Re: Directions of photography?

[Larry Colen]

On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 07:12:44AM +0200, Boris Liberman wrote:
> P.S. As yet another side effect I got myself a rather nice Metz 40MZ-2 
> flash with SCA 372 and SCA 3701 modules from a fellow list member that 
> work wonders on my K10D. Pity it was after all these shoots but probably 
> coming Passover holidays will allow me to field-test-apply my new flash!

The jokes on you, they're going to use your SD cards for the afikomen.


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Re: Goin' to Chicago

[Larry Colen]

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:12:03PM -0500, Christine  Aguila wrote:

> Hi Larry:  Sounds like you'll be busy with dance fun.  Let us know if a 
> free moment comes up for a drink.  We might be able to meet you some
> where. 

I just made my flight itinerary

I get into Midway at 6:33 PM on Thursday 4/30 and leave for home
3:36PM on Tuesday 5/5.

I'll let people know about free time for lunch and dinner. If anyone
likes music, there will be live bands at several of the venues.

I think that the last official event of the weekend ends about 5AM
monday morning (judging by prior events), and I don't think there is
much, if anything scheduled monday evening, or during the day Friday
or Monday.

> Hope all your twirling comes round right :-).  Cheers, Christine

Here's some video of blues dancing I took with my IR FZ-20:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157607735540587/

The quality would make Cotty cringe, but his rig might not do much
better at EV0, -1 or whatever you call it when the nominal exposure is
ISO 3200, f/1.8 1/6 second.

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Re: Long awaited enablement

[Boris Liberman]

You did really well, Sir Ralf. The price and the lens are worthy of your 
lens bag, and of course your camera and the tripod it is attached thereto.


;-)

Boris


Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:

At last:

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=290303083966

...to a popular tune from "My fair Lady". :-))

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Re: Directions of photography?

[Boris Liberman]

Bob W wrote:

I hate gimmicky photography, but wedding photography has always been cheesy,
and it always will be. Even the so-called reportage style of wedding
photography is a cliche-ridden bowl of saccharine and maple syrup. What else
can you expect?

Bob


Bob, you have your way with words, surely so. I, for one, don't do 
photography for profit. Although as of recently I have to shoot lots of 
events of my daughter's class. Which is somewhat akin to wedding 
photography as I have to produce coverage (at least two-three shots of 
each kid, given 30+ of them) and of course quality. I decided (since I 
get to do what I want) that I just shoot, apply minimal processing (say, 
2-3 mins of LR for each chosen shot) and produce a disk with web size 
and full res images. So far parents appear to quite like the outcome. 
But then again I do it for fun and for free and as a bonus I get to 
watch after my daughter during all these events...


I reckon this is a truly small token in this discussion, but still.

Boris

P.S. As yet another side effect I got myself a rather nice Metz 40MZ-2 
flash with SCA 372 and SCA 3701 modules from a fellow list member that 
work wonders on my K10D. Pity it was after all these shoots but probably 
coming Passover holidays will allow me to field-test-apply my new flash!


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Re: PESO 2009 - 025 - GDG

[Boris Liberman]

Godfrey, is this 40/1.4 optic dedicated to micro-4/3?

Boris


Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
:-) ... well, I don't *need* all the lenses I have. while I'm shaping my 
kit, a few extras let me work out what is needed.


The 25/2.8, 40/1.4 and 70/2 (that's on the way) are going to cover most 
of it. When the Panny 20/1.7 comes out, that could steal some of the Oly 
25's place. Then there's the 7-14/4 to follow.


I get to decide just how much of the SLR gear I need to keep afterwards. 
...


Godfrey

On Mar 17, 2009, at 2:43 PM, John Graves wrote:

I like the leaves! It gives me hope for the pictures I took on St 
Simon, GA.

BTW...Are there any lenses you haven't transformed to keepers for the G1?


http://homepage.mac.com/godders/025-baristas.jpg



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Re: PESO: apocalypse now (of sorts)

[Boris Liberman]

Hmmm, it is a wonderful photograph indeed. Disturbing in a way!

Boris



Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3353842076/


pentax k10d, da 50-200

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Re: PESO - Yoga Plus (version 3)

[Boris Liberman]

Geez, I did not notice two more versions, when I just responded to the 
very first one. This one is best of the bunch, IMO.





frank theriault wrote:

Last iteration of this one, I promise, but as Godfriey said he'd like
a square version (well, he didn't actually say that, but the crop he
suggested ended up being square), here's my last try at this one:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/yoga-plus-version-3.html

I'm torn between versions 2 and 3 - can see strong and weak points to
each.  Your thoughts would be most helpful.

BTW, for reference, here's version 2:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/yoga-plus-version-2.html

Thanks!

cheers,
frank





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Re: PESO - Yoga Plus

[Boris Liberman]

Frank, methink (so boldly) that cropping it from the right so as to make 
it square (or almost square) would improve it somewhat.




frank theriault wrote:

I don't know why I thought this was funny, but I did:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/yoga-plus.html

Comments always welcome.

cheers,
frank




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Re: GESO: MX Resurrected

[Boris Liberman]

Derby, all these shots have very 1960-s kind of feel in them. So, it may 
even be said that your MX got overfixed and took you too far ago into 
the past...


;-)


Derby Chang wrote:


Hooray. Recall I mentioned I had an MX that C.R. Kennedy declined to 
repair. I took it to another place in the city that I've been to a few 
times before (Camera Service Centre) and they fixed it in a week. Now 
it's all working fine and dandy. Such a haptic pleasure to use, I must 
do this more often.


http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/09/09_03/09_03_mx/index.htm

Next stop, a Black and White Cobra reskin from cameraleather. Yeeha.

D





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Re: Family album - Baby Anat gets tired

[Bruce Dayton]

The second shot is my favorite.  She sure is cute!

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BL> Hi!

BL> Just a couple of shots of baby Anat...

