RE: OT: Strange bug

[Bob W]

> > Yeah well click on the japanese bicycle commuter to see 
> what you get
> 
> Have I ever mentioned how infatuated I am with Japanese women?
> 
> William Robb

Forget about them, Bill. They're all wok and noh play.

Bob


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Re: OT: Strange bug

[Doug]

On Aug 18, 2008, at 4:47 PM, Gonz wrote:

> Yeah well click on the japanese bicycle commuter to see what you  
> get

that's probably why my wife won't let me get one of those stationary  
bike trainer things

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was Re: Innocent victims of Russian Agression PHOTO BY GIORGI, ABDALADZE

[Roman Melihhov]

If you expect me to jump into your liberal don't give a sh** reply - 
think again. I often read and review comments sometimes later, when I 
have time for it and response either directly to the poster or to the 
list, but here you made your point clear. No war discussions here, it's 
okay with me. I'll have no time for photography if I'd respond every 
message I read here. The photo of Giorgi Abdaladze is emotionally tense 
and it really hurts. Given that most of the list members are middle aged 
(bald) men as someone said once, the woman on picture could easily go 
for your wife. Think, would you like to see your wife, a mother in the 
same situation as 
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7697192&size=lg and you'll sense 
the full drama of this war, without whose right, whose wrong, who fired 
first and who fired 140es.

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Re: PESO: What??

[Cotty]

On 18/8/08, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

>
>What are we looking at here? There are approximately 140 clues.
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7697192&size=lg

Outdoor buffet with a semi as a backdrop?

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Re: MX shutter stuck open

[Cotty]

On 18/8/08, Andy Danzig, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I have a 1979 Pentax MX.  Every few years the shutters locks open.
>The camera will be working great and without warning, in the middle of
>a roll, the shutter will lock open and won't release.  I'm tired of
>sending it off for service and am looking for help to troubleshoot
>this problem myself.
>Any advice or information you can provide is greatly appreciated.

You say the shutter locks open - is it indeed still exposing or is it
just the mirror in the up position?

Is the mirror sticking to the spongy mirror-stops? Next time it locks
open, remove the lens and see if the mirror is still up. If so, try
carefully helping it down with your finger, see if it finishes the exposure.

Easy to see in a test - remove lens and film back and operate while observing.

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Re: Innocent victims of Russian Agression PHOTO BY GIORGI ABDALADZE

[P. J. Alling]

But what happens if you write it in European notation 7-Oct-2007?  :-P


Gonz wrote:
> What do you mean flame war?  On this peaceful list?  Never!
>
> Like this.?
>
> Putin is the Antichrist, proof:
>
> Birthdate: Oct 7, 1952
>
> Written this way:  19521007
>
> Backwards:  70012591
>
> Some tricky arithmetic:
>  700
> -125
> + 91
> ---
>  666
>
> ;)
>
> On 8/18/08, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Roman Melihhov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  > http://www.flickr.com/photos/torquado/2758776777/sizes/o/in/[EMAIL 
>> PROTECTED]/
>>  >
>>  > http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3276/2758776777_0157378782_o.jpg
>>
>>
>> While what's going on over there is most horrid, we sort of have this
>>  agreement on this list that certain topics aren't appropriate for
>>  discussion.  Politics is one of them.  What you've presented isn't
>>  just "war photography", as your subject line certainly brings politics
>>  into it.
>>
>>  I have no idea who's right or wrong in this war.  I really don't give
>>  a rat's ass.  Innocent civilians are dying, and that's wrong.
>>
>>  However, there are many other forums (fora?) at which you'll find many
>>  willing participants in a discussion as to who's right or wrong, and
>>  who's attacking whom with what justification.
>>
>>  This isn't one of them.
>>
>>  With the greatest of respect (and I mean that - you and your family
>>  may be embroiled in this, and if that's the case my heart goes out to
>>  you), this ought not be brought up here.  You posted something else
>>  very political about this war a week or two ago, and no one said
>>  anything, likely because no one wanted to participate in a flame war.
>>
>>  Please keep such posts off this list.
>>
>>  thank you,
>>  frank
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Innocent victims of Russian Agression PHOTO BY GIORGI ABDALADZE

[Cotty]

On 18/8/08, John Celio, discombobulated, unleashed:

>You may want to CC your post to Roman, Frank, since he doesn't always appear
>to pay much attention to what is said on the list when he posts.

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Re: PESO: What??

[AlunFoto]

Agility course for junk food addicts?

Jostein

2008/8/19 Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> What are we looking at here? There are approximately 140 clues.
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7697192&size=lg
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Re: Innocent victims of Russian Agression PHOTO BY GIORGI ABDALADZE

[Gonz]

What do you mean flame war?  On this peaceful list?  Never!

Like this.?

Putin is the Antichrist, proof:

Birthdate: Oct 7, 1952

Written this way:  19521007

Backwards:  70012591

Some tricky arithmetic:
 700
-125
+ 91
---
 666

;)

On 8/18/08, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Roman Melihhov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > http://www.flickr.com/photos/torquado/2758776777/sizes/o/in/[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]/
>  >
>  > http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3276/2758776777_0157378782_o.jpg
>
>
> While what's going on over there is most horrid, we sort of have this
>  agreement on this list that certain topics aren't appropriate for
>  discussion.  Politics is one of them.  What you've presented isn't
>  just "war photography", as your subject line certainly brings politics
>  into it.
>
>  I have no idea who's right or wrong in this war.  I really don't give
>  a rat's ass.  Innocent civilians are dying, and that's wrong.
>
>  However, there are many other forums (fora?) at which you'll find many
>  willing participants in a discussion as to who's right or wrong, and
>  who's attacking whom with what justification.
>
>  This isn't one of them.
>
>  With the greatest of respect (and I mean that - you and your family
>  may be embroiled in this, and if that's the case my heart goes out to
>  you), this ought not be brought up here.  You posted something else
>  very political about this war a week or two ago, and no one said
>  anything, likely because no one wanted to participate in a flame war.
>
>  Please keep such posts off this list.
>
>  thank you,
>  frank
>
>
>
>
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Re: DA 35mm f/2.8 Macro Limited write-up

[Mike Hamilton]

On 18-Aug-08, at 9:40 PM, Tim Bray wrote:

> By Mike Johnson & Carl Weese of The Online Photographer:
> http://photo.net/columns/mjohnston/pentax-35mm-lens/optical- 
> discussion/
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That's quite an endorsement!  I haven't heard much about that lens on  
PDML or the other Pentax forums that I read.

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Re: PESO: What??

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R - ivets...

ann sanfedele wrote:
> Perhaps not -- he didn't say so - but I wanted my answer to be just mine 
> and not
> influenece anyone... doesn't seem too difficult - your answer and mine 
> were very close...
> The 140 refered, I guess, to the little things that held the metal 
> paneling together... that
> I cant remember the name of
> 
> ann
> 
> 
> Doug wrote:
> 
>> were we supposed to answer off-list?
>>
>>
>> On Aug 18, 2008, at 11:57 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>> I wrote to him off list with my answer :)
>>> ann
>>>
>>> Doug wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
 On Aug 18, 2008, at 11:13 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:



  

> What are we looking at here? There are approximately 140 clues.
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7697192&size=lg
>
>
>
>
 guy cooking in front of a mural?
  

>>  
>>
> 
> 
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Re: PESO: What??

