RE: A bridge too far ... er too low?
I blame the truck makers B -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms Sent: 09 November 2012 02:36 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT: A bridge too far ... er too low? Someone sent me a YouTube link to a video about an old railroad bridge in Durham, NC where I grew up. I thought I'd share: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20MCxSFgrncfeature=share -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: photo net again
Not only PhotoNet, but if you do a search for a celebrity on Google, aaboutnout 30% of the shots are placeholders. Speaks to me of servers hosting same being down in the NE. On Nov 5, 2012, at 17:42 , jn289 wrote: Just went back to page and only two previews show up, all the rest are just place holders..Is anyone else having the same issues, I am having, I ask again ? Thanks to all who went and checked it out for me, Joe http://photo.net/photos/pjjdxn -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: photo net again
Perhaps it's accurately reflecting the blank void of our celebrity culture B -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Joseph McAllister Sent: 09 November 2012 09:02 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: photo net again Not only PhotoNet, but if you do a search for a celebrity on Google, aaboutnout 30% of the shots are placeholders. Speaks to me of servers hosting same being down in the NE. On Nov 5, 2012, at 17:42 , jn289 wrote: Just went back to page and only two previews show up, all the rest are just place holders..Is anyone else having the same issues, I am having, I ask again ? Thanks to all who went and checked it out for me, Joe http://photo.net/photos/pjjdxn -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FSF: Bucket full of lenses (and a camera)
Wow Miserere, Are you going to sell the most complete set of 28mm manual focus K-mount lenses ever collected? Damn crisis ;-) Regards, Jaume - Mensaje original - De: Miserere miser...@gmail.com Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net CC: Enviado: Viernes 9 de noviembre de 2012 2:00 Asunto: FSF: Bucket full of lenses (and a camera) G #39;morning everyone (hey, it's Friday in Europe!), Doing some Spring Cleaning in my lens closet. I'm either really late, or really early, I'm not sure, but here are the lenses being offered to you lovely ladies and gentlemen of the PDML (Please Deliver Miserere's Lenses). Unless otherwise stated, lenses come with whatever's shown in the photo. Lenses are in good-to-excellent condition, and the photo(s) should let you figure out which exactly it is. Stupidly long image URLs courtesy of Picasa. Shipping: - USA: $5 via USPS Priority; 2 or more lenses: $10. - Foreigners: Will have to ask for quotes. The Stuff: - Pentax PZ-10 camera body, $10 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6MljbJdZwFw/UJk3fkkj6xI/EC0/jhemDNX41QE/s1024/IMG_0827.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-s7TiXAhinzU/UJk3fs-FGOI/ECo/SitUsQNuKnE/s1024/IMG_0828.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-bJQ44gPVn0g/UJk3gF8OZ6I/ECs/JPsOWkzy-KI/s1024/IMG_0829.jpg - Vivitar 28mm f/2 PKA (manufactured by Komine), $180 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UIx5nZS1JQQ/UJk3Zty_PRI/EBc/n_c2-Rz0S6c/s1024/IMG_0808.jpg - Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, $85 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-pqisjRvaSd8/UJk3Z-CMdRI/EBY/CnQ6K9vu57w/s1024/IMG_0809.jpg - Vivitar 28mm f/2 PK (manufactured by Kiron), $55 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kR8ItweAm_E/UJk3aeQEYxI/EBs/NE1uwdXc2WA/s1024/IMG_0810.jpg Blades stuck wide open. I expect someone with a jeweller's screwdriver and a bit of acetone should get this working again. I haven't found the time to try fixing it. - Tokina 28-70mm f/2.8-4.3 PKA, $50 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-zE2tdWy4eJs/UJk3aoEc_5I/EBk/GhO5Zz2ACjk/s1024/IMG_0811.jpg - Sigma 70-210mm f/4.5 PK, $40 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-9tONJjvEEdM/UJk3a9PftJI/EBo/xYrUSrNf2wA/s1024/IMG_0812.jpg - Soligor 80-200mm f/4.5 PK, $40 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-koZxhzrPQdc/UJk3b1Jd95I/EB4/BrYRKwBZtco/s1024/IMG_0813.jpg https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-a0MQEE94m24/UJk3cM788AI/ECE/fuFuoQD2_Zo/s1024/IMG_0814.jpg - Tokina 28mm f/2.8 PKA, $45 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-hb67hp7F6zs/UJk3ddpHq2I/ECI/mXHC9RM1PnU/s1024/IMG_0818.jpg - Auto Pro 28mm f/2.8 PK, $25 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aVPX2tPj05c/UJk3do5b17I/ECU/hJ13VDR11i4/s1024/IMG_0819.jpg Very solidly built lens. Despite being a non-brand, it feels like a quality manual focus lens from Vivitar. - Cosina 28mm f/2.8 PK, $25 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-5zmOSroG-4w/UJk3d19F6_I/ECY/KuUptanEVz8/s1024/IMG_0820.jpg Focusing ring feels a little weird, like every Cosina lens I've ever owned (and I've owned a few), but otherwise it's fine. - Pentax-M 80-200mm f/4.5 #1(Boz's Version 1), $70 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-5_pSf8YbxEY/UJk3ZjK0z4I/EBU/6wGKnt50yjw/s1024/IMG_0807.jpg - Pentax-M 80-200mm f/4.5 #2 (Boz's Version 1), yes, I have two of these, $85 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-TrQpKRrRcj4/UJk3eHkrv_I/ECQ/X9BB9IYgfns/s1024/IMG_0821.jpg https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-3-_Eza_0m5Y/UJk3eiBCDLI/ECc/uLgswiF_-DU/s1024/IMG_0822.jpg Pull-out hood isn't very tight so slides down when lens held upright. - Vivitar 135mm f/2.5 M42 (manufactured by Tokina), $100 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ySKIClP4WAo/UJk3fKmlSFI/ECg/NOgbvTzouN8/s1024/IMG_0826.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-cHIHN15TxmA/UJk3e6VjJ5I/ECk/rq9OwJqY1qY/s1024/IMG_0823.jpg - Sigma CAT 400mm f/5.6, $120 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Fb8-51upyqU/UJk3gcjHp6I/ECw/9W9i3xQg8TU/s1024/IMG_0830.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-gmLdWEgdrXk/UJk3g8-P48I/EC4/nj7OUdXuIJ8/s1024/IMG_0832.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-TAWKOnMYcVg/UJk3hEmDYVI/EC8/c9p2QtnvkFI/s1024/IMG_0833.jpg As you can see in the 3rd photo, the filter holder is broken. This hasn't been an issue for me; the filter and holder still insert into the lens without problems and stay there. This is the second time I take the filter out since I purchased the lens because, really, who needs to use a yellow or red filter nowadays? Even an ND filter is superfluous if your camera can handle shutter speeds higher than 1/1000s. I couldn't find the hood at time of photographing, but I'm sure it's around here somewhere. Will knock the price down if I don't find the hood. - Albinar 135mm f/2.8 PK, free with purchase of another lens
RE: Sigma 35mm F1.4 DG HSM drops, but it's for Art use only
USB port that according to promo on dpreview.com will allow not just changing lens firmware but also things such as micro focus adjustment. What's the point of focus adjustment on the lens anyway? Unless it is for fine-tuning the distance scale on the lens itself, I would think it doesn't do anything. Focus is determined by the camera body, not the lens. Am I missing something here? kris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sigma 35mm F1.4 DG HSM drops, but it's for Art use only
