RE: Completely OT: money
Know the feeling Doug - I recently received a gift from a friend in the states - an 1821 one penny coin from the Island of St. Helena. Some of you may recall that this was the year and the place where Napoleon Bonaparte died, and I once lived there too. It felt really weird to know that that coin was probably in circulation in the very shops where the company I worked for had been, and still was, trading. John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Franklin Sent: Saturday, 13 September 2008 3:49 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Completely OT: money [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saved all of them until I started needing money to fund my teenage adventures. I sold them to a local coin store. I reall that I got over twenty bucks for about 100 Indian Head pennies. Wow, I'll bet. I don't what they'd be worth in cash these days, but they'd be invaluable regardless. Maybe I'm strange, but being able to hold an artifact like that in my hand, I feel much more of a connection with the time. There's something about physical artifacts, especially ones made of precious or heavy metals, that just speaks to me. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rumors of a 17mp Pentax DSLR
AFAIK there never was any EXIF present, that *is* the problem. The question remains however -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: panasonic's new micro four/thirds camera: G1
First, magazines hammered Pentax because they were slow going to a bayonet mount - IIRC, every review of pre-bayonet lenses in the years after everybody else had gone bayonet mentioned the slow lens change problem. Then when the bayonet mount came out, the criticisms went to you've obsoleted all our lenses! A no-win situation for Pentax, even though they had provided a way to use the screw-mounts with the K-adaptor John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 12 September 2008 11:28 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: panasonic's new micro four/thirds camera: G1 On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 3:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to me however, that it is a nice attempt and that in a couple months this micro4/3 may indeed be a very interesting market segment. The whole M4/3 system is still walks in baby-shoes. In 1975 when Pentax created the Pentax K bayonett all of the older Pentax lenses (M42 Taks) was useable with limitations... Did anyone complain? :) Pentax Forum. Dave I mean back in 1975... :D Pentax Forum will always complain about something :D That's why we use Pentax... we want to get to perfection as close as possible :D But since we can't get to the total perfection we complain! No camera is perfect, but Pentax is pretty close :D :D :D .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Completely OT: money
I spend someone else money! -- Cheers, Cotty On 13/9/08, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: The United States of Cotty? ... or I guess technically it'd be the United Kingdom of Cotty ... The Great Kingdom of Visa. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: For Sale Friday
On 13/9/08, keith_w, discombobulated, unleashed: I'll trade you straight across for a like-new Vivitar 19mm f/3.5, Pentax KA/Ricoh lens, or give you $125 PayPal. For which lens? If you mean the K50 and hood it's yours. If you mean the A20, then there will likely follow some medical terminology relating to digestive tracts and the placement of irritating objects therein. ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: panasonic's new micro four/thirds camera: G1
Screwdriver AF doesn't require a lens to be compatible with any particular mode of AF control. Hell, it doesn't even need any embedded electronics associated with focusing, save for distance reporting not critical to focus operation. These lenses can just be dumb mechanisms following the camera body's instructions. Compatibility is no issue at all. Focus by wire is entirely a different kettle of fish. The lens is an integral part of the 'brain' of the system, and who other than the designers knows what requirements need to be fulfilled. But I can offer this observation. My old EVF style camera has CDAF focusing. When it focuses, the gross movements happen at a fast motor speed, but when it approaches correct focus the motor slows considerably for the last fine focusing. Clearly, this focusing motor has variable speeds. My DSLR is the bottom feeder model from Olympus, the E-410 which has only PDAF (CDAF not being added until the 420 mode, AF during live view is achieved by a quick mirror flip into reflex view, and back into live view all in about a second). Even considering the humble status of this camera, the AF flies like shit off a shovel. It will snap into focus in a trice with no hunting. But my observation is that the motors in the two consumer zooms I have run only at a single high speed. I'm guessing that CDAF needs AF motors that slow down as they approach correct focus, and that the cheaper lenses weren't enabled for this mode in their original firmware versions. Someone with the