PESO - Dusk
Hi http://www.pbase.com/kiwibiologist/image/77040452 another from the same beach as Dog's on Holiday. Dusk was falling fast but we lingered long enough for me to catch this moment - sea spray, big waves, black sand, and this pair on their way home. Rendered in B W using lightroom - maybe a Tad dark, but this is how it looked to me - getting pretty dark. Love the SR on the 10D - 1/8s at 90mm! Comments welcome Alastair P.S. I know people don't usually have time to look at galleries but if you like, you can see more from the series at http://picasaweb.google.com/kiwibiologist/ToraBeachEaster2007 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO:sunrise over lake Zurich (surreal HDR)
georgeous! On 4/12/07, Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A lovely sunrise over lake Zurich got me a (natural) panorama made out of 5 photos. I converted another raw single photo from the same series using Photomatix to a somehow surreal scene. It would have been impossible for me to get a natural look with that image in Photomatix as a HDR as far as my knowledge of that software goes... I wonder if you like/dislike this artificial kind of look here. Please enjoy: http://mypage.bluewin.ch/solicom/sunrisehdr.jpg (172 KB) K10D, Pentax A24mm, ISO 100, 1/60 F4 Comments welcome Greetings Markus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Columns in Black and White
I think I would prefer the shot to be composed to have the roof not cropped at the top of the frame - it would look more pleasing if the top diagonal was more in balance with the bottom one in my opinion. But a nice BW nevertheless Alastair On 4/12/07, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike, Fernando, Norm, Ken Thanks for the comments - much appreciated. Ken - I think you're right about cropping the shadow on the bottom of the image. Cropped version is here: http://picasaweb.google.com/supera1000/PESO/photo?authkey=X7kmHo_6wyc#5052396489288120690 http://tinyurl.com/343njw Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia I haven't done a lot of black and white conversion but this one turned out quite well (I think) - certainly a lot better than the original colour version. Comments, plaudits, raspberries all accepted with thanks. http://picasaweb.google.com/supera1000/PESO/photo?authkey=X7kmHo_6wyc#5051589714743686082 http://tinyurl.com/27zfax -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Hi guys, just popping in for news and K10D obs
Good thing his father didn't have the Summicron. Paul On Apr 11, 2007, at 10:37 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: On 12/04/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dunno. If I ever had a child, naming him/her Esse Uu See after the Hasselblad SWC might get me a punch in the nose when he/she reached their majority. I have a friend named Elmar (after the Leica lens), he seems pretty well balanced and not at all angry ;-) -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - ouch
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/04/12 Thu AM 12:10:49 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT - ouch mike wilson wrote: William Robb wrote: From: Rick Womer Indeed. Cross them off the Liszt. Bach to your cave, Womer. You don't have a good Handel on this stuff. I don't know. It's probably only good for Chopin up now, anyway. I'm sure the scales of justice will insure the responsible parties end up behind bars. After which they'll throw away the key. Man, your script is as heavy as a rock. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Strap Lugs on K10D
Hi Cotty, On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 22:57:32 +0100, Cotty wrote: I used a short loop of an old strap (much like Cotty I guess :-) plus some non-scratching 'carabine' aluminium hooks: http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?list=19 Sew those mothers on! Looks like it might come unhooked in a light breeze!! Thanks for caring, but don't worry, but they ARE sewed on :-) I actually had a shoemaker sew that for me using extra strong material. The plastic parts saying 'Pentax' on them are just for looks ;-) Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
OT - ouch
Hello All Bob yeah but look at the side of the truck in the last pic - they are supposed to be *specialist* piano movers!! that one sure got moved in a special way. They should have hired Laurel and Hardy. Bob Sure, but unfortunately the number of these pianos really limited while the number of idiots labelling themselves as *specialists* is countless... and increasing..:) No fun for me, sorry...:( -- Best regards, Fiso mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: OT - ouch
From: Rod Connan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/04/12 Thu AM 02:14:58 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT - ouch I was simply amazed that they thought they could lower the hydraulic tray with part of the piano still over the floor of the moving van. If they had manoeuvred the piano to be facing even say 45 degrees from the position they used it would have been practical as the trolley would have still remained on the tray and the piano would have cleared the floor. If I had been there when the second pic was taken I would have just walked away - did he think that he could push that trolley under the piano?? OR - maybe the guy balancing the piano walked over to the tray controls to re-lift the tray to correct the initial c*ck-up? Just so sad to see 'Specialists' getting it so stupidly wrong. Rod Indeed. There's just been a series on UK TV about specialist moving. Things like buildings and even the locos that George Sinos documented here. Ever seen a runaway building? We'll just hold it with these 'dozers. Oh, the 'dozers are moving now. How about a loco that might get swallowed up because the movers can't be bothered to look for the fuel storage tanks that might still be there? Put these metal plates down to spread (the now increased) weight. Power cables in the way of the railway station building you are carting across town? Just get a guy to sit on the (metal) roof and pole them over. No need to switch off. Tastes just like chicken. I can't believe they had any insurance. They certainly had spurs. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cotty Click on the 'In Pictures' link http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/6541457.stm h boy. -- Cheers, Cotty -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - ouch
At 03:34 PM 12/04/2007, Fiso_PENTAX wrote: Hello All Bob yeah but look at the side of the truck in the last pic - they are supposed to be *specialist* piano movers!! that one sure got moved in a special way. They should have hired Laurel and Hardy. Bob Sure, but unfortunately the number of these pianos really limited while the number of idiots labelling themselves as *specialists* is countless... and increasing..:) No fun for me, sorry...:( From the tone of the article the owners were hard pressed for money, so the movers were probably the cheapest around. Then again they may not have been. We don't know all the details. Also the owners shouldn't have been stupid only insured it for the price they paid. Sometimes shit happens no matter how careful you are. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Hi guys, just popping in for news and K10D obs
What about Shneider-Kreuznach ? =D 2007/4/11, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Good thing his father didn't have the Summicron. Paul On Apr 11, 2007, at 10:37 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: On 12/04/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dunno. If I ever had a child, naming him/her Esse Uu See after the Hasselblad SWC might get me a punch in the nose when he/she reached their majority. I have a friend named Elmar (after the Leica lens), he seems pretty well balanced and not at all angry ;-) -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - ouch
This company is based in Chiswick, where I used to live, and I hired them to move a slightly less expensive piano a few years ago. No problem at all. The interesting thing is whether this will damage their reputation, or bring them more business. The publicity (BBC, national newspapaers, etc) was pretty cheap at only 25,000 pounds. They'll probably do pretty well out of it, on a lightning doesn't strike twice basis. John On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 08:34:34 +0100, Fiso_PENTAX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All Bob yeah but look at the side of the truck in the last pic - they are supposed to be *specialist* piano movers!! that one sure got moved in a special way. They should have hired Laurel and Hardy. Bob Sure, but unfortunately the number of these pianos really limited while the number of idiots labelling themselves as *specialists* is countless... and increasing..:) No fun for me, sorry...:( -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Columns in Black and White
Yes, I see what you mean. I'll have another go at photographing this building next time I'm in Sydney. Thanks for commenting. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia Quoting Alastair Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think I would prefer the shot to be composed to have the roof not cropped at the top of the frame - it would look more pleasing if the top diagonal was more in balance with the bottom one in my opinion. But a nice BW nevertheless Alastair -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - ouch
mike wilson wrote: From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] mike wilson wrote: William Robb wrote: From: Rick Womer Indeed. Cross them off the Liszt. Bach to your cave, Womer. You don't have a good Handel on this stuff. I don't know. It's probably only good for Chopin up now, anyway. I'm sure the scales of justice will insure the responsible parties end up behind bars. After which they'll throw away the key. Man, your script is as heavy as a rock. I blame it on my staff. They're none too sharp and sometimes their efforts fall flat. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - ouch
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/04/12 Thu PM 12:46:27 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT - ouch mike wilson wrote: From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] mike wilson wrote: William Robb wrote: From: Rick Womer Indeed. Cross them off the Liszt. Bach to your cave, Womer. You don't have a good Handel on this stuff. I don't know. It's probably only good for Chopin up now, anyway. I'm sure the scales of justice will insure the responsible parties end up behind bars. After which they'll throw away the key. Man, your script is as heavy as a rock. I blame it on my staff. They're none too sharp and sometimes their efforts fall flat. Staff = clef stick? - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re:JIM KING please read this! - I need help and the understanding from the list
Markus Maurer wrote on Wed, 11 Apr 2007 19:45:52 -0700 Sorry PDML members! I'm really unable to reach Jim King privately since my mails get bounced back with an undefined network error: Markus - Your email message came through this time. No need to apologize for the ones I didn't receive - I guess the gremlins of the Internet ate them! As I advised by return email, I'm sorry we can't do a deal on this broken lens but if you ever decide to sell your good copy (or come across another one for sale) please let me know - thanks! Regards, Jim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
OT: So It Goes
Kurt Vonnegut has passed. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/books/12vonnegut.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Missed it by THAT much!
