RE: Theater Shoot--White Balance Check

[Chris Mitchell]

Christine Aguila wrote:

> Hi Everyone:  Not having much stage and theater experience, I was
> wondering
> if those folks who do, would be willing to check & see if the white
> balance
> is acceptable in the small gallery below.  Metadata--including white
> balance
> and tint--is below each photo.  I just printed page 1 of the contact
> sheets
> (in speed mode), and it prints just a hint more red than my monitor is
> showing, so I thought I'd throw this out there for feedback.
> 
> http://www.caguila.com/caguila/hayfever/index.html
> 
> Cheers, Christine

> 
Bit late replying, but I reckon WB's not far off. I always get stage shots a
little warm and the customers seem to like it.

I put one of them in LR3 and hit the B&W button with no adjustments. That
works well and would be good for the era of the show. Perhaps with a bit of
split toning? Also desaturating a little gives a nice vintage look too.

Of course, you did a good job of the shoot - they're also well composed and
lit and show the characters well. That's what the cast and director will be
looking for I'm sure...

Chris




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Re: OT:Sorry!

[Larry Colen]

On Jul 31, 2010, at 10:59 PM, Sandra Hermann wrote:

> I am not sure what happened to my Yahoo account. I have not been able to sign 
> in for a few weeks now, Then I find out on facebook that I am sending weird 
> messages to people.  Then I find out from my dad I sent him a Viagra 
> advertisement. So I sent Yahoo an email, which they answered to my yahoo 
> account which I could not sign in.  Finally, tonight I got back into my 
> account.  I am sorry for the inconvenience I am sure this must have caused 
> all of you.  I am not really sure what happened, I thought Mac's didn't get 
> virus so they couldn't spread crap like that.  
> Once again, I am very sorry

Macs may not get viruses like that, but there are a lot of phishing schemes 
that bypass the computer altogether and work purely on social engineering. 
Also, if you're on facebook, it has become a very fruitful vector for malware. 
You have to be very careful of what you click "like" on, and you should never 
"click on this button to see the video we're talking about", or "cut and paste 
this into your browser to see the video".


> sweet dreams
> jg
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Re: Off Topic: how do you ensure your file backup operations are not corrupt? (windows xp)

[Boris Liberman]

On 7/30/2010 12:13 PM, David Mann wrote:

For Windows I'd recommend taking a look at SyncToy.



Cheers,
Dave


Thanks, Dave, this tool proves optimal for some of my needs.

Boris

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Re: Old lens back in use

[Boris Liberman]

On 7/31/2010 8:59 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote:

Works well if a teeny bit soft - don't know whether that's the lens, my
inability to focus manually or a bit of shake / movement. Of course, on the
Micro 4/3 system it's equivalent to 270mm. I'll get round to doing some
controlled tests one day.


I would tend to think it is the camera/lens shake. The camera and the 
lens as small and light and shake becomes more visible.



Karin got a nice bit of foreground interest in this one during the Red
Arrows' display:
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Farnborough2010/slides/_1000248.html

That was taken with the Panasonic 14-42 lens.


Lovely picture indeed.

Boris

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Re: Old lens back in use

[Boris Liberman]

On 7/31/2010 11:45 AM, Bob W wrote:

Airbuses (Airbi?) always look as if they're about to fall out of the sky.


Either NatGeo or Disco(very) indicated that A380 was probably the 
largest passenger jet speaking bipedal apes can build given their 
current state of development...


Boris

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Re: StefSPORT

[Boris Liberman]

On 7/31/2010 12:13 PM, Cotty wrote:

Only there for the first half (45 mins) in an uneventful game, here are
some pics. ISO 800 on a 4 megapixel 1D with 70-200 f/4 (non-IS)
handheld, artificial lighting.




Like father, like son. You're talented, Cotty and so is Stefan (I hope I 
don't misspell his name).


I should be keeping that picture of him sitting on that hmmm object by 
the bar where we had a friendly get together and a drink 5 years ago. 
May be this picture will prove useful for his memoirs one day ;-).


Boris

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RE: StefSPORT

[Chris Mitchell]

Good stuff and a great start to his portfolio.
Chris

> -Original Message-
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> Cotty
> Sent: 31 July 2010 10:13
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> Subject: StefSPORT
> 
> I know some of you like to follow my lad's progress, and to keep it on
> topic he was weaned on an *ist DS and still uses it as 2nd camera.
> Ahead
> of studying photography at A level in September, he's started on a
> course of building a sports portfolio and I managed to get him into an
> English football game last week, Reading v Wolverhampton. Here he is
> looking the part:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Only there for the first half (45 mins) in an uneventful game, here are
> some pics. ISO 800 on a 4 megapixel 1D with 70-200 f/4 (non-IS)
> handheld, artificial lighting.
> 
> 
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Re: PESO - Bride on the Run

[William Robb]

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From: "paul stenquist"
Subject: PESO - Bride on the Run

In a park for the wedding party pics, wearing a gown that must have cost 
10K. And then it started to rain.




Bravo!!
That's wonderful.

William Robb 


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Re: Foul Mood & other whatnot

[William Robb]

I feel your pain. I was 4 inches bigger around than when you saw me in May, 
last year.

Working in a lumber yard has been very good for me.
I've ost 4 inches and actually gained some weight.

Calisthenics are good, but I don't think there is anything that replaces 
physical work done at a pace that is manageable.
This is not to imply that you should jump into a job slinging 2x4s at Home 
Depot.

Just sayin what was good for me.
I'll be 53 in November, and right now I am in better shape than since I was 
in my mid 30s.

Take your gym membership money and remodel your house.
By yourself.
You'd be amazed at how soothing taking down  a room with a wrecking bar and 
Sawzall can be.

Sanding drywall mud is Zen.

Funny almost hurting oneself in a big way while taking pictures story:
I was out with my 6x7 one day playing street photographer.
Over Broad Street, which is 4 lanes wide at that point, is a railway line.
Broad does an underpass at the railroad..
So, there I was on this train bridge trying to line up a picture of a hotel 
complex across from me.
And I'm wandering around with my 6x7 to my eye and I literally stepped off 
the bridge, which inexplicably, had no guard rail or fence.
I managed not to fall by only stepping off with one foot rather than both, 
but it was a very close call.


Get a dog.
Really. Get a dog that is big enough to walk with, Bichon sized or bigger.
Walking is excellent exercise for us, and is a good way of meeting a dog's 
psychological requirement of migrating.
It's a win/win situation for both, though frankly I think we get the better 
end of the deal with dogs.


best
bill


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From: "Christine  Aguila" 
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 9:19 PM
To: 
Subject: Foul Mood & other whatnot

I've been in an utterly foul mood all day today because of a fall I took 
during last night's theater shoot.  There was no serious injury, but I 
still acutely feel last night's moment of humiliation as I write this. 
This is the 2nd fall I've experienced while doing photography, the 1st 
being a stumble on some cracked sidewalk while out on a photowalk shortly 
before our holiday to San Diego this past June--gosh, I racked my knee on 
that one.


Accidents happen, I get that.  I'd like to do more professional photo ops 
for money, but if I don't get my balance, coordination, and weight back in 
line, my photographer's moniker is going to end up being *Miss 
Tumbleweed.* While it may surprise those who've met me recently, I once 
was fairly athletic--not a star athlete of any kind, mind you-- but I had 
solid hand-eye coordination, balance, strength, and fitness.  Well, that's 
all gone to pot lately, and this is a big problem because of the 
athleticism involved when doing photography, which I very much enjoy--and 
would enjoy even more if I wasn't so out of shape.


I need to change some habits--less time at the computer and much more 
physical activity of the calisthenics and exercise variety--not my 
favorite kind, but . . .  So, if I'm not around on list for a while, 
you'll know why.


Anyway, about the PDML Exhibition wrap up:  A few PDMLers have emailed me 
about not hearing back from Sue.  I've recently talked to her, and she 
admits to being behind sked, but as her original email states, she wants 
to close out shipping of prints etc by the end of August, so folks should 
keep that in mind.  If Sue hasn't gotten back to you, she will, and it's 
best to keep sending her emails than me.


For Ted:  I haven't gotten to the post office yet, but I will for sure 
next week.


If anything important comes up, I can be reached via email off list.  No 
problem.


Cheers, Christine






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OT:Sorry!

[Sandra Hermann]

I am not sure what happened to my Yahoo account. I have not been able to sign 
in for a few weeks now, Then I find out on facebook that I am sending weird 
messages to people.  Then I find out from my dad I sent him a Viagra 
advertisement. So I sent Yahoo an email, which they answered to my yahoo 
account which I could not sign in.  Finally, tonight I got back into my 
account.  I am sorry for the inconvenience I am sure this must have caused all 
of you.  I am not really sure what happened, I thought Mac's didn't get virus 
so they couldn't spread crap like that.  
Once again, I am very sorry
sweet dreams
jg
  

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Re: More on Sigma 24-60/2.8

[Boris Liberman]

On 7/31/2010 6:40 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

Seems to do a fine job.

I had two bum copies of the Tamron 28-75 f2.8 and bought the D AF 50
f2.8 instead.

Dave


Dave, were you trying to buy your Tamron brand new? I am thinking you 
were. I, OTOH, bought both of them (Tamron and Sigma) second hand having 
asked for sample photos, etc. This is what I would recommend to any one 
- either buy second hand with lots of sample shots or agree upfront with 
the shop that you are going to come and cherry pick.


