RE: OT - Afghanistan by motorcycle

[Bob W]

> 
> we are attempting something on a smaller/higher scale next 
> summer albeit for just three weeks. eight of us are planning 
> to do first the manali-leh highway (475 km, goes through five 
> high altitude passes four of which are above 16000 ft) and 
> then interior ladakh itself on MTBs.
> we've bought the cycles (i've personally bought the 
> cannondale f9 one of the cheapest entry-level mtbs but which 
> has set my bank balance by quiet a bit ;-)). the training has 
> started and hopefully we can pull it off. perhaps bigger, 
> longer things await. someday. :)
> 

Looking forward to hearing about it, and seeing the pictures!

Bob


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Re: PESO - Ladies' Night Out

[gldnbearz]

Happy smiles from both.

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 5:51 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/09/ladies-evening-out.html
>
> A couple of friends enjoying an outing on a mild evening.
>
> Hope you enjoy.
>
> cheers,
> frank

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RE: More Bike race photos

[Bob W]

[...]
> 
> BTW, for those who object to bike helmets or spandex or race 
> jerseys or sponsor advertising or any of the other 
> accouterments of modern bike racing, it is hard to imagine 
> how you would be able to find any bike racing shot to be to 
> your liking...
> 

http://www.acontinuouslean.com/2009/01/27/london-the-tweed-run/

or

http://www.stephanvanfleteren.com/gallery_flandriens/index.html


> On Sep 27, 2009, at 4:13 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
> 
> > http://www.robertstech.com/blog/photos/gallery16/



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Re: Dave Brooks' day

[Boris Liberman]

Well, honestly, you just brought down me, Tom. But in all likelihood
you don't care too much about that either.

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:17 AM, Tom Cakalic  wrote:
> I'm not meaning to bring anyone down, but seriously, at least
> semi-seriously, all these birthday announcements... everyone is born
> within a 366 span of time by the Gregorian calendar.
>
> I could say more and just erased a bunch of blather which would make
> you dislike me more than this post...
>
> but who cares?

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Re: Dave Brooks' day

[Joseph McAllister]

On Sep 28, 2009, at 22:17 , Tom Cakalic wrote:


I'm not meaning to bring anyone down, but seriously, at least
semi-seriously, all these birthday announcements... everyone is born
within a 366 span of time by the Gregorian calendar.

I could say more and just erased a bunch of blather which would make
you dislike me more than this post...

but who cares?



  We do Tom.   When's yours


Joseph McAllister
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Re: Blues GESO- Paul Rishell & Annie Rains

[Larry Colen]

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 08:15:19PM -0400, Michael Beacom wrote:
> Pictures of a top drawer Blues duo, in a tiny venue- Archie's  
> Barbershop. (http://www.acousticblues.com/)

...

> http://www.flickr.com/photos/62343...@n00/sets/72157622467532792/
> 
> Comments and criticism are welcome.

Very nice, I have a hard earned appreciation of how hard it is to get
clean shots of vlues musicians.  

Are they black and white because the "stage" lighting was so horrible?

> 
> Cheers
> Mike
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Re: Dave Brooks' day

[Tom Cakalic]

I'm not meaning to bring anyone down, but seriously, at least
semi-seriously, all these birthday announcements... everyone is born
within a 366 span of time by the Gregorian calendar.

I could say more and just erased a bunch of blather which would make
you dislike me more than this post...

but who cares?


On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> I ain't no cat, but I was born on Sept 16th ;-).
>
> Thanks, Bong, Tim and Bob S!
>
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 5:27 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>> My cat, Ashley, is Sept 16th :)
>>
>> ann
>
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Re: OT - large format finagling

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Cotty" 
Subject: Re: OT - large format finagling





Actually my [camera] is bigger than that!! :-(



On a clear day, you can see Cotty and his camera with Google Earth.

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Re: Dave Brooks' day

[Boris Liberman]

I ain't no cat, but I was born on Sept 16th ;-).

Thanks, Bong, Tim and Bob S!

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 5:27 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> My cat, Ashley, is Sept 16th :)
>
> ann

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OT: opinons on the fuji f200exr?

[Subash]

over the next year and more, will be riding fairly long distances on
weekends and holidays on a bicycle, so looking to buy a good p&s which
would be convenient to carry around in a waist pouch. planning to get
the fujifilm f200exr. anyone have experience with this camera? in
which case, would appreciate your feedback..

thanks, subash

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Re: OT - Afghanistan by motorcycle

[Subash]

On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:18:16 +0530
Subash  wrote:

> On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:39:17 +0100
> "Bob W"  wrote:
> 
> > Of course! It has the best put-down of all time, from barking mad
> > Thesiger.
> 
> one thing lead to another to eventually take me here :)

that, of course, should be 'led' :)
 
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/2003/aug/27/travelbooks

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Re: OT - Afghanistan by motorcycle

[Subash]

On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:39:17 +0100
"Bob W"  wrote:

> Of course! It has the best put-down of all time, from barking mad
> Thesiger.

one thing lead to another to eventually take me here :)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/2003/aug/27/travelbooks

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Re: Dirt(?) inside my *ist DL/camera bag recommendation

[P. J. Alling]

You have dust on the sensor.  It's probably easily removable with a 
blower.  Just goto sensor cleaning in the menu and use a bulb blower to 
gently blow the dust off the sensor.  Or if you want to be slightly more 
aggressive, I use 3M dust remover, it's a canned product but is 
relatively gentle, though I'm sure rough handling will get it to spit.  
If neither of those works you'll have to take sterner measures.


Dennis Gibson wrote:
Hi - I'm new to the group. About 35 years ago I learned photography 
using a Spotmatic and fell in love with it. A number of years later 
when I decided to buy an SLR I remembered how much I'd liked the 
Spotmatic and bought a chrome MX and an M-series 50mm f/1.4. Over the 
years I've bought quite a few K-mount bodies and quite a few lenses. 
My favorite is my black MX. It has a minor problem that I'm willing to 
live with because I almost never shoot film anymore. The counter 
doesn't always reset to zero. That has to be the most beautiful camera 
I have ever seen.


Three years ago I decided to get a digital SLR so I bought a * ist DL 
and the kit lens, mostly because of the lens compatibility. I've been 
very pleased with it. However I think something got inside of it while 
changing lenses. For quite some time there have been some spots in the 
photos that shouldn't be there. It's easily seen here:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/dcgibson55/3663886483/in/set-72157620514334411 



It's almost half way up the first tower then another bigger one 
inbetwen the first two towers near the bottom. When I try to fix 
something it almost always leads to disaster. Is this something that's 
easily dealt with? If so I may sell it and step up to a K100D; one is 
available in mint condition for what I consider to be a very good 
price. I'd like to have a digital SLR body with image stabilization. 
My niece has a K100D and it seems very nice.


While looking at bags at Best Buy recently I found a nice Lowepro (all 
of my bags are Lowepro) that was being blown out too cheap ($12.99) to 
pass up so I bought two even though I wasn't sure what I'd put in one. 
It's the EX 140 and isn't in this year's catalog. I did some 
experimentation and found that I can lay my *ist DL on its back with 
the kit lens and hood on and the height is perfect. There's a teeny 
bit of wiggle room on the bottom but that's easily remedied. Two of 
the usual Lowepro Velcro type dividers are included. There's a front 
compartment and either my Pentax-FA 28-90mm or Tamron 75-300mm will 
fit in there. It's a bit snug with the Tamron but it fits.


Speaking of the FA 28-90mm I am underwhelmed with mine both optically 
and build quality wise. Fortunately I didn't pay very much for it. I 
need to figure out how to use my Vivitar Series 1 28-90mm on it. 
That's a great lens.


I am contemplating selling some of my film bodies and lenses that 
don't get used anymore. I live in a very expensive area and my wife 
passed away from cancer two months ago. We just barely got by with two 
incomes and now there's only one. The bodies would likely be an SFXn 
(European version of the SF1n), Chinese K1000, P30T and a chrome MX 
(the one referred to previously) that needs the foam replaced. The 
lenses might be M-series primes such as the 135, 150 and 200mm and 
there might be some nice aftermarket K/A zooms. I haven't decided 
exactly what I'll let go of yet. Actually there is one I'm sure about; 
the non SMC Takumar bayonet 135mm f/2.5. I was never happy with its 
sharpness or contrast. The M-series 135mm f/3.5 is much better. If 
there's any interest please write me directly.


Dennis
Santa Barbara, CA

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Re: Dave Brooks' day

[ann sanfedele]

My cat, Ashley, is Sept 16th :)

ann

Bong Manayon wrote:


How many here have their birthdays in September (I'm in the 6th)?

Happy Birthday, Dave, John ... and Boris?

Bong

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:42 AM, John Sessoms  wrote:
 


I was born on Sept 18th if that helps.

