Re: GESO: School is over

2007-06-05 Thread Tom Ivar Helbekkmo
Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157600309114295/

"Couple-7751-web" is a great shot!  I'm sure the kids would love a copy
as a memento of a fun day...

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PESO - The Wave (Revisited)

2007-06-05 Thread Eactivist
Okay, I did the layer and mask thing. But note  my selection lines may show 
here and there, I will have smudge and blur and  clone the edges so they are 
not so visible.

For those of you that have  seen it before, uh, it looks different.

Now I am thinking maybe I like  the color version better, after all. The B&W 
can look more ominous, but the  color has more punch. Not sure though, so 
input welcome.

The mild version  could be anywhere between the bold version and the current 
mild version. I kept  playing with the mild one and this particular one might 
not be the most optimal.  (Sky and ground are different layers, in addition to 
the background, with the  opacity set to different standards for bold and 
mild.)

B&W Bold  
http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/wavebold.htm

B&W  Mild
http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/wavemild.htm

B&W  Color
http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/wavecolor.htm

So  which do you like best? Or would you rather have some variation of the 
mild  B&W?

I'd really appreciate hearing.

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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Re: One Who Missed GFM

2007-06-05 Thread Brendan MacRae
I didn't know Paul looked so much like Papa Hemingway.

-Brendan
--- Bill Sawyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> 
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Re: My GFM wrap-up (pretty long, probably boring)

2007-06-05 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 6/5/2007 6:52:00 P.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Photos will  follow.

Cory Waters
Owner, PDML  West


===
Thanks. Such a fulsome report gives one a  real feeling of what went on.

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Re: A quick Picasa web gallery

2007-06-05 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 6/5/2007 4:24:37 P.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If you are talking about this  shot:

http://picasaweb.google.com/pentkon52/GFM07/photo#5072643129669058946

Thats  the look i got from Doug, when i offered Canadian money for this
years  bribe.

Dave

==
Aha! LOL.

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Re: PESO - learning to weld

2007-06-05 Thread Peter McIntosh
Hi Rick,

Thanks for looking.  I pondered that, and experimented a little from other 
angles but I didn't like what the flash was doing.  And I would have lost the 
glowing bits on the ground.

Ciao,

Peter in western Sydney


- Original Message 
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Subject: Re: PESO - learning to weld

Very nice!  Would a tiny pop of fill flash help, or is
the stuff in the shadows not worth seeing?

Rick


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> been doing bits of 
> work here and there in order to pay the bills, and
> has just started 
> working with his friend's father in his metal
> fabrication business.  It 
> looks like he's found something he enjoys, and is
> teaching himself how 
> to arc-weld.  I managed to get him to let me grab a
> couple of shots; 
> here's one I like. 
> 
>
http://picasaweb.google.com/petergly/OnePhoto/photo#5071375848423957826
> 
> EXIF:  1600 ISO, 1/30 @ f/5.6.  A28mm f/2.8 lens
> used. 
> 
> Haven't used high ISO's on my ist-DL much.  I like
> what I'm seeing, 
> though.  And the 28mm lens seems to be a good one on
> this camera.  All 
> questions re workplace safety are to be sent
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Re: PESO (not GFM): Churchyard and Door

2007-06-05 Thread Joseph Tainter
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6056225

Comments most welcome.

Rick

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Re: One Who Missed GFM

2007-06-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
Good one, Bill. You caught me hanging :-). Thanks.
Paul
On Jun 5, 2007, at 9:05 PM, Bill Sawyer wrote:

> Here's what Paul Stenquist was doing while the others were being  
> lured by
> the mountain goat on crack
>
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6056101
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Re: PESO (not GFM): Churchyard and Door

2007-06-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Jun 5, 2007, at 6:49 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

> This is a view of the churchyard and church in
> Faringdon, a town in Oxfordshire (Cottyland):
>
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6056225

This has the makings of a fine photo, but needs some rendering work.  
It looks somewhat flat on my screen and has a light cyan cast.

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Re: PESO -Grimes Creek

2007-06-05 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Womer" Subject: Re: PESO -Grimes Creek


>I like yours better, Bill!

I did choose my subject more wisely than Tom.

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Re: PESO (not GFM): Churchyard and Door

2007-06-05 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Womer" Subject: PESO (not GFM): Churchyard and Door


>
> This is a view of the churchyard and church in
> Faringdon, a town in Oxfordshire (Cottyland):
>
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6056225
>
> Comments most welcome.

I think the angle of view is a bit low, a higher camera position would give 
a bit more depth to the headstones, with the resulting benefit of a deeper 
looking picture.

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PESO (not GFM): Churchyard and Door

2007-06-05 Thread Rick Womer
I have about 1100 exposures from the month I've had
the K10D, including a few hundred from my sojourn in
the UK last month.

This is a view of the churchyard and church in
Faringdon, a town in Oxfordshire (Cottyland):

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6056225

Comments most welcome.

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Re: Last old PUG up

2007-06-05 Thread Bob Sullivan
Thanks for the PUG Adelheid.  We missed you at GFM.  Regards, Bob S.

On 6/1/07, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
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My GFM wrap-up (pretty long, probably boring)

2007-06-05 Thread cbwaters
I didn't sleep much Wednesday night.  I figure it was excitement about the 
trip and a little anxiety.
I'd made a trip to the store on Wednesday but forgot some important items 
like buns for the Bubba Burgers so I made another stop on the way out of 
town.  I still forgot to get salt & pepper and sliced cheese. During the 
weekend on separate trips,  Kyle (A non-lister but a fine woman anyway) 
bought the S&P and Scott Loveless bought some very fine quality cheese. 
That's just how great it is up on "The Mountain".

The trip up was uneventful, if a bit lonely (Cesar).  there was a lot of 
smoke in Atlanta from the wildfires burning hundreds of miles to the south, 
but the weather was promising (foreshadowing) and the traffic was light.  I 
made good time and was able to coax more miles from a tank of gas than last 
year since I wasn't hauling Cesar's cargo containers.

I was surprised to find that I was almost the first one to the picnic area 
we call home.  Nico was and Kyle were there but Nico had elected to pitch 
his tent over by the cabin this year for reasons known only to him and 
anybody who was within a half-mile of Dave Brooks last year.
I made the bold decision to abandon the traditional PDML Central location 
for the next spot over.  I felt that the new location had a more desirable 
front porch area.
The others began to arrive and it wasn't long before Mark Cassino was 
banging on a motor home door that *didn't* belong to Cotty.  I was leaning 
against said motor home and Dave Brooks was drinking a beer at it's table 
when the Cannon-shooting-owner pulled-up.  um... whoops.  But, as should be 
expected, he was a really nice guy named Bruce who fit right in with our 
goofy group, loaned Cotty some leveling blocks for the camper, and even 
facilitated Cotty's wine habit all weekend.
Cotty and Cesar showed-up in an obviously rented motor home that was brand 
new.  It seems the rental place doesn't know us very well, eh?
Dave ferried Mark up to the trail head and it started raining as-if on cue 
the moment Mark disappeared from site.  It seems like it rains on him every 
year as he's walking briskly up the mountain for his traditional night on 
the trail.
We ate the burgers sans cheese and headed up to the bridge in search of a 
sunset that never really was.
Scott and Ann turned-up pretty late and we all turned-in for a few hours.  I 
didn't sleep much

Friday came with more arrivals.  I forget now when it started raining but it 
seemed like it rained on and off the whole weekend.  Matt Massen took a 
shower Thursday night and his towel was still wet when I unpacked Sunday 
night.  Let's just say the weekend was rather moist and not in a fun, 
steamy, girlfriend, back-seat kinda way either.
There was a lot of BS-ing around the campsite all day and not many 
photographs were taken that didn't include a PDML member goofing off.
David Savage turned-up.  He seemed nice enough so I took him up to the 
bridge to have a look around and imprison a few electrons.  Much to my 
dismay though, he seemed more interested in the bridge construction than the 
wonderful vistas and beautiful foliage.  Ship-builders...go figure.
We all went up to the auditorium to take the oath of less-seriousness and 
see the Mark and Darth (Doug) show.  There were many laser shenanigans and 
one prominent "boing" but hidden deep in the subliminal messages of the 
program were some really good photo tips.  Avoiding BULLSEYE! was one and 
the other that I can remember was something like "Hey, if you make the 
photograph good to begin with, you won't have to screw it up in photoshop 
later".
Then there was Tony Sweet.  He showed a lot of great pictures and he gets 
free NIC software and Lensbabys so he talked a lot about that stuff.   I was 
kinda bored.  And what's with the old-man clown hair and dew-rag, dude?  I 
just figured out that he reminds me of the stoner buss driver on the 
Simpsons... I'm sure he's a really nice guy though so don't tell him I said 
that, ok?

