Re: PESO - Better Than a Limo
A very nice candid, Frank. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 9:25 AM Subject: PESO - Better Than a Limo > My partner and I made our annual pilgrimage to Toronto's Centre > Islands, accessible by a fun ferry ride across the harbour. On the > ferry ride home this young newlywed couple and a couple of dozen of > their well-dressed friends kind of stuck out from the usual picnicker. > I chatted with them for a few minutes and took a few pics - turned > out their wedding and reception was at one of the Island's nicer > restaurants. > > This one was actually taken just ~before~ I asked permission, and > (likely because it's the most candid) it's my favourite. > > Hope you enjoy: > > http://tinyurl.com/5gt3z7 > > http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SLKofZ2PLOI/C6Y/QhthNLjYaL8/s1600-h/aug_25_08+002.jpg > > cheers, > frank > > > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Psst, Buddy, Need a Rainbow ?
Dan M. You sign series has been really fun to see. You've got some good ones here. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 8:27 AM Subject: PESO: Psst, Buddy, Need a Rainbow ? > Another sign from my Maui trip; > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7711354 > > Dan M > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS: 300mm and 24-70mm
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 10:36:44PM +0100, Jan van Wijk wrote: > On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:01:52 -0400, Ken Waller wrote: > > >I thought about it for use with the 1.7 convertor as a lighter replacement > >for my 600mm. > > That works quite well, I do exactly that with the older manual focus A* 300mm > 2.8. As do I. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Zig and Zag
Hi all Thanks for the favourable comments on this image. Peter - I thought about cropping off the bottom but decided I didn't like the resulting aspect ratio. Thanks for the suggestion. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:41:56 -0400, "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Good eye. I think I'g crop it just above the shadows from the leaves at > the bottom. > > Brian Walters wrote: > > Hi all > > > > An image from a recent walk around the inner Sydney suburb of Glebe. > > > > Just an interesting shadow pattern on some old sandstone steps. > > > > > > http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/96351/Zig_and_Zag.html > > > > > > Plaudits and raspberries accepted with, more or less, equal > > grace.and, > > > > .in the interests of full disclosure, photoshoppery involved tonal > > corrections and just a wee bit of cloning on the top right to remove an > > unwanted shadow. > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Brian > > > > ++ > > Brian Walters > > Western Sydney Australia > > http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ > > > > > -- > You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. > --Al Capone. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - mmm... Fastmail... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Psst, Buddy, Need a Rainbow ?
In this case, yes. Rainbow Rentals does not rent rainbows, but porta-johns (portable toilets). The rainbow is a well-recognized symbol of the State of Hawai'i, and the athletic teams of the University of Hawai'i are nick-named "The Rainbows" or "the Bows," for short. (They used to be the Rainbow Warriors, but that became too politically incorrect.) Dan M On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 4:41 PM, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Daniel J. Matyola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote:re >> Another sign from my Maui trip; >> >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7711354 >> >> Dan > It appears they come in a male and female version? > > ;-) > > cheers, > frank > > > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO:
Makawao is on the side of the Halealalaa volcano, and Makawao Street,on which the restaurant fronts, is fairly steep. The restaurant floor is level. It was, of course, the sign that caught my eye. It fits into the mood of the town, which is a mix of Paniolos (cowboys) and artists. Dan M On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 12:47 PM, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Daniel J. Matyola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Another sign from Maui, this one on a Mexican restaurant in Makawao: >> >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7711325 >> > > Go to Hawaii to Mexican food. Har! > > Love the tilt of the restaurant. Can't quite see through the open > door - is the floor level or tilted in there? > > Great sign, too! > > cheers, > frank > > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: September PUG
I'll try to get one to you tomorrow evening. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Mon, 8/25/08, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any more for the sept. PUG? Documentary and Reportage. I > have 8 photos > so far. > > -- > Scott Loveless > Pentaxian > http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Michael Phelps
>> My birthday is tomorrow. > > Happy Birthday, Godfrey. cheers, Christine Thanks! I'll be relaxing on the plane to Dublin ... :-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Be careful were you place that decimal point
Hi Dave: Boy, your frustration is quite palpable; I feel like driving to Canada to buy you a beer, but I've read everyone's posts & I think everyone's given great advice & support. I wish you the best in your "soul-searching," Dave. Big cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax Discuss" Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 1:16 PM Subject: OT Be careful were you place that decimal point > Well, i have one more show to do this weekend, and it could be the last > for me. > > I have sat down and had a look at my so called books, and after using > a calculator instead of > doing math in my head, can now see what i have made since 2004, when i > went to web based sales only. > > 2004/2005, less than $300.00, each year > 2006 $450 > 2007 less than 1K. > Projected for 2008, $500-700.00 > > Not a lot of profit for a part time gig, that is supposed to help the > pocket book out.:-) > > I'm tired, I ache and i have lost interest. I',m pretty sure Liz would > like me to call it quits also. > I had every weekend from April to Sept tied up, and i'm sure she would > like to do stuff other than sit around the house, and wait for me to > come home.:-) > Last year worked out to around $2.50 an hour. > > I'll ponder over the next while, but i think its time to pass the > horse shoe on to the next eager beaver > that has started up an equestrian photo business. > > Now i know why you only see photographers for a few years, then new ones. > > I figure sales are low due to tight money, barns with parents with > Dslr's and give the photos away and scoping the proofs from the web. > > It was a good ride, if i decide to hang it up.:-) > > Dave > > > -- > Equine Photography > www.caughtinmotion.com > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > Ontario Canada > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Michael Phelps
- Original Message - From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Aug 25, 2008, at 3:18 PM, Cotty wrote: > >> Occasionally see them out and about. The problem with my Land Rover is >> that it's so high off the ground that I don't get that satisfying thud >> as they go under that I used to with the Discovery. In fact with the >> shorter ones, the only way I can confirm the hits is by the reversing >> camera on the back. > > > My birthday is tomorrow. Happy Birthday, Godfrey. cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Michael Phelps
- Original Message - From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I'm not sure what to think of this: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZjLATAUwao > > I think I'm mostly frightened by it. eee-gats! ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Michael Phelps
I love Monty Python! lol. Cheers, Christine >> He likes the way we celebrate great sporting achievements: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhJQp-q1Y1s >> >> Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Be careful were you place that decimal point
Since the ability to reproduce a print by scanning or photo copying, the value of the print has been in a downward spiral. The whole digital world has been part of the trend. With how much automation is available, the knowledge and skill needed to turn out average work is pretty low. Then you have places like Walmart selling prints at a very low price to get people in the store...it's no wonder the value of the print is pretty much gone. On top of all that, many people don't really want to deal in prints anymore. The medium has been changing - internet and computer viewing has really taken over to a large degree. A few years ago I changed my pricing model to basically deal with my time and skills rather than finished prints and books as the commodity being purchased. I either charge a flat rate for the job or an hourly rate for the service. It does not include any prints, but I will give them digital images when completed, if they desire. They can also order through my lab if they desire. It has worked reasonably well and taken away much of the headache of dealing with the prints. I am seeing more and more people (larger % of women) jumping into the wedding/portrait field. They rely on the automation the equipment brings to the table and have good creative skills. This is saturating the marketplace and bringing down the prices. It is still possible to go up market but requires a much bigger commitment than a part time or single photographer can do. I'm starting to ramble... -- Best regards, Bruce Monday, August 25, 2008, 5:15:04 PM, you wrote: BS> Dave, BS> I don't think the pictures or the web site are a problem. Both are BS> good enough, and as good as others I've seen. You're clients just BS> have very low price expectations. It's not encouraging... BS> Regards, Bob S. BS> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 