Re: Metering - K7

[Boris Liberman]

Bruce, assuming that center weighted simulation with matrix metering
sensor is done reasonably well, I see no reason to have major
discrepancies between center weighted meters of various cameras. Thus,
Bill's mention surprises me as well...

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Bruce Dayton  wrote:
> Good information Boris.  I think my style has not seen the metering
> problems you and Paul have reported.  I used the *istD, K10D, K20D
> and K-x.  But I primarily use Center Weighted metering.  I have not
> noticed much of any problems when used in the same fashion as the
> film cameras - ie: be aware of your metering and subject reflectivity.
>
> That was why I was surprised by Bill Robb's mention of a difference
> with the Center weighted metering on the K7.
>
> I can say that I have been trying the matrix metering on the K-x a
> bit and it seems to do pretty well.  It probably is an improvement
> over the K20D.
>
> Anyway, I appreciate all replies to help me understand better.
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Bruce
>
>
> Monday, March 1, 2010, 9:42:27 PM, you wrote:
>
> BL> Bruce, I don't have K20D but I have K10D. So my comparison would be
> BL> between K10 and K-7. Here goes.
>
> BL> Generally, my shooting workflow with K10D was to get on location, make
> BL> a shot or two and watch the histogram. Then I would usually decide to
> BL> give it something between -0.3 to -0.7 Ev of compensation. Then I
> BL> would go on shooting. If I notice the scene somewhat different from
> BL> those few initial shots, I would review the histogram and reconsider
> BL> the compensation. Thusly, I would have spent lots of time chimping and
> BL> mostly chimping for histogram. Number of times I would have lost a
> BL> shot because I wasn't speedy enough to notice the difference in
> BL> lighting. The stability and/or reliability of the meter in K10D had
> BL> much to be desired.
>
> BL> With K-7 I just don't bother. It almost always produces a RAW file
> BL> that can be brought to the good shape in post or simply produces spot
> BL> on exposure. The only thing I need to decide before hand is whether to
> BL> turn on the DR extension. E.g. shooting in that snowy park with
> BL> highlight expansion on and 2/3 of shade expansion proved useful so as
> BL> to not loose bright snow and dark trees. I've lost few shots with K-7
> BL> due to metering, but it is far less a fraction than in case of K10D.
>
> BL> I always shoot in matrix metering in hyper program mode - suits me the 
> best.
>
> BL> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Bruce Dayton
> BL>  wrote:
>>> It has been stated by several K7 owners that the metering has
>>> improved quite a bit over the K20D.  I am curious as to the details
>>> of this difference.  Are we talking about matrix metering and
>>> automatic modes on the camera, or are we talking about center
>>> weighted and manual exposure settings...
>>>
>>> Hopefully you get my gist.  Can those who have noticed this please
>>> enlighten me a bit on what exactly you have noticed?  I can say that
>>> the matrix metering in my K-x seems to do a better job that my K20D -
>>> of course, I mostly use center weighted so I'm not sure if that
>>> matters so much.  Or perhaps I use center weighted because it is more
>>> predictable.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts and ideas are appreciated.
>>>
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>>>
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Re: OT: Congratulations...

[Joseph McAllister]

On Mar 1, 2010, at 15:20 , William Robb wrote:



How nice of them to invite the U. S. so we could garner the MOST   
medals ! [: > }



They had to invite us. We had the television rights.



We wanted to invite you so we could whip your sorry asses at both  
mens and womens hockey. :-)
Just so you know I'm kidding, the only Olympic event I watched was  
Neil Young at the closing ceremony.

I really do think televised sports are for people who have no life.

William Robb



Then you missed the 60 some odd hours of very exciting Curling, you cad!
I congratulate the Canadian Women's Curling team on their winning the  
Silver Medal.

The Canadian men's team gave their Silver Medals away to Norway.

Joseph McAllister
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Genius can, however, be observed as insanity.


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RE: OT - Tea

[Bob W]

[...]
> 
> I'm asking my friend what size package it was that she had, 
> because I've never actually bought loose tea before and have 
> no idea how much I should get.  [...]

One teaspoon (theres a clue in the name!) per person, and one for the pot.
Multiply by the number of pots of tea you want to make. Tea keeps for a long
time as long as you have a decent caddy.

http://www.bettysbypost.com/Tea,4.aspx

Bob


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RE: A400/5.6 Shots a bird

[Bob W]

Avast! Is reporting a trojan (JS:FakeAV-EE [Trj]) on that page
 


> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On 
> Behalf Of frank theriault
> Sent: 02 March 2010 04:17
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> Subject: Re: A400/5.6 Shots a bird
> 
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 4:00 PM, J.C. O'Connell 
>  wrote:
> >
> > Got my A400/5.6 lens about a month ago, took it out today 
> and gave it 
> > a try.
> > It requires extreme care in focussing
> > but it is sharp lens when you do that.
> >
> > Sample image at:
> >
> > http://www.jchriso.com/temp/BIRD02.jpg
> >
> > this is my backyard, gonna take it to the beach next week 
> if I get the 
> > time
> 
> Damn, that ~is~ a sharp image!
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
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Re: OT/2: back from repair

[Tim Øsleby]

Thank you for the good news.

Don't overdo the R&R. To much reading and reviewing can be stressful.
And stress is not what you need now.

Just kidding. I had to look R&R up, and reading and reviewing was one
of the suggestions wikipedia made.

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2010/3/1 eckinator :
> 2010/3/1 Tim Øsleby :
>> Haven't seen this thread before.
>> Glad to hear that to you found out what it is.
>> I hope you are feeling better now.
>
> Actually I was just pondering whether or not to post an update yet -
> there was finally news today that are hopefully worth their weight in
> something... so you just pushed me over the edge and I'll post. =)
>
> EEG and all other tests done on me were 100% OK today. The
> inflammation appears to be in remission so the worst is over. There is
> minor damage visible at this point but of a kind that can go or be
> trained away. More may or may not come but odds are in my favor. Lab
> results are still pending but the last set was 95% OK. All in all they
> say it went very mildly and could have been much worse so I've decided
> to consider myself lucky. For now, they recommend lots of R&R, sports,
> no stress, a healthy nutrition and lifestyle and so on - I can tell
> you, I SO need that...
>
> Oh and guess what:
>
> I am actually neurologically left handed. I've lived right handed for
> almost 40 years... They call mine a concealed left handedness. Could
> also mean someone or in fact even I myself by manner of imitation
> trained me into adopted right handedness. The latter would mean I
> could retrain to left if I decided to but I am unsure of the drawbacks
> or benefits so I'll take my time on the whole thing, the former means
> there is some potential yet untapped to make me more versatile.
> Whatever it is, the prospect of finding out is very exciting to me...
>
> Cheers
> Ecke
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Re: OT - Tea

[eckinator]

also read this:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090222144538AANpafR
that answer is somewhat correct - cheap crapola tea tends to be little
bits and pieces of leftover/broken so it has higher density and weighs
more to the teaspoon, the more expensive it gets the less weight per
teaspoon but compensated by higher yield from the superior quality...
you can figure a span from 50 cups to 100 mugs per 100 grs, it is a
broad scale depending on how strong you like it, how cheap you are ]=)
and how good your particular tea is in taste and yield.
cheers
ecke

2010/3/2 Bob W :
> [...]
>>
>> I'm asking my friend what size package it was that she had,
>> because I've never actually bought loose tea before and have
>> no idea how much I should get.  [...]
>
> One teaspoon (theres a clue in the name!) per person, and one for the pot.
> Multiply by the number of pots of tea you want to make. Tea keeps for a long
> time as long as you have a decent caddy.
>
> http://www.bettysbypost.com/Tea,4.aspx
>
> Bob
>
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Re: OT - Tea

[Keith Whaley]

Bob W wrote:

[...]
I'm asking my friend what size package it was that she had, 
because I've never actually bought loose tea before and have 
no idea how much I should get.  [...]



One teaspoon (theres a clue in the name!) per person, and one for the pot.
Multiply by the number of pots of tea you want to make. Tea keeps for a long
time as long as you have a decent caddy.

http://www.bettysbypost.com/Tea,4.aspx

Bob


You mean brewed tea?

Or, is the caddy for storing tea leaves? I suspect the latter...

keith   <== drinks a pot o’ green tea daily.  :-D

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Re: Metering - K7

[William Robb]

Yup, it sure should.

William Robb
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Should the second K7 be K20?
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- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Dayton"

Subject: Re: Metering - K7



Your input is much appreciated.  I am somewhat surprised that you are
seeing such a difference with center weighted metering.  It would
seem like that is something Pentax would be able to do reasonably well
whether it was digital or film.  I wonder if perhaps there is
something more to do with dynamic range of the sensor on the K7.
Earlier digital models may have had narrower range than the current
K7 which would show up as metering inconsistencies.



The DR of the K7 doesn't seem any (or at least not appreciably) longer 
than

the K7. The new meter is accurate, the old one either isn't, or is very
easily fooled.

William Robb


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Re: OT/2: back from repair

[William Robb]

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Subject: Re: OT/2: back from repair





I can't imagine the torment that poor lefties went through being
forced to write with their right hand.  And later consequences?  Who
knows?


