RE: Another doorway

[Bob W]

> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> John Francis
> > >
> > > http://donspix.posterous.com/#!/
> > >
> >
> > nice shot. Some people won't like the subject matter - doors have
> their
> > knockers - but I like it.
> 
> Was that a "Young Frankenstein" reference?
> 

I was thinking of Blue Peter



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RE: GESO (27): Cathedral Square

[Bob W]

it must be a weird feeling to be in the position of rebuilding an entire
city in that way.

> I don't know whether the land under the buildings is privately owned in
> the CBD.  It might not matter as investors are getting cold feet due to
> the restrictions being placed on the rebuild (eg height restrictions).
> So it might be possible for the City Council to buy up lots of land on
> the cheap and make good public use of it.
> 
> Personally I think the best approach is a dictatorial one.  And my vote
> for dictator-in-chief goes to Kevin McCloud.  But that'll never happen.
> Maybe at least he could do an episode of Grand Designs on a grand scale
> during the next decade or so.

Be careful what you wish for.

Historically, the dictatorial approach has rarely been successful. Paris may
be the one exception. Otherwise you have to think of Albert Speer and his
dreadful fantasies, or Brasilia, East German tower blocks, or the dreadful
stuff we put up here after the war. What is important is to have controls
which limit the craziness of developers.

Kevin McCloud made an interesting doco about Dharavi, the big slum in Mumbai
and how well that works as a place for people. I've been on the fringes of
Dharavi, and seen other 3rd world shanty towns, and the always make me think
of the way old European cities must have been at some point in the past. You
can still see the medieval (or earlier) shape of many of our cities. They
arose out of the hugger-mugger of organic rather than planned growth,
tempered by frequent disasters and rebuilds. After each rebuild the
multitude of property owners and other vested interests ensure that street
plans remain the same, even if buildings change. That is what has happened
each time London has been rebuilt and is part of the reason why it has
charm, and why you can still walk the streets that the Romans, and Chaucer
and Shakespeare, and Dickens walked, with the same names.

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Re: PESO - The Company Car

[Larry Colen]

On 12/7/2011 8:59 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011, at 08:00 AM, frank theriault wrote:

Norbert was thrilled to find out that his promotion to Vice President
of Corporate Sales included a company car and an executive assistant,
Rex:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/12/company-car.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.


Very cute, though I think it would benefit a lot by cropping in a lot 
tighter on the mini mini.




Looks like my first car - although it wasn't purple and it wasn't a
convertible, but it did have a clown driving it...


Under the hood it looks a lot like my first car. An Austin America (aka 
Austin 1300). I'd love to see a modern incarnation of the original mini, 
not the bloated sesquimini, but 1500 lbs, and a modern 1300 cc motor 
that'd get twice the power of the original, with better gas mileage.


Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a market for fun to drive cars 
that get 40MPG, so it would never get built.



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Re: PESO -- Mike Johnston Repellent

[Larry Colen]

On 12/7/2011 9:12 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20johnstonrepellant.html

Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax M 85mm f2.0

As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.


I don't know if my eyes are still wonky, but it looks out of focus to 
me, almost like it's focused on the feet and the flea collar rather than 
the face.






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Re: PAW--Week 48--Mom turns 72

[Chris Mitchell]

On 4 December 2011 23:27, Christine Aguila  wrote:
> Hi Everyone:  I took a total of 36 pictures this week--and all taken 
> yesterday and today.  Yikes!!!  Work is insane, so time was limited.  I was 
> actually at work today for about 6 hours--and will continue to work in the 
> late evenings all next week.  Both portraits here have mostly sentimental 
> value.  Bummer about the green glass in the lower right hand corner, but my 
> mom's expression does reveal her personality, and I think the photo shows how 
> gracefully she's aging.  We had a really fun family party with lots of story 
> telling around the dinner table.  That's a pretty standard portrait of 
> Darrel--the story might be more interesting than the photo lol,--but I like 
> the portrait anyway, but then I'm biased :-)  cheers, Christine

Lovely portraits Christine. So both of your parents have worn very
well then! How do they do it?

Cheers, Chris

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Re: PESO x2: Dancers and Audience

[Chris Mitchell]

On 5 December 2011 18:43, Charles Robinson wrote:
> Some friends of mine threw a show in St. Paul on Friday night.
>
> I got in for free in exchange for photographing the festivities - a fair 
> exchange.
>
> One favorite image from the gallery is this one:
>
> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/new_standards_holiday_show/content/IMGP5948_large.html
>
> The other one was taken while up in one of the highest box seats.  I just 
> aimed the camera back into the audience and took a 15-second exposure of "the 
> house".  At about 13 seconds, suddenly the spotlight came up and I think it 
> really ties the image together.
>
> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/new_standards_holiday_show/content/IMGP5912_large.html
>
> Feel free to comment, if you see something you like (or would do 
> differently).  I won't take a lack of comments personally :-)
>
>  -Charles
Some good gig shots Charles. The audience one is outstanding.

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Re: OT: Web Gallery Questions

[Brian Walters]

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011, at 07:55 PM, Mark C wrote:
> I'm working on re-doing my website this winter, hopefully completely 
> nuking the old site and replacing it with something new. (I plan to 
> leave the blog in place, but will probably update the skin.) It's been a 
> while since I re-did things. Any comments on the following would be 
> appreciated:
> 
> 1. Web Photo Gallery Software: For my last web update I used Photoshops 
> web gallery tool (now migrated to bridge) and lots of global search and 
> replace commands in Dreamweaver to customize and tweak the galleries. 
> Wild and scary stuff. I'd like to use a more simple approach this time - 
> any suggestions regarding web photo gallery tools? I don't mind paying 
> for something good, so I'm not just looking are freeware. I see that 
> Mark Robers still lists Web Album Generator on this website, it looks 
> like the PUG uses JAblum. I was thinking of going with a fancy flash 
> gallery but at chatting with someone recently I was told  that flash was 
> so passe' and besides, iPhones can't read it. Yee... what to do...
> 
> 2. Image size: My current standard image size is 625 pixels wide or 500 
> pixels high. That was pretty aggressive when I first started the website 
> in 1997... rather small by today's standards. I'm thinking of something 
> like 800 pixels wide for the standard view and click on that for a 1000 
> pixel wide, in it's own screen, view. I looked at my user stats and 
> found that the top two screen resolutions were 1280 x 800 and 1024 x 768 
> - I think that the dimensions I'm planning should work well with that.
> 
> Any thoughts would be appreciated -



Yes- I'm using JAlbum for the PUG (as did Scott).  I wasn't entirely
happy with the Chameleon template because I wanted to be able to make
the images 'clickable' so that images larger than the browser window
could be shown full size in a separate window.  This involved designing
a new template, which looks a bit like Chameleon but there's no
Chameleon code present.  It works the way I want but I haven't yet
worked out how to make multi-page albums with it.

I'm not sure that JAlbum is the ideal tool for a 'professional' web site
but there are plenty of templates to play around with and many are
highly configurable.  One that I like is Matrix, although I'm not keen
on its default settings.  If you're prepared to tweak the options, you
can get a very attractive looking gallery.

For my own site I designed the interface from scratch.  I'm reasonably
happy with it except that it's a bugger to update and the images are
smaller than I'd use if I was designing it now (700 x 467 for landscape
format and 400 x 600 for portrait format).  When I get time I'll try to
look at something simpler, maybe based around the Matrix template.

The PUG uses a max of 800 pixels on either side but, after considerable
discussion on this when I took over, images are displayed at a max
display height of around 536 pixels so that they can be viewed without
having to vertically scroll the image (that 'display height' can be set
to any desired value within the template settings). Clicking the image
produces the full size version.  I think this works well - a lot of
people don't like having to scroll images - they like to see the whole
image, even if it means viewing at a smaller size.  800 pixels seems a
reasonable maximum size.


Cheers

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Re: PESO -- Mike Johnston Repellent

[P. J. Alling]

On 12/8/2011 12:48 AM, David Mann wrote:

On Dec 8, 2011, at 6:12 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20johnstonrepellant.html

Where's the poorly spelled funny caption?


