Re: Peso-Rolling Dohicky

[Larry Colen]

Jack Davis wrote:


Noticed this parked on the edge of a mystery orchard.
Like to photograph old worn rusty stuff and thought
this qualified.
it was a curious photo target.
No prizes, but anyone have an idea what it is/was used for.

J

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID-1011


It seems to be some sort of post Mosaic free verse:

ADODB.Field error '800a0bcd'

Either BOF or EOF is True, or the current record has been deleted. 
Requested operation requires a current record.


/aspupload/detail.asp, line 37





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RE: Boris PESO #10 - Formulae

[John Coyle]

With my limited exposure to advanced maths - I guess at:
Two apple pies plus a cup of carbonised water (supposed to equal coffee) is 
greater than or equal to
two slices of one/seventh capsicum (?) on toast and a quarter chicken plus 
barbecue sauce and a
drink...  the lower formula seems to say that a bar of chocolate multiplied by 
some factor will lead
to an explosion!


John in Brisbane




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Subject: Boris PESO #10 - Formulae

Again, trying to make you smile:

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2015/12/2015-10-formulae.html

Just a small clarification... Hebrew word "cos" means "cup" (as in cup of 
coffee). It is used in
this picture in slightly different manner...

Boris




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Re: PESO - Bismuth Crystal

[Larry Colen]

Agate the idea that you aren't as jaded as you seem. I hear that your such a 
nice guy you'd give someone the chert off your back.

On December 15, 2015 8:36:03 PM PST, Mark C  wrote:
>Thanks, Larry. After a rocky start I think the way ahead is crystal
>clear...
>
>Mark
>
>On 12/15/2015 5:33 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> Very nice.  You're certainly getting good at what you do when you
>mind 
>> your own bismuth.
>>
>> Mark C wrote:
>>> Continuing experiments with minerals - this is a 4x lifesized close
>up
>>> of a bismuth crystal:
>>>
>>> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/bismuth-crystal
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/23671905071/
>>>
>>> K01 with reverse mounted SMC K 24 f3.5, 70 stacked images. I could
>not
>>> position a flash well to shoot into the crystal (it is very 3
>>> dimensional) so I used ambient light which resulted in a shutter
>speed
>>> of 0.4 seconds per shot. I would prefer to use the flash to counter
>any
>>> vibration related blur, but the long exposures came out OK.
>>>
>>> Comments welcome.
>>>
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Re: PESO - The Strand

[ann sanfedele]

I thought it was going to be the book store(kidding)

Like the shot - wouldn't have liked to have been there, tho
looks as bad as Times Square

ann

On 12/15/2015 8:54 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

London, one evening a couple of weeks ago:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18140725&size=lg

(K-5, DA 50-200)

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Re: PESO - Bismuth Crystal

[Mark C]

Thanks, Larry. After a rocky start I think the way ahead is crystal clear...

Mark

On 12/15/2015 5:33 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
Very nice.  You're certainly getting good at what you do when you mind 
your own bismuth.


Mark C wrote:

Continuing experiments with minerals - this is a 4x lifesized close up
of a bismuth crystal:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/bismuth-crystal

or

https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/23671905071/

K01 with reverse mounted SMC K 24 f3.5, 70 stacked images. I could not
position a flash well to shoot into the crystal (it is very 3
dimensional) so I used ambient light which resulted in a shutter speed
of 0.4 seconds per shot. I would prefer to use the flash to counter any
vibration related blur, but the long exposures came out OK.

Comments welcome.

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Re: PESO - Bismuth Crystal

[Ken Waller]

I knew we were slated for that comment.


-Original Message-
>From: Rick Womer 
>Subject: Re: PESO - Bismuth Crystal
>
>And take nothing for granite.
>
>
>On Dec 15, 2015, at 6:44 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>
>> ann sanfedele wrote:
>> 
>>> On 12/15/2015 5:33 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
 Very nice.  You're certainly getting good at what you do when you mind 
 your own bismuth.
>>> Certainly rock solid
>> 
>> Chalk it up to experience.
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Re: PESO - The Strand

[Ken Waller]

Looks like a lively street.


-Original Message-
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>Subject: PESO - The Strand
>
>London, one evening a couple of weeks ago:
>
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18140725&size=lg
>
>(K-5, DA 50-200)
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>Comments appreciated.
>
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Re: Peso-Rolling Dohicky

[Jack Davis]

Lol! 

J

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To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 7:46:22 PM
Subject: Re: Peso-Rolling Dohicky

And there aren't many of us left...

On 12/15/2015 7:34 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
> I finally get it, Paul. You're a doohickey authority!
>
> J
>
>
>
>
>
> J
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 15, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Paul  wrote:
>>
>> Looks to me like a Model 3 Doohickey, manufactured in 1911 by the Patootie 
>> Company of Gibson, TN.  The cylindrical shape was to keep the fruit from 
>> sticking in any corners of the container.  Sadly, they went out of business 
>> with the crash of 1929 when the bottom fell out of the Doohickey market.
>>
>> -p
>>
>>> On 12/15/2015 6:23 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> - Forwarded Message -
>>> From: "Jack Davis" 
>>> To: "PDML" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 4:19:08 PM
>>> Subject: Peso-Rolling Dohicky
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Noticed this parked on the edge of a mystery orchard.
>>> Like to photograph old worn rusty stuff and thought
>>> this qualified.
>>> it was a curious photo target.
>>> No prizes, but anyone have an idea what it is/was used for.
>>>
>>> J
>>>
>>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1011
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Re: Peso-Rolling Dohicky

[Paul]

And there aren't many of us left...

On 12/15/2015 7:34 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

I finally get it, Paul. You're a doohickey authority!

J





J


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 15, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Paul  wrote:

Looks to me like a Model 3 Doohickey, manufactured in 1911 by the Patootie 
Company of Gibson, TN.  The cylindrical shape was to keep the fruit from 
sticking in any corners of the container.  Sadly, they went out of business 
with the crash of 1929 when the bottom fell out of the Doohickey market.

-p


On 12/15/2015 6:23 PM, Jack Davis wrote:


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From: "Jack Davis" 
To: "PDML" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 4:19:08 PM
Subject: Peso-Rolling Dohicky



Noticed this parked on the edge of a mystery orchard.
Like to photograph old worn rusty stuff and thought
this qualified.
it was a curious photo target.
No prizes, but anyone have an idea what it is/was used for.

J

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1011


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Re: quick and dirty panorama exposure comparison

[Paul]

The demo is somewhat limited.  The newest "paid for" version - v3.7 - 
will save as JPGs, TIFs, and PNGs.  That's the one that will do batch 
conversions, too.


-p

On 12/15/2015 7:27 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



Paul wrote:

Check out EasyHDR...

http://www.easyhdr.com/


Thanks.



It's on sale for just a shade over 30 bucks; you can batch process with
it and it comes with a plug-in so you can call it up from within
Lightroom.


Interesting, I downloaded the demo and tried a couple of quick
experiments.  It seems to do much more of the tone mapping by default,
rather than the Adobe simply expanding the dynamic range.  A quick RTFM
seems to imply that it can generate the expanded range raw files, but
the free demo says that it only produces jpegs.

I'll have to take a closer look at it, but right now I don't have quite
enough free time to save that much time.




