PESO: Illinois Barn Mk2

2010-06-18 Thread Chris Mitchell
In response to comments - an attempt to make it punchier:
http://mitch.myzen.co.uk/PDML/IllinoisBarn2.jpg

Original here:
http://mitch.myzen.co.uk/PDML/20100510-_IGP2850.jpg

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Re: handing the camera to someone else

2010-06-18 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Jun 8, 2010, at 06:08 , eckinator wrote:


… won't happen to me again so a small price paid for a
problem lost.
Cheers
Ecke




Similar brain fade happened to me last Saturday.

I have just acquired a new addition to my herd of rescue dogs A 1 year  
old Pit bull terrier, American Eskimo mix, brindle bitch named Sakoda.  
Father was Kody, mother was Sadie, hence the name Sakoda. 19.2 lbs of  
terror. Looks like a large Chihuahua. Has a Pitt's feeling of  
superiority. Will go at it (play) with any dog of any size, even if  
she has to climb up on their shoulders to get a good grip on their  
neck. I have a great photo of her intimidating one of her playmates, a  
Corgie, by jumping over it from one side to the other. I'll put it on  
my gallery in a few minutes. Look for Introducing Sakoda.


gallery.me.com/jomac#100440bgcolor=blackview=mosaicsel=0

Anyways, I shot 100+ great action shots of all my dogs with the K-7 at  
the dog park for about 45 minutes before I felt a need to chimp. What  
I saw was that nasty notification telling me I had left my 8 gig SD  
card plugged in to the computer. Pulled my 4 gig spare out of the  
battery grip and punched it in, but the verve was lost. After a few  
shots of wimpy dog action I packed it in and went home, dejected and  
angry with myself.


It was one of the few days with sunlight we've had since last summer  
(it seems) so I was using a good ƒ8 and 1/1000 or better at ISO 200.  
Usually I'm at ƒ5.6 with 1/320 @ ISO 800.


But I'm of an age that it might take 2 or 3 trips between the car and  
the house before I've gotten everything I meant to take with me. Even  
then there is a 50% chance at least one item won't be remembered until  
I'm down the road a bit. I've learned to not give a darn by that  
point, as I may get it right tomorrow.



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Re: Noise with K7

2010-06-18 Thread Dario Bonazza

William Robb

Fair enough. I've never bothered to care enough to want to find out, but 
the consensus on ForumsNeurotica is that the K7 is a small step backwards 
in noise levels, and this seems to be one of those critically important 
things to handwring about over there.

I'm just regurgitating what I've read on the forum.


That's my experience too. The K-7 I used for a while is at least 1/2 stop 
worse than my K20D about noise. Guilty is the 4-channel readout, I suppose.


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Re: handing the camera to someone else

2010-06-18 Thread William Robb


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A 1 year

old Pit bull terrier, American Eskimo mix, brindle bitch


Wow, you go for the hard asses don't you.
While I've never met a Pitbull that I didn't like, I've never met an 
American Eskimo that was anything other than a mean spirited prick.


William Robb



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RE: PESO: Illinois Barn Mk2

2010-06-18 Thread Bob W
that's an improvement. It's a really great shot

 
 In response to comments - an attempt to make it punchier:
 http://mitch.myzen.co.uk/PDML/IllinoisBarn2.jpg
 
 Original here:
 http://mitch.myzen.co.uk/PDML/20100510-_IGP2850.jpg
 
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RE: GESO cloudy day seascapes

2010-06-18 Thread Bob W
 
 we were at a dog beach on a cloudy day.  I've always loved cloudy,
 windy,
 and cool days at the beach.
 
 http://www.caguila.com/caguila/sea/
 

Me too. I love the light and colour in these.

B


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Re: Noise with K7

2010-06-18 Thread Dario Bonazza

Dario Bonazza wrote:

That's my experience too. The K-7 I used for a while is at least 1/2 stop 
worse than my K20D about noise. Guilty is the 4-channel readout, I 
suppose.


Another step back of the K-7 over the K20D is the button layout and 
operation on the back. Worst of all is the f*g LV button, always 
blinding the viewfinder and flashing the screen in my eyes as I try  change 
the AF point at eye level.


In all other respects, I think of the K-7 as a good step forward from the 
K20D. IMO, the best improvements of the K-7 are about metering and AF. I 
love the much quieter shutter.


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PESO Kokyu ho

2010-06-18 Thread Larry Colen
Here is a picture from this last round of belt tests that might almost work 
better if you don't know the context:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4711417172/sizes/l/in/set-72157624300665078/

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Re: Noise with K7

2010-06-18 Thread Larry Colen

On Jun 18, 2010, at 1:25 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote:

 
 
 In all other respects, I think of the K-7 as a good step forward from the 
 K20D. IMO, the best improvements of the K-7 are about metering and AF. I love 
 the much quieter shutter.

More noise on the sensor, less from the shutter?
 

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RE: A cap of flowers

2010-06-18 Thread Bob W
thanks Rick. Pretty pictures of flowers is not really my thing - I promise
not to do it again.


 
 That is outstanding, Bob.  I thought I liked you.
 
 Rick
 
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  On the way back from Tate Modern this
  afternoon I cycled through the
  churchyard of St. Nicholas, Deptford, where I stopped to
  wander around and
  pay my respects to Christopher Marlowe, who is buried
  there.
 
  http://www.web-options.com/Top12/content/_6175850_large.html


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Re: Noise with K7

2010-06-18 Thread AlunFoto
2010/6/18 Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it:
 Another step back of the K-7 over the K20D is the button layout and
 operation on the back. Worst of all is the f*g LV button, always
 blinding the viewfinder and flashing the screen in my eyes as I try  change
 the AF point at eye level.

LOL...
ain't that the truth!

Funny also that the camera is toted to work at temperatures below zero
centigrade.
Try operating those buttons with gloves on...


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Re: geso a few trip funnies

2010-06-18 Thread paul stenquist

On Jun 17, 2010, at 11:36 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 
 
 Christine Aguila wrote:
 
 I'd never been to Hollywood, so it was kind of fun to see.  There are 
 captions.  The first picture was taken at Old San Diego, but the rest are 
 from Hollywood Boulevard.  The friend we went to visit is in town, so we're 
 off to meet him for dinner.
 
 Flash Simple viewer
 www.caguila.com/caguila/california1
 
 HTML
 www.caguila.com/caguila/california2
 
 If the gallery didn't make you giggle even just a wee bit, just let me know, 
 and I'll see what I can do. :-)
 Cheers, Christine
 
 
 Well, in an omg  that's tooo gross kinda way...  
 Certainly a reminder of why I can't stand LA :-)
 
 ann
 
I don't like Hollywood, but I do love the beach, from Hermosa to Malibu. Lots 
of good memories there, roller blading the bike path from one end to the other, 
enjoying month after month of sunny 70 degree weather, and eating some of the 
most fabulous food in the world. 

Hollywood, on the other hand, brings back memories of all-night, watching the 
paint dry sessions in studios and edit rooms. Not fun.

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Re: Peso - Metro-North

2010-06-18 Thread paul stenquist
Excellent. I can see why you like the color. A beautiful composition.
Paul
On Jun 17, 2010, at 11:43 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 
 Took the Pentax lens with me on an overnight to visit friends a couple of 
 hours north of NYC...
 
 and got this on the way from the train window.
 
