Re: wHICH fLASH UNIT FOR K10D OR K20D

[Thibouille]

a little feature which *might* be usefull to some so I will write
about it again:
Metz offers (with 58AF1 only, the 48AF1 has no embedded sensor) auto flash.
Metz auto flash works "automaticaly" which means it reads
aperture/iso/focal  etc settings from the camera.

It means you can use auto flash as easily as PTTL but.. without PTTL.
Usefull if you don't like PTTL or if you need to cure problems as:

* reflections (mirrors etc with which PTTL sucks)
* poeple closing their eyes due to the early metering flash from PTTL.

This feature will of course work as well with older camera (Z/PZ, MZ,
SF, *ist, DSLRs etc.)
It also feature HSS, wireless etc... of crouse.
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Re: Pentax K28mm 3.5 shift

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "John Francis"
Subject: Re: Pentax K28mm 3.5 shift



>>
>> With a perspective shift lens you're using a larger-image-circle lens
>> and those generally (though not always) have lower resolution than
>> standard 35mm lenses. And by using the shift capability you are, by
>> definition, using more of the edge of the image circle, which is
>> virtually always lower resolution than the center.
>
> While that's true for a normal lens, it isn't necessarily so for a
> shift lens - it gets the increased image circle by means of the shift.

U, no.
Without the larger image circle available, the shifting can not happen.
The 28/3.5 allows for 11mm of shift.
Presuming this is 11mm off each axis, it has to have 74mm of good image circle 
to to this, 63mm 
if the lens only shifts horizontally (I don't know if it has vertical shift).
Contrast this to a lens that only needs to cover the 35mm frame at 43mm of good 
image circle.

William Robb 


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Re: Pentax K28mm 3.5 shift

[John Francis]

On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 07:03:29PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote:
> John Francis wrote:
> > On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 08:23:22PM -0700, Bob Blakely wrote:
> >> To do perspective correction in photoshop or any other imaging software, 
> >> you 
> >> must loose pixels, synthisize pixels or both. Shift is still the way for 
> >> digital purists.
> > 
> > That's possibly true (but watch out for those loose pixels :-)
> > But unless you're printing on a device with native resolution that
> > exactly matches your original image, you're going to end up with
> > lost and/or synthesized pixels, anyway.
> 
> With a perspective shift lens you're using a larger-image-circle lens 
> and those generally (though not always) have lower resolution than 
> standard 35mm lenses. And by using the shift capability you are, by 
> definition, using more of the edge of the image circle, which is 
> virtually always lower resolution than the center.

While that's true for a normal lens, it isn't necessarily so for a
shift lens - it gets the increased image circle by means of the shift.

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Re: View from Navy Pier Crop Redo & Thanks

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Christine Aguila" 
Subject: Re: View from Navy Pier Crop Redo & Thanks

>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7278480
> 
>

Yup, that works better.

William Robb

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Re: wanted - smartmedia cards

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "James"
Subject: Re: wanted - smartmedia cards


> On Sun, 18 May 2008 22:04:49 -0400, Scott Loveless wrote:
>
> Them's swear words.
> I am going to have to see your mother and get her to have your mouth 
> thoroughly washed out 
> with sensor cleaning solution.

Don't be too hard on the boy. Lots of us have webcams.

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Re: Can anyone identify this pun?

[James]

On Sun, 18 May 2008 23:00:18 -0400, Christian wrote:

>Bob W wrote:

>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> 

>I'm not sure which one it is... I'm kinda torn...

I think has been casting his net-fishing for a responce.

James



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Re: PESO: Beer Monocle

[David Savage]

Mmmm... while it is a bit icky, I liked it because it told a story. Of sorts.

I also think I chose a bad title. Something like "Aftermath" would
have been better :-)

Cheers,


Dave


2008/5/19 Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 'Twould be better without that disgusting plate of
> second-hand food on the right.
>
> Rick
>
> --- David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> G'day All,
>>
>> Went on a wine & brewery bus tour yesterday & took
>> this at lunch (~133kb):
>>
>>
> 
>> 
>>
>> K20D, DA 10-17mm f3.5-4.5 @ 10mm, 1/60 @ f6.3, ISO
>> 400, remains of my
>> pale ale & "dam & turf"
>>
>> Should be a view familiar to those who regularly
>> raise the wrist.
>>
>> Any & all comments welcome.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Dave

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Re: Enablement test

[P. J. Alling]

Shush, it's a FA if he really believes it is...

Boris Liberman wrote:
> Drew, it is F 70-210, not FA 70-210.
>
> ;-)
>
> Boris
>
> drew wrote:
>   
>> William Robb wrote:
>> 
>>> - Original Message - 
>>>   
 http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/rileyelf/18052008PentaxIstDLWithFA70210

 Comments welcome.

 
>>> All very nice pictures.
>>> The one of the bridge is a little crispy looking, I'm thinking just a tad 
>>> oversharpened.
>>>
>>> William Robb
>>>
>>>   
>> Thanks William,
>> It does look a bit harsh... I used Picasa which is a bit of a blunt 
>> instrument at times... it has a button marked 'Sharpen', you press it 
>> and it sharpens ;-) no choice of how much.
>> Cheers,
>> Drew.
>>
>> 
>
>
>   


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Re: Out of Order

[Cory Waters]

Scott,
Don't try to poo poo Ken's comment.

CW
I like the picture very much.


Scott Loveless wrote:
> Ken Waller wrote:
>   
>> Very, very nice, although it's kind of a crappy subject.
>> 
>
> Cut that shit out, Ken.
>
>   
>> Kenneth Waller
>> http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "wendy beard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: PESO: Out of Order
>>
>>
>> 
>>> I have a new toy :-)
>>> It makes even subjects like this look interesting
>>>
>>> http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/97290120
>>>
>>> Wendy
>>>
>>> ( it's a G6 converted for IR)
>>>   
>> 
>
>
>   
> 
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG. 
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Re: Can anyone identify this pun?

[Stan Halpin]

The shot is of a woman on stairs (or a ladder?), the woman has a  
ladder in her stockings. Is that what you are looking for?

stan

On May 18, 2008, at 5:17 PM, Bob W wrote:

>
> http://www.web-options.com/Stepladder.jpg
>
> Bob
>
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Re: Out of Order

[Scott Loveless]

Ken Waller wrote:
> Very, very nice, although it's kind of a crappy subject.

Cut that shit out, Ken.

> 
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "wendy beard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: PESO: Out of Order
> 
> 
>> I have a new toy :-)
>> It makes even subjects like this look interesting
>>
>> http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/97290120
>>
>> Wendy
>>
>> ( it's a G6 converted for IR)
> 
> 


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Re: View from Navy Pier Crop Redo & Thanks

[Ken Waller]

Much better !