5:36 PM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Well, i am taking the same type of photos as the competition, except >> most of the onsite companies shot a hell of a lot more of each rider. >> Having said that, they stil only get 3-4 out of , say 50 shots of the >> rider actually doing the jump or test or what have you. >> >> There clients think they are getting a bargin at $75 for a show CD. >> Look at all my photos i get. Yes but why would you want 20 of your >> back end going over a jump. >> >> Difficult to explain. >> >> I was one of two people 7 years ago, doing on site digital work. Even >> then, sales were not great, but i did make a bit of a profit each >> time. >> >> I talked to another shooter this weekend, who has been doing this as a >> pro, since 1988, and he has seen his profit decline drastically. He >> also does a lot of "commercial" work as well, and that is keeping him >> going. >> >> Here is his site. I don't see my shots any different or presented >> differently as his, and he is a main stream shooter. >> >> www.shootphoto.ca >> >> He uses CS to make his pages, i use Breeze Browser Pro. >> >> I think it boils down to repation. Same riders, same jumps, same back >> drops, same horses. >> >> I have sold to the same people for all these years, and unless i get >> an outstanding shot, or they get a new horse, its same ol, same ol. >> >> Well, some one else can take over, spend $1600 and do a pro web >> page(mine is home built, but you see that)and hopefully they do >> better. >> >> Life goes on. >> >> Dave >> >> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Maxime Thériault >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I can understand your feelings, and I reckon having far less knowledge in >>> this field than you more than likely have. >>> >>> But.. And it's not meant to be taken in a mean way, but I've looked at your >>> pictures collection and have to say that it's a far shot from the >>> 'professional equestrian photogs' in the way they are both presented >>> (website) and taken (The photos themselves). It's not to say that your >>> pictures are bad per see, but you need to know where your competition is at >>> and compete on the same level if you want an income that is above that of an >>> amateur / 'mom with DSLR' level. The market, ANY specialty market, are >>> awfully hard to penetrate and alas that is how that field is. >>> >>> That's about as far as my 'knowledge' goes, and like I said you probably >>> know more than I do, and your business plan was probably taking this into >>> account etc. >>> >>> I do wish you luck and fortune in any decision you take. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >>> David J Brooks >>> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 2:17 PM >>> To: Pentax Discuss >>> Subject: OT Be careful were you place that decimal point >>> >>> Well, i have one more show to do this weekend, and it could be the last for >>> me. >>> >>> I have sat down and had a look at my so called books, and after using >>> a calculator instead of >>> doing math in my head, can now see what i have made since 2004, when i >>> went to we
Re: Michael Phelps
No, he has to shrink them before he mounts them... On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 6:11 PM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you mount the heads on your radio antenna as well? > > Cotty wrote: >> On 25/8/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: >> >> I'm not sure what to think of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZjLATAUwao I think I'm mostly frightened by it. >>> LOL!!! >>> >>> I'll let you know just how frightening it is when Cotty takes me >>> there ... >>> >> >> Dahhh. Morris men. Eccentric but harmless. Keeps the tourists happy. >> >> Occasionally see them out and about. The problem with my Land Rover is >> that it's so high off the ground that I don't get that satisfying thud >> as they go under that I used to with the Discovery. In fact with the >> shorter ones, the only way I can confirm the hits is by the reversing >> camera on the back. >> >> -- >> >> >> Cheers, >> Cotty >> >> >> ___/\__ >> || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche >> ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com >> _ >> >> >> >> > > > -- > You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. >--Al Capone. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Be careful were you place that decimal point
Dave, I don't think the pictures or the web site are a problem. Both are good enough, and as good as others I've seen. You're clients just have very low price expectations. It's not encouraging... Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 5:36 PM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, i am taking the same type of photos as the competition, except > most of the onsite companies shot a hell of a lot more of each rider. > Having said that, they stil only get 3-4 out of , say 50 shots of the > rider actually doing the jump or test or what have you. > > There clients think they are getting a bargin at $75 for a show CD. > Look at all my photos i get. Yes but why would you want 20 of your > back end going over a jump. > > Difficult to explain. > > I was one of two people 7 years ago, doing on site digital work. Even > then, sales were not great, but i did make a bit of a profit each > time. > > I talked to another shooter this weekend, who has been doing this as a > pro, since 1988, and he has seen his profit decline drastically. He > also does a lot of "commercial" work as well, and that is keeping him > going. > > Here is his site. I don't see my shots any different or presented > differently as his, and he is a main stream shooter. > > www.shootphoto.ca > > He uses CS to make his pages, i use Breeze Browser Pro. > > I think it boils down to repation. Same riders, same jumps, same back > drops, same horses. > > I have sold to the same people for all these years, and unless i get > an outstanding shot, or they get a new horse, its same ol, same ol. > > Well, some one else can take over, spend $1600 and do a pro web > page(mine is home built, but you see that)and hopefully they do > better. > > Life goes on. > > Dave > > On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Maxime Thériault > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I can understand your feelings, and I reckon having far less knowledge in >> this field than you more than likely have. >> >> But.. And it's not meant to be taken in a mean way, but I've looked at your >> pictures collection and have to say that it's a far shot from the >> 'professional equestrian photogs' in the way they are both presented >> (website) and taken (The photos themselves). It's not to say that your >> pictures are bad per see, but you need to know where your competition is at >> and compete on the same level if you want an income that is above that of an >> amateur / 'mom with DSLR' level. The market, ANY specialty market, are >> awfully hard to penetrate and alas that is how that field is. >> >> That's about as far as my 'knowledge' goes, and like I said you probably >> know more than I do, and your business plan was probably taking this into >> account etc. >> >> I do wish you luck and fortune in any decision you take. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >> David J Brooks >> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 2:17 PM >> To: Pentax Discuss >> Subject: OT Be careful were you place that decimal point >> >> Well, i have one more show to do this weekend, and it could be the last for >> me. >> >> I have sat down and had a look at my so called books, and after using >> a calculator instead of >> doing math in my head, can now see what i have made since 2004, when i >> went to web based sales only. >> >> 2004/2005, less than $300.00, each year >> 2006 $450 >> 2007 less than 1K. >> Projected for 2008, $500-700.00 >> >> Not a lot of profit for a part time gig, that is supposed to help the >> pocket book out.:-) >> >> I'm tired, I ache and i have lost interest. I',m pretty sure Liz would >> like me to call it quits also. >> I had every weekend from April to Sept tied up, and i'm sure she would >> like to do stuff other than sit around the house, and wait for me to >> come home.:-) >> Last year worked out to around $2.50 an hour. >> >> I'll ponder over the next while, but i think its time to pass the >> horse shoe on to the next eager beaver >> that has started up an equestrian photo business. >> >> Now i know why you only see photographers for a few years, then new ones. >> >> I figure sales are low due to tight money, barns with parents with >> Dslr's and give the photos away and scoping the proofs from the web. >> >> It was a good ride, if i decide to hang it up.:-) >> >> Dave >> >> >> -- >> Equine Photography >> www.caughtinmotion.com >> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ >> Ontario Canada >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > > > -- > Equine Photography > www.caughtinmotion.com > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > Ontario Canada > > -- >
Re: OT Be careful were you place that decimal point
Well, I can certainly understand. I quit shooting Little League Baseball action shots for similar reasons. There is just not enough money in it. The only money to be made is to line everyone up and quickly shoot team and individual posed shots. Pretty much an assembly line and not much fun. And for that you need about 4 teams of photographers and support staff. Weddings and portraits pay much better and for less work/time. Still nothing at all compared to my real job. -- Best regards, Bruce Monday, August 25, 2008, 11:16:31 AM, you wrote: DJB> Well, i have one more show to do this weekend, and it could be the last for me. DJB> I have sat down and had a look at my so called books, and after using DJB> a calculator instead of DJB> doing math in my head, can now see what i have made since 2004, when i DJB> went to web based sales only. DJB> 2004/2005, less than $300.00, each year DJB> 2006 $450 DJB> 2007 less than 1K. DJB> Projected for 2008, $500-700.00 DJB> Not a lot of profit for a part time gig, that is supposed to help the DJB> pocket book out.:-) DJB> I'm tired, I ache and i have lost interest. I',m pretty sure Liz would DJB> like me to call it quits also. DJB> I had every weekend from April to Sept tied up, and i'm sure she would DJB> like to do stuff other than sit around the house, and wait for me to DJB> come home.:-) DJB> Last year worked out to around $2.50 an hour. DJB> I'll ponder over the next while, but i think its time to pass the DJB> horse shoe on to the next eager beaver DJB> that has started up an equestrian photo business. DJB> Now i know why you only see photographers for a few years, then new ones. DJB> I figure sales are low due to tight money, barns with parents with DJB> Dslr's and give the photos away and scoping the proofs from the web. DJB> It was a good ride, if i decide to hang it up.:-) DJB> Dave DJB> -- DJB> Equine Photography DJB> www.caughtinmotion.com DJB> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ DJB> Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Michael Phelps
