Re: OT: Transatlantic Political Humo(u)r

[mike wilson]

Who cares?  I'm more intrigued by the possibility of one, despicable person 
being both PM and pres.

> On 02 June 2019 at 22:26 "Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:
> 
> 
> Churchill was half American.  England claimed him, so you can have Johnson
> as well.  
> Is it true Boris named his children Peaches, Lettuce, Apple and Milo?
> 
> Dan Matyola
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> 
> 
> On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 3:57 PM mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> > You do know that Boris was born in New York, don't you?  Be careful what
> > you wish for.
> >
> > > On 02 June 2019 at 20:25 "Daniel J. Matyola" 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > It seems the American President is going to England just as a job is
> > > opening up there.   Perhaps you can make him an offer he can't refuse?
> > He
> > > looks like Boris's long lost brother.
> > >
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Re: OT: Transatlantic Political Humo(u)r

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Good idea.
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On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 11:57 PM Bill  wrote:

> On 6/2/2019 1:25 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> > It seems the American President is going to England just as a job is
> > opening up there.   Perhaps you can make him an offer he can't refuse?
> He
> > looks like Boris's long lost brother.
> >
> > Dan Matyola
> > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> >
>
> Wouldn't it be more to the point for America to get the wall built
> quickly so he can't get back in?
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Re: OT: Transatlantic Political Humo(u)r

[Bill]

On 6/2/2019 1:25 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

It seems the American President is going to England just as a job is
opening up there.   Perhaps you can make him an offer he can't refuse?  He
looks like Boris's long lost brother.

Dan Matyola
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Wouldn't it be more to the point for America to get the wall built 
quickly so he can't get back in?


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GFM Nature Photography Weekend

[John]

I'm home. This was the first year I didn't have to rush back to get Baxter out 
of kitty jail ... I mean the pet hotel.


Didn't win any prizes, so my record for not taking the contest too seriously 
remains unblemished.


Didn't do a whole lot of nature PHOTOGRAPHY, but it was an interesting weekend 
for seeing nature. While I was driving up a Pileated woodpecker flew across the 
road right in front of me. It was there and then it was gone, but it was plainly 
visible; best look at one I've ever had. Every time I've encountered them 
before, they were always up in a tree and hiding around the other side of the 
trunk. BIG woodpecker. No hiding this time.


Sunrise Saturday was a bust. Heavy gusts & thick overcast caused them to close 
off the top of the mountain, including the trail-head for the Black Rock Nature 
Trail (EASY, 1 mile trail with good view of the Parkway from Grandfather 
Mountain). I'd used The Photographers Ephemeris to figure out where I was going 
to shoot sunrise from & was going to try out the 15-30 f/2.8 to see if I could 
image stack the foreground with the "Waning crescent 4.9%" almost new moon that 
rose one hour before the sunrise.


So, once I found out there wasn't gonna be no sunrise with an almost new "Waning 
crescent 4.9%" moon, I figured I'd head down to McDonald's at Banner Elk & get a 
cup of coffee to jump-start my mental processes ... except it was closed when I 
got there. Doug later told me it caught fire & they're having to rebuild it. I 
ended up with a cup of gas station coffee from the mini-mart across the road.


Coming back to the mountain, I spotted a flock of wild turkeys out on the edge 
of McCrae Meadow with the dominant Tom making a display. I managed to get a 
couple of photos before someone else stopped & decided to walk up on them to get 
closer ... with predictable results.


On the way back from Banner Elk, I saw a sign for a Draft Horse pulling contest, 
so I bagged the contest & went over to take some photos there. I'd never seen 
one before.


Headed back to the mountain around 4:00pm to turn in my one photo. They extended 
the submission deadline until 5:00pm this year.


Went through Banner Elk again, and just before I got to the country club 
entrance on NC 105, a bear cub came down the hill from my right and ran across 
the road in front of me. Again, I got a real good look, but no time to reach for 
my camera.


Even if I hadn't been fully occupied with driving, I deliberately put the camera 
out of reach when I am driving so I won't be too tempted to do something too stupid.


After this morning's presentations & issuing certificates to the winners, I took 
a walk through the habitats before heading home. They've got a new Elk habitat. 
And it looks like they've got plans to expand the museum complex. The drawings 
they have in the brochure make it look like it's going to be on the other side 
of the auditorium where the picnic shelter is now.


Took a different route home, partly to see if I could remember one of the old 
short-cuts I used to use when I was running service for the alarm company & 
needed to get between two clients who weren't connected by an interstate (or 
even a primary road).


Nailed it & had a nice sunset along the way. "Fields of Gold" and all that, so I 
got to see a nice bit of nature this weekend, even if I didn't get to photograph 
all that much of it.




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Re: OT: Transatlantic Political Humo(u)r

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Perhaps Mrs May can seek asylum in the US.  We have these Asylum Cities .
.  .  .

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On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 7:22 PM Paul Sorenson  wrote:

> Both born in New York - they must have been twins separated at birth.
> Makes one lean toward nature as the answer to the nature vs nurture
> question.
>
> On 6/2/2019 2:56 PM, mike wilson wrote:
> > You do know that Boris was born in New York, don't you?  Be careful what
> you wish for.
> >
> >> On 02 June 2019 at 20:25 "Daniel J. Matyola" 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> It seems the American President is going to England just as a job is
> >> opening up there.   Perhaps you can make him an offer he can't refuse?
> He
> >> looks like Boris's long lost brother.
> >>
> >> Dan Matyola
> >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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Re: A gallery for the motorheads

[John]

There were some VW utility/work vans that had doors on both sides. I've seen 
them for sale on Samba.com



On 5/31/2019 12:12:27, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

I was able to see the photos too.

