Re: OT: Configuring a second internal hard drive (mac g4)?

[Doug Franklin]

Mat Maessen wrote:
> On 6/24/08, Doug Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  can't offer any advice on partitioning and formatting the thing.  You
>>  probably should go ahead and figure out where in the directory hierarchy
>>  you want to mount the thing, though.
> 
> The OS figures that out for you. It gets mounted as /Volumes/ name> and shows up as an available drive in the Finder.

Yeah, well, being a geek, I usually don't agree with such as that. :-)

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Re: OT: Configuring a second internal hard drive (mac g4)?

[Cotty]

On 25/6/08, Doug Franklin, discombobulated, unleashed:

>It wants to give you more options rather than making thing easier up
>front.  Don't get me wrong, I'm about as far from a Microsoft apologist
>as you're going to find, but I believe that's the big difference.
>Personally, it would p*** me the f*** off that it forced me to mount it
>under the name and location that the OS decided was best for me, even if
>it was.  It would still p*** me off. :-)

Pipe down Franklin and drive on the correct side of the road while
you're at it !!

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PESO 2008 - 99 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I indulged myself in some people shooting last time I was at the  
Legion of Honor in San Francisco. I'm not certain why, but I like  
this photo of a little girl waiting for her father to finish talking  
to someone.

   http://homepage.mac.com/godders/99-waiting.jpg
   Waiting For Dad - San Francisco 2008
   Olympus E-1 + Summilux-D 25mm f/1.4 ASPH
   ISO 400 @ f/1.4 @ 1/20 sec

Comments and critique always appreciated.

enjoy
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Re: OT: Configuring a second internal hard drive (mac g4)?

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi"
Subject: Re: OT: Configuring a second internal hard drive (mac g4)?



> - I don't know what you mean by "location" for a drive. Must be a
> Windows thing. Mac OS X is based on a UNIX system ... The standard
> mount point for all file volumes is at "/Volumes" under the name you
> give them in Mac OS X.

I think that is the drive letter.
We Windows users get them as a free bonus so that if we don't name our drives, 
we can still 
identify them.

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Re: OT: Configuring a second internal hard drive (mac g4)?

[Doug Franklin]

William Robb wrote:

> From: "Mat Maessen"

>> On 6/24/08, Doug Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>  can't offer any advice on partitioning and formatting the thing.  You
>>>  probably should go ahead and figure out where in the directory hierarchy
>>>  you want to mount the thing, though.
>> The OS figures that out for you. It gets mounted as /Volumes/> name> and shows up as an available drive in the Finder.
> 
> I think it's neat that all you have to do is plug the thing in, and viola!! 
> One of the things 
> I've never figured out is why Windows doesn't do it automatically, or at 
> least autolaunch the 
> new drive wizard thingie. I mean, why else would you put a new drive into a 
> computer?

It wants to give you more options rather than making thing easier up 
front.  Don't get me wrong, I'm about as far from a Microsoft apologist 
as you're going to find, but I believe that's the big difference. 
Personally, it would p*** me the f*** off that it forced me to mount it 
under the name and location that the OS decided was best for me, even if 
it was.  It would still p*** me off. :-)

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Re: AF 540fgz problems (technology hates me)

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Charles Robinson"
Subject: Re: AF 540fgz problems (technology hates me)


> On Jun 24, 2008, at 21:25, David Savage wrote:
>> I'm assuming you've checked to make sure you don't have any + flash
>> compensation dialed in on either the flash or the camera?
>>
>
> Yup.
>
> And dialing it back -2.0 just barely makes a difference.
>
> You should see the pathetic pre-flash.  You can't even see that it is
> happening when you watch through the viewfinder

Well, that sounds like a buggered flash.
Out of curiosity, do you have a relationship with a camera store that could 
help you pin down 
the problem?
Perhaps trying your flash on a different camera? A different flash on your 
camera?

William Robb 


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Re: PESO-Butterfly Encounter

[Ken Waller]

Great butterfly capture!
I'd crop out the parts of the plant on the RH side

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Walter Hamler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PESO-Butterfly Encounter


> Local Nursery has a Butterfly House. Great opportunity for pics but I
> have learned bigtime that macro is hard!!!
>
> Walt
>
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Re: AF 540fgz problems (technology hates me)

[Charles Robinson]

On Jun 24, 2008, at 21:25, David Savage wrote:
> I'm assuming you've checked to make sure you don't have any + flash
> compensation dialed in on either the flash or the camera?
>

Yup.

And dialing it back -2.0 just barely makes a difference.

You should see the pathetic pre-flash.  You can't even see that it is  
happening when you watch through the viewfinder

  -Charles

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Re: OT: Configuring a second internal hard drive (mac g4)?

[Adam Maas]

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 10:46 PM, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mat Maessen"
> Subject: Re: OT: Configuring a second internal hard drive (mac g4)?
>
>
>> On 6/24/08, Doug Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>  can't offer any advice on partitioning and formatting the thing.  You
>>>  probably should go ahead and figure out where in the directory hierarchy
>>>  you want to mount the thing, though.
>>
>> The OS figures that out for you. It gets mounted as /Volumes/> name> and shows up as an available drive in the Finder.
>
> I think it's neat that all you have to do is plug the thing in, and viola!! 
> One of the things
> I've never figured out is why Windows doesn't do it automatically, or at 
> least autolaunch the
> new drive wizard thingie. I mean, why else would you put a new drive into a 
> computer?
>
> William Robb
>

Windows does do the same thing, as the Mac doesn't actually mount
anything until you've run Disk Utility to format and name the drive.


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Re: OT: Configuring a second internal hard drive (mac g4)?

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Mat Maessen"
Subject: Re: OT: Configuring a second internal hard drive (mac g4)?


> On 6/24/08, Doug Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  can't offer any advice on partitioning and formatting the thing.  You
>>  probably should go ahead and figure out where in the directory hierarchy
>>  you want to mount the thing, though.
>
> The OS figures that out for you. It gets mounted as /Volumes/ name> and shows up as an available drive in the Finder.

I think it's neat that all you have to do is plug the thing in, and viola!! One 
of the things 
I've never figured out is why Windows doesn't do it automatically, or at least 
autolaunch the 
new drive wizard thingie. I mean, why else would you put a new drive into a 
computer?

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Re: OT: Configuring a second internal hard drive (mac g4)?

[Mat Maessen]

On 6/24/08, Doug Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  can't offer any advice on partitioning and formatting the thing.  You
>  probably should go ahead and figure out where in the directory hierarchy
>  you want to mount the thing, though.

The OS figures that out for you. It gets mounted as /Volumes/ and shows up as an available drive in the Finder.

-Mat

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Re: AF 540fgz problems (technology hates me)

[David Savage]

At 09:35 AM 25/06/2008, Charles Robinson wrote:
>I've started having wild overexposure problems with my AF540FGz and
>K10D.





>I'm so frustrated and sad at the same time.  Oh - and angry!  Any
>suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


I'm assuming you've checked to make sure you don't have any + flash 
compensation dialed in on either the flash or the camera?

Dave


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Re: AF 540fgz problems (technology hates me)

[pnstenquist]

Make sure it's firmly seated in the flash shoe. Make sure the locking pin is 
still intact. Make sure the slider siwtch that gives you high speed synch and 
trailing shutter synch is in the far left position. Try a new set of batteries. 
If one of your set has begun to fail, it will cause havoc.

 That's all I can think of at the moment. My 540 outperformed my Sigma Super by 
a wide margin with far better exposure accuracy. If you continue to have 
trouble, send it in for repair. 
 -- Original message --
From: Charles Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I've started having wild overexposure problems with my AF540FGz and  
> K10D.
> 
> At first I figured it was dirty contacts - cleaned everything.
> 
> Then I thought low batteries - charged them.
> 
> Same problem.
> 
> It seems to works almost flawlessly in the "A" exposure mode.  But not  
> in P-TTL.
> 
> The Sigma EF-500 DG Super works like a charm on the same camera in  
> just about any mode - with a few exposure problems no different from  
> what I've had when using the past 3 years on my ist-DS.
> 
> Then I figured out what the problem is (but not how to fix it):  I'm  
> not getting much of a pre-flash.  Sometimes the flash doesn't go of AT  
> ALL but I get a teeny-tiny little blip of light out of the flash.   
> Basically.. the pre-flash is so pathetically non-flashlike that the  
> K10D or whatever it's attached to go "oh, I didn't get much light  
> reflected back, I'd better crank up the output!" and the 540 is going  
> for it for all it is worth.
> 
> So WTF?  What the hell would cause it to pre-flash so low as to be non- 
> existent?  And is there anything I can try.. short of sending it  
> in for service along with the 16-50 I just sent in today?
> 
> I'm so frustrated and sad at the same time.  Oh - and angry!  Any  
> suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
> 
>   -Charles
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AF 540fgz problems (technology hates me)

[Charles Robinson]

I've started having wild overexposure problems with my AF540FGz and  
K10D.

