RE: OT - for those of you who haveDVD equipthat can playPALsystemDVD's

[J. C. O'Connell]

John Francis must be out of touch on the latest
HDTV displays their image quality compared
to ANY CRT HDTVS. I happen to own what is
considered by many the best CRT HDTV ever made, bar
none, (the Sony 34XBR960 of 2004). As much as
I like it, it is simply nowhere near as sharp as
the latest 1080P LCD displays from sony & some others
and all the earlier problems that the LCD
displays had back in 2004 have now been overcome
like poor contrast ratio, color gamut, colour
accuracy, etc compared to the best CRTs of
that time. In some cases those parameters now
exceed the best CRT HDTVS ever made. this
is why CRTs are being phased out in ALL
sizes now. All you have to do is go into
any best buy or circuit city and spend
about a half hour looking at all the latest
1080P LCDs and then browse over to the
few remaining CRT HD displays and take
a gander, they all look really bad
in comparison to the state of the LCD
art. Granted they dont have the very
best CRTs like mine there, those arent
even being made anymore, but the HD CRTS
in general just look plain blurry compared
to the best 1080p LCDs.

Regarding how much difference you
will see between the best upconverted DVD
signals and the best HD signals, the
better the HD display the more the
difference becomes apparent. On
these latest HD LCD 1080P sets its VERY apparent
difference, a few year ago, especailly
on CRTs the differece
was always noticably better but
nothing like the the difference
you see now. Try to see a 1080P
LCD playing a good Blu-Ray disc,
its really amazing.
 
One other caveat, not many people
who havent owned a HDTV know this,
but DVD is an excellent format
in itself but you cant even
begin to see it in full quality
without an HDTV becuase of 
component/HDMI , anamorphic disk,
progressive diplaying etc. So
you have to be careful when
comparing the difference between
DVD vs HD on a given HD set. 
Of course if you compare HD on
a HD set to DVD on an older non
HD set, he DVD will be blown away
with ANY HD set playing HD.
jco


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On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 08:40:48PM -0400, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
> > Sir, the typical Blu-Ray/HDDVD buyer is not
> > going to still use an older HD set that
> > doesnt have HDMI interface anyway,
> > As good as they were, none of the
> > older HD sets that dont have HDMI input
> > are as good as the best HD sets being
> > made at the time of BLURAY HDDVD
> > introductions and later. The bottom line, is
> > you wont even hardly see any
> > differece between blu-ray/HDDVD
> > on those older sets compared to
> > upconverted DVD if the set is
> > so old it doesnt have HDMI.
> >
>   I cry bullshit on this.  CRT's have been capable of reproducing
> 1920x1080 (i.e. 1080i, 1080p) and *certainly* 1280x720 (i.e. 720p) for

> many years.  Many "HD-ready" sets sold withing the past 12-18 months
do 
> not have HDMI-capable inputes.

Well, my (non-HDMI) HDTV might not be as good as "the best HD sets being
made at the time of BLURAY HDDVD introduction", but it (and many other
sets of that vintage) are quite capable of doing 1080i and 720p - that's
what over-the-air HDTV can do.

And while it's true that I won't see a difference between upconverted
DVD and blu-ray/HDDVD on my set, I sure as hell would be able to see a
difference if I could get a 720p or 1080i component signal from a HDDVD
player.  But as the manufacturers won't provide such a signal, the
argument is moot.

Blu-Ray/HDDVD have shot themselves in the foot; the early-adopters of
HDTV (back in the days when the price of entry was $5000 and up) aren't
quite ready yet to drop another few $K on a system upgrade (genuine
1080p LCD TVs are still pretty expensive, although the price is
beginning to come down to more reasonable levels).


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Re: OT - for those of you whohaveDVD equipthat can playPAL systemDVD's

[David Mann]

On Apr 20, 2007, at 10:55 AM, Bob W wrote:

> In any case, to answer your question, the system was developed so that
> the publishers could stagger releases, as you've already said, and so
> that they could enforce price differences in different regions. There
> is no benefit whatsoever to the consumer.

I believe it's also a scam to get around parallel import legislation  
in many countries.  Controlling the distribution channel is very  
important to media companies (and many others).

I seem to recall hearing that it's technically illegal to sell region- 
locked players in NZ.  Mine (purchased quite a long time ago) was  
region-free out of the box.  I've imported a number of DVDs from both  
the US (region 1) and the UK (region 2) - this is stuff that is  
either completely unavailable here or is simply cheaper to buy via  
Amazon.  I am consumer, hear me roar.

Pity my main TV is currently broken :)

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Re: Ground Cover Question

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In a message dated 4/19/2007 11:25:49 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
At 02:13 PM 20/04/2007,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Has anyone ever made a sort of blanket that  can fold up small  into a small
>duffle with a shoulder strap? There  must be something like that  somewhere, 
I
>would  think.


Sounds like a situation where a smallish size lined picnic  blanket might 
come in  handy:





Cheers,

Dave

==
That's  a really good idea. Thanks!

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Re: PDML Members' web pages

[Mark Cassino]

Mark Roberts wrote:

> 
> By "run down" the neighborhood, do you mean crush us all into 
> insignificance by comparison? Don't know if I can prevent that but 
> you're on the list now anyway :)

thanks - and feel free to use my site in your class as a model of how 
sites deteriorate into spaghetti coded confusion over time. :-)

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Re: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL

[Digital Image Studio]

On 20/04/07, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I think we are beginning to repeat ourselves
> on this topic,,,

LOL, um, yeah.

I bet you have a nice comfy chair too, good for reading in ;-)

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Re: Ground Cover Question

[David Savage]

At 02:13 PM 20/04/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Has anyone ever made a sort of blanket that can fold up small  into a small
>duffle with a shoulder strap? There must be something like that  somewhere, I
>would think.


Sounds like a situation where a smallish size lined picnic blanket might 
come in handy:





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RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL

[J. C. O'Connell]

Well to each his own but I dont
think that most people would
agree that home theater "isn't that interesting".
A little old TV might not be, but not a good
HD home theater is another story altogether...

I think we are beginning to repeat ourselves 
on this topic,,,
jco

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On 20/04/07, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> NO, the major problem is most people think its still
> too expensive ( when they dont even know the price )
> or havent actually watched anything in HD like
> a good movie from beginning to end. HDTV is
> a no brainer home entertainment major improvement
> for all of mankind, just like silent movies, radio, TV,
> color TV, & home video were and are...Not some
> government mandated "cash grab" that the masses
> have to "suffer" thru.

It's got nothing to do with expense for some of us, I could find the
cash to buy the latest and greatest but I can't be bothered as it's just
not that interesting.

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RE: Blogging soon...

[Bob W]

> -Original Message-
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> 
> On 20/04/07, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I can not imagine why anyone would want to do a blog. Of 
> course I can
> > not imagine why my journal, when I was doing it, was 
> getting 3000 hits a
> > month either. Maybe I should do a podcast then thousands of 
> people could
> > listen to me talk to myself...
> 
> They obviously don't have HDTVs ;-)
> 

Naughty boy!

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Re: Size Sells?

[Mark Cassino]

Mike Hamilton wrote:

> My past experience has told me that 8x10 or smaller prints are easier
> or more desireable for people to hang on their walls because it does
> not dominate the whole wall.
> 
> My prints were mostly 8x10, with 3- 5x7 and one 11x14.
> 
> What is your experience with regard to this?

Depends on the image, the venue, and the audience.

I used to participate in a local artist co-op around the holidays, where 
we would lease a storefront and turn it into an art gallery for a month.

I had photo note cards with 6x4 inch photos on them, 5x7's, 8x10's and 
11x14's. I did this for 4 years, about 1,000 of the cards sold - lots of 
them were put into frames. (People would come back and tell me about 
framing the cards, or even come back to the store to show me how the 
card looked in a frame.) At $3 a pop, the cards were more or less a 
waste of time from a business perspective, though.

The 5x7's were the least popular - I was aiming at the impulse buyers 
and priced them at about $20 - a handful sold each year.

The 8x10's, matted to 11x14, were the best - 35 to 50 would go the door 
at $35 a shot.

The 11 x 14's (matted to 16 x 20) were not far behind, but when I nudged 
the price up from $45 to $50 I saw a big drop off in sales.

These were single matted, glycine bagged prints - no frames.

For exhibits, it depends. I did a collaborative exhibit with some 
friends who own a frame shop where I provided the prints and they did 
the framing - quite elaborate framing at that. We did a mix of huge 
prints - about half a dozen 24 x 30 inch landscapes and a mix about 30 
12 x 15 to 10x10 prints. That's the print size - the framed sizes were 
more on the order of 32 x 40 for the large prints, and 24 x 18 for the 
mid sized.

We had a great opening reception and next day follow up, with 3 of the 
huge pieces (each priced in the $1,000 neighborhood) selling, and a good 
number of the mediums and smalls going. But the economics of it 
basically worked out that we recouped the investment in materials in the 
first few days, made a small profit on the sales over the next few 
weeks, and now jointly own a bunch of nicely framed but 'old stock' 
images. The real profit from the venture was the fun in doing it (don't 
think there's a ferengi rule that covers that.)

In other shows, I've had the best luck with 16x20 inch framed shots, 
priced at $125. Hell- it's Kalamazoo, not NYC.

People do sometime take the attitude that "I could print a photo that 
size". A friend of mine makes avant guard steel furniture, powder coated 
in outrageous bright colors. People pick up her pieces, look at the 
wields, and say "I could make something like this." Being a somewhat "in 
your face type" her response is often "Yeah - so are you saying you 
THOUGHT of something that looks like this or just that you could 
assemble it if you had instructions?"  Bitchy works for her. But she has 
a point - it's not the technical execution (though I personally love 
executing technique) it's the vision, the energy. I'd take a 5x7 of 
Derrière la Gare Saint-Lazare in a heartbeat, but probably pass on every 
5x7 in every Walmart in every country in the world.

Lastly - subject matter and format go hand in hand. This shot:

http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/lighthouses/0204l01.htm

took first place in Harbour LIghts' l;ighthouse photography contest, and 
as a note card sells like hotcakes in the winter. But I doubt that I've 
sold more than 2 16x20 prints of it. No one wants a violent cold shot on 
their wall. Good image for a magazine and great image to send on a card 
  to your friends in Hawaii, coupled with a note about how cold Michigan is!

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RE: Blogging soon...

[Bob W]

Hi Doug,

I can beat that - I had a dentist visit AND an ENT visit to get my
ears scraped out! So I spent most of the day having my head examined,
then I lost a couple of squash games that I should have won easily.

No, I'm not saying you're smug, I'm just messing around and couldn't
resist the response to your comment.