Saturday came and I went up the mountain at oh-dark-thirty  to see what the 
sunrise looked like (I didn't sleep much. a pattern develops).  There were 
many tripods facing East.  I figured, hey, if everyone is looking that way, 
I should look the other way.  FREE TIP: The sun rises in the east so that's 
where the nifty light is.  I'll post some nice fog shots if they don't suck 
when Cesar sends me the bits that are trapped in his laptop.  I ate my 
poptarts with Nico, Mark and Roger(?) over by the bathroom, took a shower, 
and made ready for the planned trip to Attic Window peak.

Now, this is a pretty demanding trail for those of us with less than optimal 
fitness.  I'm fat and posses little in the way of cardio-stamina.  I was 
breathing hard before we got to the little stand where you get the trail 
maps.  Last year I made it up to the ridge right before McRae peak, about 
where Tom turned around this year. I was determined to make it to Attic 
Window this tim

Re: GFM - The People of the PDML

2007-06-05 Thread Bob Sullivan
You look just fine Ann. The new haircut becomes you.  Regards, Bob S.

On 6/5/07, ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Brian Walters wrote:
>
> >Yes - I am deeply embarrassed.
> >
> >I knew as soon as I pressed the 'send' button that I had made a blunder.  
> >It's just that I saw EOS and immediately thought 'Cotty'.
> >
> >I don't know why.
> >
> >Again, my apologies.
> >
> >
> >
> >Cheers
> >
> >Brian
> >
> apology accepted - I do look pretty awful in that shot -- ooops now I
> have to apologize to Cotty :)
>
> ann
>
> >
> >++
> >Brian Walters
> >Western Sydney, Australia
> >http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/
> >
> >
> >
> >Quoting ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >
> >
> >>Brian Walters wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>My apologies
> >>>
> >>>The size of the camera and lens distracted me
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Cheers
> >>>
> >>>Brian
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Better be ME you are apologizing to :)
> >>I know I'm not the dish I used to be but
> >>ann
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>++
> >>>Brian Walters
> >>>Western Sydney, Australia
> >>>http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/
> >>>
> >>>Quoting Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> On 4/6/07, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >and is that Cotty behind the EOS?)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> ROTFL
> 
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> 
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Re: PESO -Grimes Creek

2007-06-05 Thread Rick Womer
I like yours better, Bill!


--- William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Tom C" 
> Subject: PESO - Mr. Robb at Grimes Creek
> 
> 
> >
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6021612
> > 
> > About ten miles from home on our little photo
> expedition.
> > 
> 
> Here is the picture I was taking while Tom was
> taking his.
> 
>
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/wetrocks1.html
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Re: PESO - learning to weld

2007-06-05 Thread Rick Womer
Very nice!  Would a tiny pop of fill flash help, or is
the stuff in the shadows not worth seeing?

Rick


--- Peter McIntosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My son has just walked out of a carpentry
> apprenticeship 2 years in, 
> after a rather unpleasant time there.  He's since
> been doing bits of 
> work here and there in order to pay the bills, and
> has just started 
> working with his friend's father in his metal
> fabrication business.  It 
> looks like he's found something he enjoys, and is
> teaching himself how 
> to arc-weld.  I managed to get him to let me grab a
> couple of shots; 
> here's one I like. 
> 
>
http://picasaweb.google.com/petergly/OnePhoto/photo#5071375848423957826
> 
> EXIF:  1600 ISO, 1/30 @ f/5.6.  A28mm f/2.8 lens
> used. 
> 
> Haven't used high ISO's on my ist-DL much.  I like
> what I'm seeing, 
> though.  And the 28mm lens seems to be a good one on
> this camera.  All 
> questions re workplace safety are to be sent
> directly to him... ;-)
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Re: PESO -- Phragmite

2007-06-05 Thread Rick Womer
I like this one.  The horizon and the jetty both
contribute something.

Rick

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> In a message dated 5/31/2007 2:46:24 P.M.  Pacific
> Daylight Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Phragmites are native  to North America, but they
> have also been 
> introduced.  The introduced  variety's unfortunately
> are quite invasive.  
> 30 years ago this would  have been a shot of
> Cattails, a species that is 
> useful as food for a number  of bird and animal
> species.  Phragmites are 
> on the other hand  useless...
> 
>
http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO_--_phragmite.html
> 
> Equipment  Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax FA 28-70mm f4.0
> AL
> 
> ===
> I like that  quite a bit, Peter. Without the horizon
> line it wouldn't be 
> nothing, with it  it's something. Simple but
> effective. 
> 
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Re: PESO - The Advancing Wave

2007-06-05 Thread Rick Womer
Better, but still not up to potential.

You have a typo in "Advancing," too.

Rick

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> In a message dated 6/3/2007 10:20:30 A.M.  Pacific
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Not that much  work.  I did a quick and dirty, but
> subtle, correction.   
> I'm  sure with just a little more work than I put in
> you could make it 
> much  better.
> 
>
http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/Marnies_Wave.html
> 
> 
> =
> Thanks,  Peter. Hmmm, a slightly different
> interpretation. You know this one 
> could go a  lot of different ways when one comes
> right down to it. But saved 
> it, and  thanks.
> 
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Re: PESO: Canyon

2007-06-05 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Cotty" Subject: Re: PESO: Canyon


>>>http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/boisepan1.html
> 
> 
> Wow - lovely pair mate. 
> 
> 


Thanks Cotty.

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Re: Another GFM weekend done W/PESO!

2007-06-05 Thread David Savage
On 6/5/07, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> cbwaters wrote:
>
> >Here's the one shot I submitted to the contest.
> >
> >http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/2793835#159371400-L-LB
>
> Hey, where's the "BOIING!" sound effect?
> 

Aparently it can only be played once. And that was Friday night.



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Re: PAW 2007 - 25 - GDG

2007-06-05 Thread Rick Womer
It works for me.  Would trimming about 10% off the
right make it work even better?


--- Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On this sunny but beautiful day, I went to the Santa
> Cruz Pride  
> Festival ...
> 
>   
> http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/25.htm
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One Who Missed GFM

2007-06-05 Thread Bill Sawyer
Here's what Paul Stenquist was doing while the others were being lured by
the mountain goat on crack

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6056101


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Re: Another way to get a camera into an Altoids tin.

2007-06-05 Thread Rick Womer
I don't see an aperture simulator.  Wouldn't touch
'em.

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Re: Another GFM weekend done W/PESO!

2007-06-05 Thread Rick Womer
No, but there was a dead moth in Annsan's mushrooms...


--- "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> But does it include illicit sex, and cannibalism?
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Re: A quick Picasa web gallery

2007-06-05 Thread David Savage
On 6/6/07, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 6/5/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "David J Brooks"
> > Subject: Re: A quick Picasa web gallery
> >
> >
> > > If you are talking about this shot:
> > >
> > > http://picasaweb.google.com/pentkon52/GFM07/photo#5072643129669058946
> > >
> > > Thats the look i got from Doug, when i offered Canadian money for this
> > > years bribe.
> >
> >
> > It's not nice to tease them that way, Dave.
>
> You should see what Savage tried.:-)
>
> Dave

:-)

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GFM

2007-06-05 Thread graywolf
You guys think you are all worthless, but I'll have you no that I paid $14 to 
get in and see you. That came out to almost a buck each .

More seriously, I enjoyed meeting the folks I had not met before, and seeing 
folks I knew. Even though sometimes I wasn't quite sure which was which with my 
"Ah dunno" medical problem.

After everyone headed down to register, I asked someone to say goodbye to ye 
all for me. If that did not happen, I apologise.

If this is all greek to some of the folks on the list, I will give a bit of a 
cribsheet out. I went over to GFM for awhile on F

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Re: GFM - The People of the PDML

2007-06-05 Thread ann sanfedele
Brian Walters wrote:

>Yes - I am deeply embarrassed.
>
>I knew as soon as I pressed the 'send' button that I had made a blunder.  It's 
>just that I saw EOS and immediately thought 'Cotty'.
>
>I don't know why.
>
>Again, my apologies.
>
>
>
>Cheers
>
>Brian
>
apology accepted - I do look pretty awful in that shot -- ooops now I 
have to apologize to Cotty :)

ann

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>Quoting ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>  
>
>>Brian Walters wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>My apologies
>>>
>>>The size of the camera and lens distracted me
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Cheers
>>>
>>>Brian
>>> 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>Better be ME you are apologizing to :)
>>I know I'm not the dish I used to be but
>>ann
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>>
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>>>Quoting Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
On 4/6/07, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:

   



>and is that Cotty behind the EOS?)
> 
>
>  
>
ROTFL

Even if I had a quarter of Ann's hair I'd say yes.

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Re: GFM

2007-06-05 Thread Bob Sullivan
And it was good to see you Tom!  Thanks for making the effort to say
hello.  As you guessed, after registering at 3+ PM, we went down and
checked in at the motel and then dinner and then the program.

It is a whirlwind of activity when you don't sleep on the mountain
(takes 15 minutes minimum to get to the room)

Regards, Bob S.