At first I figured it was dirty contacts - cleaned everything.

Then I thought low batteries - charged them.

Same problem.

It seems to works almost flawlessly in the "A" exposure mode.  But not  
in P-TTL.

The Sigma EF-500 DG Super works like a charm on the same camera in  
just about any mode - with a few exposure problems no different from  
what I've had when using the past 3 years on my ist-DS.

Then I figured out what the problem is (but not how to fix it):  I'm  
not getting much of a pre-flash.  Sometimes the flash doesn't go of AT  
ALL but I get a teeny-tiny little blip of light out of the flash.   
Basically.. the pre-flash is so pathetically non-flashlike that the  
K10D or whatever it's attached to go "oh, I didn't get much light  
reflected back, I'd better crank up the output!" and the 540 is going  
for it for all it is worth.

So WTF?  What the hell would cause it to pre-flash so low as to be non- 
existent?  And is there anything I can try.. short of sending it  
in for service along with the 16-50 I just sent in today?

I'm so frustrated and sad at the same time.  Oh - and angry!  Any  
suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

  -Charles

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Re: PESO-Butterfly Encounter

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Macro may be hard, but you got it right here. Excellent shot.
Paul
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> Local Nursery has a Butterfly House. Great opportunity for pics but I
> have learned bigtime that macro is hard!!!
> 
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Re: PESO: Little friends

[John Francis]

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 09:00:49AM +1000, Brian Walters wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:07:33 +0300, "Margus M?nnik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> said:
> > Hi,
> > one of my country house tenants:
> > http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/karp2008.jpg
> > (K20D, FA135, not cropped)
> > 
> 
> 
> Very nice and extremely cute but (pardon my ignorance) what is it?

Looks like a Pine Marten to me.


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Re: PESO: Little friends

[Christian]

Very nice grab. Cute little critter.  Based on Margus' name, I'd say 
it's a pine martin (Martes martes) a member of the weasel family from 
Northern Europe.

Christian

P. J. Alling wrote:
> Looks like a ferret.
> 
> Brian Walters wrote:
>> On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:07:33 +0300, "Margus Männik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> said:
>>   
>>> Hi,
>>> one of my country house tenants:
>>> http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/karp2008.jpg
>>> (K20D, FA135, not cropped)
>>>
>>> 
>>
>> Very nice and extremely cute but (pardon my ignorance) what is it?
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> ++
>> Brian Walters
>> Western Sydney Australia
>> http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/
>>   
> 
> 


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Re: PESO-Butterfly Encounter

[Walter Hamler]

Thanks Jack.
My new (old) Vivitar 283 was working hard. I think I could add some
more fill in Lightroom/Photoshop to bring out a little more.

Walt

On 6/24/08, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Really a well caught shot. The DOF issue with macros is somewhat reduced by 
> the broadside angle to this, more or less, two dimensional critter.
> To me, it needs more light (flash?) to appreciate the really fine detail.
>
> Jack
>
>
> --- On Tue, 6/24/08, Walter Hamler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > From: Walter Hamler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: PESO-Butterfly Encounter
> > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> > Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 5:08 PM
> > Local Nursery has a Butterfly House. Great opportunity for
> > pics but I
> > have learned bigtime that macro is hard!!!
> >
> > Walt
> >
> > http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J/3/319375517_VQr2A#319375517_VQr2A-XL-LB
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Re: PESO-Butterfly Encounter

[Walter Hamler]

Thanks Bob. This one was probably my best one as far as focus. I had
two or three others that were better composed but I missed the focus.
I am using a Phoenix 100mm f/3.5 manual focus and it is tough for
these tired eyes.
I plan to go back several more times (it's cheap!) and try to hone the skills.

Walt

On 6/24/08, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Very nice Walt.
> It's had to get that well focused.
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 7:08 PM, Walter Hamler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Local Nursery has a Butterfly House. Great opportunity for pics but I
> > have learned bigtime that macro is hard!!!
> >
> > Walt
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Re: PESO-Butterfly Encounter

[Jack Davis]

Really a well caught shot. The DOF issue with macros is somewhat reduced by the 
broadside angle to this, more or less, two dimensional critter.
To me, it needs more light (flash?) to appreciate the really fine detail.

Jack


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> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
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> Local Nursery has a Butterfly House. Great opportunity for
> pics but I
> have learned bigtime that macro is hard!!!
> 
> Walt
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Re: PESO-Butterfly Encounter

[Bob Sullivan]

Very nice Walt.
It's had to get that well focused.
Regards,  Bob S.

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>
> Walt
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Re: OT: Configuring a second internal hard drive (mac g4)?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Jun 24, 2008, at 5:07 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:

> ... I don't know anything about Mac OS, though, so I
> can't offer any advice on partitioning and formatting the thing.  You
> probably should go ahead and figure out where in the directory  
> hierarchy
> you want to mount the thing, though.

The Mac OS X utility program, Disk Utility, will by default do the  
correct thing for 99% of configuration cases (format than setup the  
drive as Mac OS Extended (Journaled) file system volume with a single  
partition, Apple_HFS partition type on an Apple_partition_scheme) and  
mount it in accordance with the UNIX disk identifier and mount point  
schema.

In other words, there's nothing much to do other than fit the drive,  
start the system, and let Disk Utility do its job.

Godfrey

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Re: PESO: Little friends

[Doug Franklin]

Margus Männik wrote:
> Hi,
> one of my country house tenants:
> http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/karp2008.jpg
> (K20D, FA135, not cropped)

Very nice, Margus.  Is that a child ferret?  It doesn't look full grown yet.

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Re: PESO: More of the real stuff

[Doug Franklin]

Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:
> A classical winter shot of Cockerill's coking plant in Seraing, Belgium.
> Only possible in a two-week window around Christmas, when the sun is low
> enough to be right behind the coal tower, in the early afternoon.
> 
> http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/13313360

As always, Ralf, beautiful.  I'm not sure if those clouds over on the 
left add to or detract from the image.  I wonder if there also might be 
a couple other shots this time of year.  Say position one off to the 
left of this shot and pointing toward the right of this one at the 
tower, and, especially, one that's the reverse (position off to the 
right of this shot, and shooting toward the left of this shot, also 
making the tower primary, keeping the shooting position in the shadow 
and shooting through the smoke ... ought to be able to see the "God 
Rays" better, too).

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PESO-Butterfly Encounter

[Walter Hamler]

Local Nursery has a Butterfly House. Great opportunity for pics but I
have learned bigtime that macro is hard!!!

Walt

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Re: OT: Configuring a second internal hard drive (mac g4)?

[Doug Franklin]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Thanks Mat. I guess I should take a look at the startup drive when I get it 
> out and see if that's configured for cable select or master. I installed that 
> drive myself a year or so ago without touching it. So it's set to whatever 
> configuration the Seagate drives ship with.

Since you didn't have to mess with the first drive before installing it, 
it's probably set up for Cable Select mode.  Which means leaving the 
second drive as it comes out of the box, which should be Cable Select 
mode, should be fine.  I don't know anything about Mac OS, though, so I 
can't offer any advice on partitioning and formatting the thing.  You 
probably should go ahead and figure out where in the directory hierarchy 
you want to mount the thing, though.

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Re: PESO: Little friends

[P. J. Alling]

Looks like a ferret.

Brian Walters wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:07:33 +0300, "Margus Männik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> said:
>   
>> Hi,
>> one of my country house tenants:
>> http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/karp2008.jpg
>> (K20D, FA135, not cropped)
>>
>> 
>
>
> Very nice and extremely cute but (pardon my ignorance) what is it?
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
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Re: PESO: More of the real stuff

[pnstenquist]

Superb. Dramatic. As expected from you Ralf.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ralf R. Radermacher)
> A classical winter shot of Cockerill's coking plant in Seraing, Belgium.
> Only possible in a two-week window around Christmas, when the sun is low
> enough to be right behind the coal tower, in the early afternoon.
> 
> http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/13313360
> 
> As always, your comments and suggestions... :-)
> 
> Ralf
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Re: PESO: Little friends

[pnstenquist]

Excellent photo. What kind of animal is it? I suppose I should know, but I 
don't.
Paul
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From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> On Jun 24, 2008, at 3:07 PM, Margus Männik wrote:
> 
> > one of my country house tenants:
> > http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/karp2008.jpg
> > (K20D, FA135, not cropped)
> 
> Very nice! :-)
> 
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Re: OT: Configuring a second internal hard drive (mac g4)?

