Re: Help the Pentaxian Pick Two!

[Subash]

On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:36:23 -0800
Joseph McAllister  wrote:

> Go here:
> http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Entries/2008/12/13_Best_Two_-_Page_1_of_3.html
> 
> look at all three pages and either leave a comment or send me an
> email (available on every page) with your top choices. You can pick
> more than two, but if you do, please rank them.

hi Joe,

if those were mine, i'd go with 2 and 8. i like 13 and 7 too...

hope that doesn't confuse things further. :-)

regards, subash

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Re: PESO - Oz Bird

[David Mann]

On Dec 14, 2008, at 4:57 PM, Anthony Farr wrote:

My guess is that a third party ad being inserted locally is the  
villain, so

Australian and US viewers weren't exposed, but UK viewers were.


I got it here in NZ.  Safari gave me a big warning and a link to a  
Google tool of some sort.  I just closed the tab.


- Dave

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PESO: Panorama

[John Coyle]

The view from my deck last year: development plans may spoil this next year!

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8379467&size=md

Comments welcome


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Re: Wanted to buy: Optio - need advice

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

It's an excellent camera. Being quite used to Panasonic menu syntax, I  
don't find it a nightmare at all.


Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com

On Dec 13, 2008, at 3:10 PM, Dario Bonazza   
wrote:


The Panasonic LX3/Leica Dlux4 approaches the quality of a SRL in  
most respects.


Noise is better than that of Pentax P&S, but cannot match that of a  
DLSR.


Pros:
Fast, excellent lens,
Excellent dynamic range,
24mm shorter focal length,
A meter hard to fool,
RAW capture.

Cons:
High price,
60mm longer focal length,
Bad user interface (a nightmare).

Dario

- Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" >

To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: Wanted to buy: Optio - need advice


Ann, the only "compact" camera with quality comparable to a DSLR  
presently is the Sigma DP1.  Price new about $650.  I've never seen  
one selling used, too new maybe.  It has the quality of a DSLR and  
most of the drawbacks of a compact, according to the reviews I've  
read.  It also uses the Foveon sensor, so it's doubtful that your  
existing Canon software could even come close to properly decoding  
the raw data.


ann sanfedele wrote:

Brendon and Paul

re getting up to the best res...  was just hoping ... :-)

For my own uses I don't need that kind of res  -  I'd like to be  
able to shoot at 1600 with one though...


I haven't kept up with any of this stuff so hoped someone could  
suggest the best bang for a bit of a buck


Thanks for the input

ann

Brendan MacRae wrote:


I don't believe any of them shoot RAW. I think the A40
has the highest resolution number (12MP) but it
doesn't mean much because the sensors in these cameras
are tiny. I doubt you'd be able to do 11" x 17" even
at 300dpi with any consistancy. The newer models do
seem to have slightly better dynamic range than their
older cousins. I have the W60 and it does a much
better job at keeping highlights tamed. The lenses are
also only so-so and all seem prone to abberations to
one degree or another.

It's certainly possible to get great images from the
Optio cameras (at least under heavily controlled
conditions) but I've found after 50,000+ images with
them that they're really best suited for snaps.

-Brendan
--- ann sanfedele  wrote:



I got a little bit of money for my birthday  I
very much liked the Optio Bill Robb had at GFM  - I want  a used  
one

cheap...

Beyond one of you selling it to me...

Do any of these point and shoots shoot raw?

Which has the largest sensor? Can I just hook it up to my  
computer to load?


Can I use my Canon Zoom browser to load stuff?

Recommendations for one for no more than $150  ?

I'd like to be able to pull images out of it big
enough for submitting stuff to stock
(their min requirement is 11 x 17 at 300 ppi and at
least 50 mgs)

want something I can carry with me for quick grab
stuff without taking my more expensive gear
every time I go out.

I'm going to B&H on Sunday to buy printer ink and
paper  -  THey have a few listed  but not enough detail

Refurbished is fine

thanks for help

ann


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RE: PDML Book Project is go!

[Peter McIntosh]

A lurker delurks...

Thanks heaps guys for putting this together.  Volunteers (irrespective of
what they're volunteering for) never receive enough thanks for their work.
Looking forward to seeing the end product.  I've sent two - hopefully
they're good enough.

H... an introduction...

Not sure how long I've been on the list - probably 2-3 years I guess.  I'm
situated in Sydney, Australia, just one hill east of Brian Walters.  Been
running around with an ist-DL and a couple of Pentax lenses for a while,
photographing spasmodically.  And the results reflect it...
www.pbase.com/petergly.  Hopefully more time coming up to allow me to
concentrate on it more.

Oh yeah, BTW - page also works fine on Operas 9.62.

Back to lurking...

Ciao,

Peter in Western Sydney

-Original Message-
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark
Roberts
Sent: Friday, 12 December 2008 02:16
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Subject: PDML Book Project is go!

After a flurry of emails bouncing around the globe and a bit of 
last-minute html/php coding, Scott Loveless, Bill Robb and I have 
decided to have a go at producing a PDML photo book. So everyone start 
going through your shots from this year and pick out your best work!



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PESO - Last night's big moon

[John Celio]

(Note: It's just a big photo of a full moon, there's really nothing that 
special about it aside from the moon being in the news yesterday.)


Recently I discovered the sharpness "sweet spot" in my Pentax 500mm 4.5 is 
at f11.  Last night featured what was apparenly the largest full moon of the 
year, so I went out and shot it when it was almost straight above me.


http://www.neovenator.com/2008/12/nights-full-moon-was-apparently-bigger.html

This image, shot with my K10D, is 800x800.  If I had left the crop at 100%, 
it would have been 919x919.  I applied some unsharp mask to reduce 
atmospheric blur, but I may have overdone it a bit.  I truly wish I could 
find an affordable teleconverter that wouldn't make my 500 look like it had 
vaseline on the front element.


Anyway, this was just for fun.  I'm not expecting comments or anything, but 
thanks for looking. :)


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Re: PESO - from Union Square

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Ann:  Very pleasing composition and nice light here!  Cheers, Christine


- Original Message - 
From: "ann sanfedele" 

To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 9:10 AM
Subject: PESO - from Union Square



http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/435642691_aRC6D/Large

Used Pentax  smc -A 50mm f 1.4 lens on the darkside body (Canon 300d - 
digital rebel)  Not planning on submitting
this one for the book - but it does seem I can still focus manually. the 
actual f stop was 5.6

Bless you, Cotty

ann


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Re: PDML Book information for voyeurs :)

[Ken Waller]

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: "Joseph McAllister" 

Subject: Re: PDML Book information for voyeurs :)



On Dec 13, 2008, at 21:12 , David Savage wrote:


2008/12/14 Brian Walters :


On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 23:17:06 -0500, "PN Stenquist"
 said:


On Dec 13, 2008, at 8:08 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:


Bob W wrote:

Behalf Of Mark Roberts

If you're curious as to who's participating in the PDML book
project (so far), I've put up a dynamically-updated page showing
the photographer's' names and the titles of their photos. No, you
don't get to see their photos; that has to be a surprise ;-)

http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/submissions.php


I'm looking forward to seeing Dario's. Jeanne d'Arc was hot!


She had a lot at stake.


This could result in a flame war.



I think this thread needs to be hosed down.


What a bunch of bright sparks.


Speaking of steaks, is Joan done yet?


Well done I'd say.


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Re: PDML Book information for voyeurs :)

[Joseph McAllister]

On Dec 13, 2008, at 21:12 , David Savage wrote:


2008/12/14 Brian Walters :


On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 23:17:06 -0500, "PN Stenquist"
 said:


On Dec 13, 2008, at 8:08 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:


Bob W wrote:

Behalf Of Mark Roberts

If you're curious as to who's participating in the PDML book
project (so far), I've put up a dynamically-updated page showing
the photographer's' names and the titles of their photos. No, you
don't get to see their photos; that has to be a surprise ;-)

http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/submissions.php


I'm looking forward to seeing Dario's. Jeanne d'Arc was hot!


She had a lot at stake.


This could result in a flame war.



I think this thread needs to be hosed down.


What a bunch of bright sparks.


Speaking of steaks, is Joan done yet?

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Help the Pentaxian Pick Two!

[Joseph McAllister]

As I am very bad at making decisions, and PDML only want two images  
for the book, I'm asking my friends here on the list and around the  
world to help me "Pick Two" from the photographs I just published on  
my Blog.


Go here:   
http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Entries/2008/12/13_Best_Two_-_Page_1_of_3.html

look at all three pages and either leave a comment or send me an email  
(available on every page) with your top choices. You can pick more  
than two, but if you do, please rank them.


Perchiate it belly much!


Joseph McAllister
Lots of gear, not much time


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Re: PDML Book information for voyeurs :)

[David Savage]

2008/12/14 Brian Walters :
>
> On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 23:17:06 -0500, "PN Stenquist"
>  said:
>>
>> On Dec 13, 2008, at 8:08 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>>
>> > Bob W wrote:
>> >>> Behalf Of Mark Roberts
>> >>>
>> >>> If you're curious as to who's participating in the PDML book
>> >>> project (so far), I've put up a dynamically-updated page showing
>> >>> the photographer's' names and the titles of their photos. No, you
>> >>> don't get to see their photos; that has to be a surprise ;-)
>> >>>
>> >>> http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/submissions.php
>> >>>
>> > > I'm looking forward to seeing Dario's. Jeanne d'Arc was hot!
>> >
>> > She had a lot at stake.
>>
>> This could result in a flame war.
>>
>
> I think this thread needs to be hosed down.

What a bunch of bright sparks.

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Re: PDML Book information for voyeurs :)

[Brian Walters]

On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 23:17:06 -0500, "PN Stenquist"
 said:
> 
> On Dec 13, 2008, at 8:08 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
> 
> > Bob W wrote:
> >>> Behalf Of Mark Roberts
> >>>
> >>> If you're curious as to who's participating in the PDML book  
> >>> project (so far), I've put up a dynamically-updated page showing  
> >>> the photographer's' names and the titles of their photos. No, you  
> >>> don't get to see their photos; that has to be a surprise ;-)
> >>>
> >>> http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/submissions.php
> >>>
> > > I'm looking forward to seeing Dario's. Jeanne d'Arc was hot!
> >
> > She had a lot at stake.
> 
> This could result in a flame war.
> 

I think this thread needs to be hosed down.


Cheers

Brian

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RE: PESO - Oz Bird

[Brian Walters]

OK, thanks.

I use Avast too.  I must have looked at the page after the problem was
addressed.