A local dude was selling his old film kit: Pentax ZX-5 Tamron 28-200 zoom Pentax FA 20mm f/2.8 ..for $100. I was #2 to respond. Someone got a heck of a deal, but sadly it wasn't quite ME. :-( I didn't really want or need the body or the zoom, but a 20mm f2.8 would have been handy. And that was a good price! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org I am riding in the MS-TRAM this summer. Please consider sponsoring me! http://charles.robinsontwins.org/mstram.htm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: So It Goes
On 12/4/07, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: Kurt Vonnegut has passed. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/books/12vonnegut.html A milestone! Sad news indeed. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: So It Goes
A sad day for everyone really... On 4/12/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kurt Vonnegut has passed. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/books/12vonnegut.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Manual focus solution for istD series, Split image RF screen
FYI, Just got this split image RF screen for my istDS ( should work in any of the istD series cameras ) : http://preview.tinyurl.com/yu25dy works fine, nice clear split image and a large microprism surround. I dont think you can get this from Pentax (yet?). Works easily to F4 on any lens I tried and still very usable to F5.6 on some lenses. Focus seems as accurate as the original screen based on my tests. Recommended, and it's cheap for the vast improvement it makes IMHO. (P.S. dont forget to specify what camera you need it for when you pay, he makes them for a whole bunch of different model DSLRS.) jco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Tree Screen
I like it. Nice one. Cheers, Dave On 4/13/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another from Yosemite. A different way to look at Big Rocks. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/treescreen.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO - Tree Screen
Another from Yosemite. A different way to look at Big Rocks. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/treescreen.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: So It Goes
Paul Stenquist wrote: Kurt Vonnegut has passed. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/books/12vonnegut.html Here ya go, Paul: http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=109 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO:Samples from my first commercial slideshow
Nice pictures you have there Markus. I remember staying in Zurich for 8 hours waiting for a Swiss-Air flight when we went to Thailand. I couldn't really see too much of the city because I met my brother there, who traveled from France to meet me (and his swiss girlfriend..) . I do remember the train station and a river that cross the city. Nice city, expensive though. Congrats for the commercial work. On 4/11/07, Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Pentaxians I'm quite proud to just have finished my first commercial work in form of a slideshow on DVD made of 150 photos with my old Pentax film cameras and lenses equipment and about 20% photos are made with the K10D. The DVD contains a film about all the Switzerland tours my friend Gabriela offers beside my slideshow and will be presented to all her international guests during the bus travels. I show you 3 samples made with the K10D of typical tourist attractions in the city of Zurich and before you ask, the scenes have to be colorful and quite cliché too. I used a B+W polarizer for the deep blue sky and mostly the Pentax-F 50mm 1.7 and the M 28mm 3.5 and the 18-55mm Kit lens here. I will produce a slideshow again for every tour I visit in the next weeks as a side product of my panorama calendar 2008, the first destination will be the Rhine falls and later Mt. Rigi http://www.swisswebcams.ch/deutsch/webcam_rigi_kulm_(6410_rigi_kulm)_101060 8984.html. Zurich city samples with the K10D: http://www.mypage.bluewin.ch/solicom/zhsample1.jpg http://www.mypage.bluewin.ch/solicom/zhsample2.jpg http://www.mypage.bluewin.ch/solicom/zhsample3.jpg I hope you can still enjoy photos from Zurich :-) Greetings Markus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Tree Screen
Very nice, I like it Toine On 4/12/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another from Yosemite. A different way to look at Big Rocks. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/treescreen.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO - Tree Screen
Cool shot, aka. Your artistic sensibilities are starting to merge nicely with photographic technology. Pretty soon Bill Robb will suggest that you get a camera better suited to your vision ;-)) Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A different way to look at Big Rocks. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/treescreen.htm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
The mysterious ways of marketing
I just received a marketing mail. It's a about a book, the title translates to something like Practical digital photography. I know it is a good book because I already have the first edition. A few months after I bought it, a new revised much improved edition came. Smart as I am I skipped that, and I was right. Now it is improved even more in a third edition. Ok. That's the background. The smart marketing people are selling the book v3.0 with the words This book does not expire. It goes on, because this book is about basic photography and not about the latest fashion of equipment. Yeah, right. I'll have one of those, not ;-) Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Tree Screen
In a message dated 4/12/2007 8:09:59 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I like it. Nice one. Cheers, Dave = Thanks, Dave. Marnie aka Doe = On 4/13/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another from Yosemite. A different way to look at Big Rocks. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/treescreen.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: So It Goes
On 12/4/07, Doug Brewer, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=109 Beautiful, Doug. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Tree Screen
I like this one. You have taken a unique approach here and have executed it very well. Paul On Apr 12, 2007, at 11:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another from Yosemite. A different way to look at Big Rocks. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/treescreen.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) ** See what's free at http:// www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: So It Goes
Excellent tribute. Beautifully written. I too was launched on a somewhat directionless life voyage by Vonnegut-think. I wonder how many wonderful sites I might have missed had I not drifted haphazardly along. Paul Paul On Apr 12, 2007, at 10:56 AM, Doug Brewer wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: Kurt Vonnegut has passed. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/books/12vonnegut.html Here ya go, Paul: http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=109 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: So It Goes
Ice Nine Publishing ... that's what the Grateful Dead used as their name. My brother (recording engineer and sound producer) tells me that Mr. V was engaged at one of the studios he works with for books on tape readings too, now and then. A toast to his memory and the wonderful ideas and insights he gave us. Godspeed! G On Apr 12, 2007, at 6:47 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Kurt Vonnegut has passed. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/books/12vonnegut.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Tree Screen
On Apr 12, 2007, at 8:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another from Yosemite. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/treescreen.htm I like it a lot as a composition. The tonal balance is a little off, however: the brightness of the rocks in the background overwhelms the feeling of a screen, and some of the middle tones on the trees seem to run together. (At least on my laptop screen... I'll look at it again when I get home on the desktop monitor.) Editing it is a delicate proposition ... Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: So It Goes
Nicely put Doug. Doug Brewer wrote: Here ya go, Paul: http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=109 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Manual focus solution for istD series, Split image RF screen
John, what about metering, notably center weighted and spot? Thanks. On 4/12/07, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI, Just got this split image RF screen for my istDS ( should work in any of the istD series cameras ) : http://preview.tinyurl.com/yu25dy works fine, nice clear split image and a large microprism surround. I dont think you can get this from Pentax (yet?). Works easily to F4 on any lens I tried and still very usable to F5.6 on some lenses. Focus seems as accurate as the original screen based on my tests. Recommended, and it's cheap for the vast improvement it makes IMHO. (P.S. dont forget to specify what camera you need it for when you pay, he makes them for a whole bunch of different model DSLRS.) jco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO - Tree Screen
Quite beautiful! I love it just the way it is. It strikes me as one that you must print and enlarge. I'm trying to think back on the photos you've displayed. This may be my favorite. Tom C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Tree Screen Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 11:04:30 EDT Another from Yosemite. A different way to look at Big Rocks. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/treescreen.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: From a Recent Press Release...
