Re: PKA -> E

[P. J. Alling]

Not nearly as full featured in fact it looks like a simple dumb adapter, 
and Fotasy adapters are even less expensive through Amazon.


On 7/24/2021 5:39 PM, Bill wrote:

https://www.kentfaith.com/KF06.075_pentax-pk-to-sony-nex-e-mount-adapter?cur=cad=Cj0KCQjw9O6HBhCrARIsADx5qCSt4xPkvF7iBytskPcLUTUlF-lQwJB51TWLd5OkImOfV_752l31rhEaArSsEALw_wcB

On Fri., Jul. 23, 2021, 1:33 p.m. ,  wrote:


To use my lenses on an e-mount body is there a less-expensive yet
full-featured adapter alternative to the Monster?


https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1627137-REG/monster_adapter_la_ke1_pe
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Re: PKA -> E

[P. J. Alling]

I assume that the adapter is made of the more expensive mechanical 
parts, and at a much lower volume so there would be a much lower return 
due to the economics of scale.  That is unless you have good numbers on 
the quantity of Sony users who see serious quality in Pentax Auto Focus 
lenses.


On 7/24/2021 2:24 PM, John wrote:
K-70 is only about a hundred dollars more than the adapter $546.95 vs 
$439.00 for the adapter.


On 7/24/2021 11:53:09, P. J. Alling wrote:
You know, sometimes I know what I'm talking about.  (Too bad the 
quotes list is gone...)


On 7/24/2021 7:42 AM, Alan C wrote:
Thanks John. Now I understand why PJ says you're buying a third of a 
K-70!


Alan C

On 24-Jul-21 07:57 AM, John Francis wrote:
I assume there's a motor in the adapter (drawing power from the 
camera).
The first two pictures (the lens-facing side) show a screw-drive 
shaft,

and also the two contacts that could provide power and digital signals
for newer AF lenses, and may even provide power for power zoom lenses!
I'd guess there would also need to be a microprocessor to translate
between the various signalling protocols, but that's not going to add
a whole lot to the cost.


On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 06:50:45AM +0200, Alan C wrote:

How on earth is screw drive AF possible?

Alan C

On 23-Jul-21 09:43 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
I've never seen one so expensive before, but then again I've 
never seen

an adapter that also adapts screw drive AF either.

I kind of doubt that you'll find anything cheaper that actually will
auto focus a K mount lens on a mirrorless body.?? You'll be 
buying about

a third of the working bits of a K-70.

On 7/23/2021 3:33 PM, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:

To use my lenses on an e-mount body is there a less-expensive yet
full-featured adapter alternative to the Monster?

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1627137-REG/monster_adapter_la_ke1_pe 



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Re: PKA -> E

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https://www.kentfaith.com/KF06.075_pentax-pk-to-sony-nex-e-mount-adapter?cur=cad=Cj0KCQjw9O6HBhCrARIsADx5qCSt4xPkvF7iBytskPcLUTUlF-lQwJB51TWLd5OkImOfV_752l31rhEaArSsEALw_wcB

On Fri., Jul. 23, 2021, 1:33 p.m. ,  wrote:

> To use my lenses on an e-mount body is there a less-expensive yet
> full-featured adapter alternative to the Monster?
>
>
> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1627137-REG/monster_adapter_la_ke1_pe
> ntax_k_to_sony.html
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Re: PKA -> E

[John]

K-70 is only about a hundred dollars more than the adapter $546.95 vs $439.00 
for the adapter.


On 7/24/2021 11:53:09, P. J. Alling wrote:
You know, sometimes I know what I'm talking about.  (Too bad the quotes list is 
gone...)


On 7/24/2021 7:42 AM, Alan C wrote:

Thanks John. Now I understand why PJ says you're buying a third of a K-70!

Alan C

On 24-Jul-21 07:57 AM, John Francis wrote:

I assume there's a motor in the adapter (drawing power from the camera).
The first two pictures (the lens-facing side) show a screw-drive shaft,
and also the two contacts that could provide power and digital signals
for newer AF lenses, and may even provide power for power zoom lenses!
I'd guess there would also need to be a microprocessor to translate
between the various signalling protocols, but that's not going to add
a whole lot to the cost.


On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 06:50:45AM +0200, Alan C wrote:

How on earth is screw drive AF possible?

Alan C

On 23-Jul-21 09:43 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

I've never seen one so expensive before, but then again I've never seen
an adapter that also adapts screw drive AF either.

I kind of doubt that you'll find anything cheaper that actually will
auto focus a K mount lens on a mirrorless body.?? You'll be buying about
a third of the working bits of a K-70.

On 7/23/2021 3:33 PM, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:

To use my lenses on an e-mount body is there a less-expensive yet
full-featured adapter alternative to the Monster?

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1627137-REG/monster_adapter_la_ke1_pe

ntax_k_to_sony.html




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Re: August PUG Countdown

[John]

On 7/23/2021 13:50:40, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 23.07.21 um 18:56 schrieb John:

Same time zone GMT -5.


You sure? The time below the webcame pic shows 14.48, right now. Here,
it's 19.48 - i.e. 5 hours later - and we're on CEST = UTC +2.


That's what the time zone map I looked up showed. ... as best as I could read 
it.