Do you mount the heads on your radio antenna as well? Cotty wrote: > On 25/8/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >>> I'm not sure what to think of this: >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZjLATAUwao >>> >>> I think I'm mostly frightened by it. >>> >> LOL!!! >> >> I'll let you know just how frightening it is when Cotty takes me >> there ... >> > > Dahhh. Morris men. Eccentric but harmless. Keeps the tourists happy. > > Occasionally see them out and about. The problem with my Land Rover is > that it's so high off the ground that I don't get that satisfying thud > as they go under that I used to with the Discovery. In fact with the > shorter ones, the only way I can confirm the hits is by the reversing > camera on the back. > > -- > > > Cheers, > Cotty > > > ___/\__ > || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche > ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com > _ > > > > -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Be careful were you place that decimal point
frank theriault wrote: > On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 2:16 PM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> but i think its time to pass the >> horse shoe on to the next eager beaver >> that has started up an equestrian photo business. >> > > Sounds like you've lost your motivation. If it's not fun anymore, and > if the money's not enough to overcome the lack of enjoyment, you're > probably doing well to consider calling it a day. > > Sounds like you've got some soul-searching to do... > > cheers, > frank > It'll be easy for him to find his sole if he's wearing horse shoes, no search necessary... -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Michael Phelps
On Aug 25, 2008, at 3:18 PM, Cotty wrote: > Occasionally see them out and about. The problem with my Land Rover is > that it's so high off the ground that I don't get that satisfying thud > as they go under that I used to with the Discovery. In fact with the > shorter ones, the only way I can confirm the hits is by the reversing > camera on the back. My birthday is tomorrow. Do be kind to an old man and be sure to have a step ladder along when you pick me up, ok? :-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Be careful were you place that decimal point
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 4:39 PM, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 2:16 PM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Well, i have one more show to do this weekend, and it could be the last for >> me. >> >> I have sat down and had a look at my so called books, and after using >> a calculator instead of >> doing math in my head, can now see what i have made since 2004, when i >> went to web based sales only. >> >> 2004/2005, less than $300.00, each year >> 2006 $450 >> 2007 less than 1K. >> Projected for 2008, $500-700.00 >> >> Not a lot of profit for a part time gig, that is supposed to help the >> pocket book out.:-) >> >> I'm tired, I ache and i have lost interest. I',m pretty sure Liz would >> like me to call it quits also. >> I had every weekend from April to Sept tied up, and i'm sure she would >> like to do stuff other than sit around the house, and wait for me to >> come home.:-) >> Last year worked out to around $2.50 an hour. >> >> I'll ponder over the next while, but i think its time to pass the >> horse shoe on to the next eager beaver >> that has started up an equestrian photo business. >> >> Now i know why you only see photographers for a few years, then new ones. >> >> I figure sales are low due to tight money, barns with parents with >> Dslr's and give the photos away and scoping the proofs from the web. >> >> It was a good ride, if i decide to hang it up.:-) >> > > Sounds like you've lost your motivation. If it's not fun anymore, and > if the money's not enough to overcome the lack of enjoyment, you're > probably doing well to consider calling it a day. > > Sounds like you've got some soul-searching to do... I';m afraid so. I have pretty much made up my mind. The return is just not worth it anymore. I may feel different when i see my bottom line in December, should it rise a lot. Dave > > cheers, > frank > > > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Be careful were you place that decimal point
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Aug 25, 2008, at 11:16 AM, David J Brooks wrote: > >> Well, i have one more show to do this weekend, and it could be the >> last for me. >> ... > > It points to a basic fact of photographic business: selling prints is > not the way to make a living at it unless you are selling a LOT of > them, or selling fine art prints through a gallery ... and even then > you have to have the right connections and the right gallery to > promote your work. > > Selling rights to the use of images in publication is the more > lucrative end of the business for me. I've made much more money from > selling one photograph for a book cover than I've made in three years > of selling dozens of prints at the galleries. I get $25 for a photo in a magazine. :-) Dave > > Godfrey > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Be careful were you place that decimal point
Well, i am taking the same type of photos as the competition, except most of the onsite companies shot a hell of a lot more of each rider. Having said that, they stil only get 3-4 out of , say 50 shots of the rider actually doing the jump or test or what have you. There clients think they are getting a bargin at $75 for a show CD. Look at all my photos i get. Yes but why would you want 20 of your back end going over a jump. Difficult to explain. I was one of two people 7 years ago, doing on site digital work. Even then, sales were not great, but i did make a bit of a profit each time. I talked to another shooter this weekend, who has been doing this as a pro, since 1988, and he has seen his profit decline drastically. He also does a lot of "commercial" work as well, and that is keeping him going. Here is his site. I don't see my shots any different or presented differently as his, and he is a main stream shooter. www.shootphoto.ca He uses CS to make his pages, i use Breeze Browser Pro. I think it boils down to repation. Same riders, same jumps, same back drops, same horses. I have sold to the same people for all these years, and unless i get an outstanding shot, or they get a new horse, its same ol, same ol. Well, some one else can take over, spend $1600 and do a pro web page(mine is home built, but you see that)and hopefully they do better. Life goes on. Dave On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Maxime Thériault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can understand your feelings, and I reckon having far less knowledge in > this field than you more than likely have. > > But.. And it's not meant to be taken in a mean way, but I've looked at your > pictures collection and have to say that it's a far shot from the > 'professional equestrian photogs' in the way they are both presented > (website) and taken (The photos themselves). It's not to say that your > pictures are bad per see, but you need to know where your competition is at > and compete on the same level if you want an income that is above that of an > amateur / 'mom with DSLR' level. The market, ANY specialty market, are > awfully hard to penetrate and alas that is how that field is. > > That's about as far as my 'knowledge' goes, and like I said you probably > know more than I do, and your business plan was probably taking this into > account etc. > > I do wish you luck and fortune in any decision you take. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > David J Brooks > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 2:17 PM > To: Pentax Discuss > Subject: OT Be careful were you place that decimal point > > Well, i have one more show to do this weekend, and it could be the last for > me. > > I have sat down and had a look at my so called books, and after using > a calculator instead of > doing math in my head, can now see what i have made since 2004, when i > went to web based sales only. > > 2004/2005, less than $300.00, each year > 2006 $450 > 2007 less than 1K. > Projected for 2008, $500-700.00 > > Not a lot of profit for a part time gig, that is supposed to help the > pocket book out.:-) > > I'm tired, I ache and i have lost interest. I',m pretty sure Liz would > like me to call it quits also. > I had every weekend from April to Sept tied up, and i'm sure she would > like to do stuff other than sit around the house, and wait for me to > come home.:-) > Last year worked out to around $2.50 an hour. > > I'll ponder over the next while, but i think its time to pass the > horse shoe on to the next eager beaver > that has started up an equestrian photo business. > > Now i know why you only see photographers for a few years, then new ones. > > I figure sales are low due to tight money, barns with parents with > Dslr's and give the photos away and scoping the proofs from the web. > > It was a good ride, if i decide to hang it up.:-) > > Dave > > > -- > Equine Photography > www.caughtinmotion.com > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > Ontario Canada > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Michael Phelps
