiz (was - venting)
 
 In a message dated 8/27/2006 7:34:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 P.S.  A Stereo Realist and a Fuji Instax
 
 I probably should test that my Stereo Realist still works, while there is
 still a lab around that can handle it.
 
 Did they use ordinary 35mm film? That's sort of what I remember, but not
 sure. Then two slides are put into a special slide holder thingee.
Correct?
 
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Re: PESO: Munich Street at Dusk

2006-08-27 Thread Bob Shell
I always get out on the curb side.  I would never get out on the  
other side unless there was a compelling reason and I looked  
carefully.  This idiot was trying to zoom past the cab in the foot or  
so of space twixt cab and curb.

Bob

On Aug 27, 2006, at 10:03 AM, Adam Maas wrote:

 You don't look before you open a door into traffic? Bikes don't stop
 instantaneously nor can they always avoid the door opened in their  
 face.
 Unless this was the curb-side door of the car, you were entirely at
 fault here (If it was the curb-side door, everything changes and the
 cyclist was doing something extremely stupid). If a car had taken the
 door off what would you say? Don't open doors into traffic unless you
 look first.


 Once in New Orleans I was about to get out of a cab under one of
 those hotel verandas with multiple cab lanes.  I opened the door and
 was about to step out when an impatient driver tried to zip around
 the cab way too fast and completely took the door off.  Getting out
 of cabs appears to be a dangerous thing for me.

 Bob


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Re: Re: Digital Leica M8?

2006-08-27 Thread Juan Buhler
I know about the RD-1, of course. $3000 is still too much for a 6 MP camera...

j

On 8/26/06, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Juan Buhler wrote:
  The viewfinder alone is the reason I've been shooting more film lately.
 
  But at $5000, it will be hard for me to justify. I'll most probably
  just get a K10D for now.
 
  Maybe Epson/Cosina will put out something similar and cheaper...
 
  j
 

 They did. The RD-1/RD-1s. Only $3000.

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Re: PESO: Munich Street at Dusk

2006-08-27 Thread Adam Maas
Ah, in that case I apologize for my assumption. That was a classic case 
of why Couriers make life difficult for other cyclists (And everyone else).

-Adam


Bob Shell wrote:
 I always get out on the curb side.  I would never get out on the  
 other side unless there was a compelling reason and I looked  
 carefully.  This idiot was trying to zoom past the cab in the foot or  
 so of space twixt cab and curb.
 
 Bob
 
 On Aug 27, 2006, at 10:03 AM, Adam Maas wrote:
 
 
You don't look before you open a door into traffic? Bikes don't stop
instantaneously nor can they always avoid the door opened in their  
face.
Unless this was the curb-side door of the car, you were entirely at
fault here (If it was the curb-side door, everything changes and the
cyclist was doing something extremely stupid). If a car had taken the
door off what would you say? Don't open doors into traffic unless you
look first.


Once in New Orleans I was about to get out of a cab under one of
those hotel verandas with multiple cab lanes.  I opened the door and
was about to step out when an impatient driver tried to zip around
the cab way too fast and completely took the door off.  Getting out
of cabs appears to be a dangerous thing for me.

Bob


The second story however is entirely the cabbie's fault.

 
 
 


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Re: Coolscan (again)... don't try this at home

2006-08-27 Thread Brendan MacRae


--- Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 27/08/06, Brendan MacRae
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Anybody for taking your Coolscan 9000 apart?
 
 

http://www.marginalsoftware.com/LS8000Notes/cleaning_the_optics_of_the_ls.htm
 
 8000 perhaps?
 

http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/P3074553.jpg
 
 They can leave the factory with film on the mirror
 and lens.
 
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as well.

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Re: FA lenses on *istDL...focus issues?

2006-08-27 Thread Brendan MacRae
Thanks, Godfrey.

-Brendan

--- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Brendan,
 
 I used to have the FA28-105/3.2-4.5 AL IF. Never had
 any issues with  
 focusing. Several people told me that they had
 problems with that  
 lens, but mine worked flawlessly.
 
 Godfrey
 
 On Aug 26, 2006, at 6:51 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote:
 
  --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  I don't own this lens, but I have a number of FA
  lenses, and they all
  autofocus very well on both of my *ist D cameras.
  You can read a lot
  of things on dpreview that aren't necessarily
 true.
  A lot of wonky
  users over there.
  Paul
 
  My thoughts exactly.
 
  Anyway, I just wanted to check here to make the
 guy
  feel a little better. AF should work fine
 according to
  everything I've seen (including the *ist DL
 manual).
 
  -Brendan
 
 
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K100D Review and Commentary by Mike Johnston

2006-08-27 Thread Shel Belinkoff
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/totally.shtml


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Re: OT: Anyone have 24MB of web space free?

2006-08-27 Thread Patrice LACOUTURE (GMail)
You can hand them to me, I'd happily post the file on my web site (and 
look at the tests!).

Patrice

Digital Image Studio a écrit :
 I made some quick and dirty lens comparison shots last week (DA16-45
 vs A20/2.8 and A24/2.8) but I have no time to pare them down nor a
 place to put them temporarily for DL. So does anyone have 24MB of web
 space free that would be willing to host a zip file full of JPGs?
 Please let me know if you could host them for a few days so that
 anyone interested can check them out.

   


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Re: FA lenses on *istDL...focus issues?

2006-08-27 Thread Brendan MacRae


--- Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The same kind of fault happened to me with my D and
 three different samples
 of genuine smc Pentax-F 70-210 zoom lenses.
 From 70 to about 135, everything works fine. Past
 135 up to 210 you cannot
 make AF work properly, irrespectively of environment
 light, subject
 contrast, etc. It doesn't hunt, it just focuses much
 nearer than the subject
 is, while the AF confirmation LED lies telling
 everything's OK.
 
 Of course, those F 70-210 autofocus well on my MZ-S
 and MZ-5 at any focal
 length. Of course, my D autofocuses well with any
 other lens I've tried
 since.
 
