Re: ICC Paper Profiles

2008-12-21 Thread Christine Aguila


- Original Message - 
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@mac.com




What instructions did the paper vendor supply for use with these papers?


Well, Brilliant supplied a 6 page direction sheet, which I'll spare you, 
Godfrey :-)--and I will go over it again, but often times I find these 
profiles are written for Photoshop specifically.  I was told that I could 
use them in Lightroom, but even when told that, I quietly didn't believe it. 
I mean, I'm proceeding on the assumption that an ICC profile is written for 
a specific printer, paper type,  processing software. Am I wrong?  Don't 
hesitate to say so :-).





There's always the possibility that the profiles are bad too.


Yes, I've heard this too--have you ever purchased custom made ICC profiles? 
If so, who did you use?




Profiles usually give more accurate and more consistent results, but  that 
depends on how good they are and how they're used. I had horrible  results 
with one or another Hahnemühle paper profiles until I read  through the 
instructions in detail and found they were designed to be  used with the 
printer driver set up completely differently than I  expected it ought to 
be.


I am very eager to try Hahnemuhle--I'll be sure to read the directions :-)

Cheers, Christine 




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Re: testing the G1 ...

2008-12-21 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 I hope the finder is better than the one on the Nikon Coolscan 5700. It was
 ok for static shots, but the delay caused it to be unusable for most action
 shots - push button  and get a slightly different image than when you pushed
 button. Try shooting birds and kids with that !

Or horses.:-)

Thank god for prople with PS's or i'd be out of business.

Dave

BTW i like the shot.

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Re: Greenwich tonight

2008-12-21 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 This is a picture of Greenwich at 4.25pm today. The market building is on
 the left of shot, with Shepherd Neame painted along the top of the pub.

 http://www.web-options.com/L1030148.jpg

Lively shot. I like the colours and composition.



 Normally on a Saturday this scene is absolutely heaving with people and
 traffic, but today it's been very quiet, mild and pleasant. Presumably all
 the tourists are back home for Christmas, and all the locals have run out of
 money.

Maybe every one is on mean time and forgot to show up.

Dave

 Bob


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Re: PESO: to clone or not to clone...

2008-12-21 Thread David J Brooks
Same reply as Brian's. If you had not mentioned it, i would not have noticed.

Does not look like a difficult clone, but.:-)

Dave

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 7:09 AM, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Peak season for parties and events to shoot here in the Philippines.
 Nothing much to show except for folks partying and getting married.  I
 need your opinion on this one though, an environmental portrait of a
 couple on their golden wedding anniversary--almost perfect except for
 the A/C switch box behind the guy's ear.  Should I leave it as is or
 exert effort cloning it out?

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/3121815671/

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Re: OT GESO: Nouvelle Vague w Bridezilla

2008-12-21 Thread David J Brooks
Great gallery, and nice lighting.

Dave

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Re: PESO - Shot from the bike this morning

2008-12-21 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Christian christ...@skofteland.net wrote:
 A bit of a therialultian shot from the bike with the Optio S.  The location
 is the Washington and Old Dominion Trail in Purcellville on my way to
 Leesburg.  32 degrees Fahrenheit (0 Celsius) and cloudy.

 http://tinyurl.com/8u9hgg

Interesting angle



 And here is Hamilton Station, one of the original train stations when the
 WOD was a working railroad.

 http://tinyurl.com/7ljjn7

I like old stations and old and new trains, so naturally i like it.:-)

Not sure about the branches ULC. I can't decide if i like them there or not.

Dave

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Re: PESO: to clone or not to clone...

2008-12-21 Thread Bong Manayon
Fixed.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/3121815671/

I took Jack's advice and rounded off the shadow...didn't want to work
too hard =D  Thanks, Ann, for pointing out that lint or whatever it
was.

Bong

On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 4:27 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Same reply as Brian's. If you had not mentioned it, i would not have noticed.

 Does not look like a difficult clone, but.:-)

 Dave

 On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 7:09 AM, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Peak season for parties and events to shoot here in the Philippines.
 Nothing much to show except for folks partying and getting married.  I
 need your opinion on this one though, an environmental portrait of a
 couple on their golden wedding anniversary--almost perfect except for
 the A/C switch box behind the guy's ear.  Should I leave it as is or
 exert effort cloning it out?

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/3121815671/

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Re: PESO: to clone or not to clone...

2008-12-21 Thread Christine Aguila

Joe  Ming will be very pleased, Bong.  Lovely!  Cheers, Christine


- Original Message - 
From: Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com

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Subject: Re: PESO: to clone or not to clone...



Fixed.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/3121815671/

I took Jack's advice and rounded off the shadow...didn't want to work
too hard =D  Thanks, Ann, for pointing out that lint or whatever it
was.

Bong

On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 4:27 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com 
wrote:
Same reply as Brian's. If you had not mentioned it, i would not have 
noticed.


Does not look like a difficult clone, but.:-)

Dave

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 7:09 AM, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Peak season for parties and events to shoot here in the Philippines.
Nothing much to show except for folks partying and getting married.  I
need your opinion on this one though, an environmental portrait of a
couple on their golden wedding anniversary--almost perfect except for
the A/C switch box behind the guy's ear.  Should I leave it as is or
exert effort cloning it out?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/3121815671/

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Re: Boris PESO Week 52

2008-12-21 Thread Christine Aguila
I like it, Boris.  I like the color rendering, and the cars look like they 
are driving towards the light :-).  Cheers, Christine



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Subject: Boris PESO Week 52



Hi!

Well, this year is coming to an end. At least by one of the calendars 
widely used around.


http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2008/12/paw-2008-week-52.html

Have your say, brutal and honest.

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Re: PESO - Shot from the bike this morning

2008-12-21 Thread Christine Aguila
I like it!  I like the angle and I like the blur lines in the road.  I might 
like a little more contrast and a bit more of the wheel on the bottom, but 
that's just me.  Fun shot.  Cheers, Christine



- Original Message - 
From: Christian christ...@skofteland.net

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Subject: PESO - Shot from the bike this morning


A bit of a therialultian shot from the bike with the Optio S.  The location 
is the Washington and Old Dominion Trail in Purcellville on my way to 
Leesburg.  32 degrees Fahrenheit (0 Celsius) and cloudy.


http://tinyurl.com/8u9hgg

And here is Hamilton Station, one of the original train stations when the 
WOD was a working railroad.


http://tinyurl.com/7ljjn7

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Re: PESO 2008 - 178 - GDG

2008-12-21 Thread Christine Aguila
Good one, Godfrey.  When I first looked at the pic, I thought the two light 
reflections over the pic right guy's shoulder were the balls, but then I 
realized of course they weren't.  I'd like the pic even more if I saw what 
the guy was juggling, but perhaps not necessary either.  Nice bw rendering. 
The girl really adds a nice touch to the shot.  Cheers, Christine



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Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 8:36 AM
Subject: PESO 2008 - 178 - GDG


Last night, my annual visit to the San Jose Christmas In The Park 
festival ...


  http://homepage.mac.com/godders/178-thejuggler.jpg
  The Juggler - San Jose 2008
  Panasonic G1 + ZD 25mm f/2.8
  ISO 800 @ f/2.8 @ 1/15 sec

Comments and critique always appreciated.

enjoy
Godfrey

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Energizer AA Lithium

2008-12-21 Thread willdo-1
Last summer I put four Energizer AA lithium cells into the *ist D. I 
used it all summer, carried it to Munich in August where I took 832 
pictures (RAW).  Why so few? Because it was raining all the time. I've 
been using the camera on and off since then. Both with lenses (some 
autofcous) and on the microscope. The battery indicator still reads 
full. I don't actually know how many pictures I've taken, but I'm sure 
it's more than 1000. I used the flash on several occasions as well. Now 
we're going to Helsinki for Xmas and I'm charging up a few sets up NiMH 
just in case. It would seem the figures in the Pentax manual are 
conservative?


I'm going to buy a couple of packs of those Lithiums for an Xmas present 
to me.


D

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RE: Greenwich tonight

2008-12-21 Thread Bob W
Thanks Paul, and everyone else who commented. 

Bob 


 
 Beauiful. Wish I was there.
 Paul
  -- Original message --
 From: Bob W p...@web-options.com
  This is a picture of Greenwich at 4.25pm today. The market 
 building is on
  the left of shot, with Shepherd Neame painted along the top 
 of the pub.
  
  http://www.web-options.com/L1030148.jpg
  
  Normally on a Saturday this scene is absolutely heaving 
 with people and
  traffic, but today it's been very quiet, mild and pleasant. 
 Presumably all
  the tourists are back home for Christmas, and all the 
 locals have run out of
  money.
  
  Bob


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RE: Greenwich tonight

2008-12-21 Thread Bob W
Embankment sounds about right. I think you can still get a boat all the way
down to Kew - it's a very pleasant way to idle away a summer's day. 

Bob

 
 Lovely, Bob.  Great documentation of the Greenwich street 
 scene.  The sky 
 light is great as well.  I took the riverboat ride to 
 Greenwich with my 
 husband.  That was a lovely day.  I believe we boarded the boat at 
 Embankment.  I'll have to double check that with my husband.  Cheers, 
 Christine
 
  This is a picture of Greenwich at 4.25pm today. The market 
 building is on
  the left of shot, with Shepherd Neame painted along the top 
 of the pub.
 
  http://www.web-options.com/L1030148.jpg
 
  Normally on a Saturday this scene is absolutely heaving 
 with people and
  traffic, but today it's been very quiet, mild and pleasant. 
 Presumably all
  the tourists are back home for Christmas, and all the 
 locals have run out 
  of
  money.


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RE: Greenwich tonight

2008-12-21 Thread Bob W
 
  http://www.web-options.com/L1030148.jpg
 
 Lively shot. I like the colours and composition.
 
 
 Maybe every one is on mean time and forgot to show up.
 

Indeed - everyone is on mean time at the moment.

Bob


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PESO - Downunder Santa

2008-12-21 Thread Brian Walters
G'day all

Just wishing everyone all the best for the holiday season and lots of
photo opportunities in '09.

This is just a fun shot.  There's no Pentax content but it fits the
holiday theme (M42 mount Fujica AZ-1 with a 90 mm Tamron using Fujicolor
200).  The photo is of my neighbour's front fence, suitably enhanced for
the season. 


http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/106202/Christmas_at_Castlereagh.html



Bingle Jells

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Re: PESO - Downunder Santa

2008-12-21 Thread David Savage
Hahaha...

Funny.

Cheers,

Dave

2008/12/21 Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm:
 G'day all

 Just wishing everyone all the best for the holiday season and lots of
 photo opportunities in '09.

 This is just a fun shot.  There's no Pentax content but it fits the
 holiday theme (M42 mount Fujica AZ-1 with a 90 mm Tamron using Fujicolor
 200).  The photo is of my neighbour's front fence, suitably enhanced for
 the season.


 http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/106202/Christmas_at_Castlereagh.html

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Re: PESO: to clone or not to clone...

2008-12-21 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bong,
That's a nice portrait.  Go all the way and take out the whole shadow.
Now that you made me notice it, it still bothers me.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 2:39 AM, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Fixed.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/3121815671/

 I took Jack's advice and rounded off the shadow...didn't want to work
 too hard =D  Thanks, Ann, for pointing out that lint or whatever it
 was.

