Re: January PUG is up

2019-01-09 Thread Ken Waller

Stan

Thanks for the comment.

Crowds will depend on the time of the year and if the salmon are running. 
Even given some crowds, you should be able to figure out when the 
observation deck is not crowded - just be flexible with your timing. Last 
time I was there, the rangers were limiting the number of people on the 
deck. If the salmon are running, down river will most likely be void of 
bears.


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Stanley Halpin" 

Subject: Re: January PUG is up


We’ll be going back North in 2020, it is too early to book but I have been 
looking at a 2-3 night lodge stay at Brooks Falls…
Even though the prime spots at the upper falls will likely be crowded, I 
may get a little time there early or late in the day, plus along the river 
further down. We’ll see. Meanwhile I have your shot fine Ken and others of 
that genre to study and get my anticipation up!


stan


On Jan 9, 2019, at 1:55 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:


My favorite is Fishin with the Guys by Ken Waller.


Thanks for commenting Dan.

I understand that Katmai is visited alot more now then when you were 
there. I've heard there are now comercial outfits bringing in tourists 
for the day, making it alot more crowded. On my two visits the only way 
to economically visit was to sign up for a package deal including a 
couple of night stay at the lodge - there was no comercial outfits 
offering day trips.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 


Subject: Re: January PUG is up



The January PUG is disappointingly small. but it includes some very fine
images indeed.

My favorite is Fishin with the Guys by Ken Waller.  I was at that very
spot, at Brooks Falls, about 25 years ago.  Like Ken, I was hoping for 
that
classic shot of a salmon jumping into the mouth of a brown bear;  like 
him,

I was disappointed.  In any event, this photo is a very pleasing and
evocative rendition of an unforgettable place and event.

My second favorite is Which Is My Cap? by Henk Terhell.  The repeating
pattern is hypnotic, and the result is quite effective in every respect.



Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 5:40 AM Brian Walters 
wrote:


G'day all,

A slow start to 2019 but a nice selection of images - some innovative
interpretations of the theme.

View here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
there).

Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
gallery,
let me know.

+

Next up: 'Heat'.

Full Submissions Guidelines here:

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Cheers
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Re: Found on facebook forsale in San Jose

2019-01-09 Thread P. J. Alling

Well, they seem to be priced to sell.

On 1/9/2019 4:27 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
I know that we aren't supposed to post ebay stuff, but this isn't 
something most folks would see, it also looks like some great deals.  
He does want it to be local and cash only, so I don't know if it would 
actually be useful to anyone (I'm heading out of town tomorrow morning).


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/134268947520385/?ref=product_details 



Excellent condition of my own Pentax K5 camera selling for $150 obo

For lenses:
16-50/2.8 DA: optical performance is perfect. Glasses are clean. No 
scratch. But SDM might fail if you don't use it for a long time. 
Several times reboot would reactivate the auto focus function. Selling 
for $250 OBO


50/1.4 FA: perfect condition. Selling for $150 OBO

18-55/3.5-5.6: perfect condition. Selling for $20 OBO

55-300/4-5.8 DA: perfect condition. Selling for $120 OBO

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Re: OT: Nat Geo paying homage to the PDML

2019-01-09 Thread P. J. Alling

That was a joke Alan.

On 1/9/2019 10:28 PM, Alan C wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cormorant_fishing

Alan C

On 09-Jan-19 08:01 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

I personally think using cormorants for bait is inhumane...

On 1/9/2019 12:14 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:

maybe not in so many words, but still

https://yourshotblog.nationalgeographic.com/post/181868829229/top-shot-in-the-wee-morning-hours-top-shot 






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Re: OT: Nat Geo paying homage to the PDML

2019-01-09 Thread Alan C

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cormorant_fishing

Alan C

On 09-Jan-19 08:01 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

I personally think using cormorants for bait is inhumane...