Did he really put a second set of side doors on it? IIRC, my VW Bus only had 
the doors on the right side.

One thing for sure: You're going to need earplugs to drive it. That thin little 
wall and clear glass dividing you from that engine is not going to keep 
interior noise under 150db... :)

Hopefully it is built on a frame with a bit better suspension than the VW 
Transporter had. Or it's just a blaster for drag racing...

G
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"No matter those bearings are a little noisy: the driver is expendable."


On May 31, 2019, at 8:52 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:

Paul Stenquist wrote on 5/31/19 8:43 AM:

The link worked for me.
I wonder what sort of frame this vehicle rests on. I don’t see a lot of 
structural tubing. Probably a death trap.


I don't remember. It used to be up on a lift, I don't think I ever got any 
photos of the underside.






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Re: A gallery for the motorheads

[John]

Apparently not public enough, because I'm still getting the same error 3 days 
later.

On 5/31/2019 11:37:35, l...@red4est.com wrote:

Odd, there must have been a hiccup because it should be public

On May 31, 2019 4:19:44 AM PDT, John  wrote:

403
You need to be signed in to see this

2019-05-31T11:18:02Z-fe92828d@server

It appears you don’t have permission to view this album.



On 5/30/2019 21:56:50, Larry Colen wrote:

When I was in college I worked for a summer at the Boardwalk in Santa

Cruz.  A

12 year old had a job picking up trash on the beach, and told me

about his

(father's) VW bus that would do 120MPH, in the quarter mile.  My

reaction was to

think "yeah, I was 12 once too".

This is the successor to that bus, his father took the original with

him when he

moved to Nevada.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157708846575623









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Re: OT: Transatlantic Political Humo(u)r

[Paul Sorenson]

Both born in New York - they must have been twins separated at birth.  
Makes one lean toward nature as the answer to the nature vs nurture 
question.


On 6/2/2019 2:56 PM, mike wilson wrote:

You do know that Boris was born in New York, don't you?  Be careful what you 
wish for.


On 02 June 2019 at 20:25 "Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:


It seems the American President is going to England just as a job is
opening up there.   Perhaps you can make him an offer he can't refuse?  He
looks like Boris's long lost brother.

Dan Matyola
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Re: OT: Transatlantic Political Humo(u)r

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Churchill was half American.  England claimed him, so you can have Johnson
as well.  
Is it true Boris named his children Peaches, Lettuce, Apple and Milo?

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On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 3:57 PM mike wilson  wrote:

> You do know that Boris was born in New York, don't you?  Be careful what
> you wish for.
>
> > On 02 June 2019 at 20:25 "Daniel J. Matyola" 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > It seems the American President is going to England just as a job is
> > opening up there.   Perhaps you can make him an offer he can't refuse?
> He
> > looks like Boris's long lost brother.
> >
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Re: PESO feeding time

[Paul Stenquist]

Fascinating. Well done!

Paul

> On Jun 2, 2019, at 4:08 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> In the department of "they grow up so fast", I took this a few minutes ago, 
> from my living room:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/47987959918/in/album-72157708849514267/
> 
> I'd be surprised if they're still in the nest on Wednesday.
> 
> Larry Colen wrote on 5/30/19 11:46 PM:
>> I set up a light that really helps with the photos of the Steller's jay 
>> nest.  Shortly thereafter the second parent (my guess is Dadbird) showed up 
>> to feed everyone.  Here's a shot with both parents, and several chicks 
>> visible
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/47970534238/in/album-72157708849514267/
>>  I'm uploading the full set now. It seems as if the new flickr 
>> infrastructure isn't quite back up to full speed. If anyone's interested in 
>> the full set, which also has some shots of one of the parents in my yard:
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157708849514267
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Re: PESO feeding time

[Jostein Øksne]

Ouch, you're right, Larry. My apologies!

What I had in mind was something like "careful" or "prudent".

Jostein

Den 02.06.2019 18:56, skrev l...@red4est.com:


On June 2, 2019 7:03:26 AM PDT, "Jostein Øksne"  wrote:

We seem to be in violent agreement, Dan. I just adviced Larry to be
candid about presenting his photos, that's all.

What definition of candid are you using? I am being open and honest about them.



Another funny comparison between countries could be perspectives on
photographing nudity, but we've opened that can of worms enough times
already, haven't we. :-)

Jostein

Den 02.06.2019 14:35, skrev Daniel J. Matyola:

Jostein, the way Larry has set things up does not seem to be

bothering the

birds or interfering with their natural behavior.
As he points out, they keep returning to that spot year after year.

I had some sparrows build a nest under one of the eaves of our house,

on

top of a floodlight.  Unfortunately, the position made it impossible

to

look into the nest, or even attempt a photograph, without getting up

on a

ladder right next to it, which I would never consider doing.

BTW, at almost all of the eagle cams, the naturalists go in to tag

the

nestlings, before they are able to fly away.  It is interesting to

learn

that some of our local chick from here in New Jersey found their way

up to

New England.  Raptor protection groups claim to gather important
information about the birds from studying both the nests and the

later

travels of the birds.

