Re: Camera Bag for Travel Kit

2008-04-19 Thread David Savage
Crumpler 5 or 6 Million Dollar Home.

They're products don't look so obviously like a camera bag.

Cheers,

Dave

On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Charles Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear All,
>
>  I'm deciding to use the following as a travel kit
>  DA 14, DA 21, FA 43 and FA77  plus ist D
>
>  I now need a travel bag to carry it, preferably one over the shoulder any
>  suggestions.

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Camera Bag for Travel Kit

2008-04-19 Thread Charles Wilson
Dear All,

I'm deciding to use the following as a travel kit
DA 14, DA 21, FA 43 and FA77  plus ist D

I now need a travel bag to carry it, preferably one over the shoulder any 
suggestions.

Regards

Charles Wilson
Sydney Australia 


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Re: PESO (OT): ANZAC Bridge

2008-04-19 Thread John Celio
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_04/08_04_anzacbridge/01.htm

Spectacular!

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Re: PESO 2008 - 69 - GDG

2008-04-19 Thread John Celio
> From an evening/night shoot down the street in Mountain View ...
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/69-kitchen.jpg

I really like this one.  It's just so... *metal*.  Great range of tones.  It 
feels like I could reach in there and grab one of those pans.  I imagine it 
would be awesome in a steel frame on the wall of a non-commercial kitchen.

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Re: Make mine a Bud

2008-04-19 Thread David Savage
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 4:30 AM, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>  >
>  > From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  > Date: 2008/04/19 Sat PM 03:19:25 GMT
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> > Subject: RE: Make mine a Bud
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> > > Lazy bugger.
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>  > Steady on, Ann.
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>  > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjxY9rZwNGU&feature=related
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>  > Bob
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>  Careful.  I suspect there is no shortage of Argument Juice there.
>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKEuzxC4eGc

ROTFL

Cheers,

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Re: The Game

2008-04-19 Thread Bob Sullivan
Paul,
It's an interesting slice of life.
Looks like the white guy has a lost endgame and isn't too happy.
Looks like the black guy is bored, he's seen this before...
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Christine  Aguila
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> Paul:  I like this very much.  Great contrasting expressions on the 2
> players.  And the lady to the left is great.  A wife, perhaps, waiting for
> her husband to finish?  Nice touch.  Cheers, Christine
>
>
> - Original Message -
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Re: Peso Our first Daffy

2008-04-19 Thread Bob Sullivan
Nicely done Dave.  Another one for the calendar!
I like the detail in the white pedals.
The yellow cup is unusually dark, but I can't figure how it's not in the sun.
Regards,  Bob S.

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> Good day to shoot today, so i killed two birds with one stone.
> Testing DA 50 and K10D and recording our flowers.
>
> K10D Da 50, LR adjust and export as email.
>
> Back lite the white pedals.
>
> BTW its the only 1 woth white pedals, all the others are solid yellow.
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Re: Artistic portrait

2008-04-19 Thread David Savage
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 5:26 AM, Ken Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Too much coffee?

Don't drink coffee.

>  Any particular reason you posted this @ 451473 bytes?

So you could enjoy it in all it's awesome glory.

Cheers,

Dave :-)

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>
> Subject: PESO: Artistic portrait
>
>
>  > G'day All,
>  >
>  > 
>  >
>  > Enjoy the awesomeness.
>  >
>  > Cheers,
>  >
>  > Dave

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Re: First of the Season

2008-04-19 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks much, Paul. A film capture of some years ago.
It's a short sweet season.

Jack


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> Date: Saturday, April 19, 2008, 5:18 PM
> Missed this earlier. Very nice. We bought some California
> strawberries today, but we've been buying Mexican
> berries for quire a few weeks.
> Paul
>  -- Original message --
> From: "Christine  Aguila"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Very nice Jack.  Hope they tasted good.  Cheers,
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RE: troubleshooting a damaged memory card

2008-04-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
This has been a funny week at ebay.

check this one, A 35mm F2.8 "Wild" angle lens!

#330229614310

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Re: troubleshooting a damaged memory card

2008-04-19 Thread Christine Aguila
Thanks everyone for the confirmation.  And if the light spirit doesn't work, 
I'll hit the cabinet for a darker spirit to see if Cotty is right.  Cheers, 
Christine


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Subject: Re: troubleshooting a damaged memory card


>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Christine Aguila"
> Subject: troubleshooting a damaged memory card
>
>
>> Hi Everyone:
>>
>> I had to take 3 quick shots of something to send to someone in an email. 
>> I
>> shot the photos, put the memory card in the card reader in my PC tower, &
>> couldn't get the PC to read the card.
>>
>> I then took a quick shot on a different card, and the PC read that card 
>> just
>> fine.
>>
>> I looked up Help & it was recommended to wipe the metal contacts with
>> alcohol.
>>
>> Has anyone used this remedy?  Do you suggest a different remedy?  I'm 
>> pretty
>> sure the card in question is the one I bought with the K10D last June of
>> 2007.  It's a Lexar Professional SD 2gig 133x speed.  (As is the 2nd card 
>> I
>> used.)
>>
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Alcohol works. Use it sparingly on a cotton swab though.
> In the old days, we used a pencil eraser for this, I don't know if it is 
> still acceptable or
> not. Also, I sometimes have to take a card out and reinsert it to get it 
> to read.
>
> William Robb
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Re: PESO: My First Photo

2008-04-19 Thread ann sanfedele
John Celio wrote:

>>John - it 's a nice photo - but surely that isn't the "first photo" you
>>ever took... just the first photo you took that
>>you really liked yourself, maybe, huh?  :)
>>
>>
>
>Well, no, it's not the very first photo I ever took, but it's the first 
>photo that I shot, developed, and printed myself.  It's also the first photo 
>I took with a purpose beyond "vacation snapshot."  When I developed the 
>roll, my prof helped me pick out that shot to print first.  It took about 
>twenty prints before I got a good one, too, and I have most of the prints 
>still.  O_o
>

Oh well when one is talkinga bout first prints... :)  yeah I remember 
those days!

>
>My FIRST first photo was probably of my mom, after handing me the camera for 
>the first time when I was young lad, I'd bet.
>
>John
>
>--
>
I've no idea when I took my first photo - but it would have been with a 
brownie...
however, I remember the first shot, pretty much, that with a "real" 
camera - 35 mm
Mamya Sekkor I think - it was my husband's.  it was a scenic view along 
the blue Ridge parkway.

anyway, that was a ncie photo of yours

ann

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Re: troubleshooting a damaged memory card

2008-04-19 Thread Stan Halpin
How can you be sure? You now how it is with women and drinks...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLjsEc7rI3M

stan

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> She's not going to drink it Cotty.
>
> Cotty wrote:
>> On 19/4/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>
>>
>>> Alcohol works.
>>>
>>
>> I told you so.
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Re: PESO: My First Photo

2008-04-19 Thread John Celio
> John - it 's a nice photo - but surely that isn't the "first photo" you
> ever took... just the first photo you took that
> you really liked yourself, maybe, huh?  :)

Well, no, it's not the very first photo I ever took, but it's the first 
photo that I shot, developed, and printed myself.  It's also the first photo 
I took with a purpose beyond "vacation snapshot."  When I developed the 
roll, my prof helped me pick out that shot to print first.  It took about 
twenty prints before I got a good one, too, and I have most of the prints 
still.  O_o

My FIRST first photo was probably of my mom, after handing me the camera for 
the first time when I was young lad, I'd bet.