On 1/9/2019 12:14 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:

maybe not in so many words, but still

https://yourshotblog.nationalgeographic.com/post/181868829229/top-shot-in-the-wee-morning-hours-top-shot 






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Re: OT: Nat Geo paying homage to the PDML

2019-01-09 Thread Jostein

It's mostly tourist bait though. I think that's ok. :-)

Jostein

Den 09.01.2019 19:01, skrev P. J. Alling:

I personally think using cormorants for bait is inhumane...

On 1/9/2019 12:14 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:

maybe not in so many words, but still

https://yourshotblog.nationalgeographic.com/post/181868829229/top-shot-in-the-wee-morning-hours-top-shot 





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Re: Russian cathedral

2019-01-09 Thread Doug Brewer
We've had the 10KB limit in place for many years. It encourages people 
to trim reply threads.


On 1/9/19 3:37 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:


[I am resending this message, as it apparently was held by the PDML
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Found on facebook forsale in San Jose

2019-01-09 Thread Larry Colen
I know that we aren't supposed to post ebay stuff, but this isn't 
something most folks would see, it also looks like some great deals.  He 
does want it to be local and cash only, so I don't know if it would 
actually be useful to anyone (I'm heading out of town tomorrow morning).


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/134268947520385/?ref=product_details

Excellent condition of my own Pentax K5 camera selling for $150 obo

For lenses:
16-50/2.8 DA: optical performance is perfect. Glasses are clean. No 
scratch. But SDM might fail if you don't use it for a long time. Several 
times reboot would reactivate the auto focus function. Selling for $250 OBO


50/1.4 FA: perfect condition. Selling for $150 OBO

18-55/3.5-5.6: perfect condition. Selling for $20 OBO

55-300/4-5.8 DA: perfect condition. Selling for $120 OBO

Cash and local only.

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Re: Russian cathedral

2019-01-09 Thread Igor PDML-StR


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Dan,
That's a very interesting story.
Besides everything else, it reflects how much humans are affected by
the (often very minuscule) differences in reading/treating the same scriptures. 
Of course those differences are superficial, and the deeper reasons are the 
power and the richness it brings (to the "chosen" ones).


And it happens across all religions.
You probably know the old joke about two Jews stranded on a desert island, who 
built three synagogues: one for the orthodox Jew, one for the reform Jew, and 
one that neither one of them will ever set foot in!

(There is actually a real story from Bermuda that echoes that joke:
https://coatofmanycolors.net/2012/08/25/old-news-proof-to-the-joke-that-a-jew-on-a-tropical-island-would-build-two-synagogues/ 
)


I will stop here, before we fall into discussion of religions -- something that 
tends to lead to various schisms.



In any case, I am always impressed by the breadth and depth of the fascinating 
information I've learned from PDMLers. :-)

Seriously!

Thanks again, Dan, and sorry Bob, for hijacking the thread.
But that's a fun feature of PDML.


Cheers,

Igor

PS. Dan, your two responses do not seem to have made it to either of the two 
PDML web-archives. I wonder why...




On Wed, 9 Jan 2019, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


Igor:
The three churches represent the difficulty our ancestors had fitting into
the religious fabric of this country.

The Rusyns, or Ruthenians, were Christianized as part of Kievan Rus, and
were thus Orthodox Christians.   After Kiev was overrun by the great
Russians and the Mongols/Tatars, those in the western part of Ukraine fell
under the Austrian Empire.  The resolution of the religious wars resulted in
the agreement of the major nations of Europe to recognize "all" Christian
churches, which meant Roman Catholic, Evangelical Lutheran and Reformed. 
This did not include Orthodox churches, which were seen as heretics under
the influence of Russia.  The Rusyns, under the Uzhgorod accord, became a
separate "catholic" church under the pope, but not part of the Roman
Catholic Church. They were called Uniates or Byzantine Rite Catholics.