My reference to whales goes back to when I visited you in Oslo, many

years

ago.  Among many other things, we discussed the Nordic and America

views on

Wale conservation.  You pointed out the importance of the wales in

the

Scandinavia cultures, and I remarked that even in the US we recognize

the

native cultural needs of the Northwest Alaskan peoples, who are for

the

most part exempt from the bans on hunting and eating wales.

On our first trip to Hawai'i, back in the 1980s, my son was
enthusiastically looking forward to riding jet skis in the pacific.

Short

visits to the Sierra Club and the Pacific Wale Foundation put a quick

end

to that, and converted him to an avid conservationist.  Maui has a

lot of

coast watchers, who sit on the lanais (balconies) of their condos

peering

through binoculars hour after hour, and reporting any boats who

approach

the wales too closely.  The wales their are most sensitive, as there

are

many newborn calves.  There is nothing near Maui for the wales to

eat, so

they fast from the time they leave the Alaskan waters, 3,000 miles

away,

until they return months later.  Like many mainland tourists, all

they do

during their Hawai'ian vacation is breed, give birth, and teach the

young

to swim.

Yes, the "Russian spy" beluga received extensive coverage in the US.
Belugas are among the most frequently mistreated of marine animals,

because

their size, intelligence and friendliness makes them easy to exploit.

The

recent NatGeo article on animal tourism covers that (and other

travesties).

Sea World and similar operations are quite controversial today.

Under

great public pressure, Sea World ended its Orca breeding program, and

has

promised to phase out the "Shamu" type circuses.  We will see.

Dan Matyola
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On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 7:26 AM Jostein Øksne 

wrote:

Nest cameras are a different kettle of fish, Dan. They are automated

and

can be set up before the birds settle in. Especially with the large
birds of prey which conveniently return to the same nest year after
year. It is the photographer's presence by the nest that cause the
disturbance more than the picture-taking itself.

It seems that the same rules of engagement, if one can call it that,

is

recommended by some concerned parties in the USA too. Have a look:
https://nestwatch.org/connect/news/nest-photography-guidelines/

Interesting comparison to whales. Bit of a paradox with Sea World,

isn't

it?

Btw, did you read about the "tame" beluga whale with a harness that
showed up on Norwegian shores this winter? It was clearly seeking
contact and being very accustomed to taking food from human hands.

Rumor

has it that Russians have a programme to train belugas for

underwater

recon and scooping up mines, among other things.




https://www.dw.com/en/mystery-whale-found-near-norway-fuels-russian-navy-speculation/a-48536688

There's some added photography relevance there in that Audun

Rikardsen,

the professor quoted in the article is himself a champion of the BBC
Nature Photo Contest a few years ago.

Jostein




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Re: PESO feeding time

[Larry Colen]

In the department of "they grow up so fast", I took this a few minutes 
ago, from my living room:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/47987959918/in/album-72157708849514267/

I'd be surprised if they're still in the nest on Wednesday.

Larry Colen wrote on 5/30/19 11:46 PM:
I set up a light that really helps with the photos of the Steller's jay 
nest.  Shortly thereafter the second parent (my guess is Dadbird) showed 
up to feed everyone.  Here's a shot with both parents, and several 
chicks visible
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/47970534238/in/album-72157708849514267/ 



I'm uploading the full set now. It seems as if the new flickr 
infrastructure isn't quite back up to full speed. If anyone's interested 
in the full set, which also has some shots of one of the parents in my 
yard:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157708849514267




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GESO (6) - Madrid 2 (re-sending)

[Rick Womer]

Voila:

https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/Spain-2019/Madrid-2/

Coming up, a small gallery from the Madrid Cathedral.

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Re: OT: Transatlantic Political Humo(u)r

[mike wilson]

You do know that Boris was born in New York, don't you?  Be careful what you 
wish for.

> On 02 June 2019 at 20:25 "Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:
> 
> 
> It seems the American President is going to England just as a job is
> opening up there.   Perhaps you can make him an offer he can't refuse?  He
> looks like Boris's long lost brother.
> 
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Re: Doug (and other musicians) at the Portland Lindy Exchange

[Larry Colen]

Daniel J. Matyola wrote on 6/2/19 5:01 AM:

That is a fine portrait, full of character.


Thanks Dan.  It turns out that he played with at least two of the bands 
that weekend.  I loved his expressive face.


I also like 629, 637 and 751 very much


Thanks a bunch.



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On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 5:43 AM Larry Colen  wrote:


I finally got through my photos of musicians at the Portland Lindy
Exchange last month and got the better ones posted to flickr.

This one of Doug Sammons playing with the Bridgetown sextet is one of my
favorites:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/47984205508/in/album-72157708883120871/

The full album is here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157708883120871?fbclid=IwAR0HlXE8CxkSeec_2CDCZ97ex4AI_tYkM9VENu6sIEUaSwvBEbiMQXZ30P8

The music all weekend was awesome.

C on the photos is appreciated, as always.

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Re: OT Geso Lynde Park

[Daniel J. Matyola]

A nice gallery with some very interesting and pleasing images.

My favorites are 21061, the sunglasses on the fence post, and 21107, the
turkey head shot.