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: "Christine Aguila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: View from Navy Pier Crop Redo & Thanks


> From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> K10D, DA* 50-135mm, 90mm, 1/640 @ 7.1, ISO 200
>>> Small
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7277391
>
>> Leave it square but crop it. The foreground is a mess, you can lose it 
>> and
>> not be losing
>> anything you want, the high rise on the left side is a distraction, and
>> even the tree on the
>> right isn't really needed.
>> I think this shot would have been better had you used the lens at 135mm
>> rather than 90mm.
>>
>> With that in mind, I see a really nice picture in there.
>>
>> William Robb
>
>
>
> Hi William, Ken, Bob, Derby, Jack, Paul, & Dave:
> Big thanks for looking at this pic.  William, I took your suggestion and 
> did
> a crop redo--funny thing about the 90mm--I actually thought I had it on
> 135mm, but as I found out later, Lightroom said otherwise. I agree about 
> the
> focal length.  As to the crop, well, I kind of like both, but I thought 
> I'd
> show everyone what a recrop looks like.  Thanks again.  Much appreciated.
>
> Small
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7278480
>
> Cheers Christine


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Re: Out of Order

[Ken Waller]

Very, very nice, although it's kind of a crappy subject.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: "wendy beard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PESO: Out of Order


>I have a new toy :-)
> It makes even subjects like this look interesting
> 
> http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/97290120
> 
> Wendy
> 
> ( it's a G6 converted for IR)


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Re: Enablement test

[Boris Liberman]

Drew, it is F 70-210, not FA 70-210.

;-)

Boris

drew wrote:
> William Robb wrote:
>> - Original Message - 
> 
>>> http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/rileyelf/18052008PentaxIstDLWithFA70210
>>>
>>> Comments welcome.
>>>
>> All very nice pictures.
>> The one of the bridge is a little crispy looking, I'm thinking just a tad 
>> oversharpened.
>>
>> William Robb
>>
> 
> Thanks William,
> It does look a bit harsh... I used Picasa which is a bit of a blunt 
> instrument at times... it has a button marked 'Sharpen', you press it 
> and it sharpens ;-) no choice of how much.
> Cheers,
> Drew.
> 


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Re: OT PESOs: street shots

[Christine Aguila]

Hey those are great.  Thanks for posting this.  Cheers, Christine

- Original Message - 
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Subject: Re: OT PESOs: street shots


>
> Enjoy I did. He has some elegant work there. Only I wish the full size
> pics were larger. Thanks for the pointer, Bob.
>
> D
>
>
>
> Bob W wrote:
>> that photo taken with the Summar is lovely - it has a real pre-war
>> feel to it, as you say. If you like that kind of look you might enjoy
>> the photos of James Ravilious.
>>
>> http://www.jamesravilious.com/
>>
>> He used pre-war Leicas exclusively.
>>
>> Cheque Magnet is quite witty. I like a well-turned ankle.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>> Behalf Of Derby Chang
>>> Sent: 11 May 2008 12:34
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>> Subject: OT PESOs: street shots
>>>
>>>
>>> Comments welcome, and will be ingested silently
>>>
>>>
>>> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_05/08_05_summar/01.htm
>>> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_05/08_05_chequemagnet/01.htm
>>> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_05/08_05_wisteria/01.htm
>>>
>>> Did I mention I'm rather fond of the R-D1?
>>>
>>> D
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: View from Navy Pier Crop Redo & Thanks

[Christine Aguila]

From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> K10D, DA* 50-135mm, 90mm, 1/640 @ 7.1, ISO 200
>> Small
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7277391

> Leave it square but crop it. The foreground is a mess, you can lose it and 
> not be losing
> anything you want, the high rise on the left side is a distraction, and 
> even the tree on the
> right isn't really needed.
> I think this shot would have been better had you used the lens at 135mm 
> rather than 90mm.
>
> With that in mind, I see a really nice picture in there.
>
> William Robb



Hi William, Ken, Bob, Derby, Jack, Paul, & Dave:
Big thanks for looking at this pic.  William, I took your suggestion and did 
a crop redo--funny thing about the 90mm--I actually thought I had it on 
135mm, but as I found out later, Lightroom said otherwise. I agree about the 
focal length.  As to the crop, well, I kind of like both, but I thought I'd 
show everyone what a recrop looks like.  Thanks again.  Much appreciated.

Small
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7278480

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Re: PESO: Aero

[John Francis]

 ... and is the book title "Auto Parts" or "Auto Prts" ?
The page heading and the image caption seem to disagree.

On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 07:26:40PM -0700, Rick Womer wrote:
> Nice! Uhhh... what is it?
> 
> Rick
> 
> --- Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > This has long been a favorite shot of mine; it's
> > just so minimalistic!
> >
> http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7d503417.htm
> > 
> > It came back to mind when I was assembling the "Auto
> > Parts" book last week.
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Re: Out of Order

[Christine Aguila]

Wendy:  That is lovely.  Really beautiful!  Cheers, Christine


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> It makes even subjects like this look interesting
>
> http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/97290120
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> Wendy
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Re: GESO: Glass blower

[Bob Sullivan]

Thanks Rick,
I know I have some editing to do.
The piece went into a cooling box and will get some finishing touches.
The buyer promised me some pictures next weekend when he picks it up.
He also has some Point-n-Shoot images from the first steps.
He forgot his real camera and was very pleased for the pictures.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nice, Bob.  You could edit out about 2/3 of them,
> though, because there are often several pix showing
> the same step.  I was also hoping for a clean shot of
> the finished product.
>
> Rick
>
> --- Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> Here's a series I took yesterday at Lotton Glass's
>> open house.
>>
>> http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/LottonGlass
>>
>> Sorry it's so long.
>> It tracks a vase from (close to) start to finish.
>> It materializes before your eyes.
>>
>> I'm too close to it now to give it a critical
>> review.
>> Let me know what you think.
>>
>> Regards,  Bob S.
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Re: Can anyone identify this pun?

[Christian]

Bob W wrote:
> http://www.web-options.com/Stepladder.jpg
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> Bob
> 
> 

I'm not sure which one it is... I'm kinda torn...

Christian

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PESO: Out of Order

[wendy beard]

I have a new toy :-)
It makes even subjects like this look interesting

http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/97290120

Wendy

( it's a G6 converted for IR)

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Re: wanted - smartmedia cards

[Scott Loveless]

James wrote:
> On Sun, 18 May 2008 22:04:49 -0400, Scott Loveless wrote:
> 
> Them's swear words. I am going to have to see your mother and get her
> to have your mouth thoroughly washed out with sensor cleaning
> solution.
> 
> James ;-)
> 
> 
>> 1.3 megapixel Fuji, SmartMedia cards
> 
Under any other circumstances I would agree.  However, the Megan is 5,
the camera is at least 7 years old, has been to Hawaii and back twice, 
and it still works.  Plus, we spent about $100 on it.  So if she drops 
it into a mud puddle the first time she uses I won't be upset.


