Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

[Larry Colen]

> On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:41 PM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also makes a 
> decent club, for self defense.

That thought has crossed my mind. Without the ballhead, and with all but the 
smallest section extended it has similar size, weight, balance and handling to 
a bokken, though I hesitate to consider how well the carbon fiber would hold up 
to actually striking anything with it.

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OT steak and potatoes

[Larry Colen]

Got into a discussion about dinner tonight. I kind of like how this phone snap 
turned out

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Chb2BGtm8iVzE3mU6

I’ve been experimenting with my own version of hash browns.  Tonight I ran two 
potatoes and an onion through the grater on the food processor, mixed with 
olive oil then precooked them in the microwave for 15 minutes or so. I browned 
them in a skillet, and when I had carmelized a sufficient percentage melted 
some extra sharp cheddar (coastal from costco) over them.  I figure that 
they’re mental health food.
FWIW, the salad is out of the frame to camera left, and the fruit I had with 
dinner is in the background.

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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

[P. J. Alling]

That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also 
makes a decent club, for self defense.


On 11/25/2020 1:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



On Nov 25, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:

Use a bean bag…

I use a monopod with a ball head and hang it from my belt using a maglight 
holster

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bfko83dh4sFfu5Lg7

It doubles as a nice walking stick.


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Re: Enablement!

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 02.12.20 um 23:37 schrieb P. J. Alling:


Back to my original point.  I just received my "new", refurbished
actually, Sigma 10-20mm f3.5 from KEH.com


I have the slightly slower version for a number of years and I'm still
quite fond of it.

Coincidentally, I've just posted a photo taken with it on fotocommunity,
earlier tonight.

https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/baelskaai-fotoralfbe/44603350


So why didn't I get the Pentax DA* 11-18 f2.8 or Pentax DA 12-24 f4.0?


I was before the same dilemma at the time, well for me it was the Pentax
12-24 mm. A search for my usual kind of night shots taken with the
Pentax lens on various sites revealed some strong tendency to flare
around spotlights etc. so the Sigma lens won out and I've never looked back.

Ralf

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Enablement!

[P. J. Alling]

Fun fact, Thunderbird wants to correct Enablement to Enfeeblement, could 
be more right than I want to admit.


Back to my original point.  I just received my "new", refurbished 
actually, Sigma 10-20mm f3.5 from KEH.com along with a Pentax silver 
(MZ/ZX), strap, with snap pockets, which are just the right size for SD 
cards.  Both are now proudly on my K-3.  It's a late birthday present 
early Christmas present to myself.


I'll post a mini review after I have a chance to play with it a bit.

However, my first impression is pretty favorable.  This lens is one fat 
stubby little sucker.  The finish is typical Sigma, feels solid in the 
hand, rubberized everywhere,  focus and zoom rings are well damped, 
there are no hard stops on the focus ring.


Just off the bat, it would be nice if there was a mark on the zoom ring 
where the lens is at it's minimum physical length since that's somewhere 
between the 17mm and 14mm focal length marks.


I've fired a couple of shots using the K-3 just to see if everything is 
working correctly and it seems to be.


So why didn't I get the Pentax DA* 11-18 f2.8 or Pentax DA 12-24 f4.0?  
Well price of  course in the case of the former.  The KEH.com 
refurbished Sigma was Less than a quarter the cost.   The 12-24 has now 
become difficult to find, and the price for a "New" Sigma lens was 
outstanding so  I have a new adventure.


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Re: OT: Viewbug

[Toine]

Uploaded one photo and after some digging I found it. No way to change
the title. Only option is to participate in challenges. Contests are
paid subscription only. It all feels a little strange. Instagram is
the king of strangeness.
Many years ago I tried 1x.com and they managed to piss me off with
their curation bla bla. Removing photo's from 1x.com results in a
lifetime ban which was the primary reason to remove all my photo's.

I now use 500px on and off and haven't decided on instagram.

