date:20171005

Wow! It's simply gorgeous. And so much more so in the. 12-inch version. It's a 
treasure that every PDML member will want.

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Re: Windows tech knowledge guys - regarding Adobe Flash HELP

Well then, no wifi! Carry on ! :-)

Paul via phone

> On Oct 5, 2017, at 9:35 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> I don't want Wi_FI.I have a flip phone that is used only for talk and 
> very occasional text between phones -- no
> web access at all. ... I feel cable only connection to the web is safer - I 
> only go on line from my lovely big Hp desktop.
> ands my TV is only a TV -it isn't "smart".
> 
> simplify, simplify, simplify :-)
> 
> ann the happy old schooler
> 
>> On 10/5/2017 9:23 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> I missed some of this thread, do my question may be a repeat. Why no wifi? 
>> You have a cell?
>> 
>> Paul via phone
>> 
>>> On Oct 5, 2017, at 8:23 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>>> 
>>> well - after an hour on the phone with Spectrum tech gal (who gets a gold 
>>> star , btw) because my auto set up didn't work - I have lovely high speed 
>>> now and a fully functional modem WITHOUT wi-fi.  Before getting this new 
>>> modem
>>> I had my very own modem, for the last  um year or so, to save the time 
>>> warner charges, but all the set up stuff
>>> on line assumed I had a time warner modem that I had yet to return.
>>> 
>>> catch 22  but eventually the young lady worked it out - a herculean task 
>>> I'm sure.  When it finally did get going
>>> the three little blue lights at the bottom of the modem were no longer.  
>>> WI-fi disabled and all is right with the world.
>>> I kinda liked finally convincing her that if things were working properly 
>>> those little blue lights next to 2.4G,5.4G and MoCA should be off.
>>> 
>>> ann
>>> 
 On 10/5/2017 5:03 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:
 So...here's another Spectrum conundrum for you...I have a 3TB NAS that's 
 supposed to work with DHCP.  But when you set it up to get a dynamic IP 
 address it works for a while, then drops off-line, requiring a re-boot to 
 get it back.  The known work-around is to set it up with a static IP 
 address.  Do that and it's stable. But...here's the kicker...Spectrum will 
 not let you set up static IP addresses on their modem/router unless you 
 pay extra to subscribe their their wireless service.
 
 -p
 
 
> On 10/5/2017 3:42 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
> sounds like I should just keep away from it... - I got my new modem...  I 
> wont ahve to run a speed test if it speeds up :-)
> 
> thanks, Bruce!
> 
> ann
> 
>> On 10/5/2017 12:55 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>> Flash is dead. It's in legacy mode and will disappear completely soon
>> enough. It generally doesn't run at all on mobile devices, and web
>> browsers have it disabled by default, a pretty strong hint to avoid
>> using it.
>> 
>> Cue the MP parrot thread ...
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 12:49 PM, P. J. Alling
>>  wrote:
>>> I'm not a big fan of flash, and Adobe tried, really tried, to turn it 
>>> into a
>>> web development language, but it's still a solution in search of a 
>>> problem.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 10/5/2017 12:15 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
 eric I did that -- it said i needed tha latest version and didn't have
 it..
 I never use explorer
 
 but since pj sent a link.. I'll try
 
> On 10/5/2017 11:48 AM, Eric Featherstone wrote:
> It worked for me in chrome and firefox, but in internet explorer the
> result page didn't work - just blank white.
> 
> try your spectrum website speed test with chrome perhaps? That should
> should already have flash built-in.
> 
> Eric.
> 
>> On 5 October 2017 at 16:34, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>> coldn't get  that speed test to work for me, Eric
>> ann
>> 
> On 10/5/2017 8:42 AM, Eric Featherstone wrote:
> 
> On 5 October 2017 at 14:25, ann sanfedele  
> wrote:
> I thought I had adobe flash but apparently not - I tried to do a
> speed
> test
> on Spectrum web site and it says it needs
> Adobe Flash.. yesterday it gave me a plug in to click on.. today I
> get
> nada.
 The speed tester at : http://beta.speedtest.net/
 doesn't require flash, so you should be good to go.
 (Their legacy speedtest page does require flash, so don't bother 
 with
 that.)
 
 
> I have windoze 7 pro - where is it safe to gather and install it 
> to
> use
> on
> either or both Firefox and chrome?
 FWIW Chrome has flash built in, and when chrome auto-updates it 
 also
 updates its version of flash. Personally I'm reluctant to install

Re: Windows tech knowledge guys - regarding Adobe Flash HELP

I don't want Wi_FI.    I have a flip phone that is used only for talk 
and very occasional text between phones -- no
web access at all. ... I feel cable only connection to the web is safer 
- I only go on line from my lovely big Hp desktop.

ands my TV is only a TV -it isn't "smart".

simplify, simplify, simplify :-)

ann the happy old schooler

On 10/5/2017 9:23 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I missed some of this thread, do my question may be a repeat. Why no wifi? You 
have a cell?

Paul via phone


On Oct 5, 2017, at 8:23 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

well - after an hour on the phone with Spectrum tech gal (who gets a gold star 
, btw) because my auto set up didn't work - I have lovely high speed now and a 
fully functional modem WITHOUT wi-fi.  Before getting this new modem
I had my very own modem, for the last  um year or so, to save the time warner 
charges, but all the set up stuff
on line assumed I had a time warner modem that I had yet to return.

catch 22  but eventually the young lady worked it out - a herculean task I'm 
sure.  When it finally did get going
the three little blue lights at the bottom of the modem were no longer.  WI-fi 
disabled and all is right with the world.
I kinda liked finally convincing her that if things were working properly those 
little blue lights next to 2.4G,5.4G and MoCA should be off.

ann


On 10/5/2017 5:03 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:
So...here's another Spectrum conundrum for you...I have a 3TB NAS that's 
supposed to work with DHCP.  But when you set it up to get a dynamic IP address 
it works for a while, then drops off-line, requiring a re-boot to get it back.  
The known work-around is to set it up with a static IP address.  Do that and 
it's stable. But...here's the kicker...Spectrum will not let you set up static 
IP addresses on their modem/router unless you pay extra to subscribe their 
their wireless service.

-p



On 10/5/2017 3:42 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
sounds like I should just keep away from it... - I got my new modem...  I wont 
ahve to run a speed test if it speeds up :-)

thanks, Bruce!

ann


On 10/5/2017 12:55 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
Flash is dead. It's in legacy mode and will disappear completely soon
enough. It generally doesn't run at all on mobile devices, and web
browsers have it disabled by default, a pretty strong hint to avoid
using it.

Cue the MP parrot thread ...


On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 12:49 PM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:

I'm not a big fan of flash, and Adobe tried, really tried, to turn it into a
web development language, but it's still a solution in search of a problem.




