Re: Tokina & Hoya (was PhotographyBlog: Pentax Interview, quiteinteresting)

[Dario Bonazza]

Ira H. Bryant IV wrote:

In Japan, it is very common for a company to hold another company's stock. 
That's especially true when one company is a supplier to another company. 
It seems likely to me that this is true of Hoya and Tokina, though I don't 
know where a person could go to check on it.


1) We all know that Pentax has been integrated into Hoya. Pentax Imaging is 
actually a division of Hoya Corporation.

See: http://www.hoya.co.jp/english/company/company_02_03.html

2) It is also quite evident that Tokina, Kenko and Slik are the same 
company.

See: http://www.kenko-tokina.co.jp/

Then, it seems that there is a close close relationship between Tokina and 
Hoya, which should remain different companies tough.
That does not prevent Tokina to be owned by Hoya. Heck, they even sell the 
same product with the same name! See "Pro1 D" line of filters, available as 
Kenko (brand used in Japan) and as Hoya (brand used worldwide).


Also, quoting from photography on the net 
(http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=346581):


"THK Photo Products, Inc. is the U.S. distributor for Tokina Co., Ltd. 
(Tokyo), one of the top manufacturers of converter lenses for the 35mm 
single-lens reflex camera, for all products of the camera accessory 
manufacturer, Kenko Co., Ltd. (Tokyo), camera filters of the worldly 
prestigious brand of HOYA Corporation (Tokyo). and the most copied line of 
tripods today.SLIK Corporation (Tokyo).


"Having Tokina Optical Corporation as its core, a successful merge with 
Kenko Optics of America took place in June of 1993. As a consequence to the 
merge, the company has been renamed to its present name of T (Tokina), H 
(Hoya), K (Kenko) Photo Products, Inc.


"As we continue to commit to our current distribution of camera products, we 
also strive to expand in the area of industrial equipment and mass media 
optical products, further providing extensive services as the leading 
optical products manufacturer in the world."


Some more hints:

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=417883

http://www.thkphoto.com/

At the end, I don't know who owns who, to which extent, etc, but all above 
companies must be related.


Dario 



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Re: PhotographyBlog: Pentax Interview, quite interesting (Samsung deal etc.)

[John Celio]

 - Cotty won't have to eat his hat and the rest of us won't have to
re-invest in new 35mm lenses.


Most of mine are 35mm.


Er, I meant digital-optimized 35mm lenses (like the D-FA macros).

All I know is, the DA lenses I own or have used perform immensely better 
than older 35mm lenses on digital.  I'm a BIG fan of the DA line, and would 
not like to have to go back to 35mm-format lenses.


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Re: PESO: Farmacia

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I know what you mean about the gentleman.  I waited quite a while for
him to move on, but he didn't.  So, I settled for a moment when he was
looking at the door in anticipation, waiting for whomever was inside
shopping.  This was really all the facade there was;  below what you
see in the photo is, IIRC, bare concrete or something else
unattractive and uninteresting.

I was uncertain about including the yellow awning and blue ice cream
case at the right;  they add color and expand the scene a bit, but
they also distract somewhat from the main focus of the shot.

Thanks for your comments.

Dan M

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 9:22 PM, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I like the colors and the top 3/4 of the composition; but the guy who is 
> amputated at the hips in the lower left detracts, and I want to see the 
> bottom of the facade.
>
> Rick
>
> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
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>> From: Daniel J. Matyola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: PESO: Farmacia
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 3:13 PM
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4452215&size=md
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Re: PESO: Avian Runes

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks for looking and commenting.

Dan M

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> Me too. I like the composition, lighting, and color. Nice.
>
> Rick
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> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
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> --- On Thu, 9/18/08, Daniel J. Matyola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> I don't know exactly why this interested me, but it did:
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>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7829197
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Re: Ano 1720

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks for looking and thanks for your kind comments.

Dan M

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> Hi Dan:  Love the colors!  The light that Ken mentioned doesn't bother me
> that much--but it would probably look better without  it.  Anyway,  very
> nice shot.  Cheers, Christine
>
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Re: PESO: Ano 1720

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I cropped it to incorporate some of these suggestions:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7923073

Dan M

On Mon, Sep 29,I 2008 at 3:12 PM, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What Ken said. Also, many a shot of this ilk, works well centered in the 
> frame.
>
> Jack
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>> Subject: PESO: Ano 1720
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
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Re: Tokina & Hoya (was PhotographyBlog: Pentax Interview, quite interesting)

[Ira H. Bryant IV]

In Japan, it is very common for a company to hold another company's stock. 
That's especially true when one company is a supplier to another company. It 
seems likely to me that this is true of Hoya and Tokina, though I don't know 
where a person could go to check on it.

Ira


On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:57:36 -0700 (PDT)
Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If you go to http://www.hoya.co.jp, Pentax is listed as a subsidiary but not 
> Tokina.  Searching the site for "Tokina" gets zero hits.
> 
> Wikipedia and a few other sites indicate that Hoya supplies glass to Tokina, 
> but that Tokina is an independent company.
> 
> Rick
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> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
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Re: PESO: Avian Runes

[Rick Womer]

Me too. I like the composition, lighting, and color. Nice.

Rick

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--- On Thu, 9/18/08, Daniel J. Matyola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I don't know exactly why this interested me, but it did:
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> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7829197
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> Comments welcome.
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Re: Tokina & Hoya (was PhotographyBlog: Pentax Interview, quite interesting)

[Rick Womer]

If you go to http://www.hoya.co.jp, Pentax is listed as a subsidiary but not 
Tokina.  Searching the site for "Tokina" gets zero hits.

Wikipedia and a few other sites indicate that Hoya supplies glass to Tokina, 
but that Tokina is an independent company.

Rick

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> 
> (snip)
> One surprising comment at the end of the interview refers
> to Tokina as  
> a subsidiary of Hoya.  I thought that we had determined
> that Tokina  
> was an independent company.  Wonder if the article is
> correct on this  
> point?
> Regards, Jim
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Re: PESO: BWI Window

[ann sanfedele]

a good candidate for the October PUG :-)

ann

Rick Womer wrote:


A Godfrey moment overtook me as I waited for a flight at Baltimore-Washington 
International Airport.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7922416&size=lg

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Re: PESO: Soccer Practice

[Rick Womer]

Thanks Bruce, Dave, and Dave.  I shot several more pix of the practice, but 
it's an urban park and the backgrounds were very distracting; so I chose a shot 
with no background!

Rick

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--- On Sun, 9/28/08, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: PESO: Soccer Practice
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Sunday, September 28, 2008, 2:29 PM
> I like the almost identical stance.
> 
> Well spotted.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dave
> 
> 2008/9/28 Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > There was a Youth Soccer Program practice going on in
> the park across from our house this morning.
> >
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Re: PhotographyBlog: Pentax Interview, quite interesting (Samsung deal etc.)

[Jim King]

John Celio wrote on Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:43:14 -0700


http://www.photographyblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/pentax_and_samsung_partnership_not_perfect/

Sounds like a lot of good news.


(snip)
One surprising comment at the end of the interview refers to Tokina as  
a subsidiary of Hoya.  I thought that we had determined that Tokina  
was an independent company.  Wonder if the article is correct on this  
point?

