PESO 2009 - 189, 190 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

More blog post, more photographs:

"When we are taking a picture, we are taking a picture."

  http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/walking-zen

comments always appreciated, thanks for looking.

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PESO - The Birds and I

[Brian Walters]

G'day all

Went along to Sculpture by the Sea again this year.  Great walk -
interesting sculptures with the usual eclectic mix of the Wonderful, the
Woeful and the Weird.

Here's a shot taken just for the hell of it

http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/182749/The_Birds_and_I.html


If anyone's interested, here's a GESO of some of the sculptures on
display this year:

http://supera.jalbum.net/Sculpture_by_the_Sea_2009/index.html


The main controversy this year was the sculpture of a naked boy.  The
local council demanded that his modesty be restored with a pair of
swimming shorts, however the artist rebelled and removed the shorts
early on the opening day of the exhibition.  Details here:

http://www.smh.com.au/news/entertainment/arts/little-boy-loses-his-swimmers-as-artist-rebels/2009/10/31/1256835190849.html
http://tinyurl.com/yeyev8v



Cheers

Brian

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Re: Mini PDML Meet - Jaume comes to Haifa

[Christine Aguila]

Neato!  Sounds like you had a nice PDML meet up.  some nice city sky line 
shots there & I'd say Jaume is a bit dishy as well ;-).  Love enchanted 
lights, Boris.  Cheers, Christine



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Hi!

Have a look here: 
http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/11/mini-pdml-haifa-jaume.html


:-).

Boris

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Re: GESO - More graveyard pictures

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Chris:  Love the light and composition in the 1st picture.  Just lovely. 
Interesting headstones as well.  I've never seen a heart shaped headstone 
before.  Cheers, Christine



- Original Message - 
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Subject: GESO - More graveyard pictures



Following on from Rick's excellent autumnal graveyard shots, here are some
more taken on a recent trip to Northumbria via North Yorkshire.

http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/GraveyardShift/

Chris



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Re: GESO - F'n Fast & Furious. Part three

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Tim:  I don't mind the desaturation in the first picture, but the soft 
focus on the guy is a little distracting, though I too like the pose. 
Absolutely love the last picture--the group shot--excellent there.  Also, 
very much like the other pictures in the set.  Nice work!  Cheers, Christine



- Original Message - 
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Subject: GESO - F'n Fast & Furious. Part three



This blogpost concludes the serie
http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2009/11/fn-fast-furious-hst-kick-off-2009-part.html

The light guy gave me a tough time in this last set. The colors where
pointing in all different directions, so I had to play a lot with them
to get acceptable results.

I saw no choice except going for an "artistic" look. If you can't beat
the light man, join him ;-)

The first picture is what really gave me a challenge. I loved the
pose, but he isn't 100% sharp, and the background nearly killed the
shot. I ended up focusing on the guy by turning down the green in the
background. So the background is now close to B&W. I think I also
desaturated the whole scene a bit, but I'm not sure about that.

I added some grain artifacts by using aggressive sharpening in all of
them. It's rock'n roll dude ;-)


MaritimTim

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Re: GESO - around the tracks

[Christine Aguila]

Moody, desolate, excellent rendering.  Great composition to these as well. 
Loved the set, Doug.  I love partial desaturation on renderings.  These look 
great to me.  Cheers, Christine



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Subject: GESO - around the tracks



more of the same:

http://www.alphoto.com/images/tracks/

enjoy

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Re: NSW PDML 2010

[John Sessoms]

From: Doug Franklin

Scott Loveless wrote:

> How much do they charge for checked baggage these days?  Do you have a
> suitcase that might fit a 225 pound camera bipod?


Holy cow!  What are you going to mount on that bipod?  A 155mm field gun?


Just for what it's worth, you can't mail it if it weighs over 70 pounds.

http://ircalc.usps.gov/default.aspx?Mode=Intl_Single&CID=10013

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Re: PESOs - Cemetery Stroll

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Rick:  Gingko & Columns are very nice.  Nice light there.  Cheers, 
Christine



- Original Message - 
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Subject: PESOs - Cemetery Stroll


It was a lovely, warm afternoon in Philly, after four days of rain.  I 
took a photo walk in the nearby cemetery.


A gingko in autumn glory:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10192602

A small and somewhat tardy maple:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10192611

Columns of the cemetery's mansion:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10192710

(All K10D + 50-200 or 16-45)

For some reason, I can't get the luminous colors I see in Lightroom to 
survive the conversion to jpg...


Rick






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Re: PESO - Photographic Competition

[Christine Aguila]

Great shot, Marnie!  Another terrific shot.  Cheers, Christine


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Subject: Re: PESO - Photographic Competition


On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:29:20 -0500, you wrote:


On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 2:00 PM,   wrote:


A grab shot. Just for fun.

http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/comp.htm


Har!

I think it's brilliant.  And funny.

Wonderful shot!


Three thoughts come to mind:

1 - Sympathetic: Anyone who could look at that scene and *not* want to
get a photogarph of it has something wrong with them

2 - Snarky: I think Marnie got a better photo than any of them did

3 - Bizarre: That tripod without a camera or a photographer!


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Re: PESO - Out of her Head

[Christine Aguila]

I thought there was supposed to be no nudity on this list  :-).  Seriously, 
another fun one.  Well seen, Frank.  Cheers, Chrsitine



- Original Message - 
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Subject: PESO - Out of her Head



Spotted out front of a local antique/collectible shop:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/11/out-of-her-head.html

I thought it was rather funny.  Hope you do, too.

Comments always welcome.

cheers,
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Re: PESO - Gallery

[Christine Aguila]

Love it, Frank.  Great fun that one.  Composition just right to me. Cheers, 
Christine



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Subject: RE: PESO - Gallery



My second (and last) PESO tonight.  Sorry about having more
than one, but I'm excited about getting back a roll of film.
Remember that feeling?  It's amazing!

Anyway, I walked into a new coffee shop (not just "new to
me", rather, "just opened") in Toronto's Kensington Market.
He's got a beautiful space and (as you'll see) shows art.
The espresso machine, counter and stools are half-way toward
the back so that looking out the front all one sees is framed
art and the big window onto the street.  I won't say any
more, or why liked what I saw;  hopefully you'll see and feel
what I did:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/11/gallery.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.


Looks like a nice cool groovy café. But call me cynical, I wonder how long
it will take him to figure out the cost of that empty square footage, and
how much it could earn if he stuck a few tables on it.

Bob


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RE: one more update

[John Sessoms]

From: "Bob W"

[...]
> 
> I haven't actually used lightroom. I have looked at it on 
> friends computers, but every thing I've seen, read and looked 
> at on other computers makes me believe it doesn't really meet 
> my needs.
> 
> Not a bad program, just doesn't do what I want to do as 
> easily as Bridge and Photoshop already do.
> 
> My basic take on Lightroom:
> 
> Pros - 	It's got a database for organizing photos.

>You can do things without opening Photoshop
> 
> Cons - 	That damn database.

>You can already do those things in Photoshop


Download it and give it a try - I think you may be surprised.

The database doesn't organize photos, it keeps track of where you've
organised them. It helps you find them easily and make different collections
without having to keep duplicates of your pictures.

What are your issues with the database? If you haven't used it, how do you
know it's damnable?

You probably can do the same things in Photoshop, but you can do them far
more easily with a massively better user interface. Remember, the same team
that developed PS have applied their experience of all those years, combined
it with photographers' specific needs, and come up with something tailored
for photographers.

Bob


Maybe I wasn't clear. I did "give it a try" ... on other computers. I 
know several Lightroom evangelists.


My issue is all the myriad complaints I've seen about lost catalogs, 
bodged up EXIF, lost keywords, scrambled backups ... here and elsewhere.


I already know where my images are, how they're organized, and how to 
find what I want when I want it.


Lightroom is a program to fix something I ain't got broke.

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Re: K10D in low light and magenta concrete

[Boris Liberman]

Rick Womer wrote:

Apart from buying a K7 (which will have to wait a few months), is
there a solution?


You can go Nikon. Some say in this case it produces colorless images. 
Seriously however, my K-7 goes dark magenta in cases such as yours. If 
you wish I can provide you with a DNG or two for you to look at.


OTOH, I also use LR exclusively. May be in other converters it will be 
different.