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> 
> 
> On Apr 19, 2007, at 6:56 PM, Bob W wrote:
> >> well, aren't we feeling smug today.
> >>
> >
> > If I had a blog I could be smug every day!
> >
> > Bob
> 
> Okay, I admit that I am in a pissy mood today. Dentist visits 
> do that  
> to me.
> 
> But, are you saying that because I have a blog, I'm smug?
> 
> Or is this one of those, "I don't do it, so it couldn't possibly be

> worth anything" things?
> 
> Doug Brewer
> http://www.drivingtheflies.com
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Ground Cover Question

[Eactivist]

I have some pics in mind that I'd like to take  close to the ground. Like 
with me laying flat. I am an old lady with sort of bad  knees, so crouching is 
out. Laying down isn't.

So I've been thinking of  putting a blanket in the car. Well, yes, its partly 
a clothing issue -- not get  them all messed up. But is also partly a comfort 
issue -- some places very soon  here in California will have dry grass, 
prickly grass. I want some  padding.

Has anyone ever made a sort of blanket that can fold up small  into a small 
duffle with a shoulder strap? There must be something like that  somewhere, I 
would think.

Input welcome.

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Re: Blogging soon...

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 4/19/2007 9:15:28 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I can not imagine why  anyone would want to do a blog. Of course I can 
not imagine why my journal,  when I was doing it, was getting 3000 hits a 
month either. Maybe I should do  a podcast then thousands of people could 
listen to me talk to  myself...

-graywolf


Heck, why do some of those You  Tube vidoes get so many hits?

I actually hadn't heard about You Tube  until about three weeks ago.

People are strange. 

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Re: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 4/19/2007 10:50:28 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> So the burning   question is, where is the next Star Trek series. Huh, huh,
>  huh?
>

http://www.sliceofscifi.com/2007/04/06/could-a-new-star-trek-tv-series-be-on-t
he-horizon/

William  Robb 


Unfortunately it looks like TV vaporware. Isn't Rick  Berman still alive?

Still waiting.

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Re: PESO: On your mark, get set...

[David Savage]

At 01:40 PM 20/04/2007, you wrote:
>
>
>==
>Puzzled. What is  that red thing? What does it do?


It's a nylon ratchet strap. Similar to this:



You crank that metal handle backwards & forwards, and it tightens the 
strap. In this case to hold the dogs cage in place.

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Re: PAW - Sipping Tea

[Boris Liberman]

Not quite there yet, if you ask me. Why not vertical, pardon my asking?

Boris

frank theriault wrote:
> Perhaps this is more up my alley than the flowers pic:
> 
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5865658
> 
> Taken at the same time in the same coffeeshop as the aforementioned
> photo.  I rather like this one.
> 
> Comments are welcome.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: PESO 2007 - 19a - GDG

[Boris Liberman]

Just recently I've come across half dozen albums by Didier Marouani 
(a.k.a. ECAMA) and his group "Space". This photo would fit his music 
just right.

Here, Godfrey, another musical comment from me.

Boris


Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> Something about this one appealed to me as I was poking through my  
> files this morning. Thot I'd toss it out there for comments.  
> Positively Theriaultiran...
> 
>http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/19a.htm
> 
> Comments and critique always appreciated. Rotten tomatoes dodged.
> 
> enjoy
> Godfrey
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Re: OT: Useless cat

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In a message dated 4/19/2007 3:52:11 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:
http://bertc.com/uselessCat.htm

Bob


===
Heheheheheheheheheehehehehehe.

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Re: PAW - Coffeehouse Flowers

[Boris Liberman]

Frank, I think you overdid it at least by a full stop or may be even more.

No, it does not work for me. Sorry.

Boris

frank theriault wrote:
> I still don't really know how to do this stuff, but I was
> experimenting a bit with the on-board flash of the *istD.
> 
> Work or not?
> 
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5865680
> 
> Comments are always appreciated.
> 
> thanks,
> frank
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Re: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL

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>
> So the burning  question is, where is the next Star Trek series. Huh, huh,
> huh?
>

http://www.sliceofscifi.com/2007/04/06/could-a-new-star-trek-tv-series-be-on-the-horizon/

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Re: PESO: On your mark, get set...

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 4/19/2007 7:18:37 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
G'day All,

On my way  to work I couldn't resist this shot (850x503 pixels,  ~120kb):



No  high art, but it makes me smile.

As always, any and all comments  welcome.

Cheers,

Dave


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Puzzled. What is  that red thing? What does it do?

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Re: Size Sells?

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 4/19/2007 5:18:33 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Bigger is better -  even an 8x10 sized image on an 11x14 sized sheet is
better.  But I've  always been of the impression that prints that fill an
11x14 sheet in the  long dimension are the minimum way to go.  There are
always exceptions,  of course.

Shel

=
If it's a good picture it just looks  better too. I don't know maybe we see 
it easier.

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Re: Another Minarets Shot

[Boris Liberman]

Mark, could you please show the color version too???

Thanks.

Boris


Mark Erickson wrote:
> Paul's Minarets picture inspired me to dig into my archives and do some work
> on a shot I took last fall.  I grew up on the east side of the southern
> Sierra Nevada and hiked, fished, and skied a lot in the mountains between
> Lone Pine and Mammoth.  In high school I skied Mammoth 20-30 days per year,
> so the Minarets and Mts. Ritter and Banner were familiar sights.  After an
> absence of more than a decade when I went back last fall and took a bunch of
> pictures.
> 
> The URLs below link to a composite made from two shots taken with my *ist-Ds
> and FA 77 Ltd lens hand-held at F/8.  Man, that lens is sharp!  The sky was
> an crisp, pure blue with no clouds--not exactly Ansel Adams' most favored
> condition for dramatic mountain scenes.  To make things a little more
> interesting I went black and white with a real emphasis on red to darken the
> sky.  The originals were taken RAW.  The only other processing I did was to
> stitch the photos together with Photoshop and apply a little Smart Sharpen.
> Apologies in advance to those without 1280-pixel wide monitors.
> 
> http://www.westerickson.net/mark/misc/MinaretsRitterBannerMedium.jpg
> 
> The large is the full size version if you want to pixel peep.  I don't think
> that the Bayer pattern de-mosiac algorithms do very well with really fine
> detail like pine needles.  A Foveon sensor or dedicated black and white
> camera would have probably done much better...
> 
> http://www.westerickson.net/mark/misc/MinaretsRitterBannerLarge.jpg
> 
> --Mark
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Re: PESO -- Pirelli Building Detail

[Boris Liberman]

Peter, one of your stronger images for sure. Geometry! Yummy ;-).

Boris

P. J. Alling wrote:
> http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/pirellibuildingdetail.html
> 
> Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax 43mm f1.9 Limited
> 
> Notes: B&W conversion in using B&W plus yellow filter applied.
> 
> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
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Re: PESO - Distortion

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 4/19/2007 12:04:05 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Still get a "not found" error  page.

G

=
I am beginning to think it never  existed.

Marnie aka Doe :-)  




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Re: PAW - Henry's Wooden Bike

[Boris Liberman]

Frank, the top left corner is too jiggled :-(.



frank theriault wrote:
> Taken just outside the Jet Fuel Cafe, a notorious cyclist hangout.
> 
> Henry's father is one such bike-nut, and recently bought Henry a
> wooden bicycle.  As you can see, Henry quite enjoys it!
> 
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5861571
> 
> Comments always welcome.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
> 
> 
> Comments always welcome.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 


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Re: PESO: not my usual thing

[Boris Liberman]

I am afraid I think so too...

Mike Hamilton wrote:
> On 4/17/07, ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2607384#144586426-L-LB
>>
>> shot the trees from the car window coming home from Boston in the storm -
>> then neonized in photoshop
> 
> I think i would have liked it more without the fancy photoshopping! :)


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Re: PAW 2007 - 18 - GDG

[Boris Liberman]

Works for me!

Kenneth Waller wrote:
> I like it but for some reason I expect brighter green grass.
>  
> Kenneth Waller
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 1:55 AM
> Subject: PAW 2007 - 18 - GDG
> 
> 
>> I've been working on a variety of different photos. Thought I'd throw  
>> in a simple "Springtime" picture...  ;-)
>>
>>   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/18.htm
>>
>> Comments, critique, nasty weeds always appreciated.
>>
>> enjoy
>> Godfrey
> 
> 


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Re: Blogging soon...

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 4/19/2007 8:47:14 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I know you're being  nice, and I thank you (um, if you're talking  
about me...), but I do  work hard on my entries, probably harder than  
I do at making  photos.

Look, I know there are a whole bunch of smug blogs, and snarky  ones,   
just plain bad ones,  and all sorts, but if you care  to look around,  
there are some very talented people out there putting  out some damn  
fine work. Many just choose to have total control over  their work,  
rather than hand it over to a magazine or whatever.  They're using the  
power of the Internet to get the audience, same as  photographers,  
musicians, designers, any number of  vocations.

It just seems quite silly to me to dismiss all blogs as  something  
inferior.

Doug  Brewer
http://www.drivingtheflies.com


I agree. Yes, I  meant you and some others I have read. :-)

But to offset people who are  actually good writers and work on their posts, 
there are thousands and thousands  of teenager and twenty something blogs that 
are basically ramblings of what is  going on in their life at the time. On 
line journals so to speak.

For  those Bob's little story about the lady at the bus stop that can't stop 
talking  and babbles everything to perfect strangers was very, very apt.

Marnie  aka Doe  




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Re: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 4/19/2007 7:35:08 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I watch television  because it's my job. I have to be in synch with  
popular culture, and I  have to watch the commercials that are airing.  
I need to see what's  being broadcast at its best. I subscribe to both  
satellite providers  and cable providers, and I view them on the  
largest HD Plasma  television available and listen on 5+1 surround  
sound. But it's my  job. I try to avoid the really awful network  
programming, but I know  when new campaigns will launch, and I watch  
the ratings toppers to see  what might synch with them. I've had to  
watch American Idol to see the  Ford campaign, but the sound and the  
video were so well done that it  wasn't really painful. In addition, I  
watch movies that catch my  interest on DVD, and I follow some sports.  
Might as well. The  equipment is already in place.

BTW, I'm back at work. Writing on a number  of accounts at an agency  
called Doner. But I have other  plans.
Paul


I watch TV because I like it. So there.  Nyah, nyah. (Not to you, Paul, to 
all these pretentious snobs who can't stoop to  paying attention to popular 
culture. Which I think is valid just to keep in  touch with what a majority of 
people are paying attention to, regardless of any  other reason.) 

Well... sort of. When you come right down to it, I  actually only have about 
4 shows I am a regular devotee of and Frasier reruns. I  think it's because I 
started watching TV when I was a kid and after 40+ years of  situation 
comedies and dramas, I seen about every plot device there is so they  are all 
rather 
predictable now. And I've never seen the charm of CSI with all  its stuff 
about dead bodies that I would rather not know.

So the burning  question is, where is the next Star Trek series. Huh, huh, 
huh?

Marnie  aka Doe ;-)  




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Re: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL

[Shel Belinkoff]

It seems that JCO does ... sheesh!  Sio much noise about watching TV and
DVDs.

