Re: OT: Monitor Specs

2016-04-27 Thread Igor PDML-StR

Hdmi is digital, cha is analog.
Hdmi-to-vga "adapter"  actually needs to be a digital -to-analog converter.
But IIRC, some video cards can send an analog signal if they sense a simple 
adapter. ... or something like that... I forgot the details. So, even if 
your video card can do that , your hdmi-dvi adapter doesn't  create that 
condition.


So,  you either need a correct direct hdmi-vga adapter (I bought one from 
Amazon for $10-17), or you need an hdmi-vga converter, if the video card is 
not capable.


Situation with dvi is probably similar.

Igor

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Mark C Wed, 27 Apr 2016 14:36:24 -0700 wrote:

I hope to by adapter free with the new monitor. I did try putting theDVI to 
VGA adapter onto the HDMI to DVI adapter and using the HDMI port for the 
VGA monitor - but it did not work. Got a blank screen.





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Re: PESO - A few grains of pepper

2016-04-27 Thread John

On 4/26/2016 1:44 PM, Jostein wrote:

http://www.alunfoto.no/sider/peso/

Comments most appreciated.
This photo is an experiment in stacking. It's made from about 40
exposures, which may be overkill but is at least without glitches in the
focus area.
Personally I don't like the sharp transition between in-focus and OOF
areas in the picture, and wonder if anyone has suggestions for how this
can be rendered in a more natural looking way.

Jostein



I see what you mean about the sharp transition, and I agree. Don't know
how to get rid of it other than I'd try adding to the stack of exposures
going past the subject peppercorn & maybe having the background corns a
little less out of focus.

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Re: I don't get "unboxing" photos/videos

2016-04-27 Thread John

On 4/27/2016 1:29 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

...but if they're trying to make me feel bad that they have their K-1
and I don't it's working ;-)



They're the male version of those videos where some teenage girl unpacks
the bag of loot she acquired from a shopping spree at some ritzy
department store.


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Re: PESO - By the Fence

2016-04-27 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Don and Ann.  

The lines are what intrigued me.

Rick

On Apr 26, 2016, at 10:22 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

> Really interesting geometry.
> 
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> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 9:05 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
>> On my way home from work last week:
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
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>> (K-5, DA 40/2.8 Ltd.)
>> 
>> Comments appreciated.
>> 
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Re: PESO - A few grains of pepper

2016-04-27 Thread Bill

On 4/27/2016 6:29 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



Rick Womer wrote:

Makes perfect sense to me!

Just imagine very big peppercorns, or a very little guy with
sandpaper.


I really don't want to think about Cotty sanding his peppercorns.


I certainly don't want to think about how big they are, and neither 
should you.





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Re: PESO - The Gardener

2016-04-27 Thread Marco Alpert
Thanks, Mark.

m

> On Apr 27, 2016, at 2:14 PM, Mark C  wrote:
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> Nice - you caught a great expression there.
> 
> On 4/26/2016 12:44 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:
>> http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso3.html
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PESO - Young and Old

2016-04-27 Thread Rick Womer
On my way to work:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18224709&size=lg

(K-5, DA 40/2.8)

Comments appreciated.

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Re: PESO - A few grains of pepper

2016-04-27 Thread Larry Colen



Rick Womer wrote:

Makes perfect sense to me!

Just imagine very big peppercorns, or a very little guy with sandpaper.


I really don't want to think about Cotty sanding his peppercorns.



On Apr 27, 2016, at 7:25 PM, Bill wrote:


On 4/27/2016 2:23 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 27/4/16, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:


It's as though a guy with sandpaper said "Ah, screw it" and
walked off when he was just behind the front peppercorn.

I admit that in all the years I have been on this list, these words I
never thought I would read.


Certainly it makes an odd sentence.

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Re: PESO - A few grains of pepper

2016-04-27 Thread Rick Womer
Makes perfect sense to me!