On 6/5/07, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
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> folks I knew. Even though sometimes I wasn't quite sure which was which with 
> my "Ah dunno" medical problem.
>
> After everyone headed down to register, I asked someone to say goodbye to ye 
> all for me. If that did not happen, I apologize.
>
> If this is all Greek to some of the folks on the list, I will give a bit of a 
> cribsheet out. I went over to GFM for awhile on Friday. Got there about 11 
> and hung out for maybe 4 hours until everyone took off to register for the 
> program. Figuring that they would be busy after that I headed home. 
> Strangely, I got home and just sat staring at the wall for a couple of hours. 
> PDML has some really nice people on it, and it was good seeing some of you 
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GFM

2007-06-05 Thread graywolf
You guys think you are all worthless, but I'll have you know that I paid $14 to 
get in and see you. That came out to almost a buck each . 

More seriously, I enjoyed meeting the folks I had not met before, and seeing 
folks I knew. Even though sometimes I wasn't quite sure which was which with my 
"Ah dunno" medical problem.

After everyone headed down to register, I asked someone to say goodbye to ye 
all for me. If that did not happen, I apologize.

If this is all Greek to some of the folks on the list, I will give a bit of a 
cribsheet out. I went over to GFM for awhile on Friday. Got there about 11 and 
hung out for maybe 4 hours until everyone took off to register for the program. 
Figuring that they would be busy after that I headed home. Strangely, I got 
home and just sat staring at the wall for a couple of hours. PDML has some 
really nice people on it, and it was good seeing some of you face to face again.

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Re: Peso: Dried Mud

2007-06-05 Thread Russell Kerstetter
I thought you were pulling my leg with 'Kodachrome Basin" but I guess
not.  It looks like a pretty area, unless you are lost of course :)
If you are into deserts the Gila Wilderness in SW New Mexico is really
amazing as well as secluded (if you did not already know that).  My
family went there for a month long camping trip when I was in
highschool.  Once you get past the trailhead you really don't see
anyone, we actually only ran into one other group of people while on
the trails.

Russ

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> Subject: Re: Peso: Dried Mud
>
>
> > Nice Bill!  Good exposure, and composition.  What are the fuzzy
> > diagonals in the corners and where is this?
>
> Thanks Russell.
> That was shot with the 12-24 at 12mm. I have a feeling that I didn't have
> the lens hood fully rotated on. The top right corner had a big vignettte,
> which I retouched. I meant to crop the others since they are so little, and
> forgot.
> That is just a very short hop down the road from Grosvener Arch, near
> Kodachrome Basin. I spotted it on my way back from getting lost in the
> desert (literally) for half an afternoon.
>
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> >> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/drymud.html
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Re: GFM - Homo at last

2007-06-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Well, it's what I felt like about, oh, 7-8 years ago. ];-)

G

On Jun 5, 2007, at 4:28 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

> Glad you safe, but, what's with the thread header:-)
>
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Re: A quick Picasa web gallery

2007-06-05 Thread David J Brooks
On 6/5/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "David J Brooks"
> Subject: Re: A quick Picasa web gallery
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>
> > If you are talking about this shot:
> >
> > http://picasaweb.google.com/pentkon52/GFM07/photo#5072643129669058946
> >
> > Thats the look i got from Doug, when i offered Canadian money for this
> > years bribe.
>
>
> It's not nice to tease them that way, Dave.

You should see what Savage tried.:-)

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Re: Peso: Dried Mud

2007-06-05 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Roberts"
Subject: Re: Peso: Dried Mud


> William Robb wrote:
>
>> Pretty self explanatory.
>> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/drymud.html
>
> Great stuff. Glad to see you got some good photography out of your
> aborted trip to GFM. Hope to see you in person next year.

Glad you like the stuff. It's an easy area to shoot in. I think a PDML get 
together at Kodachrome would be a grand idea.

Me too.

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Re: Peso: Dried Mud

2007-06-05 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Russell Kerstetter"
Subject: Re: Peso: Dried Mud


> Nice Bill!  Good exposure, and composition.  What are the fuzzy
> diagonals in the corners and where is this?

Thanks Russell.
That was shot with the 12-24 at 12mm. I have a feeling that I didn't have 
the lens hood fully rotated on. The top right corner had a big vignettte, 
which I retouched. I meant to crop the others since they are so little, and 
forgot.
That is just a very short hop down the road from Grosvener Arch, near 
Kodachrome Basin. I spotted it on my way back from getting lost in the 
desert (literally) for half an afternoon.

William Robb


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Re: Peso: Dried Mud

2007-06-05 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Norm Baugher" 
Subject: Re: Peso: Dried Mud


> Beautiful.

Thanks Norm.
bill



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Re: Yet another PESO

2007-06-05 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Russell Kerstetter"

Subject: Re: Yet another PESO


> doesn't look cartoony to me, I like it

I toned it down shortly after announcing it. I went back and looked after 
Marnie commented and my eyes started bleeding.
Thanks for liking it.

William Robb

>> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/rockform1.html
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Re: A quick Picasa web gallery

2007-06-05 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "David J Brooks"
Subject: Re: A quick Picasa web gallery


> If you are talking about this shot:
> 
> http://picasaweb.google.com/pentkon52/GFM07/photo#5072643129669058946
> 
> Thats the look i got from Doug, when i offered Canadian money for this
> years bribe.


It's not nice to tease them that way, Dave.

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Re: A quick Picasa web gallery

2007-06-05 Thread David Savage
Har! Who is Keyser Soze?!

Your height gauge is out of scale. I'm 6" thank you very much.

:-)

Cheers,

Dave

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>
> >http://picasaweb.google.com/pentkon52/GFM07
>
> Nice Photoshop job, Dave. But I'm gonna spoil the party and post the
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Re: Peso: Grosvenor Arch, The Lazuli Bunting, the Canyon, and them Hummingbirds

2007-06-05 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom C"
Subject: Re: Peso: Grosvenor Arch, The Lazuli Bunting, the Canyon,and them 
Hummingbirds


> >You don't need no moat and drawbridge. Just have Linda stand at the top 
> >of
>>the drive and practice those stern looks like that what she gave me while 
>>I
>>was driving up the hill to your house.

>
> Because you were driving up the middle because you were afwaid of running
> your big big twuck off the wittle bitty woad? :-)

I was afeared, I admit, but Linda scared me straight..

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Re: GFM - Homo at last

2007-06-05 Thread David J Brooks
On 6/5/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> With Cotty, it's best not to ask questions like that...

I wonder what people just tuning into the PDML and seeing this, think.

LOL

Dave
>
> David J Brooks wrote:
> > You spell like me.:-)
> >
> > Glad you safe, but, whats with the thread header:-)
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On 6/5/07, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Arrived back. Sleep first. The eat. Then work. Then pics.
> >>
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Re: A quick Picasa web gallery

2007-06-05 Thread David J Brooks
If you are talking about this shot:

http://picasaweb.google.com/pentkon52/GFM07/photo#5072643129669058946

Thats the look i got from Doug, when i offered Canadian money for this
years bribe.

Dave

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> http://picasaweb.google.com/pentkon52/GFM07
>
> Just had a quick  look through the files, and i put up these few to get
> us started.
> No  adjustments, justa resize and  SFW
>
> Enjoy
>
> Dave
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Re: GFM - The People of the PDML

2007-06-05 Thread David Savage
On 6/5/07, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nice gallery, Cory. I like the shot of Doug and Scott with all the
> reflections. How did you do that one?

Someone (Cory?) was showing Doug & Scott the shots on the back of the
camera they had been taking of them (giving a sign language tutorial I
think), and I snapped that shot of them through the glass.

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Re: Another GFM weekend done W/PESO!

2007-06-05 Thread Mark Roberts



P. J. Alling wrote:

>Mark Roberts wrote:
>> John Sessoms wrote:
>>   
 "Bob W"
 Interesting caption. "Ten of us set out for the Attic Window peak 
 that morning but only four of us made it all the way. " Is this one 
 of those Touching The Void stories? Did the others have to drag
 themselves back through the latrines?
>>> 
http://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN038000321X&id=sBYRYi4ZsSIC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Alive
>>> 
>> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/alive.jpg
>>
>But does it include illicit sex, and cannibalism?

Well *my* GFM experience included neither but we haven't heard from 
everyone yet...


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Re: PESO - Rush Hour

2007-06-05 Thread Brian Walters
The guy on the right doesn't quite look happy about having his photo taken.  It 
would be a better image if he was is clear focus (but, given your signature 
line)

Reminds me of some of my commutes before I retired.


Cheers

Brian

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> Actually, it lasts several hours, rush hour does.
> 
> Rained yesterday morning, so I took transit to work.  Sun was out
> for
> my commute home.  Toronto's subway rides above ground in some
> places,
> and I thought it looked kind of cool with the sun illuminating the
> crowded car:
> 
> http://gmapuploader.com/iframe.php?mapId=KDtkGhx8GL
> 
> Comments always welcome.
> 
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RE: Pentax Photo Gallery Response

2007-06-05 Thread Jack Davis

--- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > > Subject: Re: Pentax Photo Gallery Response
> > >
> > > On 5/6/07, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:
> > >
> > > >Only a few have their harthats on waiting for the sky to
> > > >fall.
> > >
> > > A few more have their harts in their mouths  ;-))
> > >
> >
> >Oh, deer. Is this going to be another pun thread? Let's not get
> stuck
> >in a rut this time.
> >
> >Bob
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> I know.  It gets pretty STAGnant sometimes.
> 
> Tom c.
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> Yes, things of that elk do.