From: Boris Liberman
   


Hmmm...

Greetings and salutations indeed. Anyone born on Sept 16th here?

;-)
Boris


AlunFoto wrote:
 


Hope I've got the date right: Happy birthday Dave!
 


Cheers,
   


Jostein

 


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Re: PESO - Ladies' Night Out

[Jack Davis]

Really great catch, Frank. What a happy couple!!

Jack

--- On Mon, 9/28/09, frank theriault  wrote:

> From: frank theriault 
> Subject: PESO - Ladies' Night Out
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Monday, September 28, 2009, 5:51 PM
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/09/ladies-evening-out.html
> 
> A couple of friends enjoying an outing on a mild evening.
> 
> Hope you enjoy.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
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Re: More Bike race photos

[Stan Halpin]

I'll provide a contrarian view. I've seen hundreds of bike races. I've  
seen thousands of bike race photos. Many of them my own. They pretty  
much all look the same. (The occasional exception stands out like the  
John Francis shot from the Tour of CA from last (?) year.)


Your second set looks like pretty much what everyone else does. The  
first set is quite special. Even though it was a salvage job.
I can't imagine anyone wanting to review an entire race (or heavens'  
forbid a day of racing!)  from this type of image, but everyone else  
who has a P&S or a cellphone has those record shots. I say these were  
a good save, made even better by the fact that the base images were  
well composed to begin with.


BTW, for those who object to bike helmets or spandex or race jerseys  
or sponsor advertising or any of the other accouterments of modern  
bike racing, it is hard to imagine how you would be able to find any  
bike racing shot to be to your liking...


stan

On Sep 27, 2009, at 4:13 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:


http://www.robertstech.com/blog/photos/gallery16/


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Re: Dirt(?) inside my *ist DL/camera bag recommendation

[Bob Sullivan]

Dennis,
You have dust on your sensor, at least 3 spots, probably got it changing lenses.
Try one of those big Atomic/Rocket blowers.
Use the menu and instruction manual to open the mirror and shutter.
While it's open, try to blow the dust off.
If you can't, visit a camera tech and get a $30 cleaning.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Dennis Gibson  wrote:
> Hi - I'm new to the group. About 35 years ago I learned photography using a
> Spotmatic and fell in love with it. A number of years later when I decided
> to buy an SLR I remembered how much I'd liked the Spotmatic and bought a
> chrome MX and an M-series 50mm f/1.4. Over the years I've bought quite a few
> K-mount bodies and quite a few lenses. My favorite is my black MX. It has a
> minor problem that I'm willing to live with because I almost never shoot
> film anymore. The counter doesn't always reset to zero. That has to be the
> most beautiful camera I have ever seen.
>
> Three years ago I decided to get a digital SLR so I bought a * ist DL and
> the kit lens, mostly because of the lens compatibility. I've been very
> pleased with it. However I think something got inside of it while changing
> lenses. For quite some time there have been some spots in the photos that
> shouldn't be there. It's easily seen here:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/dcgibson55/3663886483/in/set-72157620514334411
>
> It's almost half way up the first tower then another bigger one inbetwen the
> first two towers near the bottom. When I try to fix something it almost
> always leads to disaster. Is this something that's easily dealt with? If so
> I may sell it and step up to a K100D; one is available in mint condition for
> what I consider to be a very good price. I'd like to have a digital SLR body
> with image stabilization. My niece has a K100D and it seems very nice.
>
> While looking at bags at Best Buy recently I found a nice Lowepro (all of my
> bags are Lowepro) that was being blown out too cheap ($12.99) to pass up so
> I bought two even though I wasn't sure what I'd put in one. It's the EX 140
> and isn't in this year's catalog. I did some experimentation and found that
> I can lay my *ist DL on its back with the kit lens and hood on and the
> height is perfect. There's a teeny bit of wiggle room on the bottom but
> that's easily remedied. Two of the usual Lowepro Velcro type dividers are
> included. There's a front compartment and either my Pentax-FA 28-90mm or
> Tamron 75-300mm will fit in there. It's a bit snug with the Tamron but it
> fits.
>
> Speaking of the FA 28-90mm I am underwhelmed with mine both optically and
> build quality wise. Fortunately I didn't pay very much for it. I need to
> figure out how to use my Vivitar Series 1 28-90mm on it. That's a great
> lens.
>
> I am contemplating selling some of my film bodies and lenses that don't get
> used anymore. I live in a very expensive area and my wife passed away from
> cancer two months ago. We just barely got by with two incomes and now
> there's only one. The bodies would likely be an SFXn (European version of
> the SF1n), Chinese K1000, P30T and a chrome MX (the one referred to
> previously) that needs the foam replaced. The lenses might be M-series
> primes such as the 135, 150 and 200mm and there might be some nice
> aftermarket K/A zooms. I haven't decided exactly what I'll let go of yet.
> Actually there is one I'm sure about; the non SMC Takumar bayonet 135mm
> f/2.5. I was never happy with its sharpness or contrast. The M-series 135mm
> f/3.5 is much better. If there's any interest please write me directly.
>
> Dennis
> Santa Barbara, CA
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Re: Dirt(?) inside my *ist DL/camera bag recommendation

[Adam Maas]

Dennis,

You have a pretty clear case of sensor dust going, I'd recommend
getting the Pentax sensor cleaning kit and giving your sensor a good
wipe with it. The Pentax kit is one of the better ones on the market.
As the DL lacks an anti-dust system, it will need periodic sensor
cleaning.

-Adam

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Dennis Gibson  wrote:
> Hi - I'm new to the group. About 35 years ago I learned photography using a
> Spotmatic and fell in love with it. A number of years later when I decided
> to buy an SLR I remembered how much I'd liked the Spotmatic and bought a
> chrome MX and an M-series 50mm f/1.4. Over the years I've bought quite a few
> K-mount bodies and quite a few lenses. My favorite is my black MX. It has a
> minor problem that I'm willing to live with because I almost never shoot
> film anymore. The counter doesn't always reset to zero. That has to be the
> most beautiful camera I have ever seen.
>
> Three years ago I decided to get a digital SLR so I bought a * ist DL and
> the kit lens, mostly because of the lens compatibility. I've been very
> pleased with it. However I think something got inside of it while changing
> lenses. For quite some time there have been some spots in the photos that
> shouldn't be there. It's easily seen here:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/dcgibson55/3663886483/in/set-72157620514334411
>
> It's almost half way up the first tower then another bigger one inbetwen the
> first two towers near the bottom. When I try to fix something it almost
> always leads to disaster. Is this something that's easily dealt with? If so
> I may sell it and step up to a K100D; one is available in mint condition for
> what I consider to be a very good price. I'd like to have a digital SLR body
> with image stabilization. My niece has a K100D and it seems very nice.
>
> While looking at bags at Best Buy recently I found a nice Lowepro (all of my
> bags are Lowepro) that was being blown out too cheap ($12.99) to pass up so
> I bought two even though I wasn't sure what I'd put in one. It's the EX 140
> and isn't in this year's catalog. I did some experimentation and found that
> I can lay my *ist DL on its back with the kit lens and hood on and the
> height is perfect. There's a teeny bit of wiggle room on the bottom but
> that's easily remedied. Two of the usual Lowepro Velcro type dividers are
> included. There's a front compartment and either my Pentax-FA 28-90mm or
> Tamron 75-300mm will fit in there. It's a bit snug with the Tamron but it
> fits.
>
> Speaking of the FA 28-90mm I am underwhelmed with mine both optically and
> build quality wise. Fortunately I didn't pay very much for it. I need to
> figure out how to use my Vivitar Series 1 28-90mm on it. That's a great
> lens.
>
> I am contemplating selling some of my film bodies and lenses that don't get
> used anymore. I live in a very expensive area and my wife passed away from
> cancer two months ago. We just barely got by with two incomes and now
> there's only one. The bodies would likely be an SFXn (European version of
> the SF1n), Chinese K1000, P30T and a chrome MX (the one referred to
> previously) that needs the foam replaced. The lenses might be M-series
> primes such as the 135, 150 and 200mm and there might be some nice
> aftermarket K/A zooms. I haven't decided exactly what I'll let go of yet.
> Actually there is one I'm sure about; the non SMC Takumar bayonet 135mm
> f/2.5. I was never happy with its sharpness or contrast. The M-series 135mm
> f/3.5 is much better. If there's any interest please write me directly.
>
> Dennis
> Santa Barbara, CA
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Re: PESO - Burn Notice

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:27 PM,   wrote:
> One more PESO before I go to a GESO of my trip  (since most were pretty
> ordinary shots -- I am out of practice not having done  photography for eight
> months or more).
>
> This is probably the most  interesting one I got on my trip.
>
> The Olympic National Forest  (Washington) was beautiful, but so was the
> Willamette National Forest (Oregon).  Until, that is, I got to a heavily 
> burned
> out section around sunset. I know some  believe fires are good for thinning
> out forests, well, most of this was not  thinned out but completely burned.
>
> It was very sad.
>
> A day later,  while I was in Medford, the whole Rogue River Valley filled
> with smoke from a  big fire around the Crater Lake area. According to the
> Medford newspaper today  (online) it is still very smoky and residents are
> advised to avoid breathing it.  Oregon and California keep getting too little
> rain and keep being too  dry...
>
> http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/notice.htm
>
> Comments,  welcome.