 AFAIK, the F 70-210 is the only lens having AF
 problems with my D (or my D
 only has AF problems with the F 70-210, if you
 prefer) so I just stopped
 fiddling with such a useless combo.
 
 Since for most of my work (night shots, concerts and
 the like) I truly don't
 need a slow maximum speed of F5.6, I ended up buying
 a Sigma 70-200
 F2.8 instead: wonderful lens and perfect AF at any
 f-stop and any focal
 length :-)
 
 Dario
 

Thanks, Dario. It seems to be an issue with the
digitals and certain F and FA lenses. It's the first
I'd heard of it but makes me warry of the new camera
(K10D). Hopefully the K series digitals won't have
these compadibilty issues since no one's mentioned the
issue on the K cameras yet. But, they're brand new, so
it's too early to tell.

-Brendan

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Re: PESO: Munich Street at Dusk

2006-08-27 Thread Bob Shell

On Aug 27, 2006, at 11:52 AM, Adam Maas wrote:

 Ah, in that case I apologize for my assumption. That was a classic  
 case
 of why Couriers make life difficult for other cyclists (And  
 everyone else).

 -Adam


No apology needed.  I should have written my post more clearly.   I  
was sorry the young man scraped his elbows and shins, and sorry his  
bike was demolished, but just pleased as punch that he didn't hit my  
arm or some other part of me.  I didn't have time to wait to see how  
he and the cabbie resolved it, but both were using some choice  
words.  There appeared to be no damage to the tank - er - London cab.

Bob

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Re: Coolscan (again)... don't try this at home

2006-08-27 Thread Brendan MacRae
--- Ralf R. Radermacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  They can leave the factory with film on the mirror
 and lens.
 
 Not sure they leave the factory like this but I've
 had this with
 practically all my scanners: film, flatbed, Nikon
 and Epson, various
 models.
 
 I've seen the same effect on the insides of the
 windows in new cars. My
 father kept complaining that there was always some
 kind of mess on them
 insides after he had quit smoking.
 
 The cuplrit is the same in both cases. It's the
 softening agents gassing
 out of new plastics.
 
 Ralf
 

Exactly right, Ralf. It gets especially bad in new
cars with faux leather seats. The off-gassing clouds
the windows big time when they sit in the sun.

-Brendan

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Re: PESO -- Good Intentions + Bad Plan =

2006-08-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bob,

I thought Thomas Dworzak's photos were hit  miss.
We here in the USA have all been indundated by nightly video of the
misery and squallor of those who could not or did not evacuate the
city of New Orleans.

I liked the interactive essay by Larry Towell much better.  It put a
real scale to the destruction and upheaval of the whole area.

Regards,  Bob S.

On 8/27/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There's a very good set of photos of the effects of Katrina by Thomas
 Dworak on Slate at the moment
 http://todayspictures.slate.com/20060825/

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  Subject: Re: PESO -- Good Intentions + Bad Plan =
 
  I'm not going to say you're wrong, anything is possible in
 Louisiana,
  but if anyone is still living in a tent this long after Katrina they

  probably deserve it.  A lot of the relief money that was
  handed out in
  the immediate aftermath was spent on necessities such as
  booze, firearms
  and strippers, when it was meant for food and shelter.  In
  other words
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RE: PESO: Munich Street at Dusk

2006-08-27 Thread Bob W
Was that the kerbside door, or the roadside door? It's normally
considered polite (and sensible) to look behind you before you open
the roadside door. If it was the kerbside door then the cyclist
probably got what he deserved. An experienced cyclist should of course
allow more than a door's width when he passes a car, but it's not
always possible in London traffic.

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 Behalf Of Bob Shell
 Sent: 27 August 2006 13:08
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 Subject: Re: PESO: Munich Street at Dusk
 
 
 On Aug 27, 2006, at 12:12 AM, David Mann wrote:
 
  My brother-in-law spent some time as a cycle courier in London and
  he's told me a couple of interesting stories.  While I'd love to
get
  paid to ride a bike all day, I don't fancy doing so in the middle
of
  any city.
 
 Last time I was in London I took a cab to a central 
 destination.  The  
 cabbie pulled over to the curb, I paid him, and when I opened the  
 door to get out a bike courier slammed right into it and went head  
 over heels through the air over the door.  Good thing my arm was out

 of the way!  He got up, dusted himself off, and then proceeded to  
 curse a blue streak at me, as if his idiocy was somehow my fault.  I

 just went on my way and left him and the cabbie arguing over who was

 going to pay to fix the bike.
 
 Once in New Orleans I was about to get out of a cab under one of  
 those hotel verandas with multiple cab lanes.  I opened the door and

 was about to step out when an impatient driver tried to zip around  
 the cab way too fast and completely took the door off.  Getting out

 of cabs appears to be a dangerous thing for me.
 
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Re: Digital Leica M8?

2006-08-27 Thread Bob Shell
Nope.  I cleared the cache and both still work.  The tinyurl address  
would not have been cached, anyway, because I only made it today when  
I saw the post about the full URL not working.

Bob

On Aug 27, 2006, at 9:58 AM, Adam Maas wrote:

 Neither work for me either, and I am a site member, perhaps they  
 live on
 in yur browser cache?

 -Adam


 Bob Shell wrote:
 Must be a problem with your system.  Both work just fine for me.

 Bob

 On Aug 27, 2006, at 8:24 AM, David Savage wrote:


 That doesn't work either.

 I get:

 Invalid Attachment specified. If you followed a valid link, please
 notify the administrator

 Dave

 On 8/27/06, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Works fine if you fix the like break.

 Try this:

 http://tinyurl.com/o94t9

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Re: PESO: Munich Street at Dusk

2006-08-27 Thread Bob Shell

On Aug 27, 2006, at 1:24 PM, Bob W wrote:

 Was that the kerbside door, or the roadside door? It's normally
 considered polite (and sensible) to look behind you before you open
 the roadside door. If it was the kerbside door then the cyclist
 probably got what he deserved. An experienced cyclist should of course
 allow more than a door's width when he passes a car, but it's not
 always possible in London traffic.