Cheers

Brian

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On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 01:02:11 -, "Bob W"  said:
> All the sirens went off in Avast! When I tried the page later they
> remained
> silent. 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On 
> > Behalf Of Brian Walters
> > Sent: 13 December 2008 22:08
> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> > Subject: RE: PESO - Oz Bird
> > 
> > Hi Bob
> > 
> > On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 11:07:43 -, "Bob W" 
> >  said:
> > > That web page tried to download a trojan and some other 
> > naughtyware onto
> > > my
> > > pc. 
> > 
> > 
> > Just wondering how you became aware of this problem.  Was it an alert
> > from virus protection software?
> > 
> > I looked at John's link and wasn't advised of any problems by my virus
> > scanner (which is kept up to date).
> > 
> > Just curious.
> > 
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 
> > Brian
> > 
> > ++
> > Brian Walters
> > Western Sydney Australia
> > http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On 
> > > > Behalf Of John Coyle
> > > > Sent: 12 December 2008 23:43
> > > > To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
> > > > Subject: PESO - Oz Bird
> > > > 
> > > > Sorry guys - if you were hoping for one of the 
> > sun-bronzed, blonde,
> > > > blue-eyed beauties we get here - this is quite different.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8349547
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Pentax *istD, Tokina 400/5.6, f5.6, shutter speed not 
> > > > recorded, 400ASA.
> > > > 
> > > > Comments welcome
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > John Coyle
> > > > Brisbane, Australia
> > > 
> > 
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Re: PESO: Blood Red

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 12/12/2008 1:42:26 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
jdavi...@yahoo.com writes:
Just got home from driving  my wife to her Audiologist's office. to pick up 
her repaired hearing aid.
I  waited in the car and while gazing around, spotted what I believe to be a 
Blood  Red variety Japanese Maple growing up against the building's gray 
stucco  siding.
Lack of shadows and glare enhanced the look, so had to record it.  (the bag 
of gadgets and a couple camera bodies were keeping me company while I  waited).

Jack

Comments are  welcome

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=364

K10D,  FA 80x...@98mm, f/10, 1/60, ISO 400


Very pretty,  Jack. Well done.

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

-
Warning: I am now  filtering my email, so you may be censored.  

**Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and 
favorite sites in one place.  Try it now. 
(http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom0010)

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Re: PDML Book information for voyeurs :)

[PN Stenquist]

On Dec 13, 2008, at 8:08 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:


Bob W wrote:

Behalf Of Mark Roberts

If you're curious as to who's participating in the PDML book  
project (so far), I've put up a dynamically-updated page showing  
the photographer's' names and the titles of their photos. No, you  
don't get to see their photos; that has to be a surprise ;-)


http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/submissions.php


> I'm looking forward to seeing Dario's. Jeanne d'Arc was hot!

She had a lot at stake.


This could result in a flame war.

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Re: GESO 2008 - emergence - GDG

[PN Stenquist]

I'm not sure I understand the problem with Flash. There's nothing here  
that doesn't load well or work well. A nice presentation.

Paul
On Dec 13, 2008, at 10:20 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:

You really seem to be finding your voice, Godders it isn't my  
kind of voice, but  it is very nicely done and presented.
in the right place and the right time this could  get you somewhere,  
I think - that is , the potential is there for

major money if you get through to the right people...

I like it... though I really dont like using "FLASH"

ann

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


Some stuff I've been working on ...
 http://www.gdgphoto.com/emergence/

All at ISO 800-1600 using the Pentax M50/1.4 near wide open, fitted  
to  the Olympus EC14.


Comments and critique always appreciated.

enjoy
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RE: PESO - Oz Bird

[Anthony Farr]

My guess is that a third party ad being inserted locally is the villain, so
Australian and US viewers weren't exposed, but UK viewers were.

Regards, Anthony

> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Brian Walters
> Sent: Sunday, 14 December 2008 9:08 AM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: RE: PESO - Oz Bird
> 
> Hi Bob
> 
> On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 11:07:43 -, "Bob W"  said:
> > That web page tried to download a trojan and some other naughtyware onto
> > my
> > pc.
> 
> 
> Just wondering how you became aware of this problem.  Was it an alert
> from virus protection software?
> 
> I looked at John's link and wasn't advised of any problems by my virus
> scanner (which is kept up to date).
> 
> Just curious.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
> ++
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Re: PDML Book information for voyeurs :)

[Paul Sorenson]

She certainly was fired up...

Mark Roberts wrote:

Bob W wrote:



Behalf Of Mark Roberts

If you're curious as to who's participating in the PDML book project 
(so far), I've put up a dynamically-updated page showing the 
photographer's' names and the titles of their photos. No, you don't 
get to see their photos; that has to be a surprise ;-)


http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/submissions.php


 > I'm looking forward to seeing Dario's. Jeanne d'Arc was hot!

She had a lot at stake.


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OT: LowePro Orion AW or Inverse 200 Opinions?

[Rick Womer]

My faithful LowePro Off Road gave up the ghost this evening when its front 
buckle broke, after about 15 years of heavy use.  This model is no longer 
available at B&H, Adorama, or Calumet.

The Orion AW and Inverse 200 look interesting.  Has anyone here used them?

Rick

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Re: Wanted to buy: Optio - need advice

[ann sanfedele]

William Robb wrote:



- Original Message - From: "ann sanfedele"
Subject: Re: Wanted to buy: Optio - need advice





William Robb wrote:



- Original Message - From: "ann sanfedele" Subject: Wanted 
to buy: Optio - need advice



I got a little bit of money for my birthday  I very much liked 
the Optio Bill Robb had at GFM  - I want  a used one cheap...




That was an Optio 750. I'm not sure if I'd buy another one. I think 
mine has ground to a halt.


William Robb 




I see...  I gather you wouldn't recommend it then :)

Har!



I gather moss.

Double Har!!

ww


when you are stoned?

triple har
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Re: Wanted to buy: Optio - need advice

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "ann sanfedele"

Subject: Re: Wanted to buy: Optio - need advice





William Robb wrote:



- Original Message - From: "ann sanfedele" Subject: Wanted to 
buy: Optio - need advice



I got a little bit of money for my birthday  I very much liked 
the Optio Bill Robb had at GFM  - I want  a used one cheap...




That was an Optio 750. I'm not sure if I'd buy another one. I think 
mine has ground to a halt.


William Robb 



I see...  I gather you wouldn't recommend it then :)

Har!


I gather moss.

Double Har!!

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Re: Wanted to buy: Optio - need advice

[ann sanfedele]

William Robb wrote:



- Original Message - From: "ann sanfedele" Subject: Wanted to 
buy: Optio - need advice



I got a little bit of money for my birthday  I very much liked 
the Optio Bill Robb had at GFM  - I want  a used one cheap...




That was an Optio 750. I'm not sure if I'd buy another one. I think 
mine has ground to a halt.


William Robb 



I see...  I gather you wouldn't recommend it then :)

Har!

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Re: Lurker Letter of Introduction

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Adam Montoya" 
Subject: Re: Lurker Letter of Introduction





Oh for Pete's sake. There is always a catch isn't there. Hopefully I
don't have to submit to a tar and feathering every so often as well.
:-)


Just the occasional comfy chair.

William Robb

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Re: Wanted to buy: Optio - need advice

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "ann sanfedele" 
Subject: Wanted to buy: Optio - need advice



I got a little bit of money for my birthday  I very much liked the 
Optio Bill Robb had at GFM  - I want  a used one cheap...




That was an Optio 750. I'm not sure if I'd buy another one. 
I think mine has ground to a halt.


William Robb

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Re: GESO 2008 - emergence - GDG

[ann sanfedele]

You really seem to be finding your voice, Godders it isn't my kind 
of voice, but  it is very nicely done and presented.
in the right place and the right time this could  get you somewhere, I 
think - that is , the potential is there for

major money if you get through to the right people...

I like it... though I really dont like using "FLASH"

ann

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Some stuff I've been working on ...


  http://www.gdgphoto.com/emergence/

All at ISO 800-1600 using the Pentax M50/1.4 near wide open, fitted 
to  the Olympus EC14.


Comments and critique always appreciated.

enjoy
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Re: Lurker Letter of Introduction

[Adam Montoya]

On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 3:38 PM,   wrote:
> In a message dated 12/12/2008 12:24:03 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time,
> amont...@gmail.com writes:
> Since I might find two  photos worthy of being stuck into that PDML
> Book, and people are calling for  lurkers to introduce themselves
> before they are allowed in...  I will  delurk(unlurk?). My name is Adam
> Montoya, and I love Pentax. I was born and  raised in Western New York
> and I now reside in New Mexico. I've learned  everything I know about
> photography by falling on my head without protection  (and it shows).
> ;-)  I bought my first SLR(ZX-L/MZ-6) back in '02 to  take photos of
> lightning and fireworks. Since then, I have not shot much of  that
> subject. Go figure. Purchased my DSLR in '06, an *ist DL.  That  camera
> is still my primary.  Needmore...money. . My introduction  is
> now finished, I will go back to lurking. Good  day.
>
> -Adam
>
> ===
> Afraid you don't get off that easily!  You have to show a photography every
> so often (PESO).


Oh for Pete's sake. There is always a catch isn't there. Hopefully I
don't have to submit to a tar and feathering every so often as well.
:-)

-Adam

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Re: Wanted to buy: Optio - need advice

[ann sanfedele]

eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 12/13/2008 11:58:30 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
keit...@dslextreme.com writes:
Can't help you there.  The specs you quoted are printing specs, not 
photographic 
terms. but ask any  camera store how large a print can you make from a good 6 
MP 
CCD sensor. The  Pentax lens is a beaut and well-corrected, and the physical 
size 
of the  camera mean nothing. It's the sensor size and pixel count!


want  something I can carry with me for quick grab stuff without taking 
my  more expensive gear every time I go  out.
   


See:
http://www.flickr.com/cameras/pentax/optio_s6/

And

http://reviews.pricegrabber.com/digital/m/12660620/


=
Think  some aren't getting the point, ann. You've got a Canon and want to 
shoot for the  PUG now and then. (I have the same issues. :-))



YES!

I have a s4i and 
it is just  adequate. But a really handy size. I think keith's recommendation 
is good, in  other words. You can get decent shots with a 6mp DSLR so a 6mp 
Optio is probably  about as low mp as you should go. Several s6s selling on ebay 
right now for  under $150.


Note I do love the size of the Optio S4i (seems same size as  the s6), it 
fits easily into a purse.


Marnie aka Doe  :-)



Thanks, Marnie!

I'll play with a few at B&H tomorrow... ssee what is there for my price. 
I'd rather buy a used one from them
than on ebay  - for one thing, I can take it right back easily if it 
really hoovers.


Joe recommened the z10 but later I read a review that wasn't so nice...

ann



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Re: Wanted to buy: Optio - need advice

[ann sanfedele]

Dario
I have a really good 35mm darkside camera... I just want something that 
is a Pentax so I can legitimately
put recent things in the PUG  and also I liked the macro in the 
optio Robb had at GFMI want to slip something
in my pocket and carry it everywhere so I can get a shot now and then 
that I would miss because I wasn't able

to carry a heavier camera.

I just thought MAYBE that a point and shoot now could do raw captures

best,
ann


Dario Bonazza wrote:

The Panasonic LX3/Leica Dlux4 approaches the quality of a SRL in most 
respects.


Noise is better than that of Pentax P&S, but cannot match that of a DLSR.

Pros:
Fast, excellent lens,
Excellent dynamic range,
24mm shorter focal length,
A meter hard to fool,
RAW capture.

Cons:
High price,
60mm longer focal length,
Bad user interface (a nightmare).

Dario

- Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" 


To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: Wanted to buy: Optio - need advice


Ann, the only "compact" camera with quality comparable to a DSLR 
presently is the Sigma DP1.  Price new about $650.  I've never seen 
one selling used, too new maybe.  It has the quality of a DSLR and 
most of the drawbacks of a compact, according to the reviews I've 
read.  It also uses the Foveon sensor, so it's doubtful that your 
existing Canon software could even come close to properly decoding 
the raw data.


ann sanfedele wrote:


Brendon and Paul

re getting up to the best res...  was just hoping ... :-)

For my own uses I don't need that kind of res  -  I'd like to be 
able to shoot at 1600 with one though...