Then again Sparx group seems to have a vested interest in Pentax getting out of the Photography business, in fact any business. They wanted that before Pentax's recent success in the DSLR market and like any group of analysts they hate to be wrong. Sometimes so much so that they ignore results. You should keep in mind that Sparkx Group has no vested interest in the actual survival of any company, (except maybe for themselves), to them its only money, and maximizing return is all they care about. Better for Pentax to be bought by Hoya and dismembered, from their point of view, (which will net them relatively high profits on the sale of their holdings), than continue to survive and pay dividends with only a normal appreciation in value over time. Tom C wrote: The No. 1 shareholder, with a stake of 23.9%, is independent asset management firm Sparx Group Co. (8739). It will be hard for Pentax to survive on its own in five to 10 years' time, Sparx President Shuhei Abe says. I'm not saying the sky is falling. But I also would not be surprised if the recent posturing is not just a way to further up the ante/purchase-price of Pentax. If that threshold is met, Hoya could acquire the most profitable part of the business, while possibly selling off or eliminating the underperforming 2% profit camera-side of the business. Remember, during most acquisitions, mergers, shutdowns, the modus operandi is business as usual until the day an announcement is made. We've seen that in operation already with the way the Samsung partnering was announced, the way the merger was announced, and now the suddenness with the backing away from the deal. Time will tell. Tom C. -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - ouch
Yes and you should be ashamed of yourself. Norm Baugher wrote: Oh jeez, did I start this? Norm Mark Roberts wrote: mike wilson wrote: William Robb wrote: From: Rick Womer Indeed. Cross them off the Liszt. Bach to your cave, Womer. You don't have a good Handel on this stuff. I don't know. It's probably only good for Chopin up now, anyway. I'm sure the scales of justice will insure the responsible parties end up behind bars. After which they'll throw away the key. -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Missed it by THAT much!
Certainly worth it for the lens alone. Ah well, there are other fish in the pond... G On Apr 12, 2007, at 6:50 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: A local dude was selling his old film kit: Pentax ZX-5 Tamron 28-200 zoom Pentax FA 20mm f/2.8 ..for $100. I was #2 to respond. Someone got a heck of a deal, but sadly it wasn't quite ME. :-( I didn't really want or need the body or the zoom, but a 20mm f2.8 would have been handy. And that was a good price! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Waaay OT: International Louie Louie Day
The real lyrics to Louie Louie, (or so I've been lead to believe). Louie, Louie, me gotta go. Louie, Louie, me gotta go. A fine little girl, she wait for me; me catch a ship across the sea. I sailed the ship all alone; I never think I'll make it home Three nights and days we sailed the sea; me think of girl constantly. On the ship, I dream she there; I smell the rose in her hair. Me see Jamaica moon above; It won't be long me see me love. Me take her in my arms and then I tell her I never leave again. Seems like a fairly clean love song. frank theriault wrote: On 4/11/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not at all germane to the list, but something tells me a few of you will get a kick out of this nonetheless. Via the Clan MacAthair mailing list: | Today is a very special day of celebration. | | Today, April 11 is INTERNATIONAL LOUIE LOUIE Day! | snip When I was a kid, it was thought that the incomprehensible mumblings of the lead singer purposely his collective gasp ~dirty lyrics~!! I later heard that we were wrong. But it was pretty cool to believe back when we were like 7 or 8 years old... ;-) cheers, frank -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Tree Screen
Well struck balance between the screening trees and the graduated lighting of the rocks. Trees allow adequate definition of the background, yet retain their identity against the less well lit portion. Nice! Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another from Yosemite. A different way to look at Big Rocks. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/treescreen.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Tree Screen
Well seen executed. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Tree Screen Another from Yosemite. A different way to look at Big Rocks. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/treescreen.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - A Chilly Afternoon
Interesting idea, well captured, but the overall image just isn't gripping enough. It might be better bigger. Russell Kerstetter wrote: http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2959.html There are several types of comments I am looking for: 1) The typical 'good, bad and ugly' comments as well as constructive criticism. 2) Is big enough, or just right? 3) Is it bright enough? Thanks for looking. Russ -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Missed it by THAT much!
Yep $100 was a great price for the 20mm, you could probably have gotten twice that for the Zoom on e-bay. Charles Robinson wrote: A local dude was selling his old film kit: Pentax ZX-5 Tamron 28-200 zoom Pentax FA 20mm f/2.8 ..for $100. I was #2 to respond. Someone got a heck of a deal, but sadly it wasn't quite ME. :-( I didn't really want or need the body or the zoom, but a 20mm f2.8 would have been handy. And that was a good price! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org I am riding in the MS-TRAM this summer. Please consider sponsoring me! http://charles.robinsontwins.org/mstram.htm -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Waaay OT: International Louie Louie Day
No problem with the lyrics as published, but you were never at a frat party where The Kingsmen played... - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] The real lyrics to Louie Louie, (or so I've been lead to believe). [snip] Seems like a fairly clean love song. frank theriault wrote: On 4/11/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not at all germane to the list, but something tells me a few of you will get a kick out of this nonetheless. Via the Clan MacAthair mailing list: | Today is a very special day of celebration. | | Today, April 11 is INTERNATIONAL LOUIE LOUIE Day! | snip When I was a kid, it was thought that the incomprehensible mumblings of the lead singer purposely his collective gasp ~dirty lyrics~!! I later heard that we were wrong. But it was pretty cool to believe back when we were like 7 or 8 years old... ;-) cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Waaay OT: International Louie Louie Day
On 4/12/07, Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No problem with the lyrics as published, but you were never at a frat party where The Kingsmen played... You would be correct. ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: From a Recent Press Release...
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: From a Recent Press Release... Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 13:21:00 -0400 Then again Sparx group seems to have a vested interest in Pentax getting out of the Photography business, in fact any business. They wanted that before Pentax's recent success in the DSLR market and like any group of analysts they hate to be wrong. Sometimes so much so that they ignore results. You should keep in mind that Sparkx Group has no vested interest in the actual survival of any company, (except maybe for themselves), to them its only money, and maximizing return is all they care about. Better for Pentax to be bought by Hoya and dismembered, from their point of view, (which will net them relatively high profits on the sale of their holdings), than continue to survive and pay dividends with only a normal appreciation in value over time. Pentax's recent success in the DSLR market though, has been relatively small. Small overall market share, small profit margin, even though they are turning a profit. It makes it very hard to compete. Yes I know that Sparx and many other investors may have no vested interest in the survival of the company. That's exactly why some of us have been saying for several years that we were worried with regard to survival of the brand. That, and we thought Pentax was making stupid moves in the business (which may have been the only moves they could make, based on cash flow and profitability). It has little to do with Pentax's past history as a leader in the 50's and 60's, the quality of their lenses, or whether we personally like the Pentax brand. Tom C. Tom C wrote: The No. 1 shareholder, with a stake of 23.9%, is independent asset management firm Sparx Group Co. (8739). It will be hard for Pentax to survive on its own in five to 10 years' time, Sparx President Shuhei Abe says. I'm not saying the sky is falling. But I also would not be surprised if the recent posturing is not just a way to further up the ante/purchase-price of Pentax. If that threshold is met, Hoya could acquire the most profitable part of the business, while possibly selling off or eliminating the underperforming 2% profit camera-side of the business. Remember, during most acquisitions, mergers, shutdowns, the modus operandi is business as usual until the day an announcement is made. We've seen that in operation already with the way the Samsung partnering was announced, the way the merger was announced, and now the suddenness with the backing away from the deal. Time will tell. Tom C. -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Q: Pentax FA-J 75-300 ? Sigma 135-400 ?
A friend is looking for decent quality lens with a 300mm tele capability, at least. This is out of the range of my experience in Pentax lenses. Anyone worked with the FA-J75-300? or the Sigma 135-400? I know the Sigma 50-500 has a big following, but it's pricier than he can afford. The FAJ seems very inexpensive ... is it any good? thanks for any comments. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: From a Recent Press Release...