BL> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/03/baby-anat-is-tired.html

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RE: DA* 55/1.4 First Picture

[JC OConnell]

I would like to see this lens compared to the
little know "other" 55mm K mount lenses, the
SMCK 55/1.8/2.0. To be fair, it would be best
to put a 83mm equiv hood on them to limit their
image circles in the camera. I wouldnt expect them
to be as good near wide open, but stopped down
somewhat would be interesting... The K55 lenses
are pretty good from what I remember with film
tests, less distortion than the 50mmF1.4 lenses
had too.  

JC O'Connell
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Hi William:  Wow!  Wow!  Wow!  I love your protrait.  I want the lens.
I 
want the lens.  I want the lens.  :-)  Cheers, Christine



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Subject: DA* 55/1.4 First Picture


> OK, it isn't much, and you'd never be able to drink him cute, but he's

> a
> good friend, even with the choice in camera gear.
>
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/55-14.html
>
> Technical:
> K20 @ ISO 640.
> DA*55/1.4 @ f/3.2
> 1/40 second.
>
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Re: Family album - Baby Anat gets tired

[Christine Aguila]

What a cutie!  Those are lovely, Boris.  Cheers, Christine


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From: "Boris Liberman" 

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Subject: Family album - Baby Anat gets tired



Hi!

Just a couple of shots of baby Anat...

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/03/baby-anat-is-tired.html

Boris

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Re: David Bowie, 1983

[Christine Aguila]

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From: "ann sanfedele" 

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Subject: Re: David Bowie, 1983





Christine Aguila wrote:

Well, the one Ann & Marnie picked out as their fav is also my fav.  
Funny that.  Lovely gallery, Charles.  Really enjoyed seeing that.  
Cheers, Christine 


I suppose we will have to find out what Amita thought of it :-)



And Allison and rgb3 :-)


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Family album - Baby Anat gets tired

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

Just a couple of shots of baby Anat...

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/03/baby-anat-is-tired.html

Boris

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Re: Peso: Lips

[Brendan MacRae]

Gotta love that f16...and low ISO...

Good job!

-Brendan



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Subject: Peso: Lips

Brought to you by the letters D and A, and the number 55.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/newer/threelips.html

Techy stuff

K20 ISO 100, f/16 at 4 seconds.

Enjoy

William Robb

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Re: Triangulation Three

[Christine Aguila]

a fun, playful series you have going here, Paul.  Cheers, Christine



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Subject: PESO: Triangulation Three



Two triangles are better than one.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8823351

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Re: Directions of photography?

[Doug Franklin]

John Sessoms wrote:

I think the over-photoshopped images are not a service to the customer, 
but if that's what the customer wants, I guess someone's going to 
provide it.


Won't be me.


I'd be happy to provide it if they pay the vigorish.  I'll do art on my 
own time.


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Re: How to shoot someone silohuetted against a ferris wheel?

[Doug Franklin]

Doug Brewer wrote:

JC OConnell wrote:

aim slightly below your target, stop breathing, and
squeeze, don't pull, the trigger

JC O'Connell
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nicely done.


Front sight ... front sight ...

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Re: DA* 55/1.4 First Picture

[Christine Aguila]

Hi William:  Wow!  Wow!  Wow!  I love your protrait.  I want the lens.  I 
want the lens.  I want the lens.  :-)  Cheers, Christine




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Subject: DA* 55/1.4 First Picture


OK, it isn't much, and you'd never be able to drink him cute, but he's a 
good friend, even with the choice in camera gear.


http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/55-14.html

Technical:
K20 @ ISO 640.
DA*55/1.4 @ f/3.2
1/40 second.

William Robb

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Re: Goin' to Chicago

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Larry:  Sounds like you'll be busy with dance fun.  Let us know if a free 
moment comes up for a drink.  We might be able to meet you some where.  Hope 
all your twirling comes round right :-).  Cheers, Christine




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Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 4:17 PM
Subject: Goin' to Chicago



I just signed up for Blues Shout in Chicago:
http://www.bluesshout.com/2009/  May 1-3



I'm excited. This'll be my first "too far to drive" out of town dance
event in several years. It'll also be my first time (at least in my
memory) going to Chicago. I hope to get there Thursday night and maybe
stay an extra day or two.



If you want to see me while I'm back there, offer me crash space
(local dancers generally provide housing during the event, but it may
be handy to have some before/after), or let me know about "can't miss"
events, that I should schedule around, or if you just want to be kept
up to date about my travel plans, drop me a note.

I expect to be pretty busy from Friday evening through about 6am
Monday morning (about the time the last dance of these weekends tends
to end), though I may have time for lunch or dinner near where the
classes/dances are.

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Re: PESO - Yoga Plus (version 3)

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Frank:  I love the square crop, which would be 3.  Excellent!  Cheers, 
Christine



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Subject: PESO - Yoga Plus (version 3)



Last iteration of this one, I promise, but as Godfriey said he'd like
a square version (well, he didn't actually say that, but the crop he
suggested ended up being square), here's my last try at this one:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/yoga-plus-version-3.html

I'm torn between versions 2 and 3 - can see strong and weak points to
each.  Your thoughts would be most helpful.

BTW, for reference, here's version 2:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/yoga-plus-version-2.html

Thanks!

cheers,
frank


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Re: Directions of photography?

[Scott Loveless]

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> Wasn't HCB an independently wealthy heir to a button manufacturing fortune?
> He was an Artist, but not the starving kind.

Hold your tongue, Bob.  When Saint Henri came back from Africa he was
forced to convalesce for a time and to merely subside on a stipend
from his family.  Can you imagine the horror of having just enough to
scrape together an apartment, food, clothing and a camera?  That poor
man.  He spent his convalescence schlepping that damn camera all over
the place.  Thank the gods he didn't have to work for a living.

Perhaps the button makers define "convalesce" differently.

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Re: Lips

[Ken Waller]

Obviously great light & colors !

Kenneth Waller
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Subject: Peso: Lips



Brought to you by the letters D and A, and the number 55.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/newer/threelips.html

Techy stuff

K20 ISO 100, f/16 at 4 seconds.

Enjoy

William Robb



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Re: Lips

[Bob Sullivan]

Evil picture.  You're the devil's henchman Bill!  Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Christine  Aguila
 wrote:
> WOW!  Love it!  Cheers, Christine
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "William Robb" 
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>> Brought to you by the letters D and A, and the number 55.
>>
>> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/newer/threelips.html
>>
>> Techy stuff
>>
>> K20 ISO 100, f/16 at 4 seconds.
>>
>> Enjoy
>>
>> William Robb
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Re: Directions of photography?