Having had that unfortunately encounter with ever soft brand new FA 
50/1.4 taught me some lessons...


Boris

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Re: More on Sigma 24-60/2.8

[Boris Liberman]

On 7/31/2010 3:59 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Boris,
I especially like the last sample picture of the palm branch.
Very graphic with symetric beauty.
Regards,  Bob S.


Thanks, Bob. This Sigma (at list this very sample) seems like a capable 
tool...


Boris

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Re: Boris PESO 2010 #34 - It is full of squares

[Boris Liberman]

On 8/1/2010 12:47 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

Poor terminology on my part. I meant how you got a very close
composition, not that it had been cropped.  I'd assumed that it was full
frame.


Cheers

Brian


Sure, no prob :-).

Boris


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PESO - My Shocking Photograph of July

[Adam Montoya]

Hi all,

Finally had some lightning when I was not at work, so I could capture
some.  I think I got close to being hit after capturing this. When the
flash and the bang come together, it's time to get inside. Especially
when lugging around a tripod.


http://www.mountainfort.com/Photography/Uncategorized-2010/10922529_sBfdS#954212386_bxsuF-A-LB


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Re: electronic level (and an apparently-undocumented feature) in K7

[Rob Studdert]

On 01/08/2010, William Robb  wrote:

> Your bubble level could be off a little bit as well. I thought my K7 level
> was terrible based on a carpenters level. When I checked it with a better
> level it looked better as well.
> A better test is to see if it's level is to test it against the horizon of a
> large body of water, which is guaranteed to be level.

Simpler still, rotate the level 180 degrees relative to the bubble
offset and see if the offset shifts to the other side of the level.

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Re: PESO - Bride on the Run

[paul stenquist]

On Jul 31, 2010, at 11:10 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

> Would have preferred she be along, but of course that wasn't the case. You 
> did successfully captured her anxiety.
> 
Thanks for looking. Did you mean "alone?"
> Jack
> 
> --- On Sat, 7/31/10, paul stenquist  wrote:
> 
>> From: paul stenquist 
>> Subject: PESO - Bride on the Run
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 5:55 PM
>> In a park for the wedding party pics,
>> wearing a gown that must have cost 10K. And then it started
>> to rain.
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11358050
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Foul Mood & other whatnot

[Christine Aguila]

I've been in an utterly foul mood all day today because of a fall I took 
during last night's theater shoot.  There was no serious injury, but I still 
acutely feel last night's moment of humiliation as I write this.  This is 
the 2nd fall I've experienced while doing photography, the 1st being a 
stumble on some cracked sidewalk while out on a photowalk shortly before our 
holiday to San Diego this past June--gosh, I racked my knee on that one.


Accidents happen, I get that.  I'd like to do more professional photo ops 
for money, but if I don't get my balance, coordination, and weight back in 
line, my photographer's moniker is going to end up being *Miss Tumbleweed.* 
While it may surprise those who've met me recently, I once was fairly 
athletic--not a star athlete of any kind, mind you-- but I had solid 
hand-eye coordination, balance, strength, and fitness.  Well, that's all 
gone to pot lately, and this is a big problem because of the athleticism 
involved when doing photography, which I very much enjoy--and would enjoy 
even more if I wasn't so out of shape.


I need to change some habits--less time at the computer and much more 
physical activity of the calisthenics and exercise variety--not my favorite 
kind, but . . .  So, if I'm not around on list for a while, you'll know why.


Anyway, about the PDML Exhibition wrap up:  A few PDMLers have emailed me 
about not hearing back from Sue.  I've recently talked to her, and she 
admits to being behind sked, but as her original email states, she wants to 
close out shipping of prints etc by the end of August, so folks should keep 
that in mind.  If Sue hasn't gotten back to you, she will, and it's best to 
keep sending her emails than me.


For Ted:  I haven't gotten to the post office yet, but I will for sure next 
week.


If anything important comes up, I can be reached via email off list.  No 
problem.


Cheers, Christine






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Re: PESO - Bride on the Run

[Jack Davis]

Would have preferred she be along, but of course that wasn't the case. You did 
successfully captured her anxiety.

Jack

--- On Sat, 7/31/10, paul stenquist  wrote:

> From: paul stenquist 
> Subject: PESO - Bride on the Run
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 5:55 PM
> In a park for the wedding party pics,
> wearing a gown that must have cost 10K. And then it started
> to rain.
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11358050
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Re: peso - young lady

[Jack Davis]

Looks just fine to me and did from the beginning, Sasha. I very much like the 
'smooth' attractive feel of it.

Jack

--- On Sat, 7/31/10, Sasha Sobol  wrote:

> From: Sasha Sobol 
> Subject: Re: peso - young lady
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 7:25 PM
> thanks to everyone.
> I tried to add some sharpness to the eyes, not sure if it
> is better or not.
> 
> --S
> 
> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 5:55 AM, Christine  Aguila
> 
> wrote:
> > I agree with Tim--more specifically, I'd like to see
> the eyes a bit sharper,
> > but still a very nice portrait of a pretty young
> woman.  Nice work, Sasha.
> > Cheers, Christine
> >
> >
> > - Original Message - From: "Tim Øsleby"
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> >
> >
> >> There is a lot to like in this photo.
> >> A nice, relaxed subject, pleasing background, nice
> soft light.
> >> But i do have one nit: The eyes does not grab me.
> IMO they need a wee
> >> bit more punch.
> >> Play a bit with them, and you have my full
> attention.
> >>
> >> --
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> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>>
> >>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4825623180/lightbox/
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Re: peso - young lady

[Sasha Sobol]

thanks to everyone.
I tried to add some sharpness to the eyes, not sure if it is better or not.

--S

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 5:55 AM, Christine  Aguila
 wrote:
> I agree with Tim--more specifically, I'd like to see the eyes a bit sharper,
> but still a very nice portrait of a pretty young woman.  Nice work, Sasha.
> Cheers, Christine
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Tim Øsleby" 
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 4:46 PM
> Subject: Re: peso - young lady
>
>
>> There is a lot to like in this photo.
>> A nice, relaxed subject, pleasing background, nice soft light.
>> But i do have one nit: The eyes does not grab me. IMO they need a wee
>> bit more punch.
>> Play a bit with them, and you have my full attention.
>>
>> --
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>>
>> http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> 2010/7/25 Sasha Sobol :
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4825623180/lightbox/
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Re: FS: Program Plus, 50mm, 135mm, flash meter, domke bag

[Nick Wright]

Really, really want to sell this stuff.

Anyone interested in taking it all for $80 plus shipping?

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Nick Wright  wrote:
> I've got for sale a:
>
> Pentax Program Plus SLR. $25.
>
> Pentax M-50mm f/2. $20.
>
> Pentax M-135mm f/3.5 $40.
>
> Novatron FM02 flash meter. $20.
>
> Domke F-803 satchel-style camera bag. Navy, well-used but still in
> good shape. $25.
>
> Make me an offer!!
>
> Camera and lenses are in good working and cosmetic shape. Flash meter
> worked fine, but I haven't used it in about 10 years. Selling because
> there are now no local film developing labs (even WalMart took out
> their film lab last month). I'm just too lazy to do it myself, and not
> interested in shipping my films in the mail.
>
> Really want to sell the stuff. Make me an offer. Just tired of if
> taking up my very limited space.
>
> Shipping extra Paypal only. US only.
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Re: 1940s US photos

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Some great images there.

Dan

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> http://blogs.denverpost.com/captured/2010/07/26/captured-america-in-color-from-1939-1943/
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Re: Theater Shoot--White Balance Check

[paul stenquist]

No doubt that the tripod would have been an impediment here. Your frame is 
highly dependent on camera position, and a tripod gets in the way of that, 
particularly when you have to work fast. I'm sure your client will be very 
pleased.
Paul
On Jul 31, 2010, at 3:56 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

> Hi Everyone:  Not having much stage and theater experience, I was wondering 
> if those folks who do, would be willing to check & see if the white balance 
> is acceptable in the small gallery below.  Metadata--including white balance 
> and tint--is below each photo.  I just printed page 1 of the contact sheets 
> (in speed mode), and it prints just a hint more red than my monitor is 
> showing, so I thought I'd throw this out there for feedback.
> 
> http://www.caguila.com/caguila/hayfever/index.html
> 
> Cheers, Christine 
> 
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PESO - Bride on the Run

[paul stenquist]

In a park for the wedding party pics, wearing a gown that must have cost 10K. 
And then it started to rain.

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Re: Theater Shoot--White Balance Check

[Christine Aguila]

Thanks, Stan & everyone else.  The contact sheets have dried-down now for a 
few hours, and I had a look at them on my back porch in open shade, and they 
look less red than earlier, but I think I will decrease saturation just a 
tiny bit as suggested by Cotty and Stan.  The client will get a total of 64 
photos--I've already made my picks and cropped etc .  I can use the sync 
tool to do the minor decrease in saturation--it will go quick.  I just tried 
the eyedropper on a few and the result is too blue; I don't think the client 
will want it that blue.


Just a big thanks for this and all the earlier feedback.  Cotty, I really 
had your earlier advice in my noodle when shooting, so big thanks there. 
Much appreciated.  Ann, you were right about the actors.  Charles, I 
requested the light guy hang around for last nights  shoot (as you 
suggested) and got the ok from the director.  Then last night when I asked 
for the lights to be turned up a bit as we were about to begin, the set 
design guy threw a fit, but I was able to get them up a bit anyway.   Chris, 
I took notes and the director took notes--between the two of us we got good 
coverage of the play.