Yep, I have a Sigma lens with a problematic chip, it can't focus correctly beyond f5, before f5 focus is perfect. On 9 November 2012 21:53, Krisjanis Linkevics krisjanis.linkev...@exigenservices.com wrote: USB port that according to promo on dpreview.com will allow not just changing lens firmware but also things such as micro focus adjustment. What's the point of focus adjustment on the lens anyway? Unless it is for fine-tuning the distance scale on the lens itself, I would think it doesn't do anything. Focus is determined by the camera body, not the lens. Am I missing something here? kris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sigma 35mm F1.4 DG HSM drops, but it's for Art use only
I have few friends who bought Sigma lenses that were not sharp on their cameras due to focus precision problems. We have rather good Sigma service and there the lenses were fine tuned to the cameras giving outstanding results in terms of AF precision. Now, I suppose, with the introduction of this new lens, the adjustment could be made by the user (for free, I would think) and at their leisure. Although I generally would prefer strict QC and lenses working accurately out of the box, this solution is second best, so that I needn't be going to the office for each lens I'd buy that might have this kind of problems. On 11/9/2012 12:53 PM, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote: USB port that according to promo on dpreview.com will allow not just changing lens firmware but also things such as micro focus adjustment. What's the point of focus adjustment on the lens anyway? Unless it is for fine-tuning the distance scale on the lens itself, I would think it doesn't do anything. Focus is determined by the camera body, not the lens. Am I missing something here? kris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sigma 35mm F1.4 DG HSM drops, but it's for Art use only
Bruce, I don't think that 35/1.4 for $900 is expensive. Canon equivalent costs 1.5 times this figure: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/162614-USA/Canon_2512A002_Wide_Angle_EF_35mm.html Nikon equivalent is even more expensive: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/735000-USA/Nikon_2198_AF_S_NIKKOR_35mm_f_1_4G.html Sony is somewhere between Canon and Nikon: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/463918-REG/Sony_SAL35F14G_SAL_35F14G_Wide_Angle_35mm.html So this is actually quite a bargain. On 11/8/2012 3:06 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: So for all those who were bemoaning the lack of a fast (1.4) normal prime on APS-C Pentax, be unbemoanful. http://www.pmda.com/2012/11/sigma-corporation-of-americas-35mm-f1-4-dg-hsm-now-available Almost more important is Sigma's new clever marketing angle for this very expensive ($900) bauble: they are creating new use-based lines for their lenses and this one is being labelled Art. As the first lens released under Sigma’s new Art line, it will feature a new matte finish and overall new design concept, which includes a clearly defined category label on every new lens. I for one cannot wait to see what gets released under the Decisive Moment line. Or what about the Undraped Women line? What if you try using a Landscape line lens for birds? Maybe a large red circle with a diagonal line appears in your viewfinder. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Early Snow
Thanks for looking, Bob! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 12:53 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Unbelievable Dan! On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: in my front yard this morning: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16579793 Comments are always appreciated. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A bridge too far ... er too low?
Great Video! Can't anyone down there read? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 3:53 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: I blame the truck makers B -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms Sent: 09 November 2012 02:36 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT: A bridge too far ... er too low? Someone sent me a YouTube link to a video about an old railroad bridge in Durham, NC where I grew up. I thought I'd share: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20MCxSFgrncfeature=share -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sigma 35mm F1.4 DG HSM drops, but it's for Art use only
Holy Mother of Pearl! Okay, I'm willing to revise my assertion, Boris. The Sigma 35/1.4 is expensive, and those other ones are just crazy expensive. On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Bruce, I don't think that 35/1.4 for $900 is expensive. Canon equivalent costs 1.5 times this figure: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/162614-USA/Canon_2512A002_Wide_Angle_EF_35mm.html Nikon equivalent is even more expensive: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/735000-USA/Nikon_2198_AF_S_NIKKOR_35mm_f_1_4G.html Sony is somewhere between Canon and Nikon: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/463918-REG/Sony_SAL35F14G_SAL_35F14G_Wide_Angle_35mm.html So this is actually quite a bargain. On 11/8/2012 3:06 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: So for all those who were bemoaning the lack of a fast (1.4) normal prime on APS-C Pentax, be unbemoanful. http://www.pmda.com/2012/11/sigma-corporation-of-americas-35mm-f1-4-dg-hsm-now-available Almost more important is Sigma's new clever marketing angle for this very expensive ($900) bauble: they are creating new use-based lines for their lenses and this one is being labelled Art. As the first lens released under Sigma’s new Art line, it will feature a new matte finish and overall new design concept, which includes a clearly defined category label on every new lens. I for one cannot wait to see what gets released under the Decisive Moment line. Or what about the Undraped Women line? What if you try using a Landscape line lens for birds? Maybe a large red circle with a diagonal line appears in your viewfinder. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sigma 35mm F1.4 DG HSM drops, but it's for Art use only
No. No. It's a Sigma, if you use it for the wrong subject matter, it will explode. On 11/7/2012 8:06 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: So for all those who were bemoaning the lack of a fast (1.4) normal prime on APS-C Pentax, be unbemoanful. http://www.pmda.com/2012/11/sigma-corporation-of-americas-35mm-f1-4-dg-hsm-now-available Almost more important is Sigma's new clever marketing angle for this very expensive ($900) bauble: they are creating new use-based lines for their lenses and this one is being labelled Art. As the first lens released under Sigma’s new Art line, it will feature a new matte finish and overall new design concept, which includes a clearly defined category label on every new lens. I for one cannot wait to see what gets released under the Decisive Moment line. Or what about the Undraped Women line? What if you try using a Landscape line lens for birds? Maybe a large red circle with a diagonal line appears in your viewfinder. -- -bmw -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Early Snow