 (yes, I did convert it to BW, too,  but like it better in color)
 
 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Random-stuff/2607384_N3Nso/1/904798116_h8SiL/Large
 
 http://tinyurl.com/2ako6e8
 
 
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Re: Noise with K7

2010-06-18 Thread paul stenquist

On Jun 18, 2010, at 4:25 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote:

 Dario Bonazza wrote:
 
 That's my experience too. The K-7 I used for a while is at least 1/2 stop 
 worse than my K20D about noise. Guilty is the 4-channel readout, I suppose.
 
 Another step back of the K-7 over the K20D is the button layout and operation 
 on the back. Worst of all is the f*g LV button, always blinding the 
 viewfinder and flashing the screen in my eyes as I try  change the AF point 
 at eye level.
 

It took me a while, but I eventually learned not to hit the LV button when 
changing focus points, but I would be happy if it wasn't there.

 In all other respects, I think of the K-7 as a good step forward from the 
 K20D. IMO, the best improvements of the K-7 are about metering and AF. I love 
 the much quieter shutter.
 
Yes, in both focus and metering, it's a big step up from the K20D. And in the 
end, the more accurate metering renders it less noisy in use.
Paul

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Re: GESO slideshow - noba

2010-06-18 Thread Derby Chang

Cotty wrote:

On 15/6/10, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed:

  

I wrote a little love letter to Sydney

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_06/10_06_bathurst/01.htm



Very nice Derbs. That's a lot of shots.

May i make a suggestion to anyone doing a slideshow with music that
effectively locks in the viewer to the presentation? Rather than set a
simple time limit on each pic of (say) 3 seconds and go for quantity -
start from a different perspective. By this I mean, cull the shots and
show the best ones, but let them breathe - and do the mixes (dissolves)
manually. This takes a long time to do but the rewards can be greater.

So for Derby's slideshow, I would have started with less music length -
3 to 4 minutes max. In that time we can get in maybe 10 or 12 shots a
minute instead of 20! Then you have to 'feel' the transition points
rather than set a numerical value. You do this by watching the edit in
real time (1X speed) and 'feel' the transition coming and think about
what you want to see next. For a presentation such as this, each picture
arguably has a natural length to view but they are not all the same.
It's not something I can easily explain - but it comes from the heart -
knowing how long is just right. For some pics, 3 seconds is okay, but
for most it's too short. Legs need time :-)

When I look for a point to mix from one shot to another, the mix
duration becomes a factor. A one second mix means that the half-way
point is half-a second into/out of the mix - so the midpoint is the
point I aim at imagining as I watch in real time. I play, have my finger
ready over the pause button (JKL - anyone who's ever edited video will
be intimate with these keys in any system = J is -1X, K is stop, L is
+1X speed) and as you imagine the mix happening, you hit stop in the
middle of it. Tricky with 12 and 18 frame mixes, and even more tricky
with 4 second mixes, but can be done. Get a feel for it. Easier with
still shots - try it with moving video :-)

The outgoing and incoming shots sometimes don't mix (dissolve) well -
crucial here to look at where the eye is going at the end of the
outgoing shot because this is also where the eye will be in the incoming
shot. Some shots will jar, so change the choice of incoming. Experience
will benefit here. Practice.

Nothing wrong with Derby's slideshow, but we strive to improve, right?
This could be so much better - if the desire is there to move it on into
something stellar.

Hope you don't mind the words Derbs.

Cheers

.02 (frames ;)

  




Wow. Thanks for looking, and thanks Cotty for the thoughtful advice. It 
is amazing how, given so many choices in AV, it does seem to boil down 
to a few classic rules. Us stills guys have it so much easier


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Re: GESO cloudy day seascapes

2010-06-18 Thread Bob Sullivan
Christine,
I like the color and sweep of the 1st shot best.
Wow, that's a windy day when the flags stand out straight!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Christine  Aguila
cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 we were at a dog beach on a cloudy day.  I've always loved cloudy, windy,
 and cool days at the beach.

 http://www.caguila.com/caguila/sea/


 comments welcome.  cheers, christine


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Re: PESO - Looking for the Perfect Wave

2010-06-18 Thread Derby Chang

Brian Walters wrote:

I was trying for a very simple composition here.   It's sort of what I
wanted but not sure if it quite works:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP7062.html

I cropped some off the top and left. K200D and 55-300 mm zoom.

Comments welcome.



Cheers

Brian
  


Little hand says it's time to rock and roll

Nice part of the world up there. Darn gorgeous sidelight.

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Re: GESO cloudy day seascapes

2010-06-18 Thread Jack Davis
Love the lighting. 

Jack

--- On Thu, 6/17/10, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:

 From: Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net
 Subject: GESO cloudy day seascapes
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010, 8:14 PM
 we were at a dog beach on a cloudy
 day.  I've always loved cloudy, windy, and cool days at
 the beach.
 
 http://www.caguila.com/caguila/sea/
 
 
 comments welcome.  cheers, christine 
 
 
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Re: Exposed

2010-06-18 Thread Derby Chang

Bob W wrote:

Sao Paulo is like Reading, only much farther away
--- Peter Fleming


Thoroughly recommended - put your trench coats on, pull the collars up, and
get down there, it is excellent and very thought-provoking. Not only do they
have a lot of great classic photos by some very famous names, and some less
well-known photos by less well-known people, they also have artefacts such
as the Contax Walker Evans used for his subway photos.

It's a big exhibition, so you need to put aside a fair chunk of time for it,
but it's well worth seeing. The Japanese dogging snaps are probably worth an
exhibition just on their own - amazing stuff.

A couple of reviews:
http://www.foto8.com/new/online/blog/1204-exposed

http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2010/may/27/exposed-photography-tate
-modern

Bob


  


Mind boggled. What a broad theme for a show, but it sounds like it works.

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Re: Peso - Metro-North

2010-06-18 Thread Jack Davis
Like the tone and composition. Don't quite understand the upper story. Looks 
like a one dimensional movie set flat. ;)

Jack

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 From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com
 Subject: Peso - Metro-North
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010, 8:43 PM
 
 Took the Pentax lens with me on an overnight to visit
 friends a couple of hours north of NYC...
 
 and got this on the way from the train window.
 
 (yes, I did convert it to BW, too,  but like it better
 in color)
 
 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Random-stuff/2607384_N3Nso/1/904798116_h8SiL/Large
 
 http://tinyurl.com/2ako6e8
 
 
 ann
 
 
 
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Re: A cap of flowers

2010-06-18 Thread Derby Chang

Bob W wrote:

On the way back from Tate Modern this afternoon I cycled through the
churchyard of St. Nicholas, Deptford, where I stopped to wander around and
pay my respects to Christopher Marlowe, who is buried there. 


http://www.web-options.com/Top12/content/_6175850_large.html

Comments etc. welcome.

Bob

And I will make thee beds of roses
With a thousand fragrant posies,
A cap of flowers, and a kirtle
Embroidered all with leaves of myrtle

--- Christopher Marlowe




  


Ah, a good woman in a kirtle. Nothing better. Interesting pic to make 
after the Tate show.


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Re: PESO: Illinois Barn Mk2

2010-06-18 Thread Jack Davis
Better!

