Re: PESO - Anticipation
Norman Rockwell! Lovely shot. B On 6 Aug 2014, at 03:42, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: The annual fun fair showed up in our neighbourhood last weekend. A few interesting shots to be had: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2014/08/anticipation.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: August PUG is up!
Thanks Darren, On Tue, 5 Aug 2014 09:30:32 -0500 Darren Addy wrote: Also liked Jan's Premium. Looked like some cross-processing that worked well with the subject. Digital manipulation only :) I did tone down the yellow garbage can a bit, it was drawing to much attention, and enhanced the contrast and saturation a bit. It was an heavily overcast day, with rain-showers once and again, but it is a nice place to wander around for a few hours :) Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com Flickr : jvw_pentax -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Anticipation
Beautifully times and extremely well caught, Knarf! J - Original Message - From: knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 7:41:58 PM Subject: PESO - Anticipation The annual fun fair showed up in our neighbourhood last weekend. A few interesting shots to be had: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2014/08/anticipation.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: August PUG is up!
excellent gallery this month Dave On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: G'day all The largest gallery for some time, I think. It seems like decrepitude is a theme close to our collective hearts. There were no self portraits, which was a bit of a surprise... Some personal favs: Matthew's 'Have Faith' - really nice colour and texture there. Dan's 'Whitehouse Diner' - are these diners a uniquely American institution? Henk's 'Vredeheim' - showing the instant of cessation of decrepitude. Jan's 'Premium' - would have loved to have visited that site when I was in the area in 2013. As usual, you'll find the gallery here: http://pug.komkon.org/ (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there). Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery, let me know. + Next up is a bit of a challenge - 'Random Exhibition Title Generator'. When this was suggested, several of you commented that it could be fun. It should be, but I don't think this theme can be left until the last minute. Expect some nagging... Basically you go to this site: http://www.mit.edu/~ruchill/lazycurator.html Cycle through the 'Curate Me' button until you find a title that fits an image you can make (or have buried in your archives). Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/ Submission Guidelines here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html The main requirements are: * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels * Max file size: 300k * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or lens used is Pentax. * If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure that the image is displayed correctly on line. * Nominal closing date: 30 September. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO watch the birdie
Took a trip down to Bronte Harbour in Oakville on Monday to catch a new musician friend doing a solo matinee gig at a vegan cafe. I was lining up for a candid shot of his girlfriend Katie when my wife cried out, oh look, there's a Buteo up there. I took a quick look to verify it was a Red Tailed Hawk then turned back to grab this portrait. http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/image/93969169352 K-3, DA* 55/1.4, f:3.2, 1/250th, ISO 1600. Comments welcome! -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Sort of fascinated by what Sony has done with the a7s
I'm sorry, I don't see how using a different word changes anything. Averaging together more noisy measurements vs. fewer less noisy measurements can indeed lead to the same result. On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: That's what happens when they use the wrong term. Sensors don't have pixels, they have photosites. Replace the term 'pixels' with 'photosites' and what they say makes good sense. Photosites aggregate through processing to become picture elements—pixels. Lower sensor noise as in better SNR from the photosite array does indeed lead to cleaner results in the pixel aggregate at the end of the processing chain. Godfrey On Aug 5, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Bryan Jacoby bryan.jac...@gmail.com wrote: The larger pixel size means that each pixel can collect physically more light. The more light per pixel, the better the signal to noise ratio for that pixel and so that pixel will more accurately detect the incoming light than a smaller pixel would. I think this idea of bigger/fewer pixels leading directly, as in through the very basic physics of photon noise, to lower noise is wrong-headed. I couldn't care less what the signal-to-noise ratio of _pixels in my sensor_ is. What I care about is the SNR of pixels in the output image, whether that be an image displayed on a screen or the dots made by a printer. A camera with more pixels will have more of those pixels averaged together in each pixel of a given final output image, and it all comes out in the wash. This is not to say that all sensors are equal. Just that the amount of light collected by each pixel of the sensor isn't what matters. (Darren, I am ranting at petapixel, not you. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Sort of fascinated by what Sony has done with the a7s
It's all about photon counting statistics a.k.a. Poisson statistics a.k.a. shot noise: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shot_noise If we ignore the mysteriuos details of de-Bayering (let's pretend all cameras are like the Leica M Monochrom), and that we are in a situation where photon counting statistics are the dominant source of noise (which is what we should be talking about, since we are concerned with the fundamental question of noise in more vs. fewer pixels, not other noise sources that will vary from one sensor design to another), then all that matters is how many photons end up each pixel of the final output image. Consider this simple case: you want to order an 8 x 12 print from Mpix, which they will print at 250 dpi, for a final output image with 6 MP, and we don't do any noise reduction. If you take the image with a 6 MP sensor (kind of like a K100D Monochrom, but with a modern sensor), each sensor pixel/photosite will translate directly to an output pixel, so input or sensor image noise = final image noise. If you take it with a 24 MP sensor (K-3 Monochrom), each photosite will on average get 1/4 as many photons as the K100D's photosites. Poisson statistics tell us that the noise goes as the square root of the number of photons, so each of these pixels will have a signal-to-noise ratio (SNR) that's only half of the SNR of the K-3 pixels. But when you average together groups of 4 pixels from the K-3, the SNR of the aggregated pixels will increase by the square root of 4, which is 2. 1/2 * 2 = 1; like I said it all comes out in the wash. On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 5:38 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2014-08-05 13:50 Bryan Jacoby wrote I think this idea of bigger/fewer pixels leading directly, as in through the very basic physics of photon noise, to lower noise is wrong-headed.I couldn't care less what the signal-to-noise ratio of _pixels in my sensor_ is. What I care about is the SNR of pixels in the output image, whether that be an image displayed on a screen or the dots made by a printer. i have pondered this too, and i suppose the question is whether one could average the pixels on a 24 Mp sensor to get as clean a 12 Mp image as from a 12 Mp sensor; i suspect there are multiple factors beyond the number of photons hitting a photosite that make the relationship non-linear (so that lower Mp would net lower noise even after averaging) but since in general we'd expect the 24 Mp sensor, in bright enough light, to capture much more detail with a comfortably low noise floor, i think we have to choose between low-ISO detail and high-ISO SNR -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO watch the birdie
That's a very fine Buteo specimen! Fine image as well; full of life. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Took a trip down to Bronte Harbour in Oakville on Monday to catch a new musician friend doing a solo matinee gig at a vegan cafe. I was lining up for a candid shot of his girlfriend Katie when my wife cried out, oh look, there's a Buteo up there. I took a quick look to verify it was a Red Tailed Hawk then turned back to grab this portrait. http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/image/93969169352 K-3, DA* 55/1.4, f:3.2, 1/250th, ISO 1600. Comments welcome! -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Sort of fascinated by what Sony has done with the a7s
That's not factoring in read noise, processing and quite a few other variables. My take is that the K-5 series produces cleaner files out of the box at any ISO. How much I can push shadows without seeing noise is of great interest to me. I feel that you can likely get files from the K-3 with equal noise characteristics with post processing, but honestly, side by side jpegs out of the camera reduced to web resolution show more noise from the k-3. Also you have to factor in the resolution loss when the k-5 hits over 1600. Its clearly doing some NR wizardry in its pipeline and reducing the resolution somewhat. How much the K-3 does that I do not know, but have read that it does something similar. On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Bryan Jacoby bryan.jac...@gmail.com wrote: It's all about photon counting statistics a.k.a. Poisson statistics a.k.a. shot noise: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shot_noise If we ignore the mysteriuos details of de-Bayering (let's pretend all cameras are like the Leica M Monochrom), and that we are in a situation where photon counting statistics are the dominant source of noise (which is what we should be talking about, since we are concerned with the fundamental question of noise in more vs. fewer pixels, not other noise sources that will vary from one sensor design to another), then all that matters is how many photons end up each pixel of the final output image. Consider this simple case: you want to order an 8 x 12 print from Mpix, which they will print at 250 dpi, for a final output image with 6 MP, and we don't do any noise reduction. If you take the image with a 6 MP sensor (kind of like a K100D Monochrom, but with a modern sensor), each sensor pixel/photosite will translate directly to an output pixel, so input or sensor image noise = final image noise. If you take it with a 24 MP sensor (K-3 Monochrom), each photosite will on average get 1/4 as many photons as the K100D's photosites. Poisson statistics tell us that the noise goes as the square root of the number of photons, so each of these pixels will have a signal-to-noise ratio (SNR) that's only half of the SNR of the K-3 pixels. But when you average together groups of 4 pixels from the K-3, the SNR of the aggregated pixels will increase by the square root of 4, which is 2. 1/2 * 2 = 1; like I said it all comes out in the wash. On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 5:38 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2014-08-05 13:50 Bryan Jacoby wrote I think this idea of bigger/fewer pixels leading directly, as in through the very basic physics of photon noise, to lower noise is wrong-headed.I couldn't care less what the signal-to-noise ratio of _pixels in my sensor_ is. What I care about is the SNR of pixels in the output image, whether that be an image displayed on a screen or the dots made by a printer. i have pondered this too, and i suppose the question is whether one could average the pixels on a 24 Mp sensor to get as clean a 12 Mp image as from a 12 Mp sensor; i suspect there are multiple factors beyond the number of photons hitting a photosite that make the relationship non-linear (so that lower Mp would net lower noise even after averaging) but since in general we'd expect the 24 Mp sensor, in bright enough light, to capture much more detail with a comfortably low noise floor, i think we have to choose between low-ISO detail and high-ISO SNR -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Sort of fascinated by what Sony has done with the a7s
