RE: Monitors

[Antti-Pekka Virjonen]

I am very happy with my 2 year old Eizo 20.1".

Antti-Pekka



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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Godfrey DiGiorgi
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 9:11 AM
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> Subject: Re: Monitors
> 
> On Aug 16, 2007, at 10:14 PM, William Robb wrote:
> 
> >> Any recommendations?
> >
> > A couple of the pro boys I know went from CRTs to Eizo ColorEdge
> > monitors
> > and are quite happy.
> 
> The EIZO monitors are very nice but very pricey. It's hard to go
> wrong with an Apple Cinema Display 23" at half the price, presuming
> you have a video card that supports it.
> 
> Godfrey
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Re: Monitors

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Aug 16, 2007, at 10:14 PM, William Robb wrote:

>> Any recommendations?
>
> A couple of the pro boys I know went from CRTs to Eizo ColorEdge  
> monitors
> and are quite happy.

The EIZO monitors are very nice but very pricey. It's hard to go  
wrong with an Apple Cinema Display 23" at half the price, presuming  
you have a video card that supports it.

Godfrey


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Re: Monitors

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
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Subject: OT: Monitors



> Any recommendations?

A couple of the pro boys I know went from CRTs to Eizo ColorEdge monitors 
and are quite happy.

William Robb 


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OT: Monitors

[David Savage]

G'day All

So last night I'm reading the PDML, surfing the web & trying to get my
repaired PC back up to date, when all of a sudden my CRT main monitor
makes a sound & flickers like it's decided it needs to degauss. When
the screen comes back to life I've got these very pretty, but
seriously useless, "polarized glass" rainbow colours & nothing else.

"Bugger" I say.

While I like LCD's for their space saving size (my secondary display
is an LCD) I still prefer CRT's for their ability to render decent
blacks.

The computer god's haven't been smiling on me this year. Now the
search for a replacement begins.

^*&(@#^*()&@#*(

Any recommendations?

Cheers,

Dave (I needed to vent) Savage

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PESO: Thursday Night Dream Crise

[Paul Stenquist]

I decided to go for a crisper look tonight. Switched to the FA 35/2  
so I could get closer and used the 540 Pentax flash in trailing  
curtain synch mode. Exposures were 1.4 second.
Paul

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6315560&size=lg
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6315556&size=lg


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PESO Monhegen Tug

[John Graves]

Ann,

I don't know if this is rocky enough but it is a fixture on Monhegen.  I 
remember climbing over it 50 years ago.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jhg2/

I have re-edited the Tilt-A-Whirl and would appreciate comments on that 
picture.  Regarding my flowers,  can I ad some blur by masking it out 
and using a Gaussian blur filter on it?

John G.

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Re: Peso, my next truck, one for Steady

[Paul Stenquist]

Now that's a PICKUP. Nice shot, nice truck.
Paul
On Aug 16, 2007, at 10:27 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

> From:
> "David J Brooks"
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6314756
>>
>> This was in the parade yesterday. I had heard of this International
>> pick up truck.
>>
>> Think we ccould get all three of us to GFM in it next year, Mark  
>> and Frank.
>>
>> Dave
> And for what you'll spend on gas gettin' there, you could buy that  
> type
> 57SC Bugatti Godfrey was talking about buying.
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Re: K10D AS system

[John Sessoms]

From:
Godfrey DiGiorgi
> On Aug 16, 2007, at 4:51 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:
>> When /was/ the last mountain building phase that affected the British 
>> Isles?
> Ask the Magratheans ...  I'm sure old Slartibartfast would be happy to 
> ramble on about it. 
Well, probably if you asked him when the last fjord building phase was ...

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Peso, my next truck, one for Steady

[John Sessoms]

From:
"David J Brooks"
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6314756
>
> This was in the parade yesterday. I had heard of this International
> pick up truck.
>
> Think we ccould get all three of us to GFM in it next year, Mark and Frank.
>
> Dave
And for what you'll spend on gas gettin' there, you could buy that type 
57SC Bugatti Godfrey was talking about buying.

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Re: K10D AS system [OT] water restrictions

[P. J. Alling]

You forgot to account for the probability of all three...

Bob Blakely wrote:
> Let's see...
>
> 1.You can water all you want if you have a well.
> 2.You are not allowed to dig a well.
>
> I guess this is the Aussie version of "Catch 22".
>
> Don't you folks have rights to your own property? Do you actually elect the 
> twits that give you these laws? Were they all sadistic comedians in a former 
> life?
>
> Regards,
> Bob...
> 
> "Life isn't like a box of chocolates . .
> it's more like a jar of jalapenos.
> What you do today, might burn your butt tomorrow."
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
>   
>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 10:25:53 -0700, Bob Blakely wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Gotta getta well!
>>>   
>> we are not allowed to dig one.
>> 
>
>
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Re: K10D AS system [OT] water restrictions

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Blakely"
Subject: Re: K10D AS system [OT] water restrictions


> When I lived in San Antonio, Texas, the underground was a giant aquifer. 
> In
> fact, the San Antonio river comes bubbling out of the ground there. Many
> folks have wells. The water is not far down, but you do have to drill
> through some limestone to get to it, then it may gush out.

We have weird groundwater here. I happen to live on top of a huge aquifers, 
and there are some artesian wells in the area. Not far south of us, you 
leave the Wascana Basin and are into a completely different geology. The 
water is deeper down, not as abundant, and often is sitting over a layer of 
oil even deeper down. The reason they don't mix is because the soil layer is 
over a mile deep before you hit bedrock, and is of heavy clay type.
My brother in law lives about 20 miles north of here, his well is close to 
400' deep, and his water quality is very iron heavy, to the point of being 
barely drinkable, and is very slow to revover if he pumps any volume. I 
witched his entire property for him (a weird talent that surprised me), and 
found the only source of water below him.
 A mere 1/4 mile from him one way is a series of artesian wells, and within 
an eighth of a mile the other way the groundwater is so shallow and 
plentiful that the local vegetable farmers irrigate with it rather than pump 
water from the Qu'Appelle river which runs through the valley they are in.

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Re: Enabled

[David Savage]

At 04:47 AM 17/08/2007, frank theriault wrote:
>Biting my tongue.  Biting my tongue...

Why mate? Doesn't that hurt?

Cheers,

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Re: subject for Sept PUG ?

[ann sanfedele]

Brian Walters wrote:

>Hi Ann
>
>Quoting ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>  
>
>>sending this both to Scott and the list  in case he his reading his
>>
>>regular mail but not the list :) :)
>>
>>also -
>>The clickables on the page don't work -- You may shoot me for
>>mentioning 
>>this again  - but is
>>there another link to get to the older stuff?  and the theme page?
>>
>>Try this:
>>
>>http://pug.komkon.org/general/themes.html
>>
>>
>>If you mean the clickables on this page:
>>
>>http://pug.komkon.org/
>>
>>They work for me - but the whole line isn't clickable.  You need to move the 
>>cursor to the end of each line to find the active link (usually the word 
>>"here").
>>
>>Cheers
>>
>>Brian
>>
DUH!-  just habit thinking the whole line  works --  I'm used to 
links having underlines, too
thanks - I got that to work  -  Now I have to look for something strange 
in my archives :)
(shouldn't be too hard har!)
 




>>
>>++
>>Brian Walters
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Re: PESO It's a mouse, it's a peg no it's a...

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Sullivan"
Subject: Re: PESO It's a mouse, it's a peg no it's a...


> Bill,
> You need some Raid or something.
> Stay out of trouble!

Thanks Bob. I'm well on the mend now.
The infection I got is called Cellulitis, and is yer basic Staphylococcus 
infection.
It's almost guaranteed to happen with digger wasp stings in my area. This is 
the second time I've had one of these run-ins. I intend to make a concerted 
effort to find and eradicate the nest this weekend. I'm not sure if it is on 
my property or my neighbour's, but I'm pretty sure it is near my driveway.

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Re: K10D AS system [OT] water restrictions

[Bob Blakely]

When I lived in San Antonio, Texas, the underground was a giant aquifer. In 
fact, the San Antonio river comes bubbling out of the ground there. Many 
folks have wells. The water is not far down, but you do have to drill 
through some limestone to get to it, then it may gush out.

