Re: PDML - PDFG ?

[mike wilson]

> On 07/01/2023 01:42 Bill  wrote:
> 
>  
> On 1/6/2023 6:47 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
> > Oh really?
> >
> > Here’s a test:
> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/groups/482940207253506
> >
> > See if it garners any interest…
> >
> > If not, it will be killed off.
> >
> > Just a thought.
> >
> > Cotty
> Sorry Steve, not going anywhere near crackbook.

Nor me.  I like the fact that there is very little white noise here, even 
though thread drift is almost a requisite.  Without accepting that I am a 
victim of confirmation bias, it's no coincidence that the only other online 
forum that I frequent is a private, invitation only one.
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Re: PDML - PDFG ?

[John Francis]

On Sat, Jan 07, 2023 at 12:30:07AM +, Steve Cottrell wrote:
> Just as a matter of interest, is there any interest in a Pentax Discussion 
> Facebook Group?

Not from me.  I don't (and won't) do facebook - I just find far too annoying.

But there again I'm not doing a lot of Pentax stuff nowadays, either.
Probably the most interesting thing I'll do here is post a 'for sale'
list - I'm working up to selling my A* and FA* lenses (A* 300/2.8,
FA* 80-200/2.8 & 250-600/5.6) once I've worked out just how much 
(or how little) they should go for.

I'm holding on to the DA* zooms for a while (16-50, 50-135, 60-250),
and the K-5 still works just fine, but quite honestly I'll probably
rarely if ever use them again.
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Re: PDML - PDFG ?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Personally, I detest FB. I only have an account there because there is a 
contingent of old friends who have seemingly lost the ability to communicate 
any other way ( including answering the telephone without messaging them on FB 
first...!). Ugh. I'm there, in essence, because I value my old friends more 
than I despise the medium of communications. 

Also, FB terms of service essentially give them 100% rights to use any 
photographs you post on their service any way they like in perpetuity with no 
compensation to photographers. I only post photos that I consider valueless 
there as a consequence. 

I've not found any motivation to participate in any of the photo groups I've 
tried there. There seems to be little real conversation of any depth in them. 

If the goal of a proposed FB group is to allow modern formatted text and photo 
sharing features in PDML communications, I would suggest moving the PDML to a 
modern list server with groups.io instead. I've helped move three other photo 
groups to this service  and it's been 100% successful, including one that 
started on FB and left due to the terms of service issues. 

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Re: PDML - PDFG ?

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I think the idea has merit.

Dan Matyola
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On Fri, Jan 6, 2023 at 7:30 PM Steve Cottrell  wrote:

> Just as a matter of interest, is there any interest in a Pentax Discussion
> Facebook Group?
>
> I admin a FB group with over 800 members, it’s quite fun. Photos are
> posted daily and response is swift. Sure, you battle with the evil that is
> Meta, but if one is selective about viewing habits, it becomes a tool, just
> like camera gear…
>
> Best
>
> Cotty
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Re: OT Mail list restrictions

[Larry Colen]

Doug,

Would it be possible to loosen up the length restrictions a bit?  

It seems odd that even with wordy bastards like Bill and I it was bouncing 
messages about three long.

Bill,
You could send it to me directly:  l...@red4est.com

> On Jan 6, 2023, at 6:27 PM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> On 1/6/2023 8:24 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> 
>>> On Jan 6, 2023, at 6:22 PM, Bill  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 1/6/2023 7:21 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well Larry, I've tried twice to respond to you, both got bounces because 
>>> this list thinks 10kb is too big to post to the list.
>>> This may have made sense when everyone was on dial up, but it's a 
>>> ridiculously small number these days when everyone is on high speed 
>>> internet.
>>> It may or may not make it through eventually, but I've spent more time than 
>>> I care to in paring it down to what appears to be acceptable.
>> Yeah, we’re both a bit wordy and I should have trimmed all the cruft from 
>> earlier in the discussion.
>> 
>> Top Posting
>> What’s the biggest problem with following email conversations today?
> I tried that with my second post. It didn't help.
> 
> bill
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Re: OT Mail

[Bill]

On 1/6/2023 8:24 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



On Jan 6, 2023, at 6:22 PM, Bill  wrote:

On 1/6/2023 7:21 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

Well Larry, I've tried twice to respond to you, both got bounces because this 
list thinks 10kb is too big to post to the list.
This may have made sense when everyone was on dial up, but it's a ridiculously 
small number these days when everyone is on high speed internet.
It may or may not make it through eventually, but I've spent more time than I 
care to in paring it down to what appears to be acceptable.