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Re: wanted - smartmedia cards

[James]

On Sun, 18 May 2008 22:04:49 -0400, Scott Loveless wrote:

Them's swear words.
I am going to have to see your mother and get her to have your mouth thoroughly 
washed out with sensor cleaning solution.

James ;-)


>1.3 megapixel Fuji, 
> SmartMedia cards 




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Re: PESO: Beer Monocle

[Rick Womer]

'Twould be better without that disgusting plate of
second-hand food on the right.

Rick

--- David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> G'day All,
> 
> Went on a wine & brewery bus tour yesterday & took
> this at lunch (~133kb):
> 
>

> 
> 
> K20D, DA 10-17mm f3.5-4.5 @ 10mm, 1/60 @ f6.3, ISO
> 400, remains of my
> pale ale & "dam & turf"
> 
> Should be a view familiar to those who regularly
> raise the wrist.
> 
> Any & all comments welcome.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dave
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Re: PESO: Aero

[Rick Womer]

Nice! Uhhh... what is it?

Rick

--- Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This has long been a favorite shot of mine; it's
> just so minimalistic!
>
http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7d503417.htm
> 
> It came back to mind when I was assembling the "Auto
> Parts" book last week.
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wanted - smartmedia cards

[Scott Loveless]

Hey, gang!

Our very first digital camera, a 1.3 megapixel Fuji, which we loaned out 
a few years ago, came back to us today.  We're going to give it to the 
Megan.  Unfortunately, the thing takes SmartMedia cards and we only have 
one.  Anybody have one or two they can part with?

Thanks!

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Re: PESO: View from Navy Pier

[Paul Stenquist]

Good one. Nice conversion as well. Worth the trip and the tripod lug:-).
Paul
On May 18, 2008, at 5:21 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

> This is all I could salvage from a really bad shoot yesterday--to make
> things worse, I'm so sore from lugging a heavy kit bag & a tripod  
> that feels
> as if it has the weight of an anvil.  I just couldn't get into the  
> groove
> yesterday.  Still . . .
>
>
> K10D, DA* 50-135mm, 90mm, 1/640 @ 7.1, ISO 200
>
> Small
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7277391
> Larger
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>
> Comments/critique welcome.
>
> Sore in Chicago,
> Christine
>
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Re: depressed

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On May 18, 2008, at 5:50 PM, William Robb wrote:

>
> - Original Message -
> From: "David J Brooks"
> Subject: Re: depressed
>
>
>> Don't feel to bad Steve. I still use a D1H as my mane work horse  
>> camera.
>>
>> Such arcaich technology. I;'m embarr ased
>>
>
> They are very stable, no?
> William Robb
>
Only if you keep them reined in.

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Re: PESO: Lilac

[Paul Stenquist]

Hi Dave. Four to five days? Then  you have something to look forward  
to. Although I've always thought that up here north of Detroit in  
Bloomfield Hills, we were pretty much on a par with Toronto weather.  
Perhaps not.
Paul
On May 18, 2008, at 5:48 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

> Nice.
>
> Like Dave, I like the placenemt of the greenery.
>
> Our lilacs are about 4-5 days behing yours Paul
>
> Dave
>
> On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Paul Stenquist  
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> A hybrid lilac in my garden:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7273191&size=lg
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Re: GESO: Glass blower

[Rick Womer]

Nice, Bob.  You could edit out about 2/3 of them,
though, because there are often several pix showing
the same step.  I was also hoping for a clean shot of
the finished product.

Rick

--- Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Here's a series I took yesterday at Lotton Glass's
> open house.
> 
> http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/LottonGlass
> 
> Sorry it's so long.
> It tracks a vase from (close to) start to finish.
> It materializes before your eyes.
> 
> I'm too close to it now to give it a critical
> review.
> Let me know what you think.
> 
> Regards,  Bob S.
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Re: PESO - can anybody identify this flower?

[P. J. Alling]

I'm getting errors trying to connect to the server.

John Francis wrote:
> I've been shooting a few flowers in the neighbourhood:
>
> http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW0820&style=1
> http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW0821&style=1
> http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW0822&style=1
>
> The first two are easy to identify, but I don't know what
> the third one is.  Can anybody help me out?
>
>
> P.S.  I've got some gosling pictures, too, but I promise
> not to post them if somebody identifies the flower.
>
>
>   


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Re: depressed

[Rick Womer]

It's only your mane camera because you shoot horses.  

(If you shot horses in New England, would it be your
mane camera or your Maine camera?)

Rick

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Re: PESO - can anybody identify this flower?

[John Francis]

Thanks, guys.  I'll change the image text to show the name.

BTW - if anyone ends up with only a blank page (and with
"View Source" showing an iframe pointing to some website
in India) I'm sorry about that - I'm working with my site
hoster to find out just where the host machine got hacked.
Fortunately it appears that the hacker wasn't quite good
enough - it doesn't appear as though the hack compromises
the security of anyone viewing the page.


On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 08:01:05PM -0400, ann sanfedele wrote:
> Columbine is the flower in the third photos.  One of my favorites.
> But you can show a gosling if you like :)
> 
> ann
> 
> 
> John Francis wrote:
> 
> >I've been shooting a few flowers in the neighbourhood:
> >
> >http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW0820&style=1
> >http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW0821&style=1
> >http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW0822&style=1
> >
> >The first two are easy to identify, but I don't know what
> >the third one is.  Can anybody help me out?
> >
> >
> >P.S.  I've got some gosling pictures, too, but I promise
> >not to post them if somebody identifies the flower.
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
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Re: PESO - can anybody identify this flower?

[ann sanfedele]

Columbine is the flower in the third photos.  One of my favorites.
But you can show a gosling if you like :)

ann


John Francis wrote:

>I've been shooting a few flowers in the neighbourhood:
>
>http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW0820&style=1
>http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW0821&style=1
>http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW0822&style=1
>
>The first two are easy to identify, but I don't know what
>the third one is.  Can anybody help me out?
>
>
>P.S.  I've got some gosling pictures, too, but I promise
>not to post them if somebody identifies the flower.
>
>
>  
>



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Re: PESO - can anybody identify this flower?

[Geoffrey Margo]

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I've been shooting a few flowers in the neighbourhood:

 http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW0820&style=1
 http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW0821&style=1
 http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW0822&style=1

The first two are easy to identify, but I don't know what
the third one is.  Can anybody help me out?

P.S.  I've got some gosling pictures, too, but I promise
not to post them if somebody identifies the flower.