On 10/5/2017 12:15 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
eric I did that -- it said i needed tha latest version and didn't have
it..
I never use explorer

but since pj sent a link.. I'll try


On 10/5/2017 11:48 AM, Eric Featherstone wrote:
It worked for me in chrome and firefox, but in internet explorer the
result page didn't work - just blank white.

try your spectrum website speed test with chrome perhaps? That should
should already have flash built-in.

Eric.


On 5 October 2017 at 16:34, ann sanfedele  wrote:
coldn't get  that speed test to work for me, Eric
ann


On 10/5/2017 8:42 AM, Eric Featherstone wrote:


On 5 October 2017 at 14:25, ann sanfedele  wrote:
I thought I had adobe flash but apparently not - I tried to do a
speed
test
on Spectrum web site and it says it needs
Adobe Flash.. yesterday it gave me a plug in to click on.. today I
get
nada.

The speed tester at : http://beta.speedtest.net/
doesn't require flash, so you should be good to go.
(Their legacy speedtest page does require flash, so don't bother with
that.)



I have windoze 7 pro - where is it safe to gather and install it to
use
on
either or both Firefox and chrome?

FWIW Chrome has flash built in, and when chrome auto-updates it also
updates its version of flash. Personally I'm reluctant to install
flash other than as part of chrome for that reason.





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Re: Windows tech knowledge guys - regarding Adobe Flash HELP

I missed some of this thread, do my question may be a repeat. Why no wifi? You 
have a cell?

Paul via phone

> On Oct 5, 2017, at 8:23 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> well - after an hour on the phone with Spectrum tech gal (who gets a gold 
> star , btw) because my auto set up didn't work - I have lovely high speed now 
> and a fully functional modem WITHOUT wi-fi.  Before getting this new modem
> I had my very own modem, for the last  um year or so, to save the time warner 
> charges, but all the set up stuff
> on line assumed I had a time warner modem that I had yet to return.
> 
> catch 22  but eventually the young lady worked it out - a herculean task I'm 
> sure.  When it finally did get going
> the three little blue lights at the bottom of the modem were no longer.  
> WI-fi disabled and all is right with the world.
> I kinda liked finally convincing her that if things were working properly 
> those little blue lights next to 2.4G,5.4G and MoCA should be off.
> 
> ann
> 
>> On 10/5/2017 5:03 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:
>> So...here's another Spectrum conundrum for you...I have a 3TB NAS that's 
>> supposed to work with DHCP.  But when you set it up to get a dynamic IP 
>> address it works for a while, then drops off-line, requiring a re-boot to 
>> get it back.  The known work-around is to set it up with a static IP 
>> address.  Do that and it's stable. But...here's the kicker...Spectrum will 
>> not let you set up static IP addresses on their modem/router unless you pay 
>> extra to subscribe their their wireless service.
>> 
>> -p
>> 
>> 
>>> On 10/5/2017 3:42 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
>>> sounds like I should just keep away from it... - I got my new modem...  I 
>>> wont ahve to run a speed test if it speeds up :-)
>>> 
>>> thanks, Bruce!
>>> 
>>> ann
>>> 
 On 10/5/2017 12:55 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
 Flash is dead. It's in legacy mode and will disappear completely soon
 enough. It generally doesn't run at all on mobile devices, and web
 browsers have it disabled by default, a pretty strong hint to avoid
 using it.
 
 Cue the MP parrot thread ...
 
 
 On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 12:49 PM, P. J. Alling
  wrote:
> I'm not a big fan of flash, and Adobe tried, really tried, to turn it 
> into a
> web development language, but it's still a solution in search of a 
> problem.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10/5/2017 12:15 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
>> eric I did that -- it said i needed tha latest version and didn't have
>> it..
>> I never use explorer
>> 
>> but since pj sent a link.. I'll try
>> 
>>> On 10/5/2017 11:48 AM, Eric Featherstone wrote:
>>> It worked for me in chrome and firefox, but in internet explorer the
>>> result page didn't work - just blank white.
>>> 
>>> try your spectrum website speed test with chrome perhaps? That should
>>> should already have flash built-in.
>>> 
>>> Eric.
>>> 
 On 5 October 2017 at 16:34, ann sanfedele  wrote:
 coldn't get  that speed test to work for me, Eric
 ann
 
>> On 10/5/2017 8:42 AM, Eric Featherstone wrote:
>> 
>>> On 5 October 2017 at 14:25, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>>> I thought I had adobe flash but apparently not - I tried to do a
>>> speed
>>> test
>>> on Spectrum web site and it says it needs
>>> Adobe Flash.. yesterday it gave me a plug in to click on.. today I
>>> get
>>> nada.
>> The speed tester at : http://beta.speedtest.net/
>> doesn't require flash, so you should be good to go.
>> (Their legacy speedtest page does require flash, so don't bother with
>> that.)
>> 
>> 
>>> I have windoze 7 pro - where is it safe to gather and install it to
>>> use
>>> on
>>> either or both Firefox and chrome?
>> FWIW Chrome has flash built in, and when chrome auto-updates it also
>> updates its version of flash. Personally I'm reluctant to install
>> flash other than as part of chrome for that reason.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Windows tech knowledge guys - regarding Adobe Flash HELP

well - after an hour on the phone with Spectrum tech gal (who gets a 
gold star , btw) because my auto set up didn't work - I have lovely high 
speed now and a fully functional modem WITHOUT wi-fi.  Before getting 
this new modem
I had my very own modem, for the last  um year or so, to save the time 
warner charges, but all the set up stuff

on line assumed I had a time warner modem that I had yet to return.

catch 22  but eventually the young lady worked it out - a herculean task 
I'm sure.  When it finally did get going
the three little blue lights at the bottom of the modem were no longer.  
WI-fi disabled and all is right with the world.
I kinda liked finally convincing her that if things were working 
properly those little blue lights next to 2.4G,5.4G and MoCA should be off.


ann

On 10/5/2017 5:03 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:
So...here's another Spectrum conundrum for you...I have a 3TB NAS 
that's supposed to work with DHCP.  But when you set it up to get a 
dynamic IP address it works for a while, then drops off-line, 
requiring a re-boot to get it back.  The known work-around is to set 
it up with a static IP address.  Do that and it's stable. But...here's 
the kicker...Spectrum will not let you set up static IP addresses on 
their modem/router unless you pay extra to subscribe their their 
wireless service.


-p


On 10/5/2017 3:42 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
sounds like I should just keep away from it... - I got my new 
modem...  I wont ahve to run a speed test if it speeds up :-)


thanks, Bruce!

ann

On 10/5/2017 12:55 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Flash is dead. It's in legacy mode and will disappear completely soon
enough. It generally doesn't run at all on mobile devices, and web
browsers have it disabled by default, a pretty strong hint to avoid
using it.

Cue the MP parrot thread ...


On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 12:49 PM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
I'm not a big fan of flash, and Adobe tried, really tried, to turn 
it into a
web development language, but it's still a solution in search of a 
problem.




