Re: PESO: Lashes
That's delightful... -p On 1/28/2017 5:28 PM, David Mann wrote: I took this yesterday when bub was having a sleep on me. I wasn't sure how close the phone could focus but it seemed to do a pretty good job. http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1037/#peso Cheers, Dave -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Chevy Maliboo
It is a 2017. Consumer reports rates it quite a bit behind the KIA Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Maybe you got the previous model. Car & Driver likes Malibu, and it sells > very well. No government motors btw. All loans long since paid off. > http://www.caranddriver.com/chevrolet/malibu > Paul via phone > > > On Jan 28, 2017, at 3:21 PM, Daniel J. Matyola > wrote: > > > > I just need to vent a bit. > > > > I know Paul and others here are fond of GM cars, but based on my > experience > > the past 2 weeks I really wonder how Government Motors stays in business. > > > > Lee and I usually rent a compact car here in Maui: gas is expensive, and > > parking spaces are tight. This year, however, our son accompanied us for > > the first two weeks of the trip, and two friends will join us here for > the > > last week, so we needed a larger car with more luggage room. I therefore > > asked Avis for an intermediate car, which is described as "a Nissan > Altima > > or similar." > > > > What they gave us instead is a Chevy Malibu. I can only describe it as > > spectacularly mediocre. I can't remember when I have been less pleased > > with a rental from Avis. > > > > At home we have a classic Mustang, a 2016 Kia Optima, a 10 year old > Altima > > and a 20 year old Optima. I have owned Buicks in the past. I am > generally > > not fussy about cars. > > > > The Mallibu seems to my eye to be slightly dated in style. In order to > > give it the "sleek" look, however, they how removed a lot of head room > from > > the rear seat. Getting in the rear seat in awkward, and getting out damn > > uncomfortable. Really not much better than trying to exit the rear > "seat" > > of the Mustang. > > > > Opening the trunk and the gas tank door are both unusual and tricky. I > > don't think I have ever succeeded on the first try. The instruments are > > part analog and part digital, and totally confusing. The electronics for > > radio and cell phone are simply old fashioned. Even the seat belts are > > difficult to operate. The trunk is adequate, but not what I had expected > > from the size of the car. I am really wondering how I am going to get > four > > passengers and luggage for three into it when I take my wife and her > > friends to the airport in a couple of weeks. > > > > I wonder why our government even thought it reasonable to bail out a > > company which doesn't seem to understand what consumers want and need. > > > > End of rant. We now return you to our regular programming. > > > > > > Dan Matyola > > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Chevy Maliboo
There is nothing really wrong with the car except an extreme case of mediocrity. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 4:00 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > Sorry for your issues Dan, but its music to my ears as a retired Ford > salaried worker > > You really should go back to Avis and demand a different vehicle - speak > to the station manager and you should get your wish. > > Alot of times the rental fleets are made up of vehicles that aren't > selling well for what ever reason and that might be the case with the > vehicle you have. > > Keep calm and carry on. > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola" < > danmaty...@gmail.com> > Subject: OT: Chevy Maliboo > > > I just need to vent a bit. >> >> I know Paul and others here are fond of GM cars, but based on my >> experience >> the past 2 weeks I really wonder how Government Motors stays in business. >> >> Lee and I usually rent a compact car here in Maui: gas is expensive, and >> parking spaces are tight. This year, however, our son accompanied us for >> the first two weeks of the trip, and two friends will join us here for the >> last week, so we needed a larger car with more luggage room. I therefore >> asked Avis for an intermediate car, which is described as "a Nissan Altima >> or similar." >> >> What they gave us instead is a Chevy Malibu. I can only describe it as >> spectacularly mediocre. I can't remember when I have been less pleased >> with a rental from Avis. >> >> At home we have a classic Mustang, a 2016 Kia Optima, a 10 year old Altima >> and a 20 year old Optima. I have owned Buicks in the past. I am >> generally >> not fussy about cars. >> >> The Mallibu seems to my eye to be slightly dated in style. In order to >> give it the "sleek" look, however, they how removed a lot of head room >> from >> the rear seat. Getting in the rear seat in awkward, and getting out damn >> uncomfortable. Really not much better than trying to exit the rear "seat" >> of the Mustang. >> >> Opening the trunk and the gas tank door are both unusual and tricky. I >> don't think I have ever succeeded on the first try. The instruments are >> part analog and part digital, and totally confusing. The electronics for >> radio and cell phone are simply old fashioned. Even the seat belts are >> difficult to operate. The trunk is adequate, but not what I had expected >> from the size of the car. I am really wondering how I am going to get >> four >> passengers and luggage for three into it when I take my wife and her >> friends to the airport in a couple of weeks. >> >> I wonder why our government even thought it reasonable to bail out a >> company which doesn't seem to understand what consumers want and need. >> >> End of rant. We now return you to our regular programming. >> >> >> Dan Matyola >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Chevy Maliboo