[Bob Sullivan]

Wasn't HCB an independently wealthy heir to a button manufacturing fortune?
He was an Artist, but not the starving kind.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
>> The number of photographers who can shoot what they want and still earn a
>> decent living is miniscule.
>
> Even better. And just one sentence!
>
>> Even HCB had to compromise and call himself a photojournalist.
>
> Horrors!

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Re: PESO - End Days

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 3/23/2009 8:12:01 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
jdavi...@yahoo.com writes:
Striking rendering,  Marnie!

Jack
=
Thanks, Jack!
Marnie :-)

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>  From: eactiv...@aol.com 
> Subject: PESO - End  Days
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 7:04  PM
> Taken today. Trite, but also actually sort of  creepy.
>  
> They are moving in, pushing other birds out, and I see  them
>  around more and 
> more here and there.  
>  
> http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/enddays.htm
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Re: PESO - End Days

[Jack Davis]

Striking rendering, Marnie!

Jack


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> Taken today. Trite, but also actually sort of  creepy.
> 
> They are moving in, pushing other birds out, and I see them
>  around more and 
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Re: GESO - My Daughter's Work

[Bruce Dayton]

Many thanks for all the comments from everyone.  I'll pass these on
to her.  I'm sure she will be pleased.

When she gets home for the summer, I'll be working with her on some
of the technical aspects and post processing - I DON'T need to work
on her creativity - I might ask her to help me with that.

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Monday, March 23, 2009, 7:52:06 PM, you wrote:

JM> On Mar 23, 2009, at 09:29 , Bruce Dayton wrote:

>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/34470...@n03/sets/72157612796672546/show/

JM> I am very impressed by a great number of these shots. I've shot  
JM> ballet, and she's got the eye for the form and timing. She does have  
JM> to work on not letting parts (especially upraised arms) fly out of the
JM> frame. I'm sure there were space constraints to deal with in the  
JM> hallway, so I'm not criticising. Just noticing.  :-)

JM> Keep having fun!

JM> Joseph McAllister
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Re: ouch

[John Francis]

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 08:58:46PM -0400, Doug Brewer wrote:
> you should have been there when I had a 250-600, borrowed from Pentax,  
> drop off a tripod, with my PZ1-p attached, onto an asphalt path at  
> Grandfather Mountain.

Long-term posters here will probably remember my story of when
I almost missed my footing climbing to a photographer's tower.
While I did avoid falling several feet, and I didn't actually
drop anything, my 250-600 swung around and rather neatly knocked
my MZ-S off the back of the lens (well, most of it - it did leave
part of the lens mount still attached to the lens).
Fortunately the 250-600 itself came through unscathed.

Motorsports photography can be tough on equipment.  My A* 300/2.8
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Re: Peso: Lips

[Jack Davis]

Let me fix it. 
Beautifully exposed, strikingly sharp rendering of gorgeous lips.

Jack


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> Subject: Re: Peso: Lips
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Now that's just showing off.
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Re: PESO - End Days

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 3/23/2009 7:55:44 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
bkday...@daytonphoto.com writes:
Kinda cool.  But  it needs lots more birds for full effect, I think.
I do like the silhouette  and the monochrome presentation.

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=
There were a lot more birds. But they flew  off, naturally, as soon as I 
approached. 

Must be a flock of about 10-20  here. Weren't around before, or not many, 
although we've always had black birds  (which have a pretty song). But since 
last 
summer I've seen more and more in  this area, in all of California actually. 
Concerns me a bit, because done some  reading up, and they tend to drive other 
birds out. And evidentially about a  year or two ago Japan got over run with 
them and they became a menace. So I keep  wondering if that is going to happen 
here.

I'll probably try again --  think they'll be around for a while, 
unfortunately.

Marnie  :-(

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Re: PESO - End Days

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Kinda cool.  But it needs lots more birds for full effect, I think.
I do like the silhouette and the monochrome presentation.

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Monday, March 23, 2009, 7:04:16 PM, you wrote:

Eac> Taken today. Trite, but also actually sort of  creepy.

Eac> They are moving in, pushing other birds out, and I see them  around more 
and
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Re: GESO - My Daughter's Work

[Joseph McAllister]

On Mar 23, 2009, at 09:29 , Bruce Dayton wrote:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/34470...@n03/sets/72157612796672546/show/


I am very impressed by a great number of these shots. I've shot  
ballet, and she's got the eye for the form and timing. She does have  
to work on not letting parts (especially upraised arms) fly out of the  
frame. I'm sure there were space constraints to deal with in the  
hallway, so I'm not criticising. Just noticing.  :-)


Keep having fun!

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Re: Peso: Lips

[Subash]

On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:44:01 -0600
"William Robb"  wrote:

> Brought to you by the letters D and A, and the number 55.
> 
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/newer/threelips.html

that's, of course, beautiful...

regards, subash

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Re: ist ds and ds2?

[Adam Maas]

The DS2 has a 2.5" LCD and slightly faster SD write speeds as well as
a few extra options in the firmware. The DS has a 2.0" LCD. The
firmware changes were given to the DS as well in v2.0 of the DS
firmware. So they're essentially identical. The Samsung GX-1S is a DS2
with slightly different firmware as well (Essentially just different
look to the UI and tweaked RAW format).

-Adam

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Re: PESO - Sparrow

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On Mar 23, 2009, at 11:08 , Christian wrote:


Just thought I'd throw this one out there.

http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com/2009/03/olive-sparrow.html



Thanks for sharing. Good bird shot. I have none. But I keep trying.

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Re: PESO - Just Like the Big Kids

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On Mar 23, 2009, at 13:42 , Rick Womer wrote:



This caught my eye on a walk through the neighborhood yesterday  
evening.


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8825372




Nice shot. I like doors... So so on bikes.

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Re: PESO - End Days

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In a message dated 3/23/2009 7:33:35 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
pentax...@mac.com writes:
Part of the "Paranioa"  series, Marnie?
===
Yup.