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On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 11:46 AM David J Brooks  wrote:

> Friday i took off from my lunch duties and went with two other
> photographers to Lynde Park Conservation are near Lake Ontario. Its a well
> used area, but quiet,  and the birds and animals are pretty use to people.
> Classes hold field trips to study nature.
>
> So Anyway a small gallery of shots
>
> www.caughtinmotion.com/2019-lynde1/album/index.html
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> Nikon D7200, 70-200 VR F2.8, minor LR6 adjustments on a few
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OT: Transatlantic Political Humo(u)r

[Daniel J. Matyola]

It seems the American President is going to England just as a job is
opening up there.   Perhaps you can make him an offer he can't refuse?  He
looks like Boris's long lost brother.

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GESO (6) - Madrid 2

[Rick Womer]

Voila:

https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/Spain-2019/Madrid-2/

Coming up, a small gallery from the Madrid Cathedral.

Rick

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Re: More bridge photos

[Larry Colen]

Rick Womer wrote on 6/2/19 10:27 AM:

Larry, I really like the interior panorama. The nighttime shots are on the edge 
of being cartoonish; a “less is more” approach to processing might work better.


Thanks.  I'm struggling with the balance of bringing out the sky and 
having it look cartoonish, as you describe it.  I may have to try again 
on another night.  There can be a bit of a challenge getting a clear 
moonless night that close to the Oregon coast.




Cheers,

Rick


On Jun 1, 2019, at 8:01 PM, Dale H. Cook  wrote:

On 6/1/2019 6:27 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


I'm still trying to crunch away at the photos from my trip.


I like the natural-color exterior shots. I also like the one looking through 
the bridge from the interior without added distortion. I'm not so hot on that 
same shot with added distortion. I guess I'm just an old fuddy-duddy who, as a 
rule, prefers realism with relatively minimal post for some enhancement.
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Re: OT Geso Lynde Park

[Paul Sorenson]

That was a pleasant excursion.  Some very nice wildlife images.

-p

On 6/2/2019 10:45 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Friday i took off from my lunch duties and went with two other
photographers to Lynde Park Conservation are near Lake Ontario. Its a well
used area, but quiet,  and the birds and animals are pretty use to people.
Classes hold field trips to study nature.

So Anyway a small gallery of shots

www.caughtinmotion.com/2019-lynde1/album/index.html

Nikon D7200, 70-200 VR F2.8, minor LR6 adjustments on a few

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Re: More bridge photos

[Rick Womer]

Larry, I really like the interior panorama. The nighttime shots are on the edge 
of being cartoonish; a “less is more” approach to processing might work better.

Cheers,

Rick

> On Jun 1, 2019, at 8:01 PM, Dale H. Cook  wrote:
> 
> On 6/1/2019 6:27 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
> 
>> I'm still trying to crunch away at the photos from my trip.
> 
> I like the natural-color exterior shots. I also like the one looking through 
> the bridge from the interior without added distortion. I'm not so hot on that 
> same shot with added distortion. I guess I'm just an old fuddy-duddy who, as 
> a rule, prefers realism with relatively minimal post for some enhancement.
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Re: SD cards

[P. J. Alling]

That more or less reinforces the impression that I got from this article,

https://www.cameramemoryspeed.com/pentax-k-3-ii/fastest-sd-card-comparison-test/

You really need a card with a write speed of about 40MB/s to cover the 
K-3* and K-1 bus speed, and a fast read speed if you're using an 
external card reader.


Sandisk cards with a 40MB/s write speeds are going for about ~$5 per 
16-32GB on amazon.  So if you don't care about the maximum read speed 
you can buy quite a bit of memory for not a lot of money.


*Assuming that the K-3 and K-3II have the same bus architecture, with I 
think is a fair assumption.


On 6/2/2019 5:55 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



Igor PDML-StR wrote on 5/28/19 6:45 PM:


Larry,

I've written some thoughts on this almost exactly 1 year ago:
http://pdml.net/pipermail/pdml_pdml.net/2018-May/445228.html


I stumbled across this article today:

https://alikgriffin.com/best-memory-cards-pentax-k-1/

I ended up going with a couple of these:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H4BPZZG/

at $60 for 1/4 TB.  Yeah, I'm gobsmacked, not only by the cost, but by 
the size.



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Re: PESO feeding time

[lrc]

On June 2, 2019 7:03:26 AM PDT, "Jostein Øksne"  wrote:
>We seem to be in violent agreement, Dan. I just adviced Larry to be 
>candid about presenting his photos, that's all.

What definition of candid are you using? I am being open and honest about them. 