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RE: GFM - The People of the PDML

2007-06-05 Thread Brian Walters



Oh yeah




Cheers

Brian

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Quoting Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Aussies have never been able to tell the difference between men
> and
> women. Either that or they don't care. It explains a lot of the
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> > My apologies
> > 
> > The size of the camera and lens distracted me
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 
> > Brian
> > 
> > ++
> > Brian Walters
> > Western Sydney, Australia
> > http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/
> > 
> > Quoting Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > 
> > > On 4/6/07, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:
> > > 
> > > > and is that Cotty behind the EOS?)
> > > 
> > > ROTFL
> > > 
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Re: Peso: Grosvenor Arch, The Lazuli Bunting, the Canyon, and them Hummingbirds

2007-06-05 Thread Tom C
>You don't need no moat and drawbridge. Just have Linda stand at the top of 
>the drive and practice those stern looks like that what she gave me while I 
>was driving up the hill to your house.
>
>William Robb
>

Because you were driving up the middle because you were afwaid of running 
your big big twuck off the wittle bitty woad? :-)

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Re: Another GFM weekend done W/PESO!

2007-06-05 Thread Mat Maessen
On 6/4/07, cbwaters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wait, you guys turned back at McRae, didn't you?
> I do have that picture.  Well, Cesar has it.  I hope :)

Doh, you're right. I thought "MacRae" and typed "Attic Window." Stupid brain.
I saw one version of that picture on Mark's LCD screen. :-)

> I also have your pillow and your CD from the contest.  Funny how you took
> all your lenses and left this crap ;)

I always seem to leave something behind. No lenses this time at least. :-)

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Re: GFM - The People of the PDML

2007-06-05 Thread Brian Walters
There was a compliment?   :-)>


Cheers

Brian

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Quoting Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On 5/6/07, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> > It's just that I saw EOS and immediately thought 'Cotty'.
> 
> Thanks for the compliment ;-)
> 
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Re: GFM - The People of the PDML

2007-06-05 Thread Cotty
On 5/6/07, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:

> It's just that I saw EOS and immediately thought 'Cotty'.

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Re: K10d FA*80-200 f/2.8 consistent overexposure unless fully open?

2007-06-05 Thread Axel Belinfante
sorry, couldn't do that. :-)
even if forever stuck at 2.8 it would still be a nice lens
(well, apart from minor details like weight, size)

originally I bought it for low light conditions anyway
(and because I needed a replacement after some uninvited
visitor(s) abused my absence to releive me from an
FA 80-210 3.5-5.6 (or so?) with which I had gotten
dissatisfied anyway)

"Peter Fairweather" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hardly worth the cost of repair. I'll take it off your hands if you
> pay half the postage ;>)
> 
> 
> On 05/06/07, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Sounds like a classic example of a sticky aperture lever. Flip the lever
> > on the lens a couple times, if it's at all slow in returning, get the
> > lens CLA'd.
> >
> > -Adam
> >
> >
> > Axel Belinfante wrote:
> > > I just subscribed to the list, essentially to ask the question below.
> > >
> > > I recently got myself a K10d.  When I use the kit 18-55 mm
> > > and a FA*28-70 f/2.8 everything seems to work fine.
> > >
> > > However, with my FA*80-200 f/2.8 (aperture ring set to A)
> > > I seem to get consistent overexposure (2 stops or so?),
> > > _except_ when using it fully open (at 2.8)  using the
> > > hyper-program shifting or by using Av mode at 2.8.
> > >
> > > It almost makes me feel there is something wrong with
> > > the way the camera tries to set aperture on the lens
> > > (which would explain why it works fine at 2.8:
> > > then it doesn't have to do anything so it works).
> > > Would that be a valid explanation?
> > >
> > > Setting aperture using the ring on the lens, and
> > > then using lcd-preview gives me correct (not overexposed)
> > > preview shots.
> > >
> > > I have not been using the lens so much recently; in the
> > > somewhat longer past I've been using it on a Z1 shooting
> > > slides (last serious usage about a year ago, at the coast)
> > > and I don't recall this kind of consistent overexposure.
> > > I should probably just do some test shots with the Z1
> > > but haven't found the time.
> > >
> > > Sending the stuff in to pentax service, or even better,
> > > visiting them, would have been another option except
> > > that the dutch pentax service told me they send these
> > > kind of things to pentax europe in Hamburg
> > > (which doesn't really matter, except that if the dutch
> > > pentax service in Breda would still have existed I would
> > > just have visited them there and explained the issue)
> > > and except for the wrong-time-of-the-year problem
> > > (I've been told that due to holiday season it might
> > > take weeks until I would get it back :-(
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Don't know if this is the right forum for these kind of questions;
> > > I have seen there are multiple pentax forums out there, but don't
> > > know how they differ. Any thoughts?
> > >
> > > Minor suggestion: inclusion of (pointer to) PDML mini-faq
> > > on the mailing list web page (and/or in list welcome message)
> > > could be useful, if only to be able to appreciate the acronyms.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Axel.
> > >
> > >
> >
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RE: Pentax Photo Gallery Response

2007-06-05 Thread Tom C
> > Subject: Re: Pentax Photo Gallery Response
> >
> > On 5/6/07, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:
> >
> > >Only a few have their harthats on waiting for the sky to
> > >fall.
> >
> > A few more have their harts in their mouths  ;-))
> >
>
>Oh, deer. Is this going to be another pun thread? Let's not get stuck
>in a rut this time.
>
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I know.  It gets pretty STAGnant sometimes.

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Re: Another GFM weekend done W/PESO!

2007-06-05 Thread P. J. Alling
But does it include illicit sex, and cannibalism?

Mark Roberts wrote:
> John Sessoms wrote:
>
>   
>>> "Bob W"
>>> Interesting caption. "Ten of us set out for the Attic Window peak 
>>> that morning but only four of us made it all the way. " Is this one 
>>> of those Touching The Void stories? Did the others have to drag
>>> themselves back through the latrines?
>>>   
>> http://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN038000321X&id=sBYRYi4ZsSIC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Alive
>> 
>
> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/alive.jpg
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Re: GFM - The People of the PDML

2007-06-05 Thread Brian Walters
Yes - I am deeply embarrassed.

I knew as soon as I pressed the 'send' button that I had made a blunder.  It's 
just that I saw EOS and immediately thought 'Cotty'.

I don't know why.

Again, my apologies.



Cheers

Brian

++
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Western Sydney, Australia
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Quoting ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Brian Walters wrote:
> 
> >My apologies
> >
> >The size of the camera and lens distracted me
> >
> >
> >
> >Cheers
> >
> >Brian
> >  
> >
> Better be ME you are apologizing to :)
> I know I'm not the dish I used to be but
> ann
> 
> >++
> >Brian Walters
> >Western Sydney, Australia
> >http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/
> >
> >Quoting Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>On 4/6/07, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>and is that Cotty behind the EOS?)
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>ROTFL
> >>
> >>Even if I had a quarter of Ann's hair I'd say yes.
> >>
> >>It's one of my cameras though.
> >>
> >>-- 
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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Re: Another GFM weekend done W/PESO!

2007-06-05 Thread Cotty
On 5/6/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

>http://www.robertstech.com/temp/alive.jpg



HAR

I knew you were up to no good

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Re: RE: Another GFM weekend done W/PESO!

2007-06-05 Thread cbwaters
Scratch and sniff?  HAR!!!
CW
- Original Message - 
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Subject: Re: RE: Another GFM weekend done W/PESO!


> John Sessoms wrote:
>
>>> "Bob W"
>>> Interesting caption. "Ten of us set out for the Attic Window peak
>>> that morning but only four of us made it all the way. " Is this one
>>> of those Touching The Void stories? Did the others have to drag
>>> themselves back through the latrines?
>>
>>http://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN038000321X&id=sBYRYi4ZsSIC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Alive
>
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RE: Pentax Photo Gallery Response

2007-06-05 Thread Bob W
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Cotty
> Sent: 05 June 2007 22:04
> To: pentax list
> Subject: Re: Pentax Photo Gallery Response
> 
> On 5/6/07, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >Only a few have their harthats on waiting for the sky to
> >fall.
> 
> A few more have their harts in their mouths  ;-))
> 

Oh, deer. Is this going to be another pun thread? Let's not get stuck
in a rut this time.

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Re: F 70-210 blues.

2007-06-05 Thread P. J. Alling
Maybe a small hammer would help. 