It is a variety of columbine.
Geof



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PESO: Aero

[Mark Roberts]

This has long been a favorite shot of mine; it's just so minimalistic!
http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7d503417.htm

It came back to mind when I was assembling the "Auto Parts" book last week.


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Re: View from Navy Pier

[Bob Sullivan]

Christine,

Nice shot and I think Bill's crop would help.
Carrying a big bag is becoming less and less desirable for me.
It really hurts shooting.

We did the architectural boat tour on the river Friday.
I only used the DA16-45/4 and I'm happy with the results.
Amazing actually.

Regards,  Bob S.


On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 5:51 PM, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Christine Aguila"
> Subject: PESO: View from Navy Pier
>
>
>> This is all I could salvage from a really bad shoot yesterday--to make
>> things worse, I'm so sore from lugging a heavy kit bag & a tripod that feels
>> as if it has the weight of an anvil.  I just couldn't get into the groove
>> yesterday.  Still . . .
>>
>>
>> K10D, DA* 50-135mm, 90mm, 1/640 @ 7.1, ISO 200
>>
>> Small
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7277391
>> Larger
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7277391&size=lg
>>
>
> Leave it square but crop it. The foreground is a mess, you can lose it and 
> not be losing
> anything you want, the high rise on the left side is a distraction, and even 
> the tree on the
> right isn't really needed.
> I think this shot would have been better had you used the lens at 135mm 
> rather than 90mm.
>
> With that in mind, I see a really nice picture in there.
>
> William Robb
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Re: Pentax K28mm 3.5 shift

[Mark Roberts]

John Francis wrote:
> On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 08:23:22PM -0700, Bob Blakely wrote:
>> To do perspective correction in photoshop or any other imaging software, you 
>> must loose pixels, synthisize pixels or both. Shift is still the way for 
>> digital purists.
> 
> That's possibly true (but watch out for those loose pixels :-)
> But unless you're printing on a device with native resolution that
> exactly matches your original image, you're going to end up with
> lost and/or synthesized pixels, anyway.

With a perspective shift lens you're using a larger-image-circle lens 
and those generally (though not always) have lower resolution than 
standard 35mm lenses. And by using the shift capability you are, by 
definition, using more of the edge of the image circle, which is 
virtually always lower resolution than the center.

This is all hypothetical, though: I've long wanted to do a side-by-side 
test of the 28mm shift lens compared to the 31mm Limited, correcting the 
perspective distortion in Photoshop for the 31 Ltd. It would be 
interesting to see what differences, if any, showed up in large prints. 
Anyone got a 28mm Shift to bring to GFM? :)

> Never let the pursuit of purity stand between you and a good image.

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Re: GESO: Glass blower

[Bob Sullivan]

Thanks Dave and Christine for checking.
Dave, glass blowing looks very interesting.
This guy was originally a hairdresser with a shop employing 17.
He sold some glass objects in the shop and got into it.
Now he has 2 sons doing it and a grandson.
The pieces are facinating and pricey.  Here's a link.

http://www.lottonglass.com/

Regards,  Bob S.


On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 4:40 PM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bob.
>
> Great set of photos.
>
> This brings back some good memories.,
>
> I visited a park, i forget the name, in Sweden in 1976, and they had
> glass blowers working as they would have 2-300 years ago,
>
> I was so intriged, i went and watched them every day for two weeks,
>
> I found a College in Mississauga that had, and i think still does
> have, a night class in glass blowing.
>
> I took the glass, and it was the most fun i had over a 10 week period
> i have ever had.
>
> I still have all 10 pieces i made.
>
> Thanks again Bob
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Here's a series I took yesterday at Lotton Glass's open house.
>>
>> http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/LottonGlass
>>
>> Sorry it's so long.
>> It tracks a vase from (close to) start to finish.
>> It materializes before your eyes.
>>
>> I'm too close to it now to give it a critical review.
>> Let me know what you think.
>>
>> Regards,  Bob S.
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Re: View from Navy Pier

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Christine Aguila"
Subject: PESO: View from Navy Pier


> This is all I could salvage from a really bad shoot yesterday--to make
> things worse, I'm so sore from lugging a heavy kit bag & a tripod that feels
> as if it has the weight of an anvil.  I just couldn't get into the groove
> yesterday.  Still . . .
>
>
> K10D, DA* 50-135mm, 90mm, 1/640 @ 7.1, ISO 200
>
> Small
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7277391
> Larger
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7277391&size=lg
>

Leave it square but crop it. The foreground is a mess, you can lose it and not 
be losing 
anything you want, the high rise on the left side is a distraction, and even 
the tree on the 
right isn't really needed.
I think this shot would have been better had you used the lens at 135mm rather 
than 90mm.

With that in mind, I see a really nice picture in there.

William Robb 


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Re: depressed

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Bob W" 
Subject: RE: depressed


>> > 
>> >> Don't feel to bad Steve. I still use a D1H as my mane work 
>> horse camera.
>> >> 
>> >> Such arcaich technology. I;'m embarr ased
>> >> 
>> > 
>> > They are very stable, no?
>> 
>> Ah come on guys, quit horsing around.
>> 
> 
> they've got the bit between their teeth now. Don't try to rein them in
> - it'll only stirrup trouble and lead to whoa. Eventually they'll take
> another tack.

Apparently Bob wants to saddle the list with another pun thread.

William Robb

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Re: depressed

[Christine Aguila]

- Original Message - 
From: "Ken Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> - Original Message - 
> From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
>> From: "David J Brooks"
>> Subject: Re: depressed
>>
>>
>>> Don't feel to bad Steve. I still use a D1H as my mane work horse camera.
>>>
>>> Such arcaich technology. I;'m embarr ased
>>>
>>
>> They are very stable, no?
>
> Ah come on guys, quit horsing around.

Oh, my gosh.  Let's rein this in before it goes any further. 



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RE: depressed

[Bob W]

> > 
> >> Don't feel to bad Steve. I still use a D1H as my mane work 
> horse camera.
> >> 
> >> Such arcaich technology. I;'m embarr ased
> >> 
> > 
> > They are very stable, no?
> 
> Ah come on guys, quit horsing around.
> 

they've got the bit between their teeth now. Don't try to rein them in
- it'll only stirrup trouble and lead to whoa. Eventually they'll take
another tack.