Yeah, we’re both a bit wordy and I should have trimmed all the cruft from 
earlier in the discussion.

Top Posting
What’s the biggest problem with following email conversations today?

I tried that with my second post. It didn't help.

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Re: OT Mail

[Larry Colen]

> On Jan 6, 2023, at 6:22 PM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> On 1/6/2023 7:21 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
> 
> Well Larry, I've tried twice to respond to you, both got bounces because this 
> list thinks 10kb is too big to post to the list.
> This may have made sense when everyone was on dial up, but it's a 
> ridiculously small number these days when everyone is on high speed internet.
> It may or may not make it through eventually, but I've spent more time than I 
> care to in paring it down to what appears to be acceptable.

Yeah, we’re both a bit wordy and I should have trimmed all the cruft from 
earlier in the discussion.

Top Posting
What’s the biggest problem with following email conversations today?


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Re: OT Mail

[Bill]

On 1/6/2023 7:21 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

Well Larry, I've tried twice to respond to you, both got bounces because 
this list thinks 10kb is too big to post to the list.
This may have made sense when everyone was on dial up, but it's a 
ridiculously small number these days when everyone is on high speed 
internet.
It may or may not make it through eventually, but I've spent more time 
than I care to in paring it down to what appears to be acceptable.


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Re: PDML - PDFG ?

[Larry Colen]

> On Jan 6, 2023, at 6:15 PM,   wrote:
> 
> I use FB for other interests, and yes, it is far more active in the main.  
> Some groups may go a few days without a post, others multiple posts daily.
> Of course, Gen Z (or is it now Gen AA) decry FB, but I'm happy for them to 
> use their Tik-Tok etc and leave FB to us old fogies.
> I'd join a Pentax FB group like a shot, and might even post more images!

I used to post  event images to facebook, but they made some changes and if 
anything I’ll post a link. 

I use it out of necessity, but hate it with a luke warm passion.  It regularly 
makes me miss livejournal before it was bought by the Russians.

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RE: PDML - PDFG ?

[jcoyle]

I use FB for other interests, and yes, it is far more active in the main.  Some 
groups may go a few days without a post, others multiple posts daily.
Of course, Gen Z (or is it now Gen AA) decry FB, but I'm happy for them to use 
their Tik-Tok etc and leave FB to us old fogies.
I'd join a Pentax FB group like a shot, and might even post more images!


John in Brisbane



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From: Steve Cottrell  
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To: pentax list 
Subject: PDML - PDFG ?

Just as a matter of interest, is there any interest in a Pentax Discussion 
Facebook Group?

I admin a FB group with over 800 members, it’s quite fun. Photos are posted 
daily and response is swift. Sure, you battle with the evil that is Meta, but 
if one is selective about viewing habits, it becomes a tool, just like camera 
gear…

Best

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Re: PDML - PDFG ?

[Bill]

On 1/6/2023 6:47 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

Oh really?

Here’s a test:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/482940207253506

See if it garners any interest…

If not, it will be killed off.

Just a thought.

Cotty

Sorry Steve, not going anywhere near crackbook.

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Re: OT Mail

[Larry Colen]

I joined this group about 12 years ago, just exactly too late to submit to the 
first annual. 

Back then I had been active on the dpreview pentax forum, and dpr did something 
particularly annoying, I don’t remember what, a squirrel may have been 
involved.  My impression of online photo fora at that point was pretty much 
that people who had figured out some of the basics of manual exposure three 
months before were at the peak of their Dunning-Kruger confidence and would 
share their extensive knowledge, some of which was based in reality,  with 
people who had bought a digital camera three weeks before and would ask 
questions like “why should I shoot raw?”, “What’s an f-stop?”, and “Do I need a 
tripod?”.  
At the time I had only been doing photography about 40 years, and it was nice 
to find a group where a significant number of members made me seem 
inexperienced, and only a couple of people had repeated the same year of 
experience 50 or more times.