[pnstenquist]

Thanks Godders. I still have those directions from last time you showed me how 
to do this:-). At that time I replaced the startup drive. So now I'll have 1250 
gig in the box and another 1500 in the desktop firewire drives. Everything will 
be backed up, and I'll sleep better. No smiley.
Paul
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From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Should be simple.
> 
> The PowerMac G4 1.25 Ghz should have both Ultra ATA/66 and Ultra ATA/ 
> 100 busses with IDE drives configured for cable select, at which  
> point it's a simple matter to fit the drive, power up the system,  
> format and partition the new drive. Here's a document on physically  
> installing the drive:
> 
> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1815
> 
> And a couple of articles on differentiating the Power Mac G4 models:
> 
> http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=42739
> 
> The earlier models with Ultra ATA/66 only presented some difficulties  
> with today's drives as Ultra ATA/66 could only format a drive up to a  
> volume sized at 128 Gbytes (no matter what the physical capacity of  
> the drive), but you should not have any difficulties with your system.
> 
> Godfrey
> 
> 
> On Jun 24, 2008, at 8:18 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > I've run out of hard drive space on all but my startup drive, so  
> > it's time to add more. I have four firewire drives on my desk  
> > already, and I still have an empty second drive bay in my dual 1.25  
> > G4 Mac. So I bought a 750 gig IDE  ATA-6 Seagate Barracuda, and I'm  
> > going to install it internally in the top half of the lower drive  
> > bay. ($138 at 4allmemory.com). Do I have to do anything to  
> > configure the new drive so the Mac knows it's not the startup  
> > drive? I saw some mention of "jumpers" in an on line article, but  
> > it wasn't clear. I'm hoping someone here can tell me if I need to  
> > do any more than screw it into the bay and connect it to the second  
> > ribbon plug.
> > Paul
> >
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Re: OT: Configuring a second internal hard drive (mac g4)?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Should be simple.

The PowerMac G4 1.25 Ghz should have both Ultra ATA/66 and Ultra ATA/ 
100 busses with IDE drives configured for cable select, at which  
point it's a simple matter to fit the drive, power up the system,  
format and partition the new drive. Here's a document on physically  
installing the drive:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1815

And a couple of articles on differentiating the Power Mac G4 models:

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=42739

The earlier models with Ultra ATA/66 only presented some difficulties  
with today's drives as Ultra ATA/66 could only format a drive up to a  
volume sized at 128 Gbytes (no matter what the physical capacity of  
the drive), but you should not have any difficulties with your system.

Godfrey


On Jun 24, 2008, at 8:18 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I've run out of hard drive space on all but my startup drive, so  
> it's time to add more. I have four firewire drives on my desk  
> already, and I still have an empty second drive bay in my dual 1.25  
> G4 Mac. So I bought a 750 gig IDE  ATA-6 Seagate Barracuda, and I'm  
> going to install it internally in the top half of the lower drive  
> bay. ($138 at 4allmemory.com). Do I have to do anything to  
> configure the new drive so the Mac knows it's not the startup  
> drive? I saw some mention of "jumpers" in an on line article, but  
> it wasn't clear. I'm hoping someone here can tell me if I need to  
> do any more than screw it into the bay and connect it to the second  
> ribbon plug.
> Paul
>

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Re: PESO: Little friends

[Brian Walters]

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:07:33 +0300, "Margus Männik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> Hi,
> one of my country house tenants:
> http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/karp2008.jpg
> (K20D, FA135, not cropped)
> 


Very nice and extremely cute but (pardon my ignorance) what is it?



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PESO: More of the real stuff

[Ralf R. Radermacher]

A classical winter shot of Cockerill's coking plant in Seraing, Belgium.
Only possible in a two-week window around Christmas, when the sun is low
enough to be right behind the coal tower, in the early afternoon.

http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/13313360

As always, your comments and suggestions... :-)

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Re: On the issue of blown highlights!: A collection of the responses for easy printout for anyone interested--especially those just starting out like me

[Brian Walters]

Thanks for collecting those, Christine.

I'd already archived most of the responses for future reference but
having them all together is great.

It was a top thread - thanks for starting it.


Cheers

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On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:00:58 -0500, "Christine  Aguila"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Excellent advice for those starting out like me.  Here it is for easy 
> printout!  Cheers, Christine
> 
> 
> 
> Paul S:
> 
> 
> 
> I think that for street photography, the matrix metering of the K10D will 
> work quite well most of the time. You could spot meter a tone that's
> close 
> to grey card reflectivity (green grass works well as do dirty
> sidewalks:-), 
> but locking in a meter reading only works if the light is constant. 
> Frequently, when shooting on the street, you'll get a mix of light that
> may 
> vary depending on which way you aim the camera.
> 
> The matrix meter tends to expose for the highlights. I find I frequently 
> have to bump up the midrange and sometimes the shadows as well, while the 
> highlights are usually close to right on.
> 
> In terms of visualizing, I think you're doing very well. I guess the only 
> recommendation I might make is to develop a certain midset. Don't look
> for 
> something to shoot. Look for a great picture, regardless of the subject.
> 
> 
> 
> Bob W:
> 
> 
> 
> Rather than trying to recognise mid-tones (which you will eventually
> be able to do quite easily), you might want to try incident metering
> and manual exposure. In situations such as you describe, when I know
> the meter is going to go haywire, I tend to switch to manual. Now with
> a digital camera it's also convenient to check the histogram to get an
> idea of where everything is, and to adjust exposure accordingly if you
> want to shift everything further to the right.
> 
> Some useful common midtones are pavements, grass, brick walls,
> slightly faded denim, blue sky, rhino skin, bits of pigeon,
> rainclouds.
> 
> I have quite a useful book called The Perfect Exposure by Jim
> Zuckerman. Mostly he just tells you to use an incident meter, but
> there is a chapter in which he shows a number of colour photographs
> and points out what he used as the middle tone. You might be able to
> find a copy in your library.
> 
> 
> 
> William Robb
> 
> 
> 
> This is, I think, the best metering strategy.
> Meter the brightest area of the scene that you want to hold detail and
> set 
> it to Zone VIII
> (meter it and open up 3 stops) The shadows will fall where they fall, but 
> usually they will fall
> within the range of the sensor.
> I spent years trying to meter for the shadows before I read in a Zone VI 
> newsletter about Fred
> Picker's method. He said that rying to find the deepest shadow in a scene 
> can be frustratingly
> difficult, but findong the brightest point is relatively easy. Now he was
> a 
> landscape guy, not a
> gentrified street photographer, so for him, the brightest part of the
> scene 
> was usually clouds.
> I would think that on the street, the brightest parts of the scene will
> be 
> building walls and
> the like.
> Just remember that specular reflections are going to be blown out no
> matter 
> what you do, so
> ignore them for metering.
> 
> 
> 
> JOC
> 
> 
> 
> with digital, frames are almost free, bracket on 1/2 stop critical
> shots with RAW and solve the probems later.
> 
> 
> 
> Godfrey:
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 23, 2008, at 11:10 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:
> > 1) I'm having a devil of a time with blown highlights, especially in
> > challenging lighting situations.  I've been trying to teach myself
> > the Zone
> > System--and I think I've got the gist of it.  But for street
> > photography,
> > things get a bit rushed, so, as I've learned, I should quickly spot
> > meter
> > for a mid-tone, lock in exposure, then reframe, focus & shoot.
> 
> 
> Digital camera exposure is different from film exposure because the
> characteristic behavior of a digital sensor is fundamentally
> different from film.
> 
> - Highlight values run into the hard wall of sensor saturation when
> the sensor runs out of numbers to quantize the incoming energy
> level ... there's no "shoulder" or slope involved, when the energy
> level received by a photosite in a 12bit sensor hits the integer 4095
> after going through the A->D converter, there is no more energy it
> can report and it simply gives the maximum value.
> 
> - The minimum exposure threshold boundary is soft: it's a matter of
> the actual analog DR of the sensor vs how much noise you find
> acceptable to set where you put the black point. Compared to film,
> it's a much "softer" slope because you can determine from frame to
> frame what you feel is important.
> 
> That said, on average, correct exposure for both tends to be fairly
> close, what you need to be conscious of is the sensor's dynamic range
> given whether you are capturi

Re: Configuring a second internal hard drive (mac g4)?

[Adam Maas]

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 4:33 PM, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Subject: OT: Configuring a second internal hard drive (mac g4)?
>
>
>> I've run out of hard drive space on all but my startup drive, so it's time 
>> to add more. I have
>> four firewire drives on my desk already, and I still have an empty second 
>> drive bay in my dual
>> 1.25 G4 Mac. So I bought a 750 gig IDE  ATA-6 Seagate Barracuda, and I'm 
>> going to install it
>> internally in the top half of the lower drive bay. ($138 at 4allmemory.com). 
>> Do I have to do
>> anything to configure the new drive so the Mac knows it's not the startup 
>> drive? I saw some
>> mention of "jumpers" in an on line article, but it wasn't clear. I'm hoping 
>> someone here can
>> tell me if I need to do any more than screw it into the bay and connect it 
>> to the second
>> ribbon plug.
>
> With a PC, all you need to do is install the drive, restart the machine, go 
> to the disk
> management section of the computer management, and initialize the drive. The 
> computer assigns a
> drive letter, does a format and your good to go.
> You should be able to leave the jumper on cable select, since it isn't going 
> onto the same plug
> as the C drive
> Windows machines need to format new drives before they can be used
> I would expect that it would be similar on a MAC, though it might be easier 
> as well.
>
> William Robb
>

Pretty much exactly the same on the Mac, except partitioning and
formatting are done at once by default, not one after the other.