To me these design related issues speak to a much bigger issue than quality/reliability. They speak to a lack of knowledge of car design and the potential customers wants. Much more fundamental than quality/reliability. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Bill" Subject: Re: OT: Chevy Maliboo On 1/28/2017 4:05 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Bill IIRC, your issues were mainly quality/ reliability related. Dan's issues as he listed them are design related - they were meant to be the way he observed. Quite a difference IMO. Fair enough, though both speak to a corporate culture that resists responsiveness to it's customers. Dan is not the first person I've heard of complaining about GM's ergonomics, and I am not the only person I know who is totally disgusted with their QC. -Original Message- From: Bill Subject: Re: OT: Chevy Maliboo I understand your pain. Out of five GM vehicles I have had direct contact with,either through ownership or family ownership, as well as one that had GM components, I have had bad experiences with five of the six. Apparently, my experience (and yours) is not common, and GM vehicles are God's gift to the auto industry. Or not. I will never buy another GM vehicle, or any vehicle that uses GM components. They are turds on wheels. bill On 1/28/2017 2:21 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I just need to vent a bit. I know Paul and others here are fond of GM cars, but based on my experience the past 2 weeks I really wonder how Government Motors stays in business. Lee and I usually rent a compact car here in Maui: gas is expensive, and parking spaces are tight. This year, however, our son accompanied us for the first two weeks of the trip, and two friends will join us here for the last week, so we needed a larger car with more luggage room. I therefore asked Avis for an intermediate car, which is described as "a Nissan Altima or similar." What they gave us instead is a Chevy Malibu. I can only describe it as spectacularly mediocre. I can't remember when I have been less pleased with a rental from Avis. At home we have a classic Mustang, a 2016 Kia Optima, a 10 year old Altima and a 20 year old Optima. I have owned Buicks in the past. I am generally not fussy about cars. The Mallibu seems to my eye to be slightly dated in style. In order to give it the "sleek" look, however, they how removed a lot of head room from the rear seat. Getting in the rear seat in awkward, and getting out damn uncomfortable. Really not much better than trying to exit the rear "seat" of the Mustang. Opening the trunk and the gas tank door are both unusual and tricky. I don't think I have ever succeeded on the first try. The instruments are part analog and part digital, and totally confusing. The electronics for radio and cell phone are simply old fashioned. Even the seat belts are difficult to operate. The trunk is adequate, but not what I had expected from the size of the car. I am really wondering how I am going to get four passengers and luggage for three into it when I take my wife and her friends to the airport in a couple of weeks. I wonder why our government even thought it reasonable to bail out a company which doesn't seem to understand what consumers want and need. End of rant. We now return you to our regular programming. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Morning Stroll
On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 6:58 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > Are your sure they're women? That is a dangerous question these days. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Chevy Maliboo
On 1/28/2017 5:56 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 28/1/17, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed: I will never buy another GM vehicle, or any vehicle that uses GM components. Glad then you don't live over the border - doubtless there will be an executive order soon compelling domestic purchase. Ford. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: customs House Hotel
An old sandstone pub on the Hobart waterfront https://flic.kr/p/RD7qxM Pentax K1 Sigma 35mm f1.4 Art Lens -- Philip Northeast www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Lashes
Beautiful keepsake. J - Original Message - From: "John Coyle" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 7:01:49 PM Subject: RE: PESO: Lashes The phone did well - but then it had a gorgeous subject to focus on! John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of David Mann Sent: Sunday, 29 January 2017 9:28 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO: Lashes I took this yesterday when bub was having a sleep on me. I wasn't sure how close the phone could focus but it seemed to do a pretty good job. http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1037/#peso Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Lashes
The phone did well - but then it had a gorgeous subject to focus on! John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of David Mann Sent: Sunday, 29 January 2017 9:28 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO: Lashes I took this yesterday when bub was having a sleep on me. I wasn't sure how close the phone could focus but it seemed to do a pretty good job. http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1037/#peso Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO 2017 - 003 - GDG
Finally, another walk in the park: https://flic.kr/p/QmsLQE enjoy! G — The trouble with being punctual is that nobody's there to appreciate it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I know it won't last, but ...