You only get those when I'm trying for my Dave Brooks spelling 
certification.



For some reason I think he (or she) needs a bow tie.


He doesn't approve.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20bowtie.html


Dave





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Re: PESO: The Fog of Morning

[Brian Walters]

On Tue, Dec 6, 2011, at 10:36 AM, Darren Addy wrote:
> We've all heard of the Fog of War, but nothing makes you want to be
> extremely late for work like a below 0F morning with freezing fog as
> the sun tries to burn through it in the golden hour, during the drive
> to your place of gainful employment.
> 
> Working for a living is vastly over-rated, I say.
> 


Excellent.  Nice balance to the composition.


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Re: PESO 2011 - 144 Overhead Lunch - GDG

[Brian Walters]

On Tue, Dec 6, 2011, at 12:40 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> Back to London ...
> 
>   http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6464824609/in/photostream/lightbox/
> or
>   http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6464824609/in/photostream/
> 
> Thanks for looking! Comments appreciated.
> 



I like this - you've turned what appears to be a bit of mundane
architecture into an attractive image, although the vignetting is just a
tad too much for my taste.



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Re: PESO -- Mike Johnston Repellent

[David Mann]

On Dec 8, 2011, at 6:12 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20johnstonrepellant.html

Where's the poorly spelled funny caption?

For some reason I think he (or she) needs a bow tie.

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Re: OT: Web Gallery Questions

[David Mann]

On Dec 8, 2011, at 1:55 PM, Mark C wrote:

> 1. Web Photo Gallery Software: For my last web update I used Photoshops web 
> gallery tool (now migrated to bridge) and lots of global search and replace 
> commands in Dreamweaver to customize and tweak the galleries. Wild and scary 
> stuff. I'd like to use a more simple approach this time - any suggestions 
> regarding web photo gallery tools? I don't mind paying for something good, so 
> I'm not just looking are freeware. I see that Mark Robers still lists Web 
> Album Generator on this website, it looks like the PUG uses JAblum. I was 
> thinking of going with a fancy flash gallery but at chatting with someone 
> recently I was told  that flash was so passe' and besides, iPhones can't 
> read it. Yee... what to do...

I've taken to using Jalbum because it's quick and convenient.  I'm not 100% 
satisfied with its templates but meh, it's good enough and I can't be bothered 
rolling my own.

> 
> 2. Image size: My current standard image size is 625 pixels wide or 500 
> pixels high. That was pretty aggressive when I first started the website in 
> 1997... rather small by today's standards. I'm thinking of something like 800 
> pixels wide for the standard view and click on that for a 1000 pixel wide, in 
> it's own screen, view. I looked at my user stats and found that the top two 
> screen resolutions were 1280 x 800 and 1024 x 768 - I think that the 
> dimensions I'm planning should work well with that.

I'm using 700 on the longest axis at the moment but that may be a little small 
for landscape orientation.

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Re: GESO (15): West Coast

[Brian Walters]

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011, at 08:42 PM, David Mann wrote:
> These pics are from a trip to the West Coast that we took on November
> 19-22.  The Mrs was going over to do some work on the Monday so we made a
> weekend of it.
> 
> The day we went over was the first anniversary of the Pike River mine
> disaster and they were unveiling a new memorial in central Greymouth.  We
> didn't make it over in time to attend the service but we went to see it
> before heading home, and I've included a photo in the gallery.
> 
> http://www.multi.net.nz/west-coast/
> 



Thanks, an interesting gallery.  That viaduct is an impressive piece of
engineering.



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Re: GESO (27): Cathedral Square

[David Mann]

On Dec 8, 2011, at 5:02 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

> Dave,
> 
> Here are a couple of photos from a happier time in Cathedral Square.
> 
> https://picasaweb.google.com/115638976374047590388/NewZealand02#4992787337964748818
> 
> https://picasaweb.google.com/115638976374047590388/NewZealand02#4992787344433676306
> 
> It was a magnificent place and city.  I hope it returns soon.

Thanks for those pics, Bob.  It seems such a distant memory already.

Cheers,
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Re: GESO (27): Cathedral Square

[David Mann]

On Dec 8, 2011, at 3:54 AM, Charles Robinson wrote:

> Here's where "live view" can be helpful.  I can't remember which model you're 
> using, though, so maybe that wasn't an option?

K10D.  I don't think it has live view.

> That was very interesting, but also a bit depressing.  You're going to end up 
> with very different-looking city when all this is done.  Thanks for sharing!

I'm both excited and a little worried about the rebuild.  Excited because we'll 
have so many new open spaces to make use of.  I'm worried because we could end 
up with a whole lot of cheap fast square boxes being erected.  I'm happy to be 
rid of a number of eyesores but when I thought about it yesterday, some of 
those eyesores would have been very nice buildings if they'd just had a good 
restoration job.

I don't know whether the land under the buildings is privately owned in the 
CBD.  It might not matter as investors are getting cold feet due to the 
restrictions being placed on the rebuild (eg height restrictions).  So it might 
be possible for the City Council to buy up lots of land on the cheap and make 
good public use of it.

Personally I think the best approach is a dictatorial one.  And my vote for 
dictator-in-chief goes to Kevin McCloud.  But that'll never happen.  Maybe at 
least he could do an episode of Grand Designs on a grand scale during the next 
decade or so.

Cheers,
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Re: GESO (27): Cathedral Square

[Brian Walters]

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011, at 10:39 PM, David Mann wrote:
> I wouldn't normally post a gallery this size but this one's a bit of a
> special case for me.
> 
> The authorities have opened up a walkway along Colombo St from Cashel
> Mall to Cathedral Square.  This is still within the cordoned-off red zone
> in the CBD and I was surprised to see them suddenly announce this out of
> the blue a few weeks ago.
> 
> They are limiting the number of people in the area at any one time, and
> there are signs up giving warnings that it is not 100% safe in there. 
> They tell you to carry ID on your person (ie not in a bag) so if a large
> aftershock hits and you're crushed by falling debris it's much easier to
> formally identify your body.  Sounds a bit morbid but one must be
> practical in the circumstances.
> 
> They are also limiting it to weekends only and they have people
> patrolling the other side of the fence to make sure nobody goes further
> than they should.  The fences are fairly restrictive and we were limited
> to quite a small area in the centre of the square.
> 
> Anyway, we went in last Sunday to have a look.  It's only a small part of
> the red zone but Cathedral Square is the centre of our city and the
> Cathedral itself is our iconic landmark.  So I think it's important to a
> lot of people to have this opportunity to get in and see it for real
> after being locked out for 9 months.
> 
> Taking photos was a bit of a struggle because I had to stretch to reach
> over the wire fences and still see the viewfinder.  Those people with
> small point & shoot cameras were easily able to poke their little lenses
> through the wire fence :)
> 
> It was quite moving being in there and seeing it all up close.  I've seen
> so many photos showing the state of various buildings but it just doesn't
> compare to seeing it in person.  As such I will probably go on one of the
> bus tours to see more of the red zone.
> 
> I've tried to annotate the photos with as much info about the fate of the
> various buildings as I can remember.
> 
> And, at long last, the link :)
> http://www.multi.net.nz/cbd-dec-2011/



Very sad but thanks for posting.

About a week or so ago I was watching bits of the NZ Golf Open which was
held in Christchurch.  At one point they switched to an interview with
Bob Parker filmed from Cathedral Square.  He sounded positive about the
future of the city but it sounds like it's going to be a long haul.



Cheers

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Re: Peso: Moondiculous

[P. J. Alling]

That's pretty good, but I do detect scan lines in the blackness of 
space, at least my laptop seems to show them.


On 12/7/2011 10:07 PM, William Robb wrote:

The Q on the 600/5.6.
I couldn't find my radio remote, so it goes.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/moondiculous.html




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Re: OT: The Beauty of Pollination

[Brian Walters]

On Tue, Dec 6, 2011, at 10:33 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> In Slow Motion Video
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHkq1edcbk4&feature=player_embedded#!
> 


Wonderful.  Thanks for posting.