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Re: View from Navy Pier

[Ken Waller]

In general, I like the image & color palette chosen, but I' like it more 
without the foreground.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: "Christine Aguila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PESO: View from Navy Pier


> This is all I could salvage from a really bad shoot yesterday--to make
> things worse, I'm so sore from lugging a heavy kit bag & a tripod that 
> feels
> as if it has the weight of an anvil.  I just couldn't get into the groove
> yesterday.  Still . . .
>
>
> K10D, DA* 50-135mm, 90mm, 1/640 @ 7.1, ISO 200
>
> Small
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7277391
> Larger
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7277391&size=lg


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Re: depressed

[Ken Waller]

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From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: depressed


> From: "David J Brooks" 
> Subject: Re: depressed
> 
> 
>> Don't feel to bad Steve. I still use a D1H as my mane work horse camera.
>> 
>> Such arcaich technology. I;'m embarr ased
>> 
> 
> They are very stable, no?

Ah come on guys, quit horsing around.

Kenneth Waller
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Re: Can anyone identify this pun?

[Christine Aguila]

a hole in one?

Christine

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>
> http://www.web-options.com/Stepladder.jpg
>
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Re: OT PESOs: street shots

[Derby Chang]

Enjoy I did. He has some elegant work there. Only I wish the full size 
pics were larger. Thanks for the pointer, Bob.

D



Bob W wrote:
> that photo taken with the Summar is lovely - it has a real pre-war
> feel to it, as you say. If you like that kind of look you might enjoy
> the photos of James Ravilious.
>
> http://www.jamesravilious.com/
>
> He used pre-war Leicas exclusively.
>
> Cheque Magnet is quite witty. I like a well-turned ankle.
>
> Bob
>
>   
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
>> Behalf Of Derby Chang
>> Sent: 11 May 2008 12:34
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>> Subject: OT PESOs: street shots
>>
>>
>> Comments welcome, and will be ingested silently
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>>
>> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_05/08_05_summar/01.htm
>> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_05/08_05_chequemagnet/01.htm
>> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_05/08_05_wisteria/01.htm
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>> Did I mention I'm rather fond of the R-D1?
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Can anyone identify this pun?

[Bob W]

http://www.web-options.com/Stepladder.jpg

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Re: wHICH fLASH UNIT FOR K10D OR K20D

[sky]

are you sure about the Metz 58 af 1.
I looked at the web site and it has a GN of 58 @ 105mm
Not sure what it would be at 85mm but it would be more then 42.
Tho I would say the pentax is more powerfull but not a great deal more.

James

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> The Metz 58-1 costs appr. 40 USD less than the AF 540FGZ , but less
> powerfull (only GN 42). In Germany the Metz is 280 Euro, the Pentax is 320
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Re: PESO - can anybody identify this flower?

[Jack Davis]

I didn't check to see if anyone else answered your question, but it looks 
exactly like a California version of a Columbine.
All nice shots!

Jack


--- On Sun, 5/18/08, John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: PESO - can anybody identify this flower?
> To: "Pentax List" 
> Date: Sunday, May 18, 2008, 2:46 PM
> I've been shooting a few flowers in the neighbourhood:
> 
>
> http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW0820&style=1
>
> http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW0821&style=1
>
> http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW0822&style=1
> 
> The first two are easy to identify, but I don't know
> what
> the third one is.  Can anybody help me out?
> 
> 
> P.S.  I've got some gosling pictures, too, but I
> promise
> not to post them if somebody identifies the flower.
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Re: PESO: View from Navy Pier

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I think you took good advantage of the location. Nice elements well composed.

Jack


--- On Sun, 5/18/08, Christine Aguila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Christine Aguila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: PESO:  View from Navy Pier
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Date: Sunday, May 18, 2008, 2:21 PM
> This is all I could salvage from a really bad shoot
> yesterday--to make 
> things worse, I'm so sore from lugging a heavy kit bag
> & a tripod that feels 
> as if it has the weight of an anvil.  I just couldn't
> get into the groove 
> yesterday.  Still . . .
> 
> 
> K10D, DA* 50-135mm, 90mm, 1/640 @ 7.1, ISO 200
> 
> Small
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7277391
> Larger
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7277391&size=lg
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> Comments/critique welcome.
> 
> Sore in Chicago,
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Re: GESO: Enablement test

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Appears you got a good copy of the lens. Good performance all around, Drew.

Jack


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> From: drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: GESO: Enablement test
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Sunday, May 18, 2008, 1:07 PM
> I have recently been enabled with an FA 70-210 courtesy of
> another 
> member, got out today and had a play...
> 
> http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/rileyelf/18052008PentaxIstDLWithFA70210
> 
> Comments welcome.
> 
> Drew.
> P.S. I apologise in advance for the gratuitous use of small
> fluffy 
> birds, I know they have been done to death recently, but I
> couldn't 
> resist :-)
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Re: PESO: View from Navy Pier

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Christine Aguila wrote:
> This is all I could salvage from a really bad shoot yesterday--to make 
> things worse, I'm so sore from lugging a heavy kit bag & a tripod that feels 
> as if it has the weight of an anvil.  I just couldn't get into the groove 
> yesterday.  Still . . .
>
>
> K10D, DA* 50-135mm, 90mm, 1/640 @ 7.1, ISO 200
>
> Small
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7277391
> Larger
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7277391&size=lg
>
> Comments/critique welcome.
>
> Sore in Chicago,
> Christine 
>
>
>
>   

Love the formality of the square format, the lyrical aerial perspective, 
and the jagged little teeth at the bottom.

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Re: PESO - another one for Annsan

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Only Frank and Mark can go that slow.

Dave

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Re: depressed

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> Don't feel to bad Steve. I still use a D1H as my mane work horse camera.
> 
> Such arcaich technology. I;'m embarr ased
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They are very stable, no?

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Re: PESO: View from Navy Pier

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I like it. I dbated about the stuff in the fore ground, but i think it
should stay for scale and what not.

Dave

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> This is all I could salvage from a really bad shoot yesterday--to make
> things worse, I'm so sore from lugging a heavy kit bag & a tripod that feels
> as if it has the weight of an anvil.  I just couldn't get into the groove
> yesterday.  Still . . .
>
>
> K10D, DA* 50-135mm, 90mm, 1/640 @ 7.1, ISO 200
>
> Small
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7277391
> Larger
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7277391&size=lg
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> Sore in Chicago,
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Re: PESO - can anybody identify this flower?

[David J Brooks]

Its a Cottylisush

Found only near pubs and Land rovers.

Now post those birds.:-)

Dave

On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 5:46 PM, John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> I've been shooting a few flowers in the neighbourhood:
>
>http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW0820&style=1
>http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW0821&style=1
>http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW0822&style=1
>
> The first two are easy to identify, but I don't know what
> the third one is.  Can anybody help me out?
>
>
> P.S.  I've got some gosling pictures, too, but I promise
> not to post them if somebody identifies the flower.
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Re: PESO: Lilac

[David J Brooks]

Nice.

Like Dave, I like the placenemt of the greenery.

Our lilacs are about 4-5 days behing yours Paul

Dave

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PESO - can anybody identify this flower?