[ann sanfedele]

Perhaps not -- he didn't say so - but I wanted my answer to be just mine 
and not
influenece anyone... doesn't seem too difficult - your answer and mine 
were very close...
The 140 refered, I guess, to the little things that held the metal 
paneling together... that
I cant remember the name of

ann


Doug wrote:

>were we supposed to answer off-list?
>
>
>On Aug 18, 2008, at 11:57 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
>
>  
>
>>I wrote to him off list with my answer :)
>>ann
>>
>>Doug wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>On Aug 18, 2008, at 11:13 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
What are we looking at here? There are approximately 140 clues.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7697192&size=lg




>>>guy cooking in front of a mural?
>>>  
>>>
>
>  
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Re: PESO: What??

[Doug]

were we supposed to answer off-list?


On Aug 18, 2008, at 11:57 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:

> I wrote to him off list with my answer :)
> ann
>
> Doug wrote:
>
>> On Aug 18, 2008, at 11:13 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> What are we looking at here? There are approximately 140 clues.
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7697192&size=lg
>>>
>>>
>>
>> guy cooking in front of a mural?

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Re: PESO: What??

[ann sanfedele]

I wrote to him off list with my answer :)
ann

Doug wrote:

>On Aug 18, 2008, at 11:13 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>
>  
>
>>What are we looking at here? There are approximately 140 clues.
>>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7697192&size=lg
>>
>>
>
>guy cooking in front of a mural?
>
>  
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Re: PESO: What??

[ann sanfedele]

Paul
I'm sending you an 'answer" off list  :-)
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Re: PESO: What??

[Doug]

On Aug 18, 2008, at 11:13 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

>
> What are we looking at here? There are approximately 140 clues.
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7697192&size=lg

guy cooking in front of a mural?

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DA 35mm f/2.8 Macro Limited write-up

[Tim Bray]

By Mike Johnson & Carl Weese of The Online Photographer:
http://photo.net/columns/mjohnston/pentax-35mm-lens/optical-discussion/

-Tim

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MX shutter stuck open

[Andy Danzig]

I have a 1979 Pentax MX.  Every few years the shutters locks open.   
The camera will be working great and without warning, in the middle of  
a roll, the shutter will lock open and won't release.  I'm tired of  
sending it off for service and am looking for help to troubleshoot  
this problem myself.
Any advice or information you can provide is greatly appreciated.
AndyJ


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Re: OT Four those heading to GFM this wekend

[David Savage]

2008/8/19 Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> So I guess Doug wins.  How many of us were in the pool to see who would
> be the first to get a phone call from Landis?

Now there is an image I could have done without.

What happens in the GFM hot tub, should stay in the GFM hot tub.

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Re: OT Four those heading to GFM this wekend

[Doug]

On Aug 18, 2008, at 9:02 PM, Scott Loveless wrote:

> Doug wrote:
>> On Aug 17, 2008, at 5:07 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>>> I think I'm the only non-lurker PDML'er who showed up. We can no
>>> longer
>>> taunt Cesar for oversleeping gate-boy duty a couple of years ago
>>> because
>>> Doug Brewer "overslept" the entire weekend: He thought is was *next*
>>> weekend and didn't find out otherwise until Grandfather Mountain PR
>>> Director Landis phoned him up on Friday.
>>
>> in my defense, I'm a moron.
>>
> So I guess Doug wins.  How many of us were in the pool to see who  
> would
> be the first to get a phone call from Landis?

jealous much?

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Re: PESO: Moonlight

[Paul Stenquist]

A nice moonlight shot. Makes me wish I was there. Good work.
Paul
On Aug 18, 2008, at 10:15 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

> A few nights ago there was an almost-full moon and (strangely)  
> there were almost no bugs.  I spent a while down by the lake,  
> shooting.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7696961&size=lg
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> K10D, DA 10-17, ISO 400, f/3.5 @ 30 sec, RAW via LR.
>
> Rick
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PESO: What??

[Paul Stenquist]

What are we looking at here? There are approximately 140 clues.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7697192&size=lg

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Re: PESO: Moonlight

[Bob Sullivan]

Invokes a great mood Rick.  Wish I was there.   Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 9:15 PM, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A few nights ago there was an almost-full moon and (strangely) there were 
> almost no bugs.  I spent a while down by the lake, shooting.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7696961&size=lg
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PESO: Moonlight

[Rick Womer]

A few nights ago there was an almost-full moon and (strangely) there were 
almost no bugs.  I spent a while down by the lake, shooting.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7696961&size=lg

K10D, DA 10-17, ISO 400, f/3.5 @ 30 sec, RAW via LR.

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Re: Shel?

[Jack Davis]

LOL..!

J


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> Subject: Shel?
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> 
> > Has it ever been answered: whatever happened to Shel
> Belinkoff?
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Re: Norway 2008

[Brendan MacRae]

Some fun pictures, Cotty.

That Land Rover Defender is so choice! I wish you
could still buy them here but they stopped importing
them back in 1997. Damn air bags. I see a few up here
in the hills (folks like them for snow driving) and I
get so jealous.

;-(

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> Nearly a hundred pics! Fear not - easy to see thumbs
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Re: Innocent victims of Russian Agression PHOTO BY GIORGI ABDALADZE

[John Celio]

You may want to CC your post to Roman, Frank, since he doesn't always appear 
to pay much attention to what is said on the list when he posts.

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Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: Innocent victims of Russian Agression PHOTO BY GIORGI ABDALADZE


> On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Roman Melihhov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/torquado/2758776777/sizes/o/in/[EMAIL 
>> PROTECTED]/
>>
>> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3276/2758776777_0157378782_o.jpg
>
> While what's going on over there is most horrid, we sort of have this
> agreement on this list that certain topics aren't appropriate for
> discussion.  Politics is one of them.  What you've presented isn't
> just "war photography", as your subject line certainly brings politics
> into it.
>
> I have no idea who's right or wrong in this war.  I really don't give
> a rat's ass.  Innocent civilians are dying, and that's wrong.
>
> However, there are many other forums (fora?) at which you'll find many
> willing participants in a discussion as to who's right or wrong, and
> who's attacking whom with what justification.
>
> This isn't one of them.
>
> With the greatest of respect (and I mean that - you and your family
> may be embroiled in this, and if that's the case my heart goes out to
> you), this ought not be brought up here.  You posted something else
> very political about this war a week or two ago, and no one said
> anything, likely because no one wanted to participate in a flame war.
>
> Please keep such posts off this list.
>
> thank you,
> frank
>
>
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Re: PESO: Old Boathouse

[Rick Womer]

Thanks Frank!

When I was very young my family used to vacation on Lake Chandos in the 
Kawarthas.  I have very pleasant memories of that region, despite the 
mosquitoes!

Rick

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--- On Mon, 8/18/08, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7680612&size=lg
> >

> 
> Beautiful shot, Rick.
> 
> Prefer the colour version by a fair amount.  The boathouse
> seems to
> get lost in the folliage in b&w.
> 
> It reminds me so much of boathouses up here in Canadian
> "cottage
> countries" of which I'm familiar - up in the
> Muskokas and Kawarthas
> (north of Toronto), in the Laurentians and Eastern
> Townships (around
> Montreal).  I guess these things are ubiquitous around
> North America
> (at least the Northeast), but they're lovely, and this
> one is
> well-photographed.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
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Re: Innocent victims of Russian Agression PHOTO BY GIORGI ABDALADZE

[David Savage]

2008/8/19 frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I have no idea who's right or wrong in this war.

When in doubt, blame Canada.

Cheers,

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Re: OT Four those heading to GFM this wekend

[Scott Loveless]

Doug wrote:
> On Aug 17, 2008, at 5:07 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>> I think I'm the only non-lurker PDML'er who showed up. We can no  
>> longer
>> taunt Cesar for oversleeping gate-boy duty a couple of years ago  
>> because
>> Doug Brewer "overslept" the entire weekend: He thought is was *next*
>> weekend and didn't find out otherwise until Grandfather Mountain PR
>> Director Landis phoned him up on Friday.
> 
> in my defense, I'm a moron.
> 
So I guess Doug wins.  How many of us were in the pool to see who would 
be the first to get a phone call from Landis?