Boris

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Re: Mini PDML Meet - Jaume comes to Haifa

[Boris Liberman]

Bob Sullivan wrote:

Boris,
I especially enjoyed Haifa Bay in HDR.
Regards,  Bob S.


Thanks, Bob. In fact, if anyone is interested in pixel peeping at this 
picture, please let me know off list - I can make it easily available to 
you - the file is pretty small.


Boris


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Re: Mini PDML Meet - Jaume comes to Haifa

[Boris Liberman]

paul stenquist wrote:

Nice pics. Looks like you had a great evening.
Paul


I did. We may have to wait until Jaume makes his trip home to hear his 
opinion ;-).


Boris


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Re: Mini PDML Meet - Jaume comes to Haifa

[Boris Liberman]

Brian Walters wrote:

Great series, Boris.

I really like the city shots - that HDR function of the K7 seems to be a
really useful feature.

Cheers

Brian


Thanks, Brian. Well, this HDR function is cool, but a proper support is 
in order and the scene is best served without any wind based dressings :-).



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Re: Mini PDML Meet - Jaume comes to Haifa

[Boris Liberman]

Bob W wrote:


Some very nice townscapes there Boris.

Bob


Thanks, Bob. I am somewhat underwhelmed by the way K-7 treats deep 
shadows at high ISO settings, but I reckon I should shoot like this more 
to gain experience.


Boris

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Re: PESO - Photographic Competition

[Bob Sullivan]

Snarky II:  So what kind of snobby SOB's are we to say these folks
aren't worthy of taking pictures at a scenic overlook?  I always
thought Pal was jealous of the expensive cameras that the
Orthodontists were carrying when he saw them at the overlooks.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:29:20 -0500, you wrote:
>
>>On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 2:00 PM,   wrote:
>>>
>>> A grab shot. Just for  fun.
>>>
>>> http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/comp.htm
>>>
>>Har!
>>
>>I think it's brilliant.  And funny.
>>
>>Wonderful shot!
>
> Three thoughts come to mind:
>
> 1 - Sympathetic: Anyone who could look at that scene and *not* want to
> get a photogarph of it has something wrong with them
>
> 2 - Snarky: I think Marnie got a better photo than any of them did
>
> 3 - Bizarre: That tripod without a camera or a photographer!
>
>
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Re: one more update

[Bob Sullivan]

My daughter-in-law is a grade school teacher.  A photocopy of her
school ID let me get a great discount on Lightroom 2.4,
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 8:09 PM,   wrote:
> In a message dated 11/19/2009 5:58:34 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> m...@robertstech.com writes:
> Whenever you buy an academic version of Adobe  software it shows
> "Academic" on the splash screen as it loads. I'll take  Marnie's word
> that the software itself is bo different other than in the  packaging.
> I'll guess that the registration key contains data that identifies  the
> software as either commercial or academic.
>
> Lightroom, as a  combined raw conversion and databses/archiving tool,
> is indespensible to me  now. Photoshop is the closest thing to a true
> monopoly in the sowfware  world.
>
>
> 
> I bought most of my original photo editing  software on student discounts.
> Then upgraded.
>
> You'd get a lot of ticked  off students otherwise.
>
> They sell software to students at a discount, MS  and others too, figuring
> "hook them young and they will be a customer for life."  Which tends to
> work. If those students couldn't upgrade when they graduate,  well, I think 
> you
> would have heard the loud yell all over the Net by now.  :-)
>
> They just don't count on older students like me (and others) who are
> students just for that discount.
>
> Academic software discounts are a secret only to those who haven't been
> students.
>
> Marnie ;-)
>
> -
> We can't solve problems  by using the same kind of thinking we used when we
> created them. Albert  Einstein
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Re: NSW PDML 2010

[Anthony Farr]

2009/11/20 Cory Waters :
> I think he means bipEd.  And I'm SHOCKED that nobody's made any kind of
> reference to the thread being NSFW :)
> CW
>

Only residents may refer to our state as "New South effin' Wales",
which we do often.  Outsiders and blow ins must only call our state
"New South Wales".

I'll consult my social director about our vacation plans before I can
answer yea or nay about the NSW PDML.

regards, Anthony

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to those who lack in mind and sight"
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Re: Peso: orange and yellow flower.

[Jack Davis]

A tiny bit soft, but it's not a botanical study, and works fine on other 
levels. Like the positioning within the frame and believe that even the missing 
petal tips add to the interest.
Good one!

Jack

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> From: Sandra Hermann 
> Subject: Peso: orange and yellow flower.
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 2:17 PM
> The world around me seems to be
> rather dreary so I thought maybe I could cheer it up a
> bit.   :)  
> http://samsphotopage.blogspot.com/2009/11/orange-and-yellow-flower.html
> I think this picture may be sharp in all the wrong
> places.  I'm posting it to see if you agree with
> me.  I think the middle part of the flower should have
> been sharper, although I like the yellow part the
> best.  
> sandy
> 
>  Help me support Autism research!  Join my 
> team!  http://www.walknowforautism.org/stlouis/blubiconsbuddies
>  http://stampmine.blogspot.com/
> http://samsphotopage.blogspot.com/ 
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Re: PESO - Photographic Competition

[Mark Roberts]

On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:29:20 -0500, you wrote:

>On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 2:00 PM,   wrote:
>>
>> A grab shot. Just for  fun.
>>
>> http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/comp.htm
>>
>Har!
>
>I think it's brilliant.  And funny.
>
>Wonderful shot!

Three thoughts come to mind:

1 - Sympathetic: Anyone who could look at that scene and *not* want to
get a photogarph of it has something wrong with them

2 - Snarky: I think Marnie got a better photo than any of them did

3 - Bizarre: That tripod without a camera or a photographer!


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Re: PESO - Photographic Competition

[frank theriault]

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 2:00 PM,   wrote:
>
> A grab shot. Just for  fun.
>
> http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/comp.htm
>

Har!

I think it's brilliant.  And funny.

Wonderful shot!

cheers,
frank

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Re: PESO - Out of her Head

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 11/19/2009 6:45:13 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
knarftheria...@gmail.com writes:
Spotted out front of  a local antique/collectible  shop:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/11/out-of-her-head.html

I  thought it was rather funny.  Hope you do, too.

Comments always  welcome.

cheers,
frank


==
Yup, made me grin.  Good eye.

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Re: NSW PDML 2010

[Cory Waters]

I think he means bipEd.  And I'm SHOCKED that nobody's made any kind of 
reference to the thread being NSFW :)

CW

Doug Franklin wrote:

Scott Loveless wrote:


How much do they charge for checked baggage these days?  Do you have a
suitcase that might fit a 225 pound camera bipod?


Holy cow!  What are you going to mount on that bipod?  A 155mm field gun?




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PESO - Out of her Head

[frank theriault]

Spotted out front of a local antique/collectible shop:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/11/out-of-her-head.html

I thought it was rather funny.  Hope you do, too.

Comments always welcome.

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Re: NSW PDML 2010

[Doug Franklin]

Scott Loveless wrote:


How much do they charge for checked baggage these days?  Do you have a
suitcase that might fit a 225 pound camera bipod?


Holy cow!  What are you going to mount on that bipod?  A 155mm field gun?

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Re: one more update

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 11/19/2009 5:58:34 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
m...@robertstech.com writes:
Whenever you buy an academic version of Adobe  software it shows
"Academic" on the splash screen as it loads. I'll take  Marnie's word
that the software itself is bo different other than in the  packaging.
I'll guess that the registration key contains data that identifies  the
software as either commercial or academic. 

Lightroom, as a  combined raw conversion and databses/archiving tool,
is indespensible to me  now. Photoshop is the closest thing to a true
monopoly in the sowfware  world.



I bought most of my original photo editing  software on student discounts. 
Then upgraded. 

You'd get a lot of ticked  off students otherwise.

They sell software to students at a discount, MS  and others too, figuring 
"hook them young and they will be a customer for life."  Which tends to 
work. If those students couldn't upgrade when they graduate,  well, I think you 
would have heard the loud yell all over the Net by now.  :-)

They just don't count on older students like me (and others) who are  
students just for that discount.
 
Academic software discounts are a secret only to those who haven't been  
students.

