Re: OT: Strange bug
That shouldn't be a surprise - it's well documented. Nowadays it's expected that there will be so-called Easter eggs in any video game. There have always been in-jokes in animated movies (not to mention the idea of a 'blooper reel' for animated characters). Probably the earliest example of humo(u)r of which I have personal experience was with TECO (the text editor used on many early DEC systems). The command to create a new file (rather than edit an existing one) was MAKE filename. If you typed MAKE LOVE, it would create a file called LOVE, as told. But it would also respond with NOT WAR?. And, of course, there is amazing Grace's remark about the first example of an actual bug being found. It might not be the world's best joke, but it was definitely a joke. On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 09:40:07AM +1000, Brian Walters wrote: Nice to see that even programmers can have a sense of humour. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 23:45:34 +0100, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Have a look at this webpage: http://www.nordicgroup.us/s78/flashlights.html Scroll down to the section headed 'Commercial Flashlight Holders' and take a look at the frame on the right hand side. There's a teensy little flea wandering around inside it. How strange. It's an animated gif. Presumably the programmer who wrote the page was a bit bored at the time. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Accessible with your email software or over the web -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Strange bug
2008/8/18 John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: And, of course, there is amazing Grace's remark about the first example of an actual bug being found. It might not be the world's best joke, but it was definitely a joke. I remember I once got dust mites inside the mirror housing of my first camera (Pentax P50). It was pretty weird to see those small, half-transparent bugs wander across the matte screen. At first I didn't know what it was, and made the mistake of asking about it in a camera shop... -You should have seen those faces... Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Strange bug
- Original Message - From: AlunFoto Subject: Re: OT: Strange bug I remember I once got dust mites inside the mirror housing of my first camera (Pentax P50). It was pretty weird to see those small, half-transparent bugs wander across the matte screen. At first I didn't know what it was, and made the mistake of asking about it in a camera shop... -You should have seen those faces... I remember. A lady came into my camera store with a lens that she insisted was falling apart. It had a couple of largish black specks in it. That was looking through the lens one way. The other way revealed a couple of very dead insects on one of the lens elements. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: Strange bug
it's very convincing. When I first saw it I tried to blow it off my screen, and was rather horrified at the thought that I might have fleas in my house. Bob It's a bug in the code. Have a look at this webpage: http://www.nordicgroup.us/s78/flashlights.html Scroll down to the section headed 'Commercial Flashlight Holders' and take a look at the frame on the right hand side. There's a teensy little flea wandering around inside it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Runnin' 'Shine on the Avenue
Paul Stenquist wrote: The General Lee of the television series was a 1969 Charger. I think this car matches that criteria. I suppose it's a clone in terms of being an oriinal hemi Charger. It would be worth much, much more in factory colors if it were not a clone. More than 100K to be sure. But a couple of General Lee's always show up at the Dream Cruise. I assume they're created from cars that originally had the bas 318 cid, two bbl engine. A numbers matching hemi Charger is a very valuable piece of iron. (Some have sold at auction for a quarter million in U.S. dollars). A great picture, although the 'General Lee' paint job isn't my favourite - there was a dark green with a black roof which looked amazing. The previous shape Charger (the '66/'67) was also a beautiful car and also the later 1970 500. Goodness knows what went through their heads from 1971 on, but by the time production finished with the then latest shape, they had changed it from one of the worlds most beautiful cars, to one of the blandest vehicles ever made. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Norway 2008
Cotty wrote: http://gallery.me.com/cottycam#100019 Wonderful pictures; also makes you envious of living in that part of the world. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Norway 2008 - the Pentax version
Jostein, Nice shots. Gives me a feel for what I will see when I'm in Norway in late November (though I imagine there will be more snow and less green). Leon http://www.bluering.org.au http://www.bluering.org.au/leon AlunFoto wrote: Cotty's done the Canon version. :-) http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/thumbnails.php?album=9 Pics sized to within 1024x768 px. cheers, Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT Another PC question
A while back my PC with XP home decided to not want to boot up. Gave me an error message after the intel Pentium 4 screen. I ran the disk scan etc, and it started to work ok, for the summer. Last night and today, it started giving me the error booting up abort dos message after the pentium 4 screen. Also something seems to click a few times at start up. Now it started. Is this my HD acting up. What i need to know, is if this disk fails, am i pooched here, for data recover if i need to install a new one. I have no experience in formating and starting over, and would look at getting some one to map my current drive and install a new one should that be the case. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: GPS tracks and google maps
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 2:33 AM, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used a program called GPicSync. You load the tracks from the GPS device and the photos from the camera both onto your hard drive. The program then matches up the times in the track to the times stamped into the photos, and it updates the EXIF data to include lat/log/alt information. There are several other programs like that around if you do a Google search. thanks Dough. i'm on linux, i don't think i have seen similar programmes on linux. will look around. regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Another PC question
David J Brooks wrote: Also something seems to click a few times at start up. Now it started. Is this my HD acting up. Something clicking at startup is usually the hard drive, though it could also be the CD/DVD drive or the floppy drive (if you have one). To confirm the problem, if you can get Windows XP to boot and run, click on Start, then Run and type eventvwr into the Open edit box. When the Event Viewer window appears, click on System in the left hand pane, then click on the Source column in the right hand pane to sort by source. Look for all warnings and errors from the disk source to see any problems that Windows XP has been reporting for your disks. In terms of getting going again, the best bet would probably be to remove the offending drive and install a replacement, get XP installed and running on that new drive, then install the old drive as D: (or whatever) and copy whatever you can/want from the old drive to the new one before the old one gives up the ghost forever. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 540 flash damage.