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Re: Innocent victims of Russian Agression PHOTO BY GIORGI ABDALADZE

[Rick Womer]

Hear, hear!

Rick

--- On Mon, 8/18/08, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Roman Melihhov
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3276/2758776777_0157378782_o.jpg
> 
> While what's going on over there is most horrid, we
> sort of have this
> agreement on this list that certain topics aren't
> appropriate for
> discussion.  Politics is one of them.  What you've
> presented isn't
> just "war photography", as your subject line
> certainly brings politics
> into it.
> 
> I have no idea who's right or wrong in this war.  I
> really don't give
> a rat's ass.  Innocent civilians are dying, and
> that's wrong.
> 
> However, there are many other forums (fora?) at which
> you'll find many
> willing participants in a discussion as to who's right
> or wrong, and
> who's attacking whom with what justification.
> 
> This isn't one of them.
> 
> With the greatest of respect (and I mean that - you and
> your family
> may be embroiled in this, and if that's the case my
> heart goes out to
> you), this ought not be brought up here.  You posted
> something else
> very political about this war a week or two ago, and no one
> said
> anything, likely because no one wanted to participate in a
> flame war.
> 
> Please keep such posts off this list.
> 
> thank you,
> frank
> 
> 
> 
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Re: From now on I shall call myself "The Great Destroyer"...

[Rick Womer]

We've got a computer guy at work like you...

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--- On Mon, 8/18/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> I seem to have the opposite weird problem.
> Broken machines often "just work" when I go near
> them.
> Even ones reputed to be so poorly designed that they cannot
> possibly  
> function.
> 
> Makes me a somewhat dubious equipment tester.  ;-)
> 
> Godfrey
> 
> On Aug 18, 2008, at 1:41 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:
> 
> > ...
> > (sigh)
> >
> > This kind of thing makes me weary.   Nothing any of
> you can do about
> > it, I know, but I just wanted to vent.  Does anybody
> else here ever
> > feel like they're the only one who manages to have
> things break on
> > them all the time?
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Re: From now on I shall call myself "The Great Destroyer"...

[Rick Womer]

Charles,

You remember a few years ago when a "V chip" to filter out violence and sex in 
video and web content was being touted?

Well, it never came to pass.  What =did= come to pass, without the press taking 
any notice, is the "S chip".

The S chip has the User Stress Detector (USD).  When the USD detects user 
stress (a wedding shoot, for example) it uses top-secret algorithms to increase 
the chances of a device failure.  In effect, it applies Gumperson's Corollary 
to Murphy's Law, to wit, "The probability of a given event is inversely 
proportional to its desirability".

Pentax is a sophisticated, though conservative, company; so I am sure that 
there is S chip technology in the 540 flash.

The Smegma flash, being much less sophisticated, just has a high rate of random 
failures, independent of user stress.  I can testify to this.

Rick 

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--- On Mon, 8/18/08, Charles Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Charles Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: From now on I shall call myself "The Great Destroyer"...
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 4:41 PM
> I've had no end of weird problems.
> 
> Two months ago, my AF540FGZ decided that it didn't want
> to work in P- 
> TTL mode.  The preflash (if there is any at all) is so weak
> that the  
> K10D sees the room as DARK DARK DARK and thus cranks the
> flash output  
> up to about 100%.  Sadness.   Still works great in the
> "A" mode,  
> though, so I haven't sent it in yet.
> 
> A couple days ago I figured out that the problems I've
> been having  
> with the 16-50 not getting a focus lock at infinity when at
> 16mm is  
> directly related to the Anti-Shake - if I turn of
> Anti-Shake it locks  
> focus at infinity every time.  Any other distance (or zoom
> setting)  
> and it's a non-problem.  I don't know yet if this
> is something related  
> to the lens, the camera, or a magic combination.  This
> problem,  
> though, seems to have shown up since having the 16-50
> serviced for a  
> broken screw somewhere in the barrel which was causing the
> lens to be  
> wobbly.  Oy Vey!
> 
> Lastly, I'm shooting an event a few nights ago and I
> decide to use the  
> EF 500 DG Super, so I can have my P-TTL goodness.  Halfway
> through, I  
> decided I want to use trailing-curtain flash.  With the 540
> you can  
> set all of this from the camera body, but the Sigma
> won't do it unless  
> you select that mode directly from the back of the flash. 
> However...  
> NONE of the buttons on the rear of the flash work anymore,
> so it's  
> stuck in the default P-TTL mode and that's that.  I
> wonder if sending  
> it in to get the "re-chip" required for K10D
> wireless compatibility  
> would magically fix this problem too?
> 
> (sigh)
> 
> This kind of thing makes me weary.   Nothing any of you can
> do about  
> it, I know, but I just wanted to vent.  Does anybody else
> here ever  
> feel like they're the only one who manages to have
> things break on  
> them all the time?
> 
>   -Charles
> 
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Re: From now on I shall call myself "The Great Destroyer"...

[David Savage]

2008/8/19 Joseph McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> On Aug 18, 2008, at 13:52 , Charles Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> (sigh)
>>
>> This kind of thing makes me weary.   Nothing any of you can do about
>> it, I know, but I just wanted to vent.  Does anybody else here ever
>> feel like they're the only one who manages to have things break on
>> them all the time?
>>
>> -Charles
>
>
> Computers, Audio, Photography - all seem to be against me at one time
> or another.
>
> You are not alone Charles.

Yes he is.

My recent photographic equipment experiences have all be shits & giggles.

:-D

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Re: Shel?

[Mike Hamilton]

On 18-Aug-08, at 6:00 PM, William Robb wrote:
>
>> Has it ever been answered: whatever happened to Shel Belinkoff?
>>
>> May be I missed it?
>>
>
> If you find him, tell him I am still waiting patiently.

Ah.  I was waiting for that... ;-)

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Re: From now on I shall call myself "The Great Destroyer"...

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I seem to have the opposite weird problem.
Broken machines often "just work" when I go near them.
Even ones reputed to be so poorly designed that they cannot possibly  
function.

Makes me a somewhat dubious equipment tester.  ;-)

Godfrey

On Aug 18, 2008, at 1:41 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:

> ...
> (sigh)
>
> This kind of thing makes me weary.   Nothing any of you can do about
> it, I know, but I just wanted to vent.  Does anybody else here ever
> feel like they're the only one who manages to have things break on
> them all the time?


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Re: Shel?

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "keith_w" 
Subject: Shel?


> Has it ever been answered: whatever happened to Shel Belinkoff?
> 
> May be I missed it?
> 

If you find him, tell him I am still waiting patiently.

William Robb

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Re: OT: Strange bug

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Gonz" 
Subject: Re: OT: Strange bug


> Yeah well click on the japanese bicycle commuter to see what you get

Have I ever mentioned how infatuated I am with Japanese women?

William Robb

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Re: Norway 2008

[Tim Øsleby]

I thought I was making you a compliment. Hm.
Klingons are hard to understand.