I don't claim to know if the K-3 is or is not more noisy than the K-5. I'm just talking about the fundamental question of noise in more vs. fewer pixels. Read noise, etc., is a whole other ball of wax, but photon statistics is the one thing that you can't get away from with ever-improving technology. Throw different in-camera jpeg engines into the mix and really this is a comparison not worth making, if you want a basic understanding of how pixel count relates to noise. I remember in the original glowing DXO reviews of the K-5 they mentioned that some noise reduction is applied even to RAW files at high ISO. On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: That's not factoring in read noise, processing and quite a few other variables. My take is that the K-5 series produces cleaner files out of the box at any ISO. How much I can push shadows without seeing noise is of great interest to me. I feel that you can likely get files from the K-3 with equal noise characteristics with post processing, but honestly, side by side jpegs out of the camera reduced to web resolution show more noise from the k-3. Also you have to factor in the resolution loss when the k-5 hits over 1600. Its clearly doing some NR wizardry in its pipeline and reducing the resolution somewhat. How much the K-3 does that I do not know, but have read that it does something similar. On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Bryan Jacoby bryan.jac...@gmail.com wrote: It's all about photon counting statistics a.k.a. Poisson statistics a.k.a. shot noise: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shot_noise If we ignore the mysteriuos details of de-Bayering (let's pretend all cameras are like the Leica M Monochrom), and that we are in a situation where photon counting statistics are the dominant source of noise (which is what we should be talking about, since we are concerned with the fundamental question of noise in more vs. fewer pixels, not other noise sources that will vary from one sensor design to another), then all that matters is how many photons end up each pixel of the final output image. Consider this simple case: you want to order an 8 x 12 print from Mpix, which they will print at 250 dpi, for a final output image with 6 MP, and we don't do any noise reduction. If you take the image with a 6 MP sensor (kind of like a K100D Monochrom, but with a modern sensor), each sensor pixel/photosite will translate directly to an output pixel, so input or sensor image noise = final image noise. If you take it with a 24 MP sensor (K-3 Monochrom), each photosite will on average get 1/4 as many photons as the K100D's photosites. Poisson statistics tell us that the noise goes as the square root of the number of photons, so each of these pixels will have a signal-to-noise ratio (SNR) that's only half of the SNR of the K-3 pixels. But when you average together groups of 4 pixels from the K-3, the SNR of the aggregated pixels will increase by the square root of 4, which is 2. 1/2 * 2 = 1; like I said it all comes out in the wash. On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 5:38 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2014-08-05 13:50 Bryan Jacoby wrote I think this idea of bigger/fewer pixels leading directly, as in through the very basic physics of photon noise, to lower noise is wrong-headed.I couldn't care less what the signal-to-noise ratio of _pixels in my sensor_ is. What I care about is the SNR of pixels in the output image, whether that be an image displayed on a screen or the dots made by a printer. i have pondered this too, and i suppose the question is whether one could average the pixels on a 24 Mp sensor to get as clean a 12 Mp image as from a 12 Mp sensor; i suspect there are multiple factors beyond the number of photons hitting a photosite that make the relationship non-linear (so that lower Mp would net lower noise even after averaging) but since in general we'd expect the 24 Mp sensor, in bright enough light, to capture much more detail with a comfortably low noise floor, i think we have to choose between low-ISO detail and high-ISO SNR -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Whatzis
How can you tell? (I'm not saying you're wrong.) On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 2:09 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/08/2014 6:03 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I find this critter clinging to the siding of our house this morning, high on the second story. Does anyone know what it might be? http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17827130 Comments are invited. It's green. and a Canon shooter Dave bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re:PESO - Anticipation
Perfection. On 8/5/14, 10:33 PM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 8 Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 22:41:58 -0400 From: knarfknarftheria...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Anticipation Message-ID:64ed11d8-0a78-407e-904a-3f7a4a158...@email.android.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 The annual fun fair showed up in our neighbourhood last weekend. A few interesting shots to be had: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2014/08/anticipation.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank ?Analysis kills spontaneity.? -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: More bugs etc from Michigan UP
Great stuff from another world but the spider picture is outstanding. On 8/5/14, 10:33 PM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 9 Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 23:01:44 -0400 From: Stan Halpins...@stans-photography.info To: Pentax-Discuss Mail ListPDML@pdml.net Subject: GESO: More bugs etc from Michigan UP Message-ID: c44fc79b-61ad-4ff7-b05d-fca4047e2...@stans-photography.info Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii A continuation of my UP gallery. The full gallery is at: http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p735513422 The new additions start with #19 which is at: http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p735513422/h3733c6d1#h3733c6d1 If you go to the Gallery, there are a series of thumbnails. Clicking one expands to partial screen with a thumbnail index to the right. Clicking on the main image enlarges that image. From the previous or this page you can navigate through with left/right arrows on the keyboard. These are selected output from the first two days of the workshop I am participating in. Many of the added shots have been processed via Helicon Focus, a photo stacking program. The stacks have anywhere from 3 to 10 original images combined. If you see exceptional depth of field in a bug or scenic shot, it probably is the result of stacking. Comments welcome but I may or may not have a chance to respond... stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re:PESO: A Day for Hats
Hats off to you. I do think a teeny bit tighter crop on the left side might isolate the subject even more. But job spotting the photo op. On 8/6/14, 9:46 AM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 1 Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 23:56:03 -0400 From: Daniel J. Matyoladanmaty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: A Day for Hats Message-ID: CAOmwt1xWHDYJY-vvSSCq39Bnx=ybio+jpf5_e8jagkymptj...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 At the New Jersey Festival of Ballooning: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17828876 Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: A Day for Hats
Thanks, Don. I think you are right that a tighter crop would make the image a bit stronger. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote: Hats off to you. I do think a teeny bit tighter crop on the left side might isolate the subject even more. But job spotting the photo op. On 8/6/14, 9:46 AM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 1 Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 23:56:03 -0400 From: Daniel J. Matyoladanmaty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: A Day for Hats Message-ID: CAOmwt1xWHDYJY-vvSSCq39Bnx=ybio+jpf5_e8jagkymptj...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 At the New Jersey Festival of Ballooning: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17828876 Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO watch the birdie
Nature aiding art I guess. That strand of hair across her neck catches my eye otherwise lovely candid portrait. On 8/6/14, 9:46 AM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 7 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 09:46:41 -0400 From: Bruce Walkerbruce.wal...@gmail.com To: Pentax Discuss Mailing ListPDML@pdml.net Subject: PESO watch the birdie Message-ID: cajuu0cdpu_wt-2s++xczfx4rots7brukm9av5ykkobtfkq+...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Took a trip down to Bronte Harbour in Oakville on Monday to catch a new musician friend doing a solo matinee gig at a vegan cafe. I was lining up for a candid shot of his girlfriend Katie when my wife cried out, oh look, there's a Buteo up there. I took a quick look to verify it was a Red Tailed Hawk then turned back to grab this portrait. http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/image/93969169352 K-3, DA* 55/1.4, f:3.2, 1/250th, ISO 1600. Comments welcome! -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Peddling their wares.