I found the original of this on TED.com.  It includes an introduction by
the film maker:

http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/louie_schwartzberg_the_hidden_beauty_of_pollination.html



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PESO -- Mike Johnston Repellent

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http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20johnstonrepellant.html

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Re: Sanyo XX Battery Powered by eneloop, 2500mAh - Best of, bothworlds or a gimmick?

[Peter Loveday]

Well, just going by the math ...

The 1500mAh Eneloops give 1500 charges X 360 flashes per charge = 540,000 
flashes
The 2500mAh Eneloops give 500 charges X 460 flashes per charge = 230,000 
flashes


2 x 230,000 = 460,000

So it looks like the new high power ones have less than half the usable 
life of the old ones.


Price-wise, they cost 67% more than the regular eneloops ($24.99 vs 
$14.99), but only give about 43% of the value.


Regular Eneloops are 2000mAh.

But yeah, unless you really need it (ie don't want to have to change 
batteries in the middle of a wedding...), then I'd stick with the regular 
ones.


Plus, you can get them in pretty glitter colours :)

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Re: PESO - The Company Car

[Brian Walters]

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011, at 08:00 AM, frank theriault wrote:
> Norbert was thrilled to find out that his promotion to Vice President
> of Corporate Sales included a company car and an executive assistant,
> Rex:
> 
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/12/company-car.html
> 
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.



Looks like my first car - although it wasn't purple and it wasn't a
convertible, but it did have a clown driving it...

Good fun photo.



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Re: Another doorway

[Brian Walters]

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011, at 04:23 PM, Don Guthrie wrote:
> Another Door to Nowhere
> 
> The store fronts are clean and inviting but the rear doors are unsigned 
> and utilitarian. Would you dare enter here?
> C&C always useful.
> 
> http://donspix.posterous.com/#!/
> 


I like that - nicely decrepit.  Needs to be seen at full size to
appreciate the texture in the wall.


Cheers

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Re: Sanyo XX Battery Powered by eneloop, 2500mAh - Best of, both worlds or a gimmick?

[John Sessoms]

From: Larry Colen

On 12/7/2011 5:35 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:


Hello, dear Battery Gurus!

I just came across this seemingly new product:
Sanyo XX Battery Powered by eneloop, 2500mAh.

These are claimed to be low-self-discharge batteries with
high-capacity (2500 mAh).
http://us.sanyo.com/Battery-Products/XX-AA-4-Pack

Has anybody tried them yet? Are they noteworthy or just a gimmick?


Those look very interesting.  My hybrio batteries, which were the best
of my hybrids seem to be dying.  The larger capacity of the new eneloops
looks very interesting.  Please get a set and tell us how well they work.

I did notice that they said only 500 recharges rather than 1500, so that
might be one of the tradeoffs.



Well, just going by the math ...

The 1500mAh Eneloops give 1500 charges X 360 flashes per charge = 
540,000 flashes
The 2500mAh Eneloops give 500 charges X 460 flashes per charge = 230,000 
flashes


2 x 230,000 = 460,000

So it looks like the new high power ones have less than half the usable 
life of the old ones.


Price-wise, they cost 67% more than the regular eneloops ($24.99 vs 
$14.99), but only give about 43% of the value.


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Re: Peso: Moondiculous

[William Robb]

On 07/12/2011 10:03 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Was a T/C attached to the 600?
Nice enlarged(?) image, Bill.

Just the 600. I had the camera set to 16:9, and I cropped it 
horizontally down to 2:3, so there is a bit of cropping. I have a 
teleconverter for the 600, I can't recall if it is the 1.4x
 or the 2x though. I would want a remote release before I used it with 
this set up though. That is getting into a pretty extreme telephoto.


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Re: Peso: Moondiculous

[Larry Colen]

On 12/7/2011 7:28 PM, William Robb wrote:

On 07/12/2011 9:11 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Filling the frame huh. Never seen that before!


I'm actually surprised it didn't magnify more. It's fun though.


I think that I estimated that on APS 1800mm will fill the sensor (in the 
short direction) with the moon. That'd be about 2400mm on 24x36, or 
350mm on the Q.  So that looks about right to me.



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Re: Peso: Moondiculous

[Jack Davis]

Was a T/C attached to the 600?
Nice enlarged(?) image, Bill.

Jack
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The Q on the 600/5.6.
I couldn't find my radio remote, so it goes.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/moondiculous.html

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Re: Peso: Moondiculous

[Paul Stenquist]

Fun stuff. Darn good quality too. 
Paul
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> The Q on the 600/5.6.
> I couldn't find my radio remote, so it goes.
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Re: Peso: Moondiculous

[William Robb]

On 07/12/2011 9:11 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Filling the frame huh.  Never seen that before!


I'm actually surprised it didn't magnify more. It's fun though.
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Re: Peso: Moondiculous

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On 07/12/2011 9:18 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

That is very impressive.

Much, much sharper than any shot that I've ever gotten of the moon.

That's one heck of a show off photo for the Q.

Mind if I share this link and the picture of your setup? I've got
friends who would appreciate it.


Thanks Larry. Share away.
I'll add a little technical. The lens was stopped down to f/16, ISO 125, 
1/100 second.
2 second delay. The lens was mounted to a Wimberley head on a Feisol CF 
tripod.
I couldn't find my release, I suspect I could have gotten better 
sharpness wit it, especially since the camera has no moving parts.
As is, at 100% it isn't the best, but shrunk to web sized, and carefully 
massaged, it isn't too bad.

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Re: Peso: Moondiculous

[Larry Colen]

That is very impressive.

Much, much sharper than any shot that I've ever gotten of the moon.

That's one heck of a show off photo for the Q.

Mind if I share this link and the picture of your setup?  I've got 
friends who would appreciate it.


On 12/7/2011 7:07 PM, William Robb wrote:

The Q on the 600/5.6.
I couldn't find my radio remote, so it goes.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/moondiculous.html



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Re: PESO: It's too early in the winter to be doing this

[William Robb]

On 07/12/2011 1:17 AM, Brian Walters wrote:


Where do I get this reputation for being contentious?




Ahem

http://www.pdml.net/pipermail/pdml_pdml.net/2006-December/040628.html

(the internet never forgets)



OK, other than that?
I don't think I even owned a pair of boots at that time.

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Re: Peso: Moondiculous

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Filling the frame huh.  Never seen that before!
Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: PESO - The Company Car

[Doug Franklin]

On 2011-12-07 18:00, David J Brooks wrote:

But, plenty of room for the other 'clowns' he has to work with
Dave

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 8:00 AM, frank theriault
  wrote:

Norbert was thrilled to find out that his promotion to Vice President
of Corporate Sales included a company car and an executive assistant,
Rex:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/12/company-car.html


I'd be tempted to pay a company to let me have a "company car" like 
that. :-)



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Re: Unusual effect and PESO - What do we have for dinner tonight?

[William Robb]

On 07/12/2011 4:00 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:



Some people eat blue cheese, some - blue birds, and some others - blue meet.
:-)


Spoo, the other blue meat.

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Peso: Moondiculous

[William Robb]

The Q on the 600/5.6.
I couldn't find my radio remote, so it goes.

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Re: Sanyo XX Battery Powered by eneloop, 2500mAh - Best of both worlds or a gimmick?

[Larry Colen]

On 12/7/2011 5:35 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:



Hello, dear Battery Gurus!

I just came across this seemingly new product:
Sanyo XX Battery Powered by eneloop, 2500mAh.

These are claimed to be low-self-discharge batteries with
high-capacity (2500 mAh).
http://us.sanyo.com/Battery-Products/XX-AA-4-Pack

Has anybody tried them yet? Are they noteworthy or just a gimmick?



Those look very interesting.  My hybrio batteries, which were the best 
of my hybrids seem to be dying.  The larger capacity of the new eneloops 
looks very interesting.  Please get a set and tell us how well they work.