On 10/5/2017 12:15 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
eric I did that -- it said i needed tha latest version and didn't 
have

it..
I never use explorer

but since pj sent a link.. I'll try

On 10/5/2017 11:48 AM, Eric Featherstone wrote:

It worked for me in chrome and firefox, but in internet explorer the
result page didn't work - just blank white.

try your spectrum website speed test with chrome perhaps? That 
should

should already have flash built-in.

Eric.

On 5 October 2017 at 16:34, ann sanfedele  wrote:

coldn't get  that speed test to work for me, Eric
ann


On 10/5/2017 8:42 AM, Eric Featherstone wrote:

On 5 October 2017 at 14:25, ann sanfedele  
wrote:

I thought I had adobe flash but apparently not - I tried to do a
speed
test
on Spectrum web site and it says it needs
Adobe Flash.. yesterday it gave me a plug in to click on.. 
today I

get
nada.

The speed tester at : http://beta.speedtest.net/
doesn't require flash, so you should be good to go.
(Their legacy speedtest page does require flash, so don't 
bother with

that.)


I have windoze 7 pro - where is it safe to gather and install 
it to

use
on
either or both Firefox and chrome?
FWIW Chrome has flash built in, and when chrome auto-updates 
it also

updates its version of flash. Personally I'm reluctant to install
flash other than as part of chrome for that reason.





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Re: RE - Missing Exif data

2017-10-05 Thread Ken Waller

My guess would be if you see, e.g. which lens was used in the converted 
file, the makernote field has been copied.


FWIW after conversion to DNG the Exif data does show lens and camera body by 
name.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "Igor PDML-StR" 

Subject: RE - Missing Exif data




Ken,
Yes, as I've written in response to your original message, - "Makernote" 
field needs to be understood by the software that works with the image.
Typically, good software, even if it doesn't understand that field, should 
leave those fields in EXIF intact, just carrying it over when saving a new 
or edited file. This way you can still open that file in a different 
software that understands that field (for the required camera).


I don't know how Adobe DNG converter behaves in this respect.

My guess would be if you see, e.g. which lens was used in the converted 
file, the makernote field has been copied. (But it is possible that
it gets written to yet another field in a clear-text format. -- Did 
someone mention that earlier?)



If you are interested to find out what is in the original file, and which 
information is carried over, I'd recommend using e.g. ExifTool:

https://www.scantips.com/lights/exif.html , looking at the file
before and after DNG conversion.


Igor


Ken Waller Wed, 04 Oct 2017 12:02:09 -0700 wrote:

Just got a Tim Grey Newsletter in which he explains that while using the 
Adobe DNG converter will retain the original pixel data from the original 
capture, there are some 'private' metadata from the camera that may be 
lost. That data would generally relate to unique features of a specific 
camera model which would require software from the camera manufacturer to 
fully display.



Seems to answer a question I posted awhile back about possibly missing
Exif data relating to my K3 regarding shutter state (time delay,
bracketing etc).



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Re: RE - Missing Exif data

2017-10-05 Thread John Francis

On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 05:03:17PM -0400, Stanley Halpin wrote:
> My reading of the Tim Grey comment and other bits and pieces is that we who 
> start with DNG will forever lose the Pentax unique data because there is no 
> slot in the DNG package for that. 

There is a slot in the package - the "MakerNote" tag.
The DNG spec defines that tag.  The camera writes out a MakerNote tag, but the
DNG processor doesn't know anything about the contents of the tag - the only
information it uses is the amount of data included in the tag. But that's more
than enough to be able to copy the tag contents to any new file.

Even those of us who started out with PEF files, and then ran those through the
DNG converter to create DNGs, don't lose the Pentax private data.

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Re: temptation of eve on dropbox

Thanks Bruce and Paul. I too like 3 the best. The world has changed in the 13 
years since I last posted these.

Paul via phone

> On Oct 5, 2017, at 4:44 PM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:
> 
> I'd have to agree with Bruce's assessment.  Thanks for putting them where we 
> have better access.
> 
> -p
> 
> 
>> On 10/5/2017 2:37 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>> They're fun shots, Paul. I do like the added knife reflection. Overall
>> I think I like eve3 best.
>> 
>> I don't find them disturbing or sacrilegious, but then I'm not one to
>> judge on religious matters.
>> 
>> Thanks for indulging us and putting them up on Dropbox!
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 2:30 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>>> I don’t think anyone would consider them hot. Disturbing perhaps. and 
>>> sacrilegious. I spotted the “devil” in a Starbucks and knew she was right 
>>> for the part. The other girl was her friend. They lived together, and both 
>>> had boyfriends, but their relationship seemed special as well. Nice ladies 
>>> who were into having some photo fun.
>>> 
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/9bh37g8mr106fxg/tempteve1.jpg?dl=0
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/do3rtqu0kos2csu/tempteve2.jpg?dl=0
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/w9dp5krhl67w92b/tempteve3.jpg?dl=0
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Re: Windows tech knowledge guys - regarding Adobe Flash HELP

So...here's another Spectrum conundrum for you...I have a 3TB NAS that's 
supposed to work with DHCP.  But when you set it up to get a dynamic IP 
address it works for a while, then drops off-line, requiring a re-boot 
to get it back.  The known work-around is to set it up with a static IP 
address.  Do that and it's stable. But...here's the kicker...Spectrum 
will not let you set up static IP addresses on their modem/router unless 
you pay extra to subscribe their their wireless service.


-p


On 10/5/2017 3:42 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
sounds like I should just keep away from it... - I got my new 
modem...  I wont ahve to run a speed test if it speeds up :-)


thanks, Bruce!

ann

On 10/5/2017 12:55 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Flash is dead. It's in legacy mode and will disappear completely soon
enough. It generally doesn't run at all on mobile devices, and web
browsers have it disabled by default, a pretty strong hint to avoid
using it.

Cue the MP parrot thread ...


On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 12:49 PM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
I'm not a big fan of flash, and Adobe tried, really tried, to turn 
it into a
web development language, but it's still a solution in search of a 
problem.




On 10/5/2017 12:15 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:

eric I did that -- it said i needed tha latest version and didn't have
it..
I never use explorer

but since pj sent a link.. I'll try

On 10/5/2017 11:48 AM, Eric Featherstone wrote:

It worked for me in chrome and firefox, but in internet explorer the
result page didn't work - just blank white.

try your spectrum website speed test with chrome perhaps? That should
should already have flash built-in.

Eric.

On 5 October 2017 at 16:34, ann sanfedele  wrote:

coldn't get  that speed test to work for me, Eric
ann


On 10/5/2017 8:42 AM, Eric Featherstone wrote:

On 5 October 2017 at 14:25, ann sanfedele  
wrote:

I thought I had adobe flash but apparently not - I tried to do a
speed
test
on Spectrum web site and it says it needs
Adobe Flash.. yesterday it gave me a plug in to click on.. 
today I

get
nada.

The speed tester at : http://beta.speedtest.net/
doesn't require flash, so you should be good to go.
(Their legacy speedtest page does require flash, so don't 
bother with

that.)