The point is success to Sparx is not necessarily, in fact probably isn't, success to Pentax. In fact in Sparx is better off if Pentax is sold. That makes Sparx's predictions of Pentax's demise suspect. I'm not saying that those predictions are wrong, but I'm considering the source. Tom C wrote: From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: From a Recent Press Release... Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 13:21:00 -0400 Then again Sparx group seems to have a vested interest in Pentax getting out of the Photography business, in fact any business. They wanted that before Pentax's recent success in the DSLR market and like any group of analysts they hate to be wrong. Sometimes so much so that they ignore results. You should keep in mind that Sparkx Group has no vested interest in the actual survival of any company, (except maybe for themselves), to them its only money, and maximizing return is all they care about. Better for Pentax to be bought by Hoya and dismembered, from their point of view, (which will net them relatively high profits on the sale of their holdings), than continue to survive and pay dividends with only a normal appreciation in value over time. Pentax's recent success in the DSLR market though, has been relatively small. Small overall market share, small profit margin, even though they are turning a profit. It makes it very hard to compete. Yes I know that Sparx and many other investors may have no vested interest in the survival of the company. That's exactly why some of us have been saying for several years that we were worried with regard to survival of the brand. That, and we thought Pentax was making stupid moves in the business (which may have been the only moves they could make, based on cash flow and profitability). It has little to do with Pentax's past history as a leader in the 50's and 60's, the quality of their lenses, or whether we personally like the Pentax brand. Tom C. Tom C wrote: The No. 1 shareholder, with a stake of 23.9%, is independent asset management firm Sparx Group Co. (8739). It will be hard for Pentax to survive on its own in five to 10 years' time, Sparx President Shuhei Abe says. I'm not saying the sky is falling. But I also would not be surprised if the recent posturing is not just a way to further up the ante/purchase-price of Pentax. If that threshold is met, Hoya could acquire the most profitable part of the business, while possibly selling off or eliminating the underperforming 2% profit camera-side of the business. Remember, during most acquisitions, mergers, shutdowns, the modus operandi is business as usual until the day an announcement is made. We've seen that in operation already with the way the Samsung partnering was announced, the way the merger was announced, and now the suddenness with the backing away from the deal. Time will tell. Tom C. -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Waaay OT: International Louie Louie Day
No, but I've been to frat parties... Bob Blakely wrote: No problem with the lyrics as published, but you were never at a frat party where The Kingsmen played... - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] The real lyrics to Louie Louie, (or so I've been lead to believe). [snip] Seems like a fairly clean love song. frank theriault wrote: On 4/11/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not at all germane to the list, but something tells me a few of you will get a kick out of this nonetheless. Via the Clan MacAthair mailing list: | Today is a very special day of celebration. | | Today, April 11 is INTERNATIONAL LOUIE LOUIE Day! | snip When I was a kid, it was thought that the incomprehensible mumblings of the lead singer purposely his collective gasp ~dirty lyrics~!! I later heard that we were wrong. But it was pretty cool to believe back when we were like 7 or 8 years old... ;-) cheers, frank -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Tree Screen
On Apr 12, 2007, at 8:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/treescreen.htm Followup: It looks better on my big screen than it did on the laptop, but I still think the middle tones tend to be a little too close together. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Tree Screen
In a message dated 4/12/2007 9:47:19 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Quite beautiful! I love it just the way it is. It strikes me as one that you must print and enlarge. I'm trying to think back on the photos you've displayed. This may be my favorite. Tom C. = Thanks, Tom. Most liked the Joshua Tree too. But I am not going to link to it again until I learn how to do a copyright thingee on the pic. I am updating my web pages and it's why I am not linking to them right now. But I know it's nice when one shows PESOs to do some linkage so others can see older shots. I'll be getting around to it. Glad you liked it. :-) Marnie aka Doe From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Tree Screen Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 11:04:30 EDT Another from Yosemite. A different way to look at Big Rocks. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/treescreen.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Tree Screen
In a message dated 4/12/2007 8:54:57 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Cool shot, aka. Your artistic sensibilities are starting to merge nicely with photographic technology. Pretty soon Bill Robb will suggest that you get a camera better suited to your vision ;-)) Shel Thanks, Shel. I do know, that almost sounds like praise. LOL. Gave me a thrill, anyway. Marnie aka Doe ;-) = [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A different way to look at Big Rocks. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO - Manaus, Brasil
Finally scanned in a couple of pictures I like. This was from my first trip to the Amazon... http://home.earthlink.net/~nbaugher/manaus.htm Norm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Tree Screen
In a message dated 4/12/2007 10:57:45 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Apr 12, 2007, at 8:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/treescreen.htm Followup: It looks better on my big screen than it did on the laptop, but I still think the middle tones tend to be a little too close together. Godfrey I just used shadow/highlights on it to bring out the shadow details, which is a quicker fix and not necessarily the best for tonal gradations. I was aware the rock was light and the trees very dark, and that was a situation I had over and over at Yosemite. When I was there the sky was very clear and bright making the rocks very light and creating exposure problems. I think next time I will know how or learn how to deal with it better. OTOH, I liked the light pink on the rocks in this shot, I think sunset was just starting. So, yes, I partly agree with what you said the first time, sort of, what I understood of it. ;-) What would you suggest? Curves? Or levels? Or both. Thanks for looking, Godfrey. Marnie aka Doe :-) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Pentax Gallery: Uploading problems...?
Hi, After a long spell, I added new(old) stuff to the Pentax Gallery, most were film shots. They were consistent rejected because of lack of EXIF data blah blah blah ... even with the scanned... box ticked. Most of my previous shots that were accepted were film photos--this happening to anyone else? Bong -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Tree Screen
In a message dated 4/12/2007 9:55:47 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well struck balance between the screening trees and the graduated lighting of the rocks. Trees allow adequate definition of the background, yet retain their identity against the less well lit portion. Nice! Jack == Thanks, Jack, that's what I was going for. :-) And thanks to Toine, Paul, and Ken. Marnie aka Doe === --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another from Yosemite. A different way to look at Big Rocks. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/treescreen.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO: Kids playing Soccer
I like this shot. What do you think: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/456765816/ Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.3.0/758 - Release Date: 04/12/2007 11:52 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Q: Pentax FA-J 75-300 ? Sigma 135-400 ?
thanks walt! G On Apr 12, 2007, at 11:28 AM, Walter Hamler wrote: I don't have it anymore, but I once owned the Sigma 70~300 APO Super. The latest Digital version is a little more expensive, but still very affordable. I truly wonder what the diff is compared to the regular version. Anyway, I found it to be a VG to E+ lens, especially when factoring in price. If he isn't a pixel peeper and doesn't make prints bigger than 13x19 he would probably like it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Tree Screen
On Apr 12, 2007, at 11:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just used shadow/highlights on it to bring out the shadow details, which is a quicker fix and not necessarily the best for tonal gradations. I was aware the rock was light and the trees very dark, and that was a situation I had over and over at Yosemite. When I was there the sky was very clear and bright making the rocks very light and creating exposure problems. I think next time I will know how or learn how to deal with it better. OTOH, I liked the light pink on the rocks in this shot, I think sunset was just starting. So, yes, I partly agree with what you said the first time, sort of, what I understood of it. ;-) What would you suggest? Curves? Or levels? Or both. I'd want to pull the highs down a little bit while separating and expanding the tonal contrasts in the trees, bringing them up a notch too. To me, this says a combination of curves adjustment layers and masking is necessary ... I don't think any global editing tool will do the job precisely enough. You wouldn't want to lose the delicate roses and pinks, etc. Given the complexity of the composition, rendering it out to exploit everything you can get from it will take a bit of effort. And yes, I also think it would look best LARGE. :-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Q: Pentax FA-J 75-300 ? Sigma 135-400 ?
I don't have it anymore, but I once owned the Sigma 70~300 APO Super. The latest Digital version is a little more expensive, but still very affordable. I truly wonder what the diff is compared to the regular version. Anyway, I found it to be a VG to E+ lens, especially when factoring in price. If he isn't a pixel peeper and doesn't make prints bigger than 13x19 he would probably like it. Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
See ya later
We are off to the Battlefords for a dawg show. I am showing Jester, the ADHD puppy, Charmi is showing Bella, the lovely Walloon. I will be back on Sunday, depending on how well we do, perhaps earlier than later. Have fun. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Lightroom Query
I downloaded the Beta some time back and basically liked what I saw. However, I could never get it to print decent stuff. I wasn't willing to chase driver problems, etc, so just deleted it and never looked backwards. Now, with the positive reports I am reading everywhere, I am wondering if maybe I should get it while the 199.00 price is there. A very close friend who is an incredible landscape photographer and shoots a LOT of stuff on a daily basis has just posted on his website a rave review of how he works with it and how much it has improved his workflow. Now, that doesn't fit my work habit, as I tend to shoot sporadically and ony dozens of shots at a time, but I still could use the database management tools it has to offer. I just can't seem to get past the bad experience I had with the printing. I'm looking for someone to push me down the hill here, guys and gals!! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PowerPC G5 iMac and Huey
Does anybody else have a PowerPC-based G5 iMac that they have calibrated with a Huey? What results do you get? I get peculiar discolored posterized shadows; Pantone has no idea why. The Huey works wonderfully on our MacBook. Rick http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Kids playing Soccer
On Apr 12, 2007, at 11:21 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: I like this shot. What do you think: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/456765816/ Hmm. The color seems a little odd ... kinda flat somehow ... and I'm not sure that the expression of the two boys is really the best. Neither seem to be focused on the ball in this moment. I think the one next to it on your site, http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/456790064/ has a better set of expressions in it. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO - Joshua Tree
Shot this in Joshua Tree National Monument, love that place. Pentax ME Super SE. http://home.earthlink.net/~nbaugher/joshuatree.htm Norm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax Gallery: Uploading problems...?