better 4/3 lenses might comment on their operation. IMO this thread is a storm in a teacup, because Olympus has issued firmware updates to enable CDAF in live view with the incompatible lenses. Problem solved. Regards, Anthony Farr -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: Sunday, 14 September 2008 7:17 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: panasonic's new micro four/thirds camera: G1 When everybody elses lensed designed years before Live View and CDAF work just fine? Yup. Canon and Nikon had much more significant hurdles to get 20 year old lenses to AF with CDAF than Oly did with at most 5 year old lenses designed for a focus-by-wire application like CDAF. Nikon, with it's obsolete screwdriver-drive AF pulled it off, and both Nikon and Canon have achieved it on lens-motor based lenses, despite their specs dating back to ancient times (the Nikon lens-motor control spec dates to 1983, the Canon to 1987). Wasn't 4/3rds supposed to be the 'modern, future-proof' mount? I don't expect the same level of AF speed from the older lenses as the new ones designed for the application, but the bloody things should be able to AF in the first place. Especially since Olympus designed them to be firmware-upgradable. Frankly I doubt this is even an engineering issue per se. More likely it's just a budgeting issue and they didn't spend the money to implement the necessary support either in the bodies or via firmware upgrades. Heck, despite all that I'm still enthused for the G1 and am seriously considering buying one once the 20/1.7 becomes available. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Italian bike pr0n
Here are a couple of my favourite bike-pr0n sites :) http://www.fyxomatosis.com/ http://www.llewellynbikes.com/main.htm - Dave On Sep 13, 2008, at 3:48 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Some really nice pix (scroll way down page for galleries) ... http://www.raydobbins.com/ Bargain basement equipment used: $35 Sears worklights, old PS cameras ... http://www.raydobbins.com/photosetup.htm -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - A Horse of a Different Colour
On Sep 13, 2008, at 3:20 AM, frank theriault wrote: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/09/cheval-of-different-colour.html I'd love one of these things - until repair time, I suspect... I used to work with someone who had a 2CV. It wasn't entirely reliable :) - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rumors of a 17mp Pentax DSLR
On Sep 13, 2008, at 4:28 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Yep, that's what I said. Not a peep here though. Damn what's happened to us? 645D? :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: For Sale Friday
On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 4:25 AM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13/9/08, keith_w, discombobulated, unleashed: I'll trade you straight across for a like-new Vivitar 19mm f/3.5, Pentax KA/Ricoh lens, or give you $125 PayPal. For which lens? If you mean the K50 and hood it's yours. If you mean the A20, then there will likely follow some medical terminology relating to digestive tracts and the placement of irritating objects therein. Food fight, Dave ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
who bought all the Tamron AF 70-200mm f/2.8 Di LD IF Macro Lenses?
I got a note from Amazon on Wednesday that this lens had finally arrived for Pentax. When I finally looked yesterday, they were all gone. It looks like a good competitor for the Sigma and it's a little less money. Cory -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rumors of a 17mp Pentax DSLR
Joseph Tainter wrote: Joseph Tainter wrote: That rumor showed up on dpreview several days ago, and perhaps elsewhere too. It was shown to be a misinterpretation: A standard 14 mp image resampled in ACR to 17 mp. Ah! I suspected as much! How was it shown to be an up-rezzed image? EXIF data? I guess someone found exif data that read 17 mp. Several posts joyously proclaimed a new Samsung sensor and congratulated the OP. Then someone pointed out that ACR for the K20D has some option to automatically resample an image to 17 mp. That seemed to kill the discussion, and I haven't seen the thread on page one since. Sounds like the proof that it's not from a 17-megapixel sensor is every bit as speculative as the evidence that it was from a 17-megapixel sensor. Par for the course... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - A Horse of a Different Colour
David Mann wrote: On Sep 13, 2008, at 3:20 AM, frank theriault wrote: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/09/cheval-of-different-colour.html I'd love one of these things - until repair time, I suspect... I used to work with someone who had a 2CV. It wasn't entirely reliable :) - Dave Which makes easy repairs so essential... -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rumors of a 17mp Pentax DSLR
David Mann wrote: On Sep 13, 2008, at 4:28 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Yep, that's what I said. Not a peep here though. Damn what's happened to us? 645D? :) Naa, that was up to 32mp last it was heard from... -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: For Sale Friday