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I've been shooting a few flowers in the neighbourhood:

http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW0820&style=1
http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW0821&style=1
http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW0822&style=1

The first two are easy to identify, but I don't know what
the third one is.  Can anybody help me out?


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Re: depressed

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Don't feel to bad Steve. I still use a D1H as my mane work horse camera.

Such arcaich technology. I;'m embarr ased


Dave

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> hi folks, sorry if i missed some posts, my c drive croaked. the wife didn't
> like the way the ist d felt, so i lost
> the battle. she is now a new n***n d40 user. i tried eveything. I thank you
> all again for your help.
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Re: GESO: Glass blower

[David J Brooks]

Bob.

Great set of photos.

This brings back some good memories.,

I visited a park, i forget the name, in Sweden in 1976, and they had
glass blowers working as they would have 2-300 years ago,

I was so intriged, i went and watched them every day for two weeks,

I found a College in Mississauga that had, and i think still does
have, a night class in glass blowing.

I took the glass, and it was the most fun i had over a 10 week period
i have ever had.

I still have all 10 pieces i made.

Thanks again Bob

Dave



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> Here's a series I took yesterday at Lotton Glass's open house.
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/LottonGlass
>
> Sorry it's so long.
> It tracks a vase from (close to) start to finish.
> It materializes before your eyes.
>
> I'm too close to it now to give it a critical review.
> Let me know what you think.
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> Regards,  Bob S.
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Re: Glass blower

[Christine Aguila]

Bob:  These look fascinating.  I'm going to take some more time to go 
through them to pick favs.  Will get back to you.  Cheers, Christine


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> Here's a series I took yesterday at Lotton Glass's open house.
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/LottonGlass
>
> Sorry it's so long.
> It tracks a vase from (close to) start to finish.
> It materializes before your eyes.
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> I'm too close to it now to give it a critical review.
> Let me know what you think.
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> Regards,  Bob S.
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Re: Enablement test

[Christine Aguila]

Drew:  My fav is the bridge shot & I agree with William about the over 
sharpening.  Still, I like it.  Congrats on the new lens.  Cheers, Christine


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>I have recently been enabled with an FA 70-210 courtesy of another
> member, got out today and had a play...
>
> http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/rileyelf/18052008PentaxIstDLWithFA70210
>
> Comments welcome.
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> P.S. I apologise in advance for the gratuitous use of small fluffy
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PESO: View from Navy Pier

[Christine Aguila]

This is all I could salvage from a really bad shoot yesterday--to make 
things worse, I'm so sore from lugging a heavy kit bag & a tripod that feels 
as if it has the weight of an anvil.  I just couldn't get into the groove 
yesterday.  Still . . .


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Small
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7277391
Larger
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Re: Enablement test

[drew]

William Robb wrote:
> - Original Message - 

>>
>> http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/rileyelf/18052008PentaxIstDLWithFA70210
>>
>> Comments welcome.
>>
> 
> All very nice pictures.
> The one of the bridge is a little crispy looking, I'm thinking just a tad 
> oversharpened.
> 
> William Robb
> 

Thanks William,
It does look a bit harsh... I used Picasa which is a bit of a blunt 
instrument at times... it has a button marked 'Sharpen', you press it 
and it sharpens ;-) no choice of how much.
Cheers,
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Re: Dust Alert Question

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Stenquist" 
Subject: Re: Dust Alert Question


> Hi Bill,
> I fooled with my camera a bit. I couldn't get the menu item to grey  
> out. I did have one spec of dust on the sensor, and after a couple of  
> tries with my hand blower, I got it out of there. Perfectly clean,  
> but the menu item still appears. I tried without a card in the  
> camera. Still get the menu item. I didn't try it without a lens. That  
> option just occurred to me. But I assume you have a lens on the  
> camera. Are your batteries full up? Can't think of anything else.

The camera has to be in an Af mode for the function to work.
Go figure.

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Re: Enablement test

[William Robb]

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Subject: GESO: Enablement test


>I have recently been enabled with an FA 70-210 courtesy of another 
> member, got out today and had a play...
> 
> http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/rileyelf/18052008PentaxIstDLWithFA70210
> 
> Comments welcome.
> 

All very nice pictures.
The one of the bridge is a little crispy looking, I'm thinking just a tad 
oversharpened.

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Re: depressed

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On May 18, 2008, at 9:13 AM, William Robb wrote:

>> No need to be depressed, Nikon make good stuff.
>>
>> I had the chance to use a D300 yesterday Damn fine piece of  
>> equipment.
>
> You could take a D300 and beat a K20 to death with it, and then use  
> the D300 to take pictures of
> the kill.
> Pentax really needs to make a body in it's class.
> It would be nice to have a body that matches the quality of the  
> lenses.

I agree.

Godfrey

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GESO: Enablement test

[drew]

I have recently been enabled with an FA 70-210 courtesy of another 
member, got out today and had a play...

http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/rileyelf/18052008PentaxIstDLWithFA70210

Comments welcome.

Drew.
P.S. I apologise in advance for the gratuitous use of small fluffy 
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Re: Lilac

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Thanks Christine.
On May 18, 2008, at 12:25 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

> Very pretty, Paul.  I can smell it from here.  Cheers, Christine
>
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GESO: Glass blower

[Bob Sullivan]

Here's a series I took yesterday at Lotton Glass's open house.

http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/LottonGlass

Sorry it's so long.
It tracks a vase from (close to) start to finish.
It materializes before your eyes.

I'm too close to it now to give it a critical review.
Let me know what you think.

Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: depressed

[Rick Womer]

Mark!!!

--- William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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Re: PESO - another one for Annsan

[Jack Davis]

HEAR..HEAR!!!  Well said, Peter.

Jack


--- On Sun, 5/18/08, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: PESO - another one for Annsan
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Sunday, May 18, 2008, 10:02 AM
> Because it would no longer comply with the law, and as you
> know all laws 
> must be obeyed, good bad or indifferent...
> 
> David Savage wrote:
> > Why wouldn't you just round it down to 7 to avoid
> any confusion?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > 2008/5/19 P. J. Alling
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >   
> >> That point is very hard to see...
> >>
> >> John Francis wrote:
> >> 
> >>>
> http://panix.com/~johnf/temp/SpeedLimit.jpg
> >>>   
> >
> >   
> 
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Re: OT: dog, cat and rat

[P. J. Alling]

Who would have thought Ghostbusters would have so many usable quotes...

P. J. Alling wrote:
>> This city is headed for a disaster of biblical proportions. . . . dogs 
>> and cats living together... mass hysteria! 
>> 
> Dr. Peter Venkman...
>
>
> Toine wrote:
>   
>> and maybe a flea:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D85yrIgA4Nk
>>
>>   
>> 
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Re: PESO - another one for Annsan

[P. J. Alling]

Because it would no longer comply with the law, and as you know all laws 
must be obeyed, good bad or indifferent...