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Re: troubleshooting a damaged memory card

2008-04-19 Thread P. J. Alling
She's not going to drink it Cotty.

Cotty wrote:
> On 19/4/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>   
>> Alcohol works.
>> 
>
> I told you so.
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Re: First of the Season

2008-04-19 Thread pnstenquist
Missed this earlier. Very nice. We bought some California strawberries today, 
but we've been buying Mexican berries for quire a few weeks.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: "Christine  Aguila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Very nice Jack.  Hope they tasted good.  Cheers, Christine
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
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> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 5:35 PM
> Subject: PESO: First of the Season
> 
> 
> > Bought our first half-flat of the season today.
> > Love spring.
> >
> >
> > Jack
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Re: The Game

2008-04-19 Thread pnstenquist
Thanks Christine. I appreciate the feedback (Saving bandwidth is off since 
you're the only one who commented on this shot:-).
Paul
 -- Original message --
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> Paul:  I like this very much.  Great contrasting expressions on the 2 
> players.  And the lady to the left is great.  A wife, perhaps, waiting for 
> her husband to finish?  Nice touch.  Cheers, Christine
> 
> 
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Re: Pipedreams

2008-04-19 Thread pnstenquist
Thanks Christine. And thanks for commenting on my other recent pics.
Paul
(saving bandwidth:-)
 -- Original message --
From: "Christine  Aguila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Paul:  Great idea, excellent pose of Grace, a shot that delightfully evokes 
> youth & dreams & innocence etc.  Cheers, Christine
> 
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Re: troubleshooting a damaged memory card

2008-04-19 Thread Jack Davis
LOL..out loud!!

Jack


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> Subject: Re: troubleshooting a damaged memory card
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> On 19/4/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
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> >Alcohol works.
> 
> I told you so.
> 
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Re: troubleshooting a damaged memory card

2008-04-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/4/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Alcohol works.

I told you so.


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Re: troubleshooting a damaged memory card

2008-04-19 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Christine Aguila"
Subject: troubleshooting a damaged memory card


> Hi Everyone:
>
> I had to take 3 quick shots of something to send to someone in an email.  I
> shot the photos, put the memory card in the card reader in my PC tower, &
> couldn't get the PC to read the card.
>
> I then took a quick shot on a different card, and the PC read that card just
> fine.
>
> I looked up Help & it was recommended to wipe the metal contacts with
> alcohol.
>
> Has anyone used this remedy?  Do you suggest a different remedy?  I'm pretty
> sure the card in question is the one I bought with the K10D last June of
> 2007.  It's a Lexar Professional SD 2gig 133x speed.  (As is the 2nd card I
> used.)
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Alcohol works. Use it sparingly on a cotton swab though.
In the old days, we used a pencil eraser for this, I don't know if it is still 
acceptable or 
not. Also, I sometimes have to take a card out and reinsert it to get it to 
read.

William Robb 


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Peso Our first Daffy

2008-04-19 Thread David J Brooks
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7182373

Good day to shoot today, so i killed two birds with one stone.
Testing DA 50 and K10D and recording our flowers.

K10D Da 50, LR adjust and export as email.

Back lite the white pedals.

BTW its the only 1 woth white pedals, all the others are solid yellow.

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Re: troubleshooting a damaged memory card

2008-04-19 Thread Allison Trueman
I have done that to some memory cards before, and sometimes it works,  
other times it doesn't. It doesn't hurt them, it just cleans them.

If this is a card that you use most often, it might just be going  
bad :o(

On Apr 19, 2008, at 7:38 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

> Hi Everyone:
>
> I had to take 3 quick shots of something to send to someone in an  
> email.  I
> shot the photos, put the memory card in the card reader in my PC  
> tower, &
> couldn't get the PC to read the card.
>
> I then took a quick shot on a different card, and the PC read that  
> card just
> fine.
>
> I looked up Help & it was recommended to wipe the metal contacts with
> alcohol.
>
> Has anyone used this remedy?  Do you suggest a different remedy?   
> I'm pretty
> sure the card in question is the one I bought with the K10D last  
> June of
> 2007.  It's a Lexar Professional SD 2gig 133x speed.  (As is the 2nd  
> card I
> used.)
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Cheers,  Christine
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troubleshooting a damaged memory card

2008-04-19 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Everyone:

I had to take 3 quick shots of something to send to someone in an email.  I 
shot the photos, put the memory card in the card reader in my PC tower, & 
couldn't get the PC to read the card.

I then took a quick shot on a different card, and the PC read that card just 
fine.

I looked up Help & it was recommended to wipe the metal contacts with 
alcohol.

Has anyone used this remedy?  Do you suggest a different remedy?  I'm pretty 
sure the card in question is the one I bought with the K10D last June of 
2007.  It's a Lexar Professional SD 2gig 133x speed.  (As is the 2nd card I 
used.)

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,  Christine 



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Re: PESO (OT): ANZAC Bridge

2008-04-19 Thread Derby Chang
Ha,

Beat me to it, Brian :)

It is indeed a beautiful bridge. They are putting up a new statue of a 
New Zealand digger to keep the Australian one company next week.

Thanks to everyone who commented.

D


Brian Walters wrote:
> Are you mad!?  That would make it *too* easy for them to get in.
>
> (Sorry, Kiwis, couldn't resist!  Lots of :-) :-) .)
>
>
> By the way, great shot Derby.  The big version is stunning.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney, Australia
> http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/
>
>
> On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 12:43:20 -0500, "P. J. Alling"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>   
>> Nice rendering, but I am a little disappointed, I thought you guys had 
>> built a bridge from Australia to New Zealand.
>>
>> Derby Chang wrote:
>> 
>>> A little early, but...
>>>
>>> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_04/08_04_anzacbridge/01.htm
>>>
>>> D
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
>
>
>   


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Re: PESO The Duckherd

2008-04-19 Thread Ken Waller
Yep , smaller, economical version of a gooseherd. 
Knarf's favorite.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: PESO The Duckherd


> So that's what those small things are! I've often wondered - I see
> people in the supermarkets down here buying duckherds - they put them
> in a special part of the trolley. They're terribly noisy sometimes. I
> can never see any on the shelves or in the freezers though, so it's a
> good job I don't have any ducks of my own to have herded.
> 
> Bob 
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
>> Behalf Of mike wilson
>> Sent: 19 April 2008 22:29
>> To: pdml@pdml.net
>> Subject: PESO The Duckherd
>> 
>> Here in northern England, far away from the cosmopolitan 
>> south, rural industry still runs as it has for centuries.  
>> Ducks and geese are still walked to market by their owners.  
>> I was lucky enough to chance across one walking their rather 
>> small flock this afternoon.
>> 
>> http://home.fotocommunity.com/mike.a.wilson/index.php?id=52925
>> 3&d=12576820


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RE: PESO The Duckherd

2008-04-19 Thread Bob W
So that's what those small things are! I've often wondered - I see
people in the supermarkets down here buying duckherds - they put them
in a special part of the trolley. They're terribly noisy sometimes. I
can never see any on the shelves or in the freezers though, so it's a
good job I don't have any ducks of my own to have herded.