David J Brooks wrote: On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 4:25 AM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13/9/08, keith_w, discombobulated, unleashed: I'll trade you straight across for a like-new Vivitar 19mm f/3.5, Pentax KA/Ricoh lens, or give you $125 PayPal. For which lens? If you mean the K50 and hood it's yours. If you mean the A20, then there will likely follow some medical terminology relating to digestive tracts and the placement of irritating objects therein. Food fight, Dave Hey Dave LOOK! - Boysenberries Pie( ( ( [ [ [ SPLAT ] ] ] ) ) ) ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Completely OT: money
From: John Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Know the feeling Doug - I recently received a gift from a friend in the states - an 1821 one penny coin from the Island of St. Helena. Some of you may recall that this was the year and the place where Napoleon Bonaparte died, and I once lived there too. It felt really weird to know that that coin was probably in circulation in the very shops where the company I worked for had been, and still was, trading. John Coyle Brisbane, Australia That's a cool story. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Completely OT: money
On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 4:22 AM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I spend someone else money! -- Cheers, Cotty On 13/9/08, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: The United States of Cotty? ... or I guess technically it'd be the United Kingdom of Cotty ... The Great Kingdom of Visa. Who's motto is 21% is not really high. Dave -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SEB fall marathon 2008...
http://roman.blakout.net/?year=2008s=0category=actionsportblog=20080914155350 ^^^ One amazing thing about photography is that you can analyze the moment. I'd uoloaded pictures from the SEB fall 2008 marathon in Tallinn and I'm amazed by the number of cheaters. You can see 75 year old daddy running with the number beklongeth to a guy born 1976. Take a look at entire selection of sets for yourself... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rumors of a 17mp Pentax DSLR
On 14/9/08, David Mann, discombobulated, unleashed: 645D? :) So someone did wake up at a quarter to seven after all. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rumors of a 17mp Pentax DSLR
On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 9:52 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Mann wrote: On Sep 13, 2008, at 4:28 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Yep, that's what I said. Not a peep here though. Damn what's happened to us? 645D? :) Naa, that was up to 32mp last it was heard from... 33MP actually, same sensor as the Leaf 33MP backs. 17MP would be unlikely unless the 645D was going to be in 35mm price territory (under $5k USD). A 645D would almost assuredly use one of the current MF sensors, which are mostly 22MP+. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: SEB fall marathon 2008...
beklongeth? hast thou from days of yore thine e-missive gesended, when full many a word with -eth did end? Mayhap yonder aged runner alike hath dithappeared down a timewarp and regaineth the strength of hith youth. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roman Melihhov Sent: 14 September 2008 15:37 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: SEB fall marathon 2008... http://roman.blakout.net/?year=2008s=0category=actionsportb log=20080914155350 ^^^ One amazing thing about photography is that you can analyze the moment. I'd uoloaded pictures from the SEB fall 2008 marathon in Tallinn and I'm amazed by the number of cheaters. You can see 75 year old daddy running with the number beklongeth to a guy born 1976. Take a look at entire selection of sets for yourself... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rumors of a 17mp Pentax DSLR
I wake up at quarter *past* six routinely ;-). Cotty wrote: On 14/9/08, David Mann, discombobulated, unleashed: 645D? :) So someone did wake up at a quarter to seven after all. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Disturbing News
Bob Blakely wrote: I usually buy my gear from Samy's as they have a local store just down the road in Santa Ana. I stopped in to pick up another walking around bag and found that all the Pentax gear is now gone from their shelves. The have only left over stock. It's not that they don't want to sell Pentax. It's because they can't get a hold of any reps to deal with because Pentax USA has (as the folks at Samy's told me) let all their reps go. What the bloody hell is happening to Pentax (Hoya)? Are they rolling over? Are we eventually going to be left high and dry because someone, somewhere doesn't have the guts to market Pentax effectually? Move over Minolta, Konica users. If this keeps up we'll be joining you down memory lane. Old news: http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2008/04/pentax-sky-offi.html The dealer may not have been entirely truthful to you about this being the *reason* they aren't carrying Pentax any longer, because several other camera makers have moved to this sales structure (that is, by type/size of retailer rather than by geographic location) some time ago. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Disturbing News