Red Bull girls distributing promotional items during the New Jersey Festival of Ballooning: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17828875size=lg Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Browns River
Very nice blue. I like the detail in the sky and the tree on the right. On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Philip Northeast rnort...@bigpond.net.au wrote: Browns River at Kingston Beach just about to flow into the Derwent River near Hobart Tasmania. A long time favourite - maybe because I like blue https://www.flickr.com/photos/27281712@N08/14646612780/ Pentax *istDS Sigma 18-125mm -- Philip Northeast www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO watch the birdie
I like her expression, nice moment. On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Took a trip down to Bronte Harbour in Oakville on Monday to catch a new musician friend doing a solo matinee gig at a vegan cafe. I was lining up for a candid shot of his girlfriend Katie when my wife cried out, oh look, there's a Buteo up there. I took a quick look to verify it was a Red Tailed Hawk then turned back to grab this portrait. http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/image/93969169352 K-3, DA* 55/1.4, f:3.2, 1/250th, ISO 1600. Comments welcome! -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Peddling their wares.
Nice catch! Maybe you could try a vertical crop. On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Red Bull girls distributing promotional items during the New Jersey Festival of Ballooning: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17828875size=lg Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Peddling their wares.
But they're not red and they don't have horns, (not to mention the Bull/Girls dichotomy). Oh, and you needed a longer lens. On 8/6/2014 11:56 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Red Bull girls distributing promotional items during the New Jersey Festival of Ballooning: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17828875size=lg Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Sort of fascinated by what Sony has done with the a7s
on 2014-08-06 7:47 Bryan Jacoby wrote I'm sorry, I don't see how using a different word changes anything. Averaging together more noisy measurements vs. fewer less noisy measurements can indeed lead to the same result. and it could lead to a better or worse results when there are so many variables controlling the noise in the source i think it's important to consider that as photosites get smaller, the overhead of signalling, isolation and on-chip optics may not decline linearly; newer sensor designs may (try to) compensate for this (as the K3 sensor is newer than K5), but sensors are not composed of perfectly abutting square pixels, so it's not a pure signal processing equation; the practical design (and the economics of sensor fabrication) mean real world tests are a better bet than theory -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: A Day for Hats
They must be real Canadians. B On 6 Aug 2014, at 04:56, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: At the New Jersey Festival of Ballooning: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17828876 Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Empire Parliamentary Delegation to Australia, 1926
On 5 Aug 2014, at 23:15, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: I've now rearranged the photos a bit so they're grouped by location (I've also grouped each state together). I have also tidied up a handful of the captions. The ones I couldn't place are collected near the end. I'm not sure about the Broughty Ferry one; as far as I can tell that's in Scotland so how it came to be in this collection is beyond me (It's in the middle of the second-last row). http://www.multi.net.nz/empire/ The colour photos have been separated out into their own gallery (17 photos, leaving only 55 in the main gallery): http://www.multi.net.nz/old-colour-photos/ I think it's a really interesting set. I particularly like the shot of the aboriginal man and child with the boomerangs. My parents sent one (a boomerang, not an aboriginal person) to my grandparents when we lived over there and whenever I see a real boomerang I'm reminded of it. They kept it on their front-room wall with a collection of West African artefacts my grandfather collected when he was there during WWI. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Sort of fascinated by what Sony has done with the a7s
Steve: I think I misread one of your earlier emails before I wrote one of my earlier emails. Yes, all the other technical stuff matters (not just photons statistics) when comparing two cameras, which is usually the practical question at hand. On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:06 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2014-08-06 7:47 Bryan Jacoby wrote I'm sorry, I don't see how using a different word changes anything. Averaging together more noisy measurements vs. fewer less noisy measurements can indeed lead to the same result. and it could lead to a better or worse results when there are so many variables controlling the noise in the source i think it's important to consider that as photosites get smaller, the overhead of signalling, isolation and on-chip optics may not decline linearly; newer sensor designs may (try to) compensate for this (as the K3 sensor is newer than K5), but sensors are not composed of perfectly abutting square pixels, so it's not a pure signal processing equation; the practical design (and the economics of sensor fabrication) mean real world tests are a better bet than theory -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Sandisk Extreme failure and it gets HOT
I took my card out last night to load some images, and left it on the desk overnight. This morning I found the card on the (carpeted) office floor. I picked it up, popped it back into the K5 and turned the camera on so I could format it. Turning the power on, there is about a 3-second pause (no lower-right access light as is normal upon power-up) and then a card error message. I turned the camera off, and upon removing the card, I noticed that it was VERY WARM. Repeating the cycle yields the same results. There are no external signs of damage - but I guess it's remotely possible that my office chair rode over it on the carpeted floor. Has anyone else ever seen a failure like this? How is Sandisk to deal with in terms of checking out warranty coverage? I may or may not have the packaging and receipt from 2+ years ago when I bought it... -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Oh no, not again.