Amazingly, I never used the tripod.  I just couldn't seem to make it work so 
that I could work fast.  The director wanted the shoot done in an hour, and 
we were done in about 1 hour and 15 minutes.   I just had to hold her 
steady, focus, and concentrate.  I was absolutely soaked after the 
shoot--just drenched--mainly because I was so nervous--more about that under 
separate cover, as they say.  Thanks again, everyone, Big cheers, Christine






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From: "Stan Halpin" 

To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: Theater Shoot--White Balance Check



I pulled hayfever_109 into LR3.0 and fiddled with the sliders a bit.
What looks right to me on my laptop would be very subtly different:
temp = -7 from original
exposure = + .10 from original
saturation = - 2 from original

I was going by flesh-tone appearance more than anything else, with 
secondary attention to the overall feel of the scene.


At first I played with the tint as well, -5 to -10 seemed to help, but 
dropping the saturation just a touch seemed to obviate the need for the 
change in tint.


Bottom line: for my money you are pretty much spot on. There will always 
be variation in appearance according to the color of the light under which 
any prints are viewed; I am not sure that this sort of subtle manipulation 
is really called for. But to double check you might try viewing your 
contact sheet outside under daylight conditions as well as indoors under 
artificial lighting. If you still think they look too warm or too red, 
then apply the (minor) general changes I and others have suggested.


BTW, I think you pulled this off quite nicely.

stan

On Jul 31, 2010, at 2:56 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Hi Everyone:  Not having much stage and theater experience, I was 
wondering if those folks who do, would be willing to check & see if the 
white balance is acceptable in the small gallery below. 
Metadata--including white balance and tint--is below each photo.  I just 
printed page 1 of the contact sheets (in speed mode), and it prints just 
a hint more red than my monitor is showing, so I thought I'd throw this 
out there for feedback.


http://www.caguila.com/caguila/hayfever/index.html

Cheers, Christine


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Re: electronic level (and an apparently-undocumented feature) in K7

[Charles Robinson]

On Jul 31, 2010, at 19:02, William Robb wrote:
> 
> Your bubble level could be off a little bit as well. I thought my K7 level 
> was terrible based on a carpenters level. When I checked it with a better 
> level it looked better as well.
> A better test is to see if it's level is to test it against the horizon of a 
> large body of water, which is guaranteed to be level.
> 

Yeah, that's the first thing that got me suspicious.  "Hmm... looked level the 
way I HAD it but the K7 says 'level is THIS way'!".

I'll just go back to using the ol' eyeballs.  They're not too bad yet.

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RE: Theater Shoot--White Balance Check

[J.C. O'Connell]

I tried using color balance using the
color balance tool in CS. It needs much less
red and much more cyan in the mid tones.

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Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 7:43 PM
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Subject: RE: Theater Shoot--White Balance Check


> > Hi Everyone:  Not having much stage and theater experience, I was 
> > wondering if those folks who do, would be willing to check & see if 
> > the white balance is acceptable in the small gallery below. 
> > Metadata--including white balance and tint--is below each photo.  I 
> > just printed page 1 of the contact sheets (in speed mode), and it 
> > prints just a hint more red than my monitor is showing, so I thought 
> > I'd throw this out there for feedback.
> >
> > http://www.caguila.com/caguila/hayfever/index.html
> >
> > Cheers, Christine

that's a good set of photos. I would use the eye-dropper in LR to set the
white point and correct the colour balance that way.

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Re: electronic level (and an apparently-undocumented feature) in K7

[William Robb]

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Subject: electronic level (and an apparently-undocumented feature) in K7


It doesn't look like it can be calibrated/adjusted, so now I get to turn 
OFF the level display, or train my brain to always show the display "a 
half-bubble off level" when I want the camera to actually be level.


So... it was kinda neato to discover that feature, and kind of a bummer 
what it shows me.




Your bubble level could be off a little bit as well. I thought my K7 level 
was terrible based on a carpenters level. When I checked it with a better 
level it looked better as well.
A better test is to see if it's level is to test it against the horizon of a 
large body of water, which is guaranteed to be level.


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RE: Theater Shoot--White Balance Check

[Bob W]

> > Hi Everyone:  Not having much stage and theater experience, I was
> > wondering if those folks who do, would be willing to check & see if
> > the white balance is acceptable in the small gallery below.
> > Metadata--including white balance and tint--is below each photo.  I
> > just printed page 1 of the contact sheets (in speed mode), and it
> > prints just a hint more red than my monitor is showing, so I thought
> > I'd throw this out there for feedback.
> >
> > http://www.caguila.com/caguila/hayfever/index.html
> >
> > Cheers, Christine

that's a good set of photos. I would use the eye-dropper in LR to set the
white point and correct the colour balance that way.

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Re: Theater Shoot--White Balance Check

[Bob Sullivan]

Christine,
Nice work and a happy looking cast!
The color is a tiny bit warm, but appropriately theatrical.
You could tone it down or leave it as is.
I can't vouch for Stan's numbers, but his sentiment is right.
You pulled it off quite nicely.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Stan Halpin
 wrote:
> I pulled hayfever_109 into LR3.0 and fiddled with the sliders a bit.
> What looks right to me on my laptop would be very subtly different:
> temp = -7 from original
> exposure = + .10 from original
> saturation = - 2 from original
>
> I was going by flesh-tone appearance more than anything else, with secondary 
> attention to the overall feel of the scene.
>
> At first I played with the tint as well, -5 to -10 seemed to help, but 
> dropping the saturation just a touch seemed to obviate the need for the 
> change in tint.
>
> Bottom line: for my money you are pretty much spot on. There will always be 
> variation in appearance according to the color of the light under which any 
> prints are viewed; I am not sure that this sort of subtle manipulation is 
> really called for. But to double check you might try viewing your contact 
> sheet outside under daylight conditions as well as indoors under artificial 
> lighting. If you still think they look too warm or too red, then apply the 
> (minor) general changes I and others have suggested.
>
> BTW, I think you pulled this off quite nicely.
>
> stan
>
> On Jul 31, 2010, at 2:56 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:
>
>> Hi Everyone:  Not having much stage and theater experience, I was wondering 
>> if those folks who do, would be willing to check & see if the white balance 
>> is acceptable in the small gallery below.  Metadata--including white balance 
>> and tint--is below each photo.  I just printed page 1 of the contact sheets 
>> (in speed mode), and it prints just a hint more red than my monitor is 
>> showing, so I thought I'd throw this out there for feedback.
>>
>> http://www.caguila.com/caguila/hayfever/index.html
>>
>> Cheers, Christine
>>
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Re: electronic level (and an apparently-undocumented feature) in K7

[Charles Robinson]

On Jul 31, 2010, at 17:44, Adam Maas wrote:
> 
> It's a new feature with the 1.10 firmware and was documented in the
> release notes.
> 

Oh - the stuff I should have read before just going and installing the updates? 
 Ah!  Thanks.


> Note that just about every camera with the feature has calibration
> issues with it.

I'll live...  I suspect we all will (more or less).

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Re: PESO: First Photo

[Brian Walters]

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:28 -0500, "Stan Halpin"
 wrote:
> I have been sporadically adding items to my photoblog @
> http://smhalpin.posterous.com
> 
> In particular I would like to call your attention to this recent shot:
> 
> http://smhalpin.posterous.com/first-photo
> 
> There are several technical problems with the image, but I am sure this
> group will appreciate the content nevertheless.


I saw this one on the blog a couple of days ago.  Very appealing.  But
this one tops it I think, even if the photographer has a couple of years
more experience:

http://smhalpin.posterous.com/photo-lesson



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Re: electronic level (and an apparently-undocumented feature) in K7

[Adam Maas]

On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Charles Robinson  wrote:
> I noticed today that if I pushed "info" twice (or is it three times?) while 
> in shooting mode, the entire rear display switches to an electronic level, 
> complete with a sort of "artificial horizon" display.  Neato.
>
> Unfortunately, this made it VERY easy for me to set the camera on top of a 
> spirit level and visually confirm that my K7's level is actually off by about 
> half a bubble.  :-(
>
> It doesn't look like it can be calibrated/adjusted, so now I get to turn OFF 
> the level display, or train my brain to always show the display "a 
> half-bubble off level" when I want the camera to actually be level.
>
> So... it was kinda neato to discover that feature, and kind of a bummer what 
> it shows me.
>
>  -Charles
>

It's a new feature with the 1.10 firmware and was documented in the
release notes.

Note that just about every camera with the feature has calibration
issues with it.


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Re: small geso montrose harbor

[Brian Walters]

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 10:51 -0500, "Christine  Aguila"
 wrote:
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Brian Walters" 
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 12:30 AM
> Subject: Re: small geso montrose harbor
> 
> 
> > On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:47 -0500, "Christine  Aguila"
> >  wrote:
> >> Hi Everyone:  Just a bit of play with long exposures here.  This skyline
> >> view is looking south from Montrose Harbor.  Tried to save the 2nd shot
> >> with
> >> a playful rendering, which might not be to everyone's taste, but
> >> hey--have
> >> at it.  If you don't like it, feel free to say so.  Not a problem.
> >>
> >> http://www.caguila.com/caguila/montroseharbor/
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > I like colours in the first one but I agree with Jack that it might be
> > better as a panorama.  There just seems to be too much blank water in
> > the foreground despite the reflected light path.
> >
> > I wasn't sure about the second one but after several viewings I find
> > that I really like it.  The symmetrical composition and high key
> > rendering works well.  I might be tempted to crop it slightly at the
> > bottom.
> >
> > No. 3 also works well.  The bright colour of the shirt and the low
> > contrast background focuses attention to the foreground particularly
> > well.
> >
> > The last one is my least favoured.  I don't think the blurred shape on
> > the horizon helps.  It's more of a distraction.
> 
> 
> Yep the pano's a great suggestion.  You mean the blonde didn't do much
> for 
> you in the last one?  :-) 



My eyesight needs attention.  I thought that was a guy.



