Re: first K7 Geso

2009-07-21 Thread Sasha Sobol
Christine: thanks!
I do like the combo, yes.
I had something wide in my bag that day but never really wanted to
change the lens.

--Sasha

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Christine  Aguilacagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Oh, man, those look great!  Congrats on your 1st K7 GESO, Sasha.  Looks like
 you're off to a great start.  You're killing me here :-)  Looks like the
 50-135mm  K7 is a great combo.  Oh, you're killing me here :-).  Cheers,
 Christine



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 Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 2:40 AM
 Subject: first K7 Geso


 I love K7!
 K20d was slightly better than K10d, K7 is a huge improvement.
 AF is more accurate, I can use higher ISO, auto white balance is better.
 And it feels better in hand, with or without hand grip.

 Here is the gallery:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/sets/72157621598809103/

 I would probably keep only half of the photos, but I am so excited by
 the camera...
 The lens: Pentax 50-135mm.
 Photos were slightly processed in Lightroom.

 CC  weclome.
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Re: Construction IV

2009-07-21 Thread Joseph McAllister

Nice set of images, Christine. Got those men working hard for you!

Looking forward to the rest of the crane assembly tomorrow!  :-)


On Jul 20, 2009, at 22:32 , Christine Aguila wrote:


I am no longer a free-range chicken.

The tower crane is nearly up, and life on the site is hopping.  I  
have to be escorted everywhere now;  I have to wear safety glasses;  
and I was given ear plugs today. Do you guys prefer 7 or 8?--8 being  
a crop of 7.  Also, other than the obvious--wipe camera down--is  
there any other camera maintenance I should do after shooting  
construction.  The dust is getting really bad, and I'm kind of  
worried about the DA 16-45mm.


http://www.caguila.com/caguila/towercrane/index.html

Comments welcome.


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This thing that you see,
Why in the world,
Would it excite me?
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RE: I'm back :)

2009-07-21 Thread Bob W
Very nice indeed.

Good luck with the move.

Bob

 
 Just spent 10 days on vacation in NC. Very relaxing and tiring at the
 same time (lots of hiking  biking). I'll be going off-list again in
 about a week when we are moving into our new place in Boston. Nut I'll
 be posting occasional PESO's and stuff intermittently until then.
 
 The first day at the cabin last week, I spent the afternoon
 photographing (or trying to photograph) hummingbirds. Here's a shot
 with the FA*300/2.8 and 2x teleconverter:
 
 http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7d904208.htm



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RE: [OT] Alpaca signs model release?

2009-07-21 Thread Bob W

 
 On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Sandy 
 Harrissandyinch...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Anyone got alpaca pictures perchance?
 
 Not exactly:
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/2819471076/
 

Here's one of the smaller subspecies:
http://www.1st4autographs.com/images/al_pacino.jpg

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controlled noise test

2009-07-21 Thread Larry Colen
Here is a more controlled test comparing the two cameras.

Note that my question is not Do K20s perform better than K100s? but
rather Is my K20 performing as well as it should?
Should I expect to see more difference between the K20 and the K100?

Same lighting, same subject, same lens, same f/stop, same tripod
Three lighting situations, bright, medium and dim
semi auto exposure, K100 +0.7 EV to expose to the right

(also with the K100 ISO 800 at 0.7, 0, -1 and -2 to compare pushed 800
with in camera 1600 and 3200)

shot in raw
Post processing in light room
auto tone
white balanced on the grey card in groups

K100, at 1000x800
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157621756137388/

K20 at 1000x800
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157621756062718/

K100, cropped in tight
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157621631845587/

K20 cropped in tight
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157621631845587/


K20 ISO 3200
Exposure:   0.6
Aperture:   f/5.6
Focal Length:   77 mm
Exposure:   0.00
ISO Speed:  3200
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2481/3742194472_2a6494a52f_o.jpg

K100 ISO 3200
Exposure:   0.8
Aperture:   f/5.6
Focal Length:   77 mm
Exposure:   0.00
ISO Speed:  3200
Exposure Bias:  +0.7 EV
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2481/3742194472_2a6494a52f_o.jpg

K100 ISO 800 pushed 1 2/3 stops
Exposure:1
Aperture:f/5.6
Focal Length:   77 mm
Exposure:   +1.90
ISO Speed:  800
Exposure Bias:  -1 EV
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2576/3742195532_35f085de3e.jpg
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Re: I'm back :)

2009-07-21 Thread Boris Liberman
Great shot!

Good luck with your move, Mark.

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:38 AM, Mark Robertsm...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Just spent 10 days on vacation in NC. Very relaxing and tiring at the
 same time (lots of hiking  biking). I'll be going off-list again in
 about a week when we are moving into our new place in Boston. Nut I'll
 be posting occasional PESO's and stuff intermittently until then.

 The first day at the cabin last week, I spent the afternoon
 photographing (or trying to photograph) hummingbirds. Here's a shot
 with the FA*300/2.8 and 2x teleconverter:

 http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7d904208.htm


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Re: controlled noise test

2009-07-21 Thread Joseph McAllister
Hardly a labeled K20 shot in the bunch, Larry. You've duplicated the  
urls on most of them.



On Jul 21, 2009, at 00:21 , Larry Colen wrote:


Here is a more controlled test comparing the two cameras.

Note that my question is not Do K20s perform better than K100s? but
rather Is my K20 performing as well as it should?
Should I expect to see more difference between the K20 and the K100?

Same lighting, same subject, same lens, same f/stop, same tripod
Three lighting situations, bright, medium and dim
semi auto exposure, K100 +0.7 EV to expose to the right

(also with the K100 ISO 800 at 0.7, 0, -1 and -2 to compare pushed 800
with in camera 1600 and 3200)

shot in raw
Post processing in light room
auto tone
white balanced on the grey card in groups

K100, at 1000x800
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157621756137388/

K20 at 1000x800
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157621756062718/

K100, cropped in tight
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157621631845587/

K20 cropped in tight
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157621631845587/


K20 ISO 3200
Exposure:   0.6
Aperture:   f/5.6
Focal Length:   77 mm
Exposure:   0.00
ISO Speed:  3200
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2481/3742194472_2a6494a52f_o.jpg

K100 ISO 3200
Exposure:   0.8
Aperture:   f/5.6
Focal Length:   77 mm
Exposure:   0.00
ISO Speed:  3200
Exposure Bias:  +0.7 EV
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2481/3742194472_2a6494a52f_o.jpg

K100 ISO 800 pushed 1 2/3 stops
Exposure:1
Aperture:f/5.6
Focal Length:   77 mm
Exposure:   +1.90
ISO Speed:  800
Exposure Bias:  -1 EV
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2576/3742195532_35f085de3e.jpg
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Re: controlled noise test

2009-07-21 Thread Larry Colen
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:34:36AM -0700, Joseph McAllister wrote:
 Hardly a labeled K20 shot in the bunch, Larry. You've duplicated the  
 urls on most of them.

Oops, The URLs for the sets which have 18 or 27 shots each were
correct.

And they're all in the collection:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157621749552926/

 
 
 On Jul 21, 2009, at 00:21 , Larry Colen wrote:
 K100, at 1000x800
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157621756137388/
 
 K20 at 1000x800
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157621756062718/
 
 K100, cropped in tight
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157621631845587/
 
 K20 cropped in tight
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157621631845587/
 
 
 K20 ISO 3200
 Exposure:0.6
 Aperture:f/5.6
 Focal Length:77 mm
 Exposure:0.00
 ISO Speed:   3200
 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2481/3742194472_2a6494a52f_o.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3741392561/in/set-72157621631852205/
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2583/3741392561_b9288fdf07_o.jpg

 
 K100 ISO 3200
 Exposure:0.8
 Aperture:f/5.6
 Focal Length:77 mm
 Exposure:0.00
 ISO Speed:   3200
 Exposure Bias:   +0.7 EV
 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2481/3742194472_2a6494a52f_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2481/3742194472_2a6494a52f_o.jpg

 
 K100 ISO 800 pushed 1 2/3 stops
 Exposure:1
 Aperture:f/5.6
 Focal Length:77 mm
 Exposure:+1.90
 ISO Speed:   800
 Exposure Bias:   -1 EV
 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2576/3742195532_35f085de3e.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2576/3742195532_35f085de3e.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2576/3742195532_1e99ae1e6f_o.jpg


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Re: I'm back :)

2009-07-21 Thread AlunFoto
2009/7/21 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com:
 Nut I'll
 be posting occasional PESO's

 Gimme the URL and I'll be pecan.

 You'd better not let me cashew at it.

 All these puns.  It's chestnut possible to keep up.

 Yep. Too much hazel.

 Pea.

Ginger.


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Re: I'm back :)

2009-07-21 Thread AlunFoto
2009/7/21 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com:

 I thought that was, maybe, an embedded message to me.(?)

No...
Maybe there's something I should have recalled, but sorry... nothing
springs to mind there.

You know, Cotty and Boris has frequently referred to myself and my
family as the nutty Norwegians, so I felt obliged to contribute.

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Re: [OT] Alpaca signs model release?

2009-07-21 Thread AlunFoto
Bob,
By the same logic, I assume that guano comes from guanaco?

Jostein

2009/7/21 Bob W p...@web-options.com:


 On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Sandy
 Harrissandyinch...@gmail.com wrote:

  Anyone got alpaca pictures perchance?

 Not exactly:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/2819471076/


 Here's one of the smaller subspecies:
 http://www.1st4autographs.com/images/al_pacino.jpg

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Re: OT: Down the memory hole ...

2009-07-21 Thread David Mann

On Jul 21, 2009, at 9:50 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

I don't think they intended to screw the mini-lab operator, that's  
just an additional unexpected benefit from their point of view.


If a law can be abused, it will be abused.

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A new claim that Capa's falling soldier was a set-up

2009-07-21 Thread Bob W


http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/art/news/shot-down--capas-cl
assic-image-of-war-1754405.html

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Re: K-7 and 77 Ltd

2009-07-21 Thread Tim Øsleby
Maybe this is the lucky combination?

K-7 has 77 segment metering and 77 seals. The number seven is repeated
five times in the name/specks. It is supposed to make it a lucky
camera.

When you combine this with the 77mm you get seven times seven :-)

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2009/7/20 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com:
 Well i know that combo works very well. Nice and sharp photos.

 Wendy Beard has posted a few of her canine photos on Face book and
 they look great.

 No in camera focus adjustments, just point and shoot,

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Re: Construction IV

2009-07-21 Thread mike wilson

 Christine  Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: 
 Also, other 
 than the obvious--wipe camera down--is there any other camera maintenance I 
 should do after shooting construction.  The dust is getting really bad, and 
 I'm kind of worried about the DA 16-45mm.
 
 http://www.caguila.com/caguila/towercrane/index.html

Welcome to the wondeful world of professional photography.  Your equipment is 
now a tax-deductable asset, that can be deemed diposable if necessary for the 
functioning of the contract.