I did notice that they said only 500 recharges rather than 1500, so that 
might be one of the tradeoffs.




Thank you,

Igor




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Sanyo XX Battery Powered by eneloop, 2500mAh - Best of both worlds or a gimmick?

[Igor Roshchin]

Hello, dear Battery Gurus!

I just came across this seemingly new product:
Sanyo XX Battery Powered by eneloop, 2500mAh.

These are claimed to be low-self-discharge batteries with 
high-capacity (2500 mAh).
http://us.sanyo.com/Battery-Products/XX-AA-4-Pack

Has anybody tried them yet? Are they noteworthy or just a gimmick?

Thank you,

Igor


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Re: OT: Web Gallery Questions

[David Parsons]

1. SmugMug may be a good option for you.  There are many templates
available for customizing your site, and you can get into the down and
dirty details of CSS and javascript if you like (there is no bare
metal access to the page code, so you have to do things in certain
ways.  The nice thing about SM is that they have a simplified version
for mobile that has no flash (even if your main site does).  There are
many people at the forums at dgrin.com (SM's official forum) that are
helpful and know how to customize very well.

2. One thing to think about is that even if someone is viewing on a
1280 wide monitor, they may not keep their browser windows
full-screen.  You may want to think about either a site that scales to
window size or that has padding for when the window is expanded.

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 7:55 PM, Mark C  wrote:
> I'm working on re-doing my website this winter, hopefully completely nuking
> the old site and replacing it with something new. (I plan to leave the blog
> in place, but will probably update the skin.) It's been a while since I
> re-did things. Any comments on the following would be appreciated:
>
> 1. Web Photo Gallery Software: For my last web update I used Photoshops web
> gallery tool (now migrated to bridge) and lots of global search and replace
> commands in Dreamweaver to customize and tweak the galleries. Wild and scary
> stuff. I'd like to use a more simple approach this time - any suggestions
> regarding web photo gallery tools? I don't mind paying for something good,
> so I'm not just looking are freeware. I see that Mark Robers still lists Web
> Album Generator on this website, it looks like the PUG uses JAblum. I was
> thinking of going with a fancy flash gallery but at chatting with someone
> recently I was told  that flash was so passe' and besides, iPhones can't
> read it. Yee... what to do...
>
> 2. Image size: My current standard image size is 625 pixels wide or 500
> pixels high. That was pretty aggressive when I first started the website in
> 1997... rather small by today's standards. I'm thinking of something like
> 800 pixels wide for the standard view and click on that for a 1000 pixel
> wide, in it's own screen, view. I looked at my user stats and found that the
> top two screen resolutions were 1280 x 800 and 1024 x 768 - I think that the
> dimensions I'm planning should work well with that.
>
> Any thoughts would be appreciated -
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Re: PESO: The Fog of Morning

[Darren Addy]

Thanks David and John!

Darren Addy
Kearney, Nebraska

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Re: PESO: A Warm Lap on a Cold Day

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks David. I like the detail and rendering but remain ambivalent about the 
content. As someone noted, it's kind of odd.
Paul
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> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Paul Stenquist  
> wrote:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14753473
> 
> Very nice. Good detail
> 
> Dave
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OT: Web Gallery Questions

[Mark C]

I'm working on re-doing my website this winter, hopefully completely 
nuking the old site and replacing it with something new. (I plan to 
leave the blog in place, but will probably update the skin.) It's been a 
while since I re-did things. Any comments on the following would be 
appreciated:


1. Web Photo Gallery Software: For my last web update I used Photoshops 
web gallery tool (now migrated to bridge) and lots of global search and 
replace commands in Dreamweaver to customize and tweak the galleries. 
Wild and scary stuff. I'd like to use a more simple approach this time - 
any suggestions regarding web photo gallery tools? I don't mind paying 
for something good, so I'm not just looking are freeware. I see that 
Mark Robers still lists Web Album Generator on this website, it looks 
like the PUG uses JAblum. I was thinking of going with a fancy flash 
gallery but at chatting with someone recently I was told  that flash was 
so passe' and besides, iPhones can't read it. Yee... what to do...


2. Image size: My current standard image size is 625 pixels wide or 500 
pixels high. That was pretty aggressive when I first started the website 
in 1997... rather small by today's standards. I'm thinking of something 
like 800 pixels wide for the standard view and click on that for a 1000 
pixel wide, in it's own screen, view. I looked at my user stats and 
found that the top two screen resolutions were 1280 x 800 and 1024 x 768 
- I think that the dimensions I'm planning should work well with that.


Any thoughts would be appreciated -

Mark C.

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Re: PESO: Horde - Christine.

[Christine Nielsen]

Ah well.  I suppose that's a tall order, anyway, for a lens at a
fraction of the price...

:)
-c


On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Honestly, it hasn't for me. I've dialed the 55~300 lens out to 300 then drawn 
> it back to 250 just to check the difference and the "itch" intensifies
> Take my advice and make these moves before, as in my case, your age becomes a 
> part of the equation.
>
> Jack
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Christine Nielsen 
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
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> Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2011 12:53 PM
> Subject: Re: PESO: Horde - Christine.
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> Sorry, I forgot to answer you question about my feelings re the DA 55~300.
>> I "almost" feel guilty when I see the images and remember how much the DA 
>> cost at B&H.. ($350).
>> I recommended it to my older brother (the one who used to prove over and 
>> over that he was older and bigger and could beat me up...or maybe I was a 
>> slow learner) who has told me he bought one and loves it.
>> It has the expected "consumer" operation, weight and feel and, as you may 
>> know, is a screw drive AF.
>>
>> Highly Recommended!
>>
>
> Thanks for your thoughts, Jack.  I've heard similar reviews from
> others... Here's the thing: every now & then, I wonder if the 55-300
> could scratch the itch I sometimes feel for the 60-250...
>
> :)
> -c
>
>> Jack
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Christine Nielsen 
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
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>> Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2011 7:18 AM
>> Subject: Re: PESO: Horde
>>
>> Wow!  I hope you were wearing a hat...
>>
>> How do you like that 55-300?  I saw one on craiglist recently...
>>
>> :)
>> -c
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>>> Taken yesterday at the local state managed wildlife area.
>>> This is just a small section of a sky that looked and sounded the same in 
>>> all directions..unbelievable!
>>>
>>>
>>> Comments?
>>>
>>> Jack
>>>
>>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=620
>>>
>>> K5 and trusty DA 55~300
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Re: PESO: Horde

[Larry Colen]

On Dec 7, 2011, at 6:21 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

> Taken yesterday at the local state managed wildlife area.
> This is just a small section of a sky that looked and sounded the same in all 
> directions..unbelievable!
>  
>  
> Comments?

That's one flock of a nice photo.  A real feather in your cap.

>  
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Re: PESO: Horde

[Jack Davis]

Thanks, David!

Jack
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Subject: Re: PESO: Horde

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Taken yesterday at the local state managed wildlife area.
> This is just a small section of a sky that looked and sounded the same in all 
> directions..unbelievable!
>
>
> Comments?

Thats really great

Dave
>
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Re: Another doorway

[John Francis]

On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 11:02:56PM -, Bob W wrote:
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> > Don Guthrie
> > Sent: 07 December 2011 22:23
> > To: pdml@pdml.net
> > Subject: Another doorway
> > 
> > Another Door to Nowhere
> > 
> > The store fronts are clean and inviting but the rear doors are unsigned
> > and utilitarian. Would you dare enter here?
> > C&C always useful.
> > 
> > http://donspix.posterous.com/#!/
> > 
> 
> nice shot. Some people won't like the subject matter - doors have their
> knockers - but I like it.

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RE: Another doorway

[Bob W]

> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Don Guthrie
> Sent: 07 December 2011 22:23
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Subject: Another doorway
> 
> Another Door to Nowhere
> 
> The store fronts are clean and inviting but the rear doors are unsigned
> and utilitarian. Would you dare enter here?
> C&C always useful.
> 
> http://donspix.posterous.com/#!/
> 

nice shot. Some people won't like the subject matter - doors have their
knockers - but I like it.

