Re: PESO: Window Boxes
Rick, The flowers are wonderful and beautiful and well manicured. The composition and repeating pattern enhance the sense of good order. They work together to make this more than an extra-ordinary picture. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 7:49 PM, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This was near the Landhaus Diedert, a few km NW of central Wiesbaden along > the Lahnstrasse. > > --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Doug Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> From: Doug Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: PESO: Window Boxes >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >> Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 8:17 PM >> Rick Womer wrote: >> > I love what Europeans do with flowers, and what the >> flowers do for a rather plain facade. This is from a small >> town near Wiesbaden, Germany, near dusk. >> > >> > >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7528824&size=lg >> >> Excellent! Which small town was that? I might actually >> recognize it. >> I had a customer in Wiesbaden back in the mid 1990s and >> traveled in the >> area quite a bit, since I typically went for two to three >> weeks at a time. >> >> -- >> Thanks, >> DougF (KG4LMZ) >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link >> directly above and follow the directions. > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2008 - 114 - GDG
The natural an un-affected nature of the reactions make the picture. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:37 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Made me smile. Kids make great pics. > Paul > -- Original message -- > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> u ... >> >>http://homepage.mac.com/godders/114-friendlies.jpg >>I Only Look Friendly - This Cafe Life 2008 >>Panasonic DMC-L1 + Olympus ZD 11-22mm f/2.8-3.5 >>ISO 800 @ f/2.8 @ 1/6 second, fl=11mm >> >> Comments and critique always appreciated. >> >> enjoy >> Godfrey >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow >> the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2008 - 114 - GDG
Godfrey, I like the boys - they made me smile. His grin is infectious. Great moment. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:15 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > u ... > > http://homepage.mac.com/godders/114-friendlies.jpg > I Only Look Friendly - This Cafe Life 2008 > Panasonic DMC-L1 + Olympus ZD 11-22mm f/2.8-3.5 > ISO 800 @ f/2.8 @ 1/6 second, fl=11mm > > Comments and critique always appreciated. > > enjoy > Godfrey > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Is this feeder full?
Thanks Jack, Peter, Cotty, and Paul. It was a fun shot from the back yard. Squirrels are really very clever! Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:52 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What Cotty said. That's an excellent shot. Should be available through a > stock house. It lends itself to advertising ideas. > Paul > -- Original message -- > From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> On 9/7/08, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed: >> >> >from the back yard... It's easier to eat sunflower seeds from inside >> >the feeder. >> > >> >http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Squirrel/photo#5221146368259002546 >> > >> >K20D and old F70-210 zoom (the good one). >> > >> >Regards, Bob S. >> >> Nice shot Bob. That's the decisive moment, perfect. >> >> -- >> >> >> Cheers, >> Cotty >> >> >> ___/\__ >> || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche >> ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com >> _ >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow >> the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery
Although if everyone applied that strict a standard, the rejection rate would be astronomical. Which it is. Paul -- Original message -- From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I'm voting based on my true feeling about each image. > Guess I'm striving to help the judges even more. :) > > Jack > > > --- On Wed, 7/9/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery > > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > > Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 5:35 PM > > Wow. You're a tough customer. I don't vote any more. > > Not enough time in a day to do someone else's job. But > > for the brief time when I did a bit of voting I was doling > > out a yes for about one out of four. I figured the peer > > role was to narrow down the choices, eliminate the obvious > > bad stuff, then let the judges make the final choice. > > Paul > > -- Original message -- > > From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > I'm not surprised this question came up. ;) I > > meant, I may average something > > > like 1 "yes" vote out of every 45-50 total > > votes. > > > > > > Jack > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Mark Roberts > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Subject: Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery > > > > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 12:18 PM > > > > Jack Davis wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I'd guess my voting "yes" rate > > would > > > > average about 1 in 45-50.(?) > > > > > > > > Do you mean you vote Yes on 1 out of every 50 > > images that > > > > you vote on? > > > > Or that 1 out of every 50 of *your* images gets > > sufficient > > > > Yes votes to > > > > get in? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > > PDML@pdml.net > > > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the > > link > > > > directly above and follow the directions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > PDML@pdml.net > > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > > directly above and follow > > > the directions. > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > > directly above and follow the directions. > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Window Boxes
I like this very much, Rick! Often the trail of muddy water below the window spoils the effect, but certainly not in this case. Pristine and well composed. Jack --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: PESO: Window Boxes > To: pdml@pdml.net > Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 5:07 PM > I love what Europeans do with flowers, and what the flowers > do for a rather plain facade. This is from a small town > near Wiesbaden, Germany, near dusk. > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7528824&size=lg > > K10D, DA 50-200, ISO 560, f/8 @ 1/90, RAW via LR. > > Rick > > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery
I'm voting based on my true feeling about each image. Guess I'm striving to help the judges even more. :) Jack --- On Wed, 7/9/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 5:35 PM > Wow. You're a tough customer. I don't vote any more. > Not enough time in a day to do someone else's job. But > for the brief time when I did a bit of voting I was doling > out a yes for about one out of four. I figured the peer > role was to narrow down the choices, eliminate the obvious > bad stuff, then let the judges make the final choice. > Paul > -- Original message -- > From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I'm not surprised this question came up. ;) I > meant, I may average something > > like 1 "yes" vote out of every 45-50 total > votes. > > > > Jack > > > > > > --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Mark Roberts > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery > > > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > > > > Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 12:18 PM > > > Jack Davis wrote: > > > > > > > > I'd guess my voting "yes" rate > would > > > average about 1 in 45-50.(?) > > > > > > Do you mean you vote Yes on 1 out of every 50 > images that > > > you vote on? > > > Or that 1 out of every 50 of *your* images gets > sufficient > > > Yes votes to > > > get in? > > > > > > -- > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > PDML@pdml.net > > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the > link > > > directly above and follow the directions. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow > > the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Is this feeder full?
What Cotty said. That's an excellent shot. Should be available through a stock house. It lends itself to advertising ideas. Paul -- Original message -- From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On 9/7/08, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >from the back yard... It's easier to eat sunflower seeds from inside > >the feeder. > > > >http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Squirrel/photo#5221146368259002546 > > > >K20D and old F70-210 zoom (the good one). > > > >Regards, Bob S. > > Nice shot Bob. That's the decisive moment, perfect. > > -- > > > Cheers, > Cotty > > > ___/\__ > || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche > ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com > _ > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Is this feeder full?
On 9/7/08, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed: >from the back yard... It's easier to eat sunflower seeds from inside >the feeder. > >http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Squirrel/photo#5221146368259002546 > >K20D and old F70-210 zoom (the good one). > >Regards, Bob S. Nice shot Bob. That's the decisive moment, perfect. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 3:39 AM, Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have submitted more than just those 53. 2 of my images were > rejected the first time and now made it in and 3 of the 53 so far > have made it in. > > My take on the peer voting is that I am just trying to weed it down > for the final judges - not make the final judgement. > Kind of like a Grand Jury - just indicating whether it is worth > having a trial or not. The final jury is the judges - with a yes/no > in the gallery. As such, I will vote yes probably more than I would > if I were the final judge. I've always assumed that, and what I noticed in the past months as I submit a slew of photos of varying quality is that all of them stay forever in the "ready for review" status until finally being declined or accepted (mostly declined--I think I have 1/20 acceptance these days). I take pride that my "peers" must have voted all my photos in for them to stay 3 weeks before being declined by the final judges. -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Window Boxes
A nice composition. I like it. Paul -- Original message -- From: Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This was near the Landhaus Diedert, a few km NW of central Wiesbaden along > the > Lahnstrasse. > > --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Doug Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From: Doug Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: PESO: Window Boxes > > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > > Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 8:17 PM > > Rick Womer wrote: > > > I love what Europeans do with flowers, and what the > > flowers do for a rather plain facade. This is from a small > > town near Wiesbaden, Germany, near dusk. > > > > > > > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7528824&size=lg > > > > Excellent! Which small town was that? I might actually > > recognize it. > > I had a customer in Wiesbaden back in the mid 1990s and > > traveled in the > > area quite a bit, since I typically went for two to three > > weeks at a time. > > > > -- > > Thanks, > > DougF (KG4LMZ) > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > > directly above and follow the directions. > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2008 - 114 - GDG
Made me smile. Kids make great pics. Paul -- Original message -- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > u ... > >http://homepage.mac.com/godders/114-friendlies.jpg >I Only Look Friendly - This Cafe Life 2008 >Panasonic DMC-L1 + Olympus ZD 11-22mm f/2.8-3.5 >ISO 800 @ f/2.8 @ 1/6 second, fl=11mm > > Comments and critique always appreciated. > > enjoy > Godfrey > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO 2008 - 114 - GDG