Marnie ;-)  

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Re: NSW PDML 2010

[Scott Loveless]

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Christian  wrote:
> It's 4 weeks before we depart for 'stralia and I just wanted to start
> planning for the PDML meet up in Sydney for January.
>
> After spending time at my in-laws in Tamworth, we'll be in Sydney from
> January 3rd to January 8th (we leave for LA at 9pm on the 8th).
>
> So who's in?  I'm pretty sure Rob Studdert will be there.  And Dave Savage
> is making a cross-country trek to hang out with us.

How much do they charge for checked baggage these days?  Do you have a
suitcase that might fit a 225 pound camera bipod?

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Re: one more update

[Mark Roberts]

On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:32:21 -0700, you wrote:

>On 2009-11-19 15:49 , eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
>> Most software companies don't make separate  versions of software for
>> students. All they do is stamp "academic" on the box,  and sometimes on the 
>> disc.
>
>no, i wouldn't expect the software to be different, but that doesn't 
>stop the developer from controlling things like upgrades via the serial 
>number
>
>moot point now, i guess, for Adobe

Whenever you buy an academic version of Adobe software it shows
"Academic" on the splash screen as it loads. I'll take Marnie's word
that the software itself is bo different other than in the packaging.
I'll guess that the registration key contains data that identifies the
software as either commercial or academic. 

Lightroom, as a combined raw conversion and databses/archiving tool,
is indespensible to me now. Photoshop is the closest thing to a true
monopoly in the sowfware world.

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Re: one more update

[paul stenquist]

On Nov 19, 2009, at 3:31 PM, William Robb wrote:

> 
> - Original Message - From: "John Sessoms"
> Subject: Re: one more update
> 
> 
>> From: "William Robb"
>>> A word to the wise:
>>> CS4 is a little buggy on XP.
>>> Prone to crashing for no apparent reason with some of the filters I use.
>>> I'm actually back to CS3 for my portrait work because I can't use the 
>>> Portraiture filter with CS4 without the program crashing.
>> 
>> I've got CS2 running on another computer with XP, no problems there.
>> I'm running CS3 on this laptop with Vista, no problems here, although maxing 
>> out memory on this laptop (4GB) would help CS3 run a little faster.
>> 
>> Memory is already maxed out (2GB) on the other computer.
>> 
>> I sorta' figure to forgo CS4 and wait until CS5 comes out before upgrading.
>> 
>> I hope there will be a CS5 and it won't all get subsumed into Lightroom.
>> 
>> I haven't actually used lightroom. I have looked at it on friends computers, 
>> but every thing I've seen, read and looked at on other computers makes me 
>> believe it doesn't really meet my needs.
>> 
>> Not a bad program, just doesn't do what I want to do as easily as Bridge and 
>> Photoshop already do.
>> 
>> My basic take on Lightroom:
>> 
>> Pros - It's got a database for organizing photos.
>> You can do things without opening Photoshop
>> 
>> Cons - That damn database.
>> You can already do those things in Photoshop
> 
> CS2 and CS3 are fine. CS4 is a little bitchy.
> At the moment I could work without Lightroom, but I would prefer not to have 
> to, but I couldn't work without Photoshop.
> Lightroom has pretty much taken over from bridge for me.
> That damned database is damned useful.
> 
I couldn't work without PhotoShop. I do fine organizing my files with bridge 
and keyword folders. Don't know if I could do better with Lightroom, but I'm 
okay with my current system. However, I do want to give lightroom a try. It 
might prove to be a better solution for batch processing.

In regard to CS4, I really like it. Never used two or three, I went straight 
from CS to CS4. But I love the clone tool that shows placement, and I'm pleased 
with the save for web function that allows retention of exif data. I also like 
the numerous photo filter options and the curves functions in the ACR 
converter. But I don't know how many of those things are available in CS3.

Paul
> William Robb 
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Re: one more update

[steve harley]

On 2009-11-19 15:49 , eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

Most software companies don't make separate  versions of software for
students. All they do is stamp "academic" on the box,  and sometimes on the 
disc.


no, i wouldn't expect the software to be different, but that doesn't 
stop the developer from controlling things like upgrades via the serial 
number


moot point now, i guess, for Adobe

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Re: one more update

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "John Sessoms"

Subject: Re: one more update



From: "William Robb"

A word to the wise:
CS4 is a little buggy on XP.
Prone to crashing for no apparent reason with some of the filters I use.
I'm actually back to CS3 for my portrait work because I can't use the 
Portraiture filter with CS4 without the program crashing.


I've got CS2 running on another computer with XP, no problems there.
I'm running CS3 on this laptop with Vista, no problems here, although 
maxing out memory on this laptop (4GB) would help CS3 run a little faster.


Memory is already maxed out (2GB) on the other computer.

I sorta' figure to forgo CS4 and wait until CS5 comes out before 
upgrading.


I hope there will be a CS5 and it won't all get subsumed into Lightroom.

I haven't actually used lightroom. I have looked at it on friends 
computers, but every thing I've seen, read and looked at on other 
computers makes me believe it doesn't really meet my needs.


Not a bad program, just doesn't do what I want to do as easily as Bridge 
and Photoshop already do.


My basic take on Lightroom:

Pros - It's got a database for organizing photos.
You can do things without opening Photoshop

Cons - That damn database.
You can already do those things in Photoshop


CS2 and CS3 are fine. CS4 is a little bitchy.
At the moment I could work without Lightroom, but I would prefer not to have 
to, but I couldn't work without Photoshop.

Lightroom has pretty much taken over from bridge for me.
That damned database is damned useful.

William Robb 



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Re: NSW PDML 2010

[Brian Walters]

On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:52 -0500, "Christian" 
wrote:
> It's 4 weeks before we depart for 'stralia and I just wanted to start 
> planning for the PDML meet up in Sydney for January.
> 
> After spending time at my in-laws in Tamworth, we'll be in Sydney from 
> January 3rd to January 8th (we leave for LA at 9pm on the 8th).
> 
> So who's in?  I'm pretty sure Rob Studdert will be there.  And Dave 
> Savage is making a cross-country trek to hang out with us.



Yes - count me in!

Looking forward to meeting up.



Cheers

Brian

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Re: Peso: orange and yellow flower.

[Bob Sullivan]

A sharper middle part would be good, but it's a pleasing picture.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Sandra Hermann  wrote:
> The world around me seems to be rather dreary so I thought maybe I could 
> cheer it up a bit.   :)
> http://samsphotopage.blogspot.com/2009/11/orange-and-yellow-flower.html
> I think this picture may be sharp in all the wrong places.  I'm posting it to 
> see if you agree with me.  I think the middle part of the flower should have 
> been sharper, although I like the yellow part the best.
> sandy
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Re: Peso: orange and yellow flower.

[paul stenquist]

I like this. The somewhat subtle contrast and saturation is nice.
Paul
On Nov 19, 2009, at 5:17 PM, Sandra Hermann wrote:

> The world around me seems to be rather dreary so I thought maybe I could 
> cheer it up a bit.   :)  
> http://samsphotopage.blogspot.com/2009/11/orange-and-yellow-flower.html
> I think this picture may be sharp in all the wrong places.  I'm posting it to 
> see if you agree with me.  I think the middle part of the flower should have 
> been sharper, although I like the yellow part the best.  
> sandy
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NSW PDML 2010

[Christian]

It's 4 weeks before we depart for 'stralia and I just wanted to start 
planning for the PDML meet up in Sydney for January.


After spending time at my in-laws in Tamworth, we'll be in Sydney from 
January 3rd to January 8th (we leave for LA at 9pm on the 8th).


So who's in?  I'm pretty sure Rob Studdert will be there.  And Dave 
Savage is making a cross-country trek to hang out with us.


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Re: PESO - The Line Up

[Anthony Farr]

2009/11/18 Jack Davis :
> Interesting perspective shot. Blown out left background is somewhat 
> distracting. Otherwise, excellent exposure of crisp detail.
>
> Jack

That's' not blown out.  Tri-X doesn't blow out. the highlights just
roll over.  There's detail there if Frank wants to dig it out and show
it, but it may need either multi-pass scanning or even, oh the horror,
hand printing the good ol' fashioned way in a darkroom.

Good to see some nice work coming from the old Leica, Frank.

regards, Anthony

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to those who lack in mind and sight"
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Re: one more update

[David J Brooks]

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:14 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> From: David J Brooks
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 1:08 PM, John Sessoms 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > From: David J Brooks
>>
>>> > There are also academic discounts if you can qualify.
>>
>> You've read my posts. Not qualified.:-)
>
> Must have tightened up the restrictions a whole bunch then.

