Re: new FFdslr from Pentax?

2018-11-25 Thread J.C. O'Connell
On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 23:57:32 -0500, J.C. O'Connell   
wrote:



wrll its been over twp years since its intro.
is there any rumors of a num model to replace
the K-1?



make that NEW model.

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new FFdslr from Pentax?

2018-11-25 Thread J.C. O'Connell

wrll its been over twp years since its intro.
is there any rumors of a num model to replace
the K-1?


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Re: GESO: namik glacier trek

2018-11-25 Thread Alan C
That was some trip. A different type of bird up there! Very colourful 
clothing. Amazing how the frost transforms the campsite image - it 
almost looks burnt. You must be pretty fit to slog it up the 14000'.


Alan C

On 25-Nov-18 07:21 PM, Subash Jeyan wrote:

i've just done a 8-day trek in the himalayas. the trail started from a
village called gogina and ended at bala village, roughly covering 60 km
and going up to an altitude of about 14,000 ft.

a collection of photographs of people i met and landscapes that i saw:

https://trekkingthehimalayas.wordpress.com/2018/11/25/namik-glacier/


comments appreciated, subash




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Re: A camera so hip it almost hurts

2018-11-25 Thread Larry Colen



Mark Roberts wrote on 11/25/18 7:29 PM:

Larry Colen wrote:


Bruce Walker wrote on 11/25/18 4:52 AM:

It pains me to say this, but that's actually kind of appealing. :-)

Does that make me, tragically, hip?


There are many things you need to worry about, being hip is none of them.


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Re: A camera so hip it almost hurts

2018-11-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Larry Colen wrote:

>Bruce Walker wrote on 11/25/18 4:52 AM:
>> It pains me to say this, but that's actually kind of appealing. :-)
>> 
>> Does that make me, tragically, hip?
>
>There are many things you need to worry about, being hip is none of them.

"I'm so hip I have trouble seeing over my pelvis" - Zaphod Beeblebrox
 
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Re[2]: A camera so hip it almost hurts

2018-11-25 Thread Pete McIntosh

MARK! :-)

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Bruce Walker wrote on 11/25/18 4:52 AM:

It pains me to say this, but that's actually kind of appealing. :-)

Does that make me, tragically, hip?


There are many things you need to worry about, being hip is none of them.


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Re: A camera so hip it almost hurts

2018-11-25 Thread Larry Colen



Bruce Walker wrote on 11/25/18 4:52 AM:

It pains me to say this, but that's actually kind of appealing. :-)

Does that make me, tragically, hip?


There are many things you need to worry about, being hip is none of them.


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Re: A camera so hip it almost hurts

2018-11-25 Thread William Robb
On Sun, Nov 25, 2018, 6:53 AM Bruce Walker  It pains me to say this, but that's actually kind of appealing. :-)
>
> Does that make me, tragically, hip?
>
No, but it's hip to be square.

>
>
> On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 5:23 AM Larry Colen  wrote:
> >
> > Remember the kickstarter for the camera that uses leica mount lenses
> > someone posted a link to a while back?  Here's one that is even hipper.
> >
> >
> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ondu-/ondu-iii-pinhole-cameras-perfect-shutter-snap-on-f?ref=project_link
> >
> .
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Re: OT: Is Paris Burning - Don't read this, Ken!

2018-11-25 Thread Bob W-PDML
Must be why everyone's been growing enormous bushy beards these last few years.

> On 25 Nov 2018, at 21:45, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> There may be a new Crimean War:
> https://news.sky.com/story/russia-fires-at-ukraine-ships-in-black-sea-11563775
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 1:21 PM Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>> 
>> I agree. The Guardian is my favourite paper, but I didn't suggest it
>> because it is very left-leaning so could (!! By some stretch of the
>> imagination!!) be accused of being like the Express and Mail in its bias.
>> Whereas the left and the right both accuse the BBC of other-wing bias,
>> which is probably a clue that they're positioned in about the correct place.
>> 
 On 25 Nov 2018, at 18:14, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
 
 Am 25.11.18 um 17:45 schrieb Bob W-PDML:
 You will certainly get a twisted view if you rely for your information
>> on hate-sheets like the Express and Mail - the BBC is a much more reliable
>> and balanced source, although I have to say it's been dumbing down a lot
>> recently.
>>> 
>>> I'd like to add the Guardian to the list. It has a series quite
>> appropriately called "The Long Read". You won't find better journalism than
>> this.
>>> 
>>> Try this one for size:
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/sep/07/the-real-goldfinger-the-london-banker-who-broke-the-world
>>> 
>>> Ralf
>>> 
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Re: OT: Is Paris Burning - Don't read this, Ken!