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Re: PESO: Little friends

[Bob Sullivan]

That's terriffic!  Very cute.
I like the face as shown and the environmental background.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Margus Männik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> one of my country house tenants:
> http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/karp2008.jpg
> (K20D, FA135, not cropped)
>
> BR, Margus
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Re: PESO: Little friends

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Jun 24, 2008, at 3:07 PM, Margus Männik wrote:

> one of my country house tenants:
> http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/karp2008.jpg
> (K20D, FA135, not cropped)

Very nice! :-)

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Re: PESO: Little friends

[Cotty]

On 25/6/08, Margus Männik, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Hi,
>one of my country house tenants:
>http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/karp2008.jpg
>(K20D, FA135, not cropped)

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PESO: Little friends

[Margus Männik]

Hi,
one of my country house tenants:
http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/karp2008.jpg
(K20D, FA135, not cropped)

BR, Margus


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Re: Configuring a second internal hard drive (mac g4)?

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: OT: Configuring a second internal hard drive (mac g4)?


> I've run out of hard drive space on all but my startup drive, so it's time to 
> add more. I have
> four firewire drives on my desk already, and I still have an empty second 
> drive bay in my dual
> 1.25 G4 Mac. So I bought a 750 gig IDE  ATA-6 Seagate Barracuda, and I'm 
> going to install it
> internally in the top half of the lower drive bay. ($138 at 4allmemory.com). 
> Do I have to do
> anything to configure the new drive so the Mac knows it's not the startup 
> drive? I saw some
> mention of "jumpers" in an on line article, but it wasn't clear. I'm hoping 
> someone here can
> tell me if I need to do any more than screw it into the bay and connect it to 
> the second
> ribbon plug.

With a PC, all you need to do is install the drive, restart the machine, go to 
the disk
management section of the computer management, and initialize the drive. The 
computer assigns a
drive letter, does a format and your good to go.
You should be able to leave the jumper on cable select, since it isn't going 
onto the same plug 
as the C drive
Windows machines need to format new drives before they can be used
I would expect that it would be similar on a MAC, though it might be easier as 
well.

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Re: More GFM photos

[Scott Loveless]

Cotty wrote:
> On 24/6/08, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> I didn't say they were any goood.
> 
> 
> Actually the shot of Doug is excellent.
> 
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Re: More GFM photos

[Cotty]

On 24/6/08, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I didn't say they were any goood.


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Re: More GFM photos

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Cotty wrote:
> On 24/6/08, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> Put up 5 more at http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/GFM2008  No need
>> for critiques or anything like that, unless you really, really want to.
>>  Just a few more snaps of the regulars.
> 
> 
> Coool thanks.
> 
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On 24/6/08, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Put up 5 more at http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/GFM2008  No need
>for critiques or anything like that, unless you really, really want to.
>  Just a few more snaps of the regulars.


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More GFM photos

[Scott Loveless]

Put up 5 more at http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/GFM2008  No need 
for critiques or anything like that, unless you really, really want to. 
  Just a few more snaps of the regulars.

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Re: On the issue of blown highlights!

[Cotty]

On 24/6/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I can see in the slides I've got some
>bikini-clad girlfriends on the beach with some suntan lotion blown
>highlights


Whoa - she said 'highlights'...


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Re: LBA vintage T-Novoflexar 400/5.6

[Toine]

I remember myself as a teenager looking in the brochures with great
envy. In the last years I have collected all the novoflexars (400mm
600mm 560mm Telyt) just for fun (they can be found for very little
money), The T was missing in my collection. The standard 400 and 600
novoflexars are nice not great, the telyt and T are much better. A
small modification on the pigriff and the Telyt and T are 100% usable
on digital including SR.

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 8:27 PM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> They had a reputation for being fast, (for their focal length) and very
> sharp in the center of their image circle, and much less so at the edges
> and in the corners.  A friend in College, (University to non Americans),
> had a Novoflex 600mm he used in a Nikon F to photograph "critters".  The
> slides and negatives he produced bore that out.  I was a bit envious of
> that lens.  Using it on an APS-C digital just simply plays to it's strength.
>
> Toine wrote:
>> I have found a very old T-Novoflexar 400/5.6 (around 1970?). 3 lens
>> elements, other novoflexars are basic 2 lens achromats. This lens is
>> amazing. some quick samples from the garden:
>>
>> http://www.repiuk.nl/peso
>>
>> All at 5.6 or 8.0
>>
>> Toine
>>
>>
>
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Re: Pentax warranty work for online-purchased item - what's needed?

[Charles Robinson]

On Jun 23, 2008, at 11:52, David J Brooks wrote:

> Yes, just do that. I have never sent in the cards, Nikon or Pentax,
> but if service is needed, they just want the receipt.
>

I just packed it and shipped it out today.  (sniffle).  Back to the  
relatively lightweight Tamron 28-75 as the day-to-day lens now.  Man,  
that thing looks (and feels) small after using the 16-50 for a couple  
of months!

  -Charles

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Re: PESO - Vantage in the Sun

[Ken Waller]

Nice capture Knarf. It could do without the blown out URH corner tho.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PESO - Vantage in the Sun


> http://tinyurl.com/6n9swq
>
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SF-TZvFR7gI/CVY/JbD0zQBxmHE/s1600-h/jun_23_08+001.jpg
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> Comments welcome.
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Re: Veal 1 & Veal 2

[Ken Waller]

Nice capture, but the blank sky doesn't add anything - it detracts IMHO.

Kenneth Waller
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Subject: Veal 1 & Veal 2


> G'day All,
> 
> Another from my long weekend trip down south. The chalets where we
> stayed, were located on a working farm.
> 
> While on a walk around the paddocks these guys paid a visit (~180kb)
> 
> 
> K20D, DA* 16-50mm f2.8 @ 50mm, 1/40 @ f6.3, ISO 400
> 
> Comments welcome.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
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RE: GFM 2008 - The premiere

[Bob W]

> > 
> > I'll dub on some Rolf Harris just for you!
> 
> Chuck some indigenous people politics in, instead.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7cbkxn4G8U
> or
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wkkuaTvIso
> 

which one's Rolf?

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Last call for the July PUG

[Scott Loveless]

Last call, folks.  Sports and Action photos.  http://www.pdmlpug.org/

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Re: Firefox Bug?

[pnstenquist]

Thanks Paul. I'll try it when I get home. I wonder if I'll have to remake my 
page in IWeb after the bug fix? Or maybe i can just resave and upload it again?
Paul
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> Paul -
> 
> According to the latest posting on the link Scott gave you there was an 
> error in the patch script that has been fixed.  Version 1.3 of the patch 
> should be downloadable now.  Give it a try again.
> 
> -p
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> Scott Loveless wrote:
> > Paul Stenquist wrote:
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> >> of my machines. It reports an error in retrieving files each time it  
> >> runs.
> >> Paul
> > 
> > Well that sucks.  There's an info link on that page.  Looks like the 
> > problem stems from a non-standard javascript library and the Firefox 
> > developers refusing to support it.  Bad situation.
> > 
> >> On Jun 23, 2008, at 10:14 PM, Scott Loveless wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hey, Paul!
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Re: PESOs: leaves

[P. J. Alling]

They look sharp, (at least as well as can be judged from web sized 
scans), pretty much what I'd expect from the predecessor of the SMC T 
135 f2.5 and SMC P 135 f2.5.  The exposure seems to be alright but the 
images are bit higher contrast than I'd like for showing just what the 
lens is capable of.

Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote:
> http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk6/portikla/ZOOM0027.jpg
>
> http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk6/portikla/ZOOM0028.jpg
>
> http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk6/portikla/ZOOM0029.jpg
>
> all shot with 135 2.5 super tak with a spotmatic spII on pan400 ilford film.
> opinions?
>
> luka
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Re: Help! lens coating separating?

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2008/06/24 Tue PM 06:12:17 GMT
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: Re: Help! lens coating separating?
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> Looks like it's not a quick fix. :(
> I called Tamron and they said that they couldn't give me a quote but 
> that it might be somewhere around $200-350 to fix.
> So I guess it's back to the seller (unless he'll give me a refund on the 
> price of the repair).
> 
> Anyone got one of these they want to sell me? Or a KA Tamron-Pentax 
> adaptall mount (preferably the KA version)?
> 
> Thanks again,
> Francis

That price sounds like a bargain to me.  I was quoted £160 for a lenscap/hood a 
long time ago.