Sometimes I feel like the flower pot in Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy. My K-5 II, purchased about a year ago, is showing signs of a flakey power board. Several times in the past week, I've been taking pictures and it would just lock up and the only way to reset it would be to pull the battery. My first K-5 started with intermittent problems, then finally died. I sent it in to KRIS, and waited through the long delay while they repaired it, and it died again a while later. I tried having it repaired down in San Diego and it was converted to IR, but that repair did not last and they weren't able to re-repair it. I do have a K-x for backup, but the shutter button on it is having issues, and it would cost more to repair than it would to replace with a used one. My K100s, had the viewfinder delaminate or something. Both of my K-5s have now had power board issues. My K-x is having issues with the shutter button. My first K-20 was dropped so I can't blame all of it's troubles on manufacturing, and at this point I don't remember if I had to send my replacement K20 in. My AF-540 was an unmitigated piece of shit that I lost count of the number of times I had to send it in for repairs. There are a lot of things that I love about my Pentax gear, but reliability isn't one of them. It's almost like owning a FIAT with a viewfinder. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO watch the birdie
Beautiful lady, very nice imafe. Are you sure your wife didn't mean a red haired bird? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com Subject: PESO watch the birdie Took a trip down to Bronte Harbour in Oakville on Monday to catch a new musician friend doing a solo matinee gig at a vegan cafe. I was lining up for a candid shot of his girlfriend Katie when my wife cried out, oh look, there's a Buteo up there. I took a quick look to verify it was a Red Tailed Hawk then turned back to grab this portrait. http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/image/93969169352 K-3, DA* 55/1.4, f:3.2, 1/250th, ISO 1600. Comments welcome! -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sandisk Extreme failure and it gets HOT
I've only used Sandisk memory cards since I started shooting digital and I've never had any sort of issue with any of their cards - be it SD's or Compact flash. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com Subject: OT: Sandisk Extreme failure and it gets HOT I took my card out last night to load some images, and left it on the desk overnight. This morning I found the card on the (carpeted) office floor. I picked it up, popped it back into the K5 and turned the camera on so I could format it. Turning the power on, there is about a 3-second pause (no lower-right access light as is normal upon power-up) and then a card error message. I turned the camera off, and upon removing the card, I noticed that it was VERY WARM. Repeating the cycle yields the same results. There are no external signs of damage - but I guess it's remotely possible that my office chair rode over it on the carpeted floor. Has anyone else ever seen a failure like this? How is Sandisk to deal with in terms of checking out warranty coverage? I may or may not have the packaging and receipt from 2+ years ago when I bought it... -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO (non-Pentax): Selfie x2
I spend the last 5 days in Twinsburg, Ohio for my annual Twins Days venture with my twin brother. The K5 performed flawlessly for days beside (and almost IN) the swimming pool, as well as an entire day outside in the rain. For all that I put it through, my favorite photo from the weekend was not taken with the K5, but with a little cheap Nabi Square HD action camera. My brother and I ran into Don and Dave Wolf, who recently had a brief stint on a reality program: Big Rig Bounty Hunters. During their time on the program they became intimately familiar with the performance and capabilities of the GoPro Hero 3 so they bought one to take photos of themselves with other twins at the festival. I didn't know this, but I was doing the same thing with my $49 W00T-special camera. So we bumped into each other, got close, and Dave and I held our cameras up together to get the shot. Dave and Don are looking at my camera... Me and my brother are looking at their camera. I dunno - *I* was amused, anyways. http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2014/twins%20days/content/FILE0007_1_large.html -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO watch the birdie
...that is image Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com Subject: Re: PESO watch the birdie Beautiful lady, very nice imafe. Are you sure your wife didn't mean a red haired bird? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com Subject: PESO watch the birdie Took a trip down to Bronte Harbour in Oakville on Monday to catch a new musician friend doing a solo matinee gig at a vegan cafe. I was lining up for a candid shot of his girlfriend Katie when my wife cried out, oh look, there's a Buteo up there. I took a quick look to verify it was a Red Tailed Hawk then turned back to grab this portrait. http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/image/93969169352 K-3, DA* 55/1.4, f:3.2, 1/250th, ISO 1600. Comments welcome! -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO (non-Pentax): Selfie x2
Neat capture. Now which ones are the twins ? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com Subject: PESO (non-Pentax): Selfie x2 I spend the last 5 days in Twinsburg, Ohio for my annual Twins Days venture with my twin brother. The K5 performed flawlessly for days beside (and almost IN) the swimming pool, as well as an entire day outside in the rain. For all that I put it through, my favorite photo from the weekend was not taken with the K5, but with a little cheap Nabi Square HD action camera. My brother and I ran into Don and Dave Wolf, who recently had a brief stint on a reality program: Big Rig Bounty Hunters. During their time on the program they became intimately familiar with the performance and capabilities of the GoPro Hero 3 so they bought one to take photos of themselves with other twins at the festival. I didn't know this, but I was doing the same thing with my $49 W00T-special camera. So we bumped into each other, got close, and Dave and I held our cameras up together to get the shot. Dave and Don are looking at my camera... Me and my brother are looking at their camera. I dunno - *I* was amused, anyways. http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2014/twins%20days/content/FILE0007_1_large.html -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Oh no, not again.
I hear you. Want my list? My first K-7 was and is a mostly reliable camera, but the front e-dial barely works now despite efforts to clean it with contact cleaner. It will get better for a while and then revert back to registering turns in the wrong direction. Bummer. The shutter button also has issues and barely registers half presses. Not entirely awful, but it keeps SR from engaging half the time. The sensor also has two pieces of dust lodged behind the filter stack somehow as well. Sometimes the shutter only opens halfway and the camera starts acting all weird. Turning it off and on a few times resets it. The camera has seen tons of use and a few drops, so I really can't complain too much. So then I buy a K-5 when the K-5 II was introduced. It was a fairly reliable camera at first. One day I dropped it off a tripod with my still broken 12-24. It bent the bayonet ring, which I swapped with my K-7. After that it seemed mostly reliable for about 6 months, though the mount was still not right which I didn't really know and just blamed my lenses for being bad. One day it started taking pictures that were half green like the sensor readout was failing. It was still under warranty so I sent it in and asked CRIS to check out the mount for me as I had doubts that it was in good shape. It came back with a new board and sensor, all fixed under warranty. They claim to have tested the mount, so I assumed they did and it was ok. Then one day in the cold the mirror starts flopping. This problem just grew worse over time and is triggered by temperatures under 60F. Stick it in the freezer and it will flop. Then the camera gets lost somehow, so I replace it with a K-5 IIs. The IIs has been rock solid though I have babied the hell out of it. I somehow get my K-5 back a month later and try a DA17-70 on it. Turns out it won't focus to infinity at all on the wide end. Its also extremely soft on the right side. So now I have a K-5 with a bad mirror flop issue and a bad mount. Probably not worth the cost to fix, but I'm going to send it back in anyways since it was a good backup at one time. Oh yeah, I bought another K-7 from a list member here and fell on it a month later. Broke the mount and my precious A35-105. I sort of fixed the screwholes in the mount and replaced it with a good ring, but for some reason it won't focus at all, so clearly the AF block or the mirror is out of whack. I need to test that out some more. The camera is pretty much minty asides from not focusing correctly. Bummer. Oh yeah. I bought two copies of the 16-45 (lost one somehow, long story) and both ended up just being horribly floppy and soft. The one copy was sort of good for a while, but then just got soft itself. Especially in portrait. So much so that I can't use the lens anymore. Sometimes I feel like I'm just throwing money away. I'm sure you get that feeling too. On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Sometimes I feel like the flower pot in Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy. My K-5 II, purchased about a year ago, is showing signs of a flakey power board. Several times in the past week, I've been taking pictures and it would just lock up and the only way to reset it would be to pull the battery. My first K-5 started with intermittent problems, then finally died. I sent it in to KRIS, and waited through the long delay while they repaired it, and it died again a while later. I tried having it repaired down in San Diego and it was converted to IR, but that repair did not last and they weren't able to re-repair it. I do have a K-x for backup, but the shutter button on it is having issues, and it would cost more to repair than it would to replace with a used one. My K100s, had the viewfinder delaminate or something. Both of my K-5s have now had power board issues. My K-x is having issues with the shutter button. My first K-20 was dropped so I can't blame all of it's troubles on manufacturing, and at this point I don't remember if I had to send my replacement K20 in. My AF-540 was an unmitigated piece of shit that I lost count of the number of times I had to send it in for repairs. There are a lot of things that I love about my Pentax gear, but reliability isn't one of them. It's almost like owning a FIAT with a viewfinder. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Oh no, not again.