I imagine we'll get some sort of indication as Photokina takes place in a couple weeks. Jack --- On Sun, 9/14/08, Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Disturbing News To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Sunday, September 14, 2008, 9:15 AM I usually buy my gear from Samy's as they have a local store just down the road in Santa Ana. I stopped in to pick up another walking around bag and found that all the Pentax gear is now gone from their shelves. The have only left over stock. It's not that they don't want to sell Pentax. It's because they can't get a hold of any reps to deal with because Pentax USA has (as the folks at Samy's told me) let all their reps go. What the bloody hell is happening to Pentax (Hoya)? Are they rolling over? Are we eventually going to be left high and dry because someone, somewhere doesn't have the guts to market Pentax effectually? Move over Minolta, Konica users. If this keeps up we'll be joining you down memory lane. Regards Bob... --- I don't mind if you don't like my manners. I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad. I grieve over them long winter evenings. -- Philip Marlowe (Humphrey Bogart) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 7th anniversary of Sept 11th Attacks
Very sad day indeed. Boris Bob Sullivan wrote: Sad anniversary here in the USA today. Many innocent people died at the hands of fanatics, just working dads and moms... Now we are caught in a vicious cycle of paying them back. I honor the heroes who tried to save them that day, and respect those who are the instruments of our vengeance. I'm sorry for those who suffer because of it. Just some thoughts from somebody who opposed the Vietnam War in its day, on this sad day. Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The PDML Bike Curse Continues
Frank, please pass our best wishes of speedy and *complete* recovery to your daughter. Boris frank theriault wrote: Not me, but I wish it was. Yesterday my eldest (she's 26) was riding home from school (she just started an intense ASL Interpreter course at a local college) when her back wheel got caught in a streetcar track. She went down, landed awkwardly on her leg and fractured her tibia (shin bone) just below her patella (knee). It will require surgery (plates and screws and all that) and she's just kind of hanging around (as an inpatient) waiting for an operating room. Othopaedic surgeries are done mid-afternoon to about 11pm, but due to the non-life-threatening nature of her injury, she's not too high on the list it seems; hopefully in a day or two. She's heard different stories as to the timeframe for convalescing, anywhere from 6 weeks to 3 months. Luckily she's young and in pretty good shape, so her prognosis is good. It could have been worse to be sure, and she's taking it like a trooper, but she's not too comfortable right now. I feel responsible, being a PDML member. Obviously the PDML Bike Curse is communicable (or perhaps genetic)... ;-) cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: SEB fall marathon 2008...
From: Roman Melihhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://roman.blakout.net/?year=2008s=0category=actionsportblog=20080914155350 ^^^ One amazing thing about photography is that you can analyze the moment. I'd uoloaded pictures from the SEB fall 2008 marathon in Tallinn and I'm amazed by the number of cheaters. You can see 75 year old daddy running with the number beklongeth to a guy born 1976. Take a look at entire selection of sets for yourself... I looked, but I just don't see it ... unless you're talking about the kid with #80. I'm guessing what looks like years in the caption is the year they were born? And if that's the case, I think it's probably a misprint; should have been 1982, not 1962. Or maybe the year's correct and he just looks a whole lot more youthful at age 46 than I did. Wonder if he's got an old, decrepit portrait locked away somewhere? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Disturbing News
Mark Roberts wrote: Bob Blakely wrote: I usually buy my gear from Samy's as they have a local store just down the road in Santa Ana. I stopped in to pick up another walking around bag and found that all the Pentax gear is now gone from their shelves. The have only left over stock. It's not that they don't want to sell Pentax. It's because they can't get a hold of any reps to deal with because Pentax USA has (as the folks at Samy's told me) let all their reps go. What the bloody hell is happening to Pentax (Hoya)? Are they rolling over? Are we eventually going to be left high and dry because someone, somewhere doesn't have the guts to market Pentax effectually? Move over Minolta, Konica users. If this keeps up we'll be joining you down memory lane. Old news: http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2008/04/pentax-sky-offi.html