Or you can use fixed-dimension (do not expand/contract when focusing/zooming so 
they don't suck air and dust inside) lenses and be very careful about how/when 
you change them.

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Re: A new claim that Capa's falling soldier was a set-up

2009-07-21 Thread Jaume Lahuerta

Oh, I read the original article in the newspaper 'El Periodico'.
From the pictures that they showed, it seems clear that they have localized 
the exact point where the picture was taken (they compared the mountains in 
the background), and, during those days, there were no combats in the area nor 
reports of injured.
I also heard elsewhere that probably he didn't pretend that it was real when he 
sent the negatives, but, once he saw the effect of the picture published, he 
didn't deny it.

Regards form BCN,

Jaume






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 Asunto: A new claim that Capa's falling soldier was  a set-up
 
 
 
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 assic-image-of-war-1754405.html
 
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Re: I'm back :)

2009-07-21 Thread Cotty


 Just spent 10 days on vacation in NC. Very relaxing and tiring at the
 same time (lots of hiking  biking). I'll be going off-list again in
 about a week when we are moving into our new place in Boston. Nut I'll
 be posting occasional PESO's and stuff intermittently until then.

 The first day at the cabin last week, I spent the afternoon
 photographing (or trying to photograph) hummingbirds. Here's a shot
 with the FA*300/2.8 and 2x teleconverter:

 http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7d904208.htm


Wouldn't load last night for me for some reason, did this morning. WOW.
Superb.


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Re: K20 mojo

2009-07-21 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:01 PM, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 09:41:58PM -0400, paul stenquist wrote:

 This is an apples to oranges comparison. And it will remain that

 Same subjects, same light, same lenses, same place, same ISO.

 regardless of how much processing you do. If you want to compare the
 cameras, do a controlled test. However, I would be surprised if the

 I will indeed need to do a controlled test. Prefereably using another
 K20 also to compare mine with.


Hope you find your setting solutions quicker than I have for my D200.
Three years and still playing with the dials and settings.

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Re: K20 mojo

2009-07-21 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 5:57 AM, David J Brookspentko...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hope you find your setting solutions quicker than I have for my D200.
 Three years and still playing with the dials and settings.

 Dave

Mind you, I normally shoot jpegs, so this could be part of the problem.

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Re: Mini soft box

2009-07-21 Thread David J Brooks
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 I have the Lumina softbox for on-camera flash. It's okay, but the
 Lightsphere provides more diffusion. The softbox is good when you can't
 sacrifice more than a stop or two.

Thats is my other option that i am pondering at the moment.

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Re: Peso Barn on the 9th Line.

2009-07-21 Thread David J Brooks
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 Sheesh. Four seasons in a year, and these Canadians make them all look like 
 winter...

Well, we do have the experience.:-)

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 One of the scenes i am recording in all four seasons.

 Canon G3, minor LR 2 adjustments.

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Re: I'm back :)

2009-07-21 Thread David J Brooks
Thats a really good shot Mark, well done.

Dave

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 Just spent 10 days on vacation in NC. Very relaxing and tiring at the
 same time (lots of hiking  biking). I'll be going off-list again in
 about a week when we are moving into our new place in Boston. Nut I'll
 be posting occasional PESO's and stuff intermittently until then.

 The first day at the cabin last week, I spent the afternoon
 photographing (or trying to photograph) hummingbirds. Here's a shot
 with the FA*300/2.8 and 2x teleconverter:

 http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7d904208.htm


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Re: Construction IV

2009-07-21 Thread David J Brooks
Hi Christine.

Off the two you inquired about, I prefer the tighter crop, #8.

As far as dust, my gear, and I, got our fair share at the horse shows.
What i did, and i'm sure its wrong, was to dampen a face cloth, let it
dry to the point it feels almost dry, and gently rub the out sides of
the camera and lenses. The cloth is just damp enough to pick up the
dust, but dry enough not to get any water on the camera and or lens.

YMMV

Dave

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 1:32 AM, Christine  Aguilacagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Hi Everyone:

 I am no longer a free-range chicken.

 The tower crane is nearly up, and life on the site is hopping.  I have to be
 escorted everywhere now;  I have to wear safety glasses; and I was given ear
 plugs today. Do you guys prefer 7 or 8?--8 being a crop of 7.  Also, other
 than the obvious--wipe camera down--is there any other camera maintenance I
 should do after shooting construction.  The dust is getting really bad, and
 I'm kind of worried about the DA 16-45mm.

 http://www.caguila.com/caguila/towercrane/index.html

 Comments welcome.
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Re: The squeaky wheel.

2009-07-21 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:03 AM, Christine
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 I've never heard the wheels on my K20D squeak.  Cheers, Christine

I must have an older model, mine are made of wood. Other than the
occasional fire, no squeaking..

Dave


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 The rear e-wheel on my K20D squeaks, kind of a rubber on rubber sound. The
 front one doesn't.  Anyone else notice this?  It's probably nothing but it
 is annoying and I'm trying to figure out if I can lubricate it with some
 tuner lube.

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Re: More K-7 AF observations

2009-07-21 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 6:10 PM, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 The latest news, he's ditching Pentax to complain about Canon.  We should
 only be so lucky.

He apparently left the Pentax Forums last month or so. Canon owners
are less forgiving than we are.:-)

I read his blog on occasion. I found it funny that he has a Pentax
blog and uses it to bash the equipment.

Dave

 Thibouille wrote:

 AFAIK most of his so called tests and stories have been based on
 bodies he may have handled but not even own (in most cases).
 Draw your own conclusions...

 On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 6:00 AM, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 Just don't read Ricewhine's measurbator blog on the K7's autofocus
 tracking.
  It will either shake your confidence or infuriate you. I found it by
 accident, and wish I hadn't clicked on the link.  Not because I much care
 what he thinks, but I don't want to up his Google rating.  He's another
 blogger who does more harm than good, much like Kenny Boy, though I
 believe
 he actually tests, if you can call it that, the equipment he savages.

 paul stenquist wrote:


 Good to know. It's what I suspected based on use, but it's nice to know
 that my suspicions aren't just wishful thinking. Thanks for taking the
 time
 to test.
 Paul
 On Jul 18, 2009, at 7:09 AM, AlunFoto wrote:



 Better quantified this time.

 Yesterday I took stance on a bridge above a highway, and photographed
 large trucks coming towards me. The speed limit at this place is 100
 km/h, and on top of a gentle slope. I shot series of each truck, and
 have tallied the percentage of out-of-focus shots from each series.
 The cameras were set to:

 - SR on for shots with DA*300, shot freehand
 - SR off for shots with FA*600, shot from tripod
 - AF-C, multipoint
 - ISO 800
 - Av-mode (aperture set to f/8)
 - DNG file format.

 Focus was judged by 100% view in Adobe Bridge CS4 without rawfile
 conversion. I took a conservative attitude, judging anything that
 wasn't perfectly sharp on the car front as mis-focused. I typically
 looked at details in the grille (hope it's the right word?) or the
 number plate.

 Between each series I allowed the camera to save all files before
 commencing a new series, to make sure camera speed was not held back
 by a full buffer.

 K20D + DA*300/4: 13% mis-focused, averaged over 9 series
 K-7 + DA*300/4: 7% mis-focused, averaged over 7 series

 K20D + FA*600/4: 43% mis-focused, averaged over 7 series
 K-7 + FA*600/4: 25% mis-focused, averaged over 11 series

 Each series held between 10 and 19 shots.

 Both lenses are focus-calibrated with the K20D, but not with the K-7.
 I therefore suspect that the K-7 results could be somewhat improved.

 There are bound to be many unchecked sources of random variation here.
 One is whether the trucks had cargo or not. If empty, they bounce a
 lot more and could introduce motion blur. I suspect the 600mm shots to
 be affected by this. With the small number of series, I can't rule out
 that the two cameras have got an uneven share of empty trucks. However
 I did the same experiment, at the same place, five days ago with the
 K20D only, and the results from yesterday seems consistent with my
 previous results.

 So all in all, the real-life numbers pretty much mirrors the nominal
 doubling of the frame rate. Not the subjective feeling that the K-7 is
 _more_ than twice as fast. Not in this situation anyway. However this
 test, tracking approaching objects, is very different from panning a
 bird flying from one side to the other.

 Jostein

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Kodak DC 25 camera and files.

2009-07-21 Thread David J Brooks
I used to own this digital camera, picked it up in 1997.

I have an older iomega zip drive, 100meg, that i have the dc25 files stored on.

I have tried to find the software via a google search, but it seems unavailable.

I have a few photos of my parents at their 50th wedding lunch i would
like to try and get off the disk.

Whats the chances any one on the list used the camera and has the
software.??? None i suppose.

I cannot remember if the zip drive(plugs into the printer port)
required software or not.

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Re: K-7 and 77 Ltd

2009-07-21 Thread AlunFoto
Rumor had it, for a while, that it was originally named K-9, but
renamed after protest from the English speaking distributors. :-)

After seeing Wendy's shots I could believe that rumor...

Jostein

2009/7/21 Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com:
 Maybe this is the lucky combination?

 K-7 has 77 segment metering and 77 seals. The number seven is repeated
 five times in the name/specks. It is supposed to make it a lucky
 camera.

 When you combine this with the 77mm you get seven times seven :-)

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 2009/7/20 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com:
 Well i know that combo works very well. Nice and sharp photos.

 Wendy Beard has posted a few of her canine photos on Face book and
 they look great.

 No in camera focus adjustments, just point and shoot,

 Getting impressed here.:-)

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Re: K20 mojo

2009-07-21 Thread Thibouille
Note that 1.02 is the latest for k100D  (SDHC compatibility Update
only but who knows with Pentax).

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 On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:35:45PM -0400, P. J. Alling wrote:
 Stupid question:  Are you running the latest firmware?

 There are no stupid questions, only stupid people.

 I'm running 1.03 on the K20D and 1.00 on the K100.


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Re: controlled noise test

2009-07-21 Thread paul stenquist
Why would you add +.7 exposure comp on the K100 but not  on the K20?  
More exposure will reduce the noise on both cameras. Again, it's  
apples to oranges.

Paul
On Jul 21, 2009, at 3:42 AM, Larry Colen wrote:


On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:34:36AM -0700, Joseph McAllister wrote:

Hardly a labeled K20 shot in the bunch, Larry. You've duplicated the
urls on most of them.


Oops, The URLs for the sets which have 18 or 27 shots each were
correct.