Bob 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of mike wilson
> Sent: 19 April 2008 22:29
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Subject: PESO The Duckherd
> 
> Here in northern England, far away from the cosmopolitan 
> south, rural industry still runs as it has for centuries.  
> Ducks and geese are still walked to market by their owners.  
> I was lucky enough to chance across one walking their rather 
> small flock this afternoon.
> 
> http://home.fotocommunity.com/mike.a.wilson/index.php?id=52925
> 3&d=12576820


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Re: PESO (OT): ANZAC Bridge

2008-04-19 Thread Brian Walters
Are you mad!?  That would make it *too* easy for them to get in.

(Sorry, Kiwis, couldn't resist!  Lots of :-) :-) .)


By the way, great shot Derby.  The big version is stunning.



Cheers

Brian

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On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 12:43:20 -0500, "P. J. Alling"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Nice rendering, but I am a little disappointed, I thought you guys had 
> built a bridge from Australia to New Zealand.
> 
> Derby Chang wrote:
> > A little early, but...
> >
> > http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_04/08_04_anzacbridge/01.htm
> >
> > D
> >
> >   
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Re: PESO The nature of trees

2008-04-19 Thread Ken Waller

That's a bud. A perambulation has two or more legs.

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- Original Message - 
From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PESO The nature of trees


> Thats a twig. A perambulation, is much darker.
>
> Dave
>
> BTW, i like the shot, how the twig and tree reflection work.
>
> Dave
>
> On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 5:31 PM, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
>> Another from this afternoon's perambulation.
>>
>> 
>> http://home.fotocommunity.com/mike.a.wilson/index.php?id=529253&d=12576790
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Re: PESO: Corrugated Cocky

2008-04-19 Thread Brian Walters
Thanks to all for the comments on this

Godfrey:

> Gulargambone ... looked it up with Google Earth ... I really must get  
> back into travel mode ... !!!

Great name, isn't it?  Great part of the country to visit, too (except
in the middle of summer!)



Ann:
> Enjoyed browsing the other PESOS , too -- some of which I'd seen but 
> many not...
> very nice stuff, but I'm not surprised.  

Thanks for looking - much appreciated.






Cheers

Brian

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Re: PESO The nature of trees

2008-04-19 Thread David J Brooks
Thats a twig. A perambulation, is much darker.

Dave

BTW, i like the shot, how the twig and tree reflection work.

Dave

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Re: PESO 2008 - 69 - GDG

2008-04-19 Thread Ken Waller
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From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PESO 2008 - 69 - GDG

Well at least it was well scene.

> Arrg. that was the most egregious pun ever.  I guess I'll just have to 
> pan this...
> 
> Bob W wrote:
>> Nice panorama... 
>>
>> I like good pans.

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Re: PESO The Duckherd

2008-04-19 Thread David J Brooks
She'll find out that the water fowl business is nothing to get all
quaked up about.

BTW, nice composition

Dave

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> Here in northern England, far away from the cosmopolitan south, rural 
> industry still runs as it has for centuries.  Ducks and geese are still 
> walked to market by their owners.  I was lucky enough to chance across one 
> walking their rather small flock this afternoon.
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Re: L Ron

2008-04-19 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 3:58 PM, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>  >
>  > From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  > Date: 2008/04/19 Sat AM 03:31:08 GMT
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>  > Subject: Re: L Ron
>  >
>  > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 5:11 PM, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > >
>  > >  >
>  > >  > From: Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  > >  > Date: 2008/04/14 Mon PM 10:48:57 GMT
>  > >  > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>  > >  > Subject: Re: L Ron
>  > >
>  > > >
>  > >  > Someone told me once:
>  > >  >
>  > >  > California is like a big bowl of cereal:  even if you take out the
>  > >  > fruits and nuts, you're still left with the flakes.  :)
>  > >
>  > >  Nah.  Life is just a bowl of All-Bran.
>  > >  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pPCYlYWO6w
>  > >  Be cool.
>  >
>  > That is just plain odd...
>
>  Buy yourself a copy of "Ogden's Nut gone Flake" by The Small Faces and grab 
> a dose of genuine 1960's pop culture.
>
>  "Are you sitting comfybold two-square on your botty?  Then I'll begin."

I have that on in album form. Great stuff.

Now i remember three things from the 60's.

Keep em coming lads.:-)

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PESO The nature of trees

2008-04-19 Thread mike wilson
Another from this afternoon's perambulation.

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Re: Artistic portrait

2008-04-19 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Ken Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Too much coffee?
>
>  Any particular reason you posted this @ 451473 bytes?

Too much coffee.

Dave
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>
>  - Original Message -
>  From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Subject: PESO: Artistic portrait
>
>
>  > G'day All,
>  >
>  > 
>  >
>  > Enjoy the awesomeness.
>  >
>  > Cheers,
>  >
>  > Dave
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PESO The Duckherd

2008-04-19 Thread mike wilson
Here in northern England, far away from the cosmopolitan south, rural industry 
still runs as it has for centuries.  Ducks and geese are still walked to market 
by their owners.  I was lucky enough to chance across one walking their rather 
small flock this afternoon.

http://home.fotocommunity.com/mike.a.wilson/index.php?id=529253&d=12576820


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Re: Artistic portrait

2008-04-19 Thread Ken Waller
Too much coffee?

Any particular reason you posted this @ 451473 bytes?

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Subject: PESO: Artistic portrait


> G'day All,
> 
> 
> 
> Enjoy the awesomeness.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
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Re: On line digital prints, Henrys in Ontario.??

2008-04-19 Thread David J Brooks
Also what about Blacks. Any good.?

Dave

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>
>  Kodak Gallery is taking over, and offer limited sizes. I have been looking 
> at a
>  few other places, and would like to see if anyone has used Henrys on
>  line service, and particularly, B&W prints.
>  Or for that matter, and Toronto area places that mail out, that are 
> recommended.
>
>  Again B&W prints would be needed now and again.
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On line digital prints, Henrys in Ontario.??

2008-04-19 Thread David J Brooks
I'm losing Future shops on line print service next month. They did a pretty
good job, even with my odd B&W i sent in.

Kodak Gallery is taking over, and offer limited sizes. I have been looking at a
few other places, and would like to see if anyone has used Henrys on
line service, and particularly, B&W prints.
Or for that matter, and Toronto area places that mail out, that are recommended.

Again B&W prints would be needed now and again.

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RE: PESO: on the N train

2008-04-19 Thread Bob W
 > >> 
> >>> ann sanfedele wrote:
> >>> 
> http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/4727672_Y6UZw/1/279950274_sL
> 4gM/Large
> >>>   
>  password :  dands
>  
[...]
> >
> > 
> http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/4727672_Y6UZw/1/280075156_qN
> jM5/Medium
> >
> > Like the cover of the two "Best of" albums.
> >
> >   
> 
> Yep, Mike's right. Although the original photo, taken by the 
> ledge Angus 
> McBean, was from Please Please Me
> 

That's interesting. I always thought of Angus McBean as a shelf rather
than a ledge. And I had no idea he took that photo of the Beatles -
they were on a verandah, which is a sort of shelf or ledge on the side
of a building, so I suppose it's appropriate. 

I used to work at Selfidges, which is about 200 yards from the EMI
offices in Manchester Square, and it was impossible to walk past
without looking up and thinking about the photo. Since then the
building has been pulled down and replaced. 

I've never liked Angus McBean's photos, but that has earned him a bit
of respite from my dislike.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article18511.ece

Bob


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Re: Peculiar idea and/or question

2008-04-19 Thread Carlos Royo
Boris Liberman escribió:

> Which prompts my question - is there such a thing as a camera that is 
> specifically designed to be used by left-handed people?
> 

Some years ago, there were a pair of cameras that could match your 
description.
The Yashica Samurai had versions for right or left handed users. And 
there was a Ricoh SLR (I don't recall the exact model) which had a 
button on the left side of the camera that could be configured to act as 
a shutter release.