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Re: Sorta Semi OT: Grandfather Mountain

[Rick Womer]

Nothing having to do with GFM is =ever= the slightest bit OT on this list.

Rick

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> The State of North Carolina purchased Grandfather
> Mountain for $12 million dollars today.
> 
> The Morton family will continue to operate the nature
> center, wildlife
> habitat and swinging bridge through a new nonprofit group,
> but 2600 
> acres of undeveloped land, along with a 600 acre
> conservation easement 
> will become a new state park.
> 
> http://www.newsobserver.com/print/sunday/city_state/story/1235214.html
> 
> > The $12 million deal also gives the state a
> conservation easement on
> > the 600-acre park area, popular with visitors for its
> Mile High
> > Swinging Bridge, nature museum and animal habitat that
> includes the
> > mountain's beloved bears. The deal, to be
> announced Monday, is meant
> > to protect the land and its abundant wildlife and
> vegetation from
> > development.
> > 
> > That was a lifelong mission of Hugh Morton, who
> inherited the
> > mountain in 1952 and transformed the state's
> distinctive peak into a
> > leading tourist attraction while preserving its wild
> beauty. The
> > family will continue operating the park through a new
> nonprofit group
> > that could further enhance conservation efforts, his
> grandson, Crae
> > Morton, said Saturday.
> > 
> > "Grandfather Mountain is protected for good, over
> and done, period,"
> > said the younger Morton, who is president of
> Grandfather Mountain
> > Inc. "That's the way it should be.
> Grandfather Mountain is too
> > significant to have any potential for anyone ever to
> ruin it."
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Re: Interesting bit of Trivia

[Rick Womer]

Yup. Read that a few places.  The Contax N bombed because of image quality 
problems.  If only...

Rick

--- On Mon, 9/29/08, John Sessoms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Y'all probably already knew this ... I may have
> forgotten it.
> 
> Reading an article on full-frame DSLRs today, and it said
> the *FIRST* FF 
> DSLR was Pentax's MZ-D 6MP prototype shown at Photokina
> and PMA in 2001.
> 
> First PRODUCTION FF DSLR was the Contax N Digital, using
> the same 
> Phillips CCD image chip.
> 
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> the article suggested it 
> might have been due more to poor image quality that
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Re: PESO: Farmacia

[Rick Womer]

I like the colors and the top 3/4 of the composition; but the guy who is 
amputated at the hips in the lower left detracts, and I want to see the bottom 
of the facade.

Rick

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PESO: BWI Window

[Rick Womer]

A Godfrey moment overtook me as I waited for a flight at Baltimore-Washington 
International Airport.

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RE: PhotographyBlog: Pentax Interview, quite interesting (Samsung deal etc.)

[JC OConnell]

ALL of my dozens of lenses are 35mm, save for a few 4x5 and 8x10
Format lenses. I haven't bought any DA's yet. No real need to up to
This point

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2008/9/30 John Celio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  - Cotty won't have to eat his hat and the rest of us won't have to
> re-invest in new 35mm lenses.

Most of mine are 35mm.

DS

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Re: Confusion Clarified

[Bruce Dayton]

Well, YOU'RE WRONG!!!  

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JS> But I remember, when Hoya bought Pentax, mentioning that Hoya already
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JS> Tokina, they just had a marketing deal with Tokina here in the USA.

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Re: GFM sold

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From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I don't see how a bunch of people walking around a nature preserver
area, already paved, is in danger from the state of NC. But then
again, i have no experience with the US Parks.

I could see the camping for the two weekends stopped, but maybe Crae
and family might keep that.


Based on the precedent established in the takeover of Chimney Rock and 
it's inclusion into the Chimney Rock State Park, I don't think y'all got 
anything to worry about.


The Morton family are forming a non-profit corporation to continue 
operating the "developed" part of Grandfather Mountain - the mile high 
bridge, animal habitats and other existing attractions - in the way it's 
been operating for years.


This is mainly a deal to KEEP Grandfather Mountain the way it is. It 
brings a lot of tourism dollars into NC, so why would the state want to 
screw that up?.


All of the special programs at Grandfather Mountain, including the 
photography weekends, mean a lot of money to NC; more than just the few 
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Re: PhotographyBlog: Pentax Interview, quite interesting (Samsung deal etc.)

[P. J. Alling]

David Savage wrote:

2008/9/30 John Celio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  

 - Cotty won't have to eat his hat and the rest of us won't have to
re-invest in new 35mm lenses.



Most of mine are 35mm.
  

All of mine so far...

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Re: PhotographyBlog: Pentax Interview, quite interesting (Samsung deal etc.)

[Mark Roberts]

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I dont care if they call it K20D, or K2D, but we eventually need the next step 
upgrade.


Such a camera was said to be in the works in an interview with one of 
the higher-ups at Pentax last year. (It's on the web somewhere but I've 
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Re: PhotographyBlog: Pentax Interview, quite interesting (Samsung deal etc.)

[David Savage]

2008/9/30 John Celio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  - Cotty won't have to eat his hat and the rest of us won't have to
> re-invest in new 35mm lenses.

Most of mine are 35mm.

DS

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Re: GFM sold

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From: AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


I'll have to book my tickets around Christmas. Hope nothing changes
between then and June...

Still, I think it looks good from that article in the Charlotte
Observer. What with the Morton family still running the park and all.
Sounds like a deal to escape property taxes, if you ask me...  :-) 


Partly ... and perhaps partly it secures Hugh Morton's legacy.

The key for me is:

“Grandfather Mountain is protected for good, over and done, period,” 
said the younger Morton, who is president of Grandfather Mountain Inc. 
“That's the way it should be. Grandfather Mountain is too significant to 
have any potential for anyone ever to ruin it.”


and

“There's a place for condos and carousels, but Grandfather Mountain is 
not the place.”


I suspect they saw a future where rising land values and property taxes 
could force them to have to sell out to developers, and they wanted to 
get it into protected status while they could.


I think the old man would be right pleased.

It's the second private tourist attraction acquired by the State of NC 
to preserve it from development. NC bought Chimney Rock last year.


http://web.eenorthcarolina.org/net/org/info.aspx?s=44880.0.0.37430

I expect that's the same way NC will manage Grandfather Mountain. The 
Morton family will be contracted to continue to run the park through a 
non-profit corporation.


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Re: Ano 1720

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Dan:  Love the colors!  The light that Ken mentioned doesn't bother me 
that much--but it would probably look better without  it.  Anyway,  very 
nice shot.  Cheers, Christine



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http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4452221&size=md

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Re: Geso Straw art

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Dave:  Those are delightfully playful & fun--& quite vivid for sure :-) 
Nice job.  Cheers, Christine



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Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 12:22 PM
Subject: Geso Straw art



You can always tell its the fall time around these parts.

http://web.mac.com/barnyardcam/iWeb/Site/Straw%20Art.html

D200, in Vivid mode, photos dragged to iweb, no adjustments.

Sorry about the one vertical shot. I have tried to rotate these, but
the pop up inspector
window does not allow me to do anything other than change an aspect
ratio number.