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Re: 1940s US photos

[Keith Whaley]

Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Sandy Harris wrote:


A link to these turned up elsewhere, seemed worth passing on:
http://blogs.denverpost.com/captured/2010/07/26/captured-america-in-color-from-1939-1943/ 




Wow, these are wonderful - on several levels - some personal for me.


Thanks for posting this link, Sandy

ann


I kept watching to see MY mug in there somewhere.

I didn’t realize 1940 was so far back then, and so ‘ancient’ looking!
Those were the same clothes I wore, but they seemed just fine, back then...
Hmmm. That WAS long ago, wasn’t it.

Thanks for posting. Brought back a lot of memories!

keith

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Re: Theater Shoot--White Balance Check

[Ann Sanfedele]

Christine Aguila wrote:

Hi Everyone:  Not having much stage and theater experience, I was 
wondering if those folks who do, would be willing to check & see if 
the white balance is acceptable in the small gallery below.  
Metadata--including white balance and tint--is below each photo.  I 
just printed page 1 of the contact sheets (in speed mode), and it 
prints just a hint more red than my monitor is showing, so I thought 
I'd throw this out there for feedback.


http://www.caguila.com/caguila/hayfever/index.html

Cheers, Christine




definitely too warm on mine...  but that should be an easy fix...  go 
for the skin tones, of course but you know that!


Looks like the lighting guy overdid the "surprise pink" a bit...

But from a "getting the shots" angle, they are spot on!  Nice work!

Some of the leaning to red may be intentional stage wise though - 
tungston lit interiors, etc... so you might not

want to do what would be a standard correction otherwise.


xo,
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Re: Theater Shoot--White Balance Check

[Stan Halpin]

I pulled hayfever_109 into LR3.0 and fiddled with the sliders a bit.
What looks right to me on my laptop would be very subtly different:
temp = -7 from original
exposure = + .10 from original
saturation = - 2 from original

I was going by flesh-tone appearance more than anything else, with secondary 
attention to the overall feel of the scene.

At first I played with the tint as well, -5 to -10 seemed to help, but dropping 
the saturation just a touch seemed to obviate the need for the change in tint.

Bottom line: for my money you are pretty much spot on. There will always be 
variation in appearance according to the color of the light under which any 
prints are viewed; I am not sure that this sort of subtle manipulation is 
really called for. But to double check you might try viewing your contact sheet 
outside under daylight conditions as well as indoors under artificial lighting. 
If you still think they look too warm or too red, then apply the (minor) 
general changes I and others have suggested.

BTW, I think you pulled this off quite nicely.

stan

On Jul 31, 2010, at 2:56 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

> Hi Everyone:  Not having much stage and theater experience, I was wondering 
> if those folks who do, would be willing to check & see if the white balance 
> is acceptable in the small gallery below.  Metadata--including white balance 
> and tint--is below each photo.  I just printed page 1 of the contact sheets 
> (in speed mode), and it prints just a hint more red than my monitor is 
> showing, so I thought I'd throw this out there for feedback.
> 
> http://www.caguila.com/caguila/hayfever/index.html
> 
> Cheers, Christine 
> 
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Re: Boris PESO 2010 #34 - It is full of squares

[Brian Walters]

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:38 +0300, "Boris Liberman" 
wrote:
> On 7/31/2010 3:29 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
> > Yes it certainly is full of squares
> >
> > I like the close crop here and, of course, the reflections.  Well seen
> > and executed.
> 
> Thanks, Brian. The only thing I have to mention is that this is the full 
> frame, no cropping whatsoever.
> 



Poor terminology on my part. I meant how you got a very close
composition, not that it had been cropped.  I'd assumed that it was full
frame.


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Re: k10d help

[Doug Franklin]

On 2010-07-31 13:34, Dario Bonazza wrote:


This time
he tried shaking the camera, then shaking it more energetically...
nothing happens and the shutter is still stuck. So at the end I cannot


Pack it up like you're going to ship it to Pentax.  Take it to the front 
porch.  Throw it to the sidewalk.  That's probably more or less what the 
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Re: k10d help

[Luka Knezevic-Strika]

thx a lot for the info. gives some hope that i don't need to buy a
camera now. shaking doesn't have any effect yet, but hopefully,
persistence will pay off

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Re: Theater Shoot--White Balance Check

[Cotty]

On 31/7/10, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Hi Everyone:  Not having much stage and theater experience, I was wondering
>if those folks who do, would be willing to check & see if the white balance
>is acceptable in the small gallery below.  Metadata--including white balance
>and tint--is below each photo.  I just printed page 1 of the contact sheets
>(in speed mode), and it prints just a hint more red than my monitor is
>showing, so I thought I'd throw this out there for feedback.
>
>http://www.caguila.com/caguila/hayfever/index.html

You might try reducing the saturation a tad, I tend to do that with
incandescent lighting. Great job BTW - very impressive set - well done
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Re: Interesting observation deleting files from CF cards

[Cotty]

On 31/7/10, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

>When i save files to be printed at our local Shoppers Dug Mart kiosk,
>i save them on an old 128mg CFII card. On my PC, if i have any files i
>want gone, i just select and hit delete.
>The other day i transferred some photos from the iBook and dragged the
>files on the CF card to the trash. When i loaded the card at Shoppers,
>those old files were still on the card along with my new files for
>printing.
>
>Interesting.

If you drag files from removable media (CF cards, external hard drives
etc) to the trash and then eject, the next time you plug that removable
media back into the computer, the trashed items reappear in the trash.

Drag them to the trash and then empty the trash and this won't happen.



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Re: electronic level (and an apparently-undocumented feature) in K7

[P N Stenquist]

I'm really liking the fact that with 1.10 live view now allows  
autofocus with the shutter release half press. Works like a charm.

Paul
On Jul 31, 2010, at 4:17 PM, Thibouille wrote:


Yep, that's v1.10 firmware ;)

2010/7/31 Charles Robinson :
I noticed today that if I pushed "info" twice (or is it three  
times?) while in shooting mode, the entire rear display switches to  
an electronic level, complete with a sort of "artificial horizon"  
display.  Neato.


Unfortunately, this made it VERY easy for me to set the camera on  
top of a spirit level and visually confirm that my K7's level is  
actually off by about half a bubble.  :-(


It doesn't look like it can be calibrated/adjusted, so now I get to  
turn OFF the level display, or train my brain to always show the  
display "a half-bubble off level" when I want the camera to  
actually be level.


So... it was kinda neato to discover that feature, and kind of a  
bummer what it shows me.


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Re: Theater Shoot--White Balance Check

[P N Stenquist]

Very nice work, BTW. They will be pleased.
Paul
On Jul 31, 2010, at 3:56 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Hi Everyone:  Not having much stage and theater experience, I was  
wondering if those folks who do, would be willing to check & see if  
the white balance is acceptable in the small gallery below.   
Metadata--including white balance and tint--is below each photo.  I  
just printed page 1 of the contact sheets (in speed mode), and it  
prints just a hint more red than my monitor is showing, so I thought  
I'd throw this out there for feedback.


http://www.caguila.com/caguila/hayfever/index.html

Cheers, Christine


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Re: Theater Shoot--White Balance Check

[P N Stenquist]

I like them as presented. The light is warm, but that's appropriate.

If you want standard daylight color temp, you can take a eyedropper  
reading of the grey dress of the one woman and use that color temp for  
all.


But again, I like them with the warm light you're showing here.
Paul


On Jul 31, 2010, at 3:56 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Hi Everyone:  Not having much stage and theater experience, I was  
wondering if those folks who do, would be willing to check & see if  
the white balance is acceptable in the small gallery below.   
Metadata--including white balance and tint--is below each photo.  I  
just printed page 1 of the contact sheets (in speed mode), and it  
prints just a hint more red than my monitor is showing, so I thought  
I'd throw this out there for feedback.


http://www.caguila.com/caguila/hayfever/index.html

Cheers, Christine


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RE: PESO: 1st Extension Tube Pic

[Jerry in Arizona]

Fully manual, with preset.  I had the camera set on aperture priority, the lens 
on 5.6, pressed the green button and focused using the in and out method.  
Handheld.  ISO 400

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do your ext tube(s) have active lens stop down
or is the lens fully manual with regard to
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Re: Theater Shoot--White Balance Check

[Paul Sorenson]

They look somewhat red on my calibrated monitor in both Firefox and PSE 
6.  I hit a copy or hayfever_78 in PSE 6 with Enhance>Auto Color Correct 
and came up with this...


http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/quickpage/quickpage2.htm

This *may* be a little blue, but the guy's t-shirt looks pretty close to 
white to me.  Hope this helps a little, even though I didn't make the 
changes in LR3.


I'll take this down in 24 hours unless you tell me sooner...

