RE: My light meter working OK?

[Bob W]

[...]
> > 3. Test both the K5 and Sekonic on a gray card, using your knowledge
> of the size of the spots to be sure that you are only metering off the
> grey card.
> > 4. If there is a material difference in the readings off the gray
> card, then test the meters off a gray card in direct noon sunlight and
> compare to the sunny 16 rule. Hopefully one of the meters will comply
> with that.
> > 5. Use the meter that complies with sunny 16 to work up an adjustment
> factor for the other.
> Well though out, but I don't think that's precise enough to get an
> accurate calibration. Sunlight intensity varies by the season and by
> atmospheric conditions.  The only way to be sure a meter is accurate is
> to have it checked by a professional calibration service. Quality Light
> Metric in L.A. 323-467-2265 is among the very best. They calibrate
> meters for many of the DPs who work in the film industry.
> 
> Paul

That's not really necessary if the object of the exercise is to understand
how the cameras and meter relate to each other, although it is of course
useful in its own right.

I've started replies to this question several times, and given up each time
because giving a full and (hopefully useful) reply takes such a long time -
email is not the best medium for extensive stuff like this.

There is a site here which is pretty good advice about calibrating the
meter, but it involves studio lights rather than sunny-16:
http://www.frankdoorhof.com/site/2011/08/calibrating-the-light-meter-some-qu
ick-notes/

The method I was trying to describe in my abortive replies was based around
sunny-16 but it foundered when it came to checking the results against rgb
values in Lightroom or similar because you need to know the light
temperature to get a reference point. Studio lights overcome this.

Even so, there seem to me to be 2 aspects to the calibration. One is trying
to make sure that each meter recommends the same settings in the same light
conditions, the other is making sure that all your cameras get the same
results at the same settings. Or knowing what to adjust and when to ensure
that you get consistent & predictable results.

And while I think its possible to do this in a home-workshop sort of way,
I've found myself getting too bogged down in the description to be any
use... So my recommendation is lots of thought and googlage.

B



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OT GESO - Fuji came through

[Derby Chang]

OK, not really a resurrection. Fuji gave me a brand new X100, after 
sending mine in four times for service. All is forgiven, because the new 
one performs beautifully, and the exposure comp dial is tighter.


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Re: Micro 4/3s the Dark-side

[Derby Chang]

I can really recommend the Pannie 14/2.8. Almost a pancake lens, and 
does fantastic near-far wide shots.





On 26/05/2012 11:10 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

I just did some looking, and Amazon has some used Lumix 14 2.8 lenses
for $185.

On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:

The E-Pl1 is a good body, and a great value for $169.  If you can grab
the Oly 17 or the Lumix 14 or 20 it becomes a great little
street/close quarters/ camera.

On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Jeffery Smith  wrote:

I got an adapter to use some LTM lenses with a m4/3 Panasonic. What interests 
me the most is the Sony NEX and all of the adapters it has. I think Sigma's 
biggest mistake has been producing a dSLR that uses only Sigma lenses. If they 
had a dSLR that would (via adapter) use everyone else's lenses, that would be a 
keeper.

Jeffery


On May 25, 2012, at 5:09 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:


thats the problem with m43, to get wide angle you need to buy a 14mm lens.

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You haven't really crossed to the darkside, at least you're using good
glass... ;-)   However with that 2x crop you really don't have anything
that qualifies as wide angle,

On 5/25/2012 3:50 PM, Don Guthrie wrote:

I have  crossed the line&  purchased a 4/3s camera. My setup of camera
&  4 lenses cost less than $200!
Olympus Pen E PL1 body only  from Amazon $169.00, Pentax to Micro 4/3s
adapter off-brand $20.00 and
4 manual Pentax lens 28mm 50mm 135mm and 35-80 zoom.

Here are a few photos taken after I opened the box popped in the
battery and set the camera to Aperture priority.
Some from inside fast-food place and others of flowers outside my house.



http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/7268313246/in/set-72157629892440362/ligh
tbox/


I have a second batch to look at today. Looks like a usable waking
camera&  2nd camera for planned outings.
Next week there is a local festival here where I will try the movie mode.

It is great to get some use out of these lenses. They are  doubled
effective focal length which leaves me wanting something on the WA side.
But the 135mm does make for a small light 270mm.



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Re: GESO - farewell show

[Derby Chang]

Thanks John, Frank.

Actually, that's why she's going there. A new Sundance channel series is 
being shot in Griffin. Her bf is in the lead.