David J Brooks wrote: made my choices the othwr day and finally got around to submitting this morning Not much to choose from tlast year but i did my bets I started the process nice and early, then spent the next several weeks trying to keep water out of the places I didn't want it, that it kept trying to go. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Chevy Maliboo
On Sun, Jan 29, 2017, at 10:56 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > On 28/1/17, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >I will never buy another GM vehicle, or any vehicle that uses GM components. > > Glad then you don't live over the border - doubtless there will be an > executive order soon compelling domestic purchase. Oh, well played, sir :-) Cheers Brian > > -- > > > Cheers, > Cotty > > > ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, > || (O) |Web Video Production > -- > _ > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.com - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Morning Stroll
Are your sure they're women? On 1/28/2017 5:54 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: Beautiful! They don't make women like that anymore! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ABml9AvVXQ4 On 28 Jan 2017, at 22:14, Rick Womer mailto:rickpic...@gmail.com>> wrote: Still in Alfama: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18337161 Comments appreciated. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Chevy Maliboo
On 28/1/17, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed: >I will never buy another GM vehicle, or any vehicle that uses GM components. Glad then you don't live over the border - doubtless there will be an executive order soon compelling domestic purchase. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Lashes
I took this yesterday when bub was having a sleep on me. I wasn't sure how close the phone could focus but it seemed to do a pretty good job. http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1037/#peso Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Morning Stroll
Beautiful! They don't make women like that anymore! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ABml9AvVXQ4 On 28 Jan 2017, at 22:14, Rick Womer mailto:rickpic...@gmail.com>> wrote: Still in Alfama: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18337161 Comments appreciated. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Morning Stroll
Still in Alfama: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18337161 Comments appreciated. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Chevy Maliboo
On 1/28/2017 4:05 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Bill IIRC, your issues were mainly quality/ reliability related. Dan's issues as he listed them are design related - they were meant to be the way he observed. Quite a difference IMO. Fair enough, though both speak to a corporate culture that resists responsiveness to it's customers. Dan is not the first person I've heard of complaining about GM's ergonomics, and I am not the only person I know who is totally disgusted with their QC. -Original Message- From: Bill Subject: Re: OT: Chevy Maliboo I understand your pain. Out of five GM vehicles I have had direct contact with,either through ownership or family ownership, as well as one that had GM components, I have had bad experiences with five of the six. Apparently, my experience (and yours) is not common, and GM vehicles are God's gift to the auto industry. Or not. I will never buy another GM vehicle, or any vehicle that uses GM components. They are turds on wheels. bill On 1/28/2017 2:21 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I just need to vent a bit. I know Paul and others here are fond of GM cars, but based on my experience the past 2 weeks I really wonder how Government Motors stays in business. Lee and I usually rent a compact car here in Maui: gas is expensive, and parking spaces are tight. This year, however, our son accompanied us for the first two weeks of the trip, and two friends will join us here for the last week, so we needed a larger car with more luggage room. I therefore asked Avis for an intermediate car, which is described as "a Nissan Altima or similar." What they gave us instead is a Chevy Malibu. I can only describe it as spectacularly mediocre. I can't remember when I have been less pleased with a rental from Avis. At home we have a classic Mustang, a 2016 Kia Optima, a 10 year old Altima and a 20 year old Optima. I have owned Buicks in the past. I am generally not fussy about cars. The Mallibu seems to my eye to be slightly dated in style. In order to give it the "sleek" look, however, they how removed a lot of head room from the rear seat. Getting in the rear seat in awkward, and getting out damn uncomfortable. Really not much better than trying to exit the rear "seat" of the Mustang. Opening the trunk and the gas tank door are both unusual and tricky. I don't think I have ever succeeded on the first try. The instruments are part analog and part digital, and totally confusing. The electronics for radio and cell phone are simply old fashioned. Even the seat belts are difficult to operate. The trunk is adequate, but not what I had expected from the size of the car. I am really wondering how I am going to get four passengers and luggage for three into it when I take my wife and her friends to the airport in a couple of weeks. I wonder why our government even thought it reasonable to bail out a company which doesn't seem to understand what consumers want and need. End of rant. We now return you to our regular programming. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Chevy Maliboo