 Bong

 On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 4:27 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Same reply as Brian's. If you had not mentioned it, i would not have noticed.

 Does not look like a difficult clone, but.:-)

 Dave

 On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 7:09 AM, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Peak season for parties and events to shoot here in the Philippines.
 Nothing much to show except for folks partying and getting married.  I
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 couple on their golden wedding anniversary--almost perfect except for
 the A/C switch box behind the guy's ear.  Should I leave it as is or
 exert effort cloning it out?

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/3121815671/

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Re: Energizer AA Lithium

2008-12-21 Thread Bob Sullivan
Don,
Always a good idea to have spares.
When they die, they give little notice.
(Maybe 1 or 2 shots at 1/2 battery indication)
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 3:52 AM, willdo-1 don.willi...@pp.inet.fi wrote:
 Last summer I put four Energizer AA lithium cells into the *ist D. I used it
 all summer, carried it to Munich in August where I took 832 pictures (RAW).
  Why so few? Because it was raining all the time. I've been using the camera
 on and off since then. Both with lenses (some autofcous) and on the
 microscope. The battery indicator still reads full. I don't actually know
 how many pictures I've taken, but I'm sure it's more than 1000. I used the
 flash on several occasions as well. Now we're going to Helsinki for Xmas and
 I'm charging up a few sets up NiMH just in case. It would seem the figures
 in the Pentax manual are conservative?

 I'm going to buy a couple of packs of those Lithiums for an Xmas present to
 me.

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Re: Energizer AA Lithium

2008-12-21 Thread Adam Maas
LCD and Flash use are the biggest battery killers. If you don't use
the LCD a lot, the batteries will last a very long time.

-Adam

On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 4:52 AM, willdo-1 don.willi...@pp.inet.fi wrote:
 Last summer I put four Energizer AA lithium cells into the *ist D. I used it
 all summer, carried it to Munich in August where I took 832 pictures (RAW).
  Why so few? Because it was raining all the time. I've been using the camera
 on and off since then. Both with lenses (some autofcous) and on the
 microscope. The battery indicator still reads full. I don't actually know
 how many pictures I've taken, but I'm sure it's more than 1000. I used the
 flash on several occasions as well. Now we're going to Helsinki for Xmas and
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 in the Pentax manual are conservative?

 I'm going to buy a couple of packs of those Lithiums for an Xmas present to
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Re: PESO - Pair of Sunsets

2008-12-21 Thread David J Brooks
Both are very dramatic, but number 2 works for me.

Dave

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:
 The same evening as the last peso, I took these sunsets - one early
 and one late.

 Pentax K10D, Sigma 100-300/f4 EX @ 190mm
 ISO 400, 1/350sec @ f/8.0, Handheld

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/utahlake_0035.htm


 Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 118mm
 ISO 800, 1/125 sec @ f/6.7, Handheld

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/utahlake_0043.htm

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Re: PESO - Downunder Santa

2008-12-21 Thread David J Brooks
HAR..

Good shot

Dave

On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 6:11 AM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 G'day all

 Just wishing everyone all the best for the holiday season and lots of
 photo opportunities in '09.

 This is just a fun shot.  There's no Pentax content but it fits the
 holiday theme (M42 mount Fujica AZ-1 with a 90 mm Tamron using Fujicolor
 200).  The photo is of my neighbour's front fence, suitably enhanced for
 the season.


 http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/106202/Christmas_at_Castlereagh.html



 Bingle Jells

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Re: PESO 2008 - 178 - GDG

2008-12-21 Thread David J Brooks
Very good.

I like the bit of blur around his hands/arm.

The girl looking over at him works well.

Dave

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote:
 Last night, my annual visit to the San Jose Christmas In The Park festival
 ...

  http://homepage.mac.com/godders/178-thejuggler.jpg
  The Juggler - San Jose 2008
  Panasonic G1 + ZD 25mm f/2.8
  ISO 800 @ f/2.8 @ 1/15 sec

 Comments and critique always appreciated.

 enjoy
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Re: ICC Paper Profiles

2008-12-21 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks for asking, Christine, I'm really anxious to learn the answer too!

Jack


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 From: Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net
 Subject: ICC Paper Profiles
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 11:33 PM
 Hi Everyone:
 
 Well, I'm stumped:
 
 I have correctly downloaded and installed some ICC paper
 profiles from Brilliant Museum (matte satin white) 
 MOAB (white satin).  I finally learned where to save to
  how to install for PC.  These two profiles show up in
 Lightroom.  I also have chosen turn off color
 adjustment in the printer dialog box as all the
 directions say to do, so there is no clash between printer
  ICC profile.  I've done some test prints, and the
 color is hideous--reddish  black--and dark
 
 So I tried my usual settings with these two papers that
 I've never printed with before--B. Museum  MOAB:  I
 chose Stylus Epson 2880, Perceptual, Adobe RGB in the
 printer dialogue box and the proper media type (as I use
 when printing on Epson papers), and the prints come out
 normal and a virtual likeness to the monitor.
 
 I must be doing something wrong--I know the general view is
 that ICC profiles are supposed to give better print
 quality--but I just can't figure out what I'm doing
 wrong.
 
 Any suggestions?
 Cheers, Christine
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: PESO - Downunder Santa

2008-12-21 Thread Jack Davis
LoL..
Thanks for that, Brian.

Jack


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 From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm
 Subject: PESO - Downunder Santa
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 3:11 AM
 G'day all
 
 Just wishing everyone all the best for the holiday season
 and lots of
 photo opportunities in '09.
 
 This is just a fun shot.  There's no Pentax content but
 it fits the
 holiday theme (M42 mount Fujica AZ-1 with a 90 mm Tamron
 using Fujicolor
 200).  The photo is of my neighbour's front fence,
 suitably enhanced for
 the season. 
 
 
 http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/106202/Christmas_at_Castlereagh.html
 
 
 
 Bingle Jells
 
 Brian
 
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Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-21 Thread AlunFoto
Sorry, John.
I never intended to take you seriously. Apologies for launching you
into an argument where you thought I did. And speaking of missing
points, I think you refused to consider mine.

More seriously, though, if you cling to a 20 year old Z-1p as your
ideal camera, I do not understand why you don't go buy yourself a 2nd
hand FA* 300/2.8. They are mighty good lenses by any measurement, they
are optimised for film use instead of this newfangled digital stuff,
and pop up on eBay more than once a year.

Jostein

2008/12/21 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com:
 From: AlunFoto

 008/12/19 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com:

 
  I don't want to switch brands, but if Pentax continues on the course
  they're
  presently on, I may not have a choice.
 
  If it does turn out that way, I ain't going quietly.

 You know,
 What I really don't understand is why K?ningsegg can not make me a
 truck when I want one, and why Budweiser never can come up with a
 decent beer. So far I've gone quietly about this, but following your
 advice, I think I shall join the relevant forums and tell the world
 how those companies _should_ have done their business. Thanks for the
 inspiration.


 You're welcome, although I think you still miss the point. AFAIK, K?ningsegg
 has never manufactured trucks, any more than Budweiser has ever manufactured
 decent beer.

 Pentax, OTOH, has a history to live up to. And, if this isn't a relevant
 forum to discuss the shortcomings of Pentax's current offerings, there is
 none.

 I'll let this be my last comment on the subject. I think Pentax is pursuing
 a course that will not increase their market share, nor contribute to their
 long term viability. If Pentax continues on the course they're on, a year or
 two years from now Pentax won't be in the camera business.

 I hope I'm wrong.

 But ...

 Who on this list is going to buy a white K2000?
 Who on this list is going to buy a white K2000 BECAUSE it's white?

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Re: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?

2008-12-21 Thread AlunFoto
Film

Isn't that the kind of sticy stuff that forms when you spill oil on water?
Who in a legal state of mind would put that into their precious Pentax cameras?
g
No, seriously. 35mm film is a complete waste of time these days. Never
looked back after buying the *istD in 2003.

645 is a different matter, though.

Jostein


2008/12/20 JC OConnell hifis...@gate.net:
 Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?

 I have only shot one roll since going with a DSLR
 a couple years ago. I am wondering, anyone on this
 list still using 35mm film at all, or still using
 35mm film full time?

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Re: Pentax Photo Book Question

2008-12-21 Thread AlunFoto
uuhhh
I may have acted a little hastily with my submissions. I may have to
resubmit. Will check when back to my image-archive 'puter.

Jostein

2008/12/20 Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu:
 Joseph Tainter wrote:

 I'm refering to the photo book that Mark announced a couple of weeks ago.

 How are you guys and gals sharpening for this kind of output?

 DON'T sharpen.

 There's no way for you to know what the final output size is going to be
 (even we aren't certain yet). Please trust the editors to be competent to
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OT Some winter observations

2008-12-21 Thread David J Brooks
Its snowing, yes another storm in Toronto. Expecting a whopping 3 cm's.

http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/

My attempt at snowed in humor.

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Re: OT Some winter observations

2008-12-21 Thread David Savage
LOL

Good one Dave.


2008/12/21 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com:
 Its snowing, yes another storm in Toronto. Expecting a whopping 3 cm's.

 http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/

 My attempt at snowed in humor.

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Re: OT Some winter observations

2008-12-21 Thread Bill Owens
Hell, here in North Carolina, just the threat of any kind of frozen
precip causes a run on the grocery stores for milk and bread, even
though said precip will be gone in less than 24 hours. (I used to
stock up on bread and beer)

Bill

On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 8:50 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
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Re: OT Some winter observations

2008-12-21 Thread Jack Davis
Very clever, David...seriously.

Jack


--- On Sun, 12/21/08, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
 Subject: OT Some winter observations
 To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net, Barbara Brooks bbaro...@gmail.com
 Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 5:50 AM
 Its snowing, yes another storm in Toronto. Expecting a
 whopping 3 cm's.
 
 http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
 
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Re: ICC Paper Profiles

2008-12-21 Thread ann sanfedele
Wait a minute... if you got good prints by the second method you mention 
below  -  it sounds like you

were doing something right and changed to something wrong :-)

Remember, they said Vista was better than XP

xo,
ann



From: Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net
Subject: ICC Paper Profiles
To: pdml@pdml.net
Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 11:33 PM
Hi Everyone:

Well, I'm stumped:

I have correctly downloaded and installed some ICC paper
profiles from Brilliant Museum (matte satin white) 
MOAB (white satin).  I finally learned where to save to
 how to install for PC.  These two profiles show up in
Lightroom.  I also have chosen turn off color
adjustment in the printer dialog box as all the
directions say to do, so there is no clash between printer
 ICC profile.  I've done some test prints, and the
color is hideous--reddish  black--and dark

So I tried my usual settings with these two papers that
I've never printed with before--B. Museum  MOAB:  I
chose Stylus Epson 2880, Perceptual, Adobe RGB in the
printer dialogue box and the proper media type (as I use
when printing on Epson papers), and the prints come out
normal and a virtual likeness to the monitor.

I must be doing something wrong--I know the general view is
that ICC profiles are supposed to give better print
quality--but I just can't figure out what I'm doing
wrong.