On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 at 21:33, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
>
>
>
> HAR!
>
> That reminded me of “I don’t want to belong to any club that will accept
> me as a member”.
>
> Fun fact: That quote is attributed to Groucho Marx (circa 1949), but
> apparently it was printed much earlier: in "The Chicago Daily
> Tribune" in 1891 (and then other newspapers):
> “...  I don’t want to have anything to do with a company that would take
> a risk on me.”
> https://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/04/18/groucho-resigns/
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Igor
>
>
>
>
> Daniel J. Matyola Tue, 01 Dec 2020 11:17:53 -0800 wrote:
>
> MARK!
>
> Dan Matyola
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>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 2:13 PM Bruce Walker 
> wrote:
>
> > It's unlikely that a popular
> > photography site, having seen my photos, would still want to feature
> > them.
> >
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Re: DxO Photolab 4 - the verdict

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 02.12.20 um 21:56 schrieb l...@red4est.com:


Also my oldest Pentax is a k100, is that supported?


The oldest I've been able to find was the K200D. Here's their list:

https://www.dxo.com/dxo-photolab/supported-cameras/


Would you be able to sell your license?


No idea.

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Re: DxO Photolab 4 - the verdict

[lrc]

I never assumed that I would stay with lightroom so each shoot is in a separate 
directory, with the name based on date, and some using a directory tree.  So I 
don't have any huge directories.  
Also my oldest Pentax is a k100, is that supported?

Would you be able to sell your license?

On December 2, 2020 10:19:00 AM PST, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
>Am 02.12.20 um 19:01 schrieb Mark Roberts:
>
>> Shouldn't you be able to convert older raw files into DNG and use
>them
>> that way? I do this with all my raw files anyway.
>
>Radio Yerevan: In principle yes. But I'd still be left with its slow
>speed and missing ability to handle large directories.
>
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Re: OT: Viewbug

[Igor PDML-StR]

HAR!

That reminded me of “I don’t want to belong to any club that will accept 
me as a member”.


Fun fact: That quote is attributed to Groucho Marx (circa 1949), but 
apparently it was printed much earlier: in "The Chicago Daily 
Tribune" in 1891 (and then other newspapers):
“...  I don’t want to have anything to do with a company that would take 
a risk on me.”

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/04/18/groucho-resigns/


Cheers,

Igor




Daniel J. Matyola Tue, 01 Dec 2020 11:17:53 -0800 wrote:

MARK!

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On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 2:13 PM Bruce Walker  
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It's unlikely that a popular
photography site, having seen my photos, would still want to feature
them.



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Re: DxO Photolab 4 - the verdict

[P. J. Alling]

Actually if it works the way DxO Optics Pro does that won't work.  It 
reads the tags in the file and won't open a DNG from a camera or 
converted from a RAW file from that camera that it doesn't have a module 
within their framework that supports it.


On 12/2/2020 1:01 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Ralf R Radermacher wrote:


Am 02.12.20 um 18:00 schrieb l...@red4est.com:

Thanks for the review. I was really hoping there was a good alternative to 
lightroom

The output quality is OK.

As long as your directories don't have more than, say, a few hundred
files and your camera is a K10D or later then it is usable.

Shouldn't you be able to convert older raw files into DNG and use them
that way? I do this with all my raw files anyway.
  


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Re: DxO Photolab 4 - the verdict

[P. J. Alling]

That's interesting, I'm using DxO Optics Pro 9, which is the predecessor 
to DxO Photolab, which has all the perspective control built in.


Photolab seems to be a distinct step back in functionality, in that regard.

The lack of support for earlier cameras is annoying but I've kept a 
couple of older tools available to work on *ist-D/Ds files when I need 
to, so I've gotten used to that aspect.


You could look into one of the "Free" open source offerings.  Raw 
Therapee looks promising, but I'd describe it as the Brazil of the raw 
converters it's thew future of digital photography and always will be.


On 12/2/2020 12:31 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 02.12.20 um 18:00 schrieb l...@red4est.com:
Thanks for the review. I was really hoping there was a good 
alternative to lightroom


The output quality is OK.

As long as your directories don't have more than, say, a few hundred
files and your camera is a K10D or later then it is usable.

That said, I find it lags far behind even my old LR6 concerning its
database functions, overall it is slower than LR6 and the perspective
control has to be bought as a separate product.