> On Jan 28, 2017, at 4:58 PM, Bill wrote: > > I will never buy another GM vehicle, or any vehicle that uses GM components. > Uh, oh: http://www.upi.com/Archives/1990/11/19/GM-to-supply-Nissan-with-engine-blocks/2459658990800/ > On 1/28/2017 2:21 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >> I just need to vent a bit. >> >> I know Paul and others here are fond of GM cars, but based on my experience >> the past 2 weeks I really wonder how Government Motors stays in business. >> >> Lee and I usually rent a compact car here in Maui: gas is expensive, and >> parking spaces are tight. This year, however, our son accompanied us for >> the first two weeks of the trip, and two friends will join us here for the >> last week, so we needed a larger car with more luggage room. I therefore >> asked Avis for an intermediate car, which is described as "a Nissan Altima >> or similar." >> >> What they gave us instead is a Chevy Malibu. I can only describe it as >> spectacularly mediocre. I can't remember when I have been less pleased >> with a rental from Avis. >> >> At home we have a classic Mustang, a 2016 Kia Optima, a 10 year old Altima >> and a 20 year old Optima. I have owned Buicks in the past. I am generally >> not fussy about cars. >> >> The Mallibu seems to my eye to be slightly dated in style. In order to >> give it the "sleek" look, however, they how removed a lot of head room from >> the rear seat. Getting in the rear seat in awkward, and getting out damn >> uncomfortable. Really not much better than trying to exit the rear "seat" >> of the Mustang. >> >> Opening the trunk and the gas tank door are both unusual and tricky. I >> don't think I have ever succeeded on the first try. The instruments are >> part analog and part digital, and totally confusing. The electronics for >> radio and cell phone are simply old fashioned. Even the seat belts are >> difficult to operate. The trunk is adequate, but not what I had expected >> from the size of the car. I am really wondering how I am going to get four >> passengers and luggage for three into it when I take my wife and her >> friends to the airport in a couple of weeks. >> >> I wonder why our government even thought it reasonable to bail out a >> company which doesn't seem to understand what consumers want and need. >> >> End of rant. We now return you to our regular programming. >> >> >> Dan Matyola >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Chevy Maliboo
Bill IIRC, your issues were mainly quality/ reliability related. Dan's issues as he listed them are design related - they were meant to be the way he observed. Quite a difference IMO. -Original Message- >From: Bill >Subject: Re: OT: Chevy Maliboo > >I understand your pain. Out of five GM vehicles I have had direct >contact with,either through ownership or family ownership, as well as >one that had GM components, I have had bad experiences with five of the six. >Apparently, my experience (and yours) is not common, and GM vehicles are >God's gift to the auto industry. >Or not. >I will never buy another GM vehicle, or any vehicle that uses GM components. >They are turds on wheels. > >bill > >On 1/28/2017 2:21 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >> I just need to vent a bit. >> >> I know Paul and others here are fond of GM cars, but based on my experience >> the past 2 weeks I really wonder how Government Motors stays in business. >> >> Lee and I usually rent a compact car here in Maui: gas is expensive, and >> parking spaces are tight. This year, however, our son accompanied us for >> the first two weeks of the trip, and two friends will join us here for the >> last week, so we needed a larger car with more luggage room. I therefore >> asked Avis for an intermediate car, which is described as "a Nissan Altima >> or similar." >> >> What they gave us instead is a Chevy Malibu. I can only describe it as >> spectacularly mediocre. I can't remember when I have been less pleased >> with a rental from Avis. >> >> At home we have a classic Mustang, a 2016 Kia Optima, a 10 year old Altima >> and a 20 year old Optima. I have owned Buicks in the past. I am generally >> not fussy about cars. >> >> The Mallibu seems to my eye to be slightly dated in style. In order to >> give it the "sleek" look, however, they how removed a lot of head room from >> the rear seat. Getting in the rear seat in awkward, and getting out damn >> uncomfortable. Really not much better than trying to exit the rear "seat" >> of the Mustang. >> >> Opening the trunk and the gas tank door are both unusual and tricky. I >> don't think I have ever succeeded on the first try. The instruments are >> part analog and part digital, and totally confusing. The electronics for >> radio and cell phone are simply old fashioned. Even the seat belts are >> difficult to operate. The trunk is adequate, but not what I had expected >> from the size of the car. I am really wondering how I am going to get four >> passengers and luggage for three into it when I take my wife and her >> friends to the airport in a couple of weeks. >> >> I wonder why our government even thought it reasonable to bail out a >> company which doesn't seem to understand what consumers want and need. >> >> End of rant. We now return you to our regular programming. >> >> >> Dan Matyola >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Chevy Maliboo