-p


On 7/31/2010 2:56 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:
Hi Everyone:  Not having much stage and theater experience, I was 
wondering if those folks who do, would be willing to check & see if 
the white balance is acceptable in the small gallery below.  
Metadata--including white balance and tint--is below each photo.  I 
just printed page 1 of the contact sheets (in speed mode), and it 
prints just a hint more red than my monitor is showing, so I thought 
I'd throw this out there for feedback.


http://www.caguila.com/caguila/hayfever/index.html

Cheers, Christine




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Re: electronic level (and an apparently-undocumented feature) in K7

[Thibouille]

Yep, that's v1.10 firmware ;)

2010/7/31 Charles Robinson :
> I noticed today that if I pushed "info" twice (or is it three times?) while 
> in shooting mode, the entire rear display switches to an electronic level, 
> complete with a sort of "artificial horizon" display.  Neato.
>
> Unfortunately, this made it VERY easy for me to set the camera on top of a 
> spirit level and visually confirm that my K7's level is actually off by about 
> half a bubble.  :-(
>
> It doesn't look like it can be calibrated/adjusted, so now I get to turn OFF 
> the level display, or train my brain to always show the display "a 
> half-bubble off level" when I want the camera to actually be level.
>
> So... it was kinda neato to discover that feature, and kind of a bummer what 
> it shows me.
>
>  -Charles
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Re: Theater Shoot--White Balance Check

[Charles Robinson]

On Jul 31, 2010, at 14:56, Christine Aguila wrote:

> Hi Everyone:  Not having much stage and theater experience, I was wondering 
> if those folks who do, would be willing to check & see if the white balance 
> is acceptable in the small gallery below.  Metadata--including white balance 
> and tint--is below each photo.  I just printed page 1 of the contact sheets 
> (in speed mode), and it prints just a hint more red than my monitor is 
> showing, so I thought I'd throw this out there for feedback.
> 
> http://www.caguila.com/caguila/hayfever/index.html
> 

It looks a bit yellow, but not unacceptably so.  I'd call it "warm enough that 
it gives the impression of having been shot under artificial lighting" which 
can actually be a good thing.

Some of the shots appear not-quite-level  but this is a WB check not a 
level check, right?

When I pulled 123_2 into LR and clicked the WB eyedropper on the tux of the man 
in the middle of the couch, though, it dropped the temp down by 25 points and 
the tint by 19 and I would have to say that it looks better to my eye when it 
is a bit cooler and greener.  Maybe even into the low 20's towards the green 
from where that image is currently.  IMO and all that.

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Re: electronic level (and an apparently-undocumented feature) in K7

[eckinator]

2010/7/31 Charles Robinson :
>
> I guess I'd be more upset if that's what I'd bought it for.
>
> It is so so so SO much better than the K10D in so many ways, that I'm still 
> just delighted to have it in my hands!
>
> And what kills me is how much more I enjoyed the K10D over the ist-DS!  Man, 
> things sure have improved.

Now /that/ is a glass half full in a nutshell =)
Ecke

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Re: electronic level (and an apparently-undocumented feature) in K7

[Charles Robinson]

On Jul 31, 2010, at 14:43, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:

> Charles Robinson  wrote:
> 
>> So... it was kinda neato to discover that feature, and kind of a bummer what
>> it shows me.
> 
> The K-7 in a nutshell. 
> 

I guess I'd be more upset if that's what I'd bought it for.

It is so so so SO much better than the K10D in so many ways, that I'm still 
just delighted to have it in my hands!

And what kills me is how much more I enjoyed the K10D over the ist-DS!  Man, 
things sure have improved.

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Theater Shoot--White Balance Check

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Everyone:  Not having much stage and theater experience, I was wondering 
if those folks who do, would be willing to check & see if the white balance 
is acceptable in the small gallery below.  Metadata--including white balance 
and tint--is below each photo.  I just printed page 1 of the contact sheets 
(in speed mode), and it prints just a hint more red than my monitor is 
showing, so I thought I'd throw this out there for feedback.


http://www.caguila.com/caguila/hayfever/index.html

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RE: Old lens back in use

[J.C. O'Connell]

Nice pic but im wondering why does the kid
have his pants on backwards??

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From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P.
J. Alling
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 3:35 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Old lens back in use


On 7/31/2010 5:02 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote:
>> Bob W wrote:
>> Sent: 31 July 2010 09:45
>> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
>> Subject: RE: Old lens back in use
>>
>>  
>>> Just thought it would be worth sharing this purely for interest.
>>>
>>> Pentax-M 135/3.5 on my wife's Panasonic G2. Airbus 380 taken at the 
>>> Farnborough airshow last weekend. 
>>> http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Farnborough2010/slides/_1000263.html


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Re: electronic level (and an apparently-undocumented feature) in K7

[Ralf R. Radermacher]

Charles Robinson  wrote:

> So... it was kinda neato to discover that feature, and kind of a bummer what
> it shows me.

The K-7 in a nutshell. 

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Re: Old lens back in use

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On 7/31/2010 5:02 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote:

Bob W wrote:
Sent: 31 July 2010 09:45
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
Subject: RE: Old lens back in use

 

Just thought it would be worth sharing this purely for interest.

Pentax-M 135/3.5 on my wife's Panasonic G2. Airbus 380 taken at the
Farnborough airshow last weekend.
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Farnborough2010/slides/_1000263.html

Works well if a teeny bit soft - don't know whether that's the lens,
   

my
 

inability to focus manually or a bit of shake / movement. Of course,
   

on
the
 

Micro 4/3 system it's equivalent to 270mm. I'll get round to doing
   

some
 

controlled tests one day.

   

Airbuses (Airbi?) always look as if they're about to fall out of the
sky.

 

Karin got a nice bit of foreground interest in this one during the
   

Red
Arrows'
 

display:
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Farnborough2010/slides/_1000248.html

That was taken with the Panasonic 14-42 lens.
   

that's easily the best shot of the set, I'm sorry to have to tell you.
I was
going to suggest you put it into next year's book, but I see there's no
Pentax involvement :o(

 

The idea was for Karin to have free rein for the day without me interfering
- after all it is her camera and not a toy for me! I just wanted to try out
a couple of Pentax lenses for real hence the last 3 pictures. Unfortunately
the battery ran out just after the Airbus did its thing and we'd managed to
leave the freshly charged spare in the charger at home. Guess who got the
blame?

Chris
   

Well obviously it's always your fault.

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electronic level (and an apparently-undocumented feature) in K7

[Charles Robinson]

I noticed today that if I pushed "info" twice (or is it three times?) while in 
shooting mode, the entire rear display switches to an electronic level, 
complete with a sort of "artificial horizon" display.  Neato.

Unfortunately, this made it VERY easy for me to set the camera on top of a 
spirit level and visually confirm that my K7's level is actually off by about 
half a bubble.  :-(

It doesn't look like it can be calibrated/adjusted, so now I get to turn OFF 
the level display, or train my brain to always show the display "a half-bubble 
off level" when I want the camera to actually be level.

So... it was kinda neato to discover that feature, and kind of a bummer what it 
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Re: Interesting observation deleting files from CF cards

[Mat Maessen]

On 7/31/10, David J Brooks  wrote:
>  The other day i transferred some photos from the iBook and dragged the
>  files on the CF card to the trash. When i loaded the card at Shoppers,
>  those old files were still on the card along with my new files for
>  printing.

Did you eject the card from the mac, or did you just pop it out of the
reader? It's possible it didn't write the changes to the card if you
just popped it out, especially if you hadn't emptied the trash.

-Mat

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Re: PESO: 1st Extension Tube Pic

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Central focus works here along with the purple of the softer pedals.
Something about the pedals and composition can give me the illusion
that the pedals are in focus.  Verry nice...
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Pretty "kind" of flower, Jerry! Love the colors and center focus leaving only 
> slightly soft pedals.
>
> Jack
>
> --- On Sat, 7/31/10, Jerry in Arizona  wrote:
>
>> From: Jerry in Arizona 
>> Subject: PESO: 1st Extension Tube Pic
>> To: pdml@pdml.net
>> Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 9:57 AM
>> Got new extension tubes for the K20D
>> and needed to try them out.  Never used
>> them before.  Partner picked a bouquet last night so I
>> took a display out on the
>> patio to try out the tube.  The sky gods were again
>> cooperative and the high
>> clouds made the sky a giant light box and no shadows.
>> Some were good, some not
>> so good as I fumbled around but I do like this one.  I may
>> even find out what
>> flower it is.
>>
>> http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/PurpleFlower_5904A2_PESO.jpg
>>
>>
>> K20D, #1 extension tube, f1.9 Auto Chinon @ f5.6
>>
>> Comments and recommendations welcome.
>>
>> Jerry in Phoenix
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Interesting observation deleting files from CF cards

[David J Brooks]

When i save files to be printed at our local Shoppers Dug Mart kiosk,
i save them on an old 128mg CFII card. On my PC, if i have any files i
want gone, i just select and hit delete.
The other day i transferred some photos from the iBook and dragged the
files on the CF card to the trash. When i loaded the card at Shoppers,
those old files were still on the card along with my new files for
printing.

Interesting.

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RE: PESO: 1st Extension Tube Pic

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do your ext tube(s) have active lens stop down
or is the lens fully manual with regard to
stopping it down before making the exposure?