Kerbside, or curbside as we Yanks would say.  I wouldn't get out on  
the other side unless I was forced to for some reason. I don't like  
dodging cars in London.

Habits are hard to break, so after almost getting hit on my first  
trip to England years ago, I started making a habit of looking both  
ways before crossing a street, since my natural habit from the USA is  
to look the wrong way.  I am extra cautious about traffic when in  
England, particularly when I am the one driving!!!

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RE: PESO: Munich Street at Dusk

2006-08-27 Thread Bob W
 
 Kerbside, or curbside as we Yanks would say.  I wouldn't get out on

 the other side unless I was forced to for some reason. I don't like

 dodging cars in London.
 
 Habits are hard to break, so after almost getting hit on my first  
 trip to England years ago, I started making a habit of looking both

 ways before crossing a street, since my natural habit from 
 the USA is  
 to look the wrong way.  I am extra cautious about traffic when in  
 England, particularly when I am the one driving!!!
 

I know. The first time I ever drove in France I found myself on a
collision course with someone and was cursing at swearing at the idiot
for driving on the wrong side of the road, flashing his lights at me,
when it dawned on me who the idiot was.

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Re: Digital Leica M8?

2006-08-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
still Invalid attachment specified...notify administrator
Regards,  Bob S.

On 8/27/06, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nope.  I cleared the cache and both still work.  The tinyurl address
 would not have been cached, anyway, because I only made it today when
 I saw the post about the full URL not working.

 Bob

 On Aug 27, 2006, at 9:58 AM, Adam Maas wrote:

  Neither work for me either, and I am a site member, perhaps they
  live on
  in yur browser cache?
 
  -Adam
 
 
  Bob Shell wrote:
  Must be a problem with your system.  Both work just fine for me.
 
  Bob
 
  On Aug 27, 2006, at 8:24 AM, David Savage wrote:
 
 
  That doesn't work either.
 
  I get:
 
  Invalid Attachment specified. If you followed a valid link, please
  notify the administrator
 
  Dave
 
  On 8/27/06, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Works fine if you fix the like break.
 
  Try this:
 
  http://tinyurl.com/o94t9
 
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Re: Digital Leica M8?

2006-08-27 Thread Brendan MacRae
Same here, invalid...

-Brendan

--- Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 still Invalid attachment specified...notify
 administrator
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On 8/27/06, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Nope.  I cleared the cache and both still work. 
 The tinyurl address
  would not have been cached, anyway, because I only
 made it today when
  I saw the post about the full URL not working.
 
  Bob
 
  On Aug 27, 2006, at 9:58 AM, Adam Maas wrote:
 
   Neither work for me either, and I am a site
 member, perhaps they
   live on
   in yur browser cache?
  
   -Adam
  
  
   Bob Shell wrote:
   Must be a problem with your system.  Both work
 just fine for me.
  
   Bob
  
   On Aug 27, 2006, at 8:24 AM, David Savage
 wrote:
  
  
   That doesn't work either.
  
   I get:
  
   Invalid Attachment specified. If you followed
 a valid link, please
   notify the administrator
  
   Dave
  
   On 8/27/06, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  
   Works fine if you fix the like break.
  
   Try this:
  
   http://tinyurl.com/o94t9
  
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Re:

2006-08-27 Thread Igor Roshchin

Rob,

If still needed, - it can be done here.
Contact me off the list.

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Sun, 27 Aug 2006 05:44:56 -0700
Digital Image Studio wrote:
OT: Anyone have 24MB of web space free?

I made some quick and dirty lens comparison shots last week (DA16-45
vs A20/2.8 and A24/2.8) but I have no time to pare them down nor a
place to put them temporarily for DL. So does anyone have 24MB of web
space free that would be willing to host a zip file full of JPGs?
Please let me know if you could host them for a few days so that
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Re: Digital Leica M8?

2006-08-27 Thread Bob Shell

On Aug 27, 2006, at 1:58 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

 still Invalid attachment specified...notify administrator
 Regards,  Bob S.

OK, I downloaded it and put the damned thing in my PESO folder.  Here  
it is:

http://www.bobshell.com/PESO/m8.jpg

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Re: PESO: Munich Street at Dusk

2006-08-27 Thread Bob Shell

On Aug 27, 2006, at 1:47 PM, Bob W wrote:

 I know. The first time I ever drove in France I found myself on a
 collision course with someone and was cursing at swearing at the idiot
 for driving on the wrong side of the road, flashing his lights at me,
 when it dawned on me who the idiot was.

You should try driving in the US Virgin Islands.  They drive on the  
proper side of the road, that is the left-hand side just as you Brits  
and Aussies do, but all the cars are US mainland issue with the  
steering wheels on the left.  Weird, illogical, and dangerous.  I've  
always found driving in the UK easier because having the steering  
wheel on the opposite side acts as a reminder that I'm not in Kansas  
anymore, Toto.

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M8 Digital

2006-08-27 Thread Bob Shell
Weird how this list works.  I downloaded the supposed M8 Digital  
image, tweaked it to have some shadow detail, and posted it on my web  
site in my PESO file at:

http://www.bobshell.com/PESO/m8.jpg

I sent a note saying so.  That note has not shown up on the list, but  
another that I answered well after that has shown up already.

Anyone know why the server can't keep posts in order?

If this list was on Yahoo, I'd take stuff like this for granted, but  
we're not yahoos here.

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Re: Full Frame/Canon

2006-08-27 Thread Ryan Brooks
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 The '1.5x crop' sensor format was chosen as a reasonable compromise 
Nah, not chosen.  Dictated by economics.

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Re: M8 Digital

2006-08-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob Shell wrote:

Weird how this list works.  I downloaded the supposed M8 Digital  
image, tweaked it to have some shadow detail, and posted it on my web  
site in my PESO file at:

http://www.bobshell.com/PESO/m8.jpg

I sent a note saying so.  That note has not shown up on the list, but  
another that I answered well after that has shown up already.