2018-11-25 Thread Bob W-PDML
I don't know, I've never read it. 

However for a few years before he died I was friends with one of their 
prominent former-journalists, a great francophile, independent-minded, but 
quite an establishment figure, who voted Liberal. He had very prominent 
political friends of all parties in several countries. He listened to what 
people had to say, respected a well-argued position even when he profoundly 
disagreed with it, and was never afraid to speak his mind. You could disagree 
very strongly with him, but always remain on good personal terms. 

Respect for contrary opinions, and the ability to argue one's case, are what we 
seem to be so short of these days.

> On 25 Nov 2018, at 21:42, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> What bias do you think The Economist shows?
> 
> I enjoy their articles and editorials very much.
> 
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 1:21 PM Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>> 
>> I agree. The Guardian is my favourite paper, but I didn't suggest it
>> because it is very left-leaning so could (!! By some stretch of the
>> imagination!!) be accused of being like the Express and Mail in its bias.
>> Whereas the left and the right both accuse the BBC of other-wing bias,
>> which is probably a clue that they're positioned in about the correct place.
>> 
 On 25 Nov 2018, at 18:14, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
 
 Am 25.11.18 um 17:45 schrieb Bob W-PDML:
 You will certainly get a twisted view if you rely for your information
>> on hate-sheets like the Express and Mail - the BBC is a much more reliable
>> and balanced source, although I have to say it's been dumbing down a lot
>> recently.
>>> 
>>> I'd like to add the Guardian to the list. It has a series quite
>> appropriately called "The Long Read". You won't find better journalism than
>> this.
>>> 
>>> Try this one for size:
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/sep/07/the-real-goldfinger-the-london-banker-who-broke-the-world
>>> 
>>> 

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Re: OT: Is Paris Burning - Don't read this, Ken!

2018-11-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
There may be a new Crimean War:
https://news.sky.com/story/russia-fires-at-ukraine-ships-in-black-sea-11563775
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On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 1:21 PM Bob W-PDML  wrote:

> I agree. The Guardian is my favourite paper, but I didn't suggest it
> because it is very left-leaning so could (!! By some stretch of the
> imagination!!) be accused of being like the Express and Mail in its bias.
> Whereas the left and the right both accuse the BBC of other-wing bias,
> which is probably a clue that they're positioned in about the correct place.
>
> > On 25 Nov 2018, at 18:14, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> >
> >> Am 25.11.18 um 17:45 schrieb Bob W-PDML:
> >> You will certainly get a twisted view if you rely for your information
> on hate-sheets like the Express and Mail - the BBC is a much more reliable
> and balanced source, although I have to say it's been dumbing down a lot
> recently.
> >
> > I'd like to add the Guardian to the list. It has a series quite
> appropriately called "The Long Read". You won't find better journalism than
> this.
> >
> > Try this one for size:
> >
> >
> https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/sep/07/the-real-goldfinger-the-london-banker-who-broke-the-world
> >
> > Ralf
> >
> > --
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Re: OT: Is Paris Burning - Don't read this, Ken!

2018-11-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
What bias do you think The Economist shows?

I enjoy their articles and editorials very much.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 1:21 PM Bob W-PDML  wrote:

> I agree. The Guardian is my favourite paper, but I didn't suggest it
> because it is very left-leaning so could (!! By some stretch of the
> imagination!!) be accused of being like the Express and Mail in its bias.
> Whereas the left and the right both accuse the BBC of other-wing bias,
> which is probably a clue that they're positioned in about the correct place.
>
> > On 25 Nov 2018, at 18:14, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> >
> >> Am 25.11.18 um 17:45 schrieb Bob W-PDML:
> >> You will certainly get a twisted view if you rely for your information
> on hate-sheets like the Express and Mail - the BBC is a much more reliable
> and balanced source, although I have to say it's been dumbing down a lot
> recently.
> >
> > I'd like to add the Guardian to the list. It has a series quite
> appropriately called "The Long Read". You won't find better journalism than
> this.
> >
> > Try this one for size:
> >
> >
> https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/sep/07/the-real-goldfinger-the-london-banker-who-broke-the-world
> >
> > Ralf
> >
> > --
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Peso

2018-11-25 Thread Jack Davis


Title: Snow Goose.