Yeah, I'll probably have to buy a second flash. I did use second curtain synch for some of the car pics. I have other flashes but none that do hi-speed synch, and that's essential for the wedding. Paul On Aug 17, 2008, at 10:40 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Ouch! I assume you used it on second-curtain synch for that excellent series of car pix. Buy a new one, fix the old one, then either have two or sell one of them? Rick --- On Sun, 8/17/08, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 540 flash damage. To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Sunday, August 17, 2008, 9:23 PM While trying to attach it to the camera, I dropped my FA 540 flash. It landed square on the nose, and now th auto zoom doesn't work. Not surprised. I plan on sending it to Pentax tomorrow unless someone here has a better idea. BTW, this flash has been great for me in shooting all manner of events. Gotta rix it or replace it. And I have a wedding 9-14. Too soon perhaps. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Runnin' 'Shine on the Avenue
Thanks Malcolm. I not wild about the General look either. Kind of ugly. The '70 Charger is my favorite. Paul On Aug 18, 2008, at 3:58 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: The General Lee of the television series was a 1969 Charger. I think this car matches that criteria. I suppose it's a clone in terms of being an oriinal hemi Charger. It would be worth much, much more in factory colors if it were not a clone. More than 100K to be sure. But a couple of General Lee's always show up at the Dream Cruise. I assume they're created from cars that originally had the bas 318 cid, two bbl engine. A numbers matching hemi Charger is a very valuable piece of iron. (Some have sold at auction for a quarter million in U.S. dollars). A great picture, although the 'General Lee' paint job isn't my favourite - there was a dark green with a black roof which looked amazing. The previous shape Charger (the '66/'67) was also a beautiful car and also the later 1970 500. Goodness knows what went through their heads from 1971 on, but by the time production finished with the then latest shape, they had changed it from one of the worlds most beautiful cars, to one of the blandest vehicles ever made. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: GPS tracks and google maps
S J wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 2:33 AM, Doug Franklin I used a program called GPicSync. [...] thanks Doug. i'm on linux, i don't think i have seen similar programmes on linux. will look around. I think there is at least one for Linux (or generally FOSS platforms), but I haven't sought it out or used it. IIRC, there's at least one hiding somewhere in Source Forge. A search of (+GPS,+photo) on Source Forge yielded six projects. Photo GyPSy sounds like the closest thing to GPicSync ... the others are related but slightly different. Like the PhotoMap project will read GPS tracks and photo EXIF data and create an SVG-based photo album. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Another PC question
Thanks Doug. As soon as i'm done my renames and pages from this weekends shoot., i'll do that. As far as adding a new drive etc, I'll let a computer guy look at that. I am all thumbs don't forget:-) Just wondering if the XP home disk i got from the computer manufacturer, that was installed by them will be sufficient. I'll have to find out. May need a store bought XP Dave Dave On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David J Brooks wrote: Also something seems to click a few times at start up. Now it started. Is this my HD acting up. Something clicking at startup is usually the hard drive, though it could also be the CD/DVD drive or the floppy drive (if you have one). To confirm the problem, if you can get Windows XP to boot and run, click on Start, then Run and type eventvwr into the Open edit box. When the Event Viewer window appears, click on System in the left hand pane, then click on the Source column in the right hand pane to sort by source. Look for all warnings and errors from the disk source to see any problems that Windows XP has been reporting for your disks. In terms of getting going again, the best bet would probably be to remove the offending drive and install a replacement, get XP installed and running on that new drive, then install the old drive as D: (or whatever) and copy whatever you can/want from the old drive to the new one before the old one gives up the ghost forever. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Something Here's Not Right!
He seemed to be looking to me for help in rectifying what was obviously (to him) an inequitable situation, but alas, how could I maintain my objectivity if I entered the fray? Sadly, I had to decline his entreaties... . http://tinyurl.com/5st36f http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SKlpGvjSvrI/C3w/vGPktlLKpnw/s1600-h/aug_18_08+003.jpg Comments are always welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 540 flash damage.
Heck! Ask about the previously announced Pentax Pro expedited service. Will be interested in their reaction. Jack --- On Sun, 8/17/08, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 540 flash damage. To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Sunday, August 17, 2008, 6:23 PM While trying to attach it to the camera, I dropped my FA 540 flash. It landed square on the nose, and now th auto zoom doesn't work. Not surprised. I plan on sending it to Pentax tomorrow unless someone here has a better idea. BTW, this flash has been great for me in shooting all manner of events. Gotta rix it or replace it. And I have a wedding 9-14. Too soon perhaps. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Another PC question
David J Brooks wrote: Just wondering if the XP home disk i got from the computer manufacturer, that was installed by them will be sufficient. I'll have to find out. May need a store bought XP The disk that came with the computer /should/ be enough to get it running the way it was when you originally started it up. Sometimes there's a second one with the preinstalled applications, and sometimes they're rolled into one disk. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Kodak Gallery for prints
Hi all. I used to have good success with Future shop's photo lab, but they have stopped doing prints, and all accounts have been moved to the Kodak Gallery dot ca. I thought i would try out the service with some of my Markham Fair photos last week. I must say, for first try and first impressions, and very happy with the results. Good colour and crispness to the photos. I used LR beta for the adjusting, saving to sRGB and 240 dpi. If they can maintain this quality and turn around time, took 3 days, i'll be a happy clam Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Something Here's Not Right!
Cute, and very well caught! Brings back the guilt we've all felt under similar circumstances. Like the conversion. Jack --- On Mon, 8/18/08, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Something Here's Not Right! To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 5:49 AM He seemed to be looking to me for help in rectifying what was obviously (to him) an inequitable situation, but alas, how could I maintain my objectivity if I entered the fray? Sadly, I had to decline his entreaties... . http://tinyurl.com/5st36f http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SKlpGvjSvrI/C3w/vGPktlLKpnw/s1600-h/aug_18_08+003.jpg Comments are always welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: When is a little Photoshoppery too much Photoshoppery?
Hi all This has been an interesting thread. Thanks to everyone who responded. Bob's response (below) was typical of many although I probably subscribe to Paul's view regarding personal photography (also below). I think that everyone agrees that there should be no intention to deceive. Anyway, for my little river project, which may or may not end up on the web, I'll be using the original of my Stumped images (they may only be tree stumps but they are identifiable). If I want to print a version for my own use, I'll probably use the photoshopped version. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 10:07:44 -0500, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Brian, It's a hard call. I like the photoshopped picture. It is more pleasing than the original. But it troubles me knowing it is 'photoshopped'. I expect paintings to be paintings and photos to be photos. I expect paintings to be a truly imaginary concoction, perhaps based on real life but without strict rules on veracity. I expect photos to be mostly a capture of a real scene, perhaps manipulated a little bit, but with a lot of faithfulness to the original scene. With enough manipulation, photos stop being photos and become another art form. Perhaps photo montage would be the right name for them. Your question stirs the pot on the whole issue. I expect paintings(etc) to be beautiful or moving in composition, colors, ideas overall. I expect photos to be beautiful for the capture of a real scene, real light, real detail. It becomes a matter of expectations. In the painting(etc) art world, we suspend expectations of perfect representation and enjoy the other aspects of the work. In the photo world, I expect the picture is highly representational of what you can see. (Of course artists blur these lines in 1,000 different ways, with painted canvases that look like photos and photos that look like paintings.) But for me, I like to look at photos and think that they show something real and marvel at how the photographer was able to get the shot. (Next time, take the chain saw!) ;-) Regards, Bob S. On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 08:28:50 -0400, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: In fine art or personal photography, any PhotoShop work that makes for a better photograph is acceptable and, IMO, commendable. If photography is an art, why should the artist's endeavors end when the shutter closes? Suggesting that he or she must refrain from retouching is just just nonsense. Although if purists choose to present only their recorded images, that's okay as well. There is no wrong way to make art or personal photographs. Photojournalism is another matter. Your example of the Iranian missiles falls into that category. Journalists report news. The retouching of a news photograph is unacceptable. It's simple. Paul On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 2:34 AM, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all This may have been discussed previously but I thought it might be worth canvassing PDMLers' views, in the light of Ann's comments on my recent Stumped - Take 2 PESO. I think most people would regard the recent Iran Missile fiasco as being in the way too much category and a few journalists have got themselves into strife in recent years by 'sexing up' news images. Although photography has always been a weapon of propaganda, well before the digital age, these are distorting history and can't be justified. At the other extreme, removing the odd dust spot or maybe a distracting leaf or branch would probably be regarded as being OK by most people. But what about the middle ground - when do we step over the line? I'll offer my two PESO's as examples (these aren't wonderful images but they serve to illustrate the point): http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/95749/Stumped.html http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/95818/Stumped_-_Take_2.html Even the first one had some photoshopping - I removed some intrusive branches on the left. It never occurred to me to mention this in the original post. Should I have mentioned it? The second one was more drastic and involved removal of a stump on the left. This was suggested by Paul, and others seemed to agree that it was acceptable (and an improvement). Ann, however, thought I'd gone too far. In retrospect, I think Ann is probably right in this case. I have changed what is there and, as I intend using the image in a 'River Environs' project, I probably should use the original for that project. As a pure image, however, taken out of the River Environs' context, the second image 'works better', in my opinion. So what do you think - not specifically about these images but as a general view. Even the great photographers of the past weren't shy when it came to 'improving' images - a dodge and
Two grand for a manual Pentax!