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Re: OT Some winter observations

2008-12-21 Thread Adam Maas
So true ;-)

-Adam

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 http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/

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Re: OT Some winter observations

2008-12-21 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Very clever, David...seriously.

 Jack

Thanks Jack.

I woke up around 3am this morning, and I started to think about this one.
Its not anything like the first draft.:-)

Dave


 --- On Sun, 12/21/08, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
 Subject: OT Some winter observations
 To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net, Barbara Brooks bbaro...@gmail.com
 Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 5:50 AM
 Its snowing, yes another storm in Toronto. Expecting a
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Re: ICC Paper Profiles

2008-12-21 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: ann sanfedele 
Subject: Re: ICC Paper Profiles






Remember, they said Vista was better than XP


They being Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak

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Re: ICC Paper Profiles

2008-12-21 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 9:18 AM, ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 Wait a minute... if you got good prints by the second method you mention
 below  -  it sounds like you
 were doing something right and changed to something wrong :-)

 Remember, they said Vista was better than XP

Hell, Dos 6.2 is better than Vista.

Dave

 xo,
 ann


 From: Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net
 Subject: ICC Paper Profiles
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 11:33 PM
 Hi Everyone:

 Well, I'm stumped:

 I have correctly downloaded and installed some ICC paper
 profiles from Brilliant Museum (matte satin white) 
 MOAB (white satin).  I finally learned where to save to
  how to install for PC.  These two profiles show up in
 Lightroom.  I also have chosen turn off color
 adjustment in the printer dialog box as all the
 directions say to do, so there is no clash between printer
  ICC profile.  I've done some test prints, and the
 color is hideous--reddish  black--and dark

 So I tried my usual settings with these two papers that
 I've never printed with before--B. Museum  MOAB:  I
 chose Stylus Epson 2880, Perceptual, Adobe RGB in the
 printer dialogue box and the proper media type (as I use
 when printing on Epson papers), and the prints come out
 normal and a virtual likeness to the monitor.

 I must be doing something wrong--I know the general view is
 that ICC profiles are supposed to give better print
 quality--but I just can't figure out what I'm doing
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Re: OT Some winter observations

2008-12-21 Thread Subash
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:50:21 -0500
David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:

 Its snowing, yes another storm in Toronto. Expecting a whopping 3
 cm's.
 
 http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
 
 My attempt at snowed in humor.

Dave, it just doesn't read like you. you've started using a
spellchecker? ;-))

thanks! enjoyed reading that...

regards, subash (who only saw snow for the first time ever on the ride
to the himalayas in 2006 :))


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Re: PESO - Long Wait in the Snow - with a URL this time

2008-12-21 Thread ann sanfedele

I like it,   although I think he was jsut talking on his cell phone :-)
ann

frank theriault wrote:


It's been snowing here a bit - not much, but a bit.

First snow of the season always gums up traffic.  Every year it's the
same thing - first snow, and one would think we'd never driven in the
stuff before.  On Friday night we had hardly any, but it was enough to
snarl things at major intersections.  This poor guy waiting for the
bus at Yonge near Eglinton seems somewhat exasperated:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/12/long-wait-in-snow.html

Not one of my best, just a slice of life, I guess.  This time I
thought it might be fun to include the URL.

Comments will still be entertained.

;-)

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Re: PESO - Watching the Watcher

2008-12-21 Thread David J Brooks
Very good angle on this one Frank

Dave

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 Ann's portrait of Ashley has inspired me to post this (somewhat
 different) photo of our lovely feline companions:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/12/watching-watcher.html

 Comments always welcome.

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Re: another PESO - w60 shot

2008-12-21 Thread David J Brooks
Nice. Pleasing amount of snow, and the composition is nice.

DAVE

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Re: PESO: to clone or not to clone...

2008-12-21 Thread ann sanfedele



Bong Manayon wrote:


Fixed.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/3121815671/

I took Jack's advice and rounded off the shadow...didn't want to work
too hard =D  Thanks, Ann, for pointing out that lint or whatever it
was.

Bong



Welk's , Bong -  that bothered me more than the shadow behind his head...
nice looking happy couple :-)

ann



On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 4:27 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 


Same reply as Brian's. If you had not mentioned it, i would not have noticed.

Does not look like a difficult clone, but.:-)

Dave

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Peak season for parties and events to shoot here in the Philippines.
Nothing much to show except for folks partying and getting married.  I
need your opinion on this one though, an environmental portrait of a
couple on their golden wedding anniversary--almost perfect except for
the A/C switch box behind the guy's ear.  Should I leave it as is or
exert effort cloning it out?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/3121815671/

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Re: Pesos - Let it snow

2008-12-21 Thread David J Brooks
Like the motion blur and the guy shoveling in the first one.

The second one is nice

Dave

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 http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/439513332_2Q9HC/Large

 I havent' been out yet - wanted to go to Tompkins square park to shoot but
 right now it is too brutal

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Re: PESO - Duel

2008-12-21 Thread David J Brooks
Very nice. Quite pleasing

Dave

On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:32 PM, Marco Alpert ma...@alpert.com wrote:
 A bit of uncharacteristic (for me) minimalism:

 http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo07/peso11.html

 Comments, as always, welcomed.

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Re: December PUG is up

2008-12-21 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 12/19/08, ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:


  Bob W wrote:


  Yes it is. Christine's Chicago Fog in particular. I don't remember seeing
 it
  before, but I'm glad I've seen it now. Perfect.
 
  Bob
 
  Ditto, that !
  The whole gallery is nice - bunch of nature lovers, us :-)

 I'm just glad there weren't any cat photos.

You called.

Dave

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Re: December PUG is up

2008-12-21 Thread David J Brooks
Finally had a chance to look at the gallery for this month

Stand outs for me are:
Dag's 3+1,
Henk's After the Battle and Matthew's Great Blue Heron.
Christine's Chicago Fog.
and last but not least, Brian's Island View.

Dave

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Re: OT Some winter observations

2008-12-21 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 9:21 AM, Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:50:21 -0500
 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:

 Its snowing, yes another storm in Toronto. Expecting a whopping 3
 cm's.

 http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/

 My attempt at snowed in humor.

 Dave, it just doesn't read like you. you've started using a
 spell checker? ;-))

I finally figured out how to use it on the ibook.

Dave

 thanks! enjoyed reading that...

 regards, subash (who only saw snow for the first time ever on the ride
 to the himalayas in 2006 :))


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Re: ICC Paper Profiles

2008-12-21 Thread Luiz Felipe
... but vista IS better than XP... if you happen to fix computers for living, 
at least part-time. ;-)

I do hope no client of mine reads this...

Luiz Felipe
luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br




Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:18:57 -0600, William Robb war...@gmail.com escreveu:

 
 - Original Message - 
 From: ann sanfedele 
 Subject: Re: ICC Paper Profiles
 
 
 
  
  Remember, they said Vista was better than XP
 
 They being Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak
 
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Re: another PESO - w60 shot

2008-12-21 Thread ann sanfedele



David J Brooks wrote:


Nice. Pleasing amount of snow, and the composition is nice.

DAVE


ouch , damned with faint praise :-)

I prefer the vertical one myself... the taxicab was key for me for a 
special reason.


snow got ugly later, but we have more coming today... glad one doesnt 
need to drive in Manhattan


xo,
ann



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http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/439528298_oSDkQ/Medium

now I'm outta here for a bit

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Re: ICC Paper Profiles

2008-12-21 Thread Adam Maas
I dunno, I've found Vista to be significantly better than XP, provided
you do 3 things:

1. A clean install. Upgrading doesn't work, and results in a system
with all the stability of Windows Me.
2. Have fully supported hardware. Vista is picky about drivers (but
supported drivers are far less flaky than XP drivers)
3. Turn off useless services. Vista, particularly with early
installers, runs a lot of crap you don't need. Turn it off.

The other thing people forget about vista is that it uses RAM very
differently than XP. Vista will keep everything it can in System
Memory, which means huge memory footprints under light load. XP will
swap everything not in current use to disk, which means light emmory
footprints and massive delays when swapping back in.

-Adam
Who'se had 3 Vista systems so far, and is very pleased with them (one
went back to XP solely due to support issues with some 3rd party
software I need).

On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Luiz Felipe
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 ... but vista IS better than XP... if you happen to fix computers for living, 
 at least part-time. ;-)

 I do hope no client of mine reads this...

 Luiz Felipe
 luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br




 Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:18:57 -0600, William Robb war...@gmail.com escreveu:


 - Original Message -
 From: ann sanfedele
 Subject: Re: ICC Paper Profiles



 
  Remember, they said Vista was better than XP

 They being Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak

 William Robb


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Re: Energizer AA Lithium

2008-12-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I never used an *ist D, but in the *ist DS I would regularly obtain  
1100-1300 exposures on a single set of Eveready AA Lithium E2 batteries.


G

On Dec 21, 2008, at 1:52 AM, willdo-1 wrote:

Last summer I put four Energizer AA lithium cells into the *ist D. I  
used it all summer, carried it to Munich in August where I took 832  
pictures (RAW).  Why so few? Because it was raining all the time.  
I've been using the camera on and off since then. Both with lenses  
(some autofcous) and on the microscope. The battery indicator still  
reads full. I don't actually know how many pictures I've taken, but  
I'm sure it's more than 1000. I used the flash on several occasions  
as well. Now we're going to Helsinki for Xmas and I'm charging up a  
few sets up NiMH just in case. It would seem the figures in the  
Pentax manual are conservative?


I'm going to buy a couple of packs of those Lithiums for an Xmas  
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After Snowmageddon

2008-12-21 Thread Adam Maas
As I'm sure everybody knows by now, Toronto got hit by a nasty little
snowstorm on Friday. Not all that much snow, but the storm included
some nasty winds resulting in windchill down to -20C (-4 Fahrenheit).
Typically, locals are calling it 'Snowmageddon', despite the lack of
real amounts of snow (Insert mocking laughter here). I got to skip
going out during the storm but had an event that evening. Caught this
shot on my way home, 24 hours before there was no snow to be seen from
here.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/3124514360/

Larger/Direct Link:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3256/3124514360_1c07325a4c_o.jpg

D300, CV 40/2 Pancake, ISO6400. 1/6...@f2, In-camera BW.

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Re: ICC Paper Profiles

2008-12-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Dec 21, 2008, at 6:18 AM, William Robb wrote:


Remember, they said Vista was better than XP


They being Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak


???

This is just too ridiculous.

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Re: After Snowmageddon

2008-12-21 Thread David J Brooks
Nice street winter shot. Like the in camera conversion.

Looks clean enough on the monitor, but just how noisy is it at 6400

Dave

On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:
 As I'm sure everybody knows by now, Toronto got hit by a nasty little
 snowstorm on Friday. Not all that much snow, but the storm included
 some nasty winds resulting in windchill down to -20C (-4 Fahrenheit).
 Typically, locals are calling it 'Snowmageddon', despite the lack of
 real amounts of snow (Insert mocking laughter here). I got to skip
 going out during the storm but had an event that evening. Caught this
 shot on my way home, 24 hours before there was no snow to be seen from
 here.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/3124514360/

 Larger/Direct Link:

 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3256/3124514360_1c07325a4c_o.jpg

 D300, CV 40/2 Pancake, ISO6400. 1/6...@f2, In-camera BW.