Anyone know why the server can't keep posts in order?

I just checked the timestamps in the headers and it seems the list
server *does* keep them in order (indeed, I received them in order -
this second post came well after your first one).

It's just propagation of the outgoing messages from the list server,
passing through the swirls and eddies of the Internet on their way to
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Re: Full Frame/Canon

2006-08-27 Thread Ryan Brooks
Adam Maas wrote:
 The only complaints about crop factors and telephoto's I've run acros 
 are about 85's. Not many people are happy that their uber-pricey 
 portrait tele's are now too long for general use and the 50's don't have 
 the bokeh of those 85's. The biggest complainers seem to be the Canon 
 users (but Canon 85 f1.2L's are ridiculously expensive).

 -Adam

   
My complaint is about normal lengths, ala 50mm.  A 31mm perspective is 
fine, but the 31mm focal length doesn't look normal at all to me. 

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The past is another country.

2006-08-27 Thread Bob W
They do things differently there*.

But apparently the mobile phones are much the same.

I found the time travel option on my digital camera menu today, so I
thought I'd give it a try:
http://www.web-options.com/Extras/

It seems to work ok.

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Re: M8 Digital

2006-08-27 Thread Scott Loveless
On 8/27/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It's just propagation of the outgoing messages from the list server,
 passing through the swirls and eddies of the Internet on their way to
 you...


Maybe the tubes are clogged.

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Re: M8 Digital

2006-08-27 Thread Mat Maessen
On 8/27/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It's just propagation of the outgoing messages from the list server,
 passing through the swirls and eddies of the Internet on their way  to you...

Swirls and eddies? Those are class 5 rapids out there. With rabid
alligators in the water. :-)

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Re: Comments on FA 24-90, please

2006-08-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Aug 27, 2006, at 1:25 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:

 Any lens hood is a compromise on a zoom lens at some point or
 another. A tulip shaped hood gives a little more coverage than a
 barrel shaped hood, but only in a four-pronged shape that has edges
 which must be oriented correctly or you get vignetting. And it's
 harder to fit a hood cap  with a more complex lens hood shape.

 Sorry, I need to process your statement a bit: are you saying that a
 tulip hood in principle gives more protection than a barrel hood but
 is harder to design, so results in reality vary?

Yes. The degree of extra protection is often compromised by a less- 
than-efficient design to the point that it's a toss up between a  
short but effective at shorter focal length settings hood and a tulip  
shaped hood that does a slightly better job at longer focal lengths.

I find that tulip shaped hoods tend to be a lot less convenient in  
use so usually just fit a decent short standard hood for good flare  
protection with short focal lengths and make do with a shorter than  
optimal hood at longer focal lengths. Of course, I'm only using one  
zoom lens at this point (the 20-35) so a standard hood works with  
reasonable effectiveness across the board.

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Re: The past is another country.

2006-08-27 Thread graywolf
That option is on page 235 of my cameras reference manual, but for some 
reason it will not print out anything beyond page 234. Therefore I have 
been unable to figure out how to use it.

Niffy photos, Bob.

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 They do things differently there*.
 
 But apparently the mobile phones are much the same.
 
 I found the time travel option on my digital camera menu today, so I
 thought I'd give it a try:
 http://www.web-options.com/Extras/
 
 It seems to work ok.
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: Comments on FA 24-90, please

2006-08-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
No question: for a film SLR, buy the Pentax standard hood. It's the  
most convenient in use.

I tested the 24-90 briefly and bought the 28-105/3.2-4.5 instead due  
to the difference in price, but after a while I found that the  
28-105's shortcomings when wide open at the longer tele settings  
would have been worth the price for the 24-90. (Not to say the 28-105  
is a poor performer, it's just not at its best wide open past 70mm.)  
The 24-90's gain in field of view at the wide end would be useful,  
it's improved wide open performance at the long end gives it much  
more capability for me.

I have since sold the 28-105/3.2-4.5 and have the 24-90 on my  
shopping list, but I don't really think I'll buy one because I'm  
finding that sticking with primes from 50mm and up works fine for me.

Godfrey

On Aug 27, 2006, at 1:17 AM, Pancho Hasselbach wrote:

 Godfrey,

 As I was trying to say, following your advice would mean I'd have  
 to get
 myself an *istDxxx or something like that. I'm still on film, there's
 only two PS digis around here (whereas one of them is an Oly C-5050,
 which isn't PS only).

 Thel lens arrived yesterday, I'll try it and if it's as good as  
 expected
 I surely won't regret spending some money on an appropriate hood.

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Re: FA lenses on *istDL...focus issues?

2006-08-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I would bet that it's an issue particular to specific lenses used  
with the *ist D series bodies. The DSLR bodies, at least until the K  
series came out, seem to have somewhat more sensitive/finicky servo  
drive motors and AF sensing algorithms. Lenses vary, unit by unit, in  
the friction of their drive system and the quality of their  
connections, etc. Some particular lenses seem to be just out of the  
sweet spec range that operate without issues.

 From all reports I've heard so far, the K100D's AF servo is much  
more positive and higher powered in operation, which should mean that  
variances in the lenses will no longer be so much of an issue. I  
wouldn't worry too much about the K10D ... if it proves to have *at  
least* the K100D's improved AF performance, it will be no problems.

Godfrey


On Aug 27, 2006, at 9:09 AM, Brendan MacRae wrote:

 Thanks, Dario. It seems to be an issue with the
 digitals and certain F and FA lenses. It's the first
 I'd heard of it but makes me warry of the new camera
 (K10D). Hopefully the K series digitals won't have
 these compadibilty issues since no one's mentioned the
 issue on the K cameras yet. But, they're brand new, so
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Re: OT: Anyone have 24MB of web space free?

2006-08-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I have space if you're still looking. Let me know.

Godfrey

On Aug 27, 2006, at 5:41 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote:

 I made some quick and dirty lens comparison shots last week (DA16-45
 vs A20/2.8 and A24/2.8) but I have no time to pare them down nor a
 place to put them temporarily for DL. So does anyone have 24MB of web
 space free that would be willing to host a zip file full of JPGs?
 Please let me know if you could host them for a few days so that
 anyone interested can check them out.