The dealer may not have been entirely truthful to you about this being the *reason* they aren't carrying Pentax any longer, because several other camera makers have moved to this sales structure (that is, by type/size of retailer rather than by geographic location) some time ago. I read it and sort of understand, but to be blunt, and perfectly clear about it, if the walk-in customer decides s/he is NOT served by the odd changes in marketing and servicing of old Pentax customers, he is just as likely to decide this might be the time to change the camera line... I question any tack that makes customers worry and wonder about the health of their chosen line of camera gear. Pentax have been pretty quiet as to what long term customers might expect from thie merger, and what little I have read, here and there has NOT been light and upbeat about it. I think that's a serious error in judgment. keith whaley -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Disturbing News
keith_w wrote: I question any tack that makes customers worry and wonder about the health of their chosen line of camera gear. Good luck finding one that doesn't. You know how Pentax users are ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Disturbing News
I had noticed the same thing at a local retailer. Unfortunately it looks like Pentax may be abandoning low volume retailers. Mark Roberts wrote: Bob Blakely wrote: I usually buy my gear from Samy's as they have a local store just down the road in Santa Ana. I stopped in to pick up another walking around bag and found that all the Pentax gear is now gone from their shelves. The have only left over stock. It's not that they don't want to sell Pentax. It's because they can't get a hold of any reps to deal with because Pentax USA has (as the folks at Samy's told me) let all their reps go. What the bloody hell is happening to Pentax (Hoya)? Are they rolling over? Are we eventually going to be left high and dry because someone, somewhere doesn't have the guts to market Pentax effectually? Move over Minolta, Konica users. If this keeps up we'll be joining you down memory lane. Old news: http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2008/04/pentax-sky-offi.html The dealer may not have been entirely truthful to you about this being the *reason* they aren't carrying Pentax any longer, because several other camera makers have moved to this sales structure (that is, by type/size of retailer rather than by geographic location) some time ago. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Disturbing News
Samy's is a large outfit carrying top o' the line Nikon, Canon, Hasselblad, et., as well as all varieties of PS cameras. Further, they have a large web presence. They provide processing for professionals as well as equipment rental (lighting, cameras, backdrops, etc.) They are not Ritz. Regards Bob... --- I don't mind if you don't like my manners. I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad. I grieve over them long winter evenings. -- Philip Marlowe (Humphrey Bogart) From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bob Blakely wrote: I usually buy my gear from Samy's as they have a local store just down the road in Santa Ana. I stopped in to pick up another walking around bag and found that all the Pentax gear is now gone from their shelves. The have only left over stock. It's not that they don't want to sell Pentax. It's because they can't get a hold of any reps to deal with because Pentax USA has (as the folks at Samy's told me) let all their reps go. What the bloody hell is happening to Pentax (Hoya)? Are they rolling over? Are we eventually going to be left high and dry because someone, somewhere doesn't have the guts to market Pentax effectually? Move over Minolta, Konica users. If this keeps up we'll be joining you down memory lane. Old news: http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2008/04/pentax-sky-offi.html The dealer may not have been entirely truthful to you about this being the *reason* they aren't carrying Pentax any longer, because several other camera makers have moved to this sales structure (that is, by type/size of retailer rather than by geographic location) some time ago. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: PC (Windows) question
Are you sure the files were in use? Once loaded into memory the DLL should remain locked. Boris Liberman wrote: Well, it turns out that you're wrong, Peter. I tried it today at work and it worked. The problem however, seems to have been solved by a managerial decision to not copy any files while the system is up and running. The files are going to be copied only after it has been ensured that the system is completely inoperative. Boris P. J. Alling wrote: Unlike UNIX Windows won't let you rename files that are in use. They're locked until the process exits. Boris Liberman wrote: This idea did not occur to me. I'll try it and report back. The older files can be deleted at any time, say, off-line by separate command of the human being... Boris John Francis wrote: On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 06:47:43PM +0300, Boris Liberman wrote: However, I don't intend to *install* updates. All I need is to copy certain files from certain location(s) to the respective destination location(s)... The way to handle this on a Unix box would be to rename the old (open) file, then copy over the new ones. I haven't tried renaming an open file on Windows, so I don't know if that works. It shouldn't be too hard to test, though. That still leaves unsolved the problem of deleting the older files. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Disturbing News