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Re: PESO: Horde

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On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Taken yesterday at the local state managed wildlife area.
> This is just a small section of a sky that looked and sounded the same in all 
> directions..unbelievable!
>
>
> Comments?

Thats really great

Dave
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Re: PESO: Horde

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On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 9:36 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
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> Spectacular!
>
> What are they? (and don't say "birds")

But, can we call you Shirley.:-)

Dave
>
> ;-)
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: Jack Davis 
> Sent: December 7, 2011 12/7/11
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: PESO: Horde
>
> Taken yesterday at the local state managed wildlife area.
> This is just a small section of a sky that looked and sounded the same in all 
> directions..unbelievable!
>
>
> Comments?
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Re: PESO - The Company Car

[David J Brooks]

But, plenty of room for the other 'clowns' he has to work with

Dave

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 8:00 AM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> Norbert was thrilled to find out that his promotion to Vice President
> of Corporate Sales included a company car and an executive assistant,
> Rex:
>
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/12/company-car.html
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>
> cheers,
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RE: Public Photo Preferences

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> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Larry Colen

> > I've noticed that lately a lot more people seem to favor very
> > contrasty overly saturated photos to a more natural look.  Has anyone
> > else noticed this trend?  Maybe it's due to the proliferation of
> small
> > digicams and camera phones whose jpgs tend to be very contrasty by
> > default.
> 
> Some people like photos with punch, pop and sizzle.  

What's good for breakfast cereal is good for photography.

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Re: PESO -- Buried Bench

[David J Brooks]

I like it

Dave

On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 11:24 PM, P. J. Alling
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> Four months later and the aftermath of Irene is still with us.  This bench
> was mostly buried by the beach being moved inland by the tidal surge.  It's
> not really part of the after Irene series since it's not in Madison, CT.
>
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20buriedbench.html
>
> Equipment:  Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax 43mm f1.9 Limited.
>
> Notes: Converted to B&W using Fotomatic B&W Plus with the simulated Red
> filter, grain layer added and Platinum Toned.
>
> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
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> a lengthily search.
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Re: PESO: A Warm Lap on a Cold Day

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On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14753473

Very nice. Good detail

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Re: PESO: The Fog of Morning

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On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> Might help if I included the link to the PESO:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/6466555879/in/photostream/lightbox/
>
> Darren Addy
> Kearney, Nebraska

Oo thats very nice.

Dave
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Darren Addy  wrote:
>> We've all heard of the Fog of War, but nothing makes you want to be
>> extremely late for work like a below 0F morning with freezing fog as
>> the sun tries to burn through it in the golden hour, during the drive
>> to your place of gainful employment.
>>
>> Working for a living is vastly over-rated, I say.
>>
>> Darren Addy
>> Kearney, Nebraska
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Re: slightly sticky shutter button on K-x

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On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> The shutter button on my K-x is just a bit sticky, in that it doesn't aways 
> pop back up when I release it.  Is there something I can do to clean it in 
> case there' just a little dirt on it that's causing the trouble?

Two words, Nikon D700:-)

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Re: Another doorway

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On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Don Guthrie  wrote:
> Another Door to Nowhere
>
> The store fronts are clean and inviting but the rear doors are unsigned and
> utilitarian.

Yes but it makes a nice pictures. Very colourful.

Would you dare enter here?

I would and have.:-)

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Re: Public Photo Preferences

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On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> It's the Nikon look.

Now Bob

Dave
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Evan Hanson  wrote:
>> I've noticed that lately a lot more people seem to favor very
>> contrasty overly saturated photos to a more natural look.  Has anyone
>> else noticed this trend?  Maybe it's due to the proliferation of small
>> digicams and camera phones whose jpgs tend to be very contrasty by
>> default.
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Annsan made it to Boston OK

[Mark Roberts]

Just had a brief meet-up with Annsan. We looked at a few photos and
disparaged the lot of you behind your backs. The big Boston PDML meet
takes place Saturday. 
 
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Re: Public Photo Preferences

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On Dec 7, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Evan Hanson wrote:

> I've noticed that lately a lot more people seem to favor very
> contrasty overly saturated photos to a more natural look.  Has anyone
> else noticed this trend?  Maybe it's due to the proliferation of small
> digicams and camera phones whose jpgs tend to be very contrasty by
> default.

Some people like photos with punch, pop and sizzle.  My take is that some 
images work well that way, others don't.  In the same vein I don't condemn 
every image done with over the top HDR and tone mapping, but feel that it is 
often over done.  One of these days I'll learn the tools well enough to get a 
natural looking wide dynamic range.  Though judging based  on my K-5 versus the 
K20, by the time I get around to learning how to do it in software,  the 
sensors will be able to collect that dynamic range in hardware. 

My kvetch is with portraits where the skin tones are over exposed enough to, if 
not wash out, then lose most of the detail.  I think of it as "The canon look", 
probably because the friend of mine that shoots a lot in that style shoots a 
canon.  

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Another doorway

[Don Guthrie]

Another Door to Nowhere

The store fronts are clean and inviting but the rear doors are unsigned 
and utilitarian. Would you dare enter here?

C&C always useful.

http://donspix.posterous.com/#!/

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Re: Unusual effect and PESO - What do we have for dinner tonight?

[Igor Roshchin]

Some people eat blue cheese, some - blue birds, and some others - blue meet.
:-)

Igor


Tue Dec 6 12:52:10 EST 2011
knarftheriault at gmail.com wrote:

You eat blue beef?

cheers,
frank

ps: can't really comment about the sharpness (or lack thereof) as it
looks plenty sharp on my phone...

--- Original Message ---

From: Igor Roshchin 
Sent: December 5, 2011 12/5/11
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I was cooking some beef yesterday in the stove.
When I took it  out, I spent some time trying to get the picture.
Unfortunately, it didn't come out as sharp as I wanted.
http://42graphy.org/misc/_IR33616.jpg

The interesting part is that the droplets were hanging down, below the 
pot cover, and on the photto they appear sticking up.

In relation to this shooting I have a question.
I was using K-7 with the DFA-100/2.8 Macro, on a Tiltall tripod.
I am trying to figure out what was the reason for the lack of sharpness
(even in the area where it is focused).

Risking the meet cooling off,
I tried with the shake-reduction switched on and off,
I tried to close down the aperture - up to 5.6 and 6.something
(the exposure time went up to about half a second),
I tried to use the 2-second delay release, but nothing of that seemed to
help.
Any other thoughts?

Do you think the mirror can produce some shake? Would it be better to do
it with the locked up mirror?

Igor


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Re: PESO: Heard on HIgh

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Jack.


On Dec 7, 2011, at 3:01 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

> ..and a joyous sound was heard in the land.
>  Er.. .something like that.
> 
> Well caught timely scene, Paul!
> 
> Jack
> 
> - Original Message -
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> Subject: PESO: Heard on HIgh
> 
> One with considerably more volume than the other.
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14759472
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RE: Public Photo Preferences

[John Sessoms]

Styles come and go. This too shall pass.

From: Don Guthrie

Having been found guilty of purveying such  I blame or credit HD TVs.

Message: 6
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 11:17:54 -0500
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

I've noticed that lately a lot more people seem to favor very
contrasty overly saturated photos to a more natural look.  Has anyone
else noticed this trend?  Maybe it's due to the proliferation of small
digicams and camera phones whose jpgs tend to be very contrasty by
default.

Evan


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OT: Hot time in the old town tonight

[John Sessoms]

Interesting crime news from Chicago:

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-12-05/news/chi-robber-tussles-with-martialarts-expert-gets-beaten-and-shot-20111205_1_arts-robber-burglary-cases

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RE: GESO (15): West Coast

[John Sessoms]

From: David Mann


These pics are from a trip to the West Coast that we took on November
19-22.  The Mrs was going over to do some work on the Monday so we
made a weekend of it.