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Re: After Snowmageddon

2008-12-21 Thread Adam Maas
Full res is noisier, but that's also with NR off in-camera and minimal
NR in post (just the default that CaptureNX provides unless I turn off
NR, I literally opened the RAW in CaptureNX then immediately saved the
JPEG). I could easily reduce the noise significantly by turning
in-camera NR on.

-Adam

On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 10:28 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nice street winter shot. Like the in camera conversion.

 Looks clean enough on the monitor, but just how noisy is it at 6400

 Dave

 On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:
 As I'm sure everybody knows by now, Toronto got hit by a nasty little
 snowstorm on Friday. Not all that much snow, but the storm included
 some nasty winds resulting in windchill down to -20C (-4 Fahrenheit).
 Typically, locals are calling it 'Snowmageddon', despite the lack of
 real amounts of snow (Insert mocking laughter here). I got to skip
 going out during the storm but had an event that evening. Caught this
 shot on my way home, 24 hours before there was no snow to be seen from
 here.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/3124514360/

 Larger/Direct Link:

 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3256/3124514360_1c07325a4c_o.jpg

 D300, CV 40/2 Pancake, ISO6400. 1/6...@f2, In-camera BW.

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Re: Energizer AA Lithium

2008-12-21 Thread David J Brooks
I had the istD for a number of years, and if i was lucky, would get
around 400 or so from a good set of lith's, less with rechargeable
batteries.
I did have the dreaded dead battery icon.
I noticed that once it showed 1/2 full, it would die very shortly there after.

I always had 2-3 sets of batteries with me.

Dave

On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@mac.com wrote:
 I never used an *ist D, but in the *ist DS I would regularly obtain
 1100-1300 exposures on a single set of Eveready AA Lithium E2 batteries.

 G

 On Dec 21, 2008, at 1:52 AM, willdo-1 wrote:

 Last summer I put four Energizer AA lithium cells into the *ist D. I used
 it all summer, carried it to Munich in August where I took 832 pictures
 (RAW).  Why so few? Because it was raining all the time. I've been using the
 camera on and off since then. Both with lenses (some autofcous) and on the
 microscope. The battery indicator still reads full. I don't actually know
 how many pictures I've taken, but I'm sure it's more than 1000. I used the
 flash on several occasions as well. Now we're going to Helsinki for Xmas and
 I'm charging up a few sets up NiMH just in case. It would seem the figures
 in the Pentax manual are conservative?

 I'm going to buy a couple of packs of those Lithiums for an Xmas present
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Re: After Snowmageddon

2008-12-21 Thread David J Brooks
Well it looks pretty good on the monitor any way/:-)

Dave

On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:
 Full res is noisier, but that's also with NR off in-camera and minimal
 NR in post (just the default that CaptureNX provides unless I turn off
 NR, I literally opened the RAW in CaptureNX then immediately saved the
 JPEG). I could easily reduce the noise significantly by turning
 in-camera NR on.

 -Adam

 On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 10:28 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nice street winter shot. Like the in camera conversion.

 Looks clean enough on the monitor, but just how noisy is it at 6400

 Dave

 On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:
 As I'm sure everybody knows by now, Toronto got hit by a nasty little
 snowstorm on Friday. Not all that much snow, but the storm included
 some nasty winds resulting in windchill down to -20C (-4 Fahrenheit).
 Typically, locals are calling it 'Snowmageddon', despite the lack of
 real amounts of snow (Insert mocking laughter here). I got to skip
 going out during the storm but had an event that evening. Caught this
 shot on my way home, 24 hours before there was no snow to be seen from
 here.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/3124514360/

 Larger/Direct Link:

 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3256/3124514360_1c07325a4c_o.jpg

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Re: ICC Paper Profiles

2008-12-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Dec 21, 2008, at 12:00 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

What instructions did the paper vendor supply for use with these  
papers?


Well, Brilliant supplied a 6 page direction sheet, which I'll spare  
you, Godfrey :-)--and I will go over it again, but often times I  
find these profiles are written for Photoshop specifically.  I was  
told that I could use them in Lightroom, but even when told that, I  
quietly didn't believe it. I mean, I'm proceeding on the assumption  
that an ICC profile is written for a specific printer, paper type,   
processing software. Am I wrong?  Don't hesitate to say so :-).


An ICC profile presents a transform from Lab color space to a  
particular printer, paper and inkset color space, given the  
appropriate rendering intent and particular printer driver/hardware  
setup. The documentation usually uses an application to implement  
those specific configuration requirements, and that is usually  
Photoshop, but as long as you can make the configuration requirements  
in the printer as needed the application used to do it is arbitrary.



There's always the possibility that the profiles are bad too.


Yes, I've heard this too--have you ever purchased custom made ICC  
profiles? If so, who did you use?


I've had a couple of color profiles done for me, once upon a time, by  
a friend out in Minneapolis. He works for a company which does this  
work, but I don't recall the name of the company off hand. Most of the  
time, I just used the profiles provided by the paper vendors.



Profiles usually give more accurate and more consistent results,  
but  that depends on how good they are and how they're used. I had  
horrible  results with one or another Hahnemühle paper profiles  
until I read  through the instructions in detail and found they  
were designed to be  used with the printer driver set up completely  
differently than I  expected it ought to be.


I am very eager to try Hahnemuhle--I'll be sure to read the  
directions :-)


Hahnemühle Photo Rag Smooth 308gsm is my favorite. It usually feeds  
well and has a beautiful warm tone, but it tends to cut sharpness just  
a little bit compared to Velvet Fine Art. I also tried their new  
Bamboo paper but it proves to be a very difficult paper for the R2400  
to feed properly (tends to curl easily and is quite thick).


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Re: ICC Paper Profiles

2008-12-21 Thread Jack Davis
Couple days ago I allowed a long term Windows Vista (have Home Premium version) 
update that took at least 30 mins. Security patch, I'm guessing.
Have no idea if the system benefited from it, but they may be trying.(?) 
;=)

Jack


--- On Sun, 12/21/08, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:

 From: Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca
 Subject: Re: ICC Paper Profiles
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 7:12 AM
 I dunno, I've found Vista to be significantly better
 than XP, provided
 you do 3 things:
 
 1. A clean install. Upgrading doesn't work, and results
 in a system
 with all the stability of Windows Me.
 2. Have fully supported hardware. Vista is picky about
 drivers (but
 supported drivers are far less flaky than XP drivers)
 3. Turn off useless services. Vista, particularly with
 early
 installers, runs a lot of crap you don't need. Turn it
 off.
 
 The other thing people forget about vista is that it uses
 RAM very
 differently than XP. Vista will keep everything it can in
 System
 Memory, which means huge memory footprints under light
 load. XP will
 swap everything not in current use to disk, which means
 light emmory
 footprints and massive delays when swapping back in.
 
 -Adam
 Who'se had 3 Vista systems so far, and is very pleased
 with them (one
 went back to XP solely due to support issues with some 3rd
 party
 software I need).
 
 On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Luiz Felipe
 luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br wrote:
  ... but vista IS better than XP... if you happen to
 fix computers for living, at least part-time. ;-)
 
  I do hope no client of mine reads this...
 
  Luiz Felipe
  luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br
 
 
 
 
  Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:18:57 -0600, William
 Robb war...@gmail.com escreveu:
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: ann sanfedele
  Subject: Re: ICC Paper Profiles
 
 
 
  
   Remember, they said Vista was
 better than XP
 
  They being Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak
 
  William Robb
 
 
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Re: ICC Paper Profiles

2008-12-21 Thread Luiz Felipe
... really, really, hoping this thread remains unknown where I work...

Vista is not that bad - was released way before time, so it's just now coming 
to where it was aimed. Problem is, by now it's widely tagged as unreliable 
(wrong hardware+ early release) and slow (again, wrong hardware). Add Linux and 
Microsoft's own conflicts about when we're getting it's replacement, many 
corporations are just sticking to XP or worse, returning to XP. Not that I'm 
sad about the increase in workload, but there was a lot of stress around here. 
Microsoft's own tech support is still owing me some fixes, not knowing the 
client dumped Vista after the first month of suffering.

Tuning is not everything, but makes a lot o difference. XP is rather easy to 
fine tune (now, after many fixes) so we usually spend more time tweaking Vista 
- some extra 35mm film at the end of the month. I do advise (whenever I'm 
asked) to choose XP over Vista, or give Linux a try. Software cost is a rather 
touchy issue, sometimes.

Luiz Felipe
luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br




Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:12:48 -0500, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca escreveu:

 I dunno, I've found Vista to be significantly better than XP, provided
 you do 3 things:
 
 1. A clean install. Upgrading doesn't work, and results in a system
 with all the stability of Windows Me.
 2. Have fully supported hardware. Vista is picky about drivers (but
 supported drivers are far less flaky than XP drivers)
 3. Turn off useless services. Vista, particularly with early
 installers, runs a lot of crap you don't need. Turn it off.
 
 The other thing people forget about vista is that it uses RAM very
 differently than XP. Vista will keep everything it can in System
 Memory, which means huge memory footprints under light load. XP will
 swap everything not in current use to disk, which means light emmory
 footprints and massive delays when swapping back in.
 
 -Adam
 Who'se had 3 Vista systems so far, and is very pleased with them (one
 went back to XP solely due to support issues with some 3rd party
 software I need).
 

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Re: After Snowmageddon

2008-12-21 Thread Jack Davis
I expected to see somewhat more noise. Not at all bad for the exposure.
Like the feel of the shot.

Jack


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 Subject: After Snowmageddon
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 7:18 AM
 As I'm sure everybody knows by now, Toronto got hit by a
 nasty little
 snowstorm on Friday. Not all that much snow, but the storm
 included
 some nasty winds resulting in windchill down to -20C (-4
 Fahrenheit).
 Typically, locals are calling it 'Snowmageddon',
 despite the lack of
 real amounts of snow (Insert mocking laughter here). I got
 to skip
 going out during the storm but had an event that evening.
 Caught this
 shot on my way home, 24 hours before there was no snow to
 be seen from
 here.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/3124514360/
 
 Larger/Direct Link:
 
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3256/3124514360_1c07325a4c_o.jpg
 
 D300, CV 40/2 Pancake, ISO6400. 1/6...@f2, In-camera BW.
 
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Re: After Snowmageddon

2008-12-21 Thread Christine Aguila

Nice one, Adam.  And I love it in bw.  Looks great!  Cheers, Christine


- Original Message - 
From: Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca

To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 9:18 AM
Subject: After Snowmageddon



As I'm sure everybody knows by now, Toronto got hit by a nasty little
snowstorm on Friday. Not all that much snow, but the storm included
some nasty winds resulting in windchill down to -20C (-4 Fahrenheit).
Typically, locals are calling it 'Snowmageddon', despite the lack of
real amounts of snow (Insert mocking laughter here). I got to skip
going out during the storm but had an event that evening. Caught this
shot on my way home, 24 hours before there was no snow to be seen from
here.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/3124514360/

Larger/Direct Link:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3256/3124514360_1c07325a4c_o.jpg

D300, CV 40/2 Pancake, ISO6400. 1/6...@f2, In-camera BW.