When the Rusyns came to America, to work in the coal mines, they wanted to
bring their priests with them as soon as they had sufficient funds.  The
priests were rejected by the Roman Catholic bishops, as they were married,
and conducted mass in Slavonic rather than Latin.  Some Rusyns joined Roman
Catholic churches anyway.  Some joined Eastern Orthodox churches, and some,
like my grandparents, helped start new churches apart from both, for the
prienst from the old country.  Later, the Roman Catholics recognized the
Byzantine Rite church as a separate entity, and helped them build churches. 
St Mary's in Manville (now Hillsborough) is such a church.  SS Peter and
Paul's in Manville was affiliated with the Russian Orthodox church, at least
until it came under communist rule.  Holy Ghost was part of the independent
Greek Catholic or Orthodox organization headquartered in Johnstown, PA. 
That is how a small minority of Rusyns in a tiny factory town like Manville
became divided into three small churches, although they shared a common
ethnicity and the architectural style of their church buildings and
liturgies were almost identical.  SS Peter and Paul and Holy Ghost now both
belong to the Orthodox Church in America.

Dan Matyola
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On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 12:15 PM Igor PDML-StR  wrote:

  Dan,

  That sounds like a fun family history! Thanks for sharing.
  I actually remember about your Ruthenian roots, from the
  discussion a few
  years ago.
  And your clarifications make perfect sense. Sorry if my comments
  sounded
  critical.

  And I just looked up your grandparents' church in NJ.
  (It is interesting to see three different Orthodox churches in a
  small US
  town, - all within 2-3 blocks from each other.)

  Somehow (the looks are different... maybe the fact that both are
  rather
  smallish?), it reminded me of the St. Nicolas church I saw some
  4 years
  ago in a small (but some 400-years-old) village ("Bol'shoe
  Goloustnoe")
  on the shore of Lake Baikal:
  https://42graphy.org/galleries/2014-08-baikal/1-selected/_IR29959.html
  This is a totally new church built in 2001 in place of the
  previous
  churches (the first one was built in 1701, and the last one was
  destroyed
  in 1937).
  Here is one more view of that church:
  https://42graphy.org/galleries/2014-08-baikal/b-goloustnoe/_IR29956.html


  Your rather complicated history of the diverse religious
  connections/associations reminded me of a fun fact by which I
  get amused
  every time I recall it: 

Re: PESO 2019 - 003 - GDG

2019-01-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Yes, it really feels good when I get into the zone and can just ride without 
the clutter in my head. :-)

The light metering app I find most useful is named "Pocket Light Meter": 
  https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pocket-light-meter/id381698089?mt=8
Pocket Light Meter produces readings that correlate well to my Sekonic hand 
held reference meter.

Plus: Pocket Light Meter has a special mode to work with a neat little incident 
light metering dome called "Luxi": 
  https://www.amazon.com/Luxi-All-Smartphone-Light-Attachment/dp/B00PKTWQTY
I've had one of these since they first shipped for the iPhone 4/4S (it was a 
Kickstarter project), but this one is much more versatile since it can almost 
be used with almost literally any smartphone. It just clips over the front 
facing camera. Luxi has its own metering app, but Pocket Light Meter seems to 
do a better job.

G
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> On Jan 9, 2019, at 10:36 AM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> Always nice to get lost in the riding. Difficult here at the moment because 
> it's so cold and dark.
> 
> I never thought of using the iphone as a meter - which app do you use?
> […]

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Re: January PUG is up

2019-01-09 Thread Stanley Halpin
Where is the edit button?!?
That would be “…fine shot Ken…” rather than “…shot fine Ken…”
Oh well.