> On Jan 6, 2023, at 3:56 PM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> On 1/6/2023 4:41 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
>> I wish there were more people actively participating here. Looking into the 
>> archives at pdml.net , on this date ten years ago there 
>> were 63 messages. Yesterday there was one.
>> 
>> Rick
> Go back 20 years and there were probably 200 posts.
> 
> When I joined the list in 1999 it was a vibrant and sometimes raucous 
> community that was focused on Pentax camera equipment and photography. There 
> was very little discussion outside of those subjects, and we had a lot to say.
> As a group, we have taken our eyes off the ball in that regard. There is very 
> little Pentax or photography discussion these days.

I do find it frustrating that where I used to get a lot of useful critique of 
my own photos, and even see useful critique of other people’s photos, at most 
there might be an occasional “nice photo”.

> 
> The introduction of new lenses passes most people by, it seems. When the DFA* 
> 50/1.4 was released in 2018, we barely murmured about it even though it is 
> among the best lenses in it's class.

That may be, but in my case I already had an FA 50/1.4 and I rarely lost shots 
because they weren’t sharp enough to cut myself shaving.  It’s good enough, and 
I spent my money on lenses that would take photos that ones I already had 
couldn’t. 
> The same with the DA*85/1.4 in 2020. This lens is the best 85mm lens 
> available on the market, but other than a couple of posts from people who 
> have purchased one, crickets.

This is one that interests me, but at the moment it doesn’t interest me $1900 
worth. It also looks like it weighs a ton, I’ll make do with my 77/1.8 for now, 
not quite as long or as fast, but a lot smaller, and I love that 77 pixie dust.

> Did anyone here actually notice the DFA21mm LTD that was released last year?

I noticed it, I already have lenses that will do what it does, maybe not quite 
as well, but they do other things better.  

> 
> How about the K3III? Does anyone here really give two fucks about it? It's 
> one of the best APS-C cameras on the market and probably will be the last 
> APS-C SLR that anyone will release for the next decade, and then it will be 
> another Pentax because no one else will be making SLRs by then.
I’d love to have one, and have been tempted, but when it came out I was 
unemployed and broke, now that I’m employed and less broke, I haven’t had time 
to take photos.  Note that my total collection of keeper candidate photos last 
year was 11 frames, I used to get that many photos of that quality in a month. 

> 
> How about the updates to the 31, 43 and 77mm lenses that were introduced last 
> year? Did anyone here give enough of a fuck about it to start a thread about 
> them?

I already have a 31,43 and 77.  The 43 and 77 are two of my favorite lenses.  
Trading up for a little bit nicer coating just wasn’t worth the money.  If I 
were buying them new, I’d be very interested.  If they released them with the 
coating and weather sealing, I’d be interested. 

> 
> We are supposed to be about Pentax cameras and photography, but we talk about 
> neither for the most part.

This thread is a case in point.

> 
> The honest truth is that this list is no longer relevant for anyone 
> interested in Pentax or photography.

Not entirely true, and some of us may not be as relevant to photography as we 
once were.

> 
> The world has moved on from email lists to online forums. Do a non specific 
> search for anything related to discussing Pentax cameras and the PDML doesn't 
> show up unless you type in Pentax discuss, and then it's on page 2 of Google. 
> In other words, you have to know this list exists to find it.
> Have we even had a new member join in the last 5 years and if so has that 
> person stuck around for more than a couple of posts?

This is an important point.  How many people actively invite new people to join.

On top of that, I’ve maintained contact with some of the friends 

Re: PDML - PDFG ?

[Larry Colen]

> On Jan 6, 2023, at 4:48 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> Which one - this one? 'Pentaxian Street photography’ ?