It's too early for snow! Didn't you get hit with an early snow last year too? -p Sent from my iPad On Nov 9, 2012, at 7:41 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for looking, Bob! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 12:53 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Unbelievable Dan! On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: in my front yard this morning: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16579793 Comments are always appreciated. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Big Trees Down
Our tenant standing in front of the two large trees felled by Sandy at his house: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16580553 Comments are always appreciated. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Big Trees Down
Oooff. Sure screws up the shade on that little concrete patio. -p Sent from my iPad On Nov 9, 2012, at 8:49 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Our tenant standing in front of the two large trees felled by Sandy at his house: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16580553 Comments are always appreciated. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Photography in public places (again)
From: knarftheriault An officer in New Mexico tasered a ten year old for not cleaning his room: http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/11/02/lawsuit-filed-after-cop-tasered-10-year-old-student/ He was just fooling around it seems... Cop thought the taser was unloaded. If you know anything about guns, you know where that leads. Cop deserves to get sued. Deserves to lose his job to. Bad idea for cops to be fooling around with any kind of gun, even the supposedly non-lethal variety. They have to have a little more common sense than this guy shows, and set a better example. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Election Commentary
Remembering the secret of the bear, I find a small, easily concealable .22 pistol to be far more useful when hiking in grizzly bear country. Confronted by a grizzly, pull it out and shoot whoever you're hiking with in the knee, then run like hell! From: Stan Halpin Don't forget that real men have an AK-47 or equivalent in the woods with them, no mere grizzly would be an issue. stan Sent from my iPad On Nov 8, 2012, at 1:25 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah John, Scandinavia is for girly men. I want to live poor and die young, hopefully at the hands (paws?) of a grizzly bear in the woods (where I'm forced to live because I can't afford a house and there is no help from the government for scientists living below the poverty line). ?M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 8 November 2012 14:02, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: DagT I can agree with you there, being relatively conservative by Norwegians standards. One reason why republikanske are not very popular around here is that they usually don't seam to know much about the world outside the US. And in the previous election they used Skandinavia as an example of a system they didn't want :-) Just compare The US to Scandinavia ... Scandinavia = Denmark; Finland; Norway; Sweden (Numbers from OECD): Healthcare cost as percent of GDP: US 17.4% - Denmark 11.5%; Finland 9.2%; Norway 9.2% Sweden 10% Healthcare cost per capita: US $7,960 - Denmark $4,348; Finland $3,226; Norway $5,352; Sweden $3,722; Infant mortality (deaths per 1,000 live births before their first birthday): US 6.8 - Denmark 4.4; Finland 3.0; Norway 3.1; Sweden 2.4 Life expectancy at birth (Total Population): US 78.7 - Denmark 79.3; Finland 80.2; Norway 81.2; Sweden 81.5 Life expectancy at age 65 (Males): US 17.7 - Denmark 17.0; Finland 17.5; Norway 18.0; Sweden 18.2 Percentage of persons living with less than 50% of median equivalised household income: US 17.3% - Denmark 6.1%; Finland 7.9%; Norway 7.8%; Sweden 8.4% Easy to see why we wouldn't want anything like *THAT* for the U.S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: A bridge too far ... er too low?
From: Bob W I blame the truck makers B This captures about one or two month's worth ... My favorite from years before YouTube was an 18-wheeler that got stuck. The driver managed to stop before he actually hit the bridge, but it was too much bother to back it out and go around. The cops fire dept wrecker company got their heads together and figured out if they let enough air out of the 18-wheeler's tires they could get the height down to 11' 7-3/4, soap the top of the trailer and gently squeeze it through without tearing the top off. Got it half way before the next train came across the bridge. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: Election Commentary
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms Remembering the secret of the bear, I find a small, easily concealable .22 pistol to be far more useful when hiking in grizzly bear country. Confronted by a grizzly, pull it out and shoot whoever you're hiking with in the knee, then run like hell! I shall have to remember that. Especially if I'm hiking with you. B From: Stan Halpin Don't forget that real men have an AK-47 or equivalent in the woods with them, no mere grizzly would be an issue. stan Sent from my iPad On Nov 8, 2012, at 1:25 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah John, Scandinavia is for girly men. I want to live poor and die young, hopefully at the hands (paws?) of a grizzly bear in the woods (where I'm forced to live because I can't afford a house and there is no help from the government for scientists living below the poverty line). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Big Trees Down
Yes, indeed. The patio is actually quite large, about 12 feet by 16 feet. What is visible is a portion that was broken off by the root ball and moved to a vertical orienhtation. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com wrote: Oooff. Sure screws up the shade on that little concrete patio. -p Sent from my iPad On Nov 9, 2012, at 8:49 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Our tenant standing in front of the two large trees felled by Sandy at his house: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16580553 Comments are always appreciated. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Early Snow
Yes, last year we had a heavy snow on Hallowe'en (Oct 31), that damaged many of our trees. The leaves were still on the trees last year, which made the damage much worse. This year, Sandy took all the leaves off the trees before the Nor'easter brought the snow. Here is one of my images from the start of last year's storm: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14955252size=md Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com wrote: It's too early for snow! Didn't you get hit with an early snow last year too? -p Sent from my iPad On Nov 9, 2012, at 7:41 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for looking, Bob! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 12:53 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Unbelievable Dan! On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: in my front yard this morning: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16579793 Comments are always appreciated. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A bridge too far ... er too low?