Jack

--- On Thu, 6/17/10, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote:

 From: Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net
 Subject: PESO: Illinois Barn Mk2
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010, 11:09 PM
 In response to comments - an attempt
 to make it punchier:
 http://mitch.myzen.co.uk/PDML/IllinoisBarn2.jpg
 
 Original here:
 http://mitch.myzen.co.uk/PDML/20100510-_IGP2850.jpg
 
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RE: A cap of flowers

2010-06-18 Thread Bob W
 Bob W wrote:
  On the way back from Tate Modern this afternoon I cycled through the
  churchyard of St. Nicholas, Deptford, where I stopped to wander
 around and
  pay my respects to Christopher Marlowe, who is buried there.
 
  http://www.web-options.com/Top12/content/_6175850_large.html
 
  Comments etc. welcome.
 
  Bob
 
  And I will make thee beds of roses
  With a thousand fragrant posies,
  A cap of flowers, and a kirtle
  Embroidered all with leaves of myrtle
 
  --- Christopher Marlowe
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Ah, a good woman in a kirtle. Nothing better. Interesting pic to make
 after the Tate show.
 

well, more in keeping with the show I did also take some pictures of an
enormous black carrion crow on a gravestone... but they don't really work.

Crow's Theology

Crow realized God loved him-
Otherwise, he would have dropped dead. 
So that was proved. 
Crow reclined, marvelling, on his heart-beat. 

And he realized that God spoke Crow-
Just existing was His revelation. 

But what Loved the stones and spoke stone? 
They seemed to exist too. 
And what spoke that strange silence
After his clamour of caws faded? 

And what loved the shot-pellets
That dribbled from those strung-up mummifying crows? 
What spoke the silence of lead? 

Crow realized there were two Gods-

One of them much bigger than the other
Loving his enemies
And having all the weapons.

--- Ted Hughes




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PESO railway

2010-06-18 Thread Madame RD
oops! had forgottent to put PESO in front of my preceding post .. 
shame on me !  so I went  to visit a friend  who has a pond whith 
goldfish  2 koïs in Houdan 50 mns ride to the south east .  a complete 
change of landscape .


didn't feel like reading so I shot from my seat...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_meduse/4681362751/in/set-72157624229986416/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_meduse/4681969380/in/set-72157624229986416/

some funny reflections invited themselves
http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_meduse/4681996960/in/set-72157624229986416/

only 45mns from Paris : fields ...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_meduse/4681372217/in/set-72157624229986416/

as usual all comments welcome ...

dominique



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Re: PESO - Hydrant in Long Branch

2010-06-18 Thread Madame RD
If you ever need an excuse for travelling : picturing fire hydrants all 
over the world ... it's the kind of thing I'd like to do , not with 
hydrants though . ;-)


dominique

Le 18/06/10 02:46, Rick Womer a écrit :

Actually a pretty distinctive hydrant.  Chicago has distinctive ones, too, but 
I didn't see =the= hydrant in =the= setting to photograph.  You know how it is.

This photo, I like.  The person in the background adds a lot.  The phone pole, 
not so much.

Cheers,

Rick

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From: frank theriaultknarftheria...@gmail.com
Subject: PESO - Hydrant in Long Branch
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail ListPDML@pdml.net
Date: Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 10:10 PM
Long Branch is the suburb next to
ours (New Toronto).  I played hooky
from work today and we went for a walk.

This is what the fire hydrants look like there:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/06/hydrant-in-long-branch.html

In other words much the same as anywhere else.  Except
that this is a
Canada Valve Century.  I know that because my mother
used to work for
Canada Valve in the mid-seventies and this was their new
modern look
hydrant at the time.

They're now out of business.

Anyway, I like the photo, and hopefully you do, too. 
Comments welcome.


cheers,
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Re: OT: World Cup news

2010-06-18 Thread Madame RD

Le 17/06/10 22:36, Bruce Walker a écrit :


mike wilson wrote:

Bob W wrote:


Untrustworthy kraut, Herr Franz Backenschtabber, recently suggested
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8740637.stm) that 

under the wise tutelage of Sir Lord Cappello, Bt. of Turinham, 
Milanshire,

English football has progressed in a backwards direction.
The Association Football Association has published a video-tape which
emphatically and comprehensively refutes such Teutonic nonsense:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4CXY6TVBMc

English football is the envy of the civilised world.


Is there a footy match on?


If there is, you can't hear it over the sound of massed, angry hornets.

There was also a call to ban football/soccer from vuvuzela events.

-bmw



From what I heard, vuvuzelas are banned from Rugby grounds .. which 
have a mainly white audience . soccer is mainly black and vuvuzelas too.


the  good thing about Mexico- France was the absence of Vuvuzelas .. 
back to good old songs !  I'd rather not  speak of the match. England 
has one unfortunate goalkeeper,  we  had 8 useless players coached by a 
casting error O:-) !


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Re: GESO cloudy day seascapes

2010-06-18 Thread Madame RD

Le 18/06/10 05:14, Christine Aguila a écrit :


we were at a dog beach on a cloudy day.  I've always loved cloudy, 
windy, and cool days at the beach.


http://www.caguila.com/caguila/sea/


comments welcome.  cheers, christine


shuddering  I just dont like windy weathers  ;). my 
favorites : 3 and 4.


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Re: A cap of flowers

2010-06-18 Thread Madame RD

Le 18/06/10 13:32, Bob W a écrit :

Crow's Theology



--- Ted Hughes

   

Pity you couldnt get the pics . I love this poem  and crows .

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Re: GESO - Bob, Colossus, concrete and wood.

2010-06-18 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2010-06-17 23:18, Christine Aguila wrote:

I think I'm going to order the F-2.  I have the F-5xb--nice bag.


I love the F-2.  I'm on my second one after one of my cats has a 
digestive situation that involved my first one.  The only think I change 
is I take the big web strap off and replace it with a wide neoprene 
strap, because my F-2 gets stuffed to the gills and thus heavy.


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PESO: Scrub Jay

2010-06-18 Thread Jack Davis
This is an out of character Scrub Jay. These are the Calif. version of a Blue 
Jay. They posses the manner of other Jays I've known, (raucous bullies) but 
don't sport the top knot.
This one came screaming onto the fence I believe only to scatter the Finches 
from their thistle seed feeder.
I had the 55~300 mounted on the K10 back up and set it off just as he shook and 
fluffed up his feathers. Gives him a completely out of character cuddly non 
Jay look.

About 50%(?) crop shot from maybe 30 yards away at 300mm lens setting.

Jack

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Re: PESO: Scrub Jay

2010-06-18 Thread P. J. Alling

On 6/18/2010 8:46 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

This is an out of character Scrub Jay. These are the Calif. version of a Blue 
Jay. They posses the manner of other Jays I've known, (raucous bullies) but 
don't sport the top knot.
This one came screaming onto the fence I believe only to scatter the Finches 
from their thistle seed feeder.
I had the 55~300 mounted on the K10 back up and set it off just as he shook and fluffed 
up his feathers. Gives him a completely out of character cuddly non Jay look.

About 50%(?) crop shot from maybe 30 yards away at 300mm lens setting.

Jack

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=520
   


Cuddly?  Just looks like a scruffy bully to me.






