Re: Something for Henk

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I dunno. Art remains art. An "AI" is just another constructed thing by which 
humans have extended their abilities to influence and manipulate the world we 
live in. We already use automatons to assemble our cars, our toys, our cameras, 
and run a lot of our essential infrastructure. There's really little difference 
between what is Art directly created by human hands and Art that is indirectly 
created by the minds that humans embue their machines with. 

Until a definitive test of what constitutes machine intelligence exists, and 
until machines can reliably and consistently pass that test, any Art is the 
result of human artiface and mind regardless of whether it is directly or 
indirectly created. 

If you want to put a simple limitation on "what is art" to say that it must be 
made by human hands, well, that is just fine … but most photographs will then 
be marginally not-art since we already rely upon a whole range of machines, of 
varying levels of "intelligence", to produce our photographs. 

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> On Jan 21, 2023, at 6:17 PM, Comcast  wrote:
> 
> But it’s happening. AI is now writing as well. Might as well make the best of 
> it. However, I’m glad I’ve reached an age where I probably won’t have to 
> compete with a robot for my job.
> 
> Paul
> 
>> On Jan 21, 2023, at 8:45 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm with you all th way on that , Ralf.
>> 
>> ann
>> 
>>> On 1/21/2023 5:47 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
 Am 21.01.23 um 22:55 schrieb Henk Terhell:
 Thanks Ralph, very funny pictures. I guess this is clever photoshop work,
 perhaps even with the assistance of a new AI picture generator.
 More of such fantasy work will be our future.
>>> 
>>> Really? The idea of living in a world where you have to keep wondering
>>> if art is genuine or AI generated gives me the creeps.
>>> 
>>> Ralf
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Re: Something for Henk

[Daniel J. Matyola]

It's too bad the artist didn't put his best foot forward.

Dan Matyola
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On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 2:32 PM Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:

> Just discovered this in THe Guardian:
>
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2023/jan/21/youll-grow-out-of-them-trainers-transformed-into-plants-in-pictures
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> Ralf
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Re: Something for Henk

[Comcast]

But it’s happening. AI is now writing as well. Might as well make the best of 
it. However, I’m glad I’ve reached an age where I probably won’t have to 
compete with a robot for my job.

Paul

> On Jan 21, 2023, at 8:45 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> I'm with you all th way on that , Ralf.
> 
> ann
> 
>> On 1/21/2023 5:47 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
>>> Am 21.01.23 um 22:55 schrieb Henk Terhell:
>>> Thanks Ralph, very funny pictures. I guess this is clever photoshop work,
>>> perhaps even with the assistance of a new AI picture generator.
>>> More of such fantasy work will be our future.
>> 
>> Really? The idea of living in a world where you have to keep wondering
>> if art is genuine or AI generated gives me the creeps.
>> 
>> Ralf
>> 
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Re: Something for Henk

[ann sanfedele]

I'm with you all th way on that , Ralf.

ann

On 1/21/2023 5:47 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 21.01.23 um 22:55 schrieb Henk Terhell:
Thanks Ralph, very funny pictures. I guess this is clever photoshop 
work,

perhaps even with the assistance of a new AI picture generator.
More of such fantasy work will be our future.


Really? The idea of living in a world where you have to keep wondering
if art is genuine or AI generated gives me the creeps.

Ralf

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Re: Something for Henk

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 21.01.23 um 22:55 schrieb Henk Terhell:

Thanks Ralph, very funny pictures. I guess this is clever photoshop work,
perhaps even with the assistance of a new AI picture generator.
More of such fantasy work will be our future.


Really? The idea of living in a world where you have to keep wondering
if art is genuine or AI generated gives me the creeps.

Ralf

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Re: Something for Henk

[Henk Terhell]

Thanks Ralph, very funny pictures. I guess this is clever photoshop work,
perhaps even with the assistance of a new AI picture generator.
More of such fantasy work will be our future.
Henk

Op za 21 jan. 2023 om 20:32 schreef Ralf R Radermacher :

> Just discovered this in THe Guardian:
>
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2023/jan/21/youll-grow-out-of-them-trainers-transformed-into-plants-in-pictures
>
> Ralf
>
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