You've captured a starkly beautiful image, Marnie.

Lovely (if sad).

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Re: Anyone hear from Bong ?

[Bob Sullivan]

Bong,
Stay safe.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Bong Manayon  wrote:
> Thanks everyone.  Besides being on high ground, I decided to sleep-in
> that day and got lazy to do errands and missed being stranded or
> trapped somewhere.  Had friends shelter in while waiting for roads to
> be passable.
>
> Heard there's another one coming ... :-|
>
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 4:47 AM, Luiz Felipe  
> wrote:
>> Nice to read that you're ok, Bong. Sad others didn't have the same luck...
>> :-(
>>
>> lf
>>
>> Bong Manayon escreveu:
>>>
>>> High and dry.  My house is in an area that was an island surrounded by
>>> rushing waters; but I knew a lot of people who lost their house and
>>> survived sitting out the storm on their roof.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Ann.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 6:43 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

 looking at the news and the floods in Manilla

 ann


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Dirt(?) inside my *ist DL/camera bag recommendation

[Dennis Gibson]

Hi - I'm new to the group. About 35 years ago I learned photography using a 
Spotmatic and fell in love with it. A number of years later when I decided 
to buy an SLR I remembered how much I'd liked the Spotmatic and bought a 
chrome MX and an M-series 50mm f/1.4. Over the years I've bought quite a few 
K-mount bodies and quite a few lenses. My favorite is my black MX. It has a 
minor problem that I'm willing to live with because I almost never shoot 
film anymore. The counter doesn't always reset to zero. That has to be the 
most beautiful camera I have ever seen.


Three years ago I decided to get a digital SLR so I bought a * ist DL and 
the kit lens, mostly because of the lens compatibility. I've been very 
pleased with it. However I think something got inside of it while changing 
lenses. For quite some time there have been some spots in the photos that 
shouldn't be there. It's easily seen here:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/dcgibson55/3663886483/in/set-72157620514334411

It's almost half way up the first tower then another bigger one inbetwen the 
first two towers near the bottom. When I try to fix something it almost 
always leads to disaster. Is this something that's easily dealt with? If so 
I may sell it and step up to a K100D; one is available in mint condition for 
what I consider to be a very good price. I'd like to have a digital SLR body 
with image stabilization. My niece has a K100D and it seems very nice.


While looking at bags at Best Buy recently I found a nice Lowepro (all of my 
bags are Lowepro) that was being blown out too cheap ($12.99) to pass up so 
I bought two even though I wasn't sure what I'd put in one. It's the EX 140 
and isn't in this year's catalog. I did some experimentation and found that 
I can lay my *ist DL on its back with the kit lens and hood on and the 
height is perfect. There's a teeny bit of wiggle room on the bottom but 
that's easily remedied. Two of the usual Lowepro Velcro type dividers are 
included. There's a front compartment and either my Pentax-FA 28-90mm or 
Tamron 75-300mm will fit in there. It's a bit snug with the Tamron but it 
fits.


Speaking of the FA 28-90mm I am underwhelmed with mine both optically and 
build quality wise. Fortunately I didn't pay very much for it. I need to 
figure out how to use my Vivitar Series 1 28-90mm on it. That's a great 
lens.


I am contemplating selling some of my film bodies and lenses that don't get 
used anymore. I live in a very expensive area and my wife passed away from 
cancer two months ago. We just barely got by with two incomes and now 
there's only one. The bodies would likely be an SFXn (European version of 
the SF1n), Chinese K1000, P30T and a chrome MX (the one referred to 
previously) that needs the foam replaced. The lenses might be M-series 
primes such as the 135, 150 and 200mm and there might be some nice 
aftermarket K/A zooms. I haven't decided exactly what I'll let go of yet. 
Actually there is one I'm sure about; the non SMC Takumar bayonet 135mm 
f/2.5. I was never happy with its sharpness or contrast. The M-series 135mm 
f/3.5 is much better. If there's any interest please write me directly.


Dennis
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Re: OT - Afghanistan by motorcycle

[Subash]

On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:46:16 -0400
Mark Roberts  wrote:


> >> Have you read "A Short Walk in the Hundu Kush"?
> >
> >Of course! It has the best put-down of all time, from barking mad
> >Thesiger.
> 
> Yes! One of my all-time favorite book endings!

i am dropping in at the local bookshop today on the way back from
work :)

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Re: PESO - Burn Notice

[Anthony Farr]

Burnt forest is never pretty.  Sometimes the control burns have to be
done in less than ideal conditions.  If It's too hot and dry or windy
the fire burns too hot, not cool and controllable which just skims
away the dried litter on the forest floor and barely singes anything
else.  But sometimes ideal conditions never present themselves and the
alternative, to leave the forest unburned and overburdened with fuel
in mid-summer, is just too dangerous.

I've seen and photographed the aftermath of fire that's caused total
destruction to all living matter, to a depth of above a foot.  That's
to say, all life in the soil, plus the fire germinated seeds of
potential new life, was incinerated completely.  Nothing was left, not
even a stump, and a whole crew of firefighters had also been lost.
Even the ash had been carried away by the convection of the fire,
leaving a bare, black wasteland.  That's the sort of fire damage you
never want to see.

That's a nice calm and moody shot of the area you mentioned, and shows
that only the foliage was stripped away by the flames, it must have
been very dry and was removed quickly.  Those bare trunks will recover
in months, and the forest was protected from loss.  It's unlucky that
you didn't get that uninterrupted vista of green on your visit,
nevertheless you've made a good record of one part of the cycle of
life in the forest.

regards, Anthony

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2009/9/29  :
> One more PESO before I go to a GESO of my trip  (since most were pretty
> ordinary shots -- I am out of practice not having done  photography for eight
> months or more).
>
> This is probably the most  interesting one I got on my trip.
>
> The Olympic National Forest  (Washington) was beautiful, but so was the
> Willamette National Forest (Oregon).  Until, that is, I got to a heavily 
> burned
> out section around sunset. I know some  believe fires are good for thinning
> out forests, well, most of this was not  thinned out but completely burned.
>
> It was very sad.
>
> A day later,  while I was in Medford, the whole Rogue River Valley filled
> with smoke from a  big fire around the Crater Lake area. According to the
> Medford newspaper today  (online) it is still very smoky and residents are
> advised to avoid breathing it.  Oregon and California keep getting too little
> rain and keep being too  dry...
>
> http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/notice.htm
>
> Comments,  welcome.
>
> Marnie aka Doe
>
> -
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> created them. Albert Einstein
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Re: PESO - Burn Notice

[Adam Maas]

That looks a lot like Jack Pine, which needs the fire to germinate
seeds for new trees. So ugly as it is the fire was likely a good thing
for the forest.

-Adam

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:27 PM,   wrote:
> One more PESO before I go to a GESO of my trip  (since most were pretty
> ordinary shots -- I am out of practice not having done  photography for eight
> months or more).
>
> This is probably the most  interesting one I got on my trip.
>
> The Olympic National Forest  (Washington) was beautiful, but so was the
> Willamette National Forest (Oregon).  Until, that is, I got to a heavily 
> burned
> out section around sunset. I know some  believe fires are good for thinning
> out forests, well, most of this was not  thinned out but completely burned.
>
> It was very sad.
>
> A day later,  while I was in Medford, the whole Rogue River Valley filled
> with smoke from a  big fire around the Crater Lake area. According to the
> Medford newspaper today  (online) it is still very smoky and residents are
> advised to avoid breathing it.  Oregon and California keep getting too little
> rain and keep being too  dry...
>
> http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/notice.htm
>
> Comments,  welcome.
>
> Marnie aka Doe
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Re: OT - Afghanistan by motorcycle

[Subash]

On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:31:29 +0100
"Bob W"  wrote:

> > 
> > > Mad bastards.
> > 
> > http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=497143
> > 
> > :-)
> 
> I'm going to do that, and more, someday. But I won't have an engine
> on my bike.

we are attempting something on a smaller/higher scale next summer
albeit for just three weeks. eight of us are planning to do first the
manali-leh highway (475 km, goes through five high altitude passes four
of which are above 16000 ft) and then interior ladakh itself on MTBs.
we've bought the cycles (i've personally bought the cannondale f9 one
of the cheapest entry-level mtbs but which has set my bank balance by
quiet a bit ;-)). the training has started and hopefully we can pull it
off. perhaps bigger, longer things await. someday. :)

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Re: OT - large format finagling

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 1:07 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> If you're going to sink that much money into it, you ought to go ahead and
> get the the V750-M Pro. It has better B&W negative capability.