On 25/8/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: >> I'm not sure what to think of this: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZjLATAUwao >> >> I think I'm mostly frightened by it. > >LOL!!! > >I'll let you know just how frightening it is when Cotty takes me >there ... Dahhh. Morris men. Eccentric but harmless. Keeps the tourists happy. Occasionally see them out and about. The problem with my Land Rover is that it's so high off the ground that I don't get that satisfying thud as they go under that I used to with the Discovery. In fact with the shorter ones, the only way I can confirm the hits is by the reversing camera on the back. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Michael Phelps
> >> He likes the way we celebrate great sporting achievements: > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhJQp-q1Y1s > > > > The Fish Slapping Dance is funny because it's ~supposed~ to > be funny. > > > > I'm not sure what to think of this: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZjLATAUwao > > > > I think I'm mostly frightened by it. > > LOL!!! > > I'll let you know just how frightening it is when Cotty takes me > there ... There'll be 20,000 of us doing that at the 2012 Olympics opening ceremony... http://www.web-options.com/FL2008/content/_6207835_large.html Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Be careful were you place that decimal point
Dave, Well at least you made something. Our tax man insists that you make a profit every few years or he calls it a hobby and dis-allows any deductions on the business. My wife and her sister had saddle bred horses that they showed (before our marriage). The photography was always tricky and I imagine expensive. I think the photographer made his money in sales to the horsey magazines. I don't know that you want to save the business, but you could triple your prices and stop web publication. In the old days, they only got to see proofs at the next show some two weeks later. Like Ken said, the horse show circuit is a good way to turn $2 million into $1 million. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 1:16 PM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, i have one more show to do this weekend, and it could be the last for > me. > > I have sat down and had a look at my so called books, and after using > a calculator instead of > doing math in my head, can now see what i have made since 2004, when i > went to web based sales only. > > 2004/2005, less than $300.00, each year > 2006 $450 > 2007 less than 1K. > Projected for 2008, $500-700.00 > > Not a lot of profit for a part time gig, that is supposed to help the > pocket book out.:-) > > I'm tired, I ache and i have lost interest. I',m pretty sure Liz would > like me to call it quits also. > I had every weekend from April to Sept tied up, and i'm sure she would > like to do stuff other than sit around the house, and wait for me to > come home.:-) > Last year worked out to around $2.50 an hour. > > I'll ponder over the next while, but i think its time to pass the > horse shoe on to the next eager beaver > that has started up an equestrian photo business. > > Now i know why you only see photographers for a few years, then new ones. > > I figure sales are low due to tight money, barns with parents with > Dslr's and give the photos away and scoping the proofs from the web. > > It was a good ride, if i decide to hang it up.:-) > > Dave > > > -- > Equine Photography > www.caughtinmotion.com > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > Ontario Canada > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Michael Phelps
On Aug 25, 2008, at 1:48 PM, frank theriault wrote: >> He likes the way we celebrate great sporting achievements: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhJQp-q1Y1s > > The Fish Slapping Dance is funny because it's ~supposed~ to be funny. > > I'm not sure what to think of this: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZjLATAUwao > > I think I'm mostly frightened by it. LOL!!! I'll let you know just how frightening it is when Cotty takes me there ... Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Be careful were you place that decimal point
On Aug 25, 2008, at 11:16 AM, David J Brooks wrote: > Well, i have one more show to do this weekend, and it could be the > last for me. > ... It points to a basic fact of photographic business: selling prints is not the way to make a living at it unless you are selling a LOT of them, or selling fine art prints through a gallery ... and even then you have to have the right connections and the right gallery to promote your work. Selling rights to the use of images in publication is the more lucrative end of the business for me. I've made much more money from selling one photograph for a book cover than I've made in three years of selling dozens of prints at the galleries. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT Be careful were you place that decimal point
I can understand your feelings, and I reckon having far less knowledge in this field than you more than likely have. But.. And it's not meant to be taken in a mean way, but I've looked at your pictures collection and have to say that it's a far shot from the 'professional equestrian photogs' in the way they are both presented (website) and taken (The photos themselves). It's not to say that your pictures are bad per see, but you need to know where your competition is at and compete on the same level if you want an income that is above that of an amateur / 'mom with DSLR' level. The market, ANY specialty market, are awfully hard to penetrate and alas that is how that field is. That's about as far as my 'knowledge' goes, and like I said you probably know more than I do, and your business plan was probably taking this into account etc. I do wish you luck and fortune in any decision you take. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David J Brooks Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 2:17 PM To: Pentax Discuss Subject: OT Be careful were you place that decimal point Well, i have one more show to do this weekend, and it could be the last for me. I have sat down and had a look at my so called books, and after using a calculator instead of doing math in my head, can now see what i have made since 2004, when i went to web based sales only. 2004/2005, less than $300.00, each year 2006 $450 2007 less than 1K. Projected for 2008, $500-700.00 Not a lot of profit for a part time gig, that is supposed to help the pocket book out.:-) I'm tired, I ache and i have lost interest. I',m pretty sure Liz would like me to call it quits also. I had every weekend from April to Sept tied up, and i'm sure she would like to do stuff other than sit around the house, and wait for me to come home.:-) Last year worked out to around $2.50 an hour. I'll ponder over the next while, but i think its time to pass the horse shoe on to the next eager beaver that has started up an equestrian photo business. Now i know why you only see photographers for a few years, then new ones. I figure sales are low due to tight money, barns with parents with Dslr's and give the photos away and scoping the proofs from the web. It was a good ride, if i decide to hang it up.:-) Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Michael Phelps
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 4:14 AM, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > He likes the way we celebrate great sporting achievements: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhJQp-q1Y1s The Fish Slapping Dance is funny because it's ~supposed~ to be funny. I'm not sure what to think of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZjLATAUwao I think I'm mostly frightened by it. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Slow bike
Yuck. This has been a heck of a year for injury and broken bones amongst my friends and acquaintances. Two more to add to the fray ... that's a total of 18 so far in 2008. And I was nearly in there too a couple of months back ... Be careful out there! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Be careful were you place that decimal point
To some degree photography is like car racing. If you want to make a million $ in photography you need to start out with two million $ Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT Be careful were you place that decimal point > On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 2:16 PM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> Well, i have one more show to do this weekend, and it could be the last >> for me. >> >> I have sat down and had a look at my so called books, and after using >> a calculator instead of >> doing math in my head, can now see what i have made since 2004, when i >> went to web based sales only. >> >> 2004/2005, less than $300.00, each year >> 2006 $450 >> 2007 less than 1K. >> Projected for 2008, $500-700.00 >> >> Not a lot of profit for a part time gig, that is supposed to help the >> pocket book out.:-) >> >> I'm tired, I ache and i have lost interest. I',m pretty sure Liz would >> like me to call it quits also. >> I had every weekend from April to Sept tied up, and i'm sure she would >> like to do stuff other than sit around the house, and wait for me to >> come home.:-) >> Last year worked out to around $2.50 an hour. >> >> I'll ponder over the next while, but i think its time to pass the >> horse shoe on to the next eager beaver >> that has started up an equestrian photo business. >> >> Now i know why you only see photographers for a few years, then new ones. >> >> I figure sales are low due to tight money, barns with parents with >> Dslr's and give the photos away and scoping the proofs from the web. >> >> It was a good ride, if i decide to hang it up.:-) >> > > Sounds like you've lost your motivation. If it's not fun anymore, and > if the money's not enough to overcome the lack of enjoyment, you're > probably doing well to consider calling it a day. > > Sounds like you've got some soul-searching to do... > > cheers, > frank > > > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Psst, Buddy, Need a Rainbow ?