I know this is a rare variant of the H2 but bloody hell! http://cgi.ebay.com.au/The-Rarest-Pentax-of-All-The-PENTA-ASAHIFLEX_W0QQitemZ370075970096QQihZ024QQcategoryZ98923QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://tinyurl.com/5bwddc Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Something Here's Not Right!
That's so sad. You're a hard-hearted bugger. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 08:49:27 -0400, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: He seemed to be looking to me for help in rectifying what was obviously (to him) an inequitable situation, but alas, how could I maintain my objectivity if I entered the fray? Sadly, I had to decline his entreaties... . http://tinyurl.com/5st36f http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SKlpGvjSvrI/C3w/vGPktlLKpnw/s1600-h/aug_18_08+003.jpg Comments are always welcome. -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Accessible with your email software or over the web -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Something Here's Not Right!
Good composition and a cute shot. I like the subtle conversion Dave On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:49 AM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He seemed to be looking to me for help in rectifying what was obviously (to him) an inequitable situation, but alas, how could I maintain my objectivity if I entered the fray? Sadly, I had to decline his entreaties... . http://tinyurl.com/5st36f http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SKlpGvjSvrI/C3w/vGPktlLKpnw/s1600-h/aug_18_08+003.jpg Comments are always welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: When is a little Photoshoppery too much Photoshoppery?
On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 3:34 AM, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all This may have been discussed previously but I thought it might be worth canvassing PDMLers' views, in the light of Ann's comments on my recent Stumped - Take 2 PESO. I think most people would regard the recent Iran Missile fiasco as being in the way too much category and a few journalists have got themselves into strife in recent years by 'sexing up' news images. Although photography has always been a weapon of propaganda, well before the digital age, these are distorting history and can't be justified. At the other extreme, removing the odd dust spot or maybe a distracting leaf or branch would probably be regarded as being OK by most people. But what about the middle ground - when do we step over the line? snip So I turn on my computer on Monday morning at work and see this thread of some 65 posts! I'm sure what I'm about to say has been covered and discussed to death, but here's my take. At one extreme you've got PJ shots - shots that purport to be truth (whatever the hell that means!). I say that beyond cropping and cleaning up stuff that the camera/lens added (dust and hot pixels and the like) you don't do a thing. No cloning in or out. At the other extreme, you've got art photos, which are there to look pretty (or at least they are there to present someone's artistic vision - whatever the hell that means). Not much turns on whether something has been put in/taken out/altered in any way. Whatever truth they're conveying is contained within the image, they're not there to portray some truth external to the artist/viewer/image. At least not always. And then there's all the other stuff in between. I guess what's right or wrong is situational and has to be dealt with on a case by case basis. It comes down to what the photographer would want the viewer to believe, and how it's presented. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: When is a little Photoshoppery too much Photoshoppery?
Frank, I think you've summed up most of the responses in those 65 posts pretty well! Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:17:31 -0400, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 3:34 AM, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all This may have been discussed previously but I thought it might be worth canvassing PDMLers' views, in the light of Ann's comments on my recent Stumped - Take 2 PESO. I think most people would regard the recent Iran Missile fiasco as being in the way too much category and a few journalists have got themselves into strife in recent years by 'sexing up' news images. Although photography has always been a weapon of propaganda, well before the digital age, these are distorting history and can't be justified. At the other extreme, removing the odd dust spot or maybe a distracting leaf or branch would probably be regarded as being OK by most people. But what about the middle ground - when do we step over the line? snip So I turn on my computer on Monday morning at work and see this thread of some 65 posts! I'm sure what I'm about to say has been covered and discussed to death, but here's my take. At one extreme you've got PJ shots - shots that purport to be truth (whatever the hell that means!). I say that beyond cropping and cleaning up stuff that the camera/lens added (dust and hot pixels and the like) you don't do a thing. No cloning in or out. At the other extreme, you've got art photos, which are there to look pretty (or at least they are there to present someone's artistic vision - whatever the hell that means). Not much turns on whether something has been put in/taken out/altered in any way. Whatever truth they're conveying is contained within the image, they're not there to portray some truth external to the artist/viewer/image. At least not always. And then there's all the other stuff in between. I guess what's right or wrong is situational and has to be dealt with on a case by case basis. It comes down to what the photographer would want the viewer to believe, and how it's presented. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Does exactly what it says on the tin -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Another PC question
Get that drive backed up immediately. It is failing. Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com On Aug 18, 2008, at 4:59 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A while back my PC with XP home decided to not want to boot up. Gave me an error message after the intel Pentium 4 screen. I ran the disk scan etc, and it started to work ok, for the summer. Last night and today, it started giving me the error booting up abort dos message after the pentium 4 screen. Also something seems to click a few times at start up. Now it started. Is this my HD acting up. What i need to know, is if this disk fails, am i pooched here, for data recover if i need to install a new one. I have no experience in formating and starting over, and would look at getting some one to map my current drive and install a new one should that be the case. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Runnin' 'Shine on the Avenue
On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 7:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7676095size=lg Another shot that went in the gallery. Hmmm... Tom Wopat's looking his age finally! ;-) Fun shot, Paul. Never watched the show, but I loved the General Lee - always had a soft spot for Chargers for some reason... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - The Glance
Had a bear of a time trying to get this one to look right - shot in the shadows with a really harshly lit background. Still not entirely satisfied. I would also prefer that there not be a sign growing out of her head, but this ain't art, baby, this is reality (at least this photographer purports it to be such). ;-) Still, I think it has something to say (I'm just not sure what): http://tinyurl.com/57alxb http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SKlpsAl17KI/C4I/-iaHSa_a2GA/s1600-h/aug_18_08+006.jpg Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT - Olympic Panorama
One for the panorama junkies: http://www.karikuukka.com/peking2008/100m/ Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Old Boathouse
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 10:04 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I daringly took my camera and a few lenses out in the canoe yesterday. Not far from where we are staying is this old boathouse: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7680612size=lg Those are not Velvia greens; it has rained so much in New England that things are very lush. Just for jollies I tried a BW conversion: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7680613size=lg Those two rocks in the foreground are a problem; they are granite, and even in overcast they almost glow. No amount of diddling with curves and whatnot would tame them. K10D, DA 50-200, ISO 280, f/4.5 @ 1/125, RAW via LR. Beautiful shot, Rick. Prefer the colour version by a fair amount. The boathouse seems to get lost in the folliage in bw. It reminds me so much of boathouses up here in Canadian cottage countries of which I'm familiar - up in the Muskokas and Kawarthas (north of Toronto), in the Laurentians and Eastern Townships (around Montreal). I guess these things are ubiquitous around North America (at least the Northeast), but they're lovely, and this one is well-photographed. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Glance
hmmm - He is looking at you not her with that why are you taking my picture? expression.. but the sign isn't coming out of her head... The extreme tilting comes off to me more as arty than reality... but I'm only nitting cause you're so good ann frank theriault wrote: Had a bear of a time trying to get this one to look right - shot in the shadows with a really harshly lit background. Still not entirely satisfied. I would also prefer that there not be a sign growing out of her head, but this ain't art, baby, this is reality (at least this photographer purports it to be such). ;-) Still, I think it has something to say (I'm just not sure what): http://tinyurl.com/57alxb http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SKlpsAl17KI/C4I/-iaHSa_a2GA/s1600-h/aug_18_08+006.jpg Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Two grand for a manual Pentax!