Shot at Colusa Federal Refuge this AM.


150-450/K3II


C?


Thanks!


Jack


https://www.photo.net/photo/18508501


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Re: GESO: namik glacier trek

2018-11-25 Thread Henk Terhell
Subash, great set of pictures. Most interesting to see for people (like 
me) living in another part of the planet.


Henk

Op 2018-11-25 om 18:21 schreef Subash Jeyan:

i've just done a 8-day trek in the himalayas. the trail started from a
village called gogina and ended at bala village, roughly covering 60 km
and going up to an altitude of about 14,000 ft.

a collection of photographs of people i met and landscapes that i saw:

https://trekkingthehimalayas.wordpress.com/2018/11/25/namik-glacier/


comments appreciated, subash




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Re: OT - heads-up: good deal on a budget IPS monitor

2018-11-25 Thread P. J. Alling
Usually not a lower quality, it's much more insidious than that. It will 
be exactly the same product except the model number will be a tiny bit 
different.  Thus when they offer to meet their competitors price, they 
can point to the model number and say, "We don't have honor that, 
because it's not the same model..." That's not to condemn Walmart 
exactly, Best Buy is more likely to actually do that, but they both 
often have their own model numbers for the same item usually with WA or 
BB appended to the end.  In this case since they're both advertising the 
same model number and have exactly the same price, I doubt that there's 
any difference between the items at all.



On 11/18/2018 10:16 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Sorry for being noisy:
At Walmart, new users can save extra $10 by entering the discount code:
ELLEN10.


On Sun, 18 Nov 2018, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Apparently, the same (but may be not exactly the same [*]) monitor is 
on sale at Walmart for the same $119:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Dell-SE2717HR-27-FHD-IPS-LED-Free-Sync-Monitor-1920-x-1080-AMD-75-Hz-with-HDMI-HDMI-and-VGA-port-1-Year-Advanced-Exchange-Warranty/723635364?u1=ea932f94-3c4d-4c63-9cc9-032814152324=623524.1=Es5Ekr9eEBk=17807333093106044065=10=aff 



[*] From what I've heard before, - some manufacturers sell slightly 
different modifications of the product through Walmart. Presumably 
that "special" batch might be of a lower quality.


Actually, Best Buy also has the same sale price ($119):
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-se2717hr-27-ips-led-fhd-freesync-monitor-piano-black/5996200.p?skuId=5996200 




I see that this model is discontinued at B, so, I suspect it might 
be at the end of its life-cycle, and that's the reason for such a 
deep sale.



BTW, if you are curious,  from what I've read  SE2717HR comes with 
HDMI cable, while SE2717H comes with a VGA cable, but the rest is the 
same.


HTH,

Igor


On Sun, 18 Nov 2018, Igor PDML-StR wrote:




Just a heads-up in case someone is looking for an inexpensive IPS 
monitor.

(There have been a few people asking on PDML not that long ago.)
Dell 27" HD LCD MOnitor, SE2717H is on sale for $119 at Office Depot:
https://www.officedepot.com/a/products/196655/Dell-27-HD-LCD-Monitor-SE2717H/?cm_mmc=Affiliates-_-CJ-_-1122587-_-11263938 



I think it's the same prices at OfficeMax, which is essentially the 
same chain now.


This is a budget, but seemingly reasonable quality IPS monitor with 
Full-HD resolution (1920x1080).

(I haven't use it myself.)
Its gamut almost covers SRGB, - you can see a nice review of it
on TomsHardware:
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/dell-se2717h-27-inch-ips-freesync-gaming-monitor,4859-4.html 

According to that review, - one of the positive things is that you 
get an
excellent out-of-box color accuracy. (This might be important for 
those who are not using screen calibrators.)

It does not have too many options for connectors, only HDMI and VGA,
so if your computer uses DisplayPort, you'd need some adapters...

This monitor is in the category of gaming ones. I suspect that it's 
there because it has a relatively fast (for IPS) response time. But 
it seems rather suitable for general needs as well as photography 
(if you don't need wider gamut).



Cheers,

Igor








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Re: OT: Is Paris Burning - Don't read this, Ken!