I have windoze 7 pro - where is it safe to gather and install 
it to

use
on
either or both Firefox and chrome?
FWIW Chrome has flash built in, and when chrome auto-updates it 
also

updates its version of flash. Personally I'm reluctant to install
flash other than as part of chrome for that reason.





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Re: RE - Missing Exif data

2017-10-05 Thread Stanley Halpin

My reading of the Tim Grey comment and other bits and pieces is that we who 
start with DNG will forever lose the Pentax unique data because there is no 
slot in the DNG package for that. 
As I write that, it seems to me that it doesn’t make sense. I would think that 
any miscellaneous data would be written to a unused data field, probably never 
to be retrieved again. But it seems it should be there somewhere…

stan

> On Oct 5, 2017, at 3:33 PM, John  wrote:
> 
> What about when DNG *is* your original data?
> 
> On 10/4/2017 15:01, Ken Waller wrote:
>> Just got a Tim Grey Newsletter in which he explains that while using the 
>> Adobe DNG converter will retain the original pixel data from the original 
>> capture, there are some 'private' metadata from the camera that may be lost. 
>> That data would generally relate to unique features of a specific camera 
>> model which would require software from the camera manufacturer to fully 
>> display.
>> Seems to answer a question I posted awhile back about possibly missing
>> Exif data relating to my K3 regarding shutter state (time delay, bracketing 
>> etc).
>> Kenneth Waller
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
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Re: temptation of eve on dropbox

I'd have to agree with Bruce's assessment.  Thanks for putting them 
where we have better access.


-p


On 10/5/2017 2:37 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

They're fun shots, Paul. I do like the added knife reflection. Overall
I think I like eve3 best.

I don't find them disturbing or sacrilegious, but then I'm not one to
judge on religious matters.

Thanks for indulging us and putting them up on Dropbox!


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I don’t think anyone would consider them hot. Disturbing perhaps. and 
sacrilegious. I spotted the “devil” in a Starbucks and knew she was right for 
the part. The other girl was her friend. They lived together, and both had 
boyfriends, but their relationship seemed special as well. Nice ladies who were 
into having some photo fun.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9bh37g8mr106fxg/tempteve1.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/do3rtqu0kos2csu/tempteve2.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/w9dp5krhl67w92b/tempteve3.jpg?dl=0
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Re: Windows tech knowledge guys - regarding Adobe Flash HELP

sounds like I should just keep away from it... - I got my new modem...  
I wont ahve to run a speed test if it speeds up :-)


thanks, Bruce!

ann

On 10/5/2017 12:55 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Flash is dead. It's in legacy mode and will disappear completely soon
enough. It generally doesn't run at all on mobile devices, and web
browsers have it disabled by default, a pretty strong hint to avoid
using it.

Cue the MP parrot thread ...


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I'm not a big fan of flash, and Adobe tried, really tried, to turn it into a
web development language, but it's still a solution in search of a problem.



On 10/5/2017 12:15 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:

eric I did that -- it said i needed tha latest version and didn't have
it..
I never use explorer

but since pj sent a link.. I'll try

On 10/5/2017 11:48 AM, Eric Featherstone wrote:

It worked for me in chrome and firefox, but in internet explorer the
result page didn't work - just blank white.

try your spectrum website speed test with chrome perhaps? That should
should already have flash built-in.

Eric.

On 5 October 2017 at 16:34, ann sanfedele  wrote:

coldn't get  that speed test to work for me, Eric
ann


On 10/5/2017 8:42 AM, Eric Featherstone wrote:


On 5 October 2017 at 14:25, ann sanfedele  wrote:

I thought I had adobe flash but apparently not - I tried to do a
speed
test
on Spectrum web site and it says it needs
Adobe Flash.. yesterday it gave me a plug in to click on.. today I
get
nada.

The speed tester at : http://beta.speedtest.net/
doesn't require flash, so you should be good to go.
(Their legacy speedtest page does require flash, so don't bother with
that.)



I have windoze 7 pro - where is it safe to gather and install it to
use
on
either or both Firefox and chrome?

FWIW Chrome has flash built in, and when chrome auto-updates it also
updates its version of flash. Personally I'm reluctant to install
flash other than as part of chrome for that reason.





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Re: Windows tech knowledge guys - regarding Adobe Flash HELP


Haven't had any problems with my modem since Spectrum took over Time-Warner 
here in Raleigh.

Knock wood.


On 10/5/2017 11:34, ann sanfedele wrote:

I'm getting a new modem today - the techie from Spectrum (who was a time warner 
guy who kept his job) said
my modem was probably partly to blame from problems recently that sounds like 
what you are having , Paul..
hmmm..  a couple of days ago my downlaod speed went down to1.8 but later it was 
back up to 118,

have been having trouble with email.. which includes, but not limited to, 
getting an error message after I've written something that says something is 
not available and not only doesn't upload but doesnt save what I wrote in drafts
in thunderbird.  ugh.

I don't have wi-fi at all... , strictly cable  -

coldn't get  that speed test to work for me, Eric
ann

On 10/5/2017 10:43 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote:

Thanks for that link, Eric.  Do you (or anyone else) know of a link that will 
measure/record signal strength in dB?  Spectrum in our area just gave me an 
upgrade to 100mb down and 10mb up, but I continue to have an issue with signal 
strength that causes the modem to completely drop both phone and internet.  
Spectrum offers the fastest speed, but one needs to have some reliability as 
well.

-p

On 10/5/2017 8:42 AM, Eric Featherstone wrote:


On 5 October 2017 at 14:25, ann sanfedele  wrote:

I thought I had adobe flash but apparently not - I tried to do a speed test
on Spectrum web site and it says it needs
Adobe Flash.. yesterday it gave me a plug in to click on.. today I get nada.

The speed tester at : http://beta.speedtest.net/
doesn't require flash, so you should be good to go.
(Their legacy speedtest page does require flash, so don't bother with that.)



I have windoze 7 pro - where is it safe to gather and install it to use on
either or both Firefox and chrome?

FWIW Chrome has flash built in, and when chrome auto-updates it also
updates its version of flash. Personally I'm reluctant to install
flash other than as part of chrome for that reason.













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Re: temptation of eve on dropbox

2017-10-05 Thread Bruce Walker

They're fun shots, Paul. I do like the added knife reflection. Overall
I think I like eve3 best.

I don't find them disturbing or sacrilegious, but then I'm not one to
judge on religious matters.

Thanks for indulging us and putting them up on Dropbox!


On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 2:30 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> I don’t think anyone would consider them hot. Disturbing perhaps. and 
> sacrilegious. I spotted the “devil” in a Starbucks and knew she was right for 
> the part. The other girl was her friend. They lived together, and both had 
> boyfriends, but their relationship seemed special as well. Nice ladies who 
> were into having some photo fun.
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/9bh37g8mr106fxg/tempteve1.jpg?dl=0
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/do3rtqu0kos2csu/tempteve2.jpg?dl=0
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/w9dp5krhl67w92b/tempteve3.jpg?dl=0
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Re: RE - Missing Exif data


What about when DNG *is* your original data?