Carlos

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RE: Make mine a Bud

2008-04-19 Thread mike wilson

> 
> From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2008/04/19 Sat PM 03:19:25 GMT
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> Subject: RE: Make mine a Bud
> 
> > Lazy bugger.  
> 
> Steady on, Ann.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjxY9rZwNGU&feature=related
> 
> Bob  

Careful.  I suspect there is no shortage of Argument Juice there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKEuzxC4eGc

> 
> > 
> > Bob W wrote:
> > 
> > >>>http://www.web-options.com/BudBW.jpg
> > >>>  
> > >>>
> > >>Now a tighter crop from the left, just including the first taxi :)
> > >>-- 
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Cheers,
> > >>  Cotty
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >any further editing is left as an exercise for the viewer.
> > >
> > >Bob
> > >  
> > >
> > Lazy bugger.  
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> > I like the BW  convert.  
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Re: PESO: on the N train

2008-04-19 Thread Derby Chang
mike wilson wrote:
>> From: ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: 2008/04/19 Sat PM 01:46:50 GMT
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>> Subject: Re: PESO: on the N train
>>
>> Derby Chang wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> ann sanfedele wrote:
>>> http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/4727672_Y6UZw/1/279950274_sL4gM/Large
>>>   
 password :  dands
 
>>> I like the cartoonist shot and the Beatles homage very much.
>>>
>>> D
>>>
>>>   
>> I had to think a moment about the Beatles homage... birthday boy's 
>> nickname is "D"  - he had already requested that
>> we get a shot of him with a D train sign overhead - we were walking 
>> along 14th street and he spotted the Big D store..
>> I gather that's the one you meant, thinking of Abbey Road.  IF I'm 
>> wrong, don't be shy about telling me.
>> 
>
> http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/4727672_Y6UZw/1/280075156_qNjM5/Medium
>
> Like the cover of the two "Best of" albums.
>
>   

Yep, Mike's right. Although the original photo, taken by the ledge Angus 
McBean, was from Please Please Me

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RE: Make mine a Bud

2008-04-19 Thread Steve Desjardins
Nice glasses . . .

My father would have been about 73 (I'm 50).  I was first exposed to
both Chimay (spelled correctly this time) and Shiner Bock while I was
working at the University of Texas at Austin.  Shiner started appearing
in the local supermarkets about 10 years ago and I was pleased to
discover the beer seemed as good as I remembered it.  The Chimay is
imported in 750 ml bottles by a local specialty store, Washington St.
Purveyors, who will go and get just about anything you want.  

I have a cold bottle of Chimay in the fridge now . . .   Maybe tonight
is good time to change that ;-)

>>> "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 04/19/08 2:41 PM >>>
You'll be needing some new glasses then...

http://www.belgianbeerglasses.com/

I don't know how old you are, or what generation your Dad is from, but
over here it wasn't really until the 70s that the good beer movement
really starting going. For the previous generation the choices seem to
have been strictly limited. I have fond memories of the beers my Dad
used to drink because of course they were the first ones I drank, even
though I generally wouldn't choose them now. We lived the colonial
poolside life in Singapore in the mid-60s, and my Dad drank cold
Heineken, Carlsberg and Tuborg from very tall conical glasses. Sipping
from them was how we developed a taste for beer as kids.

Bob

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> Subject: Re: Make mine a Bud
> 
> Nice shot.  
> 
> That's a good use for Budweiser.  My father drank that stuff for
years
> and I could never stand it.  The good news for me is that 
> this tiny town
> I live in now gets Shiner Bock and Chemay.  ;-)
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Re: PESO: on the N train

2008-04-19 Thread mike wilson

> 
> From: ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2008/04/19 Sat PM 01:46:50 GMT
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: Re: PESO: on the N train
> 
> Derby Chang wrote:
> 
> >ann sanfedele wrote:
>>http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/4727672_Y6UZw/1/279950274_sL4gM/Large
> >>
> >>password :  dands
> >I like the cartoonist shot and the Beatles homage very much.
> >
> >D
> >
> I had to think a moment about the Beatles homage... birthday boy's 
> nickname is "D"  - he had already requested that
> we get a shot of him with a D train sign overhead - we were walking 
> along 14th street and he spotted the Big D store..
> I gather that's the one you meant, thinking of Abbey Road.  IF I'm 
> wrong, don't be shy about telling me.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/4727672_Y6UZw/1/280075156_qNjM5/Medium

Like the cover of the two "Best of" albums.


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Re: Make mine a Bud

2008-04-19 Thread mike wilson

> 
> From: ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Lazy bugger.  

Mark!


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Re: L Ron

2008-04-19 Thread mike wilson

> 
> From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2008/04/19 Sat AM 03:31:08 GMT
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: Re: L Ron
> 
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 5:11 PM, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  >
> >  > From: Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  > Date: 2008/04/14 Mon PM 10:48:57 GMT
> >  > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> >  > Subject: Re: L Ron
> >
> > >
> >  > Someone told me once:
> >  >
> >  > California is like a big bowl of cereal:  even if you take out the
> >  > fruits and nuts, you're still left with the flakes.  :)
> >
> >  Nah.  Life is just a bowl of All-Bran.
> >  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pPCYlYWO6w
> >  Be cool.
> 
> That is just plain odd...

Buy yourself a copy of "Ogden's Nut gone Flake" by The Small Faces and grab a 
dose of genuine 1960's pop culture.

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Re: PESO 2008 - 69 - GDG

2008-04-19 Thread Cotty


>>  >>>http://homepage.mac.com/godders/69-kitchen.jpg
>> > 
>> >>> Nice panorama...
>> >>>
>> >>> I like good pans.
>> >>>
>> >> Arrg. that was the most egregious pun ever.  I guess I'll 
>> just have to
>> >> pan this...
>> >>
>> > Out of the frying pan and into the fire, eh?
>> 
>> Possibly. But that's another kettle of fish.
>
>this thread's going nowhere. Someone should put it out of its misery,
>and skillet.

Yah, put a lid on it.

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Re: PESO 2008 - 69 - GDG

2008-04-19 Thread Cotty


>> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/69-kitchen.jpg
>> Nice panorama...
>>
>> I like good pans.
>>
> Arrg. that was the most egregious pun ever.  I guess I'll just have to
> pan this...
>
 Out of the frying pan and into the fire, eh?
>>> Possibly. But that's another kettle of fish.
>> 
>> Don't talk crock.
>
>Har! There's a case of the pot calling the kettle black!

This is a real grilling.

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RE: Make mine a Bud

2008-04-19 Thread Bob W
You'll be needing some new glasses then...

http://www.belgianbeerglasses.com/

I don't know how old you are, or what generation your Dad is from, but
over here it wasn't really until the 70s that the good beer movement
really starting going. For the previous generation the choices seem to
have been strictly limited. I have fond memories of the beers my Dad
used to drink because of course they were the first ones I drank, even
though I generally wouldn't choose them now. We lived the colonial
poolside life in Singapore in the mid-60s, and my Dad drank cold
Heineken, Carlsberg and Tuborg from very tall conical glasses. Sipping
from them was how we developed a taste for beer as kids.