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this is a rare variant of the H2 but bloody hell! http://cgi.ebay.com.au/The-Rarest-Pentax-of-All-The-PENTA-ASAHIFLEX_W0QQitemZ370075970096QQihZ024QQcategoryZ98923QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://tinyurl.com/5bwddc Damn you! I was going to bid on it, but now you'll have driven up the price!! ;-) Cool camera though... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Glance
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 11:50 AM, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hmmm - He is looking at you not her with that why are you taking my picture? expression.. but the sign isn't coming out of her head... The extreme tilting comes off to me more as arty than reality... but I'm only nitting cause you're so good Well, I never said who was glancing at whom, did I? Actually, I see it as more her glancing in his direction than the other way around. ;-) And, as for the tilt, I don't know what's real and what's artsy, but in this case it's not contrived, it's what it is. I just took it that way, and it was the only grab I had at it. When I tilt, it's not what I'm going for, it's what happens when I shoot. yet another grin Thanks for the comment, Ann! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Glance
Hmmm, I'd say it's more about art. A good shot. You could bring up the midrange tones with a curve adjustment. And -- dare I say it -- you could easily clone out the sign. Paul On Aug 18, 2008, at 10:52 AM, frank theriault wrote: Had a bear of a time trying to get this one to look right - shot in the shadows with a really harshly lit background. Still not entirely satisfied. I would also prefer that there not be a sign growing out of her head, but this ain't art, baby, this is reality (at least this photographer purports it to be such). ;-) Still, I think it has something to say (I'm just not sure what): http://tinyurl.com/57alxb http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SKlpsAl17KI/C4I/- iaHSa_a2GA/s1600-h/aug_18_08+006.jpg Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Glance
frank theriault wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 11:50 AM, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hmmm - He is looking at you not her with that why are you taking my picture? expression.. but the sign isn't coming out of her head... The extreme tilting comes off to me more as arty than reality... but I'm only nitting cause you're so good Well, I never said who was glancing at whom, did I? Actually, I see it as more her glancing in his direction than the other way around. ;-) Hehe -- well it was projection on my part -- I couldn't use the photo if I had taken it... I didn't think he liked you taking the photo... (You lookin at me???) and it bothered me. And, as for the tilt, I don't know what's real and what's artsy, but in this case it's not contrived, it's what it is. I just took it that way, and it was the only grab I had at it. When I tilt, it's not what I'm going for, it's what happens when I shoot. yet another grin Thanks for the comment, Ann! I just meant I would straighten it a bit ... I dont think adjusting perspective takes away the street quality... I know it was as you took it Gary um,I mean, Frank ... :) Ok, now I need more coffee ann cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Norway 2008
Nice gallery Cotty. No obvious duds. I had a net chat with Jossy the evening after you left, and it was obvious that he enjoyed the meeting. Unfortunately I couldn't make it. Perhaps next time. -- MaritimTim 2008/8/17 Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Nearly a hundred pics! Fear not - easy to see thumbs for avoiding duds. http://gallery.me.com/cottycam#100019 -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Norway 2008
Forgot one thing about the gallery. It's a shame you don't shot with a proper camera. -- MaritimTim 2008/8/18 Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Nice gallery Cotty. No obvious duds. I had a net chat with Jossy the evening after you left, and it was obvious that he enjoyed the meeting. Unfortunately I couldn't make it. Perhaps next time. -- MaritimTim 2008/8/17 Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Nearly a hundred pics! Fear not - easy to see thumbs for avoiding duds. http://gallery.me.com/cottycam#100019 -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- MaritimTim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Glance
Interaction forces are obvious and well seen. Refreshing grab comments, Frank. Jack --- On Mon, 8/18/08, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO - The Glance To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 8:55 AM On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 11:50 AM, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hmmm - He is looking at you not her with that why are you taking my picture? expression.. but the sign isn't coming out of her head... The extreme tilting comes off to me more as arty than reality... but I'm only nitting cause you're so good Well, I never said who was glancing at whom, did I? Actually, I see it as more her glancing in his direction than the other way around. ;-) And, as for the tilt, I don't know what's real and what's artsy, but in this case it's not contrived, it's what it is. I just took it that way, and it was the only grab I had at it. When I tilt, it's not what I'm going for, it's what happens when I shoot. yet another grin Thanks for the comment, Ann! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Something Here's Not Right!
He seemed to be looking to me for help in rectifying what was obviously (to him) an inequitable situation Either that or he wanted to pee on your leg. Cute take. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Something Here's Not Right! He seemed to be looking to me for help in rectifying what was obviously (to him) an inequitable situation, but alas, how could I maintain my objectivity if I entered the fray? Sadly, I had to decline his entreaties... . http://tinyurl.com/5st36f http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SKlpGvjSvrI/C3w/vGPktlLKpnw/s1600-h/aug_18_08+003.jpg Comments are always welcome. cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Olympic Panorama
And for Canon and Nikon junkies. On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 5:08 PM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One for the panorama junkies: http://www.karikuukka.com/peking2008/100m/ Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Runnin' 'Shine on the Avenue
And so it should Thats a great shot. Colours are great Dave On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 7:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7676095size=lg Another shot that went in the gallery. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Strange bug
I remember... Being in swarms of mosquitos so thick that I couldn't change lenses without getting them in the camera. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Strange bug - Original Message - From: AlunFoto Subject: Re: OT: Strange bug I remember I once got dust mites inside the mirror housing of my first camera (Pentax P50). It was pretty weird to see those small, half-transparent bugs wander across the matte screen. At first I didn't know what it was, and made the mistake of asking about it in a camera shop... -You should have seen those faces... I remember. A lady came into my camera store with a lens that she insisted was falling apart. It had a couple of largish black specks in it. That was looking through the lens one way. The other way revealed a couple of very dead insects on one of the lens elements. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: When is a little Photoshoppery too much Photoshoppery?
On 8/16/08, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob, do i dare ask the reason(s) behind your dislike of tolkien? I've never read anything by him, or seen any of the movies, and I never will. This is pure prejudice. Whimsical twee kitsch. Stupid made-up names. Complete absence of irony. Overblown self-regarding pomposity (describing his scribblings as 'legendarium', for feck's sake!). Guilt by association with so many of the dickheads who used to rave about the stuff and take it seriously - generally the sort of prat who danced along with Ian Anderson's crappy flute solos like pissed-up pixies with chillies on their 'roids. What are chillies? Are they chilis? Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of S J Sent: 16 August 2008 10:38 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: When is a little Photoshoppery too much Photoshoppery? On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *although personally I would imprison all writers of fantasy science fiction, and if he were still alive I would have Tolkien cut into small pieces and fed to dwarves. when i first read him (in the mid 80s, much much before the movies) it was kind of refreshing. but then it didn't take me long understand that (to me) he was more or less a reactionary, right-of-centre (if not exactly right wing) writerand being that kind of astonishing that he became an icon of the sixties (not that i was there in the sixties, my ideas of the 60s are purely derived ones...) just curious on a lazy weekend... :-)) regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Glance
On Aug 18, 2008, at 10:50, ann sanfedele wrote: hmmm - He is looking at you not her with that why are you taking my picture? expression.. I don't get that at all - he's looking at the lady to the left (and she at him) Still, I think it has something to say (I'm just not sure what): http://tinyurl.com/57alxb http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SKlpsAl17KI/C4I/-iaHSa_a2GA/s1600-h/aug_18_08+006.jpg I'm not sure what it says either...! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Glance
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't get that at all - he's looking at the lady to the left (and she at him) I'm not sure what he's looking at. Unfortunately, I couldn't bring his eyes up enough that I could really see - it's either me or her, don't know which. I'm not sure what it says either...! Join the club! ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Two grand for a manual Pentax!