My brother was one of those. It ruined his life.
He became an accountant.

William Robb

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OT PESO - Spectre

[David Savage]

G'day All,

>From down town Fremantle near sunset on a hot summer day:



Direct Link (~300kb)



D700, AF-D 35mm f2, 1/1600 f6.3, ISO 400.

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: OT/2: back from repair

[eckinator]

2010/3/1 P N Stenquist :
>
> Good to hear you're on the mend.
> I think the Yankees are looking for a switch hitter:-).
> Paul

ROFL... good one! I'm too old but it sure sounds tempting...
Cheers
Ecke

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Re: PDML Photo Annual, Part 2 begins

[Matthew Hunt]

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:

> But beyond that, the *quality* of what we received is way
> up. You've all risen to the occasion, apparently.

I wouldn't have thought that was possible, but it's good news indeed!
Thanks again for your hard work.

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Re: Wind Rows

[John Graves]

Larry Colen wrote:


On Mar 1, 2010, at 8:31 PM, John Graves wrote:


Frank,

It didn't miss...It/they (that a clump of 3 three trees) blew out the 
window in the end, hit the top of my chimney, and tore out and chewed 
up the rail on the end of the porch, as well as the concrete holding 
it up..  My ham radio vertical is now closer to a modern aluminum 
sculpture.


Time to invest in a slinky dipole.


Funny you should say that.  I have a dipole (actually a G5RV) up 45 ft 
in some neighboring trees.  It is fine. So I still have communications.




The wind sounded as though we were living underneath a railroad for 
about an hour.


But we are still here and just waiting for the adjuster.  Then I can 
schedule the tree guy.  So what is a guy to doother that take 
photographssigh???


There are easier ways to branch out to new photographic subjects.


I would rather leaf the whole subject alone.

If we get good light today, I want to get some pictures of the 
rootballs.  I need to get to the bottom of it!







John Graves
WA1JG
jh.gra...@verizon.net

frank theriault wrote:
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 11:16 PM, John Graves  
wrote:

When things get interesting, it helps to get a camera out.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jhg2/sets/72157623535053242/

Is that your house the tree missed by about an inch and a half?
Whoever it is, that homeowner is damned lucky!
cheers,
frank

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Re: peso - girl

[paul stenquist]

Nice moment, well captured. Good conversion as well.
Paul
On Mar 2, 2010, at 1:46 AM, Sasha Sobol wrote:

> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4395234619/
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Re: PESO - Sharing Subway Tunes?

[paul stenquist]

A nice shot of an intimate moment.
Paul
On Mar 1, 2010, at 11:42 PM, frank theriault wrote:

> I find people and their personal electronic devices to be most
> interesting, especially when those devices are being shared.
> 
> I love traveling on the subway as it's a great place for people-watching.
> 
> I think the woman in this photo is beautiful:
> 
> http://knarf-underground.blogspot.com/2010/03/sharing-subway-tunes.html
> 
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: OT/2: back from repair

[eckinator]

>
> Remember, left-handed people are in their right minds.

that is where it all took place... and the correlations brought it to
light. well it explains how well i handled my small axe cutting
branches also with my left arm when my right arm was exhausted and a
bunch of other stuff such as eating left handed that I always sort of
ignored knowing I live 90% RH'd.

>> They call mine a concealed left handedness. Could
>> also mean someone or in fact even I myself by manner of imitation
>> trained me into adopted right handedness.

add: she also said I could be ambidextrous but it wasn't as probable

> When I started school back in the dark ages, my parents told my grade
> one teacher that I was left handed and they did not want her to
> "train" me to become right-handed.  Apparently it wasn't uncommon for
> teachers to do things like tie kids' left hands behind their backs so
> they couldn't use them to write, or to actually punish children for
> holding pens and pencils in their left hand.  My teacher told my
> parents she believed in letting children write with their preferred
> hand.

that is good! I think you were really lucky in that respect and also
with your choice of parents =)

reading up a bit I found a number of websites emerging around the
retraining I mentioned that say there are indications that inverted
lefties often tend to ADHS like issues, anxiety disorders, inability
to make anything of extraordinary gifts and so forth because the brain
is still a leftie and has to turn everything around and sort of work
within a foreign functional habitat... of course some of this is a
sales spin and I can't judge these things but I can imagine at least
part of it is true.

> I can't imagine the torment that poor lefties went through being
> forced to write with their right hand.  And later consequences?  Who
> knows?

there are reports about the changes in their lives from those
retrained to left. I could reread and tell you the gist of what they
say??

>> The latter would mean I
>> could retrain to left if I decided to but I am unsure of the drawbacks
>> or benefits so I'll take my time on the whole thing, the former means
>> there is some potential yet untapped to make me more versatile.
>> Whatever it is, the prospect of finding out is very exciting to me...
>
> Certainly are interesting times for you - and some interesting
> decisions to be made!

yes, indeed. of course "best of both worlds" ideas come to mind but I
think this would boil down to a conscious choice

cheers!
ecke

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Re: A400/5.6 Shots a bird

[Jack Davis]

I'm currently having problems doing so. Was not the case in the past.

Jack

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> Subject: Re: A400/5.6 Shots a bird
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> Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 7:54 PM
> 
> On Mar 1, 2010, at 10:51 PM, John Celio wrote:
> 
> > JCO, every time I try to visit your website, my
> browser gives me a virus/malware warning.  This time, I
> clicked through the warning since it was just a jpg, but
> then AVG said it blocked a threat from your site.  It
> said, "Threat name: Exploit Rogue MCOS (type 1027)". 
> For what it's worth, I use Chrome.
> > 
> > Some brief googling of the above message says it's
> likely there's a virus or malware on my PC, but I've seen
> this warning from your site on multiple computers, so you
> really need to check your website for malicious files.
> > 
> > John
> > 
> For what it's worth, I clicked right onto JCO's pics with
> no problems. 
> Paul
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> > Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 1:00 PM
> > Subject: A400/5.6 Shots a bird
> > 
> > 
> >> 
> >> Got my A400/5.6 lens about a month ago,
> >> took it out today and gave it a try.
> >> It requires extreme care in focussing
> >> but it is sharp lens when you do that.
> >> 
> >> Sample image at:
> >> 
> >> http://www.jchriso.com/temp/BIRD02.jpg
> >> 
> >> this is my backyard, gonna take it to the
> >> beach next week if I get the time
> >> 
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Re: PESO - Sharing Subway Tunes?

[Igor Roshchin]

What Paul said.
Igor


Tue Mar 2 06:31:51 CST 2010
paul stenquist wrote:

A nice shot of an intimate moment.
Paul
On Mar 1, 2010, at 11:42 PM, frank theriault wrote:

> I find people and their personal electronic devices to be most
> interesting, especially when those devices are being shared.
> 
> I love traveling on the subway as it's a great place for people-watching.
> 
> I think the woman in this photo is beautiful:
> 
> http://knarf-underground.blogspot.com/2010/03/sharing-subway-tunes.html
> 
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: K7 movies

[Thibouille]

Mmm I remember I opened them directly in iMovie.

The file format is AVI but the most important thing is the codec, as
some others said, Mjpeg. It produces huge files but are very easy to
edit on the computer since that codec doesn't require a lot of power
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Edit: I just imported an AVI/Mjpeg file straight from K-7 into iMovie'09:
File -> Import -> Movie -> select AVI file.
It will convert to MOV/Mjpeg automatically (and reduce resolution if
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On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 11:49 PM, paul stenquist
 wrote:
> I shot a movie of Grace playing in the snow today with the K7. I have a 
> magnifier hood for the LCD display which provides a good look and makes 
> manual focus fairly easy. But since I shot with the DA* 16-50 at f11, 
> focusing wasn't a priority. Sound and pic are both very nice on my computer. 
> Just three minutes of video is a huge file of course, so I can't really post 
> it, but it was a good bit of fun. Have to find a way to edit and make some HD 
> DVD copies.
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Re: peso - girl

[Igor Roshchin]

Sasha,

I saw this photo earlier, when you posted the photo of the seals.
I liked that photo, but the composition was a bit disturbing to me eye.

I am not sure, - it's probably the combination of the light and
the details, - but I'd like to have some more on the lower side
and probably a bit on the left side. 
Quite possible that I expect her eyes to be in the center of the photo.
It is possible that if there were more light on the hair, it would
work better with this composition.

Igor

On Mar 2, 2010, at 1:46 AM, Sasha Sobol wrote:

> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4395234619/
> 
> critique and comments welcome
> 
> --Sasha

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Re: PESO - Shopping in the Snow

[Bob Sullivan]

I think the guy is an interesting counterpoint.
I spent time examining his clothing and head position versus the ladies.
Aged with a cane and knit hats vs youth without.
Interesting catch Frank.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Sasha Sobol  wrote:
> I like the ladies, snowflakes are great.
> But somehow the guy at right seems not fitting here.
> May be would be better without him?
> Or with more context for him
>
> --S
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Christian  wrote:
>> On 3/1/2010 7:11 PM, frank theriault wrote:
>>>
>>> We got some snow late last week.  Saturday it was mildish, but in the
>>> afternoon it was coming down pretty good.  I took this photo:
>>>
>>> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/03/shopping-in-snow.html
>>>
>>> Sunday was mild and most of it all melted.
>>>
>>> Oh well...
>>>
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> frank
>>>
>>
>> I like it but quite honestly I've seen enough snow around here to keep me
>> going for several winters... :-)
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Re: Wind Rows

[Igor Roshchin]

Tue Mar 2 06:33:46 CST 2010
John Graves wrote:

> Larry Colen wrote:
> > 
> > On Mar 1, 2010, at 8:31 PM, John Graves wrote:
> > 
> >> But we are still here and just waiting for the adjuster.  Then I can 
> >> schedule the tree guy.  So what is a guy to doother that take 
> >> photographssigh???
> > 
> > There are easier ways to branch out to new photographic subjects.