stan

> On Jan 9, 2019, at 2:33 PM, Stanley Halpin  
> wrote:
> 
> We’ll be going back North in 2020, it is too early to book but I have been 
> looking at a 2-3 night lodge stay at Brooks Falls…
> Even though the prime spots at the upper falls will likely be crowded, I may 
> get a little time there early or late in the day, plus along the river 
> further down. We’ll see. Meanwhile I have your shot fine Ken and others of 
> that genre to study and get my anticipation up!
> 
> stan
> 
>> On Jan 9, 2019, at 1:55 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
>> 
>>> My favorite is Fishin with the Guys by Ken Waller.
>> 
>> Thanks for commenting Dan.
>> 
>> I understand that Katmai is visited alot more now then when you were there. 
>> I've heard there are now comercial outfits bringing in tourists for the day, 
>> making it alot more crowded. On my two visits the only way to economically 
>> visit was to sign up for a package deal including a couple of night stay at 
>> the lodge - there was no comercial outfits offering day trips.
>> 
>> Kenneth Waller
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
>> Subject: Re: January PUG is up
>> 
>> 
>>> The January PUG is disappointingly small. but it includes some very fine
>>> images indeed.
>>> 
>>> My favorite is Fishin with the Guys by Ken Waller.  I was at that very
>>> spot, at Brooks Falls, about 25 years ago.  Like Ken, I was hoping for that
>>> classic shot of a salmon jumping into the mouth of a brown bear;  like him,
>>> I was disappointed.  In any event, this photo is a very pleasing and
>>> evocative rendition of an unforgettable place and event.
>>> 
>>> My second favorite is Which Is My Cap? by Henk Terhell.  The repeating
>>> pattern is hypnotic, and the result is quite effective in every respect.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dan Matyola
>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 5:40 AM Brian Walters 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 G'day all,
 
 A slow start to 2019 but a nice selection of images - some innovative
 interpretations of the theme.
 
 View here:
 
 http://pug.komkon.org/
 
 (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
 there).
 
 Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
 infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
 gallery,
 let me know.
 
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 Next up: 'Heat'.
 
 Full Submissions Guidelines here:
 
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 Cheers
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 ++
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Re: January PUG is up

2019-01-09 Thread Stanley Halpin
We’ll be going back North in 2020, it is too early to book but I have been 
looking at a 2-3 night lodge stay at Brooks Falls…
Even though the prime spots at the upper falls will likely be crowded, I may 
get a little time there early or late in the day, plus along the river further 
down. We’ll see. Meanwhile I have your shot fine Ken and others of that genre 
to study and get my anticipation up!

stan

> On Jan 9, 2019, at 1:55 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> 
>> My favorite is Fishin with the Guys by Ken Waller.
> 
> Thanks for commenting Dan.
> 
> I understand that Katmai is visited alot more now then when you were there. 
> I've heard there are now comercial outfits bringing in tourists for the day, 
> making it alot more crowded. On my two visits the only way to economically 
> visit was to sign up for a package deal including a couple of night stay at 
> the lodge - there was no comercial outfits offering day trips.
> 
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
> Subject: Re: January PUG is up
> 
> 
>> The January PUG is disappointingly small. but it includes some very fine
>> images indeed.
>> 
>> My favorite is Fishin with the Guys by Ken Waller.  I was at that very
>> spot, at Brooks Falls, about 25 years ago.  Like Ken, I was hoping for that
>> classic shot of a salmon jumping into the mouth of a brown bear;  like him,
>> I was disappointed.  In any event, this photo is a very pleasing and
>> evocative rendition of an unforgettable place and event.
>> 
>> My second favorite is Which Is My Cap? by Henk Terhell.  The repeating
>> pattern is hypnotic, and the result is quite effective in every respect.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 5:40 AM Brian Walters 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> G'day all,
>>> 
>>> A slow start to 2019 but a nice selection of images - some innovative
>>> interpretations of the theme.
>>> 
>>> View here:
>>> 
>>> http://pug.komkon.org/
>>> 
>>> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
>>> there).
>>> 
>>> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
>>> infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
>>> gallery,
>>> let me know.
>>> 
>>> +
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> ++
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Re: January PUG is up

2019-01-09 Thread Ken Waller

My favorite is Fishin with the Guys by Ken Waller.


Thanks for commenting Dan.

I understand that Katmai is visited alot more now then when you were there. 
I've heard there are now comercial outfits bringing in tourists for the day, 
making it alot more crowded. On my two visits the only way to economically 
visit was to sign up for a package deal including a couple of night stay at 
the lodge - there was no comercial outfits offering day trips.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 

Subject: Re: January PUG is up



The January PUG is disappointingly small. but it includes some very fine
images indeed.