I haven't kept up with any of this stuff so hoped someone could 
suggest the best bang for a bit of a buck


Thanks for the input

ann

Brendan MacRae wrote:


I don't believe any of them shoot RAW. I think the A40
has the highest resolution number (12MP) but it
doesn't mean much because the sensors in these cameras
are tiny. I doubt you'd be able to do 11" x 17" even
at 300dpi with any consistancy. The newer models do
seem to have slightly better dynamic range than their
older cousins. I have the W60 and it does a much
better job at keeping highlights tamed. The lenses are
also only so-so and all seem prone to abberations to
one degree or another.

It's certainly possible to get great images from the
Optio cameras (at least under heavily controlled
conditions) but I've found after 50,000+ images with
them that they're really best suited for snaps.

-Brendan
--- ann sanfedele  wrote:



I got a little bit of money for my birthday  I
very much liked the Optio Bill Robb had at GFM  - I want  a used one
cheap...

Beyond one of you selling it to me...

Do any of these point and shoots shoot raw?

Which has the largest sensor? Can I just hook it up to my computer 
to load?


Can I use my Canon Zoom browser to load stuff?

Recommendations for one for no more than $150  ?

I'd like to be able to pull images out of it big
enough for submitting stuff to stock
(their min requirement is 11 x 17 at 300 ppi and at
least 50 mgs)

want something I can carry with me for quick grab
stuff without taking my more expensive gear
every time I go out.

I'm going to B&H on Sunday to buy printer ink and
paper  -  THey have a few listed  but not enough detail

Refurbished is fine

thanks for help

ann


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Re: Wanted to buy: Optio - need advice

[Bill Owens]

I've got 3 Optios, the original S, the Optio 50 and the first Optio
MX.  My favorite by far is the Optio MX.  Auto, shutter or aperture
priority and the unique ability for "super macro", which means it will
focus to the front of the lens. The only disadvantage is no optical
viewfinder, however the lcd finder is movable.

Bill

On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 11:36 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> I got a little bit of money for my birthday  I very much liked the Optio
> Bill Robb had at GFM  - I want  a used one cheap...
>
> Beyond one of you selling it to me...
>
> Do any of these point and shoots shoot raw?
>
> Which has the largest sensor?
> Can I just hook it up to my computer to load?
>
> Can I use my Canon Zoom browser to load stuff?
>
> Recommendations for one for no more than $150  ?
>
> I'd like to be able to pull images out of it big enough for submitting stuff
> to stock
> (their min requirement is 11 x 17 at 300 ppi and at least 50 mgs)
>
> want something I can carry with me for quick grab stuff without taking my
> more expensive gear
> every time I go out.
>
> I'm going to B&H on Sunday to buy printer ink and paper  -  THey have a few
> listed  but not enough detail
>
> Refurbished is fine
>
> thanks for help
>
> ann
>
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Re: Pentax will have some announcement this coming Tuesday December 16, 2008

[Tim Øsleby]

I beveave Roman is referring to this
http://pentaxdslrs.blogspot.com/

I have no idea how reliable this source is.

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Re: PDML Book information for voyeurs :)

[Mark Roberts]

Bob W wrote:



Behalf Of Mark Roberts

If you're curious as to who's participating in the PDML book 
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far), I've put up a dynamically-updated page showing the 
photographer's' 
names and the titles of their photos. No, you don't get to see their 
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http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/submissions.php


> I'm looking forward to seeing Dario's. Jeanne d'Arc was hot!

She had a lot at stake.


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RE: Pentax will have some announcement this coming Tuesday December 16, 2008

[Bob W]

> Dear Pentaxians,
> 
> Tune in next Tuesday, December 16, at 2:01 P.M. California 
> time. Pentax 
> will unveil something new.
> 
> Who knows what it will be? I can't wait to see.
> Regards,
> Roman.

I'm expecting it to be a new veil.

Bob


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RE: PESO - Abigail and the Troubador

[Bob W]

That would be a really rock & roll way to die.

> 
> I like this one a lot.
> 
> (Why does he think he needs an amp in a subway tunnel??  
> That's like singing with an amp in the shower.)
> 
> Rick
> 
> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
> 
> 
> --- On Fri, 12/12/08, frank theriault 
>  wrote:
> 
> > From: frank theriault 
> > Subject: PESO - Abigail and the Troubador
> > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> > Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 11:38 AM
> > 
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/12/abigail-and-troubador.html
> > 
> > Comments welcome.


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RE: PESO - Oz Bird

[Bob W]

All the sirens went off in Avast! When I tried the page later they remained
silent. 

> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On 
> Behalf Of Brian Walters
> Sent: 13 December 2008 22:08
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: RE: PESO - Oz Bird
> 
> Hi Bob
> 
> On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 11:07:43 -, "Bob W" 
>  said:
> > That web page tried to download a trojan and some other 
> naughtyware onto
> > my
> > pc. 
> 
> 
> Just wondering how you became aware of this problem.  Was it an alert
> from virus protection software?
> 
> I looked at John's link and wasn't advised of any problems by my virus
> scanner (which is kept up to date).
> 
> Just curious.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
> http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On 
> > > Behalf Of John Coyle
> > > Sent: 12 December 2008 23:43
> > > To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
> > > Subject: PESO - Oz Bird
> > > 
> > > Sorry guys - if you were hoping for one of the 
> sun-bronzed, blonde,
> > > blue-eyed beauties we get here - this is quite different.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8349547
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Pentax *istD, Tokina 400/5.6, f5.6, shutter speed not 
> > > recorded, 400ASA.
> > > 
> > > Comments welcome
> > > 
> > > 
> > > John Coyle
> > > Brisbane, Australia
> > 
> > 
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RE: PDML Book information for voyeurs :)

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I'm looking forward to seeing Dario's. Jeanne d'Arc was hot!

Bob 

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Re: Pentax will have some announcement this coming Tuesday December 16, 2008

[Charles Robinson]

On Dec 13, 2008, at 17:26, John Celio wrote:


Roman wrote:
Tune in next Tuesday, December 16, at 2:01 P.M. California time.  
Pentax

will unveil something new.


Are... are you actually telling us about something that will happen  
in the future, instead of something from last month that we'd  
already discussed? Amazing!




(Might be referring to 2007, we'll just have to wait and see!)   :-)

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Re: Wanted to buy: Optio - need advice

[ann sanfedele]

Keith - Joe McAllister has recommended the z10... it sounds spectacular 
and within my budget...


7x optical zoom and up to 3200 ISO...  
" The Pentax Optio Z10 is a small, compact digital camera 
 with a 
twist - despite being the same size as a pack of playing cards, it 
features a 7x optical zoom lens equivalent to 38-266mm. Furthermore the 
lens is internal and doesn't extend from the camera, protected by a 
plastic screen and a sliding lens cover. The Pentax Z10 has an 8 
megapixel sensor, digital shake reduction mode for both still pictures 
and video, a 2.5 inch LCD monitor 
, ISO 
64-3200 and Face Recognition. A 7x zoom camera is something of a 
departure from the norm for Pentax, who usually specialise in more 
conservative 3x zoom models. Have they bitten off more than they can 
chew with the Z10? Mark Goldstein reviewed the Pentax Optio Z10 to find 
out."


I know 11x17 50mg 300 dpi is printing talk -- its a matter of being able 
to interpolate up to that... 300 dpi = 300ppi


SOunds pretty neat to me... and  B&Hhas one for $124...
I'm going there tomorrow to buy printer ink and paper anyway

ann

keith_w wrote:


ann sanfedele wrote:

I got a little bit of money for my birthday  I very much liked 
the Optio Bill Robb had at GFM  - I want  a used one cheap...


Beyond one of you selling it to me...

Do any of these point and shoots shoot raw?



The Optios won't. They record at 2304 X 1728 pixels at best, and that 
ends up being a jpeg (Exif 2.2)

The fastest setting is ASA (ISO) 200.


Which has the largest sensor?



All the small Optio series, thru S6 at least, have the same sensor, 
1/2.5".



Can I just hook it up to my computer to load?



Yes.


Can I use my Canon Zoom browser to load stuff?

Recommendations for one for no more than $150  ?



The usual asking price for one today is right around that level.

I'd like to be able to pull images out of it big enough for 
submitting stuff to stock (their min requirement is 11 x 17 at 300 
ppi and at

least 50 mgs)



Can't help you there. The specs you quoted are printing specs, not 
photographic terms. but ask any camera store how large a print can you 
make from a good 6 MP CCD sensor. The Pentax lens is a beaut and 
well-corrected, and the physical size of the camera mean nothing. It's 
the sensor size and pixel count!


want something I can carry with me for quick grab stuff without 
taking my more expensive gear every time I go out.



See:
http://www.flickr.com/cameras/pentax/optio_s6/

And

http://reviews.pricegrabber.com/digital/m/12660620/

I'm going to B&H on Sunday to buy printer ink and paper  -  THey have 
a few listed  but not enough detail


Refurbished is fine

thanks for help

ann



keith whaley
I have an S4 and an S5i. Love both of them, for what they are...


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Re: GESO 2008 - emergence - GDG

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 12/13/2008 2:53:24 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
ramar...@mac.com writes:
Some stuff I've been working  on ... 

http://www.gdgphoto.com/emergence/

All at ISO 800-1600 using the Pentax  M50/1.4 near wide open, fitted to  
the Olympus EC14.

Comments  and critique always  appreciated.

enjoy
Godfrey


===
Doesn't do a  lot for me. Seem soft and colors washed out. I realize the 
washed out part is  deliberate, but it and the series doesn't communicate 
anything 
in particular to  me.

There are so many of your shots that I've like so much better (and I  have 
often praised, so I feel I can be honest now. Er, maybe.)

HTH,  Marnie aka Doe 

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Re: Wanted to buy: Optio - need advice

[keith_w]

Dario Bonazza wrote:
The Panasonic LX3/Leica Dlux4 approaches the quality of a SRL in most 
respects.


Noise is better than that of Pentax P&S, but cannot match that of a DLSR.

Pros:
Fast, excellent lens,
Excellent dynamic range,
24mm shorter focal length,
A meter hard to fool,
RAW capture.

Cons:
High price,
60mm longer focal length,
Bad user interface (a nightmare).

Dario


Hi Dario!

You seem to be fond of Leicas, so what can you tell me about my almost brand new 
Leica zoom C1, pro and con?
I'm not particularly impressed with it, so it sits in it's leather case, 
essentially unused...


keith whaley

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Re: Wanted to buy: Optio - need advice

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In a message dated 12/13/2008 11:58:30 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
keit...@dslextreme.com writes:
Can't help you there.  The specs you quoted are printing specs, not 
photographic 
terms. but ask any  camera store how large a print can you make from a good 6 
MP 
CCD sensor. The  Pentax lens is a beaut and well-corrected, and the physical 
size 
of the  camera mean nothing. It's the sensor size and pixel count!

> want  something I can carry with me for quick grab stuff without taking 
> my  more expensive gear every time I go  out.

