Re: OT - Computer advice wanted.

[Boris Liberman]

Anthony,

Are you 100% certain it is the hard drive that is producing these
clicks? May be it is one of the fans?

I should also mention, that for the future, you'd consider portable
applications. My WinXP uses all together 2.1 Gb of space with the
programs that I cannot use in portable mode. The rest (few GB) are on
the other drive and they are portable, so that I can easily backup
them just as a bunch of files.

Just my cents...

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Anthony Farr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My hard drive has the death clicks.  Previously I had a couple of noisy
> (clattery) startups but it has run quietly so I've just left it on full
> time.  Today the clicking has become almost constant.  What do I need to do
> or get (apart from a replacement HD) to "clone" or "ghost" the OS and
> software over to another drive?  I want to avoid a clean install because of
> the enormous number of updates between the build version of XP that I have
> on my backup discs, and SP3.  I also want to avoid having to reinstall and
> configure my other software.
>
> Should I leave it on despite the clicks?  I worry that if I shut down it
> won't reboot.  It's Win XP Home.
>
> Regards,
> Anthony Farr
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Re: PESO - Railroad Days

[Brian Walters]

Enjoyable gallery, George.  Looks great in the slideshow view

I like the detail shot of the drive wheel but my favourite is probably
the front end view of engine 4023.




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On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:47:42 -0500, "George Sinos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> The annual Railroad Days event was last week.  Several museums in the
> Omaha, Nebraska/Council Bluffs, Iowa vicinity get together to put on a
> celebration of the contribution to the areas history and growth.  The
> two cities are connected by a bridges spanning the Missouri river.
> This is where the Union Pacific started building track to connect to
> the west cost.
> 
> Here are a few shots, and a gallery of shots from the event.
> 
> This is a "detail" of a steam locomotive drive wheel.  I'm not sure
> how well it will show on your monitors, but there is a great amount of
> shadow detail captured in this image.  It intend to make a relatively
> large print.
> 
> 
> 
> This is the interior of the restored Omaha Union Station shot with the
> Pentax 10-14 zoom.  This is about an 80$ crop from the original image.
>  I'm having great fun learning to use this lens.  If I get a little
> time I'll collect a few shots from this lens and put them in a sample
> gallery.  I'm also enjoying the low light performance of the K20d.
> 
> 
> 
> Here's the full gallery.
> 
> 
> 
> GS
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Re: PESO: Hot Air

[Doug Franklin]

D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote:

>>> Well here's a photo where I'm not complaining about heat shimmer.

> 

Yep, that's definitely the engine's heat plume rather than the downwash 
from the rotor that causing that "eddy effect" in the lights to the 
right of the 'copter.

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Re: PESO: Pensive

[P. J. Alling]

It's more or less a normal lens on the APS-C sensor cameras, (true 
normal equivalent to the 43mm on film), and a relatively slow normal 
lens at that.  I currently carry an A 24mm f2.8 for a wide, 43 ltd.as a 
longish normal and the M 85 f2 for a nice general telephoto as my 
walking around kit.  There really isn't a place in that lineup for the 
30mm.  Now if my widest rectilinear prime was a 20mm then I could 
replace the 43mm with the 30mm or the 35mm f2.0..

Subash wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:24:50 -0400
> "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> I think it's one of the nicest lenses Pentax has ever made in that
>> focal length, (~28mm).  I don't use mine nearly enough since I shoot
>> mostly digital.
>> 
>
> thank you Peter. it certainly feels very compact and solidly built. i
> think i'd be using it quite often with the k10d. just curious, why
> aren't you using it that often with digital? it seems to give good
> results...
>
> regards, subash
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RE: OT I think George has found a home.

[John Coyle]

I think we have a poltergeist, or maybe had one: a month or so ago, one
shelf of books in our bedroom was swept to the floor in the middle of the
night, waking us both.  The shelf, which is simply resting on the brackets,
was still in place, but the books weren't!
My daughter-in-law swears our place is haunted, and occasionally I feel I've
seen movement out of the corner of my eye, but there is nothing/nobody
there.
BTW, our apartment is only thirty years old...


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Brisbane, Australia



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On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Doug Franklin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> David J Brooks wrote:
>
>> Thats what we used to have to do.
>> Give him a holler and he'd slow down for a bit, then get right on it
again.
>
> When I was a teenager, we had a poltergeist in the house that would slam
> doors and windows, but we never really noticed anything else.  Stuff
> like there was one window that a previous owner had painted shut, and
> we'd never been able to get it open.  Then one afternoon, we hear BAM!
> BAM! from the back of the house and that window worked fine ever after.

You could be sitting in the house, reading or what ever, then you
would hear this tremendous sound of smashing glass. At first i thought
it was the little deviates from the farm next door throwing rocks.
I would check every window inside and out, plus storms stored in the
basement, incase they fell over, but nothing ever found.

Many previous and post Brooks tenants  told the same story.

Dave
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Re: PESO: Pensive

[Subash]

On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:24:50 -0400
"P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I think it's one of the nicest lenses Pentax has ever made in that
> focal length, (~28mm).  I don't use mine nearly enough since I shoot
> mostly digital.

thank you Peter. it certainly feels very compact and solidly built. i
think i'd be using it quite often with the k10d. just curious, why
aren't you using it that often with digital? it seems to give good
results...

regards, subash

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Re: PESO: Pensive

[Subash]

On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:48:45 -0400
"David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yes the first one looks very pensive.:-)
> 
> Good angle and expression

thank you Davefun story about George. :-)
regards, subash.

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Re: Pensive

[Subash]

On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:40:59 -0500
"Christine  Aguila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Subash:  These are sweet & fun--or sweetly fun--congrats on the new
> lens. Cheers, Christine

> > the pensive one:
> > http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/PESO/photo#5225093774357736482
> >
> > the not so pensive one (slightly cropped):
> > http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/PESO/photo#5225093772359629042

thanks christine for looking and the comment. i am enjoying the 'new'
lens...

regards, subash

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Re: PESO: Moon Over the Tenements

[Christine Aguila]

Jack, Jostein, Ann, Dave B., Peter, Ken & Paul:  Thanks much for the 
generous remarks.  Much appreciated.  Jack:  Thanks for the reminder about 
moon placement.  I needed to hear that--needed to be reminded about the 
danger of a too centered moon.  Peter, see my note off list.  Maybe 
tomorrow, I'll post a pic of the power line view I have outside my window 
facing the alley--just for fun.  Big thanks, Cheers, Christine


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> Outstanding lighting makes for very nice overall mood.
> Moon is 'just' enough off center to make it work.
>
> Jack
>
>
> --- On Sun, 7/20/08, Christine Aguila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> From: Christine Aguila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: PESO:  Moon Over the Tenements
>> To: pdml@pdml.net
>> Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008, 10:19 AM
>> Hi Everyone:  I was up & down the backstairs last night
>> doing laundry &
>> caught this between laundry loads:  view from my
>> backstairs.  I did a crop
>> without the top of the garage in the bottom of the frame,
>> but didn't like it
>> at all.  Greatly altered the feel of the frame.
>>
>> K10D, 50-135mm @ 50mm, 1.3 sec @ 2.8, +1EV, ISO 200,
>> handheld
>>
>>
>> Small
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7583302
>>
>> Larger
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7583207
>>
>> Frank comments/critique very welcome.
>>
>> Cheers, Christine
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Re: Moon Over the Tenements

[Paul Stenquist]

Very nice. Very Chicago. Love it.
Paul
On Jul 20, 2008, at 6:34 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

> Nice capture as is.
>
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Christine Aguila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Subject: PESO: Moon Over the Tenements
>
>
>> Hi Everyone:  I was up & down the backstairs last night doing  
>> laundry &
>> caught this between laundry loads:  view from my backstairs.  I  
>> did a crop
>> without the top of the garage in the bottom of the frame, but  
>> didn't like
>> it
>> at all.  Greatly altered the feel of the frame.
>>
>> K10D, 50-135mm @ 50mm, 1.3 sec @ 2.8, +1EV, ISO 200, handheld
>>
>>
>> Small
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7583302
>>
>> Larger
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7583207
>>
>> Frank comments/critique very welcome.
>>
>> Cheers, Christine
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Re: Morning (Revised)

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Ken. Here's a man who knows how colorful Michigan is at this  
time of year.
Paul
On Jul 20, 2008, at 6:21 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

> My vote is for the original - hell if you've got the color - flaunt  
> it.
>
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Subject: PESO: Morning (Revised)
>
>
>> I did a new conversion of this shot. Less saturation, warmer light,
>> less sharpening, and a bit of burning in of the brighter elements.
>> It's here:
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7582506&size=lg
>>
>> And here's the original "Velveetasized" version:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7581535&size=lg
>>
>> The original is more surreal, which isn't necessarily wrong, but I
>> think I prefer the more subtle version. What say you?
>>
>> Paul
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Re: Pentax pro service in Europe?