From: Daniel J. Matyola Great Video! Can't anyone down there read? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 3:53 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: I blame the truck makers B Everybody in Durham knows about that bridge. It's been going on since I was a little kid. About once a week a truck driver from out of town will head down that street. I don't think reading is the problem; it's not remembering that your truck is 12' that get's 'em every time. Or not paying attention ... because it does occasionally still catch a local driver. They used to have a pipe hanging on chains across the street for the trucks to hit before they got to the bridge. But replacing it every week got too expensive. Trucks kept ripping it down and smashing it against the bridge. They replaced it with those flashing lights which are high enough the trucks don't normally hit them before they hit the bridge. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Big Trees Down
Dan, Always sad to see any trees down. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Our tenant standing in front of the two large trees felled by Sandy at his house: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16580553 Comments are always appreciated. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: A bridge too far ... er too low?
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms Everybody in Durham knows about that bridge. It's been going on since I was a little kid. About once a week a truck driver from out of town will head down that street. I don't think reading is the problem; it's not remembering that your truck is 12' that get's 'em every time. Or not paying attention ... because it does occasionally still catch a local driver. They used to have a pipe hanging on chains across the street for the trucks to hit before they got to the bridge. But replacing it every week got too expensive. Trucks kept ripping it down and smashing it against the bridge. They replaced it with those flashing lights which are high enough the trucks don't normally hit them before they hit the bridge. Perhaps they should consider lowering the road. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A bridge too far ... er too low?
Most of those didn't look like actual commercial rigs, the majority seemed to be campers and rentals. I'll bet most of the drivers were used to driving cars rather than tall trucks. On 11/9/2012 11:33 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Daniel J. Matyola Great Video! Can't anyone down there read? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 3:53 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: I blame the truck makers B Everybody in Durham knows about that bridge. It's been going on since I was a little kid. About once a week a truck driver from out of town will head down that street. I don't think reading is the problem; it's not remembering that your truck is 12' that get's 'em every time. Or not paying attention ... because it does occasionally still catch a local driver. They used to have a pipe hanging on chains across the street for the trucks to hit before they got to the bridge. But replacing it every week got too expensive. Trucks kept ripping it down and smashing it against the bridge. They replaced it with those flashing lights which are high enough the trucks don't normally hit them before they hit the bridge. -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Election Commentary
AK47 or the equivalent, unless it's fully automatic isn't good enough for a bear of any kind. Just not accurate enough, and the AR-15 derived competition isn't powerful enough. Really only good against varmints up to 200 pounds, with poor slope armor on their skulls. On 11/8/2012 11:03 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: Don't forget that real men have an AK-47 or equivalent in the woods with them, no mere grizzly would be an issue. stan Sent from my iPad On Nov 8, 2012, at 1:25 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah John, Scandinavia is for girly men. I want to live poor and die young, hopefully at the hands (paws?) of a grizzly bear in the woods (where I'm forced to live because I can't afford a house and there is no help from the government for scientists living below the poverty line). —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 8 November 2012 14:02, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: DagT I can agree with you there, being relatively conservative by Norwegians standards. One reason why republikanske are not very popular around here is that they usually don't seam to know much about the world outside the US. And in the previous election they used Skandinavia as an example of a system they didn't want :-) Just compare The US to Scandinavia ... Scandinavia = Denmark; Finland; Norway; Sweden (Numbers from OECD): Healthcare cost as percent of GDP: US 17.4% - Denmark 11.5%; Finland 9.2%; Norway 9.2% Sweden 10% Healthcare cost per capita: US $7,960 - Denmark $4,348; Finland $3,226; Norway $5,352; Sweden $3,722; Infant mortality (deaths per 1,000 live births before their first birthday): US 6.8 - Denmark 4.4; Finland 3.0; Norway 3.1; Sweden 2.4 Life expectancy at birth (Total Population): US 78.7 - Denmark 79.3; Finland 80.2; Norway 81.2; Sweden 81.5 Life expectancy at age 65 (Males): US 17.7 - Denmark 17.0; Finland 17.5; Norway 18.0; Sweden 18.2 Percentage of persons living with less than 50% of median equivalised household income: US 17.3% - Denmark 6.1%; Finland 7.9%; Norway 7.8%; Sweden 8.4% Easy to see why we wouldn't want anything like *THAT* for the U.S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photography in public places (again)
On 8 November 2012 14:20, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: I just discovered a fascinating column on the UK Gizmodo site. It's written by a London police office (under a pseudonym) about the day-to-day business of being a cop. Here's a story about dealing with an over-zealous mall cop who tries to hassle a photographer: http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2012/09/notes-from-the-frontline-mallcops/ That's a good one Mark thanks. I forwarded it to a couple of photographer colleagues at work, saying read on from the bit about handcuffs and peas - then realised how kinky that might sound to some... Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photography in public places (again)
Larry is already working peas and handcuffs into his next photo shoot... ;-) cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net Sent: November 9, 2012 11/9/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Photography in public places (again) On 8 November 2012 14:20, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: I just discovered a fascinating column on the UK Gizmodo site. It's written by a London police office (under a pseudonym) about the day-to-day business of being a cop. Here's a story about dealing with an over-zealous mall cop who tries to hassle a photographer: http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2012/09/notes-from-the-frontline-mallcops/ That's a good one Mark thanks. I forwarded it to a couple of photographer colleagues at work, saying read on from the bit about handcuffs and peas - then realised how kinky that might sound to some... Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photography in public places (again)
On Nov 9, 2012, at 11:20 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Larry is already working peas and handcuffs into his next photo shoot... You should know, you're the model. ;-) cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net Sent: November 9, 2012 11/9/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Photography in public places (again) On 8 November 2012 14:20, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: I just discovered a fascinating column on the UK Gizmodo site. It's written by a London police office (under a pseudonym) about the day-to-day business of being a cop. Here's a story about dealing with an over-zealous mall cop who tries to hassle a photographer: http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2012/09/notes-from-the-frontline-mallcops/ That's a good one Mark thanks. I forwarded it to a couple of photographer colleagues at work, saying read on from the bit about handcuffs and peas - then realised how kinky that might sound to some... Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photography in public places (again)