Kinda creepy. Yep.

But if  you had titled it "Resting Doves" it wouldn't be, don't you  see?
===
Yup. Good pt. Heh.

Nice B&W.  Congrats...
===
Thanks.
They're crows, actually.

Marnie  aka Doe :-)

On Mar 23, 2009, at 19:04 , eactiv...@aol.com  wrote:

> Taken today. Trite, but also actually sort of   creepy.
>
> They are moving in, pushing other birds out, and I see  them  around  
> more and
> more here and  there.
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>  http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/enddays.htm

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Re: PESO - End Days

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Part of the "Paranioa" series, Marnie?

Kinda creepy. Yep.

But if you had titled it "Resting Doves" it wouldn't be, don't you see?

Nice B&W. Congrats...

On Mar 23, 2009, at 19:04 , eactiv...@aol.com wrote:


Taken today. Trite, but also actually sort of  creepy.

They are moving in, pushing other birds out, and I see them  around  
more and

more here and there.

http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/enddays.htm


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Re: PESO - Frogs for Bruce

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 3/23/2009 3:12:45 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
christ...@skofteland.net  writes:
http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com/2009/03/not-birds.html

Enjoy.

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Heh.  Guess you can take frogs too. Like the second.

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Re: and speaking of youtube...

[Stan Halpin]

Thank you!

stan

On Mar 22, 2009, at 8:08 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:

There is a very good profile of James Ravilious on there. He was a  
regional photographer in Devon and his work is exquisite. The show  
is a little less than 30 minutes long.


This was mentioned on The Online Photographer a couple weeks back:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYg8mxvUgJE


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Re: PESO - Narrowboat Under Way

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 3/23/2009 2:59:37 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
rwomer1...@yahoo.com writes:
Thanks to Cotty, I now  know that these are narrowboats, not (ahem) barges.

Yesterday was the  first time I saw one of them actually  moving:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8825501

and

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8825504

I  took only the 50/1.7 on the K10D for this walk; I enjoyed using a prime 
lens for  a change.

Rick


==
They are narrow, aren't they?  Looks like it must be a tight squeeze inside 
(people better get along :-)). Both  good shots.

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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Re: GESO - My Daughter's Work

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 3/23/2009 9:29:59 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
bkday...@daytonphoto.com writes:
Some of you may  remember my older daughters work over the years.  I
have posted a few of  their images from time to time.

My second daughter is in her first year  of college.  For this past
Christmas she received my old *istD along  with a couple of lenses
(her favorite being an A 35-105/3.5).  While out  at college she has
started to really do some shooting.  I present on  gallery that she
did on a weekend with a roommate of hers.  I'm quite  proud of her
because she has figured out most of this on her own.  To  me, she is
showing some real artistic flair - but of course, I am  prejudice.

Anyway, for those who would like to take a look and  comment:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/34470...@n03/sets/72157612796672546/show/

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Nope, she does seem to have  real flair. Right to be proud.

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Re: PESO - Sparrow

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 3/23/2009 3:12:01 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
christ...@skofteland.net writes:
Tit:  
http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com/2009/01/another-from-south-texas.html


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Re: PESO - Sparrow

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 3/23/2009 1:19:40 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
knarftheria...@gmail.com writes:
I think what makes it  for me is the white "foliage" - is that the
actual colour of the tiny leaves  or is it frost?

Whatever it is it's quite unique.

Cute little  bird, too.

All of it very well taken, as  always.

cheers,
frank

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What he said. :-)  Although the bird does appear a little pink. Is he 
supposed to?

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Re: PESO - Sparrow

[Paul Stenquist]

Super detail. A real treat.
Paul
On Mar 23, 2009, at 5:45 PM, Cotty wrote:


On 23/3/09, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed:


Just thought I'd throw this one out there.

http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com/2009/03/olive-sparrow.html


comments always appreciated.




Classic pose, birder. That's just great.


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Re: PESO - Yoga Plus (version 3)

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 3/23/2009 7:58:50 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
knarftheria...@gmail.com writes:
Last iteration of  this one, I promise, but as Godfriey said he'd like
a square version (well,  he didn't actually say that, but the crop he
suggested ended up being  square), here's my last try at this  one:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/yoga-plus-version-3.html

I'm  torn between versions 2 and 3 - can see strong and weak points to
each.   Your thoughts would be most helpful.

BTW, for reference, here's version  2:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/yoga-plus-version-2.html

Thanks!

cheers,
frank


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Oddly  enough, I like version 3. You're right, frank, it is sort of funny. 
Good  one.

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PESO - End Days

[Eactivist]

Taken today. Trite, but also actually sort of  creepy.

They are moving in, pushing other birds out, and I see them  around more and 
more here and there.  

http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/enddays.htm

Comments  welcome.

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Re: How to shoot someone silohuetted against a ferris wheel?

[Doug Brewer]

JC OConnell wrote:

aim slightly below your target, stop breathing, and
squeeze, don't pull, the trigger

JC O'Connell
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nicely done.

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RE: ist ds and ds2?

[JC OConnell]

DS2 Has bigger LCD and is much much harder to find.

JC O'Connell
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Re: DA* 55/1.4 First Picture

[Joseph Tainter]

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/55-14.html

It's a heck of a lens, from everything I am seeing and hearing.

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ist ds and ds2?

[Nick Wright]

What are the differences between those two models? Thanks.

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Re: DA* 55/1.4 First Picture

[Bran Everseeking]

On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:42:31 -0600
William Robb  wrote:

> OK, it isn't much, and you'd never be able to drink him cute, but
> he's a good friend, even with the choice in camera gear.
> 
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/55-14.html
> 
> Technical:
> K20 @ ISO 640.
> DA*55/1.4 @ f/3.2
> 1/40 second.

nice  i like that his glasses are as dirty as mine

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Re: ouch

[Doug Brewer]

you should have been there when I had a 250-600, borrowed from Pentax, 
drop off a tripod, with my PZ1-p attached, onto an asphalt path at 
Grandfather Mountain.