u ... http://homepage.mac.com/godders/114-friendlies.jpg I Only Look Friendly - This Cafe Life 2008 Panasonic DMC-L1 + Olympus ZD 11-22mm f/2.8-3.5 ISO 800 @ f/2.8 @ 1/6 second, fl=11mm Comments and critique always appreciated. enjoy Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO 2008 - 114 - GDG
u ... http://homepage.mac.com/godders/114-friendlies.jpg I Only Look Friendly - This Cafe Life 2008 Panasonic DMC-L1 + Olympus ZD 11-22mm f/2.8-3.5 ISO 800 @ f/2.8 @ 1/6 second, fl=11mm Comments and critique always appreciated. enjoy Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Window Boxes
This was near the Landhaus Diedert, a few km NW of central Wiesbaden along the Lahnstrasse. --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Doug Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Doug Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: PESO: Window Boxes > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 8:17 PM > Rick Womer wrote: > > I love what Europeans do with flowers, and what the > flowers do for a rather plain facade. This is from a small > town near Wiesbaden, Germany, near dusk. > > > > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7528824&size=lg > > Excellent! Which small town was that? I might actually > recognize it. > I had a customer in Wiesbaden back in the mid 1990s and > traveled in the > area quite a bit, since I typically went for two to three > weeks at a time. > > -- > Thanks, > DougF (KG4LMZ) > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Fireworks NY 2008 I
That's a good suggestion. Or just using Lightroom and letting it do the whole job. G On Jul 9, 2008, at 5:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Color space settings in the camera are irrelevant when shooting > RAW. But what does matter is that your RAW converter and PhotoShop > version are on the same page. You'd be better of converting in > Elements and using that software for post. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Fireworks NY 2008 I
Color space settings in the camera are irrelevant when shooting RAW. But what does matter is that your RAW converter and PhotoShop version are on the same page. You'd be better of converting in Elements and using that software for post. Paul -- Original message -- From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I assumed that there was a problem with the color space, so I tried > using the Adobe RGB color space that I had good results from couple of > years ago. The *ist-Ds will only allow sRGB or Adobe RGB for recording > purposes, and I have the *ist-Ds set for Adobe RGB, (now I'm not sure > that makes any difference when shooting in RAW at this point). I opened > the file in RSE, modified color balance, enhanced the shadow contrast, > (so I had more or less nice black skys), double checked that everything > looked like I expected and exported a TIFF. It automatically opened in > Photoshop and it looked just like the image exported in ProPhoto color > space... I do understand color space at least a bit. I know that > ProPhoto haa a larger gamet why however does > AdobeRGB->AdobeRGB->AdobeRGB end up losing colors, especially since I > used that conversion method before with predictable results...In fact > why does it give exactly the same results as > AdobeRGB->ProPhoto->AdobeRGB. Based on the results I've seen from other > conversions I've done it shouldn't. > > Brian Walters wrote: > > Every time I think I understand colourspace conversions (or something > > else to do with digital capture), someone on the list shatters my > > illusions! Learning new things is one of the great benefits of PDML. > > > > Thanks for posting that explanation, Godfrey. > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Brian > > > > ++ > > Brian Walters > > Western Sydney Australia > > http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ > > > > > > > > On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 11:52:04 -0700, "Godfrey DiGiorgi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > said: > > > >> There's no mystery to it other than that you need to understand > >> colorspaces better. > >> > >> ProPhoto RGB describes a much larger color gamut than Adobe RGB or > >> sRGB. If you have subtle colors in ProPhoto RGB and they disappear > >> when you convert to sRGB or Adobe RGB, they've been clipped as they > >> cannot be represented in the target colorspace. Once clipped, they > >> cannot be recovered by converting back to the larger colorspace ... > >> the data has been lost, you need to go to the original file to > >> retrieve them. You might try different rendering intents ... Relative > >> Colorimetric basically moves all 'out of bound' colors to the limits > >> of a particular colorspace where Perceptual attempts to translate all > >> colors into the target colorspace as best can be arranged. > >> > >> Here's a way to see what's going on: convert a RAW file to a > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED], ProPhoto RGB file and open it in Photoshop. Have the > >> Histogram palette open, full RGB display. Then convert the colors to > >> the Adobe RGB profile with Relative Colorimetic intent ... toggle the > >> action with the "undo" command a couple of times and watch the > >> histograms. You'll see where the clipping is. Do the same with the > >> Perceptual intent. Once you see where the clipping is, go back to the > >> ProPhoto RGB rendering and adjust the color rendering to move values > >> in those areas back into the "safe" zone. Then you can convert to a > >> smaller profile with greater ease. > >> > >> (When you're working with a printer output profile, you can do the > >> same thing using the proofing setup and even turn on gamut warning > >> flags, but I don't recall that Photoshop 7 has these features. I have > >> PS CS2.) > >> > >> Godfrey > >> > >> > >> On Jul 9, 2008, at 11:18 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Raw Shooter Essentials, it's much better looking, without any > >>> Photoshop > >>> work before export as a TIKF. I recently started using ProPhoto color > >>> space in my work flow which seems to give better results, if I > >>> remember > >>> to convert the profile in Photoshop before output, so I changed > >>> back to > >>> the Adobe RGB profile and it made no difference. The last set of > >>> fireworks I processed, some time ago looked exactly the same when > >>> imported into Photoshop after conversion. > >>> > >>> http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/fireworks/PESO_-- > >>> _fireworks1a.html > >>> > >>> It's really quite annoying. > >>> > >>> David J Brooks wrote: > >>> > I like the pattern of the blast, very good. > > What do you convert with.? > > Dave > > > > > -- > You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. > --Al Capone. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, ple
Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery
Wow. You're a tough customer. I don't vote any more. Not enough time in a day to do someone else's job. But for the brief time when I did a bit of voting I was doling out a yes for about one out of four. I figured the peer role was to narrow down the choices, eliminate the obvious bad stuff, then let the judges make the final choice. Paul -- Original message -- From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I'm not surprised this question came up. ;) I meant, I may average something > like 1 "yes" vote out of every 45-50 total votes. > > Jack > > > --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery > > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > > Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 12:18 PM > > Jack Davis wrote: > > > > > > I'd guess my voting "yes" rate would > > average about 1 in 45-50.(?) > > > > Do you mean you vote Yes on 1 out of every 50 images that > > you vote on? > > Or that 1 out of every 50 of *your* images gets sufficient > > Yes votes to > > get in? > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > > directly above and follow the directions. > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Fireworks NY 2008 I
I don't understand your workflow well enough. It doesn't help that you are using antediluvian versions of software to do your work. A lot has happened in image processing over the past five years since Photoshop 7 was current. RSE is also more than two and a half years out of date. When capturing in RAW format, color space and color temperature settings, in fact all image processing settings, on the camera mean nothing. They're set in the RAW converter. The only camera settings that affect the RAW file, other than to establish a default for the RAW processor to start with, are ISO, time, lens opening, NR on or off, and focus. Is your output 16bit or 8bit TIFF? Photoshop 7 is quite restrictive in terms of what can be done in [EMAIL PROTECTED] operations. ProPhoto RGB really requires [EMAIL PROTECTED] pixels to be used effectively, in order to characterize all the possible colors of ProPhoto RGB, and it was released after Photoshop 7 too, I believe. If you are outputting 8bit TIFFs, use Adobe RGB colorspace in the RAW converter. It will net more consistent results. Beyond that, I don't know RSE nor do I remember the foibles of Photoshop 7 well enough to debug the problem. Godfrey On Jul 9, 2008, at 5:03 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > I assumed that there was a problem with the color space, so I tried > using the Adobe RGB color space that I had good results from couple of > years ago. The *ist-Ds will only allow sRGB or Adobe RGB for > recording > purposes, and I have the *ist-Ds set for Adobe RGB, (now I'm not sure > that makes any difference when shooting in RAW at this point). I > opened > the file in RSE, modified color balance, enhanced the shadow contrast, > (so I had more or less nice black skys), double checked that > everything > looked like I expected and exported a TIFF. It automatically > opened in > Photoshop and it looked just like the image exported in ProPhoto color > space... I do understand color space at least a bit. I know that > ProPhoto haa a larger gamet why however does > AdobeRGB->AdobeRGB->AdobeRGB end up losing colors, especially since I > used that conversion method before with predictable results...In fact > why does it give exactly the same results as > AdobeRGB->ProPhoto->AdobeRGB. Based on the results I've seen from > other > conversions I've done it shouldn't. > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Window Boxes 2
Another set of window boxes, shot from our hotel room near Wiesbaden, near dusk. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7528836 K10D, DA 50-200, ISO 560, f/ 5.6 @ 1/30, RAW via LR. For some reason, the camera really underexposed this shot; I applied a full stop of exposure compensation in Lightroom, and would have added more except that the shadows started to get a bit noisy. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Window Boxes
Rick Womer wrote: > I love what Europeans do with flowers, and what the flowers do for a rather > plain facade. This is from a small town near Wiesbaden, Germany, near dusk. > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7528824&size=lg Excellent! Which small town was that? I might actually recognize it. I had a customer in Wiesbaden back in the mid 1990s and traveled in the area quite a bit, since I typically went for two to three weeks at a time. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Geso Some flowers and birds whilst sitting in the back yard
On 9/7/08, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: >http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/sets/72157606071323461/ > >Did a little more shooting of Asian lilies, tiger lilies and bluejays >in the back yard the last few days. > >Still having troubles with the red ones, but some red desaturation in >LR and bump up the oranges a bit, >seems to help. > >Anyway, hopefully a nice set of flowers etc to brighten up your day. > >K10D, some with DA F 50 and some with the Sigma 300 F4. >Some LR cropping and saturation on a few. Great work Dave, lovely set of pics. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Is this feeder full?