Actually, i was referring to my spelling and grammer.:-), thus not qualified.:-)

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Re: one more update

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 11/19/2009 2:30:33 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
p...@paper-ape.com writes:
On 2009-11-19 14:33 ,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
> I've  never had a problem upgrading from  an academic version to a 
standard
> version.  (And nothing on that  page says you will be unable to.)

looks like you're right, that makes the  Student Edition more  valuable



digging  around in my email archives to correct my received wisdom, it 
looks like  starting with CS2, the academic version has full upgrade 
rights; previous to  that there was a a special upgrade available, but it 
was at a higher  price

==
Most software companies don't make separate  versions of software for 
students. All they do is stamp "academic" on the box,  and sometimes on the 
disc. 

I know for a fact Adobe does this.  

And if I recall correctly, it is true of most MS products as well. The  
only one I ever had problems with was Peachtree Accounting, which did make a  
separate academic version. But, think about it, really, who's going to want 
to  go to all the trouble of making different versions? A lot, A LOT, of 
academic  software is sold.

But one should always check out each company's site,  before buying any 
academic software, just to double check and make sure than one  can upgrade 
from academic to standard. 

Marnie  :-)

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Re: one more update

[steve harley]

On 2009-11-19 14:33 , eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

I've  never had a problem upgrading from an academic version to a standard
version.  (And nothing on that page says you will be unable to.)


looks like you're right, that makes the Student Edition more valuable



digging around in my email archives to correct my received wisdom, it 
looks like starting with CS2, the academic version has full upgrade 
rights; previous to that there was a a special upgrade available, but it 
was at a higher price


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Peso: orange and yellow flower.

[Sandra Hermann]

The world around me seems to be rather dreary so I thought maybe I could cheer 
it up a bit.   :)  
http://samsphotopage.blogspot.com/2009/11/orange-and-yellow-flower.html
I think this picture may be sharp in all the wrong places.  I'm posting it to 
see if you agree with me.  I think the middle part of the flower should have 
been sharper, although I like the yellow part the best.  
sandy

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Re: GESO - around the tracks

[Sandra Hermann]

I like this series!  
 Help me support Autism research!  Join my 
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> Subject: GESO - around the tracks
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 8:51 PM
> more of the same:
> 
> http://www.alphoto.com/images/tracks/
> 
> enjoy
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Re: one more update

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 11/19/2009 1:13:49 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
p...@paper-ape.com writes:
it was, and is, even more  lenient than that, but mind the use 
restrictions, and the fact that these  versions cannot be upgraded;  
details:

http://www.adobe.com/education/purchasing/qualify.html


=
I've  never had a problem upgrading from an academic version to a standard 
version.  (And nothing on that page says you will be unable to.)

Marnie  

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Re: PESOs - Cemetery Stroll

[Tim Øsleby]

Nice lines and light in 1 and 3. Like them both.

The head stones in 2 leaves me cold ;-)

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2009/11/16 Rick Womer :
> It was a lovely, warm afternoon in Philly, after four days of rain.  I took a 
> photo walk in the nearby cemetery.
>
> A gingko in autumn glory:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10192602
>
> A small and somewhat tardy maple:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10192611
>
> Columns of the cemetery's mansion:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10192710
>
> (All K10D + 50-200 or 16-45)
>
> For some reason, I can't get the luminous colors I see in Lightroom to 
> survive the conversion to jpg...
>
> Rick
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: one more update

[steve harley]

On 2009-11-19 12:14 , John Sessoms wrote:

Used to be (2005 - 2006) even taking one community college course on
Photoshop was enough to get you into the college bookstore where you
could legitimately purchase the academic version at the student price.


it was, and is, even more lenient than that, but mind the use 
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Re: PESO - 1313 Queen West

[Tim Øsleby]

What happened to your house entry project?

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2009/11/18 frank theriault :
> Originally a police station, this beautiful art deco building in
> Toronto's Parkdale neighbourhood is now a community art gallery.  It
> has one of my favorite doorways in town:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/11/1313-queen-west.html
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>
> cheers,
> frank
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PESO - Room Sourounded by Water

[Tim Øsleby]

Nothing special really. But I need a bit of relax from all the people
shot I've made lately.
http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2009/11/room-sourounded-by-water.html

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Re: PESO - or perhaps PTO

[Tim Øsleby]

The lines are not helping me to see the lady. Now that you have told
me about her, I notice her, and the pic gives me a chuckle. That's
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2009/11/15 ann sanfedele :
> I've been shooting a lot lately - a lot for me is maybe  20 frames a day ,
> btw  this one is from  today. yes, Pentax lens used on
> Rebel body.   shooting at hyperfocal thingy  f5.6  I cropped a fair amount
> because I was just corssing the street when I saw the scene .  Only got one
> shot off before the guy went inside ... didn't even see the woman til I got
> home.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ykev352
>
> http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-New-York/2564371_i3HHm/1/714056583_UYQWr/Large
>
>
> The store is in the West Village - 7th ave...
>
> ann
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Re: PESO:train

[Tim Øsleby]

I like the framing and it's a nice train.
But I have to go with the flow of comments, it needs to better sharpness.

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> http://samsphotopage.blogspot.com/2009/11/davids-train.html
> I took another train shot.  What do you think about this one?
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Re: PESO - Subversive Activities

[Tim Øsleby]

Ann stole my smart remark. So I've got nothing left to say.

Except that she looks like a person I could relate with. Nice character grab.

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2009/11/12 frank theriault :
> Leftist political tracts and vegan cookies  - all at the same table!
> I'm sure CSIS* has a file on her:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/11/subversive-activities.html
>
> I know it's not a "knockout" or "home run" photo, but there's
> something about this one that (I must confess) I really like.  I hope
> you like it, too.
>
> Or maybe I'm just a sucker for a crooked smile...
>
> ;-)
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
> * CSIS is Canada's "Intelligence" agency (I think that's what the "I"
> stands for).  These guys actually manage to make the CIA and FBI look
> capable and effective.
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RE: one more update

[Bob W]

[...]
> 
> I haven't actually used lightroom. I have looked at it on 
> friends computers, but every thing I've seen, read and looked 
> at on other computers makes me believe it doesn't really meet 
> my needs.
> 
> Not a bad program, just doesn't do what I want to do as 
> easily as Bridge and Photoshop already do.
> 
> My basic take on Lightroom:
> 
> Pros -It's got a database for organizing photos.
>   You can do things without opening Photoshop
> 
> Cons -That damn database.
>   You can already do those things in Photoshop

Download it and give it a try - I think you may be surprised.

The database doesn't organize photos, it keeps track of where you've
organised them. It helps you find them easily and make different collections
without having to keep duplicates of your pictures.

What are your issues with the database? If you haven't used it, how do you
know it's damnable?

You probably can do the same things in Photoshop, but you can do them far
more easily with a massively better user interface. Remember, the same team
that developed PS have applied their experience of all those years, combined
it with photographers' specific needs, and come up with something tailored
for photographers.

Bob


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Re: AF540FGZ on K10D won't fire on 2nd curtain

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Here's the link to a shot now - the pic sucks and my technique still
needs a lot of work
http://picasaweb.google.com/eckinator/PDML?authkey=Gv1sRgCNqL6t_Yvcy8eQ&feat=email#
suggestions appreciated
cheers
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2009/11/19 eckinator :
> heh... I wonder if that will work - will give it a few shots...
>
> 2009/11/18 Thibouille :
>> You can overexpose by 2 stops this way:
>>
>> Set the flash EV to +1 on the flash.
>> Set the flash EV to +1 on the camera.
>> Total +2 EV ;)
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 9:12 AM, eckinator  wrote:
>>> Could be - I was trying to combine an underexposed image and a flash
>>> set to overexpose to freeze movement. I will post a pic. I am not
>>> happy with the result yet in many ways - the motion freeze effect
>>> isn't strong enough - af540fgz can only overexpose one stop - the
>>> foreground looks grey and washed out because I am shooting handheld
>>> and I think it was a slightly foggy day - but you may have a point =)
>>> I was entertaining the foolish notion actually that the camera would
>>> do as I say... silly me...
>>> Cheers
>>> Ecke
>>>
>>> 2009/11/18 Doug Brewer :
 eckinator wrote:
>
> both set to 2nd curtain, TAV mode, 0.5 sec f/4 - what am I doing wrong?
> TIA
> Ecke

 what's the light like? The auto ISO range? could the camera think there's
 enough like already?