I understand your pain. Out of five GM vehicles I have had direct contact with,either through ownership or family ownership, as well as one that had GM components, I have had bad experiences with five of the six. Apparently, my experience (and yours) is not common, and GM vehicles are God's gift to the auto industry. Or not. I will never buy another GM vehicle, or any vehicle that uses GM components. They are turds on wheels. bill On 1/28/2017 2:21 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I just need to vent a bit. I know Paul and others here are fond of GM cars, but based on my experience the past 2 weeks I really wonder how Government Motors stays in business. Lee and I usually rent a compact car here in Maui: gas is expensive, and parking spaces are tight. This year, however, our son accompanied us for the first two weeks of the trip, and two friends will join us here for the last week, so we needed a larger car with more luggage room. I therefore asked Avis for an intermediate car, which is described as "a Nissan Altima or similar." What they gave us instead is a Chevy Malibu. I can only describe it as spectacularly mediocre. I can't remember when I have been less pleased with a rental from Avis. At home we have a classic Mustang, a 2016 Kia Optima, a 10 year old Altima and a 20 year old Optima. I have owned Buicks in the past. I am generally not fussy about cars. The Mallibu seems to my eye to be slightly dated in style. In order to give it the "sleek" look, however, they how removed a lot of head room from the rear seat. Getting in the rear seat in awkward, and getting out damn uncomfortable. Really not much better than trying to exit the rear "seat" of the Mustang. Opening the trunk and the gas tank door are both unusual and tricky. I don't think I have ever succeeded on the first try. The instruments are part analog and part digital, and totally confusing. The electronics for radio and cell phone are simply old fashioned. Even the seat belts are difficult to operate. The trunk is adequate, but not what I had expected from the size of the car. I am really wondering how I am going to get four passengers and luggage for three into it when I take my wife and her friends to the airport in a couple of weeks. I wonder why our government even thought it reasonable to bail out a company which doesn't seem to understand what consumers want and need. End of rant. We now return you to our regular programming. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ISO invariance
If I remember correctly, there was a discussion on the list related to the color rendering in low light and ISO invariance. I don't rember all the arguments, but I have two factors in mind that may affect the colors. But first, - just in case: have you checked that both the temperature and the tint numbers (as seen in LR) are the same for both photos? 1. With the colors that have very low RGB numbers in one or two color channels, it is easy to imagine that small variations due to discretization play a noticable role in the outcome once amplified (i.e. amplification of the rounding error). 2. With the low levels in one or two color channels, you effectively compress the dynamic range at the lower end (which, I suspect might even yield bending, as someone on this thready has mentioned already). [I am too busy/lazy at the moment to think carefully about this second argument. Please, don't kick too hard... ;-) ] Actually, one other question: can the specifics of what LR does to the RAW file (what they refer to as "process version") affect the color outcome. I.e., if one used the process from the earlier versions of LR (e.g. LR 1.x) and from the latest, could the outcome be different? Igor On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Gonz wrote: Ok. I've done some experiments to test this whole ISO invariance subject, which some ascribe almost mythological healing powers to underexposed images. I'll reveal one pair of experimental images after I have my methodology down. Hence this post. The results were so surprising, that it made me question my methodology. Here is what I did. 1. take an image with ISO 1600 properly exposed. Use manual and set shutter and aperture for image result that takes up most of the histogram (avoid blowing highlights) 2. take a second image with same shutter and aperture but at ISO 100. I.e. 4 stops underexposed. 3. Import into lightroom, compensate +4 exposure on the underexposed ISO 100 image. My lightroom has a limit of +4, hence the selection of 100 and 1600 for ISO values. Images should look roughly the same if this methodology is right? Are the ISO values correct? 100 * 2^4 = 1600, or is this wrong? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Chevy Maliboo
Maybe you got the previous model. Car & Driver likes Malibu, and it sells very well. No government motors btw. All loans long since paid off. http://www.caranddriver.com/chevrolet/malibu Paul via phone > On Jan 28, 2017, at 3:21 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > I just need to vent a bit. > > I know Paul and others here are fond of GM cars, but based on my experience > the past 2 weeks I really wonder how Government Motors stays in business. > > Lee and I usually rent a compact car here in Maui: gas is expensive, and > parking spaces are tight. This year, however, our son accompanied us for > the first two weeks of the trip, and two friends will join us here for the > last week, so we needed a larger car with more luggage room. I therefore > asked Avis for an intermediate car, which is described as "a Nissan Altima > or similar." > > What they gave us instead is a Chevy Malibu. I can only describe it as > spectacularly mediocre. I can't remember when I have been less pleased > with a rental from Avis. > > At home we have a classic Mustang, a 2016 Kia Optima, a 10 year old Altima > and a 20 year old Optima. I have owned Buicks in the past. I am generally > not fussy about cars. > > The Mallibu seems to my eye to be slightly dated in style. In order to > give it the "sleek" look, however, they how removed a lot of head room from > the rear seat. Getting in the rear seat in awkward, and getting out damn > uncomfortable. Really not much better than trying to exit the rear "seat" > of the Mustang. > > Opening the trunk and the gas tank door are both unusual and tricky. I > don't think I have ever succeeded on the first try. The instruments are > part analog and part digital, and totally confusing. The electronics for > radio and cell phone are simply old fashioned. Even the seat belts are > difficult to operate. The trunk is adequate, but not what I had expected > from the size of the car. I am really wondering how I am going to get four > passengers and luggage for three into it when I take my wife and her > friends to the airport in a couple of weeks. > > I wonder why our government even thought it reasonable to bail out a > company which doesn't seem to understand what consumers want and need. > > End of rant. We now return you to our regular programming. > > > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Chevy Maliboo