KA adaptors are notoriously variable in quality.


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Re: LBA vintage T-Novoflexar 400/5.6

[P. J. Alling]

They had a reputation for being fast, (for their focal length) and very 
sharp in the center of their image circle, and much less so at the edges 
and in the corners.  A friend in College, (University to non Americans), 
had a Novoflex 600mm he used in a Nikon F to photograph "critters".  The 
slides and negatives he produced bore that out.  I was a bit envious of 
that lens.  Using it on an APS-C digital just simply plays to it's strength.

Toine wrote:
> I have found a very old T-Novoflexar 400/5.6 (around 1970?). 3 lens
> elements, other novoflexars are basic 2 lens achromats. This lens is
> amazing. some quick samples from the garden:
>
> http://www.repiuk.nl/peso
>
> All at 5.6 or 8.0
>
> Toine
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PESOs: leaves

[Luka Knezevic-Strika]

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk6/portikla/ZOOM0027.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk6/portikla/ZOOM0028.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk6/portikla/ZOOM0029.jpg

all shot with 135 2.5 super tak with a spotmatic spII on pan400 ilford film.
opinions?

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Re: PESO - Dogwood

[Scott Loveless]

Francis wrote:
> Lovely shot Scott.
> Nice tones and a good composition.
> It looks grainy for a 645? Is that the scan?
> 
Thanks, Francis.  The film is Kodak EPL slide film, cross processed in 
C-41.  The grain is on the film.

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Re: Help! lens coating separating?

[Francis]

Thanks for your help.
Looks like it's not a quick fix. :(
I called Tamron and they said that they couldn't give me a quote but 
that it might be somewhere around $200-350 to fix.
So I guess it's back to the seller (unless he'll give me a refund on the 
price of the repair).

Anyone got one of these they want to sell me? Or a KA Tamron-Pentax 
adaptall mount (preferably the KA version)?

Thanks again,
Francis

www.islandlight.ca




William Robb wrote:
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Francis"
> Subject: Help! lens coating separating?
>
>
>   
>> Bonjour my fine friends!
>> I just bought a Tamron 300mm f2.8 through ebay. But there's something
>> fishy with it. One of the elements has a blueish water-mark type blemish
>> near one edge. Is this the coating separating? Is it likely to increase?
>> can it be fixed?
>>
>> Here are some pictures of the problem:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/mr-fm/2604713874/
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/mr-fm/2603886689
>>
>> The ebay seller seems to be straight and is willing to refund me. But
>> I've been trying to get my hands one of these lenses for three months so
>> I'm not that thrilled with the idea.
>>
>> I would be very grateful for any wisdom or suggestions on the matter.
>> 
>
> I'd take the refund. That is an compound element starting to seperate. I 
> suspect it is 
> reparable, but it would be a factory repair (sent to Japan), and will not be 
> cheap.
>
> William Robb 
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Re: PESO - Dogwood

[Francis]

Lovely shot Scott.
Nice tones and a good composition.
It looks grainy for a 645? Is that the scan?

Cheers,
Francis

www.islandlight.ca



Scott Loveless wrote:
> At least I think it's a dogwood.  Please correct me if I'm wrong. 
> 
>
> P645, 120 Macro, EPL converted to B&W.
>
> Comments/critiques appreciated.
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LBA vintage T-Novoflexar 400/5.6

[Toine]

I have found a very old T-Novoflexar 400/5.6 (around 1970?). 3 lens
elements, other novoflexars are basic 2 lens achromats. This lens is
amazing. some quick samples from the garden:

http://www.repiuk.nl/peso

All at 5.6 or 8.0

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Re: On the issue of blown highlights!

[Doug Brewer]

Christine Aguila wrote:
> Hi Bruce:  Your mention of slides prompted me to go through a big box of 
> slides that I shot over 20 years ago with the Pentax MX--slides of a 
> girlfriend trip to Cancun & Florida--among other stuff.  I haven't looked at 
> these slides for years--barely recognize myself!  Anyway, yes, biasing away 
> from Highlights--yes, very key. I can see in the slides I've got some 
> bikini-clad girlfriends on the beach with some suntan lotion blown 
> highlights--made me giggle.  Anyway, thanks for the comments & advice. 
> Cheers, Christine

pics or it didn't happen.

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Re: Firefox Bug?

[Paul Sorenson]

Paul -

According to the latest posting on the link Scott gave you there was an 
error in the patch script that has been fixed.  Version 1.3 of the patch 
should be downloadable now.  Give it a try again.

-p

Scott Loveless wrote:
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>> This is the right idea, but the patch doesn't work. Tried it on both  
>> of my machines. It reports an error in retrieving files each time it  
>> runs.
>> Paul
> 
> Well that sucks.  There's an info link on that page.  Looks like the 
> problem stems from a non-standard javascript library and the Firefox 
> developers refusing to support it.  Bad situation.
> 
>> On Jun 23, 2008, at 10:14 PM, Scott Loveless wrote:
>>
>>> Hey, Paul!
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>>> http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/27819/fix-iweb-and-firefox-3
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On the issue of blown highlights!: A collection of the responses for easy printout for anyone interested--especially those just starting out like me

[Christine Aguila]

Excellent advice for those starting out like me.  Here it is for easy 
printout!  Cheers, Christine



Paul S:



I think that for street photography, the matrix metering of the K10D will 
work quite well most of the time. You could spot meter a tone that's close 
to grey card reflectivity (green grass works well as do dirty sidewalks:-), 
but locking in a meter reading only works if the light is constant. 
Frequently, when shooting on the street, you'll get a mix of light that may 
vary depending on which way you aim the camera.

The matrix meter tends to expose for the highlights. I find I frequently 
have to bump up the midrange and sometimes the shadows as well, while the 
highlights are usually close to right on.

In terms of visualizing, I think you're doing very well. I guess the only 
recommendation I might make is to develop a certain midset. Don't look for 
something to shoot. Look for a great picture, regardless of the subject.



Bob W:



Rather than trying to recognise mid-tones (which you will eventually
be able to do quite easily), you might want to try incident metering
and manual exposure. In situations such as you describe, when I know
the meter is going to go haywire, I tend to switch to manual. Now with
a digital camera it's also convenient to check the histogram to get an
idea of where everything is, and to adjust exposure accordingly if you
want to shift everything further to the right.

Some useful common midtones are pavements, grass, brick walls,
slightly faded denim, blue sky, rhino skin, bits of pigeon,
rainclouds.

I have quite a useful book called The Perfect Exposure by Jim
Zuckerman. Mostly he just tells you to use an incident meter, but
there is a chapter in which he shows a number of colour photographs
and points out what he used as the middle tone. You might be able to
find a copy in your library.



William Robb



This is, I think, the best metering strategy.
Meter the brightest area of the scene that you want to hold detail and set 
it to Zone VIII
(meter it and open up 3 stops) The shadows will fall where they fall, but 
usually they will fall
within the range of the sensor.
I spent years trying to meter for the shadows before I read in a Zone VI 
newsletter about Fred
Picker's method. He said that rying to find the deepest shadow in a scene 
can be frustratingly
difficult, but findong the brightest point is relatively easy. Now he was a 
landscape guy, not a
gentrified street photographer, so for him, the brightest part of the scene 
was usually clouds.
I would think that on the street, the brightest parts of the scene will be 
building walls and
the like.
Just remember that specular reflections are going to be blown out no matter 
what you do, so
ignore them for metering.



JOC



with digital, frames are almost free, bracket on 1/2 stop critical
shots with RAW and solve the probems later.



Godfrey:



On Jun 23, 2008, at 11:10 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:
> 1) I'm having a devil of a time with blown highlights, especially in
> challenging lighting situations.  I've been trying to teach myself
> the Zone
> System--and I think I've got the gist of it.  But for street
> photography,
> things get a bit rushed, so, as I've learned, I should quickly spot
> meter
> for a mid-tone, lock in exposure, then reframe, focus & shoot.


Digital camera exposure is different from film exposure because the
characteristic behavior of a digital sensor is fundamentally
different from film.

- Highlight values run into the hard wall of sensor saturation when
the sensor runs out of numbers to quantize the incoming energy
level ... there's no "shoulder" or slope involved, when the energy
level received by a photosite in a 12bit sensor hits the integer 4095
after going through the A->D converter, there is no more energy it
can report and it simply gives the maximum value.

- The minimum exposure threshold boundary is soft: it's a matter of
the actual analog DR of the sensor vs how much noise you find
acceptable to set where you put the black point. Compared to film,
it's a much "softer" slope because you can determine from frame to
frame what you feel is important.

That said, on average, correct exposure for both tends to be fairly
close, what you need to be conscious of is the sensor's dynamic range
given whether you are capturing in RAW  vs JPEG mode, and at what ISO
sensitivity setting.