-p

On 12/15/2015 3:19 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


8) I wish I could just point Lightroom to a folder/directory and just
tell it to make HDR versions of the lightest and darkest exposures of
all of the bracketed frames, rather than having to manually do each one.








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Re: Peso - untitled street shot

[ann sanfedele]

thanks Rick!
ann

On 12/15/2015 9:04 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Great shot, Ann!

I love the interplay of circles, lines, rectangles, and colors.

Rick

On Dec 15, 2015, at 12:37 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:


walked to Chinatown on Sunday to get new eyeglasses  - this was along the way

https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2015-and-all-that/i-kgVCc8M/A

K-5 and DA 18-55

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Re: Peso - untitled street shot

[Rick Womer]

Great shot, Ann! 

I love the interplay of circles, lines, rectangles, and colors.

Rick

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> walked to Chinatown on Sunday to get new eyeglasses  - this was along the way
> 
> https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2015-and-all-that/i-kgVCc8M/A
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Re: PESO - Bismuth Crystal

[Rick Womer]

All punning aside, Mark (at least for a minute or two), both of the fossil and 
mineral photos are gorgeous. They're well worth printing LARGE and framing.

Rick

On Dec 15, 2015, at 11:33 AM, Mark C wrote:

> Continuing experiments with minerals - this is a 4x lifesized close up of a 
> bismuth crystal:
> 
> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/bismuth-crystal
> 
> or
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/23671905071/
> 
> K01 with reverse mounted SMC K 24 f3.5, 70 stacked images. I could not 
> position a flash well to shoot into the crystal (it is very 3 dimensional) so 
> I used ambient light which resulted in a shutter speed of 0.4 seconds per 
> shot. I would prefer to use the flash to counter any vibration related blur, 
> but the long exposures came out OK.
> 
> Comments welcome.
> 
> Mark
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Re: PESO - Bismuth Crystal

[Rick Womer]

And take nothing for granite.


On Dec 15, 2015, at 6:44 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

> ann sanfedele wrote:
> 
>> On 12/15/2015 5:33 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>>> Very nice.  You're certainly getting good at what you do when you mind 
>>> your own bismuth.
>> Certainly rock solid
> 
> Chalk it up to experience.
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PESO - The Strand

[Rick Womer]

London, one evening a couple of weeks ago:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18140725&size=lg

(K-5, DA 50-200)

Comments appreciated.

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Re: Peso-Rolling Dohicky

[Jack Davis]

I finally get it, Paul. You're a doohickey authority!

J





J


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 15, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Paul  wrote:
> 
> Looks to me like a Model 3 Doohickey, manufactured in 1911 by the Patootie 
> Company of Gibson, TN.  The cylindrical shape was to keep the fruit from 
> sticking in any corners of the container.  Sadly, they went out of business 
> with the crash of 1929 when the bottom fell out of the Doohickey market.
> 
> -p
> 
>> On 12/15/2015 6:23 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> - Forwarded Message -
>> From: "Jack Davis" 
>> To: "PDML" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 4:19:08 PM
>> Subject: Peso-Rolling Dohicky
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Noticed this parked on the edge of a mystery orchard.
>> Like to photograph old worn rusty stuff and thought
>> this qualified.
>> it was a curious photo target.
>> No prizes, but anyone have an idea what it is/was used for.
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1011
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Re: quick and dirty panorama exposure comparison

[Larry Colen]

Paul wrote:

Check out EasyHDR...

http://www.easyhdr.com/


Thanks.



It's on sale for just a shade over 30 bucks; you can batch process with
it and it comes with a plug-in so you can call it up from within Lightroom.


Interesting, I downloaded the demo and tried a couple of quick 
experiments.  It seems to do much more of the tone mapping by default, 
rather than the Adobe simply expanding the dynamic range.  A quick RTFM 
seems to imply that it can generate the expanded range raw files, but 
the free demo says that it only produces jpegs.


I'll have to take a closer look at it, but right now I don't have quite 
enough free time to save that much time.





-p

On 12/15/2015 3:19 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


8) I wish I could just point Lightroom to a folder/directory and just
tell it to make HDR versions of the lightest and darkest exposures of
all of the bracketed frames, rather than having to manually do each one.






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Re: Peso-Rolling Dohicky

[Jack Davis]

No they don't. They look more like
milk trees. :)

J

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> On Dec 15, 2015, at 4:42 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> well since it is in that orchard - some sort of a press to extract juice?  
> just guessing... I'd have said cider press but those sure don't look
> like apple trees.
> 
> ann
> 
>> On 12/15/2015 7:23 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> 
>> - Forwarded Message -
>> From: "Jack Davis" 
>> To: "PDML" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 4:19:08 PM
>> Subject: Peso-Rolling Dohicky
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Noticed this parked on the edge of a mystery orchard.
>> Like to photograph old worn rusty stuff and thought
>> this qualified.
>> it was a curious photo target.
>> No prizes, but anyone have an idea what it is/was used for.
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1011
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Re: Fwd: Peso-Rolling Dohicky

[Paul]

Looks to me like a Model 3 Doohickey, manufactured in 1911 by the 
Patootie Company of Gibson, TN.  The cylindrical shape was to keep the 
fruit from sticking in any corners of the container.  Sadly, they went 
out of business with the crash of 1929 when the bottom fell out of the 
Doohickey market.


-p

On 12/15/2015 6:23 PM, Jack Davis wrote:



- Forwarded Message -
From: "Jack Davis" 
To: "PDML" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 4:19:08 PM
Subject: Peso-Rolling Dohicky



Noticed this parked on the edge of a mystery orchard.
Like to photograph old worn rusty stuff and thought
this qualified.
it was a curious photo target.
No prizes, but anyone have an idea what it is/was used for.

J

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1011



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Re: Fwd: Peso-Rolling Dohicky

[ann sanfedele]

well since it is in that orchard - some sort of a press to extract 
juice?  just guessing... I'd have said cider press but those sure don't look

like apple trees.

ann

On 12/15/2015 7:23 PM, Jack Davis wrote:


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From: "Jack Davis" 
To: "PDML" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 4:19:08 PM
Subject: Peso-Rolling Dohicky



Noticed this parked on the edge of a mystery orchard.
Like to photograph old worn rusty stuff and thought
this qualified.
it was a curious photo target.
No prizes, but anyone have an idea what it is/was used for.

J

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1011




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Fwd: Peso-Rolling Dohicky

[Jack Davis]

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Subject: Peso-Rolling Dohicky



Noticed this parked on the edge of a mystery orchard.
Like to photograph old worn rusty stuff and thought
this qualified.
it was a curious photo target.
No prizes, but anyone have an idea what it is/was used for.

J

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1011

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Peso-Rolling Dohicky

[Jack Davis]

Noticed this parked on the edge of a mystery orchard.
Like to photograph old worn rusty stuff and thought
this qualified.
it was a curious photo target.
No prizes, but anyone have an idea what it is/was used for.

J

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Re: quick and dirty panorama exposure comparison

[Paul]

Check out EasyHDR...

http://www.easyhdr.com/

It's on sale for just a shade over 30 bucks; you can batch process with 
it and it comes with a plug-in so you can call it up from within Lightroom.