See:
http://www.flickr.com/cameras/pentax/optio_s6/

And

http://reviews.pricegrabber.com/digital/m/12660620/


=
Think  some aren't getting the point, ann. You've got a Canon and want to 
shoot for the  PUG now and then. (I have the same issues. :-)) I have a s4i and 
it is just  adequate. But a really handy size. I think keith's recommendation 
is good, in  other words. You can get decent shots with a 6mp DSLR so a 6mp 
Optio is probably  about as low mp as you should go. Several s6s selling on 
ebay 
right now for  under $150.

Note I do love the size of the Optio S4i (seems same size as  the s6), it 
fits easily into a purse.

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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Re: GESO 2008 - emergence - GDG

[Ken Waller]

Nicely understated !

As found or arranged? Not sure it matters.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" 

Subject: GESO 2008 - emergence - GDG


Some stuff I've been working on ... 


  http://www.gdgphoto.com/emergence/

All at ISO 800-1600 using the Pentax M50/1.4 near wide open, fitted to  
the Olympus EC14.


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Re: GESO 2008 - emergence - GDG

[Adam Maas]

On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 6:29 PM, keith_w  wrote:
> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>>
>> Some stuff I've been working on ...
>>  http://www.gdgphoto.com/emergence/
>>
>> All at ISO 800-1600 using the Pentax M50/1.4 near wide open, fitted to the
>> Olympus EC14.
>>
>> Comments and critique always appreciated.
>>
>> enjoy
>> Godfrey
>
> Since I didn't recognize that nomenclature, I Googled it.
>
> Over $500 (list) for a 1.4X teleconverter?
>
> H.
>
> BTW, I liked your leaf arrangements...
>
> keith

That's about the used cost of a Leica 1.4x APO Converter for the R
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Re: PESO - Oz Bird

[Adam Maas]

Probably a bogus Ad buy. It's happened to other sites that way.

-Adam

On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 5:03 PM, PN Stenquist  wrote:
> I saw malware alerts on photo.net earlier. I've alerted the appropriate
> people, but I suspect it's just a glith.
> Paul
> On Dec 13, 2008, at 4:35 PM, John Coyle wrote:
>
>> Bob - have you alerted Photo.Net to that?  Obviously I have no control
>> over
>> the page code.
>>
>>
>> John in Brisbane
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
>> Bob
>> W
>> Sent: Saturday, 13 December 2008 9:08 PM
>> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
>> Subject: RE: PESO - Oz Bird
>>
>> That web page tried to download a trojan and some other naughtyware onto
>> my
>> pc.
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On
>>> Behalf Of John Coyle
>>> Sent: 12 December 2008 23:43
>>> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
>>> Subject: PESO - Oz Bird
>>>
>>> Sorry guys - if you were hoping for one of the sun-bronzed, blonde,
>>> blue-eyed beauties we get here - this is quite different.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8349547
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Pentax *istD, Tokina 400/5.6, f5.6, shutter speed not
>>> recorded, 400ASA.
>>>
>>> Comments welcome
>>>
>>>
>>> John Coyle
>>> Brisbane, Australia
>>
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Re: GESO 2008 - emergence - GDG

[Joseph McAllister]

Is the light vignetting from flash, lens, or PS?

All nicely composed images. Balanced forces.

Darker than I'd like, but that's me, as they say...

Joseph McAllister
Lots of gear, not much time

On Dec 13, 2008, at 14:52 , Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


Some stuff I've been working on ... 

http://www.gdgphoto.com/emergence/

All at ISO 800-1600 using the Pentax M50/1.4 near wide open, fitted  
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Re: GESO 2008 - emergence - GDG

[keith_w]

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
Some stuff I've been working on ...


  http://www.gdgphoto.com/emergence/

All at ISO 800-1600 using the Pentax M50/1.4 near wide open, fitted to 
the Olympus EC14.


Comments and critique always appreciated.

enjoy
Godfrey


Since I didn't recognize that nomenclature, I Googled it.

Over $500 (list) for a 1.4X teleconverter?

H.

BTW, I liked your leaf arrangements...

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Re: Pentax will have some announcement this coming Tuesday December 16, 2008

[John Celio]

Roman wrote:

Tune in next Tuesday, December 16, at 2:01 P.M. California time. Pentax
will unveil something new.


Are... are you actually telling us about something that will happen in the 
future, instead of something from last month that we'd already discussed? 
Amazing!


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Re: Wanted to buy: Optio - need advice

[Dario Bonazza]

The Panasonic LX3/Leica Dlux4 approaches the quality of a SRL in most 
respects.


Noise is better than that of Pentax P&S, but cannot match that of a DLSR.

Pros:
Fast, excellent lens,
Excellent dynamic range,
24mm shorter focal length,
A meter hard to fool,
RAW capture.

Cons:
High price,
60mm longer focal length,
Bad user interface (a nightmare).

Dario

- Original Message - 
From: "P. J. Alling" 

To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: Wanted to buy: Optio - need advice


Ann, the only "compact" camera with quality comparable to a DSLR presently 
is the Sigma DP1.  Price new about $650.  I've never seen one selling 
used, too new maybe.  It has the quality of a DSLR and most of the 
drawbacks of a compact, according to the reviews I've read.  It also uses 
the Foveon sensor, so it's doubtful that your existing Canon software 
could even come close to properly decoding the raw data.


ann sanfedele wrote:

Brendon and Paul

re getting up to the best res...  was just hoping ... :-)

For my own uses I don't need that kind of res  -  I'd like to be able to 
shoot at 1600 with one though...


I haven't kept up with any of this stuff so hoped someone could suggest 
the best bang for a bit of a buck


Thanks for the input

ann

Brendan MacRae wrote:


I don't believe any of them shoot RAW. I think the A40
has the highest resolution number (12MP) but it
doesn't mean much because the sensors in these cameras
are tiny. I doubt you'd be able to do 11" x 17" even
at 300dpi with any consistancy. The newer models do
seem to have slightly better dynamic range than their
older cousins. I have the W60 and it does a much
better job at keeping highlights tamed. The lenses are
also only so-so and all seem prone to abberations to
one degree or another.

It's certainly possible to get great images from the
Optio cameras (at least under heavily controlled
conditions) but I've found after 50,000+ images with
them that they're really best suited for snaps.

-Brendan
--- ann sanfedele  wrote:



I got a little bit of money for my birthday  I
very much liked the Optio Bill Robb had at GFM  - I want  a used one
cheap...

Beyond one of you selling it to me...

Do any of these point and shoots shoot raw?

Which has the largest sensor? Can I just hook it up to my computer to 
load?


Can I use my Canon Zoom browser to load stuff?

Recommendations for one for no more than $150  ?

I'd like to be able to pull images out of it big
enough for submitting stuff to stock
(their min requirement is 11 x 17 at 300 ppi and at
least 50 mgs)

want something I can carry with me for quick grab
stuff without taking my more expensive gear
every time I go out.

I'm going to B&H on Sunday to buy printer ink and
paper  -  THey have a few listed  but not enough detail

Refurbished is fine

thanks for help

ann


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GESO 2008 - emergence - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Some stuff I've been working on ... 

 http://www.gdgphoto.com/emergence/

All at ISO 800-1600 using the Pentax M50/1.4 near wide open, fitted to  
the Olympus EC14.


Comments and critique always appreciated.

enjoy
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GESO 2008 - emergence - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Some stuff I've been working on ... 

  http://www.gdgphoto.com/emergence/

All at ISO 800-1600 using the Pentax M50/1.4 near wide open, fitted to  
the Olympus EC14.


Comments and critique always appreciated.

enjoy
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RE: PESO - Oz Bird

[Brian Walters]

Hi Bob

On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 11:07:43 -, "Bob W"  said:
> That web page tried to download a trojan and some other naughtyware onto
> my
> pc. 


Just wondering how you became aware of this problem.  Was it an alert
from virus protection software?

I looked at John's link and wasn't advised of any problems by my virus
scanner (which is kept up to date).

Just curious.


Cheers

Brian

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> > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On 
> > Behalf Of John Coyle
> > Sent: 12 December 2008 23:43
> > To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
> > Subject: PESO - Oz Bird
> > 
> > Sorry guys - if you were hoping for one of the sun-bronzed, blonde,
> > blue-eyed beauties we get here - this is quite different.
> > 
> > 
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8349547
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Pentax *istD, Tokina 400/5.6, f5.6, shutter speed not 
> > recorded, 400ASA.
> > 
> > Comments welcome
> > 
> > 
> > John Coyle
> > Brisbane, Australia
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Re: PESO - Oz Bird

[PN Stenquist]

I saw malware alerts on photo.net earlier. I've alerted the  
appropriate people, but I suspect it's just a glith.

Paul
On Dec 13, 2008, at 4:35 PM, John Coyle wrote:

Bob - have you alerted Photo.Net to that?  Obviously I have no  
control over

the page code.


John in Brisbane






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W
Sent: Saturday, 13 December 2008 9:08 PM
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
Subject: RE: PESO - Oz Bird

That web page tried to download a trojan and some other naughtyware  
onto my

pc.


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Behalf Of John Coyle
Sent: 12 December 2008 23:43
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
Subject: PESO - Oz Bird

Sorry guys - if you were hoping for one of the sun-bronzed, blonde,
blue-eyed beauties we get here - this is quite different.


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8349547



Pentax *istD, Tokina 400/5.6, f5.6, shutter speed not
recorded, 400ASA.

Comments welcome


John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia



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Re: Wanted to buy: Optio - need advice

[Brian Walters]

Hi Ann

Some time ago I was looking for an Optio that I could cart around when I
didn't want to lug the SLR.

I eventually settled on a second hand Optio 550.  It won't do what you
want (but as others have said, no Optio will).  Having said that, I'm
happy with it - unlike many other point-and shoots, it at least allows a
modicum of user control (aperture priority, shutter priority and manual
as well as Program).

It's only 5 megapixel but I was only looking for something in the 5-6 MP
range because I was concerned about unacceptable noise at higher
resolution with the small sensors these things use. It has a max ISO of
400. The best you'll get out of a 5MP camera at 300 dpi is about 8.5 in
x 6.5 in but it can be pushed to 11 x 8 acceptably.

I paid about $A75 on Ebay.

(It's also a nice looking camera :-)>   )



Cheers

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On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 11:36:50 -0500, "ann sanfedele" 
said:
> I got a little bit of money for my birthday  I very much liked the 
> Optio Bill Robb had at GFM  - I want  a used one cheap...
> 
> Beyond one of you selling it to me...
> 
> Do any of these point and shoots shoot raw?
> 
> Which has the largest sensor?  
> 
> Can I just hook it up to my computer to load?
> 
> Can I use my Canon Zoom browser to load stuff?
> 
> Recommendations for one for no more than $150  ?
> 
> I'd like to be able to pull images out of it big enough for submitting 
> stuff to stock
> (their min requirement is 11 x 17 at 300 ppi and at least 50 mgs)
> 
> want something I can carry with me for quick grab stuff without taking 
> my more expensive gear
> every time I go out.
> 
> I'm going to B&H on Sunday to buy printer ink and paper  -  THey have a 
> few listed  but not enough detail
> 
> Refurbished is fine
> 
> thanks for help
> 
> ann
> 
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Re: PESO - from Union Square

[Ken Waller]

Nice lighting!