The day we went over was the first anniversary of the Pike River mine
disaster and they were unveiling a new memorial in central Greymouth.
We didn't make it over in time to attend the service but we went to
see it before heading home, and I've included a photo in the
gallery.

http://www.multi.net.nz/west-coast/


I see the strange artifact again. Thinking about it just now, I wonder 
if maybe it was upside down. If you turned it over, it might be a form 
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Re: PESO: Horde - Christine.

[Jack Davis]

Honestly, it hasn't for me. I've dialed the 55~300 lens out to 300 then drawn 
it back to 250 just to check the difference and the "itch" intensifies
Take my advice and make these moves before, as in my case, your age becomes a 
part of the equation.
 
Jack

 
- Original Message -
From: Christine Nielsen 
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Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2011 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: PESO: Horde - Christine.

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Sorry, I forgot to answer you question about my feelings re the DA 55~300.
> I "almost" feel guilty when I see the images and remember how much the DA 
> cost at B&H.. ($350).
> I recommended it to my older brother (the one who used to prove over and over 
> that he was older and bigger and could beat me up...or maybe I was a slow 
> learner) who has told me he bought one and loves it.
> It has the expected "consumer" operation, weight and feel and, as you may 
> know, is a screw drive AF.
>
> Highly Recommended!
>

Thanks for your thoughts, Jack.  I've heard similar reviews from
others... Here's the thing: every now & then, I wonder if the 55-300
could scratch the itch I sometimes feel for the 60-250...

:)
-c

> Jack
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Christine Nielsen 
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Cc:
> Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2011 7:18 AM
> Subject: Re: PESO: Horde
>
> Wow!  I hope you were wearing a hat...
>
> How do you like that 55-300?  I saw one on craiglist recently...
>
> :)
> -c
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> Taken yesterday at the local state managed wildlife area.
>> This is just a small section of a sky that looked and sounded the same in 
>> all directions..unbelievable!
>>
>>
>> Comments?
>>
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>>
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Re: PESO: Horde - Christine.

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On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Sorry, I forgot to answer you question about my feelings re the DA 55~300.
> I "almost" feel guilty when I see the images and remember how much the DA 
> cost at B&H.. ($350).
> I recommended it to my older brother (the one who used to prove over and over 
> that he was older and bigger and could beat me up...or maybe I was a slow 
> learner) who has told me he bought one and loves it.
> It has the expected "consumer" operation, weight and feel and, as you may 
> know, is a screw drive AF.
>
> Highly Recommended!
>

Thanks for your thoughts, Jack.  I've heard similar reviews from
others... Here's the thing: every now & then, I wonder if the 55-300
could scratch the itch I sometimes feel for the 60-250...

:)
-c

> Jack
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Christine Nielsen 
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Cc:
> Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2011 7:18 AM
> Subject: Re: PESO: Horde
>
> Wow!  I hope you were wearing a hat...
>
> How do you like that 55-300?  I saw one on craiglist recently...
>
> :)
> -c
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> Taken yesterday at the local state managed wildlife area.
>> This is just a small section of a sky that looked and sounded the same in 
>> all directions..unbelievable!
>>
>>
>> Comments?
>>
>> Jack
>>
>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=620
>>
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Re: Public Photo Preferences

[Jack Davis]

Some blame must go to the Velvia era.

Jack
 
- Original Message -
From: Don Guthrie 
To: pdml@pdml.net
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Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2011 9:28 AM
Subject: Public Photo Preferences

Having been found guilty of purveying such 

I blame or credit HD TVs.




> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 11:17:54 -0500
> From: Evan Hanson 
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> Subject: Public Photo Preferences
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> I've noticed that lately a lot more people seem to favor very
> contrasty overly saturated photos to a more natural look.  Has anyone
> else noticed this trend?  Maybe it's due to the proliferation of small
> digicams and camera phones whose jpgs tend to be very contrasty by
> default.
>
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Re: Peso Horde

[Jack Davis]

In another word..Thanks!

Jack ;)

- Original Message -
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Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2011 9:22 AM
Subject: RE: Peso Horde

In a word WOW!





> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 06:21:44 -0800 (PST)
> From: Jack Davis 
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: PESO: Horde
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>
> Taken yesterday at the local state managed wildlife area.
> This is just a small section of a sky that looked and sounded the same in all 
> directions..unbelievable!
> ?
> ?
> Comments?
> ?
> Jack
> ?
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=620
> ?


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Re: PESO: Heard on HIgh

[Jack Davis]

..and a joyous sound was heard in the land.
 Er.. .something like that.

Well caught timely scene, Paul!

Jack

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Subject: PESO: Heard on HIgh

One with considerably more volume than the other.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14759472

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Re: PESO: Horde

[Jack Davis]

Thanks, Steve. Such events are stirring experiences.
 
Jack

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Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2011 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: PESO: Horde

on 2011-12-07 07:21 Jack Davis wrote
> Taken yesterday at the local state managed wildlife area.
> This is just a small section of a sky that looked and sounded the same in all 
> directions..unbelievable!
> 
> 
> Comments?
> 
> Jack
> 
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=620

wonderful shot; i like the striping effect of birds moving in different 
directions

i was privileged to spend a dawn at Bosque del Apache in central New Mexico 
several years ago



and i would love to go back with better camera skills; at a small lake there, 
at certain seasonal peaks, a similar number of snow geese, along with cranes, 
ducks, grebes and a few other species, all roost on the water, and start to 
stir as the the sky brightens, then something triggers them and they all take 
off at once (you have to take a short hike in to where this happens, yet i 
don't believe anyone was shat upon)

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Re: PESO: Horde - Christine.

[Paul Sorenson]

Thanks Jack and P J.  Guess I'll have to start saving my pennies...

-p


On 12/7/2011 1:25 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

I no longer have the 80~320, but it wasn't even close to being in the same 
league with the 55~300, especially toward the long end. In my experience the 
80-320 produced an acceptable image if one avoided shooting beyond 200-250mm.

Jack

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Subject: Re: PESO: Horde - Christine.

Can anyone make comparisons in the performance between the DA 55-300 and
the FA 80-320?

-p

On 12/7/2011 10:29 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

Sorry, I forgot to answer you question about my feelings re the DA 55~300.
I "almost" feel guilty when I see the images and remember how much the DA cost at 
B&H.. ($350).
I recommended it to my older brother (the one who used to prove over and over 
that he was older and bigger and could beat me up...or maybe I was a slow 
learner) who has told me he bought one and loves it.
It has the expected "consumer" operation, weight and feel and, as you may know, 
is a screw drive AF.

Highly Recommended!

Jack

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Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2011 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: PESO: Horde

Wow!  I hope you were wearing a hat...

How do you like that 55-300?  I saw one on craiglist recently...

:)
-c


On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Jack Davis   wrote:

Taken yesterday at the local state managed wildlife area.
This is just a small section of a sky that looked and sounded the same in all 
directions..unbelievable!


Comments?

Jack

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=620

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RE: PESO: Heard on HIgh

[Bob W]

> in the Old Rotal Naval College here

that, of course, is a typo. I meant the Old Scrotal Navel College...

B

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> Sent: 07 December 2011 19:29
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> 
> > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf
> Of
> > Paul Stenquist
> >
> > One with considerably more volume than the other.
> >
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14759472
> >
> 
> Trinity College of Music is located in the Old Rotal Naval College here
> in
> Greenwich. Normally when walking through you get to hear some great
> sounds
> coming out of the rehearsal rooms and studios, especially on a nice day
> when
> the windows are open. At this time of year many of the students busk
> and
> there's been some beautiful carol singing in the market today, as well
> as
> some excellent quartets and such-like of different types of instrument.
> 
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RE: PESO: Heard on HIgh

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> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Paul Stenquist
> 
> One with considerably more volume than the other.
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14759472
> 

Trinity College of Music is located in the Old Rotal Naval College here in
Greenwich. Normally when walking through you get to hear some great sounds
coming out of the rehearsal rooms and studios, especially on a nice day when
the windows are open. At this time of year many of the students busk and
there's been some beautiful carol singing in the market today, as well as
some excellent quartets and such-like of different types of instrument.