-p

On 12/15/2015 3:19 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


8) I wish I could just point Lightroom to a folder/directory and just
tell it to make HDR versions of the lightest and darkest exposures of
all of the bracketed frames, rather than having to manually do each one.




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Re: PESO - Bismuth Crystal

[Mark Roberts]

ann sanfedele wrote:

>On 12/15/2015 5:33 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> Very nice.  You're certainly getting good at what you do when you mind 
>> your own bismuth.
>  Certainly rock solid

Chalk it up to experience.
 
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Re: PESO - Bismuth Crystal

[ann sanfedele]

On 12/15/2015 5:33 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
Very nice.  You're certainly getting good at what you do when you mind 
your own bismuth.

 Certainly rock solid

ann


Mark C wrote:

Continuing experiments with minerals - this is a 4x lifesized close up
of a bismuth crystal:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/bismuth-crystal

or

https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/23671905071/

K01 with reverse mounted SMC K 24 f3.5, 70 stacked images. I could not
position a flash well to shoot into the crystal (it is very 3
dimensional) so I used ambient light which resulted in a shutter speed
of 0.4 seconds per shot. I would prefer to use the flash to counter any
vibration related blur, but the long exposures came out OK.

Comments welcome.

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Re: Peso-OMG!

[Jack Davis]

Makes it spookier, Larry.

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 15, 2015, at 1:27 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Jack Davis wrote:
>> 
>> I was trekking through Gray Lodge Preserve this morning when "this" appeared 
>> to jump
>> from behind a tree.
>> When I thought the SR had recovered, I shot it.
>> 
>> Nonsense, but thought it had a unique form about .
>> 
>> C&C?
> 
> IN general, the composition is nice, but on my display (27" apple display 
> calibrate with a colormunki) the highlights are close to blown out and the 
> shadow detail is almost completely lost.
> 
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1010
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Peso-OMG!

[Larry Colen]

Jack Davis wrote:


I was trekking through Gray Lodge Preserve this morning when "this" appeared to 
jump
from behind a tree.
When I thought the SR had recovered, I shot it.

Nonsense, but thought it had a unique form about .

C&C?


IN general, the composition is nice, but on my display (27" apple 
display calibrate with a colormunki) the highlights are close to blown 
out and the shadow detail is almost completely lost.




J

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Re: DFA 150-450, first impression

[Paul Stenquist]

Flaunting tauntingly? Good.

Paul via phone

> On Dec 15, 2015, at 6:13 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> 
> Well, it would be appreciated, but 
> I expect others will soon be happily
> flaunting this lens tauntingly.
> 
> J
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 15, 2015, at 2:59 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, when I can shoot some pics I will post them. Still socked in with gray 
>> skies and lots of work.
>> 
>> Paul via phone
>> 
>>> On Dec 15, 2015, at 5:52 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK, but in this this case, 
>>> listers will
>>> be hoping to make a realistic judgment of the lens' practical performance.
>>> 
>>> J
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Dec 15, 2015, at 2:37 PM, Paul Stenquist  
 wrote:
 
 I’ve found that K3 images in general require very little sharpening, 
 depending on the lens of course. This seemed particularly true in 
 comparison to K5 images. However, I always do some sharpening when working 
 on a photo for presentation. I work for a best subjective look, but do it 
 at 100% on my 2560 x 1440 monitor. But for testing purposes, I don’t 
 sharpen. That’s particularly important when shooting for fine focus 
 adjustment. Being able to clearly differentiate the difference in 
 sharpness is helpful. Here, I wanted to see exactly what the lens and 
 sensor could accomplish on their own. That being said there’s some default 
 sharpening in a photoshop RAW conversion. Mine is set at Adobe’s default 
 value, whatever that may be. 
> On Dec 15, 2015, at 5:02 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> 
> Paul,
> I recall your mentioning not having done any sharpening to the 150-450 
> examples you posted.
> I think that some moderate sharpening certainly and even a tad of ERC 
> "clarify" would be
> reasonable and more realistic. 
> I believe it's intended that digital images be sharpened.
> 
> J
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Paul Stenquist" 
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 1:03:01 PM
> Subject: DFA 150-450, first impression
> 
> The 150-450 zoom arrived today. It’s dark and gloomy in Michigan and 
> raining intermittently, so I resisted the urge to go looking for birds 
> and instead set the fine focus adjustment, then took a couple of sample 
> pics. My tests showed the lens was back focusing a bit, and a +4 setting 
> brought it right in throughout the range. It’s built like a tank, there’s 
> no wobble or looseness, and the zoom is as tight as any lens i’ve ever 
> owned. (One reviewer mentioned zoom creep. If that ever was a problem, 
> it’s definitely been resolved. You have to expend a fair amount of effort 
> to change the focal length.) I shot some dead ferns off a tripod at 
> 450mm, ISO 3200, f5.6, 1/60th. 
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18141845&size=lg
> 
> Here’s a 100% crop of the area where I placed the focal point 
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18141846&size=lg
> 
> Very pleased thus far. Can’t wait to try it out on some birdies.
> 
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Re: DFA 150-450, first impression

[Jack Davis]

Well, it would be appreciated, but 
I expect others will soon be happily
flaunting this lens tauntingly.

J



Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 15, 2015, at 2:59 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> Well, when I can shoot some pics I will post them. Still socked in with gray 
> skies and lots of work.
> 
> Paul via phone
> 
>> On Dec 15, 2015, at 5:52 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> 
>> OK, but in this this case, 
>> listers will
>> be hoping to make a realistic judgment of the lens' practical performance.
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 15, 2015, at 2:37 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve found that K3 images in general require very little sharpening, 
>>> depending on the lens of course. This seemed particularly true in 
>>> comparison to K5 images. However, I always do some sharpening when working 
>>> on a photo for presentation. I work for a best subjective look, but do it 
>>> at 100% on my 2560 x 1440 monitor. But for testing purposes, I don’t 
>>> sharpen. That’s particularly important when shooting for fine focus 
>>> adjustment. Being able to clearly differentiate the difference in sharpness 
>>> is helpful. Here, I wanted to see exactly what the lens and sensor could 
>>> accomplish on their own. That being said there’s some default sharpening in 
>>> a photoshop RAW conversion. Mine is set at Adobe’s default value, whatever 
>>> that may be. 
 On Dec 15, 2015, at 5:02 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
 
 Paul,
 I recall your mentioning not having done any sharpening to the 150-450 
 examples you posted.
 I think that some moderate sharpening certainly and even a tad of ERC 
 "clarify" would be
 reasonable and more realistic. 
 I believe it's intended that digital images be sharpened.
 
 J
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Paul Stenquist" 
 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
 Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 1:03:01 PM
 Subject: DFA 150-450, first impression
 
 The 150-450 zoom arrived today. It’s dark and gloomy in Michigan and 
 raining intermittently, so I resisted the urge to go looking for birds and 
 instead set the fine focus adjustment, then took a couple of sample pics. 
 My tests showed the lens was back focusing a bit, and a +4 setting brought 
 it right in throughout the range. It’s built like a tank, there’s no 
 wobble or looseness, and the zoom is as tight as any lens i’ve ever owned. 
 (One reviewer mentioned zoom creep. If that ever was a problem, it’s 
 definitely been resolved. You have to expend a fair amount of effort to 
 change the focal length.) I shot some dead ferns off a tripod at 450mm, 
 ISO 3200, f5.6, 1/60th. 
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18141845&size=lg
 
 Here’s a 100% crop of the area where I placed the focal point 
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18141846&size=lg
 
 Very pleased thus far. Can’t wait to try it out on some birdies.
 