[Boyd Noorda, Socia Media]

Hi Dom,

> I'm not a professional but i know it 's possible to take your cameras
> to Pentax France or send it through the post (in a Paris suburb) for
> repairs and they send it back.  Not the same in the Netherlands ? 

No, first to the dealer, then to Pentax NL, on to Pentax Belgium, and on 
on to Germany if they can't fix it. Labeling it 'professional use' and 
calling a lot helps speeding things up a bit, but still looking at weeks 
(best case).

There is a good workshop here in town for Canon and Nikon (and willing to 
do Pentax too). Would be so nice to make that happen, but did not find/get 
info on Pentax policies for that yet.

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Re: Pentax pro service in Europe?

[Cotty]

On 20/7/08, Mme RD, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I'm not a professional

J'ai entendu différent ;)

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Re: Pentax pro service in Europe?

[Cotty]

On 20/7/08, Boyd Noorda, Socia Media, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Is there any quick, professional service for Pentax

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Re: PESO: Poisoning ...

[Brian Walters]

On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:20:10 -0400 (EDT), "Igor Roshchin"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> 
> 
> ... Pigeons in the Park
> (with apologies to Tom Lehrer 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhuMLpdnOjY )
> 
> I think it is funny (diptych):
> http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Mixed-2008/PigeonsC.jpg
> 


Certainly brightened up my morning..

We have a bird bath in our backyard where local parrots (rainbow
lorikeets) do much the same thing as these pigeons.  I've never been
able to capture a good shot of their 'bathing".

That's a great pair of shots.

(Thanks also for the U tube link to Tom Lehrer - one of my favourite
Lehrer songs!)



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RE: OT - Computer advice wanted.

[Boyd Noorda, Socia Media]

Hi,

> My data files are on a second drive in the case which is newer and in
> good health.  The C:drive only has the OS and programs, although the
> contents of Outlook will be on C:  I guess I should back those up so I
> don't lose Address Book and Organiser contents. 
> 
> I'll leave things running for now (it gets quiet when it's just idling) and
> get some cloning software and a new drive tomorrow.

The best image is always made when Windows is not running. And backing up 
while Windows is running may cause a lot of extra drive activity (not nice 
when it starts failing).

Here is another one, which will also run from a live CD (the Bart PE live 
CD, which you need to make yourself). It will cause the least stress to 
the drive. http://www.drivesnapshot.de/en/index.htm
BartPE CD: http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder

Boyd

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Re: Moon Over the Tenements

[Ken Waller]

Nice capture as is.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Christine Aguila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: PESO: Moon Over the Tenements


> Hi Everyone:  I was up & down the backstairs last night doing laundry &
> caught this between laundry loads:  view from my backstairs.  I did a crop
> without the top of the garage in the bottom of the frame, but didn't like 
> it
> at all.  Greatly altered the feel of the frame.
>
> K10D, 50-135mm @ 50mm, 1.3 sec @ 2.8, +1EV, ISO 200, handheld
>
>
> Small
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7583302
>
> Larger
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7583207
>
> Frank comments/critique very welcome.
>
> Cheers, Christine


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Re: GESO Damselflies

[Ken Waller]

The first is very nice - well done.
The sceond suffers from a too busy background.

Kenneth Waller
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Subject: GESO Damselflies


> Two damselflies:
> 
> http://www.repiuk.nl/peso
> 
> K10D DA55-300 @ 300mm, 1/180, f8, 1.2 meter. Used a monopod and SR.
> Click the thumbnail for a larger version.
> 
> 
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Re: Morning (Revised)

[Ken Waller]

My vote is for the original - hell if you've got the color - flaunt it.

Kenneth Waller
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Subject: PESO: Morning (Revised)


>I did a new conversion of this shot. Less saturation, warmer light,  
> less sharpening, and a bit of burning in of the brighter elements.  
> It's here:
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7582506&size=lg
> 
> And here's the original "Velveetasized" version:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7581535&size=lg
> 
> The original is more surreal, which isn't necessarily wrong, but I  
> think I prefer the more subtle version. What say you?
> 
> Paul


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PESO: Poisoning ...

[Igor Roshchin]

... Pigeons in the Park
(with apologies to Tom Lehrer 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhuMLpdnOjY )

I think it is funny (diptych):
http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Mixed-2008/PigeonsC.jpg

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Re: Morning

[Ken Waller]

Great shot Paul.

Nice use of the early morning light.

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RE: OT PESOs: black dog

[Bob W]

I like the night safe shot - very good and atmospheric. 

Not so sure about the ambulance shot, although perhaps I was confused
by you calling it 'ambo'. It took a while for me to realise you meant
ambulance - ambo is Latin for 'both' and is sometimes seen in English
place names, such as Huttons Ambo. It's also the name of a type of
mineral water (which tastes horrible, I prefer Babile which even
sounds bubbly) sold in Ethiopia.

Bob

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Derby Chang
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> I'm in that mood. I apologise (for the OT, and the mood)
> 
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_07/08_07_ambo/01.htm
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Re: PESO: Morning (Revised)

[P. J. Alling]

It's only a small tree.  You could always cut it down after you clone it 
out.  Then it would still be your garden...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Thanks to all who responded.
> Yeah, I don't like the tree there either, but it's there:-). I could clone it 
> out, but then it wouldn't be my garden. I sometimes shoot the garden from 
> overhead and eliminate the tree, but here I wanted the hazy background.
> Paul
>  -- Original message --
> From: ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   
>> I say yes to this version over the other... looks more real, which I 
>> prefer to surreal.
>> One thing bothers me, though,  the tree almost dead  center ... I wish 
>> it were more in fog like the others..
>> it is such a strong dark line it keeps pulling my eye to it... where as 
>> everythng else is so lovely it kinda gets in the
>> way... in the manner of the telepone pole or tree coming out of the top 
>> of someones head does...
>> without fudging too much, making it fainter would improve it ...  
>>
>> ann
>>
>>
>> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> I did a new conversion of this shot. Less saturation, warmer light,  
>>> less sharpening, and a bit of burning in of the brighter elements.  
>>> It's here:
>>>
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7582506&size=lg
>>>
>>> And here's the original "Velveetasized" version:
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7581535&size=lg
>>>
>>> The original is more surreal, which isn't necessarily wrong, but I  
>>> think I prefer the more subtle version. What say you?
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>   
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Re: PESO: Morning (Revised)

[pnstenquist]

Thanks to all who responded.
Yeah, I don't like the tree there either, but it's there:-). I could clone it 
out, but then it wouldn't be my garden. I sometimes shoot the garden from 
overhead and eliminate the tree, but here I wanted the hazy background.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I say yes to this version over the other... looks more real, which I 
> prefer to surreal.
> One thing bothers me, though,  the tree almost dead  center ... I wish 
> it were more in fog like the others..
> it is such a strong dark line it keeps pulling my eye to it... where as 
> everythng else is so lovely it kinda gets in the
> way... in the manner of the telepone pole or tree coming out of the top 
> of someones head does...
> without fudging too much, making it fainter would improve it ...  
> 
> ann
> 
> 
> Paul Stenquist wrote:
> 
> >I did a new conversion of this shot. Less saturation, warmer light,  
> >less sharpening, and a bit of burning in of the brighter elements.  
> >It's here:
> >
> >http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7582506&size=lg
> >
> >And here's the original "Velveetasized" version:
> >http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7581535&size=lg
> >
> >The original is more surreal, which isn't necessarily wrong, but I  
> >think I prefer the more subtle version. What say you?
> >
> >Paul
> >
> >  
> >
> 
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Re: OT - Computer advice wanted.

[P. J. Alling]

EP uses the NTFS file system, with no real modifications AFAIK and you 
can "force" it to run on DOS 7.0 formated disks so I expect any good 
cloning software will work.

Mat Maessen wrote:
> On 7/20/08, Anthony Farr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> My hard drive has the death clicks.  Previously I had a couple of noisy
>>  (clattery) startups but it has run quietly so I've just left it on full
>> 
> ...
>   
>>  Should I leave it on despite the clicks?  I worry that if I shut down it
>>  won't reboot.  It's Win XP Home.
>> 
>
> Definitely get the external drive and start backing it up now.
>
> If you do need to shut it down, you may be able to recover the files
> off of the drive by putting the drive into an external enclosure, and
> putting the enclosure in the freezer. A USB cable will route out
> through the freezer's door seal quite nicely. :-)
>
> I'm not sure what cloning software exists for XP, though I bet someone
> else on the list does.
>
> -Mat
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Re: OT - Computer advice wanted.