I measured the K10D's DR with my standard test (which has built into
it various of my assumptions about what I consider a useable black
point signal/noise ratio...) and found that it provides in RAW
capture mode a range of 11 to 9 stops working range from ISO 100 to
1600. Yes, DR decreases as ISO increases and there's not much you can
do about it.

For this reason, the methodology I find most useful sith digital
capture, considering Zone System, is to meter for the Zone IX
highlights, not the Zone V midtones, and to consider what are the
important highlights with the sensor's dynamic range in mind. O

Re: GFM 2008 - The premiere

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2008/06/24 Tue PM 05:01:46 GMT
> To: pentax list 
> Subject: Re: GFM 2008 - The premiere
> 
> On 24/6/08, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >Send it on.
> 
> I'll dub on some Rolf Harris just for you!

Chuck some indigenous people politics in, instead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7cbkxn4G8U
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wkkuaTvIso


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Prospec/Ricoh Lens Modification

[Collin R Brendemuehl]

http://evangelicalperspective.blogspot.com/2008/06/using-pentax-digital-with-prospec-pka.html
 



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Re: On the issue of blown highlights!

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Bruce:  Your mention of slides prompted me to go through a big box of 
slides that I shot over 20 years ago with the Pentax MX--slides of a 
girlfriend trip to Cancun & Florida--among other stuff.  I haven't looked at 
these slides for years--barely recognize myself!  Anyway, yes, biasing away 
from Highlights--yes, very key. I can see in the slides I've got some 
bikini-clad girlfriends on the beach with some suntan lotion blown 
highlights--made me giggle.  Anyway, thanks for the comments & advice. 
Cheers, Christine


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> Hello Christine,
>
> I've found that NOT blowing the highlights works best .  Seems
> that you are treading into territory that has long been one of the
> most important to photographers from way back.  If you ever shot
> slide film, the digital issues would feel similar - not exactly the
> same, but the range and exactness are much the same.  Print film
> allowed us to get rather sloppy.
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Bruce
>
>
> Monday, June 23, 2008, 11:10:52 AM, you wrote:
>
> CA> Hi Folks:
>
> CA> 1) I'm having a devil of a time with blown highlights, especially in
> CA> challenging lighting situations.  I've been trying to teach myself the 
> Zone
> CA> System--and I think I've got the gist of it.  But for street 
> photography,
> CA> things get a bit rushed, so, as I've learned, I should quickly spot 
> meter
> CA> for a mid-tone, lock in exposure, then reframe, focus & shoot. What do 
> you
> CA> guys consider to be mid-tones in color?
>
> CA> 2) I'm trying to train my eye to visualize, but it's slow going. Any 
> tips
> CA> for faster learning?
>
> CA> 3) Also, I've been metering for highlights more, then using Lightroom 
> to
> CA> bump up the shadows, which seems to work, but does anyone have any 
> other
> CA> suggestions?
>
> CA> 4) Also, virtually 99.9% of the time I have to bump up the "Lights" 
> in
> CA> Lightroom to anywhere from +10 - +39.  No bid deal, but is there 
> something I
> CA> should be doing in-camera to avoid this.  I wonder if the K20D, with 
> it's
> CA> EDR, eliminates this?  Any thoughts.  I'm actually thinking of making 
> a
> CA> develop preset to do the things I seem to do repeatedly when 
> processing in
> CA> Lightroom, but thought I'd touch base here 1st.
>
> CA> Big cheers, Christine
>
>
>
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Re: Firefox Bug?

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Paul Stenquist wrote:
> This is the right idea, but the patch doesn't work. Tried it on both  
> of my machines. It reports an error in retrieving files each time it  
> runs.
> Paul

Well that sucks.  There's an info link on that page.  Looks like the 
problem stems from a non-standard javascript library and the Firefox 
developers refusing to support it.  Bad situation.

> On Jun 23, 2008, at 10:14 PM, Scott Loveless wrote:
> 
>> Hey, Paul!
>>
>> http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/27819/fix-iweb-and-firefox-3
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Re: PESO - Passing Cars (Spadina Line)

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frank theriault wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/3t49tz
> 
> http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SGDlfxMq1II/CWk/forxzyMEh_k/s1600-h/jun_24_08+002.jpg
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> Comments always welcome.
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Re: PESO - Bree

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Christine Aguila wrote:
> Hi Scott:  I can't really comment  on the processing etc since I know 
> nothing about what it is you tried to do with the cross-processing.  I'm 
> intrigued by Bree's tattoos though.  You should do a photographic study of 
> her tattoo--seriously!  I actually like tattoos; I'd have a little one 
> somewhere indiscreet, but I'm too chicken to go through the tattooing part, 
> heard it's somewhat painful.  Cheers, Christine

Thanks, Christine.  Bree and I are currently tossing around ideas for a 
portrait session.  We haven't really discussed focusing on her tattoos, 
but I'll bring it up the next time I talk to her.

>> http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/photo#5215184476565989666
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Re: PESO - Dogwood

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Christine Aguila wrote:
> Scott:  I like your picture very much, but I do think Paul has a good idea 
> about cloning out the petals in the background.  BW looks very nice to me. 
> Cheers, Christine
> 
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Re: PESO - Dogwood

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Tim Bray wrote:
>> 

> You know, that's a lovely composition, but I have a mental block about
> nature shots, in particular botanicals, in B&W.  I think it's probably
> a failing in myself rather than in photographers' culture.  I just
> can't understand why you'd capture a flower and then take its colour
> away.  Lots of people do, so I'm clearly in a minority here.  Oh well.

FWIW, those petal were white to begin with.  The only real color was a 
tiny bit of green in the center.  But I know what you mean about the 
mental block.  B&W foliage has become a bit of cliche the last few 
years.  I got turned on to Paul Caponigro's work several years ago, and 
it seems that everyone and their brother is trying something similar 
these days.  But I like the general look of them.

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Re: On the issue of blown highlights!

[Christine Aguila]

Thanks, Ken.  I forget to check the individuals sometimes.  Good to be 
reminded of this!  Big thanks.  Cheers, Christine


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Subject: Re: On the issue of blown highlights!


>I haven't seen anyone mention this on this thread so I thought I'd add my
> $.02
>
> Don't forget your in-camera histogram. I usually check mine at the start 
> of
> a series of the same basic shot. Check not only the RGB combo but also the
> individual Red, Green & Blue channels. I've gotten shot with blown out 
> reds
> that weren't indicated in the combo histo.
>
> Bruce's advice about biasing away from the max highlight is well taken. 
> Its
> what I've done for years of slide shooting.
>
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: On the issue of blown highlights!
>
>
>> Hello Christine,
>>
>> I've found that NOT blowing the highlights works best .  Seems
>> that you are treading into territory that has long been one of the
>> most important to photographers from way back.  If you ever shot
>> slide film, the digital issues would feel similar - not exactly the
>> same, but the range and exactness are much the same.  Print film
>> allowed us to get rather sloppy.
>>
>> -- 
>> Best regards,
>> Bruce
>>
>>
>> Monday, June 23, 2008, 11:10:52 AM, you wrote:
>>
>> CA> Hi Folks:
>>
>> CA> 1) I'm having a devil of a time with blown highlights, especially in
>> CA> challenging lighting situations.  I've been trying to teach myself 
>> the
>> Zone
>> CA> System--and I think I've got the gist of it.  But for street
>> photography,
>> CA> things get a bit rushed, so, as I've learned, I should quickly spot
>> meter
>> CA> for a mid-tone, lock in exposure, then reframe, focus & shoot. What 
>> do
>> you
>> CA> guys consider to be mid-tones in color?
>>
>> CA> 2) I'm trying to train my eye to visualize, but it's slow going. Any
>> tips
>> CA> for faster learning?
>>
>> CA> 3) Also, I've been metering for highlights more, then using Lightroom
>> to
>> CA> bump up the shadows, which seems to work, but does anyone have any
>> other
>> CA> suggestions?
>>
>> CA> 4) Also, virtually 99.9% of the time I have to bump up the "Lights"
>> in
>> CA> Lightroom to anywhere from +10 - +39.  No bid deal, but is there
>> something I
>> CA> should be doing in-camera to avoid this.  I wonder if the K20D, with
>> it's
>> CA> EDR, eliminates this?  Any thoughts.  I'm actually thinking of making
>> a
>> CA> develop preset to do the things I seem to do repeatedly when
>> processing in
>> CA> Lightroom, but thought I'd touch base here 1st.
>>
>> CA> Big cheers, Christine
>
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Re: PESO - Dogwood

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> It appears to be a dogwood. Nice composition. I might try cloning out
> all the background petals here and just leave the two blooms. Could
> be cool. Paul
>> 
>> 
Thanks, Paul.  Much appreciated.  I typically don't remove stuff that's 
in the photo, but I'll give it a try tonight and post the result.