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Daniel J. Matyola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another sign from my Maui trip; > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7711354 > > Dan M It appears they come in a male and female version? ;-) cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT (very): Get yer wimples out, sisters!
>> Sorry. All my habits are very, very bad. > > You can do better than that. Ken? Mark? Where are you? I've heard of a priest that got defrocked beacuse + + Drum roll please... + + + he couldn't get out of the habit. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT (very): Get yer wimples out, sisters! > On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> Sorry. All my habits are very, very bad. > > You can do better than that. Ken? Mark? Where are you? > > -f -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Be careful were you place that decimal point
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 2:16 PM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, i have one more show to do this weekend, and it could be the last for > me. > > I have sat down and had a look at my so called books, and after using > a calculator instead of > doing math in my head, can now see what i have made since 2004, when i > went to web based sales only. > > 2004/2005, less than $300.00, each year > 2006 $450 > 2007 less than 1K. > Projected for 2008, $500-700.00 > > Not a lot of profit for a part time gig, that is supposed to help the > pocket book out.:-) > > I'm tired, I ache and i have lost interest. I',m pretty sure Liz would > like me to call it quits also. > I had every weekend from April to Sept tied up, and i'm sure she would > like to do stuff other than sit around the house, and wait for me to > come home.:-) > Last year worked out to around $2.50 an hour. > > I'll ponder over the next while, but i think its time to pass the > horse shoe on to the next eager beaver > that has started up an equestrian photo business. > > Now i know why you only see photographers for a few years, then new ones. > > I figure sales are low due to tight money, barns with parents with > Dslr's and give the photos away and scoping the proofs from the web. > > It was a good ride, if i decide to hang it up.:-) > Sounds like you've lost your motivation. If it's not fun anymore, and if the money's not enough to overcome the lack of enjoyment, you're probably doing well to consider calling it a day. Sounds like you've got some soul-searching to do... cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Slow bike
>I never heard (before now, that is) of shattered ankle. I'm not aware of the correct medical terminology for his condition, but I know several bones involved in ankle articulation were fractured & required the insertion of metal pins. I think if he would have just fallen over he might have incurred less injuries, but he faught like hell trying to get out of his clips. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Maxime Thériault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Slow bike I never heard (before now, that is) of shattered ankle but definitely heard of shattered egos. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Waller Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 11:51 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Slow bike >I fell, once, when stopping. I leaned on the wrong side (the one where I >wasn't clipped out) and that was silly. I have a friend that did just that & utterly shattered his ankle doing it. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Maxime Thériault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Slow bike I fell, once, when stopping. I leaned on the wrong side (the one where I wasn't clipped out) and that was silly. If you fell doing what you just said, would it be as silly? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Mann Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 4:14 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Slow bike One of these days I should learn to ride the fixie backwards. And learn to trackstand with either foot forward, and one-handed (so I can indicate while balancing). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Slow bike
>Most people seem to get caught at one time or another (usually when still >getting used to having clip-in > pedals). That was the case with my friend. He now has a permanent limp. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "David Mann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Slow bike > On Aug 25, 2008, at 3:51 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > >>> I fell, once, when stopping. I leaned on the wrong side (the one >>> where I >>> wasn't clipped out) and that was silly. >> >> I have a friend that did just that & utterly shattered his ankle >> doing it. > > Ouch. So far I've managed to avoid the very common mistake of > stopping before unclipping. Most people seem to get caught at one > time or another (usually when still getting used to having clip-in > pedals). > > - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Toronto cyclists rejoice!
Maybe they could just rent from Igor... -p frank theriault wrote: > On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 12:05 PM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I guess it's different in Canada, in most places in the US if the >> property remains unclaimed after a period, (either common law or >> statutory), of time has elapsed they sell the stuff at auction with >> either city or department getting the proceeds. It's a win, win, as far >> as the police department is concerned. It seems entirely too venal for >> the Canadian authorities to not have the same law. > > We do have such a law, and the cops have one or two auctions a year. > But normally they have like a couple hundred bikes in these auctions, > with appropriate storage facilities for that many bikes. > > However, as you said, they have to keep them available for reclamation > for a period of time until they can be auctioned, and they don't have > the facilites for over three thousand bikes to be stored. They're > having to rent storage areas for that purpose, and I doubt that > they'll make as much from these auctions as they pay out for > warehousing... > > It's all quite cumbersome. > > cheers, > frank > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT (very): Get yer wimples out, sisters!
> > "You really think all nuns are old, stunted and sad?" > > > > This is why God gave us Italians: > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7581039.stm > > > > I guess for the swimsuit competition they'd wear their bikinis ~under~ > their habits? Yea, rite. So we'd be nun the wiser. > > Okay punsters, see that? I said "habits". There are some really hot-looking wimple guimpes on this site: http://www.gothicgarments.com/ There are even some pre-Vatican Council II habits (unpleated!) that should stiffen your crown bands. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT (very): Get yer wimples out, sisters!
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Re: OT (very): Get yer wimples out, sisters!
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry. All my habits are very, very bad. You can do better than that. Ken? Mark? Where are you? -f -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT Be careful were you place that decimal point
Well, i have one more show to do this weekend, and it could be the last for me. I have sat down and had a look at my so called books, and after using a calculator instead of doing math in my head, can now see what i have made since 2004, when i went to web based sales only. 2004/2005, less than $300.00, each year 2006 $450 2007 less than 1K. Projected for 2008, $500-700.00 Not a lot of profit for a part time gig, that is supposed to help the pocket book out.:-) I'm tired, I ache and i have lost interest. I',m pretty sure Liz would like me to call it quits also. I had every weekend from April to Sept tied up, and i'm sure she would like to do stuff other than sit around the house, and wait for me to come home.:-) Last year worked out to around $2.50 an hour. I'll ponder over the next while, but i think its time to pass the horse shoe on to the next eager beaver that has started up an equestrian photo business. Now i know why you only see photographers for a few years, then new ones. I figure sales are low due to tight money, barns with parents with Dslr's and give the photos away and scoping the proofs from the web. It was a good ride, if i decide to hang it up.:-) Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT (very): Get yer wimples out, sisters!
frank theriault wrote: > On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> "You really think all nuns are old, stunted and sad?" >> >> This is why God gave us Italians: >> >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7581039.stm >> > > I guess for the swimsuit competition they'd wear their bikinis ~under~ > their habits? > > Okay punsters, see that? I said "habits". > > Gentlemen, start your punny engines! Sorry. All my habits are very, very bad. -- Scott Loveless Pentaxian http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Zig and Zag
On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 7:55 AM, Brian Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all > > An image from a recent walk around the inner Sydney suburb of Glebe. > > Just an interesting shadow pattern on some old sandstone steps. > > > http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/96351/Zig_and_Zag.html > > Wonderful lighting and texture on the steps. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT (very): Get yer wimples out, sisters!