>
>Another funny comparison between countries could be perspectives on 
>photographing nudity, but we've opened that can of worms enough times 
>already, haven't we. :-)
>
>Jostein
>
>Den 02.06.2019 14:35, skrev Daniel J. Matyola:
>> Jostein, the way Larry has set things up does not seem to be
>bothering the
>> birds or interfering with their natural behavior.
>> As he points out, they keep returning to that spot year after year.
>>
>> I had some sparrows build a nest under one of the eaves of our house,
>on
>> top of a floodlight.  Unfortunately, the position made it impossible
>to
>> look into the nest, or even attempt a photograph, without getting up
>on a
>> ladder right next to it, which I would never consider doing.
>>
>> BTW, at almost all of the eagle cams, the naturalists go in to tag
>the
>> nestlings, before they are able to fly away.  It is interesting to
>learn
>> that some of our local chick from here in New Jersey found their way
>up to
>> New England.  Raptor protection groups claim to gather important
>> information about the birds from studying both the nests and the
>later
>> travels of the birds.
>>
>> My reference to whales goes back to when I visited you in Oslo, many
>years
>> ago.  Among many other things, we discussed the Nordic and America
>views on
>> Wale conservation.  You pointed out the importance of the wales in
>the
>> Scandinavia cultures, and I remarked that even in the US we recognize
>the
>> native cultural needs of the Northwest Alaskan peoples, who are for
>the
>> most part exempt from the bans on hunting and eating wales.
>>
>> On our first trip to Hawai'i, back in the 1980s, my son was
>> enthusiastically looking forward to riding jet skis in the pacific. 
>Short
>> visits to the Sierra Club and the Pacific Wale Foundation put a quick
>end
>> to that, and converted him to an avid conservationist.  Maui has a
>lot of
>> coast watchers, who sit on the lanais (balconies) of their condos
>peering
>> through binoculars hour after hour, and reporting any boats who
>approach
>> the wales too closely.  The wales their are most sensitive, as there
>are
>> many newborn calves.  There is nothing near Maui for the wales to
>eat, so
>> they fast from the time they leave the Alaskan waters, 3,000 miles
>away,
>> until they return months later.  Like many mainland tourists, all
>they do
>> during their Hawai'ian vacation is breed, give birth, and teach the
>young
>> to swim.
>>
>> Yes, the "Russian spy" beluga received extensive coverage in the US.
>> Belugas are among the most frequently mistreated of marine animals,
>because
>> their size, intelligence and friendliness makes them easy to exploit.
> The
>> recent NatGeo article on animal tourism covers that (and other
>travesties).
>>
>> Sea World and similar operations are quite controversial today. 
>Under
>> great public pressure, Sea World ended its Orca breeding program, and
>has
>> promised to phase out the "Shamu" type circuses.  We will see.
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 7:26 AM Jostein Øksne 
>wrote:
>>
>>> Nest cameras are a different kettle of fish, Dan. They are automated
>and
>>> can be set up before the birds settle in. Especially with the large
>>> birds of prey which conveniently return to the same nest year after
>>> year. It is the photographer's presence by the nest that cause the
>>> disturbance more than the picture-taking itself.
>>>
>>> It seems that the same rules of engagement, if one can call it that,
>is
>>> recommended by some concerned parties in the USA too. Have a look:
>>> https://nestwatch.org/connect/news/nest-photography-guidelines/
>>>
>>> Interesting comparison to whales. Bit of a paradox with Sea World,
>isn't
>>> it?
>>>
>>> Btw, did you read about the "tame" beluga whale with a harness that
>>> showed up on Norwegian shores this winter? It was clearly seeking
>>> contact and being very accustomed to taking food from human hands.
>Rumor
>>> has it that Russians have a programme to train belugas for
>underwater
>>> recon and scooping up mines, among other things.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>https://www.dw.com/en/mystery-whale-found-near-norway-fuels-russian-navy-speculation/a-48536688
>>>
>>> There's some added photography relevance there in that Audun
>Rikardsen,
>>> the professor quoted in the article is himself a champion of the BBC
>>> Nature Photo Contest a few years ago.
>>>
>>> Jostein
>>>
>>>

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OT Geso Lynde Park

[David J Brooks]

Friday i took off from my lunch duties and went with two other
photographers to Lynde Park Conservation are near Lake Ontario. Its a well
used area, but quiet,  and the birds and animals are pretty use to people.
Classes hold field trips to study nature.

So Anyway a small gallery of shots

www.caughtinmotion.com/2019-lynde1/album/index.html

Nikon D7200, 70-200 VR F2.8, minor LR6 adjustments on a few

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Re: New toy, lens adapter question

[Steve Cottrell]

On 2/6/19, Steve Cottrell, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I use Kiwifotos adapters - well made and reliable - faultless.

There's a few shots of them on this page:



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Re: PESO feeding time

[Jostein Øksne]

We seem to be in violent agreement, Dan. I just adviced Larry to be 
candid about presenting his photos, that's all.


Another funny comparison between countries could be perspectives on 
photographing nudity, but we've opened that can of worms enough times 
already, haven't we. :-)


Jostein

Den 02.06.2019 14:35, skrev Daniel J. Matyola:

Jostein, the way Larry has set things up does not seem to be bothering the
birds or interfering with their natural behavior.
As he points out, they keep returning to that spot year after year.

I had some sparrows build a nest under one of the eaves of our house, on
top of a floodlight.  Unfortunately, the position made it impossible to
look into the nest, or even attempt a photograph, without getting up on a
ladder right next to it, which I would never consider doing.

BTW, at almost all of the eagle cams, the naturalists go in to tag the
nestlings, before they are able to fly away.  It is interesting to learn
that some of our local chick from here in New Jersey found their way up to
New England.  Raptor protection groups claim to gather important
information about the birds from studying both the nests and the later
travels of the birds.

My reference to whales goes back to when I visited you in Oslo, many years
ago.  Among many other things, we discussed the Nordic and America views on
Wale conservation.  You pointed out the importance of the wales in the
Scandinavia cultures, and I remarked that even in the US we recognize the
native cultural needs of the Northwest Alaskan peoples, who are for the
most part exempt from the bans on hunting and eating wales.