My earlier response was presuming that Scott would scan the prints not
having a scanner capable of doing the negs. Of course, if you have a
transparency scanner that's capable, do the negs.

I have the V700 and tested it against the V750 prior to buying it. I
found nothing different about the capabilities between the two unless
you want to wet-scan for damaged large format transparencies.

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Re: PESO - Ladies' Night Out

[paul stenquist]

Nice. They're both smiling!
Paul
On Sep 28, 2009, at 8:51 PM, frank theriault wrote:


http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/09/ladies-evening-out.html

A couple of friends enjoying an outing on a mild evening.

Hope you enjoy.

cheers,
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PESO - Ladies' Night Out

[frank theriault]

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/09/ladies-evening-out.html

A couple of friends enjoying an outing on a mild evening.

Hope you enjoy.

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Re: The M9 is a bargain!

[paul stenquist]

On Sep 28, 2009, at 2:30 PM, Bob W wrote:


Cheap guy as I am, I'll at least wait for used, well brassed
M9s to be available before I get one. In the meantime, I will
most probably get an EP-1 (or more likely, a Panasonic GF-1)
and a K mount adaptor.

I only got my M8 because someone was nice enough to buy a
whole bunch of prints from me at once. Otherwise, I'd still
be shooting the K10D exclusively.

Juan (and others), be aware that the K-7 is much quieter than
any other Pentax DSLR so far (*istD included), and quieter
than any other DSLR I've been able to compare it to.
I've been shooting a theater performance and all other
photographers were envious of its subdued click. That hasn't
been stressed enough by Pentax when introducing the K-7 and I
think of that as the main improvement over the K20D.



Have you compared it with an Olympus E-1, which is the quietest SLR  
I have

ever used? It seems to me to be as quiet as a film Leica M. Certainly
quieter than the M8, but I don't think it's quieter than the M9.

I compared my K7 to a friend's E-1. It was a close call, but we both  
agreed the K7 was a bit quieter.

Paul

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Re: The M9 is a bargain!

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On Sep 28, 2009, at 2:30 PM, Bob W wrote:


Cheap guy as I am, I'll at least wait for used, well brassed
M9s to be available before I get one. In the meantime, I will
most probably get an EP-1 (or more likely, a Panasonic GF-1)
and a K mount adaptor.

I only got my M8 because someone was nice enough to buy a
whole bunch of prints from me at once. Otherwise, I'd still
be shooting the K10D exclusively.

Juan (and others), be aware that the K-7 is much quieter than
any other Pentax DSLR so far (*istD included), and quieter
than any other DSLR I've been able to compare it to.
I've been shooting a theater performance and all other
photographers were envious of its subdued click. That hasn't
been stressed enough by Pentax when introducing the K-7 and I
think of that as the main improvement over the K20D.



Have you compared it with an Olympus E-1, which is the quietest SLR  
I have

ever used? It seems to me to be as quiet as a film Leica M. Certainly
quieter than the M8, but I don't think it's quieter than the M9.

Bob


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Re: Dave Brooks' day

[Bong Manayon]

How many here have their birthdays in September (I'm in the 6th)?

Happy Birthday, Dave, John ... and Boris?

Bong

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:42 AM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> I was born on Sept 18th if that helps.
>
> From: Boris Liberman
>>
>> Hmmm...
>>
>> Greetings and salutations indeed. Anyone born on Sept 16th here?
>>
>>  ;-)
>> Boris
>>
>>
>> AlunFoto wrote:
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>>> > Hope I've got the date right: Happy birthday Dave!
>>> > > Cheers,
>>> > Jostein
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Re: Happy Birthday Marnie!

[Bong Manayon]

Happy birthday! :-)

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 10:07 PM, paul stenquist
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> One of the lovely ladies of the list is having a birthday today.
> Congratulations!
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Re: PESO - Prim and Proper

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:07 AM, P. J. Alling
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>
> Calm down Christian, it's Toronto, not Rome.

A fact that I'm sure pleases Romans...

;-)

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Re: The M9 is a bargain!

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On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Tim Bray  wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:29 AM, Juan Buhler  wrote:
>> Cheap guy as I am, I'll at least wait for used, well brassed M9s to be
>> available before I get one. In the meantime, I will most probably get
>> an EP-1 (or more likely, a Panasonic GF-1)
>
> The EP-1 has lousy autofocus.  The GF-1 doesn't have in-body
> stabilization. If you want a µ4/3, seems like we're one camera away
> from the one to get.

I don't care much about IS in general. For when it's useful to me,
Panasonic has OIS in the right lenses. I'm very happy with what I get
out of the G1, and the GF1 will give me the compact I've been looking
for.

But I'd like an M9 anyway. Some day! ];-)
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Re: Pentax's naming system

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It's even confusing PPG; just had a look at Pentax KM (PPG > Image
Data > Camera Models) and saw shots taken with the K-m mixed in
there...

On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 4:35 AM, John Celio  wrote:
> So I was thinking about the K-x the other night while taking photos of my
> 1.5 year old nephew trying to drink from his dad's empty bottle of Mike's
> Hard Lemonade, when it occurred to me that the door is open for Pentax to
> bring back all sorts of past model names for their future dSLRs.
>
> The K-m and K-x, as we all know, reference the KM and KX from the days of
> yore, so what's to stop Pentax from making, say, a K-mx (retaining the "K-"
> to fit with the current naming standard).  It could be the small, manual,
> barebones and super simple camera that many oldtimers yearn for.  Then, if
> you put in most of the full-auto features (including a very basic autofocus
> system) in the same small body, you'd have something one might call a K-me
> or K-zx.  Make a larger, semi-pro model that has interchangeable viewfinders
> and other accessories and call it the K-lx, make a fat & ugly model and call
> it the K-sfx, and make one that takes film and call it the K-istD (just for
> irony's sake).
>
> None of these things will ever happen, of course, but it's fun to think
> about.
>
> John
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Re: Anyone hear from Bong ?

[Bong Manayon]

Thanks everyone.  Besides being on high ground, I decided to sleep-in
that day and got lazy to do errands and missed being stranded or
trapped somewhere.  Had friends shelter in while waiting for roads to
be passable.

Heard there's another one coming ... :-|

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 4:47 AM, Luiz Felipe  wrote:
> Nice to read that you're ok, Bong. Sad others didn't have the same luck...
> :-(
>
> lf
>
> Bong Manayon escreveu:
>>
>> High and dry.  My house is in an area that was an island surrounded by
>> rushing waters; but I knew a lot of people who lost their house and
>> survived sitting out the storm on their roof.
>>
>> Thanks, Ann.
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 6:43 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>>>
>>> looking at the news and the floods in Manilla
>>>
>>> ann
>>>
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Re: The M9 is a bargain!

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Bob W  wrote:
>> Juan (and others), be aware that the K-7 is much quieter than
>> any other Pentax DSLR so far (*istD included), and quieter
>> than any other DSLR I've been able to compare it to.
>> I've been shooting a theater performance and all other
>> photographers were envious of its subdued click. That hasn't
>> been stressed enough by Pentax when introducing the K-7 and I
>> think of that as the main improvement over the K20D.
>>
>
> Have you compared it with an Olympus E-1, which is the quietest SLR I have
> ever used? It seems to me to be as quiet as a film Leica M. Certainly
> quieter than the M8, but I don't think it's quieter than the M9.

I saw Sasha's K7 a couple of weeks ago. It's much quieter than K10D or
*ist DS, but it isn' as quiet as an E-1. The E-1 is very special in
this regard.

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Blues GESO- Paul Rishell & Annie Rains

[Michael Beacom]

Pictures of a top drawer Blues duo, in a tiny venue- Archie's  
Barbershop. (http://www.acousticblues.com/)
There were something like 30 or 40 people- just about all the place  
can comfortably hold.
All told, a great evening. I hope I was able to capture some of the  
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/62343...@n00/sets/72157622467532792/

Comments and criticism are welcome.

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Re: Dave Brooks' day

[Tim Øsleby]

2009/9/28 Bob Sullivan :
> Happy Birthday Dave, Dave, Marnie, and Boris too!    Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:44 AM,   wrote:
>> In a message dated 9/28/2009 9:15:47 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,
>> gldnbearz.p...@gmail.com writes:
>> Happy birthday Dave  & Dave!
>>
>> ===
>> Okay, I missed one Dave.
>>
>> Happy  BDay, other Dave!
>>
>> And Boris too. :-)
>>
>> Marnie
>>

Boris to? I missed that one.
Happy birthday Boris.