Samy's is very high volumn for top o' the line mid range equipment. Regards Bob... --- I don't mind if you don't like my manners. I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad. I grieve over them long winter evenings. -- Philip Marlowe (Humphrey Bogart) From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] I had noticed the same thing at a local retailer. Unfortunately it looks like Pentax may be abandoning low volume retailers. Mark Roberts wrote: Bob Blakely wrote: I usually buy my gear from Samy's as they have a local store just down the road in Santa Ana. I stopped in to pick up another walking around bag and found that all the Pentax gear is now gone from their shelves. The have only left over stock. It's not that they don't want to sell Pentax. It's because they can't get a hold of any reps to deal with because Pentax USA has (as the folks at Samy's told me) let all their reps go. What the bloody hell is happening to Pentax (Hoya)? Are they rolling over? Are we eventually going to be left high and dry because someone, somewhere doesn't have the guts to market Pentax effectually? Move over Minolta, Konica users. If this keeps up we'll be joining you down memory lane. Old news: http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2008/04/pentax-sky-offi.html The dealer may not have been entirely truthful to you about this being the *reason* they aren't carrying Pentax any longer, because several other camera makers have moved to this sales structure (that is, by type/size of retailer rather than by geographic location) some time ago. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Disturbing News
I'm not sure what the definition of Low Volume is. However BH and Adorama seem to be able to get Pentax to sell. I used the quotes to indicate irony... Bob Blakely wrote: Samy's is very high volumn for top o' the line mid range equipment. Regards Bob... --- I don't mind if you don't like my manners. I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad. I grieve over them long winter evenings. -- Philip Marlowe (Humphrey Bogart) From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] I had noticed the same thing at a local retailer. Unfortunately it looks like Pentax may be abandoning low volume retailers. Mark Roberts wrote: Bob Blakely wrote: I usually buy my gear from Samy's as they have a local store just down the road in Santa Ana. I stopped in to pick up another walking around bag and found that all the Pentax gear is now gone from their shelves. The have only left over stock. It's not that they don't want to sell Pentax. It's because they can't get a hold of any reps to deal with because Pentax USA has (as the folks at Samy's told me) let all their reps go. What the bloody hell is happening to Pentax (Hoya)? Are they rolling over? Are we eventually going to be left high and dry because someone, somewhere doesn't have the guts to market Pentax effectually? Move over Minolta, Konica users. If this keeps up we'll be joining you down memory lane. Old news: http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2008/04/pentax-sky-offi.html The dealer may not have been entirely truthful to you about this being the *reason* they aren't carrying Pentax any longer, because several other camera makers have moved to this sales structure (that is, by type/size of retailer rather than by geographic location) some time ago. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Disturbing News
That's where I got my spare (black) MX - from their bargain shelf (the meter wasn't working). I'd stopped in to pick up some of the new Provia 400 film (only released a week or so before), and made the mistake of looking in the used equipment section. On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 11:39:36AM -0700, Bob Blakely wrote: Samy's is a large outfit carrying top o' the line Nikon, Canon, Hasselblad, et., as well as all varieties of PS cameras. Further, they have a large web presence. They provide processing for professionals as well as equipment rental (lighting, cameras, backdrops, etc.) They are not Ritz. Regards Bob... --- I don't mind if you don't like my manners. I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad. I grieve over them long winter evenings. -- Philip Marlowe (Humphrey Bogart) From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bob Blakely wrote: I usually buy my gear from Samy's as they have a local store just down the road in Santa Ana. I stopped in to pick up another walking around bag and found that all the Pentax gear is now gone from their shelves. The have only left over stock. It's not that they don't want to sell Pentax. It's