Regards,
Bob...

"Life isn't like a box of chocolates . .
it's more like a jar of jalapenos.
What you do today, might burn your butt tomorrow."

- Original Message - 
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Digital Image Studio"
> Subject: Re: K10D AS system [OT] water restrictions
>
>> If you appreciated the hydrology of the area and the potential for
>> (additional) salinity problems associated with overuse of groundwater
>> resources then you may understand why actions were taken to regulate
>> these resources.
>
> Southern Saskatchewan is an oil producing region, but over the past 
> several
> years, oil production slowed down as the wells were running dry. The big 
> oil
> solution was to pump groundwater into the wells, thereby displacing the 
> deep
> oil pockets up to a level that was pumpable.
> Now we are living with drought conditions worse than the dirty 30s, and
> there is little groundwater left to pump, and what is pumped has such a 
> high
> salinity content that it isn't potable anyway.
> This is what happens when you allow twits to run things.


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Re: K10D AS system [OT] water restrictions

[Bob Blakely]

Ok. Sorry Rob. I have no idea where Hurstville is. I didn't know you were 
within 100 miles of the sea... Some folks not far from where I live have 
similar restrictions, but I'm about 25 miles from the coast and without 
restrictions in this area.

Sorry.

Regards,
Bob...

"Life isn't like a box of chocolates . .
it's more like a jar of jalapenos.
What you do today, might burn your butt tomorrow."

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> On 17/08/07, Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Let's see...
>>
>> 1.You can water all you want if you have a well.
>> 2.You are not allowed to dig a well.
>>
>> I guess this is the Aussie version of "Catch 22".
>>
>> Don't you folks have rights to your own property? Do you actually elect 
>> the
>> twits that give you these laws? Were they all sadistic comedians in a 
>> former
>> life?
>
> If you appreciated the hydrology of the area and the potential for
> (additional) salinity problems associated with overuse of groundwater
> resources then you may understand why actions were taken to regulate
> these resources.


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Re: PESO It's a mouse, it's a peg no it's a...

[Bob Sullivan]

Bill,
You need some Raid or something.
Stay out of trouble!
Regards, Bob S.

On 8/12/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Joseph Tainter"
> Subject: PESO It's a mouse, it's a peg no it's a...
>
>
> > Not that I have much to talk about. I'm sitting here with an IV tube
> > stuck in my hand.
> >
>
> > Nothing serious we all hope.
> >
>
> Another damned wasp sting, another 2 days of forced nothing while they pump
> drugs into me.
> Apparently, wasps that build their nests underground (as opposed to the more
> visible paper wasps) carry a bacteria which is quite nasty.
>
> William Robb
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Re: K10D AS system

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Aug 16, 2007, at 4:51 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:

> When /was/ the last mountain building phase that affected the  
> British Isles?

Ask the Magratheans ...  I'm sure old Slartibartfast would be happy  
to ramble on about it.

G

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!

[keith_w]

Bob W wrote, quoting somebody:
>>> Let's see...
>>>
>>> 1.You can water all you want if you have a well.
>>> 2.You are not allowed to dig a well.
>>>
>>> I guess this is the Aussie version of "Catch 22".
>>>
>>> Don't you folks have rights to your own property? Do you 
>>> actually elect the twits that give you these laws?
>>> Were they all sadistic comedians in a former life?

Rob S. wrote:

>> If you appreciated the hydrology of the area and the potential for
>>(additional) salinity problems associated with overuse of groundwater
>> resources then you may understand why actions were taken to regulate
>> these resources.

While I do appreciate your point, we in Southern California have a similar 
problem. Depends on where you go, but for instance in MY area, we only had 
less than 4" of rain all last rainy season.
Our home is built on what amounts to adobe dirt.
When thoroughly dry, it's little different from fired clay...

I know for a fact that our dryness goes down at least 3 feet (900mm+), maybe 
twice that.
As you dig a trench, just below what passes for topsoil, you can run across 
breaks in the earth, large cracks you can't see the bottom of... THAT's dry!

Be well and conserve where you can. Hope for some steady precipitation soon. 

keith whaley




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Re: K10D AS system

[Doug Franklin]

Bob W wrote:

> My house is at the apex (?) of the large oxbow in the centre of the
> picture.

Dude, without even looking at the photo, you're toast.  Oxbows might
even be worse than alluvial plains (I think that's the term) for
flooding.  If you're going to live next to a river, make it a young one
rather than an old one.  Though I'd be surprised if there were very many
young rivers in Jolly Old Blighty. :-)

When /was/ the last mountain building phase that affected the British Isles?

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Re: K10D AS system [OT] water restrictions

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
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Subject: Re: K10D AS system [OT] water restrictions



> If you appreciated the hydrology of the area and the potential for
> (additional) salinity problems associated with overuse of groundwater
> resources then you may understand why actions were taken to regulate
> these resources.

Southern Saskatchewan is an oil producing region, but over the past several 
years, oil production slowed down as the wells were running dry. The big oil 
solution was to pump groundwater into the wells, thereby displacing the deep 
oil pockets up to a level that was pumpable.
Now we are living with drought conditions worse than the dirty 30s, and 
there is little groundwater left to pump, and what is pumped has such a high 
salinity content that it isn't potable anyway.
This is what happens when you allow twits to run things.

William Robb 


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Re: subject for Sept PUG ?

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Walters"
Subject: Re: subject for Sept PUG ?



>
> Try this:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/themes.html
>
>
> If you mean the clickables on this page:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/
>
> They work for me - but the whole line isn't clickable.  You need to move 
> the cursor to the end of each line to find the active link (usually the 
> word "here").

Sorry, that's probably my fault. I'm pretty sure I wrote those page 
templates.

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RE: K10D AS system [OT] water restrictions

[Bob W]

> > Let's see...
> >
> > 1.You can water all you want if you have a well.
> > 2.You are not allowed to dig a well.
> >
> > I guess this is the Aussie version of "Catch 22".
> >
> > Don't you folks have rights to your own property? Do you 
> actually elect the
> > twits that give you these laws? Were they all sadistic 
> comedians in a former
> > life?
> 
> If you appreciated the hydrology of the area and the potential for
> (additional) salinity problems associated with overuse of
groundwater
> resources then you may understand why actions were taken to regulate
> these resources.
> 

I don't think the severity of the drought is very widely realised or
understood outside Australia.

Bob


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Re: K10D AS system [OT] water restrictions

[jim]

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:27:12 -0700, Bob Blakely wrote:

In this time of drought, we cannot dig wells or even pump out of a well if we 
had one.
Something about the underground water reserves and preserving them.
We haven't had any good rain for at least 6 years. 
Any holes we dig in the yard, the ground is dry down to at least 600mm
Didn't want to dig any more as the ground was too hard.

James


>Let's see...

>1.You can water all you want if you have a well.
>2.You are not allowed to dig a well.

>I guess this is the Aussie version of "Catch 22".

>Don't you folks have rights to your own property? Do you actually elect the 
>twits that give you these laws? Were they all sadistic comedians in a former 
>life?




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Re: K10D AS system [OT] water restrictions

[Digital Image Studio]

On 17/08/07, Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Let's see...
>
> 1.You can water all you want if you have a well.
> 2.You are not allowed to dig a well.
>
> I guess this is the Aussie version of "Catch 22".
>
> Don't you folks have rights to your own property? Do you actually elect the
> twits that give you these laws? Were they all sadistic comedians in a former
> life?

If you appreciated the hydrology of the area and the potential for
(additional) salinity problems associated with overuse of groundwater
resources then you may understand why actions were taken to regulate
these resources.

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Re: A tree and a bridge

[cbwaters]

The IS a bird...
And three clouds...

Sheesh you guys... did you even LOOK at the photo?

HAR!
CW
seagull, left of frame just above the shoreline.