On 10/4/2017 15:01, Ken Waller wrote:

Just got a Tim Grey Newsletter in which he explains that while using the Adobe 
DNG converter will retain the original pixel data from the original capture, 
there are some 'private' metadata from the camera that may be lost. That data 
would generally relate to unique features of a specific camera model which 
would require software from the camera manufacturer to fully display.

Seems to answer a question I posted awhile back about possibly missing
Exif data relating to my K3 regarding shutter state (time delay, bracketing 
etc).

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Re: Anybody use On1 for photo processing?


I don't use it, but I went to a workshop once where they were promoting it & 
ever since they've been SPAMMING the hell out of me.

On 10/3/2017 21:04, Larry Colen wrote:

A friend has been pointing me at it.  It seems like it might be a viable 
replacement for lightroom.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6QWJaqwdNU





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Re: OT fun motorhead group on facebook


I don't have a fakebook account, so it won't let me see it.

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Somewhere along the line I ended up on the
Innovative, Banned, and Unique racing cars & Trucks
group on facebook.  I think there are a few folks on this list who would 
appreciate it, and Paul might even have some fun photos of his own to share.

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Re: QUESTION

I had problems "upgrading" to Win10 *period*; bad enough I will NEVER use it.

Three computers...

Laptop nagged & nagged & nagged & nagged & nagged ... until I finally gave in.
Only then did the Windows 10 upgrade application tell me the computer couldn't be upgraded
because the manufacturer (Toshiba) did not provide compatible video drivers (nVidia).

On this computer it bogged down like shit. Plus it loaded a Metric Ton of
*SHITWARE* and every time I tried to launch the applications I use, Windows 10
would launch one of its built in *SHITWARE* applications instead and try to
force me to switch to it. And I couldn't make that go away. Even though I
declined to use their application, the next time I wanted to use my application
I would have to go through the same aggravation all over again.

I spent 96+ hours trying to install Windows10 on my Photoshop computer (Intel
I7-2600k quad core CPU, Samsung 256GB SSD and 32GB RAM) - although most of that
time was spent doing other things while I waited on the installation. When it
finally booted to the desktop on the second installation attempt, I had so much
lag that when I moved the mouse it would be several seconds before the pointer
on the screen moved. Once I finally managed to get a pointer hovering over an
icon and click it, the delay was long enough I could go into the kitchen for
coffee and still make it back before the window opened. I know this sounds like
exaggeration; it's NOT.

Plus many of the windows had already timed out by the time they did open so
they only flashed open for a second before closing again.

I'll use Windoze7 for as long as I can. If I ever do reach the point where I can't
I'll learn Linux or buy a f&^%$~g Mac ... or maybe find myself a high-rise
apartment where I can throw the damn thing off the balcony a'la

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=licwOgzBqo0

I know this probably doesn't help, but I hope you'll have better results.

On 10/5/2017 03:56, Alan C wrote:

Have you had problems after upgrading to Win 10 build 15063? (10.0.15063). My
computer is like a donkey. Elements Editor no longer works (also on my wife's
computer). Have tried the preferences fix without success. Have 4gig RAM - is that
enough? It was fine in Win 7 & the prev. version of Win 10.

Alan C

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temptation of eve on dropbox

I don’t think anyone would consider them hot. Disturbing perhaps. and 
sacrilegious. I spotted the “devil” in a Starbucks and knew she was right for 
the part. The other girl was her friend. They lived together, and both had 
boyfriends, but their relationship seemed special as well. Nice ladies who were 
into having some photo fun.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9bh37g8mr106fxg/tempteve1.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/do3rtqu0kos2csu/tempteve2.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/w9dp5krhl67w92b/tempteve3.jpg?dl=0
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Re: PESOs: The Temptation of Eve I and II

I have removed them. I’ll post them in dropbox.
> On Oct 5, 2017, at 2:14 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> 
> They are just too hot.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
>> 
>> I've got "404" error, - no page.
>> I even resurrected my login on photo.net, - but it looks like Paul has
>> removed the photos already... :-(
>> 
>> Igor
>> 
>> 
>> ann sanfedele Wed, 04 Oct 2017 18:04:21 -0700 wrote:
>> 
>> LOL - I had to sign in to my olde photo.net account to view.. big sign came
>> up that said NSFW
>> 
>> 
>> ann
>> 
>> On 10/4/2017 7:54 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> 
>>Okay, here are the two main images from that shoot. It was done for a
>> stock
>>house that wanted kinky stuff. But we had some fun with it. Shot with my
>> ist d
>>and the SMC Pentax 85/1.8. Studio strobes firing into umbrellas. I like
>> the
>>second one and had considered posting it for the nakedness gallery. If
>> you
>>choose to complain, please address all comments to Doug.:-)
>> 
>>https://www.photo.net/photo/18428110/The-Temptation-of-Eve-I
>> 
>>https://www.photo.net/photo/18428111/The-Temptation-of-Eve-II
>> 
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RE - Missing Exif data

2017-10-05 Thread Igor PDML-StR



Ken,
Yes, as I've written in response to your original message, - "Makernote" 
field needs to be understood by the software that works with the image.
Typically, good software, even if it doesn't understand that field, 
should leave those fields in EXIF intact, just carrying it over when 
saving a new or edited file. This way you can still open that file in a 
different software that understands that field (for the required camera).


I don't know how Adobe DNG converter behaves in this respect.

My guess would be if you see, e.g. which lens was used in the converted 
file, the makernote field has been copied. (But it is possible that
it gets written to yet another field in a clear-text format. -- Did 
someone mention that earlier?)



If you are interested to find out what is in the original file, and which 
information is carried over, I'd recommend using e.g. ExifTool:

https://www.scantips.com/lights/exif.html , looking at the file
before and after DNG conversion.


Igor


Ken Waller Wed, 04 Oct 2017 12:02:09 -0700 wrote:

Just got a Tim Grey Newsletter in which he explains that while using the 
Adobe DNG converter will retain the original pixel data from the original 
capture, there are some 'private' metadata from the camera that may be 
lost. That data would generally relate to unique features of a specific 
camera model which would require software from the camera manufacturer to 
fully display.



Seems to answer a question I posted awhile back about possibly missing
Exif data relating to my K3 regarding shutter state (time delay,
bracketing etc).



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Re: PESOs: The Temptation of Eve I and II

2017-10-05 Thread Bruce Walker

They are just too hot.