[P. J. Alling]

There are a number of products including some shareware, but I've always 
used Norton Ghost, the last good Norton product that Symantic hasn't 
ruined.  Then again I'm using a relitively old version so maybe Symantic 
has ruined it too...

Anthony Farr wrote:
> My hard drive has the death clicks.  Previously I had a couple of noisy
> (clattery) startups but it has run quietly so I've just left it on full
> time.  Today the clicking has become almost constant.  What do I need to do
> or get (apart from a replacement HD) to "clone" or "ghost" the OS and
> software over to another drive?  I want to avoid a clean install because of
> the enormous number of updates between the build version of XP that I have
> on my backup discs, and SP3.  I also want to avoid having to reinstall and
> configure my other software.   
>
> Should I leave it on despite the clicks?  I worry that if I shut down it
> won't reboot.  It's Win XP Home.
>
> Regards,
> Anthony Farr
>
>
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Re: PESO: Moon Over the Tenements

[P. J. Alling]

I like the general composition, but I don't like the color cast and the 
moon could be better placed...
(I've sent you a suggestion off list).

Christine Aguila wrote:
> Hi Everyone:  I was up & down the backstairs last night doing laundry & 
> caught this between laundry loads:  view from my backstairs.  I did a crop 
> without the top of the garage in the bottom of the frame, but didn't like it 
> at all.  Greatly altered the feel of the frame.
>
> K10D, 50-135mm @ 50mm, 1.3 sec @ 2.8, +1EV, ISO 200, handheld
>
>
> Small
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7583302
>
> Larger
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7583207
>
> Frank comments/critique very welcome.
>
> Cheers, Christine 
>
>
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Re: OT - Computer advice wanted.

[mike wilson]

http://www.grc.com/spinrite.htm
> 
> From: Anthony Farr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2008/07/20 Sun PM 06:07:28 GMT
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: OT - Computer advice wanted.
> 
> My hard drive has the death clicks.  Previously I had a couple of noisy
> (clattery) startups but it has run quietly so I've just left it on full
> time.  Today the clicking has become almost constant.  What do I need to do
> or get (apart from a replacement HD) to "clone" or "ghost" the OS and
> software over to another drive?  I want to avoid a clean install because of
> the enormous number of updates between the build version of XP that I have
> on my backup discs, and SP3.  I also want to avoid having to reinstall and
> configure my other software.   
> 
> Should I leave it on despite the clicks?  I worry that if I shut down it
> won't reboot.  It's Win XP Home.
> 
> Regards,
> Anthony Farr
> 
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Re: GESO Damselflies

[Toine]

Christine, Nice to hear you liked them. Thanks!
Jack: Only cropped horizontal to get a 1:1 ratio and a little
additional vertical crop.

Toine

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 7:25 PM, Christine  Aguila
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Very nice, Toine:  I prefer the 1st one:  the greens are lovely, & nice
> clear background.  In the second one the background is a little distracting,
> but I do like the orangey colors in the second one--still that 1st one is
> most excellent.  More nice work, Toine.  Really enjoy seeing your photos.
> Cheers, Christine
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Toine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 11:45 AM
> Subject: GESO Damselflies
>
>
>> Two damselflies:
>>
>> http://www.repiuk.nl/peso
>>
>> K10D DA55-300 @ 300mm, 1/180, f8, 1.2 meter. Used a monopod and SR.
>> Click the thumbnail for a larger version.
>>
>>
>> Toine
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Re: OT - Computer advice wanted.

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Anthony Farr"
Subject: RE: OT - Computer advice wanted.


> My data files are on a second drive in the case which is newer and in good
> health.  The C:drive only has the OS and programs, although the contents of
> Outlook will be on C:  I guess I should back those up so I don't lose
> Address Book and Organiser contents.
>
> I'll leave things running for now (it gets quiet when it's just idling) and
> get some cloning software and a new drive tomorrow.
>
> Thank you to the responders who've given me some hope.

I don't mind reinstalling programs, but I hate losing data.
In Outlook Express you can change the store directory to a different location 
than the stock 
one. I don't know if Outlook will allow this though.
I changed my store directory to my mirrored drive.
I also regulary back my bookmarks file and anything else I can think of that is 
stored by 
default on my C drive to my RAID1 drive.


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RE: OT - Computer advice wanted.

[Anthony Farr]

My data files are on a second drive in the case which is newer and in good
health.  The C:drive only has the OS and programs, although the contents of
Outlook will be on C:  I guess I should back those up so I don't lose
Address Book and Organiser contents.

I'll leave things running for now (it gets quiet when it's just idling) and
get some cloning software and a new drive tomorrow.

Thank you to the responders who've given me some hope.

Regards,
Anthony Farr

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Mark Roberts
> Sent: Monday, 21 July 2008 4:56 AM
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> Subject: Re: OT - Computer advice wanted.
> 
> Mat Maessen wrote:
> > On 7/20/08, Anthony Farr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> My hard drive has the death clicks.  Previously I had a couple of noisy
> >>  (clattery) startups but it has run quietly so I've just left it on
full
> > ...
> >>  Should I leave it on despite the clicks?  I worry that if I shut down
it
> >>  won't reboot.  It's Win XP Home.
> >
> > Definitely get the external drive and start backing it up now.
> >
> > If you do need to shut it down, you may be able to recover the files
> > off of the drive by putting the drive into an external enclosure, and
> > putting the enclosure in the freezer. A USB cable will route out
> > through the freezer's door seal quite nicely. :-)
> >
> > I'm not sure what cloning software exists for XP, though I bet someone
> > else on the list does.
> 
> Norton Ghost   http://www.symantec.com/norton/ghost
> Acronis True Image http://www.acronis.com/
> 
> There are probably others.
> 
> But, like Bill said, start copying your data files to another drive now.
> Re-installing the O.S. and your apps after a drive failure is a pain in
> the butt, but losing your data files really sucks.
> 
> I have two hard drives on my computer and one holds the O.S. *only*. And
> I back it up with Norton Ghost once a week.
> 
> I keep my data mirrored on an external drive.
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Re: Pentax pro service in Europe?

[Mme RD]

I'm not a professional but i know it 's possible to take your cameras to 
Pentax France or send it through the post (in a Paris suburb) for 
repairs and they send it back.  Not the same in the Netherlands ?

dom


AlunFoto a écrit :
> I've never heard of any dedicated pro-service challel in Europe. But
> it may be because I'm not a professional :-)
>
> As to independent repair shops... I hope someone from NL can answer
> you more accurately.
>
> Best,
> Jostein
>
> 2008/7/20 Boyd Noorda, Socia Media <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>   
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I've recently joined this list, hoping people may help me with this
>> question:
>>
>> Is there any quick, professional service for Pentax in Europe or even The
>> Netherlands? It does not have to be a place where they can do major
>> repairs, just fixing focus errors and other adjustments in lenses and
>> bodies.
>>
>> Could also be a independent camera repair shop, but I don't know what
>> policy Pentax has for independent workshops. Are they able to get service
>> manuals, a null body, etc?
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Boyd Noorda, The Hague
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Re: OT - Computer advice wanted.

[Mark Roberts]

Mat Maessen wrote:
> On 7/20/08, Anthony Farr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> My hard drive has the death clicks.  Previously I had a couple of noisy
>>  (clattery) startups but it has run quietly so I've just left it on full
> ...
>>  Should I leave it on despite the clicks?  I worry that if I shut down it
>>  won't reboot.  It's Win XP Home.
> 
> Definitely get the external drive and start backing it up now.
> 
> If you do need to shut it down, you may be able to recover the files
> off of the drive by putting the drive into an external enclosure, and
> putting the enclosure in the freezer. A USB cable will route out
> through the freezer's door seal quite nicely. :-)
> 
> I'm not sure what cloning software exists for XP, though I bet someone
> else on the list does.

Norton Ghost   http://www.symantec.com/norton/ghost
Acronis True Image http://www.acronis.com/

There are probably others.

But, like Bill said, start copying your data files to another drive now. 
Re-installing the O.S. and your apps after a drive failure is a pain in 
the butt, but losing your data files really sucks.

I have two hard drives on my computer and one holds the O.S. *only*. And 
I back it up with Norton Ghost once a week.

I keep my data mirrored on an external drive.

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Re: XMP files

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Walter Hamler wrote:
> I usually shoot RAW's in dng format. However I shot some today in PEF.
> When I opened a few in ACR and saved them as jpegs there was an
> aditional xmp file saved seperately in the same folder. Are they data
> files for the exif data?