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Re: OT Some winter observations

2008-12-21 Thread Christine Aguila

Dave:  That was great fun to read  nicely written too!  Cheers, Christine


- Original Message - 
From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com

To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net; Barbara Brooks bbaro...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 7:50 AM
Subject: OT Some winter observations



Its snowing, yes another storm in Toronto. Expecting a whopping 3 cm's.

http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/

My attempt at snowed in humor.

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Re: PESO - Downunder Santa

2008-12-21 Thread Christine Aguila
Fun shot!  and a Bingle Jells to you too, Brian!  Happy holidays!  Cheers, 
Christine



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Subject: PESO - Downunder Santa


G'day all

Just wishing everyone all the best for the holiday season and lots of
photo opportunities in '09.

This is just a fun shot.  There's no Pentax content but it fits the
holiday theme (M42 mount Fujica AZ-1 with a 90 mm Tamron using Fujicolor
200).  The photo is of my neighbour's front fence, suitably enhanced for
the season.


http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/106202/Christmas_at_Castlereagh.html



Bingle Jells

Brian

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Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-21 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 07:58:22PM -0500, John Sessoms wrote:

 I hope I'm wrong.

 But ...

 Who on this list is going to buy a white K2000?
 Who on this list is going to buy a white K2000 BECAUSE it's white?

If Pentax's future lies with those of us on this list (and the like)
then the company is already doomed.

Canon may have nice gear at the high end, but the company profit
comes from selling a boatload of Rebel GTI turbo XLs (or whatever
the current latest model is) for every 1DS III or 5D Mk 2.



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Re: ICC Paper Profiles

2008-12-21 Thread Brendan MacRae
Have you tried printing from Print with Preview in
Photoshop? I find that it works better with profiles
than other programs. Also, make sure to turn color
controls OFF (under Color Handling: slect No color
management), do that AGAIN under the print dialog
boxes when selecting paper size, oreintation, etc.

The only other suggestion I have is not to use generic
paper profiles, even one supplied by paper
manufacturers. In my experience, they're never as good
a creating your own.

ColorVision makes a spectrocolorimeter to read color
swatches printed on the paper you're creating the
profile for. It works works much better than any
manufacturer files I've tried. However, there are
tricks to doing this correctly, as well. It took many,
many emails back and forth to colorVision to finally
establish a working, consistant procedure (at least
for some of the Epson papers I use).

-B
--- Christine  Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Hi Everyone:
 
 Well, I'm stumped:
 
 I have correctly downloaded and installed some ICC
 paper profiles from 
 Brilliant Museum (matte satin white)  MOAB (white
 satin).  I finally 
 learned where to save to  how to install for PC. 
 These two profiles show 
 up in Lightroom.  I also have chosen turn off color
 adjustment in the 
 printer dialog box as all the directions say to do,
 so there is no clash 
 between printer  ICC profile.  I've done some test
 prints, and the color is 
 hideous--reddish  black--and dark
 
 So I tried my usual settings with these two papers
 that I've never printed 
 with before--B. Museum  MOAB:  I chose Stylus Epson
 2880, Perceptual, Adobe 
 RGB in the printer dialogue box and the proper media
 type (as I use when 
 printing on Epson papers), and the prints come out
 normal and a virtual 
 likeness to the monitor.
 
 I must be doing something wrong--I know the general
 view is that ICC 
 profiles are supposed to give better print
 quality--but I just can't figure 
 out what I'm doing wrong.
 
 Any suggestions?
 Cheers, Christine
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: ICC Paper Profiles

2008-12-21 Thread PN Stenquist
I find that Epson's ICC profiles are superb. My prints are an exact  
match of my monitor.

Paul
On Dec 21, 2008, at 1:18 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote:


Have you tried printing from Print with Preview in
Photoshop? I find that it works better with profiles
than other programs. Also, make sure to turn color
controls OFF (under Color Handling: slect No color
management), do that AGAIN under the print dialog
boxes when selecting paper size, oreintation, etc.

The only other suggestion I have is not to use generic
paper profiles, even one supplied by paper
manufacturers. In my experience, they're never as good
a creating your own.

ColorVision makes a spectrocolorimeter to read color
swatches printed on the paper you're creating the
profile for. It works works much better than any
manufacturer files I've tried. However, there are
tricks to doing this correctly, as well. It took many,
many emails back and forth to colorVision to finally
establish a working, consistant procedure (at least
for some of the Epson papers I use).

-B
--- Christine  Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:


Hi Everyone:

Well, I'm stumped:

I have correctly downloaded and installed some ICC
paper profiles from
Brilliant Museum (matte satin white)  MOAB (white
satin).  I finally
learned where to save to  how to install for PC.
These two profiles show
up in Lightroom.  I also have chosen turn off color
adjustment in the
printer dialog box as all the directions say to do,
so there is no clash
between printer  ICC profile.  I've done some test
prints, and the color is
hideous--reddish  black--and dark

So I tried my usual settings with these two papers
that I've never printed
with before--B. Museum  MOAB:  I chose Stylus Epson
2880, Perceptual, Adobe
RGB in the printer dialogue box and the proper media
type (as I use when
printing on Epson papers), and the prints come out
normal and a virtual
likeness to the monitor.

I must be doing something wrong--I know the general
view is that ICC
profiles are supposed to give better print
quality--but I just can't figure
out what I'm doing wrong.

Any suggestions?
Cheers, Christine








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Re: PESO 2008 - 178 - GDG

2008-12-21 Thread Joseph McAllister
Actually, he has one of the balls in his right hand. Though blurred,  
it answered the visual question  for me. I too think the subject and  
point of eye focus is the girl's gaze.


Joseph McAllister
Pentaxian

On Dec 21, 2008, at 00:50 , Christine Aguila wrote:

Good one, Godfrey.  When I first looked at the pic, I thought the  
two light reflections over the pic right guy's shoulder were the  
balls, but then I realized of course they weren't.  I'd like the pic  
even more if I saw what the guy was juggling, but perhaps not  
necessary either.  Nice bw rendering. The girl really adds a nice  
touch to the shot.  Cheers, Christine



- Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com 


Subject: PESO 2008 - 178 - GDG


Last night, my annual visit to the San Jose Christmas In The Park  
festival ...


 http://homepage.mac.com/godders/178-thejuggler.jpg
 The Juggler - San Jose 2008
 Panasonic G1 + ZD 25mm f/2.8
 ISO 800 @ f/2.8 @ 1/15 sec

Comments and critique always appreciated.

enjoy
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Re: December PUG is up

2008-12-21 Thread DagT

Thanks Dave, and everyone else for their comments.

DagT

Den 21. des.. 2008 kl. 15.46 skrev David J Brooks:


Finally had a chance to look at the gallery for this month

Stand outs for me are:
Dag's 3+1,
Henk's After the Battle and Matthew's Great Blue Heron.
Christine's Chicago Fog.
and last but not least, Brian's Island View.

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Re: After Snowmageddon

2008-12-21 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Adam Maas 
Subject: After Snowmageddon




As I'm sure everybody knows by now, Toronto got hit by a nasty little
snowstorm on Friday. Not all that much snow, but the storm included
some nasty winds resulting in windchill down to -20C (-4 Fahrenheit).


Eastern wimps.
That's still shirtsleeve weather.

William Robb

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Re: ICC Paper Profiles

2008-12-21 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi

Subject: Re: ICC Paper Profiles




On Dec 21, 2008, at 6:18 AM, William Robb wrote:


Remember, they said Vista was better than XP


They being Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak


???

This is just too ridiculous.


Switch on your sarcasm meter and read it again. You should see significant 
deflection of the meter.


William Robb 



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Re: ICC Paper Profiles

2008-12-21 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Luiz Felipe

Subject: Re: ICC Paper Profiles



... really, really, hoping this thread remains unknown where I work...

Vista is not that bad - was released way before time, so it's just now 
coming to where it was aimed. Problem is, by now it's widely tagged as 
unreliable (wrong hardware+ early release) and slow (again, wrong 
hardware).


We bought a Vista machine late last summer to replace my XP machine for 
image editing at the studio.

It should be designed for Vista, as it is a high end OTS box.
It has an AMD quad core processor and 3 gb of RAM, two hard drives and runs 
about half as fast as my two year old (also OTS) XP box with one HD when 
running actions on bulk files.


I've turned off pretty much everything I can turn off, including the horrid 
graphics package that is Aero to no avail.
What is really irksome is that I cannot (nor can our hired gun technician) 
get the damned thing to allow full two way networking. I can pull files off 
of it, and I can import files to it if I am sitting in front of it, but I 
can't put files onto it from any other computer on the network.
two Thousand and bloody eight, and we are having to run files back and forth 
on memory cards because the computers aboslutely refuse to let us dump files 
from one machine to another because the OS seems to think it's hard drives 
are sacramental.

I am pretty underwhelmed by my Vista experience so far.

William Robb 



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Re: After Snowmageddon

2008-12-21 Thread Adam Maas
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 1:32 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:

 - Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: After Snowmageddon


 As I'm sure everybody knows by now, Toronto got hit by a nasty little
 snowstorm on Friday. Not all that much snow, but the storm included
 some nasty winds resulting in windchill down to -20C (-4 Fahrenheit).

 Eastern wimps.
 That's still shirtsleeve weather.

 William Robb

I might be stuck east of you in a town of wimps, but you're more an
easterner than I.

-Adam
(A BC Native)

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Re: ICC Paper Profiles

2008-12-21 Thread Brendan MacRae
I've found my Epson factory ICC's to be a tad warm.
They weren't bad per se, just not nearly as good to
my eye as the custom built ones.

-Brendan
--- PN Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 I find that Epson's ICC profiles are superb. My
 prints are an exact  
 match of my monitor.
 Paul
 On Dec 21, 2008, at 1:18 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote:
 
  Have you tried printing from Print with Preview
 in
  Photoshop? I find that it works better with
 profiles
  than other programs. Also, make sure to turn color
  controls OFF (under Color Handling: slect No
 color
  management), do that AGAIN under the print dialog
  boxes when selecting paper size, oreintation, etc.
 
  The only other suggestion I have is not to use
 generic
  paper profiles, even one supplied by paper
  manufacturers. In my experience, they're never as
 good
  a creating your own.
 
  ColorVision makes a spectrocolorimeter to read
 color
  swatches printed on the paper you're creating the
  profile for. It works works much better than any
  manufacturer files I've tried. However, there are
  tricks to doing this correctly, as well. It took
 many,
  many emails back and forth to colorVision to
 finally
  establish a working, consistant procedure (at
 least
  for some of the Epson papers I use).
 