David Savage wrote:
> Why wouldn't you just round it down to 7 to avoid any confusion?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
>
> 2008/5/19 P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>   
>> That point is very hard to see...
>>
>> John Francis wrote:
>> 
>>> http://panix.com/~johnf/temp/SpeedLimit.jpg
>>>   
>
>   


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Re: PESO - another one for Annsan

[David Savage]

Why wouldn't you just round it down to 7 to avoid any confusion?

Cheers,

Dave

2008/5/19 P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> That point is very hard to see...
>
> John Francis wrote:
>> http://panix.com/~johnf/temp/SpeedLimit.jpg

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Re: wHICH fLASH UNIT FOR K10D OR K20D

[P. J. Alling]

It depends on what you want to do with it surely.  As long as it has a 
low enough trigger voltage, (and IIRC the K10 and K20 both have built in 
voltage limiters).  So most any flash will be right and work with them.  
If you want full automation that's a different question.  (Just being a 
wise ass, move along now).

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> Which flash unit should I get for my K10D which will also be right for a
> K20D? I never realy started getting unists for other than TTL, which
> doesn't work with the new Pentax models.
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Re: PESO - another one for Annsan

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That point is very hard to see...

John Francis wrote:
> http://panix.com/~johnf/temp/SpeedLimit.jpg
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>
>   


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Re: OT: dog, cat and rat

[P. J. Alling]

> This city is headed for a disaster of biblical proportions. . . . dogs 
> and cats living together... mass hysteria! 
Dr. Peter Venkman...


Toine wrote:
> and maybe a flea:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D85yrIgA4Nk
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Re: PESO: Goosling: with correction: Gosling

[Steve Desjardins]

I like "goosling" better.  I think I'll start using that spelling. 
That's how languages change, after all. ;-)

>>> "Christine  Aguila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 5/18/2008 12:23 PM >>>
Thanks, Ann.  Much appreciated.  Cheers, Christine


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Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: PESO: Goosling: with correction: Gosling


> Christine Aguila wrote:
>
>>Thanks,  Paul, Scott, Bruce, Jack, Godfrey, and Charles.  I
originally 
>>shot
>>all of mom, but the gosling got lost in the frame, so fooled around
with 
>>the
>>cropping & came up with this.  I like it better this way.
>>
>
> I'm late getting in a me too on this -- I like it very much as
cropped and
> just swat the guys who correct your spelling typos :)
>
> Best,
> ann
>
>>
>>And not to worry Charles:  I do know how to spell gosling--that's a
typo
>>that got past me.  I posted & rushed out the door to get my cleaning
fluid
>>for my negs, ,eg sleeves, and a light meter.  I bought the Sekonic 
>>Twinmate
>>L-208.  It's small & very simple to use.  Got the suggestion from the

>>list.
>>Thanks everyone.  Much appreciated.
>>Christine
>>
>>
>>
>>- Original Message - 
>>From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>>Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 10:36 AM
>>Subject: Re: PESO: Goosling
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Excellent. I like the way he's framed by mom's breast and neck.
>>>Paul
>>>On May 16, 2008, at 11:30 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
I know how many of you feel about these creatures, but I couldn't
resist.

K10D, 50-135mm, 135mm 1/400 sec @ f5, ISO 200

Small
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7267588 

Larger
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7267588&size=lg 

Comments/critique welcome.

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Re: Lilac

[Christine Aguila]

Very pretty, Paul.  I can smell it from here.  Cheers, Christine


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Subject: PESO: Lilac


>A hybrid lilac in my garden:
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Re: PESO: Goosling: with correction: Gosling

[Christine Aguila]

Thanks, Ann.  Much appreciated.  Cheers, Christine


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Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: PESO: Goosling: with correction: Gosling


> Christine Aguila wrote:
>
>>Thanks,  Paul, Scott, Bruce, Jack, Godfrey, and Charles.  I originally 
>>shot
>>all of mom, but the gosling got lost in the frame, so fooled around with 
>>the
>>cropping & came up with this.  I like it better this way.
>>
>
> I'm late getting in a me too on this -- I like it very much as cropped and
> just swat the guys who correct your spelling typos :)
>
> Best,
> ann
>
>>
>>And not to worry Charles:  I do know how to spell gosling--that's a typo
>>that got past me.  I posted & rushed out the door to get my cleaning fluid
>>for my negs, ,eg sleeves, and a light meter.  I bought the Sekonic 
>>Twinmate
>>L-208.  It's small & very simple to use.  Got the suggestion from the 
>>list.
>>Thanks everyone.  Much appreciated.
>>Christine
>>
>>
>>
>>- Original Message - 
>>From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>>Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 10:36 AM
>>Subject: Re: PESO: Goosling
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Excellent. I like the way he's framed by mom's breast and neck.
>>>Paul
>>>On May 16, 2008, at 11:30 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
I know how many of you feel about these creatures, but I couldn't
resist.

K10D, 50-135mm, 135mm 1/400 sec @ f5, ISO 200

Small
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7267588

Larger
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7267588&size=lg

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Re: depressed

[Adam Maas]

On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 12:13 PM, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "David Savage"
> Subject: Re: depressed
>
>
>> No need to be depressed, Nikon make good stuff.
>>
>> I had the chance to use a D300 yesterday Damn fine piece of equipment.
>
> You could take a D300 and beat a K20 to death with it, and then use the D300 
> to take pictures of
> the kill.
> Pentax really needs to make a body in it's class.
> It would be nice to have a body that matches the quality of the lenses.
>
> William Robb
>

Wel, the D300 is something of a class-breaker, offering performance
that exceeds the last-generation pro bodies (1DmIIN and D2Xs) for
about what an *istD sold for when new. But it would be cool if Pentax
brought out a K2D with most of the D300's features (I don't expect the
8fps, wicked fast AF or 2000+ shots per charge part, but the build
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Re: Park life

[Christine Aguila]

Bob:  My favs are 4, 5, & 6.  Cheers, Christine


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Subject: Park life


> Greenwich Park on a soggy spring day:
> http://www.web-options.com/Park/
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Re: depressed

[William Robb]

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Subject: depressed


> hi folks, sorry if i missed some posts, my c drive croaked. the wife didn't 
> like the way the ist d felt, so i lost
> the battle. she is now a new n***n d40 user. i tried eveything. I thank you 
> all again for your help.

Well, I guess you won't be getting any Christmas cards from us this year

William Robb

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Re: depressed

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
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Subject: Re: depressed


> No need to be depressed, Nikon make good stuff.
>
> I had the chance to use a D300 yesterday Damn fine piece of equipment.

