Re: PESO: Jasper National Park

[John Taylor]

Mike,
Nice capture & monochrome conversion! My only qualm is that it would  
be nice if more detail could be pulled from the shadow areas.
I like your photoblog also by the way. Thanks for sharing.

JayT

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Re: Hello! (introduction)

[Boris Liberman]

Mike, hello from (currently) rainy Middle East.

> I've flirted with owning a Pentax for several years, but I've only just 
> now taken the plunge (with a K10.) This is a superb camera. But right 
> now I'm more surprised at the size of the Pentax Community.  I think 
> I've seen 2,000 e-mails on this list in just over a week!  It's good to 
> know that I'm not the only one out there that isn't shooting CanoNikon.

This would be a case of slightly above normal activity of the list. If 
you stay, which undoubtedly you will, you will get to experience the 
PDML in its frantic mood. That's what I'd call serious ;-).

Cheers.

Boris

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K10D: Discovered Hot Pixel on my New Camera

[John Taylor]

Just wondering If other on the list think this is anything to worry  
about overall. I discovered that my new (Nov 06) K10 has a hot (or  
dead) pixel. I hadn't noticed in my initial images, but looking at  
some recent low light pics it is clearly there as well as the earlier  
overlooked shots.
I shoot exclusively in RAW so I know my software programs can take  
care of this, but it really bugs the hell out of me that I shell out   
some decent money for the new DSLR to find this out . But then again  
maybe it fairly common and a single is not that much to worry about.  
I know I wouldn't accept a $900 LCD monitor that had a defective  
pixel right off the bat.  Will Pentax provide a return for another  
body? What would you do?

Thanks,
JayT

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Re: Hello! (introduction)

[John Francis]

On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 10:17:45PM -0600, Mike Dausin (PDML) wrote:
> rg2 wrote:
> > Hi Mike, welcome to the list.  What part of Austin do you live in?  
> Hello rg2!
> 
> I actually live in Cedar Park right now, but I also lived in Round Rock 
> for several years while I was an indentured servant employee at Dell.  

Hmmm.   My brother lives in Cedar Park, and his wife used to work at Dell.


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Re: OT: Stephen Hawking sings

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: Steve Jolly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/01/19 Fri AM 12:17:24 GMT
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: Re: OT: Stephen Hawking sings
> 
> Bob Shell wrote:
> > This is pretty incredibly weird:
> >
> > http://www.stephenhawkingsings.co.uk/
> 
> See also http://www.mchawking.com/multimedia.php?page_function=mp3z

"I'm bad like Dolamite(sic)"?

I didn't know magnesium based sedimentary rocks were so nasty.


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Re: PESO: Last Apples

[Boris Liberman]

Rick, I should say that the light made me immediately think about the 
autumn.

Well done.

Rick Womer wrote:
> The last apples of the season, at the local farmer's
> market in mid-December.
> 
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5458065
> 
> ist D, FA 16-45, ISO 200, 1/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/8, RAW, minor
> adjustments in PE4.
> 
> Comments most welcome.
> 
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Re: PESO - Old Paramus Church Cemetery

[Boris Liberman]

Ed, it most definitely works for me. It has the mood, the atmosphere, it 
makes me feel something, which I shall not describe here, but it most 
definitely works!

Boris




Ed Keeney wrote:
> http://picasaweb.google.com/ewkphoto/PentaxK100DPicturesAlmostDailyJanuary2007/photo#502047314964050
> 
> Could be my best with the K100d so far - still trying.  Converted to
> B&W in PS Elements 5.
> 
> Comments appreciated
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Re: PESO: When a girl needs a nap

[Boris Liberman]

Sweet,

But I have some kind of aversion for pacifiers. Galia decided she did 
not like the idea very early. So, I kind of suggest to consider that at 
least she'll be sleeping without the pacifier...

Boris


Paul Stenquist wrote:
> When a girl needs a nap, a girl needs a nap. In a pinch, the kitchen  
> floor will do.
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5452813&size=lg
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5452791&size=lg
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Re: Hello! (introduction)

[mike wilson]

> From: Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/01/19 Fri AM 04:33:37 GMT
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: Re: Hello! (introduction)
> 
> Hmm, you got me going to dictionary.com.  When the word is plural, then 
> it can refer to underwear, but when its not, like "unmentionable acts", 
> then its just like unspeakable.
> 
> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/unmentionable
> 
> Interesting
> 
> In any event, we should form a lens rescue group to save those kidnapped 
> lenses from Cotty and free them from his unspeakable dungeon of torture. 
>   Esp that A* 85 1.4!!!

You've got it the wrong way round.  He's actually educating his Canon body.


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21 limited vs 16-45 f4

[Brian Dunn]

Would anyone who has both of these care to comment on whether the 21 limited 
is better than the 16-45 at 21?

I have the 16-45 and am wondering if the 21 would be better for photographing 
large groups of people.  ( i.e. the mild distortion probably isn't an issue, 
but resolution is important )


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Re: PESO: Hogafication

[Boris Liberman]

Mark,

> I'm a big fan of Holgas and other toy cameras. The other day I pulled a 
> lens off a Holga, drilled a hole in a Pentax K body cap, and glued the 
> lens into place. As a result, my K mount bodies are now focus-free and 
> have that nice Holga-ish look that comes from using a single element 
> plastic lens.

It really reminded me of that Helios 44 lens (58 mm f/2.0) that was 
converted to a single element lens for me by a friend...

Boris

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Re: I toot just toot won toot toot !?

[Digital Image Studio]

On 19/01/07, F Mckenty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Horn blowers anomalous would like to introduce it's new member:
> sir Francis Pentaxshooter Proudfoot Mckenty!

LOL, well done, toot away I say ;-)

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A warning about mail filtering

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

Ladies and gentlemen, as of now it happened several times: the e-mail I 
sent out or I received from fellow PDMLers ended up either in my spam 
folder or marked as spam by GMail filtering. It did not happen too many 
times, but it indeed took place.


Thanks.

Boris

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Re: A warning about mail filtering

[David Savage]

Yes, it happens.

I manually empty my spam filter frequently, so I can check to see if
any of the messages are genuine.

If too much builds up it all goes into the bit bucket. :-)

Cheers,

Dave

On 1/19/07, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Ladies and gentlemen, as of now it happened several times: the e-mail I
> sent out or I received from fellow PDMLers ended up either in my spam
> folder or marked as spam by GMail filtering. It did not happen too many
> times, but it indeed took place.

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Re: I toot just toot won toot toot !?

[David Savage]

Congratulations Francis!

Now you need the bumper sticker:

F.I.G. J.A.M.

Cheers,

Dave


On 1/19/07, F Mckenty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Horn blowers anomalous would like to introduce it's new member:
> sir Francis Pentaxshooter Proudfoot Mckenty!
>
> I just received a call from the assistant editor of Pacific Yachting
> magazine informing me that I had just won first place in their annual
> photo contest. I completely lost it when I was on the phone and started
> yelling "I Won! I Won! at my office mates (which the lady from Pacific
> Yachting found rather amusing).
> The photo ( http://www.islandlight.ca/showphoto.php?image_id=211 ) was,
> in my opinion, the worst of the three that I entered, but hey, the prize
> is a  Optio W20  so I'm not going to
> complain. Our decks don't always stay as dry as it is in that photo so
> having a water proof camera will make for many more and better photo
> opportunities. Sorry to bother you with my little bragging session but
> I'm a little excited (this is the first photo contest I've won and also
> the largest one I've ever entered).
> Any one on the list have one of these things? Are they good?
>
> By buy bye,
> Francis
>
> www.islandlight.ca
>
>
> PS.
> That photo was one of the first (meaning in the fist two hundred) shots
> taken with my DS.
>
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Re: K10D pre-release firmware 1.10 now wireless flash

[David Savage]

So did you take the risk & install it?

Cheers,

Dave

On 1/19/07, Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Firmware for K10D IS here...
> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=21716233
>
> 1.10 Firmware can be downloaded from here:
> http://www.4shared.com/dir/1796154/f4cc7649/sharing.html

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Re: K10D: Discovered Hot Pixel on my New Camera

[David Savage]

There is no guarantee that a replacement body will not have 1 or more
hot/stuck pixels.

My *istD had 3 when I got it, & I didn't notice them until I did a
specific hot pixel test. I exclusively shoot RAW so it's never been an
issue.

Out of the 10 million plus photo sites on the K10D's CCD
(technologically, quite a bit different to an LCD), if only 1 is
faulty your in pretty good shape.

Cheers,

Dave

On 1/19/07, John Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just wondering If other on the list think this is anything to worry
> about overall. I discovered that my new (Nov 06) K10 has a hot (or
> dead) pixel. I hadn't noticed in my initial images, but looking at
> some recent low light pics it is clearly there as well as the earlier
> overlooked shots.
> I shoot exclusively in RAW so I know my software programs can take
> care of this, but it really bugs the hell out of me that I shell out
> some decent money for the new DSLR to find this out . But then again
> maybe it fairly common and a single is not that much to worry about.
> I know I wouldn't accept a $900 LCD monitor that had a defective
> pixel right off the bat.  Will Pentax provide a return for another
> body? What would you do?
>
> Thanks,
> JayT
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Re: OT: Stephen Hawking sings

[David Savage]

On 1/19/07, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bob Shell wrote:
>
> > This is pretty incredibly weird:
> >
> > http://www.stephenhawkingsings.co.uk/
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
> Try the link to the Dr Who site at the bottom and enjoy their duet.
> Number five on the list.