D



On 26/05/2012 4:50 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: Derby Chang


My friend Loene is moving to Georgia (USA) for a few months. Anyone know
Griffin?

She had one last show before she leaves.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_05/12_05_loene/index.htm

TIL; shooting at 6400 is a bucket of fun


Griffin is part of the Atlanta metropolitan sprawl; about halfway 
between Atlanta and Macon.


It's Hollywood's idea of what a southern small town looks like. It 
appeared in Driving Miss Daisy, Mississipi Burning and The Fighting 
Temptations.





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RE: OT GESO - Fuji came through

[Bob W]

nice to hear that they came through in the end.

B

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> 
> 
> OK, not really a resurrection. Fuji gave me a brand new X100, after
> sending mine in four times for service. All is forgiven, because the
> new one performs beautifully, and the exposure comp dial is tighter.
> 
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Re: PESO - Trolley Stop

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On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:52 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> Almost seems like a dream.
>
> Like it a lot.

My thoughts as well, good shot Rick

Dave
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
> Christopher Hitchens
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: Rick Womer 
> Sent: May 23, 2012 5/23/12
> To: Pentax List 
> Subject: PESO - Trolley Stop
>
> From my occasional On My Way to Work series:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15777432&size=lg
>
> or
>
>
> http://phillyrick.smugmug.com/Other/Photo-Every-So-Often/i-X8bmfCW/0/L/Way-to-Work-05-18-12-10-L.jpg
>
> (K-7, FA 24-90)
>
> Comments appreciated!
>
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Re: OT GESO - Fuji came through

[Bob Sullivan]

Geso shows evidence of cold weather in OZ!
Love the girls.
Regards,  Bob S.

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> OK, not really a resurrection. Fuji gave me a brand new X100, after sending
> mine in four times for service. All is forgiven, because the new one
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Re: nanda devi/ milam glacier trek photos

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On May 25, 2012, at 9:43 PM, Subash wrote:

> that's what i'd thought too. i had taken a mz-5n, k200d and as for
> lenses, the tamron 17-50/2.8, tamron 24-135 and the fa50/1.4. i ended
> mostly using the k200d with the tamron 24-135 (most of the shots here
> are from that combo). next time i go on a trek like this, i am just
> planning to take a good point and shoot. eventually the weight does get
> to you... :)

Thanks, Subash. IIRC, that's what you did on an earlier trek, one on which you 
weren't using mules.

Great photos, though. That one of Geetha is haunting.

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Re: OT GESO - Fuji came through

[Steven Desjardins]

I like the "photographer" shot.  Fuji is funny company; great products
with design or IQ flaws.  A little more practice and they will be
really good.

On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> Geso shows evidence of cold weather in OZ!
> Love the girls.
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 5:15 AM, Derby Chang  wrote:
>>
>> OK, not really a resurrection. Fuji gave me a brand new X100, after sending
>> mine in four times for service. All is forgiven, because the new one
>> performs beautifully, and the exposure comp dial is tighter.
>>
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PESO - Walkin' My Baby Back Home

[frank theriault]

As yet another reminder that June PUG is looming (I've already
submitted mine) I stole this title from the Nat King Cole song:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/05/walkin-my-baby-back-home.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

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Re: Boris Peso #18 - Steadfast

[frank theriault]

I don't know how I missed it, but it's ~brilliant~!!

Beautiful work, Boris.  Love how you worked with the shadows.

cheers,
frank

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> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2012/04/peso-2012-18-steadfast.html
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Re: GESO - farewell show

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On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Derby Chang  wrote:
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> My friend Loene is moving to Georgia (USA) for a few months. Anyone know
> Griffin?
>
> She had one last show before she leaves.
>
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_05/12_05_loene/index.htm
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> TIL; shooting at 6400 is a bucket of fun

For some reason, i really like this
one.:http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_05/12_05_loene/07.htm

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Re: Boris Peso #18 - Steadfast

[Jack Davis]

What Frank said!

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I don't know how I missed it, but it's ~brilliant~!!

Beautiful work, Boris.  Love how you worked with the shadows.

cheers,
frank

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Re: My light meter working OK?

[Mark C]

The one thing I would add to my own comments below is to consider the 
lens you are using on the camera... Some lenses meter less accurately 
than others, and F-Stops are not T-Stops and things like light fall off, 
the numbers of elements int he lenses, etc can have an effect on the 
exposure. (F Stops are calibrated to aperture size, T-Stops are 
calibrated to actual light transmission.) It should all be minimal but 
if you are having unusual results try a different lens and see what 
happens.