And they're all in the collection:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157621749552926/




On Jul 21, 2009, at 00:21 , Larry Colen wrote:

K100, at 1000x800
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157621756137388/

K20 at 1000x800
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157621756062718/

K100, cropped in tight
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157621631845587/

K20 cropped in tight
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157621631845587/


K20 ISO 3200
Exposure:   0.6
Aperture:   f/5.6
Focal Length:   77 mm
Exposure:   0.00
ISO Speed:  3200
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2481/3742194472_2a6494a52f_o.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3741392561/in/set-72157621631852205/
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2583/3741392561_b9288fdf07_o.jpg



K100 ISO 3200
Exposure:   0.8
Aperture:   f/5.6
Focal Length:   77 mm
Exposure:   0.00
ISO Speed:  3200
Exposure Bias:  +0.7 EV
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2481/3742194472_2a6494a52f_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2481/3742194472_2a6494a52f_o.jpg



K100 ISO 800 pushed 1 2/3 stops
Exposure:1
Aperture:f/5.6
Focal Length:   77 mm
Exposure:   +1.90
ISO Speed:  800
Exposure Bias:  -1 EV
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2576/3742195532_35f085de3e.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2576/3742195532_35f085de3e.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2576/3742195532_1e99ae1e6f_o.jpg



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Re: Construction IV

2009-07-21 Thread Jack Davis

My that's a crisp array of shots. Watching those workers does, however, make 
the back of my knees feel funny.
Always find your work enjoyable, Christine.

Jack

--- On Mon, 7/20/09, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:

 From: Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net
 Subject: Construction IV
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, July 20, 2009, 10:32 PM
 Hi Everyone:
 
 I am no longer a free-range chicken.
 
 The tower crane is nearly up, and life on the site is
 hopping.  I have to be escorted everywhere now;  I
 have to wear safety glasses; and I was given ear plugs
 today. Do you guys prefer 7 or 8?--8 being a crop of
 7.  Also, other than the obvious--wipe camera down--is
 there any other camera maintenance I should do after
 shooting construction.  The dust is getting really bad,
 and I'm kind of worried about the DA 16-45mm.
 
 http://www.caguila.com/caguila/towercrane/index.html
 
 Comments welcome.
 Cheers, Christine 
 
 
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Re: More E-P1 shots

2009-07-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Desjardins, Stevedesjard...@wlu.edu wrote:

 You know, there's only so much to shoot on the way back to  the lab.  So, 
 here is my dog Toby and some tiger lilies:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/40620...@n04/

Quite nice! :-)

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Re: I'm back :)

2009-07-21 Thread Tim Øsleby
That's one fine hummer :-)
I appreciate the triangles in the composition.

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 Just spent 10 days on vacation in NC. Very relaxing and tiring at the
 same time (lots of hiking  biking). I'll be going off-list again in
 about a week when we are moving into our new place in Boston. Nut I'll
 be posting occasional PESO's and stuff intermittently until then.

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 photographing (or trying to photograph) hummingbirds. Here's a shot
 with the FA*300/2.8 and 2x teleconverter:

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Re: Kodak DC 25 camera and files.

2009-07-21 Thread Bruce Walker

David J Brooks wrote:

I used to own this digital camera, picked it up in 1997.

I have an older iomega zip drive, 100meg, that i have the dc25 files stored on.

I have tried to find the software via a google search, but it seems unavailable.

I have a few photos of my parents at their 50th wedding lunch i would
like to try and get off the disk.

Whats the chances any one on the list used the camera and has the
software.??? None i suppose.

I cannot remember if the zip drive(plugs into the printer port)
required software or not.

Dave



Dave, the parallel port Zip drives required a driver for Windows. 
There's also an alternate cable that attaches those Zip drives to older 
Macs via the Mac SCSI port connector.


This may be what you need for Windows ...

http://www.softwarepatch.com/utilities/iomega-zip.html

However, what format are the images saved in?  Possibly not JPEG, but 
perhaps Photo-CD?



I had a laugh reading the DC25 manual PDF: http://is.gd/1Gldq

We've come along nicely since the DC25: 5 seconds to produce a 320x240 
pixel image. Took a 2 *megabyte* CF card.  Yowza!


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RE: More E-P1 shots

2009-07-21 Thread Desjardins, Steve
No, he's half lab-half Australian shepherd.  I went to Wikipedia, though, and 
boy he does look like that first picture.

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From: Desjardins, Steve
Subject: More E-P1 shots



 You know, there's only so much to shoot on the way back to  the lab.  So, 
 here is my dog Toby and some tiger lilies:

Hey Steve, Toby isn't a Catahoula is he?

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Re: Kodak DC 25 camera and files.

2009-07-21 Thread mike wilson

 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: 
 I used to own this digital camera, picked it up in 1997.
 
 I have an older iomega zip drive, 100meg, that i have the dc25 files stored 
 on.
 
 I have tried to find the software via a google search, but it seems 
 unavailable.
 
 I have a few photos of my parents at their 50th wedding lunch i would
 like to try and get off the disk.
 
 Whats the chances any one on the list used the camera and has the
 software.??? None i suppose.
 
 I cannot remember if the zip drive(plugs into the printer port)
 required software or not.

Conversion software here:
http://www.imageconverterplus.de/news/kodak_dc_25_261.html

here:
http://www.rickk.com/dc25/

or here:
http://members.driverguide.com/driver/detail.php?driverid=114129

zip drivers here (you will have to choose your OS if the link works properly, 
otherwise  Support tab product type Size and port OS from the home page)
https://iomega-na-en.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/iomega_na_en.cfg/php/enduser/cci/platform.php?prod_lvl1=1prod_lvl2=17p_prods=1,17p_pv=2.17p_sid=h-BlQnDj


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Re: PESO: Bent Tree

2009-07-21 Thread Tim Øsleby
Old post and old PESO, but it should not stand uncommented.
Lovely colors in this one Daniel :-)
Some good lines there too.

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2009/6/26 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com:
 Another image I found recently while going over old scans.

 I passed this tree every day on my way to and from my office in
 Trenton for 3 years, and it always drew my attention.  Finally,
 decades later, I dragged out my 6x7 to capture it on film.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9392612size=md

 Comments and criticism welcome.

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Re: Construction IV

2009-07-21 Thread Igor Roshchin


Christine,

Interesting two sets of photos (I just saw both III and IV).

You have many months of construction ahead ...
If you will be involved in the technical interaction with the construction
company, that would be a material for horor stories (even though
most unsuspecting readers would think it is fiction).

Our new building is almost completed:
http://matrix.physics.tamu.edu/recday/phpslideshow.php
(these photos are not mine - it's a video cam:
http://morpheus.physics.tamu.edu/cgi-bin/guestimage.html )

I had played just a little bit - last year, and it resulted in this:
http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Mixed-2009/Panorama-3593-3602-800s.jpg
(beware, it's ~1 MB file) 
It was not a well finished panorama, so I never posted it here...

Igor



On Jul 20, 2009, at 22:32 , Christine Aguila wrote:

 I am no longer a free-range chicken.

 The tower crane is nearly up, and life on the site is hopping.  I  
 have to be escorted everywhere now;  I have to wear safety glasses;  
 and I was given ear plugs today. Do you guys prefer 7 or 8?--8 being  
 a crop of 7.  Also, other than the obvious--wipe camera down--is  
 there any other camera maintenance I should do after shooting  
 construction.  The dust is getting really bad, and I'm kind of  
 worried about the DA 16-45mm.

 http://www.caguila.com/caguila/towercrane/index.html


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Re: Construction IV

2009-07-21 Thread Bruce Walker

Christine Aguila wrote:

The dust is 
getting really bad, and I'm kind of worried about the DA 16-45mm.


http://www.caguila.com/caguila/towercrane/index.html

Comments welcome.
Cheers, Christine


Perfectly good reason to get a DA* 16-50 then -- don't fight the LBA. 
:-)  That business about the lens extensions pulling in fine dust may 
mean more trouble for the camera insides as much as the lens. I don't 
know if the 16-50 is any better in that regard than the 16-45. Does 
weather sealing imply fine-dust sealing?


Nice shots!

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Re: Mini soft box

2009-07-21 Thread Brian Walters
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 06:06 -0400, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 9:28 PM, paul stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net
 wrote:
  I have the Lumina softbox for on-camera flash. It's okay, but the
  Lightsphere provides more diffusion. The softbox is good when you can't
  sacrifice more than a stop or two.
 
 Thats is my other option that i am pondering at the moment.
 


After looking at the links Joe posted, I just ordered one of these:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=160347997123ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:AU:1123

At that price it doesn't matter much if it's crap


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PESO 2009 - 120 - GDG

2009-07-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
From this past weekend's photowalk ... I'm working the photowalk set  
from Saturday in color at present, but i rendered this one to  
monochrome too. It does something quite different in BW. I'm curious  
to hear your thoughts.


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2462/3742053605_54c1b3d58f_o.jpg
120 - Hand Dance - Niles Canyon 2009
Panasonic G1 + Cosmicar 12.5mm f/1.4
ISO 100 @ f/2 @ 1/100 sec
  flickr page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/3742053605/

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GESO - Flying Chiller (inspired by Christine)

2009-07-21 Thread Igor Roshchin

This post (not photos) is inspired by Christine's Construction series.

3 years ago I purchased a large scientific instrument 
(X-ray diffractometer) that came with a large water chiller installed. 
The chiller was supposed to be installed inside the building core,
behind the wall from the room for th system.
The company provided the specs for it, and we checked that it would make
it through a narrow passage to the core.
Close to delivery, it turned out that they provided the specs for
a wrong model of the chiller. The chiller we were to receive
wouldn't make it through.

That core used to have the second, much wider, entrance, but because
of the construction of the building addition, access to that entrance
was removed and the floor around that door was removed - that
was the wall where the new part of the building would be attached.

So, the solution was to lift the chiller up and into the former door
hole using the construction crane. Well, the story was captured
in this gallery:
http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/FlyingChiller/
The last two shots show the X-ray diffractometer: the grey-colored 
enclosure with glass doors and the grey-colored generator next to it.

I don't think that this gallery carries much of artistic value, 
it's mostly a technical photo-reportage.
All shots were preserved including the sub-optimum ones - for 
completeness of the story.

... but all and any comments are welcome.

Igor



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RE: More E-P1 shots

2009-07-21 Thread Desjardins, Steve
I was curious what you would think, Godfrey, being an Olympian yourself.;-)  
The camera has it's quirks, but I'm really impressed with image quality.  
Coupling this with the size, you have an excellent grab camera.  My only 
question is how much better a EVF camera like the Lumix would be in daily 
operation.

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On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Desjardins, Stevedesjard...@wlu.edu wrote:

 You know, there's only so much to shoot on the way back to  the lab.  So, 
 here is my dog Toby and some tiger lilies:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/40620...@n04/

Quite nice! :-)

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Re: PESO 2009 - 120 - GDG

2009-07-21 Thread Igor Roshchin

Interesting catch.
I would call it show of hands or vote of hands.

I would expect that BW version would look more contrasty, which
make change the look. I would be curious to see it that way... 
I'd probably use softer BW conversion.