On our first trip to Hawai'i, back in the 1980s, my son was
enthusiastically looking forward to riding jet skis in the pacific.  Short
visits to the Sierra Club and the Pacific Wale Foundation put a quick end
to that, and converted him to an avid conservationist.  Maui has a lot of
coast watchers, who sit on the lanais (balconies) of their condos peering
through binoculars hour after hour, and reporting any boats who approach
the wales too closely.  The wales their are most sensitive, as there are
many newborn calves.  There is nothing near Maui for the wales to eat, so
they fast from the time they leave the Alaskan waters, 3,000 miles away,
until they return months later.  Like many mainland tourists, all they do
during their Hawai'ian vacation is breed, give birth, and teach the young
to swim.

Yes, the "Russian spy" beluga received extensive coverage in the US.
Belugas are among the most frequently mistreated of marine animals, because
their size, intelligence and friendliness makes them easy to exploit.  The
recent NatGeo article on animal tourism covers that (and other travesties).

Sea World and similar operations are quite controversial today.  Under
great public pressure, Sea World ended its Orca breeding program, and has
promised to phase out the "Shamu" type circuses.  We will see.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 7:26 AM Jostein Øksne  wrote:


Nest cameras are a different kettle of fish, Dan. They are automated and
can be set up before the birds settle in. Especially with the large
birds of prey which conveniently return to the same nest year after
year. It is the photographer's presence by the nest that cause the
disturbance more than the picture-taking itself.

It seems that the same rules of engagement, if one can call it that, is
recommended by some concerned parties in the USA too. Have a look:
https://nestwatch.org/connect/news/nest-photography-guidelines/

Interesting comparison to whales. Bit of a paradox with Sea World, isn't
it?

Btw, did you read about the "tame" beluga whale with a harness that
showed up on Norwegian shores this winter? It was clearly seeking
contact and being very accustomed to taking food from human hands. Rumor
has it that Russians have a programme to train belugas for underwater
recon and scooping up mines, among other things.


https://www.dw.com/en/mystery-whale-found-near-norway-fuels-russian-navy-speculation/a-48536688

There's some added photography relevance there in that Audun Rikardsen,
the professor quoted in the article is himself a champion of the BBC
Nature Photo Contest a few years ago.

Jostein




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Re: GESO (7) - Madrid

[Daniel J. Matyola]

While Madrid is a great city, there are other places in Spain that I
enjoyed even more, especially Toledo, Cordoba and Sevilla.  I was, however,
disappointed by the Costa del Sol.  Even in early May, it was too cold to
swim, and the ocean seemed to be lines with English pubs and German beer
halls.

My memories of Madrid are mostly of hanging around the Plaza Mayor,
watching the people strolling late in the evening and the many great tapas
bars.

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On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 8:08 AM Paul Stenquist 
wrote:

> Nice set of a great old European city that wasn’t leveled by n the war.
>
> Paul
>
> > On Jun 1, 2019, at 4:18 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> >
> > We got back about a week ago from a very enjoyable 10 days in Spain.
> >
> > We started in Madrid; herewith the first of three modest galleries.
> >
> > https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/Spain-2019/Madrid-1/
> >
> > (Pentax K-5 and (mostly) DA17-70/4)
> >
> > Comments appreciated!
> >
> > Rick
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Re: PESO feeding time

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Jostein, the way Larry has set things up does not seem to be bothering the
birds or interfering with their natural behavior.
As he points out, they keep returning to that spot year after year.

I had some sparrows build a nest under one of the eaves of our house, on
top of a floodlight.  Unfortunately, the position made it impossible to
look into the nest, or even attempt a photograph, without getting up on a
ladder right next to it, which I would never consider doing.

BTW, at almost all of the eagle cams, the naturalists go in to tag the
nestlings, before they are able to fly away.  It is interesting to learn
that some of our local chick from here in New Jersey found their way up to
New England.  Raptor protection groups claim to gather important
information about the birds from studying both the nests and the later
travels of the birds.

My reference to whales goes back to when I visited you in Oslo, many years
ago.  Among many other things, we discussed the Nordic and America views on
Wale conservation.  You pointed out the importance of the wales in the
Scandinavia cultures, and I remarked that even in the US we recognize the
native cultural needs of the Northwest Alaskan peoples, who are for the
most part exempt from the bans on hunting and eating wales.

On our first trip to Hawai'i, back in the 1980s, my son was
enthusiastically looking forward to riding jet skis in the pacific.  Short
visits to the Sierra Club and the Pacific Wale Foundation put a quick end
to that, and converted him to an avid conservationist.  Maui has a lot of
coast watchers, who sit on the lanais (balconies) of their condos peering
through binoculars hour after hour, and reporting any boats who approach
the wales too closely.  The wales their are most sensitive, as there are
many newborn calves.  There is nothing near Maui for the wales to eat, so
they fast from the time they leave the Alaskan waters, 3,000 miles away,
until they return months later.  Like many mainland tourists, all they do
during their Hawai'ian vacation is breed, give birth, and teach the young
to swim.

Yes, the "Russian spy" beluga received extensive coverage in the US.
Belugas are among the most frequently mistreated of marine animals, because
their size, intelligence and friendliness makes them easy to exploit.  The
recent NatGeo article on animal tourism covers that (and other travesties).