Hadn't noticed the time-stamp thingy. Looking just now it's 14:07 here and 15:07 
there, so maybe they're on Atlantic Time (same as Newfoundland & Nova Scotia).





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Re: August PUG Countdown

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On 7/23/2021 13:44:20, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 23.07.21 um 18:56 schrieb John:

It was also so dark you couldn't see anything. Yet it was still light
outside around here. Same time zone GMT -5.


I suppose they're a bit further South than you. So their days are
considerably shorter. Daylight there is currently from about 9.30 to
17.40 local time.



Yeah. I know it's winter down there & day-time gets shorter in the winter. 
That's why I looked at the time zone map.


Should have been just about sunset or only slightly into the "golden hour" where 
the landscape is still lit by the sky.




Should have been around 5:00pm local time so I wonder why they didn't
have any lights on at the station?


This is a tourist railway. They close around 16.00 local time.



No security lights?


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Re: PKA -> E

[John Francis]

I was curious, and with Google's help actually found out a bit more.
There are apparently two motors in the adapter (I have no idea why).
And although the contacts, etc., seem to be there, the manufacturer
says that this adapter doesn't support using SDM lenses.

On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 01:42:16PM +0200, Alan C wrote:
> Thanks John. Now I understand why PJ says you're buying a third of a K-70!
> 
> Alan C
> 
> On 24-Jul-21 07:57 AM, John Francis wrote:
> > I assume there's a motor in the adapter (drawing power from the camera).
> > The first two pictures (the lens-facing side) show a screw-drive shaft,
> > and also the two contacts that could provide power and digital signals
> > for newer AF lenses, and may even provide power for power zoom lenses!
> > I'd guess there would also need to be a microprocessor to translate
> > between the various signalling protocols, but that's not going to add
> > a whole lot to the cost.
> > 
> > 
> > On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 06:50:45AM +0200, Alan C wrote:
> > > How on earth is screw drive AF possible?
> > > 
> > > Alan C
> > > 
> > > On 23-Jul-21 09:43 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
> > > > I've never seen one so expensive before, but then again I've never seen
> > > > an adapter that also adapts screw drive AF either.
> > > > 
> > > > I kind of doubt that you'll find anything cheaper that actually will
> > > > auto focus a K mount lens on a mirrorless body.?? You'll be buying about
> > > > a third of the working bits of a K-70.
> > > > 
> > > > On 7/23/2021 3:33 PM, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:
> > > > > To use my lenses on an e-mount body is there a less-expensive yet
> > > > > full-featured adapter alternative to the Monster?
> > > > > 
> > > > > https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1627137-REG/monster_adapter_la_ke1_pe
> > > > > 
> > > > > ntax_k_to_sony.html
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
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Re: PKA -> E

[P. J. Alling]

You know, sometimes I know what I'm talking about.  (Too bad the quotes 
list is gone...)


On 7/24/2021 7:42 AM, Alan C wrote:
Thanks John. Now I understand why PJ says you're buying a third of a 
K-70!


Alan C

On 24-Jul-21 07:57 AM, John Francis wrote:

I assume there's a motor in the adapter (drawing power from the camera).
The first two pictures (the lens-facing side) show a screw-drive shaft,
and also the two contacts that could provide power and digital signals
for newer AF lenses, and may even provide power for power zoom lenses!
I'd guess there would also need to be a microprocessor to translate
between the various signalling protocols, but that's not going to add
a whole lot to the cost.


On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 06:50:45AM +0200, Alan C wrote:

How on earth is screw drive AF possible?

Alan C

On 23-Jul-21 09:43 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
I've never seen one so expensive before, but then again I've never 
seen

an adapter that also adapts screw drive AF either.

I kind of doubt that you'll find anything cheaper that actually will
auto focus a K mount lens on a mirrorless body.?? You'll be buying 
about

a third of the working bits of a K-70.

On 7/23/2021 3:33 PM, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:

To use my lenses on an e-mount body is there a less-expensive yet
full-featured adapter alternative to the Monster?

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1627137-REG/monster_adapter_la_ke1_pe 



ntax_k_to_sony.html




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Re: PKA -> E

[Alan C]

Thanks John. Now I understand why PJ says you're buying a third of a K-70!

Alan C

On 24-Jul-21 07:57 AM, John Francis wrote:

I assume there's a motor in the adapter (drawing power from the camera).
The first two pictures (the lens-facing side) show a screw-drive shaft,
and also the two contacts that could provide power and digital signals
for newer AF lenses, and may even provide power for power zoom lenses!
I'd guess there would also need to be a microprocessor to translate
between the various signalling protocols, but that's not going to add
a whole lot to the cost.


On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 06:50:45AM +0200, Alan C wrote:

How on earth is screw drive AF possible?

Alan C

On 23-Jul-21 09:43 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

I've never seen one so expensive before, but then again I've never seen
an adapter that also adapts screw drive AF either.

I kind of doubt that you'll find anything cheaper that actually will
auto focus a K mount lens on a mirrorless body.?? You'll be buying about
a third of the working bits of a K-70.

On 7/23/2021 3:33 PM, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:

To use my lenses on an e-mount body is there a less-expensive yet
full-featured adapter alternative to the Monster?

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1627137-REG/monster_adapter_la_ke1_pe

ntax_k_to_sony.html




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