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Moving mail to a new server

[Larry Colen]

We just moved the mx records to the new server. My email is likely to
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Re: Totally OT: Glad I don't live in California

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 11/18/2009 6:45:10 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
wsaw...@twmi.rr.com writes:
Thanks for the support,  young feller - If I'da known they was takin'
pictures, I woulda put my teeth  in.

Bill Sawyer

==
That oxygen tank might  actually be a deterrent to a bank guard.

Probably afraid if he shoots at  him he will blow up the bank.

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Re: one more update

[John Sessoms]

From: "William Robb"

A word to the wise:
CS4 is a little buggy on XP.
Prone to crashing for no apparent reason with some of the filters I use.
I'm actually back to CS3 for my portrait work because I can't use the 
Portraiture filter with CS4 without the program crashing.


I've got CS2 running on another computer with XP, no problems there.
I'm running CS3 on this laptop with Vista, no problems here, although 
maxing out memory on this laptop (4GB) would help CS3 run a little faster.


Memory is already maxed out (2GB) on the other computer.

I sorta' figure to forgo CS4 and wait until CS5 comes out before upgrading.

I hope there will be a CS5 and it won't all get subsumed into Lightroom.

I haven't actually used lightroom. I have looked at it on friends 
computers, but every thing I've seen, read and looked at on other 
computers makes me believe it doesn't really meet my needs.


Not a bad program, just doesn't do what I want to do as easily as Bridge 
and Photoshop already do.


My basic take on Lightroom:

Pros -  It's got a database for organizing photos.
You can do things without opening Photoshop

Cons -  That damn database.
You can already do those things in Photoshop


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Re: one more update

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 11/19/2009 11:14:41 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
jsessoms...@nc.rr.com writes:
Must have tightened up  the restrictions a whole bunch then.

Used to be (2005 - 2006) even taking  one community college course on 
Photoshop was enough to get you into the  college bookstore where you 
could legitimately purchase the academic version  at the student price.

"College student" doesn't say anything about FULL  TIME college student.

Still, the upgrade price seems reasonable to me if  you've got one of the 
qualifying earlier versions. Once you've got a legit  copy, even if it's 
the academic version, you can upgrade to the current  version as long as 
you stay within the window.

Right now it looks  like CS, CS2 and CS3 are all in that window for  CS4.

=
Well, still in effect here. One can take an online  1 unit class and get 
the student discount.

Which is why, for years, I  keep trying to come up with courses to take. 
Still works out cheaper. This  semester, though I ran out of things I hadn't 
taken. 

Marnie aka Doe  ;-)

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Re: one more update

[John Sessoms]

From: David J Brooks

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 1:08 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:

> From: David J Brooks



> There are also academic discounts if you can qualify.


You've read my posts. Not qualified.:-)


Must have tightened up the restrictions a whole bunch then.

Used to be (2005 - 2006) even taking one community college course on 
Photoshop was enough to get you into the college bookstore where you 
could legitimately purchase the academic version at the student price.


"College student" doesn't say anything about FULL TIME college student.

Still, the upgrade price seems reasonable to me if you've got one of the 
qualifying earlier versions. Once you've got a legit copy, even if it's 
the academic version, you can upgrade to the current version as long as 
you stay within the window.


Right now it looks like CS, CS2 and CS3 are all in that window for CS4.

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Re: Totally OT: Glad I don't live in California

[David J Brooks]

"Officials say that in the most recent robbery on Monday, he
approached a Bank of America teller in La Jolla, displayed a handgun
and asked for cash. He fled on foot."

Geez, he only has one foot. Give him a break.

Dave

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> Latest crime news from San Diego:
>
> http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/11/18/fbi-hunt-notorious-oap-bank-raider-dubbed-the-geezer-bandit-115875-21831036/
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> http://tinyurl.com/yjnfukx
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Re: PESO - Gallery

[ann sanfedele]

Frank - I hope you gave him your card and requested a portfolio review :_)
looks like a good space -
nice shot, too

ann

Fernando wrote:


Beautiful

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 9:29 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
 


My second (and last) PESO tonight.  Sorry about having more than one,
but I'm excited about getting back a roll of film.  Remember that
feeling?  It's amazing!

Anyway, I walked into a new coffee shop (not just "new to me", rather,
"just opened") in Toronto's Kensington Market.  He's got a beautiful
space and (as you'll see) shows art.  The espresso machine, counter
and stools are half-way toward the back so that looking out the front
all one sees is framed art and the big window onto the street.  I
won't say any more, or why liked what I saw;  hopefully you'll see and
feel what I did:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/11/gallery.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
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Re: PESO - Yosemite Traditional

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 11/19/2009 10:12:53 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
pnstenqu...@comcast.net writes:

like the color. Beautiful scene. Well  done.
Paul
===
Thanks, Paul.

Marnie :-)

> In a message dated 11/18/2009 8:51:26 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time,  
> cagu...@earthlink.net writes:
>  
> Another beautiful landscape, Marnie.  Excellent work.   I  actually 
prefer 
> the 
> color, but took a peek at the bw,  and it does look  nice.  Could go with 
> either one.   cheers,  Christine
> =
> Thanks, Christine!
>  
> I actually prefer the  color too. But any time I show a B&W  conversion 
on 
> this list it seems to get  response. 
>  
> Marnie aka Doe ;-)
> 
> - Original Message -   
> From: eactiv...@aol.com
> To: 
>  Sent:  Monday, November 16, 2009 1:43 PM
> Subject: PESO -  Yosemite  Traditional
> 
> 
>> 
>>  Color:
>>  http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/tunnel1.htm
>> 
>>  B&W:
>>  http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/tunnel2.htm
>> 
>>  Somehow  I feel I could have done the B&W conversion   better.
>> 
>> Comments  welcome.
>>  
>> Marnie aka  Doe   :-)


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Re: PESO - Gallery

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 11/18/2009 6:29:13 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
knarftheria...@gmail.com writes:
My second (and last)  PESO tonight.  Sorry about having more than one,
but I'm excited about  getting back a roll of film.  Remember that
feeling?  It's  amazing!

Anyway, I walked into a new coffee shop (not just "new to me",  rather,
"just opened") in Toronto's Kensington Market.  He's got a  beautiful
space and (as you'll see) shows art.  The espresso machine,  counter
and stools are half-way toward the back so that looking out the  front
all one sees is framed art and the big window onto the street.   I
won't say any more, or why liked what I saw;  hopefully you'll see  and
feel what I  did:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/11/gallery.html

Hope  you enjoy.  Comments  welcome.

cheers,
frank


I really, really  like this one, frank. The view outside is like another 
photograph on the wall.  Also cool the way the person's feet seem to be right 
on the window sill, i.e.  bottom of the frame.

Great shot. (Although this needs to be bigger, and  maybe the window view 
burned in a little.)

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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Re: one more update

[David J Brooks]

I'm just thinking ahead here.
I might, might, up grade the old P4 after Christmas. I can still get a
PC clone built for +- $700 Canadian, with XP. I might stay with XP,
reasonably happy with it, and all my drivers are for XP.

Dave

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 1:35 PM, William Robb  wrote:
>
> - Original Message - From: "John Sessoms"
> Subject: Re: one more update
>
>
>> From: David J Brooks
>>>
>>> Can you still get CS2.
>>>
>>> I'm guessing not.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>
>> Not directly from Adobe, but it's still available ... new copies that
>> never sold, and used copies.
>>
>> Amazon's showing 1 new from $1395.00 and 1 used from $649.00
>>
>> Gotta' wonder sometimes what these people are thinking, 'cause Amazon's
>> selling new Photoshop CS4 for $634.49 on the same page, plus there's a
>> sponsored link to "SoftwareKing" for CS4 "Now Only $394".
>>
>> Upgrade from CS, CS2 or CS3 to CS4 is $199 from Adobe or $189.99 from
>> Amazon.
>>
>> There are also academic discounts if you can qualify.
>
> A word to the wise:
> CS4 is a little buggy on XP.
> Prone to crashing for no apparent reason with some of the filters I use.
> I'm actually back to CS3 for my portrait work because I can't use the
> Portraiture filter with CS4 without the program crashing.
>
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Re: one more update

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On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 09:44:35AM -0500, David J Brooks wrote:
> Can you still get CS2.
> 
> I'm guessing not.