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Re: M8 Digital

2006-08-27 Thread graywolf
Internet paths are a drunkard's walk. One email may go directly from a 
to b, another may go from a to z to h to g to y to k to e to r to b. 
Obviously the first message would arrive sooner than the second. It 
works amazingly well unless some server along the way accepts the 
message and then crashes before sending it on. To prevent that from 
causing a problem mail-servers send it out along several paths, and 
after it arrives the final mail-server says I already have that message, 
you may delete it. I have seen messages that have gone all the way 
around the world to get to a point a few miles away. That it normally 
only takes a few minutes is mind boggling.

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 Weird how this list works.  I downloaded the supposed M8 Digital  
 image, tweaked it to have some shadow detail, and posted it on my web  
 site in my PESO file at:
 
 http://www.bobshell.com/PESO/m8.jpg
 
 I sent a note saying so.  That note has not shown up on the list, but  
 another that I answered well after that has shown up already.
 
 Anyone know why the server can't keep posts in order?
 
 If this list was on Yahoo, I'd take stuff like this for granted, but  
 we're not yahoos here.
 
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Re: FA lenses on *istDL...focus issues?

2006-08-27 Thread Brendan MacRae

  From all reports I've heard so far, the K100D's AF
 servo is much  
 more positive and higher powered in operation, which
 should mean that  
 variances in the lenses will no longer be so much of
 an issue. I  
 wouldn't worry too much about the K10D ... if it
 proves to have *at  
 least* the K100D's improved AF performance, it will
 be no problems.
 
 Godfrey
 

That's good to know. You would figure that touting the
K series' backwards compatibility Pentax would have
these issues straightened out.

-Brendan
 On Aug 27, 2006, at 9:09 AM, Brendan MacRae wrote:
 
  Thanks, Dario. It seems to be an issue with the
  digitals and certain F and FA lenses. It's the
 first
  I'd heard of it but makes me warry of the new
 camera
  (K10D). Hopefully the K series digitals won't have
  these compadibilty issues since no one's mentioned
 the
  issue on the K cameras yet. But, they're brand
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Re: Full Frame/Canon

2006-08-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Aug 27, 2006, at 12:08 PM, Ryan Brooks wrote:

 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 The '1.5x crop' sensor format was chosen as a reasonable compromise
 Nah, not chosen.  Dictated by economics.

They could have chosen several different sized sensors in this size/ 
price class by the economics, including 4/3 and maybe even 1/3x.  
Choices were available. Choosing the 1.5x or 16x24mm sensor size was  
a choice for commonality of format proportions, sensible engineering  
from the lens design, and economics.

Personally, I'd have preferred a 4:3 proportion sensor. It would have  
fit my work from full frame to square to more oblong better, on  
average, with less overall waste of area for making my average crop.

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Re: Full Frame/Canon

2006-08-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Economics are certainly a factor in the choice of that sensor size,  
but it was, nevertheless, a choice. And it seems to have become the  
industry standard. That will lead to more development and better  
quality.
Paul
On Aug 27, 2006, at 3:08 PM, Ryan Brooks wrote:

 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 The '1.5x crop' sensor format was chosen as a reasonable compromise
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RE: PS CS2 OT

2006-08-27 Thread Bill Lawlor
I went to print some business cards with CS2 and discovered none of the
Picture Package options would format them correctly. Last time I printed a
batch I was using PS7. Has the Picture Package changed?

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Re: Full Frame/Canon

2006-08-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Huh?
On Aug 27, 2006, at 3:17 PM, Ryan Brooks wrote:



 My complaint is about normal lengths, ala 50mm.  A 31mm perspective is
 fine, but the 31mm focal length doesn't look normal at all to me.

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Re: Help buying a darkroom

2006-08-27 Thread Lucas Rijnders
On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 23:33:07 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm interested in buying a used darkroom.  I've come across what seems to
 be a good deal.  I'm sure some of you have more knowledge of this sort of
 thing than I do.

 for sale:
 Besler 23CII enlarger with Zone VI cold light head. Zone VI compensating
 enlarger timer with footswitch. Rodagon 80mm lens. Nikon 50mm lens. Peak
 grain focuser. Negative carriers. Saunders 4-blade easel. Cascade  
 archival
 print washer. Gra Lab print timer. Zone VI film washer. Three sizes of
 developing trays. Film loading bag. Sundries: steel tongs, thermometers,
 jugs, funnel, stir rod, print squeege, graduates, hand-colouring pencils,
 negative sleeves, film hangers, canned air, anti-static cloth, and more.
 $900. obo

 Thats about $800USD.  Assuming everything is in good condition (the  
 photos
 indicate that it is all fairly new), is that a good value?  I'm sure that
 I could knock $100 or so off the price, too.

I don't know if this particular outfit is good value, but I know that I  
paid €25 for a very large Vivitar colour enlarger with a 50mm nikkor that  
is said to be very good, and €50,- for a collection of the other stuff  
(developing tanks, trays, grips, spools, beakers etc, etc.). Most of that  
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Re: The past is another country.

2006-08-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Outstanding. Excellent compositions. Thanks for sharing.
Paul
On Aug 27, 2006, at 3:15 PM, Bob W wrote:

 They do things differently there*.

 But apparently the mobile phones are much the same.

 I found the time travel option on my digital camera menu today, so I
 thought I'd give it a try:
 http://www.web-options.com/Extras/

 It seems to work ok.

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Re: FA lenses on *istDL...focus issues?

2006-08-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Aug 27, 2006, at 12:46 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote:

 ... You would figure that touting the
 K series' backwards compatibility Pentax would have
 these issues straightened out.

If the issue is variances in individual lens' characteristics, it's  
hard to build in surety that *all* examples work perfectly even if  
compatibility for all series is supported.