No, the Pentaxian group:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/155414957979206


> 
> Cot
> 
> 
> On 7 Jan 2023, at 00:34, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> There is a pentaxian fb group
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Re: PDML - PDFG ?

[Steve Cottrell]

Which one - this one? 'Pentaxian Street photography’ ?

Cot


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Re: PDML - PDFG ?

[Steve Cottrell]

Oh really?

Here’s a test:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/482940207253506

See if it garners any interest…

If not, it will be killed off.

Just a thought.

Cotty


On 7 Jan 2023, at 00:34, David J Brooks  wrote:

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Re: PDML - PDFG ?

[David J Brooks]

There is a pentaxian fb group

On Fri, Jan 6, 2023 at 7:30 PM Steve Cottrell  wrote:

> Just as a matter of interest, is there any interest in a Pentax Discussion
> Facebook Group?
>
> I admin a FB group with over 800 members, it’s quite fun. Photos are
> posted daily and response is swift. Sure, you battle with the evil that is
> Meta, but if one is selective about viewing habits, it becomes a tool, just
> like camera gear…
>
> Best
>
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PDML - PDFG ?

[Steve Cottrell]

Just as a matter of interest, is there any interest in a Pentax Discussion 
Facebook Group?

I admin a FB group with over 800 members, it’s quite fun. Photos are posted 
daily and response is swift. Sure, you battle with the evil that is Meta, but 
if one is selective about viewing habits, it becomes a tool, just like camera 
gear…

Best

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Re: OT Mail

[Steve Cottrell]

On 6 Jan 2023, at 23:56, Bill  wrote:

As a group, we have taken our eyes off the ball 

[snip]



Funny how I get drawn into reading all the irrelevant shit, quietly from the 
sidelines.

But I mostly agree.

My only Pentax use is a 50/1.4 and A*84/1.4 on an Oly Pen F. If Pentax made a 
mirrorless camera as sexy as the Pen F, I’d be all over it like a rash.

They don’t, and I’m not.

I did buy an OM-D EM-1 mark II purely for video use and it’s an amazing piece 
of equipment, absolutely love it.

Sigh.

As you were,

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Re: OT Mail

[Bill]

On 1/6/2023 4:41 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

I wish there were more people actively participating here. Looking into the archives 
at pdml.net , on this date ten years ago there were 63 
messages. Yesterday there was one.

Rick
As an adendum to this, look at the participation in the PUG. When I was 
the gallery maintainer 20 years ago we were posting 70 or more images a 
month. This month, less than 20.


It's just where the PDML is at. The list is dying a slow death.

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Re: January PUG is up

[Bill]

On 1/6/2023 3:29 PM, Brian W wrote:

Thank you kind sir!


I came up with as many superlatives as I could find in my limited 
vocabulary. It really is a great picture.


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Re: OT Mail

[Bill]

On 1/6/2023 4:41 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

I wish there were more people actively participating here. Looking into the archives 
at pdml.net , on this date ten years ago there were 63 
messages. Yesterday there was one.

Rick

Go back 20 years and there were probably 200 posts.

When I joined the list in 1999 it was a vibrant and sometimes raucous 
community that was focused on Pentax camera equipment and photography. 
There was very little discussion outside of those subjects, and we had a 
lot to say.
As a group, we have taken our eyes off the ball in that regard. There is 
very little Pentax or photography discussion these days.


The introduction of new lenses passes most people by, it seems. When the 
DFA* 50/1.4 was released in 2018, we barely murmured about it even 
though it is among the best lenses in it's class. The same with the 
DA*85/1.4 in 2020. This lens is the best 85mm lens available on the 
market, but other than a couple of posts from people who have purchased 
one, crickets.


Did anyone here actually notice the DFA21mm LTD that was released last 
year?


How about the K3III? Does anyone here really give two fucks about it? 
It's one of the best APS-C cameras on the market and probably will be 
the last APS-C SLR that anyone will release for the next decade, and 
then it will be another Pentax because no one else will be making SLRs 
by then.


How about the updates to the 31, 43 and 77mm lenses that were introduced 
last year? Did anyone here give enough of a fuck about it to start a 
thread about them?