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> It could use a bird or two, as well... and maybe some vessel in the lake?
>
> Seriously: What a wonderful shot. I can imagine you want the entire
> tree, and a bit less of ground in the front. But the colours and the
> light, they are great
>
> Syb
>
> 2007/8/16, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> This image really needs some clouds.
>>
>> I'll be going over this tomorrow as I head into the U.P. for a weeklong
>> photo workshop.
>>
>> Kenneth Waller
>> http://tinyurl.com/272u2f
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "cbwaters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> Subject: PESO: A tree and a bridge
>>
>>
>> > I've finally started working on a gallery of photos from my recent
>> > pilgrimage to Northern Michigan.  This is the first of the public 
>> > photos
>> > (lots of family shots that you folks would be bored by).
>> > The Mackinaw Bridge, the world's third longest suspension bridge, is 
>> > fifty
>> > years old this year.
>> >
>> > http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/3314121#184338592-L-LB
>> >
>> > This side of the bridge is Lake Michigan and the other side is Lake 
>> > Huron.
>> >
>> > I'm REALLY pissed that I cut off the top of that tree.  I have another
>> > where
>> > I put the tree on the left but I don't like it as much... Or I 
>> > didn't
>> > until I saw that I'd topped the birch...
>> > Anyway, this was handheld with the K10 and the 18-55.
>> >
>> > Cory
>>
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Re: A tree and a bridge

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

It's a nice photo even as it is. It would be stronger if you hadn't  
clipped the tree, of course, and if there was more separation between  
the lower part of the tree's branches and the bridge behind it.

Otherwise, on my calibrated screen, it renders several points too cyan.

Godfrey


> I've finally started working on a gallery of photos from my recent
> pilgrimage to Northern Michigan.  This is the first of the public  
> photos
> (lots of family shots that you folks would be bored by).
> The Mackinaw Bridge, the world's third longest suspension bridge, is
> fifty years old this year.
>
> http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/3314121#184338592-L-LB
>
> This side of the bridge is Lake Michigan and the other side is Lake
> Huron.
>
> I'm REALLY pissed that I cut off the top of that tree.  I have another
> where I put the tree on the left but I don't like it as much...  
> Or I
> didn't until I saw that I'd topped the birch...
> Anyway, this was handheld with the K10 and the 18-55.


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Re: K10D AS system [OT] water restrictions

[Bob Blakely]

Let's see...

1.You can water all you want if you have a well.
2.You are not allowed to dig a well.

I guess this is the Aussie version of "Catch 22".

Don't you folks have rights to your own property? Do you actually elect the 
twits that give you these laws? Were they all sadistic comedians in a former 
life?

Regards,
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From: "jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 10:25:53 -0700, Bob Blakely wrote:
>
>>Gotta getta well!
>
>
> we are not allowed to dig one.


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Re: K10D AS system [OT] water restrictions

[jim]

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:28:36 +0200, syb vis wrote:

Ground is very dry. dam is at about 17% capacity. here are some at this site:

http://james.bsch.au.com/gallery/080407
 doesn't really show a great deal, just an idea.
James

>That sounds really bad. How dry is the ground? Agriculture must suffer badly.
>Any pics of that dam right now, and compared with some years ago?





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Re: Peso, my next truck, one for Steady

[Mark Roberts]

David J Brooks wrote:

>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6314756
>
>This was in the parade yesterday. I had heard of this International
>pick up truck.
>
>Think we ccould get all three of us to GFM in it next year, Mark and 
Frank.

Not sure it would hold all our gear, though...
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Re: K10D AS system

[jim]

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:58:22 +1000, Digital Image Studio wrote:


Very interesting.
As I don't have an F series lens, could you possiabily tell me what covering 
the "digital" contact
does for one of that type of lens.
Interested to know the affect for FAJ, DFA, DA and DA* lenses as well


>What I found when I did was that firstly the lens would not AF and the
>f number would not appear on the display of my *ist D in Av however
>the shutter speed varied with the changing of the on body aperture

Was the exposure correct when takeing a picture? I would suspect that it would 
be under or over.


>control. The interesting thing was that AF confirmation at each end of
>the aperture range was spot on. So my conclusion is that lens reports
>the need for an AF offset for aperture above f5.6, why I have no clue
>but I know it's a bad idea. Got to give it to Sigma.

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Re: subject for Sept PUG ?

[Brian Walters]

Hi Ann

Quoting ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> sending this both to Scott and the list  in case he his reading his
> 
> regular mail but not the list :) :)
> 
> also -
> The clickables on the page don't work -- You may shoot me for
> mentioning 
> this again  - but is
> there another link to get to the older stuff?  and the theme page?
>


Try this:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/themes.html


If you mean the clickables on this page:

http://pug.komkon.org/

They work for me - but the whole line isn't clickable.  You need to move the 
cursor to the end of each line to find the active link (usually the word 
"here").

Cheers

Brian

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Re: K10D AS system [OT] water restrictions

[jim]

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 10:25:53 -0700, Bob Blakely wrote:

>Gotta getta well!


we are not allowed to dig one. 

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Re: Dream Cruise Tonight

[David J Brooks]

Nothing better that that orange on the Chargers, or lime the green. Me
i like the Super Bee yellow and black.

Dave

On 8/16/07, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/16/07, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 8/16/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Bingo.
> >
> > Bingo indeed.
>
> I still say it's near-heresy to paint a Bugatti (even a fake one)
> anything but blue...
>
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Re: K10D AS system

[jim]

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:13:52 +0200, Thibouille wrote:

You are confusing the power contacts near the focus drive shaft with ones  I am 
talking about.
Please look at the picture of the MZ60 on Boz's site and count the contacts 
near the lens release button.
You will quickly see that 2 are missing as well as the 2 power contacts.

>James the two missing contactsare power for the old PowerZoom feature.
>They do not provide any formof comunication.

What should and will work are 2 different things.
I fell in to the trap expecting my missus MZ60 to work with my A series lenses.
Guess what. it don't.
Also, read Boz's site about the MZ60 and A series lenses and find out how 
crippled the MZ60 really is.


>any A lens with aperture set on A should work on an MZ30/50/60/ist etc.


James





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Re: Dark side macro question

[Mark Cassino]

Most of my snow crystals are at that magnification or greater. I just 
use a 50mm reverse mounted on a bellows and set of extension tubes. The 
reverse mounted 50mm plus 100-150mm of tubes results in some mighty 
magnification. The reverse mounting is the key - it seems to keep 
subject to lens working distance more consistent than if the lens was 
not reverse mounted (forward mounted?)

Flash is really useful, and the problem might be that the camera is not 
able to deal with TTL flash either without the lens to body contacts or 
with the extension factor.  If you don't use flash you will need to 
construct a very steady support system for the camera, and make sure 
that the subject is absolutely still (which might be a problem if they 
are in water.)

If TTL flash does not work, the classic approach is to figure out how 
far away to place the flash taking into account the aperture, flash 
guide number, and exposure factor introduced by the extension. But with 
a digital camera - trial and error would probably be a better approach.

Another idea is to reverse mount a lens in front of a telephoto. That 
should have no effect on metering or TTL flash - basically the reverse 
mounted lens is just acting as a close-up diopter. The basic equation is 
that magnification equals the main lens focal length divided by the 
focal length of the reverse mounted lens. So a 50mm lens reversed in 
front of a 200mm gets you to 4x lifesized. A fast 50mm reverse mounted 
on a 200mm with some extension tubes should get you to pretty high 
magnifications, not affect metering (assuming the tubes have the 
appropriate contacts for lens to body communication), and not result in 
severe vignetting. My experience has been that reverse mounting a 
shorter focal length lens in front of a 200mm results in vignetting, but 
I've only had f2.8 lenses to work work with.

- MCC


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> Hi all
> 
> I have a friend who has a Canon 300D and I would like to try to help him 
> improve his macro photos of really small objects - down to approximately 
> 3mm in length.
> 
> He currently has a Canon 100 mm f2.8 macro and a Canon ring flash.  The 
> problem is that the subject - generally live marine animals in about 1cm 
> of water - in the resulting images is not large enough to blow up to a 
> usable size.
> 
> I'm willing to take Canon specific suggestions as well as general macro 
> suggestions, but I don't know what is available for Canons in terms of 
> macro equipment, and it needs to work with his ring flash.  I'll even 
> accept the address of another forum dealing with Canon macro photography 
> (Is there one?) or suggestion from Cotty on how to graft good Pentax 
> optics on to the Canon body.
> 
> All help from those who tread the dark path (and I know you are out 
> there) will be greatfully accepted.
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Peso, my next truck, one for Steady

[David J Brooks]

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6314756

This was in the parade yesterday. I had heard of this International
pick up truck.