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Re: GESO, Hellyer Park

[Doug Brewer]

frank theriault wrote:

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Doug Brewer  wrote:

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


To do something truly stunning in photography is incredibly  difficult,
far moreso than it seems on the surface.

there. fixed that for ya.


While I generally agree with your amendment to Godfrey's statement,
and I know what you're driving at (okay, I never really know what
you're driving at, 


you either?


but I think I get your drift here), what Godfrey

said hit me at a more visceral level.

I'm not saying I'm very good at any type of photography, but there are
some genres that I feel somewhat comfortable with and I don't think
I'm horrible at those few things.

That being said, I always thought that landscape photography was easy.
 I mean, hell, the trees and mountains and meadows and whatever else
don't move very fast, ya gots lots of time to set up yer tripods and
aim and everything.  What's tough about that?  Photography's all about
The Decisive Moment, right?  What's decisive in a babbling brook?

Then I took my first trip to GFM, got home (in those pre-digital - for
me - days) got my stuff developed and was greatly humbled.  I mean, I
had a few keepers, but I realized that those were more lucky accidents
than anything else.

To be blunt, ~my stuff sucked~!!

My admiration for the photographers on this list that do amazing
landscape work bumped up several notches that spring.

So, I have to agree with Godfrey on this one.  Landscape photography
is incredibly difficult!  At least it's difficult if one wants to
achieve anything half-way decent.


ah, but he said "truly stunning"



cheers,
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Re: Fat Feddy's Cat

[Doug Brewer]

Cotty wrote:

PDML member Chris Mitchell plays in a band called Fat Freddy's Cat and
last night they crammed themselves and their gear into a small pub in
the Oxfordshire countryside, and played to a packed house. 5 shots:




that camera's unusable.

send it to me and I'll see what I can do with it.

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Re: PESO - Sparrow

[Christine Aguila]

Wow, that's lovely Christian.  Really, really nice.  Cheers, Christine



- Original Message - 
From: "Christian" 

To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:08 PM
Subject: PESO - Sparrow



Just thought I'd throw this one out there.

http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com/2009/03/olive-sparrow.html


comments always appreciated.


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Re: PESO - Sparrow

[Christine Aguila]

From: "Christian" 



Cotty wrote:

On 23/3/09, Bruce Dayton, discombobulated, unleashed:


Nice indeed!  Your bird shots are always great.  Now I want to see
what you can do with frogs .


He's not bad with tits.


Tit: 
http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com/2009/01/another-from-south-texas.html


Looks like you've caught the tit just right!



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Re: Lips

[Christine Aguila]

WOW!  Love it!  Cheers, Christine


- Original Message - 
From: "William Robb" 

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Subject: Peso: Lips



Brought to you by the letters D and A, and the number 55.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/newer/threelips.html

Techy stuff

K20 ISO 100, f/16 at 4 seconds.

Enjoy

William Robb

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Re: PESO - Just Like the Big Kids

[Christine Aguila]

Great color & composition, Rick!  Cheers, Christine


- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Womer" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 3:42 PM
Subject: PESO - Just Like the Big Kids




This caught my eye on a walk through the neighborhood yesterday evening.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8825372

(K10D and FA 50/1.7)

Rick






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Re: PESO/GESO

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Sasha:  This might sound weird, but I actually think the BWs are really 
great--maybe the best out of the lot.  I especially like this one 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/3373645563   & I like this one too 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/3374492352.  But that's just me.  Anyway, 
the set is very nice.  Cheers, Christine




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Subject: PESO/GESO



I have spent few ours in Filoli Gardens today.
Unfortunately I can not capture the fragrance with my camera.
Here is a single photo I'd like to show (and have it commented and
criticized violently :)
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/sobol/3373681635/

Here is the whole gallery -- in case you have time and patience.
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/sobol/sets/72157615644395225/

Thanks,
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Re: GESO, Hellyer Park

[Christine Aguila]

- Original Message - 
From: "Doug Brewer" 

To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
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Subject: Re: GESO, Hellyer Park



Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

To do something truly stunning in photography is incredibly  
difficult, far moreso than it seems on the surface.


there. fixed that for ya.



Hear! Hear!  It's all more difficult than it seems!


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RE: How to shoot someone silohuetted against a ferris wheel?

[JC OConnell]

aim slightly below your target, stop breathing, and
squeeze, don't pull, the trigger

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Re: GESO - Watlington Walk

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Rick:  Looks like you had a lovely ramble.  I especially like Black Horse 
Cottage  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8816205.  Very nice. 
Cheers, Christine




- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Womer" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 8:03 AM
Subject: GESO - Watlington Walk




We took a ramble through the countryside around the small Oxfordshire town 
of Watlington yesterday.  It was fairly warm (~10C) and hazy, but 
beautiful.  The hedges are brown and most of the trees are still bare, but 
there are many signs of spring.


http://photo.net/photodb/folder.tcl?folder_id=901814

Rick





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Re: GESO - My Daughter's Work

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Bruce:  You have every right to be proud.  Lauren's GESO is lots of fun. 
I especially like this one: 
http://www.flickr.com:80/photos/34470...@n03/sets/72157612796672546/show/. 
Be sure to tell her big congrats.  Cheers, Christine




- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Dayton" 

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Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 11:29 AM
Subject: GESO - My Daughter's Work



Some of you may remember my older daughters work over the years.  I
have posted a few of their images from time to time.

My second daughter is in her first year of college.  For this past
Christmas she received my old *istD along with a couple of lenses
(her favorite being an A 35-105/3.5).  While out at college she has
started to really do some shooting.  I present on gallery that she
did on a weekend with a roommate of hers.  I'm quite proud of her
because she has figured out most of this on her own.  To me, she is
showing some real artistic flair - but of course, I am prejudice.

Anyway, for those who would like to take a look and comment:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/34470...@n03/sets/72157612796672546/show/

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Re: Peso: Lips

[Larry Colen]

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 03:44:01PM -0600, William Robb wrote:
> Brought to you by the letters D and A, and the number 55.

braggart

> 
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/newer/threelips.html

that picture does not suck.

It must be the lens.