  -B
  --- Christine  Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net
 wrote:
 
  Hi Everyone:
 
  Well, I'm stumped:
 
  I have correctly downloaded and installed some
 ICC
  paper profiles from
  Brilliant Museum (matte satin white)  MOAB
 (white
  satin).  I finally
  learned where to save to  how to install for PC.
  These two profiles show
  up in Lightroom.  I also have chosen turn off
 color
  adjustment in the
  printer dialog box as all the directions say to
 do,
  so there is no clash
  between printer  ICC profile.  I've done some
 test
  prints, and the color is
  hideous--reddish  black--and dark
 
  So I tried my usual settings with these two
 papers
  that I've never printed
  with before--B. Museum  MOAB:  I chose Stylus
 Epson
  2880, Perceptual, Adobe
  RGB in the printer dialogue box and the proper
 media
  type (as I use when
  printing on Epson papers), and the prints come
 out
  normal and a virtual
  likeness to the monitor.
 
  I must be doing something wrong--I know the
 general
  view is that ICC
  profiles are supposed to give better print
  quality--but I just can't figure
  out what I'm doing wrong.
 
  Any suggestions?
  Cheers, Christine
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?

2008-12-21 Thread Joseph McAllister
No exposures yet on the roll of Velvia in my stolen 67. But I still  
have two exposed rolls in the fridge. One LX has film in it, as do the  
PZ-1p and the 90-WR. In the freezer are about 80 rolls of 135-35, 30  
rolls of 120, 9 cartridges of 110, 20 sheets of 2 1/4 x 3 1/4, 60  
sheets of 4x5, and 75 sheets of 8x10.


Guess I'd better get out there.

But can I afford to have them processed when I do shoot them?


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Re: ICC Paper Profiles

2008-12-21 Thread Christine Aguila


- Original Message - 
From: Brendan MacRae brendanmacrae1...@yahoo.com




Have you tried printing from Print with Preview in
Photoshop? I find that it works better with profiles
than other programs. Also, make sure to turn color
controls OFF (under Color Handling: slect No color
management), do that AGAIN under the print dialog
boxes when selecting paper size, oreintation, etc.


I just tried this (assuming I followed your directions correctly) and I got 
the same poor results.




The only other suggestion I have is not to use generic
paper profiles, even one supplied by paper
manufacturers. In my experience, they're never as good
a creating your own.

ColorVision makes a spectrocolorimeter to read color
swatches printed on the paper you're creating the
profile for. It works works much better than any
manufacturer files I've tried. However, there are
tricks to doing this correctly, as well. It took many,
many emails back and forth to colorVision to finally
establish a working, consistant procedure (at least
for some of the Epson papers I use).



Yes, I just learned about this, and it sounds interesting to learn more 
about, but that will have to wait.  I think I'll just stick to my normal 
settings, since I'm very happy with the prints at that these settings.  It's 
time to move on, and get my printing done for the holidays, but I am 
determined to figure this out--it's become a matter of principle now. :-)


Thanks, Brendan
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Re: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?

2008-12-21 Thread Peter Alling
Not so much a question of can you afford it but will you find a lab that will 
do a good job processing it, (and by a good job I mean simply returning 
negatives that aren't smegged up due to contaminated chemicals).  One of the 
main reasons I picked up a *ist D three years ago was that all the 
professional photo labs within easy walk or short drive were going out of 
business.

-Original Message-
From: Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com
Sent: Dec 21, 2008 1:59 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?

No exposures yet on the roll of Velvia in my stolen 67. But I still  
have two exposed rolls in the fridge. One LX has film in it, as do the  
PZ-1p and the 90-WR. In the freezer are about 80 rolls of 135-35, 30  
rolls of 120, 9 cartridges of 110, 20 sheets of 2 1/4 x 3 1/4, 60  
sheets of 4x5, and 75 sheets of 8x10.

Guess I'd better get out there.

But can I afford to have them processed when I do shoot them?


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Re: ICC Paper Profiles

2008-12-21 Thread Christine Aguila


- Original Message - 
From: ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com



Wait a minute... if you got good prints by the second method you mention 
below  -  it sounds like you

were doing something right and changed to something wrong :-)

Remember, they said Vista was better than XP

xo,
ann


True enough, Ann. :-).  I'm still running XP too!  Cheers, Christine


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Re: PESO 2008 - 178 - GDG

2008-12-21 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote:

 Actually, he has one of the balls in his right hand.

Mark!

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Re: ICC Paper Profiles

2008-12-21 Thread PN Stenquist
That could well be a function of the white point setting on your  
monitor or another calibration variable. My iMac 24 monitor is set to  
native white point, and it's calibrated every couple of weeks. The  
color temp that my Epson R2400 delivers with the Epson ICC profiles is  
identical to what I see on my monitor.

Paul
On Dec 21, 2008, at 1:58 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote:


I've found my Epson factory ICC's to be a tad warm.
They weren't bad per se, just not nearly as good to
my eye as the custom built ones.

-Brendan
--- PN Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:


I find that Epson's ICC profiles are superb. My
prints are an exact
match of my monitor.
Paul
On Dec 21, 2008, at 1:18 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote:


Have you tried printing from Print with Preview

in

Photoshop? I find that it works better with

profiles

than other programs. Also, make sure to turn color
controls OFF (under Color Handling: slect No

color

management), do that AGAIN under the print dialog
boxes when selecting paper size, oreintation, etc.

The only other suggestion I have is not to use

generic

paper profiles, even one supplied by paper
manufacturers. In my experience, they're never as

good

a creating your own.

ColorVision makes a spectrocolorimeter to read

color

swatches printed on the paper you're creating the
profile for. It works works much better than any
manufacturer files I've tried. However, there are
tricks to doing this correctly, as well. It took

many,

many emails back and forth to colorVision to

finally

establish a working, consistant procedure (at

least

for some of the Epson papers I use).

-B
--- Christine  Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net

wrote:



Hi Everyone:

Well, I'm stumped:

I have correctly downloaded and installed some

ICC

paper profiles from
Brilliant Museum (matte satin white)  MOAB

(white

satin).  I finally
learned where to save to  how to install for PC.
These two profiles show
up in Lightroom.  I also have chosen turn off

color

adjustment in the
printer dialog box as all the directions say to

do,

so there is no clash
between printer  ICC profile.  I've done some

test

prints, and the color is
hideous--reddish  black--and dark

So I tried my usual settings with these two

papers

that I've never printed
with before--B. Museum  MOAB:  I chose Stylus

Epson

2880, Perceptual, Adobe
RGB in the printer dialogue box and the proper

media

type (as I use when
printing on Epson papers), and the prints come

out

normal and a virtual
likeness to the monitor.

I must be doing something wrong--I know the

general

view is that ICC
profiles are supposed to give better print
quality--but I just can't figure
out what I'm doing wrong.

Any suggestions?
Cheers, Christine








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Re: OT Some winter observations

2008-12-21 Thread Joseph McAllister

2008/12/21 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com:
Its snowing, yes another storm in Toronto. Expecting a whopping 3  
cm's.


http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/

My attempt at snowed in humor.

Dave



My sentiments exaktly.

I grew up in New England. When we had 2 feet of snow it meant you  
skipped school (never closed) and headed for New Hampshire or Vermont  
to get some ski time in. The roads were always plowed to a couple of  
inches of packed powder. But it was hilly, so you tried to never slow  
down. If someone was stuck on a hill in front of you, you floored it  
and went around. Probably an old lady!


Driving in Canada later in life, whilst attending Montana State  
College, on my way to Banff/Lake Louise, I had a chance to practice  
the technique of when you saw the road curving  one way or the other,  
and you were going 70 mph, you cranked in a skid slightly in that  
direction 1/4 mile before you got there, stayed on the gas, and slid  
through it with no problem. Roads were always 2 inches of ice. Only  
once was I surprised by a quickly decreasing radius turn, and ended up  
sliding backwards thru some cemetery gates backwards (they were open),  
coming to rest a few feet short of a large granite monument. Instantly  
four guys got out of the, took a piss and crossed themselves. But not  
me. I'm not a Catholic!  :-)


Seattle is currently paralyzed by around 6 of snow. 24 hour news  
coverage. Sky is falling reportage.


Gotta go. Taking the dogs to the leash free park so they can romp.

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Re: OT Some winter observations

2008-12-21 Thread Joseph McAllister

Why bread?

On Dec 21, 2008, at 06:01 , Bill Owens wrote:


Hell, here in North Carolina, just the threat of any kind of frozen
precip causes a run on the grocery stores for milk and bread, even
though said precip will be gone in less than 24 hours. (I used to
stock up on bread and beer)

Bill

On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 8:50 AM, David J Brooks  
pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
Its snowing, yes another storm in Toronto. Expecting a whopping 3  
cm's.


http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/

My attempt at snowed in humor.

Dave


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Re: ICC Paper Profiles

2008-12-21 Thread Joseph McAllister


On Dec 21, 2008, at 06:18 , William Robb wrote:

- Original Message - From: ann sanfedele Subject: Re: ICC  
Paper Profiles



Remember, they said Vista was better than XP


They being Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak

William Robb



If Woz hadn't been such a nice guy, and had had the cut-throat  
personality of Steve, we wouldn't be talking about Vista. Bill would  
have been beat down early on. Microsoft would be selling trackballs  
and keyboards.


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Re: ICC Paper Profiles

2008-12-21 Thread George Sinos
Christine -

Did you go into your epson printer driver and turn off color management?

When you let lightroom or photoshop do the color management, you must
turn it off in the epson configuration screen or you get of double
dose of color correction which would result in something undesired

GS

On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 1:33 AM, Christine  Aguila
cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Hi Everyone:

 Well, I'm stumped:

 I have correctly downloaded and installed some ICC paper profiles from
 Brilliant Museum (matte satin white)  MOAB (white satin).  I finally
 learned where to save to  how to install for PC.  These two profiles show
 up in Lightroom.  I also have chosen turn off color adjustment in the
 printer dialog box as all the directions say to do, so there is no clash
 between printer  ICC profile.  I've done some test prints, and the color is
 hideous--reddish  black--and dark

 So I tried my usual settings with these two papers that I've never printed
 with before--B. Museum  MOAB:  I chose Stylus Epson 2880, Perceptual, Adobe
 RGB in the printer dialogue box and the proper media type (as I use when
 printing on Epson papers), and the prints come out normal and a virtual
 likeness to the monitor.

 I must be doing something wrong--I know the general view is that ICC
 profiles are supposed to give better print quality--but I just can't figure
 out what I'm doing wrong.

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Re: PESO - Long Wait in the Snow - with a URL this time

2008-12-21 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Dec 21, 2008, at 06:29 , ann sanfedele wrote:

I like it,   although I think he was jsut talking on his cell  
phone :-)

ann



A new definition of the term public phone booth.


frank theriault wrote:


It's been snowing here a bit - not much, but a bit.

First snow of the season always gums up traffic.  Every year it's the
same thing - first snow, and one would think we'd never driven in the
stuff before.  On Friday night we had hardly any, but it was enough  
to

snarl things at major intersections.  This poor guy waiting for the
bus at Yonge near Eglinton seems somewhat exasperated:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/12/long-wait-in-snow.html


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Re: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?

2008-12-21 Thread Joseph McAllister


On Dec 21, 2008, at 11:11 , Peter Alling wrote:

Not so much a question of can you afford it but will you find a lab  
that will do a good job processing it, (and by a good job I mean  
simply returning negatives that aren't smegged up due to  
contaminated chemicals).  One of the main reasons I picked up a *ist  
D three years ago was that all the professional photo labs within  
easy walk or short drive were going out of business.