MCC

On 5/25/2012 10:53 PM, Mark C wrote:

If I were testing the meters, I'd do the following:

1. Be sure to compare both meters in spot metering mode. You probably 
did this but just in case...
2. Verify what the 'spot' in the spot metering is. Put a small saucer 
sized white paper plate on a piece of black foam core. With the K5 - 
fill the frame with the plate and then slowly walk away from it, 
letting the black foam core start to fill the frame. Keep the paper 
plate centered in the finder - you will see the meter reading stay 
steady and then rapidly change as the plate gets smaller than the area 
being metered. You can verify that the "spot" being measured 
correlates the to the circle in the center of the frame. You could do 
that with the Sekonic as well.
3. Test both the K5 and Sekonic on a gray card, using your knowledge 
of the size of the spots to be sure that you are only metering off the 
grey card.
4. If there is a material difference in the readings off the gray 
card, then test the meters off a gray card in direct noon sunlight and 
compare to the sunny 16 rule. Hopefully one of the meters will comply 
with that.
5. Use the meter that complies with sunny 16 to work up an adjustment 
factor for the other.
6. Spot meter off various colored items and see if the meters perform 
consistently. If they vary, they may be more or less sensitive to 
different colors. This can be a bugger because you have no control 
point. One meter may be more sensitive to green, another to red, you 
can't use one to calibrate the other. You can try the sunny 16 rule 
with different colors, of course..


Are you shooting slide film, color neg, or silver B&W?

If B&W, I'd just go out and shoot, take notes (mental or otherwise) 
and compensate the workflow. That means tweaking your metering / film 
ISO setting (same thing), your development times and agitation 
regimen. Use the data printed along the edge of the film as a control 
point for developing. If you are shooting slide film you have to be 
more careful with metering.


Here's a story about metering and slide film:

I visited the beach with a friend of mine one day, and we both shot 
this lighthouse:


http://www.markcassino.com/newsite/portfolios/lighthouses/pages/0204l07.htm 



He had a Nikon F5 with a super sophisticated evaluative / color 
corrected metering system that he relied on. I had a Pz-1p. I spot 
metered off the black metal frame, did some quick zone calcs in my 
head, and set the exposure manually. We both shot ISO 100 slide film 
(him Provia, me E100S.) My shots came out very well - maybe 1/4 to 1/2 
stop over exposed, but very usable. His were a mess. SO taking control 
of metering with film is important.


Good luck!

MCC




On 5/21/2012 8:27 PM, Kenton Brede wrote:

I'm making a foray into film and decided I should get a light meter.
I bought a used Sekonic L-508 which has both incident and spot
metering.  Messing around with the K-5 and Sekonic, I found the
readings didn't really match up.  So I took a picture of the blue sky,
the histogram was spiked in the center.  I then spot metered the sky.
I used the compensation function to dial in 3AV to bring the meter in
line with the K-5's shutter, ISO and aperture.  I used a gray card in
the shade to meter off of with the K-5, and then matched those
settings on the Sekonic by dialing in a -1AV for the incident reading.

Does this sound like a decent calibration method?

I went around metering things and taking shots with the K-5.  I found
that if I spot metered off a shaded green bush, I needed to speed up
the shutter 2 stops to bring the histogram near center.  When metering
off a gray cloud, with silver lining, I sped up the shutter a couple
stops to bring the histogram to center.  The incident meter seemed to
get the K-5 in the ballpark when metering in front of a tan shed,
while the meter was facing the direction the sun.  In shade, facing
away from the sun, I generally had to slow the shutter down a couple
stops.

Does this sound like the way an accurate light meter works?  I've
never used one.

Any thoughts appreciated.  I realize all this hinges on the K-5 being
accurate, and assuming the film cameras will work with the same meter
readout as the K-5.  I probably should have just purchased a new
model, but good ones are expensive!
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Re: Micro 4/3s the Dark-side

[steve harley]

on 2012-05-25 19:10 Steven Desjardins wrote

I just did some looking, and Amazon has some used Lumix 14 2.8 lenses
for $185.


did you mean 14mm f/2.5? i don't see it that cheaply at the moment but note 
that there's a run of new ones at about that price on eBay (there was a recent 
Amazon special sale on GF3 and plus that lens from which a lot of people seem 
to be reselling the lens)


i have previously written of my foray in the M43 direction, a Panasonic GH2 
with one Lumix lens (45-200) plus M42 and PK adapters; it belongs to my partner 
but was assembled by me from second-hand sources; a nice lens to use on this is 
the Super Macro-Takumar 50/4 whose preset aperture ring is clickless which is 
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Re: nanda devi/ milam glacier trek photos