My favorite is Fishin with the Guys by Ken Waller.  I was at that very
spot, at Brooks Falls, about 25 years ago.  Like Ken, I was hoping for 
that
classic shot of a salmon jumping into the mouth of a brown bear;  like 
him,

I was disappointed.  In any event, this photo is a very pleasing and
evocative rendition of an unforgettable place and event.

My second favorite is Which Is My Cap? by Henk Terhell.  The repeating
pattern is hypnotic, and the result is quite effective in every respect.



Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 5:40 AM Brian Walters 
wrote:


G'day all,

A slow start to 2019 but a nice selection of images - some innovative
interpretations of the theme.

View here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
there).

Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
gallery,
let me know.

+

Next up: 'Heat'.

Full Submissions Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

You can submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Cheers
Brian
++
Brian Walters
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Re: OT: Nat Geo paying homage to the PDML

2019-01-09 Thread Bob W-PDML
Indeed - forcing the fish to swallow the greasy slimeballs is cruel and unusual 
punishment.

They don't look like PDML cormos though, far too well-behaved and quiet. 
Admirable plumage!

> On 9 Jan 2019, at 18:01, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> I personally think using cormorants for bait is inhumane...
> 
>> On 1/9/2019 12:14 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:
>> maybe not in so many words, but still
>> 
>> https://yourshotblog.nationalgeographic.com/post/181868829229/top-shot-in-the-wee-morning-hours-top-shot
>>  
>> 
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Re: PESO 2019 - 003 - GDG

2019-01-09 Thread Bob W-PDML
Always nice to get lost in the riding. Difficult here at the moment because 
it's so cold and dark.

I never thought of using the iphone as a meter - which app do you use?

Bob

> On 9 Jan 2019, at 15:23, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> Monday's bicycle ride...
> 
>  At Hanchett Park - San Jose 2019: https://flic.kr/p/2e32Pts
> 
> I was definitely in a "just want to ride and ride" kind of mood. I carried 
> one of my Polaroid cameras but didn't stop to make any photos. It was a "do 
> the usual loop" kind of day, and I did it fast and hard ... it felt great to 
> be breathing hard and working myself. I stopped finally at one of my local 
> cafe hangouts, said hi to a few of the regulars there that I know, and had 
> fun joking with the barista for a bit. 
> 
> The Polaroid camera I had with me is one of those that was custom modified by 
> a company in Hong Kong for manual exposure control. I'd loaded some faster 
> than normal film in it, used my iPhone as a light meter, and made a quick 
> snap of bicycle through the cafe window while I was sipping my coffee and 
> before the sun went down. 
> 
> By the time I left the cafe, the sun had been past the horizon by a half 
> hour, so I fitted my brighter headlight and set off towards home. I took the 
> slightly longer leg of the usual loop back, still enjoying pushing hard and 
> all the endorphins that pumped up. I've come to like riding in the twilight 
> hour a lot as long as the temperatures are comfortable, and it stayed dry all 
> the way back although I could smell the rain coming.
> 
> It was a fine ride, all of it, and allowed me to get lost in the riding and 
> meditate freely. Perhaps today there'll be a window of opportunity again.
> 
> Onwards!
> 
> G
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Re: OT: Nat Geo paying homage to the PDML

2019-01-09 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Now I can see the image, and it is stunning.

Back in 1966, I watched Japanese fishermen using cormorants to catch fish
in the Inland Sea.

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On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 1:01 PM P. J. Alling 
wrote:

> I personally think using cormorants for bait is inhumane...
>
> On 1/9/2019 12:14 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:
> > maybe not in so many words, but still
> >
> >
> https://yourshotblog.nationalgeographic.com/post/181868829229/top-shot-in-the-wee-morning-hours-top-shot
> >
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Re: OT: Nat Geo paying homage to the PDML

2019-01-09 Thread P. J. Alling

I personally think using cormorants for bait is inhumane...

On 1/9/2019 12:14 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:

maybe not in so many words, but still

https://yourshotblog.nationalgeographic.com/post/181868829229/top-shot-in-the-wee-morning-hours-top-shot 




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Re: OT: Nat Geo paying homage to the PDML

2019-01-09 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I can read the article, but the image does not come through.