ps sorry for the lack for formatting. that was a bit longer than i realized. :) On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: I hear you. Want my list? My first K-7 was and is a mostly reliable camera, but the front e-dial barely works now despite efforts to clean it with contact cleaner. It will get better for a while and then revert back to registering turns in the wrong direction. Bummer. The shutter button also has issues and barely registers half presses. Not entirely awful, but it keeps SR from engaging half the time. The sensor also has two pieces of dust lodged behind the filter stack somehow as well. Sometimes the shutter only opens halfway and the camera starts acting all weird. Turning it off and on a few times resets it. The camera has seen tons of use and a few drops, so I really can't complain too much. So then I buy a K-5 when the K-5 II was introduced. It was a fairly reliable camera at first. One day I dropped it off a tripod with my still broken 12-24. It bent the bayonet ring, which I swapped with my K-7. After that it seemed mostly reliable for about 6 months, though the mount was still not right which I didn't really know and just blamed my lenses for being bad. One day it started taking pictures that were half green like the sensor readout was failing. It was still under warranty so I sent it in and asked CRIS to check out the mount for me as I had doubts that it was in good shape. It came back with a new board and sensor, all fixed under warranty. They claim to have tested the mount, so I assumed they did and it was ok. Then one day in the cold the mirror starts flopping. This problem just grew worse over time and is triggered by temperatures under 60F. Stick it in the freezer and it will flop. Then the camera gets lost somehow, so I replace it with a K-5 IIs. The IIs has been rock solid though I have babied the hell out of it. I somehow get my K-5 back a month later and try a DA17-70 on it. Turns out it won't focus to infinity at all on the wide end. Its also extremely soft on the right side. So now I have a K-5 with a bad mirror flop issue and a bad mount. Probably not worth the cost to fix, but I'm going to send it back in anyways since it was a good backup at one time. Oh yeah, I bought another K-7 from a list member here and fell on it a month later. Broke the mount and my precious A35-105. I sort of fixed the screwholes in the mount and replaced it with a good ring, but for some reason it won't focus at all, so clearly the AF block or the mirror is out of whack. I need to test that out some more. The camera is pretty much minty asides from not focusing correctly. Bummer. Oh yeah. I bought two copies of the 16-45 (lost one somehow, long story) and both ended up just being horribly floppy and soft. The one copy was sort of good for a while, but then just got soft itself. Especially in portrait. So much so that I can't use the lens anymore. Sometimes I feel like I'm just throwing money away. I'm sure you get that feeling too. On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Sometimes I feel like the flower pot in Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy. My K-5 II, purchased about a year ago, is showing signs of a flakey power board. Several times in the past week, I've been taking pictures and it would just lock up and the only way to reset it would be to pull the battery. My first K-5 started with intermittent problems, then finally died. I sent it in to KRIS, and waited through the long delay while they repaired it, and it died again a while later. I tried having it repaired down in San Diego and it was converted to IR, but that repair did not last and they weren't able to re-repair it. I do have a K-x for backup, but the shutter button on it is having issues, and it would cost more to repair than it would to replace with a used one. My K100s, had the viewfinder delaminate or something. Both of my K-5s have now had power board issues. My K-x is having issues with the shutter button. My first K-20 was dropped so I can't blame all of it's troubles on manufacturing, and at this point I don't remember if I had to send my replacement K20 in. My AF-540 was an unmitigated piece of shit that I lost count of the number of times I had to send it in for repairs. There are a lot of things that I love about my Pentax gear, but reliability isn't one of them. It's almost like owning a FIAT with a viewfinder. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Sort of fascinated by what Sony has done with the a7s
I do wonder if sensor site size affects dynamic range. On August 6, 2014 8:05:44 AM PDT, Bryan Jacoby bryan.jac...@gmail.com wrote: I don't claim to know if the K-3 is or is not more noisy than the K-5. I'm just talking about the fundamental question of noise in more vs. fewer pixels. Read noise, etc., is a whole other ball of wax, but photon statistics is the one thing that you can't get away from with ever-improving technology. Throw different in-camera jpeg engines into the mix and really this is a comparison not worth making, if you want a basic understanding of how pixel count relates to noise. I remember in the original glowing DXO reviews of the K-5 they mentioned that some noise reduction is applied even to RAW files at high ISO. On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: That's not factoring in read noise, processing and quite a few other variables. My take is that the K-5 series produces cleaner files out of the box at any ISO. How much I can push shadows without seeing noise is of great interest to me. I feel that you can likely get files from the K-3 with equal noise characteristics with post processing, but honestly, side by side jpegs out of the camera reduced to web resolution show more noise from the k-3. Also you have to factor in the resolution loss when the k-5 hits over 1600. Its clearly doing some NR wizardry in its pipeline and reducing the resolution somewhat. How much the K-3 does that I do not know, but have read that it does something similar. On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Bryan Jacoby bryan.jac...@gmail.com wrote: It's all about photon counting statistics a.k.a. Poisson statistics a.k.a. shot noise: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shot_noise If we ignore the mysteriuos details of de-Bayering (let's pretend all cameras are like the Leica M Monochrom), and that we are in a situation where photon counting statistics are the dominant source of noise (which is what we should be talking about, since we are concerned with the fundamental question of noise in more vs. fewer pixels, not other noise sources that will vary from one sensor design to another), then all that matters is how many photons end up each pixel of the final output image. Consider this simple case: you want to order an 8 x 12 print from Mpix, which they will print at 250 dpi, for a final output image with 6 MP, and we don't do any noise reduction. If you take the image with a 6 MP sensor (kind of like a K100D Monochrom, but with a modern sensor), each sensor pixel/photosite will translate directly to an output pixel, so input or sensor image noise = final image noise. If you take it with a 24 MP sensor (K-3 Monochrom), each photosite will on average get 1/4 as many photons as the K100D's photosites. Poisson statistics tell us that the noise goes as the square root of the number of photons, so each of these pixels will have a signal-to-noise ratio (SNR) that's only half of the SNR of the K-3 pixels. But when you average together groups of 4 pixels from the K-3, the SNR of the aggregated pixels will increase by the square root of 4, which is 2. 1/2 * 2 = 1; like I said it all comes out in the wash. On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 5:38 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2014-08-05 13:50 Bryan Jacoby wrote I think this idea of bigger/fewer pixels leading directly, as in through the very basic physics of photon noise, to lower noise is wrong-headed.I couldn't care less what the signal-to-noise ratio of _pixels in my sensor_ is. What I care about is the SNR of pixels in the output image, whether that be an image displayed on a screen or the dots made by a printer. i have pondered this too, and i suppose the question is whether one could average the pixels on a 24 Mp sensor to get as clean a 12 Mp image as from a 12 Mp sensor; i suspect there are multiple factors beyond the number of photons hitting a photosite that make the relationship non-linear (so that lower Mp would net lower noise even after averaging) but since in general we'd expect the 24 Mp sensor, in bright enough light, to capture much more detail with a comfortably low noise floor, i think we have to choose between low-ISO detail and high-ISO SNR -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
Re: Oh no, not again.