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RE: Confusion Clarified

[John Sessoms]

From: Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Straight from the horse's mouth: An interview with Pentax Imaging's 
Sales and Marketing Director:


http://www.photographyblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/pentax_and_samsung_partnership_not_perfect

And at the very end:

"Similarly, Hoya aren?t planning to sell the lens-maker Tokina, which 
they also own, or to merge it with Pentax."


This explains a lot.


But I remember, when Hoya bought Pentax, mentioning that Hoya already 
owned Tokina, and being told here that I was wrong; Hoya DIDN'T own 
Tokina, they just had a marketing deal with Tokina here in the USA.


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Interesting bit of Trivia

[John Sessoms]

Y'all probably already knew this ... I may have forgotten it.

Reading an article on full-frame DSLRs today, and it said the *FIRST* FF 
DSLR was Pentax's MZ-D 6MP prototype shown at Photokina and PMA in 2001.


First PRODUCTION FF DSLR was the Contax N Digital, using the same 
Phillips CCD image chip.


Pentax canceled the project due to "cost", but the article suggested it 
might have been due more to poor image quality that didn't meet Pentax's 
standards.


Don't really mean nothin', but it IS Pentax related.

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Re: Singapore Grand Prix photos

[Ken Waller]

All I can say is WOW. some really exceptional images.
Thanks for posting.

One of the more interesting F1 races in a while.

Kenneth Waller
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Subject: OT: Singapore Grand Prix photos





For those of you who like racing photos, here is a great set from the  
Singapore GP, the first F1 race held at night.


Mike



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RE: Sigma 150mm macro on PK?

[John Sessoms]

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.warehouseexpress.com/product/default.aspx?sku=1007376

Probably a mistake... or am I missing something?

150mm Macro is one of the very best lenses on the world... if it comes to
Pentax I am 100% sure to grab one. But so far I know it doesn't comes to
Pentax...

Cheers,
.timber


According to the Sigma link provided, it's NOT available in Pentax 
mount, and the price in GBP £459.00 converts to $826.48 U.S. Dollars.


B&H lists the lens in Nikon mount for $669.00 USD.

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Sorta Semi OT: Grandfather Mountain

[John Sessoms]

The State of North Carolina purchased Grandfather
Mountain for $12 million dollars today.

The Morton family will continue to operate the nature center, wildlife
habitat and swinging bridge through a new nonprofit group, but 2600 
acres of undeveloped land, along with a 600 acre conservation easement 
will become a new state park.


http://www.newsobserver.com/print/sunday/city_state/story/1235214.html


The $12 million deal also gives the state a conservation easement on
the 600-acre park area, popular with visitors for its Mile High
Swinging Bridge, nature museum and animal habitat that includes the
mountain's beloved bears. The deal, to be announced Monday, is meant
to protect the land and its abundant wildlife and vegetation from
development.

That was a lifelong mission of Hugh Morton, who inherited the
mountain in 1952 and transformed the state's distinctive peak into a
leading tourist attraction while preserving its wild beauty. The
family will continue operating the park through a new nonprofit group
that could further enhance conservation efforts, his grandson, Crae
Morton, said Saturday.

"Grandfather Mountain is protected for good, over and done, period,"
said the younger Morton, who is president of Grandfather Mountain
Inc. "That's the way it should be. Grandfather Mountain is too
significant to have any potential for anyone ever to ruin it."



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OT: Singapore Grand Prix photos

[Mike Hamilton]

For those of you who like racing photos, here is a great set from the  
Singapore GP, the first F1 race held at night.


Mike

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Re: PhotographyBlog: Pentax Interview, quite interesting (Samsung deal etc.)

[pnstenquist]

I'd love to see a second card slot. When I shoot a wedding, my heart is in my 
throat until I get home and download the files to the comuter. A second card 
would be very reassuring. I dont care if they call it K20D, or K2D, but we 
eventually need the next step upgrade.
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> 
> I'm sure there will, too.  But I also expect any putative K30D would
> be aimed at or below the K20D price point.  I'd like to know whether
> we were still likely to see a K2D or whatever; a somewhat more costly
> camera, perhaps, but with some of the more esoteric features such as a
> faster maximum frame rate (5fps or better), a second SD card slot and/or
> a wireless transfer option (maybe even as add-ons in a battery grip), &c.
> 
> Mind you, I would agree that they probably should address better AF first;
> if they don't do that they'll see more and more people leaving the fold.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 08:51:39PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > i'm sure there will be further enhancements to the APS-C DSLR line. I think 
> that has been covered previously in Pentax announcements. I expect we'll see 
> a 
> K30D with better autofocus and faster write speeds.
> > Paul
> >  -- Original message --
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> > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 12:42:31PM -0700, John Celio wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > 
> http://www.photographyblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/pentax_and_samsung_part
> > > nership_not_perfect/
> > > > 
> > > > Sounds like a lot of good news.
> > > > 
> > > >  - Cotty won't have to eat his hat and the rest of us won't have to
> > > > re-invest in new 35mm lenses.
> > > > 
> > > >  - The 645D will likely see the light of day, reaffirming Pentax's old
> > > > position of professional medium-format camera maker.
> > > > 
> > > >  - The possible Micro 4/3rds partnership would make Godfrey a very, very
> > > > happy guy, if it happens.
> > > > 
> > > >  - Hoya is serious about keeping Pentax alive and in the game.
> > > > 
> > > > I like it all.
> > > > 
> > > > John
> > > 
> > > I'd have liked to see how Pentax envision the APS-C line evolving;
> > > will there be anything above the K20D?
> > > 
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Re: PhotographyBlog: Pentax Interview, quite interesting (Samsung deal etc.)

[John Francis]

I'm sure there will, too.  But I also expect any putative K30D would
be aimed at or below the K20D price point.  I'd like to know whether
we were still likely to see a K2D or whatever; a somewhat more costly
camera, perhaps, but with some of the more esoteric features such as a
faster maximum frame rate (5fps or better), a second SD card slot and/or
a wireless transfer option (maybe even as add-ons in a battery grip), &c.

Mind you, I would agree that they probably should address better AF first;
if they don't do that they'll see more and more people leaving the fold.


On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 08:51:39PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> i'm sure there will be further enhancements to the APS-C DSLR line. I think 
> that has been covered previously in Pentax announcements. I expect we'll see 
> a K30D with better autofocus and faster write speeds.
> Paul
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> > On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 12:42:31PM -0700, John Celio wrote:
> > > > 
> > http://www.photographyblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/pentax_and_samsung_part
> > nership_not_perfect/
> > > 
> > > Sounds like a lot of good news.
> > > 
> > >  - Cotty won't have to eat his hat and the rest of us won't have to
> > > re-invest in new 35mm lenses.
> > > 
> > >  - The 645D will likely see the light of day, reaffirming Pentax's old
> > > position of professional medium-format camera maker.
> > > 
> > >  - The possible Micro 4/3rds partnership would make Godfrey a very, very
> > > happy guy, if it happens.
> > > 
> > >  - Hoya is serious about keeping Pentax alive and in the game.
> > > 
> > > I like it all.
> > > 
> > > John
> > 
> > I'd have liked to see how Pentax envision the APS-C line evolving;
> > will there be anything above the K20D?
> > 
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Re: GFM sold

[Cotty]

On 30/9/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

>
>State parks generally have camping. Recreation areas don't neccessarily.
>There is a good possibility that the picnic area could morph into a
>campground.