Bob

> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Steve Desjardins
> Sent: 19 April 2008 19:13
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: Make mine a Bud
> 
> Nice shot.  
> 
> That's a good use for Budweiser.  My father drank that stuff for
years
> and I could never stand it.  The good news for me is that 
> this tiny town
> I live in now gets Shiner Bock and Chemay.  ;-)
> 


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Re: PESO 2008 - 69 - GDG

2008-04-19 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote:
> 
> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/69-kitchen.jpg
> Nice panorama...
>
> I like good pans.
>
 Arrg. that was the most egregious pun ever.  I guess I'll just have to
 pan this...

>>> Out of the frying pan and into the fire, eh?
>> Possibly. But that's another kettle of fish.
> 
> Don't talk crock.

Har! There's a case of the pot calling the kettle black!




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Re: Make mine a Bud

2008-04-19 Thread Steve Desjardins
Nice shot.  

That's a good use for Budweiser.  My father drank that stuff for years
and I could never stand it.  The good news for me is that this tiny town
I live in now gets Shiner Bock and Chemay.  ;-)

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Re: PESO 2008 - 69 - GDG

2008-04-19 Thread Cotty


> >>>http://homepage.mac.com/godders/69-kitchen.jpg
>> 
 Nice panorama...

 I like good pans.

>>> Arrg. that was the most egregious pun ever.  I guess I'll just have to
>>> pan this...
>>>
>> Out of the frying pan and into the fire, eh?
>
>Possibly. But that's another kettle of fish.

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Re: 18-55, 16-50, and Zenitar views compared

2008-04-19 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:35:15 +0200 schreef Luka Knezevic-Strika  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> try comparing [EMAIL PROTECTED] and fa 50 1.4 field of view. you'll be 
> surprised

Photodo.com has (or used to have) tested focal lengths: Pentax AF 50's  
were actally 52mm. I would guess the 16-50 would stop a little short of  
the 50mm mark, as zooms tend be a little 'optimistically' marked. Again,  
see Photodo.com for examples.

If the 16-50 has a narrower fov @50 than the FA, I'll be surprised.  
Otherwise not...

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Re: Peculiar idea and/or question

2008-04-19 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Sat, 19 Apr 2008 00:18:17 +0200 schreef Brian Walters  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Yes,
>
> I have an old Exa (downmarket version of the Exacta) with the left
> handed shutter release.   It's not very intuitive if you're used to the
> right handed release, and I often wondered why Ihagee designed their
> cameras that way - I doubt that many people used to the right handed
> release would have bought into the system.

I don't think their custumers were used to anything... As far as I know,  
the Exacta was for SLR's what the Beetle was for cars, at least in Europe.

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RE: PESO 2008 - 69 - GDG

2008-04-19 Thread Bob W
> > 
>  >>>http://homepage.mac.com/godders/69-kitchen.jpg
> > 
> >>> Nice panorama...
> >>>
> >>> I like good pans.
> >>>
> >> Arrg. that was the most egregious pun ever.  I guess I'll 
> just have to
> >> pan this...
> >>
> > Out of the frying pan and into the fire, eh?
> 
> Possibly. But that's another kettle of fish.

this thread's going nowhere. Someone should put it out of its misery,
and skillet.

Bob


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Re: Make mine a Bud

2008-04-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/4/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Btw, it may please you to hear that my current favourite is an ale not
>too different from the Fiddler; the Old Speckled Hen.  :-)

I gather there might be the odd shipment of OSH and Those Hobgoblins in
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Re: K20

2008-04-19 Thread Joseph Tainter
I've been very pleased with high ISO performance. Very nice results
at 1600 with noise reduction set to "weak." Quite acceptable at 3200
as well. The 6400 performance is noisy but better than no picture at
all:-). Generally, I'd say it's 1 1/2 to 2 stops better than the
K10D. My K20D pics at 3200 are close to what I was getting at 1000 or
so with the K10D.
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Re: PESO 2008 - 69 - GDG

2008-04-19 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> "P. J. Alling"  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Bob W wrote:
>>> Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com
> 
 >>>http://homepage.mac.com/godders/69-kitchen.jpg
> 
>>> Nice panorama...
>>>
>>> I like good pans.
>>>
>> Arrg. that was the most egregious pun ever.  I guess I'll just have to
>> pan this...
>>
> Out of the frying pan and into the fire, eh?

Possibly. But that's another kettle of fish.



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Re: Make mine a Bud

2008-04-19 Thread P. J. Alling
A good beer can be drunk at any temperature, some are just better cold 
than others...
(On the other hand, I still can't understand what anyone sees in Red 
Stripe), still any beer is better than no beer at all.

Bob Sullivan wrote:
> Beer is an acquired taste.
> Warm English beer is a punishment the English try to share.
> We'll have none of it over here.
> You can keep your damned tea too!  ;-)
> Revolutionary regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 12:40 AM, John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> That's definitely not true.  There are a whole lot of American
>> beers that are greatly preferable to much of British beer.
>> Budweiser, though, is not one of them.
>>
>> Mind you, you don't have to go far in most of the UK to find a
>> beer better than almost anything you can buy in the USA.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 10:51:58PM -0400, ann sanfedele wrote:
>> 
>>> I just figured any British beer had to be better than any of ours - and
>>> the "coals to New Castle" aspect of it all, too.
>>>
>>> Didn't know about the Bud made over there
>>>
>>> ann
>>>
>>> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>>
>>>   
 Yep. There are a lot of American beers that are worse than Bud:
 Pabst, Hamms, Busch (a cheaper Anheuser Busch brand), LaBatt's Blue.
 Oh wait, that's Canadian:-).
 Paul
 On Apr 18, 2008, at 10:14 PM, Rick Womer wrote:


 
> Geez, Frank, you haven't done much beer drinking in
> the US, have you?
>
> Great photo, btw!
>
> Rick
>
> --- frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>   
>> I'm not such a fan of American
>> "mainstream" beers
>> (nor Canadian mainstream brews, come to think of
>> it), but Bud's the
>> worst of a bad lot...
>>
>>
>>
>> 
> http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW
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Re: PESO: Co-Pilot

2008-04-19 Thread P. J. Alling
Actually she could simply put the cigarette in her mouth when she's 
shifting, but that car driver and dog so screams AUTOMATIC transmission...

Derby Chang wrote:
> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>   
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7179495&size=lg
>>
>>   
>> 
>
> Dog is my co-pilot.
>
> If it is a manual convertible, I wonder if the terrier is shifting for 
> her, since she needs at least one had to steer.
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Re: Patroit SD Cards

2008-04-19 Thread Bob Sullivan
I've got their 4GB class 6cards and they work fine.
My 8GB pqi card didn't cost much more ~$38.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 9:28 AM, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> class 6 8gb cards
> and am wondering if this is too good to be true or not.
> Any pointers for finding if this is a good product is appreciated.
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> Thanks
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Re: PESO 2008 - 69 - GDG

2008-04-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Out of the frying pan and into the fire, eh?

Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com

On Apr 19, 2008, at 10:38 AM, "P. J. Alling"  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Arrg. that was the most egregious pun ever.  I guess I'll just have to
> pan this...
>
> Bob W wrote:
>> Nice panorama...
>>
>> I like good pans.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>>> -Original Message-
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>>> Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi
>>> Sent: 19 April 2008 05:58
>>> To: DUG; PDML List; PAW Picture-A-Week project;
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Subject: PESO 2008 - 69 - GDG
>>>
>>> From an evening/night shoot down the street in Mountain View ...
>>>
>>> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/69-kitchen.jpg
>>> Restaurant Kitchen - Mountain View 2008
>>> Olympus E-1 + Summilux-D 25mm f/1.4 ASPH
>>> ISO 400 @ f/1.6 @ 1/125 sec
>>>
>>> Comments and critique always appreciated.
>>>
>>> More from the night's shoot:
>>>   http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157604608275096/
>>>
>>> enjoy,
>>> Godfrey
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: K20

2008-04-19 Thread Marcus A. Hofmann
I am using a K200D, but as I understand it, the anti shake technology  
is basically the same as in the K20D. I have managed to get sharp  
pictures handheld at  one second at night. I takes a little practise  
but it works great.

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Am 19.04.2008 um 14:33 schrieb Bob Sullivan:

> Still evaluating high ISO performance...forgot to turn noise reduction
> ON, but I'll use 800 typically when I was only happy at 400 before.
> Anti-shake works and is a blessing!  You'll get 2+ stops out of it.
> Seeing a shot at 1/4th second look good is amazing!
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 7:25 AM, Kevin Waterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> wrote:
>> Hi all, ltns
>>
>> I have been reading up a litte on the K20 and thought to get the  
>> pro's advice from the people who know pentax best.
>>
>> I was thinking of picking up a couple and wondered at the  
>> performance at high ISO as I shoot mostly in the dark (stage photos).
>>
>> The reviews I have read speak favourably of the model but with  
>> little info about ISO performance.
>> Also, does the anti shake give any gains?
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Kevin
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Re: PESO (OT): ANZAC Bridge

2008-04-19 Thread P. J. Alling
Nice rendering, but I am a little disappointed, I thought you guys had 
built a bridge from Australia to New Zealand.

Derby Chang wrote:
> A little early, but...
>
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_04/08_04_anzacbridge/01.htm
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Re: Make mine a Bud

2008-04-19 Thread AlunFoto
Wha?!?

Unfortunately, neither the Fiddler or the Hobbetigobbledy thingy can
be had over here. However, Wychwood also makes an organic beer which
can be found in some of the larger supermarkets. The name escapes me
at the moment.

Btw, it may please you to hear that my current favourite is an ale not
too different from the Fiddler; the Old Speckled Hen.  :-)

Jostein

2008/4/19 Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On 19/4/08, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>  suppliesfornaturephotographyweekend.html>
>
> Har!
>
> Actually I'm not a big fan of the Hobgoblin - a bit too rich for me.
> Prefer the Fiddler's Elbow. Now Jostein
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Re: PESO 2008 - 69 - GDG

2008-04-19 Thread P. J. Alling
Arrg. that was the most egregious pun ever.  I guess I'll just have to 
pan this...

Bob W wrote:
> Nice panorama... 
>
> I like good pans.
>
> Bob
>
>   
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
>> Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi
>> Sent: 19 April 2008 05:58
>> To: DUG; PDML List; PAW Picture-A-Week project; 
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: PESO 2008 - 69 - GDG
>>
>>  From an evening/night shoot down the street in Mountain View ...
>>
>> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/69-kitchen.jpg
>> Restaurant Kitchen - Mountain View 2008
>> Olympus E-1 + Summilux-D 25mm f/1.4 ASPH
>> ISO 400 @ f/1.6 @ 1/125 sec
>>
>> Comments and critique always appreciated.
>>
>> More from the night's shoot:
>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157604608275096/
>>
>> enjoy,
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Re: Make mine a Bud

2008-04-19 Thread David Savage
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 11:19 PM, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Lazy bugger.
>
>  Steady on, Ann.
>
>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjxY9rZwNGU&feature=related

Har!

Cheers,

Dave

>  > Bob W wrote:
>  >
>  > >>>http://www.web-options.com/BudBW.jpg
>  > >>>
>  > >>>
>  > >>Now a tighter crop from the left, just including the first taxi :)
>  > >>--
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >>Cheers,
>  > >>  Cotty
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >
>  > >any further editing is left as an exercise for the viewer.
>  > >
>  > >Bob
>  > >
>  > >
>  > Lazy bugger.
>  >
>  > I like the BW  convert.
>  >
>  > ann

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Re: Make mine a Bud

2008-04-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/4/08, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:



Har!

Actually I'm not a big fan of the Hobgoblin - a bit too rich for me.
Prefer the Fiddler's Elbow. Now Jostein

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Re: Make mine a Bud

2008-04-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/4/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I think that is referred to as alcoholism.

Well, only after 7pm, but otherwise I wouldn't argue with that.

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RE: Make mine a Bud

2008-04-19 Thread Bob W
Hobgoblin is a damn fine beer, and slips down a treat with fresh fish
& chips, as served at the Cod & Lobster:

http://www.staithes-town.info/business/cod_n_lobster.htm

> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Mark Roberts
> > 
> > Not when i bugger off with the truck to shoot pictures, and 
> forget to
> > leave the cooler behind.:-)
> 
> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfm2007/suppliesfornaturephoto
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Re: Make mine a Bud

2008-04-19 Thread ann sanfedele
I guess youtube thing is pointing to some comically related  thingy - alas,

I don't have java on netscape and I don't have speakers at all.  

Maybe in a year or two I'll be able to endure sound on the computer (again)

xo,
ann



Bob W wrote:

>>Lazy bugger.  
>>
>>
>
>Steady on, Ann.
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjxY9rZwNGU&feature=related
>
>Bob  
>
>  
>
>>Bob W wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>http://www.web-options.com/BudBW.jpg
> 
>
>  
>
Now a tighter crop from the left, just including the first taxi :)
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>>>
>>>Bob
>>> 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>Lazy bugger.  
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>>I like the BW  convert.  
>>
>>ann
>>
>>
>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>  
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Re: Make mine a Bud

2008-04-19 Thread Mark Roberts
David J Brooks wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 10:14 PM, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Geez, Frank, you haven't done much beer drinking in
>>  the US, have you?
> 
> Not when i bugger off with the truck to shoot pictures, and forget to
> leave the cooler behind.:-)

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Re: Artistic portrait

2008-04-19 Thread Christine Aguila
Dave:  You do playful & silly very well. :-)  Cheers, Christine


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> Enjoy the awesomeness.
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> Cheers,
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Re: First of the Season

2008-04-19 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, and yes, they did..even with synthetic whipped cream. 

Jack


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> Very nice Jack.  Hope they tasted good.  Cheers, Christine
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> 
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> > Bought our first half-flat of the season today.
> > Love spring.
> >
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Re: First of the Season

2008-04-19 Thread Christine Aguila
Very nice Jack.  Hope they tasted good.  Cheers, Christine


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Re: Corrugated Cocky

2008-04-19 Thread Christine Aguila
Looks good from here, Brian.  Nice photo.  Cheers, Christine


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> 'evening all,
>
> On the road into Gulargambone there are a series of corrugated iron
> cockatoos mounted on poles along the roadside.  This one was
> particularly photogenic as the iron had weathered nicely to give a range
> of textures and colours.
>
> Unfortunately, when I passed through the sky was dull and overcast and
> the resultant images didn't depict the colours that I remembered.  So
> I've worked on this fairly heavily and even put a blue gradient in the
> sky (the colour was sampled from another image).
>
> Anyway, here 'tis.  The colours look more realistic to my eye but have I
> overworked it?
>
>
> http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/86183/Corrugated_Cocky.html
>
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
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Re: Co-Pilot