... to have some new shoots.

> 
> I would rather leaf the whole subject alone.
> 
> If we get good light today, I want to get some pictures of the 
> rootballs.  I need to get to the bottom of it!

Let me know if you'd find any square roots.


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Re: Metering - K7

[David J Brooks]

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> Bruce, I don't have K20D but I have K10D. So my comparison would be
> between K10 and K-7. Here goes.
>
> Generally, my shooting workflow with K10D was to get on location, make
> a shot or two and watch the histogram. Then I would usually decide to
> give it something between -0.3 to -0.7 Ev of compensation. Then I
> would go on shooting. If I notice the scene somewhat different from
> those few initial shots, I would review the histogram and reconsider
> the compensation. Thusly, I would have spent lots of time chimping and
> mostly chimping for histogram. Number of times I would have lost a
> shot because I wasn't speedy enough to notice the difference in
> lighting. The stability and/or reliability of the meter in K10D had
> much to be desired.

Sounds like my work flow only back ward. I need +0.3 to =0.7 and +1.0
at times with my K-10D.

Zero EV or +0.3 is pretty much all that is required for D1H, D2H and
D200, if needed at all.

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Re: K7 movies

[P N Stenquist]

On Mar 2, 2010, at 8:58 AM, Thibouille wrote:


Mmm I remember I opened them directly in iMovie.

The file format is AVI but the most important thing is the codec, as
some others said, Mjpeg. It produces huge files but are very easy to
edit on the computer since that codec doesn't require a lot of power
to compress/decompress.

Edit: I just imported an AVI/Mjpeg file straight from K-7 into  
iMovie'09:

File -> Import -> Movie -> select AVI file.
It will convert to MOV/Mjpeg automatically (and reduce resolution if
you ask it to do so).



I think I have '08 iMovie on my desktop, but '09 on the laptop. I'll  
try it there.

Thanks.
Paul


On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 11:49 PM, paul stenquist
 wrote:
I shot a movie of Grace playing in the snow today with the K7. I  
have a magnifier hood for the LCD display which provides a good  
look and makes manual focus fairly easy. But since I shot with the  
DA* 16-50 at f11, focusing wasn't a priority. Sound and pic are  
both very nice on my computer. Just three minutes of video is a  
huge file of course, so I can't really post it, but it was a good  
bit of fun. Have to find a way to edit and make some HD DVD copies.

Paul
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Re: OT PESO - Spectre

[David J Brooks]

Love the mood, shadow detail and composition on this.

Dave

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 7:15 AM, David Savage  wrote:
> G'day All,
>
> >From down town Fremantle near sunset on a hot summer day:
>
> 
>
> Direct Link (~300kb)
>
> 
>
> D700, AF-D 35mm f2, 1/1600 f6.3, ISO 400.
>
> Enjoy.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
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Re: PDML Photo Annual, Part 2 begins

[David J Brooks]

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
. But beyond that, the *quality* of what we received is way
> up. You've all risen to the occasion, apparently.

So, mine are out then.;-)

>
> The submission period was extended a day, by the way, to give some
> extra time for our "recently hospitalized but now on the mend" Ecke
> (AKA Eckinator). I hope there won't be any objections...

None.

>
> In other news, we also received submissions from someone who *isn't*
> on the PDML and, as far as Doug can tell, never has been! He gets
> several points for ambitiousness, but loses a lot more for treachery
> ;-) I suppose we should consider it a compliment that publication in
> our little project is now so desirable that people are trying to sneak
> in...

So much for secret societies.;-) I have a name in mind, lets guess.
>
> Now the editors will select the photos that get into the book. After
> than, the curator in Chicago will pick the ones for the exhibit. Stay
> tuned.

Cool

Dave
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Re: PESO - Shopping in the Snow

[David J Brooks]

Good snow flake blur.:-)

I like this one very much

Dave

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 7:11 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> We got some snow late last week.  Saturday it was mildish, but in the
> afternoon it was coming down pretty good.  I took this photo:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/03/shopping-in-snow.html
>
> Sunday was mild and most of it all melted.
>
> Oh well...
>
> ;-)
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.
>
> cheers,
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Re: peso - girl

[David J Brooks]

Very nice crisp photo.

Dave

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Re: PESO - Sharing Subway Tunes?

[David J Brooks]

Very good. I like the facial expressions

Dave

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 11:42 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> I find people and their personal electronic devices to be most
> interesting, especially when those devices are being shared.
>
> I love traveling on the subway as it's a great place for people-watching.
>
> I think the woman in this photo is beautiful:
>
> http://knarf-underground.blogspot.com/2010/03/sharing-subway-tunes.html
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.
>
> cheers,
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Re: PDML Photo Annual, Part 2 begins

[mark]

David J Brooks  wrote:

>On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
>> In other news, we also received submissions from someone who *isn't*
>> on the PDML and, as far as Doug can tell, never has been! He gets
>> several points for ambitiousness, but loses a lot more for treachery
>> ;-) I suppose we should consider it a compliment that publication in
>> our little project is now so desirable that people are trying to sneak
>> in...
>
>So much for secret societies.;-) I have a name in mind, lets guess.

If we're a secret society devoted to photography, how could we call
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Re: PDML Photo Annual, Part 2 begins

[Stan Halpin]

Thank you Mark and also your fellow editors.

I was just poking around on your site trying to se the final list of 
contributors. I saw it before when it popped up after I had done my 
submissions, but I can't find a link now that would take me back there...

stan

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> We've closed down the submissions page for the 2010 PSML book. We had
> more participating photographers than last year and more total images
> submitted. But beyond that, the *quality* of what we received is way
> up. You've all risen to the occasion, apparently.
> 
> The submission period was extended a day, by the way, to give some
> extra time for our "recently hospitalized but now on the mend" Ecke
> (AKA Eckinator). I hope there won't be any objections...
> 
> In other news, we also received submissions from someone who *isn't*
> on the PDML and, as far as Doug can tell, never has been! He gets
> several points for ambitiousness, but loses a lot more for treachery
> ;-) I suppose we should consider it a compliment that publication in
> our little project is now so desirable that people are trying to sneak
> in...
> 
> Now the editors will select the photos that get into the book. After
> than, the curator in Chicago will pick the ones for the exhibit. Stay
> tuned.
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PDML Photo Annual, Part 2 begins

[Luiz Felipe]

message from Stan reads:
.
.Thank you Mark and also your fellow editors.
.
.I was just poking around on your site trying to se the final list of 
contributors. I saw it before when it popped up after I had done my 
submissions, but I can't find a link now that would take me back there...
.
.stan

Stan, I had this in my faves, still working for me:

http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/submissions.php

Count my echo in: Thanks a LOT, Mark and all others that make that dream 
possible.

lf

On Mar 1, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

> We've closed down the submissions page for the 2010 PSML book. We had
> more participating photographers than last year and more total images
> submitted. But beyond that, the *quality* of what we received is way
> up. You've all risen to the occasion, apparently.
> 
> The submission period was extended a day, by the way, to give some
> extra time for our "recently hospitalized but now on the mend" Ecke
> (AKA Eckinator). I hope there won't be any objections...
> 
> In other news, we also received submissions from someone who *isn't*
> on the PDML and, as far as Doug can tell, never has been! He gets
> several points for ambitiousness, but loses a lot more for treachery
> ;-) I suppose we should consider it a compliment that publication in
> our little project is now so desirable that people are trying to sneak
> in...
> 
> Now the editors will select the photos that get into the book. After
> than, the curator in Chicago will pick the ones for the exhibit. Stay
> tuned.
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Peso After the snow Feb 27, 2010

[David J Brooks]

Hi all

I took a few shots around the yard after the snow fall we had on
Saturday. Nice big flakes
but gone as soon as the sun came out.

Hereis the first one.:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10753871

Still cannot copy and paste a link from photo.net.

Arg,

Comments welcome

K10D and DA F 50-200

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Re: Metering - K7

[AlunFoto]

2010/3/1 Bruce Dayton :
> It has been stated by several K7 owners that the metering has
> improved quite a bit over the K20D.  I am curious as to the details
> of this difference.  Are we talking about matrix metering and
> automatic modes on the camera, or are we talking about center
> weighted and manual exposure settings...

For my part it's matrix metering. My experience is that the metering
is less sensitive to small, bright light sources, like specular
reflexes, streetlights, etc. I also find that the metering is more
consistent across pictures of the same scene with minor variations in
composition, for example, than was the case for K10/20.