On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
>
> I've got "404" error, - no page.
> I even resurrected my login on photo.net, - but it looks like Paul has
> removed the photos already... :-(
>
> Igor
>
>
> ann sanfedele Wed, 04 Oct 2017 18:04:21 -0700 wrote:
>
> LOL - I had to sign in to my olde photo.net account to view.. big sign came
> up that said NSFW
>
>
> ann
>
> On 10/4/2017 7:54 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>
> Okay, here are the two main images from that shoot. It was done for a
> stock
> house that wanted kinky stuff. But we had some fun with it. Shot with my
> ist d
> and the SMC Pentax 85/1.8. Studio strobes firing into umbrellas. I like
> the
> second one and had considered posting it for the nakedness gallery. If
> you
> choose to complain, please address all comments to Doug.:-)
>
> https://www.photo.net/photo/18428110/The-Temptation-of-Eve-I
>
> https://www.photo.net/photo/18428111/The-Temptation-of-Eve-II
>
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Re: PESOs: The Temptation of Eve I and II

2017-10-05 Thread Igor PDML-StR



I've got "404" error, - no page.
I even resurrected my login on photo.net, - but it looks like Paul has 
removed the photos already... :-(


Igor


ann sanfedele Wed, 04 Oct 2017 18:04:21 -0700 wrote:

LOL - I had to sign in to my olde photo.net account to view.. big sign 
came up that said NSFW



ann

On 10/4/2017 7:54 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Okay, here are the two main images from that shoot. It was done for a 
stock
house that wanted kinky stuff. But we had some fun with it. Shot with 
my ist d
and the SMC Pentax 85/1.8. Studio strobes firing into umbrellas. I 
like the
second one and had considered posting it for the nakedness gallery. If 
you

choose to complain, please address all comments to Doug.:-)

https://www.photo.net/photo/18428110/The-Temptation-of-Eve-I

https://www.photo.net/photo/18428111/The-Temptation-of-Eve-II



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Re: QUESTION

2017-10-05 Thread John Francis

On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 09:56:39AM +0200, Alan C wrote:
> Have you had problems after upgrading to Win 10 build 15063? (10.0.15063).
> My computer is like a donkey. Elements Editor no longer works (also on my
> wife's computer). Have tried the preferences fix without success. Have 4gig
> RAM - is that enough? It was fine in Win 7 & the prev. version of Win 10.
> 
> Alan C

I haven't seen any problems on my primary computer or my smaller notebook.
While the primary has 16GB, the notebook only has 4GB. I've got Elements 15
on the primary machine, and that works fine (I updated to 15 because the
earlier version I had had problems with a setup with 4K displays, especially
with only having 4K resolution on one of the two displays).  I seem to have
a habit of only updating every four versions - I've had 3, 7, 11 and now 15.

The one thing I did note is that build 15063 seems to have turned back on
the "share updates across machines on the local network" misfeature (either
that or I forgot to turn it off when I had to reinstall Windows after the
machine was repaired). That can put quite a load on the sytem.

Other than that, the first thing I'd suggest would be to use Task Manager
to see what the limiting resource is.

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Re: Windows tech knowledge guys - regarding Adobe Flash HELP

2017-10-05 Thread Bruce Walker

Flash is dead. It's in legacy mode and will disappear completely soon
enough. It generally doesn't run at all on mobile devices, and web
browsers have it disabled by default, a pretty strong hint to avoid
using it.

Cue the MP parrot thread ...


On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 12:49 PM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> I'm not a big fan of flash, and Adobe tried, really tried, to turn it into a
> web development language, but it's still a solution in search of a problem.
>
>
>
> On 10/5/2017 12:15 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
>>
>> eric I did that -- it said i needed tha latest version and didn't have
>> it..
>> I never use explorer
>>
>> but since pj sent a link.. I'll try
>>
>> On 10/5/2017 11:48 AM, Eric Featherstone wrote:
>>>
>>> It worked for me in chrome and firefox, but in internet explorer the
>>> result page didn't work - just blank white.
>>>
>>> try your spectrum website speed test with chrome perhaps? That should
>>> should already have flash built-in.
>>>
>>> Eric.
>>>
>>> On 5 October 2017 at 16:34, ann sanfedele  wrote:

 coldn't get  that speed test to work for me, Eric
 ann

> On 10/5/2017 8:42 AM, Eric Featherstone wrote:
>
>> On 5 October 2017 at 14:25, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>>>
>>> I thought I had adobe flash but apparently not - I tried to do a
>>> speed
>>> test
>>> on Spectrum web site and it says it needs
>>> Adobe Flash.. yesterday it gave me a plug in to click on.. today I
>>> get
>>> nada.
>>
>> The speed tester at : http://beta.speedtest.net/
>> doesn't require flash, so you should be good to go.
>> (Their legacy speedtest page does require flash, so don't bother with
>> that.)
>>
>>
>>> I have windoze 7 pro - where is it safe to gather and install it to
>>> use
>>> on
>>> either or both Firefox and chrome?
>>
>> FWIW Chrome has flash built in, and when chrome auto-updates it also
>> updates its version of flash. Personally I'm reluctant to install
>> flash other than as part of chrome for that reason.
>>
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Re: Windows tech knowledge guys - regarding Adobe Flash HELP

I'm not a big fan of flash, and Adobe tried, really tried, to turn it 
into a web development language, but it's still a solution in search of 
a problem.



On 10/5/2017 12:15 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
eric I did that -- it said i needed tha latest version and didn't have 
it..

I never use explorer

but since pj sent a link.. I'll try

On 10/5/2017 11:48 AM, Eric Featherstone wrote:

It worked for me in chrome and firefox, but in internet explorer the
result page didn't work - just blank white.

try your spectrum website speed test with chrome perhaps? That should
should already have flash built-in.

Eric.

On 5 October 2017 at 16:34, ann sanfedele  wrote:

coldn't get  that speed test to work for me, Eric
ann


On 10/5/2017 8:42 AM, Eric Featherstone wrote:


On 5 October 2017 at 14:25, ann sanfedele  wrote:
I thought I had adobe flash but apparently not - I tried to do a 
speed

test
on Spectrum web site and it says it needs
Adobe Flash.. yesterday it gave me a plug in to click on.. today 
I get

nada.

The speed tester at : http://beta.speedtest.net/
doesn't require flash, so you should be good to go.
(Their legacy speedtest page does require flash, so don't bother with
that.)


I have windoze 7 pro - where is it safe to gather and install it 
to use

on
either or both Firefox and chrome?

FWIW Chrome has flash built in, and when chrome auto-updates it also
updates its version of flash. Personally I'm reluctant to install
flash other than as part of chrome for that reason.








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Re: Peso- Peregrin Falcon


Yeah, I see it. Not censor dust, common to pick up such spots when shooting
into the air. Tiny distant birds constantly cause such spots.
Thanks for mentioning it, however. I should have noticed and eliminated it.
Thanks, Dan.

J

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Subject: Re: Peso- Peregrin Falcon

Nice bird portrait, with an impressive sky background.

There appears to be a spot of some sort in the lower right or the image;
perhaps dust on the sensor?