You could take a D300 and beat a K20 to death with it, and then use the D300 to 
take pictures of 
the kill.
Pentax really needs to make a body in it's class.
It would be nice to have a body that matches the quality of the lenses.

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Re: depressed

[Paul Stenquist]

That Nikon is a good camera. Much faster write speed than the *istD,  
although probably not as well built. Of course, you have Pentax  
lenses, so I guess you're just going to have to get your own camera.  
K10Ds are becoming quite inexpensive, and they're great cameras.
Paul
On May 18, 2008, at 11:16 AM, Steve Larson wrote:

> hi folks, sorry if i missed some posts, my c drive croaked. the  
> wife didn't
> like the way the ist d felt, so i lost
> the battle. she is now a new n***n d40 user. i tried eveything. I  
> thank you
> all again for your help.
>
> steve
>
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Re: depressed

[Boris Liberman]

Why would you be depressed?

Well the C: drive is indeed unpleasant hmmm eventuality. But really,
if you have both Pentax and Nikon (no, I am not afraid to spell it
out) in your household, it means you can actually choose and compare
and enjoy both worlds. So that sans your computer issue, I think you
may even have some reasons to feel happy.

Cheers!

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> like the way the ist d felt, so i lost
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Re: PESO: Lilac

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Dave.
On May 18, 2008, at 11:36 AM, David Savage wrote:

> Nice one Paul.
>
> Love the expanse of green.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
>
> 2008/5/18 Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> A hybrid lilac in my garden:
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Re: Lilac

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Bill. Yes, it's the DA* 50-135.
It is similar to some of Bruce's work. Although I must point out that  
I've been shooting flowers at wide aps and distant backgrounds for a  
couple of decades. It's a very nice technique that's easy to master.
Paul

On May 18, 2008, at 11:21 AM, William Robb wrote:

>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Paul Stenquist"
> Subject: Re: Lilac
>
>  A hybrid lilac in my garden:
>
>  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7273191&size=lg
>
> Yer kinda channeling Bruce Dayton with this one. It's a lovely shot.
> I missed which lens it was shot with, but it seems to have very  
> smooth rendering.
> Was that the 50-135?
> (note, this is not a "great picture, you must have a good lens"  
> comment).
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Re: PESO: Bridge at Port Sunlight Redux

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On May 17, 2008, at 1:57 AM, John Whittingham wrote:

> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7270191

That's rather nice, John! :-)

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Re: PESO: Lilac

[David Savage]

Nice one Paul.

Love the expanse of green.

Cheers,

Dave

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> A hybrid lilac in my garden:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7273191&size=lg

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Re: Pentax K28mm 3.5 shift

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On May 18, 2008, at 7:47 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

>>> digital purists.
>> Surely an oxymoron?
> It's a bit off.
Just words.

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Re: Lilac

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Stenquist"
Subject: Re: Lilac

 A hybrid lilac in my garden:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7273191&size=lg

Yer kinda channeling Bruce Dayton with this one. It's a lovely shot.
I missed which lens it was shot with, but it seems to have very smooth 
rendering.
Was that the 50-135?
(note, this is not a "great picture, you must have a good lens" comment).

William Robb

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Re: depressed

[David Savage]

No need to be depressed, Nikon make good stuff.

I had the chance to use a D300 yesterday Damn fine piece of equipment.

Cheers,

Dave


2008/5/18 Steve Larson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> hi folks, sorry if i missed some posts, my c drive croaked. the wife didn't
> like the way the ist d felt, so i lost
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depressed

[Steve Larson]

hi folks, sorry if i missed some posts, my c drive croaked. the wife didn't 
like the way the ist d felt, so i lost
the battle. she is now a new n***n d40 user. i tried eveything. I thank you 
all again for your help.

steve



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Re: Pentax K28mm 3.5 shift

[Bruce Walker]

Cotty wrote:
> On 17/5/08, Bob Blakely, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>   
>> digital purists.
>> 
>
> Surely an oxymoron?
>   

It's a bit off.

-bmw

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Re: Lilac

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Jack.
Paul
On May 18, 2008, at 9:31 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

> Wonderful, Paul. When I lived in Iowa (loonngg ago) we had a large  
> Lilac bush. I swear I could again smell its sweet fragrance when I  
> opened this well done image.
>
> Jack
>
>
> --- On Sat, 5/17/08, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: Lilac
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Date: Saturday, May 17, 2008, 9:06 PM
>> Thanks Ken. I wish I could attach the fragrance:-).
>> Paul
>> On May 17, 2008, at 11:42 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
>>
>>> Nice capture Paul.
>>>
>>> Kenneth Waller
>>> http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Paul Stenquist"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Subject: PESO: Lilac
>>>
>>>
 A hybrid lilac in my garden:

>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7273191&size=lg
>>>
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Re: wHICH fLASH UNIT FOR K10D OR K20D

[jens]

THANKS PAUL.
I know Pentax makes great quality flash units. I used to have the old AF
500 FTZ which is built like a tank and beautifully designed. Unfortunately
this is a ttl only unit. I'm supprised to hera about problems with the$
locking mechanism.

The Metz 58-1 costs appr. 40 USD less than the AF 540FGZ , but less
powerfull (only GN 42). In Germany the Metz is 280 Euro, the Pentax is 320
USD.


Regards
Jens

The Pentax AF 540 is great in terms of consistency and exposure. All
> of its special functions, such as high speed synch and wireless, work
> flawlessly. I've owned both it and the Sigma 500 (530) Super. The
> Pentax 540 is vastly superior. It's perfectly mated to the cameras.
> It's only weak point is its locking mechanism, but if you take care
> in operating the clamp, it will be fine.
> Paul
> On May 18, 2008, at 5:32 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>> Dear PDML members
>> Which flash unit should I get for my K10D which will also be right
>> for a
>> K20D? I never realy started getting unists for other than TTL, which
>> doesn't work with the new Pentax models.
>>
>> All the best
>> Jens Bladt
>> Denmark
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Re: Lilac

[Jack Davis]

Wonderful, Paul. When I lived in Iowa (loonngg ago) we had a large Lilac bush. 
I swear I could again smell its sweet fragrance when I opened this well done 
image. 

Jack


--- On Sat, 5/17/08, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Lilac
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Saturday, May 17, 2008, 9:06 PM
> Thanks Ken. I wish I could attach the fragrance:-).
> Paul
> On May 17, 2008, at 11:42 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
> 
> > Nice capture Paul.
> >
> > Kenneth Waller
> > http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Paul Stenquist"
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> > Subject: PESO: Lilac
> >
> >
> >> A hybrid lilac in my garden:
> >>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7273191&size=lg
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