I have bad news, the feeder is full but it's full of squirrel, though I'm sure the hawks like the menu... Bob Sullivan wrote: > from the back yard... It's easier to eat sunflower seeds from inside > the feeder. > > http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Squirrel/photo#5221146368259002546 > > K20D and old F70-210 zoom (the good one). > > Regards, Bob S. > > -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Fireworks NY 2008 I
I assumed that there was a problem with the color space, so I tried using the Adobe RGB color space that I had good results from couple of years ago. The *ist-Ds will only allow sRGB or Adobe RGB for recording purposes, and I have the *ist-Ds set for Adobe RGB, (now I'm not sure that makes any difference when shooting in RAW at this point). I opened the file in RSE, modified color balance, enhanced the shadow contrast, (so I had more or less nice black skys), double checked that everything looked like I expected and exported a TIFF. It automatically opened in Photoshop and it looked just like the image exported in ProPhoto color space... I do understand color space at least a bit. I know that ProPhoto haa a larger gamet why however does AdobeRGB->AdobeRGB->AdobeRGB end up losing colors, especially since I used that conversion method before with predictable results...In fact why does it give exactly the same results as AdobeRGB->ProPhoto->AdobeRGB. Based on the results I've seen from other conversions I've done it shouldn't. Brian Walters wrote: > Every time I think I understand colourspace conversions (or something > else to do with digital capture), someone on the list shatters my > illusions! Learning new things is one of the great benefits of PDML. > > Thanks for posting that explanation, Godfrey. > > > Cheers > > Brian > > ++ > Brian Walters > Western Sydney Australia > http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ > > > > On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 11:52:04 -0700, "Godfrey DiGiorgi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > said: > >> There's no mystery to it other than that you need to understand >> colorspaces better. >> >> ProPhoto RGB describes a much larger color gamut than Adobe RGB or >> sRGB. If you have subtle colors in ProPhoto RGB and they disappear >> when you convert to sRGB or Adobe RGB, they've been clipped as they >> cannot be represented in the target colorspace. Once clipped, they >> cannot be recovered by converting back to the larger colorspace ... >> the data has been lost, you need to go to the original file to >> retrieve them. You might try different rendering intents ... Relative >> Colorimetric basically moves all 'out of bound' colors to the limits >> of a particular colorspace where Perceptual attempts to translate all >> colors into the target colorspace as best can be arranged. >> >> Here's a way to see what's going on: convert a RAW file to a >> [EMAIL PROTECTED], ProPhoto RGB file and open it in Photoshop. Have the >> Histogram palette open, full RGB display. Then convert the colors to >> the Adobe RGB profile with Relative Colorimetic intent ... toggle the >> action with the "undo" command a couple of times and watch the >> histograms. You'll see where the clipping is. Do the same with the >> Perceptual intent. Once you see where the clipping is, go back to the >> ProPhoto RGB rendering and adjust the color rendering to move values >> in those areas back into the "safe" zone. Then you can convert to a >> smaller profile with greater ease. >> >> (When you're working with a printer output profile, you can do the >> same thing using the proofing setup and even turn on gamut warning >> flags, but I don't recall that Photoshop 7 has these features. I have >> PS CS2.) >> >> Godfrey >> >> >> On Jul 9, 2008, at 11:18 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: >> >> >>> Raw Shooter Essentials, it's much better looking, without any >>> Photoshop >>> work before export as a TIKF. I recently started using ProPhoto color >>> space in my work flow which seems to give better results, if I >>> remember >>> to convert the profile in Photoshop before output, so I changed >>> back to >>> the Adobe RGB profile and it made no difference. The last set of >>> fireworks I processed, some time ago looked exactly the same when >>> imported into Photoshop after conversion. >>> >>> http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/fireworks/PESO_-- >>> _fireworks1a.html >>> >>> It's really quite annoying. >>> >>> David J Brooks wrote: >>> I like the pattern of the blast, very good. What do you convert with.? Dave -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Window Boxes
I love what Europeans do with flowers, and what the flowers do for a rather plain facade. This is from a small town near Wiesbaden, Germany, near dusk. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7528824&size=lg K10D, DA 50-200, ISO 560, f/8 @ 1/90, RAW via LR. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Fireworks NY 2008 I
Believe it or not 1/125 sec. I have plenty of others that are at 1/2 sec or so that are not quite so sharp. Rick Womer wrote: > These are really nice, Peter. What sorts of shutter speeds were you using? > They're very sharp for hand-held shots. > > Rick > > http://photo.net/photos/RickW > > > --- On Wed, 7/9/08, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> From: P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: PESO -- Fireworks NY 2008 I >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >> Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 11:38 AM >> I went with a friends to the 4th of July fireworks in NY >> this last week >> and in spite of the rain it was a very good time. I >> carried the Dx with >> an A 24 FA 43 and vacillated between a 55 f1.8 or 85 f2.0 >> and finally >> decided on the real telephoto. I didn't take a tripod, >> was really >> looking to do some crowd/people shooting but I shot quite a >> lot of the >> fireworks anyway. Some of them weren't half bad. >> >> Just a bit of carping, I noticed when I opened almost all >> the fireworks >> files into any raw converter I could get some very subtle >> colors in the >> actual fireworks. However when I loaded them into >> Photoshop (7.0) for >> final editing, when they were converted to the working >> color space many >> of those colors were lost. This image had much more >> vibrant blues and >> reds, which Photoshop just washed out. I tried a number of >> different >> color spaces in the raw converter including sRGB and every >> one did the >> same thing. Oh well, another damned mystery. >> >> http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/fireworks/PESO%20--%20fwny2008_01.html >> >> Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax M 85mm f2.0 >> >> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. >> >> >> -- >> You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a >> kind word alone. >> --Al Capone. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link >> directly above and follow the directions. >> > > > > > -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Is this feeder full?
Good catch of a cute resourceful rodent! Jack --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: PESO: Is this feeder full? > To: "PDML" > Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 3:39 PM > from the back yard... It's easier to eat sunflower > seeds from inside > the feeder. > > http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Squirrel/photo#5221146368259002546 > > K20D and old F70-210 zoom (the good one). > > Regards, Bob S. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Nothing Good in the News
Frank, I find this photo to be the best of the subway series. It is a classic - young and old. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nicely done, Frank. I like it. > > -- > Best regards, > Bruce > > > Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 5:58:39 AM, you wrote: > > ft> http://tinyurl.com/6oxcf9 > > ft> > http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SHSuk6vyg6I/CkY/cyqYLLZnIUo/s1600-h/july_08_08+003.jpg > > ft> Another of my subway series. Comments always welcome. > > ft> cheers, > ft> frank > > > ft> -- > ft> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Geso Some flowers and birds whilst sitting in the back yard
Nice Dave, but what is the dark 8th photo? You afraid to show the marijuana plants. :-) Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:52 AM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/sets/72157606071323461/ > > Did a little more shooting of Asian lilies, tiger lilies and bluejays > in the back yard the last few days. > > Still having troubles with the red ones, but some red desaturation in > LR and bump up the oranges a bit, > seems to help. > > Anyway, hopefully a nice set of flowers etc to brighten up your day. > > K10D, some with DA F 50 and some with the Sigma 300 F4. > Some LR cropping and saturation on a few. > > Dave > > -- > Equine Photography > www.caughtinmotion.com > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > Ontario Canada > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Is this feeder full?
from the back yard... It's easier to eat sunflower seeds from inside the feeder. http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Squirrel/photo#5221146368259002546 K20D and old F70-210 zoom (the good one). Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery
This fact is the reason I may vote yes when I'm torn over the worthiness of an image. It's sort of like giving it a chance. Jack --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 12:39 PM > I have submitted more than just those 53. 2 of my images > were > rejected the first time and now made it in and 3 of the 53 > so far > have made it in. > > My take on the peer voting is that I am just trying to weed > it down > for the final judges - not make the final judgement. > Kind of like a Grand Jury - just indicating whether it is > worth > having a trial or not. The final jury is the judges - with > a yes/no > in the gallery. As such, I will vote yes probably more > than I would > if I were the final judge. > > -- > Best regards, > Bruce > > > Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 12:14:42 PM, you wrote: > > JD> Must be 1 in 10 if you had submitted all 53. Then > again, you may > JD> have submitted a number of 'other' images > which had not been previously accepted. > JD> I'd guess my voting "yes" rate would > average about 1 in 45-50.(?) > > JD> Jack > > > JD> --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Bruce Dayton > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> From: Bruce Dayton > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Subject: Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery > >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > > >> Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 9:51 AM > >> No, 1-10 is my voting average. Since having > originally 53 > >> in the > >> gallery and starting over, I now have 5 in. Not > every > >> single one has > >> been re-submitted but, most have. I'd say my > >> acceptance rate is more > >> like 1 in 30 now. I attribute it to 2 major > things. One > >> is the > >> gallery is filled in - so the judges can be much > pickier. > >> The other > >> is peer voting. > >> > >> If I had to guess, anyone else with a large number > from the > >> early > >> days would encounter similar experiences to > mine...or maybe > >> everyone > >> is out to get me now . > >> > >> -- > >> Best regards, > >> Bruce > >> > >> > >> Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 4:23:09 AM, you wrote: > >> > >> DJB> If Bruce gets 1-10 and Godders get 0-30, > no wonder > >> none of mine have > >> DJB> been accepted, since voting became the > norm. > >> > >> DJB> Dave > >> > >> DJB> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Bruce > Dayton > >> DJB> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> my average is about the same 1 in 10 gets > a thumbs > >> up. > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Best regards, > >> >> Bruce > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 10:15:28 AM, you > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> MR> They should start charging us (the > Gallery > >> participants) a dollar per > >> >> MR> photo for uploads! Maybe five > dollars... > >> >> > >> >> MR> No, I'm not serious (though > I'd > >> gladly pay it for the 1 or 2 photos per > >> >> MR> month that I submit) but it would > sure cut > >> down on people uploading 10 > >> >> MR> nearly-identical vacation > snapshots. Or > >> flowers. Or shots of their kids. > >> >> > >> >> MR> I do find voting on submitted > photos very > >> educational and it definitely > >> >> MR> helps my "eye", but the > ratio of > >> "thumbs up" to "thumbs down" > is taking > >> >> MR> a big turn for the worse. I used > to average > >> 1 in 5 yes votes. Now I > >> >> MR> think it's below 1 in 10. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> >> PDML@pdml.net > >> >> > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please > visit the > >> link directly above and follow the directions. > >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> DJB> -- > >> DJB> Equine Photography > >> DJB> www.caughtinmotion.com > >> DJB> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > >> DJB> Ontario Canada > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> PDML@pdml.net > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the > link > >> directly above and follow the directions. > > > JD> > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery
I'm not surprised this question came up. ;) I meant, I may average something like 1 "yes" vote out of every 45-50 total votes. Jack --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 12:18 PM > Jack Davis wrote: > > > > I'd guess my voting "yes" rate would > average about 1 in 45-50.(?) > > Do you mean you vote Yes on 1 out of every 50 images that > you vote on? > Or that 1 out of every 50 of *your* images gets sufficient > Yes votes to > get in? > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Fireworks NY 2008 I
Every time I think I understand colourspace conversions (or something else to do with digital capture), someone on the list shatters my illusions! Learning new things is one of the great benefits of PDML. Thanks for posting that explanation, Godfrey. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 11:52:04 -0700, "Godfrey DiGiorgi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > There's no mystery to it other than that you need to understand > colorspaces better. > > ProPhoto RGB describes a much larger color gamut than Adobe RGB or > sRGB. If you have subtle colors in ProPhoto RGB and they disappear > when you convert to sRGB or Adobe RGB, they've been clipped as they > cannot be represented in the target colorspace. Once clipped, they > cannot be recovered by converting back to the larger colorspace ... > the data has been lost, you need to go to the original file to > retrieve them. You might try different rendering intents ... Relative > Colorimetric basically moves all 'out of bound' colors to the limits > of a particular colorspace where Perceptual attempts to translate all > colors into the target colorspace as best can be arranged. > > Here's a way to see what's going on: convert a RAW file to a > [EMAIL PROTECTED], ProPhoto RGB file and open it in Photoshop. Have the > Histogram palette open, full RGB display. Then convert the colors to > the Adobe RGB profile with Relative Colorimetic intent ... toggle the > action with the "undo" command a couple of times and watch the > histograms. You'll see where the clipping is. Do the same with the > Perceptual intent. Once you see where the clipping is, go back to the > ProPhoto RGB rendering and adjust the color rendering to move values > in those areas back into the "safe" zone. Then you can convert to a > smaller profile with greater ease. > > (When you're working with a printer output profile, you can do the > same thing using the proofing setup and even turn on gamut warning > flags, but I don't recall that Photoshop 7 has these features. I have > PS CS2.) > > Godfrey > > > On Jul 9, 2008, at 11:18 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > > > Raw Shooter Essentials, it's much better looking, without any > > Photoshop > > work before export as a TIKF. I recently started using ProPhoto color > > space in my work flow which seems to give better results, if I > > remember > > to convert the profile in Photoshop before output, so I changed > > back to > > the Adobe RGB profile and it made no difference. The last set of > > fireworks I processed, some time ago looked exactly the same when > > imported into Photoshop after conversion. > > > > http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/fireworks/PESO_-- > > _fireworks1a.html > > > > It's really quite annoying. > > > > David J Brooks wrote: > >> I like the pattern of the blast, very good. > >> > >> What do you convert with.? > >> > >> Dave > >> -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - IMAP accessible web-mail -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Fireworks NY 2008 I
Very interesting pattern to the explosions - not what I'm used to seeing. It's nice - but the "_fireworks1a.html" is fantastic. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 11:38:45 -0400, "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I went with a friends to the 4th of July fireworks in NY this last week > and in spite of the rain it was a very good time. I carried the Dx with > an A 24 FA 43 and vacillated between a 55 f1.8 or 85 f2.0 and finally > decided on the real telephoto. I didn't take a tripod, was really > looking to do some crowd/people shooting but I shot quite a lot of the > fireworks anyway. Some of them weren't half bad. > > Just a bit of carping, I noticed when I opened almost all the fireworks > files into any raw converter I could get some very subtle colors in the > actual fireworks. However when I loaded them into Photoshop (7.0) for > final editing, when they were converted to the working color space many > of those colors were lost. This image had much more vibrant blues and > reds, which Photoshop just washed out. I tried a number of different > color spaces in the raw converter including sRGB and every one did the > same thing. Oh well, another damned mystery. > > http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/fireworks/PESO%20--%20fwny2008_01.html > > Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax M 85mm f2.0 > > As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. > > -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Send your email first class -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Nothing Good in the News
Great expression on the older lady's face. Well done. (she's probably thinking "if she doesn't turn the sound level of that contraption down, I'm gonna let her have it!". Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 08:58:39 -0400, "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > http://tinyurl.com/6oxcf9 > > http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SHSuk6vyg6I/CkY/cyqYLLZnIUo/s1600-h/july_08_08+003.jpg > > Another of my subway series. Comments always welcome. > > cheers, > frank > > -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Same, same, but different -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Geso Some flowers and birds whilst sitting in the back yard
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Some nice shots there, Dave. What is going on in IGP0167? Thanks Rick. IGP0167 is a shadow reflecting off my garage wall, of part of the largest Asian Lille i have. Sun was just starting to light it up and Liz thought it would make a good shot. I think it does.:-) Dave > > Rick > > http://photo.net/photos/RickW > > > --- On Wed, 7/9/08, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> From: David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Geso Some flowers and birds whilst sitting in the back yard >> To: "Pentax Discuss" , "Harry Bolton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >> "Rick DellaMora" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Barbara Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >> "Yvette Sheppard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Sarah Bedford-James" <[EMAIL >> PROTECTED]> >> Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 10:52 AM >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/sets/72157606071323461/ >> >> Did a little more shooting of Asian lilies, tiger lilies >> and bluejays >> in the back yard the last few days. >> >> Still having troubles with the red ones, but some red >> desaturation in >> LR and bump up the oranges a bit, >> seems to help. >> >> Anyway, hopefully a nice set of flowers etc to brighten up >> your day. >> >> K10D, some with DA F 50 and some with the Sigma 300 F4. >> Some LR cropping and saturation on a few. >> >> Dave >> >> -- >> Equine Photography >> www.caughtinmotion.com >> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ >> Ontario Canada >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link >> directly above and follow the directions. > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Two re-posts
Thanks, Dave. http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Wed, 7/9/08, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: PESO: Two re-posts > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 10:54 AM > I don't remember seeing these Rick, so its possible they > did not get through. > > Like the tower shot, with the cloud swirls and the moody > effect of the > Rhine shot. > > Dave > > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Rick Womer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Neither of these got any comments, and one of them > isn't in the archives, so they may have gotten lost in > holiday cyberspace. > > > > "Love by the Rhine" was the more recent, > taken at dusk in Dusseldorf. It was an unusual > Theriaultian moment for me. > > > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7510816 > > > > (K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 560, f/4.5 @ 1/45, RAW via LR). > > > > The second is a pair: the Rheinturm (Dusseldorf's > proud tower), and the view of the Rhine from the Rheinturm: > > > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7501703 > > > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7501725 > > > > (Same body and lens, RAW via LR) > > > > Cheers, > > > > Rick > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > > > > > > -- > Equine Photography > www.caughtinmotion.com > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > Ontario Canada > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Fireworks NY 2008 I
These are really nice, Peter. What sorts of shutter speeds were you using? They're very sharp for hand-held shots. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Wed, 7/9/08, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: PESO -- Fireworks NY 2008 I > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 11:38 AM > I went with a friends to the 4th of July fireworks in NY > this last week > and in spite of the rain it was a very good time. I > carried the Dx with > an A 24 FA 43 and vacillated between a 55 f1.8 or 85 f2.0 > and finally > decided on the real telephoto. I didn't take a tripod, > was really > looking to do some crowd/people shooting but I shot quite a > lot of the > fireworks anyway. Some of them weren't half bad. > > Just a bit of carping, I noticed when I opened almost all > the fireworks > files into any raw converter I could get some very subtle > colors in the > actual fireworks. However when I loaded them into > Photoshop (7.0) for > final editing, when they were converted to the working > color space many > of those colors were lost. This image had much more > vibrant blues and > reds, which Photoshop just washed out. I tried a number of > different > color spaces in the raw converter including sRGB and every > one did the > same thing. Oh well, another damned mystery. > > http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/fireworks/PESO%20--%20fwny2008_01.html > > Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax M 85mm f2.0 > > As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. > > > -- > You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a > kind word alone. > --Al Capone. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Nothing Good in the News
One of them is thinking "I was like that once". The other is thinking "I'm never gonna get like that!". > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of frank theriault > Sent: 09 July 2008 13:59 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: PESO - Nothing Good in the News > > http://tinyurl.com/6oxcf9 > > http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SHSuk6vyg6I/CkY/cy qYLLZnIUo/s1600-h/july_08_08+003.jpg > > Another of my subway series. Comments always welcome. > > cheers, > frank > > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly > above and follow the directions. > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery
Bruce Dayton wrote: > > My take on the peer voting is that I am just trying to weed it down > for the final judges - not make the final judgement. This is exactly my take on the issue. And I frequently vote "yes" on superb images that I *know* aren't going to make the final cut. Things like Frank's shots which are artistically superb but won't make anyone say "Wow! Where can I get the camera/lens that made THAT shot?!" Sometimes I find myself thinking "this is a brilliant shot and even though it isn't what the Gallery wants to promote camera sales I'm gonna vote YES and try to make *them* reject it!" Hey, it makes me feel better. :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery
I have submitted more than just those 53. 2 of my images were rejected the first time and now made it in and 3 of the 53 so far have made it in. My take on the peer voting is that I am just trying to weed it down for the final judges - not make the final judgement. Kind of like a Grand Jury - just indicating whether it is worth having a trial or not. The final jury is the judges - with a yes/no in the gallery. As such, I will vote yes probably more than I would if I were the final judge. -- Best regards, Bruce Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 12:14:42 PM, you wrote: JD> Must be 1 in 10 if you had submitted all 53. Then again, you may JD> have submitted a number of 'other' images which had not been previously accepted. JD> I'd guess my voting "yes" rate would average about 1 in 45-50.(?) JD> Jack JD> --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> From: Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >> Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 9:51 AM >> No, 1-10 is my voting average. Since having originally 53 >> in the >> gallery and starting over, I now have 5 in. Not every >> single one has >> been re-submitted but, most have. I'd say my >> acceptance rate is more >> like 1 in 30 now. I attribute it to 2 major things. One >> is the >> gallery is filled in - so the judges can be much pickier. >> The other >> is peer voting. >> >> If I had to guess, anyone else with a large number from the >> early >> days would encounter similar experiences to mine...or maybe >> everyone >> is out to get me now . >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Bruce >> >> >> Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 4:23:09 AM, you wrote: >> >> DJB> If Bruce gets 1-10 and Godders get 0-30, no wonder >> none of mine have >> DJB> been accepted, since voting became the norm. >> >> DJB> Dave >> >> DJB> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Bruce Dayton >> DJB> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> my average is about the same 1 in 10 gets a thumbs >> up. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Best regards, >> >> Bruce >> >> >> >> >> >> Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 10:15:28 AM, you wrote: >> >> >> >> MR> They should start charging us (the Gallery >> participants) a dollar per >> >> MR> photo for uploads! Maybe five dollars... >> >> >> >> MR> No, I'm not serious (though I'd >> gladly pay it for the 1 or 2 photos per >> >> MR> month that I submit) but it would sure cut >> down on people uploading 10 >> >> MR> nearly-identical vacation snapshots. Or >> flowers. Or shots of their kids. >> >> >> >> MR> I do find voting on submitted photos very >> educational and it definitely >> >> MR> helps my "eye", but the ratio of >> "thumbs up" to "thumbs down" is taking >> >> MR> a big turn for the worse. I used to average >> 1 in 5 yes votes. Now I >> >> MR> think it's below 1 in 10. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> >> PDML@pdml.net >> >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the >> link directly above and follow the directions. >> >> >> >> >> >> DJB> -- >> DJB> Equine Photography >> DJB> www.caughtinmotion.com >> DJB> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ >> DJB> Ontario Canada >> >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link >> directly above and follow the directions. JD> -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Geso Some flowers and birds whilst sitting in the back yard
Some nice shots there, Dave. What is going on in IGP0167? Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Wed, 7/9/08, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Geso Some flowers and birds whilst sitting in the back yard > To: "Pentax Discuss" , "Harry Bolton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Rick DellaMora" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Barbara Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Yvette Sheppard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Sarah Bedford-James" <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> > Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 10:52 AM > http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/sets/72157606071323461/ > > Did a little more shooting of Asian lilies, tiger lilies > and bluejays > in the back yard the last few days. > > Still having troubles with the red ones, but some red > desaturation in > LR and bump up the oranges a bit, > seems to help. > > Anyway, hopefully a nice set of flowers etc to brighten up > your day. > > K10D, some with DA F 50 and some with the Sigma 300 F4. > Some LR cropping and saturation on a few. > > Dave > > -- > Equine Photography > www.caughtinmotion.com > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > Ontario Canada > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery
Jack Davis wrote: > > I'd guess my voting "yes" rate would average about 1 in 45-50.(?) Do you mean you vote Yes on 1 out of every 50 images that you vote on? Or that 1 out of every 50 of *your* images gets sufficient Yes votes to get in? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery
Must be 1 in 10 if you had submitted all 53. Then again, you may have submitted a number of 'other' images which had not been previously accepted. I'd guess my voting "yes" rate would average about 1 in 45-50.(?) Jack --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 9:51 AM > No, 1-10 is my voting average. Since having originally 53 > in the > gallery and starting over, I now have 5 in. Not every > single one has > been re-submitted but, most have. I'd say my > acceptance rate is more > like 1 in 30 now. I attribute it to 2 major things. One > is the > gallery is filled in - so the judges can be much pickier. > The other > is peer voting. > > If I had to guess, anyone else with a large number from the > early > days would encounter similar experiences to mine...or maybe > everyone > is out to get me now . > > -- > Best regards, > Bruce > > > Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 4:23:09 AM, you wrote: > > DJB> If Bruce gets 1-10 and Godders get 0-30, no wonder > none of mine have > DJB> been accepted, since voting became the norm. > > DJB> Dave > > DJB> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Bruce Dayton > DJB> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> my average is about the same 1 in 10 gets a thumbs > up. > >> > >> -- > >> Best regards, > >> Bruce > >> > >> > >> Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 10:15:28 AM, you wrote: > >> > >> MR> They should start charging us (the Gallery > participants) a dollar per > >> MR> photo for uploads! Maybe five dollars... > >> > >> MR> No, I'm not serious (though I'd > gladly pay it for the 1 or 2 photos per > >> MR> month that I submit) but it would sure cut > down on people uploading 10 > >> MR> nearly-identical vacation snapshots. Or > flowers. Or shots of their kids. > >> > >> MR> I do find voting on submitted photos very > educational and it definitely > >> MR> helps my "eye", but the ratio of > "thumbs up" to "thumbs down" is taking > >> MR> a big turn for the worse. I used to average > 1 in 5 yes votes. Now I > >> MR> think it's below 1 in 10. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> PDML@pdml.net > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the > link directly above and follow the directions. > >> > > > > DJB> -- > DJB> Equine Photography > DJB> www.caughtinmotion.com > DJB> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > DJB> Ontario Canada > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Fireworks NY 2008 I
There's no mystery to it other than that you need to understand colorspaces better. ProPhoto RGB describes a much larger color gamut than Adobe RGB or sRGB. If you have subtle colors in ProPhoto RGB and they disappear when you convert to sRGB or Adobe RGB, they've been clipped as they cannot be represented in the target colorspace. Once clipped, they cannot be recovered by converting back to the larger colorspace ... the data has been lost, you need to go to the original file to retrieve them. You might try different rendering intents ... Relative Colorimetric basically moves all 'out of bound' colors to the limits of a particular colorspace where Perceptual attempts to translate all colors into the target colorspace as best can be arranged. Here's a way to see what's going on: convert a RAW file to a [EMAIL PROTECTED], ProPhoto RGB file and open it in Photoshop. Have the Histogram palette open, full RGB display. Then convert the colors to the Adobe RGB profile with Relative Colorimetic intent ... toggle the action with the "undo" command a couple of times and watch the histograms. You'll see where the clipping is. Do the same with the Perceptual intent. Once you see where the clipping is, go back to the ProPhoto RGB rendering and adjust the color rendering to move values in those areas back into the "safe" zone. Then you can convert to a smaller profile with greater ease. (When you're working with a printer output profile, you can do the same thing using the proofing setup and even turn on gamut warning flags, but I don't recall that Photoshop 7 has these features. I have PS CS2.) Godfrey On Jul 9, 2008, at 11:18 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > Raw Shooter Essentials, it's much better looking, without any > Photoshop > work before export as a TIKF. I recently started using ProPhoto color > space in my work flow which seems to give better results, if I > remember > to convert the profile in Photoshop before output, so I changed > back to > the Adobe RGB profile and it made no difference. The last set of > fireworks I processed, some time ago looked exactly the same when > imported into Photoshop after conversion. > > http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/fireworks/PESO_-- > _fireworks1a.html > > It's really quite annoying. > > David J Brooks wrote: >> I like the pattern of the blast, very good. >> >> What do you convert with.? >> >> Dave >> >> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 11:38 AM, P. J. Alling >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> I went with a friends to the 4th of July fireworks in NY this >>> last week >>> and in spite of the rain it was a very good time. I carried the >>> Dx with >>> an A 24 FA 43 and vacillated between a 55 f1.8 or 85 f2.0 and >>> finally >>> decided on the real telephoto. I didn't take a tripod, was really >>> looking to do some crowd/people shooting but I shot quite a lot >>> of the >>> fireworks anyway. Some of them weren't half bad. >>> >>> Just a bit of carping, I noticed when I opened almost all the >>> fireworks >>> files into any raw converter I could get some very subtle colors >>> in the >>> actual fireworks. However when I loaded them into Photoshop >>> (7.0) for >>> final editing, when they were converted to the working color >>> space many >>> of those colors were lost. This image had much more vibrant >>> blues and >>> reds, which Photoshop just washed out. I tried a number of >>> different >>> color spaces in the raw converter including sRGB and every one >>> did the >>> same thing. Oh well, another damned mystery. >>> >>> http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/fireworks/PESO%20--% >>> 20fwny2008_01.html >>> -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Fireworks NY 2008 I
Raw Shooter Essentials, it's much better looking, without any Photoshop work before export as a TIKF. I recently started using ProPhoto color space in my work flow which seems to give better results, if I remember to convert the profile in Photoshop before output, so I changed back to the Adobe RGB profile and it made no difference. The last set of fireworks I processed, some time ago looked exactly the same when imported into Photoshop after conversion. http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/fireworks/PESO_--_fireworks1a.html It's really quite annoying. David J Brooks wrote: > I like the pattern of the blast, very good. > > What do you convert with.? > > Dave > > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 11:38 AM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I went with a friends to the 4th of July fireworks in NY this last week >> and in spite of the rain it was a very good time. I carried the Dx with >> an A 24 FA 43 and vacillated between a 55 f1.8 or 85 f2.0 and finally >> decided on the real telephoto. I didn't take a tripod, was really >> looking to do some crowd/people shooting but I shot quite a lot of the >> fireworks anyway. Some of them weren't half bad. >> >> Just a bit of carping, I noticed when I opened almost all the fireworks >> files into any raw converter I could get some very subtle colors in the >> actual fireworks. However when I loaded them into Photoshop (7.0) for >> final editing, when they were converted to the working color space many >> of those colors were lost. This image had much more vibrant blues and >> reds, which Photoshop just washed out. I tried a number of different >> color spaces in the raw converter including sRGB and every one did the >> same thing. Oh well, another damned mystery. >> >> http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/fireworks/PESO%20--%20fwny2008_01.html >> >> Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax M 85mm f2.0 >> >> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. >> >> >> -- >> You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. >>--Al Capone. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> >> > > > > -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Fireworks NY 2008 I
I like the pattern of the blast, very good. What do you convert with.? Dave On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 11:38 AM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I went with a friends to the 4th of July fireworks in NY this last week > and in spite of the rain it was a very good time. I carried the Dx with > an A 24 FA 43 and vacillated between a 55 f1.8 or 85 f2.0 and finally > decided on the real telephoto. I didn't take a tripod, was really > looking to do some crowd/people shooting but I shot quite a lot of the > fireworks anyway. Some of them weren't half bad. > > Just a bit of carping, I noticed when I opened almost all the fireworks > files into any raw converter I could get some very subtle colors in the > actual fireworks. However when I loaded them into Photoshop (7.0) for > final editing, when they were converted to the working color space many > of those colors were lost. This image had much more vibrant blues and > reds, which Photoshop just washed out. I tried a number of different > color spaces in the raw converter including sRGB and every one did the > same thing. Oh well, another damned mystery. > > http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/fireworks/PESO%20--%20fwny2008_01.html > > Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax M 85mm f2.0 > > As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. > > > -- > You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. >--Al Capone. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Traffic, what traffic?