[Mark C]

On 5/22/2012 9:33 PM, Subash wrote:

hi,

a large gallery, but hopefully the thumbnail view would let you see
what you want to see:

https://picasaweb.google.com/117979942681874882460/Nandadevi

do let me know what you like and what you don't

thanks, subash

Very nice collection - lots of great shots that impart a sense of the 
people and the place.. My favorite is the gentleman at moppa.


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Re: Canon Powershot G1X vs. Pentax K-01

[Mark C]

On 5/25/2012 1:55 PM, Jens wrote:

I did a micro test. Canon G1X vs. Pentax K-01. Take a look:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157629887950310/

Regards¨
Jens

Thanks for posting your write up. I was seriously considering the GX1 
till I tried it out at the local camera store. I couldn't get it to 
focus in macro mode at all, nor could the two sales reps who tried. Your 
comment confirms my experience.


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Re: OT: Sometimes computers just make me crazy.

[Jim King]

John Sessoms wrote on Fri, 25 May 2012 11:00:36 -0700

> I do not have a clue what the problem was. I shut everything down and crawled 
> under the desk to get to the router.
> The router was sitting on the floor under the desk because the cable to the 
> network printer was too short for it to sit anywhere else. I swapped cables 
> around so I could reposition the router up on top of the desk so I won't have 
> to crawl under there to get to it next time things get screwy.
> I restarted everything in sequence - this computer, NAS, Laptop, PhotoShop 
> computer ... and everything is forgiven. They're all mapping the NAS, and 
> they're all printing to the network printer, each of the 3 computers can see 
> the shared folders on the other two computers and they can all reach the 
> internet.
> "I can't think about that right now. If I do, I'll go crazy. I'll think about 
> that tomorrow."

My idea of hell is a succession of network problems which I'm forced to try to 
resolve for all eternity…

Regards, Jim


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VP - Days Of The Old Town (opening) | Roman Melihhov Photography

[Roman Melihhov]

http://roman.blakout.net/index.php?/category/33

^^^ Annual Old Town Days but I'm not following the buzz, focusing on
some random portraits and video setup system. I love DA* 50-135mm
despite of its weight and size. 


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Re: OT GESO - Fuji came through

[Brian Walters]

Quoting Derby Chang :

OK, not really a resurrection. Fuji gave me a brand new X100, after  
sending mine in four times for service. All is forgiven, because the  
new one performs beautifully, and the exposure comp dial is tighter.


http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_05/12_05_resurrection/index.htm




Glad it all worked out.

A very enjoyable gallery - especially 04 an 06.



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Re: PESO - Walkin' My Baby Back Home

[Brian Walters]

Quoting frank theriault :


As yet another reminder that June PUG is looming (I've already
submitted mine) I stole this title from the Nat King Cole song:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/05/walkin-my-baby-back-home.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.




I like how you got the legs synchronized - and the pooch seems happy  
to be heading home




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Eric Holubow exhibition at the Chicago Cultural Center

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Gang:  I was able to see this exhibition the other day.  If you're in the 
neighborhood, I'd recommend a viewing--and it's free!  Cheers, Christine 



http://www.explorechicago.org/city/en/things_see_do/event_landing/events/dca_tourism/EricHolubow.html

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Re: PESO - Another Tree Swallow

[Mark C]

On 5/22/2012 10:14 PM, frank theriault wrote:

I may like this tree swallow more than the one from a few days ago
~except~ for that bright yellow oof bit in the bottom left.  Do you
think it's too much of a distraction, or can you live with it?  I'd be
very curious to get the reaction of the list:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/05/another-tree-swallow.html

Thanks in advance.  Hope you enjoy.

cheers,
frank

Very nice shot - well composed with the bird on the diagonal and great 
pose on the bird's part. The yellow does not bother me due to where it 
is in the frame. I do think that the overall shot is a little over 
exposed, especially on the bird's underside. I copied it into Photoshop 
and the highlight recovery tool fixed everything - just a thought. Great 
shot though.


MCC

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Re: PESO - Nesting by the Yacht Club

[Mark C]

On 5/22/2012 11:44 AM, Don Guthrie wrote:

Not quite right Frank, the reflections make it an outstanding picture!