None of the lenses I've used with the *ist DS have had any problems,  
and they have been K, M, A, F, FA, and DA series Pentax lenses (as  
well as the Zenitar-K 16/2.8 FE). Haven't gotten anything yet that  
was too far out of spec for my two bodies, I guess.

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Re: Full Frame/Canon

2006-08-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Aug 27, 2006, at 12:17 PM, Ryan Brooks wrote:

 The only complaints about crop factors and telephoto's I've run acros
 are about 85's. Not many people are happy that their uber-pricey
 portrait tele's are now too long for general use and the 50's  
 don't have
 the bokeh of those 85's. The biggest complainers seem to be the Canon
 users (but Canon 85 f1.2L's are ridiculously expensive).

 My complaint is about normal lengths, ala 50mm.  A 31mm perspective is
 fine, but the 31mm focal length doesn't look normal at all to me.

I'm not sure what you're saying, Ryan. If you're using a 16x24mm  
sensor and fit a 35mm lens, you get the same field of view as you do  
with a 50mm lens fitted on a 24x36mm film body. That implies the same  
perspectives as well, since perspective is a function of distance. A  
31mm lens is a little wider than that film 'normal' but is still  
within the range of normal.

What about the 31mm focal length doesn't look normal to you on your  
*ist D?

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Re: M8 Digital

2006-08-27 Thread Bob Shell

On Aug 27, 2006, at 3:13 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 I just checked the timestamps in the headers and it seems the list
 server *does* keep them in order (indeed, I received them in order -
 this second post came well after your first one).

 It's just propagation of the outgoing messages from the list server,
 passing through the swirls and eddies of the Internet on their way to
 you...

Why, then, does this only happen on this list and not on the others I  
am on?

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PESO: Renory

2006-08-27 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
The Port de Renory at the river Meuse and, in the background, the Ougrée
blast furnace plant of Cockerill Sambre (Arcelor). Renory (Liège),
Belgium. 

http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=1611448ref=sectionrefid=7

Comments and suggestions as always most welcome.

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Re: PESO: Munich Street at Dusk

2006-08-27 Thread Doug Franklin
Bob Shell wrote:

 Habits are hard to break, so after almost getting hit on my first  
 trip to England years ago, I started making a habit of looking both  
 ways before crossing a street, since my natural habit from the USA is  
 to look the wrong way.

I don't know if it's true, but one of my colleagues in England told me
some years ago that looking the wrong way and stepping out into traffic
was the #1 reason for injury among US tourists in England.  Luckily,
I've never trusted any driver but myself, and him only occasionally, so
I always look both ways even here. :-)

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Re: Comments on FA 24-90, please

2006-08-27 Thread Pancho Hasselbach
Godfrey DiGiorgi affirmed:
 No question: for a film SLR, buy the Pentax standard hood. It's the  
 most convenient in use.

That's what I'll do as soon as the test film returns.

 I tested the 24-90 briefly and bought the 28-105/3.2-4.5 instead due  
 to the difference in price, but after a while I found that the  
 28-105's shortcomings when wide open at the longer tele settings  
 would have been worth the price for the 24-90. (Not to say the 28-105  
 is a poor performer, it's just not at its best wide open past 70mm.)  
 The 24-90's gain in field of view at the wide end would be useful,  
 it's improved wide open performance at the long end gives it much  
 more capability for me.
 
 I have since sold the 28-105/3.2-4.5 and have the 24-90 on my  
 shopping list, but I don't really think I'll buy one because I'm  
 finding that sticking with primes from 50mm and up works fine for me.
 
 Godfrey

If a certain amount of primes was a reason against buying this zoom, I 
might not have bought it. I'm still pretending to be a photgrapher, not 
a collector, and use nearly every lens I own every now and then, some 
more, some less (Only one prime on the sale list at the moment, M 
3.5/135, for being one of three 135 I own; jealous of your FA 135, BTW). 
For 180 EUR, with warranty from a regular dealer, I could not resist; 
this was the lowest price I've ever seen for this lens, and might be for 
a long time.

I used the 24-90 today indoors at a little birthday party, and was very 
fond of the zoom range, especially on the wide end I could fit anything 
in the frame if necessary, which was not always possible with A35-105 or 
FA 4/28-70. As I don't think I will need very big enlargements of these 
social pictures a zoom is better to me to get the moment, than a prime 
(that I might have to change) to get the perfect frame. Anyway, as I've 
got lots of bodies, I might use zooms _and_ primes without changing 
lenses ;-)

And sometimes it's challenging to get by with just one prime.

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Re: M8 Digital

2006-08-27 Thread Ryan Brooks
graywolf wrote:
 Internet paths are a drunkard's walk. One email may go directly from a 
 to b, another may go from a to z to h to g to y to k to e to r to b. 
 Obviously the first message would arrive sooner than the second. It 
 works amazingly well unless some server along the way accepts the 
 message and then crashes before sending it on. To prevent that from 
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Re: Full Frame/Canon

2006-08-27 Thread Ryan Brooks
Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Huh?
 On Aug 27, 2006, at 3:17 PM, Ryan Brooks wrote:

   
The difference of a 50mm crop of a ~31mm lens versus a 50mm full-frame 
shot.
   
 My complaint is about normal lengths, ala 50mm.  A 31mm perspective is
 fine, but the 31mm focal length doesn't look normal at all to me.

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Re: Useless gearhead quiz (was - venting)

2006-08-27 Thread Pancho Hasselbach
Folks,

today in the train, I finally got it. The misterious feature of upcoming 
K10D will be a sensor with an aspect ration near 4x5, like the 6x7 has. 
As Pentax people lately like weird numbers, it'll be something like 
27x23mm, which is close to the 69x56mm ration of 6x7. This will make 
prints in the classic 10x12 format possible without a crop. As a side 
effect, the sensor will be a little larger, giving a smaller crop 
factor. Of course, DA lenses have all been designed to fully cover this 
weird and unique sensor from the very beginning. But if I told you this, 
I had to kill you.