Igor

Tue Jul 21 08:34:40 CDT 2009
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 From this past weekend's photowalk ... I'm working the photowalk set  
from Saturday in color at present, but i rendered this one to  
monochrome too. It does something quite different in BW. I'm curious  
to hear your thoughts.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2462/3742053605_54c1b3d58f_o.jpg
120 - Hand Dance - Niles Canyon 2009
Panasonic G1 + Cosmicar 12.5mm f/1.4
ISO 100 @ f/2 @ 1/100 sec
   flickr page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/3742053605/

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Re: PESO Emergent

2009-07-21 Thread Bruce Walker

Thanks for looking, Christine.

-bmw

Christine Aguila wrote:

Nice, very nice!  cheers, Christine


- Original Message - From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com
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Subject: PESO Emergent


Becoming acquainted with less than 2 week old enablement: DA* 55mm 
F1.4 ...


http://is.gd/1FluZ

Exp 1/100, f/1.4, ISO 200, 540FGZ flash inside Westcott 18 softbox; 
PP in CS4.


Comments welcome!

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Re: PESO Emergent

2009-07-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Very nice!

I've been using the mini softbox for a bit now, need a larger one too.
I also use a round foldup diffuser, tape it to the flash in a big
curve occasionally. Anything to spread out and sften the light.

On Monday, July 20, 2009, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Becoming acquainted with less than 2 week old enablement: DA* 55mm F1.4 ...

 http://is.gd/1FluZ

 Exp 1/100, f/1.4, ISO 200, 540FGZ flash inside Westcott 18 softbox; PP in 
 CS4.

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Back, with new K7

2009-07-21 Thread Jan van Wijk
Hi all,

After being unsubscribed for almost a year due to too much traffic, I have 
been lurking for the last couple of weeks, anticipating K7 discussions here :-)

Just received mine today, replacing the K10D.
Battery is charging (4 more hours to go).

Looks great, lots of reading to do ...

Regards, Jan van Wijk

PS:

K7 has dropped from list price 1299 to 1029 Euros 
here in the Netherlands (my local shop).

Not a bad price I think ...
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Re: GESO - Flying Chiller (inspired by Christine)

2009-07-21 Thread Bob Sullivan
Igor,
Interesting series of photos.
How much did the box weigh?
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Igor Roshchins...@komkon.org wrote:

 This post (not photos) is inspired by Christine's Construction series.

 3 years ago I purchased a large scientific instrument
 (X-ray diffractometer) that came with a large water chiller installed.
 The chiller was supposed to be installed inside the building core,
 behind the wall from the room for th system.
 The company provided the specs for it, and we checked that it would make
 it through a narrow passage to the core.
 Close to delivery, it turned out that they provided the specs for
 a wrong model of the chiller. The chiller we were to receive
 wouldn't make it through.

 That core used to have the second, much wider, entrance, but because
 of the construction of the building addition, access to that entrance
 was removed and the floor around that door was removed - that
 was the wall where the new part of the building would be attached.

 So, the solution was to lift the chiller up and into the former door
 hole using the construction crane. Well, the story was captured
 in this gallery:
 http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/FlyingChiller/
 The last two shots show the X-ray diffractometer: the grey-colored
 enclosure with glass doors and the grey-colored generator next to it.

 I don't think that this gallery carries much of artistic value,
 it's mostly a technical photo-reportage.
 All shots were preserved including the sub-optimum ones - for
 completeness of the story.

 ... but all and any comments are welcome.

 Igor



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Re: K20 mojo

2009-07-21 Thread P. J. Alling

That's the latest.  It's probably not a firmware problem.

Larry Colen wrote:

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:35:45PM -0400, P. J. Alling wrote:
  

Stupid question:  Are you running the latest firmware?



There are no stupid questions, only stupid people.

I'm running 1.03 on the K20D and 1.00 on the K100.


  



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Re: controlled noise test

2009-07-21 Thread Larry Colen
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 07:29:29AM -0400, paul stenquist wrote:

 Why would you add +.7 exposure comp on the K100 but not  on the K20?  

Because without the exposure compensation the K100 was
underexposing. At nominal exposure, the white in the background on the
K20 was on the verge of clipping, with the K100, I had to tweak the EV
to expose to the right.

I was getting both cameras to expose correctly so that it would not be
an apples to oranges comparison.

 More exposure will reduce the noise on both cameras. Again, it's  
 apples to oranges.

The problem is that what I really need is to compare my K20 with
another K20. I'm trying to find out if my K20 is working properly, and
my understanding is that it is supposed to be so much better than the
K100, that there shouldn't be any question. I should not be able to
make the K100 work even close to as well as the K20.

But, perhaps I spent $800 for far less improvement in image quality
than I expected.

 Paul
 On Jul 21, 2009, at 3:42 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
 
 On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:34:36AM -0700, Joseph McAllister wrote:
 Hardly a labeled K20 shot in the bunch, Larry. You've duplicated the
 urls on most of them.
 
 Oops, The URLs for the sets which have 18 or 27 shots each were
 correct.
 
 And they're all in the collection:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157621749552926/
 
 
 
 On Jul 21, 2009, at 00:21 , Larry Colen wrote:
 K100, at 1000x800
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157621756137388/
 
 K20 at 1000x800
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157621756062718/
 
 K100, cropped in tight
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157621631845587/
 
 K20 cropped in tight
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157621631845587/
 
 
 K20 ISO 3200
 Exposure:  0.6
 Aperture:  f/5.6
 Focal Length:  77 mm
 Exposure:  0.00
 ISO Speed: 3200
 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2481/3742194472_2a6494a52f_o.jpg
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3741392561/in/set-72157621631852205/
 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2583/3741392561_b9288fdf07_o.jpg
 
 
 K100 ISO 3200
 Exposure:  0.8
 Aperture:  f/5.6
 Focal Length:  77 mm
 Exposure:  0.00
 ISO Speed: 3200
 Exposure Bias: +0.7 EV
 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2481/3742194472_2a6494a52f_o.jpg
 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2481/3742194472_2a6494a52f_o.jpg
 
 
 K100 ISO 800 pushed 1 2/3 stops
 Exposure:1
 Aperture:f/5.6
 Focal Length:  77 mm
 Exposure:  +1.90
 ISO Speed: 800
 Exposure Bias: -1 EV
 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2576/3742195532_35f085de3e.jpg
 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2576/3742195532_35f085de3e.jpg
 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2576/3742195532_1e99ae1e6f_o.jpg
 
 
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Re: GESO - Flying Chiller (inspired by Christine)

2009-07-21 Thread Igor Roshchin

Bob,

Thanks. 
About 1000 lbs.
According to the specs, the chiller was 900 lbs (408 kg) plus the 
wooden crate.

Igor

Tue Jul 21 10:07:52 CDT 2009
Bob Sullivan wrote:

 Igor,
 Interesting series of photos.
 How much did the box weigh?
 Regards,  Bob S.


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Re: GESO - Flying Chiller (inspired by Christine)

2009-07-21 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Igor:  That was fun to see.  I suspect you were hopping mad when you 
realized you were given the wrong specs!I was in Athens, Greece for a 
month in 1989 and saw a piano delivered to a residence the same way as your 
chiller.  Created quite a stir and a huge crowd of onlookers.


Thanks for sharing!  Cheers, Christine


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To: PDML@pdml.net
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Subject: GESO - Flying Chiller (inspired by Christine)




This post (not photos) is inspired by Christine's Construction series.

3 years ago I purchased a large scientific instrument
(X-ray diffractometer) that came with a large water chiller installed.
The chiller was supposed to be installed inside the building core,
behind the wall from the room for th system.
The company provided the specs for it, and we checked that it would make
it through a narrow passage to the core.
Close to delivery, it turned out that they provided the specs for
a wrong model of the chiller. The chiller we were to receive
wouldn't make it through.

That core used to have the second, much wider, entrance, but because
of the construction of the building addition, access to that entrance
was removed and the floor around that door was removed - that
was the wall where the new part of the building would be attached.

So, the solution was to lift the chiller up and into the former door
hole using the construction crane. Well, the story was captured
in this gallery:
http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/FlyingChiller/
The last two shots show the X-ray diffractometer: the grey-colored
enclosure with glass doors and the grey-colored generator next to it.

I don't think that this gallery carries much of artistic value,
it's mostly a technical photo-reportage.
All shots were preserved including the sub-optimum ones - for
completeness of the story.

... but all and any comments are welcome.

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Re: Mini soft box

2009-07-21 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Brian Walterssupera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:


 After looking at the links Joe posted, I just ordered one of these:

 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=160347997123ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:AU:1123

 At that price it doesn't matter much if it's crap

Thats true.:-) I don't see what the postage to Canada is. I have sent
an email, and if its not to much, I'll order one to.
Liz can't get to upset for $5.00 US.:-)

I think.

Dave


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Re: controlled noise test

2009-07-21 Thread Larry Colen
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 07:29:29AM -0400, paul stenquist wrote:
 Why would you add +.7 exposure comp on the K100 but not  on the K20?  
 More exposure will reduce the noise on both cameras. Again, it's  
 apples to oranges.
Using the histograms to correct my exposures, as I did, these are what
I got. You will note that in all of them, when I did auto tone in
lightroom, it did not adjust the exposure, though the recovery values
changed a bit.

So, the K20 does seem to be shooting about 2/3 stop faster than the
K100 for about the same level of noise, so my K20 gains me maybe 2/3
stop over the K100 in performance.

K100   LR exposure correction

 200  13 sec   0
 400   8   0
 800   4   0
1600   1.6 0
3200   0.8 0

K20

 200  10 sec0
 400   50
 800   20
1600   1.3  0
3200   0.6  0


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Re: Kodak DC 25 camera and files.

2009-07-21 Thread David J Brooks
I did some googling but did not find those links. Maybe i used bad words.:-)

Thanks Mike

Dave

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 Conversion software here:
 http://www.imageconverterplus.de/news/kodak_dc_25_261.html

 here:
 http://www.rickk.com/dc25/

 or here:
 http://members.driverguide.com/driver/detail.php?driverid=114129

 zip drivers here (you will have to choose your OS if the link works properly, 
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Re: Kodak DC 25 camera and files.

2009-07-21 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Bruce Walkerbruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:


 Dave, the parallel port Zip drives required a driver for Windows. There's
 also an alternate cable that attaches those Zip drives to older Macs via the
 Mac SCSI port connector.

I found the cables. Whoo hooo.


 This may be what you need for Windows ...

 http://www.softwarepatch.com/utilities/iomega-zip.html

 However, what format are the images saved in?  Possibly not JPEG, but
 perhaps Photo-CD?

I remember the extension was a Kodak file of some sort. After download
you could save them as a jpeg.



 I had a laugh reading the DC25 manual PDF: http://is.gd/1Gldq

 We've come along nicely since the DC25: 5 seconds to produce a 320x240 pixel
 image. Took a 2 *megabyte* CF card.  Yowza!

Ya, but that two meg card cost me over $200 Canadian to buy at the time.
I remember saying at the time, 2 meg, i won't need any more than that.