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Re: OT: What I have been doing the last year

[Walter Hamler]

Sitting in my closet!  :-)

Walt

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 7:22 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> Congrat's Walter.
>
> Were is you hat.:-)
>
> Dave

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Re: PESO: Blue & white (cliché alert)

[paul stenquist]

On Sep 28, 2009, at 3:36 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:


In a message dated 9/28/2009 10:03:11 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,
tb...@textuality.com writes:
I'm afraid these are  sunlit blossoms with dark backgrounds, one with
dapples for maximum cliché  value.
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2009/09/27/Blue-and-White

-T



I like them both. The morning glory is particularly nice. Dramatic  
composition.

Paul



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RE: T: What I have been doing the last year

[John Sessoms]

From: Walter Hamler

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/?action=view¤t=AstrologArticle.jpg

This is my latest creation, a novel that has been floating around in
my head for 10 or 15 years. Last June I decided to write it and it
grew to four volumes that Amazon is now featuring as a compilation of
all four.
If you are so inclined to order and read, the author would be
grateful. I would also like any feedback. Be honest!   :-) 


Walt


Way to go.

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Re: PESO: Blue & white (cliché alert)

[Sasha Sobol]

The blue one is really cool - both comp and tones.
--Sasha

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 2:54 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> Hi Tim
>
> Going with the flow here, and say i like the second one over the first.
>
> Dave
>
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Tim Bray  wrote:
>> I'm afraid these are sunlit blossoms with dark backgrounds, one with
>> dapples for maximum cliché value.
>> http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2009/09/27/Blue-and-White
>>
>>  -T
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Re: OT: What I have been doing the last year

[David J Brooks]

Congrat's Walter.

Were is you hat.:-)

Dave

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Walter Hamler  wrote:
> http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/?action=view¤t=AstrologArticle.jpg
>
> This is my latest creation, a novel that has been floating around in
> my head for 10 or 15 years. Last June I decided to write it and it
> grew to four volumes that Amazon is now featuring as a compilation of
> all four.
> If you are so inclined to order and read, the author would be
> grateful. I would also like any feedback. Be honest!  :-)
>
> Walt
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Re: Happy Birthday Marnie!

[Desjardins, Steve]

Yo, Dudette, made it through another year.  As Mark Twain pointed out,  
getting older beats the alternative.

Steve Desjardins

On Sep 28, 2009, at 3:18 PM, "eactiv...@aol.com"   
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> In a message dated 9/28/2009 11:55:23 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,
> maritim...@gmail.com writes:
> 2009/9/28   :
>> In a message dated 9/28/2009 7:07:38  A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,
>> pnstenqu...@comcast.net  writes:
>> One of the lovely  ladies of the list is having a birthday  today.
>> Congratulations!
>>
>> ===
>> Actually  it's tomorrow. But, close  enough.
>>
>
> Many happy  tomorrows.
>
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> =
> Thanks, Tim, and  Ecke.
>
> Marnie aka Doe  :-)
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Re: peso - Brittany

[Sasha Sobol]

Frank, Boris, William - thanks!

--Sasha

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 1:50 AM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> Amazingly enough these are two completely different pictures... I vote for
> b/w.
>
> Boris
>
>
> Sasha Sobol wrote:
>>
>> I need your advice - color or bw?
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/3864313344/in/set-72157622040375943/
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/3864310112/in/set-72157622040375943/
>>
>> The full set (small):
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/sets/72157622040375943/
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --Sasha
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Re: OT: What I have been doing the last year

[Walter Hamler]

Much appreciated!
Here is a link to my friends website where he describes the various
routes to self-publishing.
http://www.self-publishing-solutions.com/index.html

I followed his directions to a "T" and it went very smoothly. The
interface at the CreateSpace website is very easy and they are FAST!

Walt

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 6:51 PM, paul stenquist  wrote:
> I place my order. Sounds like a good story.  i look forward to reading it.
> Paul
> On Sep 28, 2009, at 6:33 PM, Walter Hamler wrote:
>
>> Thanks Paul!

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Re: OT: What I have been doing the last year

[paul stenquist]

I place my order. Sounds like a good story.  i look forward to reading  
it.

Paul
On Sep 28, 2009, at 6:33 PM, Walter Hamler wrote:


Thanks Paul!

It is self published through the CreateSpace website that Amazon runs.
I was pointed to it by a friend who has published several books with
them.
I tried Blurb but their books really are expensive for a novel format.

Walt

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 6:22 PM, paul stenquist > wrote:

Congratulations! That's quite an achievement.
Did you secure an agent and conventional publisher or did you self  
publish?

It seems most books are self published these day, including some best
sellers.
Paul
On Sep 28, 2009, at 6:14 PM, Walter Hamler wrote:



http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/?action=view¤t=AstrologArticle.jpg

This is my latest creation, a novel that has been floating around in
my head for 10 or 15 years. Last June I decided to write it and it
grew to four volumes that Amazon is now featuring as a compilation  
of

all four.
If you are so inclined to order and read, the author would be
grateful. I would also like any feedback. Be honest!  :-)

Walt

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Re: OT: What I have been doing the last year

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Thanks, good to know.
I have a novel on the shelf, but couldn't even find an agent who was  
willing to read it. The traditional route seems almost impossible to  
negotiate.

Paul
On Sep 28, 2009, at 6:33 PM, Walter Hamler wrote:


Thanks Paul!

It is self published through the CreateSpace website that Amazon runs.
I was pointed to it by a friend who has published several books with
them.
I tried Blurb but their books really are expensive for a novel format.

Walt

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 6:22 PM, paul stenquist > wrote:

Congratulations! That's quite an achievement.
Did you secure an agent and conventional publisher or did you self  
publish?

It seems most books are self published these day, including some best
sellers.
Paul
On Sep 28, 2009, at 6:14 PM, Walter Hamler wrote:



http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/?action=view¤t=AstrologArticle.jpg

This is my latest creation, a novel that has been floating around in
my head for 10 or 15 years. Last June I decided to write it and it
grew to four volumes that Amazon is now featuring as a compilation  
of

all four.
If you are so inclined to order and read, the author would be
grateful. I would also like any feedback. Be honest!  :-)

Walt

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Re: OT: What I have been doing the last year

[Walter Hamler]

Thanks Paul!

It is self published through the CreateSpace website that Amazon runs.
I was pointed to it by a friend who has published several books with
them.
I tried Blurb but their books really are expensive for a novel format.

Walt

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> Congratulations! That's quite an achievement.
> Did you secure an agent and conventional publisher or did you self publish?
> It seems most books are self published these day, including some best
> sellers.
> Paul
> On Sep 28, 2009, at 6:14 PM, Walter Hamler wrote:
>
>>
>> http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/?action=view¤t=AstrologArticle.jpg
>>
>> This is my latest creation, a novel that has been floating around in
>> my head for 10 or 15 years. Last June I decided to write it and it
>> grew to four volumes that Amazon is now featuring as a compilation of
>> all four.
>> If you are so inclined to order and read, the author would be
>> grateful. I would also like any feedback. Be honest!  :-)
>>
>> Walt
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Re: OT: What I have been doing the last year

[paul stenquist]

Congratulations! That's quite an achievement.
Did you secure an agent and conventional publisher or did you self  
publish? It seems most books are self published these day, including  
some best sellers.

Paul
On Sep 28, 2009, at 6:14 PM, Walter Hamler wrote:


http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/?action=view¤t=AstrologArticle.jpg

This is my latest creation, a novel that has been floating around in
my head for 10 or 15 years. Last June I decided to write it and it
grew to four volumes that Amazon is now featuring as a compilation of
all four.
If you are so inclined to order and read, the author would be
grateful. I would also like any feedback. Be honest!  :-)

Walt

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Re: OT - large format finagling

[John Sessoms]

From: Cotty

On 28/9/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:

>> You know what they say, big camera, little..!

>
>http://i.ehow.com/images/GlobalPhoto/Articles/4570177/63696-main_Full.jpg


LOL

Touche.

Actually my [camera] is bigger than that!!  :-( 


I didn't think to just follow the link in your sig line the first time, 
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OT: What I have been doing the last year

[Walter Hamler]

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/?action=view¤t=AstrologArticle.jpg

This is my latest creation, a novel that has been floating around in
my head for 10 or 15 years. Last June I decided to write it and it
grew to four volumes that Amazon is now featuring as a compilation of
all four.
If you are so inclined to order and read, the author would be
grateful. I would also like any feedback. Be honest!  :-)

Walt

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Re: Oh boy........

[David J Brooks]

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Scott Loveless  wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:52 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>> I've been asked by my Nephew and his fiance if i would like to do the
>> wedding photos.
>>
>> Any one want to talk me out of it, go now. If not, the standard tips
>> would be helpful.
>
> If you do it, pretend you're shooting film.  Decide on the number of
> exposures before you get there.  Coming home after the reception only
> to find that you now have to wade through 1200 pictures is good way
> completely ruin a mostly bad day.