LOL

I love "The Doctor sings: House of the Rising Sun"

Cheers,

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Re: I toot just toot won toot toot !?

[F Mckenty]

Huh?

F

David Savage wrote:
> Congratulations Francis!
> 
> Now you need the bumper sticker:
> 
> F.I.G. J.A.M.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> On 1/19/07, F Mckenty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Horn blowers anomalous would like to introduce it's new member:
>> sir Francis Pentaxshooter Proudfoot Mckenty!
>>
>> I just received a call from the assistant editor of Pacific Yachting
>> magazine informing me that I had just won first place in their annual
>> photo contest. I completely lost it when I was on the phone and started
>> yelling "I Won! I Won! at my office mates (which the lady from Pacific
>> Yachting found rather amusing).
>> The photo ( http://www.islandlight.ca/showphoto.php?image_id=211 ) was,
>> in my opinion, the worst of the three that I entered, but hey, the prize
>> is a  Optio W20  so I'm not going to
>> complain. Our decks don't always stay as dry as it is in that photo so
>> having a water proof camera will make for many more and better photo
>> opportunities. Sorry to bother you with my little bragging session but
>> I'm a little excited (this is the first photo contest I've won and also
>> the largest one I've ever entered).
>> Any one on the list have one of these things? Are they good?
>>
>> By buy bye,
>> Francis
>>
>> www.islandlight.ca
>>
>>
>> PS.
>> That photo was one of the first (meaning in the fist two hundred) shots
>> taken with my DS.
>>
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Re: I toot just toot won toot toot !?

[David Savage]

F&#k I'm Good  Just Ask Me

Dave :-)

On 1/19/07, F Mckenty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Huh?
>
> F
>
> David Savage wrote:
> > Congratulations Francis!
> >
> > Now you need the bumper sticker:
> >
> > F.I.G. J.A.M.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Dave

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Re: Pentax price hike?

[David Savage]

Well, when they sell the body so cheaply, they have to make profit elsewhere.

Also, consider that a DSLR body has a shorter lifespan than a film
body because technological improvements.

This is why I think the DA* lenses will be very expensive.

Cheers,

Dave

On 1/19/07, Bertil Holmberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> DCWatch Longtime test #6 focuses on accessories such as extension
> tubes and other gizmos that makes strange things to lenses.
>
> http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/longterm/2007/01/19/5391.html
>
> It looks as if Pentax is planning to increase the price on these
> items that are expensive to make and keep in stock, probably as they
> don't sell in significant numbers. Judging from the table, many items
> will double in price.
>
> The Japanese press announcement is dated 11507 so I guess it will be
> a few days until we see something similar in English.

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Re: K10D pre-release firmware 1.10 now wireless flash

[Digital Image Studio]

On 19/01/07, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So did you take the risk & install it?

Not saying, but if I did it worked well, I guess ;-)

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RE: K10D pre-release firmware 1.10 now wireless flash

[Rob Brigham]

Order is placed with supplier - delivery Monday!!

This is just what I have been waiting for.  Just knowing the wireless
will be sorted is enough for me, even if I have to wait a few days for
the official firmware.

Big thanks to Pentax...!  (and to all those who have tested and verified
it works for me)

Rob


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I have zero patience and willpower, so the new firmware is in.  Wireless

flash works a treat!
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> Do believe I'll wait for the "real" release by Pentax, but... will the

> download/installation process be simply stated and clearly explained. 
> After downloading, I have the feeling that I'll not have the slightest

> idea what to do to load it to my K10D? I do know where the USB cord is

> but no idea as to the process. I love to fret.
>
> Jack
>
> --- Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Firmware for K10D IS here...
>>
> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=21716233
>>
>> 1.10 Firmware can be downloaded from here: 
>> http://www.4shared.com/dir/1796154/f4cc7649/sharing.html
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Re: K10D pre-release firmware 1.10 now wireless flash

[Patrick Genovese]

For those brave soules who have updated to the new firmware...  Any
improvements on?

1) Banding issue ?
2) Shutdown if exposure exceeds 32s ?

Regards

Patrick

On 1/19/07, J and K Messervy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have zero patience and willpower, so the new firmware is in.  Wireless
> flash works a treat!
> - Original Message -
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> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 11:18 AM
> Subject: Re: K10D pre-release firmware 1.10 now wireless flash
>
>
> > Do believe I'll wait for the "real" release by Pentax, but...
> > will the download/installation process be simply stated and clearly
> > explained. After downloading, I have the feeling that I'll not have the
> > slightest idea what to do to load it to my K10D? I do know where the
> > USB cord is but no idea as to the process.
> > I love to fret.
> >
> > Jack
> >
> > --- Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Firmware for K10D IS here...
> >>
> > http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=21716233
> >>
> >> 1.10 Firmware can be downloaded from here:
> >> http://www.4shared.com/dir/1796154/f4cc7649/sharing.html
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Re: PESO: Ice Storm

[Boris Liberman]

Paul,

I like "Ice Storm Four" the best. Cool ;-) stuff!

Boris


Paul Stenquist wrote:
> We had an ice storm in Michigan today. Shot some pics this morning and 
> again this afternoon. The first is with the K85/1.8, the second is with 
> the Vivitar Series 1 90/2.5 macro, and the last two are with the DA 
> 50-200. All on the K10D.
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5458250&size=lg
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5458281&size=lg
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5458304&size=lg
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5458320&size=lg
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Re: Another "fishy" PESO

[Boris Liberman]

Lovely! It is good I have a FE lens of my own.

;-)

Cory Papenfuss wrote:
>   Kenneth's fish on the rocks PESO reminded me of one of my favorite 
> uses for my 8mm Peleng... in the airplane.  One of the few ways to get a 
> feeling of the view.  Unprocessed (other than RAW conversion)
> 
> http://www.ee.vt.edu/~mythtv/PESO/5/
> 
> -Cory
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Re: Peso - My own HDR

[Boris Liberman]

I've a problem with this shot.

There is this white glow or whatever is the term just above the roofs of 
the buildings. Then there is same white artifact around the tree 
branches on the far left. Could be this is some kind of HDR effect. Yet, 
it makes this photo look unnatural.

The composition is right and I generally like the scene, given the same 
attitude we have towards snow in Israel ;-). But this HDR thingie - it 
is still very weird to my eyes.

Boris


Gonz wrote:
> Had a nice and rare subject: snow in Texas (not north).  Thought I would 
> take advantage of that to give HDR a try:
> 
> http://www.g0nz.com/picgallery/displayimage.php?album=4&pos=0
> 
> 
> If you click on the thumbnail version you get the bigger version.  For 
> those on slower connections, the big version is about 600K bytes 
> unfortunately, I forgot to lower the quality during the JPG conversion.
> 
> 
> Thanks for looking,
> 
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Re: K10D pre-release firmware 1.10 now wireless flash

[J and K Messervy]

I've been playing with wireless flash.  I'll try some long exposures 
tomorrow night.  I haven't had a problem with the 30 sec shutdown with the 
battery that's been through a few charge cycles.  Changing the iso with the 
ok button and front dial is really great though.
- Original Message - 
From: "Patrick Genovese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> For those brave soules who have updated to the new firmware...  Any
> improvements on?
>
> 1) Banding issue ?
> 2) Shutdown if exposure exceeds 32s ?
>
> Regards
>
> Patrick
>
> On 1/19/07, J and K Messervy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I have zero patience and willpower, so the new firmware is in.  Wireless
>> flash works a treat!
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Jack Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 11:18 AM
>> Subject: Re: K10D pre-release firmware 1.10 now wireless flash
>>
>>
>> > Do believe I'll wait for the "real" release by Pentax, but...
>> > will the download/installation process be simply stated and clearly
>> > explained. After downloading, I have the feeling that I'll not have the
>> > slightest idea what to do to load it to my K10D? I do know where the
>> > USB cord is but no idea as to the process.
>> > I love to fret.
>> >
>> > Jack
>> >
>> > --- Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> >> Firmware for K10D IS here...
>> >>
>> > http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=21716233
>> >>
>> >> 1.10 Firmware can be downloaded from here:
>> >> http://www.4shared.com/dir/1796154/f4cc7649/sharing.html
>> >>
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Re: K10D pre-release firmware 1.10 now wireless flash

[Feroze]

Is there a way to save your settings so that after the update you can 
restore it?