Peas n' Handcuffs would be a great name for a Gun n' Roses tribute band. On 11/9/2012 1:30 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Nov 9, 2012, at 11:20 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Larry is already working peas and handcuffs into his next photo shoot... You should know, you're the model. ;-) cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net Sent: November 9, 2012 11/9/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Photography in public places (again) On 8 November 2012 14:20, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: I just discovered a fascinating column on the UK Gizmodo site. It's written by a London police office (under a pseudonym) about the day-to-day business of being a cop. Here's a story about dealing with an over-zealous mall cop who tries to hassle a photographer: http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2012/09/notes-from-the-frontline-mallcops/ That's a good one Mark thanks. I forwarded it to a couple of photographer colleagues at work, saying read on from the bit about handcuffs and peas - then realised how kinky that might sound to some... Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Selling a number of items
Slowly falling under the spell of mirrorless, huh Boris? :-) —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 9 November 2012 00:04, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Here are few items for sale (in no specific order): 1. Carl Zeiss Jena MC Flektogon 50/4 with Tilt Adapter. Asking USD 350. 2. Starblitz 360 DTZ multi-system flash. Asking USD 30 3. Metz 40MZ-2 + 3701 and 372 SCA modules. Asking USD 70. 4. Pentax SMC FA 20/2.8. Asking USD 700. All prices include shipping and PayPal fees. Lenses will be shipped by EMS insured at full value. If you agree for untracked less expensive shipping - the prices will be lower accordingly. Soon to come - one of my two K-5, DA* 16-50/2.8, and may be FA 50/1.4 and FA 100/3.5 macro. If you're interested, please inquire off-list. All your questions will be answered. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Big Trees Down
Especially trees of that size. The smaller of the two trees in that image is one my son planted, with my assistance, when he was in the 4H. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Dan, Always sad to see any trees down. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Our tenant standing in front of the two large trees felled by Sandy at his house: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16580553 Comments are always appreciated. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Big Trees Down
Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Especially trees of that size. The smaller of the two trees in that image is one my son planted, with my assistance, when he was in the 4H. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Dan, Always sad to see any trees down. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Our tenant standing in front of the two large trees felled by Sandy at his house: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16580553 Comments are always appreciated. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A bridge too far ... er too low?
I liked the 2 pickups with the bales of hay. The first one loses the top row of bales and the second guy thinks, meh, it's just hay, I'm gonna just drive through cos I don't give a crap. :-D Cheers, —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 9 November 2012 08:48, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Great Video! Can't anyone down there read? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 3:53 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: I blame the truck makers B -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms Sent: 09 November 2012 02:36 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT: A bridge too far ... er too low? Someone sent me a YouTube link to a video about an old railroad bridge in Durham, NC where I grew up. I thought I'd share: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20MCxSFgrncfeature=share -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FSF: Bucket full of lenses (and a camera)
Jaume, At some point in my life, during the heydey of my LBA, I decided to test as many classic 28mm lenses as I could and write a massive comparison review. Along the way I learnt a few things: 1) There's no such thing as a terrible 28mm lens. 2) Nobody gives a crap. In light of this, I never wrote the review, and here are some of those 28mm lenses for sale. —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 9 November 2012 05:51, Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com wrote: Wow Miserere, Are you going to sell the most complete set of 28mm manual focus K-mount lenses ever collected? Damn crisis ;-) Regards, Jaume - Mensaje original - De: Miserere miser...@gmail.com Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net CC: Enviado: Viernes 9 de noviembre de 2012 2:00 Asunto: FSF: Bucket full of lenses (and a camera) G #39;morning everyone (hey, it's Friday in Europe!), Doing some Spring Cleaning in my lens closet. I'm either really late, or really early, I'm not sure, but here are the lenses being offered to you lovely ladies and gentlemen of the PDML (Please Deliver Miserere's Lenses). Unless otherwise stated, lenses come with whatever's shown in the photo. Lenses are in good-to-excellent condition, and the photo(s) should let you figure out which exactly it is. Stupidly long image URLs courtesy of Picasa. Shipping: - USA: $5 via USPS Priority; 2 or more lenses: $10. - Foreigners: Will have to ask for quotes. The Stuff: - Pentax PZ-10 camera body, $10 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6MljbJdZwFw/UJk3fkkj6xI/EC0/jhemDNX41QE/s1024/IMG_0827.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-s7TiXAhinzU/UJk3fs-FGOI/ECo/SitUsQNuKnE/s1024/IMG_0828.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-bJQ44gPVn0g/UJk3gF8OZ6I/ECs/JPsOWkzy-KI/s1024/IMG_0829.jpg - Vivitar 28mm f/2 PKA (manufactured by Komine), $180 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UIx5nZS1JQQ/UJk3Zty_PRI/EBc/n_c2-Rz0S6c/s1024/IMG_0808.jpg - Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, $85 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-pqisjRvaSd8/UJk3Z-CMdRI/EBY/CnQ6K9vu57w/s1024/IMG_0809.jpg - Vivitar 28mm f/2 PK (manufactured by Kiron), $55 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kR8ItweAm_E/UJk3aeQEYxI/EBs/NE1uwdXc2WA/s1024/IMG_0810.jpg Blades stuck wide open. I expect someone with a jeweller's screwdriver and a bit of acetone should get this working again. I haven't found the time to try fixing it. - Tokina 28-70mm f/2.8-4.3 PKA, $50 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-zE2tdWy4eJs/UJk3aoEc_5I/EBk/GhO5Zz2ACjk/s1024/IMG_0811.jpg - Sigma 70-210mm f/4.5 PK, $40 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-9tONJjvEEdM/UJk3a9PftJI/EBo/xYrUSrNf2wA/s1024/IMG_0812.jpg - Soligor 80-200mm f/4.5 PK, $40 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-koZxhzrPQdc/UJk3b1Jd95I/EB4/BrYRKwBZtco/s1024/IMG_0813.jpg https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-a0MQEE94m24/UJk3cM788AI/ECE/fuFuoQD2_Zo/s1024/IMG_0814.jpg - Tokina 28mm f/2.8 PKA, $45 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-hb67hp7F6zs/UJk3ddpHq2I/ECI/mXHC9RM1PnU/s1024/IMG_0818.jpg - Auto Pro 28mm f/2.8 PK, $25 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aVPX2tPj05c/UJk3do5b17I/ECU/hJ13VDR11i4/s1024/IMG_0819.jpg Very solidly built lens. Despite being a non-brand, it feels like a quality manual focus lens from Vivitar. - Cosina 28mm f/2.8 PK, $25 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-5zmOSroG-4w/UJk3d19F6_I/ECY/KuUptanEVz8/s1024/IMG_0820.jpg Focusing ring feels a little weird, like every Cosina lens I've ever owned (and I've owned a few), but otherwise it's fine. - Pentax-M 80-200mm f/4.5 #1(Boz's Version 1), $70 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-5_pSf8YbxEY/UJk3ZjK0z4I/EBU/6wGKnt50yjw/s1024/IMG_0807.jpg - Pentax-M 80-200mm f/4.5 #2 (Boz's Version 1), yes, I have two of these, $85 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-TrQpKRrRcj4/UJk3eHkrv_I/ECQ/X9BB9IYgfns/s1024/IMG_0821.jpg https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-3-_Eza_0m5Y/UJk3eiBCDLI/ECc/uLgswiF_-DU/s1024/IMG_0822.jpg Pull-out hood isn't very tight so slides down when lens held upright. - Vivitar 135mm f/2.5 M42 (manufactured by Tokina), $100 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ySKIClP4WAo/UJk3fKmlSFI/ECg/NOgbvTzouN8/s1024/IMG_0826.