I was thinking 300-500 frames. May be a good excuse to buy that
Stroboframe i always wanted, oh, and that extra SB800.:-)

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Re: Oh boy........

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On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 1:48 PM, William Robb  wrote:
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> - Original Message - From: "David J Brooks" Sent: Monday, September
> 28, 2009 10:52 AM
> Subject: Oh boy
>
>
>> Seems like the whole fam damily is getting married in 2010. Not a big
>> deal as long as the three weddings are not on the same day.
>>
>> We are talking Simposn's here, so who knows.:-0
>>
>> I've been asked by my Nephew and his fiance if i would like to do the
>> wedding photos. I'm sure its something i can handle, but i;'m mulling
>> it. As long as they don't want back lit, 30" moon exposures etc, i'm
>> sure i will be fine. How ever the anxiety is already setting in, i'm
>> sure YKWIM., They really liked the family portriat stuff i did this
>> past August.
>>
>> Any one want to talk me out of it, go now. If not, the standard tips
>> would be helpful.
>
> Wow, what a thing to get dumped on you an your birthday.
> I hope it's a good day otherwise.
>
> William Robb

How true. but this type of thing usually happens to me on the birthday.
Yes it was a good day regardless.:-)

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Re: PESO: Blue & white (cliché alert)

[David J Brooks]

Hi Tim

Going with the flow here, and say i like the second one over the first.

Dave

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> I'm afraid these are sunlit blossoms with dark backgrounds, one with
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> http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2009/09/27/Blue-and-White
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Re: PESO - Burn Notice

[David J Brooks]

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:27 PM,   wrote:

> http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/notice.htm
>
> Comments,  welcome.
>
> Marnie aka Doe

Very nice shot. I like the bit of sunset in it. Sad to see these burn,
but they do spring forth with new life fairly soon.

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Re: Shooting street fairs

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I almost always use a flash when shooting outdoor situations where I  
can't control the angle of the light. The 540 works reasonably well in  
these situations with no diffuser and in high-speed synch mode. Most  
of my playground shots of Grace and her friends are shot with flash  
fill. Without it, the shadows would be far too deep. Since the level  
of flash doesn't come up to ambient anyway, I just shoot full power in  
most situations. For extremely close shots, I'll dial it back a stop.

Paul
On Sep 28, 2009, at 3:52 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


I'm starting to look at my photos from the Folsom Street Fair
yesterday.

I saw a lot of people wandering around with external flashes and a
small diffuser (about the size of the flash) on their camera. I
wondered whether it would do any good in that light. It seemed rather
silly to me.

After going through my shots of the White Rats Experimental Morris,
and seeing all of the problems I had with shade and sun, I think that
I may have to try it myself. Unfortunately, that makes the camera a
lot bigger and more obtrusive. I've also had miserable luck with my
AF-540 in any sort of quirky lighting situation.

I noticed another problem I had with shooting the morris dancers. I
cut off their feet in way too many of the shots, shots where there was
plenty of headroom.

I can see that there's a lot to learn about shooting street fairs, and
it'll take a lot of blown shots to figure it out. It does seem that
playing the numbers by shooting a lot of photos is going to be a key
technique. Another would be to shoot a wider angle than would be
nominal, just so you have room for cropping to make up for the lack of
time to carefully aim, or the lack of ability when "shooting from the
chest".




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Re: Dave Brooks' day

[David J Brooks]

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> Bob W wrote:
>
>>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 10:24 AM, AlunFoto  wrote:
>>> > Hope I've got the date right: Happy birthday Dave!
>>>
>>> Chiming in a bit late, but Happy Birthday, Dave!
>>
>>Is it Dave's birthday? Why didn't anyone mention it?
>
> Probably everyone assumed, as did I, that "Dave Brooks Day" was just a
> traditional Canadian holiday.

Yes that is true, it usually falls a few days before our annual
Federal elections.

Dave
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Re: K-x color envy is ripe

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One should perhaps also point out that the colored models that we will  
get - white, navy and red - will have kit lenses in the same color.
That is not the case for the hundred color combinations available to  
the Japanese.


Bertil


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Re: K-x color envy is ripe

[Bob Sullivan]

A 'Nautica' yellow and black one is calling to me...  Bob S.

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Luiz Felipe  wrote:
> ...also, not every color of grip is available with every color of camera.
> Guess I'm conservative too - I'd get a navy/black myself, failing other
> combinations not available right now.
>
> lf
>
> Bertil Holmberg escreveu:
>>
>> Just had another look at the Japanese K-x color chooser -
>> http://www.camera-pentax.jp/k-x/#/simulator/060103
>> The premier version did not include a lens choice. I thought they would
>> offer colored lenses too but that is not the case.
>>
>> Instead, they include the 40mm limited pancake - and soon - the 43mm F1.9
>> limited too!
>> The standard choices are the 18-55mm, of course, but also a 55-300m lens.
>>
>> The badge says - I love It! - and what else is there to say. Let's hope
>> the color thing comes our ways too.
>>
>> The color ranking page is interesting, the most popular combo is
>> white/black, followed by navy/black and red/black.
>> Rather conservative choices it seems, with hot pink in the 12th place
>> only.
>> However, with the pure black version in the ninth place, it still looks as
>> if they are onto something good.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bertil
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Re: Dave Brooks' day

[Bob Sullivan]

Happy Birthday Dave, Dave, Marnie, and Boris too!Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:44 AM,   wrote:
> In a message dated 9/28/2009 9:15:47 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,
> gldnbearz.p...@gmail.com writes:
> Happy birthday Dave  & Dave!
>
> ===
> Okay, I missed one Dave.
>
> Happy  BDay, other Dave!
>
> And Boris too. :-)
>
> Marnie
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Re: PESO - Burn Notice

[Bob Sullivan]

Marnie,
I had a similar experience with the burned part of Yellowstone NP some
years ago.
It is really not a pretty sight.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 2:27 PM,   wrote:
> One more PESO before I go to a GESO of my trip  (since most were pretty
> ordinary shots -- I am out of practice not having done  photography for eight
> months or more).
>
> This is probably the most  interesting one I got on my trip.
>
> The Olympic National Forest  (Washington) was beautiful, but so was the
> Willamette National Forest (Oregon).  Until, that is, I got to a heavily 
> burned
> out section around sunset. I know some  believe fires are good for thinning
> out forests, well, most of this was not  thinned out but completely burned.
>
> It was very sad.
>
> A day later,  while I was in Medford, the whole Rogue River Valley filled
> with smoke from a  big fire around the Crater Lake area. According to the
> Medford newspaper today  (online) it is still very smoky and residents are
> advised to avoid breathing it.  Oregon and California keep getting too little
> rain and keep being too  dry...
>
> http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/notice.htm
>
> Comments,  welcome.
>
> Marnie aka Doe
>
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> created them. Albert Einstein
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Re: PESO -- Me! Me! Me!

[Bob Sullivan]

Ed,
Fun.  Wish I could see the coach's face.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Ed Keeney  wrote:
> A quick shot from this past weekend...
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/0QAzMPjVv0XfjuUm0sYW7Q?feat=directlink
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> Comments & critiques welcomed...
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Re: PESO - Trees Dark & Light

[Bob Sullivan]

Marnie,
I think I can see a sasquach just off to the right.
Nice forest photo.  Fern in the middle is a good touch.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 9:13 AM,   wrote:
> Another from the Olympic National  Forest.
>
> http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/treesdark.htm
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Re: Anyone hear from Bong ?

[Luiz Felipe]

Nice to read that you're ok, Bong. Sad others didn't have the same 
luck... :-(


lf

Bong Manayon escreveu:

High and dry.  My house is in an area that was an island surrounded by
rushing waters; but I knew a lot of people who lost their house and
survived sitting out the storm on their roof.

Thanks, Ann.

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 6:43 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

looking at the news and the floods in Manilla

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Re: K-x color envy is ripe

[Luiz Felipe]

...also, not every color of grip is available with every color of 
camera. Guess I'm conservative too - I'd get a navy/black myself, 
failing other combinations not available right now.


lf

Bertil Holmberg escreveu:
Just had another look at the Japanese K-x color chooser - 
http://www.camera-pentax.jp/k-x/#/simulator/060103
The premier version did not include a lens choice. I thought they would 
offer colored lenses too but that is not the case.


Instead, they include the 40mm limited pancake - and soon - the 43mm 
F1.9 limited too!

The standard choices are the 18-55mm, of course, but also a 55-300m lens.

The badge says - I love It! - and what else is there to say. Let's hope 
the color thing comes our ways too.


The color ranking page is interesting, the most popular combo is 
white/black, followed by navy/black and red/black.