Sorry for your issues Dan, but its music to my ears as a retired Ford salaried worker You really should go back to Avis and demand a different vehicle - speak to the station manager and you should get your wish. Alot of times the rental fleets are made up of vehicles that aren't selling well for what ever reason and that might be the case with the vehicle you have. Keep calm and carry on. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola" Subject: OT: Chevy Maliboo I just need to vent a bit. I know Paul and others here are fond of GM cars, but based on my experience the past 2 weeks I really wonder how Government Motors stays in business. Lee and I usually rent a compact car here in Maui: gas is expensive, and parking spaces are tight. This year, however, our son accompanied us for the first two weeks of the trip, and two friends will join us here for the last week, so we needed a larger car with more luggage room. I therefore asked Avis for an intermediate car, which is described as "a Nissan Altima or similar." What they gave us instead is a Chevy Malibu. I can only describe it as spectacularly mediocre. I can't remember when I have been less pleased with a rental from Avis. At home we have a classic Mustang, a 2016 Kia Optima, a 10 year old Altima and a 20 year old Optima. I have owned Buicks in the past. I am generally not fussy about cars. The Mallibu seems to my eye to be slightly dated in style. In order to give it the "sleek" look, however, they how removed a lot of head room from the rear seat. Getting in the rear seat in awkward, and getting out damn uncomfortable. Really not much better than trying to exit the rear "seat" of the Mustang. Opening the trunk and the gas tank door are both unusual and tricky. I don't think I have ever succeeded on the first try. The instruments are part analog and part digital, and totally confusing. The electronics for radio and cell phone are simply old fashioned. Even the seat belts are difficult to operate. The trunk is adequate, but not what I had expected from the size of the car. I am really wondering how I am going to get four passengers and luggage for three into it when I take my wife and her friends to the airport in a couple of weeks. I wonder why our government even thought it reasonable to bail out a company which doesn't seem to understand what consumers want and need. End of rant. We now return you to our regular programming. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Chevy Maliboo
I just need to vent a bit. I know Paul and others here are fond of GM cars, but based on my experience the past 2 weeks I really wonder how Government Motors stays in business. Lee and I usually rent a compact car here in Maui: gas is expensive, and parking spaces are tight. This year, however, our son accompanied us for the first two weeks of the trip, and two friends will join us here for the last week, so we needed a larger car with more luggage room. I therefore asked Avis for an intermediate car, which is described as "a Nissan Altima or similar." What they gave us instead is a Chevy Malibu. I can only describe it as spectacularly mediocre. I can't remember when I have been less pleased with a rental from Avis. At home we have a classic Mustang, a 2016 Kia Optima, a 10 year old Altima and a 20 year old Optima. I have owned Buicks in the past. I am generally not fussy about cars. The Mallibu seems to my eye to be slightly dated in style. In order to give it the "sleek" look, however, they how removed a lot of head room from the rear seat. Getting in the rear seat in awkward, and getting out damn uncomfortable. Really not much better than trying to exit the rear "seat" of the Mustang. Opening the trunk and the gas tank door are both unusual and tricky. I don't think I have ever succeeded on the first try. The instruments are part analog and part digital, and totally confusing. The electronics for radio and cell phone are simply old fashioned. Even the seat belts are difficult to operate. The trunk is adequate, but not what I had expected from the size of the car. I am really wondering how I am going to get four passengers and luggage for three into it when I take my wife and her friends to the airport in a couple of weeks. I wonder why our government even thought it reasonable to bail out a company which doesn't seem to understand what consumers want and need. End of rant. We now return you to our regular programming. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
And this is why I don't believe in the cloud.
So, i decided to download the latest version of Adobe Bridge. It should work with my current hardware and even if it's not completely compatible with all the software I run, it should be able to interact with most. I've been trying to download it for about five days now, and it keeps failing about a third of the way through. Sheesh, and they want me to keep important files on internet servers... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Whale Watch
Thanks, Alan! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 6:51 AM, Alan C wrote: > Splendid stuff, Dan. Something I've never seen. I would say you got DOWN > to some great action photography. > > Alan C > > -Original Message- From: Daniel J. Matyola > Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 10:04 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: GESO: Whale Watch > > > Just to let you know what I was up to Yesterday: > > http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1095567 > > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I know it won't last, but ...