We are supposed to be about Pentax cameras and photography, but we talk 
about neither for the most part.


The honest truth is that this list is no longer relevant for anyone 
interested in Pentax or photography.


The world has moved on from email lists to online forums. Do a non 
specific search for anything related to discussing Pentax cameras and 
the PDML doesn't show up unless you type in Pentax discuss, and then 
it's on page 2 of Google. In other words, you have to know this list 
exists to find it.
Have we even had a new member join in the last 5 years and if so has 
that person stuck around for more than a couple of posts?


We don't talk about what we are purportedly here to talk about, and what 
we talk about is, to be kind, pretty mundane shit for the most part. 
We've become comfortable with silence, and so have become silent.


For myself, I've pretty much moved on. I'm very active on PentaxForums. 
I recently took on the task of Moderator over there.


I suspect I'm not alone in this (other than being crazy enough to want 
to be a forum moderator). We've just gotten bored, have found other 
things to do that mean more to us and concentrate our time on anything 
but the PDML.


We have become a small closed door social club in the basement of a 
burnt out building in a ghost town.


I want to talk about Pentax. I want to talk about photography, and when 
I try to do it here I may as well be talking into a vacuum.


Sadly, the PDML has become boring and irrelevant, and that is reflected 
in the activity shown on it.


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Re: OT Mail

[Comcast]

The list was originally about Pentax gear and photography. With new Pentax 
products few and far between and many members shooting other brands, there’s 
little to talk about. And there’s Facebook where photos usually garner more 
interest.

Paul

> On Jan 6, 2023, at 5:41 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> I wish there were more people actively participating here. Looking into the 
> archives at pdml.net , on this date ten years ago there 
> were 63 messages. Yesterday there was one.
> 
> Rick
> 
>> On Jan 4, 2023, at 9:03 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>> 
>> It's been cloudy and rainy for the past 3-4 days, what a great time to sit
>> down and go through 37K of gmail's and delete.
>> Some of my pdml ones date back to dec 2010
>> 
>> Dave(tired mouse finger) brooks
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Re: OT Mail

[David J Brooks]

On Fri, Jan 6, 2023 at 5:41 PM Rick Womer  wrote:

> I wish there were more people actively participating here. Looking into
> the archives at pdml.net , on this date ten years ago
> there were 63 messages. Yesterday there was one


Rick I also noticed on the 2010 messages mostly gear talk few picture
sharing

Dave

>
>
> Rick
>
> > On Jan 4, 2023, at 9:03 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> >
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Re: OT Mail

[Rick Womer]

I wish there were more people actively participating here. Looking into the 
archives at pdml.net , on this date ten years ago there were 
63 messages. Yesterday there was one.

Rick

> On Jan 4, 2023, at 9:03 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> It's been cloudy and rainy for the past 3-4 days, what a great time to sit
> down and go through 37K of gmail's and delete.
> Some of my pdml ones date back to dec 2010
> 
> Dave(tired mouse finger) brooks
> 
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Re: January PUG is up

[Brian W]

Thank you kind sir!

Cheers
Brian

> On 07 January 2023 at 04:25 Bill  wrote:
> 
> 
> I like Lennox Bridge the most out of this gallery. The very organic 
> stone arch rising out of the forest floor is elegant in it's quiet 
> strength, while the  ferny things in the foreground frame the structure 
> and all a touch of luxurious softness as a counterpoint to the geometric 
> symmetry of the span.
> 
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Re: January PUG is up

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks once again, Brian, for keeping the PUG rollin' on!

A fairly large gallery, at 17 images, full of excellent work.  I'm glad
that I didn't use my Shaky Bridge image, but made it a PESO instead, as
there are several similar wooden bridge images in the gallery, all better
than mine.  Likewise with my image of the bridges over the East River, as
there are several better images of familiar urban bridges in the collection.

My favorite of this month's PUG is "The Way Forward," by Paul Stenquist.  I
like the rendering of the colors and the effective composition, and, of
course, it's always nice to see
gracie!

Jan van Wijk gets my vote for the most inventive interpretation of the
theme, and it's a compelling image in its own right.