Re the Subject line, it's better than two grand for a Pentax manual! keith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Shel?
Has it ever been answered: whatever happened to Shel Belinkoff? May be I missed it? keith whaley -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: When is a little Photoshoppery too much Photoshoppery?
What are chillies? Are they chilis? Yes -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO (Galia) Belgium 2008
Hi! Galia and I together brought more than 2,000 images from the trip we just had. The task of sorting and processing is going to take some time to complete. Here is a small gallery of pictures taken by Galia during our visit to Belgium. Special thanks goes to Thibouille who photo-dueled with Galia a lot ;-). No processing was applied except very minor tonal adjustment. All these are full frames as they were shot. Any comments, especially to Galia's father :-), will be greatly appreciated. http://boris.isra-shop.com/galia_belgium_2008/index.html Enjoy! Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Glance
Charles -- I said the first line... about the guy looking at the camera I don't know who said Still, I think it has something to say (I'm just not sure what): but it wasnt me - as it appears to be , below ann :) Charles Robinson wrote: On Aug 18, 2008, at 10:50, ann sanfedele wrote: hmmm - He is looking at you not her with that why are you taking my picture? expression.. I don't get that at all - he's looking at the lady to the left (and she at him) Still, I think it has something to say (I'm just not sure what): http://tinyurl.com/57alxb http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SKlpsAl17KI/C4I/-iaHSa_a2GA/s1600-h/aug_18_08+006.jpg I'm not sure what it says either...! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO (Galia) Belgium 2008
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Galia and I together brought more than 2,000 images from the trip we just had. The task of sorting and processing is going to take some time to complete. Here is a small gallery of pictures taken by Galia during our visit to Belgium. Special thanks goes to Thibouille who photo-dueled with Galia a lot ;-). No processing was applied except very minor tonal adjustment. All these are full frames as they were shot. Any comments, especially to Galia's father :-), will be greatly appreciated. http://boris.isra-shop.com/galia_belgium_2008/index.html These are wonderful shots, Galia!! You've got the concepts of tilt and blur down pat (I seriously mean that as a compliment - your father will tell you that many of my shots are tilted and blurred). ;-) Great work. You're a natural photographer! cheers, frank ps: ask your father who the people in these photos are - they are obviously Pentaxians like yourself. -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Shel?
Hi Keith, After the last query, I sent him a note and he responded within a couple of hours. His health has been a big issue of late, but recent treatment has him feeling better and being a bit more able. His vision is much improved now too, and he is looking forward to being able to do some photography again soon. That's when I know he's at least holding his own. :-) I sent him regards from those on the list who asked for him. Godfrey On Aug 18, 2008, at 10:39 AM, keith_w wrote: Has it ever been answered: whatever happened to Shel Belinkoff? May be I missed it? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Glance
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 2:27 PM, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know who said Still, I think it has something to say (I'm just not sure what): but it wasnt me - as it appears to be , below I was the one who said it has something to say (but I don't know what). And I stand by that comment! ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Any one else doing less personal photography this summer
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 6:57 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a lets throw this question out there. I used to do quite a bit of driving, looking for photo ops regarding rural landscapes etc., and i thought having 9 weeks off for school break would give me more opportunities, but, i'm finding i have done less this summer than in the past. My shows do keep me busy, but i still have some time to my self during the regular work week. Wonder if subconcesly i reguired a break, or i really do care about high fuel prices. Any one else like this Dave Actually, I think I'm doing more shooting than ever this summer. My girlfriend has been bitten by the photography bug, and we both carry our cameras wherever we go. In fact, she's more-than-outgrown her little Oly PS, and one day we'll likely be looking for a Pentax dslr body so we can swap lenses. But I digress. The other factor is that I've now been shooting digital since about April of '07. Last summer I was shooting a fair bit, but still hadn't gotten into the swing of things. This summer I'm shooting much more. I've gotta say, I'd become somewhat moribund and complacent with film, and digital really rejuvenated my interest in taking photos (for better or worse). ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Shel?
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Hi Keith, After the last query, I sent him a note and he responded within a couple of hours. His health has been a big issue of late, but recent treatment has him feeling better and being a bit more able. His vision is much improved now too, and he is looking forward to being able to do some photography again soon. That's when I know he's at least holding his own. :-) Great news! I'll drop him a line... Thanks a lot! keith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT - Olympic Panorama
One for the panorama junkies: http://www.karikuukka.com/peking2008/100m/ And for Canon and Nikon junkies. Seriously. I wonder if ANY photographer over there is using something other than Canon or Nikon. John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Another PC question
Obviously the most important thing is to save your data, and you shouldn't do anything to compromise that. However you may not have to reload XP. Generally it's not possible to copy the drive partition where the operating system is, but there is a free program that can do this called xxclone (at www.xxclone.com/). If you can save your data first, you could put a new drive in your PC (preferably already partitioned) and run xxclone - beware it will wipe any data on the partition you clone into. I used this last year when I had a clicking drive. Cloning takes quite a long time (~20-30 mins I recall), so it was nerveracking to see if the drive would last long enough, but it worked. The clone was slightly smaller than the original, but everything seemed to work fine, and it still does one year on. As the cloning process takes longer than copying the data, I guess the drive is more likely to fail, so I repeat that you shouldn't attempt it until your data is safe. However if you can get it to work you are saved the major hassle and time of having to reload everything. good luck Alistair (the lurker) On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David J Brooks wrote: Also something seems to click a few times at start up. Now it started. Is this my HD acting up. Something clicking at startup is usually the hard drive, though it could also be the CD/DVD drive or the floppy drive (if you have one). To confirm the problem, if you can get Windows XP to boot and run, click on Start, then Run and type eventvwr into the Open edit box. When the Event Viewer window appears, click on System in the left hand pane, then click on the Source column in the right hand pane to sort by source. Look for all warnings and errors from the disk source to see any problems that Windows XP has been reporting for your disks. In terms of getting going again, the best bet would probably be to remove the offending drive and install a replacement, get XP installed and running on that new drive, then install the old drive as D: (or whatever) and copy whatever you can/want from the old drive to the new one before the old one gives up the ghost forever. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2008 - something different - GDG
On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something different from other photos I've been posting lately ... http://homepage.mac.com/godders/smcc-haircut.jpg Haircut - San Jose 2008 Panasonic L1 + Olympus ZD 25mm f/2.8 ISO 100 @ f/2.8 @ 1/250 (five exposures) Comments and critique always appreciated. Very cool concept, well-executed! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO (Galia) Belgium 2008
On Aug 18, 2008, at 11:25 , Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a small gallery of pictures taken by Galia during our visit to Belgium http://boris.isra-shop.com/galia_belgium_2008/index.html regards the last frame in this series: August 05, 2008 - @ 6.3 mm - 1/250 sec at f / 3.3 I don't know where you got it, but I want one of those lenses for my K20D! Joseph McAllister Pentaxian PS - Wait... I think I already have one on my Z10, and it's not that wide an angle. :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT - Olympic Panorama
One for the panorama junkies: http://www.karikuukka.com/peking2008/100m/ And for Canon and Nikon junkies. Seriously. I wonder if ANY photographer over there is using something other than Canon or Nikon. John Just before the men's 100m final the other day the TV coverage pulled away to show the number of photographers waiting at the other end of the track. It was an awesome sight - far more than in that panorama. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Two grand for a manual Pentax!