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 12:08 PM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No you're not, libertarian's answer. Public Health Bills? What the > hell are they? Well, Bill, me, Frank, Adam, Mike know what they are.:-) Dave > > Bob Sullivan wrote: >> I'm as libertarian as the next guy, but mak'emwear helmets. >> I don't want to pay the public health bills for the long term brain injuries. >> Regards, Bob S. >> >> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:14 AM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> As a libertarian I oppose helmet laws on principal, (It's your body, if >>> you're stupid enough to not wear a helmet, thats fine with me). However >>> they seem to make for some amusing photographs, so now I'm torn... >>> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> Thanks Dave. We have a helmet law. I guess his toy helmet is judged adequate. Paul -- Original message -- From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Ha Ha. > > Nice catch Paul. > > The way things are going,m you and Frank should have a lot of scooters > to shoot.:-) > > No helmet laws in Michigan.??or is this a scooter thing. > > Dave > > On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> For Frank. >> Check out that heavy duty brain bucket. >> Paul >> >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7521717&size=lg >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow >> >> > the directions. > > > -- > Equine Photography > www.caughtinmotion.com > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > Ontario Canada > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow > the directions. > > >>> -- >>> You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. >>>--Al Capone. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> >>> >> >> > > > -- > You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. >--Al Capone. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Geso Some flowers and birds whilst sitting in the back yard
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Ken Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 0223 would benefit from a square crop, omitting the open space in the URH > corner. Thanks Ken. I did do a crop, mostly to give it a rule of thirds look, but i'll try a square and see how it looks. > 0227 is the best tripod image I've seen in a while ! I like that one to. No catagory in the fair for that one.:-) That was just a "hears were the flowers come from" shot. Dave > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f > > - Original Message - > From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Geso Some flowers and birds whilst sitting in the back yard > > >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/sets/72157606071323461/ >> >> Did a little more shooting of Asian lilies, tiger lilies and bluejays >> in the back yard the last few days. >> >> Still having troubles with the red ones, but some red desaturation in >> LR and bump up the oranges a bit, >> seems to help. >> >> Anyway, hopefully a nice set of flowers etc to brighten up your day. >> >> K10D, some with DA F 50 and some with the Sigma 300 F4. >> Some LR cropping and saturation on a few. >> >> Dave >> >> -- >> Equine Photography >> www.caughtinmotion.com >> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ >> Ontario Canada > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Geso Some flowers and birds whilst sitting in the back yard
Thanks Paul. Those Clematis poke through every year, and pretty much in the same spot, but i shoot them anyway.:-) We have the jays feed schedule down pretty good, so it gives me time to set up. The shadowy shot of the lilies is just that a shadow on my garage wall, just as the sun was poking through a Manitoba Maple. Liz suggested that one, i think it works well. Dave On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 11:37 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wow! Some really nice work here. Love the clematis poking through the boards, > the lilies in the fog and of course the jay doing lunch. Great stuff. > Paul > -- Original message -- > From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/sets/72157606071323461/ >> >> Did a little more shooting of Asian lilies, tiger lilies and bluejays >> in the back yard the last few days. >> >> Still having troubles with the red ones, but some red desaturation in >> LR and bump up the oranges a bit, >> seems to help. >> >> Anyway, hopefully a nice set of flowers etc to brighten up your day. >> >> K10D, some with DA F 50 and some with the Sigma 300 F4. >> Some LR cropping and saturation on a few. >> >> Dave >> >> -- >> Equine Photography >> www.caughtinmotion.com >> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ >> Ontario Canada >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow >> the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Geso Some flowers and birds whilst sitting in the back yard
Thanks Jack. The Jays are shot using the Sigma 300 F4. I put the tripod next to me whilst sitting in my patio chair, MF and pre focused on a peanut, and hand on the trigger. When one flew down i shot. I don't have a release.:-) Yes i did crop some what on the first one, and quite a bit on the last one, to get rid of some unwanted stuff. He didi not land were i wanted him/her to.:-0 Dave On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Like the set, Dave. Your use of shadows works well. > Was the jay shot with the 300 Sigma? Are they cropped to any extent? > > Jack > > > --- On Wed, 7/9/08, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> From: David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Geso Some flowers and birds whilst sitting in the back yard >> To: "Pentax Discuss" , "Harry Bolton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >> "Rick DellaMora" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Barbara Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >> "Yvette Sheppard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Sarah Bedford-James" <[EMAIL >> PROTECTED]> >> Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 7:52 AM >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/sets/72157606071323461/ >> >> Did a little more shooting of Asian lilies, tiger lilies >> and bluejays >> in the back yard the last few days. >> >> Still having troubles with the red ones, but some red >> desaturation in >> LR and bump up the oranges a bit, >> seems to help. >> >> Anyway, hopefully a nice set of flowers etc to brighten up >> your day. >> >> K10D, some with DA F 50 and some with the Sigma 300 F4. >> Some LR cropping and saturation on a few. >> >> Dave >> >> -- >> Equine Photography >> www.caughtinmotion.com >> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ >> Ontario Canada >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link >> directly above and follow the directions. > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Question to birding people
John Francis wrote: > On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 07:41:51AM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: >> Cotty wrote: >>> On 9/7/08, Tim ?sleby, discombobulated, unleashed: >>> I have sat down at the path, to get a BIF or two, >>> Bird In Focus? ;) >> Bicycle in Focus. >> >> Ask Frank about it... > > Frank knows about focus? You bet. The same way bicyclists know about crashing: As something to avoid! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Geso Some flowers and birds whilst sitting in the back yard
0223 would benefit from a square crop, omitting the open space in the URH corner. 0227 is the best tripod image I've seen in a while ! Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Geso Some flowers and birds whilst sitting in the back yard > http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/sets/72157606071323461/ > > Did a little more shooting of Asian lilies, tiger lilies and bluejays > in the back yard the last few days. > > Still having troubles with the red ones, but some red desaturation in > LR and bump up the oranges a bit, > seems to help. > > Anyway, hopefully a nice set of flowers etc to brighten up your day. > > K10D, some with DA F 50 and some with the Sigma 300 F4. > Some LR cropping and saturation on a few. > > Dave > > -- > Equine Photography > www.caughtinmotion.com > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Question to birding people
On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 07:41:51AM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: > Cotty wrote: > > On 9/7/08, Tim ?sleby, discombobulated, unleashed: > > > >> I have sat down at the path, to get a BIF or two, > > > > Bird In Focus? ;) > > Bicycle in Focus. > > Ask Frank about it... Frank knows about focus? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Nothing Good in the News
Probably pondering which scooter to purchase. ;+] Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: PESO - Nothing Good in the News > http://tinyurl.com/6oxcf9 > > http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SHSuk6vyg6I/CkY/cyqYLLZnIUo/s1600-h/july_08_08+003.jpg > > Another of my subway series. Comments always welcome. > > cheers, > frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery
Bruce Dayton wrote: > No, 1-10 is my voting average. Since having originally 53 in the > gallery and starting over, I now have 5 in. Not every single one has > been re-submitted but, most have. I'd say my acceptance rate is more > like 1 in 30 now. I attribute it to 2 major things. One is the > gallery is filled in - so the judges can be much pickier. The other > is peer voting. > > If I had to guess, anyone else with a large number from the early > days would encounter similar experiences to mine...or maybe everyone > is out to get me now . Oh come on Bruce, everyone is *not* out to get you. Most of us, perhaps... ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Backstage...
I think you caught the moment you were trying to convey. Nicely done! -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 9:22:19 PM, you wrote: DB> enjoy DB> http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=283 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Question to birding people
2008/7/9 John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 12:16:46PM +0200, Tim ??sleby wrote: >> No; it is Bird In Fall. >> >> First I shotgun them, and then I photograph them while they are falling. >> The hard part is to get them in frame while they are high in the air. >> Thats the goal, because the sky gives a cleaner background. >> >> I'll share the basic tecnique. >> You have to have the camera strapped around the neck, and no strap at >> the shotgun. You shoot from the hip, and drop the shotgun directly, >> and then grab the camera, while the shotgun still is in the air. You >> can't shoot from thee shoulder, because the shotgun will get in the >> way of the camera while being dropped. >> >> It's a complicated sport, but the pictures will get you viewers attention. > > That's the hard way. The easy way is to use a simple clamp to fix > the camera to the barrel of the shotgun, and put a microswitch behind > the trigger for the shutter release. Then it's just like using a > double-barrelled shotgun with two triggers. That,s not sport, thats just harvesting BIF pictures. -- MaritimTim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Nothing Good in the News
Nicely done, Frank. I like it. -- Best regards, Bruce Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 5:58:39 AM, you wrote: ft> http://tinyurl.com/6oxcf9 ft> http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SHSuk6vyg6I/CkY/cyqYLLZnIUo/s1600-h/july_08_08+003.jpg ft> Another of my subway series. Comments always welcome. ft> cheers, ft> frank ft> -- ft> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery
No, 1-10 is my voting average. Since having originally 53 in the gallery and starting over, I now have 5 in. Not every single one has been re-submitted but, most have. I'd say my acceptance rate is more like 1 in 30 now. I attribute it to 2 major things. One is the gallery is filled in - so the judges can be much pickier. The other is peer voting. If I had to guess, anyone else with a large number from the early days would encounter similar experiences to mine...or maybe everyone is out to get me now . -- Best regards, Bruce Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 4:23:09 AM, you wrote: DJB> If Bruce gets 1-10 and Godders get 0-30, no wonder none of mine have DJB> been accepted, since voting became the norm. DJB> Dave DJB> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Bruce Dayton DJB> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> my average is about the same 1 in 10 gets a thumbs up. >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Bruce >> >> >> Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 10:15:28 AM, you wrote: >> >> MR> They should start charging us (the Gallery participants) a dollar per >> MR> photo for uploads! Maybe five dollars... >> >> MR> No, I'm not serious (though I'd gladly pay it for the 1 or 2 photos per >> MR> month that I submit) but it would sure cut down on people uploading 10 >> MR> nearly-identical vacation snapshots. Or flowers. Or shots of their kids. >> >> MR> I do find voting on submitted photos very educational and it definitely >> MR> helps my "eye", but the ratio of "thumbs up" to "thumbs down" is taking >> MR> a big turn for the worse. I used to average 1 in 5 yes votes. Now I >> MR> think it's below 1 in 10. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> DJB> -- DJB> Equine Photography DJB> www.caughtinmotion.com DJB> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ DJB> Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Question to birding people
On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 12:16:46PM +0200, Tim ??sleby wrote: > No; it is Bird In Fall. > > First I shotgun them, and then I photograph them while they are falling. > The hard part is to get them in frame while they are high in the air. > Thats the goal, because the sky gives a cleaner background. > > I'll share the basic tecnique. > You have to have the camera strapped around the neck, and no strap at > the shotgun. You shoot from the hip, and drop the shotgun directly, > and then grab the camera, while the shotgun still is in the air. You > can't shoot from thee shoulder, because the shotgun will get in the > way of the camera while being dropped. > > It's a complicated sport, but the pictures will get you viewers attention. That's the hard way. The easy way is to use a simple clamp to fix the camera to the barrel of the shotgun, and put a microswitch behind the trigger for the shutter release. Then it's just like using a double-barrelled shotgun with two triggers. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Backstage...
I like it. So introvert, before a performanse. Interesting. I can't decide if he looks terrified or not? I only knows he looks better than me ;-) -- MaritimTim 2008/7/9 Doug Brewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > enjoy > > http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=283 > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Traffic, what traffic?
No you're not, libertarian's answer. Public Health Bills? What the hell are they? Bob Sullivan wrote: > I'm as libertarian as the next guy, but mak'emwear helmets. > I don't want to pay the public health bills for the long term brain injuries. > Regards, Bob S. > > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:14 AM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> As a libertarian I oppose helmet laws on principal, (It's your body, if >> you're stupid enough to not wear a helmet, thats fine with me). However >> they seem to make for some amusing photographs, so now I'm torn... >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> Thanks Dave. We have a helmet law. I guess his toy helmet is judged >>> adequate. >>> Paul >>> -- Original message -- >>> From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>> Ha Ha. Nice catch Paul. The way things are going,m you and Frank should have a lot of scooters to shoot.:-) No helmet laws in Michigan.??or is this a scooter thing. Dave On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For Frank. > Check out that heavy duty brain bucket. > Paul > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7521717&size=lg > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow > > the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. >>> >>> >> -- >> You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. >>--Al Capone. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> >> > > -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Traffic, what traffic?