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Re: OT PESO: asian brown flycatcher

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Cute little guy, well photographed!

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On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 4:10 AM Subash Jeyan  wrote:

> a cute little bird which lives in the himalayas and spends the winter
> in the warm climate of south india. smaller than a sparrow.
>
>
> http://something-feathered.in/2020/12/02/asian-brown-flycatcher/
>
> taken with a friend's canon G3 X, @ 600mm on a dark and cloudy day.
> cropped.
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Re: DxO Photolab 4 - the verdict

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 02.12.20 um 19:01 schrieb Mark Roberts:


Shouldn't you be able to convert older raw files into DNG and use them
that way? I do this with all my raw files anyway.


Radio Yerevan: In principle yes. But I'd still be left with its slow
speed and missing ability to handle large directories.

Ralf

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Re: DxO Photolab 4 - the verdict

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Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

>Am 02.12.20 um 18:00 schrieb l...@red4est.com:
>> Thanks for the review. I was really hoping there was a good alternative to 
>> lightroom
>
>The output quality is OK.
>
>As long as your directories don't have more than, say, a few hundred
>files and your camera is a K10D or later then it is usable.

Shouldn't you be able to convert older raw files into DNG and use them
that way? I do this with all my raw files anyway.
 
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Re: DxO Photolab 4 - the verdict

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 02.12.20 um 18:00 schrieb l...@red4est.com:

Thanks for the review. I was really hoping there was a good alternative to 
lightroom


The output quality is OK.

As long as your directories don't have more than, say, a few hundred
files and your camera is a K10D or later then it is usable.

That said, I find it lags far behind even my old LR6 concerning its
database functions, overall it is slower than LR6 and the perspective
control has to be bought as a separate product.

Ralf

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Re: DxO Photolab 4 - the verdict

[lrc]

Thanks for the review. I was really hoping there was a good alternative to 
lightroom

On December 2, 2020 8:36:51 AM PST, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
>I've been playing around with their demo version for a while, using a
>selection of raw files on another drive to avoid messing up my 'real'
>data.
>
>The results looked promising, so I was lured by their Black Friday
>offer
>into buying the actual product plus DxO ViewPoint, a separately sold
>add-on doing what every other RAW converter software has as built-in
>functions to correct converging verticals etc.
>
>After registering both products, I started working with my normal RAW
>file directories and had to find that, much like ON1 Photo RAW, it
>almost comes to a grinding halt when dealing with my - admittedly
>rather
>large - directories. As a result, it is totally unusable for my
>purposes, unless I'd completely reorganise my files and directories.
>
>Also, I found out too late that DxO Photolab doesn't read any Pentax
>RAW
>files from cameras older than the K10D, e.g. not those from my *istDS.
>
>Attempts to solve these problems with their customer support have been
>answered with a few prefab text modules of no help whatsoever.
>
>After a similar experience with ON1, where they at least refunded the
>purchase price without any further questions, I contacted DxO again,
>explaining the situation and asking for a refund.
>
>In doing so via their web form, I had to enter a subject for my
>message,
>with "Refund" offered as one of the few options. This produced a popup
>window that should have appeared *before* taking my money: they don't
>grant any refunds once the customer has entered the registration code
>into the software. I asked anyway and the answer was as expected.
>
>So, I've just written off 160 euros and will be still more careful next
>time I buy anything online. The rest of the night I'll be spending
>trying to remove DxO Photolab and all the little droppings it has left
>all over my photo directories.
>
>Oh, and next time you buy a car, make sure to check that the
>manufacturer doesn't have a list somewhere that says it will not run on
>petrol from Texaco.
>
>Ralf
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DxO Photolab 4 - the verdict

[Ralf R Radermacher]

I've been playing around with their demo version for a while, using a
selection of raw files on another drive to avoid messing up my 'real' data.

The results looked promising, so I was lured by their Black Friday offer
into buying the actual product plus DxO ViewPoint, a separately sold
add-on doing what every other RAW converter software has as built-in
functions to correct converging verticals etc.

After registering both products, I started working with my normal RAW
file directories and had to find that, much like ON1 Photo RAW, it
almost comes to a grinding halt when dealing with my - admittedly rather
large - directories. As a result, it is totally unusable for my
purposes, unless I'd completely reorganise my files and directories.