Think we ccould get all three of us to GFM in it next year, Mark and Frank.

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subject for Sept PUG ?

[ann sanfedele]

sending this both to Scott and the list  in case he his reading his 
regular mail but not the list :) :)

also -
The clickables on the page don't work -- You may shoot me for mentioning 
this again  - but is
there another link to get to the older stuff?  and the theme page?

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Re: Enabled

[frank theriault]

On 8/16/07, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> I disagree. I think Cotty could catch Dave's hair on fire.

Biting my tongue.  Biting my tongue...

;-)

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Re: Enabled

[Norm Baugher]

You can catch your hair on fire (unless of course you're Cotty).
Norm

Toine wrote:
> Congrats, Happy shooting, don't overheat the flash
>
>
> On 8/16/07, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> I'm now the proud owner of a AF-360-FGZ
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Re: Enabled

[Mark Roberts]

Norm Baugher wrote:

>You can catch your hair on fire (unless of course you're Cotty).

I disagree. I think Cotty could catch Dave's hair on fire.


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Re: Dream Cruise Tonight

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Ages ago, I briefly had the opportunity to buy a Bugatti Type 57SC  
"Atlantic" Coupe. It was finished in a gorgeous wine-burgundy red color.

(No, I didn't buy it. Although the asking price was within my means,  
the ability to maintain and own such a premium piece of automotive  
history was way out of my territory!!)

Godfrey

On Aug 16, 2007, at 12:30 PM, frank theriault wrote:

> On 8/16/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> I agree. But then I painted my Alfa Romeo FrankenSpider yellow rather
>> than IRR. ;-)
>
> Yellow's different.  It's not a national racing colour.  Personally,
> I'd prefer my Italian sports cars red, French blue, British Green,
> German silver, etc.  But if one's going to be an iconoclast, at least
> don't be heretical about it...
>
> ;-)
>
> Having mentioned what I did about Bugattis other than blue, I now
> recall seeing something on a TV show about a black Bugatti.   I guess
> that's okay...
>
> Not red, though!


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RE: K10D AS system

[Bob W]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of jim
> Sent: 16 August 2007 13:47
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: K10D AS system
> 
> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:11:17 +0100, John Whittingham wrote:
> 
> >work like an 'A' series lens. If it ever stops raining over 
> here in sunny 
> >England I'll go out and give it a try.
> 
> RAIN!!??? send some over here to sunny Queensland here in 
> Australia. We are about to go to level 7 water restrictions.
> 

tell you what, we'll build a tunnel from here to Aus and when London
looks like flooding we can use the tunnel to drain the water away. 

The tunnel should start some way east of my house. This is what's
going to happen to my house when London floods:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/uk/07/thames_barrier/stm/1.stm

My house is at the apex (?) of the large oxbow in the centre of the
picture.

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Re: Dream Cruise Tonight

[frank theriault]

On 8/16/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I agree. But then I painted my Alfa Romeo FrankenSpider yellow rather
> than IRR. ;-)

Yellow's different.  It's not a national racing colour.  Personally,
I'd prefer my Italian sports cars red, French blue, British Green,
German silver, etc.  But if one's going to be an iconoclast, at least
don't be heretical about it...

;-)

Having mentioned what I did about Bugattis other than blue, I now
recall seeing something on a TV show about a black Bugatti.   I guess
that's okay...

Not red, though!

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Re: Enabled

[Toine]

Congrats, Happy shooting, don't overheat the flash


On 8/16/07, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm now the proud owner of a AF-360-FGZ
>
> No stopping me now. Opps road blocked ahead.LOL
>
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Enabled

[David J Brooks]

I'm now the proud owner of a AF-360-FGZ

No stopping me now. Opps road blocked ahead.LOL

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Re: A tree and a bridge

[David J Brooks]

You've obviously have not seen me try and learn something.

Dave

On 8/16/07, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No, no.
>
> 5 minutes with me & you too can learn my tips and tricks.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave (I actually quite like how the "bird" turned out)
>
> On 8/16/07, syb vis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > To be tutored, I suppose?
> >
> > Syb
> >
> > 2007/8/16, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > How's this?
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > Sorry Cory. I couldn't help myself. :-)
> > >
> > > I'm available for personal Photoshop tutoring if anyone is interested.
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > On 8/16/07, syb vis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > It could use a bird or two, as well... and maybe some vessel in the 
> > > > lake?
> > > >
> > > > Seriously: What a wonderful shot. I can imagine you want the entire
> > > > tree, and a bit less of ground in the front. But the colours and the
> > > > light, they are great
> > > >
> > > > Syb
> > > >
> > > > 2007/8/16, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > > This image really needs some clouds.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll be going over this tomorrow as I head into the U.P. for a 
> > > > > weeklong
> > > > > photo workshop.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kenneth Waller
> > > > > http://tinyurl.com/272u2f
> > > > >
> > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > From: "cbwaters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >
> > > > > Subject: PESO: A tree and a bridge
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I've finally started working on a gallery of photos from my recent
> > > > > > pilgrimage to Northern Michigan.  This is the first of the public 
> > > > > > photos
> > > > > > (lots of family shots that you folks would be bored by).
> > > > > > The Mackinaw Bridge, the world's third longest suspension bridge, 
> > > > > > is fifty
> > > > > > years old this year.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/3314121#184338592-L-LB
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This side of the bridge is Lake Michigan and the other side is Lake 
> > > > > > Huron.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm REALLY pissed that I cut off the top of that tree.  I have 
> > > > > > another
> > > > > > where
> > > > > > I put the tree on the left but I don't like it as much... Or I 
> > > > > > didn't
> > > > > > until I saw that I'd topped the birch...
> > > > > > Anyway, this was handheld with the K10 and the 18-55.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cory
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Re: Joe O’Donnell dies at age 85

[frank theriault]

On 8/16/07, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Photographer famous for WW2 photos an iconic JFK shot
>
> http://www.nashvillescene.com/Stories/Arts/Art/2007/08/16/American_Witness/
>
> Not much on the web now but I expect there will probably be more to
> come...

And a few other iconic shots, too.

What a career.

What a life!

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Re: Dream Cruise Tonight

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Aug 16, 2007, at 9:38 AM, frank theriault wrote:

> I still say it's near-heresy to paint a Bugatti (even a fake one)
> anything but blue...

I agree. But then I painted my Alfa Romeo FrankenSpider yellow rather  
than IRR. ;-)

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Re: A tree and a bridge

[frank theriault]

On 8/16/07, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How's this?
>
> 
>
> Sorry Cory. I couldn't help myself. :-)
>
> I'm available for personal Photoshop tutoring if anyone is interested.
>
> 

That bird is so fake!

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Re: PESO -- West Wharf: Boat Basin, Fisheye View

[frank theriault]

On 8/16/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's Fun for Fisheye day. Well, not really, I took this a couple of
> years ago with my El Cheapo Re-branded Sigma 12mm Fisheye. It shows
> considerable CA and just bunches of corner and edge softness, (which
> since it was originally designed as a semi circular fisheye for 35mm
> really makes you wonder, especially as it wasn't really inexpensive,
> except when compared to other lenses of similar focal length, when it
> was new, but I've digressed quite enough).
>
> http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20westwharfboatbasinfisheyevi.html
>

Wonderful use of a fisheye!!

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Re: K10D AS system [OT] water restrictions

[Bob Blakely]

Gotta getta well!

Regards,
Bob...

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it's more like a jar of jalapenos.
What you do today, might burn your butt tomorrow."
 
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> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:56:55 +0200, syb vis wrote:
> 
>>What does level 7 mean?
> 
> no watering the garden at all. no topping up the pool.
> limated to x amount of liters a day. current level 6 is 140 a day.
> Level 7 will be much less.
> We haven't had good rain to fill our main dam for over 5 years..


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Re: PAW:

[frank theriault]

On 8/15/07, wendy beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/83930408
>
>
> (I couldn't title it PESO, could I)
>
>

Hilarious!!