I had them analyze one of mine that got rejected that way. What they told me was there was some exif data. If there is any exif data, then they scan for pentax cameras in it. If they don't find it, they reject. So what you really want to do with the scanned images is to strip all exif data from it before submitting. I do that with the Save for Web Adobe function in Elements or photoshop. Hope this helps. -- Bruce Thursday, April 12, 2007, 11:13:18 AM, you wrote: BM Hi, BM After a long spell, I added new(old) stuff to the Pentax Gallery, most BM were film shots. They were consistent rejected because of lack of BM EXIF data blah blah blah ... even with the scanned... box ticked. BM Most of my previous shots that were accepted were film photos--this BM happening to anyone else? BM Bong BM -- BM Bong Manayon BM http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: See ya later
Bill, Good luck! -- Bruce Thursday, April 12, 2007, 11:44:21 AM, you wrote: WR We are off to the Battlefords for a dawg show. WR I am showing Jester, the ADHD puppy, Charmi is showing Bella, the lovely WR Walloon. WR I will be back on Sunday, depending on how well we do, perhaps earlier than WR later. WR Have fun. WR William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Lightroom Query
The beta was occasionally challenging in the Print module with regard to setup and sizing. However, all of that seems to have been fully sorted out ... I use it exclusively for my printing now and am extremely happy with it. I find it best in Lightroom, just as in Photoshop, to use a profiled print workflow rather than letting the print driver sort out the color management on its own. Lightroom makes it much easier to set up a particular print format and apply it to as many photos as I want, reuse it whenever I want, compared to Photoshop. There are many subtle differences in features and UI between the last public beta and the release 1.0 version. I would recommend downloading the free trial and going through Michael Tapes' tutorial videos to refresh your memory and understand the basics. They're available at http://www.rawworkflow.com/ I believe the tutorials are free of charge, although a request is made for a purchase to offset his costs in producing and providing them. Godfrey On Apr 12, 2007, at 11:47 AM, Walter Hamler wrote: I downloaded the Beta some time back and basically liked what I saw. However, I could never get it to print decent stuff. I wasn't willing to chase driver problems, etc, so just deleted it and never looked backwards. Now, with the positive reports I am reading everywhere, I am wondering if maybe I should get it while the 199.00 price is there. A very close friend who is an incredible landscape photographer and shoots a LOT of stuff on a daily basis has just posted on his website a rave review of how he works with it and how much it has improved his workflow. Now, that doesn't fit my work habit, as I tend to shoot sporadically and ony dozens of shots at a time, but I still could use the database management tools it has to offer. I just can't seem to get past the bad experience I had with the printing. I'm looking for someone to push me down the hill here, guys and gals!! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Missed it by THAT much!
On Apr 12, 2007, at 10:48, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Certainly worth it for the lens alone. Ah well, there are other fish in the pond... ...and my wife had even bought into the the idea, too! Ah well. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org I am riding in the MS-TRAM this summer. Please consider sponsoring me! http://charles.robinsontwins.org/mstram.htm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: See ya later
Woof, woo woo woof! Woof William Robb wrote: We are off to the Battlefords for a dawg show. I am showing Jester, the ADHD puppy, Charmi is showing Bella, the lovely Walloon. I will be back on Sunday, depending on how well we do, perhaps earlier than later. Have fun. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Lightroom Query
I just stumbled over a load of short tutorials http://www.lightroomkillertips.com/ What I've seen so far looks good. Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: 12. april 2007 21:09 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Lightroom Query The beta was occasionally challenging in the Print module with regard to setup and sizing. However, all of that seems to have been fully sorted out ... I use it exclusively for my printing now and am extremely happy with it. I find it best in Lightroom, just as in Photoshop, to use a profiled print workflow rather than letting the print driver sort out the color management on its own. Lightroom makes it much easier to set up a particular print format and apply it to as many photos as I want, reuse it whenever I want, compared to Photoshop. There are many subtle differences in features and UI between the last public beta and the release 1.0 version. I would recommend downloading the free trial and going through Michael Tapes' tutorial videos to refresh your memory and understand the basics. They're available at http://www.rawworkflow.com/ I believe the tutorials are free of charge, although a request is made for a purchase to offset his costs in producing and providing them. Godfrey On Apr 12, 2007, at 11:47 AM, Walter Hamler wrote: I downloaded the Beta some time back and basically liked what I saw. However, I could never get it to print decent stuff. I wasn't willing to chase driver problems, etc, so just deleted it and never looked backwards. Now, with the positive reports I am reading everywhere, I am wondering if maybe I should get it while the 199.00 price is there. A very close friend who is an incredible landscape photographer and shoots a LOT of stuff on a daily basis has just posted on his website a rave review of how he works with it and how much it has improved his workflow. Now, that doesn't fit my work habit, as I tend to shoot sporadically and ony dozens of shots at a time, but I still could use the database management tools it has to offer. I just can't seem to get past the bad experience I had with the printing. I'm looking for someone to push me down the hill here, guys and gals!! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PowerPC G5 iMac and Huey
I have no experience with that particular setup, but I and others have seen various issues with the Pantone Huey and different system configurations. Because of those issues, and similar issues with the Spyder2 product, I generally recommend the Eye One Display 2 instead. Godfrey On Apr 12, 2007, at 11:50 AM, Rick Womer wrote: Does anybody else have a PowerPC-based G5 iMac that they have calibrated with a Huey? What results do you get? I get peculiar discolored posterized shadows; Pantone has no idea why. The Huey works wonderfully on our MacBook. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: See ya later
Don't do anything you know I wouldn't do. Then you'll be ok. Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: 12. april 2007 20:44 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: See ya later We are off to the Battlefords for a dawg show. I am showing Jester, the ADHD puppy, Charmi is showing Bella, the lovely Walloon. I will be back on Sunday, depending on how well we do, perhaps earlier than later. Have fun. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: From a Recent Press Release...