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2008/8/18 Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On 18/8/08, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>Forgot one thing about the gallery. It's a shame you don't shot with a
>>proper camera.
>
> Fear not you will die an honourable death, I will make it quick and painless.
>
> (traditional Klingon)
>
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>
> Cheers,
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Re: OT - Olympic Panorama

[John Francis]

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 09:11:07PM +0100, Bob W wrote:
> > > > One for the panorama junkies:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > 
> > > And for Canon and Nikon junkies.
> > 
> > Seriously.
> > 
> > I wonder if ANY photographer over there is using something other
> than
> > Canon or Nikon.
> > 
> > John 
> 
> Just before the men's 100m final the other day the TV coverage pulled
> away to show the number of photographers waiting at the other end of
> the track. It was an awesome sight - far more than in that panorama. 
> 
> Bob

I'm sure the number of accredited photographers is well into four figures.

Just this morning I noticed that the front page photograph on my local
paper (the San Jose Mercury News) - a photograph taken of the athletes
just after crossing the finishing line of the women's 100m sprint - was
taken by a Mercury News photographer, not by someone from a press agency.


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Re: OT - Olympic Panorama

[John Francis]

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 12:21:59PM -0700, John Celio wrote:
> > > One for the panorama junkies:
> > >
> > > 
> 
> > And for Canon and Nikon junkies.
> 
> Seriously.
> 
> I wonder if ANY photographer over there is using something other than
> Canon or Nikon.
> 
> John 

I doubt it.  The Olympics is a big venue, so photo passes are likely
to be restricted to full-time sports photojournalists.  I doubt if more
than a handful of those guys shoot anything other than Nikon or Canon.
I know that if my livelihood depended on it I wouldn't be using Pentax.


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Re: OT Another PC question

[Doug Franklin]

David J Brooks wrote:

> Just one more question before i turn it off. If i cannot boot up at
> all, can i still get some one to install a new HD and load up my XP
> etc, then have the new C drive read the old drive, say as D drive or
> what ever, or is it fails am i toast.

First, don't turn it off until you have the new drive beside it and 
you're ready to do the install.  Second, don't turn it off until you've 
burned yourself a copy of a "Boot from CD" version of Linux like 
Knoppix.  If worse comes to worst, that bootable CD might let you 
recover (some of) your data even if the drive won't boot.  If you're 
lucky, the failure is under some software rather than your data files. 
You'd just boot the Knoppix (or whatever) CD and use its tools to copy 
stuff from the hard drive partition(s) to some other location, like a 
thumb drive or external hard drive or something.

> A few programs on the existing C that i might have trouble reloading, IYKWIM

That's always a risk, and there's usually not anything you can do at 
this stage of the game.  You can help avoid this by maintaining good 
archives (physical) of the CDs, download files, and installation keys 
for all of your software.

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Re: From now on I shall call myself "The Great Destroyer"...

[Charles Robinson]

On Aug 18, 2008, at 16:20, Joseph McAllister wrote:
>
> Computers, Audio, Photography - all seem to be against me at one time
> or another.
>
> You are not alone Charles.
>

Thanks Joseph, that is a comfort to hear!

  -Charles

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Re: OT - Olympic Panorama

[Adam Maas]

Maybe 1 or 2 A700's or E-3's.

-Adam

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 3:21 PM, John Celio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > One for the panorama junkies:
>> >
>> > 
>
>> And for Canon and Nikon junkies.
>
> Seriously.
>
> I wonder if ANY photographer over there is using something other than
> Canon or Nikon.
>
> John
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RE: OT - Olympic Panorama

[Bob W]

Official meaning 'representing the IOC' I assume. That sounds like a
very low number. Even in 1936 Leni Riefenstahl had hundreds of
photographers and cameramen beavering away. And that was just at
her... 

There must be thousands of accredited photographers. Every press
organisation in the world must have dozens of photographers - probably
hundreds, considering the number of events taking place. There are
probably as many photographers as there are athletes.

Bob 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Ken Waller
> Sent: 18 August 2008 23:36
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> Subject: Re: OT - Olympic Panorama
> 
> I heard on the radio the other day there were 110 "official" 
> photographers @ 
> the Olympics.
> 
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: OT - Olympic Panorama
> 
> 
> >> > > One for the panorama junkies:
> >> > >
> >> > > 
> >>
> >> > And for Canon and Nikon junkies.
> >>
> >> Seriously.
> >>
> >> I wonder if ANY photographer over there is using something other
> > than
> >> Canon or Nikon.
> >>
> >> John
> >
> > Just before the men's 100m final the other day the TV 
> coverage pulled
> > away to show the number of photographers waiting at the other end
of
> > the track. It was an awesome sight - far more than in that
panorama.
> >
> > Bob
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Re: OT - Olympic Panorama

[Ken Waller]

I heard on the radio the other day there were 110 "official" photographers @ 
the Olympics.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
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Subject: RE: OT - Olympic Panorama


>> > > One for the panorama junkies:
>> > >
>> > > 
>>
>> > And for Canon and Nikon junkies.
>>
>> Seriously.
>>
>> I wonder if ANY photographer over there is using something other
> than
>> Canon or Nikon.
>>
>> John
>
> Just before the men's 100m final the other day the TV coverage pulled
> away to show the number of photographers waiting at the other end of
> the track. It was an awesome sight - far more than in that panorama.
>
> Bob


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RE: Photography as a weapon (was Re: When is a little Photoshopperytoo much Photoshoppery?)

[Bob W]

> 
> One of the Life magazine photo books I read once began with an 
> interesting thought experiment: Overlook the technical detail that 
> movies consist of a series of still images and imagine if still 
> photography had been invented *after* motion picture 
> photography. Think 
> about how amazed people would have been about the ability to freeze
a 
> moment in time.
> 

I'm not sure I understand why they bring motion pictures into it.
People _were_ amazed at the ability to freeze a moment in time. 

What has often surprised me, though, is that people seem to have been
more amazed at the camera's ability to resolve detail. I suppose this
is because people were used to paintings and so on (still images), but
no painting had achieved the level of detail of a photograph. But then
having said that I am often amazed by the realism (not necessarily
detail) achieved in some oil paintings, Rembrandt being a good
example.

Bob


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Re: GESO - Norway 2008 - the Pentax version

[Jens]

Very nice indeed, Jostien.
You had a great time, with great shots.
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On Aug 17, 2008 23:28 "AlunFoto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Cotty's done the Canon version. :-)
> http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/thumbnails.php?album=9
> 
> Pics sized to within 1024x768 px.
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Re: Norway 2008

[Jens]

Very well done, Cotty.
Lots of fun watching.
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On Aug 17, 2008 21:30 "Adam Maas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nice stuff, unfortunately the Auto-resizing that MobileMe does to make
> the images fit the screen doesn't play well with high-res screens like
> my 21" 1856x1394 display.
> 
> -Adam
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Re: Photography as a weapon (was Re: When is a little Photoshoppery too much Photoshoppery?)

[Mark Roberts]

frank theriault wrote:

> Photography remains the ~only~ medium that can freeze time - that can
> capture a moment;  it's so "realistic" that even if altered, our brain
> (on an emotional level) has no choice to react.  No wonder our
> reactions to some images are so visceral.

One of the Life magazine photo books I read once began with an 
interesting thought experiment: Overlook the technical detail that 
movies consist of a series of still images and imagine if still 
photography had been invented *after* motion picture photography. Think 
about how amazed people would have been about the ability to freeze a 
moment in time.

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Re: PESO - Summertime Treat

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On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Ken Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Been gone for a week shooting UP north, so this will seem out of sequence -
>
> Looks good to me !
>
> So how did you get the exposure you wound up with (in camera)?

I just shot on Programme, but I cropped out a fair bit of that blown
out background, so her face was actually quite underexposed on the
full-frame in-camera image.

Thanks for commenting (and thanks to everyone else who commented as well).