SHOWERS :-

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Re: GFM sold

[William Robb]

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 5:31 AM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't see how a bunch of people walking around a nature preserver
> area, already paved, is in danger from the state of NC. But then
> again, i have no experience with the US Parks.
>
> I could see the camping for the two weekends stopped, but maybe Crae
> and family might keep that.
>

State parks generally have camping. Recreation areas don't neccessarily.
There is a good possibility that the picnic area could morph into a campground.

William Robb

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Re: GFM sold

[keith_w]

AlunFoto wrote:

Here's more meat to the bone:

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/408/story/219105.html

Jostein


That sounds pretty clear to me!
The historic owners are joining the buyers in making sure the land stays clean 
and clear of destructive practices.


If it all happens as intended, that is.

keith whaley

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Re: PhotographyBlog: Pentax Interview, quite interesting (Samsung deal etc.)

[pnstenquist]

Doesn't sound like full frame is a viable option. Note the comments about the 
lens line conflict. Pentax will undoubtedly remain in the APS-C fold for at 
least the next few years.
Paul
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> Don't worry Cotty, the decision on weather to build the K[X]D as a 
> 24x36mm sensor or the 645D boils down to which is most likely to make 
> money for the Pentax imaging division.  Still plenty of possibility for 
> a gustatory Gatsby  rendezvous. 
> 
> Cotty wrote:
> > On 29/9/08, John Celio, discombobulated, unleashed:
> >
> >   
> >>> http://www.photographyblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/
> >>>   
> >> pentax_and_samsung_partnership_not_perfect/
> >>
> >> Sounds like a lot of good news.
> >>
> >> - Cotty won't have to eat his hat and the rest of us won't have to
> >> re-invest in new 35mm lenses.
> >>
> >> - The 645D will likely see the light of day, reaffirming Pentax's old
> >> position of professional medium-format camera maker.
> >>
> >> - The possible Micro 4/3rds partnership would make Godfrey a very, very
> >> happy guy, if it happens.
> >>
> >> - Hoya is serious about keeping Pentax alive and in the game.
> >> 
> >
> > Well, that's interesting.
> >
> > In a couple of years I'll be looking out for a full-frame 1Ds to attach
> > my 15 and 85 lenses to. But that's just me. For most people the above
> > will be just fine.
> >
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Re: PhotographyBlog: Pentax Interview, quite interesting (Samsung deal etc.)

[pnstenquist]

i'm sure there will be further enhancements to the APS-C DSLR line. I think 
that has been covered previously in Pentax announcements. I expect we'll see a 
K30D with better autofocus and faster write speeds.
Paul
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> On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 12:42:31PM -0700, John Celio wrote:
> > > 
> http://www.photographyblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/pentax_and_samsung_part
> nership_not_perfect/
> > 
> > Sounds like a lot of good news.
> > 
> >  - Cotty won't have to eat his hat and the rest of us won't have to
> > re-invest in new 35mm lenses.
> > 
> >  - The 645D will likely see the light of day, reaffirming Pentax's old
> > position of professional medium-format camera maker.
> > 
> >  - The possible Micro 4/3rds partnership would make Godfrey a very, very
> > happy guy, if it happens.
> > 
> >  - Hoya is serious about keeping Pentax alive and in the game.
> > 
> > I like it all.
> > 
> > John
> 
> I'd have liked to see how Pentax envision the APS-C line evolving;
> will there be anything above the K20D?
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Re: PhotographyBlog: Pentax Interview, quite interesting (Samsung deal etc.)

[P. J. Alling]

Don't worry Cotty, the decision on weather to build the K[X]D as a 
24x36mm sensor or the 645D boils down to which is most likely to make 
money for the Pentax imaging division.  Still plenty of possibility for 
a gustatory Gatsby  rendezvous. 


Cotty wrote:

On 29/9/08, John Celio, discombobulated, unleashed:

  

http://www.photographyblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/
  

pentax_and_samsung_partnership_not_perfect/

Sounds like a lot of good news.

- Cotty won't have to eat his hat and the rest of us won't have to
re-invest in new 35mm lenses.

- The 645D will likely see the light of day, reaffirming Pentax's old
position of professional medium-format camera maker.

- The possible Micro 4/3rds partnership would make Godfrey a very, very
happy guy, if it happens.

- Hoya is serious about keeping Pentax alive and in the game.



Well, that's interesting.

In a couple of years I'll be looking out for a full-frame 1Ds to attach
my 15 and 85 lenses to. But that's just me. For most people the above
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Re: PhotographyBlog: Pentax Interview, quite interesting (Samsung deal etc.)

[John Francis]

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 12:42:31PM -0700, John Celio wrote:
> > http://www.photographyblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/pentax_and_samsung_partnership_not_perfect/
> 
> Sounds like a lot of good news.
> 
>  - Cotty won't have to eat his hat and the rest of us won't have to
> re-invest in new 35mm lenses.
> 
>  - The 645D will likely see the light of day, reaffirming Pentax's old
> position of professional medium-format camera maker.
> 
>  - The possible Micro 4/3rds partnership would make Godfrey a very, very
> happy guy, if it happens.
> 
>  - Hoya is serious about keeping Pentax alive and in the game.
> 
> I like it all.
> 
> John

I'd have liked to see how Pentax envision the APS-C line evolving;
will there be anything above the K20D?


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Re: GFM sold

[David J Brooks]

I don't see how a bunch of people walking around a nature preserver
area, already paved, is in danger from the state of NC. But then
again, i have no experience with the US Parks.

I could see the camping for the two weekends stopped, but maybe Crae
and family might keep that.

Dave

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 4:23 PM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sure it will be protected, that's positive.  Special events, which were
> money making endeavors,  however will be curtailed, after all can't allow
> outsiders the opportunity to damage the state's property.  What was the
> center of a lively community will become at best a specimen frozen in amber
> at worst fossilized bones on display. I've seen too much of that happen,
> (both in person, and through research), to other "treasures" run by states.
> Bob Sullivan wrote:
>>
>> PJ,
>> What a sorry negative attitude you have.
>> Did you read this article that Jostein posted.
>> http://www.charlotteobserver.com/408/story/219105.html
>> It sounds very positive to me.
>> Making this a state park adds to it's protected status.
>> Having met Hugh, Crae, and a number of the other Mortons,
>> I have no reason to doubt their integrity of desire to preserve
>> Hugh Morton's legacy.
>> Regards,  Bob S.
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 12:03 PM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> That could change at any time...
>>> NC is a state government, state web sites in most US states, unless
>>> directly
>>> connected with taxes are notoriously out of date, and the GFM deal hasn't
>>> yet been consummated.  I don't expect that it won't happen, just that any
>>> changes will happen afterward.
>>>
>>> Cotty wrote:
>>>

 On 29/9/08, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed:



>
> The 09 NPW is still listedbut could it change?
>
>

 oops forgot link

 



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Re: Happy Birthday, David!