2018-11-25 Thread Bob W-PDML
I agree. The Guardian is my favourite paper, but I didn't suggest it because it 
is very left-leaning so could (!! By some stretch of the imagination!!) be 
accused of being like the Express and Mail in its bias. Whereas the left and 
the right both accuse the BBC of other-wing bias, which is probably a clue that 
they're positioned in about the correct place.

> On 25 Nov 2018, at 18:14, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
>> Am 25.11.18 um 17:45 schrieb Bob W-PDML:
>> You will certainly get a twisted view if you rely for your information on 
>> hate-sheets like the Express and Mail - the BBC is a much more reliable and 
>> balanced source, although I have to say it's been dumbing down a lot 
>> recently.
> 
> I'd like to add the Guardian to the list. It has a series quite appropriately 
> called "The Long Read". You won't find better journalism than this.
> 
> Try this one for size:
> 
> https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/sep/07/the-real-goldfinger-the-london-banker-who-broke-the-world
> 
> Ralf
> 
> -- 
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Re: GESO: namik glacier trek

2018-11-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
What a wonderful adventure!

That is an interesting gallery with effective and evocative images.

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On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 12:21 PM Subash Jeyan  wrote:

> i've just done a 8-day trek in the himalayas. the trail started from a
> village called gogina and ended at bala village, roughly covering 60 km
> and going up to an altitude of about 14,000 ft.
>
> a collection of photographs of people i met and landscapes that i saw:
>
> https://trekkingthehimalayas.wordpress.com/2018/11/25/namik-glacier/
>
>
> comments appreciated, subash
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Re: OT: Is Paris Burning - Don't read this, Ken!

2018-11-25 Thread Ralf R Radermacher

Am 25.11.18 um 17:45 schrieb Bob W-PDML:

You will certainly get a twisted view if you rely for your information on 
hate-sheets like the Express and Mail - the BBC is a much more reliable and 
balanced source, although I have to say it's been dumbing down a lot recently.


I'd like to add the Guardian to the list. It has a series quite 
appropriately called "The Long Read". You won't find better journalism 
than this.


Try this one for size:

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/sep/07/the-real-goldfinger-the-london-banker-who-broke-the-world

Ralf

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Re: GESO: namik glacier trek

2018-11-25 Thread Bob W-PDML
Wow!

> On 25 Nov 2018, at 17:21, Subash Jeyan  wrote:
> 
> i've just done a 8-day trek in the himalayas. the trail started from a
> village called gogina and ended at bala village, roughly covering 60 km
> and going up to an altitude of about 14,000 ft. 
> 
> a collection of photographs of people i met and landscapes that i saw:
> 
> https://trekkingthehimalayas.wordpress.com/2018/11/25/namik-glacier/
> 
> 
> comments appreciated, subash
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Re: December PUG Countdown

2018-11-25 Thread Bob W-PDML


> On 25 Nov 2018, at 18:04, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> Bob W-PDML wrote:
> 
>> 1.  "What in heaven's name brought you to Casablanca?"
>> 2.  ".My health, I came to Casablanca for the waters."
>> 3.  "The waters? What waters? We're in the desert."
>> 4.  "...I was misinformed."
> 
> "What's your nationality?"
> "I'm a drunkard."
> 

For a real life quote that tops that look to Arletty, one of the great French 
film actors who, during the Occupation, had a German officer as a lover. After 
the Liberation she was put before a tribunal, accused of fraternising with the 
enemy. Her defence: "my heart is French, but my ass is international".


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Re: December PUG Countdown

2018-11-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W-PDML wrote:

>  1.  “What in heaven’s name brought you to Casablanca?”
>  2.  “…My health, I came to Casablanca for the waters.”
>  3.  “The waters? What waters? We’re in the desert.”
>  4.  “...I was misinformed.”

"What's your nationality?"
"I'm a drunkard."
 
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Re: December PUG Countdown

2018-11-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
If you can get an image you like, I'm sure one of us can resize it for you
and submit it on your behalf.

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On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 11:52 AM Stan Halpin 
wrote:

> So, in one of those ironies of life, I am in the Atlantic, about 60 miles
> from Casablanca, surrounded by water, with many Water images safely
> ensconced on my memory cards. And no editor on my iPad to process and
> resize one of the images for PUG submission. Next trip I will try to plan
> ahead.
>
>
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Re: December PUG Countdown

2018-11-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Here's looking at you, Bob.