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Jerry in Arizona
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 12:57 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESO: 1st Extension Tube Pic


Got new extension tubes for the K20D and needed to try them out.  Never used

them before.  Partner picked a bouquet last night so I took a display out on
the 
patio to try out the tube.  The sky gods were again cooperative and the high

clouds made the sky a giant light box and no shadows.  Some were good, some
not 
so good as I fumbled around but I do like this one.  I may even find out
what 
flower it is.

http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/PurpleFlower_5904A2_PE
SO.jpg


K20D, #1 extension tube, f1.9 Auto Chinon @ f5.6

Comments and recommendations welcome.

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Re: k10d help

[Dario Bonazza]

Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote:


slight update - mirror back to normal position after a 'slight' tap on
the camera.. sound it makes still the same, like a very quiet motor
struggling to do something. the shutter doesn't come off nor does the
mirror - focusing works fine
also, if i go to sensor cleaning mode, the mirror doesn't flap  up either


Not yet sure if it has to do with either mirror action or shutter, as they 
are interlaced in some way.


Dario



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Re: k10d help

[Dario Bonazza]

Hi Luka,

A friend of mine is experiencing the same behaviour, but it's more 
complicated than you think and not yet solved.
It happened once a few months ago, when its K10d shutter count was around 
70,000. Apparently, the shutter died and the camera behaved like yours. 
After trying what he could do (like extracting the battery, waiting some 
time, re-inserting the battery and such) he resolved to send the camera to 
Pentax service, convinced the shutter was broken and had to be replaced. 
When the camera arrived there... ta-dah! everything was working perfectly 
like nothing has happened. Then the technician supposed that "a coil 
somewhere in a motor was not contacting properly" (those were the vague 
words he reported me) "and then the vibration during transport moved the 
coil enough for making contact again. It could happen once in a million 
times, and it could repeat again soon or never again". Those were more 
comments by the Pentax technician, as reported by my friend. The his K10d 
worked perfectly for 3-4 months again and then, a few days ago, the problem 
showed up again. This time he tried shaking the camera, then shaking it more 
energetically... nothing happens and the shutter is still stuck. So at the 
end I cannot help you so much, as the problem has not been solved yet. I 
believe my friend has just shipped the camera agan to Pentax service in 
Italy.


Cheers,

Dario

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From: "Luka Knezevic-Strika" 

To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 6:35 PM
Subject: k10d help


it seems my k10d died on me today. but perhaps some of you can help 
diagnose it.

so, after a normal shot, the mirror just stayed up (the curtain closed).
the camera works normal otherwise (albeit slow) - you can review the
photos and set things in menus

you cannot shoot obviously, and you here the sound from the camera
that sounds a little as a focusing sound from a 16-50 2.8 lens crossed
with the regular sensor cleaning at power-up routine (which also works
normally)

any ideas? i'm guessing that the shutter died (it is well over 50k
anyway), but i'm hoping it could be something with the mirror, that
could be fixed more easily, perhaps by a non-pentax service (we don't
have one in serbia)

thanks for any ideas,
luka

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Re: k10d help

[Luka Knezevic-Strika]

slight update - mirror back to normal position after a 'slight' tap on
the camera.. sound it makes still the same, like a very quiet motor
struggling to do something. the shutter doesn't come off nor does the
mirror - focusing works fine
also, if i go to sensor cleaning mode, the mirror doesn't flap  up either

On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Luka Knezevic-Strika
 wrote:
> it seems my k10d died on me today. but perhaps some of you can help diagnose 
> it.
> so, after a normal shot, the mirror just stayed up (the curtain closed).
> the camera works normal otherwise (albeit slow) - you can review the
> photos and set things in menus
>
> you cannot shoot obviously, and you here the sound from the camera
> that sounds a little as a focusing sound from a 16-50 2.8 lens crossed
> with the regular sensor cleaning at power-up routine (which also works
> normally)
>
> any ideas? i'm guessing that the shutter died (it is well over 50k
> anyway), but i'm hoping it could be something with the mirror, that
> could be fixed more easily, perhaps by a non-pentax service (we don't
> have one in serbia)
>
> thanks for any ideas,
> luka
>

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Re: PESO: 1st Extension Tube Pic

[Jack Davis]

Pretty "kind" of flower, Jerry! Love the colors and center focus leaving only 
slightly soft pedals.

Jack

--- On Sat, 7/31/10, Jerry in Arizona  wrote:

> From: Jerry in Arizona 
> Subject: PESO: 1st Extension Tube Pic
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 9:57 AM
> Got new extension tubes for the K20D
> and needed to try them out.  Never used 
> them before.  Partner picked a bouquet last night so I
> took a display out on the 
> patio to try out the tube.  The sky gods were again
> cooperative and the high 
> clouds made the sky a giant light box and no shadows. 
> Some were good, some not 
> so good as I fumbled around but I do like this one.  I may
> even find out what 
> flower it is.
> 
> http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/PurpleFlower_5904A2_PESO.jpg
> 
> 
> K20D, #1 extension tube, f1.9 Auto Chinon @ f5.6
> 
> Comments and recommendations welcome.
> 
> Jerry in Phoenix
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Re: PESO: First Photo

[Bob Sullivan]

Love the Pentax content and a nice picture of the nephew.
Regards,  Bob S.

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> I have been sporadically adding items to my photoblog @ 
> http://smhalpin.posterous.com
>
> In particular I would like to call your attention to this recent shot:
>
> http://smhalpin.posterous.com/first-photo
>
> There are several technical problems with the image, but I am sure this group 
> will appreciate the content nevertheless.
>
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PESO: 1st Extension Tube Pic

[Jerry in Arizona]

Got new extension tubes for the K20D and needed to try them out.  Never used 
them before.  Partner picked a bouquet last night so I took a display out on 
the 
patio to try out the tube.  The sky gods were again cooperative and the high 
clouds made the sky a giant light box and no shadows.  Some were good, some not 
so good as I fumbled around but I do like this one.  I may even find out what 
flower it is.

http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/PurpleFlower_5904A2_PESO.jpg


K20D, #1 extension tube, f1.9 Auto Chinon @ f5.6

Comments and recommendations welcome.

Jerry in Phoenix

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Re: LR3 change

[mike wilson]

Bob W wrote:

"Your machine is too weak" has served me well in IT for nearly 30 years.


Mark!

In a belated sort of way.

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Re: PESO - We do not exist

[frank theriault]

On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 1:17 AM, Brian Walters  wrote:

> Ah, but do you only exist within your own consciousness and is
> everything else an illusion?

I know I'm here and everything that I perceive ~seems~ real enough to
me that I live my life accordingly and it all works just fine thank
you very much.

Beer helps considerably.

Whether you are a mere chimera or illusion is your problem, not mine.

> Does the PDML even exist?..

I don't think so.

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Re: PESO - Sunny Meadow

[P. J. Alling]

On 7/31/2010 3:32 AM, David Mann wrote:

On Jul 31, 2010, at 6:02 AM, frank theriault wrote:

   

I like the M200 not so much because it's light, but because I'm finding
out that in many situations a prime is so much faster than a zoom -
not faster in largest aperture but faster to use.  I hate pointing at
something that needs to be taken ~right now~ only to find that it's
the wrong focal length.  With a prime, I know what I have - if it
won't work, I don't bother to point.  I find I actually lose fewer
photos that way.
 

I don't have any SLR zooms at the moment.  I've only ever owned one, and that's 
because it was $10.  At the moment I would *love* a couple of nice f/2.8 zooms, 
especially an 80-200 f/2.8, but my money tree is out of season.  I find primes 
tend to get in the way when doing sports photography as good vantage points can 
be difficult to get and changing lenses is far too time-consuming.

Cheers,
Dave
   


You really need a camera body for each lens...

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Re: PESO - We do not exist

[P. J. Alling]

On 7/31/2010 1:17 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:17 -0400, "frank theriault"
  wrote:

   

A bit of a circular argument, I think.

I'm far more interested in how many angels can dance on the head of a
pin than whether I exist or not (a fact that seems quite self-evident
from where I sit).
 


Ah, but do you only exist within your own consciousness and is
everything else an illusion?

Does the PDML even exist?..



   

Fun photo, well seen, well captured!
 



Thank.  It's one that I took a few years ago so, if nothing else, I'm
fairly sure the sign no longer exists.

   


There seems to be a message here...


Cheers

Brian

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On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Brian Walters
wrote:
 

G'day all

A bit of urban philosophy on a grotty and grimy wall - Hunter St,
Newcastle.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/IMGP8892peso.html


(*istDS with 16-45 mm DA zoom.)


The image is a bit small to read the text so, for those into
existentialism, here it is:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/IMGP8892part.jpg
   
 
   

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Re: Boris PESO 2010 #34 - It is full of squares

[Boris Liberman]

On 7/31/2010 3:29 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

Yes it certainly is full of squares

I like the close crop here and, of course, the reflections.  Well seen
and executed.


Thanks, Brian. The only thing I have to mention is that this is the full 
frame, no cropping whatsoever.