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HAR.

Don't for get its grey until you get it, then its Silver.:-)

Dave

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Re: GFM sold

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Sure it will be protected, that's positive.  Special events, which were 
money making endeavors,  however will be curtailed, after all can't 
allow outsiders the opportunity to damage the state's property.  What 
was the center of a lively community will become at best a specimen 
frozen in amber at worst fossilized bones on display. I've seen too much 
of that happen, (both in person, and through research), to other 
"treasures" run by states. 


Bob Sullivan wrote:

PJ,
What a sorry negative attitude you have.
Did you read this article that Jostein posted.
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/408/story/219105.html
It sounds very positive to me.
Making this a state park adds to it's protected status.
Having met Hugh, Crae, and a number of the other Mortons,
I have no reason to doubt their integrity of desire to preserve
Hugh Morton's legacy.
Regards,  Bob S.

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That could change at any time...
NC is a state government, state web sites in most US states, unless directly
connected with taxes are notoriously out of date, and the GFM deal hasn't
yet been consummated.  I don't expect that it won't happen, just that any
changes will happen afterward.

Cotty wrote:


On 29/9/08, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed:


  

The 09 NPW is still listedbut could it change?



oops forgot link





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Re: Happy Birthday, David!

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Dave,
I've got you beat, but I won't grow a beard because it's too gray.
I regularly ask the barber to trim off only the gray hairs.
Regards,  Bob S.

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>> If it's 30, it's a high milage 30...  ;-)
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> 30 was a long time ago, and still hard mileage to.:-)
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> 56, btw
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> Dave
>> Regards,  Bob S.
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>>> Oh yeah - happy birthday.
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Re: PhotographyBlog: Pentax Interview, quite interesting (Samsung deal etc.)

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Interesting, it also indicates that Tokina is indeed owned by Hoya,
not sure how accurate that is.

-Adam

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Re: PhotographyBlog: Pentax Interview, quite interesting (Samsung deal etc.)

[Cotty]

On 29/9/08, John Celio, discombobulated, unleashed:

>> http://www.photographyblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/
>pentax_and_samsung_partnership_not_perfect/
>
>Sounds like a lot of good news.
>
> - Cotty won't have to eat his hat and the rest of us won't have to
>re-invest in new 35mm lenses.
>
> - The 645D will likely see the light of day, reaffirming Pentax's old
>position of professional medium-format camera maker.
>
> - The possible Micro 4/3rds partnership would make Godfrey a very, very
>happy guy, if it happens.
>
> - Hoya is serious about keeping Pentax alive and in the game.

Well, that's interesting.

In a couple of years I'll be looking out for a full-frame 1Ds to attach
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Re: GFM sold

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On 29/9/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Here's more meat to the bone:
>
>http://www.charlotteobserver.com/408/story/219105.html
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>Jostein

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Re: GFM sold

[Bob Sullivan]

PJ,
What a sorry negative attitude you have.
Did you read this article that Jostein posted.
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/408/story/219105.html
It sounds very positive to me.
Making this a state park adds to it's protected status.
Having met Hugh, Crae, and a number of the other Mortons,
I have no reason to doubt their integrity of desire to preserve
Hugh Morton's legacy.
Regards,  Bob S.

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> That could change at any time...
> NC is a state government, state web sites in most US states, unless directly
> connected with taxes are notoriously out of date, and the GFM deal hasn't
> yet been consummated.  I don't expect that it won't happen, just that any
> changes will happen afterward.
>
> Cotty wrote:
>>
>> On 29/9/08, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> The 09 NPW is still listedbut could it change?
>>>
>>
>> oops forgot link
>>
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RE: PhotographyBlog: Pentax Interview, quite interesting (Samsung deal etc.)

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> http://www.photographyblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/pentax_and_samsung_partnership_not_perfect/

Sounds like a lot of good news.

 - Cotty won't have to eat his hat and the rest of us won't have to
re-invest in new 35mm lenses.

 - The 645D will likely see the light of day, reaffirming Pentax's old
position of professional medium-format camera maker.

 - The possible Micro 4/3rds partnership would make Godfrey a very, very
happy guy, if it happens.

 - Hoya is serious about keeping Pentax alive and in the game.

I like it all.

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Re: PESO: Ano 1720

[Jack Davis]

What Ken said. Also, many a shot of this ilk, works well centered in the frame.

Jack


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> Subject: PESO: Ano 1720
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Re: Ano 1720

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Thanks for the helpful comments.  I did notice the sky, but the light
fixture didn't bother me until you pointed it out.  Now, I can see how
discordant it is with  the age and architectural style of the wall and
door.

Dan M

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> I'd also crop a little off the top to rid it of the bright strip of
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Re: Ano 1720

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Well seen & captured but ya gotta get rid of the light.

I'd also crop a little off the top to rid it of the bright strip of 
background sky.


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Subject: PESO: Ano 1720



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Re: PhotographyBlog: Pentax Interview, quite interesting (Samsung deal etc.)

[Timber]

Pentax would join Micro 4/3? But the question will there be MFT - PK 
adapter with possible AF with the built in motorized SDM lenses? :)

.t

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Re: PESO - mountain plain

[Ken Waller]

Appears well done technically, but it might be a scene where you put the 
camera down & enjoy the view.


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Subject: PESO - mountain plain



Hi gang,

My trip this week-end was successful in many ways. A lot of keepers
has been registered on the SD cards, and it will take a good while to
sort them through. I also got to test a newly bought goose down
sleeping bag, and some really long-time exposures with the K20D. I
also landed myself in the lauch of this year's  reindeer hunting
season, so I had to leave my antlers in the car .

When in the same area three years ago, I was very proud of myself to
have climbed a 1200 m asl. peak. Not much of a feat really, so I
challenged myself to climb another one this time. Not much taller, but
more than twice as far to walk. All the distance above the tree-line
gave spectacular views all round, and plenty of room for the thoughts
to wander, too. :-)

After riding one particular train of thought, I took this image. What say 
you?


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_VWBjZjc1fI4/SOCOaJZgHgI/ATw/2d2vQY4897E/s1600-h/20080928-0290.jpg

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Re: GFM sold

[Ken Waller]

Well, there goes our camp site.


Think globally...

there goes the mountain.

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Subject: Re: GFM sold



Bill Owens wrote:

I just saw on the local Charlotte news that the State of North
Carolina ia buying Grandfather Mountain.


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PESO: Ano 1720

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Re: PESO - mountain plain

[Jack Davis]

Your trip sounds a little athletic for me, but glad you found yourself well 
equipped for all activities.
Difficult to determine scale of this scene and, therefore, what your options 
might have been. Is the plain dry grass, dirt or (?).
Deep blue sky indicates you may have been a few thousand feet above sea level.
Contains nice earth colors, Jostein.