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Re: Peso: Lips

[Cotty]

>> Now that's just showing off.
>>
>> --
>
>Sorry, I was hoping for something more transcendent than that.


Fitting then that I am wearing the 'You Can Never Have To Many Lenses'
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Re: Peso: Lips

[Cotty]

On 23/3/09, ann sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed:

>from Cotty? --
>
>I think that was high praise.. so I dittoed it :)
>He's jealous

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Re: PESO - Narrowboat Under Way

[Cotty]

On 23/3/09, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:

>
>Thanks to Cotty, I now know that these are narrowboats, not (ahem) barges.
>
>Yesterday was the first time I saw one of them actually moving:
>
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8825501

Rick, you could do worse than spending a week on one, not that expensive
either!

What a beautiful way to se the countryside



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Re: How to shoot someone silohuetted against a ferris wheel?

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On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 05:17:37PM -0600, William Robb wrote:
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Larry Colen"
> Subject: Re: How to shoot someone silohuetted against a ferris wheel?
> 
> 
> 
> >If I had access to a naked lady gymnast, I wouldn't be wasting my time
> >photographing ferris wheels.
> >
> 
> Thats not what you told me yesterday.

Sorry to disappoint you, but I meant one that started out as a
woman. At least for the time being, you're stuck with doing cartwheels.



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Re: Directions of photography?

[John Sessoms]

From: frank theriault

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Bruce Dayton  wrote:

> I ran across this exchange recently and it caused me to do some
> thinking:
> http://photo.net/wedding-photography-forum/00SlvT
>
> I have many of the same feelings as this guy presented. ?When I look
> at much of the current work being shown, especially on photo.net
> galleries, I see heavy handed manipulation being the norm and also
> being judged very positively.
>
> Anyway, some interesting fodder for discussion for those who care to
> take a read. ?The thread discussion improves further down than near
> the top -but you do have to read the initial post.
>


Someone in that thread left the following comment:

""It's always about satisfying the client."

I agree with this statement. And it's how to successfully run a
business. It's my approach as well and my banker is smiling every time
I walk in the door and make a deposit.

If you run a business, re-read that statement."

I'm glad I'm an amateur.



The other way to look at it is if you're running a business, you have to 
find clients who will be satisfied by the kind of product you produce.


If you want to sell photographic services free from over reliance on 
Photoshop, look for clients who don't want over reliance on Photoshop.


But, it's a niche market, and perhaps a very competitive one.


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Re: New gear, but now I have a decision to make...

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Mar 23, 2009, at 3:41 PM, Bob W wrote:


They'd be the waterproof ones, I expect.


LOL!!

G

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Re: Fat Feddy's Cat

[Cotty]

On 23/3/09, Chris Mitchell, discombobulated, unleashed:

>And I can relive the fear of playing to an audience including a tall guy
>taking photographs which I knew would be revealing - but atmospheric and the
>best pictures ever of FFC.

You're too kind - I wasn't trying! Trouble is, when I'm trying, I'm
annoying, cos then I'm leaping about and in your face - albeit for only
one number, but it can be frustrating. Only tend to do that at
rehearsals though - most musicians (quite rightly) put the punter first
and don't want lunatics obstructing the audience's view.

We could maybe talk about doing you a video though.

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Re: Directions of photography?

[John Sessoms]

From: Jack Davis

I made such a point on this list a few years back and was promptly
chastised for making such arbitrary judgments, followed by the
comment that it was too late for me in 1843. They may have been
right, for that matter.


I think the telling response was someone's comment that if your clients 
want this stuff, you either provide it or find different clients.


I think the over-photoshopped images are not a service to the customer, 
but if that's what the customer wants, I guess someone's going to 
provide it.


Won't be me.

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Re: How to shoot someone silohuetted against a ferris wheel?

[Bruce Walker]

Bob W wrote:

When I drive home at night I pass a ferris wheel that is all lit up,
and often spinning. Every time I go past I think that I need to use it
in a photo.



[...]
  
Or it might end up in an epic, but educational, fail. 


Maybe if I ask for advice now, my next post on the subject will be
"how can I do this better" rather than "why was it a total failure".




You will need a flash gun, a tripod and a naked lady gymnast with
illuminated extremities.

Using slow sync, 2nd-curtain flash, with a shutter speed of 1/15th,
photograph the naked lady gymnast turning a cartwheel in the opposite sense
of the ferris wheel.
  


Oh. My. Gawd. Does the PDML have insurance coverage for lawsuits 
resulting from posting-induced projectile spitting of coffee into 
computer parts?


'Cause you may need it.  Just sayin'  :-)

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Re: PESO - Sparrow

[Bob Sullivan]

Very nice Christian! Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Christian  wrote:
> Just thought I'd throw this one out there.
>
> http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com/2009/03/olive-sparrow.html
>
>
> comments always appreciated.
>
>
> --
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RE: How to shoot someone silohuetted against a ferris wheel?

[Bob W]

> On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:09:01PM -, Bob W wrote:
> > You will need a flash gun, a tripod and a naked lady gymnast with
> > illuminated extremities.
> > 
> > Using slow sync, 2nd-curtain flash, with a shutter speed of 1/15th,
> > photograph the naked lady gymnast turning a cartwheel in 
> the opposite sense
> > of the ferris wheel.
> 
> If I had access to a naked lady gymnast, I wouldn't be wasting my time
> photographing ferris wheels.
> 

they have other uses? Why wasn't I told?


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Re: How to shoot someone silohuetted against a ferris wheel?

[William Robb]

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Subject: Re: How to shoot someone silohuetted against a ferris wheel?




If I had access to a naked lady gymnast, I wouldn't be wasting my time
photographing ferris wheels.



Thats not what you told me yesterday.
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Re: How to shoot someone silohuetted against a ferris wheel?

[Larry Colen]

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:09:01PM -, Bob W wrote:
> You will need a flash gun, a tripod and a naked lady gymnast with
> illuminated extremities.
> 
> Using slow sync, 2nd-curtain flash, with a shutter speed of 1/15th,
> photograph the naked lady gymnast turning a cartwheel in the opposite sense
> of the ferris wheel.

If I had access to a naked lady gymnast, I wouldn't be wasting my time
photographing ferris wheels.