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "You really think all nuns are old, stunted and sad?" > > This is why God gave us Italians: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7581039.stm > I guess for the swimsuit competition they'd wear their bikinis ~under~ their habits? Okay punsters, see that? I said "habits". Gentlemen, start your punny engines! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO:
On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Daniel J. Matyola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another sign from Maui, this one on a Mexican restaurant in Makawao: > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7711325 > Go to Hawaii to Mexican food. Har! Love the tilt of the restaurant. Can't quite see through the open door - is the floor level or tilted in there? Great sign, too! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT (very): Get yer wimples out, sisters!
"You really think all nuns are old, stunted and sad?" This is why God gave us Italians: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7581039.stm Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
September PUG
Any more for the sept. PUG? Documentary and Reportage. I have 8 photos so far. -- Scott Loveless Pentaxian http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Toronto cyclists rejoice!
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 12:05 PM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I guess it's different in Canada, in most places in the US if the > property remains unclaimed after a period, (either common law or > statutory), of time has elapsed they sell the stuff at auction with > either city or department getting the proceeds. It's a win, win, as far > as the police department is concerned. It seems entirely too venal for > the Canadian authorities to not have the same law. We do have such a law, and the cops have one or two auctions a year. But normally they have like a couple hundred bikes in these auctions, with appropriate storage facilities for that many bikes. However, as you said, they have to keep them available for reclamation for a period of time until they can be auctioned, and they don't have the facilites for over three thousand bikes to be stored. They're having to rent storage areas for that purpose, and I doubt that they'll make as much from these auctions as they pay out for warehousing... It's all quite cumbersome. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: Toronto cyclists rejoice!
> > > http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/sting-operation-nets- > > prolific-toronto-bike-thief-907571.html > > > > Bob > [...] > > Now the cops have a huge problem because they'll never be able to find > the original owners of all those bikes, and they're going to pay a > fortune warehousing them until their next bike auction. Perhaps had > they gone after him when they should have, ten or more years ago... > > Anyway, thanks for an interesting article, Bob. Hi Frank, I was hoping you'd chime in with some background - thanks, very interesting. I would imagine that most people who haven't reclaimed their bikes have probably had an insurance payout. It should be an interesting auction when it takes place - there'll be a lot of very cheap bikes to be had. They should then give anything unsold (and in reasonable condition) to charities. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: The Peloton
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:59 PM, Ira H. Bryant IV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A gallery of racing cyclists. > > http://www.timmkoelln.com/the_peloton/ > > Ira > > -- > Ira Bryant > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Excellent photos! I looked at them first then read that they were taken just after finishing a race, and it shows in their faces and their bodies. It's so cool to men with pencil-thin upper bodies wearing spandex! ;-) Except Robbie McEwan, of course, who's a sprinter and therefore much bigger (especially in the upper body) than most road racers. Great stuff. Thanks for the link. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Toronto cyclists rejoice!
IIRC the Toronto Police have an auction once, and perhaps twice a year, and dump this kind of stuff. The TTC, Toronto Transit has one as well from their lost and found. Dave On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 12:05 PM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I guess it's different in Canada, in most places in the US if the > property remains unclaimed after a period, (either common law or > statutory), of time has elapsed they sell the stuff at auction with > either city or department getting the proceeds. It's a win, win, as far > as the police department is concerned. It seems entirely too venal for > the Canadian authorities to not have the same law. > > frank theriault wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Here's an interesting and slightly strange story about where bicycles >>> go to die: >>> >>> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/sting-operation-nets- >>> prolific-toronto-bike-thief-907571.html >>> >>> Bob >>> >> >> Toronto's bike community has known about Igor for a long long time. >> In fact, ever since I moved to Toronto in '96 everyone said, "If your >> bike's been stolen, the first place to check is Igor's." Depending on >> Igor's mood, he'd actually give it back to the original owner, he'd >> sell it back for what he paid the thief (most often around $50 to >> $100), he'd sell it for market value for a used bike, or he'd deny he >> knew anything about it (even while the thing's sitting on his sales >> floor). Most often he'd sell it for what he paid the thief, saying >> "hey, I didn't know it was stolen!" - even though he obviously did. >> >> The article you sent is crap - just like all the local newspaper >> articles. They talk about the police clamping down on bike theft, and >> the surge in thefts early in the summer and how the cops were so >> concerned and that's why they suddenly decided to go after him. Truth >> is that cyclists have been trying to get the police to go after Igor >> for years. When he first opened he was in the middle of a real >> down-and-out neighbourhood, and hey, it's not like he was stealing >> cars or anything, so who really cared? >> >> However, over the past four or five years many of the abandonned >> warehouses and factories have been converted into expensive condos, >> and suddenly the place is all full of art galleries and fancy bistros >> and stuff. Now the cops have a reason to "clean the area up" and let >> the locals know that they live in a safe neighbourhood. >> >> Igor had so many bikes he'd have never been able to sell them all - >> they're now saying well over 3,000, hoarded in the basement, attic, at >> his house. It seems he could never turn down a stolen bike. Very >> weird. >> >> Now the cops have a huge problem because they'll never be able to find >> the original owners of all those bikes, and they're going to pay a >> fortune warehousing them until their next bike auction. Perhaps had >> they gone after him when they should have, ten or more years ago... >> >> Anyway, thanks for an interesting article, Bob. >> >> cheers, >> frank >> > > > -- > You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. >--Al Capone. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Better Than a Limo
They seem a bit overdressed for the occasion. frank theriault wrote: > My partner and I made our annual pilgrimage to Toronto's Centre > Islands, accessible by a fun ferry ride across the harbour. On the > ferry ride home this young newlywed couple and a couple of dozen of > their well-dressed friends kind of stuck out from the usual picnicker. > I chatted with them for a few minutes and took a few pics - turned > out their wedding and reception was at one of the Island's nicer > restaurants. > > This one was actually taken just ~before~ I asked permission, and > (likely because it's the most candid) it's my favourite. > > Hope you enjoy: > > http://tinyurl.com/5gt3z7 > > http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SLKofZ2PLOI/C6Y/QhthNLjYaL8/s1600-h/aug_25_08+002.jpg > > cheers, > frank > > > > -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Toronto cyclists rejoice!