   



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Re: K-7 v LX

2010-06-18 Thread eckinator
2010/6/17 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com:

 I was thinking of super glueing a plastic non-conductive articulated
 hot-shoe to the rear of an iPad for only a couple hundred more. It would act
 as a waist level finder, built in field editor, and digital picture frame
 all at the same time. When it's off the hot-shoe a Super-Clamp with fake
 hot-shoe would attach it to your tripod or anything nearby.

Thinking of what Malcolm wrote:
When Shel B used to regularly post here about street photography, I started
using a waist level finder, as it was /_less_obvious_/ I was taking photos in
the way that raising the camera to your eye is.

Also, are there any plans for an iPad nano that I don't know of? =P
I would think a standard iPad would somewhat limit your use of wide angles.

Cheers
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Re: PESO: Scrub Jay

2010-06-18 Thread Jack Davis
Okay, P. J., he looks like he just emerged victorious from a fight to the death 
with a badger. ;)

Thanks for commenting.

Jack

--- On Fri, 6/18/10, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: PESO: Scrub Jay
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 6:01 AM
 On 6/18/2010 8:46 AM, Jack Davis
 wrote:
  This is an out of character Scrub Jay. These are the
 Calif. version of a Blue Jay. They posses the manner of
 other Jays I've known, (raucous bullies) but don't sport the
 top knot.
  This one came screaming onto the fence I believe only
 to scatter the Finches from their thistle seed feeder.
  I had the 55~300 mounted on the K10 back up and set it
 off just as he shook and fluffed up his feathers. Gives him
 a completely out of character cuddly non Jay look.
 
  About 50%(?) crop shot from maybe 30 yards away at
 300mm lens setting.
 
  Jack
 
  http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=520
     
 
 Cuddly?  Just looks like a scruffy bully to me.
 
 
 
 
 
     
 
 
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Re: PESO: Scrub Jay

2010-06-18 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Interesting portrait of an interesting bird.  I like it.

Dan

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Okay, P. J., he looks like he just emerged victorious from a fight to the 
 death with a badger. ;)

 Thanks for commenting.

 Jack

 --- On Fri, 6/18/10, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: PESO: Scrub Jay
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 6:01 AM
 On 6/18/2010 8:46 AM, Jack Davis
 wrote:
  This is an out of character Scrub Jay. These are the
 Calif. version of a Blue Jay. They posses the manner of
 other Jays I've known, (raucous bullies) but don't sport the
 top knot.
  This one came screaming onto the fence I believe only
 to scatter the Finches from their thistle seed feeder.
  I had the 55~300 mounted on the K10 back up and set it
 off just as he shook and fluffed up his feathers. Gives him
 a completely out of character cuddly non Jay look.
 
  About 50%(?) crop shot from maybe 30 yards away at
 300mm lens setting.
 
  Jack
 
  http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=520
 

 Cuddly?  Just looks like a scruffy bully to me.


 
 
 
 


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Re: PESO: Scrub Jay

2010-06-18 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Dan! Was offered only because of its out of character appearance.

Jack



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 Subject: Re: PESO: Scrub Jay
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 Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 6:47 AM
 Interesting portrait of an
 interesting bird.  I like it.
 
 Dan
 
 On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Okay, P. J., he looks like he just emerged victorious
 from a fight to the death with a badger. ;)
 
  Thanks for commenting.
 
  Jack
 
  --- On Fri, 6/18/10, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: PESO: Scrub Jay
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 6:01 AM
  On 6/18/2010 8:46 AM, Jack Davis
  wrote:
   This is an out of character Scrub Jay. These
 are the
  Calif. version of a Blue Jay. They posses the
 manner of
  other Jays I've known, (raucous bullies) but don't
 sport the
  top knot.
   This one came screaming onto the fence I
 believe only
  to scatter the Finches from their thistle seed
 feeder.
   I had the 55~300 mounted on the K10 back up
 and set it
  off just as he shook and fluffed up his feathers.
 Gives him
  a completely out of character cuddly non Jay
 look.
  
   About 50%(?) crop shot from maybe 30 yards
 away at
  300mm lens setting.
  
   Jack
  
   http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=520
  
 
  Cuddly?  Just looks like a scruffy bully to me.
 
 
  
  
  
  
 
 
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Re: PESO: Scrub Jay

2010-06-18 Thread P N Stenquist

Good focus and framing. Some flash fill would have helped here.
Paul
On Jun 18, 2010, at 8:46 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

This is an out of character Scrub Jay. These are the Calif. version  
of a Blue Jay. They posses the manner of other Jays I've known,  
(raucous bullies) but don't sport the top knot.
This one came screaming onto the fence I believe only to scatter the  
Finches from their thistle seed feeder.
I had the 55~300 mounted on the K10 back up and set it off just as  
he shook and fluffed up his feathers. Gives him a completely out of  
character cuddly non Jay look.


About 50%(?) crop shot from maybe 30 yards away at 300mm lens setting.

Jack

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Re: PESO: Scrub Jay

2010-06-18 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Paul! Yeah, it came out of the camera as a virtual silhouette. Only the 
back and transparent tail feathers displayed any detail prior to PP'g. 

Jack

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 Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 7:07 AM
 Good focus and framing. Some flash
 fill would have helped here.
 Paul
 On Jun 18, 2010, at 8:46 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
 
  This is an out of character Scrub Jay. These are the
 Calif. version of a Blue Jay. They posses the manner of
 other Jays I've known, (raucous bullies) but don't sport the
 top knot.
  This one came screaming onto the fence I believe only
 to scatter the Finches from their thistle seed feeder.
  I had the 55~300 mounted on the K10 back up and set it
 off just as he shook and fluffed up his feathers. Gives him
 a completely out of character cuddly non Jay look.
  
  About 50%(?) crop shot from maybe 30 yards away at
 300mm lens setting.
  
  Jack
  
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Re: handing the camera to someone else

2010-06-18 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 3:18 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've never met an
 American Eskimo that was anything other than a mean spirited prick.

Cause their friggin cold.

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Re: geso a few trip funnies

2010-06-18 Thread mike wilson
It's a sort of supressed (I _am_ English) giggle.  Who is Salt?

On 18 June 2010 03:52, Christine  Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:

 - Original Message - From: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com

 Does snurk count?  Who is Salt?

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OT Interesting KLM advert at Manchester

2010-06-18 Thread mike wilson
I can think of one way of doing it but would have expected more
movement.  Anyone else?

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=6NPF0A_vGC4

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Re: OT Interesting KLM advert at Manchester

2010-06-18 Thread Rob Studdert
On 19/06/2010, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 I can think of one way of doing it but would have expected more
 movement.  Anyone else?

 http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=6NPF0A_vGC4

Intriguing

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Re: Noise with K7

2010-06-18 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jun 18, 2010, at 3:25, Dario Bonazza wrote:
 
 In all other respects, I think of the K-7 as a good step forward from the 
 K20D. IMO, the best improvements of the K-7 are about metering and AF. I love 
 the much quieter shutter.
 

I handed the K7 off to someone at a ballgame recently, to get a picture of me 
with the wife and kid.

I didn't even know he'd taken the photo until he handed the camera back and I 
saw the preview.  I was waiting for the shutter sound and never heard it.