Why would it make it suspect? They are the majority shareholder. Almost all (if not all) shareholders are in it for primarily one thing - making money. If making the most amount of profit in the shortest amount of time is Sparx's goal, it's also the goal of many other shareholders. I'm not stating anything regarding the possible demise of Pentax other than what is publicly available. I do think their prediction of It will be hard for Pentax to survive on its own in five to 10 years' time is a truthful statement. If it were not, Pentax would have had no interest in a merger with Hoya and Hoya would not have made indications that they would consider divesting themselves of the low-margin divisions of Pentax, post-merger. Tom C. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: From a Recent Press Release... Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 14:49:44 -0400 The point is success to Sparx is not necessarily, in fact probably isn't, success to Pentax. In fact in Sparx is better off if Pentax is sold. That makes Sparx's predictions of Pentax's demise suspect. I'm not saying that those predictions are wrong, but I'm considering the source. Tom C wrote: From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: From a Recent Press Release... Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 13:21:00 -0400 Then again Sparx group seems to have a vested interest in Pentax getting out of the Photography business, in fact any business. They wanted that before Pentax's recent success in the DSLR market and like any group of analysts they hate to be wrong. Sometimes so much so that they ignore results. You should keep in mind that Sparkx Group has no vested interest in the actual survival of any company, (except maybe for themselves), to them its only money, and maximizing return is all they care about. Better for Pentax to be bought by Hoya and dismembered, from their point of view, (which will net them relatively high profits on the sale of their holdings), than continue to survive and pay dividends with only a normal appreciation in value over time. Pentax's recent success in the DSLR market though, has been relatively small. Small overall market share, small profit margin, even though they are turning a profit. It makes it very hard to compete. Yes I know that Sparx and many other investors may have no vested interest in the survival of the company. That's exactly why some of us have been saying for several years that we were worried with regard to survival of the brand. That, and we thought Pentax was making stupid moves in the business (which may have been the only moves they could make, based on cash flow and profitability). It has little to do with Pentax's past history as a leader in the 50's and 60's, the quality of their lenses, or whether we personally like the Pentax brand. Tom C. Tom C wrote: The No. 1 shareholder, with a stake of 23.9%, is independent asset management firm Sparx Group Co. (8739). It will be hard for Pentax to survive on its own in five to 10 years' time, Sparx President Shuhei Abe says. I'm not saying the sky is falling. But I also would not be surprised if the recent posturing is not just a way to further up the ante/purchase-price of Pentax. If that threshold is met, Hoya could acquire the most profitable part of the business, while possibly selling off or eliminating the underperforming 2% profit camera-side of the business. Remember, during most acquisitions, mergers, shutdowns, the modus operandi is business as usual until the day an announcement is made. We've seen that in operation already with the way the Samsung partnering was announced, the way the merger was announced, and now the suddenness with the backing away from the deal. Time will tell. Tom C. -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Tree Screen
In a message dated 4/12/2007 11:39:39 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd want to pull the highs down a little bit while separating and expanding the tonal contrasts in the trees, bringing them up a notch too. To me, this says a combination of curves adjustment layers and masking is necessary ... I don't think any global editing tool will do the job precisely enough. You wouldn't want to lose the delicate roses and pinks, etc. Given the complexity of the composition, rendering it out to exploit everything you can get from it will take a bit of effort. And yes, I also think it would look best LARGE. :-) Godfrey = Thanks, Godfrey. Marnie aka Doe :-) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
A bag for Laptop and K10D + 3 lenses and Flash and Pentax HOOD
Dear Colleagues, Thank you for sharing your experience and expertise. I am new to D/SLR camera world (just 4 months) and hope that I could increase my knowledge in photography. I am working as disaster relief doctor and taking pictures would be a good hobby after hard days in field. I have two questions: 1. I want to buy a bag pack, which can hold my K10D, + 3 lenses including, Pentax 70-300mm, an external flash, tripod and laptop. Which bag pack do you suggest? 2. I want to buy 2 Pentax hoods for FA-J 70-300mm and 28-80mm. But I can not find any place online including BH. do you have any idea where I can buy it? Cheers, Amirkambiz P.S: Dear Godfrey, I have Pentax FA-J 70-300mm, I am happy about it. I like its zoom, but to talk about the quality of picture I can not tell any thing. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Lightroom Query
On Apr 12, 2007, at 12:18 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: ... I would recommend downloading the free trial and going through Michael Tapes' tutorial videos to refresh your memory and understand the basics. They're available at http://www.rawworkflow.com/ ... I just stumbled over a load of short tutorials http://www.lightroomkillertips.com/ What I've seen so far looks good. Here's a couple more URLs that might be of interest as well: News and events: http://www.lightroom-news.com/ An excellent paid tutorial ($15) is available from Luminous Landscape: http://luminous-landscape.com/videos/LR-V1.shtml?main_page=% 20product_infocPath=13_14_16products_id=126 or http://tinyurl.com/3ag4mt I think Michael Tapes free introductory tutorials are the best starting point, however. Covers a lot of ground every effectively. (You might be wondering why I'm so interested in this topic. I'm preparing a presentation on Lightroom for the local photography group to be given in about three weeks... ;-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: So It Goes
Indeed. I was very sorry to hear that. I love his books. Even his less well-known ones are full of gems. Galapagos was about an event which killed all humans except for a small group of people who happened to be on a tourist trip to the Galapagos. It traces their descendants over a period of 2 million years as they evolve into seal-like creatures whose only remaining resemblance to humans is that they laugh whenever one of the others farts. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: 12 April 2007 14:47 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: OT: So It Goes Kurt Vonnegut has passed. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/books/12vonnegut.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO - Tree Screen
Excellent. Very effective, and an original way of looking at a cliched subject. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 April 2007 16:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Tree Screen Another from Yosemite. A different way to look at Big Rocks. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/treescreen.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - A Chilly Afternoon
It is big enough and bright enough for me. I think there is too much sky that has nothing in it. So I would crop it a bit differently. Take most of it off and go for a more square shot. With that kind of crop, I think it would be a pretty good photo. -- Bruce Wednesday, April 11, 2007, 4:40:53 PM, you wrote: RK http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2959.html RK There are several types of comments I am looking for: RK 1) The typical 'good, bad and ugly' comments as well as constructive criticism. RK 2) Is big enough, or just right? RK 3) Is it bright enough? RK Thanks for looking. RK Russ RK -- RK Legacy Air, Inc. RK 11900 Airport Way RK Broomfield Colorado 80021 RK (303) 404-0277 RK fax (303) 404-0280 RK www.legacy-air.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A bag for Laptop and K10D + 3 lenses and Flash and Pentax HOOD
Thanks for the note on the FA-J 70-300! I have two questions: 1. I want to buy a bag pack, which can hold my K10D, + 3 lenses including, Pentax 70-300mm, an external flash, tripod and laptop. Which bag pack do you suggest? If you are thinking a backpack style bag, the Lowepro CompuTrekker AW will handle all of that very easily. I have one of these that I don't use enough which I'm looking to sell. Lowepro makes a couple of models of the CompuTrekker ... excellent bags. For a shoulder bag to do this job, I've been using a Timbuk2 Commute XL. I'm not sure if it's still in production in the XL size, but unless you are using a 17 laptop, the standard Commute model will probably do the job as well. 2. I want to buy 2 Pentax hoods for FA-J 70-300mm and 28-80mm. But I can not find any place online including BH. do you have any idea where I can buy it? The Pentax USA online store (start at http://www.pentaximaging.com) lists the following for the FA-J 28-80: 58mm Lens Hood PH-RBE (FA J 28-80) $26.00 USD I don't see a listing for the FA-J 70-300, you might want to call their customer service number and find out if they have it available. However, these hoods are for use with 35mm SLR cameras ... you can use longer hoods for the DSLRs without vignetting. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: From a Recent Press Release...
It seems Pentax is/was/will be bit that much interested into a merger but Urano was. It's not clear at all (yet) if Pentax (its shareholders) are really interested in a merger or if Urano's proposal was well why not after all. 2007/4/12, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Why would it make it suspect? They are the majority shareholder. Almost all (if not all) shareholders are in it for primarily one thing - making money. If making the most amount of profit in the shortest amount of time is Sparx's goal, it's also the goal of many other shareholders. I'm not stating anything regarding the possible demise of Pentax other than what is publicly available. I do think their prediction of It will be hard for Pentax to survive on its own in five to 10 years' time is a truthful statement. If it were not, Pentax would have had no interest in a merger with Hoya and Hoya would not have made indications that they would consider divesting themselves of the low-margin divisions of Pentax, post-merger. Tom C. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: From a Recent Press Release... Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 14:49:44 -0400 The point is success to Sparx is not necessarily, in fact probably isn't, success to Pentax. In fact in Sparx is better off if Pentax is sold. That makes Sparx's predictions of Pentax's demise suspect. I'm not saying that those predictions are wrong, but I'm considering the source. Tom C wrote: From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: From a Recent Press Release... Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 13:21:00 -0400 Then again Sparx group seems to have a vested interest in Pentax getting out of the Photography business, in fact any business. They wanted that before Pentax's recent success in the DSLR market and like any group of analysts they hate to be wrong. Sometimes so much so that they ignore results. You should keep in mind that Sparkx Group has no vested interest in the actual survival of any company, (except maybe for themselves), to them its only money, and maximizing return is all they care about. Better for Pentax to be bought by Hoya and dismembered, from their point of view, (which will net them relatively high profits on the sale of their holdings), than continue to survive and pay dividends with only a normal appreciation in value over time. Pentax's recent success in the DSLR market though, has been relatively small. Small overall market share, small profit margin, even though they are turning a profit. It makes it very hard to compete. Yes I know that Sparx and many other investors may have no vested interest in the survival of the company. That's exactly why some of us have been saying for several years that we were worried with regard to survival of the brand. That, and we thought Pentax was making stupid moves in the business (which may have been the only moves they could make, based on cash flow and profitability). It has little to do with Pentax's past history as a leader in the 50's and 60's, the quality of their lenses, or whether we personally like the Pentax brand. Tom C. Tom C wrote: The No. 1 shareholder, with a stake of 23.9%, is independent asset management firm Sparx Group Co. (8739). It will be hard for Pentax to survive on its own in five to 10 years' time, Sparx President Shuhei Abe says. I'm not saying the sky is falling. But I also would not be surprised if the recent posturing is not just a way to further up the ante/purchase-price of Pentax. If that threshold is met, Hoya could acquire the most profitable part of the business, while possibly selling off or eliminating the underperforming 2% profit camera-side of the business. Remember, during most acquisitions, mergers, shutdowns, the modus operandi is business as usual until the day an announcement is made. We've seen that in operation already with the way the Samsung partnering was announced, the way the merger was announced, and now the suddenness with the backing away from the deal. Time will tell. Tom C. -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PESO - Tree Screen
I rather like this one. Good concept! -- Bruce Thursday, April 12, 2007, 8:04:30 AM, you wrote: Eac Another from Yosemite. Eac A different way to look at Big Rocks. Eac http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/treescreen.htm Eac Comments welcome. Eac Marnie aka Doe :-) Eac ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Dusk
Well, it caught my eye. There is certainly a 'mood' to it. I like the BW treatment and the elements that are in the shot. Thanks for showing it. -- Bruce Wednesday, April 11, 2007, 11:40:07 PM, you wrote: AR Hi AR http://www.pbase.com/kiwibiologist/image/77040452 AR another from the same beach as Dog's on Holiday. Dusk was falling AR fast but we lingered long enough for me to catch this moment - sea AR spray, big waves, black sand, and this pair on their way home. AR Rendered in B W using lightroom - maybe a Tad dark, but this is how AR it looked to me - getting pretty dark. Love the SR on the 10D - 1/8s AR at 90mm! AR Comments welcome AR Alastair AR P.S. I know people don't usually have time to look at galleries but if AR you like, you can see more from the series at AR http://picasaweb.google.com/kiwibiologist/ToraBeachEaster2007 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: The mysterious ways of marketing
Most technical photo books are very poor, and just an excuse for the photographer to show off some of his pictures (they're almost all by men). -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Øsleby Sent: 12 April 2007 16:27 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The mysterious ways of marketing I just received a marketing mail. It's a about a book, the title translates to something like Practical digital photography. I know it is a good book because I already have the first edition. A few months after I bought it, a new revised much improved edition came. Smart as I am I skipped that, and I was right. Now it is improved even more in a third edition. Ok. That's the background. The smart marketing people are selling the book v3.0 with the words This book does not expire. It goes on, because this book is about basic photography and not about the latest fashion of equipment. Yeah, right. I'll have one of those, not ;-) Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - A Chilly Afternoon
Thanks Bill, Jack, Godders, Rick Markus, PJ and Bruce for your input. Several of you commented that it is rather flat. I actually did do that on purpose because, Rick you are correct, I was wanting it to be moody and dreary. However, I guess I went too far :) Here is a different take on it: squarier, contrastier and wider (so it still fits with out scrolling) and hopefully still gloomy and 'chilly' http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/spare2.html Thanks for looking (again). Russ On 4/11/07, Russell Kerstetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2959.html There are several types of comments I am looking for: 1) The typical 'good, bad and ugly' comments as well as constructive criticism. 2) Is big enough, or just right? 3) Is it bright enough? Thanks for looking. Russ -- Legacy Air, Inc. 11900 Airport Way Broomfield Colorado 80021 (303) 404-0277 fax (303) 404-0280 www.legacy-air.com -- Legacy Air, Inc. 11900 Airport Way Broomfield Colorado 80021 (303) 404-0277 fax (303) 404-0280 www.legacy-air.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: From a Recent Press Release...
An excerpt from another report yesterday. It would appear to indicate that Pentax et al. may not be opposed to a merger, they just changed their mind regarding the conditions of the formerly proposed merger. --- Watanuki, who was formerly a corporate vice president, also left the door open to a future tie-up in a broader sense, which could involve steps including a tender offer by Hoya or a joint venture. I've never expressed opposition to a merger, he said. Although Watanuki declined to comment on specific details of how he had come into his new post, he said the former management was not open and had caused in-house confusion. The comment suggested that former president Fumio Urano was too forceful in pushing for the Hoya deal, prompting a split within the company. Tom C. From: Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: From a Recent Press Release... Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 22:14:53 +0200 It seems Pentax is/was/will be bit that much interested into a merger but Urano was. It's not clear at all (yet) if Pentax (its shareholders) are really interested in a merger or if Urano's proposal was well why not after all. 2007/4/12, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Why would it make it suspect? They are the majority shareholder. Almost all (if not all) shareholders are in it for primarily one thing - making money. If making the most amount of profit in the shortest amount of time is Sparx's goal, it's also the goal of many other shareholders. I'm not stating anything regarding the possible demise of Pentax other than what is publicly available. I do think their prediction of It will be hard for Pentax to survive on its own in five to 10 years' time is a truthful statement. If it were not, Pentax would have had no interest in a merger with Hoya and Hoya would not have made indications that they would consider divesting themselves of the low-margin divisions of Pentax, post-merger. Tom C. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: From a Recent Press Release... Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 14:49:44 -0400 The point is success to Sparx is not necessarily, in fact probably isn't, success to Pentax. In fact in Sparx is better off if Pentax is sold. That makes Sparx's predictions of Pentax's demise suspect. I'm not saying that those predictions are wrong, but I'm considering the source. Tom C wrote: From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: From a Recent Press Release... Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 13:21:00 -0400 Then again Sparx group seems to have a vested interest in Pentax getting out of the Photography business, in fact any business. They wanted that before Pentax's recent success in the DSLR market and like any group of analysts they hate to be wrong. Sometimes so much so that they ignore results. You should keep in mind that Sparkx Group has no vested interest in the actual survival of any company, (except maybe for themselves), to them its only money, and maximizing return is all they care about. Better for Pentax to be bought by Hoya and dismembered, from their point of view, (which will net them relatively high profits on the sale of their holdings), than continue to survive and pay dividends with only a normal appreciation in value over time. Pentax's recent success in the DSLR market though, has been relatively small. Small overall market share, small profit margin, even though they are turning a profit. It makes it very hard to compete. Yes I know that Sparx and many other investors may have no vested interest in the survival of the company. That's exactly why some of us have been saying for several years that we were worried with regard to survival of the brand. That, and we thought Pentax was making stupid moves in the business (which may have been the only moves they could make, based on cash flow and profitability). It has little to do with Pentax's past history as a leader in the 50's and 60's, the quality of their lenses, or whether we personally like the Pentax brand. Tom C. Tom C wrote: The No. 1 shareholder, with a stake of 23.9%, is independent asset management firm Sparx Group Co. (8739). It will be hard for Pentax to survive on its own in five to 10 years' time, Sparx President Shuhei Abe says. I'm not saying the sky is falling. But I also would not be surprised if the recent posturing is not just a way to further up the ante/purchase-price
Re: Pentax Gallery: Uploading problems...?
It did 'til someone advised me to put the final jpg image through save for the web. I've had no problems since. Seems it clears the EXIF data.(?) Jack --- Bong Manayon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, After a long spell, I added new(old) stuff to the Pentax Gallery, most were film shots. They were consistent rejected because of lack of EXIF data blah blah blah ... even with the scanned... box ticked. Most of my previous shots that were accepted were film photos--this happening to anyone else? Bong -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
OT: Guess what T. Rex tastes like
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6548719.stm Bone appetit! Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Kids playing Soccer
Hello Jens, Kids and sports - tricky to shoot well. I like the 'pose' you captured of them. What I struggle with is feeling like they are in a game, rather than a practice. What contributes to that is the great DOF allowing me to very clearly make out other fields and goals. I would still like to see some blurring of the background to help me concentrate on the players. So, pretty good, but not stunning. -- Bruce Thursday, April 12, 2007, 11:21:29 AM, you wrote: JB I like this shot. What do you think: JB http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/456765816/ JB Regards JB Jens Bladt JB http://www.jensbladt.dk JB +45 56 63 77 11 JB +45 23 43 85 77 JB Skype: jensbladt248 JB -- JB No virus found in this outgoing message. JB Checked by AVG Free Edition. JB Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.3.0/758 - Release Date: 04/12/2007 JB 11:52 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Q: Pentax FA-J 75-300 ? Sigma 135-400 ?