Just imagine very big peppercorns, or a very little guy with sandpaper.

On Apr 27, 2016, at 7:25 PM, Bill wrote:

> On 4/27/2016 2:23 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
>> On 27/4/16, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:
>> 
>>> It's as though a guy with sandpaper said "Ah, screw it" and
>>> walked off when he was just behind the front peppercorn.
>> 
>> I admit that in all the years I have been on this list, these words I
>> never thought I would read.
>> 
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> Certainly it makes an odd sentence.
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Re: PESO - A few grains of pepper

2016-04-27 Thread Bill

On 4/27/2016 2:23 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 27/4/16, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:


It's as though a guy with sandpaper said "Ah, screw it" and
walked off when he was just behind the front peppercorn.


I admit that in all the years I have been on this list, these words I
never thought I would read.



Certainly it makes an odd sentence.

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Re: OT: Monitor Specs

2016-04-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Mark C wrote:

>I hope to by adapter free with the new monitor. I did try putting the 
>DVI to VGA adapter onto the HDMI to DVI adapter and using the HDMI port 
>for the VGA monitor - but it did not work. Got a blank screen.

I've got a PCI-E graphics card with two DVI ports and 1G vRAM around
here. (I just replaced it with a card with 2G.)  If you (or anyone
else) wants it it's 20 bucks plus shipping.

 
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Re: I don't get "unboxing" photos/videos

2016-04-27 Thread Brian Walters


On Thu, Apr 28, 2016, at 03:54 AM, Darren Addy wrote:
> I don't "get" unboxing videos is apparently not the same as I don't
> "watch" unboxing videos.
> :)
> 
> I learned a long time ago that there are two different people in the
> world: Those who love Neil Diamond and those that don't.
> Bonus points to those who get the movie reference. :)


OK, I'll take the bonus points.

'What about Bob?', a Richard Dreyfuss/Bill Murray classic.

As an aside, I'm not afraid to admit that I get Neil Diamond



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Re: OT: Monitor Specs

2016-04-27 Thread Mark C
I hope to by adapter free with the new monitor. I did try putting the 
DVI to VGA adapter onto the HDMI to DVI adapter and using the HDMI port 
for the VGA monitor - but it did not work. Got a blank screen.


On 4/27/2016 1:31 PM, Otis C. Wright, Jr. wrote:
May not be applicable here, but a few months ago I ran into a limit on 
how many display port to DVI adapters an AMD card would drive.


Otis Wright

On 4/27/2016 9:31 AM, Mark C wrote:
I think I already have the cables that I need, so hopefully I am OK. 
An irony about my current setup is that both monitors are using 
adapters. The one with the VGA port is connected to the card's sole 
DVI port with an adapter, and the one with a DVI port is connected to 
the HDMI port on the card, again with an adapter. I could not easily 
locate an HDMI to VGA or DIsplayPort to VGA adapter locally and wound 
up with this setup.


On 4/26/2016 10:12 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Mark,

It mihgt be obvious, but just in case: make sure you have chosen 
which connection would be common for your video card and the monitor.

Dealing with adapters is possible but could be an extra headache.

Igor





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Re: PESO - A few grains of pepper

2016-04-27 Thread Larry Colen



Jostein wrote:

Thanks for all the constructive comments!
I'll try out to take an extra exposure at the back, with the lens
stopped all the way down. Maybe that will look better. I agree with
Rick's point about the foreground too. Maybe the same technique can be
applied there.


Maybe, as an experiment, while you are doing the photos, bracket them by 
aperture, so for each position photograph at f/4 f/8 and f/16 (adjusting 
shutter speed),  Then you could experiment with stacking photos of 
different apertures to see which works best.





Jostein

Den 26.04.2016 19.44, skrev Jostein:

http://www.alunfoto.no/sider/peso/

Comments most appreciated.
This photo is an experiment in stacking. It's made from about 40
exposures, which may be overkill but is at least without glitches in the
focus area.
Personally I don't like the sharp transition between in-focus and OOF
areas in the picture, and wonder if anyone has suggestions for how this
can be rendered in a more natural looking way.