Norm Baugher wrote:
> A bigger hammer?
> Norm
>
> P. J. Alling wrote:
>   
>> You're not helping.
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> A good repair shop.
>>>
>>>
>>>  -- Original message --
>>> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
 My first problem.  I hit the screw heads holding the lens mount on with 
 a soldering Iron each for about 3 minutes.  Two screws came out nice as 
 pie.  the other three are stuck hard.  I've caused a little damage to 
 two of them, but they still should work.  I tried more heat for a longer 
 time on one of them.  No joy. I need a new plan.  I'm hoping someone 
 here has an idea.
   
 
>
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Re: F 70-210 blues.

2007-06-05 Thread P. J. Alling
Now that's an idea that I hadn't thought of.  It's worth a try anyway.  
I wish I could find a good repair shop.  The last place around here that 
had an in house repair department close some years ago.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Seriously, some shops have parts on hand from old equipment. You might check 
> around. 
> Other than that, tapping the screwdriver handle with a plastic mallet will 
> sometimes help loosen them. Get someone to support the lens. Then while 
> holding the screwdriver in the screws slot, smack the driver's handle a few 
> times. The shock transmited to the screw can help loosen it. But you will 
> need drivers that fit the screws perfectly.
> Paul
>  -- Original message --
> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   
>> You're not helping.
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>> A good repair shop.
>>>
>>>
>>>  -- Original message --
>>> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>   
>>>   
 My first problem.  I hit the screw heads holding the lens mount on with 
 a soldering Iron each for about 3 minutes.  Two screws came out nice as 
 pie.  the other three are stuck hard.  I've caused a little damage to 
 two of them, but they still should work.  I tried more heat for a longer 
 time on one of them.  No joy. I need a new plan.  I'm hoping someone 
 here has an idea.

 P. J. Alling wrote:
 
 
> Well it finally happened.  My F 70-210mm jammed.  Some of you may 
> remember Powell's 70-210mm repair, and the problem he had with the 
> information brush.  (for those who need a reminder 
> http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/lenses.htm ).  It seems to happen no 
> matter what you do.  I'm on my way to disassembling mine in an attempt 
> to repair it.  Unfortunately it jammed in the 70mm position with focus 
> at infinity so the screws on the sleeve are in accessible.  I'm looking 
> for advice if there is any.  Well I'm off to buy a new soldering iron 
> since I can't find my old one, (hope that will be enough so that I won't 
> need to buy a JIS crosspoint screwdriver.  I suppose I could simply 
> replace it but this lens is too good not to try, and I'm too broke to 
> send it to someone else to tell me it's unrepairable.
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Re: Yet another PESO

2007-06-05 Thread Jack Davis
Cotty, You missed the first "Loony Tunes" version.

Jack
--- Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 5/6/07, Russell Kerstetter, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >doesn't look cartoony to me, I like it
> 
> Did you know that Mickey Mouse has a Russell Kerstetter watch?
> 
> 
> ---> ;-)
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Re: RE: Another GFM weekend done W/PESO!

2007-06-05 Thread Mark Roberts
John Sessoms wrote:

>> "Bob W"
>> Interesting caption. "Ten of us set out for the Attic Window peak 
>> that morning but only four of us made it all the way. " Is this one 
>> of those Touching The Void stories? Did the others have to drag
>> themselves back through the latrines?
>
>http://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN038000321X&id=sBYRYi4ZsSIC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Alive

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Re: F 70-210 blues.

2007-06-05 Thread Paul Sorenson
Not so far off...sometimes gentle tapping with a small hammer on the 
screwdriver handle as you try to turn the screw will help unseat the 
threads.

-p

Norm Baugher wrote:
> A bigger hammer?
> Norm
> 
> P. J. Alling wrote:
>> You're not helping.
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>   
>>> A good repair shop.
>>>
>>>
>>>  -- Original message --
>>> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>   
>>> 
 My first problem.  I hit the screw heads holding the lens mount on with 
 a soldering Iron each for about 3 minutes.  Two screws came out nice as 
 pie.  the other three are stuck hard.  I've caused a little damage to 
 two of them, but they still should work.  I tried more heat for a longer 
 time on one of them.  No joy. I need a new plan.  I'm hoping someone 
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Re: PESO: Canyon

2007-06-05 Thread Rick Womer
Reminds me of the weather at GFM this past weekend...

--- William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This is a pretty big image, 800 x 2700 pixels, close
> to 400k.
> If you can't make em good, make em big.
> That's my philosophy.
>
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/boisepan1.html
> 
> It's a 4 exposure stitch, shot with the 21mm LTD.
> 
> Bonus points for finding this guy in the above
> picture
>
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/rockclimber1.html
> Shot with the A600/5.6
> 
> Have fun
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Re: K10d FA*80-200 f/2.8 consistent overexposure unless fully open?

2007-06-05 Thread Doug Franklin
Axel Belinfante wrote:

> However, with my FA*80-200 f/2.8 (aperture ring set to A)
> I seem to get consistent overexposure (2 stops or so?),
> _except_ when using it fully open (at 2.8)  using the
> hyper-program shifting or by using Av mode at 2.8.

That sounds really strange, Axel.  I'm afraid I can't help.  I can tell
you that it doesn't happen with my FA* 200/2.8 or F* 300/4.5, or any of
the other lenses I've used on my K10D.

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Re: Yet another PESO

2007-06-05 Thread Cotty
On 5/6/07, Russell Kerstetter, discombobulated, unleashed:

>doesn't look cartoony to me, I like it

Did you know that Mickey Mouse has a Russell Kerstetter watch?


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Re: F 70-210 blues.

2007-06-05 Thread pnstenquist
Seriously, some shops have parts on hand from old equipment. You might check 
around. 
Other than that, tapping the screwdriver handle with a plastic mallet will 
sometimes help loosen them. Get someone to support the lens. Then while holding 
the screwdriver in the screws slot, smack the driver's handle a few times. The 
shock transmited to the screw can help loosen it. But you will need drivers 
that fit the screws perfectly.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> You're not helping.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > A good repair shop.
> >
> >
> >  -- Original message --
> > From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >   
> >> My first problem.  I hit the screw heads holding the lens mount on with 
> >> a soldering Iron each for about 3 minutes.  Two screws came out nice as 
> >> pie.  the other three are stuck hard.  I've caused a little damage to 
> >> two of them, but they still should work.  I tried more heat for a longer 
> >> time on one of them.  No joy. I need a new plan.  I'm hoping someone 
> >> here has an idea.
> >>
> >> P. J. Alling wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Well it finally happened.  My F 70-210mm jammed.  Some of you may 
> >>> remember Powell's 70-210mm repair, and the problem he had with the 
> >>> information brush.  (for those who need a reminder 
> >>> http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/lenses.htm ).  It seems to happen no 
> >>> matter what you do.  I'm on my way to disassembling mine in an attempt 
> >>> to repair it.  Unfortunately it jammed in the 70mm position with focus 
> >>> at infinity so the screws on the sleeve are in accessible.  I'm looking 
> >>> for advice if there is any.  Well I'm off to buy a new soldering iron 
> >>> since I can't find my old one, (hope that will be enough so that I won't 
> >>> need to buy a JIS crosspoint screwdriver.  I suppose I could simply 
> >>> replace it but this lens is too good not to try, and I'm too broke to 
> >>> send it to someone else to tell me it's unrepairable.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>>   
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Re: REBATES!!!

2007-06-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Good! The folks at Pentax USA have been very helpful when I needed  
stuff like this sorted out. :-)

Godfrey

On Jun 5, 2007, at 12:05 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

> I called Pentax and spoke with Mark (Davis) this AM. The  
> information he
> requested is already in the mail. Says when received, he will contact
> Express Group and authorize the rebate.
> Thanks again for the unsolicited help.


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Re: A quick Picasa web gallery

2007-06-05 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 6/5/2007 12:56:46 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
David J Brooks  wrote:

>http://picasaweb.google.com/pentkon52/GFM07

Nice  Photoshop job, Dave. But I'm gonna spoil the party and post the 
original,  unaltered  photo:
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/big-3.jpg


=
LOL.  That's what it looked like to me too, actually.

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Re: My return to GFM

2007-06-05 Thread Cotty
On 5/6/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Which you absolutely *must* post on your web site as an MP3...

Ergads. That might be tricky...

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Re: Pentax Photo Gallery Response

2007-06-05 Thread Cotty
On 5/6/07, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Only a few have their harthats on waiting for the sky to
>fall.

A few more have their harts in their mouths  ;-))

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Re: A quick Picasa web gallery

2007-06-05 Thread Cotty
On 5/6/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Nice Photoshop job, Dave. But I'm gonna spoil the party and post the 
>original, unaltered photo:
>http://www.robertstech.com/temp/big-3.jpg


My eardrums have just burst. Alma looked over my shoulder at that.