Dave

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Re: controlled noise test

2009-07-21 Thread Bruce Dayton
For what it is worth, your expectation may be a little high for the
K20.  Where did you come up with this expectation.  Generally
speaking as the photosites get smaller, noise gets stronger.  So
there has to be a way to compensate for it.  It is my understanding
that manufacturing has improved so that the photosites are too much
smaller than the older 6mp sensors.

My experience has been starting with the *IstD 6mp body.  Then
getting a K10D 10mp body.  The K10D had better image quality until
you boost the ISO too far and amplify the noise.  So up to 800 iso it
was better than the *IstD - but beyond that, the *istD is better.
Now I have a K20D - the image quality is better than the K10D and the
high iso images are improved - better than the K10D, but not
significantly better than the *istD - marginally better, perhaps.
This is still quite an accomplishment because you are comparing a
larger photosite 6mp sensor to a smaller photosite 14.6 sensor.

What I am getting at here is that your expectation may be off.  How
do the normal images look?  Those not boosted to high iso?

The best thing to do is compare to another K20.  I'm in Sacramento so
not too convenient.  I do work in SF every Thursday.

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Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 8:11:42 AM, you wrote:

LC On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 07:29:29AM -0400, paul stenquist wrote:

 Why would you add +.7 exposure comp on the K100 but not  on the K20?  

LC Because without the exposure compensation the K100 was
LC underexposing. At nominal exposure, the white in the background on the
LC K20 was on the verge of clipping, with the K100, I had to tweak the EV
LC to expose to the right.

LC I was getting both cameras to expose correctly so that it would not be
LC an apples to oranges comparison.

 More exposure will reduce the noise on both cameras. Again, it's  
 apples to oranges.

LC The problem is that what I really need is to compare my K20 with
LC another K20. I'm trying to find out if my K20 is working properly, and
LC my understanding is that it is supposed to be so much better than the
LC K100, that there shouldn't be any question. I should not be able to
LC make the K100 work even close to as well as the K20.

LC But, perhaps I spent $800 for far less improvement in image quality
LC than I expected.

 Paul
 On Jul 21, 2009, at 3:42 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
 
 On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:34:36AM -0700, Joseph McAllister wrote:
 Hardly a labeled K20 shot in the bunch, Larry. You've duplicated the
 urls on most of them.
 
 Oops, The URLs for the sets which have 18 or 27 shots each were
 correct.
 
 And they're all in the collection:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157621749552926/
 
 
 
 On Jul 21, 2009, at 00:21 , Larry Colen wrote:
 K100, at 1000x800
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157621756137388/
 
 K20 at 1000x800
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157621756062718/
 
 K100, cropped in tight
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157621631845587/
 
 K20 cropped in tight
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157621631845587/
 
 
 K20 ISO 3200
 Exposure:  0.6
 Aperture:  f/5.6
 Focal Length:  77 mm
 Exposure:  0.00
 ISO Speed: 3200
 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2481/3742194472_2a6494a52f_o.jpg
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3741392561/in/set-72157621631852205/
 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2583/3741392561_b9288fdf07_o.jpg
 
 
 K100 ISO 3200
 Exposure:  0.8
 Aperture:  f/5.6
 Focal Length:  77 mm
 Exposure:  0.00
 ISO Speed: 3200
 Exposure Bias: +0.7 EV
 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2481/3742194472_2a6494a52f_o.jpg
 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2481/3742194472_2a6494a52f_o.jpg
 
 
 K100 ISO 800 pushed 1 2/3 stops
 Exposure:1
 Aperture:f/5.6
 Focal Length:  77 mm
 Exposure:  +1.90
 ISO Speed: 800
 Exposure Bias: -1 EV
 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2576/3742195532_35f085de3e.jpg
 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2576/3742195532_35f085de3e.jpg
 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2576/3742195532_1e99ae1e6f_o.jpg
 
 
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Re: I'm back :)

2009-07-21 Thread Bruce Dayton
I can certainly appreciate the 'try to photograph hummingbirds'
comment.  I have spent a couple of afternoons in Golden Gate Park
'trying' myself.

This shot is way cool!  Very nicely done.  I'm envious.

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Monday, July 20, 2009, 2:38:22 PM, you wrote:

MR Just spent 10 days on vacation in NC. Very relaxing and tiring at the
MR same time (lots of hiking  biking). I'll be going off-list again in
MR about a week when we are moving into our new place in Boston. Nut I'll
MR be posting occasional PESO's and stuff intermittently until then.

MR The first day at the cabin last week, I spent the afternoon
MR photographing (or trying to photograph) hummingbirds. Here's a shot
MR with the FA*300/2.8 and 2x teleconverter:

MR http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7d904208.htm


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Re: Mini soft box

2009-07-21 Thread Bruce Dayton
Dave,

In loosely following this thread I seem to recall you wanting to
flash fill in sunlit situations.  If I am mistaken, please ignore the
following.

I use flash quite extensively with wedding and portrait work - both
as fill and main light source.  It has been my experience that when
the sun is providing the main light, unless you are working quite
close to the subject (macro) or you have highly reflective objects in
the frame, that a light modifier doesn't really make much difference
at all, just robs power from the flash.  So even though I use
modifiers most of the time with flash as the primary light source, when
I am shooting outdoors with the sun as the main light source, I don't
bother with any modifier - it just doesn't make any difference that you
can see.

Now this does mean that you have to control the amount of fill - the
AF360 flash has the ability to dial in compensation - I use somewhere
between -2.00 and -0.5 usually depending on the brightness of the
sun.  When compensated properly, you won't notice flash usage in the
picture, but the shadows will fill and catchlights will be there and
dark eye sockets will go away.

Hope this helps.

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Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 3:06:00 AM, you wrote:

DJB On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 9:28 PM, paul
DJB stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 I have the Lumina softbox for on-camera flash. It's okay, but the
 Lightsphere provides more diffusion. The softbox is good when you can't
 sacrifice more than a stop or two.

DJB Thats is my other option that i am pondering at the moment.

DJB Dave
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Re: need help from AF540-FTZ owners

2009-07-21 Thread Bob Sullivan
Jostein,

I just ran a series theu the K-7 and 77 Ltd at F8 with the 540 Flash.
My flash doesn't show any anomalies when zoomed to 48mm vs 16, 24, 34, or 58.
Exposure stays the same.  I think you have a flash fault.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 4:03 AM, AlunFotoalunf...@gmail.com wrote:
 Could I bother you guys to take a look at this comparison:
 http://www.alunfoto.no/temp/flashAnomaly/flashtest.html

 All shots obtained at a working distance of 2 meters, and with
 constant ambient light. The 48mm series stands quite distinctly apart.

 Graydon and John (or others), if you still think this is rationally
 explainable by other factors than a faulty flash, please let me know.

 Jostein

 2009/7/11 Graydon o...@uniserve.com:
 On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 10:10:23PM +0200, AlunFoto scripsit:
 You describe how I would expect the flash to function. My observation
 was that at _one_ particular zoom setting, 48mm, the output is two
 stops brighter than any other zoom setting. This also includes 58mm
 which, as you say, should produce a more concentrated beam. If there
 was any logic to this the 58mm zoom setting should have been even
 worse than 48mm, but the histogram at 58mm is perfect... :-(

 If there's a step function in the output of the flash, though, and over
 48 gets stepped down and _up to_ 48 does not get stepped down, it's
 quite possible that 48 would result in blown highlights while 58
 wouldn't.

 Why this is happening goes back to the usual evil algorithm vs hardware
 fault question.

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OT: Did Capa Fake the Falling Soldier Photograph?

2009-07-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
New claims that the iconic war image was staged:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1201116/How-Capas-camera-does-lie-The-photographic-proof-iconic-Falling-Soldier-image-staged.ht

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Re: I'm back :)

2009-07-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Marvelous image!

Dan

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 Just spent 10 days on vacation in NC. Very relaxing and tiring at the
 same time (lots of hiking  biking). I'll be going off-list again in
 about a week when we are moving into our new place in Boston. Nut I'll
 be posting occasional PESO's and stuff intermittently until then.

 The first day at the cabin last week, I spent the afternoon
 photographing (or trying to photograph) hummingbirds. Here's a shot
 with the FA*300/2.8 and 2x teleconverter:

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Re: controlled noise test

2009-07-21 Thread Larry Colen
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 09:25:42AM -0700, Bruce Dayton wrote:

 For what it is worth, your expectation may be a little high for the
 K20.  Where did you come up with this expectation.  Generally

When I got the K20 I dropped, I remember being very impressed at how
well it handled higher ISOs.

These pictures were in much worse lighting than the ones I shot last
weekend:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157614927248026/

On this trip, I did a lot of shooting at higher ISOs:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157618384885452/

This set has several at 400-800
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157618427088419/

This set has a couple up to ISO 3200
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157618521434968/

When it was replaced by my current K20, it seems that even ISO 400
will look noisy and crappy:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157620576275348/

 speaking as the photosites get smaller, noise gets stronger.  So
 there has to be a way to compensate for it.  It is my understanding
 that manufacturing has improved so that the photosites are too much
 smaller than the older 6mp sensors.

Less than half the area, 6/14.9 as much area.

 What I am getting at here is that your expectation may be off.  How
 do the normal images look?  Those not boosted to high iso?

I did very little high ISO shooting on this trip:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157621292072536/

A lot of these were at ISO 500 and noisier than I had hoped:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157621291376438/
 
 The best thing to do is compare to another K20. 

I agree, that's what I want to do.

 I'm in Sacramento so
 not too convenient.  I do work in SF every Thursday.

I tend to get to SF on Friday evenings.
 
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 Best regards,
 Bruce
 
 
 Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 8:11:42 AM, you wrote:
 
 LC On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 07:29:29AM -0400, paul stenquist wrote:
 
  Why would you add +.7 exposure comp on the K100 but not  on the K20?  
 
 LC Because without the exposure compensation the K100 was
 LC underexposing. At nominal exposure, the white in the background on the
 LC K20 was on the verge of clipping, with the K100, I had to tweak the EV
 LC to expose to the right.
 
 LC I was getting both cameras to expose correctly so that it would not be
 LC an apples to oranges comparison.
 
  More exposure will reduce the noise on both cameras. Again, it's  
  apples to oranges.
 
 LC The problem is that what I really need is to compare my K20 with
 LC another K20. I'm trying to find out if my K20 is working properly, and
 LC my understanding is that it is supposed to be so much better than the
 LC K100, that there shouldn't be any question. I should not be able to
 LC make the K100 work even close to as well as the K20.
 
 LC But, perhaps I spent $800 for far less improvement in image quality
 LC than I expected.
 
  Paul
  On Jul 21, 2009, at 3:42 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
  
  On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:34:36AM -0700, Joseph McAllister wrote:
  Hardly a labeled K20 shot in the bunch, Larry. You've duplicated the
  urls on most of them.
  