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Digital Image Studio

> Does anyone really have to watch TV? 


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Re: PESO: On your mark, get set...

[Mike Hamilton]

On 4/19/07, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 

I like it.  The only thing that bothers me is the halo around the
traffic light.  :)


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Re: PESO: On your mark, get set...

[David Savage]

On 4/20/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Apr 19, 2007, at 7:12 AM, David Savage wrote:
> > 
>
> That's nice.

Thank you.

> The background is quite interesting. Looks heavily processed.

It is.

>Not bad, but I'm curious what you did.

Copied the background layer, adjusted the highlights with the
shadows/highlights tool, masked off the foreground, and bumped up the
saturation of the blues slightly.

I was trying to enhance the washed out sky with simulated dark storm
clouds that we had later that day.

Thanks for looking.

Cheers,

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Re: PESO: Limbo

[Russell Kerstetter]

I like it.  I am lusting after this lens, and your photo doesn't help  :)

I agree also with what some others have said.  It (tilt) is like a
fisheye or unusual effect in photoshop, etc... used judiciously it can
be effective, but is often beat to death.

Russ

On 4/16/07, Fernando Terrazzino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi PDMLers,
>
> I recently enabled myself with a 21/3.2 and gave it a walk on
> Saturday. Shot this, and already have in my mind a list of reasons to
> like it and not to like it. Comments are welcome but a simple "like
> it" or "don't like it" will do.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=459316961&size=o
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Re: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL

[graywolf]

What is not forbidden is compulsory, didn't you know that?


Digital Image Studio wrote:

> 
> Does anyone really have to watch TV? Is it mandated in law?
> 

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Re: OT: Extremely retro

[Mark Cassino]

Nice shots - I'm not familiar with the Vest Pocket cameras, but that low 
contrast soft focused look is great.

- MCC

Mark Erickson wrote:
> For you old camera enthusiasts:  I reinvigorated my grandmother's old Kodak
> Vest Pocket Model B by having Jurgen Kreckel replace the disintegrated paper
> bellows (don't ask how much it cost). I just ran a roll of Efke 100 through
> it to see if it works. These pictures were taken early in April 2007 in the
> Sacramento area. I scanned a contact sheet, dust and all, and put the better
> shots into a little web page:
> 
> http://www.westerickson.net/vestpocketmodelb
> 
> It's kind of a refreshing change from worrying about whether to stay with my
> *ist-Ds or upgrade to  a K10D.
> 
> Enjoy,
> 
> Mark
> 
> 


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Re: Blogging soon...

[Digital Image Studio]

On 20/04/07, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can not imagine why anyone would want to do a blog. Of course I can
> not imagine why my journal, when I was doing it, was getting 3000 hits a
> month either. Maybe I should do a podcast then thousands of people could
> listen to me talk to myself...

They obviously don't have HDTVs ;-)

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Re: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL

[Digital Image Studio]

On 20/04/07, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Guys, here's the key, get as many channels as you can
> and get a DVR/TIVO and learn how to use it. you will
> then go from the old way, having to watch the "garbage that happens to
> be on at the moment" to the "Best of ALL TV being shown on all channels"
> and be able to watch the BEST OF whenever you feel like
> it, not on somebody elses network schedule, the difference
> between these two methods in quality of what you watch
> and convience of when you watch it is beyond desription.
> SUPERMEGABLOWOUT might decribe the comparison...

Does anyone really have to watch TV? Is it mandated in law?

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Re: Need help deciding between k100d or k10d

[AlexG]

Thanks for all the responses so far, keep-em coming.

The K100d is almost the same size as the *ist models. The grip has
been redesigned (different profile) and is also slightly thicker,
maybe by 8-10mm. The rest looks the same.

I can relate to the kinked up right hand (no, not for *that* reason)
after shooting for a while. In my case the DL gives me nowhere to put
my pinky. It gets curled up underneath and is very uncomfortable.

Ok, knowing there are other options for batteries helps eliminate the issue.
Pentaprism is still a biggie. I HATE the DL's VF.

The question now is, is it worth an extra 400 bucks? 400 bucks that
can be spent buying... additional lenses?

I have a lot of expensive hobbies. My road bike cost me quite a bit
(and that's me picking and choosing EVERYTHING. Saved over a grand
doing it that way.) I spend way too much on computer crap. I like
higher-end audio, etc. So far NONE of these hobbies has had as much
capacity to financially ruin as cameras.

All that to say that i have no problem spending money, but I am still
a student with a part time job, so 400 bucks saved in the body makes
all the difference at the end of the day.

Question to go along with the above: Do microprism/split circle focus
screens help mf in the case of the DL? Or is the VF too dim for these
to be effective?

Alex

On 4/19/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No, they're slightly larger.  But I think they're slightly lighter.
> (I'm too lazy to look it up).
>
> J. C. O'Connell wrote:
> > Are the K100D & K110D the same size/weight as the istDS?
> > jco
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > Paul
> > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 5:54 PM
> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> > Subject: Re: Need help deciding between k100d or k10d
> >
> >
> > I have a K10D and much preferred the size and ergonomics of the ist*DS
> > which i assume is like the K100D. The size of the K10D actually puts me
> > off using it.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > AlexG wrote:
> >
> >> Hi guys,
> >>
> >> I have been quite annoyed at all the low-light shots that I had to
> >> delete because of slight camera shake. While I'd love to have the use
> >> of a tripod, I A- Don't have one and B- wouldn't bring it with me if I
> >>
> >
> >
> >> did, so I've decided that shake reduction is a feature worth having.
> >>
> >> Also the JPEGs out of the DL are only satisfactory under very specific
> >>
> >
> >
> >> conditions. The k100d and k10d are both much better from what I've
> >> seen.
> >>
> >> I currently have an *ist DL, with 18-55 and 50-200 lenses. My M42
> >> 50mm/1.4 is currently sitting on ebay, because I suck at focusing when
> >>
> >
> >
> >> the light is low.
> >>
> >> Anyway, I am in a bit of a pickle. I am hesitating between k100d and
> >> k10d, the former being about half the cost of the k10d makes it
> >> extremely attractive right now.
> >>
> >> Here are the advantages of each, as I see them.
> >>
> >> K100d:
> >> CHEAP!!
> >> Lower noise
> >> Up to iso3200
> >> Better dynamic range than k10d (as measured in raw by
> >> Imaging-Resource) AA Batteries
> >>
> >> K10d:
> >> 10MP makes for an extra 800x600 of breathing room when cropping
> >> Pentaprism viewfinder SSD/SSM/USM in-lens focus compatibility
> >> (==future-proof) Excellent firmware (customizable white balance
> >> presets, mtf priority, adjustable autoiso range, hyperprogram, etc)
> >>
> >> Plan is to sell the DL, body-only for 250-300 on ebay, as it is almost
> >>
> >
> >
> >> new (2100 pics vs the 17000 that seems to be the norm here :) )
> >>
> >> I will get the FA50/1.4 at the time of purchase.
> >>
> >> I have been concerned about the k10d's image quality, both from a
> >> noise and 'banding' perspective. Proprietary li-ion batteries piss me
> >> off because they cost so much to replace.
> >>
> >> But the pentaprism looks gd. As do some of the pictures
> >> I've seen. And SSM seems to be the proper solution to the pentax SLR
> >> slow autofocus syndrome, though this has yet to be verified. The
> >> lenses (DA*) seem to be very nice, and quite fast compared to the
> >> current DA zooms so they'd be nice to upgrade to.
> >>
> >> If I get the k100d, i can get SR RIGHT NOW and worry about a
> >> super-high-end camera in a year's time when the k10d's successor comes
> >>
> >
> >
> >> out.
> >>
> >> Anyway, I am thoroughly confused and I apologize for being a windbag
> >> in this thread. I realize this has probably been debated ad nausea,
> >> but I need some help to push me off the fence in either direction.
> >>
> >> Alex
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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Re: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL systemDVD's

[graywolf]

They just spend millions lobbying for them, like all the other special 
interest groups. Me I wish I had come up with that 3rd brake light and 
got it legislated into law. Talk about a way to make money. Then there 
are the insurance companies that have gotten most states to pass a law 
that you have to buy their product. How about the law that made it 
illegal to import those VCR's that cut out the commercials. You are 
being pretty naive, Norm.

-graywolf

Norm Baugher wrote:
> I didn't know the movie industry could legislate laws to help them with 
> their movie release timing...
> Norm

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Re: PESO: Limbo

[Boris Liberman]

You know what, guys, I think this is a really fine photograph. It is 
just very unusual, that's all... I dared tilt my head a bit to the right 
and then had a look. I really liked what I saw. Instead of struggling 
with point of view and other compositional difficulties, Fernando 
chooses simply not to include the elements he did not want in the frame. 
So tilting is necessary - tilting it will be.

I think I like it. Rendered nicely as well.

Boris



Fernando Terrazzino wrote:
> Hi PDMLers,
> 
> I recently enabled myself with a 21/3.2 and gave it a walk on
> Saturday. Shot this, and already have in my mind a list of reasons to
> like it and not to like it. Comments are welcome but a simple "like
> it" or "don't like it" will do.
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=459316961&size=o
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Re: PESO -- Fishin' at Sunset

[Boris Liberman]

Peter, it almost perfectly looks like a certain spot just 30 min drive 
from my place... Are you sure you haven't been teleported there? ;-).

I have one major piece of critique to spill out here ;-). The way the 
fishing rod (right word?) is directed - it seems wrong to me. Although 
it is balanced nicely with the direction to which the little ship is 
sailing, yet it does not make me feel that the shot is about fishing, 
rather about sunset.

Just my cents.

Boris


P. J. Alling wrote:
> Not me but I did make the image.
> 
> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO_--_fishinatsunset.html
> 
> Technical Data:
> 
> Pentax *ist-Ds ISO 800 % 1/5 sec. 
> smc Pentax 43mm f1.9 Limited @ f3.5
> 
> Notes:  Hand held braced against stone pier IIRC.
> 
> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
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Re: PESO, Beachy head

[Boris Liberman]

Andy, I should say that personally I rather dislike the fact that the 
sun looks very much like the aperture of your lens. For some reason I 
prefer round rendering of this very object ;-). However the rendering is 
good and most definitely you captured the mood with this shot, so you 
have my thumbs up here ;-).

Boris



drew wrote:
> Sunset this evening at Beachy head...
> 
> http://www.rileyelf.free-online.co.uk/peso2/
> 
> Hope you like...
> 
> Andy.
> 
> 
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Re: PESO -- Aiplane at Dusk

[Boris Liberman]

Well, it works indeed.