I think I paid $35.00 for a Honeywell H2 in similar condition a couple of years ago, to get a SMC Tak lens that came with it. Brian Walters wrote: I know this is a rare variant of the H2 but bloody hell! http://cgi.ebay.com.au/The-Rarest-Pentax-of-All-The-PENTA-ASAHIFLEX_W0QQitemZ370075970096QQihZ024QQcategoryZ98923QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://tinyurl.com/5bwddc Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
From now on I shall call myself The Great Destroyer...
I've had no end of weird problems. Two months ago, my AF540FGZ decided that it didn't want to work in P- TTL mode. The preflash (if there is any at all) is so weak that the K10D sees the room as DARK DARK DARK and thus cranks the flash output up to about 100%. Sadness. Still works great in the A mode, though, so I haven't sent it in yet. A couple days ago I figured out that the problems I've been having with the 16-50 not getting a focus lock at infinity when at 16mm is directly related to the Anti-Shake - if I turn of Anti-Shake it locks focus at infinity every time. Any other distance (or zoom setting) and it's a non-problem. I don't know yet if this is something related to the lens, the camera, or a magic combination. This problem, though, seems to have shown up since having the 16-50 serviced for a broken screw somewhere in the barrel which was causing the lens to be wobbly. Oy Vey! Lastly, I'm shooting an event a few nights ago and I decide to use the EF 500 DG Super, so I can have my P-TTL goodness. Halfway through, I decided I want to use trailing-curtain flash. With the 540 you can set all of this from the camera body, but the Sigma won't do it unless you select that mode directly from the back of the flash. However... NONE of the buttons on the rear of the flash work anymore, so it's stuck in the default P-TTL mode and that's that. I wonder if sending it in to get the re-chip required for K10D wireless compatibility would magically fix this problem too? (sigh) This kind of thing makes me weary. Nothing any of you can do about it, I know, but I just wanted to vent. Does anybody else here ever feel like they're the only one who manages to have things break on them all the time? -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Strange bug
Yeah well click on the japanese bicycle commuter to see what you get On 8/17/08, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have a look at this webpage: http://www.nordicgroup.us/s78/flashlights.html Scroll down to the section headed 'Commercial Flashlight Holders' and take a look at the frame on the right hand side. There's a teensy little flea wandering around inside it. How strange. It's an animated gif. Presumably the programmer who wrote the page was a bit bored at the time. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: When is a little Photoshoppery too much Photoshoppery?
Gonz wrote: On 8/16/08, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob, do i dare ask the reason(s) behind your dislike of tolkien? I've never read anything by him, or seen any of the movies, and I never will. This is pure prejudice. Whimsical twee kitsch. Stupid made-up names. Complete absence of irony. Overblown self-regarding pomposity (describing his scribblings as 'legendarium', for feck's sake!). Guilt by association with so many of the dickheads who used to rave about the stuff and take it seriously - generally the sort of prat who danced along with Ian Anderson's crappy flute solos like pissed-up pixies with chillies on their 'roids. What are chillies? Are they chilis? I thought he was referring to cubes, (ice that is). Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of S J Sent: 16 August 2008 10:38 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: When is a little Photoshoppery too much Photoshoppery? On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *although personally I would imprison all writers of fantasy science fiction, and if he were still alive I would have Tolkien cut into small pieces and fed to dwarves. when i first read him (in the mid 80s, much much before the movies) it was kind of refreshing. but then it didn't take me long understand that (to me) he was more or less a reactionary, right-of-centre (if not exactly right wing) writerand being that kind of astonishing that he became an icon of the sixties (not that i was there in the sixties, my ideas of the 60s are purely derived ones...) just curious on a lazy weekend... :-)) regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Innocent victims of Russian Agression PHOTO BY GIORGI ABDALADZE
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Re: OT: Strange bug
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah well click on the japanese bicycle commuter to see what you get Dear me! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Shel?
He was having some medical problems and dropped of the list. I asked that question a few months ago and Godfrey forwarded my question to him, and he got back to me. I'll see if I can find his e-mail address, (my copy of Firefox corrupted my address book after a power failure a while back and I'll have to see if I can reconstruct it to his), if you want to contact him. I'm sure he'd love to hear from a list member. keith_w wrote: Has it ever been answered: whatever happened to Shel Belinkoff? May be I missed it? keith whaley -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: Strange bug
!!! The programmer was very bored! Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gonz Sent: 18 August 2008 21:47 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: Strange bug Yeah well click on the japanese bicycle commuter to see what you get On 8/17/08, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have a look at this webpage: http://www.nordicgroup.us/s78/flashlights.html Scroll down to the section headed 'Commercial Flashlight Holders' and take a look at the frame on the right hand side. There's a teensy little flea wandering around inside it. How strange. It's an animated gif. Presumably the programmer who wrote the page was a bit bored at the time. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Glance
Frank, I wish you had more light in the detail on the 2nd man's face. I think it's too hard to keep detail here and in the wall in the distance. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 9:52 AM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had a bear of a time trying to get this one to look right - shot in the shadows with a really harshly lit background. Still not entirely satisfied. I would also prefer that there not be a sign growing out of her head, but this ain't art, baby, this is reality (at least this photographer purports it to be such). ;-) Still, I think it has something to say (I'm just not sure what): http://tinyurl.com/57alxb http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SKlpsAl17KI/C4I/-iaHSa_a2GA/s1600-h/aug_18_08+006.jpg Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Glance
Frank, I wish you had more light in the detail on the 2nd man's face. I think it's too hard to keep detail here and in the wall in the distance. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 9:52 AM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had a bear of a time trying to get this one to look right - shot in the shadows with a really harshly lit background. Still not entirely satisfied. I would also prefer that there not be a sign growing out of her head, but this ain't art, baby, this is reality (at least this photographer purports it to be such). ;-) Still, I think it has something to say (I'm just not sure what): http://tinyurl.com/57alxb http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SKlpsAl17KI/C4I/-iaHSa_a2GA/s1600-h/aug_18_08+006.jpg Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Shel?