Rather conservative choices it seems, with hot pink in the 12th place only.
However, with the pure black version in the ninth place, it still looks 
as if they are onto something good.


Regards,
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Re: PESO: Blue & white (cliché alert)

[Luiz Felipe]

I agree.

lf

Tom Cakalic escreveu:

Tim,

The second one of the Morning Glory is really nice.  The direct sun
did not wash it out and I find it to be a somewhat abstract rendering
of a familar subject, which is appealing.

Tom

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Tim Bray  wrote:

I'm afraid these are sunlit blossoms with dark backgrounds, one with
dapples for maximum cliché value.
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2009/09/27/Blue-and-White

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Re: Shooting street fairs

[Luiz Felipe]

Larry, I wonder if choosing manually a diff AF sensor would help with 
the framing. I'm getting the same problem with the Ds, and will try to 
use that to help me point the camera a little lower - I suspect I'm 
using the AF brackets as sights, and maybe using one off the center will 
help. I'm assuming you were using the viewfinder in a "fast" mode - I 
never really managed to shoot from the hip with cameras. I do a lot 
better with a Luger... pity they are very choosy about ammo and can't 
stand wind-blown sand...


lf

Larry Colen escreveu:

I'm starting to look at my photos from the Folsom Street Fair
yesterday.

I saw a lot of people wandering around with external flashes and a
small diffuser (about the size of the flash) on their camera. I
wondered whether it would do any good in that light. It seemed rather
silly to me.

After going through my shots of the White Rats Experimental Morris,
and seeing all of the problems I had with shade and sun, I think that
I may have to try it myself. Unfortunately, that makes the camera a
lot bigger and more obtrusive. I've also had miserable luck with my
AF-540 in any sort of quirky lighting situation.

I noticed another problem I had with shooting the morris dancers. I
cut off their feet in way too many of the shots, shots where there was
plenty of headroom.

I can see that there's a lot to learn about shooting street fairs, and
it'll take a lot of blown shots to figure it out. It does seem that
playing the numbers by shooting a lot of photos is going to be a key
technique. Another would be to shoot a wider angle than would be
nominal, just so you have room for cropping to make up for the lack of
time to carefully aim, or the lack of ability when "shooting from the
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Re: Dave Brooks' day

[Luiz Felipe]

...well, Dave, Happy birthday to you too, a little late. :-)

lf

David Mann escreveu:

On Sep 28, 2009, at 5:50 AM, David J Brooks wrote:


On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Dario Bonazza
 wrote:

No, no, we are early! It's tomorrow! Oh well, the fire has begun...
Dario


Yup its Monday, but close enough.


Mine was Sunday.  They must have had the wrong Dave ;)

Dave

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Re: Dave Brooks' day

[Luiz Felipe]

... so it's monday now, here... Happy Birthday!!!

lf

David J Brooks escreveu:

On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Dario Bonazza
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No, no, we are early! It's tomorrow! Oh well, the fire has begun...
Dario


Yup its Monday, but close enough.

Thksa all.

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Re: Happy Birthday Marnie!

[Luiz Felipe]

Happy birthday!!!

lf

paul stenquist escreveu:
One of the lovely ladies of the list is having a birthday today. 
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Re: OT - large format finagling

[Cotty]

On 28/9/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:

>> You know what they say, big camera, little..!
>
>http://www.seeingeye.tv/pages/eyeshots/eyeshot21.html

Actually it's big camera.little bank balance.

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Re: OT - large format finagling

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On 28/9/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:

>> You know what they say, big camera, little..!
>
>http://i.ehow.com/images/GlobalPhoto/Articles/4570177/63696-main_Full.jpg

LOL

Touche.

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Re: Anbody Wanna Drool?

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K-x color envy is ripe

[Bertil Holmberg]

Just had another look at the Japanese K-x color chooser - 
http://www.camera-pentax.jp/k-x/#/simulator/060103
The premier version did not include a lens choice. I thought they  
would offer colored lenses too but that is not the case.


Instead, they include the 40mm limited pancake - and soon - the 43mm  
F1.9 limited too!
The standard choices are the 18-55mm, of course, but also a 55-300m  
lens.


The badge says - I love It! - and what else is there to say. Let's  
hope the color thing comes our ways too.


The color ranking page is interesting, the most popular combo is white/ 
black, followed by navy/black and red/black.
Rather conservative choices it seems, with hot pink in the 12th place  
only.
However, with the pure black version in the ninth place, it still  
looks as if they are onto something good.


Regards,
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Shooting street fairs

[Larry Colen]

I'm starting to look at my photos from the Folsom Street Fair
yesterday.

I saw a lot of people wandering around with external flashes and a
small diffuser (about the size of the flash) on their camera. I
wondered whether it would do any good in that light. It seemed rather
silly to me.

After going through my shots of the White Rats Experimental Morris,
and seeing all of the problems I had with shade and sun, I think that
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lot bigger and more obtrusive. I've also had miserable luck with my
AF-540 in any sort of quirky lighting situation.

I noticed another problem I had with shooting the morris dancers. I
cut off their feet in way too many of the shots, shots where there was
plenty of headroom.

I can see that there's a lot to learn about shooting street fairs, and
it'll take a lot of blown shots to figure it out. It does seem that
playing the numbers by shooting a lot of photos is going to be a key
technique. Another would be to shoot a wider angle than would be
nominal, just so you have room for cropping to make up for the lack of
time to carefully aim, or the lack of ability when "shooting from the
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Re: PESO - Burn Notice

[Jack Davis]

Nice and very fitting sunset moment. Maybe the fire caused pine cones to burst 
thus scattering the seeds of their next generation and sunlight can now reach 
the forest floor and new growth flourish
Still sad, I agree.
A bit of a nit, but I'd have to take a look at a slightly lightened foreground. 
It needs a somber feel, no question.
Looking forward to your GESO.

Jack

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> From: eactiv...@aol.com 
> Subject: PESO - Burn Notice
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Date: Monday, September 28, 2009, 12:27 PM
> One more PESO before I go to a GESO
> of my trip  (since most were pretty 
> ordinary shots -- I am out of practice not having
> done  photography for eight 
> months or more).
> 
> This is probably the most  interesting one I got on my
> trip.
> 
> The Olympic National Forest  (Washington) was
> beautiful, but so was the 
> Willamette National Forest (Oregon).  Until, that is,
> I got to a heavily burned 
> out section around sunset. I know some  believe fires
> are good for thinning 
> out forests, well, most of this was not  thinned out
> but completely burned.
> 
> It was very sad. 
> 
> A day later,  while I was in Medford, the whole Rogue
> River Valley filled 
> with smoke from a  big fire around the Crater Lake
> area. According to the 
> Medford newspaper today  (online) it is still very
> smoky and residents are 
> advised to avoid breathing it.  Oregon and California
> keep getting too little 
> rain and keep being too  dry...
> 
> http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/notice.htm
> 
> Comments,  welcome.
> 
> Marnie aka Doe  
> 
> -
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> thinking we used when we 
> created them. Albert Einstein   
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Re: PESO - Penny or a Smile

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 9/28/2009 5:45:47 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
knarftheria...@gmail.com writes:
Had a lovely chat  with them and asked if I could pay for a smile and
capture it on  photo.

They readily  agreed:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/09/penny-or-smile.html

Comments  welcome.

cheers,
frank

==
Nice, frank. Though they  look a little too happy to in the position of 
asking for money.

Marnie  aka Doe ;-)

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Re: PESO: Blue & white (cliché alert)

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In a message dated 9/28/2009 10:03:11 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
tb...@textuality.com writes:
I'm afraid these are  sunlit blossoms with dark backgrounds, one with
dapples for maximum cliché  value.
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2009/09/27/Blue-and-White

-T

===
Pretty,  though. The top has too much shadow and light, but the bottom is 
very  nice.

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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Re: PESO - Ferry

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 9/28/2009 7:12:02 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
pentko...@gmail.com writes:
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at  8:51 AM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> On  Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 2:16 PM,   wrote:
>>  Port Angeles, Washington state, the ferry from  there to Victoria,   
Canada.
>>
>>  http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/ferry.htm
>>
>>  Again,  nothing special, comments welcome, and all that...
>
>  Lovely mood  captured.

Agreed.

Dave
>

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Thanks, Dave  (of the many Daves).

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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Re: PESO - Tree Road

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In a message dated 9/28/2009 7:11:32 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
jdavi...@yahoo.com writes:
Very nice scene, Marnie.  Several years ago I took a couple 'common' shots 
in the Hoh Rain Forrest. It was  so dark I should have used a flash, just 
didn't bother. 
At that time I was  told that they receive 'prox 200" average rainfall per  
year.

Jack


Yeah, something like that. Though not sure,  when the rains start, it it's 
quite as rainy these days.

Thanks for the  comments, Jack.

Marnie aka Doe :-) It was pretty, but middle of the day,  lots of light and 
 dark.