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RE: How to shoot someone silohuetted against a ferris wheel?

[Bob W]

> 
> When I drive home at night I pass a ferris wheel that is all lit up,
> and often spinning. Every time I go past I think that I need to use it
> in a photo.
> 
[...]
> 
> Or it might end up in an epic, but educational, fail. 
> 
> Maybe if I ask for advice now, my next post on the subject will be
> "how can I do this better" rather than "why was it a total failure".
> 

You will need a flash gun, a tripod and a naked lady gymnast with
illuminated extremities.

Using slow sync, 2nd-curtain flash, with a shutter speed of 1/15th,
photograph the naked lady gymnast turning a cartwheel in the opposite sense
of the ferris wheel.

Bob


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Re: How to shoot someone silohuetted against a ferris wheel?

[Joseph McAllister]

Use dim front lighting and a long exposure. The resulting circle of  
light created by the wheel will provide an unusual backdrop for the  
couple. You work out the details.


On Mar 23, 2009, at 15:14 , Larry Colen wrote:


When I drive home at night I pass a ferris wheel that is all lit up,
and often spinning. Every time I go past I think that I need to use it
in a photo.

Last night I came up with the idea of silohetting a person or couple
against it, either unlit so that they are dark, or possibly with a
flash.

At noon, I was reading light science and magic about photographing
glass and they were talking about having a dark background that has
light around the frame.  It occurred to me that if I could have the
ferris wheel in the background, with someone sillohuetted in front of
it and something like a wineglass with the ferris wheel providing
colored edge lighting, it might make a fun photo.

Or it might end up in an epic, but educational, fail.

Maybe if I ask for advice now, my next post on the subject will be
"how can I do this better" rather than "why was it a total failure".


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Re: PESO - Narrowboat Under Way

[Joseph McAllister]

On Mar 23, 2009, at 14:59 , Rick Womer wrote:

Thanks to Cotty, I now know that these are narrowboats, not (ahem)  
barges.


And yet, you managed to rename them yet again



Yesterday was the first time I saw one of them actually moving:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8825501

and

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8825504

I took only the 50/1.7 on the K10D for this walk; I enjoyed using a  
prime lens for a change.


Nice shots. Looks like fun...

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Re: Directions of photography?

[Doug Franklin]

Mark Roberts wrote:


If this guy were a wedding photography *customer* complaining that
"overphotoshopped" images were all he could get (and he didn't like the
style), he'd have a valid complaint. But complaining that what customers
want isn't what he does??? Tough cookies. He has 3 options:
1. Find clients who appreciate his style
2. Learn how to supply what the market wants
3. Get out of the business


4. Do the stuff he likes on his own dime instead of the customer's.

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Re: Peso: Lips

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On Mar 23, 2009, at 14:44 , William Robb wrote:


Brought to you by the letters D and A, and the number 55.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/newer/threelips.html

Techy stuff

K20 ISO 100, f/16 at 4 seconds.



I see tulips in a whole new light now


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RE: Directions of photography?

[Bob W]

> The whole Pictorialism movement (dating from the 1880's) was 
> all about 
> manipulating images to obtain "painterly" effects. 
> 
[...]

That's a popular fallacy. The early pictorialists were aiming for a
scientific naturalism which used differential focus in imitation of the way
the eye is supposed to work. They were in reaction against the prevailing
style of art photography which really did try to imitate painting. This is
exemplified by the work of photographers such as Henry Peach Robinson and
Oscar Rejlander who produced montages in the style of grand academic
paintings - very much the way Photoshop is used now for so much. P H Emerson
and his followers rejected this in favour of getting out and about in the
real world and photographing work using supposedly naturalistic techniques -
as far as they were concerned they were shooting straight photographs.
Pictorialism degenerated into cliche and was rejected in turn by people like
Steiglitz who also thought they were shooting straight.

There's a fascinating book about P H Emerson called The Old Order And The
New, which accompanied an exhibition. I highly recommend it.
http://www.nationalmediamuseum.org.uk/emerson/

Bob


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Re: How to shoot someone silohuetted against a ferris wheel?

[David Savage]

Go back at night, set up a 30 odd second exposure & have your model
stand very still.

DS

2009/3/24 Larry Colen :
> When I drive home at night I pass a ferris wheel that is all lit up,
> and often spinning. Every time I go past I think that I need to use it
> in a photo.
>
> Last night I came up with the idea of silohetting a person or couple
> against it, either unlit so that they are dark, or possibly with a
> flash.
>
> At noon, I was reading light science and magic about photographing
> glass and they were talking about having a dark background that has
> light around the frame.  It occurred to me that if I could have the
> ferris wheel in the background, with someone sillohuetted in front of
> it and something like a wineglass with the ferris wheel providing
> colored edge lighting, it might make a fun photo.
>
> Or it might end up in an epic, but educational, fail.
>
> Maybe if I ask for advice now, my next post on the subject will be
> "how can I do this better" rather than "why was it a total failure".

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Re: Peso: Lips

[David J Brooks]

Nice pastel colours and lots of detail.

Dave

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 5:44 PM, William Robb  wrote:
> Brought to you by the letters D and A, and the number 55.
>
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/newer/threelips.html
>
> Techy stuff
>
> K20 ISO 100, f/16 at 4 seconds.
>
> Enjoy
>
> William Robb
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Re: missed shots

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On Mar 23, 2009, at 14:00 , frank theriault wrote:

On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Cory Waters  
 wrote:



big snip


Woe is me :)


Oh wh!

BTW, the mirror hanging up on your MX couldn't have anything to do
with the battery as the shutter/mirror is completely mechanical.  The
battery only runs the meter.  All else will work if the meter pooches.

How soon we forget!


Probably slapping that poor mirror up into the goo that is all that's  
left of the mirror slap foam is the cause. Pry it back down with a  
screwdriver and small hammer (nah, better a popsicle stick, clean end)  
and scratch out the old foam and replace. Sheets of foam available  
pretty reasonable.


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RE: New gear, but now I have a decision to make...