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "ann sanfedele" 


Subject: PESO - from Union Square



http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/435642691_aRC6D/Large

Used Pentax  smc -A 50mm f 1.4 lens on the darkside body (Canon 300d - 
digital rebel)  Not planning on submitting
this one for the book - but it does seem I can still focus manually. 
the actual f stop was 5.6  


Bless you, Cotty

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RE: PESO - Oz Bird

[John Coyle]

Bob - have you alerted Photo.Net to that?  Obviously I have no control over
the page code.


John in Brisbane






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From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob
W
Sent: Saturday, 13 December 2008 9:08 PM
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
Subject: RE: PESO - Oz Bird

That web page tried to download a trojan and some other naughtyware onto my
pc. 

> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On 
> Behalf Of John Coyle
> Sent: 12 December 2008 23:43
> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
> Subject: PESO - Oz Bird
> 
> Sorry guys - if you were hoping for one of the sun-bronzed, blonde,
> blue-eyed beauties we get here - this is quite different.
> 
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8349547
> 
> 
> 
> Pentax *istD, Tokina 400/5.6, f5.6, shutter speed not 
> recorded, 400ASA.
> 
> Comments welcome
> 
> 
> John Coyle
> Brisbane, Australia


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Re: PESO - Abigail and the Troubador

[Rick Womer]

I like this one a lot.

(Why does he think he needs an amp in a subway tunnel??  That's like singing 
with an amp in the shower.)

Rick

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--- On Fri, 12/12/08, frank theriault  wrote:

> From: frank theriault 
> Subject: PESO - Abigail and the Troubador
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 11:38 AM
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/12/abigail-and-troubador.html
> 
> Comments welcome.
> 
> Thanks,
> frank
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Pentax will have some announcement this coming Tuesday December 16, 2008

[Roman Melihhov]

Dear Pentaxians,

Tune in next Tuesday, December 16, at 2:01 P.M. California time. Pentax 
will unveil something new.


Who knows what it will be? I can't wait to see.
Regards,
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Re: PESO: (little off) I bought a compact camera :)

[PN Stenquist]

Maybe I should shoot a roll with my father's Agfa folder. It's a 6x6.  
I've been meaning to do that ever since I cleaned the lens and warmed  
up the shutter a bit. It had been sitting for at least forty years. It  
focuses by scale as well. As I recall, he got lucky from time to  
time:-).

Paul
On Dec 13, 2008, at 12:48 PM, .timber>>code wrote:

Yes. There is a focus scale on the "lens" and you try to guess the  
distance and set it :)
Previously I used a Zeiss Ikonta (was my grandfather's camera in the  
40's) and that one had the same system.


I have bought a roll of Ilford B&W film and will shoot it probably  
next week (hoping for better weather).


I am really happy for this nice camera.

Cheers,
timber

PN Stenquist írta:

Should be fun. Is focus by scale?
Paul
On Dec 13, 2008, at 12:34 PM, .timber>>code wrote:

Yesterday I went in an antique shop with a friend (we like to go  
such shops :P) and asked them if they have any photographic  
equipment. Well... they did.


First what grabbed my attention is a Zenit 122 with a Jupiter  
f2/85mm lens on it. It was quite cheap so I was sure to buy it :)  
Asked the dealer to get it off from the shelves and as he took the  
other items he picked a leather box... a small brown box approx.  
15x10x4 centimeters... I asked him if I can see what it is. Well  
it was a compact camera from the 30's, a Voigtlander Bessa.


So after some bargain I got the price for the two cams down to ~95$.

So here is my newest compact camera with the highest resolution  
Medium Format available (9x6cm "sensor size" :D), with a fix 110mm  
lens with f4.5-16 aperture, 1/250 fastest shutter speed, dual  
viewfinder, full metal body:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/3105227618/

Oh yeah, the picture was made with the Jupiter 85mm @ f2 :)

And there will be a photo-flea market tomorrow! (I am trying to  
take no money with me :D)


Cheers,
t


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Re: PESO - from Union Square

[Jack Davis]

AHHH..got it, PE5. ;=)

Jack


--- On Sat, 12/13/08, ann sanfedele  wrote:

> From: ann sanfedele 
> Subject: Re: PESO - from Union Square
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 11:50 AM
> Jack Davis wrote:
> 
> > Your sounding very adept with PS5. I was, really,
> thinking of the "falling back" buildings
> phenomenon being more or less balanced by the framing.
> > Nicely rendered!
> > 
> > 
> > Jack
> >  
> ahh!  thanks, Jack
> btw -- I use ELEMENTS 5 -- the regular PS5  sucks :)
> 
> ann
> 
> > 
> > --- On Sat, 12/13/08, ann sanfedele
>  wrote:
> > 
> >  
> >> From: ann sanfedele 
> >> Subject: Re: PESO - from Union Square
> >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
> 
> >> Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 8:44 AM
> >> Jack Davis wrote:
> >> 
> >>
> >>> Ann, tough exposure very well handled. Good
> job
> >>>  
> >> balancing the perspective issues.
> >>
> >>> Jack
> >>> 
> >>>  
> >> Thanks,JAck - and all  you  guys who commented as
> of right
> >> now :-)  
> >> Jack ---
> >> I didn't really fiddle with perspective, per
> se - -- only fiddling I did in photo shop was noising out 2
> birds that looked like
> >> specs of dust in the sky, cropping a bit top and
> bottom ,
> >> and slight upping saturation .. AND more important
> to mention I
> >> grabbed the building far left with that magic wand
> tool and then
> >> clicked on the "lighten shadows-darken
> highlights" thing from
> >> the pulldown "enhance" menu -- the
> building would
> >> have otherwise been almost black...  I'm using
> Elements 5.
> >> 
> >> ann
> >> 
> >> 
> >>
> >>> --- On Sat, 12/13/08, ann sanfedele
> >>>  
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>  
>  From: ann sanfedele
> 
>  Subject: PESO - from Union Square
>  To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
> 
> >> 
> >>
>  Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 7:10 AM
> 
> http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/435642691_aRC6D/Large
>  
>  Used Pentax  smc -A 50mm f 1.4 lens on the
> darkside
> 
> >> body
> >>
>  (Canon 300d - digital rebel)  Not planning
> on
> 
> >> submitting
> >>
>  this one for the book - but it does seem I
> can
> 
> >> still focus
> >>
>  manually. the actual f stop was 5.6  Bless
> you, Cotty
>  
>  ann
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Re: PESO: (little off) I bought a compact camera :)

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Pretty. I used to have Zeiss Ikon Super Ikontas ... had an A (6x4.5)  
and a B (6x6). Always wanted a C as well (6x9) but I stopped shooting  
film before I found a decent one that I could afford.


Another lovely old medium format folder I saw recently was a Balda ...  
I think 6x4.5 ... and just beautiful.


G

On Dec 13, 2008, at 9:34 AM, .timber>>code wrote:

So here is my newest compact camera with the highest resolution  
Medium Format available (9x6cm "sensor size" :D), with a fix 110mm  
lens with f4.5-16 aperture, 1/250 fastest shutter speed, dual  
viewfinder, full metal body:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/3105227618/



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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

[Mark Roberts]

mike wilson wrote:

Mark Roberts wrote:


Dario Bonazza wrote:


Mark Roberts wrote:


Each PDML member (lurkers included!) can submit up to two shots.


I think that lurkers wanting to access the PDML book space should 
beat a knock here, a message just for proofing at least they have 
taken the burden of subscribing (even if it's done just for being in 
the book ;*)


Don't you?


Doug Brewer has suggested that any lurker who wants a photo in the 
book should at least post a "letter of introduction" post to the list. 
Seems fair. (And Doug can check his records to make sure they really 
*are* list members.)


How would anyone post a message of introduction if they were not list 
members?


The message of introduction is for people who *are* list members, but 
are lurking (as opposed to those who aren't members but find this thread 
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RE: Wanted to buy: Optio - need advice

[Bob W]

If you're not wedded to the idea of a Pentax p&s you could look at some of
the Panasonic Lumix cameras which shoot raw. A used one might be in your
range. Similarly, the Canon G-9 or earlier models, although the G-9 is
rather bulky.

Bob 

> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On 
> Behalf Of ann sanfedele
> Sent: 13 December 2008 19:57
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: Wanted to buy: Optio - need advice
> 
> Ok -- I guess I have to emphasise that I'm never gonna get one of the 
> fancy ones --  
> I jsut didn't know if things had gotten so far beyond , rapidly, than 
> I'd see a couple of years ago that
> I could dream --
> 
> I was thinking it would be nice to have one pentax digital to submit 
> things to PUG with -- and the little optio
> soemone had at GFM in 2005 (think it was Robb) waskinda neat
> 
> I sure can't spend more than $150 - I don't care if it is 
> cosmetically 
> nice -- just as long as it works...
> 
> I'm thinking ebay, of course, but non of the listings give 
> enough info 
> -- hope someone had one they
> didn't want anymore here.
> 
> thanks for all the detailed info
> 
> ann
> 
> 
> 
> P. J. Alling wrote:
> 
> > Ann, the only "compact" camera with quality comparable to a DSLR 
> > presently is the Sigma DP1.  Price new about $650.  I've never seen 
> > one selling used, too new maybe.  It has the quality of a DSLR and 
> > most of the  drawbacks of a compact, according to the reviews I've 
> > read.  It also uses the Foveon sensor, so it's doubtful that your 
> > existing Canon software could even come close to properly 
> decoding the 
> > raw data.
> >
> > ann sanfedele wrote:
> >
> >> Brendon and Paul
> >>
> >> re getting up to the best res...  was just hoping ... :-)
> >>
> >> For my own uses I don't need that kind of res  -  I'd like 
> to be able 
> >> to shoot at 1600 with one though...
> >>
> >> I haven't kept up with any of this stuff so hoped someone could 
> >> suggest the best bang for a bit of a buck
> >>
> >> Thanks for the input
> >>
> >> ann
> >>
> >> Brendan MacRae wrote:
> >>
> >>> I don't believe any of them shoot RAW. I think the A40
> >>> has the highest resolution number (12MP) but it
> >>> doesn't mean much because the sensors in these cameras
> >>> are tiny. I doubt you'd be able to do 11" x 17" even
> >>> at 300dpi with any consistancy. The newer models do
> >>> seem to have slightly better dynamic range than their
> >>> older cousins. I have the W60 and it does a much
> >>> better job at keeping highlights tamed. The lenses are
> >>> also only so-so and all seem prone to abberations to
> >>> one degree or another.
> >>>
> >>> It's certainly possible to get great images from the
> >>> Optio cameras (at least under heavily controlled
> >>> conditions) but I've found after 50,000+ images with
> >>> them that they're really best suited for snaps.
> >>>
> >>> -Brendan
> >>> --- ann sanfedele  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>
>  I got a little bit of money for my birthday  I
>  very much liked the Optio Bill Robb had at GFM  - I want 
>  a used one
>  cheap...
> 
>  Beyond one of you selling it to me...
> 
>  Do any of these point and shoots shoot raw?
> 
>  Which has the largest sensor? Can I just hook it up to 
> my computer 
>  to load?
> 
>  Can I use my Canon Zoom browser to load stuff?
> 
>  Recommendations for one for no more than $150  ?
> 
>  I'd like to be able to pull images out of it big
>  enough for submitting stuff to stock
>  (their min requirement is 11 x 17 at 300 ppi and at
>  least 50 mgs)
> 
>  want something I can carry with me for quick grab
>  stuff without taking my more expensive gear
>  every time I go out.
> 
>  I'm going to B&H on Sunday to buy printer ink and
>  paper  -  THey have a few listed  but not enough detail
> 
>  Refurbished is fine
> 
>  thanks for help
> 
>  ann
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Re: Wanted to buy: Optio - need advice

[keith_w]

ann sanfedele wrote:
I got a little bit of money for my birthday  I very much liked the 
Optio Bill Robb had at GFM  - I want  a used one cheap...