In my opinion this is no less than one can expect from raising the
number of metering sites from 11 to 77. :-) It gives a lot more room
for weighting of the metering loci.

I'm also very satisfied with the flash metering of the K-7, but I
can't compare this to the performance of K10/20 because I apparently
had a slightly malfunctioning flash at the time. All I can say is that
I like it the way it happens in the K-7.

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Re: PDML Photo Annual, Part 2 begins

[Miserere]

Surely we'd be called The Asahi...  :-)

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On 02/03/2010, m...@robertstech.com  wrote:
> David J Brooks  wrote:
>
>>On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
>>> In other news, we also received submissions from someone who *isn't*
>>> on the PDML and, as far as Doug can tell, never has been! He gets
>>> several points for ambitiousness, but loses a lot more for treachery
>>> ;-) I suppose we should consider it a compliment that publication in
>>> our little project is now so desirable that people are trying to sneak
>>> in...
>>
>>So much for secret societies.;-) I have a name in mind, lets guess.
>
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> ourselves anything but "The Illuminati"?
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Re: PESO Rusty

[frank theriault]

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Toine  wrote:
> I wanted to check if my old K10D and 18-55 kitlens got rusty and I did
> find lots of rust ;)

Very cool shot!

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Re: peso - girl

[frank theriault]

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 1:46 AM, Sasha Sobol  wrote:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4395234619/
>
> critique and comments welcome

Soft and pretty and happy.

Wonderful photo!

cheers,
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Re: PDML Photo Annual, Part 2 begins

[Stan Halpin]

Got it - thanks Luiz.

On Mar 2, 2010, at 10:03 AM, Luiz Felipe wrote:

> message from Stan reads:
> .
> .Thank you Mark and also your fellow editors.
> .
> .I was just poking around on your site trying to se the final list of 
> contributors. I saw it before when it popped up after I had done my 
> submissions, but I can't find a link now that would take me back there...
> .
> .stan
> 
> Stan, I had this in my faves, still working for me:
> 
> http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/submissions.php
> 
> Count my echo in: Thanks a LOT, Mark and all others that make that dream 
> possible.
> 
> lf
> 
> On Mar 1, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
> 
>> We've closed down the submissions page for the 2010 PSML book. We had
>> more participating photographers than last year and more total images
>> submitted. But beyond that, the *quality* of what we received is way
>> up. You've all risen to the occasion, apparently.
>> 
>> The submission period was extended a day, by the way, to give some
>> extra time for our "recently hospitalized but now on the mend" Ecke
>> (AKA Eckinator). I hope there won't be any objections...
>> 
>> In other news, we also received submissions from someone who *isn't*
>> on the PDML and, as far as Doug can tell, never has been! He gets
>> several points for ambitiousness, but loses a lot more for treachery
>> ;-) I suppose we should consider it a compliment that publication in
>> our little project is now so desirable that people are trying to sneak
>> in...
>> 
>> Now the editors will select the photos that get into the book. After
>> than, the curator in Chicago will pick the ones for the exhibit. Stay
>> tuned.
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Re: Peso After the snow Feb 27, 2010

[Bruce Dayton]

Hmmm... Stark contrast to my plum blossoms taken about the same time.
 It certainly gives you a feeling for the weather you're having.

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Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 8:27:14 AM, you wrote:

DJB> Hi all

DJB> I took a few shots around the yard after the snow fall we had on
DJB> Saturday. Nice big flakes
DJB> but gone as soon as the sun came out.

DJB> Hereis the first one.:

DJB> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10753871

DJB> Still cannot copy and paste a link from photo.net.

DJB> Arg,

DJB> Comments welcome

DJB> K10D and DA F 50-200

DJB> Dave

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DJB> www.caughtinmotion.com
DJB> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
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Re: A400/5.6 Shots a bird

[John Sessoms]

From: paul stenquist

On Mar 1, 2010, at 10:51 PM, John Celio wrote:


JCO, every time I try to visit your website, my browser gives me
a virus/malware warning.  This time, I clicked through the
warning since it was just a jpg, but then AVG said it blocked a
threat from your site.  It said, "Threat name: Exploit Rogue MCOS
(type 1027)".  For what it's worth, I use Chrome.

Some brief googling of the above message says it's likely there's
a virus or malware on my PC, but I've seen this warning from your
site on multiple computers, so you really need to check your
website for malicious files.

John


For what it's worth, I clicked right onto JCO's pics with no
problems. 
Paul


I didn't get it this time, but I've seen it on several previous occasions.

I think the company that hosts JCO's site is somewhat behind the power 
curve when it comes to patching holes.


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RE: Wind Rows

[John Sessoms]

From: John Graves

When things get interesting, it helps to get a camera out.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jhg2/sets/72157623535053242/


Looks like it missed the house. I hope it DID; a pain to clean up, but 
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Bay area photo opportunity

[Larry Colen]

There are a couple of steampunk events coming up in the next few  
weeks. If you enjoy photographing people in rather inventive costumes,  
you may want to check them out.


http://www.steampunkexhibition.com/
http://peers.org/legion.html
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Re: PDML Photo Annual, Part 2 begins

[ann sanfedele]

m...@robertstech.com wrote:


David J Brooks  wrote:

 


On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
   


In other news, we also received submissions from someone who *isn't*
on the PDML and, as far as Doug can tell, never has been! He gets
several points for ambitiousness, but loses a lot more for treachery
;-) I suppose we should consider it a compliment that publication in
our little project is now so desirable that people are trying to sneak
in...
 


So much for secret societies.;-) I have a name in mind, lets guess.
   



If we're a secret society devoted to photography, how could we call
ourselves anything but "The Illuminati"?


The Cormoranti

ann




 





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Re: peso - girl

[CheekyGeek]

Nice photo.
Improvements? "Main light" is at 7 O-clock which puts nose shadow over
eye. Would be improved with the "main light" to 10-11 O-clock.
I'd also prefer the eyes be sharp, rather than the close hair.
You've got a cute model there. I'd employ her often!

Darren Addy
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On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 10:38 AM, frank theriault
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> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 1:46 AM, Sasha Sobol  wrote:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4395234619/
>>
>> critique and comments welcome
>
> Soft and pretty and happy.
>
> Wonderful photo!
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: PDML Photo Annual, Part 2 begins

[Miserere]

On a more serious note, having just spent a whole weekend moving my
blog/website to its new theme, I have even more respect for the the
work Mark is putting in to this whole affair. Not only did he
implement the upload form, but he's also going to deal with all the
software pains of getting our pictures up to snuff, and then making
the book.

I think now I know why Mark is losing his hair...

Thanks, Mark!


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On 1 March 2010 22:27, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> We've closed down the submissions page for the 2010 PSML book. We had
> more participating photographers than last year and more total images
> submitted. But beyond that, the *quality* of what we received is way
> up. You've all risen to the occasion, apparently.
>
> The submission period was extended a day, by the way, to give some
> extra time for our "recently hospitalized but now on the mend" Ecke
> (AKA Eckinator). I hope there won't be any objections...
>
> In other news, we also received submissions from someone who *isn't*
> on the PDML and, as far as Doug can tell, never has been! He gets
> several points for ambitiousness, but loses a lot more for treachery
> ;-) I suppose we should consider it a compliment that publication in
> our little project is now so desirable that people are trying to sneak
> in...
>
> Now the editors will select the photos that get into the book. After
> than, the curator in Chicago will pick the ones for the exhibit. Stay
> tuned.

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Re: OT/2: back from repair

[John Sessoms]

From: frank theriault

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 4:31 PM, eckinator  wrote: 

> I am actually neurologically left handed. I've lived right handed for
> almost 40 years...


Remember, left-handed people are in their right minds.


> They call mine a concealed left handedness. Could
> also mean someone or in fact even I myself by manner of imitation
> trained me into adopted right handedness.


When I started school back in the dark ages, my parents told my grade
one teacher that I was left handed and they did not want her to
"train" me to become right-handed.  Apparently it wasn't uncommon for
teachers to do things like tie kids' left hands behind their backs so
they couldn't use them to write, or to actually punish children for
holding pens and pencils in their left hand.  My teacher told my
parents she believed in letting children write with their preferred
hand.

I can't imagine the torment that poor lefties went through being
forced to write with their right hand.  And later consequences?  Who
knows?



That's really old school. They abandoned that idea some time before the 
1950s around here.


Weren't doing it in North Carolina in 1955 when I started ... not that 
it matters, since I am naturally right handed anyway. They even provided 
special left-hand desks for the kids who wrote that way.


Hard to imagine any school system more back-woods than Durham, NC in the 
 50s.



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Re: peso - girl

[Miserere]

Cute   :-)


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On 2 March 2010 01:46, Sasha Sobol  wrote:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4395234619/
>
> critique and comments welcome
>
> --Sasha
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Re: A400/5.6 Shots a bird

[mark]

John Sessoms  wrote:

>I didn't get it this time, but I've seen it on several previous occasions.
>
>I think the company that hosts JCO's site is somewhat behind the power 
>curve when it comes to patching holes.

That's my take. And if JCO is using plain FTP to transfer files, his
site has probably been pwned through an unsecured/unpatched router.