Wonderful shot.

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PESO -- West Wharf: Boat Basin, Fisheye View

[P. J. Alling]

It's Fun for Fisheye day. Well, not really, I took this a couple of 
years ago with my El Cheapo Re-branded Sigma 12mm Fisheye. It shows 
considerable CA and just bunches of corner and edge softness, (which 
since it was originally designed as a semi circular fisheye for 35mm 
really makes you wonder, especially as it wasn't really inexpensive, 
except when compared to other lenses of similar focal length, when it 
was new, but I've digressed quite enough).

http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20westwharfboatbasinfisheyevi.html

Pentax *ist-D/Sigma/Asuma/Vermer/Spiritone 12mm f8 Fisheye

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Re: K10D AS system

[Thibouille]

James the two missing contactsare power for the old PowerZoom feature.
They do not provide any formof comunication.

any A lens with aperture set on A should work on an MZ30/50/60/ist etc.

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Re: K10D AS system

[P. J. Alling]

At least they're not demanding that you give it back...


Peter McIntosh wrote:
> syb vis wrote:
>   
>> What does level 7 mean?
>>
>> Syb
>>
>>   
>> 
> This link - http://www.ctw.nsw.gov.au/Water%20Restrictions%20Levels.pdf 
> - probably explains it well enough.
>
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>
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Re: Optio W10/20/30 users - opinions?

[Thibouille]

LOL xD

2007/8/16, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 10
>
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> > -Original Message-
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> >
> > Jaume and Henk (and others)... What's the difference between
> > the W20 and
> > W30?
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Re: Dream Cruise Tonight

[frank theriault]

On 8/16/07, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/16/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Bingo.
>
> Bingo indeed.

I still say it's near-heresy to paint a Bugatti (even a fake one)
anything but blue...

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Re: Dream Cruise Tonight

[frank theriault]

On 8/16/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bingo.

Bingo indeed.

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Re: K10D AS system

[John Whittingham]

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:46:34 +1000, jim wrote
> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:11:17 +0100, John Whittingham wrote:
> 
> >work like an 'A' series lens. If it ever stops raining over here in sunny 
> >England I'll go out and give it a try.
> 
> RAIN!!??? send some over here to sunny Queensland here in Australia. 
> We are about to go to level 7 water restrictions.

You're welcome to it, as much as you can shake a very big stick at!

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Re: K10D AS system

[P. J. Alling]

Why not use the same thin tape strips that are set up to use as markers, 
(either for signatures or bookmarks). These strips are designed to 
remove easily and leave no residue.. They're very thin and the glue 
cleans up easily if any is left behind.

John Whittingham wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:02:31 +1000, jim wrote
>   
>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 10:05:54 +0100, John Whittingham wrote:
>>
>> I beleave it should act as an A series lens depending on how the 
>> electronics are set up in the lens. ie the electronics with out 
>> power short or leave open the contacts for min and max apature. only 
>> way to find out is to try it out. One would think that pentax would  
>> make F+ series lenses work properly on A series cameras. Then 
>> 
> again..
>   
>> James
>> 
>
> I've just been looking at Boz's site and think you're probably right, should 
> work like an 'A' series lens. If it ever stops raining over here in sunny 
> England I'll go out and give it a try.
>
> Anyone got any suggestions on what to cover the digital pin with? I'm 
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Re: Dream Cruise Tonight

[John Sessoms]

Probably a Type 35 replica ...

http://www.scottysclassiccars.com/cars/description/bugattireplica.html

You can see what appears to be a VW style exhaust system under the tail 
end in Paul's photo.

Also - http://www.kitcar.com/articles-kitcar/nckcc98/home.html

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> By the looks of the radiator, I would say it is a Bugatti.
> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> I think it's a 1930s race car. Probably an Indy car. The maker is  
>> unknown to me. It could also be an early grand prix car, possibly an  
>> Alpha. If I can hunt it down in the next few days, I'll find out. 
>> I'm  curious as well. I was thinking I might be able to match the 
>> tail and  the cowling shape to a picture on the web. Lots of hunting 
>> required.
>> Paul
>> On Aug 15, 2007, at 5:44 PM, frank theriault wrote:
>>> On 8/13/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 Two pics from tonight, one from last night. All with the K10D and the
 FA 50/1.4:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6305607&size=lg
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6305604&size=lg
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6305602&size=lg
 Paul
>>> What's that red Italian (I'm assuming from the colour it's Italian)
>>> thing?  An old Alfa?






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Re: Dream Cruise Tonight

[pnstenquist]

Bingo.

 -- Original message --
From: John Sessoms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Probably a Type 35 replica ...
> 
> http://www.scottysclassiccars.com/cars/description/bugattireplica.html
> 
> You can see what appears to be a VW style exhaust system under the tail 
> end in Paul's photo.
> 
> Also - http://www.kitcar.com/articles-kitcar/nckcc98/home.html
> 
> ... about halfway down the page.
> 
> 
> From:
> graywolf
> > By the looks of the radiator, I would say it is a Bugatti.
> > Paul Stenquist wrote:
> >> I think it's a 1930s race car. Probably an Indy car. The maker is  
> >> unknown to me. It could also be an early grand prix car, possibly an  
> >> Alpha. If I can hunt it down in the next few days, I'll find out. 
> >> I'm  curious as well. I was thinking I might be able to match the 
> >> tail and  the cowling shape to a picture on the web. Lots of hunting 
> >> required.
> >> Paul
> >> On Aug 15, 2007, at 5:44 PM, frank theriault wrote:
> >>> On 8/13/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Two pics from tonight, one from last night. All with the K10D and the
>  FA 50/1.4:
>  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6305607&size=lg
>  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6305604&size=lg
>  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6305602&size=lg
>  Paul
> >>> What's that red Italian (I'm assuming from the colour it's Italian)
> >>> thing?  An old Alfa?
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Re: Dream Cruise Tonight

[John Sessoms]

From:
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> I agree that it's probably a replica. Blowing up the hi-res version, I 
> can see that the radiator cowling appears to be a curved piece of thin 
> steel that is bolted to the framework. Could be a garage-engineered 
> replica. Although it might also be an early, independent Indy 
> roadster. Many of those were home-built one offs. Obviously, the 
> wheels and headlights were a recent addition.
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Re: PESO: A tree and a bridge

[David J Brooks]

Very nice shot, Cory.

I like the composition and the sky/water colours.
The missing tree tip does not take away from the shot, AFAIC.

Dave

On 8/15/07, cbwaters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> pilgrimage to Northern Michigan.  This is the first of the public photos
> (lots of family shots that you folks would be bored by).
> The Mackinaw Bridge, the world's third longest suspension bridge, is fifty
> years old this year.
>
> http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/3314121#184338592-L-LB
>
> This side of the bridge is Lake Michigan and the other side is Lake Huron.
>
> I'm REALLY pissed that I cut off the top of that tree.  I have another where
> I put the tree on the left but I don't like it as much... Or I didn't
> until I saw that I'd topped the birch...
> Anyway, this was handheld with the K10 and the 18-55.
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Re: PESO: A tree and a bridge

[frank theriault]

On 8/16/07, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Very nice shot, Cory.
>
> I like the composition and the sky/water colours.
> The missing tree tip does not take away from the shot, AFAIC.

I agree with everyone else.

Lovely shot, Cory!

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Re: any PDMLers in Madrid or Seville?

[Amita Guha]

Thank you for the offer, Jaume! I'll let you know. I do hope to make
it to Barcelona someday,   too. :)

Amita

On 8/13/07, Jaume Lahuerta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Opps...I live in Barcelona, although I go to Madrid from time to time 
> (normally for a one day trip). I still don't know about these dates though.
> Anyway, let me know if you need first hand information about any of these 
> cities. Apart from what I may know for myself, I also know people living 
> there.
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> Regards,
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>
> - Mensaje original 
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Re: PAW:

[David J Brooks]

I keep mine at 4Fps:-)

Dave

On 8/16/07, wendy beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/15/07, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > >It's almost up to 1600 now thanks to a dog
> > >show two weekends ago.
> > >(the 1dmk3 is at around 5100.. and the mk2 is on 2200 and its second 
> > >shutter)
> >
> > Wendy, you simply rock :-)
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> > Cheers,
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Re: PESO - Camping

[David J Brooks]

Nice.