Mike Hamilton wrote:
> http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/2007/04/15/airplane-at-dusk/
> 
> K10D, DA70, iso100.
> 
> Comments, critiques welcome!  Enjoy!
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Another Minarets Shot

[Mark Erickson]

Paul's Minarets picture inspired me to dig into my archives and do some work
on a shot I took last fall.  I grew up on the east side of the southern
Sierra Nevada and hiked, fished, and skied a lot in the mountains between
Lone Pine and Mammoth.  In high school I skied Mammoth 20-30 days per year,
so the Minarets and Mts. Ritter and Banner were familiar sights.  After an
absence of more than a decade when I went back last fall and took a bunch of
pictures.

The URLs below link to a composite made from two shots taken with my *ist-Ds
and FA 77 Ltd lens hand-held at F/8.  Man, that lens is sharp!  The sky was
an crisp, pure blue with no clouds--not exactly Ansel Adams' most favored
condition for dramatic mountain scenes.  To make things a little more
interesting I went black and white with a real emphasis on red to darken the
sky.  The originals were taken RAW.  The only other processing I did was to
stitch the photos together with Photoshop and apply a little Smart Sharpen.
Apologies in advance to those without 1280-pixel wide monitors.

http://www.westerickson.net/mark/misc/MinaretsRitterBannerMedium.jpg

The large is the full size version if you want to pixel peep.  I don't think
that the Bayer pattern de-mosiac algorithms do very well with really fine
detail like pine needles.  A Foveon sensor or dedicated black and white
camera would have probably done much better...

http://www.westerickson.net/mark/misc/MinaretsRitterBannerLarge.jpg

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Re: PESO: Grace Times Three

[Boris Liberman]

Paul, my favorite is the second shot. It has so much more emotion in it.

Boris

Paul Stenquist wrote:
> Nothing going on here. I've got a few. All with the SMC Pentax  
> 85/1.8. The first one was yesterday. The second two were shot this  
> afternoon.
> 
> Grace does lipstick for the first time:
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5853141
> 
> Tough Day. Grace goes to Grandma. A little under the weather I think.
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5853134
> 
> Sleeping Beauty. Eventually she took a nap.
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5853129&size=lg
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Re: Blogging soon...

[graywolf]

I can not imagine why anyone would want to do a blog. Of course I can 
not imagine why my journal, when I was doing it, was getting 3000 hits a 
month either. Maybe I should do a podcast then thousands of people could 
listen to me talk to myself...

-graywolf


Doug Brewer wrote:
> On Apr 19, 2007, at 8:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> Except when they  happen to be decent writers that are blogging  
>> what are
>> essentially articles that  might be good enough to actually be  
>> published
>> somewhere.
>>
>> Marnie aka Doe  :-)
> 
> I know you're being nice, and I thank you (um, if you're talking  
> about me...), but I do work hard on my entries, probably harder than  
> I do at making photos.
> 
> Look, I know there are a whole bunch of smug blogs, and snarky ones,   
> just plain bad ones,  and all sorts, but if you care to look around,  
> there are some very talented people out there putting out some damn  
> fine work. Many just choose to have total control over their work,  
> rather than hand it over to a magazine or whatever. They're using the  
> power of the Internet to get the audience, same as photographers,  
> musicians, designers, any number of vocations.
> 
> It just seems quite silly to me to dismiss all blogs as something  
> inferior.
> 
> Doug Brewer
> http://www.drivingtheflies.com
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Epson V700 resolution tests - 645 film

[Mark Cassino]

> --- Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>
>> There is certainly a gain in resolution going to the
>> 6400 ppi scans  
>> albeit at a big price in disk space ... the 16bit
>> grayscale TIFF file  
>> grows from 73.3 Mbytes to 293.3 Mbytes.
>>
>> Comments?

Can't say without seeing "actual pixels" but the scanner certainly 
sounds impressive. I may look at getting one to replace my aging Epson 3200.

The files are big but they don't sound unwieldy. Color 16 bit 6x7 scans 
at 3200 dpi are in the 325 mb range - I used to work on those on an 
Athlon XP 2800 and it wasn't horrible.

One comment - do you need to scan at 6400 ppi? there are two ways of 
looking at a larger film format - one is that you can make humongous 
prints that look as good as moderate sized prints made from 35mm film. 
The other is that you can make moderate size prints that look much 
better than prints the same size made from 35mm film because they are 
enlarged less - less grain, etc.

So - looking at the quality of a 6400 dpi scan is one measure, but 
looking at an 11 x 14 print from the 645 (which may be scanned at a much 
lower resolution) is another.

Just a thought -

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RE: OT - for those of you who have DVDequipthatcan playPAL systemDVD's

[David Savage]

At 06:33 AM 20/04/2007, J. C. O'Connell" wrote:
>Ah, but I dont watch the HDTV, I watch the shows and films.
>When you watch a crappy old analog "TV" you ARE
>watching the TV. Its like listening to a boom box
>vs listening to a high end audio system. In one
>case your listening to a device and in the other
>case your listening to the music.
>jco

What a load of pompous nonsense.

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Re: Blogging soon...

[Doug Brewer]

On Apr 19, 2007, at 8:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Except when they  happen to be decent writers that are blogging  
> what are
> essentially articles that  might be good enough to actually be  
> published
> somewhere.
>
> Marnie aka Doe  :-)

I know you're being nice, and I thank you (um, if you're talking  
about me...), but I do work hard on my entries, probably harder than  
I do at making photos.

Look, I know there are a whole bunch of smug blogs, and snarky ones,   
just plain bad ones,  and all sorts, but if you care to look around,  
there are some very talented people out there putting out some damn  
fine work. Many just choose to have total control over their work,  
rather than hand it over to a magazine or whatever. They're using the  
power of the Internet to get the audience, same as photographers,  
musicians, designers, any number of vocations.

It just seems quite silly to me to dismiss all blogs as something  
inferior.

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Re: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPALsystemDVD's

[John Francis]

On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 08:47:38PM -0400, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
> > you guys are not really with it, there are hundreds of networks
> > showing 1000's of programs a month, so there still are tons
> > of good shows, movies, and events available. NO, its
> > not all good, probably mostly not good, but with that much programming,
> > I have
> > no problem finding more than enough to view with
> > my DVR. Hell, VH1 Classics alone could fill a major
> > portion of my viewing time and thats only one
> > channel!
>   ... so what sort of dollar figure (per month) is required for a 
> "network-blessed" DVR High-def experience?  Just curious.  My homebrew 
> mythtv box costs me whatever electricity is to run it...
> 
> -Cory

The full satellite package from DirecTV, except for the extra sports
channels, runs something like $100 a month, plus an extra $10 to get
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Re: Blogging soon...

[Mark Cassino]

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> On Apr 19, 2007, at 5:01 PM, Mike Hamilton wrote:

> I write the HTML, then toss the pictures and the HTML on the same web  
> server a blog would go on. What's the difference, other than that I  
> don't append blog to photo?

My personal experience is that a blogging engine will get you much more 
exposure than a static HTML website.

I use both. My website was originally set up as a gallery based, static 
html site, but I never got around to updating it so it was languinshing 
with jsut a few photos in the galleries.

So last year I started to just stream small galleries into the site as I 
shot them. But then I also installed a blogging tool and started posting 
articles in the blog, usually accompanying updates to the stream of 
photos in the static website.

For some reason the blog is much more effective with search engines.

Case in point: I used to post essays on my static HTML site. As an 
experiment I moved some of those essays, word for word the same, to the 
blog. The blogged versions generally did much better in search engine 
rankings - moving from being buried dozens of pages back in google to 
the first page or two in many cases.  The only exceptions were essays on 
the static HTML page that had a good number of links to them from other 
sites.

I guess its the syndication - RSS or whatever - but for some reason the 
search engines really hone in on blogs. (Part of that is also just 
common sense too - a blogging platform encourages you to write a lot 
more about photos etc. so there are more words to index.) Cripes - For a 
while my little review of the K10D was appearing in the top 10 results 
on Yahoo if you searched for "K10D Review". It was slightly lower if you 
searched for "Pentax K10D review." I didn't even have a picture of the 
camera in the review - though a picture of an Argoflex E _is_ there.

It all depends on the goals of your website. If you want to reach as 
broad an audience as possible a blogging engine will make a big 
difference. I'm not real big on the 'social networking' aspect of a blog 
(I had anonymous comments disabled until recently) but the ability to 
get feedback is possibly also useful. I find that the blog, like the 
HTML website, generates the most constructive feedback in the form of 
private emails vs public posts.

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Re: OT - for those of you who have DVD equipthat can playPALsystemDVD's

[John Francis]

On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 08:40:48PM -0400, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
> > Sir, the typical Blu-Ray/HDDVD buyer is not
> > going to still use an older HD set that
> > doesnt have HDMI interface anyway,
> > As good as they were, none of the
> > older HD sets that dont have HDMI input
> > are as good as the best HD sets being
> > made at the time of BLURAY HDDVD
> > introductions and later. The bottom line, is
> > you wont even hardly see any
> > differece between blu-ray/HDDVD
> > on those older sets compared to
> > upconverted DVD if the set is
> > so old it doesnt have HDMI.
> >
>   I cry bullshit on this.  CRT's have been capable of reproducing 
> 1920x1080 (i.e. 1080i, 1080p) and *certainly* 1280x720 (i.e. 720p) for 
> many years.  Many "HD-ready" sets sold withing the past 12-18 months do 
> not have HDMI-capable inputes.

Well, my (non-HDMI) HDTV might not be as good as "the best HD sets
being made at the time of BLURAY HDDVD introduction", but it (and
many other sets of that vintage) are quite capable of doing 1080i
and 720p - that's what over-the-air HDTV can do.

And while it's true that I won't see a difference between upconverted
DVD and blu-ray/HDDVD on my set, I sure as hell would be able to see
a difference if I could get a 720p or 1080i component signal from a
HDDVD player.  But as the manufacturers won't provide such a signal,
the argument is moot.

Blu-Ray/HDDVD have shot themselves in the foot; the early-adopters
of HDTV (back in the days when the price of entry was $5000 and up)
aren't quite ready yet to drop another few $K on a system upgrade
(genuine 1080p LCD TVs are still pretty expensive, although the
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Re: PESO added more to the page

[J]

Thank you for looking..Joe

At 06:51 PM 4/19/07, you wrote:
>Joe,
>
>Really nice work here.
>
>Two favs are Out of My Way and Last Hope Last Out.
>
>-Brendan
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> > anyone wants to
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Re: PESO added more to the page

[J]

Thanks for looking..Joe


At 08:27 PM 4/19/07, you wrote:
>Looks like a bot of "be there" photos.  Lots of nice work.
>Thanks for showing
>CW
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Re: Blogging soon...

[Doug Brewer]

On Apr 19, 2007, at 8:01 PM, Mike Hamilton wrote:

> On 4/19/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On Apr 19, 2007, at 4:11 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:
>>
>>> ... Or is this one of those, "I don't do it, so it couldn't
>>> possibly be
>>> worth anything" things?
>>
>> For me it's one of those "I don't do it because I can't imagine
>> spending that much more time doing that when I'm already wasting this
>> much time reading the PDML." ]'-)
>
> My website is setup as a photoblog, and I've found it an invaluable
> tool for developing my skill as a photographer.  It's simply a venue
> for artistic output.  Some people use one for writing, I use mine for
> photography.  I don't know where I would exhibit the bulk of my work
> otherwise!! :)
>
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Mike's right. It's another avenue for creativity, one I happen to  
enjoy a great deal.