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Re: Apollo archive

[frank theriault]

On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Derby Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Boring featureless skies. Expanses of dull grey foreground. Lens flare.
> Ignoring rule of thirds. Plenty of inadvertent shutter releases. But
> darn I love this stuff. Click on "Full Hasselblad Magazines"
> http://www.apolloarchive.com/apollo_gallery.html
>
> Coincidentally, I also saw this page for the first time today
> http://www.hasselblad.com/about-hasselblad/hasselblad-in-space/space-cameras.aspx
>
> Only"We then apply the knowledge and expertise we gain in space and
> bring it back to earth, further improving the Hasselblad line." Gag
>

All taken at a studio in New Mexico somewhere, right?

;-)

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Re: OT Another PC question

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Dave:

Never trust a flakey/failing drive. Get any important data OFF that  
drive while it's running and working. You never know if it will ever  
be again... Data recovery is very expensive and only marginally  
successful in most cases.

G

On Aug 18, 2008, at 2:24 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

> Thanks all that replied.
>
> I have just finished getting all my web pages together from the show
> this weekend, and loaded up on the site. I have made sure all my
> photos, downloaded drivers and some important documents are on the
> externals.
>
> I;ll try Doug's idea first.
>
> Just one more question before i turn it off. If i cannot boot up at
> all, can i still get some one to install a new HD and load up my XP
> etc, then have the new C drive read the old drive, say as D drive or
> what ever, or is it fails am i toast.
>
> A few programs on the existing C that i might have trouble  
> reloading, IYKWIM


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Re: Photography as a weapon (was Re: When is a little Photoshoppery too much Photoshoppery?)

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Derby Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> In somewhat more words, Errol Morris (remember the Roger Fenton Crimean
> War cannonball analysis) discusses this subject with a digital
> photography expert
>
> http://morris.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/11/photography-as-a-weapon/index.html
>

I'm still working through this most interesting article, but early on
he certainly sums up why photography is such an incredibly powerful
medium:

"The Vietnam War, the war abroad and the war at home, has been reduced
to a few iconic images — the Napalm girl, the girl at Kent State. What
seems to emerge from major events and eras are one or two images that
effectively embody the emotion and rage, the happiness and anger. The
whole thing somehow is enfolded in there. The brain is just very good
at processing visual imageries and bringing in memories associated
with images."

Photography remains the ~only~ medium that can freeze time - that can
capture a moment;  it's so "realistic" that even if altered, our brain
(on an emotional level) has no choice to react.  No wonder our
reactions to some images are so visceral.

Now back to the article.  Thanks for posting it, BTW.

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Re: Shel?

[keith_w]

P. J. Alling wrote:
> He was having some medical problems and dropped of the list.  I asked 
> that question a few months ago and Godfrey forwarded my question to him, 
> and he got back to me.  I'll see if I can find his e-mail address, (my 
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> keith_w wrote:
>> Has it ever been answered: whatever happened to Shel Belinkoff?
>>
>> May be I missed it?
>>
>> keith whaley


I still have his earthlink.net address. I'll try that.

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Re: Innocent victims of Russian Agression PHOTO BY GIORGI ABDALADZE

[P. J. Alling]

Cotty, you know you're an evil man, don't you...
O:-)


Cotty wrote:
> On 18/8/08, Roman Melihhov, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>   
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/torquado/2758776777/sizes/o/in/[EMAIL 
>> PROTECTED]/
>>
>> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3276/2758776777_0157378782_o.jpg
>> 
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> Nice.
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Photography as a weapon (was Re: When is a little Photoshoppery too much Photoshoppery?)

[Derby Chang]

Brian Walters wrote:
> Frank,
>
> I think you've summed up most of the responses in those 65 posts pretty
> well!
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>   
>

In somewhat more words, Errol Morris (remember the Roger Fenton Crimean 
War cannonball analysis) discusses this subject with a digital 
photography expert

http://morris.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/11/photography-as-a-weapon/index.html

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Re: OT Another PC question

[David J Brooks]

Thanks all that replied.

I have just finished getting all my web pages together from the show
this weekend, and loaded up on the site. I have made sure all my
photos, downloaded drivers and some important documents are on the
externals.

I;ll try Doug's idea first.

Just one more question before i turn it off. If i cannot boot up at
all, can i still get some one to install a new HD and load up my XP
etc, then have the new C drive read the old drive, say as D drive or
what ever, or is it fails am i toast.

A few programs on the existing C that i might have trouble reloading, IYKWIM

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Re: From now on I shall call myself "The Great Destroyer"...

[Joseph McAllister]

On Aug 18, 2008, at 13:52 , Charles Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> (sigh)
>
> This kind of thing makes me weary.   Nothing any of you can do about  
> it, I know, but I just wanted to vent.  Does anybody else here ever  
> feel like they're the only one who manages to have things break on  
> them all the time?
>
> -Charles


Computers, Audio, Photography - all seem to be against me at one time  
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You are not alone Charles.

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Re: PESO 2008 - something different - GDG

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On Aug 18, 2008, at 13:52 , "frank theriault"  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> wrote:
>> Something different from other photos I've been posting lately ...
>>
>>  http://homepage.mac.com/godders/smcc-haircut.jpg
>>  Haircut - San Jose 2008
>>  Panasonic L1 + Olympus ZD 25mm f/2.8
>>  ISO 100 @ f/2.8 @ 1/250 (five exposures)
>>
>> Comments and critique always appreciated.
>>
>
> Very cool concept, well-executed!
>
> cheers,
> frank


Are those photos cropped?  :-)

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Re: OT: Strange bug

[Cotty]

On 18/8/08, Gonz, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Yeah well click on the japanese bicycle commuter to see what you get

LOL!

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Re: Innocent victims of Russian Agression PHOTO BY GIORGI ABDALADZE

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On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Roman Melihhov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/torquado/2758776777/sizes/o/in/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
>
> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3276/2758776777_0157378782_o.jpg

While what's going on over there is most horrid, we sort of have this
agreement on this list that certain topics aren't appropriate for
discussion.  Politics is one of them.  What you've presented isn't
just "war photography", as your subject line certainly brings politics
into it.

I have no idea who's right or wrong in this war.  I really don't give
a rat's ass.  Innocent civilians are dying, and that's wrong.

However, there are many other forums (fora?) at which you'll find many
willing participants in a discussion as to who's right or wrong, and
who's attacking whom with what justification.

This isn't one of them.

With the greatest of respect (and I mean that - you and your family
may be embroiled in this, and if that's the case my heart goes out to
you), this ought not be brought up here.  You posted something else
very political about this war a week or two ago, and no one said
anything, likely because no one wanted to participate in a flame war.

Please keep such posts off this list.

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Re: PESO - The Glance

[P. J. Alling]

The background is still pretty blown out.  I think a replacement sky, 
thought a bit of trickery would have been in order.

frank theriault wrote:
> Had a bear of a time trying to get this one to look right - shot in
> the shadows with a really harshly lit background.  Still not entirely
> satisfied.  I would also prefer that there not be a sign growing out
> of her head, but this ain't art, baby, this is reality (at least this
> photographer purports it to be such).
>
> ;-)
>
> Still, I think it has something to say (I'm just not sure what):
>
> http://tinyurl.com/57alxb
>
> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SKlpsAl17KI/C4I/-iaHSa_a2GA/s1600-h/aug_18_08+006.jpg
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> Comments welcome.
>
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Re: PESO - Something Here's Not Right!