I like the way the sheet hides part of the chair.

Dave

On 8/16/07, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I dont' think I posted this one before - apologies if I did.
>
> I spent about 10 minutes looking for my cat a few weeks ago, and
> finally found her "playing tent" under a sheet drying on a couple of
> chairs (reminded me of what we used to do when we were kids).
>
> She didn't seem to appreciate being discovered!  ;-)
>
> http://tinyurl.com/39tj2o
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> http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RsRAJl2id8I/Ak4/6QYtUVVGxdo/s1600-h/aug_13.jpg
>
> Not the sharpest - shooting available light @ISO 3200, handheld - but
> Patche's attitude came through loud clear!
>
> ;-)
>
> Comments always welcome.
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Re: A tree and a bridge

[David Savage]

No, no.

5 minutes with me & you too can learn my tips and tricks.

Cheers,

Dave (I actually quite like how the "bird" turned out)

On 8/16/07, syb vis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> To be tutored, I suppose?
>
> Syb
>
> 2007/8/16, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > How's this?
> >
> > 
> >
> > Sorry Cory. I couldn't help myself. :-)
> >
> > I'm available for personal Photoshop tutoring if anyone is interested.
> >
> > 
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On 8/16/07, syb vis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > It could use a bird or two, as well... and maybe some vessel in the lake?
> > >
> > > Seriously: What a wonderful shot. I can imagine you want the entire
> > > tree, and a bit less of ground in the front. But the colours and the
> > > light, they are great
> > >
> > > Syb
> > >
> > > 2007/8/16, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > This image really needs some clouds.
> > > >
> > > > I'll be going over this tomorrow as I head into the U.P. for a weeklong
> > > > photo workshop.
> > > >
> > > > Kenneth Waller
> > > > http://tinyurl.com/272u2f
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "cbwaters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >
> > > > Subject: PESO: A tree and a bridge
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I've finally started working on a gallery of photos from my recent
> > > > > pilgrimage to Northern Michigan.  This is the first of the public 
> > > > > photos
> > > > > (lots of family shots that you folks would be bored by).
> > > > > The Mackinaw Bridge, the world's third longest suspension bridge, is 
> > > > > fifty
> > > > > years old this year.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/3314121#184338592-L-LB
> > > > >
> > > > > This side of the bridge is Lake Michigan and the other side is Lake 
> > > > > Huron.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm REALLY pissed that I cut off the top of that tree.  I have another
> > > > > where
> > > > > I put the tree on the left but I don't like it as much... Or I 
> > > > > didn't
> > > > > until I saw that I'd topped the birch...
> > > > > Anyway, this was handheld with the K10 and the 18-55.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cory

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Re: PESO - Street Warrior

[Fernando]

Great portrait Frank. I like it.

On 8/15/07, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Still working on these b&w conversions.
>
> This is Aidus, a young Toronto bike messenger.  I kind of like his intense 
> eyes:
>
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Re: PESO - Camping

[Brian Walters]

purrr.

Seriously, there's an awful lot of white but somehow it works.



Cheers

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Quoting frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I dont' think I posted this one before - apologies if I did.
> 
> I spent about 10 minutes looking for my cat a few weeks ago, and
> finally found her "playing tent" under a sheet drying on a couple
> of
> chairs (reminded me of what we used to do when we were kids).
> 
> She didn't seem to appreciate being discovered!  ;-)
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/39tj2o
> 
> http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RsRAJl2id8I/Ak4/6QYtUVVGxdo/s1600-h/aug_13.jpg
> 
> Not the sharpest - shooting available light @ISO 3200, handheld -
> but
> Patche's attitude came through loud clear!
> 
> ;-)
> 
> Comments always welcome.
> 
> cheers,
> frank

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Re: K10D AS system [OT] water restrictions

[syb vis]

That sounds really bad. How dry is the ground? Agriculture must suffer badly.
Any pics of that dam right now, and compared with some years ago?


Syb


2007/8/16, jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:56:55 +0200, syb vis wrote:
>
> >What does level 7 mean?
>
> no watering the garden at all. no topping up the pool.
> limated to x amount of liters a day. current level 6 is 140 a day.
> Level 7 will be much less.
> We haven't had good rain to fill our main dam for over 5 years..
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Re: K10D AS system [OT] water restrictions

[jim]

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:56:55 +0200, syb vis wrote:

>What does level 7 mean?

no watering the garden at all. no topping up the pool.
limated to x amount of liters a day. current level 6 is 140 a day.
Level 7 will be much less.
We haven't had good rain to fill our main dam for over 5 years..
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Re: K10D AS system

[jim]

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 08:48:16 -0400, Adam Maas wrote:

Adam

Your MZ60 is different to the 2 I have here. Both the ones I have Won't work 
with A series lenses at all.
The instruction manual doesn't even list   A series lenses as being compatiable 
with this camera

Also. have a close look at the picture of the MZ60 on Boz's site and count the 
number of lens information contacts.
you will see that 2 are missing. How can the MZ60 get the smallest apature of 
an A series lens with those 2 contacts missing?

James


>The MZ-60 (and all the 'crippled' KAF2 mount bodies are fully functional 
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Re: PAW:

[wendy beard]

On 8/15/07, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 15/08/07, wendy beard, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >It's almost up to 1600 now thanks to a dog
> >show two weekends ago.
> >(the 1dmk3 is at around 5100.. and the mk2 is on 2200 and its second shutter)
>
> Wendy, you simply rock :-)
>
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> Cheers,
>   Cotty

Yeah, and at 10fps too ;-)

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Re: PESO - Street Warrior

[frank theriault]

On 8/16/07, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Me too.

Thanks, David.  And a blanket thanks to everyone else who's commented
(so far and in the future).

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Re: K10D AS system

[Digital Image Studio]

On 16/08/07, John Whittingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Anyone got any suggestions on what to cover the digital pin with? I'm
> thinking insulating tape, but worried about it stressing the lens mount!
> Don't want to bin the K10D.

Funny, I tried this earlier today, before reading this part of the
thread. I have a Sigma lens (yes I know, I swore I wouldn't but it was
too hard to resist) which exhibits a strange AF problem so I wanted to
see if I could effect a work-around.

The lens manages to AF from wide open (f2.8) to f5 quite accurately
however at any aperture smaller than f5 it mis-focuses (MF with
confirmation is also out of focus) so I decided to cover the data pin
with some tape.

What I found when I did was that firstly the lens would not AF and the
f number would not appear on the display of my *ist D in Av however
the shutter speed varied with the changing of the on body aperture
control. The interesting thing was that AF confirmation at each end of
the aperture range was spot on. So my conclusion is that lens reports
the need for an AF offset for aperture above f5.6, why I have no clue
but I know it's a bad idea. Got to give it to Sigma.

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Re: K10D AS system

[Peter McIntosh]

syb vis wrote:
> What does level 7 mean?
>
> Syb
>
>   
This link - http://www.ctw.nsw.gov.au/Water%20Restrictions%20Levels.pdf 
- probably explains it well enough.

Ciao,

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Re: PAW:

[David J Brooks]

I can relate.

Our cats always try and get under doors.

Nice shot.

Dave

On 8/15/07, wendy beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/83930408
>
>
> (I couldn't title it PESO, could I)
>
> Wendy
> K10D 50-200mm @f5.6 1/180s ISO 400
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Re: PESO - Camping

[syb vis]

The sheets make wonderful light! Simple, clear. It's as if she's in
the clouds... I would not like to be discovered there either. OTOH:
when it results in such a wonderful image... maybe I would.