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On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 12:27 PM Bob W-PDML  wrote:

>   1.  “What in heaven’s name brought you to Casablanca?”
>   2.  “…My health, I came to Casablanca for the waters.”
>   3.  “The waters? What waters? We’re in the desert.”
>   4.  “...I was misinformed.”
>
>
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Re: OT: Is Paris Burning

2018-11-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I picked that particular article about Paris burning for the images --
mostly Getty, I believe.

My principal source of information about Europe (and about the rest of the
World) is the Economist, for which I have both a paper and a digital
subscription.  I also watch the BBC international news on cable TV, and PBS
news, which used to cover most of the world but has become somewhat
narrower of late.

No matter what terrible things you hear or read about politics in the US,
the reality is even worse.  There is no unbiased organ in the media.  Trump
has established a cult of personality.  He was a Clinton Democrat before he
saw the opportunity to effect a hostile takeover of the Republican Party.
The fact that he is no conservative is established by his trade policies
and the soaring budget deficit he has created.  45% of the people believe
anything he says, no matter how ridiculous, and 45% deny everything he
says, no matter if it is true or not.  The other 10% just shake their heads
in frustration.  The opposition is disorganized and leaderless.  The
Democratic Party is becoming radicalized and divorced from reality.  Bernie
Sanders may be lovable, but his policies will never achieve a majority, and
the young radicals have an extremely narrow appeal beyond their base

The only leader who might be able to make a credible challenge in 2020 is
Michael Bloomberg, but there is no way he can gain the Democratic
nomination.  We "Never Trump" Republicans will mount a primary challenge,
behind John Kasich or Jeff Flake or Paul Ryan, but it will be at best a
quixotic adventure.

I admired the stability of the EU under Angela Merkel, but with her
departure and Brexit, it is hard to be optimistic about the future.  Putin
seem to be the only world leader who is effective and backed by popular
support, but he is a madman bent on restoring the "glory" of the old Russia
Empire.  Ivan IV come back to life.


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On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 11:46 AM Bob W-PDML  wrote:

> You probably get a very selective and unrepresentative view of what's
> going on over here, as I'm sure we do of things on your side of the pond.
> You will certainly get a twisted view if you rely for your information on
> hate-sheets like the Express and Mail - the BBC is a much more reliable and
> balanced source, although I have to say it's been dumbing down a lot
> recently.
>
> I often find it difficult to square things I hear from Americans about
> Europe with what I experience over here, and I know from meeting so many of
> you that it is not something intrinsic to American-ness, so I think it's
> probably just a result of your sources of information.
>
> B
>
> > On 25 Nov 2018, at 13:29, Daniel J. Matyola 
> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry, Ken.  Mea Culpa.
> >
> > I posted it here because I am somewhat puzzled and distressed by events
> in
> > Britain and Europe, and this list is the only one to which I belong that
> > has a large number og participants in those communities.  I respect the
> > folks on this list, and was quite interested to hear their views.
> >
> > Dan Matyola
> > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> >
> >
> >> On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 11:13 PM Ken Waller 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dan, I don't need to hear about this on a camera site.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >>> From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
> >>> Sent: Nov 24, 2018 4:18 PM
> >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> >>> Subject: OT: Is Paris Burning
> >>>
> >>> Ha Europe caught the disease of fanaticism and violence from the US?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1049731/France-protests-paris-riots-police-emmanuel-macron-latest-france-news
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: December PUG Countdown

2018-11-25 Thread Bob W-PDML
  1.  “What in heaven’s name brought you to Casablanca?”
  2.  “…My health, I came to Casablanca for the waters.”
  3.  “The waters? What waters? We’re in the desert.”
  4.  “...I was misinformed.”

On 25 Nov 2018, at 16:52, Stan Halpin 
mailto:s...@stans-photography.info>> wrote:

So, in one of those ironies of life, I am in the Atlantic, about 60 miles from 
Casablanca, surrounded by water, with many Water images safely ensconced on my 
memory cards. And no editor on my iPad to process and resize one of the images 
for PUG submission. Next trip I will try to plan ahead.

Meanwhile, one of the Program Speakers aboard our ship is Ian Wright, a British 
Photog who did many early shots of the Beatles and other Rock groups of that 
generation. He is a bit full of himself, but tells a good story.

stan

Sent from my iPad



G'day all

Theme: "Water".

Let's finish the year with a bang!

Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

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GESO: namik glacier trek

2018-11-25 Thread Subash Jeyan
i've just done a 8-day trek in the himalayas. the trail started from a
village called gogina and ended at bala village, roughly covering 60 km
and going up to an altitude of about 14,000 ft. 

a collection of photographs of people i met and landscapes that i saw:

https://trekkingthehimalayas.wordpress.com/2018/11/25/namik-glacier/


comments appreciated, subash

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Re: A camera so hip it almost hurts

2018-11-25 Thread P. J. Alling
This is a camera you can build yourself, with only rudimentary 
woodworking skills.  I think that would be hipper...



On 11/25/2018 7:52 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

It pains me to say this, but that's actually kind of appealing. :-)

Does that make me, tragically, hip?


On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 5:23 AM Larry Colen  wrote:

Remember the kickstarter for the camera that uses leica mount lenses
someone posted a link to a while back?  Here's one that is even hipper.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ondu-/ondu-iii-pinhole-cameras-perfect-shutter-snap-on-f?ref=project_link

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Re: December PUG Countdown

2018-11-25 Thread Stan Halpin
So, in one of those ironies of life, I am in the Atlantic, about 60 miles from 
Casablanca, surrounded by water, with many Water images safely ensconced on my 
memory cards. And no editor on my iPad to process and resize one of the images 
for PUG submission. Next trip I will try to plan ahead. 

Meanwhile, one of the Program Speakers aboard our ship is Ian Wright, a British 
Photog who did many early shots of the Beatles and other Rock groups of that 
generation. He is a bit full of himself, but tells a good story.

stan

Sent from my iPad

>> 
>> 
>>> G'day all
>>> 
>>> Theme: "Water".
>>> 
>>> Let's finish the year with a bang!
>>> 
>>> Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
>>> 
>>> Submission Guidelines here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Brian
>>> 
>>> ++
>>> Brian Walters
>>> Western Sydney Australia
>>> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
>>> https://500px.com/supera1000/galleries


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Re: OT: Is Paris Burning

2018-11-25 Thread Bob W-PDML
You probably get a very selective and unrepresentative view of what's going on 
over here, as I'm sure we do of things on your side of the pond. You will 
certainly get a twisted view if you rely for your information on hate-sheets 
like the Express and Mail - the BBC is a much more reliable and balanced 
source, although I have to say it's been dumbing down a lot recently. 

I often find it difficult to square things I hear from Americans about Europe 
with what I experience over here, and I know from meeting so many of you that 
it is not something intrinsic to American-ness, so I think it's probably just a 
result of your sources of information.

B

> On 25 Nov 2018, at 13:29, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> Sorry, Ken.  Mea Culpa.
> 
> I posted it here because I am somewhat puzzled and distressed by events in
> Britain and Europe, and this list is the only one to which I belong that
> has a large number og participants in those communities.  I respect the
> folks on this list, and was quite interested to hear their views.
> 
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 11:13 PM Ken Waller  wrote:
>> 
>> Dan, I don't need to hear about this on a camera site.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>>> From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
>>> Sent: Nov 24, 2018 4:18 PM
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>>> Subject: OT: Is Paris Burning
>>> 
>>> Ha Europe caught the disease of fanaticism and violence from the US?
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1049731/France-protests-paris-riots-police-emmanuel-macron-latest-france-news
>>> 
>>> 

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Re: OT: Is Paris Burning

2018-11-25 Thread Ralf R Radermacher

Am 25.11.18 um 15:49 schrieb Ralf R Radermacher:

...despite the fact that a few 
dozen guys in white collars cost us more on a single than all immigrants 
together in a year.


That of course should read "cost us more on a single day..."

Ralf

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Re: OT: Is Paris Burning

2018-11-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Ralf.  I appreciate your comments and point of view.

Things could be better, but they certainly could be much worse as well.