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Re: PESO: Squash

[Jack Davis]

Thanks, Tim! Were you ever lucky enough to get the deep fried blossom which 
contained a bumble bee? Mmm!?)

Jack


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> From: Tim Bray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: PESO: Squash
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 10:08 AM
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 8:20 AM, Jack Davis
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The poppy talk got me in my normally 30 min flower
> mode, so I'll relieved it by shooting this.
> > Zucchini blossom from wife's veg garden.
> 
> Mmm... tasty; lovely shot.  And hey, a reason for zucchini
> to exist.  -T
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Re: Veal 1 & Veal 2 (link updated)

[Christine Aguila]

P.S.  to King Silly:  Given your title, I thought we were going to get 2 
pieces of veal on the plate, since you've been known to photograph stuff 
around your meal table :-)  Cheers, Christine


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> Sorry I did it again. Updated the pic which f&$ked up the link
>
>
> G'day All,
>
> Another from my long weekend trip down south. The chalets where we
> stayed, were located on a working farm.
>
> While on a walk around the paddocks these guys paid a visit (~180kb)
>
> 
> K20D, DA* 16-50mm f2.8 @ 50mm, 1/40 @ f6.3, ISO 400
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> Comments welcome.
>
> Cheers,
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Re: Veal 1 & Veal 2 (link updated)

[Christine Aguila]

Dave:  I like your picture very much.  Very pleasing & quietly playful & 
funny composition & subject/content.  Nice work.  Cheers, Christine


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> Sorry I did it again. Updated the pic which f&$ked up the link
>
>
> G'day All,
>
> Another from my long weekend trip down south. The chalets where we
> stayed, were located on a working farm.
>
> While on a walk around the paddocks these guys paid a visit (~180kb)
>
> 
> K20D, DA* 16-50mm f2.8 @ 50mm, 1/40 @ f6.3, ISO 400
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> Comments welcome.
>
> Cheers,
>
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Re: Squash

[Jack Davis]

Thanks for commenting, Christine!

Jack


--- On Tue, 6/24/08, Christine Aguila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Christine Aguila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Squash
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 9:46 AM
> Jack:  Texture is really great in this  Very pleasing image!
>  Cheers, 
> Christine
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
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> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 10:20 AM
> Subject: PESO: Squash
> 
> 
> > The poppy talk got me in my normally 30 min flower
> mode, so I'll relieved 
> > it by shooting this.
> > Zucchini blossom from wife's veg garden. A couple
> days ago she picked a 
> > zucchini which had been missed. It was about 18"
> long and must have 
> > weighed something like 4 or 5 lbs. How big are your
> zucchini's, Paul? 
> > Actual dew drops, by the way. ;)
> >
> > Jack
> >
> > Any comments welcome.
> >
> > K10D, DA 16~45, f/19, 1/6 sec, ISO 100, 45mm
> >
> >
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=314
> >
> >
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Re: PESO - Bree

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Scott:  I can't really comment  on the processing etc since I know 
nothing about what it is you tried to do with the cross-processing.  I'm 
intrigued by Bree's tattoos though.  You should do a photographic study of 
her tattoo--seriously!  I actually like tattoos; I'd have a little one 
somewhere indiscreet, but I'm too chicken to go through the tattooing part, 
heard it's somewhat painful.  Cheers, Christine


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> Bree and her dog, Sacha.
> http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/photo#5215184476565989666
>
> P645, 120 Macro, Kodak EPL cross processed.  EPL does not cross process
> well.  I've had much better luck with Astia.  Took a bit of fiddling to
> get it to this point, and it's really grainy.
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Re: PESO - Dogwood

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Scott:  I like your picture very much, but I do think Paul has a good idea 
about cloning out the petals in the background.  BW looks very nice to me. 
Cheers, Christine


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> At least I think it's a dogwood.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.
> 
>
> P645, 120 Macro, EPL converted to B&W.
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Re: PESO: Squash

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On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 8:20 AM, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The poppy talk got me in my normally 30 min flower mode, so I'll relieved it 
> by shooting this.
> Zucchini blossom from wife's veg garden.

Mmm... tasty; lovely shot.  And hey, a reason for zucchini to exist.  -T

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Re: PESO - Dogwood

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On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At least I think it's a dogwood.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.
> 
>
> P645, 120 Macro, EPL converted to B&W.
>
> Comments/critiques appreciated.

You know, that's a lovely composition, but I have a mental block about
nature shots, in particular botanicals, in B&W.  I think it's probably
a failing in myself rather than in photographers' culture.  I just
can't understand why you'd capture a flower and then take its colour
away.  Lots of people do, so I'm clearly in a minority here.  Oh well.
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Re: PESO - Dogwood

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It appears to be a dogwood. 
Nice composition. I might try cloning out all the background petals here and 
just leave the two blooms. Could be cool.
Paul
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> 
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> P645, 120 Macro, EPL converted to B&W.
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Re: Feeding Frenzy

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Very nicely frenzied, Brian.  Well, bugger the blown highlights, I enjoyed 
seeing this anyway.  Cheers, Christine


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> Hi all
>
> Thanks for the the comments on my previous PESO - I'll respond in a
> separate post.
>
> Dave's snippet from "Finding Nemo" seems to fit this image a bit
> better
>
> http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/92227/Feeding_Frenzy.html
>
> Yes there are blown highlights (bugger!) but, notwithstanding, this is
> scary stuff!
>
>
> And here's the 'Finding Nemo' clip, for those who missed it:
>
> http://www.moviesoundclips.net/movies1/findingnemo/mine.mp3
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
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Re: GFM 2008 - The premiere

[Cotty]

On 24/6/08, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Send it on.

I'll dub on some Rolf Harris just for you!

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Re: Success!

[pnstenquist]

I first shot the poppy on manual exposure because I was using the Vivitar 
Series 1 macro, an ancient but excellent 90/2.5 without any electrical 
connects. I merely set the stop, aimed at some green grass and pushed the 
button. However, I used the lightsphere and 540 flash for this shot. Since 
flash PTTL doesn't work with manual lenses (you get a full power flash), I just 
started at a guesstimated f11/ 1/125th. I think I ended up shooting it at f8, 
1/180th. (I bumped the shutter speed up to cut down on ambient exposure and 
darken the background grass a bit more.)
Paul
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From: "Christine  Aguila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Congrats, Paul.  & I like the photo.  What is the trick to metering yellow 
> flowers?  Mine always suck.  Cheers, Christine
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 10:38 PM
> Subject: PESO: Success!
> 
> 
> >I doubt that anyone remembers, but early this spring I asked about
> > wild California poppies and whether or not they could be cultivated
> > here in the midwest. My best friend, who lives in Santa Barbara, had
> > given me some seeds, and I was determined to grow some flowers. Well,
> > my California Poppies are blooming-- several months later than they
> > bloom out there on the coast. But they're looking good. I shot a pic
> > of one with the K20D, the Vivitar 90/2.5 macro, the 540 flash and the
> > lightsphere in dome up mode. Not a great pic, but it does confirm
> > that I have indeed grown a wild California Poppy way back here in
> > Michigan.
> > Paul
> >
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7441564
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Re: PESO - Passing Cars (Spadina Line)

[Christine Aguila]

Very nice, Frank.  I like the reflections--as a general rule, reflections in 
windows don't bother me.  I do, however, wish transit authorities here and 
abroad would wash the windows of the trains more often :-)  I was taking 
some shots on the EL the other day & I've got some very nice sharp dirty 
window streak lines in the frames.  Ugh. Anyway,  another very nice train 
shot, Frank.  Nice rendering as well.  Cheers, Christine


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Subject: PESO - Passing Cars (Spadina Line)


> http://tinyurl.com/3t49tz
>
> http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SGDlfxMq1II/CWk/forxzyMEh_k/s1600-h/jun_24_08+002.jpg
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> Comments always welcome.
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: PESO - Vantage in the Sun

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Frank:  Excellent rendering & nice abstract composition. Light is great too! 
Cheers, Christine


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> http://tinyurl.com/6n9swq
>
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SF-TZvFR7gI/CVY/JbD0zQBxmHE/s1600-h/jun_23_08+001.jpg
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Re: PESO 2008 - 92-97 - GDG

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Godfrey:  I like Table Setting & Shrubbery best.  Godfrey, you know, you 
really have a talent for making metal in bw rendering glisten in the best 
sense.  Amazing.  The rendering on sidewalk setting I find excellent as 
well.  Nice stuff!  Cheers, Christine


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Subject: PESO 2008 - 92-97 - GDG


>A few photos, in no particular order, that I've been working on since
> the recent California heat wave stopped hammering on me ...
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/95-places.jpg
> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/93-youth.jpg
> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/97-leaf.jpg
> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/94-sidewalk_setting.jpg
> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/92-hide.jpg
> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/96-shrubbery.jpg
>
> Comments, questions and critique always appreciated.
>
> enjoy
> Godfrey
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Re: Peso African Violet