because they can't get a hold of any reps to deal with because Pentax USA has (as the folks at Samy's told me) let all their reps go. What the bloody hell is happening to Pentax (Hoya)? Are they rolling over? Are we eventually going to be left high and dry because someone, somewhere doesn't have the guts to market Pentax effectually? Move over Minolta, Konica users. If this keeps up we'll be joining you down memory lane. Old news: http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2008/04/pentax-sky-offi.html The dealer may not have been entirely truthful to you about this being the *reason* they aren't carrying Pentax any longer, because several other camera makers have moved to this sales structure (that is, by type/size of retailer rather than by geographic location) some time ago. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: panasonic's new micro four/thirds camera: G1
thanks anthony. you wrote what i was going to. the ZD 35 Macro and ZD 25 focus quickly but with nowhere near the speed and silence of the Olympus pro-class lenses I have (ZD 11-22/2.8-3.5, ZD 50-200/2.8-3.5) or Panasonic/Leica lenses (Vario- Elmarit-D 14-50/2.8-3.5, Summilux-D 25/1.4). Obviously better quality focusing motors in those four. The newer generation pro lenses with SWD focus drives are much faster and quieter still. of course I haven't seen a Panny G1 body yet (and the optional adapter) to test the two 25s on it. i expect they'll work pretty well however. G On Sep 14, 2008, at 3:13 AM, Anthony Farr wrote: Screwdriver AF doesn't require a lens to be compatible with any particular mode of AF control. Hell, it doesn't even need any embedded electronics associated with focusing, save for distance reporting not critical to focus operation. These lenses can just be dumb mechanisms following the camera body's instructions. Compatibility is no issue at all. Focus by wire is entirely a different kettle of fish. The lens is an integral part of the 'brain' of the system, and who other than the designers knows what requirements need to be fulfilled. But I can offer this observation. My old EVF style camera has CDAF focusing. When it focuses, the gross movements happen at a fast motor speed, but when it approaches correct focus the motor slows considerably for the last fine focusing. Clearly, this focusing motor has variable speeds. My DSLR is the bottom feeder model from Olympus, the E-410 which has only PDAF (CDAF not being added until the 420 mode, AF during live view is achieved by a quick mirror flip into reflex view, and back into live view all in about a second). Even considering the humble status of this camera, the AF flies like shit off a shovel. It will snap into focus in a trice with no hunting. But my observation is that the motors in the two consumer zooms I have run only at a single high speed. I'm guessing that CDAF needs AF motors that slow down as they approach correct focus, and that the cheaper lenses weren't enabled for this mode in their original firmware versions. Someone with the better 4/3 lenses might comment on their operation. IMO this thread is a storm in a teacup, because Olympus has issued firmware updates to enable CDAF in live view with the incompatible lenses. Problem solved. Regards, Anthony Farr -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Disturbing News
P. J. Alling wrote: I had noticed the same thing at a local retailer. Unfortunately it looks like Pentax may be abandoning low volume retailers. Not only. The three SLR brands on sale at the major chain camera shop in one of the biggest UK shopping malls? Canon, Nikon and Sony. Mark Roberts wrote: Bob Blakely wrote: I usually buy my gear from Samy's as they have a local store just down the road in Santa Ana. I stopped in to pick up another walking around bag and found that all the Pentax gear is now gone from their shelves. The have only left over stock. It's not that they don't want to sell Pentax. It's because they can't get a hold of any reps to deal with because Pentax USA has (as the folks at Samy's told me) let all their reps go. What the bloody hell is happening to Pentax (Hoya)? Are they rolling over? Are we eventually going to be left high and dry because someone, somewhere doesn't have the guts to market Pentax effectually? Move over Minolta, Konica users. If this keeps up we'll be joining you down memory lane. Old news: http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2008/04/pentax-sky-offi.html The dealer may not have been entirely truthful to you about this being the *reason* they aren't carrying Pentax any longer, because several other camera makers have moved to this sales structure (that is, by type/size of retailer rather than by geographic location) some time ago. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1671 - Release Date: 14/09/2008 07:16 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Test your Colour IQ
On 14-Sep-08, at 5:27 PM, David Savage wrote: http://www.xrite.com/custom_page.aspx?PageID=77 0 is a perfect score I scored 38, using a 4 year old Apple Powerbook 12. My eyes are pretty tired now! Mike -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