Boris

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k10d help

[Luka Knezevic-Strika]

it seems my k10d died on me today. but perhaps some of you can help diagnose it.
so, after a normal shot, the mirror just stayed up (the curtain closed).
the camera works normal otherwise (albeit slow) - you can review the
photos and set things in menus

you cannot shoot obviously, and you here the sound from the camera
that sounds a little as a focusing sound from a 16-50 2.8 lens crossed
with the regular sensor cleaning at power-up routine (which also works
normally)

any ideas? i'm guessing that the shutter died (it is well over 50k
anyway), but i'm hoping it could be something with the mirror, that
could be fixed more easily, perhaps by a non-pentax service (we don't
have one in serbia)

thanks for any ideas,
luka

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Re: small geso montrose harbor

[paul stenquist]

I like the first shot a lot. Beautiful skyline pic. The others suffer from bad 
light. Not much you can do about that, except go back and shoot when the light 
is right. That would be about 6AM at Montrose Harbor:-).
Paul


On Jul 31, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

> Hi Jack:  Yep, panorama is an excellent suggestion--might go back to try it. 
> #3 is a father & a little girl.  I waited for her to look at me up over her 
> father's hip , but she didn't oblige.  No prob on 2 &4.  Cheers, Christine
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Jack Davis" 
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 10:12 AM
> Subject: Re: small geso montrose harbor
> 
> 
> #1 is about as well done as possible what with the lack of either sky or 
> foreground detail. A panorama might have been another choice.(?)
> #3 is interesting.  I'm not sure..is that a couple enjoying the scenery?
> The low contrast and style of both 2 and 4 don't really grab me.
> 
> Jack
> 
> 
> --- On Fri, 7/30/10, Christine Aguila  wrote:
> 
>> From: Christine Aguila 
>> Subject: small geso montrose harbor
>> To: pdml@pdml.net
>> Date: Friday, July 30, 2010, 7:47 AM
>> Hi Everyone: Just a bit of play
>> with long exposures here. This skyline view is looking
>> south from Montrose Harbor. Tried to save the 2nd shot
>> with a playful rendering, which might not be to everyone's
>> taste, but hey--have at it. If you don't like it, feel
>> free to say so. Not a problem.
> 
> 
>> 
>> http://www.caguila.com/caguila/montroseharbor/
>> 
>> comments welcome
>> Cheers, Christine
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Re: HCB Exhibition

[frank theriault]

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>>
>> Great report, and yes, it's amazing how our tastes and perceptions as to
> what
>> makes a print good have changed over the years.  I've only seen one of his
> in
>> person, printed by Gassmann (or one of his minions) and it was much lower
>> contrast than we expect by today's standards.
>> Still, as Bob points out, lots of detail.in that one (Sur la Rue
> Mouffetard or
>> "the boy with the bottles" was the particular print).
>>
>
> That print can be yours for about $20,000.
>  994&sid=>
>
> I remember going in the early 1980s to the print room at the Photographers'
> Gallery in London and looking through their portfolios of unframed prints,
> including many of HCB's. They told me that I could have some of the
> better-known pictures for about £1,000.00 each. Not having £1,000.00 at the
> time, I reluctantly declined. If I'd had that kind of money at the time
> there aren't many better ways I could have spent it.
>
> The rue Mouffetard itself has changed beyond recognition, but still makes an
> enjoyable and photogenic visit - Hemingway territory, among many others.

When I saw the print at a local exhibit of Magnum photographers it was
going for only $8000 Cdn.  Everything else (including Arnold, Erwitt,
Capa - D-day prints not less - was going for about $2000-$4000).  This
was about 5 years ago.  I guess it would have been a good investment.

One thing that amazed me (and you don't get a sense of it in the small
web version that you linked to) is that the boy with the bottles is
~not~ at all sharp.  He should have had his AF on...

;-)

cheers,
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Re: 1940s US photos

[Christine Aguila]

Really interesting.  Thanks for posting.  Cheers, Christine


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Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 5:04 AM
Subject: 1940s US photos



A link to these turned up elsewhere, seemed worth passing on:
http://blogs.denverpost.com/captured/2010/07/26/captured-america-in-color-from-1939-1943/

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Re: Old lens back in use

[Bruce Dayton]

I really like Karin's shot.  Not your typical airshow shot but works very well.
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"Chris Mitchell"  wrote:

>Just thought it would be worth sharing this purely for interest.
>
>Pentax-M 135/3.5 on my wife's Panasonic G2. Airbus 380 taken at the
>Farnborough airshow last weekend.
>http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Farnborough2010/slides/_1000263.html
>
>Works well if a teeny bit soft - don't know whether that's the lens, my
>inability to focus manually or a bit of shake / movement. Of course, on the
>Micro 4/3 system it's equivalent to 270mm. I'll get round to doing some
>controlled tests one day.
>
>Karin got a nice bit of foreground interest in this one during the Red
>Arrows' display:
>http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Farnborough2010/slides/_1000248.html
>
>That was taken with the Panasonic 14-42 lens.
>
>Chris
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Re: StefSPORT

[Christine Aguila]

Way to Go, Stef!  Pics here look good!  Enjoy watching the progress of young 
talent--and he's got talent!  Must be fun for you, Cotty, to have your son 
with you on shoots, giving him helpful tips here and there.  You know, the 
father & son thing.  Also, a few days ago, I caught that prom video, you had 
posted on your video site.  Stef's really quite handsome, isn't he?  Anyway, 
congrats on a great start to the portfolio.  Cheers, Christine



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Subject: StefSPORT



I know some of you like to follow my lad's progress, and to keep it on
topic he was weaned on an *ist DS and still uses it as 2nd camera. Ahead
of studying photography at A level in September, he's started on a
course of building a sports portfolio and I managed to get him into an
English football game last week, Reading v Wolverhampton. Here he is
looking the part:




Only there for the first half (45 mins) in an uneventful game, here are
some pics. ISO 800 on a 4 megapixel 1D with 70-200 f/4 (non-IS)
handheld, artificial lighting.



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Re: First Photo

[Christine Aguila]

Very cute, Stan.  Start'em young.  Say high to Meg for me!  Cheers, 
Christine



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Subject: PESO: First Photo


I have been sporadically adding items to my photoblog @ 
http://smhalpin.posterous.com


In particular I would like to call your attention to this recent shot:

http://smhalpin.posterous.com/first-photo

There are several technical problems with the image, but I am sure this 
group will appreciate the content nevertheless.


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Re: small geso montrose harbor

[Christine Aguila]

- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Walters" 

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Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 12:30 AM
Subject: Re: small geso montrose harbor



On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:47 -0500, "Christine  Aguila"
 wrote:

Hi Everyone:  Just a bit of play with long exposures here.  This skyline
view is looking south from Montrose Harbor.  Tried to save the 2nd shot
with
a playful rendering, which might not be to everyone's taste, but
hey--have
at it.  If you don't like it, feel free to say so.  Not a problem.

http://www.caguila.com/caguila/montroseharbor/





I like colours in the first one but I agree with Jack that it might be
better as a panorama.  There just seems to be too much blank water in
the foreground despite the reflected light path.

I wasn't sure about the second one but after several viewings I find
that I really like it.  The symmetrical composition and high key
rendering works well.  I might be tempted to crop it slightly at the
bottom.

No. 3 also works well.  The bright colour of the shirt and the low
contrast background focuses attention to the foreground particularly
well.

The last one is my least favoured.  I don't think the blurred shape on
the horizon helps.  It's more of a distraction.



Yep the pano's a great suggestion.  You mean the blonde didn't do much for 
you in the last one?  :-)  Big cheers, Christine 




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Re: small geso montrose harbor

[Christine Aguila]

Thanks, Dan.  I got there a bit too late, light wasn't that great; it had 
been a little nicer earlier.  Cheers, Christine



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Christina:

I like them all, especially the one with the guy in a yellow shirt in
the foreground.  He gives the image perspective and originality.

Dan

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:


On Jul 30, 2010, at 7:47 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Hi Everyone: Just a bit of play with long exposures here. This skyline 
view is looking south from Montrose Harbor. Tried to save the 2nd shot 
with a playful rendering, which might not be to everyone's taste, but 
hey--have at it. If you don't like it, feel free to say so. Not a 
problem.


http://www.caguila.com/caguila/montroseharbor/


I like the long exposures, the "over exposing" of the second one works 
very well.



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Re: small geso montrose harbor

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Thanks, Larry, I am going back to try a pano some day.  Cheers, Christine


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On Jul 30, 2010, at 7:47 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Hi Everyone:  Just a bit of play with long exposures here.  This skyline 
view is looking south from Montrose Harbor.  Tried to save the 2nd shot 
with a playful rendering, which might not be to everyone's taste, but 
hey--have at it.  If you don't like it, feel free to say so.  Not a 
problem.


http://www.caguila.com/caguila/montroseharbor/


I like the long exposures, the "over exposing" of the second one works 
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Re: small geso montrose harbor

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Jack:  Yep, panorama is an excellent suggestion--might go back to try it. 
#3 is a father & a little girl.  I waited for her to look at me up over her 
father's hip , but she didn't oblige.  No prob on 2 &4.  Cheers, Christine



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#1 is about as well done as possible what with the lack of either sky or 
foreground detail. A panorama might have been another choice.(?)

#3 is interesting.  I'm not sure..is that a couple enjoying the scenery?
The low contrast and style of both 2 and 4 don't really grab me.

Jack


--- On Fri, 7/30/10, Christine Aguila  wrote:


From: Christine Aguila 
Subject: small geso montrose harbor
To: pdml@pdml.net
Date: Friday, July 30, 2010, 7:47 AM
Hi Everyone: Just a bit of play
with long exposures here. This skyline view is looking
south from Montrose Harbor. Tried to save the 2nd shot
with a playful rendering, which might not be to everyone's
taste, but hey--have at it. If you don't like it, feel
free to say so. Not a problem.





http://www.caguila.com/caguila/montroseharbor/

comments welcome
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Re: More on Sigma 24-60/2.8

[David J Brooks]

Seems to do a fine job.

I had two bum copies of the Tamron 28-75 f2.8 and bought the D AF 50
f2.8 instead.