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Re: DFA 150-450, first impression

[Paul Stenquist]

Well, when I can shoot some pics I will post them. Still socked in with gray 
skies and lots of work.

Paul via phone

> On Dec 15, 2015, at 5:52 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> 
> OK, but in this this case, 
> listers will
> be hoping to make a realistic judgment of the lens' practical performance.
> 
> J
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 15, 2015, at 2:37 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve found that K3 images in general require very little sharpening, 
>> depending on the lens of course. This seemed particularly true in comparison 
>> to K5 images. However, I always do some sharpening when working on a photo 
>> for presentation. I work for a best subjective look, but do it at 100% on my 
>> 2560 x 1440 monitor. But for testing purposes, I don’t sharpen. That’s 
>> particularly important when shooting for fine focus adjustment. Being able 
>> to clearly differentiate the difference in sharpness is helpful. Here, I 
>> wanted to see exactly what the lens and sensor could accomplish on their 
>> own. That being said there’s some default sharpening in a photoshop RAW 
>> conversion. Mine is set at Adobe’s default value, whatever that may be. 
>>> On Dec 15, 2015, at 5:02 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Paul,
>>> I recall your mentioning not having done any sharpening to the 150-450 
>>> examples you posted.
>>> I think that some moderate sharpening certainly and even a tad of ERC 
>>> "clarify" would be
>>> reasonable and more realistic. 
>>> I believe it's intended that digital images be sharpened.
>>> 
>>> J
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Paul Stenquist" 
>>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>>> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 1:03:01 PM
>>> Subject: DFA 150-450, first impression
>>> 
>>> The 150-450 zoom arrived today. It’s dark and gloomy in Michigan and 
>>> raining intermittently, so I resisted the urge to go looking for birds and 
>>> instead set the fine focus adjustment, then took a couple of sample pics. 
>>> My tests showed the lens was back focusing a bit, and a +4 setting brought 
>>> it right in throughout the range. It’s built like a tank, there’s no wobble 
>>> or looseness, and the zoom is as tight as any lens i’ve ever owned. (One 
>>> reviewer mentioned zoom creep. If that ever was a problem, it’s definitely 
>>> been resolved. You have to expend a fair amount of effort to change the 
>>> focal length.) I shot some dead ferns off a tripod at 450mm, ISO 3200, 
>>> f5.6, 1/60th. 
>>> 
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18141845&size=lg
>>> 
>>> Here’s a 100% crop of the area where I placed the focal point 
>>> 
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18141846&size=lg
>>> 
>>> Very pleased thus far. Can’t wait to try it out on some birdies.
>>> 
>>> Paul
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Re: DFA 150-450, first impression

[Jack Davis]

OK, but in this this case, 
listers will
be hoping to make a realistic judgment of the lens' practical performance.

J
 







Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 15, 2015, at 2:37 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> I’ve found that K3 images in general require very little sharpening, 
> depending on the lens of course. This seemed particularly true in comparison 
> to K5 images. However, I always do some sharpening when working on a photo 
> for presentation. I work for a best subjective look, but do it at 100% on my 
> 2560 x 1440 monitor. But for testing purposes, I don’t sharpen. That’s 
> particularly important when shooting for fine focus adjustment. Being able to 
> clearly differentiate the difference in sharpness is helpful. Here, I wanted 
> to see exactly what the lens and sensor could accomplish on their own. That 
> being said there’s some default sharpening in a photoshop RAW conversion. 
> Mine is set at Adobe’s default value, whatever that may be. 
>> On Dec 15, 2015, at 5:02 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> 
>> Paul,
>> I recall your mentioning not having done any sharpening to the 150-450 
>> examples you posted.
>> I think that some moderate sharpening certainly and even a tad of ERC 
>> "clarify" would be
>> reasonable and more realistic. 
>> I believe it's intended that digital images be sharpened.
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Paul Stenquist" 
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 1:03:01 PM
>> Subject: DFA 150-450, first impression
>> 
>> The 150-450 zoom arrived today. It’s dark and gloomy in Michigan and raining 
>> intermittently, so I resisted the urge to go looking for birds and instead 
>> set the fine focus adjustment, then took a couple of sample pics. My tests 
>> showed the lens was back focusing a bit, and a +4 setting brought it right 
>> in throughout the range. It’s built like a tank, there’s no wobble or 
>> looseness, and the zoom is as tight as any lens i’ve ever owned. (One 
>> reviewer mentioned zoom creep. If that ever was a problem, it’s definitely 
>> been resolved. You have to expend a fair amount of effort to change the 
>> focal length.) I shot some dead ferns off a tripod at 450mm, ISO 3200, f5.6, 
>> 1/60th. 
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18141845&size=lg
>> 
>> Here’s a 100% crop of the area where I placed the focal point 
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18141846&size=lg
>> 
>> Very pleased thus far. Can’t wait to try it out on some birdies.
>> 
>> Paul
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Invitation to annual Dec 25th gathering

[Larry Colen]

If you are within visiting distance of Santa Cruz CA and are at loose 
ends on Dec 25th, Zab and I will be continuing our annual tradition of 
inviting folks over for good food and company.  At some point during the 
day, there will be the traditional Whiskymas tasting of a wee dram or 
two, at least for those of us who partake.  Since Zab doesn't care for 
scotch, she'll probably do her protest tasting of chocolate.


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Re: DFA 150-450, first impression

[Paul Stenquist]

I’ve found that K3 images in general require very little sharpening, depending 
on the lens of course. This seemed particularly true in comparison to K5 
images. However, I always do some sharpening when working on a photo for 
presentation. I work for a best subjective look, but do it at 100% on my 2560 x 
1440 monitor. But for testing purposes, I don’t sharpen. That’s particularly 
important when shooting for fine focus adjustment. Being able to clearly 
differentiate the difference in sharpness is helpful. Here, I wanted to see 
exactly what the lens and sensor could accomplish on their own. That being said 
there’s some default sharpening in a photoshop RAW conversion. Mine is set at 
Adobe’s default value, whatever that may be. 
> On Dec 15, 2015, at 5:02 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> 
> Paul,
> I recall your mentioning not having done any sharpening to the 150-450 
> examples you posted.
> I think that some moderate sharpening certainly and even a tad of ERC 
> "clarify" would be
> reasonable and more realistic. 
> I believe it's intended that digital images be sharpened.
> 
> J
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Paul Stenquist" 
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 1:03:01 PM
> Subject: DFA 150-450, first impression
> 
> The 150-450 zoom arrived today. It’s dark and gloomy in Michigan and raining 
> intermittently, so I resisted the urge to go looking for birds and instead 
> set the fine focus adjustment, then took a couple of sample pics. My tests 
> showed the lens was back focusing a bit, and a +4 setting brought it right in 
> throughout the range. It’s built like a tank, there’s no wobble or looseness, 
> and the zoom is as tight as any lens i’ve ever owned. (One reviewer mentioned 
> zoom creep. If that ever was a problem, it’s definitely been resolved. You 
> have to expend a fair amount of effort to change the focal length.) I shot 
> some dead ferns off a tripod at 450mm, ISO 3200, f5.6, 1/60th. 
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18141845&size=lg
> 
> Here’s a 100% crop of the area where I placed the focal point 
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18141846&size=lg
> 
> Very pleased thus far. Can’t wait to try it out on some birdies.
> 
> Paul
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Re: PESO - Bismuth Crystal

[Larry Colen]

Very nice.  You're certainly getting good at what you do when you mind 
your own bismuth.