  Oops, The URLs for the sets which have 18 or 27 shots each were
  correct.
  
  And they're all in the collection:
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157621749552926/
  
  
  
  On Jul 21, 2009, at 00:21 , Larry Colen wrote:
  K100, at 1000x800
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157621756137388/
  
  K20 at 1000x800
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157621756062718/
  
  K100, cropped in tight
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157621631845587/
  
  K20 cropped in tight
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157621631845587/
  
  
  K20 ISO 3200
  Exposure:  0.6
  Aperture:  f/5.6
  Focal Length:  77 mm
  Exposure:  0.00
  ISO Speed: 3200
  http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2481/3742194472_2a6494a52f_o.jpg
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3741392561/in/set-72157621631852205/
  http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2583/3741392561_b9288fdf07_o.jpg
  
  
  K100 ISO 3200
  Exposure:  0.8
  Aperture:  f/5.6
  Focal Length:  77 mm
  Exposure:  0.00
  ISO Speed: 3200
  Exposure Bias: +0.7 EV
  http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2481/3742194472_2a6494a52f_o.jpg
  http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2481/3742194472_2a6494a52f_o.jpg
  
  
  K100 ISO 800 pushed 1 2/3 stops
  Exposure:1
  Aperture:f/5.6
  Focal Length:  77 mm
  Exposure:  +1.90
  ISO Speed: 800
  Exposure Bias: -1 EV
  http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2576/3742195532_35f085de3e.jpg
  http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2576/3742195532_35f085de3e.jpg
  http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2576/3742195532_1e99ae1e6f_o.jpg
  
  
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Re: PESO: Bent Tree

2009-07-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Tim

Dan

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Tim Øslebymaritim...@gmail.com wrote:
 Old post and old PESO, but it should not stand uncommented.
 Lovely colors in this one Daniel :-)
 Some good lines there too.

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 2009/6/26 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com:
 Another image I found recently while going over old scans.

 I passed this tree every day on my way to and from my office in
 Trenton for 3 years, and it always drew my attention.  Finally,
 decades later, I dragged out my 6x7 to capture it on film.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9392612size=md

 Comments and criticism welcome.

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Re: OT: Did Capa Fake the Falling Soldier Photograph?

2009-07-21 Thread Sasha Sobol
The link should read:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1201116/How-Capas-camera-does-lie-The-photographic-proof-iconic-Falling-Soldier-image-staged.html

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Daniel J. Matyoladanmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 New claims that the iconic war image was staged:

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Re: Kodak DC 25 camera and files.

2009-07-21 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Jul 21, 2009, at 05:27 , Bruce Walker wrote:


David J Brooks wrote:

I used to own this digital camera, picked it up in 1997.
I have an older iomega zip drive, 100meg, that i have the dc25  
files stored on.
I have tried to find the software via a google search, but it seems  
unavailable.

I have a few photos of my parents at their 50th wedding lunch i would
like to try and get off the disk.
Whats the chances any one on the list used the camera and has the
software.??? None i suppose.
I cannot remember if the zip drive(plugs into the printer port)
required software or not.
Dave


Dave, the parallel port Zip drives required a driver for Windows.  
There's also an alternate cable that attaches those Zip drives to  
older Macs via the Mac SCSI port connector.


This may be what you need for Windows ...

http://www.softwarepatch.com/utilities/iomega-zip.html

However, what format are the images saved in?  Possibly not JPEG,  
but perhaps Photo-CD?



I had a laugh reading the DC25 manual PDF: http://is.gd/1Gldq

We've come along nicely since the DC25: 5 seconds to produce a  
320x240 pixel image. Took a 2 *megabyte* CF card.  Yowza!


At the January 1996 MacWorld User Group Breakfast, I won a copy of the  
newly released High Resolution DC-40. The manual reveals: http://www.kodak.com/global/en/service/digCam/dc40/manual/dc40english.pdf
that the same 5 secs between images, 8 seconds if you use the flash.  
It took 756 x 504 pixels, 24 bit color depth.  Still have it  
somewhere, in a black and chartreuse case... Yowza indeed!


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Re: OT: Did Capa Fake the Falling Soldier Photograph?

2009-07-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Yes, thank you, I did a poor job of copying and pasting.

Dam

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Sasha Sobolsa...@asobol.com wrote:
 The link should read:
 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1201116/How-Capas-camera-does-lie-The-photographic-proof-iconic-Falling-Soldier-image-staged.html

 On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Daniel J. Matyoladanmaty...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 New claims that the iconic war image was staged:

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Re: PESO Emergent

2009-07-21 Thread Sasha Sobol
I really like how the flower melts.
After some thoughts: I would prefer not so active green background.

--Sasha

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 7:42 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgigdigio...@gmail.com wrote:
 Very nice!

 I've been using the mini softbox for a bit now, need a larger one too.
 I also use a round foldup diffuser, tape it to the flash in a big
 curve occasionally. Anything to spread out and sften the light.

 On Monday, July 20, 2009, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Becoming acquainted with less than 2 week old enablement: DA* 55mm F1.4 ...

 http://is.gd/1FluZ

 Exp 1/100, f/1.4, ISO 200, 540FGZ flash inside Westcott 18 softbox; PP in 
 CS4.

 Comments welcome!

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Re: need help from AF540-FTZ owners

2009-07-21 Thread AlunFoto
Thanks Bob!
That's the final nail in the coffin I guess.
I dread the thought of sending it off, though. It will have to go to
Germany for repair, where Pentax Europe has dismantled its own
organisation and buy the service from a company that also serve other
manufacturers. Rumors of extremely long response times are
reverberating both in virtual and physical spheres. :-(

Jostein

2009/7/21 Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com:
 Jostein,

 I just ran a series theu the K-7 and 77 Ltd at F8 with the 540 Flash.
 My flash doesn't show any anomalies when zoomed to 48mm vs 16, 24, 34, or 58.
 Exposure stays the same.  I think you have a flash fault.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 4:03 AM, AlunFotoalunf...@gmail.com wrote:
 Could I bother you guys to take a look at this comparison:
 http://www.alunfoto.no/temp/flashAnomaly/flashtest.html

 All shots obtained at a working distance of 2 meters, and with
 constant ambient light. The 48mm series stands quite distinctly apart.

 Graydon and John (or others), if you still think this is rationally
 explainable by other factors than a faulty flash, please let me know.

 Jostein

 2009/7/11 Graydon o...@uniserve.com:
 On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 10:10:23PM +0200, AlunFoto scripsit:
 You describe how I would expect the flash to function. My observation
 was that at _one_ particular zoom setting, 48mm, the output is two
 stops brighter than any other zoom setting. This also includes 58mm
 which, as you say, should produce a more concentrated beam. If there
 was any logic to this the 58mm zoom setting should have been even
 worse than 48mm, but the histogram at 58mm is perfect... :-(

 If there's a step function in the output of the flash, though, and over
 48 gets stepped down and _up to_ 48 does not get stepped down, it's
 quite possible that 48 would result in blown highlights while 58
 wouldn't.

 Why this is happening goes back to the usual evil algorithm vs hardware
 fault question.

 -- Graydon

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Re: Back, with new K7

2009-07-21 Thread AlunFoto
Hi Jan!
Welcome back! Congrats with the K-7.
You've been lurking for a couple of weeks. How's the traffic volume
since a year ago? :-)

Cheers,
Jostein

2009/7/21 Jan van Wijk pen...@dfsee.com:
 Hi all,

 After being unsubscribed for almost a year due to too much traffic, I have
 been lurking for the last couple of weeks, anticipating K7 discussions here 
 :-)

 Just received mine today, replacing the K10D.
 Battery is charging (4 more hours to go).

 Looks great, lots of reading to do ...

 Regards, Jan van Wijk

 PS:

 K7 has dropped from list price 1299 to 1029 Euros
 here in the Netherlands (my local shop).

 Not a bad price I think ...
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Re: Mini soft box

2009-07-21 Thread Joseph McAllister

Gotta do what you can to get rice to those Chinese school children!

Anybody remember that campaign 50 years ago?


On Jul 21, 2009, at 06:26 , Brian Walters wrote:


After looking at the links Joe posted, I just ordered one of these:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=160347997123ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:AU:1123

At that price it doesn't matter much if it's crap


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Re: PESO 2009 - 120 - GDG

2009-07-21 Thread Marco Alpert

How delighfully creepy.

   - Marco

On Jul 21, 2009, at 6:34 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

From this past weekend's photowalk ... I'm working the photowalk set  
from Saturday in color at present, but i rendered this one to  
monochrome too. It does something quite different in BW. I'm  
curious to hear your thoughts.


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2462/3742053605_54c1b3d58f_o.jpg
120 - Hand Dance - Niles Canyon 2009
Panasonic G1 + Cosmicar 12.5mm f/1.4
ISO 100 @ f/2 @ 1/100 sec
 flickr page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/3742053605/

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Re: Back, with new K7

2009-07-21 Thread Jan van Wijk
Hi Jostein,

On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:58:10 +0200 AlunFoto wrote:


Welcome back! Congrats with the K-7.
You've been lurking for a couple of weeks. How's the traffic volume
since a year ago? :-)

Pretty similar I think, ups and downs as usual :-)


But I can cope a bit better now, had too much on my hands
to go over 100+ message a day back then ...


Battery is charged BTW, just made a few shots and a 20 sec movie
Found a nice setting in the menu for my old(ish) eyes: Large Text :-)

Will see if I get some birds interested tomorrow to fly by 
the K7 + DA* 300mm, and check-out AF-C :-)

Regards, JvW



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Re: Back, with new K7

2009-07-21 Thread Joseph McAllister
Welcome back, Jan. Everything is the same, except for the 2009 GFM,  
the DA*60-250 and the K-7.



On Jul 21, 2009, at 08:59 , Jan van Wijk wrote:

After being unsubscribed for almost a year due to too much traffic,  
I have
been lurking for the last couple of weeks, anticipating K7  
discussions here :-)


Just received mine today, replacing the K10D.
Battery is charging (4 more hours to go).

Looks great, lots of reading to do ...

Regards, Jan van Wijk


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Re: Mini soft box

2009-07-21 Thread Joseph McAllister
Free postage is what the eBay listing says. Which means these guys are  
buying these things wholesale for about $0.50. Shipping is minimal  
(they mail it in an envelope) the rest is profit. It may have come  
from California, if I recall. Makes more sense to ship a case to a US  
friend and have them mail them.



On Jul 21, 2009, at 08:47 , David J Brooks wrote:


Thats true.:-) I don't see what the postage to Canada is. I have sent
an email, and if its not to much, I'll order one to.
Liz can't get to upset for $5.00 US.:-)


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Re: GESO - Flying Chiller (inspired by Christine)

2009-07-21 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Christine Aguila

Subject: Re: GESO - Flying Chiller (inspired by Christine)


Hi Igor:  That was fun to see.  I suspect you were hopping mad when you 
realized you were given the wrong specs!I was in Athens, Greece for a 
month in 1989 and saw a piano delivered to a residence the same way as 
your chiller.  Created quite a stir and a huge crowd of onlookers.