(And thanks to the improved AF, I knew he wasn't going to stand there for half 
a minute saying nothing's happening as it failed to lock onto anything.  Yay!)

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Peso Riverview Park zoo and Park

2010-06-18 Thread David J Brooks
Had an all day charter Thursday to a zoo and park in Peterborough.
Nice spot, small
but family friendly. Not a lot of animals and those that are there are
tough to photograph due to the fence locations.

Had some attractions down by the river.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11149012

I titled this one ' Did you feel something

K10D, DA F 50-200, Manual focus on the carp.

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OT: Black Hawk down on bikes

2010-06-18 Thread Bob W
Stupidity:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-volk/bicycling-banned-in-black_b_6114
32.html

Anti-stupidity:
http://bicyclecolo.org/articles/black-hawk-bike-ban-pg1118.htm




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Re: Noise with K7

2010-06-18 Thread David J Brooks
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 (And thanks to the improved AF, I knew he wasn't going to stand there for 
 half a minute saying nothing's happening as it failed to lock onto 
 anything.  Yay!)

  -Charles

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Re: Noise with K7

2010-06-18 Thread Dario Bonazza

David J Brooks wrote:

If i ask anyone to take a picture of me, i put on a T shirt that say's
contrast so the lens knows were to start.

I've tried a T shirt reading nothing to focus on ad AF works on it too. 
How is that possible? Has Pentax improved AF so much?

;-))

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Re: Peso Riverview Park zoo and Park

2010-06-18 Thread Jack Davis
Good thing Carp are bottom feeders. ;)

Jack

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 Subject: Peso Riverview Park zoo and Park
 To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net, Barbara Brooks bbaro...@gmail.com, 
 Petch Dianne dianne.pe...@yahoo.com
 Cc: Home Sarah sarah.h...@firstgroup.com, Conley Leah 
 leah.con...@firstgroup.com, Smillie Dale dale.smil...@firstgroup.com
 Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 8:16 AM
 Had an all day charter Thursday to a
 zoo and park in Peterborough.
 Nice spot, small
 but family friendly. Not a lot of animals and those that
 are there are
 tough to photograph due to the fence locations.
 
 Had some attractions down by the river.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11149012
 
 I titled this one ' Did you feel something
 
 K10D, DA F 50-200, Manual focus on the carp.
 
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Re: OT: Black Hawk down on bikes

2010-06-18 Thread Jack Davis
Stupidity link won't open.

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 From: Bob W p...@web-options.com
 Subject: OT: Black Hawk down on bikes
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 8:19 AM
 Stupidity:
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-volk/bicycling-banned-in-black_b_6114
 32.html
 
 Anti-stupidity:
 http://bicyclecolo.org/articles/black-hawk-bike-ban-pg1118.htm
 
 
 
 
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RE: A cap of flowers

2010-06-18 Thread Bob W
 Le 18/06/10 13:32, Bob W a écrit :
  Crow's Theology
 
 
 
  --- Ted Hughes
 
 
 Pity you couldnt get the pics . I love this poem  and crows .
 
 dominique

sorry - just been back in to LR to have another look, but there's really
nothing showable.

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RE: OT: World Cup news

2010-06-18 Thread Bob W
  From what I heard, vuvuzelas are banned from Rugby grounds .. which
 have a mainly white audience . soccer is mainly black and vuvuzelas
 too.
 
 the  good thing about Mexico- France was the absence of Vuvuzelas ..
 back to good old songs !  I'd rather not  speak of the match. England
 has one unfortunate goalkeeper,  we  had 8 useless players coached by a
 casting error O:-) !
 
 dominique

this could be USA's year!

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RE: OT: Black Hawk down on bikes

2010-06-18 Thread Bob W
try:  http://tinyurl.com/23eu27q 

 
 Stupidity link won't open.
 
 --- On Fri, 6/18/10, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 
  From: Bob W p...@web-options.com
  Subject: OT: Black Hawk down on bikes
  To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
  Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 8:19 AM
  Stupidity:
  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-volk/bicycling-banned-in-
 black_b_6114
  32.html
 
  Anti-stupidity:
  http://bicyclecolo.org/articles/black-hawk-bike-ban-pg1118.htm



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RE: OT Interesting KLM advert at Manchester

2010-06-18 Thread Bob W
 
 I can think of one way of doing it but would have expected more
 movement.  Anyone else?
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=6NPF0A_vGC4

I think he is sitting on a carbon-fibre chair which is shaped to his right
leg and buttocks and attached through the shoe to the platform. He has been
told to minimise movement so that the chair doesn't bounce and spoil the
illusion.

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RE: OT: Black Hawk down on bikes

2010-06-18 Thread Jack Davis
Nope..still won't. hmm

Jack

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 From: Bob W p...@web-options.com
 Subject: RE: OT: Black Hawk down on bikes
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 8:52 AM
 try:  http://tinyurl.com/23eu27q 
 
  
  Stupidity link won't open.
  
  --- On Fri, 6/18/10, Bob W p...@web-options.com
 wrote:
  
   From: Bob W p...@web-options.com
   Subject: OT: Black Hawk down on bikes
   To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
   Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 8:19 AM
   Stupidity:
   http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-volk/bicycling-banned-in-
  black_b_6114
   32.html
  
   Anti-stupidity:
   http://bicyclecolo.org/articles/black-hawk-bike-ban-pg1118.htm
 
 
 
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Re: OT: Black Hawk down on bikes

2010-06-18 Thread steve harley

On 2010-06-18 09:19 , Bob W wrote:

Stupidity:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-volk/bicycling-banned-in-black_b_6114
32.html


(your email system is not using format=flowed, which means line breaks 
kill links whether or not angle brackets are used)


it's been in the news around here, and it's fairly clear that the 
casinos, who have the Board of Aldermen in their pockets, want to avoid 
a lawsuit when a drunk gambler pours himself into a car then hits a biker


creating a strong sense of bike awareness is the answer, i think, but it 
won't be easy given the majority of the traffic is people who will never 
be there long enough to get used to the streets


by contrast take Crested Butte, which has as strictly enforced 15mph 
speed limit and a huge bike culture; it helps that Crested Butte's 
center is flat, and that a lot more people stick around more than four 
hours, and that it's one of the birthplaces of the mountain bike ...


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Re: OT: Black Hawk down on bikes

2010-06-18 Thread steve harley

On 2010-06-18 10:37 , Jack Davis wrote:

Nope..still won't. hmm


worked for me, but the spaces after the open angle bracket probably mess 
up some email readers; try


http://tinyurl.com/23eu27q


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Re: OT: Black Hawk down on bikes

2010-06-18 Thread William Robb


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Subject: OT: Black Hawk down on bikes


Stupidity:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-volk/bicycling-banned-in-black_b_6114
32.html



Thanks for the laugh. It gave me an excuse to draft one of my carefully 
worded emails explaining what I think is wrong with their heads.


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Re: Peso Riverview Park zoo and Park

2010-06-18 Thread P. J. Alling
Interesting concept, the duck needs to be more in focus or more out of 
focus.