Mark C wrote:

Continuing experiments with minerals - this is a 4x lifesized close up
of a bismuth crystal:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/bismuth-crystal

or

https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/23671905071/

K01 with reverse mounted SMC K 24 f3.5, 70 stacked images. I could not
position a flash well to shoot into the crystal (it is very 3
dimensional) so I used ambient light which resulted in a shutter speed
of 0.4 seconds per shot. I would prefer to use the flash to counter any
vibration related blur, but the long exposures came out OK.

Comments welcome.

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Re: Which eye do you put to the viewfinder?

[Mark C]

Thanks, Ken - interesting. Left eyed here.

On 12/15/2015 2:23 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

Check out http://tinyurl.com/prdm2cx to see which eye is dominant

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - From: "Mark C" 
Subject: Re: Which eye do you put to the viewfinder?


Left handed but I use either eye for the finder. It may be my 
imagination but I notice a slight difference between each eye and 
some days one eye seems better than the other.



On 12/13/2015 12:40 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

A little informal PDML survey...

Q: Are you right-handed or left-handed (or ambidextrous)
A:

Q: When you use a camera viewfinder, which eye do you put to the 
viewfinder?

A:

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put the viewfinder to my right eye. However, a recent eye examination
has discovered that I have cataracts and my right eye is significantly
worse. With a new prescription they say they can get me to 20/25 and
I'll need cataract surgery eventually, but I'm wondering if, in the
meantime, I can successfully train myself to use my left eye to the
viewfinder.






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Re: PESO - Bismuth Crystal

[Mark C]

Thanks, Ann. I think I know what you mean wrt cross polarization - but 
this is just a straight macro photo. The bismuth just has a colorful 
iridescent sheen. Thanks for looking!


Mark

On 12/15/2015 11:44 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
This looks like photos taken through a microscope of a thin section of 
rock using "crossed Nichols"
Is the technique you used similar?  I spy bi-refringence - or the 
appearance of same...


Aren't rocks beautiful?

ann

On 12/15/2015 11:33 AM, Mark C wrote:
Continuing experiments with minerals - this is a 4x lifesized close 
up of a bismuth crystal:


http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/bismuth-crystal

or

https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/23671905071/

K01 with reverse mounted SMC K 24 f3.5, 70 stacked images. I could 
not position a flash well to shoot into the crystal (it is very 3 
dimensional) so I used ambient light which resulted in a shutter 
speed of 0.4 seconds per shot. I would prefer to use the flash to 
counter any vibration related blur, but the long exposures came out OK.


Comments welcome.

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Re: DFA 150-450, first impression

[Jack Davis]

Paul,
I recall your mentioning not having done any sharpening to the 150-450 examples 
you posted.
I think that some moderate sharpening certainly and even a tad of ERC "clarify" 
would be
reasonable and more realistic. 
I believe it's intended that digital images be sharpened.

J

- Original Message -
From: "Paul Stenquist" 
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Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 1:03:01 PM
Subject: DFA 150-450, first impression

The 150-450 zoom arrived today. It’s dark and gloomy in Michigan and raining 
intermittently, so I resisted the urge to go looking for birds and instead set 
the fine focus adjustment, then took a couple of sample pics. My tests showed 
the lens was back focusing a bit, and a +4 setting brought it right in 
throughout the range. It’s built like a tank, there’s no wobble or looseness, 
and the zoom is as tight as any lens i’ve ever owned. (One reviewer mentioned 
zoom creep. If that ever was a problem, it’s definitely been resolved. You have 
to expend a fair amount of effort to change the focal length.) I shot some dead 
ferns off a tripod at 450mm, ISO 3200, f5.6, 1/60th. 

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18141845&size=lg

Here’s a 100% crop of the area where I placed the focal point 

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18141846&size=lg

Very pleased thus far. Can’t wait to try it out on some birdies.

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Re: Holidays

[Paul Stenquist]

Excellent! Thanks for posting and Merry Christmas!
Paul 
> On Dec 15, 2015, at 4:11 PM, WILSON MICHAEL  wrote:
> 
> https://youtu.be/H965m0Hkk5M
> 
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Re: Peso-OMG!

[Jack Davis]

8-))

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 15, 2015, at 1:12 PM, Bulent Celasun  wrote:
> 
> I was thinking of "The Murders in the Rue Morgue";
> but
> why not!
> 
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> 2015-12-15 23:00 GMT+02:00 Jack Davis :
>> Raven?
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Bulent Celasun" 
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 12:39:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: Peso-OMG!
>> 
>> Edgar Allan Poe mentioned him once ;)
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 2015-12-15 22:35 GMT+02:00 Jack Davis :
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I was trekking through Gray Lodge Preserve this morning when "this" 
>>> appeared to jump
>>> from behind a tree.
>>> When I thought the SR had recovered, I shot it.
>>> 
>>> Nonsense, but thought it had a unique form about .
>>> 
>>> C&C?
>>> 
>>> J
>>> 
>>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1010
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>>> 
>>> 
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quick and dirty panorama exposure comparison

[Larry Colen]

Yesterday afternoon I made run to the hardware store and thought the 
sunset clouds behind the old sawdust burning oven looked interesting.

I tried shooting a few panoramas, bracketing by +/- 2 stops.

Here are three different panos, one from the fastest shutter speed 
(1/100), one from the middle (1/25) and one from an HDR from the fastest 
and slowest (1/100+ 1/16), all processed in lightroom 6.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157662305853371

My conclusions are:
1) the K-3 has enough dynamic range that for a lot of shots, if you're 
willing to take the time HDR isn't completely necessary to get a decent 
shot, particularly at ISO 100.


2) The lightroom auto-toning of HDR works a *LOT* better than their 
normal auto-toning and get the exposure a lot closer to what I want.


3) While the final outcome in lightroom between HDR and not may not be 
dramatic, it's a lot quicker to get the good results using their HDR.


4) I really ought to use a tripod at 1/6 second.

5) With the incredible dynamic range of the K-3 sensor, I really want 
more than a maximum of two stops of bracketing per frame. Seriously, 
when you compare the raw files two stops out of 12 or 14 are barely 
noticeable.  I want +/-4 stops.
Mind you, +/- 2 stops might make a difference if you're the sort of 
tosser that shoots in jpeg.


6) With the dynamic range of the K-3, I really wish that Lightroom had a 
larger range of adjustment on all of their sliders, particularly in HDR 
mode.


7) I really wish that Lightroom let me select regions from various 
frames that I explicitly want to include in or exclude from either HDR 
or panorama frames.


8) I wish I could just point Lightroom to a folder/directory and just 
tell it to make HDR versions of the lightest and darkest exposures of 
all of the bracketed frames, rather than having to manually do each one.



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Re: Peso-OMG!