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On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:

>
>
> Sacramento Refuse yesterday AM.
> A bit of a different look than I would have expected, but my Field Guide
> insists.
> Ann will, hopefully agree, and not have to correct me this time. HA!
> Well out from me and pulled up in PS as much as I dare.
>
> C?
>
> Thanks!!
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Re: Windows tech knowledge guys - regarding Adobe Flash HELP

2017-10-05 Thread Eric Featherstone

It might be a setting in chrome. Flash can be blocked by default,
allowed by default, blocked or allowed per website etc.

clicking this link (when using the chrome web browser) should take you
to chrome's setting for flash.

chrome://settings/content/flash

But pj's link might also solve it for you.

Eric.


On 5 October 2017 at 17:15, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> eric I did that -- it said i needed tha latest version and didn't have it..
> I never use explorer
>
> but since pj sent a link.. I'll try
>
>
> On 10/5/2017 11:48 AM, Eric Featherstone wrote:
>>
>> It worked for me in chrome and firefox, but in internet explorer the
>> result page didn't work - just blank white.
>>
>> try your spectrum website speed test with chrome perhaps? That should
>> should already have flash built-in.
>>
>> Eric.

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eric I did that -- it said i needed tha latest version and didn't have it..
I never use explorer

but since pj sent a link.. I'll try

On 10/5/2017 11:48 AM, Eric Featherstone wrote:

It worked for me in chrome and firefox, but in internet explorer the
result page didn't work - just blank white.

try your spectrum website speed test with chrome perhaps? That should
should already have flash built-in.

Eric.

On 5 October 2017 at 16:34, ann sanfedele  wrote:

coldn't get  that speed test to work for me, Eric
ann


On 10/5/2017 8:42 AM, Eric Featherstone wrote:


On 5 October 2017 at 14:25, ann sanfedele  wrote:

I thought I had adobe flash but apparently not - I tried to do a speed
test
on Spectrum web site and it says it needs
Adobe Flash.. yesterday it gave me a plug in to click on.. today I get
nada.

The speed tester at : http://beta.speedtest.net/
doesn't require flash, so you should be good to go.
(Their legacy speedtest page does require flash, so don't bother with
that.)



I have windoze 7 pro - where is it safe to gather and install it to use
on
either or both Firefox and chrome?

FWIW Chrome has flash built in, and when chrome auto-updates it also
updates its version of flash. Personally I'm reluctant to install
flash other than as part of chrome for that reason.








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Re: Windows tech knowledge guys - regarding Adobe Flash HELP

With Firefox, after the Flash plug-in is installed you have the option 
of only using it on a web site when you specifically authorize it.


-p


On 10/5/2017 10:59 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

Ann,

   You can download Flash straight from Adobe, here's a link to what I 
think is the latest version.


https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/?source=1432


On 10/5/2017 9:25 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
I thought I had adobe flash but apparently not - I tried to do a 
speed test on Spectrum web site and it says it needs
Adobe Flash.. yesterday it gave me a plug in to click on.. today I 
get nada.



I have windoze 7 pro - where is it safe to gather and install it to 
use on either or both Firefox and chrome?


T I A

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Ann,

   You can download Flash straight from Adobe, here's a link to what I 
think is the latest version.


https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/?source=1432


On 10/5/2017 9:25 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
I thought I had adobe flash but apparently not - I tried to do a speed 
test on Spectrum web site and it says it needs
Adobe Flash.. yesterday it gave me a plug in to click on.. today I get 
nada.



I have windoze 7 pro - where is it safe to gather and install it to 
use on either or both Firefox and chrome?


T I A

ann





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Re: Windows tech knowledge guys - regarding Adobe Flash HELP

2017-10-05 Thread Eric Featherstone

It worked for me in chrome and firefox, but in internet explorer the
result page didn't work - just blank white.

try your spectrum website speed test with chrome perhaps? That should
should already have flash built-in.

Eric.

On 5 October 2017 at 16:34, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> coldn't get  that speed test to work for me, Eric
> ann
>
>> On 10/5/2017 8:42 AM, Eric Featherstone wrote:
>>
>>> On 5 October 2017 at 14:25, ann sanfedele  wrote:

 I thought I had adobe flash but apparently not - I tried to do a speed
 test
 on Spectrum web site and it says it needs
 Adobe Flash.. yesterday it gave me a plug in to click on.. today I get
 nada.
>>>
>>> The speed tester at : http://beta.speedtest.net/
>>> doesn't require flash, so you should be good to go.
>>> (Their legacy speedtest page does require flash, so don't bother with
>>> that.)
>>>
>>>
 I have windoze 7 pro - where is it safe to gather and install it to use
 on
 either or both Firefox and chrome?
>>>
>>> FWIW Chrome has flash built in, and when chrome auto-updates it also
>>> updates its version of flash. Personally I'm reluctant to install
>>> flash other than as part of chrome for that reason.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Windows tech knowledge guys - regarding Adobe Flash HELP

I'm getting a new modem today - the techie from Spectrum (who was a time 
warner guy who kept his job) said
my modem was probably partly to blame from problems recently that sounds 
like what you are having , Paul..
hmmm..  a couple of days ago my downlaod speed went down to1.8 but later 
it was back up to 118,


have been having trouble with email.. which includes, but not limited 
to, getting an error message after I've written something that says 
something is not available and not only doesn't upload but doesnt save 
what I wrote in drafts

in thunderbird.  ugh.

I don't have wi-fi at all... , strictly cable  -

coldn't get  that speed test to work for me, Eric
ann

On 10/5/2017 10:43 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote:
Thanks for that link, Eric.  Do you (or anyone else) know of a link 
that will measure/record signal strength in dB?  Spectrum in our area 
just gave me an upgrade to 100mb down and 10mb up, but I continue to 
have an issue with signal strength that causes the modem to completely 
drop both phone and internet.  Spectrum offers the fastest speed, but 
one needs to have some reliability as well.


-p

On 10/5/2017 8:42 AM, Eric Featherstone wrote:


On 5 October 2017 at 14:25, ann sanfedele  wrote:
I thought I had adobe flash but apparently not - I tried to do a 
speed test

on Spectrum web site and it says it needs
Adobe Flash.. yesterday it gave me a plug in to click on.. today I 
get nada.

The speed tester at : http://beta.speedtest.net/
doesn't require flash, so you should be good to go.
(Their legacy speedtest page does require flash, so don't bother with 
that.)



I have windoze 7 pro - where is it safe to gather and install it to 
use on

either or both Firefox and chrome?

FWIW Chrome has flash built in, and when chrome auto-updates it also
updates its version of flash. Personally I'm reluctant to install
flash other than as part of chrome for that reason.










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Re: Peso- Peregrin Falcon

Thanks, Paul! My pleasure. HA!
J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 5, 2017, at 7:45 AM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:
> 
> Once again you have given us the bird.  Well done.
> 
> -p
> 
> 
>> On 10/5/2017 8:46 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> 
>> Sacramento Refuse yesterday AM.
>> A bit of a different look than I would have expected, but my Field Guide 
>> insists.
>> Ann will, hopefully agree, and not have to correct me this time. HA!
>> Well out from me and pulled up in PS as much as I dare.
>> 
>> C?
>> 
>> Thanks!!
>> 
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>> 
>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18428260
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Re: Peso- Peregrin Falcon


Once again you have given us the bird.  Well done.