HAR! We bought a paper processor from some crooked ebay vendor in Florida 
some years ago. We built the darkroom it was to be installed in based on the 
actual measurments the seller provided us with.
He neglected to mention that the filter pots were external, and a bugger to 
remove and replace, and added a few inches to the width of the machine, 
enough width that removing the door and casing wasn't quite enough to allow 
the thing to fit.
We ended up removing and repairing a portion of the wall as being the easier 
method of install.


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Re: GESO - Flying Chiller (inspired by Christine)

2009-07-21 Thread Igor Roshchin


Heh... It would've been ok if that was the only problem I got
from that company...
It took them more almost 2 years until the system was finally accepted
(and paid for). 
In the mean time they figured out that the chiller in question was 
a wrong one, and was not yielding the requirements of the system,
so it was removed (through the already built by then building addition)
and shipped back to the factory in Chicago-land for retro-fitting.

Igor

- Original Message - 
From: Christine Aguila
Subject: Re: GESO - Flying Chiller (inspired by Christine)


 Hi Igor:  That was fun to see.  I suspect you were hopping mad when you 
 realized you were given the wrong specs!I was in Athens, Greece for a 
 month in 1989 and saw a piano delivered to a residence the same way as 
 your chiller.  Created quite a stir and a huge crowd of onlookers.


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Re: Kodak DC 25 camera and files.

2009-07-21 Thread Drew
I have a DC50... it's got zoom! it was the first digital camera my 
company bought. I used it extensively until we bought a 1.3Mpix Olympus. 
  Actually I am on the lookout for a serial cable for the Kodak should 
anyone have one around??


Cheers,
Drew.




Joseph McAllister wrote:

On Jul 21, 2009, at 05:27 , Bruce Walker wrote:


David J Brooks wrote:

I used to own this digital camera, picked it up in 1997.
I have an older iomega zip drive, 100meg, that i have the dc25 files 
stored on.
I have tried to find the software via a google search, but it seems 
unavailable.

I have a few photos of my parents at their 50th wedding lunch i would
like to try and get off the disk.
Whats the chances any one on the list used the camera and has the
software.??? None i suppose.
I cannot remember if the zip drive(plugs into the printer port)
required software or not.
Dave


Dave, the parallel port Zip drives required a driver for Windows. 
There's also an alternate cable that attaches those Zip drives to 
older Macs via the Mac SCSI port connector.


This may be what you need for Windows ...

http://www.softwarepatch.com/utilities/iomega-zip.html

However, what format are the images saved in?  Possibly not JPEG, but 
perhaps Photo-CD?



I had a laugh reading the DC25 manual PDF: http://is.gd/1Gldq

We've come along nicely since the DC25: 5 seconds to produce a 320x240 
pixel image. Took a 2 *megabyte* CF card.  Yowza!


At the January 1996 MacWorld User Group Breakfast, I won a copy of the 
newly released High Resolution DC-40. The manual reveals: 
http://www.kodak.com/global/en/service/digCam/dc40/manual/dc40english.pdf
that the same 5 secs between images, 8 seconds if you use the flash. It 
took 756 x 504 pixels, 24 bit color depth.  Still have it somewhere, in 
a black and chartreuse case... Yowza indeed!


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This thing that you see,
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Re: Construction IV

2009-07-21 Thread Ken Waller

I prefer the cropped version.

BTW - It has a spot of dust, midway between the crane  the RH structure, a 
little above the workers head.


I would recommend a minimum of lens changing on site. If you must change, 
keep the camera body oriented with the mount down, and rapidly cap the 
removed lens.


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net

Subject: Construction IV



Hi Everyone:

I am no longer a free-range chicken.

The tower crane is nearly up, and life on the site is hopping.  I have to 
be escorted everywhere now;  I have to wear safety glasses; and I was 
given ear plugs today. Do you guys prefer 7 or 8?--8 being a crop of 7. 
Also, other than the obvious--wipe camera down--is there any other camera 
maintenance I should do after shooting construction.  The dust is getting 
really bad, and I'm kind of worried about the DA 16-45mm.


http://www.caguila.com/caguila/towercrane/index.html

Comments welcome.
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Re: Kodak DC 25 camera and files.

2009-07-21 Thread Joseph McAllister

Mac or PC?


On Jul 21, 2009, at 12:14 , Drew wrote:

I have a DC50... it's got zoom! it was the first digital camera my  
company bought. I used it extensively until we bought a 1.3Mpix  
Olympus.   Actually I am on the lookout for a serial cable for the  
Kodak should anyone have one around??


Cheers,
Drew.


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Re: I'm back :)

2009-07-21 Thread Graydon
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 05:38:22PM -0400, Mark Roberts scripsit:
 The first day at the cabin last week, I spent the afternoon
 photographing (or trying to photograph) hummingbirds. Here's a shot
 with the FA*300/2.8 and 2x teleconverter:
 
 http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7d904208.htm

I believe that in conformance to local custom, the correct response to
this one is hate! loathe! despise!

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Re: Kodak DC 25 camera and files.

2009-07-21 Thread Drew

Hiya,

PC... it's an 8 pin mini DIN at the camera end and 9 pin D type on the 
computer end.


Drew.


Joseph McAllister wrote:

Mac or PC?


On Jul 21, 2009, at 12:14 , Drew wrote:

I have a DC50... it's got zoom! it was the first digital camera my 
company bought. I used it extensively until we bought a 1.3Mpix 
Olympus.   Actually I am on the lookout for a serial cable for the 
Kodak should anyone have one around??


Cheers,
Drew.


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Re: GESO - Flying Chiller (inspired by Christine)

2009-07-21 Thread Doug Franklin

Christine Aguila wrote:
I was in Athens, Greece for 
a month in 1989 and saw a piano delivered to a residence the same way as 
your chiller.  Created quite a stir and a huge crowd of onlookers.


Many of the older houses in Amsterdam have a hook and support built 
into the building under the eaves for lifting furniture and such into 
the upper floors by way of balconies and balcony doors.


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Re: I'm back :)

2009-07-21 Thread John Sessoms

From: mike wilson

Mark Roberts wrote:


 Cotty wrote:
 
 

On 20/7/09, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:



Nut I'll
be posting occasional PESO's


Gimme the URL and I'll be pecan.
 
 
 You'd better not let me cashew at it.


All these puns.  It's chestnut possible to keep up.



Walnut if you take that attitude it isn't.


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Private: need help from AF540-FTZ owners

2009-07-21 Thread Bob Sullivan
Jostein,
I just checked on the K20 with the 77 Ltd @ F8.
Results were the same as with the K-7 and 540.
No anomaly when the 540 was zoomed to 48mm.
Regards,  Bob S.


On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:55 PM, AlunFotoalunf...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks Bob!
 That's the final nail in the coffin I guess.
 I dread the thought of sending it off, though. It will have to go to
 Germany for repair, where Pentax Europe has dismantled its own
 organisation and buy the service from a company that also serve other
 manufacturers. Rumors of extremely long response times are
 reverberating both in virtual and physical spheres. :-(

 Jostein

 2009/7/21 Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com:
 Jostein,

 I just ran a series theu the K-7 and 77 Ltd at F8 with the 540 Flash.
 My flash doesn't show any anomalies when zoomed to 48mm vs 16, 24, 34, or 58.
 Exposure stays the same.  I think you have a flash fault.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 4:03 AM, AlunFotoalunf...@gmail.com wrote:
 Could I bother you guys to take a look at this comparison:
 http://www.alunfoto.no/temp/flashAnomaly/flashtest.html

 All shots obtained at a working distance of 2 meters, and with
 constant ambient light. The 48mm series stands quite distinctly apart.

 Graydon and John (or others), if you still think this is rationally
 explainable by other factors than a faulty flash, please let me know.

 Jostein

 2009/7/11 Graydon o...@uniserve.com:
 On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 10:10:23PM +0200, AlunFoto scripsit:
 You describe how I would expect the flash to function. My observation
 was that at _one_ particular zoom setting, 48mm, the output is two
 stops brighter than any other zoom setting. This also includes 58mm
 which, as you say, should produce a more concentrated beam. If there
 was any logic to this the 58mm zoom setting should have been even
 worse than 48mm, but the histogram at 58mm is perfect... :-(

 If there's a step function in the output of the flash, though, and over
 48 gets stepped down and _up to_ 48 does not get stepped down, it's
 quite possible that 48 would result in blown highlights while 58
 wouldn't.

 Why this is happening goes back to the usual evil algorithm vs hardware
 fault question.

 -- Graydon

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Re: GESO - Flying Chiller (inspired by Christine)

2009-07-21 Thread Bob Sullivan
Sometimes in old building in Chicago have them too, if you know what
to look for.
Regards, Bob S.

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 Christine Aguila wrote:

 I was in Athens, Greece for a month in 1989 and saw a piano delivered to a
 residence the same way as your chiller.  Created quite a stir and a huge
 crowd of onlookers.

 Many of the older houses in Amsterdam have a hook and support built into
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RE: GESO - Flying Chiller (inspired by Christine)

2009-07-21 Thread Bob W
 
 Sometimes in old building in Chicago have them too, if you know what
 to look for.
 Regards, Bob S.
 
 On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Doug 
 Franklinjehosep...@mindspring.com wrote:
  Christine Aguila wrote:
 
  I was in Athens, Greece for a month in 1989 and saw a 
 piano delivered to a
  residence the same way as your chiller.  Created quite a 
 stir and a huge
  crowd of onlookers.
 
  Many of the older houses in Amsterdam have a hook and 
 support built into
  the building under the eaves for lifting furniture and such 
 into the upper
  floors by way of balconies and balcony doors.
 

I think the correct term is block and tackle. They generally identify former
warehouses, not private homes. A private home wouldn't need to be hauling
stuff up and down so often that they needed to build something like that in.


They're very common around here - London was once the world's largest port
and the river is still lined with old wharves and warehouses which have
mainly been converted, but bits of original paraphernalia all help to keep
the price up, and look very nice.

Bob


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Re: PESO 2009 - 120 - GDG

2009-07-21 Thread Christine Aguila

What Marco said!  Fun shot, Godfrey!  Cheers, Christine


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How delighfully creepy.

   - Marco

On Jul 21, 2009, at 6:34 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

From this past weekend's photowalk ... I'm working the photowalk set 
from Saturday in color at present, but i rendered this one to  monochrome 
too. It does something quite different in BW. I'm  curious to hear your 
thoughts.


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2462/3742053605_54c1b3d58f_o.jpg
120 - Hand Dance - Niles Canyon 2009
Panasonic G1 + Cosmicar 12.5mm f/1.4
ISO 100 @ f/2 @ 1/100 sec
 flickr page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/3742053605/

thanks for looking, all comments appreciated.