They are files containing the raw conversion data for Camera Raw or 
Lightroom. When you set conversion parameters in ACR or Lightroom, the 
actual raw file doesn't get changed, the conversion settings you 
specified are just saved in a format called XMP (for Extensible Metadata 
Platform). The DNG format was designed from the outset for this kind of 
thing so the XMP data is saved within the DNG file (so you can never 
lose or accidentally delete it). With all other raw formats, the XMP 
data gets saved in a separate XMP "sidecar" file.


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Re: OT - Computer advice wanted.

[Mat Maessen]

On 7/20/08, Anthony Farr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My hard drive has the death clicks.  Previously I had a couple of noisy
>  (clattery) startups but it has run quietly so I've just left it on full
...
>  Should I leave it on despite the clicks?  I worry that if I shut down it
>  won't reboot.  It's Win XP Home.

Definitely get the external drive and start backing it up now.

If you do need to shut it down, you may be able to recover the files
off of the drive by putting the drive into an external enclosure, and
putting the enclosure in the freezer. A USB cable will route out
through the freezer's door seal quite nicely. :-)

I'm not sure what cloning software exists for XP, though I bet someone
else on the list does.

-Mat

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Re: OT - Computer advice wanted.

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Anthony Farr" 
Subject: OT - Computer advice wanted.


> My hard drive has the death clicks.  Previously I had a couple of noisy
> (clattery) startups but it has run quietly so I've just left it on full
> time.  Today the clicking has become almost constant.  What do I need to do
> or get (apart from a replacement HD) to "clone" or "ghost" the OS and
> software over to another drive?  I want to avoid a clean install because of
> the enormous number of updates between the build version of XP that I have
> on my backup discs, and SP3.  I also want to avoid having to reinstall and
> configure my other software.   
> 
> Should I leave it on despite the clicks?  I worry that if I shut down it
> won't reboot.  It's Win XP Home.

The only one I know of is Norton Ghost.

William Robb


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Re: PESO: Point Lobos Surf

[ann sanfedele]

Matthew Montgomery wrote:

>>Just curious if you chose to have the square thumbs or just took what
>>you were dealt?
>>smugmug guys seem to think it looks "more professional"  I've resisted
>>getting on Andy's case about it.
>>I really don't care for it - I want the thumbnails to be the same
>>"shape" as the real photos -
>>My feeling is if I had wanted square shots I'd have shot that way or
>>cropped the shots myself.
>>
>>
>
>I actually prefer the square thumbs as it adds a more uniform grid to  
>the display. I was always slightly bothered by the thumbnail grid when  
>the original aspect ratio was in use and the page contained a mix of  
>portrait and landscape orientations. I can see both sides of the  
>argument, on the one hand some folks want their thumbs pure and others  
>would rather see a more uniform UI. Glad it is an option though.
>
>  
>
>>anyway, nice work there
>>
>>
>
>Thanks again.
>
>Matthew
>
>  
>
Matthew , I use the "arrange" thing a lot to organize the shots as if I 
were hanging them - Though I don't bother
with that for my "misc." gallery.

I'm  not happy with how I've done my first page  - Needs some work - 
some of it is because of smugmug but I want to
change my banner and intro... so much work!...

But I will be happy when the stretching thing is available for all 
styles of galleries.  

ann


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Re: XMP files

[George Sinos]

Walter - ACR doesn't actually modify your image data, it just stores
the series of commands needed to make the modifications.

Since Adobe designed the DNG file, it knows how to store those
instructions within the file without inadvertently destroying your
image. It doesn't know the exact format of the manufacturer's
proprietary raw files, so the instructions are stored in an XMP file
of the same name as the original image.  As David says, these are
called "sidecar" files.

One more reason for me to convert everything to DNG.

GS


On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Walter Hamler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I usually shoot RAW's in dng format. However I shot some today in PEF.
> When I opened a few in ACR and saved them as jpegs there was an
> aditional xmp file saved seperately in the same folder. Are they data
> files for the exif data?
>
> Walt
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Re: PESO: Hot Air

[P. J. Alling]

Looks like the "high res" graphics from an old video game...

D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote:
> Whoops!
>
>   
>>> Well here's a photo where I'm not complaining about heat shimmer.
>>>   
>> Link? :-)
>> 
>
> Coulda' sworn I'd put it in.  Weather must be fryin' ma brain.
> (I distinctly recall hitting 'copy' but must've spaced on 'paste.)
>
> 
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Re: PESO: Pensive

[P. J. Alling]

I think it's one of the nicest lenses Pentax has ever made in that focal 
length, (~28mm).  I don't use mine nearly enough since I shoot mostly 
digital.

SJ wrote:
> hi,
>
> i kind of got enabled a couple of days back. happened to get myself a
> k30/2.8 lens in good condition for a fairly throwaway price. just a
> couple of shots of the junior with the 'new' lens (i guess i cheated,
> it's actually two pesos):
>
> the pensive one:
> http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/PESO/photo#5225093774357736482
>
> the not so pensive one (slightly cropped):
> http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/PESO/photo#5225093772359629042
>
>
> both, K10D, K30/2.8, aperture either 4 or 5.6, RAW, Digikam/Linux
>
> welcome and appreciate your comments,
>
> regards, subash
>
>   


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Re: PESO: Morning (Revised)

[ann sanfedele]

I say yes to this version over the other... looks more real, which I 
prefer to surreal.
One thing bothers me, though,  the tree almost dead  center ... I wish 
it were more in fog like the others..
it is such a strong dark line it keeps pulling my eye to it... where as 
everythng else is so lovely it kinda gets in the
way... in the manner of the telepone pole or tree coming out of the top 
of someones head does...
without fudging too much, making it fainter would improve it ...  

ann


Paul Stenquist wrote:

>I did a new conversion of this shot. Less saturation, warmer light,  
>less sharpening, and a bit of burning in of the brighter elements.  
>It's here:
>
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7582506&size=lg
>
>And here's the original "Velveetasized" version:
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7581535&size=lg
>
>The original is more surreal, which isn't necessarily wrong, but I  
>think I prefer the more subtle version. What say you?
>
>Paul
>
>  
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Re: PESO: Moon Over the Tenements

[ann sanfedele]

AlunFoto wrote:

>Power cables are usually a curse to cityscapes, but in this case I'd
>say the pic would be far less interesting without them. I think you've
>hit a nice balance all over. Nice pic. :-)
>
>Jostein
>
I agree - and boy, is that a familiar view to me!
I like telephone lines and poles, actually

ann

>
>
>2008/7/20 Christine  Aguila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  
>
>>Hi Everyone:  I was up & down the backstairs last night doing laundry &
>>caught this between laundry loads:  view from my backstairs.  I did a crop
>>without the top of the garage in the bottom of the frame, but didn't like it
>>at all.  Greatly altered the feel of the frame.
>>
>>K10D, 50-135mm @ 50mm, 1.3 sec @ 2.8, +1EV, ISO 200, handheld
>>
>>
>>Small
>>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7583302
>>
>>Larger
>>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7583207
>>
>>Frank comments/critique very welcome.
>>
>>Cheers, Christine
>>
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Re: PESO: Morning (Revised)

[Jack Davis]

I've scrubbed out my eyes six times with "Old Dutch Cleanser" and I still like 
the Velveeta equally well. [EMAIL PROTECTED]


--- On Sun, 7/20/08, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: PESO: Morning (Revised)
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008, 11:10 AM
> Gaud, help me I prefer the Velveeta.
> 
> Paul Stenquist wrote:
> > I did a new conversion of this shot. Less saturation,
> warmer light,  
> > less sharpening, and a bit of burning in of the
> brighter elements.  
> > It's here:
> >
> >
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7582506&size=lg
> >
> > And here's the original "Velveetasized"
> version:
> >
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7581535&size=lg
> >
> > The original is more surreal, which isn't
> necessarily wrong, but I  
> > think I prefer the more subtle version. What say you?
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >   
> 
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Re: PESO - Railroad Days

[P. J. Alling]

Looks like smugmug is having technical difficulties.

George Sinos wrote:
> The annual Railroad Days event was last week.  Several museums in the
> Omaha, Nebraska/Council Bluffs, Iowa vicinity get together to put on a
> celebration of the contribution to the areas history and growth.  The
> two cities are connected by a bridges spanning the Missouri river.
> This is where the Union Pacific started building track to connect to
> the west cost.
>
> Here are a few shots, and a gallery of shots from the event.
>
> This is a "detail" of a steam locomotive drive wheel.  I'm not sure
> how well it will show on your monitors, but there is a great amount of
> shadow detail captured in this image.  It intend to make a relatively
> large print.
>
> 
>
> This is the interior of the restored Omaha Union Station shot with the
> Pentax 10-14 zoom.  This is about an 80$ crop from the original image.
>  I'm having great fun learning to use this lens.  If I get a little
> time I'll collect a few shots from this lens and put them in a sample
> gallery.  I'm also enjoying the low light performance of the K20d.
>
> 
>
> Here's the full gallery.
>
> 
>
> GS
> 
>
>   


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Re: PESO: Morning (Revised)

[P. J. Alling]

Gaud, help me I prefer the Velveeta.