Nope.

> 
> Dave
> 
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> > - Forwarded message from "Michael
> >
> >
> >> Is this Photoshop CS4, or is the CS Creative Suite?
> >
> > in general, saying "CS4" or "CS" by itself implies one of the Creative Suite
> > editions (such as Design Premium, Production Premium, or Web Premium).  the
> > individual titles like Photoshop would be "Photoshop CS4" (indicating the
> > current version, which is the same Photoshop that would be in a Suite 
> > edition,
> > just all by itself).  i can only buy the current version of any title 
> > anyway,
> > so buying Photoshop would necessarily be "Photoshop CS4".
> >
> > Lightroom is the only title that's one box for both Mac and Windows. for
> > everything else, Mac or Windows must be specified.
> >
> > -mike
> >
> > - End forwarded message -
> >
> > So it looks like
> >
> > 01  PS Adam Montoya  Adam Montoya photoshop windows (LR 
> > as backup)
> > 02  PS Godfrey DiGiorgi  Photoshop CS4 Mac
> > 06  LR Rob Studdert  one copy of LR and one of PS 
> > Windows
> > 09  LR paul stenquist  Lightroom 2  Mac
> >
> > unless Adam had decided he wanted LR instead of PS, or anybody chooses one 
> > of the other titles
> >
> > 01  PS Adam Montoya  Adam Montoya photoshop windows (LR 
> > as backup)
> > 02  PS Godfrey DiGiorgi  Photoshop CS4 Mac
> > 03     Stan Halpin  Photoshop license (Mac)
> > 04     Gonz  cs4 which platform?
> > 05     Luiz Felipe  photoshop windows
> > 06  LR Rob Studdert  one copy of LR and one of PS 
> > Windows
> > 07     Mark Roberts   Photoshop CS4 Windows 64bit
> > 08     steve harley  Photoshop CS4 wants "Creative 
> > Suite 4 Design Standard" if available Mac
> > 09  LR paul stenquist  Lightroom 2  Mac
> > 10     Joseph Tainter  CS4 Windows
> > 11     Lou Billing  LR2  windows xp
> > 12     Ken Waller   Photoshop CS4 for windows.
> > 13     Cymen Vig  Cymen Vig  LR2 and Photoshop Mac
> > 14     Marnie  CS4 windows xp
> >
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Re: one more update

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "John Sessoms"

Subject: Re: one more update



From: David J Brooks

Can you still get CS2.

I'm guessing not.

Dave


Not directly from Adobe, but it's still available ... new copies that 
never sold, and used copies.


Amazon's showing 1 new from $1395.00 and 1 used from $649.00

Gotta' wonder sometimes what these people are thinking, 'cause Amazon's 
selling new Photoshop CS4 for $634.49 on the same page, plus there's a 
sponsored link to "SoftwareKing" for CS4 "Now Only $394".


Upgrade from CS, CS2 or CS3 to CS4 is $199 from Adobe or $189.99 from 
Amazon.


There are also academic discounts if you can qualify.


A word to the wise:
CS4 is a little buggy on XP.
Prone to crashing for no apparent reason with some of the filters I use.
I'm actually back to CS3 for my portrait work because I can't use the 
Portraiture filter with CS4 without the program crashing.


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Re: PESO 2009 - 184 - GDG

[David J Brooks]

Same here.

Dave

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:19 AM, frank theriault
 wrote:

> Very subtle, but I like the way the shakers are slightly misaligned
> from the pattern on the tabletop.  Has something of a non-conformist
> air to it.
>
> Beautifully rendered, as always.
>
> cheers,
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Re: GESO - F'n Fast & Furious. Part three

[David J Brooks]

Really like 1 2 and 4.

Dave

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Tim Øsleby  wrote:
> This blogpost concludes the serie
> http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2009/11/fn-fast-furious-hst-kick-off-2009-part.html
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> The light guy gave me a tough time in this last set. The colors where
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Re: PESO 2009 - 184 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Thank you!

Godfrey

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Christine  Aguila
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> Excellent, Godfrey.  Love the texture in the table, composition perfect, and
> I think it's shot from just the right angle.  Rendering excellent as usual.
> Cheers, Christine
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" 
> To: "SeePhoto Talk" ; "PAW Picture-A-Week project"
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> ; "DUG" 
> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 6:43 PM
> Subject: PESO 2009 - 184 - GDG
>
>
>> a new blog post and photo ...
>>
>>  http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/pepper-and-salt-on-turned-aluminum
>>
>> comments always appreciated, thanks for looking!
>>
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Re: one more update

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On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 1:08 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> From: David J Brooks

> There are also academic discounts if you can qualify.

You've read my posts. Not qualified.:-)

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Re: PESO - Yosemite Traditional

[paul stenquist]

I like the color. Beautiful scene. Well done.
Paul
On Nov 19, 2009, at 12:07 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 11/18/2009 8:51:26 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
> cagu...@earthlink.net writes:
> 
> Another beautiful landscape, Marnie.  Excellent work.  I  actually prefer 
> the 
> color, but took a peek at the bw, and it does look  nice.  Could go with 
> either one.  cheers,  Christine
> =
> Thanks, Christine!
> 
> I actually prefer the  color too. But any time I show a B&W conversion on 
> this list it seems to get  response. 
> 
> Marnie aka Doe ;-)
> 
> - Original Message -  
> From: 
> To: 
> Sent:  Monday, November 16, 2009 1:43 PM
> Subject: PESO - Yosemite  Traditional
> 
> 
>> One more before I go to a GESO.
>> 
>> This  is  called "tunnel view" because it is taken near a tunnel above  
> the
>> valley. A  common shot.
>> 
>> The first day I was  there, there were no clouds, the second  day there
>> were. So I ran  back and retook this. But it was later in the day than 
>> when I
>> took it on the first day, so there were more shadows. Actually, I have 
>> tons
>> of shots of this view and not sure this is the best  one.
>> 
>> El Captian  on the left, Half Dome in the back, and  Bridalveil Falls on 
>> the
>> right.
>> 
>> It  is  interesting when you are high up, you don't see what is on the
>> valley  floor  (two roads, camping sites, places to stay, i.e. one of 
> three  
>> lodges
>> might be  visible from this spot). All you see are  the  trees.
>> 
>> Color:
>> http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/tunnel1.htm
>> 
>> B&W:
>> http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/tunnel2.htm
>> 
>> Somehow  I feel I could have done the B&W conversion  better.
>> 
>> Comments  welcome.
>> 
>> Marnie aka  Doe  :-)
> 
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Re: one more update

[John Sessoms]

From: David J Brooks

Can you still get CS2.

I'm guessing not.

Dave


Not directly from Adobe, but it's still available ... new copies that 
never sold, and used copies.


Amazon's showing 1 new from $1395.00 and 1 used from $649.00

Gotta' wonder sometimes what these people are thinking, 'cause Amazon's 
selling new Photoshop CS4 for $634.49 on the same page, plus there's a 
sponsored link to "SoftwareKing" for CS4 "Now Only $394".


Upgrade from CS, CS2 or CS3 to CS4 is $199 from Adobe or $189.99 from 
Amazon.


There are also academic discounts if you can qualify.


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Re: GESO - F'n Fast & Furious. Part three

[Charles Robinson]

On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:06, Tim Øsleby wrote:

> This blogpost concludes the serie
> http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2009/11/fn-fast-furious-hst-kick-off-2009-part.html
> 
> The light guy gave me a tough time in this last set. The colors where
> pointing in all different directions, so I had to play a lot with them
> to get acceptable results.
> 
> I saw no choice except going for an "artistic" look. If you can't beat
> the light man, join him ;-)
> 
> The first picture is what really gave me a challenge. I loved the
> pose, but he isn't 100% sharp, and the background nearly killed the
> shot. I ended up focusing on the guy by turning down the green in the
> background. So the background is now close to B&W. I think I also
> desaturated the whole scene a bit, but I'm not sure about that.
> 

It all looks really good, Tim.  