[Bulent Celasun]

I was thinking of "The Murders in the Rue Morgue";
but
why not!

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2015-12-15 23:00 GMT+02:00 Jack Davis :
> Raven?
>
> J
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bulent Celasun" 
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 12:39:09 PM
> Subject: Re: Peso-OMG!
>
> Edgar Allan Poe mentioned him once ;)
>
>
> Bulent
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>
>
> 2015-12-15 22:35 GMT+02:00 Jack Davis :
>>
>>
>> I was trekking through Gray Lodge Preserve this morning when "this" appeared 
>> to jump
>> from behind a tree.
>> When I thought the SR had recovered, I shot it.
>>
>> Nonsense, but thought it had a unique form about .
>>
>> C&C?
>>
>> J
>>
>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1010
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Holidays

[WILSON MICHAEL]

https://youtu.be/H965m0Hkk5M

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Re: Peso-OMG!

[Jack Davis]

Raven?

J

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Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 12:39:09 PM
Subject: Re: Peso-OMG!

Edgar Allan Poe mentioned him once ;)


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2015-12-15 22:35 GMT+02:00 Jack Davis :
>
>
> I was trekking through Gray Lodge Preserve this morning when "this" appeared 
> to jump
> from behind a tree.
> When I thought the SR had recovered, I shot it.
>
> Nonsense, but thought it had a unique form about .
>
> C&C?
>
> J
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> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1010
>
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>
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Re: I hate automatic "upgrades".

[steve harley]

On 2015-12-15 13:08 , Ken Waller wrote:

...so Windows, Chromebook and Android users are out of luck;


Googling Facetime for PC yields several articles.

Its on the internet ,,, so it must be true


anything from that search that promises actual compatibility with Apple 
Facetime is likely malware just crying out for you to install it


for those attracted to Facetime vs. Skype because of the end-to-end 
encryption, Signal is an alternative that runs on iOS & Android (desktop 
versions coming):




(it can do voice & text, and can send video messages, but can't yet do 
real-time two-way video messaging)


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Re: Peso-OMG!

[Bulent Celasun]

Edgar Allan Poe mentioned him once ;)


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2015-12-15 22:35 GMT+02:00 Jack Davis :
>
>
> I was trekking through Gray Lodge Preserve this morning when "this" appeared 
> to jump
> from behind a tree.
> When I thought the SR had recovered, I shot it.
>
> Nonsense, but thought it had a unique form about .
>
> C&C?
>
> J
>
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>
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Peso-OMG!

[Jack Davis]

I was trekking through Gray Lodge Preserve this morning when "this" appeared to 
jump
from behind a tree. 
When I thought the SR had recovered, I shot it.

Nonsense, but thought it had a unique form about .

C&C?

J

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1010








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Re: I hate automatic "upgrades".

[Ken Waller]

...so Windows, Chromebook and Android users are out of luck;


Googling Facetime for PC yields several articles.

Its on the internet ,,, so it must be true

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "steve harley" 

Subject: Re: I hate automatic "upgrades".



On 2015-12-15 12:29 , Ken Waller wrote:

My son uses an applcation called Facetime. Much improved over Skype IMO.


Facetime is built into OS X (Macs) and iOS (iPads & iPhones), so Windows, 
Chromebook and Android users are out of luck; Facetime is pretty nice, 
though — i have mediocre cellular signal at home, so if i am on a call and 
start breaking up, i can tap the Facetime button and my call is converted 
to a video call over wifi with great clarity



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Re: I hate automatic "upgrades".

[steve harley]

On 2015-12-15 12:29 , Ken Waller wrote:

My son uses an applcation called Facetime. Much improved over Skype IMO.


Facetime is built into OS X (Macs) and iOS (iPads & iPhones), so Windows, 
Chromebook and Android users are out of luck; Facetime is pretty nice, 
though — i have mediocre cellular signal at home, so if i am on a call and 
start breaking up, i can tap the Facetime button and my call is converted to 
a video call over wifi with great clarity




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Re: I hate automatic "upgrades".

[Igor PDML-StR]

P.J.

I feel your pain.
As a part of a routine, I forbid all the software to update without my 
permission.
For some pieces of software, this required some "hacking" (I closed 
connections for Adobe products so they cannot connect the update server, 
and also manually changed some registries.)


The only piece of software that is not completely blocked off is Viber.

As for Skype, - I am holding on to 6.20.0.104, while it lasts
(until one day, MS will close access for the older versions, as they've 
done previously with version 4.x and 5.x).


The requirement for upgrading IE is wierd! It is probably due to the 
latest version of Skype relying on MS' library that is implemented in IE. 
(Oh, yes, they are trying to display links within the skype window now.

Lame and atrocious!
 They killed Kenny, b...ds!

Let's resume the Happy Holiday Cheers! :)

Igor


P.J. Alling Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:51:07 -0800 wrote:

I have, probably only one person I talk to or chat with on Skype, but it's 
installed on my Laptop and Desktop, and used to be automatically started 
when I started both machines. Not anymore. The last Skype "improvement" of 
my experience, now causes any graphics oriented software to almost choke 
while Skype is running. Geeze, first it required me to upgrade to a later 
version of Internet Explorer, (a program I never use on my desktop), then, 
next time I opened DXO Optics Pro the response of any control was so laggy 
I at first thought that the program had frozen. Photoshop was noticeably 
slower too, even a lightweight program like Irfanview was effected. Tried 
to open the Task manager* and the tasks and programs didn't have enough 
video memory to populate the lists when it finally appeared, some controls 
didn't initialize.



I know I don't have the most advanced video card, or the most video 
memory, but sheesh, the graphical interface on Skype is pretty 
underwhelming, what the fuck, (excuse my language, but I'm a bit 
frustrated here), is Skype doing with all those resources.



*Which really told me nothing, when I finally got it to work since it's 
mostly silent on video usage. Had to run a video analyzer.


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Re: Which eye do you put to the viewfinder?

[Ken Waller]

Check out http://tinyurl.com/prdm2cx to see which eye is dominant

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Mark C" 

Subject: Re: Which eye do you put to the viewfinder?


Left handed but I use either eye for the finder. It may be my imagination 
but I notice a slight difference between each eye and some days one eye 
seems better than the other.



On 12/13/2015 12:40 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

A little informal PDML survey...

Q: Are you right-handed or left-handed (or ambidextrous)
A:

Q: When you use a camera viewfinder, which eye do you put to the 
viewfinder?

A:

---
I'm curious because I am right-handed and have always (unthinkingly)
put the viewfinder to my right eye. However, a recent eye examination
has discovered that I have cataracts and my right eye is significantly
worse. With a new prescription they say they can get me to 20/25 and
I'll need cataract surgery eventually, but I'm wondering if, in the
meantime, I can successfully train myself to use my left eye to the
viewfinder.



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Re: I hate automatic "upgrades".

[Ken Waller]

My son uses an applcation called Facetime. Much improved over Skype IMO.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "P.J. Alling" 

Subject: I hate automatic "upgrades".