And do you think with all the mishandling a Nikon/Canon would not have had issues? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Oh no, not again. I hear you. Want my list? My first K-7 was and is a mostly reliable camera, but the front e-dial barely works now despite efforts to clean it with contact cleaner. It will get better for a while and then revert back to registering turns in the wrong direction. Bummer. The shutter button also has issues and barely registers half presses. Not entirely awful, but it keeps SR from engaging half the time. The sensor also has two pieces of dust lodged behind the filter stack somehow as well. Sometimes the shutter only opens halfway and the camera starts acting all weird. Turning it off and on a few times resets it. The camera has seen tons of use and a few drops, so I really can't complain too much. So then I buy a K-5 when the K-5 II was introduced. It was a fairly reliable camera at first. One day I dropped it off a tripod with my still broken 12-24. It bent the bayonet ring, which I swapped with my K-7. After that it seemed mostly reliable for about 6 months, though the mount was still not right which I didn't really know and just blamed my lenses for being bad. One day it started taking pictures that were half green like the sensor readout was failing. It was still under warranty so I sent it in and asked CRIS to check out the mount for me as I had doubts that it was in good shape. It came back with a new board and sensor, all fixed under warranty. They claim to have tested the mount, so I assumed they did and it was ok. Then one day in the cold the mirror starts flopping. This problem just grew worse over time and is triggered by temperatures under 60F. Stick it in the freezer and it will flop. Then the camera gets lost somehow, so I replace it with a K-5 IIs. The IIs has been rock solid though I have babied the hell out of it. I somehow get my K-5 back a month later and try a DA17-70 on it. Turns out it won't focus to infinity at all on the wide end. Its also extremely soft on the right side. So now I have a K-5 with a bad mirror flop issue and a bad mount. Probably not worth the cost to fix, but I'm going to send it back in anyways since it was a good backup at one time. Oh yeah, I bought another K-7 from a list member here and fell on it a month later. Broke the mount and my precious A35-105. I sort of fixed the screwholes in the mount and replaced it with a good ring, but for some reason it won't focus at all, so clearly the AF block or the mirror is out of whack. I need to test that out some more. The camera is pretty much minty asides from not focusing correctly. Bummer. Oh yeah. I bought two copies of the 16-45 (lost one somehow, long story) and both ended up just being horribly floppy and soft. The one copy was sort of good for a while, but then just got soft itself. Especially in portrait. So much so that I can't use the lens anymore. Sometimes I feel like I'm just throwing money away. I'm sure you get that feeling too. On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Sometimes I feel like the flower pot in Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy. My K-5 II, purchased about a year ago, is showing signs of a flakey power board. Several times in the past week, I've been taking pictures and it would just lock up and the only way to reset it would be to pull the battery. My first K-5 started with intermittent problems, then finally died. I sent it in to KRIS, and waited through the long delay while they repaired it, and it died again a while later. I tried having it repaired down in San Diego and it was converted to IR, but that repair did not last and they weren't able to re-repair it. I do have a K-x for backup, but the shutter button on it is having issues, and it would cost more to repair than it would to replace with a used one. My K100s, had the viewfinder delaminate or something. Both of my K-5s have now had power board issues. My K-x is having issues with the shutter button. My first K-20 was dropped so I can't blame all of it's troubles on manufacturing, and at this point I don't remember if I had to send my replacement K20 in. My AF-540 was an unmitigated piece of shit that I lost count of the number of times I had to send it in for repairs. There are a lot of things that I love about my Pentax gear, but reliability isn't one of them. It's almost like owning a FIAT with a viewfinder. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Oh no, not again.
LOL. No no. I blame myself of course. Still its no fun having gear break down after sinking money into it. Look at the abuse that metal film cameras and lenses could take. Those days of rugged cameras are kind of over sadly. The plastic zooms I doubt will last me 30 years, but the M50 1.7 I've been using sometimes lately surely will. On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: And do you think with all the mishandling a Nikon/Canon would not have had issues? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Oh no, not again. I hear you. Want my list? My first K-7 was and is a mostly reliable camera, but the front e-dial barely works now despite efforts to clean it with contact cleaner. It will get better for a while and then revert back to registering turns in the wrong direction. Bummer. The shutter button also has issues and barely registers half presses. Not entirely awful, but it keeps SR from engaging half the time. The sensor also has two pieces of dust lodged behind the filter stack somehow as well. Sometimes the shutter only opens halfway and the camera starts acting all weird. Turning it off and on a few times resets it. The camera has seen tons of use and a few drops, so I really can't complain too much. So then I buy a K-5 when the K-5 II was introduced. It was a fairly reliable camera at first. One day I dropped it off a tripod with my still broken 12-24. It bent the bayonet ring, which I swapped with my K-7. After that it seemed mostly reliable for about 6 months, though the mount was still not right which I didn't really know and just blamed my lenses for being bad. One day it started taking pictures that were half green like the sensor readout was failing. It was still under warranty so I sent it in and asked CRIS to check out the mount for me as I had doubts that it was in good shape. It came back with a new board and sensor, all fixed under warranty. They claim to have tested the mount, so I assumed they did and it was ok. Then one day in the cold the mirror starts flopping. This problem just grew worse over time and is triggered by temperatures under 60F. Stick it in the freezer and it will flop. Then the camera gets lost somehow, so I replace it with a K-5 IIs. The IIs has been rock solid though I have babied the hell out of it. I somehow get my K-5 back a month later and try a DA17-70 on it. Turns out it won't focus to infinity at all on the wide end. Its also extremely soft on the right side. So now I have a K-5 with a bad mirror flop issue and a bad mount. Probably not worth the cost to fix, but I'm going to send it back in anyways since it was a good backup at one time. Oh yeah, I bought another K-7 from a list member here and fell on it a month later. Broke the mount and my precious A35-105. I sort of fixed the screwholes in the mount and replaced it with a good ring, but for some reason it won't focus at all, so clearly the AF block or the mirror is out of whack. I need to test that out some more. The camera is pretty much minty asides from not focusing correctly. Bummer. Oh yeah. I bought two copies of the 16-45 (lost one somehow, long story) and both ended up just being horribly floppy and soft. The one copy was sort of good for a while, but then just got soft itself. Especially in portrait. So much so that I can't use the lens anymore. Sometimes I feel like I'm just throwing money away. I'm sure you get that feeling too. On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Sometimes I feel like the flower pot in Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy. My K-5 II, purchased about a year ago, is showing signs of a flakey power board. Several times in the past week, I've been taking pictures and it would just lock up and the only way to reset it would be to pull the battery. My first K-5 started with intermittent problems, then finally died. I sent it in to KRIS, and waited through the long delay while they repaired it, and it died again a while later. I tried having it repaired down in San Diego and it was converted to IR, but that repair did not last and they weren't able to re-repair it. I do have a K-x for backup, but the shutter button on it is having issues, and it would cost more to repair than it would to replace with a used one. My K100s, had the viewfinder delaminate or something. Both of my K-5s have now had power board issues. My K-x is having issues with the shutter button. My first K-20 was dropped so I can't blame all of it's troubles on manufacturing, and at this point I don't remember if I had to send my replacement K20 in. My AF-540 was an unmitigated piece of shit that I lost count of the number of times I had to send it in for repairs. There are a lot of things that I love about my Pentax gear, but reliability isn't one of them. It's almost like
PESO - 'COlumbine Visitor'
Another image from my shoot in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan in June. K3, 300mm f4.5 FA, 1/13 @ f9, 400 ISO Comments appreciated. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17829202 Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Lucky New Yorkers and another Henri
Over the last two or 3 years I've started to appreciate enormously the work of Henri de Toulouse-Lautrec and during my bike ride through France I made a special detour to Albi to visit his museum. You lucky New Yorkers now have an exhibition of his work at the MOMA: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-28664568 If your only experience of him is 1970s student posters, put that behind you. Read 'Bel-ami' by Maupassant. Don't, whatever you do, watch the film. Then go to this exhibition. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - 'COlumbine Visitor'
Very nice On 6 Aug 2014, at 21:35, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Another image from my shoot in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan in June. K3, 300mm f4.5 FA, 1/13 @ f9, 400 ISO Comments appreciated. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17829202 Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO (non-Pentax): Selfie x2
So the two guys with beards are twins, now are the other two brothers? Wait they are brothers and the four of you are quadruplets. Never mind I bet a twin convention is a hoot. You four sure look like you are enjoying yourselves. Nice photo. On 8/6/14, 3:10 PM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 13 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 15:04:56 -0500 From: Charles Robinsoncharl...@visi.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO (non-Pentax): Selfie x2 Message-ID:6df1de52-aa21-4476-a610-9ba7afd1d...@visi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I spend the last 5 days in Twinsburg, Ohio for my annual Twins Days venture with my twin brother. The K5 performed flawlessly for days beside (and almost IN) the swimming pool, as well as an entire day outside in the rain. For all that I put it through, my favorite photo from the weekend was not taken with the K5, but with a little cheap Nabi Square HD action camera. My brother and I ran into Don and Dave Wolf, who recently had a brief stint on a reality program: Big Rig Bounty Hunters. During their time on the program they became intimately familiar with the performance and capabilities of the GoPro Hero 3 so they bought one to take photos of themselves with other twins at the festival. I didn't know this, but I was doing the same thing with my $49 W00T-special camera. So we bumped into each other, got close, and Dave and I held our cameras up together to get the shot. Dave and Don are looking at my camera... Me and my brother are looking at their camera. I dunno -*I* was amused, anyways. http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2014/twins%20days/content/FILE0007_1_large.html -Charles -- Charles Robinson -charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - 'COlumbine Visitor'
Ken I am never sure whether a hitchhiker bug adds or detracts from a photo. It is a very artful photo alone and more unique with the mosquito aboard I guess. On 8/6/14, 4:18 PM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 6 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 16:35:52 -0400 From: Ken Wallerkwal...@peoplepc.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - 'COlumbine Visitor' Message-ID: 8C0A8CBC30B74FDA85CE0B625FEA5E3E@kena60ebc3b689 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Another image from my shoot in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan in June. K3, 300mm f4.5 FA, 1/13 @ f9, 400 ISO Comments appreciated. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17829202 Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Oh no, not again.