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Re: Yet another PESO

2007-06-05 Thread Russell Kerstetter
doesn't look cartoony to me, I like it

Russ

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> This is probably becoming tedious
>
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/rockform1.html
> I cartoonized the colour slightly, but not by all that much
>
> Have fun
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Re: A quick Picasa web gallery

2007-06-05 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 6/5/2007 11:55:32 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:
http://picasaweb.google.com/pentkon52/GFM07

Just had a quick  look through the files, and i put up these few to get
us started.
No  adjustments, justa resize and  SFW

Enjoy

Dave

===
I don't know, pretty mean  looking guy about the sixth picture in. But some 
very nice eagles shots. Bear  shots aren't bad either. 

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Re: F 70-210 blues.

2007-06-05 Thread Toine
I tried to disassemble a fungus infected F35-70 for fun. I couldn't
find JIS screwdrivers, instead I used PH000 and PH00 drivers from an
electronics shop. They fit ok. You need to apply a lot of pressure!
The screws on my F35-70 didn't need heating. I did notice some screws
had some kind of glue (locktite) applied. I planned to hacksaw a
screwdriver tip and insert it in an soldering iron. Maybe this helps

The fungus is gone but reassembling is the hard part!

On 6/5/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well it finally happened.  My F 70-210mm jammed.  Some of you may
> remember Powell's 70-210mm repair, and the problem he had with the
> information brush.  (for those who need a reminder
> http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/lenses.htm ).  It seems to happen no
> matter what you do.  I'm on my way to disassembling mine in an attempt
> to repair it.  Unfortunately it jammed in the 70mm position with focus
> at infinity so the screws on the sleeve are in accessible.  I'm looking
> for advice if there is any.  Well I'm off to buy a new soldering iron
> since I can't find my old one, (hope that will be enough so that I won't
> need to buy a JIS crosspoint screwdriver.  I suppose I could simply
> replace it but this lens is too good not to try, and I'm too broke to
> send it to someone else to tell me it's unrepairable.
>
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Re: F 70-210 blues.

2007-06-05 Thread P. J. Alling
Last lens I had repaired around here cost me $135.00, for a much simpler 
job.  Labor isn't cheep in New England.  Since that's more than I paid 
for the lens and  buying a new use one looks like it would run me about 
175 in KEH bargain condition.  I think I'll attempt a repair first.  If 
it fails a new used lens is probably order.

Collin R Brendemuehl wrote:
> Given how deep the problem appears to be, maybe the $75 or so
> to have a shop repair it could save the possible headache of
> potentially doing it wrong.
>
> At 02:52 PM 6/5/2007, you wrote:
>   
>> Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 14:55:31 -0400
>> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: F 70-210 blues.
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> Well it finally happened.  My F 70-210mm jammed.  Some of you may
>> remember Powell's 70-210mm repair, and the problem he had with the
>> information brush.  (for those who need a reminder
>> http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/lenses.htm ).  It seems to happen no
>> matter what you do.  I'm on my way to disassembling mine in an attempt
>> to repair it.  Unfortunately it jammed in the 70mm position with focus
>> at infinity so the screws on the sleeve are in accessible.  I'm looking
>> for advice if there is any.  Well I'm off to buy a new soldering iron
>> since I can't find my old one, (hope that will be enough so that I won't
>> need to buy a JIS crosspoint screwdriver.  I suppose I could simply
>> replace it but this lens is too good not to try, and I'm too broke to
>> send it to someone else to tell me it's unrepairable.
>> 
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
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Re: F 70-210 blues.

2007-06-05 Thread Norm Baugher
A bigger hammer?
Norm

P. J. Alling wrote:
> You're not helping.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>   
>> A good repair shop.
>>
>>
>>  -- Original message --
>> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>   
>> 
>>> My first problem.  I hit the screw heads holding the lens mount on with 
>>> a soldering Iron each for about 3 minutes.  Two screws came out nice as 
>>> pie.  the other three are stuck hard.  I've caused a little damage to 
>>> two of them, but they still should work.  I tried more heat for a longer 
>>> time on one of them.  No joy. I need a new plan.  I'm hoping someone 
>>> here has an idea.
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Re: K10d FA*80-200 f/2.8 consistent overexposure unless fully open?

2007-06-05 Thread Peter Fairweather
Hardly worth the cost of repair. I'll take it off your hands if you
pay half the postage ;>)


On 05/06/07, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sounds like a classic example of a sticky aperture lever. Flip the lever
> on the lens a couple times, if it's at all slow in returning, get the
> lens CLA'd.
>
> -Adam
>
>
> Axel Belinfante wrote:
> > I just subscribed to the list, essentially to ask the question below.
> >
> > I recently got myself a K10d.  When I use the kit 18-55 mm
> > and a FA*28-70 f/2.8 everything seems to work fine.
> >
> > However, with my FA*80-200 f/2.8 (aperture ring set to A)
> > I seem to get consistent overexposure (2 stops or so?),
> > _except_ when using it fully open (at 2.8)  using the
> > hyper-program shifting or by using Av mode at 2.8.
> >
> > It almost makes me feel there is something wrong with
> > the way the camera tries to set aperture on the lens
> > (which would explain why it works fine at 2.8:
> > then it doesn't have to do anything so it works).
> > Would that be a valid explanation?
> >
> > Setting aperture using the ring on the lens, and
> > then using lcd-preview gives me correct (not overexposed)
> > preview shots.
> >
> > I have not been using the lens so much recently; in the
> > somewhat longer past I've been using it on a Z1 shooting
> > slides (last serious usage about a year ago, at the coast)
> > and I don't recall this kind of consistent overexposure.
> > I should probably just do some test shots with the Z1
> > but haven't found the time.
> >
> > Sending the stuff in to pentax service, or even better,
> > visiting them, would have been another option except
> > that the dutch pentax service told me they send these
> > kind of things to pentax europe in Hamburg
> > (which doesn't really matter, except that if the dutch
> > pentax service in Breda would still have existed I would
> > just have visited them there and explained the issue)
> > and except for the wrong-time-of-the-year problem
> > (I've been told that due to holiday season it might
> > take weeks until I would get it back :-(
> >
> >
> >
> > Don't know if this is the right forum for these kind of questions;
> > I have seen there are multiple pentax forums out there, but don't
> > know how they differ. Any thoughts?
> >
> > Minor suggestion: inclusion of (pointer to) PDML mini-faq
> > on the mailing list web page (and/or in list welcome message)
> > could be useful, if only to be able to appreciate the acronyms.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Axel.
> >
> >
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Re: PESO - Rush Hour

2007-06-05 Thread Russell Kerstetter
The guys up front are a bit blurry, but maybe that is part of why it
reminds me of riding the bus in Monterrey, nice concept though.

Russ

On 6/5/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Jun 5, 2007, at 10:14 AM, frank theriault wrote:
>
> > Rained yesterday morning, so I took transit to work.  Sun was out for
> > my commute home.  Toronto's subway rides above ground in some places,
> > and I thought it looked kind of cool with the sun illuminating the
> > crowded car:
> >
> > http://gmapuploader.com/iframe.php?mapId=KDtkGhx8GL
>
> I like the photo, but it needs a different rendering. It would work
> much better to my eye in B&W. Also, would be good if the foreground
> were in focus ... I always find a blurry object in the foreground a
> distraction.
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Re: F 70-210 blues.

2007-06-05 Thread P. J. Alling
You're not helping.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> A good repair shop.
>
>
>  -- Original message --
> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   
>> My first problem.  I hit the screw heads holding the lens mount on with 
>> a soldering Iron each for about 3 minutes.  Two screws came out nice as 
>> pie.  the other three are stuck hard.  I've caused a little damage to 
>> two of them, but they still should work.  I tried more heat for a longer 
>> time on one of them.  No joy. I need a new plan.  I'm hoping someone 
>> here has an idea.
>>
>> P. J. Alling wrote:
>> 
>>> Well it finally happened.  My F 70-210mm jammed.  Some of you may 
>>> remember Powell's 70-210mm repair, and the problem he had with the 
>>> information brush.  (for those who need a reminder 
>>> http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/lenses.htm ).  It seems to happen no 
>>> matter what you do.  I'm on my way to disassembling mine in an attempt 
>>> to repair it.  Unfortunately it jammed in the 70mm position with focus 
>>> at infinity so the screws on the sleeve are in accessible.  I'm looking 
>>> for advice if there is any.  Well I'm off to buy a new soldering iron 
>>> since I can't find my old one, (hope that will be enough so that I won't 
>>> need to buy a JIS crosspoint screwdriver.  I suppose I could simply 
>>> replace it but this lens is too good not to try, and I'm too broke to 
>>> send it to someone else to tell me it's unrepairable.
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
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Re: A quick Picasa web gallery

2007-06-05 Thread pnstenquist
That's a hoot! And nice work.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On 5/6/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >Nice Photoshop job, Dave. But I'm gonna spoil the party and post the 
> >original, unaltered photo:
> >http://www.robertstech.com/temp/big-3.jpg
> 
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Re: F 70-210 blues.

2007-06-05 Thread P. J. Alling
Not an option unfortunately.  The brush was ruined before I opened the 
lens.  As it appears to be made out of unobtainium, that will stop most 
repair shops right there.  I can probably manufacture a brush out of a 
stiff wire, (the Nichrome wire used for old Estes rocket igniters seems 
to be a good thickness and about the right stiffness, though the 
resistance is probably much too high, but it's a starting point).  I 
really need suggestions for getting the initial screws out of the lens 
mount without ruining them..