2008-04-19 Thread Christine Aguila
Excellent.  The dog's pose is great & balances will with the driver's pose. 
Nice light and the red car makes the photo great as well.  Cheers, Christine


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Re: My First Photo

2008-04-19 Thread Christine Aguila
John:  A very nice first photo indeed.  Your web gallery will be quite a 
historical record of all your work.  The keyword things is, yes, pretty 
neat.  Good luck with your project.  Cheers, Christine


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> Tonight I've begun the process of posting to my new gallery all my best 
> work
> from the past eight years, starting with the first good photo I took upon
> switching majors from Geology to Art Studio back at UC Davis.  It was fall
> of 2000, and I was just learning how to develop and print on my own.
>
> http://www.neovenator.com/2008/04/get-this-party-started.html
> (the first line of the post has nothing to do with the photo)
>
> It was the only successful 35mm photo I took that quarter, and it was 
> taken
> with either a Pentax IQZoom or Olympus point-and-shoot camera.  The rest 
> of
> my work for that class was done with an Olympus C3030 digital camera, back
> when 3 megapixels was as high-res as consumers could get.   Used that 
> camera
> until I doubled my resolution years later with the *istD.
>
> I lost the negative some years ago, so this is a scan of a print.
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Re: PESO (OT): ANZAC Bridge

2008-04-19 Thread Christine Aguila
Derby:  Lovely.  The bridge is very impressive.  Cheers, Christine


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>
> A little early, but...
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Re: Pipedreams

2008-04-19 Thread Christine Aguila
Paul:  Great idea, excellent pose of Grace, a shot that delightfully evokes 
youth & dreams & innocence etc.  Cheers, Christine


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Re: PESO 2008 - 65 - GDG

2008-04-19 Thread Christine Aguila
Godfrey:  Lovely--& yes, larger has more impact.  Cheers, Christine


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> Spent a bit of time experimenting with the Lightroom 2 Public Beta
> this morning, using copies of some exposures I made while visiting
> Alcatraz in 2006 with the Pentax *ist DS as a test image set. I did a
> monochrome rendering of this photo a year or more ago, decided to
> give it a whirl in a color rendering ... and liked the results:
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/65-sailboat.jpg
> Sailboat At Sunset - San Francisco Bay 2006
> Pentax *ist DS + FA77/1.8 Limited
> ISO 200 @ f/8 @ 1/640 sec
>
> I think it looks much nicer in a larger rendering, however, so this
> is at ~1000 pixels tall:
>
> http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2109/2423476934_c743a311fd_o.jpg
>
> Comments and critique always appreciated.
>
> enjoy
> Godfrey
>
>
>
> FWIW about Lightroom 2 Public Beta:
>
> Lightroom 2 proves to have several nice additions for image
> management and editing. It's too early to have an opinion on all of
> it ... I haven't had much time to work with it yet ... but I'm
> pleased so far with the direction they're going in both features and
> UI from this quick 'getting familiar' use.
>
> Remember if you experiment with it that this is still a beta release.
> DO NOT commit your original files to it. It seems pretty darn stable
> and useable so far, but for release work use v1.4.1.
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Re: PESO 2008 - 69 - GDG

2008-04-19 Thread Christine Aguila
Godfrey:  I like this very much.  Great job at rendering the texture of 
metal & the BW is great.  cheers, Christine


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Subject: PESO 2008 - 69 - GDG


> From an evening/night shoot down the street in Mountain View ...
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/69-kitchen.jpg
> Restaurant Kitchen - Mountain View 2008
> Olympus E-1 + Summilux-D 25mm f/1.4 ASPH
> ISO 400 @ f/1.6 @ 1/125 sec
>
> Comments and critique always appreciated.
>
> More from the night's shoot:
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Re: The Game

2008-04-19 Thread Christine Aguila
Paul:  I like this very much.  Great contrasting expressions on the 2 
players.  And the lady to the left is great.  A wife, perhaps, waiting for 
her husband to finish?  Nice touch.  Cheers, Christine


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> Outside the barber shop on a fine spring day.
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7179497&size=lg
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Re: PESOs: dripping nose and an extra sky

2008-04-19 Thread Christine Aguila
Luka:  I lol outloud at 4293.  I don't feel tricked on the sunrise.  I like 
it very much.  Cheers, Christine


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Subject: PESOs: dripping nose and an extra sky


> hey there,
> here's two photos of my dripping nose:
>
> http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg221/sprjemiste/_IGP4293.jpg
>
> http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg221/sprjemiste/_IGP4297-Edit.jpg
>
>
> and here's a sunrise i experienced from my window a few dawns ago.
>
> http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg221/sprjemiste/_IGP4247-Edit-2.jpg
>
> (ps-ing involved, i don't generally mind it as long as the result is
> eyepleasing, but you may, so sorry if you felt tricked)
>
> best,
> luka
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Re: Where have all the coyotes gone?

2008-04-19 Thread Christine Aguila
A sweet  and  nicely sharp bunny!  Cheers, Christine


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Re: K20

2008-04-19 Thread Adam Maas
Short of a D3 or a 1DmIII, the K20D's high ISO is pretty much
competitive with the best. I've compaed my D300 to Paul Stenquist's
ISO6400 shots from the K20D and found noise performance to be very
similar. Anything else in the pricerange except a 5D will perform
worse at high ISO's (the 5D might be a hair better, but it tops out at
3200).

-Adam

On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Kevin Waterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all, ltns
>
>  I have been reading up a litte on the K20 and thought to get the pro's 
> advice from the people who know pentax best.
>
>  I was thinking of picking up a couple and wondered at the performance at 
> high ISO as I shoot mostly in the dark (stage photos).
>
>  The reviews I have read speak favourably of the model but with little info 
> about ISO performance.
>  Also, does the anti shake give any gains?
>
>  Kind regards
>  Kevin
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RE: Make mine a Bud

2008-04-19 Thread Bob W
> 
> > I would rather drink American Bud than nothing at all. How 
> sad is *that*.
> 
> I think that is referred to as alcoholism.
> 
> William Robb

Yes indeed, and very dangerous. So why not stick to Strychnine, as I
do?

Bob


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RE: Make mine a Bud

2008-04-19 Thread Bob W
> Lazy bugger.  

Steady on, Ann.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjxY9rZwNGU&feature=related

Bob  

> 
> Bob W wrote:
> 
> >>>http://www.web-options.com/BudBW.jpg
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>Now a tighter crop from the left, just including the first taxi :)
> >>-- 
> >>
> >>
> >>Cheers,
> >>  Cotty
> >>
> >>
> >
> >any further editing is left as an exercise for the viewer.
> >
> >Bob
> >  
> >
> Lazy bugger.  
> 
> I like the BW  convert.  
> 
> ann
> 
> >
> >  
> >
> 
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Re: Two of my shots are to be used for a local calendar.

2008-04-19 Thread Christine Aguila
Great story, Bob.  Cheers, Christine


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Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 3:56 AM
Subject: RE: Two of my shots are to be used for a local calendar.


>>
>> If they didn't want their barn photographed, they shouldn't have put
>
>> it out in the open so close to a public road.
>>
>> stan
>>
>
> That reminds me of a story one of friends tells. He was a professional
> photographer for many years and had been commissioned to take some
> snaps around a castle which was built in the 11th century. He was
> walking around with a gaggle of American tourists, listening to the
> tour guide go into the history of the place, and the nobles and
> aristocrats who'd owned it over the centuries, and all the battles and
> sieges that had taken place. All the time the guide had to pause
> briefly while aeroplanes flew overhead every couple of minutes and
> drowned out his commentary. Finally it all became too much for Pammy
> from Badiddlyboing, Odawidaho, who turned to my friend and said "Gee,
> you'd think with all their money and armies they'da built their castle
> further from the airport!"
>
> Bob
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Re: Two of my shots are to be used for a local calendar.