[P. J. Alling]

One of your fellow creatures was suffering from want of ice cream, on of 
the most important foods.  You should be ashamed...
(Nice conversion and very amusing actually).

frank theriault wrote:
> He seemed to be looking to me for help in rectifying what was
> obviously (to him) an inequitable situation, but alas, how could I
> maintain my objectivity if I entered the fray?  Sadly, I had to
> decline his entreaties...
> .
> http://tinyurl.com/5st36f
>
> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SKlpGvjSvrI/C3w/vGPktlLKpnw/s1600-h/aug_18_08+003.jpg
>
> Comments are always welcome.
>
> cheers,
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Re: Norway 2008

[Cotty]

On 18/8/08, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Forgot one thing about the gallery. It's a shame you don't shot with a
>proper camera.

Fear not you will die an honourable death, I will make it quick and painless.

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Re: OT: Strange bug

[P. J. Alling]

The first time I tried, the server timed out.  I think you initiate a 
manual DOS attack...

Gonz wrote:
> Yeah well click on the japanese bicycle commuter to see what you get
>
>
> On 8/17/08, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Have a look at this webpage:
>>
>>  http://www.nordicgroup.us/s78/flashlights.html
>>
>>  Scroll down to the section headed 'Commercial Flashlight Holders' and
>>  take a look at the frame on the right hand side. There's a teensy
>>  little flea wandering around inside it.
>>
>>  How strange.
>>
>>  It's an animated gif. Presumably the programmer who wrote the page was
>>  a bit bored at the time.
>>
>>  Bob
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Re: Norway 2008

[Cotty]

On 18/8/08, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I had a net chat with Jossy the evening after you left, and it was
>obvious that he enjoyed the meeting. Unfortunately I couldn't make it.
>Perhaps next time.

LOL. Jossy?!??!

To close to Pussy for my comfort

Indeed - like maybe next year oh I don't know where.  8-D

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Re: Innocent victims of Russian Agression PHOTO BY GIORGI ABDALADZE

[Cotty]

On 18/8/08, Roman Melihhov, discombobulated, unleashed:

>http://www.flickr.com/photos/torquado/2758776777/sizes/o/in/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
>
>http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3276/2758776777_0157378782_o.jpg

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Re: Shel?

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On Aug 18, 2008, at 15:48, P. J. Alling wrote:

> He was having some medical problems and dropped of the list.  I asked
> that question a few months ago and Godfrey forwarded my question to  
> him,
> and he got back to me.  I'll see if I can find his e-mail address, (my
> copy of Firefox corrupted my address book after a power failure a  
> while
> back and I'll have to see if I can reconstruct it to his), if you want
> to contact him.  I'm sure he'd love to hear from a list member.
>

My archives show: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: PESO - The Glance

[Bob Sullivan]

Frank,
I wish you had more light in the detail on the 2nd man's face.
I think it's too hard to keep detail here and in the wall in the distance.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 9:52 AM, frank theriault
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Had a bear of a time trying to get this one to look right - shot in
> the shadows with a really harshly lit background.  Still not entirely
> satisfied.  I would also prefer that there not be a sign growing out
> of her head, but this ain't art, baby, this is reality (at least this
> photographer purports it to be such).
>
> ;-)
>
> Still, I think it has something to say (I'm just not sure what):
>
> http://tinyurl.com/57alxb
>
> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SKlpsAl17KI/C4I/-iaHSa_a2GA/s1600-h/aug_18_08+006.jpg
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Re: PESO - The Glance

[Bob Sullivan]

Frank,
I wish you had more light in the detail on the 2nd man's face.
I think it's too hard to keep detail here and in the wall in the distance.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 9:52 AM, frank theriault
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Had a bear of a time trying to get this one to look right - shot in
> the shadows with a really harshly lit background.  Still not entirely
> satisfied.  I would also prefer that there not be a sign growing out
> of her head, but this ain't art, baby, this is reality (at least this
> photographer purports it to be such).
>
> ;-)
>
> Still, I think it has something to say (I'm just not sure what):
>
> http://tinyurl.com/57alxb
>
> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SKlpsAl17KI/C4I/-iaHSa_a2GA/s1600-h/aug_18_08+006.jpg
>
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RE: OT: Strange bug

[Bob W]

!!! The programmer was very bored!

Bob 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Gonz
> Sent: 18 August 2008 21:47
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> Subject: Re: OT: Strange bug
> 
> Yeah well click on the japanese bicycle commuter to see what 
> you get
> 
> 
> On 8/17/08, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Have a look at this webpage:
> >
> >  http://www.nordicgroup.us/s78/flashlights.html
> >
> >  Scroll down to the section headed 'Commercial Flashlight 
> Holders' and
> >  take a look at the frame on the right hand side. There's a teensy
> >  little flea wandering around inside it.
> >
> >  How strange.
> >
> >  It's an animated gif. Presumably the programmer who wrote 
> the page was
> >  a bit bored at the time.
> >
> >  Bob
> >
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Re: Shel?

[P. J. Alling]

He was having some medical problems and dropped of the list.  I asked 
that question a few months ago and Godfrey forwarded my question to him, 
and he got back to me.  I'll see if I can find his e-mail address, (my 
copy of Firefox corrupted my address book after a power failure a while 
back and I'll have to see if I can reconstruct it to his), if you want 
to contact him.  I'm sure he'd love to hear from a list member.

keith_w wrote:
> Has it ever been answered: whatever happened to Shel Belinkoff?
>
> May be I missed it?
>
> keith whaley
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Re: OT: Strange bug

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeah well click on the japanese bicycle commuter to see what you get

Dear me!

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Innocent victims of Russian Agression PHOTO BY GIORGI ABDALADZE

[Roman Melihhov]

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Re: When is a little Photoshoppery too much Photoshoppery?

[P. J. Alling]

Gonz wrote:
> On 8/16/08, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>>> Bob, do i dare ask the reason(s) behind your dislike of tolkien?
>>>   
>> I've never read anything by him, or seen any of the movies, and I
>>  never will. This is pure prejudice.
>>
>>  Whimsical twee kitsch. Stupid made-up names. Complete absence of
>>  irony. Overblown self-regarding pomposity  (describing his scribblings
>>  as 'legendarium', for feck's sake!). Guilt by association with so many
>>  of the dickheads who used to rave about the stuff and take it
>>  seriously - generally the sort of prat who danced along with Ian
>>  Anderson's crappy flute solos like pissed-up pixies with chillies on
>>  their 'roids.
>>
>>
>> 
>
> What are "chillies"?  Are they chilis?
>   
I thought he was referring to cubes, (ice that is).
>   
>>  Bob
>>
>>
>>  > -Original Message-
>>  > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>  > Behalf Of S J
>>  > Sent: 16 August 2008 10:38
>>  > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>  > Subject: Re: When is a little Photoshoppery too much Photoshoppery?
>>  >
>>
>> 
>>> On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>   
>>  >
>>  > > *although personally I would imprison all writers of
>>  > fantasy & science
>>  > > fiction, and if he were still alive I would have Tolkien cut into
>>  > > small pieces and fed to dwarves.
>>  >
>>
>>  when
>>  > i first read him (in the mid 80s, much much before the movies) it
>>  was
>>  > kind of refreshing. but then it didn't take me long understand that
>>  > (to me) he was more or less a reactionary, right-of-centre (if not
>>  > exactly right wing) writerand being that kind of astonishing
>>  that
>>  > he became an icon of the sixties (not that i was there in the
>>  sixties,
>>  > my ideas of the 60s are purely derived ones...)
>>  >
>>  > just curious on a lazy weekend... :-))
>>  >
>>  > regards, subash
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Re: OT: Strange bug

[Gonz]

Yeah well click on the japanese bicycle commuter to see what you get


On 8/17/08, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Have a look at this webpage:
>
>  http://www.nordicgroup.us/s78/flashlights.html
>
>  Scroll down to the section headed 'Commercial Flashlight Holders' and
>  take a look at the frame on the right hand side. There's a teensy
>  little flea wandering around inside it.
>
>  How strange.
>
>  It's an animated gif. Presumably the programmer who wrote the page was
>  a bit bored at the time.
>
>  Bob
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From now on I shall call myself "The Great Destroyer"...