Feroze

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> On Jan 18, 2007, at 4:18 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>   
>> Do believe I'll wait for the "real" release by Pentax, but...
>> will the download/installation process be simply stated and clearly
>> explained. After downloading, I have the feeling that I'll not have  
>> the
>> slightest idea what to do to load it to my K10D? I do know where the
>> USB cord is but no idea as to the process.
>> I love to fret.
>> 
>
> Stop fretting.  ]'-)
>
> All of these firmware updates, on every camera I've owned to date,  
> install the same way:
>
> ... I use a card reader to manipulate the files on the card, I don't  
> the camera into the computer ...
>
> - Format a storage card (I always format in the camera).
> - Unpack the download.
> - Copy the firmware binary file to the root directory of the storage.
> - Make sure your camera has a fully charged set of batteries or  
> battery in it.
> - With the camera off, insert the card and close the card door.
> - Turn the camera on while holding down the Menu button (Pentax  
> specific).
>
> The camera will auto-load the firmware binary and present information  
> on the screen instructing you how to proceed to do the install. Once  
> it's done ...
>
> - shut off the camera
> - remove the storage card
> - delete the firmware binary from the card
> - put the card back into the camera, turn it on, and format the card  
> again.
>
> You're ready to start using the camera with the new firmware. If you  
> made various configuration settings, they are often erased and the  
> camera set to its defaults, so you'll have to re-set it the way you  
> want it.
>
> I always wait to obtain the FW updates directly from Pentax' website.
>
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Re: PESO: Downtown LA

[Boris Liberman]

Rick,

Rick Womer wrote:
> Hence this shot, with the art unobstructed by humans:
> 
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5465563
> 
> ist D, FA 10-17 fisheye, ISO 400, f/8 @ 1/1000, RAW,
> minor adjustments in ACR and PE4.
> 
> Comments invited!
> 
> Rick

This is really good though somewhat incomplete to my eye. I think that 
if you included the leftmost "leg" of this red construction, it would 
more to my taste ;-). But then again it was you and not me shooting.

Well done.

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Re: PESO -- The Bride (An ungaurded moment)

[Paul Stenquist]

Cute. And I wouldn't be surprised if she liked it.
Paul
On Jan 19, 2007, at 1:16 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

> As I've mentioned I've been shooting a few weddings lately.  This is a
> shot from about the middle of the reception.  It's one of my favorites.
> I'm not sure the bride in question would like it nearly as much.
>
> http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_thebride.html
>
> Technical Data:
> Pentax *ist-Ds ISO 800 @ 1/60sec
> smc Pentax F 35-70mm 3.5~4.5 @ 35mm f3.5.
>
> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
>
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Re: I toot just toot won toot toot !?

[Paul Stenquist]

Congratulations. Nice shot. A well deserved tootle!
Paul
On Jan 19, 2007, at 1:05 AM, F Mckenty wrote:

> Horn blowers anomalous would like to introduce it's new member:
> sir Francis Pentaxshooter Proudfoot Mckenty!
>
> I just received a call from the assistant editor of Pacific Yachting
> magazine informing me that I had just won first place in their annual
> photo contest. I completely lost it when I was on the phone and started
> yelling "I Won! I Won! at my office mates (which the lady from Pacific
> Yachting found rather amusing).
> The photo ( http://www.islandlight.ca/showphoto.php?image_id=211 ) was,
> in my opinion, the worst of the three that I entered, but hey, the 
> prize
> is a  Optio W20  so I'm not going to
> complain. Our decks don't always stay as dry as it is in that photo so
> having a water proof camera will make for many more and better photo
> opportunities. Sorry to bother you with my little bragging session but
> I'm a little excited (this is the first photo contest I've won and also
> the largest one I've ever entered).
> Any one on the list have one of these things? Are they good?
>
> By buy bye,
> Francis
>
> www.islandlight.ca
>
>
> PS.
> That photo was one of the first (meaning in the fist two hundred) shots
> taken with my DS.
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Re: I toot just toot won toot toot !?

[Boris Liberman]

Francis,

>> I just received a call from the assistant editor of Pacific Yachting
>> magazine informing me that I had just won first place in their annual
>> photo contest. I completely lost it when I was on the phone and started
>> yelling "I Won! I Won! at my office mates (which the lady from Pacific
>> Yachting found rather amusing).
>> The photo ( http://www.islandlight.ca/showphoto.php?image_id=211 ) was,
>> in my opinion, the worst of the three that I entered, but hey, the 
>> prize
>> is a  Optio W20  so I'm not going to
>> complain. Our decks don't always stay as dry as it is in that photo so
>> having a water proof camera will make for many more and better photo
>> opportunities. Sorry to bother you with my little bragging session but
>> I'm a little excited (this is the first photo contest I've won and also
>> the largest one I've ever entered).
>> Any one on the list have one of these things? Are they good?
>>
>> By buy bye,
>> Francis


I am sorry do disappoint you, but I really like this picture ;-). Well 
deserved price too.

Boris

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Re: PESO: When a girl needs a nap

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Boris. All four of children grew up with pacifiers. They're 
helpful when the child is teething. None of them were scarred :-). And 
they all gave them up by age three or so.
Paul
On Jan 19, 2007, at 3:32 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

> Sweet,
>
> But I have some kind of aversion for pacifiers. Galia decided she did
> not like the idea very early. So, I kind of suggest to consider that at
> least she'll be sleeping without the pacifier...
>
> Boris
>
>
> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> When a girl needs a nap, a girl needs a nap. In a pinch, the kitchen
>> floor will do.
>> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5452813&size=lg
>> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5452791&size=lg
>>
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Re: Peso - My own HDR

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/01/19 Fri AM 11:03:46 GMT
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: Re: Peso - My own HDR
> 
> I've a problem with this shot.
> 
> There is this white glow or whatever is the term just above the roofs of 
> the buildings. Then there is same white artifact around the tree 
> branches on the far left. Could be this is some kind of HDR effect. Yet, 
> it makes this photo look unnatural.
> 
> The composition is right and I generally like the scene, given the same 
> attitude we have towards snow in Israel ;-). But this HDR thingie - it 
> is still very weird to my eyes.
> 
> Boris

I wondered about that.  Looks like a highly oversharpened image without 
"blocking up" artefacts.

> 
> 
> Gonz wrote:
> > Had a nice and rare subject: snow in Texas (not north).  Thought I would 
> > take advantage of that to give HDR a try:
> > 
> > http://www.g0nz.com/picgallery/displayimage.php?album=4&pos=0
> > 
> > 
> > If you click on the thumbnail version you get the bigger version.  For 
> > those on slower connections, the big version is about 600K bytes 
> > unfortunately, I forgot to lower the quality during the JPG conversion.
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks for looking,
> > 
> > rg
> > 
> 
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Re: PESO: Ice Storm

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Boris.

On Jan 19, 2007, at 5:58 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

> Paul,
>
> I like "Ice Storm Four" the best. Cool ;-) stuff!
>
> Boris
>
>
> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> We had an ice storm in Michigan today. Shot some pics this morning and
>> again this afternoon. The first is with the K85/1.8, the second is 
>> with
>> the Vivitar Series 1 90/2.5 macro, and the last two are with the DA
>> 50-200. All on the K10D.
>> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5458250&size=lg
>> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5458281&size=lg
>> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5458304&size=lg
>> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5458320&size=lg
>> Paul
>>
>>
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Re: PESO: When a girl needs a nap

[DagT]

Sweet, I can agree on that .-)

None of my three boys wanted pacifiers. They haven't been sucking their finger 
either. Anything that wasn't food was spit out with contempt faster than we 
could get it in .-)

It did make them difficult to calm down sometimes when they were small, but but 
most of the time we were glad.  Especially later when we saw others trying to 
make their kids stop using them.

Dag.

> Fra: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Thanks Boris. All four of children grew up with pacifiers. They're 
> helpful when the child is teething. None of them were scarred :-). And 
> they all gave them up by age three or so.
> Paul
> On Jan 19, 2007, at 3:32 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
> 
> > Sweet,
> >
> > But I have some kind of aversion for pacifiers. Galia decided she did
> > not like the idea very early. So, I kind of suggest to consider that at
> > least she'll be sleeping without the pacifier...
> >
> > Boris
> >
> >
> > Paul Stenquist wrote:
> >> When a girl needs a nap, a girl needs a nap. In a pinch, the kitchen
> >> floor will do.
> >> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5452813&size=lg
> >> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5452791&size=lg
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Re: GESO - Snow Flake Gallery

[Boris Liberman]

Mark,

> Well, for about 30 minutes yesterday, it snowed and was cold enough to 
> capture the snowflakes and take their pictures. So - a few new snow 
> crystal macros at the top of this page:
> 
> http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/stream/stream04.htm
> 
> The sensor on my *ist-D is really dirty - this kind of work brings out 
> every flaw - so I didn't get around to touching up every speck of dirt 
> on the shots. I did buy some cleaning swabs today...

You make have to send few snow flakes over to my baby Galia. She really 
wanted to hold several in her hands. You know - to look at them really 
close ;-).

Great stuff... Be sure to clean your *istD sensor.

Boris


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Re: PESO - Couple of recent ones

[Boris Liberman]

Bruce, I like the bridge shot the most. Is it Golden Gate?

The rest is good, but somehow I am starting to get used to your work in 
a certain way. The bridge shot is nice deviation from your most common 
motif of calm tranquil nature.

Boris



Bruce Dayton wrote:
> No titles, hopefully that won't detract too much.
> 
> 
> Pentax K10D, DA 16-45/4, Handheld
> ISO 100, 1/45 sec @ f/6.7
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4243.htm
> 
> 
> Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, Handheld
> ISO 400, 1/350 sec @ f/8
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3477.htm
> 
> 
> Pentax K10D, DA 16-45/4, Handheld
> ISO 200, 1/250 sec @ f/9.5
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4244.htm
> 
> 
> Pentax K10D, A 70-210/4, Handheld
> ISO 200, 1/180 sec @ f/6.7
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4233.htm
> 
> Comments welcome
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Re: GESO ... Window People

[Boris Liberman]

I agree with Brendan here. On all counts. Including his mention of Juan.