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Re: Epson V700 resolution tests - 645 film

[Jack Davis]

Anxious to see the 35mm scan comparisons. Put them up against a 100 ISO
K10D image having received one click of "Auto Sharpen".

Jack
--- Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The other day I posted a Pentax 645 photo made with the 35mm lens,  
> scanned with a new Epson V700 scanner:
>http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/19b.htm
> 
> One person mentioned that running it at 8x sampling would help  
> improve resolution, another person mentioned that setting the  
> negative holder to alternative heights showed a big improvement. I  
> decided to do a set of experimental scans with this negative and  
> Vuescan trying these two things, in combination, and trying my  
> original 3200ppi setting against the 6400 ppi setting:
> 
>http://homepage.mac.com/godders/V700rez-detail-snips.jpg
> 
> Conclusion:
> It does seem that there is a small gain in resolution with the feet  
> removed, and again doing the 8x sampling on the 3200 ppi scans, or am
>  
> I kidding myself?
> 
> There is certainly a gain in resolution going to the 6400 ppi scans  
> albeit at a big price in disk space ... the 16bit grayscale TIFF file
>  
> grows from 73.3 Mbytes to 293.3 Mbytes.
> 
> Comments?
> 
> I'm going to try a 35mm negative in the V700 vs the Nikon LS40 and  
> Minolta Scan Dual II next ...
> 
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Re: Blogging soon...

[Mike Hamilton]

On 4/19/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Apr 19, 2007, at 5:31 PM, Mike Hamilton wrote:
>
> > On 4/19/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Apr 19, 2007, at 5:01 PM, Mike Hamilton wrote:
> >>
> >>> My website is setup as a photoblog, and I've found it an invaluable
> >>> tool for developing my skill as a photographer.  It's simply a venue
> >>> for artistic output.  Some people use one for writing, I use mine
> >>> for
> >>> photography.  I don't know where I would exhibit the bulk of my work
> >>> otherwise!! :)
> >>
> >> I write the HTML, then toss the pictures and the HTML on the same web
> >> server a blog would go on. What's the difference, other than that I
> >> don't append blog to photo?
> >
> > Minor differences, really.  Usually a "Previous Photo" and "Next
> > Photo",
>
> Got those ...
>
> > the philosophy behind it (posting a continuous series of
> > images that don't belong to a specific theme or gallery),
>
> That's my PAW set at
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/
>
> > comments
> > embedded in the post...
>
> I can add comments as desired, should I want to ...
>
> > using "blog" software such as WordPress or
> > MT...
>
> I use a code editor (BBEdit), same one I used to use for writing
> software. It includes templates for every commonly used HTML
> construct and is fully scriptable...
>
> > Minor differences, really.  Regardless, both formats work and serve
> > the purposes intended.  Publishing and providing a venue for images.
>
> :-) So maybe I can call mine a photoblog with an index page... ;-)

Looks like a duck, sounds like a duck... :)

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Re: Epson V700 resolution tests - 645 film

[Brendan MacRae]

The res is definitely better at the 6400 dpi
resolution. But the file sizes are getting big.

My question is, are you pulling out the grain, as
well? One of the things I've noticed when scanning
black and white is that going full tilt boogie for
resolution ends up giving me detail but with grain.
This is with the Coolscan 9000 ED. So, I generally
won't go more than 2000 ppi when scanning tri-x or
plus-x negs (the guy who runs the local lab in town
doesn't scan b/w at more than 1000 ppi, or so he tells
me, and he has the same setup as me). I haven't had
the oppurtunity to scan other kinds of b/w neg yet.
However, I will be trying some Fuji neopan 120
sometime in the near future. 

Just curious.

-Brendan
--- Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The other day I posted a Pentax 645 photo made with
> the 35mm lens,  
> scanned with a new Epson V700 scanner:
>   
> http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/19b.htm
> 
> One person mentioned that running it at 8x sampling
> would help  
> improve resolution, another person mentioned that
> setting the  
> negative holder to alternative heights showed a big
> improvement. I  
> decided to do a set of experimental scans with this
> negative and  
> Vuescan trying these two things, in combination, and
> trying my  
> original 3200ppi setting against the 6400 ppi
> setting:
> 
>   
>
http://homepage.mac.com/godders/V700rez-detail-snips.jpg
> 
> Conclusion:
> It does seem that there is a small gain in
> resolution with the feet  
> removed, and again doing the 8x sampling on the 3200
> ppi scans, or am  
> I kidding myself?
> 
> There is certainly a gain in resolution going to the
> 6400 ppi scans  
> albeit at a big price in disk space ... the 16bit
> grayscale TIFF file  
> grows from 73.3 Mbytes to 293.3 Mbytes.
> 
> Comments?
> 
> I'm going to try a 35mm negative in the V700 vs the
> Nikon LS40 and  
> Minolta Scan Dual II next ...
> 
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Re: PESO - Alley

[Brendan MacRae]

--- Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On Apr 19, 2007, at 5:24 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote:
> 
> > It's been so long since I originally set the
> > parameters for my ColorVision spyder that I can't
> > remember the why's and wherefore's of my settings.
> > Much of it was probably recommended settings based
> on
> > the controls of the monitor.
> >
> > Your gray scale looks good on my MAC, though. All
> of
> > the strips stand out (just as they do in the
> > calibration process with the Spyder). My prints
> also
> > look good compared to my monitor but especially so
> > when I use the correct profiles I created with the
> > ColorVision spectrocolorimeter.
> 
> That implies that we're seeing pretty much the same
> thing on our  
> screens ... :-)
> 
> Godfrey
> 


Exactly. There shouldn't be much difference. And
you're not the only one who thinks it's dark ;-]

I converted this one using the RGB -> LAB -> lightness
channel to greyscale conversion. Added a dup layer,
blended them, adjusted opacity of the blend then
painted through to the lighter areas I wanted to come
through.

It's a cool technique. It usually works much better
than my dodge/burn work and better than my simple
color channel conversions.

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Re: Paw LV-4

[Brendan MacRae]

David,

Valley of Fire, right?

Here's a couple I took there back in 1990. Scanned
from Kodak Ektar 100 negative film.

I think this one is of the mountain right behind that
beehive (the area that you can't see in your shot):

http://www.primelensphoto.com/mountains.jpg

This is one from inside the valley proper:

http://www.primelensphoto.com/outcroping.jpg

-Brendan


--- David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> One from the last stop. We were doing well for time,
> so he made
> anextra stop for us.
> 
> Rock formations called the Beehives. Had a hard time
> getting a good
> angle on these. We had to hide people walking
> around.
> 
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5870546
> 
> K10D, 16-45 f4, 67mm Polarizer, DNG format,CS1
> adjustment.
> 
> I assigned sRGB, but it still looks to bright from
> the conversion.
> 
> Sorry
> 
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Re: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL

[Paul Stenquist]

I watch television because it's my job. I have to be in synch with  
popular culture, and I have to watch the commercials that are airing.  
I need to see what's being broadcast at its best. I subscribe to both  
satellite providers and cable providers, and I view them on the  
largest HD Plasma television available and listen on 5+1 surround  
sound. But it's my job. I try to avoid the really awful network  
programming, but I know when new campaigns will launch, and I watch  
the ratings toppers to see what might synch with them. I've had to  
watch American Idol to see the Ford campaign, but the sound and the  
video were so well done that it wasn't really painful. In addition, I  
watch movies that catch my interest on DVD, and I follow some sports.  
Might as well. The equipment is already in place.

BTW, I'm back at work. Writing on a number of accounts at an agency  
called Doner. But I have other plans.
Paul
On Apr 19, 2007, at 8:07 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

> Hey, Norm, I'm pretty much like Godders and mark.  No cable, an  
> old, old
> set used only for watching DVDs and one PBS station, which is  
> pretty much
> all the reception I could get from where I was located.  'Twas just  
> fine
> for 20+ years.  Now, because of my new location,  I can get several
> stations, and guess what, for the most part they are of little  
> interest.
>
> Shel
>
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Norm Baugher
>
>> Do you have running water or did you just shoot your TV one day?
>> Norm
>>
>> Mark Roberts wrote:
>>> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>>>
>>>
 I have time to watch about one-three hour's worth of television a
 week

>>>
>>> I have no idea how much time I have to spare for watching TV - we  
>>> don't
>>> have a television. haven't had one since about 1988
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Re: PESO - Alley

[Brendan MacRae]

I do, too. I also think the black page makes the photo
appear even darker.

Thanks.

-Brendan
--- "Maris V. Lidaka Sr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> It is a bit dark, but I like this particular image
> being dark.
> 
> PC with a calibrated (2 days ago most recently) NEC
> LCD.
> 
> Maris
> 
> Brendan MacRae wrote:
> > It may be a bit dark, but I like it.
> > 
> > I think my monitor is a little warm compared to
> yours.
> > I also have the 23" cinema display. Mine is set at
> > gamma 2.2 and a 6500K white point.
> > 
> > If I remember, isn't yours a tad cooler? I wonder
> if
> > that would make any difference.
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Re: OT - for those of you whohaveDVD equipthat can playPAL systemDVD's

[P. J. Alling]

It'll break...

Tom C wrote:
> What if I pull up dumbly?  What then?
>
>
> Tom C.
>
>
>   
>> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> systemDVD's
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>>
>> Grasp the rewind knob, pull up smartly.
>>
>> Peter Barry wrote:
>> 
>>> How do you open the back to load a film in the pentax super me its doing 
>>>   
>> my
>> 
>>> head in?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
 From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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 Subject: RE: OT - for those of you whohaveDVD equipthat can playPAL
 systemDVD's
 Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 16:15:51 -0600

 This started John, with your following statement with reference to 
 
>> region
>> 
 code free DVD players :

 J. C. O'Connell wrote:

 "Those are out there but they are illegal."
 jco

 You then wrote:

 "It is illegal to buy, sell or own non-region 1 DVD players
 in or to north america from everything I have ever heard.
 Ever wonder why you cant just go buy one at Circuit Shitty?"
 jco

 You have yet to back up these statements, which were presented as 
 
>> factual,
>> 
 with anything other than more of your own words.

 By those statements, you implicitly called all of us that have bought 
 
>> or
>> 
 owned non-region 1 DVD players in North America, law-breakers and
 scoff-laws.  We take umbrage with that and are awaiting clarification 
 
>> so
>> 
 that we can either continue using these devices with a clean conscience 
 
>> or
>> 
 can devote the wretched things to destruction.

 Tom C.



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Re: Blogging soon...