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This redneck grebe's nest is near the Lakeshore Yacht Club.  I thought
the reflections of the masts made for an interesting picture:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/05/nesting-by-yacht-club.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
frank



Nice - a very surreal setting in a way for the bird and her nest.

MCC

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Re: PESO - PAD - St. Bridget's Church

[Mark C]

Very nice mood and feel to this. The HDR lighting gives it a nice feel.

MCC


On 24 May 2012 18:32, George Sinos  wrote:

A few days ago, Mike Johnston of The Online Photographer suggested
that you may improve your printing skills by printing a different
photo every day, for 30days.

Today is my seventh day into the project and I must admit that I'm
getting more comfortable with printing. My skills may or may not be
improving but I've learned a lot about printing through Lightroom 4.
Previously I did the majority of printing through Photoshop.

Now that I have a 7 day cushion I decided to post screen versions of
the photos I've selected for prints.

St. Bridget's is the beautiful old church I attended during my grade
school and high school years. I'll be returning over the next few
weeks to get additional photos. This is one of the initial test shots.



There are a number of churches in the area that are expected to be
closed over the next year.  Population shift and finances are the
primary reasons.  Luckily, this beautiful old church isn't one of
them.  My intention is to get all of them photographed before it's too
late.

gs

George Sinos

gsi...@gmail.com
www.georgesphotos.net
plus.georgesinos.com

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PESO: Slow boat

[Tim Bray]

There are lots of ways to get around Vancouver harbor. This is one of
them. In (gasp) B&W:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/107606703558161507946/albums/posts/5746996059306874818

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Re: PESO - Walkin' My Baby Back Home

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Cute composition.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 12:51 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> As yet another reminder that June PUG is looming (I've already
> submitted mine) I stole this title from the Nat King Cole song:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/05/walkin-my-baby-back-home.html
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
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Re: nanda devi/ milam glacier trek photos

[Subash]

On Sat, 26 May 2012 15:24:54 -0400
Mark C  wrote:

> Very nice collection - lots of great shots that impart a sense of the 
> people and the place.. My favorite is the gentleman at moppa.

thanks for the nice words Mark. appreciate it...

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Re: PESO: Slow boat

[Rick Womer]

Nice shot.  They'd have an easier time if they didn't have all that crap 
dragging in the water.

Rick
 
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There are lots of ways to get around Vancouver harbor. This is one of
them. In (gasp) B&W:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/107606703558161507946/albums/posts/5746996059306874818

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PESO - Walkin' My Baby Back Home (new crop)

[frank theriault]

>From the "what the hell was I thinking?" department.  Here's the first
one, posted earlier:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/05/walkin-my-baby-back-home.html

I guess I thought the feet and crap in the background added
environment or atmosphere or place or something.  After having looked
a bunch of times I realize they added clutter and useless crap.

Here's the new (and I think improved) crop:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/05/walkin-my-baby-back-home-new-crop.html

What do you think?  Improvement?

Hope you enjoy.  Comments encouraged.

cheers,
frank

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Post size limit

[Jeffery Smith]

Are the rest of you getting your posts kicked back to you to if they exceed 
about 5 lines of text? I'm deleting the post that I'm responding to, but the 
posts are getting kicked back to me as being too large (over 10k). The size 
limit to me seems Twitter-sized, but I see other posts that are several screen 
long. Do these longer messages nood to be approved by the admins every time? 

Sent from my iPad

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Re: PESO - Walkin' My Baby Back Home (new crop)

[Bob Sullivan]

Yes, much improved!  Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 8:55 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> From the "what the hell was I thinking?" department.  Here's the first
> one, posted earlier:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/05/walkin-my-baby-back-home.html
>
> I guess I thought the feet and crap in the background added
> environment or atmosphere or place or something.  After having looked
> a bunch of times I realize they added clutter and useless crap.
>
> Here's the new (and I think improved) crop:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/05/walkin-my-baby-back-home-new-crop.html
>
> What do you think?  Improvement?
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments encouraged.
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
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Re: Post size limit

[Bob Sullivan]

Plain text only?  No problems here on my laptop!  Bob S.

On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Jeffery Smith  wrote:
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> about 5 lines of text? I'm deleting the post that I'm responding to, but the 
> posts are getting kicked back to me as being too large (over 10k). The size 
> limit to me seems Twitter-sized, but I see other posts that are several 
> screen long. Do these longer messages nood to be approved by the admins every 
> time?
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> Jeffery L. Smith
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