Bruce Walker wrote: > P. J. Alling wrote: > >> As a libertarian I oppose helmet laws on principal, (It's your body, if >> you're stupid enough to not wear a helmet, thats fine with me). However >> they seem to make for some amusing photographs, so now I'm torn... >> >> > > Then I assume you'd back the law that Woody Allen as South American > dictator (Bananas) imposed that required everyone to wear their > underwear on the outside of their clothes? You'd get some great shots > from that. :) > > -bmw > As I said, torn... -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO -- Fireworks NY 2008 I
I went with a friends to the 4th of July fireworks in NY this last week and in spite of the rain it was a very good time. I carried the Dx with an A 24 FA 43 and vacillated between a 55 f1.8 or 85 f2.0 and finally decided on the real telephoto. I didn't take a tripod, was really looking to do some crowd/people shooting but I shot quite a lot of the fireworks anyway. Some of them weren't half bad. Just a bit of carping, I noticed when I opened almost all the fireworks files into any raw converter I could get some very subtle colors in the actual fireworks. However when I loaded them into Photoshop (7.0) for final editing, when they were converted to the working color space many of those colors were lost. This image had much more vibrant blues and reds, which Photoshop just washed out. I tried a number of different color spaces in the raw converter including sRGB and every one did the same thing. Oh well, another damned mystery. http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/fireworks/PESO%20--%20fwny2008_01.html Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax M 85mm f2.0 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Geso Some flowers and birds whilst sitting in the back yard
Wow! Some really nice work here. Love the clematis poking through the boards, the lilies in the fog and of course the jay doing lunch. Great stuff. Paul -- Original message -- From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/sets/72157606071323461/ > > Did a little more shooting of Asian lilies, tiger lilies and bluejays > in the back yard the last few days. > > Still having troubles with the red ones, but some red desaturation in > LR and bump up the oranges a bit, > seems to help. > > Anyway, hopefully a nice set of flowers etc to brighten up your day. > > K10D, some with DA F 50 and some with the Sigma 300 F4. > Some LR cropping and saturation on a few. > > Dave > > -- > Equine Photography > www.caughtinmotion.com > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > Ontario Canada > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Geso Some flowers and birds whilst sitting in the back yard
Like the set, Dave. Your use of shadows works well. Was the jay shot with the 300 Sigma? Are they cropped to any extent? Jack --- On Wed, 7/9/08, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Geso Some flowers and birds whilst sitting in the back yard > To: "Pentax Discuss" , "Harry Bolton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Rick DellaMora" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Barbara Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Yvette Sheppard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Sarah Bedford-James" <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> > Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 7:52 AM > http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/sets/72157606071323461/ > > Did a little more shooting of Asian lilies, tiger lilies > and bluejays > in the back yard the last few days. > > Still having troubles with the red ones, but some red > desaturation in > LR and bump up the oranges a bit, > seems to help. > > Anyway, hopefully a nice set of flowers etc to brighten up > your day. > > K10D, some with DA F 50 and some with the Sigma 300 F4. > Some LR cropping and saturation on a few. > > Dave > > -- > Equine Photography > www.caughtinmotion.com > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > Ontario Canada > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO 2008 - 113 - GDG
The music never stops ... this one's for frank, of course. :-) http://homepage.mac.com/godders/113-bicyclist.jpg The Bicyclist - This Cafe Life 2008 Panasonic L1 + Olympus ZD 25mm f/2.8 ISO 800 @ f/2.8 @ 1/15 sec Comments and critique always appreciated. enjoy Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Traffic, what traffic?
I'm as libertarian as the next guy, but mak'emwear helmets. I don't want to pay the public health bills for the long term brain injuries. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:14 AM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As a libertarian I oppose helmet laws on principal, (It's your body, if > you're stupid enough to not wear a helmet, thats fine with me). However > they seem to make for some amusing photographs, so now I'm torn... > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Thanks Dave. We have a helmet law. I guess his toy helmet is judged adequate. >> Paul >> -- Original message -- >> From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>> Ha Ha. >>> >>> Nice catch Paul. >>> >>> The way things are going,m you and Frank should have a lot of scooters >>> to shoot.:-) >>> >>> No helmet laws in Michigan.??or is this a scooter thing. >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> For Frank. Check out that heavy duty brain bucket. Paul http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7521717&size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow >>> the directions. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Equine Photography >>> www.caughtinmotion.com >>> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ >>> Ontario Canada >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow >>> the directions. >>> >> >> >> > > > -- > You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. >--Al Capone. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: At the beach
Its crappy art.:-) I like this one. The line work or curves etc work well. Its a bit dark, but i suspect this was shot really late or really early in the day. Dave On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=240339 > Office friendly, dont worry. > > Exploring new (for me) ground. > > Comments appreciated. I don't know what to think. One part of me says > it's crap, another says it is art. > Most likely it is something between. > > -- > MaritimTim > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Two re-posts
I don't remember seeing these Rick, so its possible they did not get through. Like the tower shot, with the cloud swirls and the moody effect of the Rhine shot. Dave On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Neither of these got any comments, and one of them isn't in the archives, so > they may have gotten lost in holiday cyberspace. > > "Love by the Rhine" was the more recent, taken at dusk in Dusseldorf. It was > an unusual Theriaultian moment for me. > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7510816 > > (K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 560, f/4.5 @ 1/45, RAW via LR). > > The second is a pair: the Rheinturm (Dusseldorf's proud tower), and the view > of the Rhine from the Rheinturm: > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7501703 > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7501725 > > (Same body and lens, RAW via LR) > > Cheers, > > Rick > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Geso Some flowers and birds whilst sitting in the back yard
http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/sets/72157606071323461/ Did a little more shooting of Asian lilies, tiger lilies and bluejays in the back yard the last few days. Still having troubles with the red ones, but some red desaturation in LR and bump up the oranges a bit, seems to help. Anyway, hopefully a nice set of flowers etc to brighten up your day. K10D, some with DA F 50 and some with the Sigma 300 F4. Some LR cropping and saturation on a few. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Backstage...
Good candid shot Doug. The snow fence seems to act like wings, or a cape. Dave On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 12:22 AM, Doug Brewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > enjoy > > http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=283 > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Nothing Good in the News
I like the two opposite expression, while both have reading materials to look at, in there own way. Huh.?? Anyway its good. Dave On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:58 AM, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://tinyurl.com/6oxcf9 > > http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SHSuk6vyg6I/CkY/cyqYLLZnIUo/s1600-h/july_08_08+003.jpg > > Another of my subway series. Comments always welcome. > > cheers, > frank > > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Backstage...
Nice. Crisp image, beautiful colors and great soft light; I also like the background. Cheers Fernando On 7/9/08, Doug Brewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > enjoy > > http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=283 > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Nothing Good in the News
You've obviously gotten to the conversion methods down. It's a nice subtle juxtaposition study, and the tilt gives the "feeling" of riding a commuter train. frank theriault wrote: > http://tinyurl.com/6oxcf9 > > http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SHSuk6vyg6I/CkY/cyqYLLZnIUo/s1600-h/july_08_08+003.jpg > > Another of my subway series. Comments always welcome. > > cheers, > frank > > > -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Traffic, what traffic?
P. J. Alling wrote: > As a libertarian I oppose helmet laws on principal, (It's your body, if > you're stupid enough to not wear a helmet, thats fine with me). However > they seem to make for some amusing photographs, so now I'm torn... > Then I assume you'd back the law that Woody Allen as South American dictator (Bananas) imposed that required everyone to wear their underwear on the outside of their clothes? You'd get some great shots from that. :) -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Traffic, what traffic?
As a libertarian I oppose helmet laws on principal, (It's your body, if you're stupid enough to not wear a helmet, thats fine with me). However they seem to make for some amusing photographs, so now I'm torn... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thanks Dave. We have a helmet law. I guess his toy helmet is judged adequate. > Paul > -- Original message -- > From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Ha Ha. >> >> Nice catch Paul. >> >> The way things are going,m you and Frank should have a lot of scooters >> to shoot.:-) >> >> No helmet laws in Michigan.??or is this a scooter thing. >> >> Dave >> >> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> For Frank. >>> Check out that heavy duty brain bucket. >>> Paul >>> >>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7521717&size=lg >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow >>> >> the directions. >> >> >> -- >> Equine Photography >> www.caughtinmotion.com >> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ >> Ontario Canada >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow >> the directions. >> > > > -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery
AlunFoto wrote: > It's been many months since I last cast any votes at the gallery, so > the situation may have changed. Back then, however, I noticed a > certain variation over time in average image quality. And it wasn't > always a turn for the worse. Just this morning I went through a patch of very good stuff. Didn't last long, though... Godfrey complained about how slow the uploading interface is. I think they should make it *slower*. In fact, I think they should make it so you can only upload one photo at a time, rather than up to 10 in one go, as it is now. That would make people more selective about what they upload. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery
I've imagined seeing many "me too" versions of a particular type or style of scene. As though there were a certain combination of elements that assured acceptance. Maybe that is evidence of learning.(?) Jack --- On Wed, 7/9/08, AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 6:51 AM > It's been many months since I last cast any votes at the > gallery, so > the situation may have changed. Back then, however, I > noticed a > certain variation over time in average image quality. And > it wasn't > always a turn for the worse. In periods, people would > restrict > themselves very sensibly, and at other times spam the > gallery > completely. On a couple of occasions, the submission > quality improved > after someone delivered a scolding post to the Pentax SLR > forum at > dpReview. > > One very funny incident was when a photo club in Hong Kong > had done an > outing, and made night shots of a particular bridge in Hong > Kong. Many > of the shots credited one gallery member for arranging the > outing, and > seemed to submit their photos to the Pentax Gallery as a > sort of "I > was there too" statement. Practically all the photos > were the same; > possibly cropped to match the first of the submitted. The > first one > got in, the rest was thrown out. :-) > > Jostein > > > 2008/7/9 Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > David J Brooks wrote: > >> If Bruce gets 1-10 and Godders get 0-30, no wonder > none of mine have > >> been accepted > > > > I think Bruce was saying that when he votes on *other* > people's shots he > > gives 1 yes vote out of every 10 photos. > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > > > > > > -- > http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ > http://alunfoto.blogspot.com > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery
It's been many months since I last cast any votes at the gallery, so the situation may have changed. Back then, however, I noticed a certain variation over time in average image quality. And it wasn't always a turn for the worse. In periods, people would restrict themselves very sensibly, and at other times spam the gallery completely. On a couple of occasions, the submission quality improved after someone delivered a scolding post to the Pentax SLR forum at dpReview. One very funny incident was when a photo club in Hong Kong had done an outing, and made night shots of a particular bridge in Hong Kong. Many of the shots credited one gallery member for arranging the outing, and seemed to submit their photos to the Pentax Gallery as a sort of "I was there too" statement. Practically all the photos were the same; possibly cropped to match the first of the submitted. The first one got in, the rest was thrown out. :-) Jostein 2008/7/9 Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > David J Brooks wrote: >> If Bruce gets 1-10 and Godders get 0-30, no wonder none of mine have >> been accepted > > I think Bruce was saying that when he votes on *other* people's shots he > gives 1 yes vote out of every 10 photos. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Nothing Good in the News
Excellent, and just the way the newspaper makes me feel most mornings. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Wed, 7/9/08, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: PESO - Nothing Good in the News > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 8:58 AM > http://tinyurl.com/6oxcf9 > > http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SHSuk6vyg6I/CkY/cyqYLLZnIUo/s1600-h/july_08_08+003.jpg > > Another of my subway series. Comments always welcome. > > cheers, > frank > > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri > Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Nothing Good in the News
Maybe she's just realizing she forgot her glasses. ;) Really well done reflection of the age divide and, perhaps, a willingness to confront the realities of the world.(?) Jack --- On Wed, 7/9/08, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: PESO - Nothing Good in the News > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 5:58 AM > http://tinyurl.com/6oxcf9 > > http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SHSuk6vyg6I/CkY/cyqYLLZnIUo/s1600-h/july_08_08+003.jpg > > Another of my subway series. Comments always welcome. > > cheers, > frank > > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri > Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - At the Show
David J Brooks wrote: > Nice shot, in what looks like trricky lighting. > > LLike the line up. > > Dave thanks, Dave. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Nothing Good in the News
Good one. Shot from the hip? Paul -- Original message -- From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > http://tinyurl.com/6oxcf9 > > http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SHSuk6vyg6I/CkY/cyqYLLZnIUo/s1600-h/ > july_08_08+003.jpg > > Another of my subway series. Comments always welcome. > > cheers, > frank > > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Scooting Along Bloor
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 7:40 AM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I think it's interesting that you and Steady chose similar subjects today. > > Its a consperisy.:-) > >> >> I like the panning and the sense of motion, but agree that a more inclusive >> pic would be better. > > Yes i am going to go along with th eothers and suggest a bit of a > looser crop next time, if you can Thanks, Dave, and thanks to everyone else who commented. Seems that the consensus is that it's too tight, so I guess my initial instincts were right on that score. I guess I tried to convince myself that it could work. :-) Anyway, it's an "almost" shot - not horrible, but not quite a keeper either. Thanks to everyone for your opinions. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Nothing Good in the News
Maybe she's mugging a housefly. (nice shot, although I wouldn't want to mess with her.) Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/9/2008 8:58 AM >>> http://tinyurl.com/6oxcf9 http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SHSuk6vyg6I/CkY/cyqYLLZnIUo/s1600-h/july_08_08+003.jpg Another of my subway series. Comments always welcome. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:4874b98f67105917919702! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Nothing Good in the News
http://tinyurl.com/6oxcf9 http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SHSuk6vyg6I/CkY/cyqYLLZnIUo/s1600-h/july_08_08+003.jpg Another of my subway series. Comments always welcome. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Snake!