Paul Stenquist wrote:
> I did a new conversion of this shot. Less saturation, warmer light,  
> less sharpening, and a bit of burning in of the brighter elements.  
> It's here:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7582506&size=lg
>
> And here's the original "Velveetasized" version:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7581535&size=lg
>
> The original is more surreal, which isn't necessarily wrong, but I  
> think I prefer the more subtle version. What say you?
>
> Paul
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Re: PESO: Moon Over the Tenements

[Jack Davis]

Outstanding lighting makes for very nice overall mood.
Moon is 'just' enough off center to make it work.

Jack


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> From: Christine Aguila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: PESO:  Moon Over the Tenements
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008, 10:19 AM
> Hi Everyone:  I was up & down the backstairs last night
> doing laundry & 
> caught this between laundry loads:  view from my
> backstairs.  I did a crop 
> without the top of the garage in the bottom of the frame,
> but didn't like it 
> at all.  Greatly altered the feel of the frame.
> 
> K10D, 50-135mm @ 50mm, 1.3 sec @ 2.8, +1EV, ISO 200,
> handheld
> 
> 
> Small
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7583302
> 
> Larger
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7583207
> 
> Frank comments/critique very welcome.
> 
> Cheers, Christine 
> 
> 
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Re: PESO: Moon Over the Tenements

[David J Brooks]

Yes, i agree.

Dave

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 1:23 PM, AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Power cables are usually a curse to cityscapes, but in this case I'd
> say the pic would be far less interesting without them. I think you've
> hit a nice balance all over. Nice pic. :-)
>
> Jostein
>
>
> 2008/7/20 Christine  Aguila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Hi Everyone:  I was up & down the backstairs last night doing laundry &
>> caught this between laundry loads:  view from my backstairs.  I did a crop
>> without the top of the garage in the bottom of the frame, but didn't like it
>> at all.  Greatly altered the feel of the frame.
>>
>> K10D, 50-135mm @ 50mm, 1.3 sec @ 2.8, +1EV, ISO 200, handheld
>>
>>
>> Small
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7583302
>>
>> Larger
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7583207
>>
>> Frank comments/critique very welcome.
>>
>> Cheers, Christine
>>
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Re: PESO: Hot Air

[P. J. Alling]

I see nothing to complain or even comment about.

D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote:
> A while back I complained about the heat ripples in summer air on
> a hot day were interfering with my ability to shoot things a mile
> away, downtown.
>
> Well here's a photo where I'm not complaining about heat shimmer.
>
>   -- Glenn
>
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OT - Computer advice wanted.

[Anthony Farr]

My hard drive has the death clicks.  Previously I had a couple of noisy
(clattery) startups but it has run quietly so I've just left it on full
time.  Today the clicking has become almost constant.  What do I need to do
or get (apart from a replacement HD) to "clone" or "ghost" the OS and
software over to another drive?  I want to avoid a clean install because of
the enormous number of updates between the build version of XP that I have
on my backup discs, and SP3.  I also want to avoid having to reinstall and
configure my other software.   

Should I leave it on despite the clicks?  I worry that if I shut down it
won't reboot.  It's Win XP Home.

Regards,
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Re: PESO: HOT (vicodin version)

[Jack Davis]

If you're into it, deer hair is hollow (at least some varieties) and makes 
great dry lies. Those used for trout fishing, for example.
That advice is free!

Jack


--- On Sun, 7/20/08, Mat Maessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Mat Maessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: PESO: HOT (vicodin version)
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008, 10:44 AM
> On 7/20/08, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >  > I was really enjoying the back roads of North
> Carolina on the Triumph
> >  > this past week. Saw a couple of deer but
> didn't have any close encounters.
> >
> >  Seeing them was a close enounter - of the first kind.
>  Matt's was of the third.
> 
> Should that be the "furred" kind?
> 
> I did just pick some deer fur out of the handlebar end on
> the bike...
> 
> -Mat
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Re: PESO: HOT (vicodin version)

[P. J. Alling]

I under stand that Eau de Coyote keeps them away...

Mat Maessen wrote:
> On 7/19/08, Doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>>> I can sympathize. I hit a deer on the motorcycle at the end of June...
>>>   
>>  What? Again?
>> 
>
> Yes. Again. That's two, on two different bikes.
>
> I need to change my deoderant, I think...
>
> -Mat
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Re: GESO Damselflies

[Jack Davis]

Glad to see this close work (crop?) done with the DA 55~300.
Good image!

Jack


--- On Sun, 7/20/08, Toine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Toine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: GESO Damselflies
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008, 9:45 AM
> Two damselflies:
> 
> http://www.repiuk.nl/peso
> 
> K10D DA55-300 @ 300mm, 1/180, f8, 1.2 meter. Used a monopod
> and SR.
> Click the thumbnail for a larger version.
> 
> 
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Re: PESO: HOT (vicodin version)

[Jack Davis]

Thanks for putting me first, Igor. :-))

Jack


--- On Sun, 7/20/08, Igor Roshchin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Igor Roshchin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: PESO: HOT (vicodin version)
> To: PDML@pdml.net
> Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008, 9:04 AM
> At least you didn't heat a bear like these two fellows:
> http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/jun/26/bicyclist-going-45-mph-hits-bear-boulder-county/
> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/25/national/main1833579.shtml
> 
> I wish all you guys (Jack, Mat, all the injured people)
> quick recovery!
> 
> 
> Igor
> 
> Mat Maessen wrote:
> > 
> > OUCH!
> > 
> > I can sympathize. I hit a deer on the motorcycle at
> the end of June,
> 
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Re: OT I think George has found a home.

[David J Brooks]

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Doug Franklin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> David J Brooks wrote:
>
>> Thats what we used to have to do.
>> Give him a holler and he'd slow down for a bit, then get right on it again.
>
> When I was a teenager, we had a poltergeist in the house that would slam
> doors and windows, but we never really noticed anything else.  Stuff
> like there was one window that a previous owner had painted shut, and
> we'd never been able to get it open.  Then one afternoon, we hear BAM!
> BAM! from the back of the house and that window worked fine ever after.

You could be sitting in the house, reading or what ever, then you
would hear this tremendous sound of smashing glass. At first i thought
it was the little deviates from the farm next door throwing rocks.
I would check every window inside and out, plus storms stored in the
basement, incase they fell over, but nothing ever found.

Many previous and post Brooks tenants  told the same story.

Dave
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Re: PESO: HOT (vicodin version)

[Mat Maessen]

On 7/20/08, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > I was really enjoying the back roads of North Carolina on the Triumph
>  > this past week. Saw a couple of deer but didn't have any close encounters.
>
>  Seeing them was a close enounter - of the first kind.  Matt's was of the 
> third.

Should that be the "furred" kind?

I did just pick some deer fur out of the handlebar end on the bike...

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Re: OT I think George has found a home.

[Doug Franklin]

David J Brooks wrote:

> Thats what we used to have to do.
> Give him a holler and he'd slow down for a bit, then get right on it again.

When I was a teenager, we had a poltergeist in the house that would slam 
doors and windows, but we never really noticed anything else.  Stuff 
like there was one window that a previous owner had painted shut, and 
we'd never been able to get it open.  Then one afternoon, we hear BAM! 
BAM! from the back of the house and that window worked fine ever after.

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Re: GESO Damselflies

[Christine Aguila]

Very nice, Toine:  I prefer the 1st one:  the greens are lovely, & nice 
clear background.  In the second one the background is a little distracting, 
but I do like the orangey colors in the second one--still that 1st one is 
most excellent.  More nice work, Toine.  Really enjoy seeing your photos. 
Cheers, Christine


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> Two damselflies:
>
> http://www.repiuk.nl/peso
>
> K10D DA55-300 @ 300mm, 1/180, f8, 1.2 meter. Used a monopod and SR.
> Click the thumbnail for a larger version.
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Re: PESO: Moon Over the Tenements

[AlunFoto]

Power cables are usually a curse to cityscapes, but in this case I'd
say the pic would be far less interesting without them. I think you've
hit a nice balance all over. Nice pic. :-)

Jostein


2008/7/20 Christine  Aguila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi Everyone:  I was up & down the backstairs last night doing laundry &
> caught this between laundry loads:  view from my backstairs.  I did a crop
> without the top of the garage in the bottom of the frame, but didn't like it
> at all.  Greatly altered the feel of the frame.
>
> K10D, 50-135mm @ 50mm, 1.3 sec @ 2.8, +1EV, ISO 200, handheld
>
>
> Small
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7583302
>
> Larger
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7583207
>
> Frank comments/critique very welcome.
>
> Cheers, Christine
>
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PESO: Moon Over the Tenements

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Everyone:  I was up & down the backstairs last night doing laundry & 
caught this between laundry loads:  view from my backstairs.  I did a crop 
without the top of the garage in the bottom of the frame, but didn't like it 
at all.  Greatly altered the feel of the frame.