On Aug 18, 2008, at 15:48, P. J. Alling wrote: He was having some medical problems and dropped of the list. I asked that question a few months ago and Godfrey forwarded my question to him, and he got back to me. I'll see if I can find his e-mail address, (my copy of Firefox corrupted my address book after a power failure a while back and I'll have to see if I can reconstruct it to his), if you want to contact him. I'm sure he'd love to hear from a list member. My archives show: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Innocent victims of Russian Agression PHOTO BY GIORGI ABDALADZE
On 18/8/08, Roman Melihhov, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.flickr.com/photos/torquado/2758776777/sizes/o/in/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3276/2758776777_0157378782_o.jpg Nice. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Norway 2008
On 18/8/08, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: I had a net chat with Jossy the evening after you left, and it was obvious that he enjoyed the meeting. Unfortunately I couldn't make it. Perhaps next time. LOL. Jossy?!??! To close to Pussy for my comfort Indeed - like maybe next year oh I don't know where. 8-D -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Strange bug
The first time I tried, the server timed out. I think you initiate a manual DOS attack... Gonz wrote: Yeah well click on the japanese bicycle commuter to see what you get On 8/17/08, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have a look at this webpage: http://www.nordicgroup.us/s78/flashlights.html Scroll down to the section headed 'Commercial Flashlight Holders' and take a look at the frame on the right hand side. There's a teensy little flea wandering around inside it. How strange. It's an animated gif. Presumably the programmer who wrote the page was a bit bored at the time. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Norway 2008
On 18/8/08, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: Forgot one thing about the gallery. It's a shame you don't shot with a proper camera. Fear not you will die an honourable death, I will make it quick and painless. (traditional Klingon) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Something Here's Not Right!
One of your fellow creatures was suffering from want of ice cream, on of the most important foods. You should be ashamed... (Nice conversion and very amusing actually). frank theriault wrote: He seemed to be looking to me for help in rectifying what was obviously (to him) an inequitable situation, but alas, how could I maintain my objectivity if I entered the fray? Sadly, I had to decline his entreaties... . http://tinyurl.com/5st36f http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SKlpGvjSvrI/C3w/vGPktlLKpnw/s1600-h/aug_18_08+003.jpg Comments are always welcome. cheers, frank -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Glance
The background is still pretty blown out. I think a replacement sky, thought a bit of trickery would have been in order. frank theriault wrote: Had a bear of a time trying to get this one to look right - shot in the shadows with a really harshly lit background. Still not entirely satisfied. I would also prefer that there not be a sign growing out of her head, but this ain't art, baby, this is reality (at least this photographer purports it to be such). ;-) Still, I think it has something to say (I'm just not sure what): http://tinyurl.com/57alxb http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SKlpsAl17KI/C4I/-iaHSa_a2GA/s1600-h/aug_18_08+006.jpg Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Innocent victims of Russian Agression PHOTO BY GIORGI ABDALADZE
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Roman Melihhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/torquado/2758776777/sizes/o/in/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3276/2758776777_0157378782_o.jpg While what's going on over there is most horrid, we sort of have this agreement on this list that certain topics aren't appropriate for discussion. Politics is one of them. What you've presented isn't just war photography, as your subject line certainly brings politics into it. I have no idea who's right or wrong in this war. I really don't give a rat's ass. Innocent civilians are dying, and that's wrong. However, there are many other forums (fora?) at which you'll find many willing participants in a discussion as to who's right or wrong, and who's attacking whom with what justification. This isn't one of them. With the greatest of respect (and I mean that - you and your family may be embroiled in this, and if that's the case my heart goes out to you), this ought not be brought up here. You posted something else very political about this war a week or two ago, and no one said anything, likely because no one wanted to participate in a flame war. Please keep such posts off this list. thank you, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Strange bug
On 18/8/08, Gonz, discombobulated, unleashed: Yeah well click on the japanese bicycle commuter to see what you get LOL! Excellent :) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2008 - something different - GDG
On Aug 18, 2008, at 13:52 , frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something different from other photos I've been posting lately ... http://homepage.mac.com/godders/smcc-haircut.jpg Haircut - San Jose 2008 Panasonic L1 + Olympus ZD 25mm f/2.8 ISO 100 @ f/2.8 @ 1/250 (five exposures) Comments and critique always appreciated. Very cool concept, well-executed! cheers, frank Are those photos cropped? :-) Joseph McAllister Pentaxian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: From now on I shall call myself The Great Destroyer...
On Aug 18, 2008, at 13:52 , Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (sigh) This kind of thing makes me weary. Nothing any of you can do about it, I know, but I just wanted to vent. Does anybody else here ever feel like they're the only one who manages to have things break on them all the time? -Charles Computers, Audio, Photography - all seem to be against me at one time or another. You are not alone Charles. Joseph McAllister Pentaxian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Another PC question
Thanks all that replied. I have just finished getting all my web pages together from the show this weekend, and loaded up on the site. I have made sure all my photos, downloaded drivers and some important documents are on the externals. I;ll try Doug's idea first. Just one more question before i turn it off. If i cannot boot up at all, can i still get some one to install a new HD and load up my XP etc, then have the new C drive read the old drive, say as D drive or what ever, or is it fails am i toast. A few programs on the existing C that i might have trouble reloading, IYKWIM Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Photography as a weapon (was Re: When is a little Photoshoppery too much Photoshoppery?)
Brian Walters wrote: Frank, I think you've summed up most of the responses in those 65 posts pretty well! Cheers Brian In somewhat more words, Errol Morris (remember the Roger Fenton Crimean War cannonball analysis) discusses this subject with a digital photography expert http://morris.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/11/photography-as-a-weapon/index.html D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Innocent victims of Russian Agression PHOTO BY GIORGI ABDALADZE
Cotty, you know you're an evil man, don't you... O:-) Cotty wrote: On 18/8/08, Roman Melihhov, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.flickr.com/photos/torquado/2758776777/sizes/o/in/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3276/2758776777_0157378782_o.jpg Nice. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Shel?
P. J. Alling wrote: He was having some medical problems and dropped of the list. I asked that question a few months ago and Godfrey forwarded my question to him, and he got back to me. I'll see if I can find his e-mail address, (my copy of Firefox corrupted my address book after a power failure a while back and I'll have to see if I can reconstruct it to his), if you want to contact him. I'm sure he'd love to hear from a list member. keith_w wrote: Has it ever been answered: whatever happened to Shel Belinkoff? May be I missed it? keith whaley I still have his earthlink.net address. I'll try that. keith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photography as a weapon (was Re: When is a little Photoshoppery too much Photoshoppery?)