Collin R Brendemuehl wrote:
> Given how deep the problem appears to be, maybe the $75 or so
> to have a shop repair it could save the possible headache of
> potentially doing it wrong.
>
> At 02:52 PM 6/5/2007, you wrote:
>   
>> Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 14:55:31 -0400
>> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: F 70-210 blues.
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> Well it finally happened.  My F 70-210mm jammed.  Some of you may
>> remember Powell's 70-210mm repair, and the problem he had with the
>> information brush.  (for those who need a reminder
>> http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/lenses.htm ).  It seems to happen no
>> matter what you do.  I'm on my way to disassembling mine in an attempt
>> to repair it.  Unfortunately it jammed in the 70mm position with focus
>> at infinity so the screws on the sleeve are in accessible.  I'm looking
>> for advice if there is any.  Well I'm off to buy a new soldering iron
>> since I can't find my old one, (hope that will be enough so that I won't
>> need to buy a JIS crosspoint screwdriver.  I suppose I could simply
>> replace it but this lens is too good not to try, and I'm too broke to
>> send it to someone else to tell me it's unrepairable.
>> 
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Collin Brendemuehl
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Re: F 70-210 blues.

2007-06-05 Thread pnstenquist
A good repair shop.


 -- Original message --
From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> My first problem.  I hit the screw heads holding the lens mount on with 
> a soldering Iron each for about 3 minutes.  Two screws came out nice as 
> pie.  the other three are stuck hard.  I've caused a little damage to 
> two of them, but they still should work.  I tried more heat for a longer 
> time on one of them.  No joy. I need a new plan.  I'm hoping someone 
> here has an idea.
> 
> P. J. Alling wrote:
> > Well it finally happened.  My F 70-210mm jammed.  Some of you may 
> > remember Powell's 70-210mm repair, and the problem he had with the 
> > information brush.  (for those who need a reminder 
> > http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/lenses.htm ).  It seems to happen no 
> > matter what you do.  I'm on my way to disassembling mine in an attempt 
> > to repair it.  Unfortunately it jammed in the 70mm position with focus 
> > at infinity so the screws on the sleeve are in accessible.  I'm looking 
> > for advice if there is any.  Well I'm off to buy a new soldering iron 
> > since I can't find my old one, (hope that will be enough so that I won't 
> > need to buy a JIS crosspoint screwdriver.  I suppose I could simply 
> > replace it but this lens is too good not to try, and I'm too broke to 
> > send it to someone else to tell me it's unrepairable.
> >
> >
> >   
> 
> 
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Re: Peso: Dried Mud

2007-06-05 Thread Russell Kerstetter
Nice Bill!  Good exposure, and composition.  What are the fuzzy
diagonals in the corners and where is this?

Russ

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> Pretty self explanatory.
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/drymud.html
> Shot with the 12-24 lens at 12mm. Corner sharpness is a bit off with this
> lens.
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Re: F 70-210 blues.

2007-06-05 Thread P. J. Alling
My first problem.  I hit the screw heads holding the lens mount on with 
a soldering Iron each for about 3 minutes.  Two screws came out nice as 
pie.  the other three are stuck hard.  I've caused a little damage to 
two of them, but they still should work.  I tried more heat for a longer 
time on one of them.  No joy. I need a new plan.  I'm hoping someone 
here has an idea.

P. J. Alling wrote:
> Well it finally happened.  My F 70-210mm jammed.  Some of you may 
> remember Powell's 70-210mm repair, and the problem he had with the 
> information brush.  (for those who need a reminder 
> http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/lenses.htm ).  It seems to happen no 
> matter what you do.  I'm on my way to disassembling mine in an attempt 
> to repair it.  Unfortunately it jammed in the 70mm position with focus 
> at infinity so the screws on the sleeve are in accessible.  I'm looking 
> for advice if there is any.  Well I'm off to buy a new soldering iron 
> since I can't find my old one, (hope that will be enough so that I won't 
> need to buy a JIS crosspoint screwdriver.  I suppose I could simply 
> replace it but this lens is too good not to try, and I'm too broke to 
> send it to someone else to tell me it's unrepairable.
>
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Re: Peso: Dried Mud

2007-06-05 Thread Mark Roberts
William Robb wrote:

> Pretty self explanatory.
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/drymud.html

Great stuff. Glad to see you got some good photography out of your 
aborted trip to GFM. Hope to see you in person next year.



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Re: Peso: Dried Mud

2007-06-05 Thread Norm Baugher
Beautiful.

William Robb wrote:
> Pretty self explanatory.
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/drymud.html
> Shot with the 12-24 lens at 12mm. Corner sharpness is a bit off with this 
> lens.
>
> William Robb 
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Re: A quick Picasa web gallery

2007-06-05 Thread Cotty
On 5/6/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Nice Photoshop job, Dave. But I'm gonna spoil the party and post the 
>original, unaltered photo:
>http://www.robertstech.com/temp/big-3.jpg


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RE: GFM - The People of the PDML

2007-06-05 Thread Bob W
> 
> >This bijou little Land Roverette has been parked around the corner
> >from my place for the last couple of weeks:
> >
> >http://www.web-options.com/LR.jpg
> >
> >It's probably full of ex-SAS mercenaries. (It's the lace 
> curtains that
> >give them away every time)
> 
> It's a 101 Forward Control. Nice grab with the bloke walking past!
> 

thanks for the info. I'll have it tattooed on my knees so I don't
forget. 

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Re: F 70-210 blues.

2007-06-05 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl
Given how deep the problem appears to be, maybe the $75 or so
to have a shop repair it could save the possible headache of
potentially doing it wrong.

At 02:52 PM 6/5/2007, you wrote:
>Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 14:55:31 -0400
>From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: F 70-210 blues.
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>Well it finally happened.  My F 70-210mm jammed.  Some of you may
>remember Powell's 70-210mm repair, and the problem he had with the
>information brush.  (for those who need a reminder
>http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/lenses.htm ).  It seems to happen no
>matter what you do.  I'm on my way to disassembling mine in an attempt
>to repair it.  Unfortunately it jammed in the 70mm position with focus
>at infinity so the screws on the sleeve are in accessible.  I'm looking
>for advice if there is any.  Well I'm off to buy a new soldering iron
>since I can't find my old one, (hope that will be enough so that I won't
>need to buy a JIS crosspoint screwdriver.  I suppose I could simply
>replace it but this lens is too good not to try, and I'm too broke to
>send it to someone else to tell me it's unrepairable.


Sincerely,

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RE: GFM - The People of the PDML

2007-06-05 Thread Bob W
Aussies have never been able to tell the difference between men and
women. Either that or they don't care. It explains a lot of the
behaviour you see around Earl's Court of an evening.

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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Brian Walters
> Sent: 05 June 2007 11:08
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: GFM - The People of the PDML
> 
> My apologies
> 
> The size of the camera and lens distracted me
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney, Australia
> http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/
> 
> Quoting Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > On 4/6/07, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:
> > 
> > > and is that Cotty behind the EOS?)
> > 
> > ROTFL
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Re: My return to GFM

2007-06-05 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote:

>I need sleep now, but just a quick note to say that I spoke to 
>Norm - he left a message on my ansaphone

Which you absolutely *must* post on your web site as an MP3...


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Re: K10d FA*80-200 f/2.8 consistent overexposure unless fully open?

2007-06-05 Thread Adam Maas
Sounds like a classic example of a sticky aperture lever. Flip the lever 
on the lens a couple times, if it's at all slow in returning, get the 
lens CLA'd.