K10D, 50-135mm @ 50mm, 1.3 sec @ 2.8, +1EV, ISO 200, handheld


Small
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7583302

Larger
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Re: GESO Damselflies

[David J Brooks]

Two upgrades.:-(

Thats a bummer about the tube going, but glad its working.

Dave


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> Thanks, the background on the second one is a little busy. The
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>
> No fillflash. Yes the Sigma 500 :) It required two (free) firmware
> upgrades by Sigma to make it work on the K10D. After that the flash
> tube died. I used a very cheap minolta version of the sigma as a flash
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>
> On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 6:51 PM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I like the back ground of the one on the left a bit better, but both
>> are very nice and colourful.
>>
>> Lens seems sharp enough.
>>
>> Did yoou use any fill flash from the Sigma500
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Toine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Two damselflies:
>>>
>>> http://www.repiuk.nl/peso
>>>
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>>> Click the thumbnail for a larger version.
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Re: PESO: HOT (vicodin version)

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> 
> From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2008/07/20 Sun AM 12:26:12 GMT
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> Subject: Re: PESO: HOT (vicodin version)
> 
> Mat Maessen wrote:
> > 
> > OUCH!
> > 
> > I can sympathize. I hit a deer on the motorcycle at the end of June,
> > and broke my clavicle on the left side. Typing's been quite a chore
> > for a couple of weeks, but I'm on the mend now.
> > 
> > No more good drugs for me, just ibuprofin. The oxycodone was very... spacy.
> > 
> > Damage pictures at http://tomatoe333.smugmug.com/gallery/5299196_j42rR
> 
> Ouch, indeed! *That's* a broken collarbone!
> 
> Looks like you were wearing all the right gear, fortunately. How's the 
> bike? (And what Suzook is it? Last I knew you had the CBR 600)
> 
> I was really enjoying the back roads of North Carolina on the Triumph 
> this past week. Saw a couple of deer but didn't have any close encounters.

Seeing them was a close enounter - of the first kind.  Matt's was of the third.


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Re: GESO Damselflies

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Thanks, the background on the second one is a little busy. The
damselfly is nice and sharp enough to make it a keeper.

No fillflash. Yes the Sigma 500 :) It required two (free) firmware
upgrades by Sigma to make it work on the K10D. After that the flash
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On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 6:51 PM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I like the back ground of the one on the left a bit better, but both
> are very nice and colourful.
>
> Lens seems sharp enough.
>
> Did yoou use any fill flash from the Sigma500
>
> Dave
>
> On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Toine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Two damselflies:
>>
>> http://www.repiuk.nl/peso
>>
>> K10D DA55-300 @ 300mm, 1/180, f8, 1.2 meter. Used a monopod and SR.
>> Click the thumbnail for a larger version.
>>
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Re: PESO: Intrepid

[David Savage]

Thanks Dave.

It was an added bonus to a pretty nice sunset.

Cheers,

Dave

2008/7/21 David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Like this one a lot Dave.
>
> The moon in the shot is nice.
>
> Dave
>
> On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 10:40 AM, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>
>> K20D, DA 21mm f3.2, 1/15 @ f4, ISO 800

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Re: XMP files

[David J Brooks]

I'm no expert on the xmp files, but they call them sidecar files and
have the information stored on your photo settings, like what you did
in your adjustments.
IIRC the file will be over written if you do more edits.

I lost a very nice IR shot, that i could not duplicate in PS, but
could of had i known about the xmp files earlier.

Dave

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> I usually shoot RAW's in dng format. However I shot some today in PEF.
> When I opened a few in ACR and saved them as jpegs there was an
> aditional xmp file saved seperately in the same folder. Are they data
> files for the exif data?
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Re: OT PESOs: black dog

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The second one is excellent

Dave

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> I'm in that mood. I apologise (for the OT, and the mood)
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> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_07/08_07_ambo/01.htm
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XMP files

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Re: GESO Damselflies

[David J Brooks]

I like the back ground of the one on the left a bit better, but both
are very nice and colourful.

Lens seems sharp enough.

Did yoou use any fill flash from the Sigma500

Dave

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> Two damselflies:
>
> http://www.repiuk.nl/peso
>
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> Click the thumbnail for a larger version.
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Re: OT I think George has found a home.

[David J Brooks]

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Christine  Aguila
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Their stucco bungalow has a ghost as well.  We used to hear a lot of
> furniture moving upstairs when we were all downstairs.  Once it was so bad,
> my mother shouted up the stairs, "Look here, ghosts.  If you want to stay
> here, you'll have to keep the noise down."  That subdued them for a good
> long while.

Thats what we used to have to do.
Give him a holler and he'd slow down for a bit, then get right on it again.

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Re: PESO: Pensive

[David J Brooks]

Yes the first one looks very pensive.:-)

Good angle and expression

Dave

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 10:09 AM, SJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi,
>
> i kind of got enabled a couple of days back. happened to get myself a
> k30/2.8 lens in good condition for a fairly throwaway price. just a
> couple of shots of the junior with the 'new' lens (i guess i cheated,
> it's actually two pesos):
>
> the pensive one:
> http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/PESO/photo#5225093774357736482
>
> the not so pensive one (slightly cropped):
> http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/PESO/photo#5225093772359629042
>
>
> both, K10D, K30/2.8, aperture either 4 or 5.6, RAW, Digikam/Linux
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> welcome and appreciate your comments,
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> regards, subash
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Re: PESO: Hot Air

[David J Brooks]

Nice shot.

Good thing its not raining.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6026474

Dave

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 11:08 AM, D. Glenn Arthur Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Whoops!
>
>> > Well here's a photo where I'm not complaining about heat shimmer.
>> Link? :-)
>
> Coulda' sworn I'd put it in.  Weather must be fryin' ma brain.
> (I distinctly recall hitting 'copy' but must've spaced on 'paste.)
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GESO Damselflies

[Toine]

Two damselflies:

http://www.repiuk.nl/peso

K10D DA55-300 @ 300mm, 1/180, f8, 1.2 meter. Used a monopod and SR.
Click the thumbnail for a larger version.


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Re: OT PESOs: black dog

[Christine Aguila]

Derby:  I like them.  Moody is good.  Cheers, Christine


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> I'm in that mood. I apologise (for the OT, and the mood)
>
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_07/08_07_ambo/01.htm
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Re: PESO: Intrepid

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Like this one a lot Dave.

The moon in the shot is nice.

Dave

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> G'day All.
>
> Taken while on a sunset photo shoot with some like minded folk (~75kb)
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> 
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> K20D, DA 21mm f3.2, 1/15 @ f4, ISO 800
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> Comments welcome.
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> Cheers,
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Re: Pensive

[Christine Aguila]

Subash:  These are sweet & fun--or sweetly fun--congrats on the new lens. 
Cheers, Christine


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Subject: PESO: Pensive


> hi,
>
> i kind of got enabled a couple of days back. happened to get myself a
> k30/2.8 lens in good condition for a fairly throwaway price. just a
> couple of shots of the junior with the 'new' lens (i guess i cheated,
> it's actually two pesos):
>
> the pensive one:
> http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/PESO/photo#5225093774357736482
>
> the not so pensive one (slightly cropped):
> http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/PESO/photo#5225093772359629042
>
>
> both, K10D, K30/2.8, aperture either 4 or 5.6, RAW, Digikam/Linux
>
> welcome and appreciate your comments,
>
> regards, subash
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Re: OT I think George has found a home.

[Christine Aguila]

Fun story, Dave.  My parents still live in the house I grew up in, located 
in Albany Park, a neighborhood on the near north-west side of Chicago. 
Their stucco bungalow has a ghost as well.  We used to hear a lot of 
furniture moving upstairs when we were all downstairs.  Once it was so bad, 
my mother shouted up the stairs, "Look here, ghosts.  If you want to stay 
here, you'll have to keep the noise down."  That subdued them for a good 
long while.  Not much heard from them since.  Glad you're happy George is 
back--will probably make for some fun mischief in the near future.  Cheers, 
Christine


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Subject: OT I think George has found a home.