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: And do you think with all the mishandling a Nikon/Canon would not have had issues? Dont get me going on my Nikon D2H problems Dave Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Oh no, not again. I hear you. Want my list? My first K-7 was and is a mostly reliable camera, but the front e-dial barely works now despite efforts to clean it with contact cleaner. It will get better for a while and then revert back to registering turns in the wrong direction. Bummer. The shutter button also has issues and barely registers half presses. Not entirely awful, but it keeps SR from engaging half the time. The sensor also has two pieces of dust lodged behind the filter stack somehow as well. Sometimes the shutter only opens halfway and the camera starts acting all weird. Turning it off and on a few times resets it. The camera has seen tons of use and a few drops, so I really can't complain too much. So then I buy a K-5 when the K-5 II was introduced. It was a fairly reliable camera at first. One day I dropped it off a tripod with my still broken 12-24. It bent the bayonet ring, which I swapped with my K-7. After that it seemed mostly reliable for about 6 months, though the mount was still not right which I didn't really know and just blamed my lenses for being bad. One day it started taking pictures that were half green like the sensor readout was failing. It was still under warranty so I sent it in and asked CRIS to check out the mount for me as I had doubts that it was in good shape. It came back with a new board and sensor, all fixed under warranty. They claim to have tested the mount, so I assumed they did and it was ok. Then one day in the cold the mirror starts flopping. This problem just grew worse over time and is triggered by temperatures under 60F. Stick it in the freezer and it will flop. Then the camera gets lost somehow, so I replace it with a K-5 IIs. The IIs has been rock solid though I have babied the hell out of it. I somehow get my K-5 back a month later and try a DA17-70 on it. Turns out it won't focus to infinity at all on the wide end. Its also extremely soft on the right side. So now I have a K-5 with a bad mirror flop issue and a bad mount. Probably not worth the cost to fix, but I'm going to send it back in anyways since it was a good backup at one time. Oh yeah, I bought another K-7 from a list member here and fell on it a month later. Broke the mount and my precious A35-105. I sort of fixed the screwholes in the mount and replaced it with a good ring, but for some reason it won't focus at all, so clearly the AF block or the mirror is out of whack. I need to test that out some more. The camera is pretty much minty asides from not focusing correctly. Bummer. Oh yeah. I bought two copies of the 16-45 (lost one somehow, long story) and both ended up just being horribly floppy and soft. The one copy was sort of good for a while, but then just got soft itself. Especially in portrait. So much so that I can't use the lens anymore. Sometimes I feel like I'm just throwing money away. I'm sure you get that feeling too. On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Sometimes I feel like the flower pot in Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy. My K-5 II, purchased about a year ago, is showing signs of a flakey power board. Several times in the past week, I've been taking pictures and it would just lock up and the only way to reset it would be to pull the battery. My first K-5 started with intermittent problems, then finally died. I sent it in to KRIS, and waited through the long delay while they repaired it, and it died again a while later. I tried having it repaired down in San Diego and it was converted to IR, but that repair did not last and they weren't able to re-repair it. I do have a K-x for backup, but the shutter button on it is having issues, and it would cost more to repair than it would to replace with a used one. My K100s, had the viewfinder delaminate or something. Both of my K-5s have now had power board issues. My K-x is having issues with the shutter button. My first K-20 was dropped so I can't blame all of it's troubles on manufacturing, and at this point I don't remember if I had to send my replacement K20 in. My AF-540 was an unmitigated piece of shit that I lost count of the number of times I had to send it in for repairs. There are a lot of things that I love about my Pentax gear, but reliability isn't one of them. It's almost like owning a FIAT with a viewfinder. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the
Re: PESO - Anticipation
well done Dave On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:41 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: The annual fun fair showed up in our neighbourhood last weekend. A few interesting shots to be had: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2014/08/anticipation.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Whatzis
On 06/08/2014 9:07 AM, Bryan Jacoby wrote: How can you tell? (I'm not saying you're wrong.) The slack jawed look of unintelligence? bill It's green. and a Canon shooter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO watch the birdie
On 06/08/2014 7:46 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Took a trip down to Bronte Harbour in Oakville on Monday to catch a new musician friend doing a solo matinee gig at a vegan cafe. I was lining up for a candid shot of his girlfriend Katie when my wife cried out, oh look, there's a Buteo up there. I took a quick look to verify it was a Red Tailed Hawk then turned back to grab this portrait. http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/image/93969169352 Wow, she's gorgeous. You must have a great camera!! bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Yacht
When you isolate a subject size can be a difficult concept https://www.flickr.com/photos/27281712@N08/ *istDS Sigma 18-125mm -- Philip Northeast www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: A Day for Hats
They sure ain't real Mexicans . . . . Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote: They must be real Canadians. B On 6 Aug 2014, at 04:56, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: At the New Jersey Festival of Ballooning: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17828876 Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Philly
Collin, come again when you can spend more time! Parking tips provided.. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: Went to Philadelphia this weekend. No time to look anyone up -- writer's conference up in Langhorne. Great eats. Horrible parking, though the natives sure have the art down. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: More bugs etc from Michigan UP
Stan, Your and Don's galleries from Mackinac Island and the UP remind me of our honeymoon decades ago. We drove from Chicago to Mackinac and spent a night on the Island. (terrible hotel room and ) We rented a tandem bicycle and took a ride around the Island. We were fit, but not for a 7 miles long ride. Nice pictures capture the mood, and those bugs are really excellent. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:01 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: A continuation of my UP gallery. The full gallery is at: http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p735513422 The new additions start with #19 which is at: http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p735513422/h3733c6d1#h3733c6d1 If you go to the Gallery, there are a series of thumbnails. Clicking one expands to partial screen with a thumbnail index to the right. Clicking on the main image enlarges that image. From the previous or this page you can navigate through with left/right arrows on the keyboard. These are selected output from the first two days of the workshop I am participating in. Many of the added shots have been processed via Helicon Focus, a photo stacking program. The stacks have anywhere from 3 to 10 original images combined. If you see exceptional depth of field in a bug or scenic shot, it probably is the result of stacking. Comments welcome but I may or may not have a chance to respond... stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Looking for the Brass Ring
Another one from the fun fair last weekend: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2014/08/looking-for-brass-ring.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Anticipation
Thanks, Bob. Cheers, frank On 6 August, 2014 2:51:46 AM EDT, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote: Norman Rockwell! Lovely shot. B On 6 Aug 2014, at 03:42, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: The annual fun fair showed up in our neighbourhood last weekend. A few interesting shots to be had: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2014/08/anticipation.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Anticipation