2008-04-19 Thread Christine Aguila
Congrats, Dave.  This is excellent news--and the shots are great!  Cheers, 
Christine


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> Both are very nice - congratulations!
>
> On Apr 18, 2008, at 9:56 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
>> Hi all.
>>
>> Just got word, that 2 of the 4 photos i submitted ... will be used.
>>
>> ...The red barn and pond is on a golf course, and i shot it from a
>> public
>> road. That should not be a problem, should it.
>
> If they didn't want their barn photographed, they shouldn't have put
> it out in the open so close to a public road.
>
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Re: Make mine a Bud

2008-04-19 Thread Christine Aguila
Bob W:  Excellent shot!  Great composition etc. Cheers, Christine


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> Snapped earlier this afternoon. The scene reminded me of a certain
> style of fashion photography from the 50s/60s by Norman Parkinson or
> David Bailey.
>
> http://www.web-options.com/Bud.jpg
>
> Bob
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Re: Make mine a Bud

2008-04-19 Thread William Robb

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Subject: Re: Make mine a Bud



> I would rather drink American Bud than nothing at all. How sad is *that*.

I think that is referred to as alcoholism.

William Robb

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Re: K20

2008-04-19 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Kevin Waterson"
Subject: K20


> Hi all, ltns
>
> I have been reading up a litte on the K20 and thought to get the pro's advice 
> from the people 
> who know pentax best.
>
> I was thinking of picking up a couple and wondered at the performance at high 
> ISO as I shoot 
> mostly in the dark (stage photos).
>
> The reviews I have read speak favourably of the model but with little info 
> about ISO 
> performance.
> Also, does the anti shake give any gains?

High ISO performance up to ISO1000 is excellent, it starts to fall off above 
that, with ISO3200 
being about the absolute limit of usability (and you'd better like noise in the 
dark areas, 
along with some banding). You can shoot up to 6400 with this camera, and the 
pictures are noisy 
but surprisingly OK considering.
Antishake helps keep the camera image steady for a couple of stops slower than 
with no shake 
reduction, but it doesn't help much if the subject is moving.

Here, I posted this last month, you might be interested:

The top picture is shot at ISO6400!!
With a 100% detail shot below.

The studio thing was a 30 second light set-up shot at iso 800, because i am a 
dork sometimes.
Below it is a 100% detail as well.
None of the images recieved any post processing, other than the default 
settings in camera, and
default settings in ACR. No sharpening, or levels or anything.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/k20/K20_page1.html

The EXIF data is on the full frame shots, but

the top picture is shot with the 77mm lens, 1/50th sec at f/2.5, ISO 6400.

The portrait is with the 77mm lens, 1/160th sec at f/11, ISO 800.

The page is 760K.

William Robb 


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Re: Make mine a Bud

2008-04-19 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Loveless" 
Subject: Re: Make mine a Bud


> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> Yep. There are a lot of American beers that are worse than Bud:  
>> Pabst, Hamms, Busch (a cheaper Anheuser Busch brand), LaBatt's Blue.  
>> Oh wait, that's Canadian:-).
>> Paul
> 
> Canadia.  America Jr.  What's the difference?

Our stuff is better.

William Robb

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Re: K20

2008-04-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
I've been very pleased with high ISO performance. Very nice results  
at 1600 with noise reduction set to "weak." Quite acceptable at 3200  
as well. The 6400 performance is noisy but better than no picture at  
all:-). Generally, I'd say it's 1 1/2 to 2 stops better than the  
K10D. My K20D pics at 3200 are close to what I was getting at 1000 or  
so with the K10D.
Paul
On Apr 19, 2008, at 8:25 AM, Kevin Waterson wrote:
> Hi all, ltns
>
> I have been reading up a litte on the K20 and thought to get the  
> pro's advice from the people who know pentax best.
>
> I was thinking of picking up a couple and wondered at the  
> performance at high ISO as I shoot mostly in the dark (stage photos).
>
> The reviews I have read speak favourably of the model but with  
> little info about ISO performance.
> Also, does the anti shake give any gains?
>
> Kind regards
> Kevin
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Patroit SD Cards

2008-04-19 Thread William Robb
Has anyone got experience with this brand? I found a price of Can$ 31.99 for 
class 6 8gb cards 
and am wondering if this is too good to be true or not.
Any pointers for finding if this is a good product is appreciated.

Thanks

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Re: PESO: on the N train

2008-04-19 Thread ann sanfedele
Derby Chang wrote:

>ann sanfedele wrote:
>  
>
>>Did a photo shoot yesterday for a young lady who wanted to have photos 
>>of herself and her boyfriend
>>romping around NY - they are from Toronto  - not the "this is me in 
>>front of the Empire State" type -
>>although it turns out she kinda did want some of those...  She hired me 
>>based on my gallery on line
>>and had said she particularly liked my black and white stuff of Paris 
>>and the Scrabblers...
>>
>>It was a difficult job - some stuff they wanted was undoable given the 
>>time frame...
>>But I kinda liked this one:
>>
>>Sorry about the password on this one but I don't want to go "whole 
>>world" on my site with this yet..
>>
>>http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/4727672_Y6UZw/1/279950274_sL4gM/Large
>>
>>password :  dands
>>
>>ann
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>>
>
>A very unusual sales lead, Ann. I hope you get a few more recommends 
>from this.
>
I'm waiting for them to do a final review of the "contact" sheets I gave 
them and get my final bucks but I don't want
to nag 'em .  

>I like the cartoonist shot and the Beatles homage very much.
>
>D
>
I had to think a moment about the Beatles homage... birthday boy's 
nickname is "D"  - he had already requested that
we get a shot of him with a D train sign overhead - we were walking 
along 14th street and he spotted the Big D store..
I gather that's the one you meant, thinking of Abbey Road.  IF I'm 
wrong, don't be shy about telling me.

Best,
ann



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Re: PESO: My First Photo

2008-04-19 Thread ann sanfedele
John - it 's a nice photo - but surely that isn't the "first photo" you 
ever took... just the first photo you took that
you really liked yourself, maybe, huh?  :)

I thought about going in the opposite direction when I was at Hunter, 
but it got too complicated (That is, getting
out of  English lit and such and going to Geology.)  I'm glad I didn't , 
now.

ann


John Celio wrote:

>Tonight I've begun the process of posting to my new gallery all my best work 
>from the past eight years, starting with the first good photo I took upon 
>switching majors from Geology to Art Studio back at UC Davis.  It was fall 
>of 2000, and I was just learning how to develop and print on my own.
>
>http://www.neovenator.com/2008/04/get-this-party-started.html
>(the first line of the post has nothing to do with the photo)
>
>It was the only successful 35mm photo I took that quarter, and it was taken 
>with either a Pentax IQZoom or Olympus point-and-shoot camera.  The rest of 
>my work for that class was done with an Olympus C3030 digital camera, back 
>when 3 megapixels was as high-res as consumers could get.   Used that camera 
>until I doubled my resolution years later with the *istD.
>
>I lost the negative some years ago, so this is a scan of a print.
>
>John Celio
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