In my experience, cheap web hosting isn't worth the money saved over a
high quality (pricier) hosting service.

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Re: 3 PESOS - In the 'hood today

[frank theriault]

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 8:54 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> stayed hunkered down with sniffles yesterday but had to get out today...
> all three of these were taken with Pentax 28mm f 2.8 SMC (about 35 years
> old) on the Canon digital rebel (about 3 years old)
> If Frank doesn't like these I'll be disappointed :-)
> http://tinyurl.com/y8ozmr9
> http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-New-York/2564371_i3HHm/1/797779778_Wj5yf/Medium
>
> http://tinyurl.com/y9qr5lk
> http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-New-York/2564371_i3HHm/1/797782577_PrW64/Medium
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ybjp2jw
> http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-New-York/2564371_i3HHm/1/797782719_eto9Z/Medium

I'm behind on my e-mails (being away from the computer for the weekend
will do that to a guy), but I just looked at your off-list e-mail
(which I still have to answer) and decided to come have a look at
these.

Of course I like them!  They're terrific.

The first and third are my favorites - actually the second one's
pretty good, too.  Okay, it's really hard to pick a favorite, they're
all so good!

Great work, Ann!!

cheers,
frank, home from work today due to bike repairs

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Re: Thanks!!

[frank theriault]

On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Christine  Aguila
 wrote:
> Tim & Bob:  Point taken.  Thanks!  :-)  Cheers, Christine

Lovely pix - you two are a terrific looking couple!  Glad you had a
wonderful birthday.

Don't worry about that "certain age" thing.  I passed that certain age
several years ago - now's the time you can ~start~ having fun!

cheers,
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Re: PESO -- Julies

[frank theriault]

On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 7:13 AM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> Somehow this didn't get pasted in
>
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20julies.html

I like it!  Yes, not sharp in all the "right" places, but to me that
implies movement (which cats are known to involve themselves in when
not sleeping).  I like the feel of this one.

cheers,
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Re: PDML Photo Annual, Part 2 begins

[frank theriault]

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Miserere  wrote:


> I think now I know why Mark is losing his hair...


"Losing"?



cheers,
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Re: Metering - K7

[Thibouille]

I do not own a K10 anymore but I remember I 'brutaly' tested
integrated flash exposure by firing it in front of a mirror.
* The K10 shot was almost unusable, the whole mirror completely eaten
by the flash light.
* The K7 shot  however was different, still eaten by the flash light
of course, but I could use the rest of the mirror image if I wanted.
Only the area near the flash reflection was unusable.

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 5:30 PM, AlunFoto  wrote:
> 2010/3/1 Bruce Dayton :
>> It has been stated by several K7 owners that the metering has
>> improved quite a bit over the K20D.  I am curious as to the details
>> of this difference.  Are we talking about matrix metering and
>> automatic modes on the camera, or are we talking about center
>> weighted and manual exposure settings...
>
> For my part it's matrix metering. My experience is that the metering
> is less sensitive to small, bright light sources, like specular
> reflexes, streetlights, etc. I also find that the metering is more
> consistent across pictures of the same scene with minor variations in
> composition, for example, than was the case for K10/20.
>
> In my opinion this is no less than one can expect from raising the
> number of metering sites from 11 to 77. :-) It gives a lot more room
> for weighting of the metering loci.
>
> I'm also very satisfied with the flash metering of the K-7, but I
> can't compare this to the performance of K10/20 because I apparently
> had a slightly malfunctioning flash at the time. All I can say is that
> I like it the way it happens in the K-7.
>
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Re: Wind Rows

[John Graves]

John,

Thanks for your kind wishes.  Yes, It mostly missed but did enough that 
we will have an adjuster visit.  As others have mentioned, the important 
thing is we are all right, and all else is mostly ok.  My ham antenna (a 
vertical aluminum pole ) was demolished but it is replaceable one way or 
another and that ain't bad as the worst that got done.


John

John Sessoms wrote:

From: John Graves

When things get interesting, it helps to get a camera out.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jhg2/sets/72157623535053242/


Looks like it missed the house. I hope it DID; a pain to clean up, but 
not as bad as if you had major structural repairs as well.






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Re: K7 movies

[Thibouille]

You're welcome, Paul. Happy if I can help.
I have to say I'm very impressed by the quality of the video.
Comparison with my LX3 (720p as well) isn't fair at all. The LX3
compresses data way more (in theory the Codec has not that much
influence but bitrate has a lot more).

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 4:03 PM, P N Stenquist  wrote:
>
> On Mar 2, 2010, at 8:58 AM, Thibouille wrote:
>
>> Mmm I remember I opened them directly in iMovie.
>>
>> The file format is AVI but the most important thing is the codec, as
>> some others said, Mjpeg. It produces huge files but are very easy to
>> edit on the computer since that codec doesn't require a lot of power
>> to compress/decompress.
>>
>> Edit: I just imported an AVI/Mjpeg file straight from K-7 into iMovie'09:
>> File -> Import -> Movie -> select AVI file.
>> It will convert to MOV/Mjpeg automatically (and reduce resolution if
>> you ask it to do so).
>>
>
> I think I have '08 iMovie on my desktop, but '09 on the laptop. I'll try it
> there.
> Thanks.
> Paul
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 11:49 PM, paul stenquist
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> I shot a movie of Grace playing in the snow today with the K7. I have a
>>> magnifier hood for the LCD display which provides a good look and makes
>>> manual focus fairly easy. But since I shot with the DA* 16-50 at f11,
>>> focusing wasn't a priority. Sound and pic are both very nice on my computer.
>>> Just three minutes of video is a huge file of course, so I can't really post
>>> it, but it was a good bit of fun. Have to find a way to edit and make some
>>> HD DVD copies.
>>> Paul
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Re: Off Topic: Jet Lag

[John Sessoms]

From: Tim Bray

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Boris Liberman  wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I have traveled across 7 time zones back and forth twice in the past 4
> weeks. And this time the recovery is rather tiresome. I wonder what
> kind of advice (except, Boris, go visit a doctor) you could offer me
> in dealing with the jet lag.


I'm surprised nobody's mentioned Melatonin.  You can buy it in most
vitamin stores and for a lot of people, it seems to help a ton in
getting a fairly uninterrupted night's sleep before your body has had
time to adust to the new zone.  Which has the effect of speeding up
the adjustment.

It tends to produce weird and intense dreams.

It works for me.  Not for my wife; the dreams are hairy enough to wake
her up, scared.

I suppose giving up alcohol and caffeine might help too, but who wants
to do that?
 -Tim


If you're not lactose intolerant, try a glass of warm milk.

Melatonin is one of the "active ingredients" in warm milk, along with 
tryptophan. It's not concentrated, so if you react intensely to it, that 
might be a better way to get the benefit with fewer side effects. Much 
lower dose than from a supplement.


I think it's actually a combination of the melatonin, tryptophan and the 
relaxing effect of the warmth, because it seems more effective than is 
accountable for from the dosage.


Alcohol and caffeine dehydrate you. The point of the no alcohol 
proscription is to warn you not to count on alcohol to re-hydrate.


Drink additional water to offset the dehydrating effect of alcohol or 
caffeine.


A small amount of red wine can actually help relax you to enable you to 
sleep.


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Re: OT: Congratulations...

[John Sessoms]

From: Joseph McAllister

On Mar 1, 2010, at 15:20 , William Robb wrote:


>>>
>>> How nice of them to invite the U. S. so we could garner the MOST   
>>> medals ! [: > }

>>
>>
>> They had to invite us. We had the television rights.
>>

>
> We wanted to invite you so we could whip your sorry asses at both  
> mens and womens hockey.  :-) 
> Just so you know I'm kidding, the only Olympic event I watched was  
> Neil Young at the closing ceremony.

> I really do think televised sports are for people who have no life.
>
> William Robb



Then you missed the 60 some odd hours of very exciting Curling, you cad!
I congratulate the Canadian Women's Curling team on their winning the  
Silver Medal.

The Canadian men's team gave their Silver Medals away to Norway.


Heard about it on the radio. One of the Canadian teams got a very 
exciting double something or other.


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Re: PDML Photo Annual, Part 2 begins

[mark]

frank theriault  wrote:

>On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Miserere  wrote:
>
>
>> I think now I know why Mark is losing his hair...
>
>
>"Losing"?
>
>

I've been donating it to Cotty...


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Re: 3 PESOS - In the 'hood today

[ann sanfedele]

Thanks Frank,

I wondered where you were... if you hadn't seen/liked my totally Frank 
themed snaps I'd have

been very disappointed :)

I'm always behind on email -  skim skim skim

xo,
ann

frank theriault wrote:


On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 8:54 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
 


stayed hunkered down with sniffles yesterday but had to get out today...
all three of these were taken with Pentax 28mm f 2.8 SMC (about 35 years
old) on the Canon digital rebel (about 3 years old)
If Frank doesn't like these I'll be disappointed :-)
http://tinyurl.com/y8ozmr9
http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-New-York/2564371_i3HHm/1/797779778_Wj5yf/Medium

http://tinyurl.com/y9qr5lk
http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-New-York/2564371_i3HHm/1/797782577_PrW64/Medium

http://tinyurl.com/ybjp2jw
http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-New-York/2564371_i3HHm/1/797782719_eto9Z/Medium
   



I'm behind on my e-mails (being away from the computer for the weekend
will do that to a guy), but I just looked at your off-list e-mail
(which I still have to answer) and decided to come have a look at
these.