We still have two pro labs open here in the Seattle area. At least we  
did two years ago when I last used one. Like many others they were  
down to one E-6 run per day, or every other. But they had been gearing  
up for digital for years, offering custom scanning and printing. Less  
'C' type and more inkjet.


When I go into town tomorrow I'll have to stop by and see what their  
price list and setup looks like now. Might get those two rolls of 120  
processed too.


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Re: ICC Paper Profiles

2008-12-21 Thread Brendan MacRae
No, it's not the white point setting. And I do
calibrate my monitor often.

Every monitor/printer is different. A generic printer
profile created on another system won't necessarily
translate to another system. That's why it's best to
create your own profiles, using your own printer and
and it's unique color gamut. This way, you're
calibrating the profile to YOUR printer and ITS ink
set which may be very different from the values used
in creating the generic profile.

Also, you'll never get that close to an exact match
between a monitor and a printed image since the two
are only fascimiles of the other. An image on a
monitor is created with millions of colors. On my
Epson 4800, it's created with 8 colors. The ICC
profile is only there to best approximate the
translation into shades of ink drops. In my
experience, it's best to use a profile created both on
the paper I want to profile which is also printed from
the printer that is used to create the final image.
Variations can actually occur just by scanning the
color swatches with or without an add'l blank piece of
paper placed underneath the sampling color target.
Variations also occur when the image isn't fully dry. 

The other nice thing about custom profiles is that the
software allows you to tweak already existing profiles
to change individual color values and other settings.
Then, you can save these settings as a totally new
profile for specific prints or a series of prints. 

-Brendan
--- PN Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 That could well be a function of the white point
 setting on your  
 monitor or another calibration variable. My iMac 24
 monitor is set to  
 native white point, and it's calibrated every couple
 of weeks. The  
 color temp that my Epson R2400 delivers with the
 Epson ICC profiles is  
 identical to what I see on my monitor.
 Paul
 On Dec 21, 2008, at 1:58 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote:
 
  I've found my Epson factory ICC's to be a tad
 warm.
  They weren't bad per se, just not nearly as good
 to
  my eye as the custom built ones.
 
  -Brendan
  --- PN Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 
  I find that Epson's ICC profiles are superb. My
  prints are an exact
  match of my monitor.
  Paul
  On Dec 21, 2008, at 1:18 PM, Brendan MacRae
 wrote:
 
  Have you tried printing from Print with
 Preview
  in
  Photoshop? I find that it works better with
  profiles
  than other programs. Also, make sure to turn
 color
  controls OFF (under Color Handling: slect No
  color
  management), do that AGAIN under the print
 dialog
  boxes when selecting paper size, oreintation,
 etc.
 
  The only other suggestion I have is not to use
  generic
  paper profiles, even one supplied by paper
  manufacturers. In my experience, they're never
 as
  good
  a creating your own.
 
  ColorVision makes a spectrocolorimeter to read
  color
  swatches printed on the paper you're creating
 the
  profile for. It works works much better than any
  manufacturer files I've tried. However, there
 are
  tricks to doing this correctly, as well. It took
  many,
  many emails back and forth to colorVision to
  finally
  establish a working, consistant procedure (at
  least
  for some of the Epson papers I use).
 
  -B
  --- Christine  Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net
  wrote:
 
  Hi Everyone:
 
  Well, I'm stumped:
 
  I have correctly downloaded and installed some
  ICC
  paper profiles from
  Brilliant Museum (matte satin white)  MOAB
  (white
  satin).  I finally
  learned where to save to  how to install for
 PC.
  These two profiles show
  up in Lightroom.  I also have chosen turn off
  color
  adjustment in the
  printer dialog box as all the directions say to
  do,
  so there is no clash
  between printer  ICC profile.  I've done some
  test
  prints, and the color is
  hideous--reddish  black--and dark
 
  So I tried my usual settings with these two
  papers
  that I've never printed
  with before--B. Museum  MOAB:  I chose Stylus
  Epson
  2880, Perceptual, Adobe
  RGB in the printer dialogue box and the proper
  media
  type (as I use when
  printing on Epson papers), and the prints come
  out
  normal and a virtual
  likeness to the monitor.
 
  I must be doing something wrong--I know the
  general
  view is that ICC
  profiles are supposed to give better print
  quality--but I just can't figure
  out what I'm doing wrong.
 
  Any suggestions?
  Cheers, Christine
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?

2008-12-21 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Dec 21, 2008, at 11:54 , Joseph McAllister wrote:


On Dec 21, 2008, at 11:11 , Peter Alling wrote:

Not so much a question of can you afford it but will you find a lab  
that will do a good job processing it, (and by a good job I mean  
simply returning negatives that aren't smegged up due to  
contaminated chemicals).  One of the main reasons I picked up a  
*ist D three years ago was that all the professional photo labs  
within easy walk or short drive were going out of business.



We still have two pro labs open here in the Seattle area. At least  
we did two years ago when I last used one. Like many others they  
were down to one E-6 run per day, or every other. But they had been  
gearing up for digital for years, offering custom scanning and  
printing. Less 'C' type and more inkjet.



Wooops...

Ivey Photo Imaging, Seattle, Washington
Closed on June 30, 2008 after more than 30 years in business, regarded  
by many pro photographers as Seattle's sole remaining professional  
photo lab. Ivey's reputation for meticulous processing and printing  
E-6 slide film, C-41 color print film, black and white film and large  
sheet film made the lab unique in the Pacific Northwest. Originally  
known as Ivey-Seright, the lab was sold to the ill-fated international  
Photobition chain which went into receivership in 2001. In 2002 the  
lab was purchased by former general manager Ron Incontro, restoring  
the Ivey name until closure in 2008.


Prolab Visual Imaging Services, Seattle, Washington
Prolab closed their doors in 2008 after serving Seattle's photographic  
community for more than 25 years.


Those were the two I was counting on. Also had used...

Overlake Photo Lab, Bellevue, Washington
Closed for business in 2005, the last remaining pro quality film  
processor on the eastside of Lake Washington. Done in by digital and  
the rapid decline in consumer film developing


Arscentia, Bellevue, Washington
Traditional lab services no longer available. Services include high- 
resolution scanning, color correction, image manipulation, retail and  
point-of-purchase display graphics, photomurals for stores, trade show  
displays, outdoor exhibits and events, mass transit advertising,  
corporate, museum and art displays, and posters, banners and  
presentation graphics. Founded in 1971, formerly a film processing lab  
known as Wy'east Color.


'nuff said.

Still seem to have some smaller custom labs around, including my  
favorite BW.


Moonphoto in Ballard.
Founded in 1974, a professional custom lab, doing black and white and  
C-41 color film processing, fiber-based and RC (resin-coated) bw  
enlargements, scanning, digital prints, retouching, giclee prints, and  
traditional optical prints up to 4x6 feet. Located on Greenwood Avenue  
North.  BW, C-41


Ballard Camera, Seattle, Washington
Camera store and one hour photofinishing. Upload your digital files,  
order prints and photo gifts online. In store develop and print  
services, reprints and enlargements up to 24”x50', In house E-6  
(slide) processing,
prints from slides, slides from prints and prints from prints. Digital  
printing services, picture frames, photo albums and passport photos  
while you wait. BW, C-41, E-6


Kenmore Camera, Kenmore, Washington
Since 1974, North Seattle's independently-owned camera store. Order  
digital photo prints online from the convenience of your home. Self- 
service Noritsu kiosk and in-house C-41 color processing, color prints  
and enlargements on Kodak Royal paper. CD scans, photo business cards  
and greeting cards. BW, C-41, E-6


Panda Lab, Seattle, Washington
Is the professional custom photo lab an endangered species? Not any  
moresince 1983. Digital and traditional photo printing. Black and  
white, C-41,and E-6 film processing. Personal service. Limited  
information on the web site. Located in the Queen Anne neighborhood.  
BW, C-41, E-6



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Re: ICC Paper Profiles

2008-12-21 Thread PN Stenquist
That makes sense. Fortunately, the Epson profiles seem to be right in  
synch with my system. But I'll keep this in mind in case I want to use  
other papers.  I use to use Hannemuhle William Turner Rag quite a bit,  
but the available profiles are iffy. But Im equally happy with Epson  
Velvet Fine Art, which dials in precisely. And it doesn't chip as  
easily as the Hannemuhle sheet.

Paul
On Dec 21, 2008, at 3:03 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote:


No, it's not the white point setting. And I do
calibrate my monitor often.

Every monitor/printer is different. A generic printer
profile created on another system won't necessarily
translate to another system. That's why it's best to
create your own profiles, using your own printer and
and it's unique color gamut. This way, you're
calibrating the profile to YOUR printer and ITS ink
set which may be very different from the values used
in creating the generic profile.

Also, you'll never get that close to an exact match
between a monitor and a printed image since the two
are only fascimiles of the other. An image on a
monitor is created with millions of colors. On my
Epson 4800, it's created with 8 colors. The ICC
profile is only there to best approximate the
translation into shades of ink drops. In my
experience, it's best to use a profile created both on
the paper I want to profile which is also printed from
the printer that is used to create the final image.
Variations can actually occur just by scanning the
color swatches with or without an add'l blank piece of
paper placed underneath the sampling color target.
Variations also occur when the image isn't fully dry.

The other nice thing about custom profiles is that the
software allows you to tweak already existing profiles
to change individual color values and other settings.
Then, you can save these settings as a totally new
profile for specific prints or a series of prints.

-Brendan
--- PN Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:


That could well be a function of the white point
setting on your
monitor or another calibration variable. My iMac 24
monitor is set to
native white point, and it's calibrated every couple
of weeks. The
color temp that my Epson R2400 delivers with the
Epson ICC profiles is
identical to what I see on my monitor.
Paul
On Dec 21, 2008, at 1:58 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote:


I've found my Epson factory ICC's to be a tad

warm.

They weren't bad per se, just not nearly as good

to

my eye as the custom built ones.

-Brendan
--- PN Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:


I find that Epson's ICC profiles are superb. My
prints are an exact
match of my monitor.
Paul
On Dec 21, 2008, at 1:18 PM, Brendan MacRae

wrote:



Have you tried printing from Print with

Preview

in

Photoshop? I find that it works better with

profiles

than other programs. Also, make sure to turn

color

controls OFF (under Color Handling: slect No

color

management), do that AGAIN under the print

dialog

boxes when selecting paper size, oreintation,

etc.


The only other suggestion I have is not to use

generic

paper profiles, even one supplied by paper
manufacturers. In my experience, they're never

as

good

a creating your own.

ColorVision makes a spectrocolorimeter to read

color

swatches printed on the paper you're creating

the

profile for. It works works much better than any
manufacturer files I've tried. However, there

are

tricks to doing this correctly, as well. It took

many,

many emails back and forth to colorVision to

finally

establish a working, consistant procedure (at

least

for some of the Epson papers I use).

-B
--- Christine  Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net

wrote:



Hi Everyone:

Well, I'm stumped:

I have correctly downloaded and installed some

ICC

paper profiles from
Brilliant Museum (matte satin white)  MOAB

(white

satin).  I finally
learned where to save to  how to install for

PC.