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On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 9:50 AM Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:

> Am 25.11.18 um 14:28 schrieb Daniel J. Matyola:
>
> > I posted it here because I am somewhat puzzled and distressed by events
> in
> > Britain and Europe
>
> Nothing wrong with that. We Europeans are just as distressed about what
> is going on in the U.S.
>
> Over here, with globalization and all that, too much money has been
> falling upwards in the last two decades. People are feeling left out and
> the old promise of "be good and work hard and you'll have a better life"
> doesn't hold anymore.
>
> The French have elected two presidents (Macron, Hollande and to a large
> measure also Sarko) who not only didn't deliver but produced the
> opposite of what they promised.
>
> All over Europe, things are in reverse gear. Nationalism is rampant
> again and the political right is gaining strength. Not that these
> right-wing parties were having any solutions. Far from it. But noone
> seems to care. People no longer vote for something but only against this
> or that, preferably against immigrants, despite the fact that a few
> dozen guys in white collars cost us more on a single than all immigrants
> together in a year.
>
> Those are strange times. As my grandmother used to say: You're having it
> too good. There should be another war so you'll see how bad things
> really can get.
>
> Ralf
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Re: OT: Is Paris Burning

2018-11-25 Thread Ralf R Radermacher

Am 25.11.18 um 14:28 schrieb Daniel J. Matyola:


I posted it here because I am somewhat puzzled and distressed by events in
Britain and Europe


Nothing wrong with that. We Europeans are just as distressed about what 
is going on in the U.S.


Over here, with globalization and all that, too much money has been 
falling upwards in the last two decades. People are feeling left out and 
the old promise of "be good and work hard and you'll have a better life" 
doesn't hold anymore.


The French have elected two presidents (Macron, Hollande and to a large 
measure also Sarko) who not only didn't deliver but produced the 
opposite of what they promised.


All over Europe, things are in reverse gear. Nationalism is rampant 
again and the political right is gaining strength. Not that these 
right-wing parties were having any solutions. Far from it. But noone 
seems to care. People no longer vote for something but only against this 
or that, preferably against immigrants, despite the fact that a few 
dozen guys in white collars cost us more on a single than all immigrants 
together in a year.


Those are strange times. As my grandmother used to say: You're having it 
too good. There should be another war so you'll see how bad things 
really can get.


Ralf

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Re: December PUG Countdown

2018-11-25 Thread David J Brooks
Done

Dave
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 7:17 PM Pete McIntosh  wrote:
>
> I'm in too. Actually remembered this time...
>
> Ciao,
>
> Pete Mac in Melbourne
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Brian Walters" 
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: 23/11/2018 08:13:56
> Subject: December PUG Countdown
>
> >G'day all
> >
> >Theme: "Water".
> >
> >Let's finish the year with a bang!
> >
> >Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
> >
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> >
> >Cheers
> >Brian
> >
> >++
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Re: OT: Is Paris Burning

2018-11-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Sorry, Ken.  Mea Culpa.

I posted it here because I am somewhat puzzled and distressed by events in
Britain and Europe, and this list is the only one to which I belong that
has a large number og participants in those communities.  I respect the
folks on this list, and was quite interested to hear their views.

Dan Matyola
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On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 11:13 PM Ken Waller  wrote:

> Dan, I don't need to hear about this on a camera site.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> >From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
> >Sent: Nov 24, 2018 4:18 PM
> >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> >Subject: OT: Is Paris Burning
> >
> >Ha Europe caught the disease of fanaticism and violence from the US?
> >
> >
> https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1049731/France-protests-paris-riots-police-emmanuel-macron-latest-france-news
> >
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Re: A camera so hip it almost hurts

2018-11-25 Thread Bruce Walker
It pains me to say this, but that's actually kind of appealing. :-)

Does that make me, tragically, hip?


On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 5:23 AM Larry Colen  wrote:
>
> Remember the kickstarter for the camera that uses leica mount lenses
> someone posted a link to a while back?  Here's one that is even hipper.
>
> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ondu-/ondu-iii-pinhole-cameras-perfect-shutter-snap-on-f?ref=project_link
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A camera so hip it almost hurts

2018-11-25 Thread Larry Colen
Remember the kickstarter for the camera that uses leica mount lenses 
someone posted a link to a while back?  Here's one that is even hipper.


https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ondu-/ondu-iii-pinhole-cameras-perfect-shutter-snap-on-f?ref=project_link

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Re: OT: Is Paris Burning

2018-11-25 Thread Jostein
Just because someone needs to write something doesn't mean you need to 
read it, that's completely true.


If I remember correctly that's what we introduced the OT: prefix in the 
subject line for.


Jostein

Den 25.11.2018 05:12, skrev Ken Waller:

Dan, I don't need to hear about this on a camera site.



-Original Message-

From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
Sent: Nov 24, 2018 4:18 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
Subject: OT: Is Paris Burning

Ha Europe caught the disease of fanaticism and violence from the US?

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1049731/France-protests-paris-riots-police-emmanuel-macron-latest-france-news

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