I have, probably only one person I talk to or chat with on Skype, but it's 
installed on my Laptop and Desktop, and used to be automatically started 
when I started both machines.  Not anymore. The last Skype "improvement" of 
my experience, now causes any graphics oriented software to almost choke 
while Skype is running. Geeze, first it required me to upgrade to a later 
version of Internet Explorer, (a program I never use on my desktop), then, 
next time I opened DXO Optics Pro the response of any control was so laggy 
I at first thought that the program had frozen.  Photoshop was noticeably 
slower too, even a lightweight program like Irfanview was effected. Tried 
to open the Task manager* and the tasks and programs didn't have enough 
video memory to populate the lists when it finally appeared, some controls 
didn't initialize.


I know I don't have the most advanced video card, or the most video 
memory, but sheesh, the graphical interface on Skype is pretty 
underwhelming, what the fuck, (excuse my language, but I'm a bit 
frustrated here),  is Skype doing with all those resources.


*Which really told me nothing, when I finally got it to work since it's 
mostly silent on video usage.  Had to run a video analyzer.


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Re: PESO: Fishymas

[David Mann]

The stockings measure about 5" from top to bottom.  We usually put treat-sized 
chocolates in them (which we eat).  They're hanging on a miniature plastic 
Christmas tree next to the aquarium.  I made 5 of them as we had 5 fish at the 
time.  Now we're down to 3 fish but I still hang all 5 socks because I wouldn't 
want any less chocolate.

Fishymas is something I made up, it's just the fish version of Christmas :)

Cheers,
Dave

> On Dec 15, 2015, at 6:52 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Frank pointed out something that puzzled me too!
> is fishmas a tradition?
> 
> ann
> 
> On 12/15/2015 12:01 AM, knarf wrote:
>> Those are either very large goldfish or rather small stockings.
>> 
>>  Cheers,
>> 
>> frank
>> 
>> On December 13, 2015 10:57:28 PM EST, David Mann  wrote:
>>> A couple of our fish check out their fishy socks on the fishymas tree.
>>> 
>>> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/944/#peso
>>> 
>>> There's also a sobriety test in the photo... if you see double you
>>> haven't drunk enough yet.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Dave
> 
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Re: I hate automatic "upgrades".

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I deleted Skype from all machines after Microsoft bought them. 

G

> On Dec 15, 2015, at 8:46 AM, P.J. Alling  wrote:
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> I have, probably only one person I talk to or chat with on Skype, but it's 
> installed on my Laptop and Desktop, and used to be automatically started when 
> I started both machines.  Not anymore. The last Skype "improvement" of my 
> experience, now causes any graphics oriented software to almost choke while 
> Skype is running. Geeze, first it required me to upgrade to a later version 
> of Internet Explorer, (a program I never use on my desktop), then, next time 
> I opened DXO Optics Pro the response of any control was so laggy I at first 
> thought that the program had frozen.  Photoshop was noticeably slower too, 
> even a lightweight program like Irfanview was effected. Tried to open the 
> Task manager* and the tasks and programs didn't have enough video memory to 
> populate the lists when it finally appeared, some controls didn't initialize.
> 
> I know I don't have the most advanced video card, or the most video memory, 
> but sheesh, the graphical interface on Skype is pretty underwhelming, what 
> the fuck, (excuse my language, but I'm a bit frustrated here),  is Skype 
> doing with all those resources.
> 
> *Which really told me nothing, when I finally got it to work since it's 
> mostly silent on video usage.  Had to run a video analyzer.

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I hate automatic "upgrades".

[P.J. Alling]

I have, probably only one person I talk to or chat with on Skype, but 
it's installed on my Laptop and Desktop, and used to be automatically 
started when I started both machines.  Not anymore. The last Skype 
"improvement" of my experience, now causes any graphics oriented 
software to almost choke while Skype is running. Geeze, first it 
required me to upgrade to a later version of Internet Explorer, (a 
program I never use on my desktop), then, next time I opened DXO Optics 
Pro the response of any control was so laggy I at first thought that the 
program had frozen.  Photoshop was noticeably slower too, even a 
lightweight program like Irfanview was effected. Tried to open the Task 
manager* and the tasks and programs didn't have enough video memory to 
populate the lists when it finally appeared, some controls didn't 
initialize.


I know I don't have the most advanced video card, or the most video 
memory, but sheesh, the graphical interface on Skype is pretty 
underwhelming, what the fuck, (excuse my language, but I'm a bit 
frustrated here),  is Skype doing with all those resources.


*Which really told me nothing, when I finally got it to work since it's 
mostly silent on video usage.  Had to run a video analyzer.


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Re: PESO - Bismuth Crystal

[ann sanfedele]

This looks like photos taken through a microscope of a thin section of 
rock using "crossed Nichols"
Is the technique you used similar?  I spy bi-refringence - or the 
appearance of same...


Aren't rocks beautiful?

ann

On 12/15/2015 11:33 AM, Mark C wrote:
Continuing experiments with minerals - this is a 4x lifesized close up 
of a bismuth crystal:


http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/bismuth-crystal

or

https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/23671905071/

K01 with reverse mounted SMC K 24 f3.5, 70 stacked images. I could not 
position a flash well to shoot into the crystal (it is very 3 
dimensional) so I used ambient light which resulted in a shutter speed 
of 0.4 seconds per shot. I would prefer to use the flash to counter 
any vibration related blur, but the long exposures came out OK.


Comments welcome.

Mark

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PESO - Bismuth Crystal

[Mark C]

Continuing experiments with minerals - this is a 4x lifesized close up 
of a bismuth crystal:


http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/bismuth-crystal

or

https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/23671905071/

K01 with reverse mounted SMC K 24 f3.5, 70 stacked images. I could not 
position a flash well to shoot into the crystal (it is very 3 
dimensional) so I used ambient light which resulted in a shutter speed 
of 0.4 seconds per shot. I would prefer to use the flash to counter any 
vibration related blur, but the long exposures came out OK.


Comments welcome.

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Re: Which eye do you put to the viewfinder?

[Mark C]

Left handed but I use either eye for the finder. It may be my 
imagination but I notice a slight difference between each eye and some 
days one eye seems better than the other.



On 12/13/2015 12:40 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

A little informal PDML survey...

Q: Are you right-handed or left-handed (or ambidextrous)
A:

Q: When you use a camera viewfinder, which eye do you put to the viewfinder?
A:

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has discovered that I have cataracts and my right eye is significantly
worse. With a new prescription they say they can get me to 20/25 and
I'll need cataract surgery eventually, but I'm wondering if, in the
meantime, I can successfully train myself to use my left eye to the
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Re: PESON - Ammonite

[Mark C]

I'll look online for some local shows - never thought about rock swap 
meets. Camera and computer swap meets have gone by the wayside, I assume 
due to eBay.


There are a few rock shops within a 100 mile radius but not many are 
truly local. The place I visited last week is closing till April after 
this weekend (it is only open Fri-Sun). Rocks are pretty inexpensive but 
not as inexpensive as bugs!


Mark

On 12/15/2015 1:33 AM, steve harley wrote:

On 2015-12-14 8:34 , Mark C wrote:
Thanks, Steve. The rock shop I visited just opened a few months ago 
and was
rather small. A show like you describe sounds like it would offer a 
lot of

potential subjects.


there are likely some large annual shows closer to you as well, but 
the Denver show is supposed to be on of the biggest; it is like going 
to a giant mineral/gem/fossil/jewelry/dinosaur museum





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Re: Peso - untitled street shot

[Mark C]

Well seen!