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On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 12:15 PM Doug Brewer 
wrote:

> maybe not in so many words, but still
>
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> https://yourshotblog.nationalgeographic.com/post/181868829229/top-shot-in-the-wee-morning-hours-top-shot
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Re: Russian cathedral

2019-01-09 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Dan,

That sounds like a fun family history! Thanks for sharing.
I actually remember about your Ruthenian roots, from the discussion a few 
years ago.
And your clarifications make perfect sense. Sorry if my comments sounded 
critical.


And I just looked up your grandparents' church in NJ.
(It is interesting to see three different Orthodox churches in a small US 
town, - all within 2-3 blocks from each other.)


Somehow (the looks are different... maybe the fact that both are rather
smallish?), it reminded me of the St. Nicolas church I saw some 4 years 
ago in a small (but some 400-years-old) village ("Bol'shoe Goloustnoe") 
on the shore of Lake Baikal:

https://42graphy.org/galleries/2014-08-baikal/1-selected/_IR29959.html
This is a totally new church built in 2001 in place of the previous 
churches (the first one was built in 1701, and the last one was destroyed 
in 1937). 
Here is one more view of that church:

https://42graphy.org/galleries/2014-08-baikal/b-goloustnoe/_IR29956.html


Your rather complicated history of the diverse religious 
connections/associations reminded me of a fun fact by which I get amused 
every time I recall it: the official name for the Eastern Orthodox Church 
is "Orthodox Catholic Church".


Cheers,

Igor


On Wed, 9 Jan 2019, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


Igor:
When I wrote that it was Russian Christmas, it was still Jan 7 (barely)
where I was.  I know that other Orthodox churches celebrate the Nativity on
Jan 7, but I reflexively used "Russian Christmas" because that is what we
called it when I was growing up.  My extended family, on both sides, was
divided into almost equal shares of Lutherans, Roman Catholics, and Eastern
Orthodox.  My father grew up in a Capatho-Ruthenian Greek Catholic Orthodox
church, and although I was raised Lutheran, I went to the Orthodox church
for weddings, funerals and every Easter and Christmas.  In my nuclear
family, we celebrated on December 24 at our home, then joined my mother's
extended family on December 25 and my father's extended family on January
6-7.  With my Mother's birthday Dec 10, mine Dec 18 and my father's Dec 23,
we had a month of holiday celebrations.

My wife and I spent 2 weeks in Russia years ago, including a river cruise
from Moscow to St Petersburg.  I must have seen hundreds of churches there,
and entered dozens, plus several monasteries.  Most, aside from St Isaac's,
were quite colorful.  "Gaudy" was perhaps an inappropriate word, but I used
it without meaning hey are tasteless.  Colorful, or perhaps "flamboyant"
would have been a bit better, but that latter term is commonly used to
describe a specific form of architecture quite unlike that of the Russian
churches.  "Enthusiastic" might be the best description of the style.  My
grandparents' church in Manville, New Jersey,  was small and old-fashioned. 
When they rebuilt it abiut 40 years ago, it was topped by 5 gleaming
onion-shaped cupolas, in the enthusiastic style I saw all over Russia. 

Of course, the wooden churches of Kizhi are among the most beautiful of all
religious structures.
 
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On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 10:49 PM Igor PDML-StR  wrote:

  Bob,
  It is a nice and intriguing image, but it appears a bit too dark
  on my
  monitor. I suspect it would look better with white matting.

  Interspersed below are my comments to Dan.

  Igor


    Bob W-PDML Mon, 07 Jan 2019 15:07:46 -0800

  > This is the Russian Orthodox cathedral in London, photographed
  with my
  > phone on Christmas Eve (not Orthodox Xmas!) after dinner with
  some
  > friends who live nearby.
  >
  >
  > https://preview.tinyurl.com/yd27mncz
  >
  
>https://lightroom.adobe.com/shares/00f4c7321374431ea848517ce1613814/albums/
  775e41e7fe91462d820fd3ba97d4cc07/assets/d9dff94892dc435d9a93ee80a347da4a






    Daniel J. Matyola Mon, 07 Jan 2019 16:52:49 -0800 wrote:

  > It works for me in Chrome.
  >
  > I like the lighting and the patterns of light and dark.  To my
  eye,
  > however, it looks nothing like a Russian cathedral.