[Bob W]

> 
> Lessee: flim cameras still in the cabinet that I can think of ...
> 
> Olympus Pen EE, Pen S, Pen EE-S
> Minox 35GT-E
> Minox IIIS, B, C, EC, CLX
> Rollei 35S, Rollei 35 Classic Platinum
> B&H/Canon Dial 35 II
> Minolta 16, 16-II, 16-Ps
> Contax Tix
> Pentax 645
> Kodak Brownie (1909 vintage)
> 
> I'm sure there are a couple more floating around in there somewhere.
> 

They'd be the waterproof ones, I expect.

Bob


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Re: OT Torched.

[Joseph McAllister]

On Mar 23, 2009, at 13:57 , David J Brooks wrote:


nut Erin is on the mend.:-)



Glad to hear your nutty daughter is doing well, David...

:-)

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Re: A vintage 1947 publication from Cartier-Bresson

[ann sanfedele]

Bob W wrote:



 


On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Bob W  wrote:
   

Call me a sad loser, but I've been tempted to buy this 
 


publication. But I've
   

wrestled with my inner sempstress, and decided to offer it 
 


to the gang
   


instead.

http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=22311028
 


Could he have been referring to something other than photography when
he said this?

"During the work, you have to be sure that you haven't left any holes,
that you've captured everything, because afterwards it will be too
late."

cheers,
frank

   


I think he was feeling crotchety

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Re: New gear, but now I have a decision to make...

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Lessee: flim cameras still in the cabinet that I can think of ...

Olympus Pen EE, Pen S, Pen EE-S
Minox 35GT-E
Minox IIIS, B, C, EC, CLX
Rollei 35S, Rollei 35 Classic Platinum
B&H/Canon Dial 35 II
Minolta 16, 16-II, 16-Ps
Contax Tix
Pentax 645
Kodak Brownie (1909 vintage)

I'm sure there are a couple more floating around in there somewhere.

Godfrey

On Mar 23, 2009, at 11:00 AM, Luiz Felipe wrote:


hm... was under the idea you had no film cameras left...



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Re: Peso: Lips

[ann sanfedele]

William Robb wrote:



- Original Message - From: "Cotty"
Subject: Re: Peso: Lips



Now that's just showing off.
-



Sorry, I was hoping for something more transcendent than that.

William Robb

from Cotty? --  


I think that was high praise.. so I dittoed it :)
He's jealous

ann


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RE: PESO - Just Like the Big Kids

[Bob W]

> This caught my eye on a walk through the neighborhood 
> yesterday evening.
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8825372
> 
> (K10D and FA 50/1.7)
> 
> Rick
> 

Beautiful - your best yet.

Bob


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Re: Peso: Lips

[ann sanfedele]

Cotty wrote:


On 23/3/09, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

 


Brought to you by the letters D and A, and the number 55.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/newer/threelips.html

Techy stuff

K20 ISO 100, f/16 at 4 seconds.

Enjoy
   




Now that's just showing off.

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what he said :-)
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Re: GESO - My Daughter's Work

[Bob Sullivan]

Bruce,
That's a great photo shoot.
I enjoyed the poses and the motion.
But best of all was the joy she captured.
That made me smile!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Bruce Dayton  wrote:
> Some of you may remember my older daughters work over the years.  I
> have posted a few of their images from time to time.
>
> My second daughter is in her first year of college.  For this past
> Christmas she received my old *istD along with a couple of lenses
> (her favorite being an A 35-105/3.5).  While out at college she has
> started to really do some shooting.  I present on gallery that she
> did on a weekend with a roommate of hers.  I'm quite proud of her
> because she has figured out most of this on her own.  To me, she is
> showing some real artistic flair - but of course, I am prejudice.
>
> Anyway, for those who would like to take a look and comment:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/34470...@n03/sets/72157612796672546/show/
>
> --
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> Bruce
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RE: GESO, Hellyer Park

[Bob W]

> 
> My admiration for the photographers on this list that do amazing
> landscape work bumped up several notches that spring.
> 
> So, I have to agree with Godfrey on this one.  Landscape photography
> is incredibly difficult!  At least it's difficult if one wants to
> achieve anything half-way decent.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
>

Keep your eyes open for these, Frank. They make it so much easier:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Disney_MGM_Studios_Photo_Spot.jpg

Bob


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Re: Directions of photography?

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Dayton"

Subject: Directions of photography?



I ran across this exchange recently and it caused me to do some
thinking:
http://photo.net/wedding-photography-forum/00SlvT

I have many of the same feelings as this guy presented.  When I look
at much of the current work being shown, especially on photo.net
galleries, I see heavy handed manipulation being the norm and also
being judged very positively.

Anyway, some interesting fodder for discussion for those who care to
take a read.  The thread discussion improves further down than near
the top -but you do have to read the initial post.



He's certainly fighting an uphill battle.
The advertising industry, which has always been about selling perfection, 
often to the point of blatantly lying, is now all about Photoshop, with the 
original image merely cannon fodder for the graphic arts department.
While I really don't understand why a bride and groom would want to look 
like Becky Carter victims all growed up in their wedding pictures, I also 
understand that this is now the look of wedding photography.
Whether it more savvy customers, or just donks who want to follow the latest 
trend is immaterial.
If you don't want to sell it, don't put it in your port and don't offer it 
as a service.


Photography has always had an after the shutter clicks technical component 
to it, digital photography has expanded the possibilities of what can be 
done, and now photography is more about post processing than it is about 
taking pictures.


The Genie is out of that particular bottle, and it isn't going home anytime 
soon.


William Robb



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Re: PESO - Frogs for Bruce

[Bruce Dayton]

I obviously spoke too quick...but can you do a frog tit?  

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Monday, March 23, 2009, 3:12:15 PM, you wrote:

C> http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com/2009/03/not-birds.html

C> Enjoy.




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RE: A vintage 1947 publication from Cartier-Bresson

[Bob W]

 
> >Call me a sad loser, but I've been tempted to buy this 
> publication. But I've
> >wrestled with my inner sempstress, and decided to offer it 
> to the gang
> >instead.
> >
> >http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=22311028
> 
> You sicko.
> 

You wouldn't say that if I was wearing those gloves.

Bob


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