[Charles Robinson]

I've had no end of weird problems.

Two months ago, my AF540FGZ decided that it didn't want to work in P- 
TTL mode.  The preflash (if there is any at all) is so weak that the  
K10D sees the room as DARK DARK DARK and thus cranks the flash output  
up to about 100%.  Sadness.   Still works great in the "A" mode,  
though, so I haven't sent it in yet.

A couple days ago I figured out that the problems I've been having  
with the 16-50 not getting a focus lock at infinity when at 16mm is  
directly related to the Anti-Shake - if I turn of Anti-Shake it locks  
focus at infinity every time.  Any other distance (or zoom setting)  
and it's a non-problem.  I don't know yet if this is something related  
to the lens, the camera, or a magic combination.  This problem,  
though, seems to have shown up since having the 16-50 serviced for a  
broken screw somewhere in the barrel which was causing the lens to be  
wobbly.  Oy Vey!

Lastly, I'm shooting an event a few nights ago and I decide to use the  
EF 500 DG Super, so I can have my P-TTL goodness.  Halfway through, I  
decided I want to use trailing-curtain flash.  With the 540 you can  
set all of this from the camera body, but the Sigma won't do it unless  
you select that mode directly from the back of the flash.  However...  
NONE of the buttons on the rear of the flash work anymore, so it's  
stuck in the default P-TTL mode and that's that.  I wonder if sending  
it in to get the "re-chip" required for K10D wireless compatibility  
would magically fix this problem too?

(sigh)

This kind of thing makes me weary.   Nothing any of you can do about  
it, I know, but I just wanted to vent.  Does anybody else here ever  
feel like they're the only one who manages to have things break on  
them all the time?

  -Charles

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Re: Two grand for a manual Pentax!

[P. J. Alling]

I think I paid $35.00 for a Honeywell H2 in similar condition a couple 
of years ago, to get a SMC Tak lens that came with it.

Brian Walters wrote:
> I know this is a rare variant of the H2 but bloody hell!
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com.au/The-Rarest-Pentax-of-All-The-PENTA-ASAHIFLEX_W0QQitemZ370075970096QQihZ024QQcategoryZ98923QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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> http://tinyurl.com/5bwddc
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>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
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RE: OT - Olympic Panorama

[Bob W]

> > > One for the panorama junkies:
> > >
> > > 
> 
> > And for Canon and Nikon junkies.
> 
> Seriously.
> 
> I wonder if ANY photographer over there is using something other
than
> Canon or Nikon.
> 
> John 

Just before the men's 100m final the other day the TV coverage pulled
away to show the number of photographers waiting at the other end of
the track. It was an awesome sight - far more than in that panorama. 

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Re: GESO (Galia) Belgium 2008

[Joseph McAllister]

On Aug 18, 2008, at 11:25 , Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Here is a small gallery of pictures taken by Galia during our visit  
> to Belgium

> http://boris.isra-shop.com/galia_belgium_2008/index.html


regards the last frame in this series:

> August 05, 2008 - @ 6.3 mm - 1/250 sec at f / 3.3


I don't know where you got it, but I want one of those lenses for my  
K20D!

Joseph McAllister
Pentaxian

PS - Wait... I think I already have one on my Z10, and it's not that  
wide an angle.  :-)

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Re: PESO 2008 - something different - GDG

[frank theriault]

On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Something different from other photos I've been posting lately ...
>
>   http://homepage.mac.com/godders/smcc-haircut.jpg
>   Haircut - San Jose 2008
>   Panasonic L1 + Olympus ZD 25mm f/2.8
>   ISO 100 @ f/2.8 @ 1/250 (five exposures)
>
> Comments and critique always appreciated.
>

Very cool concept, well-executed!

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Re: OT Another PC question

[Alistair Lax]

Obviously the most important thing is to save your data, and you shouldn't 
do anything to compromise that. However you may not have to reload XP. 
Generally it's not possible to copy the drive partition where the operating 
system is, but there is a free program that can do this called xxclone (at 
www.xxclone.com/). If you can save your data first, you could put a new 
drive in your PC (preferably already partitioned) and run xxclone - beware 
it will wipe any data on the partition you clone into. I used this last year 
when I had a "clicking drive". Cloning takes quite a long time (~20-30 mins 
I recall), so it was nerveracking to see if the drive would last long 
enough, but it worked. The clone was slightly smaller than the original, but 
everything seemed to work fine, and it still does one year on.

As the cloning process takes longer than copying the data, I guess the drive 
is more likely to fail, so I repeat that you shouldn't attempt it until your 
data is safe. However if you can get it to work you are saved the major 
hassle and time of having to reload everything.

good luck

Alistair (the lurker)


On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Doug Franklin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> David J Brooks wrote:
>
>> Also something seems to click a few times at start up. Now it started.
>>
>> Is this my HD acting up.
>
> Something clicking at startup is usually the hard drive, though it could
> also be the CD/DVD drive or the floppy drive (if you have one).  To
> confirm the problem, if you can get Windows XP to boot and run, click on
> "Start", then "Run" and type "eventvwr" into the "Open" edit box.  When
> the Event Viewer window appears, click on "System" in the left hand
> pane, then click on the "Source" column in the right hand pane to sort
> by source.  Look for all warnings and errors from the "disk" source to
> see any problems that Windows XP has been "reporting" for your disks.
>
> In terms of getting going again, the best bet would probably be to
> remove the offending drive and install a replacement, get XP installed
> and running on that new drive, then install the old drive as "D:" (or
> whatever) and copy whatever you can/want from the old drive to the new
> one before the old one gives up the ghost forever.
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RE: OT - Olympic Panorama

[John Celio]

> > One for the panorama junkies:
> >
> > 

> And for Canon and Nikon junkies.

Seriously.

I wonder if ANY photographer over there is using something other than
Canon or Nikon.

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Re: Shel?

[keith_w]

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> Hi Keith,
> 
> After the last query, I sent him a note and he responded within a  
> couple of hours.
> 
> His health has been a big issue of late, but recent treatment has him  
> feeling better and being a bit more able. His vision is much improved  
> now too, and he is looking forward to being able to do some  
> photography again soon.
> 
> That's when I know he's at least holding his own. :-)

Great news!

I'll drop him a line...

Thanks a lot!

keith

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Re: Any one else doing less personal photography this summer

[frank theriault]

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 6:57 AM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just a lets throw this question out there.
>
> I used to do quite a bit of driving, looking for photo ops regarding
> rural landscapes etc., and
> i thought having 9 weeks off for school break would give me more
> opportunities, but, i'm finding
> i have done less this summer than in the past. My shows do keep me
> busy, but i still have some time to my self during the regular work
> week.
>
> Wonder if  subconcesly i reguired a break, or i really do care about
> high fuel prices.
>
> Any one else like this
>
> Dave
>

Actually, I think I'm doing more shooting than ever this summer.  My
girlfriend has been bitten by the photography bug, and we both carry
our cameras wherever we go.  In fact, she's more-than-outgrown her
little Oly P&S, and one day we'll likely be looking for a Pentax dslr
body so we can swap lenses.  But I digress.