  Dan,

  "All cats are grey in the dark".
  (I thought it was a Russian proverb, but I've learned it is
  attributed to
  Benjamin Franklin, but in fact appeared earlier in John
  Heywood's book
  of proverbs (1546).)


  On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 8:55 PM Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

  > Russian churches tend to be gaudy, like St Basils and the
  Church on the
  > Spilled Blood

  I wonder which meaning of the word "gaudy" you assumed here.
  I would say that they look very elaborate and rich/expensive,
  but
  it is far from being tasteless (as often implied by the word
  "gaudy".)
  Besides, those two churches stand apart from most others. Just
  google
  "Russian church" and the see the variety of designs, most of
  which are
  very 

OT: Nat Geo paying homage to the PDML

2019-01-09 Thread Doug Brewer

maybe not in so many words, but still

https://yourshotblog.nationalgeographic.com/post/181868829229/top-shot-in-the-wee-morning-hours-top-shot

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Re: NESO - Cage

2019-01-09 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I very much like the lighting and the geometry of the figure, but the stool
(?) distract a bit from the power and unity of the image for me.

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On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 10:07 AM Bruce Walker  wrote:

> Cage ~ October 2018 ~ Mississauga
>
> https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IF3hAAvSDEhM
>
> I am getting much better at reducing PP. I processed this in Lightroom
> only and it was mainly hue shifts for skin tones, and global curve and
> level adjustments.
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PESO 2019 - 003 - GDG

2019-01-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Monday's bicycle ride...

  At Hanchett Park - San Jose 2019: https://flic.kr/p/2e32Pts

I was definitely in a "just want to ride and ride" kind of mood. I carried one 
of my Polaroid cameras but didn't stop to make any photos. It was a "do the 
usual loop" kind of day, and I did it fast and hard ... it felt great to be 
breathing hard and working myself. I stopped finally at one of my local cafe 
hangouts, said hi to a few of the regulars there that I know, and had fun 
joking with the barista for a bit. 

The Polaroid camera I had with me is one of those that was custom modified by a 
company in Hong Kong for manual exposure control. I'd loaded some faster than 
normal film in it, used my iPhone as a light meter, and made a quick snap of 
bicycle through the cafe window while I was sipping my coffee and before the 
sun went down. 

By the time I left the cafe, the sun had been past the horizon by a half hour, 
so I fitted my brighter headlight and set off towards home. I took the slightly 
longer leg of the usual loop back, still enjoying pushing hard and all the 
endorphins that pumped up. I've come to like riding in the twilight hour a lot 
as long as the temperatures are comfortable, and it stayed dry all the way back 
although I could smell the rain coming.
 
It was a fine ride, all of it, and allowed me to get lost in the riding and 
meditate freely. Perhaps today there'll be a window of opportunity again.

Onwards!

G
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NESO - Cage

2019-01-09 Thread Bruce Walker
Cage ~ October 2018 ~ Mississauga

https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IF3hAAvSDEhM

I am getting much better at reducing PP. I processed this in Lightroom
only and it was mainly hue shifts for skin tones, and global curve and
level adjustments.

645z, 90mm/2.8 Macro

Model: Joy Kidston.

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Re: Last minute silliness cauli-fluor

2019-01-09 Thread Larry Colen

Thanks Alan and Beaker!

Michael Beacom wrote on 1/1/19 12:04 AM:

The secret life of cauli-fluor...

I really like the mystery of the ones lit from within!
The blue rim light is a nice touch.

Cheers
Beaker


Sent from my iPad


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Have you ever had a fun idea for photographing vegetables, but then couldn't 
find your fluorescent chalk?  Fortunately I found some paint that would work, 
at least for trying out the idea.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157675065925797
In the future, I might need to primer the cauliflower before painting it, to 
get things to work right.

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