Syb

2007/8/16, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I dont' think I posted this one before - apologies if I did.
>
> I spent about 10 minutes looking for my cat a few weeks ago, and
> finally found her "playing tent" under a sheet drying on a couple of
> chairs (reminded me of what we used to do when we were kids).
>
> She didn't seem to appreciate being discovered!  ;-)
>
> http://tinyurl.com/39tj2o
>
> http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RsRAJl2id8I/Ak4/6QYtUVVGxdo/s1600-h/aug_13.jpg
>
> Not the sharpest - shooting available light @ISO 3200, handheld - but
> Patche's attitude came through loud clear!
>
> ;-)
>
> Comments always welcome.
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: PESO - Street Warrior

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On 8/15/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Aug 15, 2007, at 2:23 PM, frank theriault wrote:
>
> > Still working on these b&w conversions.
> > This is Aidus, a young Toronto bike messenger.  I kind of like his
> > intense eyes:
> > http://tinyurl.com/33ycdm
>
> Handsome lad, and a fine portrait. I see what you mean about his
> eyes... :-)
>

Thanks Godfrey.  You seem to like eyes...

;-)

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Re: PESO - Street Warrior

[David J Brooks]

Good pose and background.

Conversion looks good, and love the eyes.

Nope it ain't dodo.

Dave

On 8/15/07, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Still working on these b&w conversions.
>
> This is Aidus, a young Toronto bike messenger.  I kind of like his intense 
> eyes:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/33ycdm
>
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RsBUcrMIuOI/AkA/hdaCA12lmQA/s1600-h/aug_13+001.jpg
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> Comments always welcome.
>
> thanks,
> frank
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Re: Dream Cruise Tonight

[frank theriault]

On 8/15/07, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> By the looks of the radiator, I would say it is a Bugatti.

That's exactly what I thought, and then I realized that I'd never seen
a Bugatti in anything other that French Blue.  It ~does~ look like the
"inverted horseshoe" grill-frame, doesn't it?

It would be heresy to paint a Bugatti IRR, IMHO.  OTOH, it could be
that the history of this particular car had it raced at some point by
an Italian...

Anyhoo, I also don't see the Alfa Shamrock anywhere on that red body -
wouldn't it normally be right behind the cockpit?

Now I'm getting curious.  I'll check about on the web, too...

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Re: K10D AS system

[syb vis]

What does level 7 mean?

Syb

2007/8/16, jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:11:17 +0100, John Whittingham wrote:
>
> >work like an 'A' series lens. If it ever stops raining over here in sunny
> >England I'll go out and give it a try.
>
> RAIN!!??? send some over here to sunny Queensland here in Australia. We are 
> about to go to level 7 water restrictions.
>
>
>
> >Anyone got any suggestions on what to cover the digital pin with? I'm
> >thinking insulating tape, but worried about it stressing the lens mount!
>
> I find the clear sticky tape does a good job. only hard part is to keep it in 
> the one place while spinning on the lens.
>
> James
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Re: A tree and a bridge

[syb vis]

To be tutored, I suppose?

Syb

2007/8/16, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> How's this?
>
> 
>
> Sorry Cory. I couldn't help myself. :-)
>
> I'm available for personal Photoshop tutoring if anyone is interested.
>
> 
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
>
> On 8/16/07, syb vis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It could use a bird or two, as well... and maybe some vessel in the lake?
> >
> > Seriously: What a wonderful shot. I can imagine you want the entire
> > tree, and a bit less of ground in the front. But the colours and the
> > light, they are great
> >
> > Syb
> >
> > 2007/8/16, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > This image really needs some clouds.
> > >
> > > I'll be going over this tomorrow as I head into the U.P. for a weeklong
> > > photo workshop.
> > >
> > > Kenneth Waller
> > > http://tinyurl.com/272u2f
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "cbwaters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > > Subject: PESO: A tree and a bridge
> > >
> > >
> > > > I've finally started working on a gallery of photos from my recent
> > > > pilgrimage to Northern Michigan.  This is the first of the public photos
> > > > (lots of family shots that you folks would be bored by).
> > > > The Mackinaw Bridge, the world's third longest suspension bridge, is 
> > > > fifty
> > > > years old this year.
> > > >
> > > > http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/3314121#184338592-L-LB
> > > >
> > > > This side of the bridge is Lake Michigan and the other side is Lake 
> > > > Huron.
> > > >
> > > > I'm REALLY pissed that I cut off the top of that tree.  I have another
> > > > where
> > > > I put the tree on the left but I don't like it as much... Or I 
> > > > didn't
> > > > until I saw that I'd topped the birch...
> > > > Anyway, this was handheld with the K10 and the 18-55.
> > > >
> > > > Cory
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Re: PESO - Street Warrior

[frank theriault]

On 8/15/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nice conversion, though you need to get the whites brighter, with a
> little more detail in the blacks, unless you're aiming for high
> contrast. The picture itself is good, looks like he's leaning in...

Thanks, Peter.

I was aiming at high-contrast, but still, I'd have liked a bit more
detail in the blacks.

Something to work on, I guess...

Thanks for your comment!

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Re: PESO - Street Warrior

[frank theriault]

On 8/15/07, Mat Maessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


>
> Your digital B&W shots are looking more and more Theriaultian. Very nice.

I dont' know if that's a compliment or not.

;-)

But I'll take it as such...

Thanks, Mat!

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Re: K10D AS system

[Adam Maas]

Jim,

The MZ-60 (and all the 'crippled' KAF2 mount bodies are fully functional 
with A series lenses. It's K/M series lenses they are not functional with.

-Adam


jim wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 07:21:02 -0400, Adam Maas wrote:
> 
> Adam/ David
> 
> I am very well aware of the info contained on those pages on Boz's site.
> However. have either of you looked at an MZ60? It cannot be used with A 
> series lenses at all.
> So it stands to reason that pentax would remove anything that is used for A 
> series Lenses.
> Indeed they have, the  apature feed back leaver but only contacts A1 and A2.
> R1, R2 and R3 are still present along with the * contact.
> So it stands to reason that the R contacts are used for lens serial 
> comnunication of some form.
> As i said earlier, A broken sigma lens and a logic probe says that there is 
> some form of comnunication
> happening. I have told Boz but without some facts/ logic traces to back it 
> up, I cannot prove it.
> Also the lens info contacts can be made to do both input and ourput. 
> 
> James
> 
> 
>> Jim, look at Boz's site. The Pentax contact layout uses 6 pins as a 
>> coded max/min aperture info(6 bit digital code, 3 bits for max aperture, 
>> 3 bits for minumum), one to indicate whether or not the lens set to A 
>> and one as a signal line. The latter only exists on F or later mount 
>> lenses and KAF and later mount bodies and is the only contact involved 
>> in any communication between the lens chip and the body (the mount 
>> itself is ground). The two pins inside the mount on KAF2 bodies are 
>> power for Power Zoom and SDM lenses.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: K10D AS system

[jim]

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:11:17 +0100, John Whittingham wrote:

>work like an 'A' series lens. If it ever stops raining over here in sunny 
>England I'll go out and give it a try.

RAIN!!??? send some over here to sunny Queensland here in Australia. We are 
about to go to level 7 water restrictions.



>Anyone got any suggestions on what to cover the digital pin with? I'm 
>thinking insulating tape, but worried about it stressing the lens mount! 

I find the clear sticky tape does a good job. only hard part is to keep it in 
the one place while spinning on the lens.

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PESO - Camping

[frank theriault]

I dont' think I posted this one before - apologies if I did.

I spent about 10 minutes looking for my cat a few weeks ago, and
finally found her "playing tent" under a sheet drying on a couple of
chairs (reminded me of what we used to do when we were kids).

She didn't seem to appreciate being discovered!  ;-)

http://tinyurl.com/39tj2o

http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RsRAJl2id8I/Ak4/6QYtUVVGxdo/s1600-h/aug_13.jpg

Not the sharpest - shooting available light @ISO 3200, handheld - but
Patche's attitude came through loud clear!

;-)

Comments always welcome.

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Joe O’Donnell dies at age 85

[Mark Roberts]

Photographer famous for WW2 photos an iconic JFK shot

http://www.nashvillescene.com/Stories/Arts/Art/2007/08/16/American_Witness/

Not much on the web now but I expect there will probably be more to 
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Re: K10D AS system

[John Whittingham]

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:02:31 +1000, jim wrote
> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 10:05:54 +0100, John Whittingham wrote:
> 
> I beleave it should act as an A series lens depending on how the 
> electronics are set up in the lens. ie the electronics with out 
> power short or leave open the contacts for min and max apature. only 
> way to find out is to try it out. One would think that pentax would  
> make F+ series lenses work properly on A series cameras. Then 
again..
> James

I've just been looking at Boz's site and think you're probably right, should 
work like an 'A' series lens. If it ever stops raining over here in sunny 
England I'll go out and give it a try.