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Dave:  That's a very pleasing picture:  gentle & relaxing.  Colors very 
inviting.  Looks like the K10D is back on track.  I'm happy for you! 
Cheers, Christine


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Subject: Peso African Violet


> One from the DA F 2.8 and K10D retest.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/2607967592/
>
> Hand held at f3.2 and SR on.
>
> The focal point is the second yellow pistol?? from the right. Most of
> these are on the same plain
> and all look well focused.
>
> I did not do this test with a tripod, but wanted to see what real
> field shots would be like.
>
> I think its ok now.
>
> Dave
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Re: Squash

[Christine Aguila]

Jack:  Texture is really great in this  Very pleasing image!  Cheers, 
Christine


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Subject: PESO: Squash


> The poppy talk got me in my normally 30 min flower mode, so I'll relieved 
> it by shooting this.
> Zucchini blossom from wife's veg garden. A couple days ago she picked a 
> zucchini which had been missed. It was about 18" long and must have 
> weighed something like 4 or 5 lbs. How big are your zucchini's, Paul? 
> Actual dew drops, by the way. ;)
>
> Jack
>
> Any comments welcome.
>
> K10D, DA 16~45, f/19, 1/6 sec, ISO 100, 45mm
>
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=314
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Re: Success!

[Christine Aguila]

Congrats, Paul.  & I like the photo.  What is the trick to metering yellow 
flowers?  Mine always suck.  Cheers, Christine


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Subject: PESO: Success!


>I doubt that anyone remembers, but early this spring I asked about
> wild California poppies and whether or not they could be cultivated
> here in the midwest. My best friend, who lives in Santa Barbara, had
> given me some seeds, and I was determined to grow some flowers. Well,
> my California Poppies are blooming-- several months later than they
> bloom out there on the coast. But they're looking good. I shot a pic
> of one with the K20D, the Vivitar 90/2.5 macro, the 540 flash and the
> lightsphere in dome up mode. Not a great pic, but it does confirm
> that I have indeed grown a wild California Poppy way back here in
> Michigan.
> Paul
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7441564
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Re: Chicago Cubs & White Sox Crosstown Game June 22, 2008

[Christine Aguila]

Thanks, Ken.  My Sox fan husband giggled at your Tigers comment. :-) Cheers, 
Christine


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Subject: Re: Chicago Cubs & White Sox Crosstown Game June 22, 2008


> Great shots.
>
> And thank you Cubs, your wins help move the Tigers a few games closer to
> first place!
>
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Christine Aguila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: GESO: Chicago Cubs & White Sox Crosstown Game June 22, 2008
>
>
>> Hi Gang:
>>
>> I made this for all my new PDML friends, but I also made this especially
>> for
>> folks who aren't from the U.S.  The Chicago Cubs & Sox had their 1st
>> cross-town series of the season at Wrigley Field, which is on the north
>> side
>> of Chicago; The White Sox are from the south side; the Cubs from the 
>> north
>> side.
>>
>>>From the rainbow to the 1st Wrigley sign represents my walk to the
>>>stadium.
>> The 1st Wrigley sign to the dog represents pictures made outside the
>> stadium.  The dog to the Monty Python storefront represents pictures made
>> across the street from the stadium.  The building owners across the 
>> street
>> have built bleachers on their rooftops & sell tickets.  From Monty Python
>> to
>> the last picture represents my walk back to the EL.
>>
>> I didn't have tickets to the game, but I wanted to get some shots around
>> the
>> park.  Oh, one last thing:  the couple with the cubs/sox jerseys are, in
>> fact, married.  I was gleeful when I spied them.  It was the shot I was
>> hoping for.  The rainbow is nice, but I got the portrait I was looking
>> for.
>>
>> Oh, & the brooms, which were everywhere, signify a desire for the Cubs to
>> sweep the series, which, in fact, they did.  Sorry, Paul
>>
>>
>> Folder with thumbnails
>> http://photo.net/photodb/slideshow?folder_id=843433
>>
>>
>>
>> Slideshow
>> http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=843433
>>
>> Cheers, Christine
>>
>>
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Re: Peso African Violet

[Jack Davis]

Beautiful delicate colors. Like your DOF choice.
Heavy lower right area and structure like background colors do detract 
marginally.

Jack


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> From: David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Peso African Violet
> To: "Pentax Discuss" , "Harry Bolton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
> "Barb Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Yvette Sheppard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
> "Sarah Bedford-James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 8:33 AM
> One from the DA F 2.8 and K10D retest.
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/2607967592/
> 
> Hand held at f3.2 and SR on.
> 
> The focal point is the second yellow pistol?? from the
> right. Most of
> these are on the same plain
> and all look well focused.
> 
> I did not do this test with a tripod, but wanted to see
> what real
> field shots would be like.
> 
> I think its ok now.
> 
> Dave
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Re: Veal 1 & Veal 2

[Jack Davis]

Caption: "Fred, I told you, quit blowing in my ear and go back to 
sleep..animal"!

Jack


--- On Tue, 6/24/08, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Veal 1 & Veal 2
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 7:54 AM
> Yes, I saw the correct URL later.  I wasn't going to
> comment since I 
> didn't have anything constructive or even clever to
> say.  However I 
> guess I'll post dueling veal...
> 
> http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_veal.html
> 
>  From a couple of years ago.
> 
> David Savage wrote:
> > 2008/6/24 P. J. Alling
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >   
> >> Quoth Flickr: This photo is currently unavailable.
> >> 
> >
> > Flickr doesn't know what its talking about :-)
> >
> >
> 
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Dave
> >
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PESO - Dogwood

[Scott Loveless]

At least I think it's a dogwood.  Please correct me if I'm wrong. 


P645, 120 Macro, EPL converted to B&W.

Comments/critiques appreciated.

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Re: OT: Configuring a second internal hard drive (mac g4)?

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Thanks Mat. I guess I should take a look at the startup drive when I get it out 
and see if that's configured for cable select or master. I installed that drive 
myself a year or so ago without touching it. So it's set to whatever 
configuration the Seagate drives ship with.
Paul
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> On 6/24/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I've run out of hard drive space on all but my startup drive, so it's time 
> > to 
> add more. I have > four firewire drives on my desk already, and I still have 
> an 
> empty second drive bay in my
> > dual 1.25 G4 Mac. So I bought a 750 gig IDE  ATA-6 Seagate Barracuda, and 
> > I'm 
> going to > install it internally in the top half of the lower drive bay. 
> ($138 
> at 4allmemory.com). Do I
> > have to do anything to configure the new drive so the Mac knows it's not 
> > the 
> startup
> > drive? I saw some mention of "jumpers" in an on line article, but it wasn't 
> clear. I'm hoping > someone here can tell me if I need to do any more than 
> screw 
> it into the bay and connect > it to the second ribbon plug.
> 
> You should be able to leave the drive jumpers in the "cable select"
> position and have it work. That has worked for my G4 here at work, and
> my G5 at home.
> 
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Re: OT: Configuring a second internal hard drive (mac g4)?

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On 6/24/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've run out of hard drive space on all but my startup drive, so it's time to 
> add more. I have > four firewire drives on my desk already, and I still have 
> an empty second drive bay in my
> dual 1.25 G4 Mac. So I bought a 750 gig IDE  ATA-6 Seagate Barracuda, and I'm 
> going to > install it internally in the top half of the lower drive bay. 
> ($138 at 4allmemory.com). Do I
> have to do anything to configure the new drive so the Mac knows it's not the 
> startup
> drive? I saw some mention of "jumpers" in an on line article, but it wasn't 
> clear. I'm hoping > someone here can tell me if I need to do any more than 
> screw it into the bay and connect > it to the second ribbon plug.

You should be able to leave the drive jumpers in the "cable select"
position and have it work. That has worked for my G4 here at work, and
my G5 at home.

-Mat

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Re: PESO: Pecking Order

[David J Brooks]

Good eye. Like the lines the birds form

Dave

On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Brian Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all
>
> These pelicans and gulls get a free feed of fish scraps every day from a
> seafood restaurant on the waterfront.  It turns into a frenzy of
> snapping beaks and flapping wings with the gulls not really getting
> their fair share (or any share, for that matter).
>
> This is the calm before the storm.
>
> Comments appreciated.
>
>
> http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/92164/Pecking_Order.html
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
> Brian Walters
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Peso African Violet

[David J Brooks]

One from the DA F 2.8 and K10D retest.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/2607967592/

Hand held at f3.2 and SR on.

The focal point is the second yellow pistol?? from the right. Most of
these are on the same plain
and all look well focused.

I did not do this test with a tripod, but wanted to see what real
field shots would be like.

I think its ok now.

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