> I'll make this as brief as i can, but i thought I'd share this.
>
> I have been riding my bike out to the old farm house this past week,
> as i still feel for our old ghost George, and wonder how he's doing
> all by him self.
> Two things have happened around the Brooks homestead this week, after
> the rides.
>
> #1-I had been looking for about three years, off and on, for two Savoy
> Brown CD's from a best of collection I have. I have the case, but have
> spent hours, as i say off and on, looking for the Cds them selves. I
> had given up on finding them an had started a store search for a new
> copy.
> Thursday, Lucy jumps up on the dresser, we have the small TV on in the
> bedroom, and something fell on the floor. It was the CD case. I
> wondered why it was up here, as it has been kept by the stereo for
> many years.
> As a joke, i opened up the case, and what do i see. The two missing
> CD's are in the case. I asked Erin and Liz if they brought thi sup and
> found the CD's. They did not even know what a Savoy Brown was, let
> alone a case was in the house.:-)
>
> #2- I was making Catfish for supper on Thursday, and i had put the oil
> and spices on the fish, and was ready to wrap the foil around it, when
> i realized i had forgot to put some pepper on it.
> I looked for about 15 minutes for the shaker. I finally found a small
> packet from a take out store and used that.
> Took the fish out to the BBQ and came back in. What do i then see,
> right next to were i was preparing supper.
> Yup, the regular pepper shaker.
>
> That convinced me George had hooked a ride with me back to the
> house.He'd been there all by him self for about a year and a half now.
> This is the kind of stuff, and making rocks through window noises that
> he specialized in.:-)
>
> I'm glad he's back, we'll keep him in line like we did before.
>
> Some of you may remember my George stories, for those that don't, he
> was our haunted resident of the 150 year old farm house Liz and i had
> rented for a number of years.
> Hid stuff, made glass shattering noises, sang, banged on doors among
> other things. I have met up with people that had rented before and
> after us, and we all had the same stories and noises.
>
> I believe. There are old house noises and there are spirit noises.
>
> We have the latter.
>
> Dave
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Re: Intrepid

[David Savage]

Thanks Ken.

Cheers,

Dave

2008/7/20 Ken Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Different - well done.
>
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
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> - Original Message -
> From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> 
>>
>> K20D, DA 21mm f3.2, 1/15 @ f4, ISO 800

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Re: PESO: Intrepid

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Thanks Christine.

Cheers,

Dave

2008/7/21 Christine  Aguila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi Dave:  Very nice.  Great balance of elements & the colors are lovely.  I
> like this very much.  Cheers, Christine
>
>>> --- On Sat, 7/19/08, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

 K20D, DA 21mm f3.2, 1/15 @ f4, ISO 800

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Re: PESO: Intrepid

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2008/7/20 AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Nice shot!

Thank you.

> Fortunately you don't have antlers. :-)

Not personally.

:-)

> Okay, that one needs some explanation. When reading Bob S. 's comment,
> I came to think of something that was considered the ultimate cliché
> shot for nature photographers in Norway. Sunsets by themselves were
> considered cliché. Animal portraits of the largest wild mammal in
> Norwegian nature, the moose, were also pretty much cliché. So the
> ultimate cliché, someone figured out, would have to be a moose in
> sunset.
>
> Without the antlers, it's no cliché, though. :-)

I have some moose photos I took last yea. I also have Photoshop.

I could make it a cliché

:-D

Cheers,

Dave


> 2008/7/19 David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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>>
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Re: PESO: Intrepid

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Thanks Paul.

Cheers,

Dave

2008/7/20 Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Excellent shot. Superb composition. I really like this one.
> Paul
>>> 
>>>
>>> K20D, DA 21mm f3.2, 1/15 @ f4, ISO 800

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Re: PESO: Intrepid

[David Savage]

2008/7/20 Derby Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> David Savage wrote:
>> 
>> K20D, DA 21mm f3.2, 1/15 @ f4, ISO 800
>>
>
> Those who fear the DA21 is not a low-light lens should look upon this
> and be calm. Well balanced exposure and comp.

Thanks Derby.

I used it a bit more today & it really is a hand FL.

Cheers,

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Re: PESO: Intrepid

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2008/7/20 Brian Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:40:27 +0800, "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> 
>>
>> K20D, DA 21mm f3.2, 1/15 @ f4, ISO 800
>
>
> Well balanced composition and great colour in that sky.  The moon might
> be just a speck of light but it "completes" the picture perfectly.

Thank you Brian.

> (Now if only the local authority had constructed a more aesthetically
> appealing fence near the jetty.)

That fence was hastily erected due to coastal erosion caused by winter storms.

Since I took this shot I think even more of the beach was swallowed by
the ocean.

Cheers,

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Re: Morning (Revised)

[Christine Aguila]

Paul:  Hard for me to say which one I prefer--both being very nice--well, 
why choose--I like them both, but I might be leaning towards the more 
surreal.  Cheers, Christine


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>I did a new conversion of this shot. Less saturation, warmer light,
> less sharpening, and a bit of burning in of the brighter elements.
> It's here:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7582506&size=lg
>
> And here's the original "Velveetasized" version:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7581535&size=lg
>
> The original is more surreal, which isn't necessarily wrong, but I
> think I prefer the more subtle version. What say you?
>
> Paul
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Re: PESO: Intrepid

[David Savage]

Thanks Bruce.

People are sometimes an element lacking in my photography that I need
to include more often I think.

Cheers,

Dave

2008/7/20 Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I like it!  Very dramatic with a story to tell.  Nice work, there.
>
> --
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>
>
> Saturday, July 19, 2008, 7:40:27 AM, you wrote:
> DS> 
>
> DS> K20D, DA 21mm f3.2, 1/15 @ f4, ISO 800

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Re: PESO: Intrepid

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Dave:  Very nice.  Great balance of elements & the colors are lovely.  I 
like this very much.  Cheers, Christine


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> Not me Jack.
>
> There is no way known that I would have climbed up onto those rocks :-)
>
> Thanks for looking.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
>
> 2008/7/19 Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Yes, you certainly appear to be..."intrepid". ;)
>>
>> Jack
>>
>>
>> --- On Sat, 7/19/08, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>
>>> K20D, DA 21mm f3.2, 1/15 @ f4, ISO 800
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Re: PESO: Intrepid

[David Savage]

Thanks Brendan.

Cheers,

Dave

2008/7/20 Brendan MacRae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Nice one, Dave.
>
> Beautiful shot.
>
> -Brendan
> --- David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>
>> K20D, DA 21mm f3.2, 1/15 @ f4, ISO 800

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Re: PESO: Intrepid

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2008/7/20 Walter Hamler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Excellent! You getting good at this low light genre :-)

Thanks Walt.

> I am jealous of the southern skies you enjoy!

I know. In summer we have gorgeous sunsets & in winter we have the same :-)

Cheers,

Dave

> On 7/19/08, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> K20D, DA 21mm f3.2, 1/15 @ f4, ISO 800

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Re: PESO: Intrepid

[David Savage]

Not me Jack.

There is no way known that I would have climbed up onto those rocks :-)

Thanks for looking.

Cheers,

Dave

2008/7/19 Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Yes, you certainly appear to be..."intrepid". ;)
>
> Jack
>
>
> --- On Sat, 7/19/08, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>
>> K20D, DA 21mm f3.2, 1/15 @ f4, ISO 800

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PESO: HOT (vicodin version)

[Igor Roshchin]

At least you didn't heat a bear like these two fellows:
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/jun/26/bicyclist-going-45-mph-hits-bear-boulder-county/
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/25/national/main1833579.shtml

I wish all you guys (Jack, Mat, all the injured people) quick recovery!


Igor

Mat Maessen wrote:
> 
> OUCH!
> 
> I can sympathize. I hit a deer on the motorcycle at the end of June,


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Re: Back and with a PESO

[William Robb]

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Subject: Re: Back and with a PESO



>>
>> Looks to me like some sort of internal reflection between the diopter
>> and the front of the lens.
>
> Thanks for everyone who commented on this shot and hypothesized on the
> effects shown. I don't think the flare speculation works: There was no
> direct light on the lens or even the subject - it was really soft,
> indirect lighting. One thing I noticed after looking at my shots taken
> with the same equipment that don't show this effect is that they were
> all taken at much smaller apertures. This shot was taken at f/4.0, which
> is only one stop down from wide open with this lens, so I'm pretty sure
> the wide aperture contributed to the effect.
>
> Whatever. I'm going to make a mental note of it to keep in my bag of
> tricks. I'm glad it transformed what could have been just another boring
> flower shot into something a little more interesting.