These two profiles show
up in Lightroom.  I also have chosen turn off

color

adjustment in the
printer dialog box as all the directions say to

do,

so there is no clash
between printer  ICC profile.  I've done some

test

prints, and the color is
hideous--reddish  black--and dark

So I tried my usual settings with these two

papers

that I've never printed
with before--B. Museum  MOAB:  I chose Stylus

Epson

2880, Perceptual, Adobe
RGB in the printer dialogue box and the proper

media

type (as I use when
printing on Epson papers), and the prints come

out

normal and a virtual
likeness to the monitor.

I must be doing something wrong--I know the

general

view is that ICC
profiles are supposed to give better print
quality--but I just can't figure
out what I'm doing wrong.

Any suggestions?
Cheers, Christine








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Re: OT GESO: Nouvelle Vague w Bridezilla

2008-12-21 Thread Derby Chang
Thanks everyone who commented. Yes, I do like a well turned out pair of 
feet.


Thanks for the suggestion to clone out the black spot on the last one, 
Christine. Much better.


cheers,
Derby


Joseph McAllister wrote:

Some nice shots in there, D.

Did we already determine your foot fetish?   :-)

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On Dec 19, 2008, at 13:17 , Derby Chang wrote:



Sex Pistols a la Bossa Nova. Ah, Gallic post-modern irony. More fun 
than a barrel of Derridas


http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08/08_12/08_12_nouvelle/index.htm

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RE: OT Some winter observations

2008-12-21 Thread Bob W
 Instantly  
 four guys got out of the, took a piss and crossed themselves. 
 But not  
 me. I'm not a Catholic!  :-)

Only Catholics pee?

Bob

 -Original Message-
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On 
 Behalf Of Joseph McAllister
 Sent: 21 December 2008 19:34
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: OT Some winter observations
 
 2008/12/21 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com:
  Its snowing, yes another storm in Toronto. Expecting a whopping 3  
  cm's.
 
  http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
 
  My attempt at snowed in humor.
 
  Dave
 
 
 My sentiments exaktly.
 
 I grew up in New England. When we had 2 feet of snow it meant you  
 skipped school (never closed) and headed for New Hampshire or 
 Vermont  
 to get some ski time in. The roads were always plowed to a couple of  
 inches of packed powder. But it was hilly, so you tried to 
 never slow  
 down. If someone was stuck on a hill in front of you, you floored it  
 and went around. Probably an old lady!
 
 Driving in Canada later in life, whilst attending Montana State  
 College, on my way to Banff/Lake Louise, I had a chance to practice  
 the technique of when you saw the road curving  one way or 
 the other,  
 and you were going 70 mph, you cranked in a skid slightly in that  
 direction 1/4 mile before you got there, stayed on the gas, and slid  
 through it with no problem. Roads were always 2 inches of ice. Only  
 once was I surprised by a quickly decreasing radius turn, and 
 ended up  
 sliding backwards thru some cemetery gates backwards (they 
 were open),  
 coming to rest a few feet short of a large granite monument. 
 Instantly  
 four guys got out of the, took a piss and crossed themselves. 
 But not  
 me. I'm not a Catholic!  :-)
 
 Seattle is currently paralyzed by around 6 of snow. 24 hour news  
 coverage. Sky is falling reportage.
 
 Gotta go. Taking the dogs to the leash free park so they can romp.
 
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Re: OT Some winter observations

2008-12-21 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 Instantly
 four guys got out of the, took a piss and crossed themselves.
 But not
 me. I'm not a Catholic!  :-)

 Only Catholics pee?

Does the Pope shit in the woods?

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Re: testing the G1 ...

2008-12-21 Thread Derby Chang

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

On Dec 19, 2008, at 12:27 PM, Bob W wrote:


That's very interesting to read and see, Godfrey. Would you mind
photographing the G1 next to the E-1?


I'll do that when I get back from the post office, Bob.


What is the EVF like, compared to a proper viewfinder?



There's no mistaking that it's an EVF ... you're looking at a video 
image rather than an optical image ... but it's very bright and easy 
to see, the resolution is 1.4Mpixel and the refresh is 60hz so it 
appears nearly as sharp as a good computer monitor. I find it very 
easy to focus with, manually, particularly with the MF Assist 
magnification function. It does not have that crisp feel of a 'live 
optical view', however. In very low light, it gets noisy and lag 
develops, due to the refresh, where with the optical viewfinder things 
just get too dark to see.




Thanks Godfrey,

I was curious how the EVF performs in low light. The reviews I've read 
have mentioned the lag, but skirt around the useability. Does the MF 
assist work ok in low light too?


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Re: PESO - Downunder Santa

2008-12-21 Thread Derby Chang

Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

Just wishing everyone all the best for the holiday season and lots of
photo opportunities in '09.

This is just a fun shot.  There's no Pentax content but it fits the
holiday theme (M42 mount Fujica AZ-1 with a 90 mm Tamron using Fujicolor
200).  The photo is of my neighbour's front fence, suitably enhanced for
the season. 



http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/106202/Christmas_at_Castlereagh.html



Bingle Jells

Brian
  



Har. I think Mrs Claus needs to get Santa a new, larger pair of slacks 
for Christmas


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Re: ICC Paper Profiles

2008-12-21 Thread Ken Waller
I had a pro photog friend on mine give up on Vista in his new Dell, demanded 
 finally got them to install Xp (this was a little after Vista came out).


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: William Robb war...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: ICC Paper Profiles




- Original Message - 
From: Luiz Felipe

Subject: Re: ICC Paper Profiles



... really, really, hoping this thread remains unknown where I work...

Vista is not that bad - was released way before time, so it's just now 
coming to where it was aimed. Problem is, by now it's widely tagged as 
unreliable (wrong hardware+ early release) and slow (again, wrong 
hardware).


We bought a Vista machine late last summer to replace my XP machine for 
image editing at the studio.

It should be designed for Vista, as it is a high end OTS box.
It has an AMD quad core processor and 3 gb of RAM, two hard drives and 
runs about half as fast as my two year old (also OTS) XP box with one HD 
when running actions on bulk files.


I've turned off pretty much everything I can turn off, including the 
horrid graphics package that is Aero to no avail.
What is really irksome is that I cannot (nor can our hired gun technician) 
get the damned thing to allow full two way networking. I can pull files 
off of it, and I can import files to it if I am sitting in front of it, 
but I can't put files onto it from any other computer on the network.
two Thousand and bloody eight, and we are having to run files back and 
forth on memory cards because the computers aboslutely refuse to let us 
dump files from one machine to another because the OS seems to think it's 
hard drives are sacramental.

I am pretty underwhelmed by my Vista experience so far.

William Robb



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Re: OT Some winter observations

2008-12-21 Thread David Savage
So you can make toast...

2008/12/22 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com:
 Why bread?

 On Dec 21, 2008, at 06:01 , Bill Owens wrote:

 Hell, here in North Carolina, just the threat of any kind of frozen
 precip causes a run on the grocery stores for milk and bread, even
 though said precip will be gone in less than 24 hours. (I used to
 stock up on bread and beer)

 Bill

 On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 8:50 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
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 Its snowing, yes another storm in Toronto. Expecting a whopping 3 cm's.

 http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/

 My attempt at snowed in humor.

 Dave

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Re: testing the G1 ...

2008-12-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Dec 21, 2008, at 1:01 PM, Derby Chang wrote:

There's no mistaking that it's an EVF ... you're looking at a video  
image rather than an optical image ... but it's very bright and  
easy to see, the resolution is 1.4Mpixel and the refresh is 60hz so  
it appears nearly as sharp as a good computer monitor. I find it  
very easy to focus with, manually, particularly with the MF Assist  
magnification function. It does not have that crisp feel of a 'live  
optical view', however. In very low light, it gets noisy and lag  
develops, due to the refresh, where with the optical viewfinder  
things just get too dark to see.




I was curious how the EVF performs in low light. The reviews I've  
read have mentioned the lag, but skirt around the useability. Does  
the MF assist work ok in low light too?


I find it very usable, and in many situations much moreso than optical  
viewfinders ... either SLR or RF. The way the viewfinder amps up in  
low light allows me to see the subject and focus point better than  
either of the optical viewfinder types despite the noise and lag. The  
MF Assist works well, even in low light.


There comes a point where there's not enough light to form an image,  
but the light levels then are so low you can't see with an optical  
viewfinder either in most cases.


Godfrey

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Re: ICC Paper Profiles

2008-12-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Dec 21, 2008, at 10:35 AM, William Robb wrote:


Remember, they said Vista was better than XP

They being Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak

???
This is just too ridiculous.


Switch on your sarcasm meter and read it again. You should see  
significant deflection of the meter.


Sorry, it's just a meaningless collection of words and names to me.

Godfrey

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Re: ICC Paper Profiles

2008-12-21 Thread Jack Davis
Had a DELL drive..etc crash awhile back and the replacement was loaded with 
Vista Home Premium. Have dealt with it, somehow, and will continue to wallow in 
my lack of initiative in demanding it be replaced with XP.
Satisfies my need for something to use as a basis for feeling sorry for myself. 
;-(

Jack


--- On Sun, 12/21/08, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

 From: Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com
 Subject: Re: ICC Paper Profiles
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 1:14 PM
 I had a pro photog friend on mine give up on Vista in his
 new Dell, demanded  finally got them to install Xp
 (this was a little after Vista came out).
 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
 
 - Original Message - From: William Robb
 war...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: ICC Paper Profiles
 
 
  
  - Original Message - From: Luiz
 Felipe
  Subject: Re: ICC Paper Profiles
  
  
  ... really, really, hoping this thread remains
 unknown where I work...
  
  Vista is not that bad - was released way before
 time, so it's just now coming to where it was aimed.
 Problem is, by now it's widely tagged as unreliable
 (wrong hardware+ early release) and slow (again, wrong
 hardware).
  
  We bought a Vista machine late last summer to replace
 my XP machine for image editing at the studio.
  It should be designed for Vista, as it is a high end
 OTS box.
  It has an AMD quad core processor and 3 gb of RAM, two
 hard drives and runs about half as fast as my two year old
 (also OTS) XP box with one HD when running actions on bulk
 files.
  
  I've turned off pretty much everything I can turn
 off, including the horrid graphics package that is Aero to
 no avail.
  What is really irksome is that I cannot (nor can our
 hired gun technician) get the damned thing to allow full two
 way networking. I can pull files off of it, and I can import
 files to it if I am sitting in front of it, but I can't
 put files onto it from any other computer on the network.
  two Thousand and bloody eight, and we are having to
 run files back and forth on memory cards because the
 computers aboslutely refuse to let us dump files from one
 machine to another because the OS seems to think it's
 hard drives are sacramental.
  I am pretty underwhelmed by my Vista experience so
 far.
  
  William Robb
 
 
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Re: ICC Paper Profiles

2008-12-21 Thread Steve Sharpe

At 1:02 PM -0200 12/21/08, Luiz Felipe wrote:
... but vista IS better than XP... if you happen to fix computers 
for living, at least part-time. ;-)


I do hope no client of mine reads this...


Q: How does an IT person spell job security?

A: W-I-N-D-O-W-S.


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