Rick Womer's rendering of the Charles Bridge at night is simply gorgeous,
and brings back fond memories of our trip to Prague.  Henk's image of the
same bridge is full of humor and color, and conveys a strong sense of place.

Ann's Zakim Bridge is outstanding for the compelling geometry and
composition.

I am impressed by "Pont de Normandie"by Filip Nicolaï.  That is a
magnificent structure, which I tried to capture a few years back, without
the kind of success Filip has had. Great work!

All of the images are pleasing and effective, and I congratulate all the
submitters on the quality of their work.  This is one of the things I love
about this group.

Dan Matyola
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On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 12:21 AM Brian W  wrote:

> G'day all
>
> Enjoy the new gallery here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/
>
> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
> there).
>
> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
> infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
> gallery,
> let me know.
>
> +
>
> Next up: 'Golden Hour'
>
> Full Submissions Guidelines are here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
>
> You can submit here:
>
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>
> Cheers
> Brian
> ++
> Brian Walters
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Re: January PUG is up

[David J Brooks]

another great gallery

Dave

On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 12:21 AM Brian W  wrote:

> G'day all
>
> Enjoy the new gallery here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/
>
> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
> there).
>
> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
> infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
> gallery,
> let me know.
>
> +
>
> Next up: 'Golden Hour'
>
> Full Submissions Guidelines are here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
>
> You can submit here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
>
> Cheers
> Brian
> ++
> Brian Walters
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Re: OT Mail

[Comcast]

Check incarceration records.

Paul

> On Jan 6, 2023, at 12:46 PM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> On 1/6/2023 11:29 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>> You had to mention Dobo and Mafud?
>> 
>> I try to forget them, but I miss many of the old crew, especially Knarf.
>> 
>> We should make an effort to reach out to them and see what they are doing.
>> 
>> Dan Matyola
>> 
> You start with Dobo, I'll see if I can find Bruce Rubenstein.
> 
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Re: OT Mail

[David J Brooks]

On Fri, Jan 6, 2023 at 12:29 PM Daniel J. Matyola 
wrote:

> You had to mention Dobo and Mafud?
>

I mailed Dobo a Pentax poster, i was the TOPDML contact so I was worried
because I put my return address on the tube. He only lived, so he siad, a 2
hour drive from me.

>
> I try to forget them, but I miss many of the old crew, especially Knarf.
>

I reached out to Frank in the fall, the email did not bounce but no reply

Dave

>
> We should make an effort to reach out to them and see what they are doing.
>
> Dan Matyola
> *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
> *
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: OT Mail

[Bill]

On 1/6/2023 11:29 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

You had to mention Dobo and Mafud?

I try to forget them, but I miss many of the old crew, especially Knarf.

We should make an effort to reach out to them and see what they are doing.

Dan Matyola


You start with Dobo, I'll see if I can find Bruce Rubenstein.

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Re: OT Mail

[Bob W PDML]

If you want to reach out to Dobo and Mafud you should probably wait until 31 
October and do it from the safety of a pentagram drawn on the floor, with a 
fistful of candlesticks and a large bucket of holy water at the ready.

> On 6 Jan 2023, at 17:29, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> You had to mention Dobo and Mafud?
> 
> I try to forget them, but I miss many of the old crew, especially Knarf.
> 
> We should make an effort to reach out to them and see what they are doing.
> 
> Dan Matyola
> *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
> *
> 
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Jan 6, 2023 at 12:09 PM Bill  wrote:
>> 
>>> On 1/4/2023 8:03 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
>>> It's been cloudy and rainy for the past 3-4 days, what a great time to
>> sit
>>> down and go through 37K of gmail's and delete.
>>> Some of my pdml ones date back to dec 2010
>>> 
>>> Dave(tired mouse finger) brooks
>>> 
>> I've got every email I've either sent or received from the list since
>> the day I joined in 1999.
>> Sometimes when I want a laugh, or just to reminisce,  I go back and read
>> some of those old emails from whowhowho, or Mafud, Pseudo Mafud, Greene,
>> Dobo, and all the people who were my best internet friends.
>> 
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Re: OT Mail

[Daniel J. Matyola]

You had to mention Dobo and Mafud?