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Apr 19, 2007, at 5:31 PM, Mike Hamilton wrote:

> On 4/19/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On Apr 19, 2007, at 5:01 PM, Mike Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>> My website is setup as a photoblog, and I've found it an invaluable
>>> tool for developing my skill as a photographer.  It's simply a venue
>>> for artistic output.  Some people use one for writing, I use mine  
>>> for
>>> photography.  I don't know where I would exhibit the bulk of my work
>>> otherwise!! :)
>>
>> I write the HTML, then toss the pictures and the HTML on the same web
>> server a blog would go on. What's the difference, other than that I
>> don't append blog to photo?
>
> Minor differences, really.  Usually a "Previous Photo" and "Next
> Photo",

Got those ...

> the philosophy behind it (posting a continuous series of
> images that don't belong to a specific theme or gallery),

That's my PAW set at

http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/

> comments
> embedded in the post...

I can add comments as desired, should I want to ...

> using "blog" software such as WordPress or
> MT...

I use a code editor (BBEdit), same one I used to use for writing  
software. It includes templates for every commonly used HTML  
construct and is fully scriptable...

> Minor differences, really.  Regardless, both formats work and serve
> the purposes intended.  Publishing and providing a venue for images.

:-) So maybe I can call mine a photoblog with an index page... ;-)


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Epson V700 resolution tests - 645 film

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

The other day I posted a Pentax 645 photo made with the 35mm lens,  
scanned with a new Epson V700 scanner:
   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/19b.htm

One person mentioned that running it at 8x sampling would help  
improve resolution, another person mentioned that setting the  
negative holder to alternative heights showed a big improvement. I  
decided to do a set of experimental scans with this negative and  
Vuescan trying these two things, in combination, and trying my  
original 3200ppi setting against the 6400 ppi setting:

   http://homepage.mac.com/godders/V700rez-detail-snips.jpg

Conclusion:
It does seem that there is a small gain in resolution with the feet  
removed, and again doing the 8x sampling on the 3200 ppi scans, or am  
I kidding myself?

There is certainly a gain in resolution going to the 6400 ppi scans  
albeit at a big price in disk space ... the 16bit grayscale TIFF file  
grows from 73.3 Mbytes to 293.3 Mbytes.

Comments?

I'm going to try a 35mm negative in the V700 vs the Nikon LS40 and  
Minolta Scan Dual II next ...

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Re: Any body selling or planning to sell his/her DA16-45

[Stan Halpin]

I am selling mine (was going to list it FS tomorrow night.)

stan

On Apr 19, 2007, at 11:51 AM, Thibouille wrote:

> To complement my father's newly aquired DL, he needs a (moderate) WA
> which a 28-80 is definitely not.
>
> However I would gladly give him my DA 18-55 and buy myself a DA 16-45.
> The thing is: price of it new (about 450 euros here) is not reasonable
> considering I just sign the contract to buy a house. So I'm looking
> for one in second hand.
>
> The coming 16-50/2.8 might help some to sell their 16-45 ?? :)
>
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Re: Blogging

[Mark Roberts]

Here's a great blog to check out, the PDML's own Juan Buhler:
http://photoblog.jbuhler.com/



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Re: Blogging soon...

[Mark Roberts]

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

>I write the HTML, then toss the pictures and the HTML on the same web  
>server a blog would go on. What's the difference, other than that I  
>don't append blog to photo?

I think you've identified the key to the blogging boom here: It's a way 
for people who *don't* know anything about HTML or web design to have 
web pages.

There are plenty in this category that offer really valuable 
information. http://strobist.blogspot.com/ comes to mind.



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Re: PESO - Alley

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Apr 19, 2007, at 5:24 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote:

> It's been so long since I originally set the
> parameters for my ColorVision spyder that I can't
> remember the why's and wherefore's of my settings.
> Much of it was probably recommended settings based on
> the controls of the monitor.
>
> Your gray scale looks good on my MAC, though. All of
> the strips stand out (just as they do in the
> calibration process with the Spyder). My prints also
> look good compared to my monitor but especially so
> when I use the correct profiles I created with the
> ColorVision spectrocolorimeter.

That implies that we're seeing pretty much the same thing on our  
screens ... :-)

Godfrey

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Re: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL

[Digital Image Studio]

On 20/04/07, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> NO, the major problem is most people think its still
> too expensive ( when they dont even know the price )
> or havent actually watched anything in HD like
> a good movie from beginning to end. HDTV is
> a no brainer home entertainment major improvement
> for all of mankind, just like silent movies, radio, TV,
> color TV, & home video were and are...Not some
> government mandated "cash grab" that the masses
> have to "suffer" thru.

It's got nothing to do with expense for some of us, I could find the
cash to buy the latest and greatest but I can't be bothered as it's
just not that interesting.

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Re: PESO - Alley

[Maris V. Lidaka Sr.]

It is a bit dark, but I like this particular image being dark.

PC with a calibrated (2 days ago most recently) NEC LCD.

Maris

Brendan MacRae wrote:
> It may be a bit dark, but I like it.
> 
> I think my monitor is a little warm compared to yours.
> I also have the 23" cinema display. Mine is set at
> gamma 2.2 and a 6500K white point.
> 
> If I remember, isn't yours a tad cooler? I wonder if
> that would make any difference.

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Re: OT - for those of you whohaveDVD equipthat can playPAL systemDVD's

[Norm Baugher]

Yeah, I even went to the police station today and turned myself in, they 
sent me home. So much for being an honest citizen...
Norm

Tom C wrote:
> You see, all us honest citizens wanted was a simple apology for being 
> maligned as having broken the law. :-)
>
> I take your statement "NO, it may be legal to own them here", below as such.
>
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Re: OT - for those of you who have DVD equipthatcanplayPALsystemDVD's

[Norm Baugher]

答复回覆?

J. C. O'Connell wrote:
> nope, not in this context, this post says quote :
>  
> "NOPE, I am pretty sure if you want to commercially sell
>   
>>> DVD players you have to get a licensing agreement.
>>> Ever see that little "DVD" logo? Guess what that means..
>>> jco
>>>   
>
> guess you cant read english either,
> jco
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Norm Baugher
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 8:48 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: OT - for those of you who have DVD
> equipthatcanplayPALsystemDVD's
>
>
> I'm sorry, didn't you say it was illegal to own a DVD player that was 
> outside your regionhmmm.
> Norm
>
> J. C. O'Connell wrote:
>   
>> cant you read english? I qualified it with "commercially"
>>
>> jco
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
>> Of Norm Baugher
>> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 5:43 PM
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Re: OT - for those of you who have DVD 
>> equipthatcanplayPALsystemDVD's
>>
>>
>> I can put one together in my garage and sell it to my fucking neighbor
>> 
>
>   
>> -
>>
>> what violation of the law am I committing and what agreements am I 
>> breaking? Norm (Hell is the impossibility of reason...)
>>
>> J. C. O'Connell wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> NOPE, I am pretty sure if you want to commercially sell
>>> DVD players you have to get a licensing agreement.
>>> Ever see that little "DVD" logo? Guess what that means..
>>> jco
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>>> Of Norm Baugher
>>>
>>>
>>> If I make a DVD player, I don't have to agree to shit. I can sell it
>>> to
>>> whoever the hell I want to.
>>> Norm
>>> (who believes some people slept in and missed the day they taught
>>> 
>>>   
>> logic)
>>   
>> 
>>> J. C. O'Connell wrote:
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
 I disagree because there are DVD hardware
 and software licensing issues and these
 region codings issues are part of those
 licensing AGREEMENTS.
 jco

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 
>
>   
 Of Mark Roberts

 Tom C wrote:
   
 
   
 
> I don't think it's a legal issue.  It's an issue of how the 
> industry has decided to market to us.
> 
>   
> 
>   
 This is true. The movie industry has convinced the makers of DVD
 players to cooperate with the "region" scheme (for the most part), 
 and
 
   
 
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
 likewise the major retailers, because they need each other to a 
 large extent.

 The convergent interests of these organizations make it beneficial
 for them to follow the region code scheme.

 Smaller businesses like world-import.com are willing to forego the
 cooperation of the movie industry so they're free to sell 
 multi-region
 
   
 
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
 players.

 The law doesn't enter into it.

   
 
   
 
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
>>   
>> 
>
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RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL

[J. C. O'Connell]

Guys, here's the key, get as many channels as you can
and get a DVR/TIVO and learn how to use it. you will
then go from the old way, having to watch the "garbage that happens to
be on at the moment" to the "Best of ALL TV being shown on all channels"
and be able to watch the BEST OF whenever you feel like
it, not on somebody elses network schedule, the difference
between these two methods in quality of what you watch
and convience of when you watch it is beyond desription.
SUPERMEGABLOWOUT might decribe the comparison...
jco

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Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 8:53 PM
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And Shel, I'm actually with you guys
Norm

Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> Hey, Norm, I'm pretty much like Godders and mark.  No cable, an old, 
> old set used only for watching DVDs and one PBS station, which is 
> pretty much all the reception I could get from where I was located.  
> 'Twas just fine for 20+ years.  Now, because of my new location,  I 
> can get several stations, and guess what, for the most part they are
of little interest.
>
> Shel
>
>
>
>   
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Norm Baugher
>> 
>
>   
>> Do you have running water or did you just shoot your TV one day? Norm
>>
>> Mark Roberts wrote:
>> 
>>> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
 I have time to watch about one-three hour's worth of television a
 week
 
 
>>> I have no idea how much time I have to spare for watching TV - we 
>>> don't
>>> have a television. haven't had one since about 1988
>>>   
>
>
>
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RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equipthatcanplayPALsystemDVD's

[J. C. O'Connell]

nope, not in this context, this post says quote :
 
"NOPE, I am pretty sure if you want to commercially sell
>> DVD players you have to get a licensing agreement.
>> Ever see that little "DVD" logo? Guess what that means..
>> jco

guess you cant read english either,
jco

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Norm Baugher
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equipthatcanplayPALsystemDVD's


I'm sorry, didn't you say it was illegal to own a DVD player that was 
outside your regionhmmm.
Norm

J. C. O'Connell wrote:
> cant you read english? I qualified it with "commercially"
>
> jco
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
> Of Norm Baugher
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 5:43 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: OT - for those of you who have DVD 
> equipthatcanplayPALsystemDVD's
>
>
> I can put one together in my garage and sell it to my fucking neighbor

> -
>
> what violation of the law am I committing and what agreements am I 
> breaking? Norm (Hell is the impossibility of reason...)
>
> J. C. O'Connell wrote:
>   
>> NOPE, I am pretty sure if you want to commercially sell
>> DVD players you have to get a licensing agreement.
>> Ever see that little "DVD" logo? Guess what that means..
>> jco
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>> Of Norm Baugher
>>
>>
>> If I make a DVD player, I don't have to agree to shit. I can sell it
>> to
>> whoever the hell I want to.
>> Norm
>> (who believes some people slept in and missed the day they taught
>> 
> logic)
>   
>> J. C. O'Connell wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> I disagree because there are DVD hardware
>>> and software licensing issues and these
>>> region codings issues are part of those
>>> licensing AGREEMENTS.
>>> jco
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

>>> Of Mark Roberts
>>>
>>> Tom C wrote:
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
 I don't think it's a legal issue.  It's an issue of how the 
 industry has decided to market to us.
 