If you hadn't told me what you'd done for the first shot, I'd have assumed I 
was seeing the scene "as shot" - but now that you mention it, I can see that 
the drummer is a shade of grey.  Ah well it works.


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Re: PESO - Gallery

[Fernando]

Beautiful

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 9:29 PM, frank theriault
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> My second (and last) PESO tonight.  Sorry about having more than one,
> but I'm excited about getting back a roll of film.  Remember that
> feeling?  It's amazing!
>
> Anyway, I walked into a new coffee shop (not just "new to me", rather,
> "just opened") in Toronto's Kensington Market.  He's got a beautiful
> space and (as you'll see) shows art.  The espresso machine, counter
> and stools are half-way toward the back so that looking out the front
> all one sees is framed art and the big window onto the street.  I
> won't say any more, or why liked what I saw;  hopefully you'll see and
> feel what I did:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/11/gallery.html
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>
> cheers,
> frank
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RE: Totally OT: Glad I don't live in California

[John Sessoms]

From: "Bill Sawyer"

Thanks for the support, young feller - If I'da known they was takin'
pictures, I woulda put my teeth in.

Bill Sawyer

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There are starving old people all over the country. It doesn't have much to
do with California.


The first thought that occurred to me was this is some out of work actor 
doing the Martin Landau bit from the old Mission Impossible TV show.


When I looked it up, the geezer looks like current photos of Martin Landau.

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RE: PESO - Dig Those Goggles!

[John Sessoms]

From: frank theriault

I know I post lots of pans of various vehicles passing me by on the
street:  scooters, bikes, motorcycles, cars, various forms of public
transit.  I hope they aren't getting boring, but to me each features
something a bit different or unusual.  This young lady on the Vespa
had the coolest goggles ever!

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/11/dig-those-goggles.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.


I think that's the same young lady you shot last summer (?), dressed for 
the weather.


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RE: PESO: Last flight of the Brooklands Vickers Vimy

[John Sessoms]

From: "Chris Mitchell"

> It is a shame that old plane is going to be grounded. Still, better a
> museum than the breakers.
> 

It's a replica, built in 1994. It was categorised as "experimental" with a
lifetime limit of flying hours which has now been reached.

Here's info about its history:
http://www.brooklands100.org/aviation/vimy/specification.htm



I remember reading about Alcock & Brown when I was growing up.



Here's a rest of the world friendly video of the flight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eZgoDDH6Z8


My usual luck - "An error occurred,please try again later."

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Re: peso tammisaurus

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 11/19/2009 2:37:53 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
l...@red4est.com writes:
Things got a bit silly  tonight, but I rather like the colors in  this
one:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4116467165/in/set-72157622834615448/



That's  a fun shot.

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Re: PESO - Yosemite Traditional

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 11/18/2009 8:51:26 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
cagu...@earthlink.net writes:

Another beautiful landscape, Marnie.  Excellent work.  I  actually prefer 
the 
color, but took a peek at the bw, and it does look  nice.  Could go with 
either one.  cheers,  Christine
=
Thanks, Christine!

I actually prefer the  color too. But any time I show a B&W conversion on 
this list it seems to get  response. 

Marnie aka Doe ;-)

- Original Message -  
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> One more before I go to a GESO.
>
> This  is  called "tunnel view" because it is taken near a tunnel above  
the
> valley. A  common shot.
>
> The first day I was  there, there were no clouds, the second  day there
> were. So I ran  back and retook this. But it was later in the day than 
> when I
>  took it on the first day, so there were more shadows. Actually, I have 
>  tons
> of shots of this view and not sure this is the best  one.
>
> El Captian  on the left, Half Dome in the back, and  Bridalveil Falls on 
> the
> right.
>
> It  is  interesting when you are high up, you don't see what is on the
> valley  floor  (two roads, camping sites, places to stay, i.e. one of 
three  
> lodges
> might be  visible from this spot). All you see are  the  trees.
>
> Color:
>  http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/tunnel1.htm
>
>  B&W:
>  http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/tunnel2.htm
>
>  Somehow  I feel I could have done the B&W conversion  better.
>
> Comments  welcome.
>
> Marnie aka  Doe  :-)


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Re: peso tammisaurus

[Bob Sullivan]

Small (Fun Size) Tyrannosaurs in modern attire?  :-)
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:39 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> Things got a bit silly tonight, but I rather like the colors in this
> one:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4116467165/in/set-72157622834615448/
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Re: Mini PDML Meet - Jaume comes to Haifa

[Bob Sullivan]

Boris,
I especially enjoyed Haifa Bay in HDR.
Regards,  Bob S.

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> Have a look here:
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/11/mini-pdml-haifa-jaume.html
>
> :-).
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Re: OT: Leonids and Crepuscular Rays

[Bob Sullivan]

Thanks Dan,
Beautiful pictures and I spent some time on the Earth Science Picture
of the Day page.
We were in San Francisco on Saturday and Sunday and enjoyed the scenery.
Regards,  Bob S.

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> Some great photography today on the Astronomy Picture of the Day page:
>
> http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/
>
> and the Earth Science Picture of the Day page:
>
> http://epod.usra.edu/index.html
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> Dan
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Re: OT: Leonids and Crepuscular Rays

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On Nov 19, 2009, at 8:00, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

> Some great photography today on the Astronomy Picture of the Day page:
> 
> http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/
> 

Yow - that's a 38-second, ISO 1000 shot.  D700.  Looks nice.

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Re: number of images/shutter clicks in k7 ? or istDS?

[eckinator]

same thing for them all, look for an exif record called 'shutter count'
cheers
ecke

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> How does one determine the total number of shutter clicks/images taken
> in K7?
>
> Thank you,
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Re: number of images/shutter clicks in k7 ?

[eckinator]

exiftool also works like a charm =)

2009/11/19 Igor Roshchin :
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> Hi All,
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> How does one determine the total number of shutter clicks/images taken
> in K7?
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> Thank you,
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Re: number of images/shutter clicks in k7 ?

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Subject: number of images/shutter clicks in k7 ?




Hi All,

How does one determine the total number of shutter clicks/images taken
in K7?


Download and install a program called PhotoMe, which will read all the Exif 
data available in a camera file. The actual number of exposure cycles is 
tucked away in the Exif data.


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RE: number of images/shutter clicks in k7 ? or istDS?

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Hi All,

How does one determine the total number of shutter clicks/images taken
in K7?

Thank you,

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number of images/shutter clicks in k7 ?

[Igor Roshchin]

Hi All,

How does one determine the total number of shutter clicks/images taken
in K7?

Thank you,

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Re: peso tammisaurus

[David J Brooks]

Nice lighting, clean shot, and great colours

Dave

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:39 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> Things got a bit silly tonight, but I rather like the colors in this
> one:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4116467165/in/set-72157622834615448/
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Re: PESO - Dig Those Goggles!

[David J Brooks]

Great shot. Well timed

Dave

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 9:02 PM, frank theriault
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> I know I post lots of pans of various vehicles passing me by on the
> street:  scooters, bikes, motorcycles, cars, various forms of public
> transit.  I hope they aren't getting boring, but to me each features
> something a bit different or unusual.  This young lady on the Vespa
> had the coolest goggles ever!
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/11/dig-those-goggles.html
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.
>
> cheers,
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Re: PESO - Gallery

[David J Brooks]

I like it. It looks like a gallery looking into a gallery

Dave

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 9:29 PM, frank theriault
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> My second (and last) PESO tonight.  Sorry about having more than one,
> but I'm excited about getting back a roll of film.  Remember that
> feeling?  It's amazing!
>
> Anyway, I walked into a new coffee shop (not just "new to me", rather,
> "just opened") in Toronto's Kensington Market.  He's got a beautiful
> space and (as you'll see) shows art.  The espresso machine, counter
> and stools are half-way toward the back so that looking out the front
> all one sees is framed art and the big window onto the street.  I
> won't say any more, or why liked what I saw;  hopefully you'll see and
> feel what I did:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/11/gallery.html
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: PESO - Dig Those Goggles!

[ann sanfedele]

I see you are reverting to type :-)

this is the motorized version of your Asian Lady of a few years ago.

Therautian blur yum!

ann

frank theriault wrote:


I know I post lots of pans of various vehicles passing me by on the
street:  scooters, bikes, motorcycles, cars, various forms of public
transit.  I hope they aren't getting boring, but to me each features
something a bit different or unusual.  This young lady on the Vespa
had the coolest goggles ever!