I try to forget them, but I miss many of the old crew, especially Knarf.

We should make an effort to reach out to them and see what they are doing.

Dan Matyola
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On Fri, Jan 6, 2023 at 12:09 PM Bill  wrote:

> On 1/4/2023 8:03 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
> > It's been cloudy and rainy for the past 3-4 days, what a great time to
> sit
> > down and go through 37K of gmail's and delete.
> > Some of my pdml ones date back to dec 2010
> >
> > Dave(tired mouse finger) brooks
> >
> I've got every email I've either sent or received from the list since
> the day I joined in 1999.
> Sometimes when I want a laugh, or just to reminisce,  I go back and read
> some of those old emails from whowhowho, or Mafud, Pseudo Mafud, Greene,
> Dobo, and all the people who were my best internet friends.
>
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Re: OT Mail

[Bill]

On 1/6/2023 11:22 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Lol maybe I should go back and read some I’m only using 9’5 gig of 15

Dave


Some of the really old stuff is a hoot. There was a lot of feistiness 
and free flowing testosterone back in the day.


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Re: January PUG is up

[Bill]

I like Lennox Bridge the most out of this gallery. The very organic 
stone arch rising out of the forest floor is elegant in it's quiet 
strength, while the  ferny things in the foreground frame the structure 
and all a touch of luxurious softness as a counterpoint to the geometric 
symmetry of the span.


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Re: OT Mail

[Bob W PDML]

> On 6 Jan 2023, at 17:09, Bill  wrote:
> 
> On 1/4/2023 8:03 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
>> It's been cloudy and rainy for the past 3-4 days, what a great time to sit
>> down and go through 37K of gmail's and delete.
>> Some of my pdml ones date back to dec 2010
>> 
>> Dave(tired mouse finger) brooks
>> 
> I've got every email I've either sent or received from the list since the day 
> I joined in 1999.
> Sometimes when I want a laugh, or just to reminisce,  I go back and read some 
> of those old emails from whowhowho, or Mafud, Pseudo Mafud, Greene, Dobo, and 
> all the people who were my best internet friends.

That’s something to bequeath to The Museum of Lost Time.
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[David J Brooks]

Lol maybe I should go back and read some I’m only using 9’5 gig of 15

Dave

On Fri, Jan 6, 2023 at 12:09 PM Bill  wrote:

> On 1/4/2023 8:03 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
> > It's been cloudy and rainy for the past 3-4 days, what a great time to
> sit
> > down and go through 37K of gmail's and delete.
> > Some of my pdml ones date back to dec 2010
> >
> > Dave(tired mouse finger) brooks
> >
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> the day I joined in 1999.
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> some of those old emails from whowhowho, or Mafud, Pseudo Mafud, Greene,
> Dobo, and all the people who were my best internet friends.
>
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Re: OT Mail

[Bill]

On 1/4/2023 8:03 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

It's been cloudy and rainy for the past 3-4 days, what a great time to sit
down and go through 37K of gmail's and delete.
Some of my pdml ones date back to dec 2010

Dave(tired mouse finger) brooks

I've got every email I've either sent or received from the list since 
the day I joined in 1999.
Sometimes when I want a laugh, or just to reminisce,  I go back and read 
some of those old emails from whowhowho, or Mafud, Pseudo Mafud, Greene, 
Dobo, and all the people who were my best internet friends.


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Re: Re: GESO: Corn, Oklahoma

[collinb]

We lived in OKC area for 19 years. I didn’t like living between air 
conditioners. As a born cheesehead I prefer cold.
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Re: January PUG is up

[lists]

Thank you Reinhard!



> On 5 Jan 2023, at 12:11, Reinhard Sy  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I especially liked the picture Hippo Bridge by Jan van Wijk, especially the 
> implementation on the theme


It does take some creativity sometimes to shoehorn an image into the theme yes 
;-)

Regards, JvW

=
Jan van Wijk; author of DFsee;  https://www.dfsee.com

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