Brendan MacRae wrote:
> Godfrey,
> 
> I really like three of these.
> 
> The woman with her coffee, the rag doll and the last
> one with the manequins. Good work.
> 
> I think a see a bit of Buhler in you!
> 
> -Brendan

Thanks for sharing. I feel like I just learned a lesson or two ;-).

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Re: Resent message

[Bob Sullivan]

John,
If your email address was [EMAIL PROTECTED] sending to Pentax-Discuss,
then I would be worried.  But it's not...  I hear you fine over here.
Regards,  Bob S.

On 1/19/07, John Coyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The following appears not to have got through - my apologies if you receive
> duplicates...
>
> Tim advised me just now that some members' filters designed to avoid JCO
> discussions are also catching contributions sent from my private email
> address - which I can't insert here because the rule would block it!  That
> might explain why some of my contributions seem to sink like a lead
> balloon
>
> May I venture to suggest that changing the rule to something like:
> "message body contains JCO"
> would be just as effective, and would also catch any responses?
>
> Hoping to be heard in future!
>
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Re: PESO - Tioga Pass Scenic

[Boris Liberman]

I concur ;-).

Boris

Cotty wrote:
> On 17/1/07, Brendan MacRae, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> http://www.primelensphoto.com/images/tioga_pass.jpg
>>
>> 67II, 55mm f4, Pentax Red Fliter, Plus-X.
>>
>> Comments encouraged.
> 
> 
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Re: Peso: Nora and Lily

[Boris Liberman]

Very sad story, and very emotional photo.

Keep yourself well, Ann!

Boris

ann sanfedele wrote:
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5471914
> 
> 
> I've been pretty much away -
> My friend Nora died on January 11th at 89 -
> We had been friends for  over 40 years.  
> NOt unexpected, but sad for the survivors, nonetheless.
> 
> She was sent off in royal style, in a very touching fashion.
> Her kids asked me to take photos of the proceedings, the
> party celebrating her, the burial and the interior of the house
> before things were taken down and stored or sold or passed on
> to children, grand children and great grand children... not that I
> had not already taken many pictures there - there were specific
> things that were especially treasured they wanted to remember as
> she had arranged them.
> 
> She would have preferred scattered ashes to burial, but these things
> are for those left behind and she tacitly consented.  
> 
> As it happens, the cemetery is the very one which Nora took me to
> in 1978 to point out the "No Permanent Planting" sign  that is in my book.
> Alas, it has been replaced with "No dogs allowed in Cemetery".
> 
> ann
> 
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Re: I toot just toot won toot toot !?

[Mark Roberts]

F Mckenty wrote:

>I just received a call from the assistant editor of Pacific Yachting
>magazine informing me that I had just won first place in their 
>annual photo contest.

Congratulations!

>photo (http://www.islandlight.ca/showphoto.php?image_id=211 ) 
>was, in my opinion, the worst of the three that I entered

The photos that other people like are often baffling to the 
photographer who took them. Get used to it :) As long as they like it 
enough to  buy it (or give it an award, in this case) that's all that 
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PESO: More McNaught from the 'burbs

[David Savage]

G'day All,

2 PESO's for the price of 1.

The first is uncropped, the second had about 1/8th of the RHS cropped (~200kb):



Any and all comments welcomed.


Cheers,

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Unemployed

[Scott Loveless]

Christie asked me yesterday if I was going to tell you guys about
this.  Since I spend more time reading the list than actually talking
to my real family I figured I would.

I quit my job.  Christie is going to start working full-time and I'm
going to stay home with the girls.  After crunching the numbers a bit,
we found that we'd be better off financially, plus I'll be home every
evening (first time in four years).  So yeah, I'm gonna be a
stay-at-home-dad.  I've read that "Mr. Mom" isn't received well by
most stay-at-home-dads, but I don't care if anyone calls me that.
I've been called worse and gotten over it rather quickly.

Brace yourselves.  I'm sure there are lots and lots of photos of my
kids coming to the list very, very soon.  And if you're anything like
me, there's nothing you like better than looking at photos of other
people's kids.  :)

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Re: Unemployed

[Digital Image Studio]

On 20/01/07, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've read that "Mr. Mom" isn't received well by
> most stay-at-home-dads, but I don't care if anyone calls me that.
> I've been called worse and gotten over it rather quickly.

Welcome to the club!

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Re: Discovered Hot Pixel on my New Camera

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "John Taylor" Subject: K10D: Discovered Hot Pixel on my New Camera


> Just wondering If other on the list think this is anything to worry
> about overall. I discovered that my new (Nov 06) K10 has a hot (or
> dead) pixel. I hadn't noticed in my initial images, but looking at
> some recent low light pics it is clearly there as well as the earlier
> overlooked shots.
> I shoot exclusively in RAW so I know my software programs can take
> care of this, but it really bugs the hell out of me that I shell out
> some decent money for the new DSLR to find this out . But then again
> maybe it fairly common and a single is not that much to worry about.
> I know I wouldn't accept a $900 LCD monitor that had a defective
> pixel right off the bat.  Will Pentax provide a return for another
> body? What would you do?

One defective pixel out of ten million?
I'd say you don't have a problem worth worrying about.
If you exchange the camera, most likely the replacement will have more dead 
or stuck pixels.

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Re: 21 limited vs 16-45 f4

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Jan 19, 2007, at 12:53 AM, Brian Dunn wrote:

> Would anyone who has both of these care to comment on whether the  
> 21 limited
> is better than the 16-45 at 21?
>
> I have the 16-45 and am wondering if the 21 would be better for  
> photographing
> large groups of people.  ( i.e. the mild distortion probably isn't  
> an issue,
> but resolution is important )

What do you mean by "better"?

I've not done any direct comparisons ... I sold the 16-45 long before  
the DA21 became available ... but I doubt the DA21 has any more  
rectilinear distortion than the DA16-45 set to 21mm FL. Neither is  
perfect, both are fine for most subjects, neither is really a lens  
designed for architecture.

While I'm also very sure that the DA21 has an edge on resolution and  
contrast, I'm also certain that the DA16-45 has more flexibility for  
photographic large groups of people because it has focal length  
flexibility ... both wider and narrower FoV choices can be made,  
allowing you to fit the FoV to the group better if vantage points are  
limited.

The DA21 is a better 'walk around' lens for me because it is much  
smaller and lighter. I like the way it balances better and allows the  
camera to remain more unobtrusive too, for candids and street  
photography.

Godfrey

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Re: Unemployed

[Boris Liberman]

Scott, of course now I could chat with you via GMail chat and we would 
love to see your kid's photos. And frankly, I'd like to have more time 
with my daughter as well. But the price you have to pay is very high.

Keep your nose high!

Boris


> Christie asked me yesterday if I was going to tell you guys about
> this.  Since I spend more time reading the list than actually talking
> to my real family I figured I would.
> 
> I quit my job.  Christie is going to start working full-time and I'm
> going to stay home with the girls.  After crunching the numbers a bit,
> we found that we'd be better off financially, plus I'll be home every
> evening (first time in four years).  So yeah, I'm gonna be a
> stay-at-home-dad.  I've read that "Mr. Mom" isn't received well by
> most stay-at-home-dads, but I don't care if anyone calls me that.
> I've been called worse and gotten over it rather quickly.
> 
> Brace yourselves.  I'm sure there are lots and lots of photos of my
> kids coming to the list very, very soon.  And if you're anything like
> me, there's nothing you like better than looking at photos of other
> people's kids.  :)
> 


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Re: yeah, another lens ...

[Carlos Royo]

Godfrey DiGiorgi escribió:
> I was in the neighborhood of Keeble & Shuchat Photography today so I  
> stopped in. Mistake. I noticed that they had one of the Pentax  
> FA28/2.8 AL lenses on the shelf. I've been tempted to buy one for  
> over a year. B&H has had that lens on backorder for months: I don't  
> know whether they'll ever get any more in. Pentax has no plans to  
> make the DA28/2 Limited that I want, to the best of any rumor I've  
> heard and some friends supposedly in the know. I want a 28mm prime.  
> So I bought the FA28. Managed to get it for what B&H are listing it  
> at, $220.
> 

Good purchase. It is almost as good as the FA 35 mm. 2.o you already have.

Carlos

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Re: Resent message

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I have my filter set up so that the trash deletions are unread in the  
trash basket so I could check them before hitting the 'empty trash'  
button. Haven't seen anything from you in there ... except for this  
message due to a rule exactly as you stated! ;-)

G

On Jan 18, 2007, at 11:57 PM, John Coyle wrote:

> The following appears not to have got through - my apologies if you  
> receive
> duplicates...
>
> Tim advised me just now that some members' filters designed to  
> avoid JxCO
> discussions are also catching contributions sent from my private email
> address - which I can't insert here because the rule would block  
> it!  That
> might explain why some of my contributions seem to sink like a lead
> balloon
>
> May I venture to suggest that changing the rule to something like:
> "message body contains JxCO"
> would be just as effective, and would also catch any responses?
>
> Hoping to be heard in future!


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Re: Resent message

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "John Coyle" Subject: Resent message


> The following appears not to have got through - my apologies if you 
> receive
> duplicates...
>
> Tim advised me just now that some members' filters designed to avoid JCO
> discussions are also catching contributions sent from my private email
> address - which I can't insert here because the rule would block it!  That
> might explain why some of my contributions seem to sink like a lead
> balloon
>
> May I venture to suggest that changing the rule to something like:
> "message body contains JCO"
> would be just as effective, and would also catch any responses?
>
> Hoping to be heard in future!