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PESO - Burn Notice

[Eactivist]

One more PESO before I go to a GESO of my trip  (since most were pretty 
ordinary shots -- I am out of practice not having done  photography for eight 
months or more).

This is probably the most  interesting one I got on my trip.

The Olympic National Forest  (Washington) was beautiful, but so was the 
Willamette National Forest (Oregon).  Until, that is, I got to a heavily burned 
out section around sunset. I know some  believe fires are good for thinning 
out forests, well, most of this was not  thinned out but completely burned.

It was very sad. 

A day later,  while I was in Medford, the whole Rogue River Valley filled 
with smoke from a  big fire around the Crater Lake area. According to the 
Medford newspaper today  (online) it is still very smoky and residents are 
advised to avoid breathing it.  Oregon and California keep getting too little 
rain and keep being too  dry...

http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/notice.htm

Comments,  welcome.

Marnie aka Doe  

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Re: Happy Birthday Marnie!

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In a message dated 9/28/2009 11:55:23 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
maritim...@gmail.com writes:
2009/9/28   :
> In a message dated 9/28/2009 7:07:38  A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,
> pnstenqu...@comcast.net  writes:
> One of the lovely  ladies of the list is having a birthday  today.
> Congratulations!
>
> ===
> Actually  it's tomorrow. But, close  enough.
>

Many happy  tomorrows.

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Thanks, Tim, and  Ecke.

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Re: Submitted for your input: Experimental bike race photos

[Mark Roberts]

frank theriault wrote:

>7d905614 - leading the pack is a member of Toronto's Cervelo Test Team!
>
>All very cool photos - love the concept and rendering.
>
>Great work in tough conditions.

Thanks for the input, everyone.
I've culled the three weakest shots from the collection. I'm really
very pleased with the rest and I really  am pleased with 7d905610,
7d9053613 and 7d905636.

I should note that if you don't have a fairly high end monitor you
really can't see what these shots look like - the shadow detail just
gets lost. When I edited and posted photos from Annsan's computer last
week I almost didn't recognize them when I got home and saw them on my
monitor. I suppose I should make some prints and get a gallery exhibit
or something so everyone can view them on equal terms...



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Re: Dave Brooks' day

[Mark Roberts]

Bob W wrote:

>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 10:24 AM, AlunFoto  wrote:
>> > Hope I've got the date right: Happy birthday Dave!
>> 
>> Chiming in a bit late, but Happy Birthday, Dave!
>
>Is it Dave's birthday? Why didn't anyone mention it?

Probably everyone assumed, as did I, that "Dave Brooks Day" was just a
traditional Canadian holiday.


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Re: Dave Brooks' day

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Bob W wrote:

On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 10:24 AM, AlunFoto  wrote:


Hope I've got the date right: Happy birthday Dave!

  

Chiming in a bit late, but Happy Birthday, Dave!




Is it Dave's birthday? Why didn't anyone mention it? Happy bidet, mate.

Bob
  

Wait a minute!  Did we somehow get back to your Buttocks?

Oh and by the way, Hippo Birdy Deva.

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Re: Oh boy........

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On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:52 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> I've been asked by my Nephew and his fiance if i would like to do the
> wedding photos.
>
> Any one want to talk me out of it, go now. If not, the standard tips
> would be helpful.

If you do it, pretend you're shooting film.  Decide on the number of
exposures before you get there.  Coming home after the reception only
to find that you now have to wade through 1200 pictures is good way
completely ruin a mostly bad day.

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Re: Dave Brooks' day

[Tim Øsleby]

Hippo day to other Dave to.

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Re: Happy Birthday Marnie!

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2009/9/28  :
> In a message dated 9/28/2009 7:07:38 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,
> pnstenqu...@comcast.net writes:
> One of the lovely  ladies of the list is having a birthday today.
> Congratulations!
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Re: Happy Birthday Marnie!

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Happy Birthday Doe =)
Cheers
Ecke

2009/9/28 paul stenquist :
> One of the lovely ladies of the list is having a birthday today.
> Congratulations!
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Re: OT - Afghanistan by motorcycle

[Mark Roberts]

Bob W wrote:

>> >> 
>> >> > Mad bastards.
>> >> 
>> >> http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=497143
>> >> 
>> >> :-)
>> >
>> >I'm going to do that, and more, someday. But I won't have an 
>> engine on 
>> >my bike.
>> 
>> Have you read "A Short Walk in the Hundu Kush"?
>
>Of course! It has the best put-down of all time, from barking mad Thesiger.

Yes! One of my all-time favorite book endings!

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RE: OT - Afghanistan by motorcycle

[Bob W]

> >> 
> >> > Mad bastards.
> >> 
> >> http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=497143
> >> 
> >> :-)
> >
> >I'm going to do that, and more, someday. But I won't have an 
> engine on 
> >my bike.
> 
> Have you read "A Short Walk in the Hundu Kush"?

Of course! It has the best put-down of all time, from barking mad Thesiger.

Bob


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Re: OT - Afghanistan by motorcycle

[Mark Roberts]

Bob W wrote:

>> 
>> > Mad bastards.
>> 
>> http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=497143
>> 
>> :-)
>
>I'm going to do that, and more, someday. But I won't have an engine on my
>bike.

Have you read "A Short Walk in the Hundu Kush"?


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Re: PESO: Blue & white (cliché alert)

[ann sanfedele]

Tim  - the Morning glory is lovely!  
I don't think it is cliche at all...


the white flowers don't do it for me -- but they seldom do.

ann

Jack Davis wrote:


Especially like the angle at which you chose to shoot the Morning Glory. Both 
nicely composed.

Jack

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From: Tim Bray 
Subject: PESO: Blue & white (cliché alert)
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Date: Monday, September 28, 2009, 10:02 AM
I'm afraid these are sunlit blossoms
with dark backgrounds, one with
dapples for maximum cliché value.
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2009/09/27/Blue-and-White

 -T

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RE: Dave Brooks' day

[Bob W]

> 
> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 10:24 AM, AlunFoto  wrote:
> > Hope I've got the date right: Happy birthday Dave!
> >
> 
> Chiming in a bit late, but Happy Birthday, Dave!
> 

Is it Dave's birthday? Why didn't anyone mention it? Happy bidet, mate.

Bob


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RE: OT - Afghanistan by motorcycle

[Bob W]

> 
> > Mad bastards.
> 
> http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=497143
> 
> :-)

I'm going to do that, and more, someday. But I won't have an engine on my
bike.

Bob


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RE: The M9 is a bargain!

[Bob W]

> Cheap guy as I am, I'll at least wait for used, well brassed 
> M9s to be available before I get one. In the meantime, I will 
> most probably get an EP-1 (or more likely, a Panasonic GF-1) 
> and a K mount adaptor.
> 
> I only got my M8 because someone was nice enough to buy a 
> whole bunch of prints from me at once. Otherwise, I'd still 
> be shooting the K10D exclusively.
> 
> Juan (and others), be aware that the K-7 is much quieter than 
> any other Pentax DSLR so far (*istD included), and quieter 
> than any other DSLR I've been able to compare it to.
> I've been shooting a theater performance and all other 
> photographers were envious of its subdued click. That hasn't 
> been stressed enough by Pentax when introducing the K-7 and I 
> think of that as the main improvement over the K20D.
> 

Have you compared it with an Olympus E-1, which is the quietest SLR I have
ever used? It seems to me to be as quiet as a film Leica M. Certainly
quieter than the M8, but I don't think it's quieter than the M9.

Bob


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RE: More Bike race photos

[Desjardins, Steve]

I like these better (the kid and the cameraman is priceless) but some of the 
other set make a nice counterpoint.  I guess it would be better to say that 
some of the other pictures are made better as part of the total set.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 5:13 PM
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Subject: More Bike race photos

http://www.robertstech.com/blog/photos/gallery16/


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RE: Submitted for your input: Experimental bike race photos

[Desjardins, Steve]

I especially like 10, 14, and 15.  

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I think they work quite well Mark.

Good idea.

Dave

On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> So... yesterday I went downtown for the first annual Mayor's Cup, a
> criterium bicycle race in downtown Boston. The racing started fairly
> late in the day for this time of year: The sun was pretty low even at
> the start and, being downtown amidst all the buildings, much of the
> course was in deep shadow... except the parts that were in dazzling
> sunlight. Exposure, color balance, all extremely wacky. Even at the
> default neutral raw conversion settings, color saturation was off the
> charts.
>
> So rather than attempt the fool's errand of trying to make the
> resulting shots look normal, I dialed down the highlights as much as
> possible, turned up the black levels and contrast and turned down the
> color saturation to get...
> http://www.robertstech.com/blog/photos/gallery15/index.html
>
> Photos shot with K10D and K20D, all (I think) with FA*300/2.8
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