So keep this secret, please, will you.
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Re: Full Frame/Canon

2006-08-27 Thread Ryan Brooks
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 On Aug 27, 2006, at 12:17 PM, Ryan Brooks wrote:

   
 The only complaints about crop factors and telephoto's I've run acros
 are about 85's. Not many people are happy that their uber-pricey
 portrait tele's are now too long for general use and the 50's  
 don't have
 the bokeh of those 85's. The biggest complainers seem to be the Canon
 users (but Canon 85 f1.2L's are ridiculously expensive).

   
 My complaint is about normal lengths, ala 50mm.  A 31mm perspective is
 fine, but the 31mm focal length doesn't look normal at all to me.
 

 I'm not sure what you're saying, Ryan. If you're using a 16x24mm  
 sensor and fit a 35mm lens, you get the same field of view as you do  
 with a 50mm lens fitted on a 24x36mm film body. That implies the same  
 perspectives as well, since perspective is a function of distance. A  
 31mm lens is a little wider than that film 'normal' but is still  
 within the range of normal.

 What about the 31mm focal length doesn't look normal to you on your  
 *ist D?
   
It appears to be a crop of a wide angle lens, which it is.

In particular, informal head and shoulders shots look a bit odd if I'm 
close to the subject.  The shoulder may seem enlarged if I'm taking a 
profile, for example.  Whereas a 50mm would compress this distance more.

I thought I would be at home with the 31mm limited on the D, but using a 
wide angle lens to achieve a normal-length crop is a bit wonky to me.  I 
still like it, I wish I was using a 50mm focal length instead of a 31mm 
lens cropped.


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Re: CF v SD Cards

2006-08-27 Thread Thibouille
Thanks. much appreciated.

 I made some quick and dirty comparisons between my DA16-45/4, A20/2.8
 and A24/2.8 on Friday, the DA isn't as bad as I recalled but it does
 have some strange characteristics that I'm at odds with.

 Sharpness wise the DA seems a pretty competent performer however it
 does also exhibit purple/green CA which on the skyline is a lot more
 noticeable than either of the primes at any aperture (though the A24
 exhibits some red/green CA). The DA also exhibits a strange tendency
 to stretch the corners of the frame far more than the fixed lenses
 (the fixed lenses do tend towards some barrel distortion but not
 significantly).

 In any case since I have little spare time at the moment I've made the
 test image files available as full res jpgs in a 24MB zip file at:

 http://home.exetel.com.au/loveday/DAZoomTest.zip

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Re: Full Frame/Canon

2006-08-27 Thread Thibouille
I have to admit that my SMC-F 28/2.8 on my D (more or less 42mm)
doesn't like normal at all, it does indeed feels like WA.
Even my FA 50/1.4 look more normal on my D than my 28... weird.

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Re: Canon v Sony

2006-08-27 Thread Thibouille
But awfully ugly they are!
I agree Canons or feels plastic as a plastic lighter..
So Oly,Pentax and Nikons have ok (or better)  bodies.

2006/8/27, Douglas Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 --- Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Well, KM/Sony is even worse IMO...

 The A100 has disappointing image quality, but I think
 the body itself is not bad. Not really special, but
 certainly not bad. It is a reasonable size, seems
 comfortable to hold and fairly well-built. I have only
 played with it a little but it's OK.

 I think it is a lot nicer than the 300D or 350D and
 probably the 400D too. These bodies are my absolute
 least favorite modern D-SLR bodies, except maybe for
 some of Olympus' odd creations (e.g. the E-300 which
 is about as pleasant to hold as a brick). They are
 cheaply made and have maddeningly poor ergonomics.
 This is, of course, done entirely on purpose. Aside
 from speed, the only reasons to buy a 10D, 20D or 30D
 over a 300D, 350D or 400D respectively are build
 quality and ergonomics. I don't like the ergonomics of
 my 20D, but I can live with them. I don't think I
 could shoot with a 300/350/400D, the ergonomics would
 drive me mad!

 I will take any entry level body from Pentax, Nikon or
 KM/Sony before these awful Canons.

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Re: Digital Leica M8?

2006-08-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
Thanks Bob,
Looks like an expensive way to use your Leica glass!
...I guess that's nothing new.
Regards,  Bob S.

On 8/27/06, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Aug 27, 2006, at 1:58 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

  still Invalid attachment specified...notify administrator
  Regards,  Bob S.

 OK, I downloaded it and put the damned thing in my PESO folder.  Here
 it is:

 http://www.bobshell.com/PESO/m8.jpg

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Re: The past is another country.

2006-08-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bob,

At first, I thought you were the lad in the first photo putting on his
cap.  Then I thought maybe it was your dad as a boy.  When I got to
Winston Churchill (?) entering down stairway into the Admiralty
Offices (?), I got somewhat confused.  The last image of the guy
sitting and dialing his cell phone really has me disoriented.

Could you show me how to do this with my Pentax?

Regards,  Bob S.

On 8/27/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 They do things differently there*.

 But apparently the mobile phones are much the same.

 I found the time travel option on my digital camera menu today, so I
 thought I'd give it a try:
 http://www.web-options.com/Extras/

 It seems to work ok.

 Cheers,

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Re: Coolscan (again)... don't try this at home

2006-08-27 Thread mike wilson
Digital Image Studio wrote:

 On 27/08/06, Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Anybody for taking your Coolscan 9000 apart?

http://www.marginalsoftware.com/LS8000Notes/cleaning_the_optics_of_the_ls.htm
 
 
 8000 perhaps?
 
 http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/P3074553.jpg
 
 They can leave the factory with film on the mirror and lens.
 

They both look better built than my Craposcan 2700F.  I think I've at 
least had the covers off everything interesting I've ever owned, except 
occasionally the ones that are really well designed to prevent ingress 
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Re: Full Frame/Canon

2006-08-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Aug 27, 2006, at 1:30 PM, Ryan Brooks wrote:

 It appears to be a crop of a wide angle lens, which it is.

 In particular, informal head and shoulders shots look a bit odd if I'm
 close to the subject.  The shoulder may seem enlarged if I'm taking a
 profile, for example.  Whereas a 50mm would compress this distance  
 more.