Sorry John, sometimes getting rid of one problem creates another. I've set 
up a rule based on your email address. Hopefully this should solve it.


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Re: K10D pre-release firmware 1.10 now wireless flash

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

You mean the user configuration settings you make? Not that I know of.

G

On Jan 19, 2007, at 3:24 AM, Feroze wrote:

> Is there a way to save your settings so that after the update you can
> restore it?


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Re: A warning about mail filtering

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Boris Liberman" Subject: A warning about mail filtering


> Hi!
>
> Ladies and gentlemen, as of now it happened several times: the e-mail I
> sent out or I received from fellow PDMLers ended up either in my spam
> folder or marked as spam by GMail filtering. It did not happen too many
> times, but it indeed took place.

It's an imperfect world.
Sometimes the problem lies with server side spam filtering, which is a 
little more difficult to control.

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Re: I toot just toot won toot toot !?

[ann sanfedele]

Mark Roberts wrote:

>F Mckenty wrote:
>
>  
>
>>I just received a call from the assistant editor of Pacific Yachting
>>magazine informing me that I had just won first place in their 
>>annual photo contest.
>>
>>
>Congratulations!
>
>>photo (http://www.islandlight.ca/showphoto.php?image_id=211 ) 
>>was, in my opinion, the worst of the three that I entered
>>
>>
>The photos that other people like are often baffling to the 
>photographer who took them. Get used to it :)
>

MARK!

> As long as they like it 
>enough to  buy it (or give it an award, in this case) that's all that 
>matters!
>  
>
Actually, I'd like to see the other two -
Congrats, by the way   um - you mean "least good, right?" :)
ann (who is just getting back on list

>
>  
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Re: A warning about mail filtering

[Boris Liberman]

Of course Bill, it is imperfect. I just wanted to point out something 
that made me think would be helpful if said out loud.

Boris


> - Original Message - 
> From: "Boris Liberman" Subject: A warning about mail filtering
> 
> 
>> Hi!
>>
>> Ladies and gentlemen, as of now it happened several times: the e-mail I
>> sent out or I received from fellow PDMLers ended up either in my spam
>> folder or marked as spam by GMail filtering. It did not happen too many
>> times, but it indeed took place.
> 
> It's an imperfect world.
> Sometimes the problem lies with server side spam filtering, which is a 
> little more difficult to control.
> 
> William Robb 
> 
> 


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Re: PESO: More McNaught from the 'burbs

[Charles Robinson]

On Jan 19, 2007, at 7:58, David Savage wrote:

> G'day All,
>
> 2 PESO's for the price of 1.
>
> The first is uncropped, the second had about 1/8th of the RHS  
> cropped (~200kb):
>
> 
>
> Any and all comments welcomed.
>

I am quite jealous.  Those look great!

On the second image - is all of that really just the tail from the  
comet, or is there something else going on there?

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Re: Unemployed

[pnstenquist]

Congratulations. A good move, I'm sure. I look forward to seeing pics of your 
kids.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: "Scott Loveless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Christie asked me yesterday if I was going to tell you guys about
> this.  Since I spend more time reading the list than actually talking
> to my real family I figured I would.
> 
> I quit my job.  Christie is going to start working full-time and I'm
> going to stay home with the girls.  After crunching the numbers a bit,
> we found that we'd be better off financially, plus I'll be home every
> evening (first time in four years).  So yeah, I'm gonna be a
> stay-at-home-dad.  I've read that "Mr. Mom" isn't received well by
> most stay-at-home-dads, but I don't care if anyone calls me that.
> I've been called worse and gotten over it rather quickly.
> 
> Brace yourselves.  I'm sure there are lots and lots of photos of my
> kids coming to the list very, very soon.  And if you're anything like
> me, there's nothing you like better than looking at photos of other
> people's kids.  :)
> 
> -- 
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> http://www.twosixteen.com
> Shoot more film!
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Re: PESO: Ice Storm

[David Savage]

Those are really neat.

I like them all, but "Ice Storm Eight" really appeals to me.

Cheers,

Dave

> Paul Stenquist wrote:
> > We had an ice storm in Michigan today. Shot some pics this morning and
> > again this afternoon. The first is with the K85/1.8, the second is with
> > the Vivitar Series 1 90/2.5 macro, and the last two are with the DA
> > 50-200. All on the K10D.
> > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5458250&size=lg
> > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5458281&size=lg
> > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5458304&size=lg
> > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5458320&size=lg
> > Paul

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Re: PESO: More McNaught from the 'burbs

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Jan 19, 2007, at 5:58 AM, David Savage wrote:

> 

Lovely! Particularly the first. It reminds me of the stunning IRAS  
launch that I had on the wall while I worked at NASA so many eons ago.

Godfrey

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Re: PESO: More McNaught from the 'burbs

[David Savage]

On 1/19/07, Charles Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jan 19, 2007, at 7:58, David Savage wrote:
>
> > G'day All,
> >
> > 2 PESO's for the price of 1.
> >
> > The first is uncropped, the second had about 1/8th of the RHS
> > cropped (~200kb):
> >
> > 
> >
> > Any and all comments welcomed.
> >
>
> I am quite jealous.  Those look great!

Thanks Charles.

> On the second image - is all of that really just the tail from the
> comet, or is there something else going on there?

That's all tail. Beautiful night for observation. Not a cloud in the sky.

After loosing sight of the comet the tail was quite obvious. It was
about 1 1/4-1 1/2 times the length of my hand when held up at arms
length.

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: Unemployed

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Digital Image Studio"
Subject: Re: Unemployed


> On 20/01/07, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I've read that "Mr. Mom" isn't received well by
>> most stay-at-home-dads, but I don't care if anyone calls me that.
>> I've been called worse and gotten over it rather quickly.
>
> Welcome to the club!

Maybe we should start another brotherhood. I decided to play stay at home 
dad for my two puppies until they are all grown up. She who earns money 
isn't in agreement with what all grown up means.
A good dog never actually "grows up".
I should be blissfully indolent for another few months though.

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Re: Unemployed

[Mark Roberts]

Scott Loveless wrote:

>I quit my job.  Christie is going to start working full-time and I'm
>going to stay home with the girls.  After crunching the numbers a bit,
>we found that we'd be better off financially, plus I'll be home every
>evening (first time in four years).  So yeah, I'm gonna be a
>stay-at-home-dad.

You're still coming to GFM, right?
;-)


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Re: yeah, another lens ...

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Jan 19, 2007, at 7:23 AM, Carlos Royo wrote:

>> .. FA28/2.8 AL ..
> Good purchase. It is almost as good as the FA 35 mm. 2.o you  
> already have.

Thanks Carlos!

The "wide-normal" field of view has traditionally been my favorite  
focal length, the Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8 was the very first lens I  
bought for the *ist DS, even before I received the body, so i suspect  
I'm really going to enjoy this one.

Hmm. I wonder if I have another one of those Kalt generic lens hoods  
in the drawer...

Godfrey

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Re: Unemployed

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I have no children but work out of my home, make my own schedule, and  
do a lot of the day to day "Mr Mom" stuff.

To quote my old friend and Nobel Laureate Richard Feinmann: "Why Do  
You Care What Other People Think?" ;-)

Godfrey


On Jan 19, 2007, at 6:03 AM, Scott Loveless wrote:

> Christie asked me yesterday if I was going to tell you guys about
> this.  Since I spend more time reading the list than actually talking
> to my real family I figured I would.
>
> I quit my job.  Christie is going to start working full-time and I'm
> going to stay home with the girls.  After crunching the numbers a bit,
> we found that we'd be better off financially, plus I'll be home every
> evening (first time in four years).  So yeah, I'm gonna be a
> stay-at-home-dad.  I've read that "Mr. Mom" isn't received well by
> most stay-at-home-dads, but I don't care if anyone calls me that.
> I've been called worse and gotten over it rather quickly.
>
> Brace yourselves.  I'm sure there are lots and lots of photos of my
> kids coming to the list very, very soon.  And if you're anything like
> me, there's nothing you like better than looking at photos of other
> people's kids.  :)


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Re: Unemployed

[Bob Shell]

From: "Scott Loveless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Christie asked me yesterday if I was going to tell you guys about
> this.  Since I spend more time reading the list than actually talking
> to my real family I figured I would.
>

Anyone who stays home and takes care of kids is not unemployed!

Bob

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Re: Unemployed

[DagT]

Great!

Regarding reactions I was home every second day with each of the two oldest 
when they were 6-12 months old, and my experience was that most men were 
postitive. Many women, however, told my wife that she was a bad mother for 
leaving her kids...