Of course I like them!  They're terrific.

The first and third are my favorites - actually the second one's
pretty good, too.  Okay, it's really hard to pick a favorite, they're
all so good!

Great work, Ann!!

cheers,
frank, home from work today due to bike repairs

 





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Re: OT/2: back from repair

[Paul Sorenson]

On 3/2/2010 11:26 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: frank theriault
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 4:31 PM, eckinator  
wrote: 

> I am actually neurologically left handed. I've lived right handed for
> almost 40 years...


Remember, left-handed people are in their right minds.


> They call mine a concealed left handedness. Could
> also mean someone or in fact even I myself by manner of imitation
> trained me into adopted right handedness.


When I started school back in the dark ages, my parents told my grade
one teacher that I was left handed and they did not want her to
"train" me to become right-handed.  Apparently it wasn't uncommon for
teachers to do things like tie kids' left hands behind their backs so
they couldn't use them to write, or to actually punish children for
holding pens and pencils in their left hand.  My teacher told my
parents she believed in letting children write with their preferred
hand.

I can't imagine the torment that poor lefties went through being
forced to write with their right hand.  And later consequences?  Who
knows?



That's really old school. They abandoned that idea some time before 
the 1950s around here.


Weren't doing it in North Carolina in 1955 when I started ... not that 
it matters, since I am naturally right handed anyway. They even 
provided special left-hand desks for the kids who wrote that way.


Hard to imagine any school system more back-woods than Durham, NC in 
the  50s.
I don't recall anyone ever forcing us to switch to right-handedness when 
I started first grade in 1947, they just pretty much assumed we were all 
right-handed.  Our instructions were to turn the paper so the top edge 
was pointed toward the upper left corner of the desk - which is why you 
see so many left-handed people curling their hand over the top of their 
script and essentially writing upside-down.  Being the independent sort, 
I turned my paper toward the upper right corner so I don't do the 
upside-down thing.  My penmanship still isn't worth a damn, though...


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Re: Peso After the snow Feb 27, 2010

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On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Bruce Dayton  wrote:
> Hmmm... Stark contrast to my plum blossoms taken about the same time.
>  It certainly gives you a feeling for the weather you're having.
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Bruce

Its been nice here the past two days, sunny and above freezing.
Weekend is slated for +9 C.
Better get the stuff off the basement floor.

Dave
>
>
> Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 8:27:14 AM, you wrote:
>
> DJB> Hi all
>
> DJB> I took a few shots around the yard after the snow fall we had on
> DJB> Saturday. Nice big flakes
> DJB> but gone as soon as the sun came out.
>
> DJB> Hereis the first one.:
>
> DJB> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10753871
>
> DJB> Still cannot copy and paste a link from photo.net.
>
> DJB> Arg,
>
> DJB> Comments welcome
>
> DJB> K10D and DA F 50-200
>
> DJB> Dave
>
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Re: PDML Photo Annual, Part 2 begins

[David J Brooks]

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Miserere  wrote:

> I think now I know why Mark is losing his hair...

We blame it on Doug.

Dave
>
> Thanks, Mark!
>
>
>  --M.
>
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> On 1 March 2010 22:27, Mark Roberts  wrote:
>> We've closed down the submissions page for the 2010 PSML book. We had
>> more participating photographers than last year and more total images
>> submitted. But beyond that, the *quality* of what we received is way
>> up. You've all risen to the occasion, apparently.
>>
>> The submission period was extended a day, by the way, to give some
>> extra time for our "recently hospitalized but now on the mend" Ecke
>> (AKA Eckinator). I hope there won't be any objections...
>>
>> In other news, we also received submissions from someone who *isn't*
>> on the PDML and, as far as Doug can tell, never has been! He gets
>> several points for ambitiousness, but loses a lot more for treachery
>> ;-) I suppose we should consider it a compliment that publication in
>> our little project is now so desirable that people are trying to sneak
>> in...
>>
>> Now the editors will select the photos that get into the book. After
>> than, the curator in Chicago will pick the ones for the exhibit. Stay
>> tuned.
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RE: A400/5.6 Shots a bird

[J.C. O'Connell]

these files are ftp uploaded and seem to work fine
on ebay for many many many times (1000's)all without incident
or failure to display on my system nor any reports
thru ebay or direct from any ebay buyers reporting either.
Not sure why a few don't like them, pretty basic
stuff. I use CA antivirus service on the pc at this time.

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John Sessoms  wrote:

>I didn't get it this time, but I've seen it on several previous 
>occasions.
>
>I think the company that hosts JCO's site is somewhat behind the power
>curve when it comes to patching holes.

That's my take. And if JCO is using plain FTP to transfer files, his site
has probably been pwned through an unsecured/unpatched router.

In my experience, cheap web hosting isn't worth the money saved over a high
quality (pricier) hosting service.

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Re: PDML Photo Annual, Part 2 begins

[eckinator]

2010/3/2 David J Brooks :
>> In other news, we also received submissions from someone who *isn't*
>> on the PDML and, as far as Doug can tell, never has been! He gets
>> several points for ambitiousness, but loses a lot more for treachery
>> ;-) I suppose we should consider it a compliment that publication in
>> our little project is now so desirable that people are trying to sneak
>> in...
>
> So much for secret societies.;-) I have a name in mind, lets guess.

mail-archive.com ... talk about secrecy...

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Re: PDML Photo Annual, Part 2 begins

[eckinator]

2010/3/2 Miserere :
> On a more serious note, having just spent a whole weekend moving my
> blog/website to its new theme, I have even more respect for the the
> work Mark is putting in to this whole affair. Not only did he
> implement the upload form, but he's also going to deal with all the
> software pains of getting our pictures up to snuff, and then making
> the book.
>
> I think now I know why Mark is losing his hair...
>
> Thanks, Mark!

I couldn't thank Mark more seeing how much he went out of his way to
accommodate my crapola and lack of calibrated display etc...
THANK YOU SPECK!! you're the man =)

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Re: Wind Rows

[eckinator]

2010/3/2 John Graves :
> When things get interesting, it helps to get a camera out.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jhg2/sets/72157623535053242/

Holy Mackerel...
Glad to read farther down the thread that you're all safe & sound
Looks like a nice backyard, too =)
Cheers
Ecke

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Re: Off Topic: Jet Lag

[Doug Franklin]

On 2010-03-02 12:47, John Sessoms wrote:


A small amount of red wine can actually help relax you to enable you to
sleep.


So can a dose of benadryl and a dose of your favorite liquor. :-)

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Re: Wind Rows

[John Graves]

Thanks.  Our reaction exactly.

John / WA1JG

eckinator wrote:

2010/3/2 John Graves :
  

When things get interesting, it helps to get a camera out.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jhg2/sets/72157623535053242/



Holy Mackerel...
Glad to read farther down the thread that you're all safe & sound
Looks like a nice backyard, too =)
Cheers
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Re: Off Topic: Jet Lag

[eckinator]

>> I'm surprised nobody's mentioned Melatonin...

enter Germany with it in your luggage - they're unlikely to catch you
but if they do you are importing illegal medicines which is not a narc
offense but still a crime subject to official prosecution so whoever
catches you or gets your case on their table has no option to let you
off the hook... keep that in mind
cheers
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Re: OT/2: back from repair

[Mark Roberts]

frank theriault wrote:

>I can't imagine the torment that poor lefties went through being
>forced to write with their right hand.  And later consequences?  Who
>knows?

Becoming a famous drummer in the world's most successful rock band?
Seriously. Ringo Starr is left-handed but as a child was forced to
learn everything right-handed, including playing the drums. That's why
his drumming style - in particular the fills - is so distinctive. (If
you play drums even a little, you can easily try playing a "backwards"
kit to find out how completely weird it is.)

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Re: K7 movies

[Cotty]

On 2/3/10, Thibouille, discombobulated, unleashed:

> (in theory the Codec has not that much
>influence but bitrate has a lot more).

35 mbps is professional territory. Best BBC quality requirements is 50mbps.

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Developing Chemical Disposal

[John Graves]

I am considering developing my own B&W film. My film cameras are 
beckoning. Before I do this, I would like to understand how to dispose 
of the required chemicals.  I would be using something like Ethol UFG on 
TMax or equivalents.   It looks like fixer with a simple treatment 
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am on a septic system and don't want to spoil a good system.


Any suggestions either in disposal or alternative products is welcome.

John / WA1JG

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Re: Off Topic: Jet Lag

[gldnbearz]

Ooh... that combination might put you to sleep for a good while.  Some
days, the liquor leaves less of a hangover...

- Pat 

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Doug Franklin
 wrote:
> On 2010-03-02 12:47, John Sessoms wrote:
>
>> A small amount of red wine can actually help relax you to enable you to
>> sleep.
>
> So can a dose of benadryl and a dose of your favorite liquor. :-)
>
> --
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Re: Off Topic: Jet Lag

[gldnbearz]

Actually sent that info to Boris via off-line b/c not everyone can
legally use melatonin.