I guess it's different in Canada, in most places in the US if the property remains unclaimed after a period, (either common law or statutory), of time has elapsed they sell the stuff at auction with either city or department getting the proceeds. It's a win, win, as far as the police department is concerned. It seems entirely too venal for the Canadian authorities to not have the same law. frank theriault wrote: > On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Here's an interesting and slightly strange story about where bicycles >> go to die: >> >> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/sting-operation-nets- >> prolific-toronto-bike-thief-907571.html >> >> Bob >> > > Toronto's bike community has known about Igor for a long long time. > In fact, ever since I moved to Toronto in '96 everyone said, "If your > bike's been stolen, the first place to check is Igor's." Depending on > Igor's mood, he'd actually give it back to the original owner, he'd > sell it back for what he paid the thief (most often around $50 to > $100), he'd sell it for market value for a used bike, or he'd deny he > knew anything about it (even while the thing's sitting on his sales > floor). Most often he'd sell it for what he paid the thief, saying > "hey, I didn't know it was stolen!" - even though he obviously did. > > The article you sent is crap - just like all the local newspaper > articles. They talk about the police clamping down on bike theft, and > the surge in thefts early in the summer and how the cops were so > concerned and that's why they suddenly decided to go after him. Truth > is that cyclists have been trying to get the police to go after Igor > for years. When he first opened he was in the middle of a real > down-and-out neighbourhood, and hey, it's not like he was stealing > cars or anything, so who really cared? > > However, over the past four or five years many of the abandonned > warehouses and factories have been converted into expensive condos, > and suddenly the place is all full of art galleries and fancy bistros > and stuff. Now the cops have a reason to "clean the area up" and let > the locals know that they live in a safe neighbourhood. > > Igor had so many bikes he'd have never been able to sell them all - > they're now saying well over 3,000, hoarded in the basement, attic, at > his house. It seems he could never turn down a stolen bike. Very > weird. > > Now the cops have a huge problem because they'll never be able to find > the original owners of all those bikes, and they're going to pay a > fortune warehousing them until their next bike auction. Perhaps had > they gone after him when they should have, ten or more years ago... > > Anyway, thanks for an interesting article, Bob. > > cheers, > frank > -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Better Than a Limo
Newlyweds "symbolically" looking ahead.(?) Like their unaware sense of the photo. Another very well done conversion. Frank! Jack --- On Mon, 8/25/08, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: PESO - Better Than a Limo > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 7:25 AM > My partner and I made our annual pilgrimage to Toronto's > Centre > Islands, accessible by a fun ferry ride across the harbour. > On the > ferry ride home this young newlywed couple and a couple of > dozen of > their well-dressed friends kind of stuck out from the usual > picnicker. > I chatted with them for a few minutes and took a few pics > - turned > out their wedding and reception was at one of the > Island's nicer > restaurants. > > This one was actually taken just ~before~ I asked > permission, and > (likely because it's the most candid) it's my > favourite. > > Hope you enjoy: > > http://tinyurl.com/5gt3z7 > > http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SLKofZ2PLOI/C6Y/QhthNLjYaL8/s1600-h/aug_25_08+002.jpg > > cheers, > frank > > > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri > Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Better Than a Limo
Very nice Frank. A nice casual pose. Dave On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 10:25 AM, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My partner and I made our annual pilgrimage to Toronto's Centre > Islands, accessible by a fun ferry ride across the harbour. On the > ferry ride home this young newlywed couple and a couple of dozen of > their well-dressed friends kind of stuck out from the usual picnicker. > I chatted with them for a few minutes and took a few pics - turned > out their wedding and reception was at one of the Island's nicer > restaurants. > > This one was actually taken just ~before~ I asked permission, and > (likely because it's the most candid) it's my favourite. > > Hope you enjoy: > > http://tinyurl.com/5gt3z7 > > http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SLKofZ2PLOI/C6Y/QhthNLjYaL8/s1600-h/aug_25_08+002.jpg > > cheers, > frank > > > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Better Than a Limo
My partner and I made our annual pilgrimage to Toronto's Centre Islands, accessible by a fun ferry ride across the harbour. On the ferry ride home this young newlywed couple and a couple of dozen of their well-dressed friends kind of stuck out from the usual picnicker. I chatted with them for a few minutes and took a few pics - turned out their wedding and reception was at one of the Island's nicer restaurants. This one was actually taken just ~before~ I asked permission, and (likely because it's the most candid) it's my favourite. Hope you enjoy: http://tinyurl.com/5gt3z7 http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SLKofZ2PLOI/C6Y/QhthNLjYaL8/s1600-h/aug_25_08+002.jpg cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Toronto cyclists rejoice!
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's an interesting and slightly strange story about where bicycles > go to die: > > http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/sting-operation-nets- > prolific-toronto-bike-thief-907571.html > > Bob Toronto's bike community has known about Igor for a long long time. In fact, ever since I moved to Toronto in '96 everyone said, "If your bike's been stolen, the first place to check is Igor's." Depending on Igor's mood, he'd actually give it back to the original owner, he'd sell it back for what he paid the thief (most often around $50 to $100), he'd sell it for market value for a used bike, or he'd deny he knew anything about it (even while the thing's sitting on his sales floor). Most often he'd sell it for what he paid the thief, saying "hey, I didn't know it was stolen!" - even though he obviously did. The article you sent is crap - just like all the local newspaper articles. They talk about the police clamping down on bike theft, and the surge in thefts early in the summer and how the cops were so concerned and that's why they suddenly decided to go after him. Truth is that cyclists have been trying to get the police to go after Igor for years. When he first opened he was in the middle of a real down-and-out neighbourhood, and hey, it's not like he was stealing cars or anything, so who really cared? However, over the past four or five years many of the abandonned warehouses and factories have been converted into expensive condos, and suddenly the place is all full of art galleries and fancy bistros and stuff. Now the cops have a reason to "clean the area up" and let the locals know that they live in a safe neighbourhood. Igor had so many bikes he'd have never been able to sell them all - they're now saying well over 3,000, hoarded in the basement, attic, at his house. It seems he could never turn down a stolen bike. Very weird. Now the cops have a huge problem because they'll never be able to find the original owners of all those bikes, and they're going to pay a fortune warehousing them until their next bike auction. Perhaps had they gone after him when they should have, ten or more years ago... Anyway, thanks for an interesting article, Bob. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Psst, Buddy, Need a Rainbow ?
Another sign from my Maui trip; http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7711354 Dan M -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Michael Phelps
There is a much more elaborate version of the Fish Slapping Dance in Spamalot. Dan M On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 4:14 AM, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Bob Sullivan >> Sent: 25 August 2008 03:54 >> To: PDML >> Subject: OT: Michael Phelps >> >> I was surprised to see Michael Phelps on TV from London tonight. >> I thought he was returning to his home in Sea World. >> Regards, Bob S. > > He likes the way we celebrate great sporting achievements: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhJQp-q1Y1s > > Bob > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS Friday: GPS receiver(s)
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008, Paul Sorenson wrote: > Depends a lot upon what GPS unit he's relying upon. I certainly > wouldn't try it with my Garmin Etrex. ;>} > > OTOH, a friend, to whom I give instrument dual instruction occasionally, > has an auto-pilot coupled Garmin, certified for vertical guidance, > installed in his Comanche. You can let the electronics shoot an > approach down to 200 ft and it's right on the money. > > -p > That's the difference right there. A WAAS VNAV-certified GPS has a specific approach programmed into it relative to the GPS-derived altitude solution. That's a whole different beast than comparing indicated pressure-derived altitude to just general GPS-derived altitude while in cruise. -Cory -- * * Cory Papenfuss, Ph.D. Electrical Engineering, PPSEL-IA* * Research Associate, Vibrations and Acoustics Laboratory * * Mechanical Engineering* * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * * -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO:
No, but my wife and I ate at a local seafood place instead. Seafood and Maui just go together. Dan On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 1:48 AM, gldnbearz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, did you both starve? =) Another nice catch. > > Pat > > On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Daniel J. Matyola > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Another sign from Maui, this one on a Mexican restaurant in Makawao: >> >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7711325 > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Slow bike
I never heard (before now, that is) of shattered ankle but definitely heard of shattered egos. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Waller Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 11:51 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Slow bike >I fell, once, when stopping. I leaned on the wrong side (the one where I >wasn't clipped out) and that was silly. I have a friend that did just that & utterly shattered his ankle doing it. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Maxime Thériault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Slow bike I fell, once, when stopping. I leaned on the wrong side (the one where I wasn't clipped out) and that was silly. If you fell doing what you just said, would it be as silly? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Mann Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 4:14 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Slow bike One of these days I should learn to ride the fixie backwards. And learn to trackstand with either foot forward, and one-handed (so I can indicate while balancing). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Toronto cyclists rejoice!