DagT
 
> Fra: "Scott Loveless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Christie asked me yesterday if I was going to tell you guys about
> this.  Since I spend more time reading the list than actually talking
> to my real family I figured I would.
> 
> I quit my job.  Christie is going to start working full-time and I'm
> going to stay home with the girls.  After crunching the numbers a bit,
> we found that we'd be better off financially, plus I'll be home every
> evening (first time in four years).  So yeah, I'm gonna be a
> stay-at-home-dad.  I've read that "Mr. Mom" isn't received well by
> most stay-at-home-dads, but I don't care if anyone calls me that.
> I've been called worse and gotten over it rather quickly.
> 
> Brace yourselves.  I'm sure there are lots and lots of photos of my
> kids coming to the list very, very soon.  And if you're anything like
> me, there's nothing you like better than looking at photos of other
> people's kids.  :)
> 
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Re: 21 limited vs 16-45 f4

[j]

Look into the 28mm shift lens (which I own), if you are photographing 
buildings etc...Jay



At 09:30 AM 1/19/07, you wrote:

>On Jan 19, 2007, at 12:53 AM, Brian Dunn wrote:
>
> > Would anyone who has both of these care to comment on whether the
> > 21 limited
> > is better than the 16-45 at 21?
> >
> > I have the 16-45 and am wondering if the 21 would be better for
> > photographing
> > large groups of people.  ( i.e. the mild distortion probably isn't
> > an issue,
> > but resolution is important )
>
>What do you mean by "better"?
>
>I've not done any direct comparisons ... I sold the 16-45 long before
>the DA21 became available ... but I doubt the DA21 has any more
>rectilinear distortion than the DA16-45 set to 21mm FL. Neither is
>perfect, both are fine for most subjects, neither is really a lens
>designed for architecture.
>
>While I'm also very sure that the DA21 has an edge on resolution and
>contrast, I'm also certain that the DA16-45 has more flexibility for
>photographic large groups of people because it has focal length
>flexibility ... both wider and narrower FoV choices can be made,
>allowing you to fit the FoV to the group better if vantage points are
>limited.
>
>The DA21 is a better 'walk around' lens for me because it is much
>smaller and lighter. I like the way it balances better and allows the
>camera to remain more unobtrusive too, for candids and street
>photography.
>
>Godfrey
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Re: PESO: More McNaught from the 'burbs

[David Savage]

Thanks Godders.

Now that you mention it, it does kind of resemble a rocket launch.

Cheers,

Dave

On 1/19/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Jan 19, 2007, at 5:58 AM, David Savage wrote:
>
> > 
>
> Lovely! Particularly the first. It reminds me of the stunning IRAS
> launch that I had on the wall while I worked at NASA so many eons ago.
>
> Godfrey

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Re: Unemployed

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Shell" Subject: Re: Unemployed


> Anyone who stays home and takes care of kids is not unemployed!
> 

Excellent.
I'll ask for a raise..

William Robb

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RE: Hello! (introduction)

[Tim Øsleby]

Hi Mike. Welcome onboard. If you like kill filing people, then you have come
to the right place ;-)

Come on Cotty, what is Boris doing at the list? I lie much better than him
;-)


Tim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Cotty
Sent: 18. januar 2007 20:27
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Subject: Re: Hello! (introduction)

On 18/1/07, Mike Dausin (PDML), discombobulated, unleashed:

>Hello, I've been lurking on the list for a week or two and thought it 
>was about time I introduce myself. (I actually sent a message once 
>already, but it doesn't look like it made it.  So forgive me if you get 
>this message twice)

Hi Mike, Cotty from the UK here. Pull up a stool.

Don't believe anything Frank, Mark, Bill, Paul, several Johns, a couple
of Pauls, and a Boris say.

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Re: Unemployed

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/01/19 Fri PM 03:08:54 GMT
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: Re: Unemployed
> 
> Scott Loveless wrote:
> 
> >I quit my job.  Christie is going to start working full-time and I'm
> >going to stay home with the girls.  After crunching the numbers a bit,
> >we found that we'd be better off financially, plus I'll be home every
> >evening (first time in four years).  So yeah, I'm gonna be a
> >stay-at-home-dad.
> 
> You're still coming to GFM, right?
> ;-)

He'll have to bring the kids, now.


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Re: Unemployed

[Kostas Kavoussanakis]

On Fri, 19 Jan 2007, Bob Shell wrote:

> Anyone who stays home and takes care of kids is not unemployed!

My experience says he is a hero.

My hat off to you Scott. I hope you enjoy your new occupation.

Kostas

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RE: It Arrived!

[Tim Øsleby]

Yes, it has been. About 250 km from here. 

>From the top of my head it is about 700 tons of oil. That's not a lot, but
it has leaked near one of our important bird reservations. The weather has
been bad in the area. So the high tech ship that should take care of it was
not able to do the job. 

At the moment nobody knows the consequences. All we know is that some birds
are hurt badly, but we have no idea how many. Looking at the pictures of the
area makes me sad. 

I have good news too. We have about two inches of snow outside, and the
light is not bad. I'm at work now, and will be till the light is gone, but
guess what I'm doing tomorrow. 
First I'm going to make some wide angle shots of my house, and then I'm
going to my Birdland. If I'm lucky I will be able to shoot some birds I
haven't shot yet. :-)


Tim
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mike
wilson
Sent: 18. januar 2007 22:26
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Subject: Re: It Arrived!

Tim Øsleby wrote:

> I am borrowing this lens for a week. Unfortunately the light is no good,
so
> I haven't really tested it, so all I can comment on is the handling. 
> 
> So far, it seems a gem of a lens. It is lighter than what I expected, and
> the focus clutch is very nice. The manual focus feel is all right. I
> definitely feel some LBA coming ;-)
> 
I see there has been a major oil spill in your area.  Hope it dissipates 
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Re: Unemployed

[Stephen Moore]

Scott Loveless wrote:
> I quit my job.  Christie is going to start working full-time and I'm
> going to stay home with the girls.  After crunching the numbers a bit,
> we found that we'd be better off financially, plus I'll be home every
> evening (first time in four years).  So yeah, I'm gonna be a
> stay-at-home-dad.  

Best of luck with it!

And in a weird, small-world coincidence, I just added a new hire to
the computer network where I work, specifically in the warehouse.
His name is also Scott Loveless...

Regards,
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Re: Unemployed

[Norm Baugher]

I did that for two years, loved itgreat decision!
Norm

Scott Loveless wrote:
> Christie asked me yesterday if I was going to tell you guys about
> this.  Since I spend more time reading the list than actually talking
> to my real family I figured I would.
>
> I quit my job.  Christie is going to start working full-time and I'm
> going to stay home with the girls.  After crunching the numbers a bit,
> we found that we'd be better off financially, plus I'll be home every
> evening (first time in four years).  So yeah, I'm gonna be a
> stay-at-home-dad.  I've read that "Mr. Mom" isn't received well by
> most stay-at-home-dads, but I don't care if anyone calls me that.
> I've been called worse and gotten over it rather quickly.
>
> Brace yourselves.  I'm sure there are lots and lots of photos of my
> kids coming to the list very, very soon.  And if you're anything like
> me, there's nothing you like better than looking at photos of other
> people's kids.  :)
>
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Re: Unemployed

[Kostas Kavoussanakis]

On Fri, 19 Jan 2007, DagT wrote:

> Many women, however, told my wife that she was a bad mother for 
> leaving her kids...

I have a great idea: I will do the same (or just announce so) and then 
sieve off above idiots.

Kostas

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Re: I toot just toot won toot toot !?

[Rick Womer]

Congratulations!  The photo is very nice, too.

My son has an Optio W20, and likes it a lot.  Very
sharp, remarkably flare-resistant lens, build quality
just shy of a hockey puck.  The LCD could be easier to
see in sunlight, though, and there is no viewfinder.

Overall, he's -very- happy with it.  

Rick

--- F Mckenty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Horn blowers anomalous would like to introduce it's
> new member:
> sir Francis Pentaxshooter Proudfoot Mckenty!
> 
> I just received a call from the assistant editor of
> Pacific Yachting
> magazine informing me that I had just won first
> place in their annual
> photo contest. I completely lost it when I was on
> the phone and started
> yelling "I Won! I Won! at my office mates (which the
> lady from Pacific
> Yachting found rather amusing).
> The photo (
> http://www.islandlight.ca/showphoto.php?image_id=211
> ) was,
> in my opinion, the worst of the three that I
> entered, but hey, the prize
> is a  Optio W20  so
> I'm not going to
> complain. Our decks don't always stay as dry as it
> is in that photo so
> having a water proof camera will make for many more
> and better photo
> opportunities. Sorry to bother you with my little
> bragging session but
> I'm a little excited (this is the first photo
> contest I've won and also
> the largest one I've ever entered).
> Any one on the list have one of these things? Are
> they good?
> 
> By buy bye,
> Francis
> 
> www.islandlight.ca
> 
> 
> PS.
> That photo was one of the first (meaning in the fist
> two hundred) shots
> taken with my DS.
> 
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Re: Hello! (introduction)

[frank theriault]

On 1/18/07, Mike Dausin (PDML) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for the warm welcome!
>
> I'm not so sure about the list of people that are not to be listened to
> though.  It's already clear that the statement 'We're known for
> enablement' was truly spoken from the heart! :)
>
> Thanks again!


Actually, while you shouldn't normally believe anything Cotty says,
he's quite right when he says to ignore me.  I'm usually wrong.

cheers,
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Re: PESO: Downtown LA

[Rick Womer]

Thanks, Boris and Bruce, for your comments!

Boris, I see what you mean.  I gave this scene a
thorough "photo-massage", and the shots that included
the left leg of the structure had excessive distortion
in the building.  I thought this was the best of the
lot.

If they'd just built the plaza about 10m bigger, I
could have had the perfect composition!