B


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Re: Public Photo Preferences

[kwaller]

I know for many years, pro outdoor photogs preferred the look of Velvia to 
other films available and some people have considered that look over 
saturated.


Kenneth Waller
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From: "Evan Hanson" 

Subject: Public Photo Preferences



I've noticed that lately a lot more people seem to favor very
contrasty overly saturated photos to a more natural look.  Has anyone
else noticed this trend?  Maybe it's due to the proliferation of small
digicams and camera phones whose jpgs tend to be very contrasty by
default.

Evan



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Re: PESO: Horde - Christine.

[Jack Davis]

I no longer have the 80~320, but it wasn't even close to being in the same 
league with the 55~300, especially toward the long end. In my experience the 
80-320 produced an acceptable image if one avoided shooting beyond 200-250mm.

Jack

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Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2011 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: PESO: Horde - Christine.

Can anyone make comparisons in the performance between the DA 55-300 and 
the FA 80-320?

-p

On 12/7/2011 10:29 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
> Sorry, I forgot to answer you question about my feelings re the DA 55~300.
> I "almost" feel guilty when I see the images and remember how much the DA 
> cost at B&H.. ($350).
> I recommended it to my older brother (the one who used to prove over and over 
> that he was older and bigger and could beat me up...or maybe I was a slow 
> learner) who has told me he bought one and loves it.
> It has the expected "consumer" operation, weight and feel and, as you may 
> know, is a screw drive AF.
>
> Highly Recommended!
>
> Jack
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Christine Nielsen
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Cc:
> Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2011 7:18 AM
> Subject: Re: PESO: Horde
>
> Wow!  I hope you were wearing a hat...
>
> How do you like that 55-300?  I saw one on craiglist recently...
>
> :)
> -c
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> Taken yesterday at the local state managed wildlife area.
>> This is just a small section of a sky that looked and sounded the same in 
>> all directions..unbelievable!
>>
>>
>> Comments?
>>
>> Jack
>>
>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=620
>>
>> K5 and trusty DA 55~300
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PESO: Heard on HIgh

[Paul Stenquist]

One with considerably more volume than the other.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14759472

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Re: Public Photo Preferences

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On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Evan Hanson  wrote:
> I've noticed that lately a lot more people seem to favor very
> contrasty overly saturated photos to a more natural look.  Has anyone
> else noticed this trend?  Maybe it's due to the proliferation of small
> digicams and camera phones whose jpgs tend to be very contrasty by
> default.

I remember this trend starting way back in the 1980s when Fuji
introduced Velvia film ...

Rock'em, sock'em punchy colors have somehow become the norm since.
Many people have commented on how subtle the colors and tones in my
photographs are ... I sometimes shake my head because to me they look
normal and all the vogue is massive over-exaggeration.
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Re: slightly sticky shutter button on K-x

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> The shutter button on my K-x is just a bit sticky, in that it doesn't aways 
> pop back up when I release it.  Is there something I can do to clean it in 
> case there' just a little dirt on it that's causing the trouble?

I had that happen on one of my *Ist DS bodies. I hit the button with a
fast shot of contact cleaner and it went away.

All the usual disclaimers: "Try this at your own risk" etc etc.
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slightly sticky shutter button on K-x

[Larry Colen]

The shutter button on my K-x is just a bit sticky, in that it doesn't aways pop 
back up when I release it.  Is there something I can do to clean it in case 
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Re: Public Photo Preferences

[Dario Bonazza]

Evan Hanson wrote:


I've noticed that lately a lot more people seem to favor very
contrasty overly saturated photos to a more natural look.  Has anyone
else noticed this trend?  Maybe it's due to the proliferation of small
digicams and camera phones whose jpgs tend to be very contrasty by
default.


Lately? In Italy, we've been calling them 'american photos' for decades...

Dario

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Re: PESO: Horde

[steve harley]

on 2011-12-07 07:21 Jack Davis wrote

Taken yesterday at the local state managed wildlife area.
This is just a small section of a sky that looked and sounded the same in all 
directions..unbelievable!


Comments?

Jack

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=620


wonderful shot; i like the striping effect of birds moving in different 
directions

i was privileged to spend a dawn at Bosque del Apache in central New Mexico 
several years ago




and i would love to go back with better camera skills; at a small lake there, 
at certain seasonal peaks, a similar number of snow geese, along with cranes, 
ducks, grebes and a few other species, all roost on the water, and start to 
stir as the the sky brightens, then something triggers them and they all take 
off at once (you have to take a short hike in to where this happens, yet i 
don't believe anyone was shat upon)


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Re: PESO: Horde - Christine.

[P. J. Alling]

I haven't any actual experience with either lens, but I can tell you 
that I've heard the the DA is better than the FA at all focal lengths 
that they share and at the short end all of those that they don't.


On 12/7/2011 12:24 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:
Can anyone make comparisons in the performance between the DA 55-300 
and the FA 80-320?


-p

On 12/7/2011 10:29 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
Sorry, I forgot to answer you question about my feelings re the DA 
55~300.
I "almost" feel guilty when I see the images and remember how much 
the DA cost at B&H.. ($350).
I recommended it to my older brother (the one who used to prove over 
and over that he was older and bigger and could beat me up...or maybe 
I was a slow learner) who has told me he bought one and loves it.
It has the expected "consumer" operation, weight and feel and, as you 
may know, is a screw drive AF.


Highly Recommended!

Jack

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From: Christine Nielsen
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Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2011 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: PESO: Horde

Wow!  I hope you were wearing a hat...

How do you like that 55-300?  I saw one on craiglist recently...

:)
-c


On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:

Taken yesterday at the local state managed wildlife area.
This is just a small section of a sky that looked and sounded the 
same in all directions..unbelievable!



Comments?

Jack

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=620

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Re: Public Photo Preferences

[P. J. Alling]

Yes, and I blame Canon.

On 12/7/2011 11:17 AM, Evan Hanson wrote:

I've noticed that lately a lot more people seem to favor very
contrasty overly saturated photos to a more natural look.  Has anyone
else noticed this trend?  Maybe it's due to the proliferation of small
digicams and camera phones whose jpgs tend to be very contrasty by
default.

Evan




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Public Photo Preferences

[Don Guthrie]

Having been found guilty of purveying such 

I blame or credit HD TVs.





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Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 11:17:54 -0500
From: Evan Hanson 
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Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

I've noticed that lately a lot more people seem to favor very
contrasty overly saturated photos to a more natural look.  Has anyone
else noticed this trend?  Maybe it's due to the proliferation of small
digicams and camera phones whose jpgs tend to be very contrasty by
default.

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Re: PESO: Horde - Christine.

[Paul Sorenson]

Can anyone make comparisons in the performance between the DA 55-300 and 
the FA 80-320?


-p

On 12/7/2011 10:29 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

Sorry, I forgot to answer you question about my feelings re the DA 55~300.
I "almost" feel guilty when I see the images and remember how much the DA cost at 
B&H.. ($350).
I recommended it to my older brother (the one who used to prove over and over 
that he was older and bigger and could beat me up...or maybe I was a slow 
learner) who has told me he bought one and loves it.
It has the expected "consumer" operation, weight and feel and, as you may know, 
is a screw drive AF.

Highly Recommended!

Jack

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From: Christine Nielsen
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Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2011 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: PESO: Horde

Wow!  I hope you were wearing a hat...

How do you like that 55-300?  I saw one on craiglist recently...

:)
-c


On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:

Taken yesterday at the local state managed wildlife area.
This is just a small section of a sky that looked and sounded the same in all 
directions..unbelievable!


Comments?

Jack

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=620

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RE: Peso Horde

[Don Guthrie]

In a word WOW!






Message: 3
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 06:21:44 -0800 (PST)
From: Jack Davis 
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Subject: PESO: Horde
Message-ID:
<1323267704.40483.yahoomail...@web130115.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Taken yesterday at the local state managed wildlife area.
This is just a small section of a sky that looked and sounded the same in all 
directions..unbelievable!
?
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Re: PESO: Horde

[Jack Davis]

No. Primarily, Snow Geese. Actually, numerous species .
Thanks for asking, Bob.