Mark

On 12/15/2015 12:37 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
walked to Chinatown on Sunday to get new eyeglasses  - this was along 
the way


https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2015-and-all-that/i-kgVCc8M/A 



K-5 and DA 18-55

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Re: OT Peso in colour

[Mark C]

Nice! Colour version definitely!

On 12/13/2015 2:45 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/23432355980/

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Re: DFA 150-450, first impression

[Mark C]

Looks like an impressive lens - thanks for posting these.

On 12/14/2015 4:03 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

The 150-450 zoom arrived today. It’s dark and gloomy in Michigan and raining 
intermittently, so I resisted the urge to go looking for birds and instead set 
the fine focus adjustment, then took a couple of sample pics. My tests showed 
the lens was back focusing a bit, and a +4 setting brought it right in 
throughout the range. It’s built like a tank, there’s no wobble or looseness, 
and the zoom is as tight as any lens i’ve ever owned. (One reviewer mentioned 
zoom creep. If that ever was a problem, it’s definitely been resolved. You have 
to expend a fair amount of effort to change the focal length.) I shot some dead 
ferns off a tripod at 450mm, ISO 3200, f5.6, 1/60th.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18141845&size=lg

Here’s a 100% crop of the area where I placed the focal point

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18141846&size=lg

Very pleased thus far. Can’t wait to try it out on some birdies.

Paul



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Re: Boris #09 - Smile

[Mark C]

Lighthearted, nice!

On 12/12/2015 12:37 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:

It seems I'm in the mood today :-).

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2015/12/2015-09-smile.html

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Re: PENTAX DSLR PRICES IN SA

[John]

On 12/15/2015 8:47 AM, Alan C wrote:

Look what they're asking for older S/H Pentax DSLR's in SA.
There have been a spate of adverts in the last week. I've converted to
US$.With std. lens unless otherwise stated.

K20D 570;  K200D 570;  K10D (2 lens) 400;  K10D 200;
K100D 500 & 280; Kx (2 lens) 320; Kr 600.

Mostly more than the original prices.

A new K50 is 600, a new K3 ii  is 1500 & a D FA 150-450  2300.

Alan C



Think anyone would be interested in a *ist-D w/Battery Grip & FAJ
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PENTAX DSLR PRICES IN SA

[Alan C]

Look what they're asking for older S/H Pentax DSLR's in SA.
There have been a spate of adverts in the last week. 
I've converted to US$.With std. lens unless otherwise stated.


K20D 570;  K200D 570;  K10D (2 lens) 400;  K10D 200;
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Mostly more than the original prices.

A new K50 is 600, a new K3 ii  is 1500 & a D FA 150-450  2300.

Alan C




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Re: DFA 150-450, first impression

[Paul Stenquist]

More gray skies today, but I may try to shoot a bit if it brightens up and I 
get a leg up on work. I didn't really want to buy the lens now because I can't 
use it much at this time of year, and I'm still trying to deal with the loss of 
my wife, but my biz needs the tax deduction. Personally, '15 was a very bad 
year, but my business grew substantially, and the end of the year is fast 
approaching.

Paul via phone

> On Dec 15, 2015, at 5:38 AM, Alex Sarbu  wrote:
> 
> Thank you; I might replace the 60-250 with this lens so I'm quite
> interested in user feedback.
> Most of the sharpness was lost by using ISO3200, but I won't be
> nitpicking about some quick, first samples. I'm looking forward to
> hear more impressions about this lens.
> 
> Alex
> 
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Paul Stenquist
>  wrote:
>> The 150-450 zoom arrived today. It’s dark and gloomy in Michigan and raining 
>> intermittently, so I resisted the urge to go looking for birds and instead 
>> set the fine focus adjustment, then took a couple of sample pics. My tests 
>> showed the lens was back focusing a bit, and a +4 setting brought it right 
>> in throughout the range. It’s built like a tank, there’s no wobble or 
>> looseness, and the zoom is as tight as any lens i’ve ever owned. (One 
>> reviewer mentioned zoom creep. If that ever was a problem, it’s definitely 
>> been resolved. You have to expend a fair amount of effort to change the 
>> focal length.) I shot some dead ferns off a tripod at 450mm, ISO 3200, f5.6, 
>> 1/60th.
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18141845&size=lg
>> 
>> Here’s a 100% crop of the area where I placed the focal point
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18141846&size=lg
>> 
>> Very pleased thus far. Can’t wait to try it out on some birdies.
>> 
>> Paul
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Re: DFA 150-450, first impression

[Paul Stenquist]

It was quite dark, so even at ISO 3300. I was only able to get 1/60th. I see 
noise but the edges are well defined. No sharpening btw. Feel free to nitpick. 
That's why I post them. 

Paul via phone

> On Dec 15, 2015, at 5:38 AM, Alex Sarbu  wrote:
> 
> Thank you; I might replace the 60-250 with this lens so I'm quite
> interested in user feedback.
> Most of the sharpness was lost by using ISO3200, but I won't be
> nitpicking about some quick, first samples. I'm looking forward to
> hear more impressions about this lens.
> 
> Alex
> 
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Paul Stenquist
>  wrote:
>> The 150-450 zoom arrived today. It’s dark and gloomy in Michigan and raining 
>> intermittently, so I resisted the urge to go looking for birds and instead 
>> set the fine focus adjustment, then took a couple of sample pics. My tests 
>> showed the lens was back focusing a bit, and a +4 setting brought it right 
>> in throughout the range. It’s built like a tank, there’s no wobble or 
>> looseness, and the zoom is as tight as any lens i’ve ever owned. (One 
>> reviewer mentioned zoom creep. If that ever was a problem, it’s definitely 
>> been resolved. You have to expend a fair amount of effort to change the 
>> focal length.) I shot some dead ferns off a tripod at 450mm, ISO 3200, f5.6, 
>> 1/60th.
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18141845&size=lg
>> 
>> Here’s a 100% crop of the area where I placed the focal point
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18141846&size=lg
>> 
>> Very pleased thus far. Can’t wait to try it out on some birdies.
>> 
>> Paul
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Re: DFA 150-450, first impression

[Alex Sarbu]

Thank you; I might replace the 60-250 with this lens so I'm quite
interested in user feedback.
Most of the sharpness was lost by using ISO3200, but I won't be
nitpicking about some quick, first samples. I'm looking forward to
hear more impressions about this lens.

Alex

On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Paul Stenquist
 wrote:
> The 150-450 zoom arrived today. It’s dark and gloomy in Michigan and raining 
> intermittently, so I resisted the urge to go looking for birds and instead 
> set the fine focus adjustment, then took a couple of sample pics. My tests 
> showed the lens was back focusing a bit, and a +4 setting brought it right in 
> throughout the range. It’s built like a tank, there’s no wobble or looseness, 
> and the zoom is as tight as any lens i’ve ever owned. (One reviewer mentioned 
> zoom creep. If that ever was a problem, it’s definitely been resolved. You 
> have to expend a fair amount of effort to change the focal length.) I shot 
> some dead ferns off a tripod at 450mm, ISO 3200, f5.6, 1/60th.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18141845&size=lg
>
> Here’s a 100% crop of the area where I placed the focal point
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18141846&size=lg
>
> Very pleased thus far. Can’t wait to try it out on some birdies.
>
> Paul
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