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-cHIHN15TxmA/UJk3e6VjJ5I/ECk/rq9OwJqY1qY/s1024/IMG_0823.jpg - Sigma CAT 400mm f/5.6, $120 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Fb8-51upyqU/UJk3gcjHp6I/ECw/9W9i3xQg8TU/s1024/IMG_0830.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-gmLdWEgdrXk/UJk3g8-P48I/EC4/nj7OUdXuIJ8/s1024/IMG_0832.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-TAWKOnMYcVg/UJk3hEmDYVI/EC8/c9p2QtnvkFI/s1024/IMG_0833.jpg As you can see in the 3rd photo, the filter holder is broken. This hasn't been an issue for me; the filter and holder still insert into the lens without problems and stay there. This
Re: A bridge too far ... er too low?
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: I liked the 2 pickups with the bales of hay. The first one loses the top row of bales and the second guy thinks, meh, it's just hay, I'm gonna just drive through cos I don't give a crap. :-D I guess he didn't mind that he was going to give a crop. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: A bridge too far ... er too low?
From: Bob W From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms Everybody in Durham knows about that bridge. It's been going on since I was a little kid. About once a week a truck driver from out of town will head down that street. I don't think reading is the problem; it's not remembering that your truck is 12' that get's 'em every time. Or not paying attention ... because it does occasionally still catch a local driver. They used to have a pipe hanging on chains across the street for the trucks to hit before they got to the bridge. But replacing it every week got too expensive. Trucks kept ripping it down and smashing it against the bridge. They replaced it with those flashing lights which are high enough the trucks don't normally hit them before they hit the bridge. Perhaps they should consider lowering the road. I think that was proposed at one time, but they found some reason (beyond how much it was going to cost) why they couldn't do it. Replacing it with a higher bridge would require changing the railroad grade replacing several other bridges as well. As many times as the bridge has been hit, I don't remember that they ever had to close the railroad tracks. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FSF: Bucket full of lenses (and a camera)
I have collected 28mm nor written a review. But I CAN tell that the Komine below is a mighty fine lens. If you're looking for a affordable fast manual focus auto 28mm, then that's the one. It is sharp (if you add a bit extra contrast in PP), well built, and focuses rather close for a wide angle lens. -- MaritimTim My private photo blog: http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ My photo class blog: http://z-fotokurs.blogspot.com/ To err is human to arr is pirate 2012/11/9 Miserere miser...@gmail.com: Jaume, At some point in my life, during the heydey of my LBA, I decided to test as many classic 28mm lenses as I could and write a massive comparison review. Along the way I learnt a few things: 1) There's no such thing as a terrible 28mm lens. 2) Nobody gives a crap. In light of this, I never wrote the review, and here are some of those 28mm lenses for sale. —M. - Vivitar 28mm f/2 PKA (manufactured by Komine), $180 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UIx5nZS1JQQ/UJk3Zty_PRI/EBc/n_c2-Rz0S6c/s1024/IMG_0808.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - 'Inside Passage Sunrise'
Ken: I just saw your Inside Passage Sunrise on the PPG, and voted for it of course, as it is among my favorites of the images posted to PDML This month. There were also two very nice images of whales, one of the Hopkins Glacier, and one of a seal. I assume those were yours as well, from you Alaskan trip. Great images, all of them, but Sunrise is my favorite. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 2:58 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Yet another reason to get up early. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16569214 Taken from a small ship in the Inside Passage in Alaska, near Glacier Bay. Comments appreciated - thanks in advance. K20D, 28-80 f3.5-4.5 F, 400 ISO Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A bridge too far ... er too low?
I liked the 2 pickups with the bales of hay. The first one loses the top row of bales and the second guy thinks, meh, it's just hay, I'm gonna just drive through cos I don't give a crap. :-D I guess he didn't mind that he was going to give a crop. Look before you reap. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - 'Inside Passage Sunrise'
ThankS Dan. Yep, I just uploaded 5 more images from my Alaska trip. They've had great reception both on the PPG the PDML. Just finished converting all the trip images - a little over 1000 images - from the RAW captures, so there are many more to come. -Original Message- From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO - 'Inside Passage Sunrise' Ken: I just saw your Inside Passage Sunrise on the PPG, and voted for it of course, as it is among my favorites of the images posted to PDML This month. There were also two very nice images of whales, one of the Hopkins Glacier, and one of a seal. I assume those were yours as well, from you Alaskan trip. Great images, all of them, but Sunrise is my favorite. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 2:58 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Yet another reason to get up early. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16569214 Taken from a small ship in the Inside Passage in Alaska, near Glacier Bay. Comments appreciated - thanks in advance. K20D, 28-80 f3.5-4.5 F, 400 ISO Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - 'Inside Passage Sunrise'
I look forward to seeing the rest of the images from your trip! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: ThankS Dan. Yep, I just uploaded 5 more images from my Alaska trip. They've had great reception both on the PPG the PDML. Just finished converting all the trip images - a little over 1000 images - from the RAW captures, so there are many more to come. -Original Message- From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO - 'Inside Passage Sunrise' Ken: I just saw your Inside Passage Sunrise on the PPG, and voted for it of course, as it is among my favorites of the images posted to PDML This month. There were also two very nice images of whales, one of the Hopkins Glacier, and one of a seal. I assume those were yours as well, from you Alaskan trip. Great images, all of them, but Sunrise is my favorite. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 2:58 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Yet another reason to get up early. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16569214 Taken from a small ship in the Inside Passage in Alaska, near Glacier Bay. Comments appreciated - thanks in advance. K20D, 28-80 f3.5-4.5 F, 400 ISO Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A bridge too far ... er too low?