On 6/18/2010 11:36 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

Good thing Carp are bottom feeders. ;)

Jack

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From: David J Brookspentko...@gmail.com
Subject: Peso Riverview Park zoo and Park
To: Pentax Discusspdml@pdml.net, Barbara Brooksbbaro...@gmail.com, Petch 
Diannedianne.pe...@yahoo.com
Cc: Home Sarahsarah.h...@firstgroup.com, Conley Leahleah.con...@firstgroup.com, 
Smillie Daledale.smil...@firstgroup.com
Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 8:16 AM
Had an all day charter Thursday to a
zoo and park in Peterborough.
Nice spot, small
but family friendly. Not a lot of animals and those that
are there are
tough to photograph due to the fence locations.

Had some attractions down by the river.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11149012

I titled this one ' Did you feel something

K10D, DA F 50-200, Manual focus on the carp.

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Peso Riverview zoo II

2010-06-18 Thread David J Brooks
Some fungi.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11149011

Told ya not much to photograph here.:-)

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RE: OT: Black Hawk down on bikes

2010-06-18 Thread Bob W
  Stupidity:
  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-volk/bicycling-banned-in-
 black_b_6114
  32.html

 (your email system is not using format=flowed, which means line breaks
 kill links whether or not angle brackets are used)


Outlook doesn't seem to give me the option.

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Re: OT Interesting KLM advert at Manchester

2010-06-18 Thread Larry Colen

On Jun 18, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Bob W wrote:

 
 I can think of one way of doing it but would have expected more
 movement.  Anyone else?
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=6NPF0A_vGC4
 
 I think he is sitting on a carbon-fibre chair which is shaped to his right
 leg and buttocks and attached through the shoe to the platform. He has been
 told to minimise movement so that the chair doesn't bounce and spoil the
 illusion.
That's basically my thought, though my first guess was steel under his pants 
leg.

 
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Re: OT Interesting KLM advert at Manchester

2010-06-18 Thread Larry Colen

On Jun 18, 2010, at 10:45 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

 
 On Jun 18, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Bob W wrote:
 
 
 I can think of one way of doing it but would have expected more
 movement.  Anyone else?
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=6NPF0A_vGC4
 
 I think he is sitting on a carbon-fibre chair which is shaped to his right
 leg and buttocks and attached through the shoe to the platform. He has been
 told to minimise movement so that the chair doesn't bounce and spoil the
 illusion.
 That's basically my thought, though my first guess was steel under his pants 
 leg.

1:16 into it, you can see the back support under his shirt.


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Re: PESO railway

2010-06-18 Thread Larry Colen

On Jun 18, 2010, at 4:47 AM, Madame RD wrote:

 oops! had forgottent to put PESO in front of my preceding post .. shame 
 on me !  so I went  to visit a friend  who has a pond whith goldfish  2 koïs 
 in Houdan 50 mns ride to the south east .  a complete change of landscape 
 .
 
 didn't feel like reading so I shot from my seat...
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_meduse/4681362751/in/set-72157624229986416/
I liked the shot of the tracks.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_meduse/4681969380/in/set-72157624229986416/
The phone pole didn't really work for me.

 
 some funny reflections invited themselves
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_meduse/4681996960/in/set-72157624229986416/

This was amusing.

 
 only 45mns from Paris : fields ...
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_meduse/4681372217/in/set-72157624229986416/

I liked this shot of the fields.

The windows on your train are startlingly clean.
 
 as usual all comments welcome ...
 
 dominique
 
 
 
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Re: OT: Black Hawk down on bikes

2010-06-18 Thread steve harley

On 2010-06-18 11:44 , Bob W wrote:

Stupidity:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-volk/bicycling-banned-in-

black_b_6114

32.html


(your email system is not using format=flowed, which means line breaks
kill links whether or not angle brackets are used)



Outlook doesn't seem to give me the option.


yeah, at least as of a few years ago Outlook was so focused on HTML mail 
that it doesn't support some plain text best practices; i guess it's 
still worth using the angle brackets, as it's not worsening the problem, 
and it might help some email readers (and it's a standard)


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How to become a professional photographer

2010-06-18 Thread Larry Colen
Professional photography tips with Thomas, who has a digital camera and a wide 
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http://www.27bslash6.com/photography.html
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RE: How to become a professional photographer

2010-06-18 Thread Chris Mitchell
Larry Colen wrote:
 
 Professional photography tips with Thomas, who has a digital camera and
 a wide aperature.
 http://www.27bslash6.com/photography.html
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Very funny Larry. Thanks for pointing it out.

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Re: How to become a professional photographer

2010-06-18 Thread P. J. Alling

That just /sounds/ so *dirty* .

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Re: How to become a professional photographer

2010-06-18 Thread David Parsons
Wow, never heard of any of those tips before.  He writes good, he must
have a great keyboard.

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Re: How to become a professional photographer

2010-06-18 Thread Larry Colen

On Jun 18, 2010, at 11:29 AM, David Parsons wrote:

 Wow, never heard of any of those tips before.  He writes good, he must
 have a great keyboard.

Remember A is for Awesome.

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PDML Florac

2010-06-18 Thread Bob W
I'll be unsubscribing temporarily in a couple of hours. Heading off to
France for 2 weeks tomorrow, based in Florac, Lozere.
 http://www.mescevennes.com/ 

I'm looking forward to meeting Kiwi biologist Alastair Robertson, his wife
Masha and their baby, who are passing through following a conference in
Montpellier. If any other PDML Cro-Magnons happen to be in the area we are
meeting at the appropriately-named Café du Globe in Florac at 11am on
Wednesday. Neandertals also welcome, but watch your table manners.

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Re: Peso Riverview zoo II

2010-06-18 Thread Jack Davis
Cheeeze..I hope that never escapes from the zoo!! 8-(

Jack

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 Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 10:32 AM
 Some fungi.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11149011
 
 Told ya not much to photograph here.:-)
 
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Re: How to become a professional photographer

2010-06-18 Thread Ken Waller

He left out the need for a black camera body !

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

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Subject: Re: How to become a professional photographer



Wow, never heard of any of those tips before.  He writes good, he must
have a great keyboard.

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Re: How to become a professional photographer

2010-06-18 Thread Paul Sorenson

I usually set mine on P (Professional)

-p

On 6/18/2010 1:32 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Jun 18, 2010, at 11:29 AM, David Parsons wrote:

   

Wow, never heard of any of those tips before.  He writes good, he must
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Re: How to become a professional photographer

2010-06-18 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2010-06-18 14:07, Larry Colen wrote:

Professional photography tips with Thomas, who has a digital camera and a wide 
aperature.
http://www.27bslash6.com/photography.html


Hey, that guy's better than KR!!!

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RE: Comparison images K7, 645D

2010-06-18 Thread Coffman, Rooney
Check this link out for some interesting comparison pictures - 645D, K7, EOS 5D 
Mark II


http://ganref.jp/magazine/dcm/mag/10_06/645d/



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Re: OT: Black Hawk down on bikes

2010-06-18 Thread William Robb


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 Stupidity:
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-volk/bicycling-banned-in-
black_b_6114
 32.html

(your email system is not using format=flowed, which means line breaks
kill links whether or not angle brackets are used)



Outlook doesn't seem to give me the option.



Try going into your preferences and tell it to send everything as plain text 
(if you haven't already).


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RE: Peso Riverview zoo II

2010-06-18 Thread Bob W
don't worry - the French would eat it.