   
 
>>> This is true. The movie industry has convinced the makers of DVD
>>> players to cooperate with the "region" scheme (for the most part), 
>>> and
>>> 
>>>   
>>   
>> 
>>> likewise the major retailers, because they need each other to a 
>>> large extent.
>>>
>>> The convergent interests of these organizations make it beneficial
>>> for them to follow the region code scheme.
>>>
>>> Smaller businesses like world-import.com are willing to forego the
>>> cooperation of the movie industry so they're free to sell 
>>> multi-region
>>> 
>>>   
>>   
>> 
>>> players.
>>>
>>> The law doesn't enter into it.
>>>
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
>>   
>> 
>
>
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Re: OT - for those of you whohaveDVD equipthat can playPAL systemDVD's

[Norm Baugher]

Currently, I'm wondering who is going to be liable for the tennis balls 
that are bouncing out of my HDTV. They are destroying my living room. 
Should I sue the content provider or the hardware manufacturer? 
Decisions, decisions. I must decide who is liable...the chatter monkeys 
in my head cannot agree...
Norm

J. C. O'Connell wrote:
> WHO THE HELL ARE YOU?, YOU HAVENT PROVIDED ANY EVIDENCE EITHER
> that it isnt a legal issue. I dont have
> any higher "burden of proof" on my statements than
> you do on yours.
>
>   
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RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL

[J. C. O'Connell]

You're full of doo doo. I have stated this before
and will state it again, people dont buy expensive gear
because they "THINK" its really good just because its "expensive",
they buy expensive gear because they KNOW its really good and
want it bad enough they are willing to pay "expensive price" to get it.
The horse
pulls the cart, the cart doesnt push the horse.


jco

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
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> NO, the major problem is most people think its still
> too expensive ( when they dont even know the price )
> or havent actually watched anything in HD like
> a good movie from beginning to end. HDTV is
> a no brainer home entertainment major improvement
> for all of mankind, just like silent movies, radio, TV,
> color TV, & home video were and are...Not some
> government mandated "cash grab" that the masses
> have to "suffer" thru.
> jco
>
The price for a true HD experience is still too much for the 
average joe.  Unfortunately, the roughly $1k necessary for a real HD set

(not a 720p/1080i "capable" set, but a true HD physical-pixel device) is

all the average person likely puts forth.  The $50-$100/mo necessary for

all the doodads that go with it (Cablecard, STB, DTV, etc) are still 
beyond most.  Most of the general population gets a HDTV set, connects
to 
their DVD player with an S-vid cable, and convinces themselves that the 
picture is "amazing" just because it cost them $1k-$2k to get it,
not 
because it actually *is*.

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Re: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL

[Norm Baugher]

And Shel, I'm actually with you guys
Norm

Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> Hey, Norm, I'm pretty much like Godders and mark.  No cable, an old, old
> set used only for watching DVDs and one PBS station, which is pretty much
> all the reception I could get from where I was located.  'Twas just fine
> for 20+ years.  Now, because of my new location,  I can get several
> stations, and guess what, for the most part they are of little interest.  
>
> Shel
>
>
>
>   
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Norm Baugher 
>> 
>
>   
>> Do you have running water or did you just shoot your TV one day?
>> Norm
>>
>> Mark Roberts wrote:
>> 
>>> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
 I have time to watch about one-three hour's worth of television a  
 week
 
 
>>> I have no idea how much time I have to spare for watching TV - we don't 
>>> have a television. haven't had one since about 1988
>>>   
>
>
>
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RE: Major enablement

[Bill Sawyer]

Thanks, Ken.  I agree on the light, it was mid-morning and really only
intended as a test.

And from the sound of it, I think Jim might be abler to carry that title on
his own...

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Nice catch Bill, although it would benefit from some better light.

Looks like metro Detroit is becoming the Pentax long lens capital!.


Kenneth Waller

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> Jim,
>
> I think that you will like the lens a lot, I've had mine for three years 
> or
> so. The lighter weight than the f4 version is a plus to me, as I
> occasionally hike a ways with it in a backpack to get where I want to use
> it. I carry it in a large photo backpack.  The poor positioning of the
> tripod mount is a problem, but not seriously so. I find it quite sharp,
> though it's not a good lens for moving subjects, due largely to the mount
> position, at least I don't think so. Mr. Robb has some experience with 
> it's
> use on a gimbaled head. Here's a shot taken at Kensington Metropark (I'm 
> in
> Livonia, BTW) with this lens, the 1.4x teleconverter with an ist D.
>
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5016800
>
> Congratulations, I know you'll like it, and for what it's worth, it sounds
> to me like you got a good price if the pictures do it justice.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Jim
> King
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 12:50 AM
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Subject: Major enablement
>
> After several years of searching I finally found and won an eBay auction
> (150111393342) for a Pentax A*600/5.6 lens in pristine condition.  I 
> wanted
> it for my lens collection which now includes all of the A-series glass
> except the A*1200/8, which I've never seen for sale.  It should be great 
> for
> long shots over Lake Erie from the front porch of our summer cottage.  It
> will be interesting to see how the SR of the K10D works with it - at a
> little over 3 Kg it might be marginally hand-holdable.  I suspect that it
> will spend more time on my HD tripod, however.
>
> This one was really hard to find - the only other time I saw one up for
> auction on eBay, I accidentally slept through the close of the auction and
> never got my bid in!  This one cost a bit more than the earlier one but
> seems to be in better condition (fingers crossed).
>
> There is also an FA*600/4 up on eBay currently. but the price just makes 
> my
> head spin!
>
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Re: OT - for those of you who have DVDequipthatcan playPAL systemDVD's

[Norm Baugher]

Rob, obviously you didn't get this question right on the HDTV license 
agreement test did you?
Norm

Digital Image Studio wrote:
> On 20/04/07, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> When you watch a crappy old analog "TV" you ARE
>> watching the TV. Its like listening to a boom box
>> vs listening to a high end audio system. In one
>> case your listening to a device and in the other
>> case your listening to the music.
>> 
>
> Oh I see, I wasn't aware of these rules, are they law?
>
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Re: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip thatcan playPALsystemDVD's

[William Robb]

Cory, you would be doing some of us a huge favour if you would leave the 
message attributes you are quoting from in your message body.
Thanks

William Robb



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Subject: RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip thatcan 
playPALsystemDVD's




>> you guys are not really with it, there are hundreds of networks
>> showing 1000's of programs a month, so there still are tons
>> of good shows, movies, and events available. NO, its
>> not all good, probably mostly not good, but with that much programming,
>> I have
>> no problem finding more than enough to view with
>> my DVR. Hell, VH1 Classics alone could fill a major
>> portion of my viewing time and thats only one
>> channel!
>  ... so what sort of dollar figure (per month) is required for a
> "network-blessed" DVR High-def experience?  Just curious.  My homebrew
> mythtv box costs me whatever electricity is to run it...
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RE: OT - for those of you whohaveDVD equipthat can playPAL systemDVD's

[J. C. O'Connell]

what is wrong with making money on a product? Its their freaking movies!
You dont have to buy them if you dont want them! you act like you have
some God given right to take away their ability to make as much
money as possible on thier products. That's their stuff, not yours.
you really dont have any right to tell them how to run their completely
legal businesses.
if you think its so great for them, buy some stock or start your own
studio.
jco

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systemDVD's


I think the difference is between:

There's a Federal, State or local law prohibiting me from making
,selling, 
or buying the media or players in question.

And

The major movie studios got together and forced the manufacturers of the

units and media to go along (probably contractually) with the idea of 
regions so the studios could drag out the releases of both films and
their 
DVDs so they could ALL make more money.

So, is it legal?
Who the fuck cares?

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RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPALsystemDVD's

[Cory Papenfuss]

> you guys are not really with it, there are hundreds of networks
> showing 1000's of programs a month, so there still are tons
> of good shows, movies, and events available. NO, its
> not all good, probably mostly not good, but with that much programming,
> I have
> no problem finding more than enough to view with
> my DVR. Hell, VH1 Classics alone could fill a major
> portion of my viewing time and thats only one
> channel!
... so what sort of dollar figure (per month) is required for a 
"network-blessed" DVR High-def experience?  Just curious.  My homebrew 
mythtv box costs me whatever electricity is to run it...

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Re: PAW - Boo!

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 4/19/2007 5:08:55 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5868563

Comments  always welcome!

cheers (and  thanks),
frank

==
Hehehehehe. Good one,  frank.

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Re: OT - for those of you who have DVD equipthatcanplayPALsystemDVD's

[Norm Baugher]

I'm sorry, didn't you say it was illegal to own a DVD player that was 
outside your regionhmmm.
Norm

J. C. O'Connell wrote:
> cant you read english? I qualified it with "commercially"
>
> jco
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Norm Baugher
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 5:43 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: OT - for those of you who have DVD
> equipthatcanplayPALsystemDVD's
>
>
> I can put one together in my garage and sell it to my fucking neighbor -
>
> what violation of the law am I committing and what agreements am I
> breaking? Norm (Hell is the impossibility of reason...)
>
> J. C. O'Connell wrote:
>   
>> NOPE, I am pretty sure if you want to commercially sell
>> DVD players you have to get a licensing agreement.
>> Ever see that little "DVD" logo? Guess what that means..
>> jco
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
>> Of Norm Baugher
>>
>>
>> If I make a DVD player, I don't have to agree to shit. I can sell it 
>> to
>> whoever the hell I want to.
>> Norm
>> (who believes some people slept in and missed the day they taught
>> 
> logic)
>   
>> J. C. O'Connell wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> I disagree because there are DVD hardware
>>> and software licensing issues and these
>>> region codings issues are part of those
>>> licensing AGREEMENTS.
>>> jco
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>>> Of Mark Roberts
>>>
>>> Tom C wrote:
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
 I don't think it's a legal issue.  It's an issue of how the industry
 has decided to market to us.
 