Jack

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> Subject: PESO - mountain plain
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> Date: Monday, September 29, 2008, 9:49 AM
> Hi gang,
> 
> My trip this week-end was successful in many ways. A lot of
> keepers
> has been registered on the SD cards, and it will take a
> good while to
> sort them through. I also got to test a newly bought goose
> down
> sleeping bag, and some really long-time exposures with the
> K20D. I
> also landed myself in the lauch of this year's 
> reindeer hunting
> season, so I had to leave my antlers in the car .
> 
> When in the same area three years ago, I was very proud of
> myself to
> have climbed a 1200 m asl. peak. Not much of a feat really,
> so I
> challenged myself to climb another one this time. Not much
> taller, but
> more than twice as far to walk. All the distance above the
> tree-line
> gave spectacular views all round, and plenty of room for
> the thoughts
> to wander, too. :-)
> 
> After riding one particular train of thought, I took this
> image. What say you?
> 
> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_VWBjZjc1fI4/SOCOaJZgHgI/ATw/2d2vQY4897E/s1600-h/20080928-0290.jpg
> 
> http://yi.no/t6Xu
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> 
> 
> Best,
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Re: GFM sold

[AlunFoto]

I'll have to book my tickets around Christmas. Hope nothing changes
between then and June...

Still, I think it looks good from that article in the Charlotte
Observer. What with the Morton family still running the park and all.
Sounds like a deal to escape property taxes, if you ask me... :-)

Jostein


2008/9/29 Rebekah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> eek!!
>
> Now I'm NEVER gonna get to got to NPW! Never! Never! Never!
>
> *sigh* I hope the state doesn't change the place up too much.
>
> rg2
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 The 09 NPW is still listedbut could it change?

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Re: PhotographyBlog: Pentax Interview, quite interesting (Samsung deal etc.)

[Dario Bonazza]

I may add that a Samsung manager said the following to the audience on 
occasion of their press conference in Cologne:


1) The technical partnership with Pentax is going ahead. Samsung never 
discussed the possibility to buy Pentax camera division from Hoya, and they 
currently have no plan to do that.
2) Samsung is developing an intermediate product between compacts and DSLR's 
(something more or less like the Panasonic G1), and it's going to be a 
Samsung-only product, not a joint venture with Pentax.


Dario

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Re: GFM sold

[Rebekah]

eek!!

Now I'm NEVER gonna get to got to NPW! Never! Never! Never!

*sigh* I hope the state doesn't change the place up too much.

rg2


On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 1:03 PM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That could change at any time...
> NC is a state government, state web sites in most US states, unless directly
> connected with taxes are notoriously out of date, and the GFM deal hasn't
> yet been consummated.  I don't expect that it won't happen, just that any
> changes will happen afterward.
>
> Cotty wrote:
>>
>> On 29/9/08, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> The 09 NPW is still listedbut could it change?
>>>
>>
>> oops forgot link
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Re: GFM sold

[P. J. Alling]

That could change at any time...
NC is a state government, state web sites in most US states, unless 
directly connected with taxes are notoriously out of date, and the GFM 
deal hasn't yet been consummated.  I don't expect that it won't happen, 
just that any changes will happen afterward.


Cotty wrote:

On 29/9/08, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed:

  

The 09 NPW is still listedbut could it change?



oops forgot link





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Re: PhotographyBlog: Pentax Interview, quite interesting (Samsung deal etc.)

[P. J. Alling]

Thibouille wrote:

http://www.photographyblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/pentax_and_samsung_partnership_not_perfect/
  
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Re: book maiking with BLURB - anyone try it?

[ann sanfedele]

Paul
Thanks -- all my shots that are loaded onto smugmug were converted to 
srgb on uploading if I had not
done that in photoshop - but I'll always check the color space... is 
that true even if you are doing black and white
photos do you know?  


anyway - good to know  - you are smugmugger too right?

ann

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Ann -

I've also used Blurb, have been very happy with the results and won't 
hesitate to use them again.  Their free software is relatively easy to 
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One very important step in creating your Blurb publication is to make 
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-p

ann sanfedele wrote:




Walter Hamler wrote:


Ann, I have had three books published through Blurb with several
reprints/reorders. The quality is excellent. One is a picture book
that I have had a lot of positive feedback on. The other two are
novels but have pics on front and back and inside of dust cover.
Again, lots of positive feedback.

Ah, _ i had forgotten the name of the company you used...  glad to 
hear it  - did you find it easy to use?



I don't think they do calendars however.

Walt
 

Actually, the "daybook" kind of calendar would be done as a book but 
I had simply been looking for Smugmug's
prices on calendar making and their style to see if I wanted to 
switch away from cafepress for mine or add to

it...


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I was browsing around smugmug stuff for their calendar prices 
(looks like

they stopped offering those) and came up
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Re: GFM sold

[AlunFoto]

Here's more meat to the bone:

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/408/story/219105.html

Jostein

2008/9/29 Bill Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I just saw on the local Charlotte news that the State of North
> Carolina ia buying Grandfather Mountain.
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Re: PESO - mountain plain

[P. J. Alling]

Looks bleak.

AlunFoto wrote:

Hi gang,

My trip this week-end was successful in many ways. A lot of keepers
has been registered on the SD cards, and it will take a good while to
sort them through. I also got to test a newly bought goose down
sleeping bag, and some really long-time exposures with the K20D. I
also landed myself in the lauch of this year's  reindeer hunting
season, so I had to leave my antlers in the car .

When in the same area three years ago, I was very proud of myself to
have climbed a 1200 m asl. peak. Not much of a feat really, so I
challenged myself to climb another one this time. Not much taller, but
more than twice as far to walk. All the distance above the tree-line
gave spectacular views all round, and plenty of room for the thoughts
to wander, too. :-)

After riding one particular train of thought, I took this image. What say you?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_VWBjZjc1fI4/SOCOaJZgHgI/ATw/2d2vQY4897E/s1600-h/20080928-0290.jpg

http://yi.no/t6Xu



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Re: GFM sold

[Cotty]

On 29/9/08, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed:

>The 09 NPW is still listedbut could it change?

oops forgot link





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Re: GFM sold

[P. J. Alling]

Bill Owens wrote:

I just saw on the local Charlotte news that the State of North
Carolina ia buying Grandfather Mountain.

Bill

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Re: GFM sold

[Cotty]

The 09 NPW is still listedbut could it change?

I gather that escalators will be replacing the ladders, and the gravy
and grits will attract a health warning ;-)

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PESO - mountain plain

[AlunFoto]

Hi gang,

My trip this week-end was successful in many ways. A lot of keepers
has been registered on the SD cards, and it will take a good while to
sort them through. I also got to test a newly bought goose down
sleeping bag, and some really long-time exposures with the K20D. I
also landed myself in the lauch of this year's  reindeer hunting
season, so I had to leave my antlers in the car .

When in the same area three years ago, I was very proud of myself to
have climbed a 1200 m asl. peak. Not much of a feat really, so I
challenged myself to climb another one this time. Not much taller, but
more than twice as far to walk. All the distance above the tree-line
gave spectacular views all round, and plenty of room for the thoughts
to wander, too. :-)

After riding one particular train of thought, I took this image. What say you?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_VWBjZjc1fI4/SOCOaJZgHgI/ATw/2d2vQY4897E/s1600-h/20080928-0290.jpg

http://yi.no/t6Xu



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RE: Confusion Clarified

[JC OCONNELL]

There has been a Hoya/tokina connection for years, not sure exactly what
it was, but in the early 80's there were a pair of matching series of
excellent Hoya HMC and Tokina RMC lenses that were obviously made by the
same mfgr, with just very slight trim differencesThese lenses are
excellent values as they don't Sell for much but have outstanding build
and optical qualityThe Hoyas Are far rarer, they may have been sold
only on the Japan market or something.