Dave

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> In my blog:
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/07/sigma-ex-24-6028-dg-mini-review-and.html
>
> It is proving to be a good lens.
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Re: PESO: First Photo

[Ann Sanfedele]

Stan Halpin wrote:


I have been sporadically adding items to my photoblog @ 
http://smhalpin.posterous.com

In particular I would like to call your attention to this recent shot:

http://smhalpin.posterous.com/first-photo

There are several technical problems with the image, but I am sure this group 
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stan
 


Content is key for me in any photo - this is lovely, Stan

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Re: 1940s US photos

[Ann Sanfedele]

Sandy Harris wrote:


A link to these turned up elsewhere, seemed worth passing on:
http://blogs.denverpost.com/captured/2010/07/26/captured-america-in-color-from-1939-1943/

 


Wow, these are wonderful - on several levels - some personal for me.


Thanks for posting this link, Sandy

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Re: PESO: First Photo

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On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Stan Halpin
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> In particular I would like to call your attention to this recent shot:
>
> http://smhalpin.posterous.com/first-photo
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> There are several technical problems with the image, but I am sure this group 
> will appreciate the content nevertheless.

At least some one likes their liveview.:-)

Dave
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Re: StefSPORT

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> spent more time eyeing up some of
> the other snappers and their 3 and 400 2.8 lenses. Gear envy at 16,

Well, its cheaper than bail.:-)

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Re: StefSPORT

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> topic he was weaned on an *ist DS and still uses it as 2nd camera. Ahead
> of studying photography at A level in September, he's started on a
> course of building a sports portfolio and I managed to get him into an
> English football game last week, Reading v Wolverhampton. Here he is
> looking the part:
>
> 

What, the Nikon guy's wouldn't let him sit with them.:-)

>
>
> Only there for the first half (45 mins) in an uneventful game, here are
> some pics. ISO 800 on a 4 megapixel 1D with 70-200 f/4 (non-IS)
> handheld, artificial lighting.
>
> 

It's not my favorite game by any means, but he sure has some nice
action shots there. Pretty clean for 800 iso.

Dave
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Re: PESO: First Photo

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Precious! Also, drool proof. =)

Jack

--- On Sat, 7/31/10, Stan Halpin  wrote:

> From: Stan Halpin 
> Subject: PESO: First Photo
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 7:28 AM
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> to my photoblog @ http://smhalpin.posterous.com
> 
> In particular I would like to call your attention to this
> recent shot:
> 
> http://smhalpin.posterous.com/first-photo
> 
> There are several technical problems with the image, but I
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Re: StefSPORT

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He has a good eye. It helps that soccer involves a lot of action, but you have 
to be able to anticipate it, capture it, and then select the right shots while 
editing. Now if he can figure a way to get action shots at more sedentary 
sports like cricket or chess, he will truly demonstrate that he is mastering 
the craft.

stan


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> I know some of you like to follow my lad's progress, and to keep it on
> topic he was weaned on an *ist DS and still uses it as 2nd camera. Ahead
> of studying photography at A level in September, he's started on a
> course of building a sports portfolio and I managed to get him into an
> English football game last week, Reading v Wolverhampton. Here he is
> looking the part:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Only there for the first half (45 mins) in an uneventful game, here are
> some pics. ISO 800 on a 4 megapixel 1D with 70-200 f/4 (non-IS)
> handheld, artificial lighting.
> 
> 
> 
> --
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> 
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>  Cotty
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PESO: First Photo

[Stan Halpin]

I have been sporadically adding items to my photoblog @ 
http://smhalpin.posterous.com

In particular I would like to call your attention to this recent shot:

http://smhalpin.posterous.com/first-photo

There are several technical problems with the image, but I am sure this group 
will appreciate the content nevertheless.

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Re: 1940s US photos

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On 2010-07-31 6:04, Sandy Harris wrote:

A link to these turned up elsewhere, seemed worth passing on:
http://blogs.denverpost.com/captured/2010/07/26/captured-america-in-color-from-1939-1943/


Looks like someone was following my parents' families around with a 
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Re: Old lens back in use

[Stan Halpin]

Karin's shot is fantastic, but your Airbus shot is nothing to scoff at either.
I think Karin should check into selling her photo to the airshow managers for 
their use in a brochure for next year's show.

stan

On Jul 31, 2010, at 12:59 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote:

> Just thought it would be worth sharing this purely for interest.
> 
> Pentax-M 135/3.5 on my wife's Panasonic G2. Airbus 380 taken at the
> Farnborough airshow last weekend.
> http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Farnborough2010/slides/_1000263.html
> 
> Works well if a teeny bit soft - don't know whether that's the lens, my
> inability to focus manually or a bit of shake / movement. Of course, on the
> Micro 4/3 system it's equivalent to 270mm. I'll get round to doing some
> controlled tests one day.
> 
> Karin got a nice bit of foreground interest in this one during the Red
> Arrows' display:
> http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Farnborough2010/slides/_1000248.html
> 
> That was taken with the Panasonic 14-42 lens.
> 
> Chris
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Re: StefSPORT

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On 2010-07-31 5:35, Cotty wrote:


Gear envy at 16,
whatever next.


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Re: HCB Exhibition

[Stan Halpin]

Thanks for the review and recommendation Christine. I'll be passing by Chicago 
twice between now and 10/3/2010, will see if I can work out the logistical 
details for a sidetrip to the museum.

stan

On Jul 30, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

> Hi Everyone:
> 
> Well, I've seen 300 HCB photographs, and I purchased the paperback edition of 
> the exhibition catalogue.  Wow, what an experience. If you're in the Midwest 
> area, I'd definitely recommend flying in or driving in to see it. 
> Overwhelming majority of the prints were 7ish by 11ish in size, and grouped 
> thematically--early work, photo essays in LIFE magazine (China & Russia), 
> beauty, portraits, and later work--just an amazing collection of subject 
> material.
> 
> What surprised me was the low contrast in a good many of the prints, and I 
> don't know if that is because of age of the print or intent.  The photographs 
> in the exhibition catalogue have stronger contrast.  I had this same surprise 
> when I saw Dorthea Lange prints (Migrant Mother etc) at the photo museum at 
> Columbia College. in Chicago.
> 
> Because of the small print size, the photographs, to my eye, didn't *pop* off 
> the wall as I expected, though I think that's because some of the images loom 
> large in my mind's eye.  Soft focus and grain very noticeable through out the 
> collection.
> 
> All in all we had a nice time.  No pictures of note, just a document of the 
> entrance way.  Security was tight and no pictures allowed in exhibit area. 
> The show runs until 10/3/2010.
> 
> Cheers, Christine
> 
> 
> http://www.caguila.com/caguila/hcb/
> 
> http://www.artic.edu/aic/exhibitions/exhibition/cartierbressonmodern 
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Re: 1940s US photos

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Thank you Sandy! There are some great images there.

stan

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Re: 1940s US photos

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 On 7/31/2010 6:04 AM, Sandy Harris wrote:

A link to these turned up elsewhere, seemed worth passing on:
http://blogs.denverpost.com/captured/2010/07/26/captured-america-in-color-from-1939-1943/


Thank you, Sandy.

I grew up about 5-10 miles from locations shown in pictures 4 and 5.   
Picked spuds and hauled loads to starch factories -- although not the 
one in the picture.


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Re: Old lens back in use

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Really like the second shot. 
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Just thought it would be worth sharing this purely for interest.

Pentax-M 135/3.5 on my wife's Panasonic G2. Airbus 380 taken at the
Farnborough airshow last weekend.
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Farnborough2010/slides/_1000263.html

Works well if a teeny bit soft - don't know whether that's the lens, my
inability to focus manually or a bit of shake / movement. Of course, on the
Micro 4/3 system it's equivalent to 270mm. I'll get round to doing some
controlled tests one day.

Karin got a nice bit of foreground interest in this one during the Red
Arrows' display:
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Farnborough2010/slides/_1000248.html

That was taken with the Panasonic 14-42 lens.

Chris




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Re: StefSPORT

[Rick Womer]

--- On Sat, 7/31/10, Cotty  wrote:

> On 31/7/10, Bob W, discombobulated,
> unleashed:
> 
> >excellent stuff! Looks as though he has a real future
> ahead of him.
> 
> Tell me about it - **I** would have been proud to shoot
> those. Typical
> modesty, he say's 'they're okay' but spent more time eyeing
> up some of
> the other snappers and their 3 and 400 2.8 lenses. Gear
> envy at 16,
> whatever next.
> 

Modesty maybe; or maybe disappointment that the actual images don't match the 
ones in his mind.  Getting those to converge is what practice is all about.  
Perfectionism and discouragement are the pitfalls.

These are very good.  He's got a good eye and good timing.

Rick


  


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Re: Monsoon Sky Redux

[Rick Womer]

Excellent!  A big improvement.  The amber color of the sky gives an ominous air 
to the pic.

Rick

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> From: Jerry in Arizona 
> Subject: Monsoon Sky Redux
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 11:33 PM
> A few days I submitted a pic of an
> Arizona monsoon sky and got some nice 
> comments, but it was suggested that showing some ground
> would improve the 
> image.  Well the sky gods cooperated again this evening
> and I took a few with a 
> wider lens and included some ground clutter.  The building
> on the lower left is 
> the same one as in the previous pic.  Thus I submit this
> humble effort for your 
> review and consideration.
> 
> 
> http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/MonsoonSky3_PESO_I5811.jpg
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