Rick

--- Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Rick,
> 
> Rick Womer wrote:
> > Hence this shot, with the art unobstructed by
> humans:
> > 
> >
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5465563
> > 
> > ist D, FA 10-17 fisheye, ISO 400, f/8 @ 1/1000,
> RAW,
> > minor adjustments in ACR and PE4.
> > 
> > Comments invited!
> > 
> > Rick
> 
> This is really good though somewhat incomplete to my
> eye. I think that 
> if you included the leftmost "leg" of this red
> construction, it would 
> more to my taste ;-). But then again it was you and
> not me shooting.
> 
> Well done.
> 
> Boris
> 
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RE: Hello! (introduction)

[Tim Øsleby]

Cottys body may have his faults, but I wouldn't go as far as calling him a
canon.


Tim
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mike
wilson
Sent: 19. januar 2007 09:44
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Subject: Re: Hello! (introduction)

> From: Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/01/19 Fri AM 04:33:37 GMT
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: Re: Hello! (introduction)
> 
> Hmm, you got me going to dictionary.com.  When the word is plural, then 
> it can refer to underwear, but when its not, like "unmentionable acts", 
> then its just like unspeakable.
> 
> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/unmentionable
> 
> Interesting
> 
> In any event, we should form a lens rescue group to save those kidnapped 
> lenses from Cotty and free them from his unspeakable dungeon of torture. 
>   Esp that A* 85 1.4!!!

You've got it the wrong way round.  He's actually educating his Canon body.


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Re: Hello! (introduction)

[Boris Liberman]

Fascinating... I did not see (really I did not) that message from "on 
behalf of Cotty"...

Well, at least there is only one Boris on this list ;-).

Boris


Tim Øsleby wrote:
> Hi Mike. Welcome onboard. If you like kill filing people, then you have come
> to the right place ;-)
> 
> Come on Cotty, what is Boris doing at the list? I lie much better than him
> ;-)
> 
> 
> Tim
> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Cotty
> Sent: 18. januar 2007 20:27
> To: pentax list
> Subject: Re: Hello! (introduction)
> 
> On 18/1/07, Mike Dausin (PDML), discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> Hello, I've been lurking on the list for a week or two and thought it 
>> was about time I introduce myself. (I actually sent a message once 
>> already, but it doesn't look like it made it.  So forgive me if you get 
>> this message twice)
> 
> Hi Mike, Cotty from the UK here. Pull up a stool.
> 
> Don't believe anything Frank, Mark, Bill, Paul, several Johns, a couple
> of Pauls, and a Boris say.
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Re: Peso: Nora and Lily

[Bruce Dayton]

Ann, so sorry to hear of your friend's passing.  My heart goes out to
you.  The shot you have presented is quite wonderful and is a very
fitting tribute.

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Thursday, January 18, 2007, 1:18:35 PM, you wrote:

as> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5471914


as> I've been pretty much away -
as> My friend Nora died on January 11th at 89 -
as> We had been friends for  over 40 years.  
as> NOt unexpected, but sad for the survivors, nonetheless.

as> She was sent off in royal style, in a very touching fashion.
as> Her kids asked me to take photos of the proceedings, the
as> party celebrating her, the burial and the interior of the house
as> before things were taken down and stored or sold or passed on
as> to children, grand children and great grand children... not that I
as> had not already taken many pictures there - there were specific
as> things that were especially treasured they wanted to remember as
as> she had arranged them.

as> She would have preferred scattered ashes to burial, but these things
as> are for those left behind and she tacitly consented.  

as> As it happens, the cemetery is the very one which Nora took me to
as> in 1978 to point out the "No Permanent Planting" sign  that is in my book.
as> Alas, it has been replaced with "No dogs allowed in Cemetery".

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Re: PESO: Downtown LA

[pnstenquist]

I like the pic. A good use of the fisheye. I think I have a shot of the same 
sculpture. I'll have to take a look.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Thanks, Boris and Bruce, for your comments!
> 
> Boris, I see what you mean.  I gave this scene a
> thorough "photo-massage", and the shots that included
> the left leg of the structure had excessive distortion
> in the building.  I thought this was the best of the
> lot.
> 
> If they'd just built the plaza about 10m bigger, I
> could have had the perfect composition!
> 
> Rick
> 
> --- Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Rick,
> > 
> > Rick Womer wrote:
> > > Hence this shot, with the art unobstructed by
> > humans:
> > > 
> > >
> > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5465563
> > > 
> > > ist D, FA 10-17 fisheye, ISO 400, f/8 @ 1/1000,
> > RAW,
> > > minor adjustments in ACR and PE4.
> > > 
> > > Comments invited!
> > > 
> > > Rick
> > 
> > This is really good though somewhat incomplete to my
> > eye. I think that 
> > if you included the leftmost "leg" of this red
> > construction, it would 
> > more to my taste ;-). But then again it was you and
> > not me shooting.
> > 
> > Well done.
> > 
> > Boris
> > 
> > 
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> 
> 
> http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
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Re: Unemployed

[Rick Womer]

Scott,

Wow!

I was actually planning to email you this weekend and
ask if all was well, because you haven't posted many
photos lately.  I'm looking forward to your new
shooting.

The kind of public-contact job you had is very wearing
(I've had them, too).  Have fun with your new job!

I sure hope you're still coming to GFM!

Rick

--- Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Christie asked me yesterday if I was going to tell
> you guys about
> this.  Since I spend more time reading the list than
> actually talking
> to my real family I figured I would.
> 
> I quit my job.  Christie is going to start working
> full-time and I'm
> going to stay home with the girls.  After crunching
> the numbers a bit,
> we found that we'd be better off financially, plus
> I'll be home every
> evening (first time in four years).  So yeah, I'm
> gonna be a
> stay-at-home-dad.  I've read that "Mr. Mom" isn't
> received well by
> most stay-at-home-dads, but I don't care if anyone
> calls me that.
> I've been called worse and gotten over it rather
> quickly.
> 
> Brace yourselves.  I'm sure there are lots and lots
> of photos of my
> kids coming to the list very, very soon.  And if
> you're anything like
> me, there's nothing you like better than looking at
> photos of other
> people's kids.  :)
> 
> -- 
> Scott (Mr. Mom) Loveless
> http://www.twosixteen.com
> Shoot more film!
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RE: Unemployed

[Tim Øsleby]

You had me worrying when I saw the subject ;-)
Good move Scott. 


Tim
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Subject: Unemployed

Christie asked me yesterday if I was going to tell you guys about
this.  Since I spend more time reading the list than actually talking
to my real family I figured I would.

I quit my job.  Christie is going to start working full-time and I'm
going to stay home with the girls.  After crunching the numbers a bit,
we found that we'd be better off financially, plus I'll be home every
evening (first time in four years).  So yeah, I'm gonna be a
stay-at-home-dad.  I've read that "Mr. Mom" isn't received well by
most stay-at-home-dads, but I don't care if anyone calls me that.
I've been called worse and gotten over it rather quickly.

Brace yourselves.  I'm sure there are lots and lots of photos of my
kids coming to the list very, very soon.  And if you're anything like
me, there's nothing you like better than looking at photos of other
people's kids.  :)

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Re: Unemployed

[Norm Baugher]

Remind me to tell you my most humorous Mr. Mom story at GFM...
Norm

Scott Loveless wrote:
> Christie asked me yesterday if I was going to tell you guys about
> this.  Since I spend more time reading the list than actually talking
> to my real family I figured I would.
>
> I quit my job.  Christie is going to start working full-time and I'm
> going to stay home with the girls.  After crunching the numbers a bit,
> we found that we'd be better off financially, plus I'll be home every
> evening (first time in four years).  So yeah, I'm gonna be a
> stay-at-home-dad.  I've read that "Mr. Mom" isn't received well by
> most stay-at-home-dads, but I don't care if anyone calls me that.
> I've been called worse and gotten over it rather quickly.
>
> Brace yourselves.  I'm sure there are lots and lots of photos of my
> kids coming to the list very, very soon.  And if you're anything like
> me, there's nothing you like better than looking at photos of other
> people's kids.  :)
>
>   

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Re: I toot just toot won toot toot !?

[Bruce Dayton]

Congrats!  Nice shot, BTW.

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Thursday, January 18, 2007, 10:05:32 PM, you wrote:

FM> Horn blowers anomalous would like to introduce it's new member:
FM> sir Francis Pentaxshooter Proudfoot Mckenty!

FM> I just received a call from the assistant editor of Pacific Yachting
FM> magazine informing me that I had just won first place in their annual
FM> photo contest. I completely lost it when I was on the phone and started
FM> yelling "I Won! I Won! at my office mates (which the lady from Pacific
FM> Yachting found rather amusing).
FM> The photo (
FM> http://www.islandlight.ca/showphoto.php?image_id=211 ) was,
FM> in my opinion, the worst of the three that I entered, but hey, the prize
FM> is a  Optio W20  so I'm not going to
FM> complain. Our decks don't always stay as dry as it is in that photo so
FM> having a water proof camera will make for many more and better photo
FM> opportunities. Sorry to bother you with my little bragging session but
FM> I'm a little excited (this is the first photo contest I've won and also
FM> the largest one I've ever entered).
FM> Any one on the list have one of these things? Are they good?

FM> By buy bye,
FM> Francis

FM> www.islandlight.ca


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Re: 21 limited vs 16-45 f4

[Bruce Dayton]

As one who shoots weddings and portraits regularly, I have to caution
on too wide a shooting.  Although the prime is probably better
corrected for linear distortion, you have to be cautious about
shooting too close with too wide a lens.  The reason is that a
rectilinear lens distorts in a different fashion than a fisheye.  All
the lines are straight, but the closer to the outside edges, the
objects get squished and fatter looking.  The net result is that the
people on the outside edge will look short and fat (comparatively).
This can be really bad if they really are a little short or fat.