The other factor is that I've now been shooting digital since about
April of '07.  Last summer I was shooting a fair bit, but still hadn't
gotten into the swing of things.  This summer I'm shooting much more.
I've gotta say, I'd become somewhat moribund and complacent with film,
and digital really rejuvenated my interest in taking photos (for
better or worse).

;-)

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Re: PESO - The Glance

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 2:27 PM, ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I don't know who said
>
> "Still, I think it has something to say (I'm just not sure what):"
>
>  but it wasnt me - as it appears to  be , below

I was the one who said it has something to say (but I don't know what).

And I stand by that comment!

;-)

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Re: Shel?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Hi Keith,

After the last query, I sent him a note and he responded within a  
couple of hours.

His health has been a big issue of late, but recent treatment has him  
feeling better and being a bit more able. His vision is much improved  
now too, and he is looking forward to being able to do some  
photography again soon.

That's when I know he's at least holding his own. :-)

I sent him regards from those on the list who asked for him.

Godfrey


On Aug 18, 2008, at 10:39 AM, keith_w wrote:

> Has it ever been answered: whatever happened to Shel Belinkoff?
>
> May be I missed it?


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Re: GESO (Galia) Belgium 2008

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Galia and I together brought more than 2,000 images from the trip we
> just had. The task of sorting and processing is going to take some time
> to complete.
>
> Here is a small gallery of pictures taken by Galia during our visit to
> Belgium. Special thanks goes to Thibouille who photo-dueled with Galia a
> lot ;-).
>
> No processing was applied except very minor tonal adjustment. All these
> are full frames as they were shot.
>
> Any comments, especially to Galia's father :-), will be greatly appreciated.
>
> http://boris.isra-shop.com/galia_belgium_2008/index.html
>

These are wonderful shots, Galia!!  You've got the concepts of tilt
and blur down pat (I seriously mean that as a compliment - your father
will tell you that many of my shots are tilted and blurred).  ;-)

Great work.  You're a natural photographer!

cheers,
frank

ps:  ask your father who the people in these photos are - they are
obviously Pentaxians like yourself.

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Re: PESO - The Glance

[ann sanfedele]

Charles --
I said the first line... about the guy looking at the camera

I don't know who said

"Still, I think it has something to say (I'm just not sure what):"

  but it wasnt me - as it appears to  be , below  

ann :)


Charles Robinson wrote:

>On Aug 18, 2008, at 10:50, ann sanfedele wrote:
>
>  
>
>>hmmm - He is looking at you not her   with that "why are you  
>>taking
>>my picture?" expression..
>>
>>
>
>I don't get that at all - he's looking at the lady to the left (and  
>she at him)
>  
>
>>>Still, I think it has something to say (I'm just not sure what):
>>>
>>>http://tinyurl.com/57alxb
>>>
>>>http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SKlpsAl17KI/C4I/-iaHSa_a2GA/s1600-h/aug_18_08+006.jpg
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>
>I'm not sure what it says either...!
>
>  -Charles
>
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GESO (Galia) Belgium 2008

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

Galia and I together brought more than 2,000 images from the trip we 
just had. The task of sorting and processing is going to take some time 
to complete.

Here is a small gallery of pictures taken by Galia during our visit to 
Belgium. Special thanks goes to Thibouille who photo-dueled with Galia a 
lot ;-).

No processing was applied except very minor tonal adjustment. All these 
are full frames as they were shot.

Any comments, especially to Galia's father :-), will be greatly appreciated.

http://boris.isra-shop.com/galia_belgium_2008/index.html

Enjoy!

Boris

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RE: When is a little Photoshoppery too much Photoshoppery?

[Bob W]

 > 
> What are "chillies"?  Are they chilis?
> 

Yes


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Shel?

[keith_w]

Has it ever been answered: whatever happened to Shel Belinkoff?

May be I missed it?

keith whaley

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Re: Two grand for a manual Pentax!

[keith_w]

Re the Subject line, it's better than two grand for a Pentax manual!

keith

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Re: PESO - The Glance

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Charles Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I don't get that at all - he's looking at the lady to the left (and
> she at him)
>

I'm not sure what he's looking at.  Unfortunately, I couldn't bring
his eyes up enough that I could really see - it's either me or her,
don't know which.

>
> I'm not sure what it says either...!

Join the club!

;-)

cheers,
frank

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Re: PESO - The Glance

[Charles Robinson]

On Aug 18, 2008, at 10:50, ann sanfedele wrote:

> hmmm - He is looking at you not her   with that "why are you  
> taking
> my picture?" expression..

I don't get that at all - he's looking at the lady to the left (and  
she at him)
>>
>> Still, I think it has something to say (I'm just not sure what):
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/57alxb
>>
>> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SKlpsAl17KI/C4I/-iaHSa_a2GA/s1600-h/aug_18_08+006.jpg
>>

I'm not sure what it says either...!

  -Charles

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Re: When is a little Photoshoppery too much Photoshoppery?

[Gonz]

On 8/16/08, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Bob, do i dare ask the reason(s) behind your dislike of tolkien?
>
>
> I've never read anything by him, or seen any of the movies, and I
>  never will. This is pure prejudice.
>
>  Whimsical twee kitsch. Stupid made-up names. Complete absence of
>  irony. Overblown self-regarding pomposity  (describing his scribblings
>  as 'legendarium', for feck's sake!). Guilt by association with so many
>  of the dickheads who used to rave about the stuff and take it
>  seriously - generally the sort of prat who danced along with Ian
>  Anderson's crappy flute solos like pissed-up pixies with chillies on
>  their 'roids.
>
>

What are "chillies"?  Are they chilis?

>  Bob
>
>
>  > -Original Message-
>  > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>  > Behalf Of S J
>  > Sent: 16 August 2008 10:38
>  > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>  > Subject: Re: When is a little Photoshoppery too much Photoshoppery?
>  >
>
> > On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  > > *although personally I would imprison all writers of
>  > fantasy & science
>  > > fiction, and if he were still alive I would have Tolkien cut into
>  > > small pieces and fed to dwarves.
>  >
>
>  when
>  > i first read him (in the mid 80s, much much before the movies) it
>  was
>  > kind of refreshing. but then it didn't take me long understand that
>  > (to me) he was more or less a reactionary, right-of-centre (if not
>  > exactly right wing) writerand being that kind of astonishing
>  that
>  > he became an icon of the sixties (not that i was there in the
>  sixties,
>  > my ideas of the 60s are purely derived ones...)
>  >
>  > just curious on a lazy weekend... :-))
>  >
>  > regards, subash
>
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Re: OT: Strange bug

[Ken Waller]

I remember...
Being in swarms of mosquitos so thick that I couldn't change lenses without 
getting them in the camera.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT: Strange bug


>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "AlunFoto"
> Subject: Re: OT: Strange bug
>
>
>
>>
>> I remember I once got dust mites inside the mirror housing of my first
>> camera (Pentax P50). It was pretty weird to see those small,
>> half-transparent bugs wander across the matte screen. At first I
>> didn't know what it  was, and made the mistake of asking about it in a
>> camera shop... -You should have seen those faces...
>
> I remember.
> A lady came into my camera store with a lens that she insisted was falling
> apart. It had a couple of largish black specks in it.
> That was looking through the lens one way.
> The other way revealed a couple of very dead insects on one of the lens
> elements.
>
> William Robb


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Re: PESO: Runnin' 'Shine on the Avenue

[David J Brooks]

And so it should

Thats a great shot. Colours are great

Dave

On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 7:02 PM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7676095&size=lg
>
> Another shot that went in the gallery.
>
> Paul
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Re: OT - Olympic Panorama

[Toine]

And for Canon and Nikon junkies.

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 5:08 PM, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One for the panorama junkies:
>
> 
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
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