He became a turkey in the straw. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 5:57 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: I liked the 2 pickups with the bales of hay. The first one loses the top row of bales and the second guy thinks, meh, it's just hay, I'm gonna just drive through cos I don't give a crap. :-D I guess he didn't mind that he was going to give a crop. Look before you reap. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A bridge too far ... er too low?
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - Subject: Re: A bridge too far ... er too low? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 5:57 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: I liked the 2 pickups with the bales of hay. The first one loses the top row of bales and the second guy thinks, meh, it's just hay, I'm gonna just drive through cos I don't give a crap. :-D I guess he didn't mind that he was going to give a crop. Look before you reap. He became a turkey in the straw. Yeah, he really should have baled. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Airshow
All of those look great to me - excellent work! Mark On 10/18/2012 5:30 PM, SV Hovland wrote: Taken at Sola airport this summer at its 75 year anniversary. It was the second airport in Europe with concrete runway. The first one is the picture I like most. https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=2D01AE85E70E90E2!75497authkey=!ALgT7ZH7mJ2tWXM https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=2D01AE85E70E90E2!75498authkey=!ABgLyRlXfLkBLlM https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=2D01AE85E70E90E2!75499authkey=!ALhBymtZXdw6yqM https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=2D01AE85E70E90E2!75500authkey=!AIoiLSitvETPE_Q Stig Vidar Hovland -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: A bridge too far ... er too low?
There is a very similar bridge on Onondaga Lake Parkway in Syracuse, NY. All sorts of warning signs, flashing lights and they still hit it. I recall driving past a truck that spilled orange juice on the road and about a week later another that spilled alcohol. I wonder if they were trying to make screwdrivers? Four people died when a bus hit the bridge, and the driver wanted to blame it on too many warning signs...? NY state has now banned commercial traffic on the road. We'll see how many can miss that sign too. jm -Original Message- From: John Sessoms Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 9:36 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT: A bridge too far ... er too low? Someone sent me a YouTube link to a video about an old railroad bridge in Durham, NC where I grew up. I thought I'd share: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20MCxSFgrncfeature=share -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Airshow
All superb, great timing on your part, thoughtful composition and interesting post processing. Cheers, Rob On 19 October 2012 08:30, SV Hovland pdml...@heime.org wrote: Taken at Sola airport this summer at its 75 year anniversary. It was the second airport in Europe with concrete runway. The first one is the picture I like most. https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=2D01AE85E70E90E2!75497authkey=!ALgT7ZH7mJ2tWXM https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=2D01AE85E70E90E2!75498authkey=!ABgLyRlXfLkBLlM https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=2D01AE85E70E90E2!75499authkey=!ALhBymtZXdw6yqM https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=2D01AE85E70E90E2!75500authkey=!AIoiLSitvETPE_Q Stig Vidar Hovland -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Noise purple-fringing can be the least of your problems...
That is a lovely photo, Darren. I'm so sorry to learn of your loss - my deepest condolences to you and your family. Mark On 10/10/2012 6:12 PM, Darren Addy wrote: I hope you'll indulge me sharing with you a very pedestrian image. I tripped across it today, while moving some files between computers. http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/8075200561/in/photostream/ The young lady on the left is my daughter, Raven, and her husband, to the right, is now a widower and single parent of their child who will be 2-years-old in May. She was killed in a car accident this past June, and finding this particular image today hit me pretty hard. The accident happened just a month short of their 5-year anniversary. I guess it is a reminder of how even the most technically flawed of images can still be priceless, and it is also a reminder to keep all things in a proper perspective. Those of you that are parents, give your kids a big hug a kiss the next time you see them (and every time after that). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Pixel-peeping madness
DPR has samples so you can do close-in comparison... here are the K-5, the K-5 II, and K-5 IIs doing ISO6400 RAW. The IIs may have big advantages, but they're sure not on display here. Zero in on anything that has intense red saturation; I was surprised by what I saw. Having said that, I totally disapprove of pixel-peeping. Anyhow, that's my story and I’m sticking to it. -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Pixel-peeping madness
link? - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Tim Bray Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 10:54 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Pixel-peeping madness DPR has samples so you can do close-in comparison... here are the K-5, the K-5 II, and K-5 IIs doing ISO6400 RAW. The IIs may have big advantages, but they're sure not on display here. Zero in on anything that has intense red saturation; I was surprised by what I saw. Having said that, I totally disapprove of pixel-peeping. Anyhow, that's my story and I'm sticking to it. -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pixel-peeping madness
Aaand, once again: http://goo.gl/YY2rt On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 7:56 PM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: link? - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Tim Bray Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 10:54 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Pixel-peeping madness DPR has samples so you can do close-in comparison... here are the K-5, the K-5 II, and K-5 IIs doing ISO6400 RAW. The IIs may have big advantages, but they're sure not on display here. Zero in on anything that has intense red saturation; I was surprised by what I saw. Having said that, I totally disapprove of pixel-peeping. Anyhow, that's my story and I'm sticking to it. -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Election Commentary
Damn we’re a cheery bunch. On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 9:06 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: AK47 or the equivalent, unless it's fully automatic isn't good enough for a bear of any kind. Just not accurate enough, and the AR-15 derived competition isn't powerful enough. Really only good against varmints up to 200 pounds, with poor slope armor on their skulls. On 11/8/2012 11:03 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: Don't forget that real men have an AK-47 or equivalent in the woods with them, no mere grizzly would be an issue. stan Sent from my iPad On Nov 8, 2012, at 1:25 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah John, Scandinavia is for girly men. I want to live poor and die young, hopefully at the hands (paws?) of a grizzly bear in the woods (where I'm forced to live because I can't afford a house and there is no help from the government for scientists living below the poverty line). —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 8 November 2012 14:02, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: DagT I can agree with you there, being relatively conservative by Norwegians standards. One reason why republikanske are not very popular around here is that they usually don't seam to know much about the world outside the US. And in the previous election they used Skandinavia as an example of a system they didn't want :-) Just compare The US to Scandinavia ... Scandinavia = Denmark; Finland; Norway; Sweden (Numbers from OECD): Healthcare cost as percent of GDP: US 17.4% - Denmark 11.5%; Finland 9.2%; Norway 9.2% Sweden 10% Healthcare cost per capita: US $7,960 - Denmark $4,348; Finland $3,226; Norway $5,352; Sweden $3,722; Infant mortality (deaths per 1,000 live births before their first birthday): US 6.8 - Denmark 4.4; Finland 3.0; Norway 3.1; Sweden 2.4 Life expectancy at birth (Total Population): US 78.7 - Denmark 79.3; Finland 80.2; Norway 81.2; Sweden 81.5 Life expectancy at age 65 (Males): US 17.7 - Denmark 17.0; Finland 17.5; Norway 18.0; Sweden 18.2 Percentage of persons living with less than 50% of median equivalised household income: US 17.3% - Denmark 6.1%; Finland 7.9%; Norway 7.8%; Sweden 8.4% Easy to see why we wouldn't want anything like *THAT* for the U.S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Pixel-peeping madness - something smells