Mark, you have some specular highlights showing in that picture, and what is 
obviously a veiling 
flare top left.
The double image almost looks like a soft focus effect that can be had by doing 
a double 
exposure where you do one shot in focus and then another one somewhat out of 
focus (long focus). 
I've seen that with accessory lenses. The wide aperture definitely contributed 
to the effect by 
using more of the accessory lens to make the pucture.

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OT I think George has found a home.

[David J Brooks]

I'll make this as brief as i can, but i thought I'd share this.

I have been riding my bike out to the old farm house this past week,
as i still feel for our old ghost George, and wonder how he's doing
all by him self.
Two things have happened around the Brooks homestead this week, after
the rides.

#1-I had been looking for about three years, off and on, for two Savoy
Brown CD's from a best of collection I have. I have the case, but have
spent hours, as i say off and on, looking for the Cds them selves. I
had given up on finding them an had started a store search for a new
copy.
Thursday, Lucy jumps up on the dresser, we have the small TV on in the
bedroom, and something fell on the floor. It was the CD case. I
wondered why it was up here, as it has been kept by the stereo for
many years.
As a joke, i opened up the case, and what do i see. The two missing
CD's are in the case. I asked Erin and Liz if they brought thi sup and
found the CD's. They did not even know what a Savoy Brown was, let
alone a case was in the house.:-)

#2- I was making Catfish for supper on Thursday, and i had put the oil
and spices on the fish, and was ready to wrap the foil around it, when
i realized i had forgot to put some pepper on it.
I looked for about 15 minutes for the shaker. I finally found a small
packet from a take out store and used that.
Took the fish out to the BBQ and came back in. What do i then see,
right next to were i was preparing supper.
Yup, the regular pepper shaker.

That convinced me George had hooked a ride with me back to the
house.He'd been there all by him self for about a year and a half now.
This is the kind of stuff, and making rocks through window noises that
he specialized in.:-)

I'm glad he's back, we'll keep him in line like we did before.

Some of you may remember my George stories, for those that don't, he
was our haunted resident of the 150 year old farm house Liz and i had
rented for a number of years.
Hid stuff, made glass shattering noises, sang, banged on doors among
other things. I have met up with people that had rented before and
after us, and we all had the same stories and noises.

I believe. There are old house noises and there are spirit noises.

We have the latter.

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Re: Back and with a PESO

[Mark Roberts]

Charles Robinson wrote:
> On Jul 19, 2008, at 18:15, Mark Roberts wrote:
>> http://www.robertstech.com/gallery/temp.htm
> 
> Looks to me like some sort of internal reflection between the diopter  
> and the front of the lens.

Thanks for everyone who commented on this shot and hypothesized on the 
effects shown. I don't think the flare speculation works: There was no 
direct light on the lens or even the subject - it was really soft, 
indirect lighting. One thing I noticed after looking at my shots taken 
with the same equipment that don't show this effect is that they were 
all taken at much smaller apertures. This shot was taken at f/4.0, which 
is only one stop down from wide open with this lens, so I'm pretty sure 
the wide aperture contributed to the effect.

Whatever. I'm going to make a mental note of it to keep in my bag of 
tricks. I'm glad it transformed what could have been just another boring 
flower shot into something a little more interesting.

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PESO: Hot Air

[D. Glenn Arthur Jr.]

Whoops!

> > Well here's a photo where I'm not complaining about heat shimmer.
> Link? :-)

Coulda' sworn I'd put it in.  Weather must be fryin' ma brain.
(I distinctly recall hitting 'copy' but must've spaced on 'paste.)



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Re: Test

[ann sanfedele]

Cotty wrote:

>On 18/7/08, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>I don't know what the fuss is over gmail.
>>I love it, love how i can group emails into labels for Lightroom talk,
>>Photoshop talk, monitors etc etc.
>>And you know who is finally filtered.
>>
>>
>What I don't understand is why one needs gmail to do this??
>I can do all the above with my mail app called Powermail.
>Do people not have this ability in their standard mail apps?
>
>Cheers,
>  Cotty
>
>==
>
I can do it , and do.  with Netscape 7.0   -  

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Re: PESO - Railroad Days

[David J Brooks]

Really nice George.

I liked the model railway shots.

Dave

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> The annual Railroad Days event was last week.  Several museums in the
> Omaha, Nebraska/Council Bluffs, Iowa vicinity get together to put on a
> celebration of the contribution to the areas history and growth.  The
> two cities are connected by a bridges spanning the Missouri river.
> This is where the Union Pacific started building track to connect to
> the west cost.
>
> Here are a few shots, and a gallery of shots from the event.
>
> This is a "detail" of a steam locomotive drive wheel.  I'm not sure
> how well it will show on your monitors, but there is a great amount of
> shadow detail captured in this image.  It intend to make a relatively
> large print.
>
> 
>
> This is the interior of the restored Omaha Union Station shot with the
> Pentax 10-14 zoom.  This is about an 80$ crop from the original image.
>  I'm having great fun learning to use this lens.  If I get a little
> time I'll collect a few shots from this lens and put them in a sample
> gallery.  I'm also enjoying the low light performance of the K20d.
>
> 
>
> Here's the full gallery.
>
> 
>
> GS
> 
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Re: PESO: Pensive

[Subash]

On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:24:55 -0700 (PDT)
Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Good stuff, SJ. Especially since they were shot with a not so
> 'spensive' a lens. ;)
> > the pensive one:
> > http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/PESO/photo#5225093774357736482
> > 
> > the not so pensive one (slightly cropped):
> > http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/PESO/photo#5225093772359629042

thank you Jack. and here's to your fast recovery. 

regards, subash.

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Re: Pentax pro service in Europe?

[AlunFoto]

I've never heard of any dedicated pro-service challel in Europe. But
it may be because I'm not a professional :-)

As to independent repair shops... I hope someone from NL can answer
you more accurately.

Best,
Jostein

2008/7/20 Boyd Noorda, Socia Media <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi there,
>
> I've recently joined this list, hoping people may help me with this
> question:
>
> Is there any quick, professional service for Pentax in Europe or even The
> Netherlands? It does not have to be a place where they can do major
> repairs, just fixing focus errors and other adjustments in lenses and
> bodies.
>
> Could also be a independent camera repair shop, but I don't know what
> policy Pentax has for independent workshops. Are they able to get service
> manuals, a null body, etc?
>
> Thank you,
> Boyd Noorda, The Hague
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Re: PESO: Pensive

[Jack Davis]

Good stuff, SJ. Especially since they were shot with a not so 'spensive' a 
lens. ;)

Jack


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> From: SJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: PESO: Pensive
> To: "PDML" 
> Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008, 7:09 AM
> hi,
> 
> i kind of got enabled a couple of days back. happened to
> get myself a
> k30/2.8 lens in good condition for a fairly throwaway
> price. just a
> couple of shots of the junior with the 'new' lens
> (i guess i cheated,
> it's actually two pesos):
> 
> the pensive one:
> http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/PESO/photo#5225093774357736482
> 
> the not so pensive one (slightly cropped):
> http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/PESO/photo#5225093772359629042
> 
> 
> both, K10D, K30/2.8, aperture either 4 or 5.6, RAW,
> Digikam/Linux
> 
> welcome and appreciate your comments,
> 
> regards, subash
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Re: Morning (Revised)

[Steve Larson]

gorgeous shot Paul !!

Steve

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Subject: PESO: Morning (Revised)


>I did a new conversion of this shot. Less saturation, warmer light,
> less sharpening, and a bit of burning in of the brighter elements.
> It's here:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7582506&size=lg
>
> And here's the original "Velveetasized" version:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7581535&size=lg
>
> The original is more surreal, which isn't necessarily wrong, but I
> think I prefer the more subtle version. What say you?
>
> Paul
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Re: PESO: Morning (Revised)

[Doug Franklin]

Paul Stenquist wrote:

> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7582506&size=lg
> 
> And here's the original "Velveetasized" version:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7581535&size=lg
> 
> The original is more surreal, which isn't necessarily wrong, but I  
> think I prefer the more subtle version. What say you?

The newer (non-Velveeta) version works better for me, but it's still 
kinda, uh, visually shocking or something.  Probably because I don't 
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Re: PESO - Railroad Days

[Doug Franklin]

George Sinos wrote:

> This is a "detail" of a steam locomotive drive wheel.  I'm not sure
> how well it will show on your monitors, but there is a great amount of
> shadow detail captured in this image.  It intend to make a relatively
> large print.
> 
> 

I like it, George, and the shadow detail comes through fine, here.  It 
does show up better on my CRT than my LCD, but that's mostly the 
contrast, I think (the LCD claims 3000:1 dynamic contrast ratio).

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