Anyone got any suggestions on what to cover the digital pin with? I'm 
thinking insulating tape, but worried about it stressing the lens mount! 
Don't want to bin the K10D.

Regards,

John



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Re: K10D AS system

[jim]

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 07:21:02 -0400, Adam Maas wrote:

Adam/ David

I am very well aware of the info contained on those pages on Boz's site.
However. have either of you looked at an MZ60? It cannot be used with A series 
lenses at all.
So it stands to reason that pentax would remove anything that is used for A 
series Lenses.
Indeed they have, the  apature feed back leaver but only contacts A1 and A2.
R1, R2 and R3 are still present along with the * contact.
So it stands to reason that the R contacts are used for lens serial 
comnunication of some form.
As i said earlier, A broken sigma lens and a logic probe says that there is 
some form of comnunication
happening. I have told Boz but without some facts/ logic traces to back it up, 
I cannot prove it.
Also the lens info contacts can be made to do both input and ourput. 

James


>Jim, look at Boz's site. The Pentax contact layout uses 6 pins as a 
>coded max/min aperture info(6 bit digital code, 3 bits for max aperture, 
>3 bits for minumum), one to indicate whether or not the lens set to A 
>and one as a signal line. The latter only exists on F or later mount 
>lenses and KAF and later mount bodies and is the only contact involved 
>in any communication between the lens chip and the body (the mount 
>itself is ground). The two pins inside the mount on KAF2 bodies are 
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Re: K10D AS system

[jim]

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 10:05:54 +0100, John Whittingham wrote:

I beleave it should act as an A series lens depending on how the electronics 
are set up in the lens.
ie the electronics with out power short or leave open the contacts for min and 
max apature.
only way to find out is to try it out. One would think that pentax would  make 
F+ series lenses work properly on A series cameras. Then again..
James


>> add. Covering one digital pin will kill all the above info transfer 
>> so chances are lens won't auto focus either.
>> 


>Hi James, very interesting. I can handle the lack of AF, I'm generally using 
>the combo for wildlife and speed is not that critcal at the distances it will 
>be used. Do you know if the lens will still transmit aperture value or would 
>I be left with AV and DoF preview as with a K mount lens?




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Re: K10D AS system

[David Savage]

These are the pages Adam is refering to:

KAF mount


KAF2 mount


Cheers,

Dave

On 8/16/07, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jim, look at Boz's site. The Pentax contact layout uses 6 pins as a
> coded max/min aperture info(6 bit digital code, 3 bits for max aperture,
> 3 bits for minumum), one to indicate whether or not the lens set to A
> and one as a signal line. The latter only exists on F or later mount
> lenses and KAF and later mount bodies and is the only contact involved
> in any communication between the lens chip and the body (the mount
> itself is ground). The two pins inside the mount on KAF2 bodies are
> power for Power Zoom and SDM lenses.
>
> -Adam
>
>
> jim wrote:
> > On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 09:36:01 -0500, Charles Robinson wrote:
> >
> > Not a pin as such no. Camera comnunication with lens is some form of serial 
> > protocol.
> > The DIGITAL pin I believe is power for the lens chip. The r3, r2 and r1 
> > contacts are for the serial bus of some form.
> > A1 and A2 aren't used tho these new SDM lenses may use these pins as well 
> > (focus?)
> > Info passed would be lens type number, focal length, zoom position , MTF 
> > and what ever else pentax has decided to add.
> > Covering one digital pin will kill all the above info transfer so chances 
> > are lens won't auto focus either.
> >
> > I cannot prove any of the above unless some one has a multi input logic 
> > analyser and data logger.
> > Got all of this from pulling apart a sigma lens, using a logic probe and 
> > some guess work.
> >
> > james
> >
> >
> >> Isn't there a pin/contact/whatever somewhere on the teleconverter
> >> that you could cover with tape so that it did NOT pass focal-length
> >> information?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: K10D AS system

[Adam Maas]

Jim, look at Boz's site. The Pentax contact layout uses 6 pins as a 
coded max/min aperture info(6 bit digital code, 3 bits for max aperture, 
3 bits for minumum), one to indicate whether or not the lens set to A 
and one as a signal line. The latter only exists on F or later mount 
lenses and KAF and later mount bodies and is the only contact involved 
in any communication between the lens chip and the body (the mount 
itself is ground). The two pins inside the mount on KAF2 bodies are 
power for Power Zoom and SDM lenses.

-Adam


jim wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 09:36:01 -0500, Charles Robinson wrote:
> 
> Not a pin as such no. Camera comnunication with lens is some form of serial 
> protocol.
> The DIGITAL pin I believe is power for the lens chip. The r3, r2 and r1 
> contacts are for the serial bus of some form.
> A1 and A2 aren't used tho these new SDM lenses may use these pins as well 
> (focus?)
> Info passed would be lens type number, focal length, zoom position , MTF and 
> what ever else pentax has decided to add.
> Covering one digital pin will kill all the above info transfer so chances are 
> lens won't auto focus either. 
> 
> I cannot prove any of the above unless some one has a multi input logic 
> analyser and data logger.
> Got all of this from pulling apart a sigma lens, using a logic probe and some 
> guess work.
> 
> james
> 
> 
>> Isn't there a pin/contact/whatever somewhere on the teleconverter  
>> that you could cover with tape so that it did NOT pass focal-length  
>> information?
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: PESO -- Boathouse III

[David Savage]

I really quite like this.

Although if it were mine I'd consider cropping out the foreground just
below the right most post in the water.

Cheers,

Dave

On 8/14/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I shot this a couple of years ago and posted a few images as PESOs back
> then.  I thought this might make a good B&W conversion at the time but
> couldn't get the subtle tones I was looking for.  After downloading B&W
> Plus my conversions have become much better, (and easier).  So let me
> present:
>
> http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20boathouse3.html

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Re: A tree and a bridge

[David Savage]

How's this?



Sorry Cory. I couldn't help myself. :-)

I'm available for personal Photoshop tutoring if anyone is interested.



Cheers,

Dave

On 8/16/07, syb vis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It could use a bird or two, as well... and maybe some vessel in the lake?
>
> Seriously: What a wonderful shot. I can imagine you want the entire
> tree, and a bit less of ground in the front. But the colours and the
> light, they are great
>
> Syb
>
> 2007/8/16, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > This image really needs some clouds.
> >
> > I'll be going over this tomorrow as I head into the U.P. for a weeklong
> > photo workshop.
> >
> > Kenneth Waller
> > http://tinyurl.com/272u2f
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "cbwaters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > Subject: PESO: A tree and a bridge
> >
> >
> > > I've finally started working on a gallery of photos from my recent
> > > pilgrimage to Northern Michigan.  This is the first of the public photos
> > > (lots of family shots that you folks would be bored by).
> > > The Mackinaw Bridge, the world's third longest suspension bridge, is fifty
> > > years old this year.
> > >
> > > http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/3314121#184338592-L-LB
> > >
> > > This side of the bridge is Lake Michigan and the other side is Lake Huron.
> > >
> > > I'm REALLY pissed that I cut off the top of that tree.  I have another
> > > where
> > > I put the tree on the left but I don't like it as much... Or I didn't
> > > until I saw that I'd topped the birch...
> > > Anyway, this was handheld with the K10 and the 18-55.
> > >
> > > Cory

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Re: PESO - Street Warrior

[David Savage]

Me too.

Cheers,

Dave

On 8/16/07, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Looks pretty good to me Knarf.
>
> Kenneth Waller
> http://tinyurl.com/272u2f
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: PESO - Street Warrior
>
>
> > Still working on these b&w conversions.
> >
> > This is Aidus, a young Toronto bike messenger.  I kind of like his intense
> > eyes:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/33ycdm
> >
> > http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RsBUcrMIuOI/AkA/hdaCA12lmQA/s1600-h/aug_13+001.jpg
> >

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