-p


On 10/5/2017 8:46 AM, Jack Davis wrote:


Sacramento Refuse yesterday AM.
A bit of a different look than I would have expected, but my Field Guide 
insists.
Ann will, hopefully agree, and not have to correct me this time. HA!
Well out from me and pulled up in PS as much as I dare.

C?

Thanks!!

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Re: Windows tech knowledge guys - regarding Adobe Flash HELP

Thanks for that link, Eric.  Do you (or anyone else) know of a link that 
will measure/record signal strength in dB?  Spectrum in our area just 
gave me an upgrade to 100mb down and 10mb up, but I continue to have an 
issue with signal strength that causes the modem to completely drop both 
phone and internet.  Spectrum offers the fastest speed, but one needs to 
have some reliability as well.


-p

On 10/5/2017 8:42 AM, Eric Featherstone wrote:


On 5 October 2017 at 14:25, ann sanfedele  wrote:

I thought I had adobe flash but apparently not - I tried to do a speed test
on Spectrum web site and it says it needs
Adobe Flash.. yesterday it gave me a plug in to click on.. today I get nada.

The speed tester at : http://beta.speedtest.net/
doesn't require flash, so you should be good to go.
(Their legacy speedtest page does require flash, so don't bother with that.)



I have windoze 7 pro - where is it safe to gather and install it to use on
either or both Firefox and chrome?

FWIW Chrome has flash built in, and when chrome auto-updates it also
updates its version of flash. Personally I'm reluctant to install
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Re: Peso- Peregrin Falcon

2017-10-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola

Nice bird portrait, with an impressive sky background.

There appears to be a spot of some sort in the lower right or the image;
perhaps dust on the sensor?


Dan Matyola
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On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:

>
>
> Sacramento Refuse yesterday AM.
> A bit of a different look than I would have expected, but my Field Guide
> insists.
> Ann will, hopefully agree, and not have to correct me this time. HA!
> Well out from me and pulled up in PS as much as I dare.
>
> C?
>
> Thanks!!
>
> J
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> https://www.photo.net/photo/18428260
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Peso- Peregrin Falcon



Sacramento Refuse yesterday AM.
A bit of a different look than I would have expected, but my Field Guide 
insists.
Ann will, hopefully agree, and not have to correct me this time. HA!
Well out from me and pulled up in PS as much as I dare.

C?

Thanks!!

J

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Re: Windows tech knowledge guys - regarding Adobe Flash HELP

2017-10-05 Thread Eric Featherstone

On 5 October 2017 at 14:25, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> I thought I had adobe flash but apparently not - I tried to do a speed test
> on Spectrum web site and it says it needs
> Adobe Flash.. yesterday it gave me a plug in to click on.. today I get nada.

The speed tester at : http://beta.speedtest.net/
doesn't require flash, so you should be good to go.
(Their legacy speedtest page does require flash, so don't bother with that.)

> I have windoze 7 pro - where is it safe to gather and install it to use on
> either or both Firefox and chrome?

FWIW Chrome has flash built in, and when chrome auto-updates it also
updates its version of flash. Personally I'm reluctant to install
flash other than as part of chrome for that reason.

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Re: Windows tech knowledge guys - regarding Adobe Flash HELP

2017-10-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola

Adobe Flash is a virus.

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On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 9:25 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

> I thought I had adobe flash but apparently not - I tried to do a speed
> test on Spectrum web site and it says it needs
> Adobe Flash.. yesterday it gave me a plug in to click on.. today I get
> nada.
>
>
> I have windoze 7 pro - where is it safe to gather and install it to use on
> either or both Firefox and chrome?
>
> T I A
>
> ann
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Windows tech knowledge guys - regarding Adobe Flash HELP

I thought I had adobe flash but apparently not - I tried to do a speed 
test on Spectrum web site and it says it needs

Adobe Flash.. yesterday it gave me a plug in to click on.. today I get nada.


I have windoze 7 pro - where is it safe to gather and install it to use 
on either or both Firefox and chrome?


T I A

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Re: QUESTION

Rule number one.  It doesn't matter what OS you're using, a major 
upgrade is going to break something that you depend on.  If you're 
lucky, a working replacement will be available, if you're really really 
lucky, the existing software can be patched, and if you're unlucky the 
software will be discontinued and the user base will be so small that no 
one will have cared that it doesn't work.


Personally I wont upgrade to Win10 until I absolutely have to. I lost 
three tools on the move from XP to Win7 that have no direct replacements 
and couldn't be coerced into working properly no matter what I did.


Strangely Pixmantec's Raw Shooter Essentials, still runs on Win7 where 
newer software does not.  I really miss using that too and I have it 
installed, but even Pentax Digital Camera Utility 4.x has a better UI 
these days.


That said, 4gig of ram is pretty low for running photo editing software 
with a modern OS.   I'm doing it but I'm also two iterations of the OS 
back and still editing using CS2.  Which by the way is very fast on new 
hardware and Win7.


However I suspect that some legacy dll that was supplied with the 
original Win10 installation was deleted replaced or more maddeningly 
installed in a directory that comes before the one you need to use on 
the program search path, if Elements still uses the program search path.



On 10/5/2017 3:56 AM, Alan C wrote:
Have you had problems after upgrading to Win 10 build 15063? 
(10.0.15063). My computer is like a donkey. Elements Editor no longer 
works (also on my wife's computer). Have tried the preferences fix 
without success. Have 4gig RAM - is that enough? It was fine in Win 7 
& the prev. version of Win 10.


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Re: PESOs: The Temptation of Eve I and II

Now I have to create an account on Photo.net.  I don't want to create an 
account on Photo.net.  I have one already, but I cannot access it 
because it's tied to an e-mail I haven't had for years, I can't remember 
the user name, password, security word, if they require a security word, 
nor did I ever post anything to the damned account while I had it.  What 
torques me off more than anything is these prissy sites that protect 
your morals when there are places on the internet what will show the 
most horrific acts by just jumping to them.


Personally I don't think it's about protecting anyone's sensibilities, 
it's just a way to up their user stats.



On 10/4/2017 7:54 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Okay, here are the two main images from that shoot. It was done for a stock 
house that wanted kinky stuff. But we had some fun with it. Shot with my ist d 
and the SMC Pentax 85/1.8. Studio strobes firing into umbrellas. I like the 
second one and had considered posting it for the nakedness gallery. If you 
choose to complain, please address all comments to Doug.:-)

https://www.photo.net/photo/18428110/The-Temptation-of-Eve-I

https://www.photo.net/photo/18428111/The-Temptation-of-Eve-II


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Re: Autumn Shades