Jack 

- Original Message -
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Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2011 8:28 AM
Subject: RE: PESO: Horde

> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Jack Davis
> 
> Taken yesterday at the local state managed wildlife area.
> This is just a small section of a sky that looked and sounded the same
> in all directions..unbelievable!
> 
> 
> Comments?
> 

Flocking gull!

B


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Re: PESO: Horde

[Jack Davis]

LoL..I stayed in my rig..with the sun roof closed.  

Jack
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Wow.  I hope you had an umbrella. ;)


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Re: PESO: Horde

[Jack Davis]

Thanks, Bob! Yes, I took a series of general sky shots, but I felt this one 
stood out due to the rising cloud of geese behind the one immediately overhead.
I believe there was a period that I could have shot at any of 360 degrees and 
gotten a very similar scene.
When over, it took me a moment to recover and breathe out.

Jack

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Subject: Re: PESO: Horde

Jack,
That is stunning!  Did you get any other shots of the flight?
There's a place north of Milwaukee called Horicon Marsh that's
on the flyway for the Canada Geese.  It gets a similar look when
the birds go up, but they stay away from the edges of the preserve.
Hunters in Wisconsin can get a tag which lets them take a goose.
(knarF would be happy.)
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 8:21 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Taken yesterday at the local state managed wildlife area.
> This is just a small section of a sky that looked and sounded the same in all 
> directions..unbelievable!
>
>
> Comments?
>
> Jack
>
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Re: PESO: Horde - Christine.

[Jack Davis]

Sorry, I forgot to answer you question about my feelings re the DA 55~300.
I "almost" feel guilty when I see the images and remember how much the DA cost 
at B&H.. ($350).
I recommended it to my older brother (the one who used to prove over and over 
that he was older and bigger and could beat me up...or maybe I was a slow 
learner) who has told me he bought one and loves it.
It has the expected "consumer" operation, weight and feel and, as you may 
know, is a screw drive AF.

Highly Recommended!

Jack 

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From: Christine Nielsen 
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Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2011 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: PESO: Horde

Wow!  I hope you were wearing a hat...

How do you like that 55-300?  I saw one on craiglist recently...

:)
-c


On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Taken yesterday at the local state managed wildlife area.
> This is just a small section of a sky that looked and sounded the same in all 
> directions..unbelievable!
>
>
> Comments?
>
> Jack
>
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>
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RE: PESO: Horde

[Bob W]

> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Jack Davis
> 
> Taken yesterday at the local state managed wildlife area.
> This is just a small section of a sky that looked and sounded the same
> in all directions..unbelievable!
> 
> 
> Comments?
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Flocking gull!

B


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Re: PESO: Horde

[Evan Hanson]

Wow.  I hope you had an umbrella. ;)


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Re: Public Photo Preferences

[Bob Sullivan]

It's the Nikon look.

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Evan Hanson  wrote:
> I've noticed that lately a lot more people seem to favor very
> contrasty overly saturated photos to a more natural look.  Has anyone
> else noticed this trend?  Maybe it's due to the proliferation of small
> digicams and camera phones whose jpgs tend to be very contrasty by
> default.
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Re: PESO: Horde

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Jack,
That is stunning!  Did you get any other shots of the flight?
There's a place north of Milwaukee called Horicon Marsh that's
on the flyway for the Canada Geese.  It gets a similar look when
the birds go up, but they stay away from the edges of the preserve.
Hunters in Wisconsin can get a tag which lets them take a goose.
(knarF would be happy.)
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 8:21 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Taken yesterday at the local state managed wildlife area.
> This is just a small section of a sky that looked and sounded the same in all 
> directions..unbelievable!
>
>
> Comments?
>
> Jack
>
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Public Photo Preferences

[Evan Hanson]

I've noticed that lately a lot more people seem to favor very
contrasty overly saturated photos to a more natural look.  Has anyone
else noticed this trend?  Maybe it's due to the proliferation of small
digicams and camera phones whose jpgs tend to be very contrasty by
default.

Evan

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Re: GESO (27): Cathedral Square

[Bob Sullivan]

Dave,

Here are a couple of photos from a happier time in Cathedral Square.

https://picasaweb.google.com/115638976374047590388/NewZealand02#4992787337964748818

https://picasaweb.google.com/115638976374047590388/NewZealand02#4992787344433676306

It was a magnificent place and city.  I hope it returns soon.

Regards,  Bob S.



On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 3:39 AM, David Mann  wrote:
> I wouldn't normally post a gallery this size but this one's a bit of a 
> special case for me.
>
> The authorities have opened up a walkway along Colombo St from Cashel Mall to 
> Cathedral Square.  This is still within the cordoned-off red zone in the CBD 
> and I was surprised to see them suddenly announce this out of the blue a few 
> weeks ago.
>
> They are limiting the number of people in the area at any one time, and there 
> are signs up giving warnings that it is not 100% safe in there.  They tell 
> you to carry ID on your person (ie not in a bag) so if a large aftershock 
> hits and you're crushed by falling debris it's much easier to formally 
> identify your body.  Sounds a bit morbid but one must be practical in the 
> circumstances.
>
> They are also limiting it to weekends only and they have people patrolling 
> the other side of the fence to make sure nobody goes further than they 
> should.  The fences are fairly restrictive and we were limited to quite a 
> small area in the centre of the square.
>
> Anyway, we went in last Sunday to have a look.  It's only a small part of the 
> red zone but Cathedral Square is the centre of our city and the Cathedral 
> itself is our iconic landmark.  So I think it's important to a lot of people 
> to have this opportunity to get in and see it for real after being locked out 
> for 9 months.
>
> Taking photos was a bit of a struggle because I had to stretch to reach over 
> the wire fences and still see the viewfinder.  Those people with small point 
> & shoot cameras were easily able to poke their little lenses through the wire 
> fence :)
>
> It was quite moving being in there and seeing it all up close.  I've seen so 
> many photos showing the state of various buildings but it just doesn't 
> compare to seeing it in person.  As such I will probably go on one of the bus 
> tours to see more of the red zone.
>
> I've tried to annotate the photos with as much info about the fate of the 
> various buildings as I can remember.
>
> And, at long last, the link :)
> http://www.multi.net.nz/cbd-dec-2011/
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
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Re: full lurk mode

[Bob Sullivan]

You mean the ones with "Pardon me, I'm from New York' on the back?

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> Do New Yonkers still have to wear those special vests while in Boston?
>

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Re: PESO: Horde

[Jack Davis]

I couldn't help but wonder how many pounds of that stuff would be falling at 
any one time. I stayed in my rig. ;[

Jack 

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Wow!  I hope you were wearing a hat...

How do you like that 55-300?  I saw one on craiglist recently...

:)
-c


On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Taken yesterday at the local state managed wildlife area.
> This is just a small section of a sky that looked and sounded the same in all 
> directions..unbelievable!
>
>
> Comments?
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> Jack
>
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Re: Pentax 67II - lenses

[Bob Sullivan]

Jens,
I'll second Dario's comments.
I've never encountered any problems with old 67 lenses on a 67II.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 2:45 AM, Dario Bonazza  wrote:
> Jens wrote:
>
>> Hello list
>> I am in the market for a bargain offer on a Pentax 67II.
>> I don't know if I can use my old 67 lenses on this one?
>> Would the AE work?
>> What else shold I be aware of?
>> Thans in advance!
>
>
> Hi Jens, sure you can use your lenses, without limitations. AE will work.
> No special warnings I am aware of.
>
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Re: PESO: Horde

[Jack Davis]

Thanks, Paul!
Would certainly have included some gulls, but primarily, deafening Snow Geese. 

Jack

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Subject: Re: PESO: Horde

Amazing. And well captured. Are they gulls?
Paul
On Dec 7, 2011, at 9:21 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

> Taken yesterday at the local state managed wildlife area.
> This is just a small section of a sky that looked and sounded the same in all 
> directions..unbelievable!
>  
>  
> Comments?
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