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 8:58 AM, wendy beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A Common Garter snake which was lurking round outside the house yesterday. > > http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/99626733 > Another one that I looked at much earlier, but never got around to commenting on. The DOF makes it! Very cool shot. Nice of him to "pose" for you with all squiggles as he fades into a lovely blur. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Finch Tryst
Thanks, Dave! Jack --- On Wed, 7/9/08, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: PESO: Finch Tryst > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 4:18 AM > Well it works for me. > > Like it. > > Dave > > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Jack Davis > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No, simply blew it out with the bright slider in the > drop down "enhance" menu. I liked the gritty > look, so just left it there. > > Thanks for comments, Paul. > > > > Jack > > > > > > --- On Mon, 7/7/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Subject: Re: PESO: Finch Tryst > >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > > >> Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 4:28 PM > >> Good catch of a nice moment. Did you pull the > highlights > >> down as far as possible in RAW conversion? It > might benefit > >> a bit from that. But I like it as presented. > >> Paul > >> -- Original message > -- > >> From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > Just veg'n on the patio when this pair > began to > >> "carry on". Had the FA 80~320 > >> > nearby. > >> > Gave it a seedy unseemly look for naughty > impact. > >> Notice they, also, appear to > >> > be playing footsie. !! > >> > > >> > Jack(voyeur) > >> > > >> > > >> > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=316 > >> > > >> > Comments always welcome. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> > PDML@pdml.net > >> > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit > the link > >> directly above and follow > >> > the directions. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> PDML@pdml.net > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the > link > >> directly above and follow the directions. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > > > > > > -- > Equine Photography > www.caughtinmotion.com > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > Ontario Canada > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: At the beach
Thank you sir. For the thumb up, and for your reasoning. Appreciated. 2008/7/9 AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 2008/7/8 Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> In shorts, a experiment. It came out a lot better than expected. From >> a photographic point of view, I think it's crap. But I tend to like it >> as a picture. Maybe I'm biased? > > Technically this shot is just right, imho. Focus just where it should > be. Background dark enough to lift the subject very nicely. Foreground > pleasantly soft to minimise distraction. IOW, DOF is ideally placed, > and the bokeh works. So why do you consider it crappy? - Disclose your > bias! :-) > > Compositionally, it is a bit heavy to the left for my personal liking, > but I see the merits of leaving a lot of space on the RH side too. It > is certainly the kind of pic that could easily be hung on a wall. I > like it a lot, Tim. > > Jostein > > > -- > http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ > http://alunfoto.blogspot.com > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- MaritimTim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Traffic, what traffic?
Thanks Dave. We have a helmet law. I guess his toy helmet is judged adequate. Paul -- Original message -- From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Ha Ha. > > Nice catch Paul. > > The way things are going,m you and Frank should have a lot of scooters > to shoot.:-) > > No helmet laws in Michigan.??or is this a scooter thing. > > Dave > > On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For Frank. > > Check out that heavy duty brain bucket. > > Paul > > > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7521717&size=lg > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow > the directions. > > > > > > -- > Equine Photography > www.caughtinmotion.com > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > Ontario Canada > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery
David J Brooks wrote: > If Bruce gets 1-10 and Godders get 0-30, no wonder none of mine have > been accepted I think Bruce was saying that when he votes on *other* people's shots he gives 1 yes vote out of every 10 photos. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Question to birding people
Cotty wrote: > On 9/7/08, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> I have sat down at the path, to get a BIF or two, > > Bird In Focus? ;) Bicycle in Focus. Ask Frank about it... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Scooting Along Bloor
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think it's interesting that you and Steady chose similar subjects today. Its a consperisy.:-) > > I like the panning and the sense of motion, but agree that a more inclusive > pic would be better. Yes i am going to go along with th eothers and suggest a bit of a looser crop next time, if you can Dave > > Cheers, > > Rick > > http://photo.net/photos/RickW > > > --- On Tue, 7/8/08, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: PESO - Scooting Along Bloor >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >> Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 9:02 AM >> If you haven't noticed, I have a weakness for scooters: >> >> http://tinyurl.com/68t52g >> >> http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SHNa0E61IzI/CkI/MsROvCSMkUs/s1600-h/july_07_08+007.jpg >> >> When I first looked at this on the back of the camera, I >> was thinking >> that I should have zoomed out a bit to get the whole >> scooter, but the >> more I look at this the more I like it with the tight >> "crop" (it's >> actually shown full frame). Any thoughts? Is it too >> tight? At least >> this way it's different from my other scooter grabs. >> >> Comments appreciated. >> >> cheers, >> frank >> >> -- >> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri >> Cartier-Bresson >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link >> directly above and follow the directions. > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Kennyboy has a hands off review on the new Nikon D700
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 2:19 PM, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> What is the URL for this review? His opinion, quoted below, doesn't >> sound so off-base to me. > > Whether off-base or not (and I really don't give a rat's ass, since > I'm never going to own that particular camera, or any other Nikon, for > that matter), Nor did I.:-) > Seems that all he's doing is reading a spec sheet and commenting on that. I once bought a Moose Petterson or is it Patterson, book for the D2H. Its claim was many fantiastic tips and tricks. This is when i was having set up problems with it. Bought the book, and it was basically a reword of the Nikon manual. Never again Dave > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery
If Bruce gets 1-10 and Godders get 0-30, no wonder none of mine have been accepted, since voting became the norm. Dave On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > my average is about the same 1 in 10 gets a thumbs up. > > -- > Best regards, > Bruce > > > Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 10:15:28 AM, you wrote: > > MR> They should start charging us (the Gallery participants) a dollar per > MR> photo for uploads! Maybe five dollars... > > MR> No, I'm not serious (though I'd gladly pay it for the 1 or 2 photos per > MR> month that I submit) but it would sure cut down on people uploading 10 > MR> nearly-identical vacation snapshots. Or flowers. Or shots of their kids. > > MR> I do find voting on submitted photos very educational and it definitely > MR> helps my "eye", but the ratio of "thumbs up" to "thumbs down" is taking > MR> a big turn for the worse. I used to average 1 in 5 yes votes. Now I > MR> think it's below 1 in 10. > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Finch Tryst
Well it works for me. Like it. Dave On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, simply blew it out with the bright slider in the drop down "enhance" > menu. I liked the gritty look, so just left it there. > Thanks for comments, Paul. > > Jack > > > --- On Mon, 7/7/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: PESO: Finch Tryst >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >> Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 4:28 PM >> Good catch of a nice moment. Did you pull the highlights >> down as far as possible in RAW conversion? It might benefit >> a bit from that. But I like it as presented. >> Paul >> -- Original message -- >> From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Just veg'n on the patio when this pair began to >> "carry on". Had the FA 80~320 >> > nearby. >> > Gave it a seedy unseemly look for naughty impact. >> Notice they, also, appear to >> > be playing footsie. !! >> > >> > Jack(voyeur) >> > >> > >> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=316 >> > >> > Comments always welcome. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> > PDML@pdml.net >> > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link >> directly above and follow >> > the directions. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link >> directly above and follow the directions. > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Traffic, what traffic?
Ha Ha. Nice catch Paul. The way things are going,m you and Frank should have a lot of scooters to shoot.:-) No helmet laws in Michigan.??or is this a scooter thing. Dave On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For Frank. > Check out that heavy duty brain bucket. > Paul > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7521717&size=lg > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - At the Show
Nice shot, in what looks like trricky lighting. LLike the line up. Dave On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Doug Brewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > for you people fans: > > http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=280 > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