 
 Cheeeze..I hope that never escapes from the zoo!! 8-(
 
 Jack
 
 --- On Fri, 6/18/10, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
  Subject: Peso Riverview zoo II
  To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net
  Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 10:32 AM
  Some fungi.
 
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11149011
 
  Told ya not much to photograph here.:-)
 
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RE: OT: Black Hawk down on bikes

2010-06-18 Thread Bob W
 
   Stupidity:
   http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-volk/bicycling-banned-in-
  black_b_6114
   32.html
 
  (your email system is not using format=flowed, which means line
 breaks
  kill links whether or not angle brackets are used)
 
 
  Outlook doesn't seem to give me the option.
 
 
 Try going into your preferences and tell it to send everything as plain
 text
 (if you haven't already).
 

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Re: Noise with K7

2010-06-18 Thread 272yb
FUNNY

- Original Message -
From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 4:31:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: Noise with K7


On Jun 18, 2010, at 1:25 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote:

 
 
 In all other respects, I think of the K-7 as a good step forward from the 
 K20D. IMO, the best improvements of the K-7 are about metering and AF. I love 
 the much quieter shutter.

More noise on the sensor, less from the shutter?
 

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Re: Comparison images K7, 645D

2010-06-18 Thread AlunFoto
From looking at the macro shots, I wouldn't place too much confidence
in these results. Looks like the focus is screwed on both the Canon
and the 645 shot.

The 645 bokeh looks really delicious on both the macro and the
cherry-tree shots though. :-)

Look forward to see some shots from some more concious testers...

Jostein

2010/6/18 Coffman, Rooney rcoff...@sapc.edu:
 Check this link out for some interesting comparison pictures - 645D, K7, EOS 
 5D Mark II


 http://ganref.jp/magazine/dcm/mag/10_06/645d/



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PESO: Zion Afternoon

2010-06-18 Thread Jack Davis
Ran across a strip of 120 that had fallen back of a bureau in the bedroom.
Glassed it on the lightbox and decided to have it scanned.
It was one that had been rejected (by me) some years ago..pre PS.
Sun angle flattens some of the darker distant elements, but by pumping the sun 
struck and adjacent areas brings it back a little, so am somewhat torn as to 
its worth.

Your opinions sought. Thanks!

Jack

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Re: Comparison images K7, 645D

2010-06-18 Thread Scott Loveless
On 6/18/10, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote:

  The 645 bokeh looks really delicious on both the macro and the
  cherry-tree shots though. :-)

The 120/4 macro is the most wonderful lens ever made.  Ever.

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RE: Peso Riverview zoo II

2010-06-18 Thread Jack Davis
Yeah, they've been known to do that.

Jack

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 From: Bob W p...@web-options.com
 Subject: RE: Peso Riverview zoo II
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 12:51 PM
 don't worry - the French would eat
 it.
 
  
  Cheeeze..I hope that never escapes from the zoo!! 8-(
  
  Jack
  
  --- On Fri, 6/18/10, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  
   From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
   Subject: Peso Riverview zoo II
   To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net
   Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 10:32 AM
   Some fungi.
  
   http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11149011
  
   Told ya not much to photograph here.:-)
  
   Dave
 
 
 
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Re: Noise with K7

2010-06-18 Thread Jack Davis
LOL..

Jack

--- On Fri, 6/18/10, 27...@comcast.net 27...@comcast.net wrote:

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 Subject: Re: Noise with K7
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 12:55 PM
 FUNNY
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 4:31:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada
 Eastern
 Subject: Re: Noise with K7
 
 
 On Jun 18, 2010, at 1:25 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote:
 
  
  
  In all other respects, I think of the K-7 as a good
 step forward from the K20D. IMO, the best improvements of
 the K-7 are about metering and AF. I love the much quieter
 shutter.
 
 More noise on the sensor, less from the shutter?
  
 
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Re: PDML Florac

2010-06-18 Thread Doug Brewer

Bob W wrote:

I'll be unsubscribing temporarily in a couple of hours. Heading off to
France for 2 weeks tomorrow, based in Florac, Lozere.
 http://www.mescevennes.com/ 

I'm looking forward to meeting Kiwi biologist Alastair Robertson, his wife
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Wednesday. Neandertals also welcome, but watch your table manners.

Salut!

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Re: Noise with K7

2010-06-18 Thread drd1135
Is this noise gone on the Kx?
-Original Message-
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 13:19:37 
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Noise with K7

LOL..

Jack

--- On Fri, 6/18/10, 27...@comcast.net 27...@comcast.net wrote:

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 Subject: Re: Noise with K7
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 12:55 PM
 FUNNY
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 4:31:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada
 Eastern
 Subject: Re: Noise with K7
 
 
 On Jun 18, 2010, at 1:25 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote:
 
  
  
  In all other respects, I think of the K-7 as a good
 step forward from the K20D. IMO, the best improvements of
 the K-7 are about metering and AF. I love the much quieter
 shutter.
 
 More noise on the sensor, less from the shutter?
  
 
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Re: How to become a professional photographer

2010-06-18 Thread P. J. Alling

On 6/18/2010 3:45 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:

On 2010-06-18 14:07, Larry Colen wrote:
Professional photography tips with Thomas, who has a digital camera 
and a wide aperature.

http://www.27bslash6.com/photography.html


Hey, that guy's better than KR!!!

In this case using Kenny's full name might be useful, so of the poor 
sots might find the comparison enlightening.


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Re: Noise with K7

2010-06-18 Thread P. J. Alling

I shutter to think...

On 6/18/2010 4:29 PM, drd1...@gmail.com wrote:

Is this noise gone on the Kx?
-Original Message-
From: Jack Davisjdavi...@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 13:19:37
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Noise with K7

LOL..

Jack

--- On Fri, 6/18/10, 27...@comcast.net27...@comcast.net  wrote:

   

From: 27...@comcast.net27...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Noise with K7
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 12:55 PM
FUNNY

- Original Message -
From: Larry Colenl...@red4est.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 4:31:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada
Eastern
Subject: Re: Noise with K7


On Jun 18, 2010, at 1:25 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote:

 


In all other respects, I think of the K-7 as a good
   

step forward from the K20D. IMO, the best improvements of
the K-7 are about metering and AF. I love the much quieter
shutter.

More noise on the sensor, less from the shutter?
 
   

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Re: How to become a professional photographer

2010-06-18 Thread eckinator
2010/6/18 Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com:

 Hey, that guy's better than KR!!!

Definitely. He doesn't contradict himself even once.
Cheers
Ecke

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Re: How to become a professional photographer

2010-06-18 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2010-06-18 16:39, eckinator wrote:

2010/6/18 Doug Franklinjehosep...@mindspring.com:


Hey, that guy's better than KR!!!


Definitely. He doesn't contradict himself even once.


The photos are prettier, too.

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Re: OT Interesting KLM advert at Manchester

2010-06-18 Thread eckinator
2010/6/18 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com:

 1:16 into it, you can see the back support under his shirt.

Noticed that too before reading your mail. Nonetheless, the guy must
be pretty well exercised, perhaps he is really an Annoying Silver Man
Academy graduate...