Sea World and similar operations are quite controversial today.  Under
great public pressure, Sea World ended its Orca breeding program, and has
promised to phase out the "Shamu" type circuses.  We will see.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 7:26 AM Jostein Øksne  wrote:

> Nest cameras are a different kettle of fish, Dan. They are automated and
> can be set up before the birds settle in. Especially with the large
> birds of prey which conveniently return to the same nest year after
> year. It is the photographer's presence by the nest that cause the
> disturbance more than the picture-taking itself.
>
> It seems that the same rules of engagement, if one can call it that, is
> recommended by some concerned parties in the USA too. Have a look:
> https://nestwatch.org/connect/news/nest-photography-guidelines/
>
> Interesting comparison to whales. Bit of a paradox with Sea World, isn't
> it?
>
> Btw, did you read about the "tame" beluga whale with a harness that
> showed up on Norwegian shores this winter? It was clearly seeking
> contact and being very accustomed to taking food from human hands. Rumor
> has it that Russians have a programme to train belugas for underwater
> recon and scooping up mines, among other things.
>
>
> https://www.dw.com/en/mystery-whale-found-near-norway-fuels-russian-navy-speculation/a-48536688
>
> There's some added photography relevance there in that Audun Rikardsen,
> the professor quoted in the article is himself a champion of the BBC
> Nature Photo Contest a few years ago.
>
> Jostein
>
>
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Re: PESO feeding time

[Daniel J. Matyola]

That link seems to lead to an empty page, Larry.

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On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 11:58 AM Larry Colen  wrote:

>
> They've been showing up every year for about four years now, so what I'm
> doing doesn't really seem to be bothering them.
>
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/search/?text=steller_id=99496143%40N00_search=1_all=1
> >
>
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Re: PESO feeding time

[Daniel J. Matyola]

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On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 11:58 AM Larry Colen  wrote:

>
>
> Jostein Øksne wrote on 5/31/19 2:07 AM:
> > Looks like a fun project, Larry.
>
> They've been showing up every year for about four years now, so what I'm
> doing doesn't really seem to be bothering them.
>
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/search/?text=steller_id=99496143%40N00_search=1_all=1
> >
> > Nest photography is an amazing way to learn about bird behaviour. Be
> > candid about how you present the photos in various settings though. I
> > guess you know that nest photography is a controversial issue. From a
> > quick web search it seems less so in the US than here, but in this
> > globalised day and age... :-)
>
> I've never heard anything about it in general.  I guess it's considered
> rude to pester them in their nest.  These were photographed from my
> living room. If jays were any more common around here, they'd be
> pigeons, particularly obnoxiously loud pigeons.
> >
> > In the Nordic countries it is generally discouraged. In Finland, it's
> > illegal without a license for a particular project, punishable by fines
> > based on publised photos. In Norway and Sweden, it's more about mob
> > justice. There is a very large overlap between nature photographers and
> > birdwatchers in general, so birds are in particular focus for ethical
> > issues (which currently extends to a massive opposition to wind
> > turbines, btw).
> >
> > Jostein
> >
> > Den 31.05.2019 08:46, skrev Larry Colen:
> >> I set up a light that really helps with the photos of the Steller's
> >> jay nest.  Shortly thereafter the second parent (my guess is Dadbird)
> >> showed up to feed everyone.  Here's a shot with both parents, and
> >> several chicks visible
> >>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/47970534238/in/album-72157708849514267/
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm uploading the full set now. It seems as if the new flickr
> >> infrastructure isn't quite back up to full speed. If anyone's
> >> interested in the full set, which also has some shots of one of the
> >> parents in my yard:
> >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157708849514267
> >>
> >
>
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Re: GESO (7) - Madrid

[Paul Stenquist]

Nice set of a great old European city that wasn’t leveled by n the war.

Paul

> On Jun 1, 2019, at 4:18 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> We got back about a week ago from a very enjoyable 10 days in Spain. 
> 
> We started in Madrid; herewith the first of three modest galleries.
> 
> https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/Spain-2019/Madrid-1/
> 
> (Pentax K-5 and (mostly) DA17-70/4)
> 
> Comments appreciated!
> 
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Re: Doug (and other musicians) at the Portland Lindy Exchange

[Daniel J. Matyola]

That is a fine portrait, full of character.

I also like 629, 637 and 751 very much

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On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 5:43 AM Larry Colen  wrote:

> I finally got through my photos of musicians at the Portland Lindy
> Exchange last month and got the better ones posted to flickr.
>
> This one of Doug Sammons playing with the Bridgetown sextet is one of my
> favorites:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/47984205508/in/album-72157708883120871/
>
> The full album is here:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157708883120871?fbclid=IwAR0HlXE8CxkSeec_2CDCZ97ex4AI_tYkM9VENu6sIEUaSwvBEbiMQXZ30P8
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> The music all weekend was awesome.
>
> C on the photos is appreciated, as always.
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Re: PESO feeding time

[Jostein Øksne]

Nest cameras are a different kettle of fish, Dan. They are automated and 
can be set up before the birds settle in. Especially with the large 
birds of prey which conveniently return to the same nest year after 
year. It is the photographer's presence by the nest that cause the 
disturbance more than the picture-taking itself.