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/11/dig-those-goggles.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

cheers,
frank

 





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Re: PESO - Dig Those Goggles!

[Christian]

frank theriault wrote:

I know I post lots of pans of various vehicles passing me by on the
street:  scooters, bikes, motorcycles, cars, various forms of public
transit.  I hope they aren't getting boring, but to me each features
something a bit different or unusual.  This young lady on the Vespa
had the coolest goggles ever!

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/11/dig-those-goggles.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.


Enjoyed it immensely!  Love the goggles!  

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Re: one more update

[David J Brooks]

Can you still get CS2.

I'm guessing not.

Dave

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> - Forwarded message from "Michael
>
>
>> Is this Photoshop CS4, or is the CS Creative Suite?
>
> in general, saying "CS4" or "CS" by itself implies one of the Creative Suite
> editions (such as Design Premium, Production Premium, or Web Premium).  the
> individual titles like Photoshop would be "Photoshop CS4" (indicating the
> current version, which is the same Photoshop that would be in a Suite edition,
> just all by itself).  i can only buy the current version of any title anyway,
> so buying Photoshop would necessarily be "Photoshop CS4".
>
> Lightroom is the only title that's one box for both Mac and Windows. for
> everything else, Mac or Windows must be specified.
>
> -mike
>
> - End forwarded message -
>
> So it looks like
>
> 01  PS Adam Montoya  Adam Montoya photoshop windows (LR 
> as backup)
> 02  PS Godfrey DiGiorgi  Photoshop CS4 Mac
> 06  LR Rob Studdert  one copy of LR and one of PS 
> Windows
> 09  LR paul stenquist  Lightroom 2  Mac
>
> unless Adam had decided he wanted LR instead of PS, or anybody chooses one of 
> the other titles
>
> 01  PS Adam Montoya  Adam Montoya photoshop windows (LR 
> as backup)
> 02  PS Godfrey DiGiorgi  Photoshop CS4 Mac
> 03     Stan Halpin  Photoshop license (Mac)
> 04     Gonz  cs4 which platform?
> 05     Luiz Felipe  photoshop windows
> 06  LR Rob Studdert  one copy of LR and one of PS 
> Windows
> 07     Mark Roberts   Photoshop CS4 Windows 64bit
> 08     steve harley  Photoshop CS4 wants "Creative Suite 
> 4 Design Standard" if available Mac
> 09  LR paul stenquist  Lightroom 2  Mac
> 10     Joseph Tainter  CS4 Windows
> 11     Lou Billing  LR2  windows xp
> 12     Ken Waller   Photoshop CS4 for windows.
> 13     Cymen Vig  Cymen Vig  LR2 and Photoshop Mac
> 14     Marnie  CS4 windows xp
>
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Re: PESO - Dig Those Goggles!

[mike wilson]

 frank theriault  wrote: 
> I know I post lots of pans of various vehicles passing me by on the
> street:  scooters, bikes, motorcycles, cars, various forms of public
> transit.  I hope they aren't getting boring, but to me each features
> something a bit different or unusual.  This young lady on the Vespa
> had the coolest goggles ever!
> 
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/11/dig-those-goggles.html

Chromed civilian version of standard MKVII/MkVIII RAF goggles, as worn by 
discerning, imperialist fighter and bomber pilots the world over.
http://www.danielsww2.com/default/images/TypeC.JPG

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Re: PESOs - Cemetery Stroll

[Rick Womer]

Thanks, Paul.  I have sRGB checked in the Export dialog box; need to 
troubleshoot things step-by-step when I have some time (I hope!) this weekend.

Rick

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> From: paul stenquist 
> Subject: Re: PESOs - Cemetery Stroll
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 10:29 PM
> BTW, I like these, especially the
> first and the third, and they look good on my laptop (which
> is calibrated).
> Paul
> On Nov 18, 2009, at 10:16 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
> 
> > Bob,
> > 
> > For some reason, I've been losing contrast and
> saturation lately somewhere between the DNGs in Lightroom
> and the JPGs on photo.net.  I'll try to figure out
> where the problem is this weekend.
> > 
> > In Lightroom, the yellow leaves are saturated to the
> edge of blowing out.  They sure didn't come through
> that way in the PESOs, though.
> > 
> > Rick
> > 
> > http://photo.net/photos/RickW
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Wed, 11/18/09, Bob Sullivan 
> wrote:
> > 
> >> From: Bob Sullivan 
> >> Subject: Re: PESOs - Cemetery Stroll
> >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> >> Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 5:30 PM
> >> Rick,
> >> Have you tried the saturation slider?
> >> Getting the fall colors thru is a challenge..
> >> That Ginko tree is especially attractive.
> >> Regards,  Bob S.
> >> 
> >> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Rick Womer 
> >> wrote:
> >>> It was a lovely, warm afternoon in Philly,
> after four
> >> days of rain.  I took a photo walk in the
> nearby cemetery.
> >>> 
> >>> A gingko in autumn glory:
> >>> 
> >>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10192602
> >>> 
> >>> A small and somewhat tardy maple:
> >>> 
> >>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10192611
> >>> 
> >>> Columns of the cemetery's mansion:
> >>> 
> >>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10192710
> >>> 
> >>> (All K10D + 50-200 or 16-45)
> >>> 
> >>> For some reason, I can't get the luminous
> colors I see
> >> in Lightroom to survive the conversion to jpg...
> >>> 
> >>> Rick
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
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OT: Leonids and Crepuscular Rays

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Some great photography today on the Astronomy Picture of the Day page:

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/

and the Earth Science Picture of the Day page:

http://epod.usra.edu/index.html

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Re: Battery Point Light

[Jack Davis]

Thanks, Christine.  VERY pleasing to read!

Jack

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> From: Christine Aguila 
> Subject: Re: Battery Point Light
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 8:49 PM
> That's beautiful, Jack.  Love it
> as is.  Terrific light.  Lovely composition. 
> Cheers, Christine
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Jack Davis" 
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 2:46 PM
> Subject: PESO: Battery Point Light
> 
> 
> > Wife and I took another weekend excursion. This time
> to the north coast (CA) and spent yesterday in and around
> Crescent City.
> > Late afternoon on a windy extremely chilly day I took
> another shot at Battery Light. The DA 55~300 is a very light
> non-internal focusing lens. When racked out to 300mm you
> can't breath near it when shooting. A peek through the
> viewfinder showed it to be vibrating continually, but took
> 11 shots (cable switch/2 sec delay) hoping for a moment's
> quiet. The link is to the only shot that appears to have
> been nearly vibration free. I was stubborn enough to not
> want to go larger than f/6.7 (wanted some foreground rock
> detail) nor higher than 200 ISO.
> > This taken just as the sun was sinking into the
> Pacific through a thin blushing persimmon tinted
> atmosphere.
> > 
> > All comments welcome.
> > 
> > Jack
> > 
> > K20, DA 55~300, f/6.7, ISO 200, Bogen 3021 T'pod, Pro
> ball head, full frame (no cropping)
> > 
> > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=450
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Re: peso tammisaurus

[paul stenquist]

I like the light as well. 
Paul
On Nov 19, 2009, at 5:39 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

> Things got a bit silly tonight, but I rather like the colors in this
> one:
> 
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Re: Mini PDML Meet - Jaume comes to Haifa

[paul stenquist]

Nice pics. Looks like you had a great evening.
Paul
On Nov 19, 2009, at 12:27 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> Have a look here: 
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/11/mini-pdml-haifa-jaume.html
> 
> :-).
> 
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GESO - F'n Fast & Furious. Part three

[Tim Øsleby]

This blogpost concludes the serie
http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2009/11/fn-fast-furious-hst-kick-off-2009-part.html

The light guy gave me a tough time in this last set. The colors where
pointing in all different directions, so I had to play a lot with them
to get acceptable results.

I saw no choice except going for an "artistic" look. If you can't beat
the light man, join him ;-)

The first picture is what really gave me a challenge. I loved the
pose, but he isn't 100% sharp, and the background nearly killed the
shot. I ended up focusing on the guy by turning down the green in the
background. So the background is now close to B&W. I think I also
desaturated the whole scene a bit, but I'm not sure about that.

I added some grain artifacts by using aggressive sharpening in all of
them. It's rock'n roll dude ;-)


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