-Adam


Axel Belinfante wrote:
> I just subscribed to the list, essentially to ask the question below.
>
> I recently got myself a K10d.  When I use the kit 18-55 mm
> and a FA*28-70 f/2.8 everything seems to work fine.
>
> However, with my FA*80-200 f/2.8 (aperture ring set to A)
> I seem to get consistent overexposure (2 stops or so?),
> _except_ when using it fully open (at 2.8)  using the
> hyper-program shifting or by using Av mode at 2.8.
>
> It almost makes me feel there is something wrong with
> the way the camera tries to set aperture on the lens
> (which would explain why it works fine at 2.8:
> then it doesn't have to do anything so it works).
> Would that be a valid explanation?
>
> Setting aperture using the ring on the lens, and
> then using lcd-preview gives me correct (not overexposed)
> preview shots.
>
> I have not been using the lens so much recently; in the
> somewhat longer past I've been using it on a Z1 shooting
> slides (last serious usage about a year ago, at the coast)
> and I don't recall this kind of consistent overexposure.
> I should probably just do some test shots with the Z1
> but haven't found the time.
>
> Sending the stuff in to pentax service, or even better,
> visiting them, would have been another option except
> that the dutch pentax service told me they send these
> kind of things to pentax europe in Hamburg
> (which doesn't really matter, except that if the dutch
> pentax service in Breda would still have existed I would
> just have visited them there and explained the issue)
> and except for the wrong-time-of-the-year problem
> (I've been told that due to holiday season it might
> take weeks until I would get it back :-(
>
>
>
> Don't know if this is the right forum for these kind of questions;
> I have seen there are multiple pentax forums out there, but don't
> know how they differ. Any thoughts?
>
> Minor suggestion: inclusion of (pointer to) PDML mini-faq
> on the mailing list web page (and/or in list welcome message)
> could be useful, if only to be able to appreciate the acronyms.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Axel.
>
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Re: A quick Picasa web gallery

2007-06-05 Thread Mark Roberts
David J Brooks wrote:

>http://picasaweb.google.com/pentkon52/GFM07

Nice Photoshop job, Dave. But I'm gonna spoil the party and post the 
original, unaltered photo:
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/big-3.jpg



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Re: A quick Picasa web gallery

2007-06-05 Thread Cotty
On 5/6/07, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

>http://picasaweb.google.com/pentkon52/GFM07
>
>Just had a quick look through the files, and i put up these few to get
>us started.
>No adjustments, justa resize and SFW

GREAT gallery Dave (awake now)

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RE: My Lightroom library is messed up

2007-06-05 Thread Bob W
Not my fault, mate. All I did was give you what you asked for, and
gave it you straight. No mush.

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> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Tim Øsleby
> Sent: 05 June 2007 10:28
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> Subject: Re: My Lightroom library is messed up
> 
> I blame Bob ;-)
> 
> Tim Typo
> Mostly Harless
> 
> - Original Message - 
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> 
> 
> > In a message dated 6/4/2007 4:55:02 P.M. Pacific  Daylight Time,
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> > That simple? Done. Everything back to  normal :-)
> > Have I ever told you how much I love you?
> >
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> >
> > 
> > This list simply gets too mushy  sometimes.
> >
> > Marnie aka Doe  ;-)
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Re: motes and moats

2007-06-05 Thread Tom C
>From: Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>Subject: Re: motes and moats
>Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 14:16:35 -0400
>
>Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> > My third grade spelling teacher would have a fit. :-)
> >
> > mote: noun,  a tiny piece of a substance e.g.: "... a mote of dust ..."
>
>Well... it IS Tom we're talking about here :-D
>
>Christian
>http://photography.skofteland.net

I realized I had misspelled it almost simultaneously with pressing . 
:-)

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Re: K10d FA*80-200 f/2.8 consistent overexposure unless fully open?

2007-06-05 Thread pnstenquist
Sounds like sticky aperture blades. They're not stopping down fast enough. The 
lens will ned a CLA.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Axel Belinfante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I just subscribed to the list, essentially to ask the question below.
> 
> I recently got myself a K10d.  When I use the kit 18-55 mm
> and a FA*28-70 f/2.8 everything seems to work fine.
> 
> However, with my FA*80-200 f/2.8 (aperture ring set to A)
> I seem to get consistent overexposure (2 stops or so?),
> _except_ when using it fully open (at 2.8)  using the
> hyper-program shifting or by using Av mode at 2.8.
> 
> It almost makes me feel there is something wrong with
> the way the camera tries to set aperture on the lens
> (which would explain why it works fine at 2.8:
> then it doesn't have to do anything so it works).
> Would that be a valid explanation?
> 
> Setting aperture using the ring on the lens, and
> then using lcd-preview gives me correct (not overexposed)
> preview shots.
> 
> I have not been using the lens so much recently; in the
> somewhat longer past I've been using it on a Z1 shooting
> slides (last serious usage about a year ago, at the coast)
> and I don't recall this kind of consistent overexposure.
> I should probably just do some test shots with the Z1
> but haven't found the time.
> 
> Sending the stuff in to pentax service, or even better,
> visiting them, would have been another option except
> that the dutch pentax service told me they send these
> kind of things to pentax europe in Hamburg
> (which doesn't really matter, except that if the dutch
> pentax service in Breda would still have existed I would
> just have visited them there and explained the issue)
> and except for the wrong-time-of-the-year problem
> (I've been told that due to holiday season it might
> take weeks until I would get it back :-(
> 
> 
> 
> Don't know if this is the right forum for these kind of questions;
> I have seen there are multiple pentax forums out there, but don't
> know how they differ. Any thoughts?
> 
> Minor suggestion: inclusion of (pointer to) PDML mini-faq
> on the mailing list web page (and/or in list welcome message)
> could be useful, if only to be able to appreciate the acronyms.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Axel.
> 
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Re: GFM - Homo at last

2007-06-05 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote:

>Arrived back. Sleep first. The eat. Then work. Then pics.

Subject line.
10-foot pole.



Nope. No way.


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Re: I'm back from GFM or, who put the kick me sign on the back of my truck

2007-06-05 Thread graywolf
The magic word is, I think, "seminar", as in I am on my way to a seminar in NC. 
People are going to and coming from seminars all the time. That means the 
border people do not have to think. Making them try, gets them all pissed off, 
as you know. 

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David J Brooks wrote:
> Phwhooo. What a great weekend.
> 
> Arrived about 12:30 this morning, and went right to bed. Got up around
> 8:30 to more rain.LOL
> 
> Don, thanks muchly for the hospitality and stew. Mark you don't know
> what you missed.:-) Bill, it was good to see you again and in better
> spirits.
> 
> It was great to see everyone again, and meet the new folk to. Cotty
> and Dave S are great people to hang with. Cesar is well, Cesar, :-)
> Cotty's friend Brian and i have a common ground. Horses are sucking
> our wallets dry.:-)
> 
> Thanks to Cory for having the forethought to buy a trailer with a rain
> hat, and lurker for trinkets again.
> Scott, your stories are funny. Good to see Tom and Susan again, but
> Sue has to go and play in the big sand box now.LOL.Congrats on your
> win.
> 
> Seems Doug, Mark and Nico can be kept entertained with $2.00 laser
> pens. Remember its all fun till someone loses an eye.
> 
> Ann, Rick, it was great to see you again, and Mat gets the all weather
> award for bringing the bike again.Kept bumping into Bob in McDonalds
> for some reason. Must be good macro op's there.LOL
> Ken Waller had a lovely flower shots that won 1st place.
> 
> If i left out anyone i'm sorry.
> 
> Neighbour Bruce, was a nice fellow, and had a great "Arthur, King of
> the Britons" shot. Hope we did not keep you up to much.
> 
> Mark and I had a nice relaxing start to the drive home, breakfast at
> the Whistle stop in Warrensville, two Fstops up, then a nice drive
> back to the cabin to turn the water off.:-)
> 
> Drive down and back was very good, low traffic and little to no
> construction. After unpacking Marks gear, i reviewed the directions
> out of Pittsburg with Mark. Seems a change due to construction was
> needed and a new route devised.
> This is when i found someone had put a "Kick me' sign on my truck. As
> i was navigating 5th Street or Ave, not really sure at this point, i
> noticed a young pup in a Honda Civic behind me, not really paying
> attention to his driving. I decided to put my parking lights on, so he
> would perhaps notice me better. No sooner had i done so, when he ran
> into the back of me. Hand waving and mouthing, I'm sorry did not keep
> me from getting out to investigate. This apparently pissed off the
> several million drivers behind us.
> 
> Oh i forgot to mention, this was during rush hour.
> 
> Zero damage to my truck bumper and none to his car, like i gave a S&***T.
> 
> A quick left and two rights and the journey home began.
> 
> Ok, now i have to ask this. What is it about the phrase, i'm going to,
> or i have been, in NC camping and doing some photography, that border
> gaurds cannot seem to comprehend.
> I had a bit of a hassle both going down AND coming back home. Seems
> the US guard was taken aback that i was camping but not bringing food.
> When i mentiioned i was buying it locally, she let me on my way.
> The Canadian guard, seemed to have a hard time with it to, when asked
> what i was doing in NC, but let me through anyway. See being cute
> still has its advantages.:-)
> 
> The presentations were good, although the one on LR PS etc left a lot
> to be desired.
> 
> Mark Cassino's presentation was great, and his phots are stunning.
> Dick G's on how to travel was long but interesting. Don M's to wind
> things up was good.
> Tony Sweet had some amazing stuff to show, but lost me in the infomercial.
> 
> The awards by Mark and Doug were hilarius as always and again let me
> point out lasers are NOT our friends.LOL
> 
> One of mine made it to the dishonerable catagory, to which i was happy
> it made it that far. The comments on why it missed out are noted and
> i'll try and make the adjustments.
> 
> 
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6054586
> 
> All in all a fantastic weekend, and i eventhough most of the reason i
> go now is for the friendships, i feel this weekend helps in developing
> an "eye" for nature.
> 
> I hope to make it again next year, but we'll have to see what work i
> have and if a week off can be arranged.
> 
> I'll have some pics up soon as i'm sure others will.
> 
> Dave
> 
> PS its time for  a collection to buy Cory a CD burner.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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