something is fishy. compare the k5 to the k5II both set to iso200 and look at the face of the wristwatch. the hour markers look completely different and these two cameras are supposed to have same image quality. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Tim Bray Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 1:06 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pixel-peeping madness Aaand, once again: http://goo.gl/YY2rt On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 7:56 PM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: link? - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Tim Bray Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 10:54 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Pixel-peeping madness DPR has samples so you can do close-in comparison... here are the K-5, the K-5 II, and K-5 IIs doing ISO6400 RAW. The IIs may have big advantages, but they're sure not on display here. Zero in on anything that has intense red saturation; I was surprised by what I saw. Having said that, I totally disapprove of pixel-peeping. Anyhow, that's my story and I'm sticking to it. -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pixel-peeping madness - something smells
Hmmm... looks like a rather different focus plane shows up there. Just compare the playing card on the background (K-5 is better) and the wrist watch on the forefront (K-5 is worse). Dario -Messaggio originale- From: J.C. O'Connell Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 7:38 AM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Pixel-peeping madness - something smells something is fishy. compare the k5 to the k5II both set to iso200 and look at the face of the wristwatch. the hour markers look completely different and these two cameras are supposed to have same image quality. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Tim Bray Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 1:06 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pixel-peeping madness Aaand, once again: http://goo.gl/YY2rt On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 7:56 PM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: link? - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Tim Bray Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 10:54 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Pixel-peeping madness DPR has samples so you can do close-in comparison... here are the K-5, the K-5 II, and K-5 IIs doing ISO6400 RAW. The IIs may have big advantages, but they're sure not on display here. Zero in on anything that has intense red saturation; I was surprised by what I saw. Having said that, I totally disapprove of pixel-peeping. Anyhow, that's my story and I'm sticking to it. -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Nessun virus nel messaggio. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 2012.0.2221 / Database dei virus: 2441/5384 - Data di rilascio: 09/11/2012 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Pixel-peeping madness - something smells
they must be using AF... - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Dario Bonazza Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 2:17 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pixel-peeping madness - something smells Hmmm... looks like a rather different focus plane shows up there. Just compare the playing card on the background (K-5 is better) and the wrist watch on the forefront (K-5 is worse). Dario -Messaggio originale- From: J.C. O'Connell Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 7:38 AM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Pixel-peeping madness - something smells something is fishy. compare the k5 to the k5II both set to iso200 and look at the face of the wristwatch. the hour markers look completely different and these two cameras are supposed to have same image quality. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Tim Bray Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 1:06 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pixel-peeping madness Aaand, once again: http://goo.gl/YY2rt On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 7:56 PM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: link? - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Tim Bray Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 10:54 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Pixel-peeping madness DPR has samples so you can do close-in comparison... here are the K-5, the K-5 II, and K-5 IIs doing ISO6400 RAW. The IIs may have big advantages, but they're sure not on display here. Zero in on anything that has intense red saturation; I was surprised by what I saw. Having said that, I totally disapprove of pixel-peeping. Anyhow, that's my story and I'm sticking to it. -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Nessun virus nel messaggio. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 2012.0.2221 / Database dei virus: 2441/5384 - Data di rilascio: 09/11/2012 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pixel-peeping madness - something smells
I meant foreground, of course... -Messaggio originale- From: Dario Bonazza Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 8:16 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pixel-peeping madness - something smells Hmmm... looks like a rather different focus plane shows up there. Just compare the playing card on the background (K-5 is better) and the wrist watch on the forefront (K-5 is worse). Dario -Messaggio originale- From: J.C. O'Connell Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 7:38 AM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Pixel-peeping madness - something smells something is fishy. compare the k5 to the k5II both set to iso200 and look at the face of the wristwatch. the hour markers look completely different and these two cameras are supposed to have same image quality. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Tim Bray Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 1:06 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pixel-peeping madness Aaand, once again: http://goo.gl/YY2rt On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 7:56 PM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: link? - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Tim Bray Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 10:54 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Pixel-peeping madness DPR has samples so you can do close-in comparison... here are the K-5, the K-5 II, and K-5 IIs doing ISO6400 RAW. The IIs may have big advantages, but they're sure not on display here. Zero in on anything that has intense red saturation; I was surprised by what I saw. Having said that, I totally disapprove of pixel-peeping. Anyhow, that's my story and I'm sticking to it. -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Nessun virus nel messaggio. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 2012.0.2221 / Database dei virus: 2441/5384 - Data di rilascio: 09/11/2012 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Nessun virus nel messaggio. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 2012.0.2221 / Database dei virus: 2441/5384 - Data di rilascio: 09/11/2012 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