 I thought I would be at home with the 31mm limited on the D, but  
 using a
 wide angle lens to achieve a normal-length crop is a bit wonky to  
 me.  I
 still like it, I wish I was using a 50mm focal length instead of a  
 31mm
 lens cropped.

???

I don't know how you can tell the difference. The lenses' rendering  
qualities might be slightly different with respect to out of focus  
elements and rectilinear correction, but with regard to field of view  
and perspective: if the field of view is the same, the perspective  
will look the same.

A 31mm field of view on the *ist D is not equivalent to a 50mm field  
of view on 24x36mm format, for that you need a 35mm lens on the *ist  
D for the closest match. I don't have a 35mm film body to do a direct  
comparison myself, but looking at my older 35mm film work with 50mm  
lenses and comparing them to the *ist DS fitted with a 35mm f/2 lens,  
there is *no* difference in field of view of any significance and the  
perspective is identical.

Please post a pair of photographs that illustrate what you're seeing.

Godfrey

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Re: Full Frame/Canon

2006-08-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Aug 27, 2006, at 1:50 PM, Thibouille wrote:

 I have to admit that my SMC-F 28/2.8 on my D (more or less 42mm)
 doesn't like normal at all, it does indeed feels like WA.
 Even my FA 50/1.4 look more normal on my D than my 28... weird.

Again, please post a couple of comparison photographs showing what  
you mean. Obviously, 28mm on the D is a wide normal, not equivalent  
to a 50mm lens on 35mm film. A 35mm lens on the D should look  
*identical* to a 50mm lens rendering on film.

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Re: M8 Digital

2006-08-27 Thread graywolf
Read the path lists from a large bunch of emails and get back to me on 
that.

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 to b, another may go from a to z to h to g to y to k to e to r to b. 
 Obviously the first message would arrive sooner than the second. It 
 works amazingly well unless some server along the way accepts the 
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Re: FA lenses on *istDL...focus issues?

2006-08-27 Thread Brendan MacRae
 None of the lenses I've used with the *ist DS have
 had any problems,  
 and they have been K, M, A, F, FA, and DA series
 Pentax lenses (as  
 well as the Zenitar-K 16/2.8 FE). Haven't gotten
 anything yet that  
 was too far out of spec for my two bodies, I guess.
 
 Godfrey


In light of that, it would seem to be a fairly rare
event to suffer these focus issues.

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RE: The past is another country.

2006-08-27 Thread Bob W
 Could you show me how to do this with my Pentax?

I only have the instructions for the Olympus, but the Pentax isn't
likely to be much different - they're probably based on the same
patent.

Instruction for the time travelling mode.

Warning: do not use for present travelling across many distant. Do not
using it alone in the shower, and not to be drunk please. May contain
nuts for external application only.

Travelling mode in time is not a toy. For Christmas only.

All parts changing and disassemblage of adults only.

Please put the buttery in the buttery box and disengage engagement
assembler. Turn right then left to starboard 3 degrees. Push the
switch with electricity caution voltage.

Let time pass in one direction or another.

Do not touch your body with vibrating contact. Do not touch partners
body while writhing.

Freely control speed with spring pedal sprocket please.

When replicate and foldaway buckle application, decelerant status you
are disembarking.

Remember which time from you came. Then go back there in reverse
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 Subject: Re: The past is another country.
 
 Bob,
 
 At first, I thought you were the lad in the first photo putting on
his
 cap.  Then I thought maybe it was your dad as a boy.  When I got to
 Winston Churchill (?) entering down stairway into the Admiralty
 Offices (?), I got somewhat confused.  The last image of the guy
 sitting and dialing his cell phone really has me disoriented.
 
 Could you show me how to do this with my Pentax?
 
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On 8/27/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  They do things differently there*.
 
  But apparently the mobile phones are much the same.
 
  I found the time travel option on my digital camera menu today, so
I
  thought I'd give it a try:
  http://www.web-options.com/Extras/
 
  It seems to work ok.
 
  Cheers,
 
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Re: PESO: Renory

2006-08-27 Thread Brendan MacRae
Beautiful, Ralf. Much more serene than the last one.
Moody, but not gloomy. Very sharp, too, lots of
detail.

Very nice.

-Brendan

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 blast furnace plant of Cockerill Sambre (Arcelor).
 Renory (Liège),
 Belgium. 
 

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Re: K100D Review and Commentary by Mike Johnston

2006-08-27 Thread japilado
Nice review.  Although,  deep down in my psyche,  I still rankle about the
compatibiltiy of older K-mount lenses,  I did get kind of get use to the
extra step using my *ist D.   I like the anti-shake feature of the K100.
 The price seems right, too.  Don't know If I will spring for the K100 or
even the more advance model coming out later this year.  My *ist D and I
get along well.

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RE: The past is another country.

2006-08-27 Thread Bob W
Thanks Paul - I appreciate the compliment.

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 Outstanding. Excellent compositions. Thanks for sharing.
 Paul
 On Aug 27, 2006, at 3:15 PM, Bob W wrote:
 
  They do things differently there*.
 
  But apparently the mobile phones are much the same.
 
  I found the time travel option on my digital camera menu today, so
I
  thought I'd give it a try:
  http://www.web-options.com/Extras/
 
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Re: Re: PESO - no lighthouse here

2006-08-27 Thread Russell Kerstetter
 looks like Colorado between Colorado Springs and Denver

close!  it's near sulphur springs, west and a little north of Denver

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=enclient=safariq=sulphur+springs+80451ie=UTF8oe=UTF-8z=9ll=39.835959,-105.339661spn=1.100919,1.95282om=1

are from this area?  I live in Broomfield, in NW Denver

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Re: Digital Leica M8?

2006-08-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/8/06, Bob Shell, discombobulated, unleashed:


OK, I downloaded it and put the damned thing in my PESO folder.  Here  
it is:

http://www.bobshell.com/PESO/m8.jpg


Oooh. :-)

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