Also, I found out too late that DxO Photolab doesn't read any Pentax RAW
files from cameras older than the K10D, e.g. not those from my *istDS.

Attempts to solve these problems with their customer support have been
answered with a few prefab text modules of no help whatsoever.

After a similar experience with ON1, where they at least refunded the
purchase price without any further questions, I contacted DxO again,
explaining the situation and asking for a refund.

In doing so via their web form, I had to enter a subject for my message,
with "Refund" offered as one of the few options. This produced a popup
window that should have appeared *before* taking my money: they don't
grant any refunds once the customer has entered the registration code
into the software. I asked anyway and the answer was as expected.

So, I've just written off 160 euros and will be still more careful next
time I buy anything online. The rest of the night I'll be spending
trying to remove DxO Photolab and all the little droppings it has left
all over my photo directories.

Oh, and next time you buy a car, make sure to check that the
manufacturer doesn't have a list somewhere that says it will not run on
petrol from Texaco.

Ralf

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Re: OT PESO: asian brown flycatcher

[Paul Stenquist]

Well done. Nicely framed.

Paul

> On Dec 2, 2020, at 4:10 AM, Subash Jeyan  wrote:
> 
> a cute little bird which lives in the himalayas and spends the winter
> in the warm climate of south india. smaller than a sparrow.
> 
> 
> http://something-feathered.in/2020/12/02/asian-brown-flycatcher/
> 
> taken with a friend's canon G3 X, @ 600mm on a dark and cloudy day.
> cropped.
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Re: OT - Jolie Brise

[lrc]

I can imagine. I was talking with someone on the ocean 360 project and realized 
that for a steady platform you'd almost need a submersible with a camera on a 
high mast above the water.

On December 2, 2020 12:16:36 AM PST, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
>On 1/12/20, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>I was wondering how you got all the shots from off the boat then I
>>noticed that the motorboat in tow you see in the onboard shots isn't
>>visible in the offboard shots.
>
>I did 2 day trips, one they had a small inflatable tender but it was so
>bumpy that hardly anything was usable. I also went for half a day to an
>area where we planned for them to sail past a few times so i could get
>some steady shots from the tripod. The other material of the yacht in
>high seas was filmed some years ago by someone on a 5D and there was
>only a small amount I could use of that. I've filmed boat-to-boat many
>times and without the right equipement - both marine and image
>recording, it's not easy.
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OT PESO: asian brown flycatcher

[Subash Jeyan]

a cute little bird which lives in the himalayas and spends the winter
in the warm climate of south india. smaller than a sparrow.


http://something-feathered.in/2020/12/02/asian-brown-flycatcher/

taken with a friend's canon G3 X, @ 600mm on a dark and cloudy day.
cropped.

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Re: PESO: sunbird

[Subash Jeyan]

thank you Ann. this one never sits still long enough to pose. i got
lucky :)

thanks to everyone who looked or commented.


On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 17:36:16 -0500
ann sanfedele  wrote:

> Nice to have such a pretty little fellow "common" in one's area..
> nice grab, Subash.. he posed for you
> 
> ann

> > https://something-feathered.in/2020/11/29/purple-rumped-sunbird-2/



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Re: OT - Jolie Brise

[Steve Cottrell]

On 1/12/20, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I was wondering how you got all the shots from off the boat then I
>noticed that the motorboat in tow you see in the onboard shots isn't
>visible in the offboard shots.

I did 2 day trips, one they had a small inflatable tender but it was so bumpy 
that hardly anything was usable. I also went for half a day to an area where we 
planned for them to sail past a few times so i could get some steady shots from 
the tripod. The other material of the yacht in high seas was filmed some years 
ago by someone on a 5D and there was only a small amount I could use of that. 
I've filmed boat-to-boat many times and without the right equipement - both 
marine and image recording, it's not easy.




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Re: OT - Jolie Brise

[Steve Cottrell]

On 1/12/20, Bob Pdml, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Nah, he just walks v quickly on the water next to the boat...

Borrowed your shoes ;-)




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