It seems that the same rules of engagement, if one can call it that, is 
recommended by some concerned parties in the USA too. Have a look: 
https://nestwatch.org/connect/news/nest-photography-guidelines/


Interesting comparison to whales. Bit of a paradox with Sea World, isn't it?

Btw, did you read about the "tame" beluga whale with a harness that 
showed up on Norwegian shores this winter? It was clearly seeking 
contact and being very accustomed to taking food from human hands. Rumor 
has it that Russians have a programme to train belugas for underwater 
recon and scooping up mines, among other things.


https://www.dw.com/en/mystery-whale-found-near-norway-fuels-russian-navy-speculation/a-48536688

There's some added photography relevance there in that Audun Rikardsen, 
the professor quoted in the article is himself a champion of the BBC 
Nature Photo Contest a few years ago.


Jostein

Den 31.05.2019 15:18, skrev Daniel J. Matyola:

Interesting comments, Jostein.
In the US there are many nest cameras, especially those of the nests of
eagles and other raptors.  I have never seen the kind of negative reaction
of which you speak, nor have I head of any laws such as you describe.
It sounds like the Scandinavians feel about their birds the way Americans
feel about whales.

Dan Matyola
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On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 5:08 AM Jostein Øksne  wrote:


Looks like a fun project, Larry.

Nest photography is an amazing way to learn about bird behaviour. Be
candid about how you present the photos in various settings though. I
guess you know that nest photography is a controversial issue. From a
quick web search it seems less so in the US than here, but in this
globalised day and age... :-)

In the Nordic countries it is generally discouraged. In Finland, it's
illegal without a license for a particular project, punishable by fines
based on publised photos. In Norway and Sweden, it's more about mob
justice. There is a very large overlap between nature photographers and
birdwatchers in general, so birds are in particular focus for ethical
issues (which currently extends to a massive opposition to wind
turbines, btw).

Jostein

Den 31.05.2019 08:46, skrev Larry Colen:

I set up a light that really helps with the photos of the Steller's
jay nest.  Shortly thereafter the second parent (my guess is Dadbird)
showed up to feed everyone.  Here's a shot with both parents, and
several chicks visible


https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/47970534238/in/album-72157708849514267/


I'm uploading the full set now. It seems as if the new flickr
infrastructure isn't quite back up to full speed. If anyone's
interested in the full set, which also has some shots of one of the
parents in my yard:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157708849514267


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Re: New toy, lens adapter question

[Steve Cottrell]

On 1/6/19, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I was pretty stoked today to be given a new (to me) toy, an Olympus 
>E-PL1, with a 17/2.8 and a 14-42. I know that there are a couple people 
>on the list who also have a foot in the u4/3 world.  Does anyone have 
>recommendations for lens adapters?  I've got a bunch of K-mount, manual 
>focus Minolta and some old Nikon glass lying around.

I use Kiwifotos adapters - well made and reliable - faultless.



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Re: SD cards

[Larry Colen]

Igor PDML-StR wrote on 5/28/19 6:45 PM:


Larry,

I've written some thoughts on this almost exactly 1 year ago:
http://pdml.net/pipermail/pdml_pdml.net/2018-May/445228.html


I stumbled across this article today:

https://alikgriffin.com/best-memory-cards-pentax-k-1/

I ended up going with a couple of these:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H4BPZZG/

at $60 for 1/4 TB.  Yeah, I'm gobsmacked, not only by the cost, but by 
the size.


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Doug (and other musicians) at the Portland Lindy Exchange

[Larry Colen]

I finally got through my photos of musicians at the Portland Lindy 
Exchange last month and got the better ones posted to flickr.


This one of Doug Sammons playing with the Bridgetown sextet is one of my 
favorites:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/47984205508/in/album-72157708883120871/

The full album is here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157708883120871?fbclid=IwAR0HlXE8CxkSeec_2CDCZ97ex4AI_tYkM9VENu6sIEUaSwvBEbiMQXZ30P8

The music all weekend was awesome.

C on the photos is appreciated, as always.

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Re: New toy, lens adapter question

[Larry Colen]

Brian W wrote on 6/2/19 12:16 AM:

I bought a few cheap adapters of ebay - K mount, Konica, M42 - they all do the
job well enough but I've never found using adapted lenses much fun. Apart from a
Konica macro lens, I haven't used any other adapted lenses regularly even though
I have lots.


Thanks for the info


Focus peaking helps but does the E-PL1 have that?


No it doesn't.

Thanks for the info.  So, maybe I'll drop $20 on an adapter, but it 
seems a lot less urgent.



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Re: New toy, lens adapter question

[Brian W]

I bought a few cheap adapters of ebay - K mount, Konica, M42 - they all do the
job well enough but I've never found using adapted lenses much fun. Apart from a
Konica macro lens, I haven't used any other adapted lenses regularly even though
I have lots.

Focus peaking helps but does the E-PL1 have that?


Cheers

Brian

> On 02 June 2019 at 15:49 Larry Colen  wrote:
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> 
> I was pretty stoked today to be given a new (to me) toy, an Olympus 
> E-PL1, with a 17/2.8 and a 14-42. I know that there are a couple people 
> on the list who also have a foot in the u4/3 world.  Does anyone have 
> recommendations for lens adapters?  I've got a bunch of K-mount, manual 
> focus Minolta and some old Nikon glass lying around.
> 
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