Jostein





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Re: PESO - The Gardener

2016-04-27 Thread Mark C

Nice - you caught a great expression there.

On 4/26/2016 12:44 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:

http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso3.html

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Re: I don't get "unboxing" photos/videos

2016-04-27 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 27/4/16, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed:

>a legalistic pilophage might insist on seeing them unboxed

I reckons that might be what Jostein needs for his peppercorns look

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Re: I don't get "unboxing" photos/videos

2016-04-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W-PDML wrote:

>On 27 Apr 2016, at 21:15, Mark Roberts  wrote:
>> 
>> Bob W-PDML wrote:
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>>> The simple truth is, they all want see a hat get eaten, and are providing 
>>> the required pre-condition.
>> 
>> Well, they're officially in the shops in the UK as of today. 
>> https://www.facebook.com/SRSMicrosystems/
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>Impressive! Of course, they may be just boxes

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Re: PESO - A few grains of pepper

2016-04-27 Thread Jostein

Thanks for all the constructive comments!
I'll try out to take an extra exposure at the back, with the lens 
stopped all the way down. Maybe that will look better. I agree with 
Rick's point about the foreground too. Maybe the same technique can be 
applied there.


Jostein

Den 26.04.2016 19.44, skrev Jostein:

http://www.alunfoto.no/sider/peso/

Comments most appreciated.
This photo is an experiment in stacking. It's made from about 40
exposures, which may be overkill but is at least without glitches in the
focus area.
Personally I don't like the sharp transition between in-focus and OOF
areas in the picture, and wonder if anyone has suggestions for how this
can be rendered in a more natural looking way.

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Re: I don't get "unboxing" photos/videos

2016-04-27 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 27 Apr 2016, at 21:15, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> Bob W-PDML wrote:
> 
>> The simple truth is, they all want see a hat get eaten, and are providing 
>> the required pre-condition.
> 
> Well, they're officially in the shops in the UK as of today. 
> https://www.facebook.com/SRSMicrosystems/
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Impressive! Of course, they may be just boxes, so a legalistic pilophage might 
insist on seeing them unboxed.

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Re: PESO - A few grains of pepper

2016-04-27 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 27/4/16, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:

>It's as though a guy with sandpaper said "Ah, screw it" and
>walked off when he was just behind the front peppercorn.

I admit that in all the years I have been on this list, these words I
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Re: I don't get "unboxing" photos/videos

2016-04-27 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 27/4/16, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed:

>The simple truth is, they all want see a hat get eaten, and are
>providing the required pre-condition.

Haha the unboxing of a hat - cake shaped maybe

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Re: I don't get "unboxing" photos/videos

2016-04-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W-PDML wrote:

>The simple truth is, they all want see a hat get eaten, and are providing the 
>required pre-condition.

Well, they're officially in the shops in the UK as of today. 
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Re: OT: Monitor Specs

2016-04-27 Thread Larry Colen

I found this interesting, and fairly recent review of monitors:
http://www.144hzmonitors.com/photo-editing-monitor-buyers-guide-april-2016/



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Re: PESO - A few grains of pepper

2016-04-27 Thread steve harley

On 2016-04-26 11:44 , Jostein wrote:

http://www.alunfoto.no/sider/peso/

Comments most appreciated.
This photo is an experiment in stacking. It's made from about 40 exposures,
which may be overkill but is at least without glitches in the focus area.
Personally I don't like the sharp transition between in-focus and OOF areas
in the picture, and wonder if anyone has suggestions for how this can be
rendered in a more natural looking way.



that's a cool shot — gives the peppercorn some personality, like it is 
striving for individuality


i have an idea for fixing the stacking transition, but i haven't tried it — 
first of all it looks like you stacked more deeply than you needed, but that 
might help — find the first shot with focus behind the peppercorn, and apply 
a very slight Gaussian blur, go to the next shot and apply slightly more, 
and so forth, then stack; to make a very smooth transition, you might need 
even more back-focused shots


there is also an abrupt front transition; you could try the same technique 
there, or just take a few more shots front-focused



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Re: PESO - A few grains of pepper

2016-04-27 Thread Bob W-PDML
You could move the peppercorn a bit further back...