- Pat

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:25 AM, eckinator  wrote:
>>> I'm surprised nobody's mentioned Melatonin...
>
> enter Germany with it in your luggage - they're unlikely to catch you
> but if they do you are importing illegal medicines which is not a narc
> offense but still a crime subject to official prosecution so whoever
> catches you or gets your case on their table has no option to let you
> off the hook... keep that in mind
> cheers
> ecke
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Re: peso - girl

[Sasha Sobol]

Thanks for your constructive feedback!

--Sasha

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Miserere  wrote:
> Cute   :-)
>
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> On 2 March 2010 01:46, Sasha Sobol  wrote:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4395234619/
>>
>> critique and comments welcome
>>
>> --Sasha
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Peso - another girl

[Sasha Sobol]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4396004182/
Comments and critique are welcome (I really appreciate your time and
effort spent on giving me feedback).

Thanks,
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Re: OT: Congratulations...

[Ken Waller]

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Subject: Re: OT: Congratulations...



From: Joseph McAllister

On Mar 1, 2010, at 15:20 , William Robb wrote:


>>>
>>> How nice of them to invite the U. S. so we could garner the MOST 
>>> medals ! [: > }

>>
>>
>> They had to invite us. We had the television rights.
>>

>
> We wanted to invite you so we could whip your sorry asses at both 
> mens and womens hockey.  :-) Just so you know I'm kidding, the only 
> Olympic event I watched was  Neil Young at the closing ceremony.

> I really do think televised sports are for people who have no life.
>
> William Robb



Then you missed the 60 some odd hours of very exciting Curling, you cad!
I congratulate the Canadian Women's Curling team on their winning the 
Silver Medal.

The Canadian men's team gave their Silver Medals away to Norway.


Heard about it on the radio. One of the Canadian teams got a very exciting 
double something or other.


Nah, it was a what-ca-ma-call-it.


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RE: PDML Photo Annual, Part 2 begins

[Bob W]

> >
> >So much for secret societies.;-) I have a name in mind, lets guess.
> 
> If we're a secret society devoted to photography, how could 
> we call ourselves anything but "The Illuminati"?
> 

The Phalacrocorax Deceitful Masonic Lodge?

In Paradise Lost the cormorant is a symbol of deception, representing Satan.






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RE: OT - Tea

[Bob W]

> Bob W wrote:
> > [...]
> >> I'm asking my friend what size package it was that she 
> had, because 
> >> I've never actually bought loose tea before and have no 
> idea how much 
> >> I should get.  [...]
> 
> > One teaspoon (theres a clue in the name!) per person, and 
> one for the pot.
> > Multiply by the number of pots of tea you want to make. Tea 
> keeps for 
> > a long time as long as you have a decent caddy.
> > 
> > http://www.bettysbypost.com/Tea,4.aspx
> > 
> > Bob
> 
> You mean brewed tea?
> 

No - you have to drink that.

> Or, is the caddy for storing tea leaves? I suspect the latter...
> 

Correct



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Re: Off Topic: Jet Lag

[Ken Waller]

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Subject: Re: Off Topic: Jet Lag



On 2010-03-02 12:47, John Sessoms wrote:


A small amount of red wine can actually help relax you to enable you to
sleep.


So can a dose of benadryl and a dose of your favorite liquor. :-)


Knob Creek bourbon works for me.



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Re: OT/2: back from repair

[Ken Waller]

During my elementary schooling in the early 50s -I was constantly harassed 
for being a left handed writer - got rapped with a ruler by teachers trying 
to get me to change. I fixed em by injuring my right hand so I had to write 
with my left (in all other aspects of handed ness, I'm a righty)


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Subject: Re: OT/2: back from repair



On 3/2/2010 11:26 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: frank theriault
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 4:31 PM, eckinator  wrote: 


> I am actually neurologically left handed. I've lived right handed for
> almost 40 years...


Remember, left-handed people are in their right minds.


> They call mine a concealed left handedness. Could
> also mean someone or in fact even I myself by manner of imitation
> trained me into adopted right handedness.


When I started school back in the dark ages, my parents told my grade
one teacher that I was left handed and they did not want her to
"train" me to become right-handed.  Apparently it wasn't uncommon for
teachers to do things like tie kids' left hands behind their backs so
they couldn't use them to write, or to actually punish children for
holding pens and pencils in their left hand.  My teacher told my
parents she believed in letting children write with their preferred
hand.

I can't imagine the torment that poor lefties went through being
forced to write with their right hand.  And later consequences?  Who
knows?



That's really old school. They abandoned that idea some time before the 
1950s around here.


Weren't doing it in North Carolina in 1955 when I started ... not that it 
matters, since I am naturally right handed anyway. They even provided 
special left-hand desks for the kids who wrote that way.


Hard to imagine any school system more back-woods than Durham, NC in the 
50s.
I don't recall anyone ever forcing us to switch to right-handedness when I 
started first grade in 1947, they just pretty much assumed we were all 
right-handed.  Our instructions were to turn the paper so the top edge was 
pointed toward the upper left corner of the desk - which is why you see so 
many left-handed people curling their hand over the top of their script 
and essentially writing upside-down.  Being the independent sort, I turned 
my paper toward the upper right corner so I don't do the upside-down 
thing.  My penmanship still isn't worth a damn, though...


-p





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Re: Off Topic: Jet Lag

[Sasha Sobol]

eckinator, thanks.
I did not know that melatonin was illegal in Germany
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> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
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> - Original Message - From: "Doug Franklin"
> 
> Subject: Re: Off Topic: Jet Lag
>
>
>> On 2010-03-02 12:47, John Sessoms wrote:
>>
>>> A small amount of red wine can actually help relax you to enable you to
>>> sleep.
>>
>> So can a dose of benadryl and a dose of your favorite liquor. :-)
>
> Knob Creek bourbon works for me.
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Re: Peso - another girl

[Larry Colen]

On Mar 2, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Sasha Sobol wrote:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4396004182/
Comments and critique are welcome (I really appreciate your time and
effort spent on giving me feedback).


Nice composition and I love the "smile in her eyes".  Color balance  
seems a bit off, it;s just a fuzzy dark on my monitor,  and the focus  
seems to be on her right bicep, rather than her face.




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Re: Wind Rows

[Larry Colen]

On Mar 2, 2010, at 4:33 AM, John Graves wrote:



Larry Colen wrote:

On Mar 1, 2010, at 8:31 PM, John Graves wrote:

Frank,

It didn't miss...It/they (that a clump of 3 three trees) blew out  
the window in the end, hit the top of my chimney, and tore out and  
chewed up the rail on the end of the porch, as well as the  
concrete holding it up..  My ham radio vertical is now closer to a  
modern aluminum sculpture.

Time to invest in a slinky dipole.


Funny you should say that.  I have a dipole (actually a G5RV) up 45  
ft in some neighboring trees.  It is fine. So I still have  
communications.


What bands do you hang out on?  I never got my license, could never  
get my code past about 3wpm by the time I was done visiting grampa  
(W6HJL, also member of the society of wireless pioneers), and couldn't  
get my folks to practice code with me to get past the 5wpm hump.  In  
the meantime not only did the internet and cell phones pretty much  
cover most of the non-emergency uses of ham radio, but I've got too  
many other expensive hobbies consuming my time.




The wind sounded as though we were living underneath a railroad  
for about an hour.


But we are still here and just waiting for the adjuster.  Then I  
can schedule the tree guy.  So what is a guy to doother that  
take photographssigh???

There are easier ways to branch out to new photographic subjects.


I would rather leaf the whole subject alone.

If we get good light today, I want to get some pictures of the  
rootballs.  I need to get to the bottom of it!


I look forward to your incipient "Trunk and disorderly" PESO.

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Boston PDML Thursday?

[Mark Roberts]

OK, the Boston PDML is me and Miserere, but if there are any other
Boston PDML lurkers...

The Photographic Resource Center of Boston University is having a
photoslam (kind of like a poetry slam but with photos) on Thursday
evening at 6:00 at the Wonder Bar, 186 Harvard Ave.

Members (such as myself) will be showing off 5 photos each and
describing the works and our latest projects. Non-members (such as
Miserere - if he decides to come) can stare in slack-jawed wonder at
our awesomeness. And drink beer. Did I mention beer? Should be fun.

http://www.bu.edu/prc/programs.htm


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Re: Developing Chemical Disposal

[ann sanfedele]

John Graves wrote:

I am considering developing my own B&W film. My film cameras are 
beckoning. Before I do this, I would like to understand how to dispose 
of the required chemicals.  I would be using something like Ethol UFG 
on TMax or equivalents.   It looks like fixer with a simple treatment 
(desilvering) is dumpable, but what about the developer and stopbath?  
I am on a septic system and don't want to spoil a good system.


Any suggestions either in disposal or alternative products is welcome.

John / WA1JG 



Use White Vinegar  - a teaspoon or two  to a quart of water, for your 
stop bath.  

That was the first thing the guy told me when I bought my very first 
darkroom equip back in the mid 70's -

Better for you, better for the earth.

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Re: Boston PDML Thursday?