Here's an interesting and slightly strange story about where bicycles go to die: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/sting-operation-nets- prolific-toronto-bike-thief-907571.html Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Michael Phelps
Bob Sullivan wrote: > I was surprised to see Michael Phelps on TV from London tonight. > I thought he was returning to his home in Sea World. Ah, another "Onion" fan! http://www.theonion.com/content/news/michael_phelps_returns_to_his_tank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Michael Phelps
P. J. Alling wrote: > Didn't you know he's the king of Atlantis. > > Bob Sullivan wrote: > >> I was surprised to see Michael Phelps on TV from London tonight. >> I thought he was returning to his home in Sea World. >> Regards, Bob S. >> >> >> > > > Darn him. Stealin' our wimmen folk. Can't blame him, though. D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Zig and Zag
Very good shot. The patterns are very pleasing to the eye Dave On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 7:55 AM, Brian Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all > > An image from a recent walk around the inner Sydney suburb of Glebe. > > Just an interesting shadow pattern on some old sandstone steps. > > > http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/96351/Zig_and_Zag.html > > > Plaudits and raspberries accepted with, more or less, equal > grace.and, > > .in the interests of full disclosure, photoshoppery involved tonal > corrections and just a wee bit of cloning on the top right to remove an > unwanted shadow. > > > > Cheers > > Brian > > ++ > Brian Walters > Western Sydney Australia > http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ > -- > > > -- > http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Next year's PUG
Never broke anything above the equator, but i think a lower extremity is easier to deal with. Broken feet, four times and one toe. Lots of banged up shoulders, knees etc, mostly work related. The arm in a sling sure hampers tuna sandwiches.:-) No guilt here. Erin and i have been trying to get her to quit smoking for years. So far i'm winning the bet. She still smokes and i'v lost 21 pounds. Dave On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 7:04 AM, Anthony Farr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Given the choice between a hand / arm injury and a foot / leg injury (now > that I've experienced both) I'd chose foot anytime. It might limit mobility > more, but at least I can still write, feed myself and attend to my personal > hygiene. > > It sounds like you have some major guilt to pay out. My sympathy goes out > to you, Dave. Thanks for your thoughts. > > Regards, Anthony > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >> David J Brooks >> Sent: Sunday, 24 August 2008 8:26 PM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: Next year's PUG >> >> Bummer Anthony. >> >> The wife has a cast on her left arm now. Result of heading out inj the >> dark for a smoke, and chasing one of our cats that got out. Fell over >> the fire pit she bought at Wal mart. >> Bones slipped and she needed pins placed last Sunday at the hospital. >> >> Still managed to head out for our mini vacation at the first of the month. >> >> This would not have happend if >> 1- She had not bought the fire pit, like i asked.:-) >> 2- I left the door open to long to let the one cat in, that IS allowed > out.:-) >> 3- I had not bugged her enough to take her smoking out side.:-) >> >> I'm the official bag opener and can opener now. >> >> Dave >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Next year's PUG
On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dave, > Our sympathies to her on her injuries. > But don't let her put that on you. > You've got to stand up for husbands everywhere! > Smoking and fire pits are her own fault. > Regards, Bob S. You betchay.:-) At least i have her smoking outside now. The fire pit is put away.:-) Or, is it.Bwaa Haa Haa Dave > > On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 5:25 AM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Bummer Anthony. >> >> The wife has a cast on her left arm now. Result of heading out inj the >> dark for a smoke, and chasing one of our cats that got out. Fell over >> the fire pit she bought at Wal mart. >> Bones slipped and she needed pins placed last Sunday at the hospital. >> >> Still managed to head out for our mini vacation at the first of the month. >> >> This would not have happend if >> 1- She had not bought the fire pit, like i asked.:-) >> 2- I left the door open to long to let the one cat in, that IS allowed >> out.:-) >> 3- I had not bugged her enough to take her smoking out side.:-) >> >> I'm the official bag opener and can opener now. >> >> Dave >> >> On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 1:51 AM, Anthony Farr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: Sunday, 24 August 2008 3:06 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Next year's PUG I must hurt to drop a refrigerator on you foot... You should probably not do that. >>> >>> Not a fridge, thankfully. I rolled my foot over an uneven paving joint a >>> half block from home. My foot rolled left but I fell to the right, and >>> fractured my 5th metatarsal bone. After managing to walk home I made the >>> mistake of removing my shoe instead of going straight to a medical centre. >>> Once sitting down and shoeless, the only way out of the house was in an >>> ambulance. >>> >>> Regards, Anthony >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Equine Photography >> www.caughtinmotion.com >> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ >> Ontario Canada >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Michael Phelps
He'l be able to buy Sea World in a week or so. Dave On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 10:53 PM, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was surprised to see Michael Phelps on TV from London tonight. > I thought he was returning to his home in Sea World. > Regards, Bob S. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO:
Good one. Dave On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Daniel J. Matyola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another sign from Maui, this one on a Mexican restaurant in Makawao: > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7711325 > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Zoom travel lens
I must be the only one who AF's his macro.:-) Dave On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 2:06 AM, Jens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know what SP550 is. An Olympus camera? > For macro I use and old Tamrom SP 2.5 90mm. Its not auto focus, but who needs > AF for macro? (The later AF SP AF 2.5 90 mm is quite famous for it's > sharpnes). > http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/272258624/ > > It's fine as long as you don't use direct flash, whish creates a blueish > spots in the centre of the images (I wonder why??). > You may get one for less than 100 USD on the used market. > Regards > Jens > > -- > Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. > > On Aug 24, 2008 00:30 "MikeM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Last week I bought a Pentax 18-250 lens to use as a travel lens. On >> my last trip I used a K100 with a Sigma 18-50 kit lens, and used my >> sp550 for long shots and videos and was planning to use the new lens >> on my K10 for my next trip. I have been testing it on my K10 on >> various subjects and conditions since then. Close ups of very small >> objects like spiders are the main problem with it. For very small >> objects I get better results with my SP550, which can get good >> results with a lot of cropping. I have a Pentax 18-55 and a Tamron >> 70-300 that I have been using at home. Should I be able to get good >> colseups with the 18-250 lens? I would like to get a macro but as >> with the faster lens than the 18-250 it is out of my reach for now. >> >> Thanks >> Mike >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Michael Phelps
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Bob Sullivan > Sent: 25 August 2008 03:54 > To: PDML > Subject: OT: Michael Phelps > > I was surprised to see Michael Phelps on TV from London tonight. > I thought he was returning to his home in Sea World. > Regards, Bob S. He likes the way we celebrate great sporting achievements: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhJQp-q1Y1s Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