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PESO - eyelashes or not?

2009-07-21 Thread Igor Roshchin

Somebody got eyelashes:
http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Mixed-2009/IMGP9300-1.jpg

... and somebody - none:
http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Mixed-2009/IMGP9360.jpg

And here's how we met today:
http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Mixed-2009/IMGP9342.jpg 
http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Mixed-2009/IMGP9343.jpg 

BTW, can somebody help figuring out who this is:
http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Mixed-2009/IMGP9296.jpg ?

Igor


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Re: I'm back :)

2009-07-21 Thread Christine Aguila


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To: pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: I'm back :) 




From: mike wilson

Mark Roberts wrote:


 Cotty wrote:
 
 

On 20/7/09, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:



Nut I'll
be posting occasional PESO's


Gimme the URL and I'll be pecan.
 
 
 You'd better not let me cashew at it.


All these puns.  It's chestnut possible to keep up.



Walnut if you take that attitude it isn't.


Almonday I was able to resist this pun thread, but come Tuesday I cracked.


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Re: Construction IV

2009-07-21 Thread Christine Aguila
Thanks, Ken.  Yea, I spotted that spot--should be an easy fix.  I don't do 
any lens changing on site--I keep it simple:  2 bodies--one to go wide  1 
to go longer, so that helps.  Thanks, again.  Cheers, Christine





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I prefer the cropped version.

BTW - It has a spot of dust, midway between the crane  the RH structure, 
a little above the workers head.


I would recommend a minimum of lens changing on site. If you must change, 
keep the camera body oriented with the mount down, and rapidly cap the 
removed lens.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
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From: Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net

Subject: Construction IV



Hi Everyone:

I am no longer a free-range chicken.

The tower crane is nearly up, and life on the site is hopping.  I have to 
be escorted everywhere now;  I have to wear safety glasses; and I was 
given ear plugs today. Do you guys prefer 7 or 8?--8 being a crop of 7. 
Also, other than the obvious--wipe camera down--is there any other camera 
maintenance I should do after shooting construction.  The dust is getting 
really bad, and I'm kind of worried about the DA 16-45mm.


http://www.caguila.com/caguila/towercrane/index.html

Comments welcome.
Cheers, Christine



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Re: Construction IV

2009-07-21 Thread Christine Aguila
Thanks Bruce, Igor, Jack, Dave B., Mike,  Joseph for input and comments. 
Much appreciated.  I think I'll have wait on the DA* 16-50 :-).  Cheers, 
Christine



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Subject: Re: Construction IV



Christine Aguila wrote:

The dust is getting really bad, and I'm kind of worried about the DA 
16-45mm.


http://www.caguila.com/caguila/towercrane/index.html

Comments welcome.
Cheers, Christine


Perfectly good reason to get a DA* 16-50 then -- don't fight the LBA. :-) 
That business about the lens extensions pulling in fine dust may mean more 
trouble for the camera insides as much as the lens. I don't know if the 
16-50 is any better in that regard than the 16-45. Does weather sealing 
imply fine-dust sealing?


Nice shots!

-bmw

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Re: Private: need help from AF540-FTZ owners

2009-07-21 Thread Doug Brewer

Bob Sullivan wrote:

Jostein,
I just checked on the K20 with the 77 Ltd @ F8.
Results were the same as with the K-7 and 540.
No anomaly when the 540 was zoomed to 48mm.
Regards,  Bob S.


(cough)

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Re: I'm back :)

2009-07-21 Thread Mark Roberts
Christine  Aguila wrote:

From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com

 From: mike wilson
 Mark Roberts wrote:
 
  Cotty wrote:
  
 On 20/7/09, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Nut I'll
 be posting occasional PESO's
 
 Gimme the URL and I'll be pecan.
  
  You'd better not let me cashew at it.
 
 All these puns.  It's chestnut possible to keep up.
 
 Walnut if you take that attitude it isn't.

Almonday I was able to resist this pun thread, but come Tuesday I cracked.

Good to see you come out of your shell.

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Re: Kodak DC 25 camera and files.

2009-07-21 Thread P. J. Alling
Yes the zip drive requires software.  The latest drivers are available 
from Iomega.  However, when I attempted to install them on my Win2K box 
they totally screwed up the bus driver, you should beware...


David J Brooks wrote:

I used to own this digital camera, picked it up in 1997.

I have an older iomega zip drive, 100meg, that i have the dc25 files stored on.

I have tried to find the software via a google search, but it seems unavailable.

I have a few photos of my parents at their 50th wedding lunch i would
like to try and get off the disk.

Whats the chances any one on the list used the camera and has the
software.??? None i suppose.

I cannot remember if the zip drive(plugs into the printer port)
required software or not.

Dave

  



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Re: I'm back :)

2009-07-21 Thread Igor Roshchin
Tue Jul 21 19:44:44 CDT 2009
Mark Roberts wrote:

 Christine  Aguila wrote:
 
 From: John Sessoms jsessoms002 at nc.rr.com
 
  From: mike wilson
  Mark Roberts wrote:
  
   Cotty wrote:
   
  On 20/7/09, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
  
  Nut I'll
  be posting occasional PESO's
  
  Gimme the URL and I'll be pecan.
   
   You'd better not let me cashew at it.
  
  All these puns.  It's chestnut possible to keep up.
  
  Walnut if you take that attitude it isn't.
 
 Almonday I was able to resist this pun thread, but come Tuesday I cracked.
 
 Good to see you come out of your shell.
 
... to the world of nutc-rakers.





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Re: Construction IV

2009-07-21 Thread ann sanfedele

Photography lovely -- but the cranes vry scary!

I swear I get a bit of my acrophobia just looking at those guys  

as to 7 v 8 - I prefer 7,  stronglyand I like the very first shot a 
lot...


ann

Christine Aguila wrote:


Hi Everyone:

I am no longer a free-range chicken.

The tower crane is nearly up, and life on the site is hopping.  I have 
to be escorted everywhere now;  I have to wear safety glasses; and I 
was given ear plugs today. Do you guys prefer 7 or 8?--8 being a crop 
of 7.  Also, other than the obvious--wipe camera down--is there any 
other camera maintenance I should do after shooting construction.  The 
dust is getting really bad, and I'm kind of worried about the DA 16-45mm.


http://www.caguila.com/caguila/towercrane/index.html

Comments welcome.
Cheers, Christine


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Re: Kodak DC 25 camera and files.

2009-07-21 Thread David J Brooks
Loaded up the driver and it seems to work. I'll keep my eye on any hic
ups, and if i see some, i'll just remove the zip programs.

Dave

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:21 PM, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes the zip drive requires software.  The latest drivers are available from
 Iomega.  However, when I attempted to install them on my Win2K box they
 totally screwed up the bus driver, you should beware...

 David J Brooks wrote:

 I used to own this digital camera, picked it up in 1997.

 I have an older iomega zip drive, 100meg, that i have the dc25 files
 stored on.

 I have tried to find the software via a google search, but it seems
 unavailable.

 I have a few photos of my parents at their 50th wedding lunch i would
 like to try and get off the disk.

 Whats the chances any one on the list used the camera and has the
 software.??? None i suppose.

 I cannot remember if the zip drive(plugs into the printer port)
 required software or not.

 Dave




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Re: Construction IV

2009-07-21 Thread paul stenquist
Nice work. I like both 7 and 8. It's perspective vs. detail. Number 1  
is excellent. Not an easy shoot with all these narrow verticals, but  
you executed it well.

Paul

On Jul 21, 2009, at 9:37 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:


Photography lovely -- but the cranes vry scary!

I swear I get a bit of my acrophobia just looking at those guys
as to 7 v 8 - I prefer 7,  stronglyand I like the very first  
shot a lot...


ann

Christine Aguila wrote:


Hi Everyone:

I am no longer a free-range chicken.

The tower crane is nearly up, and life on the site is hopping.  I  
have to be escorted everywhere now;  I have to wear safety glasses;  
and I was given ear plugs today. Do you guys prefer 7 or 8?--8  
being a crop of 7.  Also, other than the obvious--wipe camera down-- 
is there any other camera maintenance I should do after shooting  
construction.  The dust is getting really bad, and I'm kind of  
worried about the DA 16-45mm.


http://www.caguila.com/caguila/towercrane/index.html

Comments welcome.
Cheers, Christine


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Re: GESO - Flying Chiller (inspired by Christine)

2009-07-21 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bob W.
Some of the oldest neighborhoods in the USA are filled with narrow homes.
To have survived into the modern era here, they had to be in more
luxurious areas.
(Others were simply redeveloped.)
Like Amsterdam, homes have block and tackle on top to move luxury furniture.
The block  tackle is pretty well know here.  Every farm's barn has one.
Regards, Bob S.


On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Bob Wp...@web-options.com wrote:

 Sometimes in old building in Chicago have them too, if you know what
 to look for.
 Regards, Bob S.

 On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Doug
 Franklinjehosep...@mindspring.com wrote:
  Christine Aguila wrote:
 
  I was in Athens, Greece for a month in 1989 and saw a
 piano delivered to a
  residence the same way as your chiller.  Created quite a
 stir and a huge
  crowd of onlookers.
 
  Many of the older houses in Amsterdam have a hook and
 support built into
  the building under the eaves for lifting furniture and such
 into the upper
  floors by way of balconies and balcony doors.
 

 I think the correct term is block and tackle. They generally identify former
 warehouses, not private homes. A private home wouldn't need to be hauling
 stuff up and down so often that they needed to build something like that in.


 They're very common around here - London was once the world's largest port
 and the river is still lined with old wharves and warehouses which have
 mainly been converted, but bits of original paraphernalia all help to keep
 the price up, and look very nice.

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Re: Kodak DC 25 camera and files.

2009-07-21 Thread P. J. Alling
The problem I had was that the Iomega software replaced a critical dll, 
which caused a BSoD at some random time after boot up.  Removing the 
software did not remove the bad driver.  System recovery was painful and 
incomplete.  If you're using WinXP you may not have any problems.


David J Brooks wrote:

Loaded up the driver and it seems to work. I'll keep my eye on any hic
ups, and if i see some, i'll just remove the zip programs.

Dave

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:21 PM, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
  

Yes the zip drive requires software.  The latest drivers are available from
Iomega.  However, when I attempted to install them on my Win2K box they
totally screwed up the bus driver, you should beware...

David J Brooks wrote:


I used to own this digital camera, picked it up in 1997.

I have an older iomega zip drive, 100meg, that i have the dc25 files
stored on.

I have tried to find the software via a google search, but it seems
unavailable.

I have a few photos of my parents at their 50th wedding lunch i would
like to try and get off the disk.

Whats the chances any one on the list used the camera and has the
software.??? None i suppose.

I cannot remember if the zip drive(plugs into the printer port)
required software or not.

Dave


  

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