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Re: PDML Florac

2010-06-18 Thread eckinator
Enjoy your trip Bob and bring back lots of full memory cards =)
Cheers
Ecke

2010/6/18 Bob W p...@web-options.com:
 I'll be unsubscribing temporarily in a couple of hours. Heading off to
 France for 2 weeks tomorrow, based in Florac, Lozere.
  http://www.mescevennes.com/ 

 I'm looking forward to meeting Kiwi biologist Alastair Robertson, his wife
 Masha and their baby, who are passing through following a conference in
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 meeting at the appropriately-named Café du Globe in Florac at 11am on
 Wednesday. Neandertals also welcome, but watch your table manners.

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RE: PESO: Zion Afternoon

2010-06-18 Thread Chris Mitchell
Jack Davis wrote:
 Ran across a strip of 120 that had fallen back of a bureau in the
 bedroom.
 Glassed it on the lightbox and decided to have it scanned.
 It was one that had been rejected (by me) some years ago..pre PS.
 Sun angle flattens some of the darker distant elements, but by pumping
 the sun struck and adjacent areas brings it back a little, so am
 somewhat torn as to its worth.
 
 Your opinions sought. Thanks!
 
 Jack
 
 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=521
 
 Mamiya 6, 50mm L (sold few years ago), FUJI RDP III

Excellent composition and a pleasing picture. The foreground is the best bit
in my opinion. It seems to get a bit flat (or is it haze) in the distance.

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Re: PESO: Zion Afternoon

2010-06-18 Thread Bob Sullivan
Jack,
Lovely!!!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Ran across a strip of 120 that had fallen back of a bureau in the bedroom.
 Glassed it on the lightbox and decided to have it scanned.
 It was one that had been rejected (by me) some years ago..pre PS.
 Sun angle flattens some of the darker distant elements, but by pumping the 
 sun struck and adjacent areas brings it back a little, so am somewhat torn as 
 to its worth.

 Your opinions sought. Thanks!

 Jack

 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=521

 Mamiya 6, 50mm L (sold few years ago), FUJI RDP III




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Re: PESO: Zion Afternoon

2010-06-18 Thread Keith Whaley

Jack Davis wrote:

Ran across a strip of 120 that had fallen back of a bureau in the bedroom.
Glassed it on the lightbox and decided to have it scanned.
It was one that had been rejected (by me) some years ago..pre PS.
Sun angle flattens some of the darker distant elements, but by pumping the sun 
struck and adjacent areas brings it back a little, so am somewhat torn as to 
its worth.

Your opinions sought. Thanks!

Jack

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=521

Mamiya 6, 50mm L (sold few years ago), FUJI RDP III


How do you fold the word “Zion” into the subject line?

Zion National Park in Utah? Might be. Beautiful shot...

keith



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Re: PDML Florac

2010-06-18 Thread Christine Aguila
Why it looks like it's all hills and grass.  Have fun anyway!  :-)  Looking 
forward to the photos.  cheers, Christine



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Subject: PDML Florac



I'll be unsubscribing temporarily in a couple of hours. Heading off to
France for 2 weeks tomorrow, based in Florac, Lozere.
 http://www.mescevennes.com/ 

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Masha and their baby, who are passing through following a conference in
Montpellier. If any other PDML Cro-Magnons happen to be in the area we are
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Wednesday. Neandertals also welcome, but watch your table manners.

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Re: geso a few trip funnies

2010-06-18 Thread Christine Aguila
I think SALT refers to the movie with Angelina Jolie, but I'm not sure. 
Cheers, Christine



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Subject: Re: geso a few trip funnies


It's a sort of supressed (I _am_ English) giggle.  Who is Salt?

On 18 June 2010 03:52, Christine  Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:


- Original Message - From: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com

Does snurk count? Who is Salt?

I don't know what snurk means. cheers, christine


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Re: K-7 v LX

2010-06-18 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Jun 18, 2010, at 06:09 , eckinator wrote:


2010/6/17 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com:


I was thinking of super glueing a plastic non-conductive articulated
hot-shoe to the rear of an iPad for only a couple hundred more. It  
would act
as a waist level finder, built in field editor, and digital picture  
frame
all at the same time. When it's off the hot-shoe a Super-Clamp with  
fake

hot-shoe would attach it to your tripod or anything nearby.


Thinking of what Malcolm wrote:
When Shel B used to regularly post here about street photography, I  
started
using a waist level finder, as it was /_less_obvious_/ I was taking  
photos in

the way that raising the camera to your eye is.

Also, are there any plans for an iPad nano that I don't know of? =P
I would think a standard iPad would somewhat limit your use of wide  
angles.



That's called the iTouch, but it's screen is similar in size to the  
K-7, and of course, the K-7 doesn't have WiFi which would allow the  
iPad to be a wireless big screen, and I ask WHY NOT!


:-)


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RE: PESO: Zion Afternoon

2010-06-18 Thread Jack Davis
Exactly!

Thanks, Chris!

Jack

--- On Fri, 6/18/10, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote:

 From: Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net
 Subject: RE: PESO: Zion Afternoon
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 1:57 PM
 Jack Davis wrote:
  Ran across a strip of 120 that had fallen back of a
 bureau in the
  bedroom.
  Glassed it on the lightbox and decided to have it
 scanned.
  It was one that had been rejected (by me) some years
 ago..pre PS.
  Sun angle flattens some of the darker distant
 elements, but by pumping
  the sun struck and adjacent areas brings it back a
 little, so am
  somewhat torn as to its worth.
  
  Your opinions sought. Thanks!
  
  Jack
  
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  Mamiya 6, 50mm L (sold few years ago), FUJI RDP III
 
 Excellent composition and a pleasing picture. The
 foreground is the best bit
 in my opinion. It seems to get a bit flat (or is it haze)
 in the distance.
 
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Re: PESO: Zion Afternoon

2010-06-18 Thread Jack Davis
Thank you, Bob!

Jack

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 From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: PESO: Zion Afternoon
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 2:05 PM
 Jack,
 Lovely!!!
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Ran across a strip of 120 that had fallen back of a
 bureau in the bedroom.
  Glassed it on the lightbox and decided to have it
 scanned.
  It was one that had been rejected (by me) some years
 ago..pre PS.
  Sun angle flattens some of the darker distant
 elements, but by pumping the sun struck and adjacent areas
 brings it back a little, so am somewhat torn as to its
 worth.
 
  Your opinions sought. Thanks!
 
  Jack
 
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Re: Peso - Metro-North

2010-06-18 Thread Ann Sanfedele

thanks Chrstine, P.J. ,Paul and Jack for you comments...

Jack,   It does look flat...  the angle of light, I guess.  I kinda like 
it.



P.J.  I  see what you mean but nothing to do with the Canon per se, I'd 
say... and I was shooting with a Pentax lens.


ann


Jack Davis wrote:


Like the tone and composition. Don't quite understand the upper story. Looks like a one 
dimensional movie set flat. ;)

Jack

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From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com
Subject: Peso - Metro-North
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Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010, 8:43 PM

Took the Pentax lens with me on an overnight to visit
friends a couple of hours north of NYC...

and got this on the way from the train window.

(yes, I did convert it to BW, too,  but like it better
in color)

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Random-stuff/2607384_N3Nso/1/904798116_h8SiL/Large

http://tinyurl.com/2ako6e8


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