Godfrey, Unfortunately, I don't have experience with either. I've been using Tamron 70-300 4-5.6 LD/Macro that I bought back in 1998. It is a reasonable lens. I found that the quality of the photos is comparable to what I am getting with SMCP-F-70-210 in the same range of focal lengths. It is noticeably soft in the range ~250-300, especially wide open. (That's the reason I've been considering Sigma 100-300/4 or something similar). I've done quite a few good shots with this lens. It is definitely a good buy for its price. When I was choosing, I believe there was a consensus that Tamron was better then the rival Sigma lens, and even then Pentax (100-300, and probably 80-320 if it was around at that point). I am not sure about the current version of Tamron (Di) lens, but the price range is comparable to that of Pentax 70-300. HTH, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Manual focus solution for istD series, Split image RF screen
I didnt do any controlled testing if this screen has any measurable change effect on metering, but so far with program mode using A lenses, screw lenses in AV mode, and PK/M lenses using stop down GB method I am not noticing any differences visibly. I use the centerweighted metering mode ususally. I guess I could put the old screen back in to do some controlled tests, but I like this one so much better that there is no way I am going back to the old screen even if there is a slight difference so I dont even want to bother fooling around with the old screen anymore. The split image really helps on this camera (istDS) for MF lenses and thats all I use... jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Boris Liberman Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 12:08 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Manual focus solution for istD series, Split image RF screen John, what about metering, notably center weighted and spot? Thanks. On 4/12/07, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI, Just got this split image RF screen for my istDS ( should work in any of the istD series cameras ) : http://preview.tinyurl.com/yu25dy works fine, nice clear split image and a large microprism surround. I dont think you can get this from Pentax (yet?). Works easily to F4 on any lens I tried and still very usable to F5.6 on some lenses. Focus seems as accurate as the original screen based on my tests. Recommended, and it's cheap for the vast improvement it makes IMHO. (P.S. dont forget to specify what camera you need it for when you pay, he makes them for a whole bunch of different model DSLRS.) jco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: OT: So It Goes
Saw the headline news on the local student newspaper, didn't realize who he was and didn't read the article, until now. Now I know he taught a couple of years at Iowa's Writer's Workshop back in the '60s. I'll make sure to read some of his books. Yefei -Original Message- Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 09:47:20 -0400 From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: So It Goes To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Kurt Vonnegut has passed. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/books/12vonnegut.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - A Chilly Afternoon
I think that's definitely a stronger photo. The square crop suits it well, the larger size and tonal edits make it more than the prior rendering. Good job! G On Apr 12, 2007, at 1:31 PM, Russell Kerstetter wrote: Thanks Bill, Jack, Godders, Rick Markus, PJ and Bruce for your input. Several of you commented that it is rather flat. I actually did do that on purpose because, Rick you are correct, I was wanting it to be moody and dreary. However, I guess I went too far :) Here is a different take on it: squarier, contrastier and wider (so it still fits with out scrolling) and hopefully still gloomy and 'chilly' http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/spare2.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Manual focus solution for istD series, Split image RF screen
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007, J. C. O'Connell wrote: I didnt do any controlled testing if this screen has any measurable change effect on metering, but so far with program mode using A lenses, screw lenses in AV mode, and PK/M lenses using stop down GB method I am not noticing any differences visibly. I use the centerweighted metering mode ususally. I guess I could put the old screen back in to do some controlled tests, but I like this one so much better that there is no way I am going back to the old screen even if there is a slight difference so I dont even want to bother fooling around with the old screen anymore. The split image really helps on this camera (istDS) for MF lenses and thats all I use... jco I agree with the one I filed down from an old Minolta. With the kit lens (f/5.6) though, I found I have to be careful with eye placement to keep the split prism from blacking out. Also, I'm surprised you say that the GB hack works OK. I've found that with center-weighted (and especially spot), any more than f/8 and it blacks out and overexposes. Certainly not consistent. Bottom line, with S/K/M lenses (almost all of what I use too), many shots require a couple test fires with the check of the histogram to get it right. -Cory -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Boris Liberman Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 12:08 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Manual focus solution for istD series, Split image RF screen John, what about metering, notably center weighted and spot? Thanks. On 4/12/07, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI, Just got this split image RF screen for my istDS ( should work in any of the istD series cameras ) : http://preview.tinyurl.com/yu25dy works fine, nice clear split image and a large microprism surround. I dont think you can get this from Pentax (yet?). Works easily to F4 on any lens I tried and still very usable to F5.6 on some lenses. Focus seems as accurate as the original screen based on my tests. Recommended, and it's cheap for the vast improvement it makes IMHO. (P.S. dont forget to specify what camera you need it for when you pay, he makes them for a whole bunch of different model DSLRS.) jco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- * * Cory Papenfuss, Ph.D., PPSEL-IA * * Electrical Engineering* * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * * -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Q: Pentax FA-J 75-300 ? Sigma 135-400 ?
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 10:36:13 -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote A friend is looking for decent quality lens with a 300mm tele capability, at least. This is out of the range of my experience in Pentax lenses. Anyone worked with the FA-J75-300? or the Sigma 135-400? I know the Sigma 50-500 has a big following, but it's pricier than he can afford. The FAJ seems very inexpensive ... is it any good? thanks for any comments. Godfrey Hi Godfrey I've had the Sigma 135-400 APO, while not in the same league as the 50-500 it really is quite a good lens. My main gripe with the lens was the amount of extension and weight transferral when zoomed, it's at least as good as the 70- 300 APO Sigma, which I also had for some time. I believe the 50-500 does not change length when zoomed, it's definitely a different class of lens. I sold the 135-400 when I bought the 70-200/2.8 APO, which I use in conjunction with a 300/4 APO prime and two EX converters. Effectively the 70- 200 + 2x EX covers the 135-400 range I had previously with very acceptable results. Hope this helps. John The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Lightroom Query
I did not wonder at all. Just thought you where your own thorough self ;-) Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: 12. april 2007 21:54 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Lightroom Query On Apr 12, 2007, at 12:18 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: ... I would recommend downloading the free trial and going through Michael Tapes' tutorial videos to refresh your memory and understand the basics. They're available at http://www.rawworkflow.com/ ... I just stumbled over a load of short tutorials http://www.lightroomkillertips.com/ What I've seen so far looks good. Here's a couple more URLs that might be of interest as well: News and events: http://www.lightroom-news.com/ An excellent paid tutorial ($15) is available from Luminous Landscape: http://luminous-landscape.com/videos/LR-V1.shtml?main_page=% 20product_infocPath=13_14_16products_id=126 or http://tinyurl.com/3ag4mt I think Michael Tapes free introductory tutorials are the best starting point, however. Covers a lot of ground every effectively. (You might be wondering why I'm so interested in this topic. I'm preparing a presentation on Lightroom for the local photography group to be given in about three weeks... ;-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: The mysterious ways of marketing
I see your point. But this guy isn't so bad. In fact it could be used as a coffee table book. Not at a classy coffee table, but, you get the idea. The thing that really caught my attention was the does not expire part. How dumb do they think we are? Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob W Sent: 12. april 2007 22:22 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: The mysterious ways of marketing Most technical photo books are very poor, and just an excuse for the photographer to show off some of his pictures (they're almost all by men). -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Øsleby Sent: 12 April 2007 16:27 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The mysterious ways of marketing I just received a marketing mail. It's a about a book, the title translates to something like Practical digital photography. I know it is a good book because I already have the first edition. A few months after I bought it, a new revised much improved edition came. Smart as I am I skipped that, and I was right. Now it is improved even more in a third edition. Ok. That's the background. The smart marketing people are selling the book v3.0 with the words This book does not expire. It goes on, because this book is about basic photography and not about the latest fashion of equipment. Yeah, right. I'll have one of those, not ;-) Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - A Chilly Afternoon
Yes, this looks much better - I don't think you lost the feel you were trying to convey. -- Bruce Thursday, April 12, 2007, 1:31:23 PM, you wrote: RK Thanks Bill, Jack, Godders, Rick Markus, PJ and Bruce for your input. RK Several of you commented that it is rather flat. I actually did do RK that on purpose because, Rick you are correct, I was wanting it to be RK moody and dreary. However, I guess I went too far :) Here is a RK different take on it: squarier, contrastier and wider (so it still RK fits with out scrolling) and hopefully still gloomy and 'chilly' RK http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/spare2.html RK Thanks for looking (again). RK Russ RK On 4/11/07, Russell Kerstetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2959.html There are several types of comments I am looking for: 1) The typical 'good, bad and ugly' comments as well as constructive criticism. 2) Is big enough, or just right? 3) Is it bright enough? Thanks for looking. Russ -- Legacy Air, Inc. 11900 Airport Way Broomfield Colorado 80021 (303) 404-0277 fax (303) 404-0280 www.legacy-air.com RK -- RK Legacy Air, Inc. RK 11900 Airport Way RK Broomfield Colorado 80021 RK (303) 404-0277 RK fax (303) 404-0280 RK www.legacy-air.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