I think for the DSLR, around 24mm is about as wide as you would want
to shoot.  Right now, there is no limited lens in that focal length.
Your choices are FA*24/2, A 24/2.8 or K24/2.8.  From my experience and
what I have seen, I would lean towards the A or K 24/2.8.

Hope this helps.  You can take your DA 16-45 (great lens, BTW) and do
a little test by shooting closer subjects around 20mm and observing
them in the center outside edges.  You will see that they have been
squished to keep the lines straighter.  That is the real problem
shooting bigger groups - they tend to fill the image and start to
exhibit that kind of distortion.

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Friday, January 19, 2007, 12:53:58 AM, you wrote:


BD> Would anyone who has both of these care to comment on whether the 21 limited
BD> is better than the 16-45 at 21?

BD> I have the 16-45 and am wondering if the 21 would be better for 
photographing
BD> large groups of people.  ( i.e. the mild distortion probably isn't an issue,
BD> but resolution is important )


BD> Brian


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Re: Unemployed

[Brendan MacRae]

> 
> Anyone who stays home and takes care of kids is not
> unemployed!
> 
> Bob
> 

I was going to say the same thing!

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Re: K10D pre-release firmware 1.10 now wireless flash

[P. J. Alling]

Apparently not.

Feroze wrote:
> Is there a way to save your settings so that after the update you can 
> restore it?
>
> Feroze
>
> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>   
>> On Jan 18, 2007, at 4:18 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> Do believe I'll wait for the "real" release by Pentax, but...
>>> will the download/installation process be simply stated and clearly
>>> explained. After downloading, I have the feeling that I'll not have  
>>> the
>>> slightest idea what to do to load it to my K10D? I do know where the
>>> USB cord is but no idea as to the process.
>>> I love to fret.
>>> 
>>>   
>> Stop fretting.  ]'-)
>>
>> All of these firmware updates, on every camera I've owned to date,  
>> install the same way:
>>
>> ... I use a card reader to manipulate the files on the card, I don't  
>> the camera into the computer ...
>>
>> - Format a storage card (I always format in the camera).
>> - Unpack the download.
>> - Copy the firmware binary file to the root directory of the storage.
>> - Make sure your camera has a fully charged set of batteries or  
>> battery in it.
>> - With the camera off, insert the card and close the card door.
>> - Turn the camera on while holding down the Menu button (Pentax  
>> specific).
>>
>> The camera will auto-load the firmware binary and present information  
>> on the screen instructing you how to proceed to do the install. Once  
>> it's done ...
>>
>> - shut off the camera
>> - remove the storage card
>> - delete the firmware binary from the card
>> - put the card back into the camera, turn it on, and format the card  
>> again.
>>
>> You're ready to start using the camera with the new firmware. If you  
>> made various configuration settings, they are often erased and the  
>> camera set to its defaults, so you'll have to re-set it the way you  
>> want it.
>>
>> I always wait to obtain the FW updates directly from Pentax' website.
>>
>> G
>>
>>
>>
>>   
>> 
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Re: 21 limited vs 16-45 f4

[Kostas Kavoussanakis]

On Fri, 19 Jan 2007, Bruce Dayton wrote:

> As one who shoots weddings and portraits regularly, I have to caution
> on too wide a shooting.  Although the prime is probably better
> corrected for linear distortion, you have to be cautious about
> shooting too close with too wide a lens.  The reason is that a
> rectilinear lens distorts in a different fashion than a fisheye.  All
> the lines are straight, but the closer to the outside edges, the
> objects get squished and fatter looking.  The net result is that the
> people on the outside edge will look short and fat (comparatively).
> This can be really bad if they really are a little short or fat.
>
> I think for the DSLR, around 24mm is about as wide as you would want
> to shoot.

Interesting. Are you saying that a 28/30/31 fattens outsides edges on 
a 35mm? I have sure seen it on 24.

Kostas

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Re: 21 limited vs 16-45 f4

[Joseph Tainter]

I can offer a roundabout comparison:

I have tested the FA 20 F2.8 against the DA 16-45 set to 20 mm. The test 
was for sharpness, with the subject a mud-brick wall. The FA 20 
definitely wins.

I have tested the FA 20 agains the DA 21. Same test for sharpness. They 
are very, very close. I call it a draw.

Therefore I would be very confident that the DA 21 is sharper than the 
DA 16-45 at 21 mm.

Jow

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Re: PESO - Couple of recent ones

[Bruce Dayton]

I appreciate your candor, Boris.  I guess I have to ask, how, most
other photographers also develop a more common motif, that no one
comments on getting used to them?  Godfrey, Juan, Kenneth and others
all shoot mostly similar types of scenes - is it because nature is
more boring than people or what?  I'm more curious here than defensive
- just trying to figure it out.

Thanks,

Bruce



Friday, January 19, 2007, 5:15:20 AM, you wrote:

BL> Bruce, I like the bridge shot the most. Is it Golden Gate?

BL> The rest is good, but somehow I am starting to get used to your work in
BL> a certain way. The bridge shot is nice deviation from your most common
BL> motif of calm tranquil nature.

BL> Boris



BL> Bruce Dayton wrote:
>> No titles, hopefully that won't detract too much.
>> 
>> 
>> Pentax K10D, DA 16-45/4, Handheld
>> ISO 100, 1/45 sec @ f/6.7
>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4243.htm
>> 
>> 
>> Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, Handheld
>> ISO 400, 1/350 sec @ f/8
>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3477.htm
>> 
>> 
>> Pentax K10D, DA 16-45/4, Handheld
>> ISO 200, 1/250 sec @ f/9.5
>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4244.htm
>> 
>> 
>> Pentax K10D, A 70-210/4, Handheld
>> ISO 200, 1/180 sec @ f/6.7
>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4233.htm
>> 
>> Comments welcome
>> 





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Re: PESO: More McNaught from the 'burbs

[Brendan MacRae]

Nice one, Dave. One of the best I've seen of that
snowball on the net so far!

-Brendan
--- David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> G'day All,
> 
> 2 PESO's for the price of 1.
> 
> The first is uncropped, the second had about 1/8th
> of the RHS cropped (~200kb):
> 
> 
> 
> Any and all comments welcomed.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dave
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Don't get soaked.  Take a quick peak at the forecast
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http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather

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Re: PESO: More McNaught from the 'burbs

[Bruce Dayton]

First is the best comet shot I have seen thus far.  Quite nice in
fact.

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Friday, January 19, 2007, 5:58:05 AM, you wrote:

DS> G'day All,

DS> 2 PESO's for the price of 1.

DS> The first is uncropped, the second had about 1/8th of the RHS cropped 
(~200kb):

DS> 

DS> Any and all comments welcomed.


DS> Cheers,

DS> Dave




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RE: PESO: More McNaught from the 'burbs

[Tom C]

The first one is extremely nice.  Excellent!

Are you gonna try and get out of the city so you have a great natural 
horizon and foreground for a shot like the 2nd?



Tom C.



>From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>Subject: PESO: More McNaught from the 'burbs
>Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 22:58:05 +0900
>
>G'day All,
>
>2 PESO's for the price of 1.
>
>The first is uncropped, the second had about 1/8th of the RHS cropped 
>(~200kb):
>
>
>
>Any and all comments welcomed.
>
>
>Cheers,
>
>Dave
>
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RE: I toot just toot won toot toot !?

[Tim Øsleby]

You are the man ;-)


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of F
Mckenty
Sent: 19. januar 2007 07:06
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: I toot just toot won toot toot !?

Horn blowers anomalous would like to introduce it's new member:
sir Francis Pentaxshooter Proudfoot Mckenty!

I just received a call from the assistant editor of Pacific Yachting
magazine informing me that I had just won first place in their annual
photo contest. I completely lost it when I was on the phone and started
yelling "I Won! I Won! at my office mates (which the lady from Pacific
Yachting found rather amusing).
The photo ( http://www.islandlight.ca/showphoto.php?image_id=211 ) was,
in my opinion, the worst of the three that I entered, but hey, the prize
is a  Optio W20  so I'm not going to
complain. Our decks don't always stay as dry as it is in that photo so
having a water proof camera will make for many more and better photo
opportunities. Sorry to bother you with my little bragging session but
I'm a little excited (this is the first photo contest I've won and also
the largest one I've ever entered).
Any one on the list have one of these things? Are they good?

By buy bye,
Francis

www.islandlight.ca


PS.
That photo was one of the first (meaning in the fist two hundred) shots
taken with my DS.


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Re: MARK! A warning about mail filtering

[Tom C]

Mark!

>It's an imperfect world.

from William Robb



Tom C.


>From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 08:22:09 -0600
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Boris Liberman" Subject: A warning about mail filtering
>
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > Ladies and gentlemen, as of now it happened several times: the e-mail I
> > sent out or I received from fellow PDMLers ended up either in my spam
> > folder or marked as spam by GMail filtering. It did not happen too many
> > times, but it indeed took place.
>
>It's an imperfect world.
>Sometimes the problem lies with server side spam filtering, which is a
>little more difficult to control.
>
>William Robb
>
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