Beyond one of you selling it to me...

Do any of these point and shoots shoot raw?


The Optios won't. They record at 2304 X 1728 pixels at best, and that ends up 
being a jpeg (Exif 2.2)

The fastest setting is ASA (ISO) 200.


Which has the largest sensor?


All the small Optio series, thru S6 at least, have the same sensor, 1/2.5".


Can I just hook it up to my computer to load?


Yes.


Can I use my Canon Zoom browser to load stuff?

Recommendations for one for no more than $150  ?


The usual asking price for one today is right around that level.

I'd like to be able to pull images out of it big enough for submitting 
stuff to stock (their min requirement is 11 x 17 at 300 ppi and at

least 50 mgs)


Can't help you there. The specs you quoted are printing specs, not photographic 
terms. but ask any camera store how large a print can you make from a good 6 MP 
CCD sensor. The Pentax lens is a beaut and well-corrected, and the physical size 
of the camera mean nothing. It's the sensor size and pixel count!


want something I can carry with me for quick grab stuff without taking 
my more expensive gear every time I go out.


See:
http://www.flickr.com/cameras/pentax/optio_s6/

And

http://reviews.pricegrabber.com/digital/m/12660620/

I'm going to B&H on Sunday to buy printer ink and paper  -  THey have a 
few listed  but not enough detail


Refurbished is fine

thanks for help

ann


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Re: Wanted to buy: Optio - need advice

[ann sanfedele]

Ok -- I guess I have to emphasise that I'm never gonna get one of the 
fancy ones --  
I jsut didn't know if things had gotten so far beyond , rapidly, than 
I'd see a couple of years ago that

I could dream --

I was thinking it would be nice to have one pentax digital to submit 
things to PUG with -- and the little optio

soemone had at GFM in 2005 (think it was Robb) waskinda neat

I sure can't spend more than $150 - I don't care if it is cosmetically 
nice -- just as long as it works...


I'm thinking ebay, of course, but non of the listings give enough info 
-- hope someone had one they

didn't want anymore here.

thanks for all the detailed info

ann



P. J. Alling wrote:

Ann, the only "compact" camera with quality comparable to a DSLR 
presently is the Sigma DP1.  Price new about $650.  I've never seen 
one selling used, too new maybe.  It has the quality of a DSLR and 
most of the  drawbacks of a compact, according to the reviews I've 
read.  It also uses the Foveon sensor, so it's doubtful that your 
existing Canon software could even come close to properly decoding the 
raw data.


ann sanfedele wrote:


Brendon and Paul

re getting up to the best res...  was just hoping ... :-)

For my own uses I don't need that kind of res  -  I'd like to be able 
to shoot at 1600 with one though...


I haven't kept up with any of this stuff so hoped someone could 
suggest the best bang for a bit of a buck


Thanks for the input

ann

Brendan MacRae wrote:


I don't believe any of them shoot RAW. I think the A40
has the highest resolution number (12MP) but it
doesn't mean much because the sensors in these cameras
are tiny. I doubt you'd be able to do 11" x 17" even
at 300dpi with any consistancy. The newer models do
seem to have slightly better dynamic range than their
older cousins. I have the W60 and it does a much
better job at keeping highlights tamed. The lenses are
also only so-so and all seem prone to abberations to
one degree or another.

It's certainly possible to get great images from the
Optio cameras (at least under heavily controlled
conditions) but I've found after 50,000+ images with
them that they're really best suited for snaps.

-Brendan
--- ann sanfedele  wrote:

 


I got a little bit of money for my birthday  I
very much liked the Optio Bill Robb had at GFM  - I want  a used one
cheap...

Beyond one of you selling it to me...

Do any of these point and shoots shoot raw?

Which has the largest sensor? Can I just hook it up to my computer 
to load?


Can I use my Canon Zoom browser to load stuff?

Recommendations for one for no more than $150  ?

I'd like to be able to pull images out of it big
enough for submitting stuff to stock
(their min requirement is 11 x 17 at 300 ppi and at
least 50 mgs)

want something I can carry with me for quick grab
stuff without taking my more expensive gear
every time I go out.

I'm going to B&H on Sunday to buy printer ink and
paper  -  THey have a few listed  but not enough detail

Refurbished is fine

thanks for help

ann


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Re: PESO - from Union Square

[ann sanfedele]

Jack Davis wrote:


Your sounding very adept with PS5. I was, really, thinking of the "falling 
back" buildings phenomenon being more or less balanced by the framing.
Nicely rendered!


Jack
 


ahh!  thanks, Jack
btw -- I use ELEMENTS 5 -- the regular PS5  sucks :)

ann



--- On Sat, 12/13/08, ann sanfedele  wrote:

 


From: ann sanfedele 
Subject: Re: PESO - from Union Square
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 8:44 AM
Jack Davis wrote:

   


Ann, tough exposure very well handled. Good job
 


balancing the perspective issues.
   


Jack

 


Thanks,JAck - and all  you  guys who commented as of right
now :-)  


Jack ---
I didn't really fiddle with perspective, per se - -- 
only fiddling I 
did in photo shop was noising out 2 birds that looked like

specs of dust in the sky, cropping a bit top and bottom ,
and slight 
upping saturation .. AND more important to mention I
grabbed the 
building far left with that magic wand tool and then
clicked on the 
"lighten shadows-darken highlights" thing from

the pulldown "enhance" menu -- the building would
have otherwise been 
almost black...  I'm using Elements 5.


ann


   


--- On Sat, 12/13/08, ann sanfedele
 


 wrote:
   




 


From: ann sanfedele 
Subject: PESO - from Union Square
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
   



   


Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 7:10 AM
http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/435642691_aRC6D/Large

Used Pentax  smc -A 50mm f 1.4 lens on the darkside
   


body
   


(Canon 300d - digital rebel)  Not planning on
   


submitting
   


this one for the book - but it does seem I can
   


still focus
   

manually. the actual f stop was 5.6  
Bless you, Cotty


ann


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Re: Wanted to buy: Optio - need advice

[Adam Maas]

On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 1:27 PM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> Ann, the only "compact" camera with quality comparable to a DSLR presently
> is the Sigma DP1.  Price new about $650.  I've never seen one selling used,
> too new maybe.  It has the quality of a DSLR and most of the  drawbacks of a
> compact, according to the reviews I've read.  It also uses the Foveon
> sensor, so it's doubtful that your existing Canon software could even come
> close to properly decoding the raw data.
>

Having seen a used DP1 (and tried it), it has most of the drawbacks of
an old compact, the current lot are much better cameras than the DP1
apart from the sensor. It's very slow, very unresponsive, the LCD
sucks (an issue when that's your only viewfinder) and generally poor
handling. Sigma's managed to come up with a P&S that's less
competitive than its SLR line (and that's something since the Sigma
SLR's make the Pentax MZ-series seem like the pinnacle of technology)
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Re: Wanted to buy: Optio - need advice

[P. J. Alling]

Ann, the only "compact" camera with quality comparable to a DSLR 
presently is the Sigma DP1.  Price new about $650.  I've never seen one 
selling used, too new maybe.  It has the quality of a DSLR and most of 
the  drawbacks of a compact, according to the reviews I've read.  It 
also uses the Foveon sensor, so it's doubtful that your existing Canon 
software could even come close to properly decoding the raw data.


ann sanfedele wrote:

Brendon and Paul

re getting up to the best res...  was just hoping ... :-)

For my own uses I don't need that kind of res  -  I'd like to be able 
to shoot at 1600 with one though...


I haven't kept up with any of this stuff so hoped someone could 
suggest the best bang for a bit of a buck


Thanks for the input

ann

Brendan MacRae wrote:


I don't believe any of them shoot RAW. I think the A40
has the highest resolution number (12MP) but it
doesn't mean much because the sensors in these cameras
are tiny. I doubt you'd be able to do 11" x 17" even
at 300dpi with any consistancy. The newer models do
seem to have slightly better dynamic range than their
older cousins. I have the W60 and it does a much
better job at keeping highlights tamed. The lenses are
also only so-so and all seem prone to abberations to
one degree or another.

It's certainly possible to get great images from the
Optio cameras (at least under heavily controlled
conditions) but I've found after 50,000+ images with
them that they're really best suited for snaps.

-Brendan
--- ann sanfedele  wrote:

 


I got a little bit of money for my birthday  I
very much liked the Optio Bill Robb had at GFM  - I want  a used one
cheap...

Beyond one of you selling it to me...

Do any of these point and shoots shoot raw?

Which has the largest sensor? 
Can I just hook it up to my computer to load?


Can I use my Canon Zoom browser to load stuff?

Recommendations for one for no more than $150  ?

I'd like to be able to pull images out of it big
enough for submitting stuff to stock
(their min requirement is 11 x 17 at 300 ppi and at
least 50 mgs)

want something I can carry with me for quick grab
stuff without taking my more expensive gear
every time I go out.

I'm going to B&H on Sunday to buy printer ink and
paper  -  THey have a few listed  but not enough detail

Refurbished is fine

thanks for help

ann


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Re: PESO - from Union Square

[Jack Davis]

Your sounding very adept with PS5. I was, really, thinking of the "falling 
back" buildings phenomenon being more or less balanced by the framing.
Nicely rendered!


Jack


--- On Sat, 12/13/08, ann sanfedele  wrote:

> From: ann sanfedele 
> Subject: Re: PESO - from Union Square
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 8:44 AM
> Jack Davis wrote:
> 
> >Ann, tough exposure very well handled. Good job
> balancing the perspective issues.
> >
> >Jack
> >
> Thanks,JAck - and all  you  guys who commented as of right
> now :-)  
> 
> Jack ---
> I didn't really fiddle with perspective, per se - -- 
> only fiddling I 
> did in photo shop was noising out 2 birds that looked like
> specs of dust in the sky, cropping a bit top and bottom ,
> and slight 
> upping saturation .. AND more important to mention I
> grabbed the 
> building far left with that magic wand tool and then
> clicked on the 
> "lighten shadows-darken highlights" thing from
> the pulldown "enhance" menu -- the building would
> have otherwise been 
> almost black...  I'm using Elements 5.
> 
> ann
> 
> 
> >
> >--- On Sat, 12/13/08, ann sanfedele
>  wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>From: ann sanfedele 
> >>Subject: PESO - from Union Square
> >>To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
> 
> >>Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 7:10 AM
> >>http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/435642691_aRC6D/Large
> >>
> >>Used Pentax  smc -A 50mm f 1.4 lens on the darkside
> body
> >>(Canon 300d - digital rebel)  Not planning on
> submitting
> >>this one for the book - but it does seem I can
> still focus
> >>manually. the actual f stop was 5.6  
> >>Bless you, Cotty
> >>
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Re: Wanted to buy: Optio - need advice

[ann sanfedele]

Brendon and Paul

re getting up to the best res...  was just hoping ... :-)

For my own uses I don't need that kind of res  -  I'd like to be able to 
shoot at 1600 with one though...