[frank theriault]

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:

 Non-members...can stare in slack-jawed wonder at
> our awesomeness.

Almost makes me want to fly down.

Almost...

;-)

cheers,
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Re: Peso - another girl

[frank theriault]

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Sasha Sobol  wrote:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4396004182/
> Comments and critique are welcome (I really appreciate your time and
> effort spent on giving me feedback).

Seems a bit dark on my (uncalibrated) monitor, but otherwise it's a
lovely portrait!

cheers,
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Re: PDML Photo Annual, Part 2 begins

[Bob Sullivan]

Oh Hell, what did Milton Berl know anyway!

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>> >
>> >So much for secret societies.;-) I have a name in mind, lets guess.
>>
>> If we're a secret society devoted to photography, how could
>> we call ourselves anything but "The Illuminati"?
>>
>
> The Phalacrocorax Deceitful Masonic Lodge?
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> In Paradise Lost the cormorant is a symbol of deception, representing Satan.
> 
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Re: Boston PDML Thursday?

[Sam Longley]

> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> OK, the Boston PDML is me and Miserere, but if there are any other
> Boston PDML lurkers...
>
> The Photographic Resource Center of Boston University is having a
> photoslam (kind of like a poetry slam but with photos) on Thursday
> evening at 6:00 at the Wonder Bar, 186 Harvard Ave.
>
> Members (such as myself) will be showing off 5 photos each and
> describing the works and our latest projects. Non-members (such as
> Miserere - if he decides to come) can stare in slack-jawed wonder at
> our awesomeness. And drink beer. Did I mention beer? Should be fun.
>
> http://www.bu.edu/prc/programs.htm


*de-lurks*

Hi ... I've been lurking for maybe 2 weeks now.  Not sure if I can
make it, as I burned up a lot of good will with SWMBO [1] on a wild
goose chase to Western MA and then had the audacity to come home
empty-handed.

But I'm excited to see there are other Bostonians on the list.

I'm a brand new K-x guy (shot with a K1000 20 years ago).  Just
getting back into the obsession, er I mean, hobby.

- Sam

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Re: Wind Rows

[John Graves]

Larry,

Well, I tend to be on 80 M (3.5 MHz), 40M (7.0 MHz), and 20M (14.0 
MHz).using either code or sideband. I do have 2 M (144.0) transceiver in 
the car for chats on FM through several of the local repeaters.  Since 
you have been gone, the morse code requirement has been dropped and 
there are only 3 license classes, Tech, General & Extra.  The tech 
license gets you on the 2 M and down to a piece of 10 M (28.0 MHz).  The 
other two give you access to at least a piece of all the bands with 
sections reserved for the Extra license.  If you have more questions, I 
am happy to answer them but we outta take off forum to spare the others, 
chatter about another consuming hobby.


John / WA1JG

Larry Colen wrote:


On Mar 2, 2010, at 4:33 AM, John Graves wrote:



Larry Colen wrote:

On Mar 1, 2010, at 8:31 PM, John Graves wrote:

Frank,

It didn't miss...It/they (that a clump of 3 three trees) blew out 
the window in the end, hit the top of my chimney, and tore out and 
chewed up the rail on the end of the porch, as well as the concrete 
holding it up..  My ham radio vertical is now closer to a modern 
aluminum sculpture.

Time to invest in a slinky dipole.


Funny you should say that.  I have a dipole (actually a G5RV) up 45 
ft in some neighboring trees.  It is fine. So I still have 
communications.


What bands do you hang out on?  I never got my license, could never 
get my code past about 3wpm by the time I was done visiting grampa 
(W6HJL, also member of the society of wireless pioneers), and couldn't 
get my folks to practice code with me to get past the 5wpm hump.  In 
the meantime not only did the internet and cell phones pretty much 
cover most of the non-emergency uses of ham radio, but I've got too 
many other expensive hobbies consuming my time.




The wind sounded as though we were living underneath a railroad for 
about an hour.


But we are still here and just waiting for the adjuster.  Then I 
can schedule the tree guy.  So what is a guy to doother that 
take photographssigh???

There are easier ways to branch out to new photographic subjects.


I would rather leaf the whole subject alone.

If we get good light today, I want to get some pictures of the 
rootballs.  I need to get to the bottom of it!


I look forward to your incipient "Trunk and disorderly" PESO.

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RE: A400/5.6 Shots a bird

[John Sessoms]

From: "J.C. O'Connell"

these files are ftp uploaded and seem to work fine
on ebay for many many many times (1000's)all without incident
or failure to display on my system nor any reports
thru ebay or direct from any ebay buyers reporting either.
Not sure why a few don't like them, pretty basic
stuff. I use CA antivirus service on the pc at this time.


Yeah, It's not your files. The site that hosts your files has the problem.

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Re: Off Topic: Jet Lag

[John Sessoms]

From: Doug Franklin

On 2010-03-02 12:47, John Sessoms wrote:


> A small amount of red wine can actually help relax you to enable you to
> sleep.


So can a dose of benadryl and a dose of your favorite liquor.  :-) 


Thanks, but no thanks.

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Re: Off Topic: Jet Lag

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On Mar 2, 2010, at 4:14 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

> 
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Doug Franklin" 
> Subject: Re: Off Topic: Jet Lag
> 
> 
>> On 2010-03-02 12:47, John Sessoms wrote:
>>> A small amount of red wine can actually help relax you to enable you to
>>> sleep.
>> So can a dose of benadryl and a dose of your favorite liquor. :-)
> 
> Knob Creek bourbon works for me.
> 
A morphine drip is most effective.

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Re: Boston PDML Thursday?

[David J Brooks]

You want to meet Mark first.??

I'd start slow, maybe Cotty or Frank

Dave

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Sam Longley  wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
>> OK, the Boston PDML is me and Miserere, but if there are any other
>> Boston PDML lurkers...
>>
>> The Photographic Resource Center of Boston University is having a
>> photoslam (kind of like a poetry slam but with photos) on Thursday
>> evening at 6:00 at the Wonder Bar, 186 Harvard Ave.
>>
>> Members (such as myself) will be showing off 5 photos each and
>> describing the works and our latest projects. Non-members (such as
>> Miserere - if he decides to come) can stare in slack-jawed wonder at
>> our awesomeness. And drink beer. Did I mention beer? Should be fun.
>>
>> http://www.bu.edu/prc/programs.htm
>
>
> *de-lurks*
>
> Hi ... I've been lurking for maybe 2 weeks now.  Not sure if I can
> make it, as I burned up a lot of good will with SWMBO [1] on a wild
> goose chase to Western MA and then had the audacity to come home
> empty-handed.
>
> But I'm excited to see there are other Bostonians on the list.
>
> I'm a brand new K-x guy (shot with a K1000 20 years ago).  Just
> getting back into the obsession, er I mean, hobby.
>
> - Sam
>
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Re: PDML Photo Annual, Part 2 begins

[David J Brooks]

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> Oh Hell, what did Milton Berl know anyway!

Fashion statements.??

Dave
>
> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>>> >
>>> >So much for secret societies.;-) I have a name in mind, lets guess.
>>>
>>> If we're a secret society devoted to photography, how could
>>> we call ourselves anything but "The Illuminati"?
>>>
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Re: Developing Chemical Disposal

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On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 3:19 PM, John Graves  wrote:
  I am on a septic
> system and don't want to spoil a good system.

Use Scott's, he won;'t mind

Dave
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> Any suggestions either in disposal or alternative products is welcome.
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Re: Peso - another girl

[David J Brooks]

Looks a bit dark on the ibook, but ist a nice portrait, nice smile to

Dave

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Re: PDML Photo Annual, Part 2 begins

[CheekyGeek]

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 9:24 AM,   wrote:

> If we're a secret society devoted to photography, how could we call
> ourselves anything but "The Illuminati"?

If we're going to abide by the Truth in Advertising law, shouldn't we
at least spell it: "Illuminaughty"?

Darren Addy
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Re: Developing Chemical Disposal

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John Graves wrote:

> I am considering developing my own B&W film. My film cameras are 
> beckoning. Before I do this, I would like to understand how to dispose 
> of the required chemicals.  I would be using something like Ethol UFG 
> on TMax or equivalents.   It looks like fixer with a simple treatment 
> (desilvering) is dumpable, but what about the developer and stopbath?  
> I am on a septic system and don't want to spoil a good system.

>
> Any suggestions either in disposal or alternative products is welcome.


Mix your used developer and stop bath together so they balance out. They 
definitely should not go into the septic system. Most areas have a 
household hazardous waste disposal location or periodic collection and 
you should be able to take it there.


Here in Raleigh/Wake County NC it used to be first Saturday of the 
month, but they've recently expanded the service to six days a week year 
round. Specifically lists "photographic chemicals" among the itemss 
accepted.


No additional charge beyond what I already pay for 
water/sewer/trash/curbside recycling.


Try Googling "Your Town/County State household hazardous waste" - that's 
how I found out about the new facility in Wake County.


If they don't take fixer, I'd ask around local mini-labs. If you're not 
generating great quantities of waste, you can probably find one that 
will take the used fixer and add it to their own chemicals for 
de-silvering.


They might be willing to take on your used developer and stop as well.

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