Appreciate it, Jack! Cheers, frank On 6 August, 2014 8:25:11 AM EDT, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: Beautifully times and extremely well caught, Knarf! J - Original Message - From: knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 7:41:58 PM Subject: PESO - Anticipation The annual fun fair showed up in our neighbourhood last weekend. A few interesting shots to be had: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2014/08/anticipation.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Anticipation
Thank you, Dave! Cheers, frank On 6 August, 2014 6:09:39 PM EDT, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: well done Dave On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:41 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: The annual fun fair showed up in our neighbourhood last weekend. A few interesting shots to be had: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2014/08/anticipation.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - 'COlumbine Visitor'
Thanks Bob. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com Subject: Re: PESO - 'COlumbine Visitor' Very nice On 6 Aug 2014, at 21:35, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Another image from my shoot in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan in June. K3, 300mm f4.5 FA, 1/13 @ f9, 400 ISO Comments appreciated. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17829202 Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - 'COlumbine Visitor'
Sublime. Cheers, frank On 6 August, 2014 4:35:52 PM EDT, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Another image from my shoot in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan in June. K3, 300mm f4.5 FA, 1/13 @ f9, 400 ISO Comments appreciated. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17829202 Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Goldfinch
I love goldfinches. Such pretty little things. Beautifully captured, Mark. Incredible sharpness. Cheers, frank On 2 August, 2014 6:10:29 PM EDT, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/goldfinch I was going to go out shooting today but wound up staying around the house to get caught up on some yard work. This goldfinch might have been a better photo op than anything I would have seen in the field. Comments welcome. K-3 and Tokina ATX 400 f5.6. For a ~$350 lens it does a decent job. Mark --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Looking for the Brass Ring
Nice one, Frank! - Marco On Aug 6, 2014, at 7:42 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Another one from the fun fair last weekend: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2014/08/looking-for-brass-ring.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Empire Parliamentary Delegation to Australia, 1926
On Aug 6, 2014, at 12:08 pm, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: The Better Farming Train set interested me so I went Googling. It seems that this operated in Victoria from 1924 promoting the idea that the land could be tamed and that it was the patriotic duty of every farmer to increase his yields. You might find the following link on the Victorian Energy Earth Resources site of some interest. Its Photo Gallery on the Better Farming Train contains several images similar to those in your gallery - so similar, in fact, that it's obvious that they came from the same set of slides as yours. The last 7 images in your set are all part of the Better Farming Train and those images all appear in the Energy Earth Resources' gallery. http://www.energyandresources.vic.gov.au/about-us/publications/library/virtual-exhibition/better-farming-train The 'Babcoon Festina' image is actually a 'demonstration of the Babcock method for testing the butterfat content of milk.' The title may be 'Babcock Testing' rather than Babcoon Festina. I just had a look at the link. I owe you for that, it's helped me immensely with a couple of labels, including one which seems to have been mixed up with a similar but different photo. It also confirmed that I'd scanned #51 (the comfy looking carriage) the right way up. I was worried about that one as there is nothing I can find in the photo to indicate which way around it goes. It also means I can now group them with the Victorian photos where they belong. Hmm I'm becoming annoyed at jAlbum... is there a way to make it show line breaks properly and make clickable links? I might have to change to a different skin, pity they all stink. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Sandisk Extreme failure and it gets HOT
I've gotten a couple of card error messages on older class 4 4gb Sandisk cards I originally used with the K20D. They worked fine until I attempted to use them in the K-5II. The card access light came on, I tried to format the camera reported card error. On the first, I tried putting the card into the K20D which then formatted the card and it worked fine, the second card appeared to format in the K20D but then failed when I attempted a test photo with the K20D. The first actually worked in the K-5II after being formatted by the K20D. I don't really trust that first card, but it's there in a pinch. I figured I'd take advantage of the lifetime guaranty from Sandisk, but gave up after realizing I couldn't prove I actually bought the card. Both cards were bought at the same time, and neither had given me any trouble before. Maybe it was just their time to fail. On 8/6/2014 3:10 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: I took my card out last night to load some images, and left it on the desk overnight. This morning I found the card on the (carpeted) office floor. I picked it up, popped it back into the K5 and turned the camera on so I could format it. Turning the power on, there is about a 3-second pause (no lower-right access light as is normal upon power-up) and then a card error message. I turned the camera off, and upon removing the card, I noticed that it was VERY WARM. Repeating the cycle yields the same results. There are no external signs of damage - but I guess it's remotely possible that my office chair rode over it on the carpeted floor. Has anyone else ever seen a failure like this? How is Sandisk to deal with in terms of checking out warranty coverage? I may or may not have the packaging and receipt from 2+ years ago when I bought it... -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Oh no, not again.
On 8/6/2014 3:13 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Sometimes I feel like the flower pot in Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy. My K-5 II, purchased about a year ago, is showing signs of a flakey power board. Several times in the past week, I've been taking pictures and it would just lock up and the only way to reset it would be to pull the battery. My first K-5 started with intermittent problems, then finally died. I sent it in to KRIS, and waited through the long delay while they repaired it, and it died again a while later. I tried having it repaired down in San Diego and it was converted to IR, but that repair did not last and they weren't able to re-repair it. I do have a K-x for backup, but the shutter button on it is having issues, and it would cost more to repair than it would to replace with a used one. My K100s, had the viewfinder delaminate or something. Both of my K-5s have now had power board issues. My K-x is having issues with the shutter button. My first K-20 was dropped so I can't blame all of it's troubles on manufacturing, and at this point I don't remember if I had to send my replacement K20 in. My AF-540 was an unmitigated piece of shit that I lost count of the number of times I had to send it in for repairs. There are a lot of things that I love about my Pentax gear, but reliability isn't one of them. It's almost like owning a FIAT with a viewfinder. Geez Larry, I beat the crap out of my cameras and I don't have the problems you do. My K20D has a broken SD card door, a cracked viewfinder, the focus point indicators have been knocked out of alighment and yet it still takes photos. My *ist-D took a tumble, and the green button got jammed in some intermediate position, so that neither it's functionality nor the DOF preview now works and it still takes pretty good pictures, (though it does run through batteries pretty fast, even when turned off, though that may not be related since the *ist-Ds has developed the same problem). What the hell do you do to your poor cameras? -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Yacht
You're right - hard to tell. Magnificent model. Alan C -Original Message- From: Philip Northeast Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 2:12 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO - Yacht When you isolate a subject size can be a difficult concept https://www.flickr.com/photos/27281712@N08/ *istDS Sigma 18-125mm -- Philip Northeast www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