JC O'Connell
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 11:49 AM
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Subject: Re: Confusion Clarified

Ah just posted the same link :p

Yes indeed although it is not toally clear if this is a comment from
the interviewer or the interviewed guy.
I suppose the interviewer has enough journalistic ethic which would
mean Tokina is indeed owned by Hoya.

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Joseph Tainter
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Straight from the horse's mouth: An interview with Pentax Imaging's
Sales
> and Marketing Director:
>
>
http://www.photographyblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/pentax_and_sams
ung_partnership_not_perfect
>
> And at the very end:
>
> "Similarly, Hoya aren't planning to sell the lens-maker Tokina, which
they
> also own, or to merge it with Pentax."
>
> This explains a lot.
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Re: GFM sold

[Cotty]

On 29/9/08, Bill Owens, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I just saw on the local Charlotte news that the State of North
>Carolina ia buying Grandfather Mountain.

I had heard about this from another source.

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Re: GFM sold

[Scott Loveless]

Bill Owens wrote:

I just saw on the local Charlotte news that the State of North
Carolina ia buying Grandfather Mountain.


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GFM sold

[Bill Owens]

I just saw on the local Charlotte news that the State of North
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Re: book maiking with BLURB - anyone try it?

[Paul Sorenson]

Ann -

I've also used Blurb, have been very happy with the results and won't 
hesitate to use them again.  Their free software is relatively easy to 
use and comes with a plethora of templates.


One very important step in creating your Blurb publication is to make 
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ann sanfedele wrote:



Walter Hamler wrote:


Ann, I have had three books published through Blurb with several
reprints/reorders. The quality is excellent. One is a picture book
that I have had a lot of positive feedback on. The other two are
novels but have pics on front and back and inside of dust cover.
Again, lots of positive feedback.

Ah, _ i had forgotten the name of the company you used...  glad to hear 
it  - did you find it easy to use?



I don't think they do calendars however.

Walt
 

Actually, the "daybook" kind of calendar would be done as a book but I 
had simply been looking for Smugmug's
prices on calendar making and their style to see if I wanted to switch 
away from cafepress for mine or add to

it...


On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:33 AM, ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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I was browsing around smugmug stuff for their calendar prices (looks 
like

they stopped offering those) and came up
with a page on BLURB  for making books -  Anyone here try it?

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Re: Confusion Clarified

[Thibouille]

Ah just posted the same link :p

Yes indeed although it is not toally clear if this is a comment from
the interviewer or the interviewed guy.
I suppose the interviewer has enough journalistic ethic which would
mean Tokina is indeed owned by Hoya.

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Straight from the horse's mouth: An interview with Pentax Imaging's Sales
> and Marketing Director:
>
> http://www.photographyblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/pentax_and_samsung_partnership_not_perfect
>
> And at the very end:
>
> "Similarly, Hoya aren't planning to sell the lens-maker Tokina, which they
> also own, or to merge it with Pentax."
>
> This explains a lot.
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> Joe
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Confusion Clarified

[Joseph Tainter]

Straight from the horse's mouth: An interview with Pentax Imaging's 
Sales and Marketing Director:


http://www.photographyblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/pentax_and_samsung_partnership_not_perfect

And at the very end:

"Similarly, Hoya aren’t planning to sell the lens-maker Tokina, which 
they also own, or to merge it with Pentax."


This explains a lot.

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PhotographyBlog: Pentax Interview, quite interesting (Samsung deal etc.)

[Thibouille]

http://www.photographyblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/pentax_and_samsung_partnership_not_perfect/

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Re: book maiking with BLURB - anyone try it?

[ann sanfedele]

Walter Hamler wrote:


Ann, I have had three books published through Blurb with several
reprints/reorders. The quality is excellent. One is a picture book
that I have had a lot of positive feedback on. The other two are
novels but have pics on front and back and inside of dust cover.
Again, lots of positive feedback.

Ah, _ i had forgotten the name of the company you used...  glad to hear 
it  - did you find it easy to use?



I don't think they do calendars however.

Walt
 

Actually, the "daybook" kind of calendar would be done as a book but I 
had simply been looking for Smugmug's
prices on calendar making and their style to see if I wanted to switch 
away from cafepress for mine or add to

it...



On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:33 AM, ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


I was browsing around smugmug stuff for their calendar prices (looks like
they stopped offering those) and came up
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Re: OT PS question

[David J Brooks]

Thanks George, its filed info now.:-)

I think i mislead. The shots from all of my Nikons and the K10D look
sharp in PS, LR and Vueprint, my old on site editor.

Its just the D200 and action shots are soft, and a lot of sharpening
is needed, so much so it looks it.

The portrtrat stuff is ok, not 100%, but ok. I can work with them.

I did not know that about PS in its resizing, though.

Dave

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:23 AM, George Sinos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> David -
>
> There is a lot of info in the previous replies and I'm not sure what I
> have to add helps, but this is on a slightly different topic.  I'm
> only bringing this up because you mentioned shots looking sharp in
> other editors, but not looking sharp in photoshop.
>
> In photoshop versions before CS4, the did not completely render the
> image at every magnification.  My memory is a little fuzzy, (no pun
> intended) but sharpness can only be evaluated at 25, 50 and 100%
> magnification.  I don't have my documentation at hand, but it might be
> worth checking out if that has something to do with your problem.
>
> Other levels of zoom, like 33 or 66 percent aren't redrawn from the
> original file contents, but redrawn from whatever may be held in
> memory.  I"m not sure about magnification above 100%.
>
> Like I said, I'm not sure if this has anything to do with your
> problem, but it's possible.
>
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Re: book maiking with BLURB - anyone try it?

[Walter Hamler]

Ann, I have had three books published through Blurb with several
reprints/reorders. The quality is excellent. One is a picture book
that I have had a lot of positive feedback on. The other two are
novels but have pics on front and back and inside of dust cover.
Again, lots of positive feedback.
I don't think they do calendars however.

Walt

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> they stopped offering those) and came up
> with a page on BLURB  for making books -  Anyone here try it?
>
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I was browsing around smugmug stuff for their calendar prices (looks 
like they stopped offering those) and came up

with a page on BLURB  for making books -  Anyone here try it?

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Re: OT PS question

[George Sinos]

David -

There is a lot of info in the previous replies and I'm not sure what I
have to add helps, but this is on a slightly different topic.  I'm
only bringing this up because you mentioned shots looking sharp in
other editors, but not looking sharp in photoshop.

In photoshop versions before CS4, the did not completely render the
image at every magnification.  My memory is a little fuzzy, (no pun
intended) but sharpness can only be evaluated at 25, 50 and 100%
magnification.  I don't have my documentation at hand, but it might be
worth checking out if that has something to do with your problem.

Other levels of zoom, like 33 or 66 percent aren't redrawn from the
original file contents, but redrawn from whatever may be held in
memory.  I"m not sure about magnification above 100%.