   
 
>>> This is true. The movie industry has convinced the makers of DVD 
>>> players to cooperate with the "region" scheme (for the most part), 
>>> and
>>> 
>>>   
>>   
>> 
>>> likewise the major retailers, because they need each other to a large
>>> extent.
>>>
>>> The convergent interests of these organizations make it beneficial 
>>> for them to follow the region code scheme.
>>>
>>> Smaller businesses like world-import.com are willing to forego the 
>>> cooperation of the movie industry so they're free to sell 
>>> multi-region
>>> 
>>>   
>>   
>> 
>>> players.
>>>
>>> The law doesn't enter into it.
>>>
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
>>   
>> 
>
>
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RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL

[Cory Papenfuss]

> NO, the major problem is most people think its still
> too expensive ( when they dont even know the price )
> or havent actually watched anything in HD like
> a good movie from beginning to end. HDTV is
> a no brainer home entertainment major improvement
> for all of mankind, just like silent movies, radio, TV,
> color TV, & home video were and are...Not some
> government mandated "cash grab" that the masses
> have to "suffer" thru.
> jco
>
The price for a true HD experience is still too much for the 
average joe.  Unfortunately, the roughly $1k necessary for a real HD set 
(not a 720p/1080i "capable" set, but a true HD physical-pixel device) is 
all the average person likely puts forth.  The $50-$100/mo necessary for 
all the doodads that go with it (Cablecard, STB, DTV, etc) are still 
beyond most.  Most of the general population gets a HDTV set, connects to 
their DVD player with an S-vid cable, and convinces themselves that the 
picture is "amazing" just because it cost them $1k-$2k to get it, not 
because it actually *is*.

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Re: OT - for those of you whohaveDVD equipthat can playPAL systemDVD's

[cbwaters]

I think the difference is between:

There's a Federal, State or local law prohibiting me from making ,selling, 
or buying the media or players in question.

And

The major movie studios got together and forced the manufacturers of the 
units and media to go along (probably contractually) with the idea of 
regions so the studios could drag out the releases of both films and their 
DVDs so they could ALL make more money.

So, is it legal?
Who the fuck cares?

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Re: OT - for those of you whohaveDVD equipthat can playPAL systemDVD's

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 4/19/2007 4:19:08 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You see, all us honest  citizens wanted was a simple apology for being 
maligned as having broken the  law. :-)

I take your statement "NO, it may be legal to own them here",  below as such.

See further below.

Tom  C.

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RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equipthat can playPALsystemDVD's

[Cory Papenfuss]

> Sir, the typical Blu-Ray/HDDVD buyer is not
> going to still use an older HD set that
> doesnt have HDMI interface anyway,
> As good as they were, none of the
> older HD sets that dont have HDMI input
> are as good as the best HD sets being
> made at the time of BLURAY HDDVD
> introductions and later. The bottom line, is
> you wont even hardly see any
> differece between blu-ray/HDDVD
> on those older sets compared to
> upconverted DVD if the set is
> so old it doesnt have HDMI.
>
I cry bullshit on this.  CRT's have been capable of reproducing 
1920x1080 (i.e. 1080i, 1080p) and *certainly* 1280x720 (i.e. 720p) for 
many years.  Many "HD-ready" sets sold withing the past 12-18 months do 
not have HDMI-capable inputes.

  > HD signal has been and probably
> still is way better than the
> displays at this point, I am
> now looking at buying my third
> HD set even though all of them had
> HDMI, they just keep getting better
> and better making me WANT to upgrade,
> not looking at it as HAVING to upgrade.
>
>
... then you are exactly the credit card-toting lemming the 
industry is looking for.  Enjoy your high-def experience it certainly 
costs plenty.

-Cory

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Re: Blogging soon...

[Mike Hamilton]

On 4/19/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Apr 19, 2007, at 5:01 PM, Mike Hamilton wrote:
>
> > My website is setup as a photoblog, and I've found it an invaluable
> > tool for developing my skill as a photographer.  It's simply a venue
> > for artistic output.  Some people use one for writing, I use mine for
> > photography.  I don't know where I would exhibit the bulk of my work
> > otherwise!! :)
>
> I write the HTML, then toss the pictures and the HTML on the same web
> server a blog would go on. What's the difference, other than that I
> don't append blog to photo?

Minor differences, really.  Usually a "Previous Photo" and "Next
Photo", the philosophy behind it (posting a continuous series of
images that don't belong to a specific theme or gallery), comments
embedded in the post... using "blog" software such as WordPress or
MT...

Minor differences, really.  Regardless, both formats work and serve
the purposes intended.  Publishing and providing a venue for images.
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RE: OT - for those of you whohaveDVD equipthat can playPAL systemDVD's

[J. C. O'Connell]

Synonyms have can similar meanings not always the same 
meanings.

It is possible to do something illegal which
there is no written law against which is
what most civil court cases are about in the first place,
like say, violation of a written licensing agreement for example??
thats not a law but it legal consequences can occur
jco

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On 20/04/07, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> HOW MANY TIMES do I have to post this, illegal
> doenst mean the same thing as unlawful.

What are you on about John?

http://www.answers.com/topic/unlawful

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Re: Blogging soon...

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 4/19/2007 3:45:22 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
well, aren't we  feeling smug today.

Doug  Brewer
http://www.drivingtheflies.com

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essentially articles that  might be good enough to actually be published 
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Re: PESO added more to the page

[cbwaters]

Looks like a bot of "be there" photos.  Lots of nice work.
Thanks for showing
CW
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> Hi all, I added more photos to the photo,net page if anyone wants to
> have a look and say what they think.Thanks Joe
>>www.photo.net/photos/pjjdxn
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Re: PESO - Alley

[Brendan MacRae]

It's been so long since I originally set the
parameters for my ColorVision spyder that I can't
remember the why's and wherefore's of my settings.
Much of it was probably recommended settings based on
the controls of the monitor.

Your gray scale looks good on my MAC, though. All of
the strips stand out (just as they do in the
calibration process with the Spyder). My prints also
look good compared to my monitor but especially so
when I use the correct profiles I created with the
ColorVision spectrocolorimeter.



-Brendan


--- Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I calibrate the ACD23 to 140 luminance, 1.8 gamma
> and 5500K white  
> point with the Eye One Display 2 and iMatch
> software. It's a warm- 
> white which suits proofing for gallery/exhibition
> lighting and  
> provides a very close match to what comes out of the
> printer.
> 
> If you go to my calibration page at
>   
>
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/calibration/cal.html
> my monitor is set so that each strip in the step
> wedge is visually  
> distinguishable, the white and black end bits match
> the white and  
> black surrounds, and the 11th step from the left
> reads out with the  
> Digital Color Meter in 16bit values as 32639 R,
> 32639 G, 32639 B.
> 
> Your gamma setting might shift that center point
> and/or might affect  
> being able to see all the gray steps on one end or
> the other.
> 
> Godfrey
> 
> On Apr 19, 2007, at 3:43 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote:
> 
> > It may be a bit dark, but I like it.
> >
> > I think my monitor is a little warm compared to
> yours.
> > I also have the 23" cinema display. Mine is set at
> > gamma 2.2 and a 6500K white point.
> >
> > If I remember, isn't yours a tad cooler? I wonder
> if
> > that would make any difference.
> >
> > -Brendan
> > --- Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Love the dark tones, but overall it's a little
> dark
> >> overall. (Mac OS
> >> X viewing with Safari)
> >>
> >> Godfrey
> >>
> >> On Apr 19, 2007, at 1:30 PM, Brendan MacRae
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> It's too dark on my PC monitor...time to
> calibrate
> >>> again. It looks just right on my MAC.
> >>>
> > http://www.primelensphoto.com/alley/index.html
> 
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RE: OT - for those of you who have DVDequipthatcan playPAL systemDVD's

[J. C. O'Connell]

yup, its a natural law. When the reproduction
system is really good it becomes more and more
transparant and gets "out of the way" of the art.
When its junk, you are looking at/listening to the distorted
remains of the art, not the art itself. JCO

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On 20/04/07, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> When you watch a crappy old analog "TV" you ARE
> watching the TV. Its like listening to a boom box
> vs listening to a high end audio system. In one
> case your listening to a device and in the other
> case your listening to the music.

Oh I see, I wasn't aware of these rules, are they law?

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Re: Blogging soon...

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Apr 19, 2007, at 5:01 PM, Mike Hamilton wrote:

> My website is setup as a photoblog, and I've found it an invaluable
> tool for developing my skill as a photographer.  It's simply a venue
> for artistic output.  Some people use one for writing, I use mine for
> photography.  I don't know where I would exhibit the bulk of my work
> otherwise!! :)

I write the HTML, then toss the pictures and the HTML on the same web  
server a blog would go on. What's the difference, other than that I  
don't append blog to photo?

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OT: Extremely retro

[Mark Erickson]

Thanks for the comments, guys.  I'm working on a solution that will allow me 
to scan 127 film on my Epson 4870.  When I do, I expect to produce better 
results than the attached images.  I was actually quite surprised at how 
good these images are--the Vest Pocket Model B lens is a single element 
meniscus. 

I think that the "old-school" Efke film helps with the overall look.  Color 
127 film exists, so I may try some color pics at some point.

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RE: Size Sells?

[Shel Belinkoff]

Bigger is better - even an 8x10 sized image on an 11x14 sized sheet is
better.  But I've always been of the impression that prints that fill an
11x14 sheet in the long dimension are the minimum way to go.  There are
always exceptions, of course.

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Mike Hamilton 

> My past experience has told me that 8x10 or smaller prints are easier
> or more desireable for people to hang on their walls because it does
> not dominate the whole wall.
>
> My prints were mostly 8x10, with 3- 5x7 and one 11x14.
>
> What is your experience with regard to this?



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RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL

[J. C. O'Connell]

NO, the major problem is most people think its still
too expensive ( when they dont even know the price )
or havent actually watched anything in HD like
a good movie from beginning to end. HDTV is
a no brainer home entertainment major improvement
for all of mankind, just like silent movies, radio, TV,
color TV, & home video were and are...Not some
government mandated "cash grab" that the masses
have to "suffer" thru.
jco

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> you never had an HDTV then, if you arent
> seeing your show, films, and events, in HD,
> then the replacement is already overdue no matter
> what year it is. HDTV is not just improved analog
> TV, its an entire order of magnitude better all
> new system and viewing experience.
> jco
>
... and as long as I don't have "fair-use" to time-shift HD 
offerings, (read: MythTV) I shan't be giving them any of my money.  Face

it... HDTV and DTV in general has been legislated as "mandatory"  since 
the mid 90's.  It hasn't been feasible to force people to switch because

everyone has been fighting over royalties and what type of DRM can be 
inflicted upon users.  As a consequence, it is not nearly as prevalent
as 
it {c|sh}ould be.

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Re: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL

[Shel Belinkoff]

Hey, Norm, I'm pretty much like Godders and mark.  No cable, an old, old
set used only for watching DVDs and one PBS station, which is pretty much
all the reception I could get from where I was located.  'Twas just fine
for 20+ years.  Now, because of my new location,  I can get several
stations, and guess what, for the most part they are of little interest.  

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Norm Baugher 

> Do you have running water or did you just shoot your TV one day?
> Norm
>
> Mark Roberts wrote:
> > Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> I have time to watch about one-three hour's worth of television a  
> >> week
> >> 
> >
> > I have no idea how much time I have to spare for watching TV - we don't 
> > have a television. haven't had one since about 1988



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