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In somewhat more words, Errol Morris (remember the Roger Fenton Crimean War cannonball analysis) discusses this subject with a digital photography expert http://morris.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/11/photography-as-a-weapon/index.html I'm still working through this most interesting article, but early on he certainly sums up why photography is such an incredibly powerful medium: The Vietnam War, the war abroad and the war at home, has been reduced to a few iconic images — the Napalm girl, the girl at Kent State. What seems to emerge from major events and eras are one or two images that effectively embody the emotion and rage, the happiness and anger. The whole thing somehow is enfolded in there. The brain is just very good at processing visual imageries and bringing in memories associated with images. Photography remains the ~only~ medium that can freeze time - that can capture a moment; it's so realistic that even if altered, our brain (on an emotional level) has no choice to react. No wonder our reactions to some images are so visceral. Now back to the article. Thanks for posting it, BTW. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Another PC question
Dave: Never trust a flakey/failing drive. Get any important data OFF that drive while it's running and working. You never know if it will ever be again... Data recovery is very expensive and only marginally successful in most cases. G On Aug 18, 2008, at 2:24 PM, David J Brooks wrote: Thanks all that replied. I have just finished getting all my web pages together from the show this weekend, and loaded up on the site. I have made sure all my photos, downloaded drivers and some important documents are on the externals. I;ll try Doug's idea first. Just one more question before i turn it off. If i cannot boot up at all, can i still get some one to install a new HD and load up my XP etc, then have the new C drive read the old drive, say as D drive or what ever, or is it fails am i toast. A few programs on the existing C that i might have trouble reloading, IYKWIM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Apollo archive
On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Boring featureless skies. Expanses of dull grey foreground. Lens flare. Ignoring rule of thirds. Plenty of inadvertent shutter releases. But darn I love this stuff. Click on Full Hasselblad Magazines http://www.apolloarchive.com/apollo_gallery.html Coincidentally, I also saw this page for the first time today http://www.hasselblad.com/about-hasselblad/hasselblad-in-space/space-cameras.aspx OnlyWe then apply the knowledge and expertise we gain in space and bring it back to earth, further improving the Hasselblad line. Gag All taken at a studio in New Mexico somewhere, right? ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Summertime Treat
On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Been gone for a week shooting UP north, so this will seem out of sequence - Looks good to me ! So how did you get the exposure you wound up with (in camera)? I just shot on Programme, but I cropped out a fair bit of that blown out background, so her face was actually quite underexposed on the full-frame in-camera image. Thanks for commenting (and thanks to everyone else who commented as well). cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photography as a weapon (was Re: When is a little Photoshoppery too much Photoshoppery?)
frank theriault wrote: Photography remains the ~only~ medium that can freeze time - that can capture a moment; it's so realistic that even if altered, our brain (on an emotional level) has no choice to react. No wonder our reactions to some images are so visceral. One of the Life magazine photo books I read once began with an interesting thought experiment: Overlook the technical detail that movies consist of a series of still images and imagine if still photography had been invented *after* motion picture photography. Think about how amazed people would have been about the ability to freeze a moment in time. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Norway 2008
Very well done, Cotty. Lots of fun watching. Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Aug 17, 2008 21:30 Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice stuff, unfortunately the Auto-resizing that MobileMe does to make the images fit the screen doesn't play well with high-res screens like my 21 1856x1394 display. -Adam On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nearly a hundred pics! Fear not - easy to see thumbs for avoiding duds. http://gallery.me.com/cottycam#100019 -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Norway 2008 - the Pentax version
Very nice indeed, Jostien. You had a great time, with great shots. Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Aug 17, 2008 23:28 AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cotty's done the Canon version. :-) http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/thumbnails.php?album=9 Pics sized to within 1024x768 px. cheers, Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Photography as a weapon (was Re: When is a little Photoshopperytoo much Photoshoppery?)
One of the Life magazine photo books I read once began with an interesting thought experiment: Overlook the technical detail that movies consist of a series of still images and imagine if still photography had been invented *after* motion picture photography. Think about how amazed people would have been about the ability to freeze a moment in time. I'm not sure I understand why they bring motion pictures into it. People _were_ amazed at the ability to freeze a moment in time. What has often surprised me, though, is that people seem to have been more amazed at the camera's ability to resolve detail. I suppose this is because people were used to paintings and so on (still images), but no painting had achieved the level of detail of a photograph. But then having said that I am often amazed by the realism (not necessarily detail) achieved in some oil paintings, Rembrandt being a good example. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Olympic Panorama
I heard on the radio the other day there were 110 official photographers @ the Olympics. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT - Olympic Panorama One for the panorama junkies: http://www.karikuukka.com/peking2008/100m/ And for Canon and Nikon junkies. Seriously. I wonder if ANY photographer over there is using something other than Canon or Nikon. John Just before the men's 100m final the other day the TV coverage pulled away to show the number of photographers waiting at the other end of the track. It was an awesome sight - far more than in that panorama. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT - Olympic Panorama
Official meaning 'representing the IOC' I assume. That sounds like a very low number. Even in 1936 Leni Riefenstahl had hundreds of photographers and cameramen beavering away. And that was just at her... There must be thousands of accredited photographers. Every press organisation in the world must have dozens of photographers - probably hundreds, considering the number of events taking place. There are probably as many photographers as there are athletes. Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Waller Sent: 18 August 2008 23:36 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT - Olympic Panorama I heard on the radio the other day there were 110 official photographers @ the Olympics. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT - Olympic Panorama One for the panorama junkies: http://www.karikuukka.com/peking2008/100m/ And for Canon and Nikon junkies. Seriously. I wonder if ANY photographer over there is using something other than Canon or Nikon. John Just before the men's 100m final the other day the TV coverage pulled away to show the number of photographers waiting at the other end of the track. It was an awesome sight - far more than in that panorama. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Olympic Panorama
Maybe 1 or 2 A700's or E-3's. -Adam On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 3:21 PM, John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One for the panorama junkies: http://www.karikuukka.com/peking2008/100m/ And for Canon and Nikon junkies. Seriously. I wonder if ANY photographer over there is using something other than Canon or Nikon. John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: From now on I shall call myself The Great Destroyer...
On Aug 18, 2008, at 16:20, Joseph McAllister wrote: Computers, Audio, Photography - all seem to be against me at one time or another. You are not alone Charles. Thanks Joseph, that is a comfort to hear! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Another PC question
David J Brooks wrote: Just one more question before i turn it off. If i cannot boot up at all, can i still get some one to install a new HD and load up my XP etc, then have the new C drive read the old drive, say as D drive or what ever, or is it fails am i toast. First, don't turn it off until you have the new drive beside it and you're ready to do the install. Second, don't turn it off until you've burned yourself a copy of a Boot from CD version of Linux like Knoppix. If worse comes to worst, that bootable CD might let you recover (some of) your data even if the drive won't boot. If you're lucky, the failure is under some software rather than your data files. You'd just boot the Knoppix (or whatever) CD and use its tools to copy stuff from the hard drive partition(s) to some other location, like a thumb drive or external hard drive or something. A few programs on the existing C that i might have trouble reloading, IYKWIM That's always a risk, and there's usually not anything you can do at this stage of the game. You can help avoid this by maintaining good archives (physical) of the CDs, download files, and installation keys for all of your software. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Olympic Panorama
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 12:21:59PM -0700, John Celio wrote: One for the panorama junkies: http://www.karikuukka.com/peking2008/100m/ And for Canon and Nikon junkies. Seriously. I wonder if ANY photographer over there is using something other than Canon or Nikon. John I doubt it. The Olympics is a big venue, so photo passes are likely to be restricted to full-time sports photojournalists. I doubt if more than a handful of those guys shoot anything other than Nikon or Canon. I know that if my livelihood depended on it I wouldn't be using Pentax. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Olympic Panorama
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 09:11:07PM +0100, Bob W wrote: One for the panorama junkies: http://www.karikuukka.com/peking2008/100m/ And for Canon and Nikon junkies. Seriously. I wonder if ANY photographer over there is using something other than Canon or Nikon. John Just before the men's 100m final the other day the TV coverage pulled away to show the number of photographers waiting at the other end of the track. It was an awesome sight - far more than in that panorama. Bob I'm sure the number of accredited photographers is well into four figures. Just this morning I noticed that the front page photograph on my local paper (the San Jose Mercury News) - a photograph taken of the athletes just after crossing the finishing line of the women's 100m sprint - was taken by a Mercury News photographer, not by someone from a press agency. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