Like I said, I'm not sure if this has anything to do with your
problem, but it's possible.

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Re: OT PESOs - "Text & Pictures" & "Long Day"

[David J Brooks]

Thanks, i'll look into that plug in.

I'm still impressed though.

Dave

On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 1:54 PM, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry Dave :-)
>
> I have a Firefox EXIF reader add on that gives the data as a right
> click option. Here is the exposure details
>
> Text & Pictures
>
> D700, AF-D 35mm f2, 1/10 @ f2, ISO 2500
>
> Long Day
>
> D700, AF-D 35mm f2, 1/30 @ f2, ISO 2500
>
> Thanks for looking & your comments.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
>
> 2008/9/29 David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> YOU, are not making this easy, David.:-)
>>
>> Both are good shots, but # 1 is my favorite of the two. Like her
>> expression and the angle shot.
>>
>> Those are very clean. Were did you hide the exif data, or do i have to
>> load them in PS or something.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:41 PM, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> G'day All,
>>>
>>> Another couple of shots from the evil toy.
>>>
>>> I went to a mates exhibition opening Friday night & took this one
>>> while having after dinner coffee:
>>> 
>>>
>>> This is the mate in question fading fast after a long week & tiring day:
>>> 
>>>
>>> Details in the EXIF.
>>>
>>> Any & all comments welcome.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Dave
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Re: Geso Straw art

[David J Brooks]

Thanks Godfrey.

Just a bit of light hearted photography to help with the shorter days now.:-0

Dave

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> Nice stuff, Dave!
>
> G
>
> On Sep 28, 2008, at 10:22 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
>
>> You can always tell its the fall time around these parts.
>>
>> http://web.mac.com/barnyardcam/iWeb/Site/Straw%20Art.html
>>
>> D200, in Vivid mode, photos dragged to iweb, no adjustments.
>>
>> Sorry about the one vertical shot. I have tried to rotate these, but
>> the pop up inspector
>> window does not allow me to do anything other than change an aspect
>> ratio number.
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Re: OT PS question

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On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Ken Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> i know i'm a pain
>
> MARK !
>
> Kenneth Waller

Saw that did you.:-0

Dave
> http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
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Re: OT PS question

[David J Brooks]

On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I suspect that Dave is referencing shooting events.  They are quite
> different from what you are doing.  It is more like taking the 300
> images and getting rid of the few that didn't work and then
> processing all the rest rather than 10-20 shots like you are doing.
> Usually it is the same basic shots with different people in them.  I
> have done that type of shooting many times for kid's sports.

Yes thats right. Same jump, same angle, same light etc.

I basically shot jpg at these events to:

1- Keep the files down on the computer.

2- Have not developed a raw to jpg quick conversion as to get the
photos up on line quickly. I have pscs on the mac ibook and pscs2 on
the PC, as well as LR and BBpro.

I am going to assume that 1 if not all will have some down and dirty
raw to jpg conversion then.

Looks like i need to shot raw for the D200 to get any type of photo
i'm happy with.

I'll give that a go, as its cheaper.:-)

Dave
>
> But, I do agree that shooting raw and then a quick basic tweak in the
> raw converter is the way to go.  Lightroom is one of the converters
> that makes things go much quicker.
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Re: OT PS question

[David J Brooks]

On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>

> I don't know what you consider "minimal PP".

I suppose thats a bad phrase to use. If i look at any other photo in
Vueprint, unless i blow the shot, i can see a nice sharp image, even
before any processing.
If i look at the D200 action shots, they are definetly softer, need
more push, a lot more push, and most of the time, i;'m not happy with
the "crispness" to the photo.

It sounds as if the D200 filter is stronger than most of its earlier
models and the K10D.
>

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> Godfrey
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Re: Happy Birthday, David!

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On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Happy birthday Dave.
> If it's 30, it's a high milage 30...  ;-)

30 was a long time ago, and still hard mileage to.:-)

56, btw

Dave
> Regards,  Bob S.
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>> Yeah, by all means Dave, you deserve it.
>>
>> Oh yeah - happy birthday.
>>
>> What is it 30 ?
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Re: Pentax Sighting

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> 
> From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2008/09/28 Sun PM 05:03:24 GMT
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: Pentax Sighting
> 
> I'm watching a docu-drama about the Challenger accident. As they do
> with these things nowadays they have re-enactments of pivotal events.
> 
> In the scene where engineer Roger Boisjoly first records the evidence
> of damaged booster rocked section seals a year before the accident,
> the actor is using a ME Super with an AF-160 flash.

Does he chimp after taking shots?


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Re: PESO Shoemobile

[Christine Aguila]

Good one, Boris :-) and thanks for looking.  Cheers, Christine


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I should say that this is totally heel-arious ;-).




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Re: PESO 2008 - 149 - GDG

[Christine Aguila]

I agree with Cotty.  Lovely, Godfrey. Cheers, Christine


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To: "pentax list" 
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: PESO 2008 - 149 - GDG



On 28/9/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:


A quiet moment while visiting friends in Northleach ...

  http://homepage.mac.com/godders/149-watching-tv.jpg
  Watching Television - Northleach 2008
  Panasonic L1 + Olympus 25mm f/2.8
  ISO 200 @ f/5 @ 1/40 sec

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Re: Sigma 150mm macro on PK?

[Adam Maas]

Mistake, the lens is only available in Nikon, Canon, Sigma and 4/3rds mounts.

-Adam

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 3:59 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Probably a mistake... or am I missing something?
>
> 150mm Macro is one of the very best lenses on the world... if it comes to
> Pentax I am 100% sure to grab one. But so far I know it doesn't comes to
> Pentax...
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Re: PESO: Now We Are Four!

[mike wilson]

You certainly know how to celebrate Christmas and New Year.
> 
> From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2008/09/27 Sat PM 12:56:30 GMT
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> Thanks Boris. We have three September birthdays: my son and youngest  
> daughter are the 27th and 30th. So tonight is  a party night.
> Paul
> 
> On Sep 27, 2008, at 8:48 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
> 
> > Hmmm...
> >
> > My wife and me are also born of September... Evidently Grace is  
> > going to  one of the best ;-).
> >
> > Boris
> >
> > Paul Stenquist wrote:
> >> We celebrated Grace's fourth birthday this weekend.
> >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7815457
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Re: Happy Birthday, David!

[Mme RD]

Bon anniversaire !! i think i'll use that 29+ trick from now on  lol ...
dom

Bob Sullivan a écrit :

Happy birthday Dave.
If it's 30, it's a high milage 30...  ;-)
Regards,  Bob S.

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Yeah, by all means Dave, you deserve it.

Oh yeah - happy birthday.

What is it 30 ?

Kenneth Waller
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Today is David Brooks' birthday. So I think it's only right that we
 authorize him to go out and buy that 700D.
Seriously, have a great day, Dave.
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Sigma 150mm macro on PK?

[timber]

http://www.warehouseexpress.com/product/default.aspx?sku=1007376

Probably a mistake... or am I missing something?

150mm Macro is one of the very best lenses on the world... if it comes to
Pentax I am 100% sure to grab one. But so far I know it doesn't comes to
Pentax...

Cheers,
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