Nice shot - a very novel and slightly surprising view of the peppercorn. I do 
agree about the rapid transition. I hope someone tells you the right answer.

B

> On 26 Apr 2016, at 18:45, Jostein  wrote:
> 
> http://www.alunfoto.no/sider/peso/
> 
> Comments most appreciated.
> This photo is an experiment in stacking. It's made from about 40 exposures, 
> which may be overkill but is at least without glitches in the focus area.
> Personally I don't like the sharp transition between in-focus and OOF areas 
> in the picture, and wonder if anyone has suggestions for how this can be 
> rendered in a more natural looking way.
> 
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Re: I don't get "unboxing" photos/videos

2016-04-27 Thread Bob W-PDML
The simple truth is, they all want see a hat get eaten, and are providing the 
required pre-condition.

B

> On 27 Apr 2016, at 18:55, Darren Addy  wrote:
> 
> I don't "get" unboxing videos is apparently not the same as I don't
> "watch" unboxing videos.
> :)
> 
> I learned a long time ago that there are two different people in the
> world: Those who love Neil Diamond and those that don't.
> Bonus points to those who get the movie reference. :)
> 
> Seriously, the two categories I was thinking of are those who are
> happy for others' good fortune and those who are jealous of others'
> good fortune. People who produce unboxing videos MAY in fact do so
> because they are jealous of other's good fortune and want to incite
> that envy in others. But if you are a person who is happy at others'
> good fortune, then you may be doing it without such a motive.
> 
> So, in a simple diagram you could set up the 4 conditions in the four
> corners of a square:
> Envy-inciting motivated video producers + envious of others viewers
> Envy-inciting motivate video producers + happy for others viewers
> Non-envy-inciting motivated video producers + envious of others viewers
> Non-envy-inciting motivated video producers + happy for others viewers
> 
> I'm going to be kind an think that your post was NOT motivated by an
> envy-inciting way to remind everyone that you are getting a K-1 while
> they, perhaps are not, at this juncture.
> :)
> :)
> :)
> 
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 12:29 PM, Mark Roberts
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>> ...but if they're trying to make me feel bad that they have their K-1
>> and I don't it's working ;-)
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Re: PESO - A few grains of pepper

2016-04-27 Thread Rick Womer
Jostein, It doesn't bother me that the background peppercorns are much
less sharp than the foreground one.

What bothers me about the focus is the abrupt transition in the
surface the peppercorns are resting on, from textured to softly
smooth. It's as though a guy with sandpaper said "Ah, screw it" and
walked off when he was just behind the front peppercorn.

I've never done focus stacking and I have no idea how to avoid, or
correct, that problem!

Cheers,

Rick
http://photo.net/photos/RickW


On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 10:11 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> Interesting ... I agree with you about that sharp transition -though I'm not
> sure howmuch of my agreement is because you pointed it out or not...
>
> Certainly the foreground pepper is sharp as is appropriate for the subject
> :-)  like the overall look - might like to see what it looks like with
>
> narrow focus and no stacking
>
> ann
>
>
>
> On 4/26/2016 1:44 PM, Jostein wrote:
>>
>> http://www.alunfoto.no/sider/peso/
>>
>> Comments most appreciated.
>> This photo is an experiment in stacking. It's made from about 40
>> exposures, which may be overkill but is at least without glitches in the
>> focus area.
>> Personally I don't like the sharp transition between in-focus and OOF
>> areas in the picture, and wonder if anyone has suggestions for how this can
>> be rendered in a more natural looking way.
>>
>> Jostein
>>
>
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Re: I don't get "unboxing" photos/videos