made my choices the othwr day and finally got around to submitting this morning Not much to choose from tlast year but i did my bets Dave On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 7:06 AM, Alan C wrote: > Deeper sigh, deepest sigh (with apologies to Obelix). > > Alan C > > -Original Message- From: Rick Womer > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 5:17 AM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: I know it won't last, but ... > > > Well, for me... > > No images selected for The Book yet, and I'm pretty disappointed with > 2016's output. > > Have a PUG pic but not posted yet. > > Dislocated my right shoulder after falling on a slick walkway, so no > shooting for a couple of weeks. > > Sigh... > > Rick > > On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 17:45 John wrote: > >> I'm feeling pretty good right now. >> >> Got my submissions for the PDML Annual in reasonably early, even though >> 3 acceptable quality images represents WAY too large of a percentage of >> my work last year. Found something good for the February PUG, and better >> still, when I went to shoot it, everything actually seemed to work out >> for once. And this time, I'm not struggling against the deadline. >> >> I've already managed to get out to do some photography four times in >> January and it seems like every one of my outings has produced at least >> one image that's not complete crap. >> >> >> -- >> Science - Questions we may never find answers for. >> Religion - Answers we must never question. >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > -- > http://photo.net/photos/RickW > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Shake a Tail Feather
Thanks Ann. You're being a bit naughty. I love it! Paul > On Jan 28, 2017, at 10:59 AM, ann sanfedele wrote: > > Anohter winner from steady Stenquist > > He's saying watch my ass.. > > sort of a grab ass shot (groan) > ann > > > On 1/28/2017 8:31 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: >> Diffuse light through heavy fog. >> >> Paul via phone >> >>> On Jan 28, 2017, at 7:01 AM, Alan C wrote: >>> >>> Back lit? I get the impression he's telling you to butt out. >>> >>> Alan C >>> >>> -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist >>> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 9:33 PM >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> Subject: PESO Shake a Tail Feather >>> >>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18336829&size=lg >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> >>> --- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Shake a Tail Feather
Anohter winner from steady Stenquist He's saying watch my ass.. sort of a grab ass shot (groan) ann On 1/28/2017 8:31 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Diffuse light through heavy fog. Paul via phone On Jan 28, 2017, at 7:01 AM, Alan C wrote: Back lit? I get the impression he's telling you to butt out. Alan C -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 9:33 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO Shake a Tail Feather http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18336829&size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOs (2) - Wash Day in Alfama
I think the first one is much more interesting, but comes up too light on my monitor whereas the one with the jeans is just right exposure wise... suggestion in the first.. chop off about half of the rocky street , darken the highlights then up contrast a tad.. also would be fine in BW, yes? great grab , regardless. ann On 1/27/2017 9:48 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I like the second image. I find the first enigmatic, but a bit confusing and disorienting. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 9:43 PM, Rick Womer wrote: In Lisbon: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18333420 and http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18333417 (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments appreciated. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ISO invariance
First thing I see is the camera moved between the two shots. The second one includes more of the ambient light in the background. You should probably have used a tripod to ensure identical scenes for your comparison. On 1/27/2017 6:34 PM, Gonz wrote: I'm using the K-5, considered one of the ISO invariant cameras. Here are the images: Properly exposed with ISO1600: https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/32559204535/in/dateposted-public/ +4 compensation at ISO 100: https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/32179978780/in/dateposted-public/ The colors are where the extreme differences are. The histogram actually goes to the right at about the same spot. On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 5:28 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Gonz wrote: Ok. I've done some experiments to test this whole ISO invariance subject, which some ascribe almost mythological healing powers to underexposed images. I'll reveal one pair of experimental images after I have my methodology down. Hence this post. The results were so surprising, that it made me question my methodology. Which body are you using? Here is what I did. 1. take an image with ISO 1600 properly exposed. Use manual and set shutter and aperture for image result that takes up most of the histogram (avoid blowing highlights) 2. take a second image with same shutter and aperture but at ISO 100. I.e. 4 stops underexposed. 3. Import into lightroom, compensate +4 exposure on the underexposed ISO 100 image. My lightroom has a limit of +4, hence the selection of 100 and 1600 for ISO values. Images should look roughly the same if this methodology is right? Are the ISO values correct? 100 * 2^4 = 1600, or is this wrong? It looks right to me. Before I had heard of ISO invariance, I sort of discovered it accidentally. When not shooting action, and when I don't want to bother chimping the histogram for every shot, or when I'm shooting wide dynamic range images I'll just bracket, generally three exposures +/- 2 or three stops. My preferred auto exposure mode is usually Tav. I noticed that when bracketing in Tav, after correcting my exposure in lightroom, I generally couldn't see much difference between the three shots. Do note that in the "over" shots I'd get a bit more clipping, and in the "under" shots, I'd sometimes get a bit more noise in the shadows. Also, there seem to be some nonlinearities in the way LR processes files, so they wouldn't always all come out exactly the same after processing, but yeah, modulo some channel clipping, they'd look pretty close. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Shake a Tail Feather
Diffuse light through heavy fog. Paul via phone > On Jan 28, 2017, at 7:01 AM, Alan C wrote: > > Back lit? I get the impression he's telling you to butt out. > > Alan C > > -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist > Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 9:33 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: PESO Shake a Tail Feather > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18336829&size=lg > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOs (2) - Wash Day in Alfama