I haven't kept up with any of this stuff so hoped someone could suggest 
the best bang for a bit of a buck


Thanks for the input

ann

Brendan MacRae wrote:


I don't believe any of them shoot RAW. I think the A40
has the highest resolution number (12MP) but it
doesn't mean much because the sensors in these cameras
are tiny. I doubt you'd be able to do 11" x 17" even
at 300dpi with any consistancy. The newer models do
seem to have slightly better dynamic range than their
older cousins. I have the W60 and it does a much
better job at keeping highlights tamed. The lenses are
also only so-so and all seem prone to abberations to
one degree or another.

It's certainly possible to get great images from the
Optio cameras (at least under heavily controlled
conditions) but I've found after 50,000+ images with
them that they're really best suited for snaps.

-Brendan
--- ann sanfedele  wrote:

 


I got a little bit of money for my birthday  I
very much liked the 
Optio Bill Robb had at GFM  - I want  a used one

cheap...

Beyond one of you selling it to me...

Do any of these point and shoots shoot raw?

Which has the largest sensor?  


Can I just hook it up to my computer to load?

Can I use my Canon Zoom browser to load stuff?

Recommendations for one for no more than $150  ?

I'd like to be able to pull images out of it big
enough for submitting 
stuff to stock

(their min requirement is 11 x 17 at 300 ppi and at
least 50 mgs)

want something I can carry with me for quick grab
stuff without taking 
my more expensive gear

every time I go out.

I'm going to B&H on Sunday to buy printer ink and
paper  -  THey have a 
few listed  but not enough detail


Refurbished is fine

thanks for help

ann


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Re: PESO: (little off) I bought a compact camera :)

[P. J. Alling]

It appears to be a Bessa I so even before timber replies I would say 
yes.  Thought that might be a bit fishy...


PN Stenquist wrote:

Should be fun. Is focus by scale?
Paul
On Dec 13, 2008, at 12:34 PM, .timber>>code wrote:

Yesterday I went in an antique shop with a friend (we like to go such 
shops :P) and asked them if they have any photographic equipment. 
Well... they did.


First what grabbed my attention is a Zenit 122 with a Jupiter f2/85mm 
lens on it. It was quite cheap so I was sure to buy it :) Asked the 
dealer to get it off from the shelves and as he took the other items 
he picked a leather box... a small brown box approx. 15x10x4 
centimeters... I asked him if I can see what it is. Well it was a 
compact camera from the 30's, a Voigtlander Bessa.


So after some bargain I got the price for the two cams down to ~95$.

So here is my newest compact camera with the highest resolution 
Medium Format available (9x6cm "sensor size" :D), with a fix 110mm 
lens with f4.5-16 aperture, 1/250 fastest shutter speed, dual 
viewfinder, full metal body:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/3105227618/

Oh yeah, the picture was made with the Jupiter 85mm @ f2 :)

And there will be a photo-flea market tomorrow! (I am trying to take 
no money with me :D)


Cheers,
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Re: PESO: (little off) I bought a compact camera :)

[.timber>>code]

Yes. There is a focus scale on the "lens" and you try to guess the 
distance and set it :)
Previously I used a Zeiss Ikonta (was my grandfather's camera in the 
40's) and that one had the same system.


I have bought a roll of Ilford B&W film and will shoot it probably next 
week (hoping for better weather).


I am really happy for this nice camera.

Cheers,
timber

PN Stenquist írta:

Should be fun. Is focus by scale?
Paul
On Dec 13, 2008, at 12:34 PM, .timber>>code wrote:

Yesterday I went in an antique shop with a friend (we like to go such 
shops :P) and asked them if they have any photographic equipment. 
Well... they did.


First what grabbed my attention is a Zenit 122 with a Jupiter f2/85mm 
lens on it. It was quite cheap so I was sure to buy it :) Asked the 
dealer to get it off from the shelves and as he took the other items 
he picked a leather box... a small brown box approx. 15x10x4 
centimeters... I asked him if I can see what it is. Well it was a 
compact camera from the 30's, a Voigtlander Bessa.


So after some bargain I got the price for the two cams down to ~95$.

So here is my newest compact camera with the highest resolution 
Medium Format available (9x6cm "sensor size" :D), with a fix 110mm 
lens with f4.5-16 aperture, 1/250 fastest shutter speed, dual 
viewfinder, full metal body:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/3105227618/

Oh yeah, the picture was made with the Jupiter 85mm @ f2 :)

And there will be a photo-flea market tomorrow! (I am trying to take 
no money with me :D)


Cheers,
t


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Re: PESO: (little off) I bought a compact camera :)

[PN Stenquist]

Should be fun. Is focus by scale?
Paul
On Dec 13, 2008, at 12:34 PM, .timber>>code wrote:

Yesterday I went in an antique shop with a friend (we like to go  
such shops :P) and asked them if they have any photographic  
equipment. Well... they did.


First what grabbed my attention is a Zenit 122 with a Jupiter  
f2/85mm lens on it. It was quite cheap so I was sure to buy it :)  
Asked the dealer to get it off from the shelves and as he took the  
other items he picked a leather box... a small brown box approx.  
15x10x4 centimeters... I asked him if I can see what it is. Well it  
was a compact camera from the 30's, a Voigtlander Bessa.


So after some bargain I got the price for the two cams down to ~95$.

So here is my newest compact camera with the highest resolution  
Medium Format available (9x6cm "sensor size" :D), with a fix 110mm  
lens with f4.5-16 aperture, 1/250 fastest shutter speed, dual  
viewfinder, full metal body:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/3105227618/

Oh yeah, the picture was made with the Jupiter 85mm @ f2 :)

And there will be a photo-flea market tomorrow! (I am trying to take  
no money with me :D)


Cheers,
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PESO: (little off) I bought a compact camera :)

[.timber>>code]

Yesterday I went in an antique shop with a friend (we like to go such 
shops :P) and asked them if they have any photographic equipment. 
Well... they did.


First what grabbed my attention is a Zenit 122 with a Jupiter f2/85mm 
lens on it. It was quite cheap so I was sure to buy it :) Asked the 
dealer to get it off from the shelves and as he took the other items he 
picked a leather box... a small brown box approx. 15x10x4 centimeters... 
I asked him if I can see what it is. Well it was a compact camera from 
the 30's, a Voigtlander Bessa.


So after some bargain I got the price for the two cams down to ~95$.

So here is my newest compact camera with the highest resolution Medium 
Format available (9x6cm "sensor size" :D), with a fix 110mm lens with 
f4.5-16 aperture, 1/250 fastest shutter speed, dual viewfinder, full 
metal body:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/3105227618/

Oh yeah, the picture was made with the Jupiter 85mm @ f2 :)

And there will be a photo-flea market tomorrow! (I am trying to take no 
money with me :D)


Cheers,
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Re: Wanted to buy: Optio - need advice

[Brendan MacRae]

I don't believe any of them shoot RAW. I think the A40
has the highest resolution number (12MP) but it
doesn't mean much because the sensors in these cameras
are tiny. I doubt you'd be able to do 11" x 17" even
at 300dpi with any consistancy. The newer models do
seem to have slightly better dynamic range than their
older cousins. I have the W60 and it does a much
better job at keeping highlights tamed. The lenses are
also only so-so and all seem prone to abberations to
one degree or another.

It's certainly possible to get great images from the
Optio cameras (at least under heavily controlled
conditions) but I've found after 50,000+ images with
them that they're really best suited for snaps.

-Brendan
--- ann sanfedele  wrote:

> I got a little bit of money for my birthday  I
> very much liked the 
> Optio Bill Robb had at GFM  - I want  a used one
> cheap...
> 
> Beyond one of you selling it to me...
> 
> Do any of these point and shoots shoot raw?
> 
> Which has the largest sensor?  
> 
> Can I just hook it up to my computer to load?
> 
> Can I use my Canon Zoom browser to load stuff?
> 
> Recommendations for one for no more than $150  ?
> 
> I'd like to be able to pull images out of it big
> enough for submitting 
> stuff to stock
> (their min requirement is 11 x 17 at 300 ppi and at
> least 50 mgs)
> 
> want something I can carry with me for quick grab
> stuff without taking 
> my more expensive gear
> every time I go out.
> 
> I'm going to B&H on Sunday to buy printer ink and
> paper  -  THey have a 
> few listed  but not enough detail
> 
> Refurbished is fine
> 
> thanks for help
> 
> ann
> 
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Re: PESO - from Union Square

[PN Stenquist]

Hi Ann,
No point and shoot that I know of has a large enough sensor to deliver  
the kind of image quality you need for 50 meg stock images. It's just  
a matter of physics. There are cameras that are more compact than a  
DSLR that can deliver quality images but not for less than $150, even  
on the used market.

Paul
On Dec 13, 2008, at 11:44 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:




Jack Davis wrote:

Ann, tough exposure very well handled. Good job balancing the  
perspective issues.


Jack


Thanks,JAck - and all  you  guys who commented as of right now :-)
Jack ---
I didn't really fiddle with perspective, per se - --  only fiddling  
I did in photo shop was noising out 2 birds that looked like
specs of dust in the sky, cropping a bit top and bottom , and slight  
upping saturation .. AND more important to mention I grabbed the  
building far left with that magic wand tool and then clicked on the  
"lighten shadows-darken highlights" thing from
the pulldown "enhance" menu -- the building would have otherwise  
been almost black...  I'm using Elements 5.


ann




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From: ann sanfedele 
Subject: PESO - from Union Square
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 7:10 AM
http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/435642691_aRC6D/Large

Used Pentax  smc -A 50mm f 1.4 lens on the darkside body
(Canon 300d - digital rebel)  Not planning on submitting
this one for the book - but it does seem I can still focus
manually. the actual f stop was 5.6  Bless you, Cotty

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Re: PESO - from Union Square

[David J Brooks]

Very nice, Ann

Dave

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> Used Pentax  smc -A 50mm f 1.4 lens on the darkside body (Canon 300d -
> digital rebel)  Not planning on submitting
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> actual f stop was 5.6
> Bless you, Cotty
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Re: Smiley's people

[Doug]

On Dec 13, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Bob W wrote:


Some interesting pictures from wartime Albania:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/08/programmes_an_agent_in_alba
nia/html/1.stm

from this story:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_778/7780476.stm

Bob


literally.

that's fascinating.

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Re: PESO - from Union Square

[ann sanfedele]

Jack Davis wrote:


Ann, tough exposure very well handled. Good job balancing the perspective 
issues.

Jack

Thanks,JAck - and all  you  guys who commented as of right now :-)  


Jack ---
I didn't really fiddle with perspective, per se - --  only fiddling I 
did in photo shop was noising out 2 birds that looked like
specs of dust in the sky, cropping a bit top and bottom , and slight 
upping saturation .. AND more important to mention I grabbed the 
building far left with that magic wand tool and then clicked on the 
"lighten shadows-darken highlights" thing from
the pulldown "enhance" menu -- the building would have otherwise been 
almost black...  I'm using Elements 5.


ann




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From: ann sanfedele 
Subject: PESO - from Union Square
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 7:10 AM
http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/435642691_aRC6D/Large

Used Pentax  smc -A 50mm f 1.4 lens on the darkside body
(Canon 300d - digital rebel)  Not planning on submitting
this one for the book - but it does seem I can still focus
manually. the actual f stop was 5.6  
Bless you, Cotty


ann


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Wanted to buy: Optio - need advice

[ann sanfedele]

I got a little bit of money for my birthday  I very much liked the 
Optio Bill Robb had at GFM  - I want  a used one cheap...