2016-04-27 Thread Darren Addy
I don't "get" unboxing videos is apparently not the same as I don't
"watch" unboxing videos.
:)

I learned a long time ago that there are two different people in the
world: Those who love Neil Diamond and those that don't.
Bonus points to those who get the movie reference. :)

Seriously, the two categories I was thinking of are those who are
happy for others' good fortune and those who are jealous of others'
good fortune. People who produce unboxing videos MAY in fact do so
because they are jealous of other's good fortune and want to incite
that envy in others. But if you are a person who is happy at others'
good fortune, then you may be doing it without such a motive.

So, in a simple diagram you could set up the 4 conditions in the four
corners of a square:
Envy-inciting motivated video producers + envious of others viewers
Envy-inciting motivate video producers + happy for others viewers
Non-envy-inciting motivated video producers + envious of others viewers
Non-envy-inciting motivated video producers + happy for others viewers

I'm going to be kind an think that your post was NOT motivated by an
envy-inciting way to remind everyone that you are getting a K-1 while
they, perhaps are not, at this juncture.
:)
:)
:)

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 12:29 PM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:
> ...but if they're trying to make me feel bad that they have their K-1
> and I don't it's working ;-)
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Re: OT: Monitor Specs

2016-04-27 Thread Otis C. Wright, Jr.
May not be applicable here, but a few months ago I ran into a limit on 
how many display port to DVI adapters an AMD card would drive.


Otis Wright

On 4/27/2016 9:31 AM, Mark C wrote:
I think I already have the cables that I need, so hopefully I am OK. 
An irony about my current setup is that both monitors are using 
adapters. The one with the VGA port is connected to the card's sole 
DVI port with an adapter, and the one with a DVI port is connected to 
the HDMI port on the card, again with an adapter. I could not easily 
locate an HDMI to VGA or DIsplayPort to VGA adapter locally and wound 
up with this setup.


On 4/26/2016 10:12 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Mark,

It mihgt be obvious, but just in case: make sure you have chosen 
which connection would be common for your video card and the monitor.

Dealing with adapters is possible but could be an extra headache.

Igor





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I don't get "unboxing" photos/videos

2016-04-27 Thread Mark Roberts
...but if they're trying to make me feel bad that they have their K-1
and I don't it's working ;-)

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Re: PESO - The Gardener

2016-04-27 Thread Marco Alpert
Thanks, Christine! 

(Although he didn't seem to be too pleased at the time.)

m

> On Apr 27, 2016, at 7:01 AM, Christine Aguila  wrote:
> 
> That’s lovely, Marco!  Your subject should be pleased!  Cheers, Christine
> 
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2016, at 11:44 AM, Marco Alpert  wrote:
>> 
>> http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso3.html
>> 
>> Comments, as always, welcomed.
>> 
>> -Marco 
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Re: PESO - The Gardener

2016-04-27 Thread Christine Aguila
That’s lovely, Marco!  Your subject should be pleased!  Cheers, Christine


> On Apr 26, 2016, at 11:44 AM, Marco Alpert  wrote:
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> http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso3.html
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Re: OT: Monitor Specs

2016-04-27 Thread Mark C
I think I already have the cables that I need, so hopefully I am OK. An 
irony about my current setup is that both monitors are using adapters. 
The one with the VGA port is connected to the card's sole DVI port with 
an adapter, and the one with a DVI port is connected to the HDMI port on 
the card, again with an adapter. I could not easily locate an HDMI to 
VGA or DIsplayPort to VGA adapter locally and wound up with this setup.


On 4/26/2016 10:12 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Mark,

It mihgt be obvious, but just in case: make sure you have chosen which 
connection would be common for your video card and the monitor.

Dealing with adapters is possible but could be an extra headache.

Igor





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