Fascinating look at a simpler way to live. Paul via phone > On Jan 28, 2017, at 7:04 AM, Alan C wrote: > > The first one has so much going for it. The amazing mural, the classic > window, the shadows, the cobblestones &, of course, the washing. A pleb like > me probably wouldn't have even noticed. > > Alan C > > -Original Message- From: Rick Womer > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 4:43 AM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: PESOs (2) - Wash Day in Alfama > > In Lisbon: > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18333420 > > and > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18333417 > > (K-5, DA 16-45) > > Comments appreciated. > > Rick > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Whale Watch
Pacific Life could certainly put these to good commercial use. Well done, Dan! J Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 28, 2017, at 3:51 AM, Alan C wrote: > > Splendid stuff, Dan. Something I've never seen. I would say you got DOWN to > some great action photography. > > Alan C > > -Original Message- From: Daniel J. Matyola > Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 10:04 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: GESO: Whale Watch > > Just to let you know what I was up to Yesterday: > > http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1095567 > > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOs (2) - Wash Day in Alfama
The first one has so much going for it. The amazing mural, the classic window, the shadows, the cobblestones &, of course, the washing. A pleb like me probably wouldn't have even noticed. Alan C -Original Message- From: Rick Womer Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 4:43 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESOs (2) - Wash Day in Alfama In Lisbon: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18333420 and http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18333417 (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments appreciated. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Whale Watch
Splendid stuff, Dan. Something I've never seen. I would say you got DOWN to some great action photography. Alan C -Original Message- From: Daniel J. Matyola Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 10:04 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: GESO: Whale Watch Just to let you know what I was up to Yesterday: http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1095567 Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I know it won't last, but ...
Deeper sigh, deepest sigh (with apologies to Obelix). Alan C -Original Message- From: Rick Womer Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 5:17 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: I know it won't last, but ... Well, for me... No images selected for The Book yet, and I'm pretty disappointed with 2016's output. Have a PUG pic but not posted yet. Dislocated my right shoulder after falling on a slick walkway, so no shooting for a couple of weeks. Sigh... Rick On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 17:45 John wrote: I'm feeling pretty good right now. Got my submissions for the PDML Annual in reasonably early, even though 3 acceptable quality images represents WAY too large of a percentage of my work last year. Found something good for the February PUG, and better still, when I went to shoot it, everything actually seemed to work out for once. And this time, I'm not struggling against the deadline. I've already managed to get out to do some photography four times in January and it seems like every one of my outings has produced at least one image that's not complete crap. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://photo.net/photos/RickW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Shake a Tail Feather
Back lit? I get the impression he's telling you to butt out. Alan C -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 9:33 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO Shake a Tail Feather http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18336829&size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Disgustingly large GESO
> On Jan 27, 2017, at 11:58 AM, John wrote: > > It looks to me like it only appears where the highlights are blown out. > > I'm guessing the artifact was always there, but it only became visible > when you brightened the scene overall in post processing. > > Now that you know about it, you can adjust for it; maybe by using an > adjustment brush rather than global adjustments (if you're using > Lightroom). Thanks, John. I’ll probably be using the camera less than in the past. But I’d hate to give it up. It’s only a compact, but my experience of it is as a wonderful little camera. My only wish has been for a little more manual control. I get a little of that with the Fuji X-M1 I’ve just acquired. A bit larger but still a small camera. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net (I)t is important that awake people be awake... the darkness around us is deep. - William Stafford -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ISO invariance
Your resulting exposure levels are not the same which is why you have a difference in color. If you put them side by side in lightroom and evened them out they should be identical. Interesting. I had no idea the k-5 was also iso invariant. On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Gonz wrote: > Ok. I've done some experiments to test this whole ISO invariance > subject, which some ascribe almost mythological healing powers to > underexposed images. I'll reveal one pair of experimental images > after I have my methodology down. Hence this post. The results were > so surprising, that it made me question my methodology. > > Here is what I did. > > 1. take an image with ISO 1600 properly exposed. Use manual and set > shutter and aperture for image result that takes up most of the > histogram (avoid blowing highlights) > 2. take a second image with same shutter and aperture but at ISO 100. > I.e. 4 stops underexposed. > 3. Import into lightroom, compensate +4 exposure on the underexposed > ISO 100 image. > > My lightroom has a limit of +4, hence the selection of 100 and 1600 > for ISO values. > > Images should look roughly the same if this methodology is right? Are > the ISO values correct? 100 * 2^4 = 1600, or is this wrong? > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I know it won't last, but ...
> On 28 Jan 2017, at 03:18, Rick Womer wrote: > > Dislocated my right shoulder after falling on a slick walkway, so no > shooting for a couple of weeks. > > Sigh... > Look after yourself! Imagine how good all the shots you're missing are! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