Beyond one of you selling it to me...

Do any of these point and shoots shoot raw?

Which has the largest sensor?  


Can I just hook it up to my computer to load?

Can I use my Canon Zoom browser to load stuff?

Recommendations for one for no more than $150  ?

I'd like to be able to pull images out of it big enough for submitting 
stuff to stock

(their min requirement is 11 x 17 at 300 ppi and at least 50 mgs)

want something I can carry with me for quick grab stuff without taking 
my more expensive gear

every time I go out.

I'm going to B&H on Sunday to buy printer ink and paper  -  THey have a 
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Refurbished is fine

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Re: PESO - from Union Square

[Adam Maas]

On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 10:10 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/435642691_aRC6D/Large
>
> Used Pentax  smc -A 50mm f 1.4 lens on the darkside body (Canon 300d -
> digital rebel)  Not planning on submitting
> this one for the book - but it does seem I can still focus manually. the
> actual f stop was 5.6
> Bless you, Cotty
>
> ann
>


Nice cityscape, I quite like it.

-Adam

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Smiley's people

[Bob W]

Some interesting pictures from wartime Albania:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/08/programmes_an_agent_in_alba
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from this story:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_778/7780476.stm

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Re: PESO - Vespa in Little Italy

[PN Stenquist]

A good job here managing the heavy backlight and an interesting shot.  
Well done.

Paul
On Dec 13, 2008, at 10:26 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:


frank theriault wrote:

This was taken back in September or October on a lovely mild day.  I
originally edited it in Picassa, and not very successfully at that.
I've just re-edited it in FS, and while not nearly as nice as I think
I could do in PS, I think I'm getting better at using the freebie
software:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/10/vespa-in-little-italy.html

Yet another scooter shot for my collection.  I really like their
expressions:  He's taking his driving so seriously, while she's
obviously having a lot of fun.

Comments welcome.



That's just a super shot, Frank.  It should be hanging in a little  
bistro somewhere.  It's also a ringing endorsement of freebie online  
software.  You certainly haven't let your computer woes stop you. :-)


-bmw

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Re: PESO - from Union Square

[Jack Davis]

Ann, tough exposure very well handled. Good job balancing the perspective 
issues.

Jack


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> From: ann sanfedele 
> Subject: PESO - from Union Square
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 7:10 AM
> http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/435642691_aRC6D/Large
> 
> Used Pentax  smc -A 50mm f 1.4 lens on the darkside body
> (Canon 300d - digital rebel)  Not planning on submitting
> this one for the book - but it does seem I can still focus
> manually. the actual f stop was 5.6  
> Bless you, Cotty
> 
> ann
> 
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Re: PESO - from Union Square

[PN Stenquist]

Nicely rendered. When I worked on 16th and Fifth I used to eat lunch  
in the park. I remember that view very well. Some great old buildings  
on the north side of the park.

Paul
On Dec 13, 2008, at 10:10 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/435642691_aRC6D/ 
Large


Used Pentax  smc -A 50mm f 1.4 lens on the darkside body (Canon 300d  
- digital rebel)  Not planning on submitting
this one for the book - but it does seem I can still focus manually.  
the actual f stop was 5.6

Bless you, Cotty

ann


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Re: PESO - Vespa in Little Italy

[Bruce Walker]

frank theriault wrote:

This was taken back in September or October on a lovely mild day.  I
originally edited it in Picassa, and not very successfully at that.
I've just re-edited it in FS, and while not nearly as nice as I think
I could do in PS, I think I'm getting better at using the freebie
software:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/10/vespa-in-little-italy.html

Yet another scooter shot for my collection.  I really like their
expressions:  He's taking his driving so seriously, while she's
obviously having a lot of fun.

Comments welcome.
  


That's just a super shot, Frank.  It should be hanging in a little 
bistro somewhere.  It's also a ringing endorsement of freebie online 
software.  You certainly haven't let your computer woes stop you. :-)


-bmw

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Re: Lurker Letter of Introduction

[Jack Davis]

Adam, nice reward for considerable effort and dedication. Well done!

Jack


--- On Sat, 12/13/08, Christine Aguila  wrote:

> From: Christine Aguila 
> Subject: Re: Lurker Letter of Introduction
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 7:03 AM
> From: "Adam Montoya" 
> >> --
> >
> > Hi there Cotty,
> >
> > Its been a while since I last took a photo of
> lighting. I never seem
> > to have my camera handy when it pops up.  Last photo I
> took was this
> > one:
> http://mountainfort.com/gallery/3040090_G8Yrt/1/254352626_H2nMe
> 
> 
> Hi Adam:  Nice one!  And the macro work looks nice as well.
>  Cheers, 
> Christine 
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Re: Lurker Letter of Introduction

[Christine Aguila]

From: "Adam Montoya" 

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Hi there Cotty,

Its been a while since I last took a photo of lighting. I never seem
to have my camera handy when it pops up.  Last photo I took was this
one: http://mountainfort.com/gallery/3040090_G8Yrt/1/254352626_H2nMe



Hi Adam:  Nice one!  And the macro work looks nice as well.  Cheers, 
Christine 




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PESO - from Union Square

[ann sanfedele]

http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/435642691_aRC6D/Large

Used Pentax  smc -A 50mm f 1.4 lens on the darkside body (Canon 300d - 
digital rebel)  Not planning on submitting
this one for the book - but it does seem I can still focus manually. 
the actual f stop was 5.6  


Bless you, Cotty

ann


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Re: Lurker Letter of Introduction

[ann sanfedele]

Adam Montoya wrote:


On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 4:26 AM, Cotty  wrote:
 


On 13/12/08, Adam Montoya, discombobulated, unleashed:

   


Its been a while since I last took a photo of lighting. I never seem
to have my camera handy when it pops up.  Last photo I took was this
one: http://mountainfort.com/gallery/3040090_G8Yrt/1/254352626_H2nMe
 


Like it.

   


I like it, too , Adam and I see you are a fellow smugmugger :-)

Welcome to unlurking - hope you like PUNS!
ann
annsan.smugmug.com


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Re: Fw: Off List: Re: Bogen 3221 Tripod

[Sandy Harris]

Cotty  wrote:

 > Some guys have a "thing" for sheep.

 Leave my mistress out of this please.

>>> Baaah! She wool love it.
>>
>>Don't ewe start too.
>
> Just ramming it home.

The Stones visit Scotland:
"Hey, McLeod. Get off of my ewe."

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Re: Lurker Letter of Introduction

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 12/13/2008 3:00:15 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
amont...@gmail.com writes:
Hi there Cotty,

Its  been a while since I last took a photo of lighting. I never seem
to have my  camera handy when it pops up.  Last photo I took was this
one:  http://mountainfort.com/gallery/3040090_G8Yrt/1/254352626_H2nMe

-Adam

==
Nice!

BTW,  I like your contrails pic (much better than mine. Heh.)

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

-
Warning: I am now  filtering my email, so you may be censored.  

**Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and 
favorite sites in one place.  Try it now. 
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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

[mike wilson]

Mark Roberts wrote:


Dario Bonazza wrote:


Mark Roberts wrote:


Each PDML member (lurkers included!) can submit up to two shots.



I think that lurkers wanting to access the PDML book space should 
beat a knock here, a message just for proofing at least they have 
taken the burden of subscribing (even if it's done just for being in 
the book ;*)


Don't you?



Doug Brewer has suggested that any lurker who wants a photo in the 
book should at least post a "letter of introduction" post to the list. 
Seems fair. (And Doug can check his records to make sure they really 
*are* list members.)


How would anyone post a message of introduction if they were not list 
members?


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Re: Fw: Off List: Re: Bogen 3221 Tripod

[mike wilson]

Cotty wrote:

 


Some guys have a "thing" for sheep.
 


Leave my mistress out of this please.

   


Baaah! She wool love it.
 


Don't ewe start too.
   



Just ramming it home.
 


Horny bugger.

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Re: Blood Red

[Jack Davis]

Yes, that's what made the difference for me.
Thanks for commenting, Ken.

Jack


--- On Fri, 12/12/08, Ken Waller  wrote:

> From: Ken Waller 
> Subject: Re: Blood Red
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 9:52 PM
> Love the color palette !
> 
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Jack Davis"
> 
> Subject: PESO: Blood Red
> 
> 
> > Just got home from driving my wife to her
> Audiologist's office. to pick up her repaired hearing
> aid.
> > I waited in the car and while gazing around, spotted
> what I believe to be a Blood Red variety Japanese Maple
> growing up against the building's gray stucco siding.
> > Lack of shadows and glare enhanced the look, so had to
> record it. (the bag of gadgets and a couple camera bodies
> were keeping me company while I waited).
> > 
> > Jack
> > 
> > Comments are welcome
> > 
> >
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=364
> > 
> > K10D, FA 80x...@98mm, f/10, 1/60, ISO 400
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OT: Cycling history

[Bob W]

Mostly British chaps in black & white:
http://cyclinghistory.blogspot.com/

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Re: Lurker Letter of Introduction

[Adam Montoya]

On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 4:26 AM, Cotty  wrote:
> On 13/12/08, Adam Montoya, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>> Its been a while since I last took a photo of lighting. I never seem
>>to have my camera handy when it pops up.  Last photo I took was this
>>one: http://mountainfort.com/gallery/3040090_G8Yrt/1/254352626_H2nMe
>
> Like it.
>
> Looked around your pics - you have some excellent macro work in there
>
> 
>
> You seem to like paintball as well ;-)
>
> Good work mate.
>
> --
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>
> Cheers,
>  Cotty

Airsoft actually, but milsim just the same.   Thanks for the kind words.

-Adam

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Re: Lurker Letter of Introduction

[Cotty]

On 13/12/08, Adam Montoya, discombobulated, unleashed:

> Its been a while since I last took a photo of lighting. I never seem
>to have my camera handy when it pops up.  Last photo I took was this
>one: http://mountainfort.com/gallery/3040090_G8Yrt/1/254352626_H2nMe

Like it.

Looked around your pics - you have some excellent macro work in there



You seem to like paintball as well ;-)

Good work mate.

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Re: Lurker Letter of Introduction

[Cotty]

On 13/12/08, Adam Montoya, discombobulated, unleashed:

> I never seem
>to have my camera handy when it pops up

I find this all the time.

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Re: Fw: Off List: Re: Bogen 3221 Tripod

[Cotty]

>>> > Some guys have a "thing" for sheep.
>>>
>>> Leave my mistress out of this please.
>>>
>> Baaah! She wool love it.
>
>Don't ewe start too.

Just ramming it home.


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RE: PESO - Oz Bird

[Bob W]

That web page tried to download a trojan and some other naughtyware onto my
pc. 

> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On 
> Behalf Of John Coyle
> Sent: 12 December 2008 23:43
> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
> Subject: PESO - Oz Bird
> 
> Sorry guys - if you were hoping for one of the sun-bronzed, blonde,
> blue-eyed beauties we get here - this is quite different.
> 
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8349547
> 
> 
> 
> Pentax *istD, Tokina 400/5.6, f5.6, shutter speed not 
> recorded, 400ASA.
> 
> Comments welcome
> 
> 
> John Coyle
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