RE: Vacation suggestion

2023-04-19 Thread jcoyle
I have, and occasionally use with my non-metered cameras, a Gossen Lunasix 
light meter; selenium cell, so it doesn't need batteries, and can measure a 
quite range of lighting conditions in daylight. No bigger than a cell phone, so 
easy to carry in a pocket.
Don't know if it would be possible to buy one now, even second-hand would be 
rare, I think.

John in Brisbane



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> On Apr 19, 2023, at 8:15 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
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>>> On Apr 19, 2023, at 7:40 AM, Mark Roberts  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
>>> 
>>> Am 19.04.23 um 15:59 schrieb coll...@brendemuehl.net:
 Except for the 6x7. At 10 shots per roll one must be judicious.
>>> 
>>> ...or take enough film.
>> 
>> When I was shooting with the 67 I would bring along a DSLT with a 
>> lens of the same approximate angle of view, set the ISO to that of 
>> the film I had in the 67 (or an even multiple) and test every shot 
>> with the DSLR before doing the capture with the 67. The ability to 
>> check exposure with the histogram and pre-view the composition is a 
>> great benefit. I ended up with nary a wasted frame.
> 
> I agree with this.  You also get a backup in case something goes wrong with 
> the film processing, color in case you are shooting black and white film.  
> 
> While I’m quite capable of exposing the film correctly, our brains just 
> naturally edit the real world to not “see” certain annoying things, where we 
> can see them on the preview display.

It is a technique that basically locks you into static subjects which can stand 
making multiple exposures over a minute or two as you swap equipment around, 
and also carries the cost of having to lug around yet another camera. Seems 
less than appealing to me. I usually carry the minimum of gear, and 
particularly when I'm carrying a largish and heavy camera to begin with. 

G
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Re: Vacation suggestion

2023-04-19 Thread Comcast
We did that back in the day. Swapping in a Polaroid back for the film holder of 
a field camera or Speed Graphic to take a test exposure.

Paul

> On Apr 19, 2023, at 7:00 PM, Stan Halpin  wrote:
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> Long ago (51 years ago or so) a colleague took a photo workshop in Yosemite- 
> senior instructor was Ansel Adams. A major insight he brought back was 
> Ansel’s advice to use Polaroid film to preview exposure and composition prior 
> to the 35mm or 6x6 exposure.
> Stan
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> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Apr 19, 2023, at 10:40 AM, Mark Roberts  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
>> 
> Am 19.04.23 um 15:59 schrieb coll...@brendemuehl.net:
> Except for the 6x7. At 10 shots per roll one must be judicious.
>>> 
>>> ...or take enough film.
>> 
>> When I was shooting with the 67 I would bring along a DSLT with a lens
>> of the same approximate angle of view, set the ISO to that of the film
>> I had in the 67 (or an even multiple) and test every shot with the
>> DSLR before doing the capture with the 67. The ability to check
>> exposure with the histogram and pre-view the composition is a great
>> benefit. I ended up with nary a wasted frame.
>> 
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Re: Vacation suggestion

2023-04-19 Thread Stan Halpin
Long ago (51 years ago or so) a colleague took a photo workshop in Yosemite- 
senior instructor was Ansel Adams. A major insight he brought back was Ansel’s 
advice to use Polaroid film to preview exposure and composition prior to the 
35mm or 6x6 exposure.
Stan


Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 19, 2023, at 10:40 AM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
> 
>>> Am 19.04.23 um 15:59 schrieb coll...@brendemuehl.net:
>>> Except for the 6x7. At 10 shots per roll one must be judicious.
>> 
>> ...or take enough film.
> 
> When I was shooting with the 67 I would bring along a DSLT with a lens
> of the same approximate angle of view, set the ISO to that of the film
> I had in the 67 (or an even multiple) and test every shot with the
> DSLR before doing the capture with the 67. The ability to check
> exposure with the histogram and pre-view the composition is a great
> benefit. I ended up with nary a wasted frame.
> 
> -- 
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> www.robertstech.com
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Fwd: K20D is back

2023-04-19 Thread John Sessoms

My K20D just arrived back from being converted to IR (Amplified Color).

Things are kind of chaotic around here right now, so I don't know how 
soon I'm going to be able to start learning how to use it.




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Re: Pentax K3-iii Monochrome

2023-04-19 Thread Bill
They have presold the first production run and are taking orders. As
always, Ricehigh has warped tge facts to his narrative.

bill

On Fri., Apr. 14, 2023, 12:00 p.m. John Francis,  wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 10:14:36AM +0100, Steve Cottrell wrote:
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> https://www.dpreview.com/news/2780405465/ricoh-announces-pentax-k-3-iii-monochrome-dslr
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> According to a post from ricehigh (there's a name I haven't seen in years)
> Pentax are no longer accepting new orders for this, so presumably there are
> a lot of people who want it.  Either that or they've given up on the idea
> ...
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Re: TEST

2023-04-19 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Received.

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Re: TEST

2023-04-19 Thread Comcast
You‘re here, Ken

Paul

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TEST

2023-04-19 Thread Ken Waller
Test No.1



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Re: PESO: Have a last good look at her!

2023-04-19 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Nice framing and vivid color.

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On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 1:15 PM Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:

> This morning, P's Pride of Burgundy has been driven on to the beach at
> Aliaga, Turkey, in order to scrap her.
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> The photo shows her arriving in Calais in the spring of 2017.
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> https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/seht-sie-euch-noch-mal-gut-an-fotoralfbe/47301902
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> As alway, comments and suggestions...
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Re: How to view this week’s rare hybrid eclipse

2023-04-19 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Isn't that what always happens?

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On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 11:20 AM Larry Colen  wrote:

> It seems that the first step of viewing the eclipse is to be almost
> exactly on the other side of the planet from where I live.
>
> > On Apr 19, 2023, at 7:19 AM, Daniel J. Matyola 
> wrote:
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> https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/19/world/rare-hybrid-solar-eclipse-scn/index.html
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Re: Vacation suggestion

2023-04-19 Thread John Sessoms
Near the NORTH Rim of the Grand Canyon are the Vermilion Cliffs National 
Monument. Also the Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument.


On 4/19/2023 9:59 AM, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:

In Sept we’re going to Yellowstone for 1 week followed by the Grand Canyon for 
another week.

At least with digital I don’t have to worry about running out of film. (Just 
battery life.) Except for the 6x7. At 10 shots per roll one must be judicious.

So the question is: What should I shoot? Not just the same things that a 
million other tourists have shot, that’s for certain.
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Re: Vacation suggestion

2023-04-19 Thread mike wilson

> On 19/04/2023 14:59 coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:
> 
>  
> In Sept we’re going to Yellowstone for 1 week followed by the Grand Canyon 
> for another week.
> 
> At least with digital I don’t have to worry about running out of film. (Just 
> battery life.) Except for the 6x7. At 10 shots per roll one must be judicious.
> 
> So the question is: What should I shoot? Not just the same things that a 
> million other tourists have shot, that’s for certain.

Nude selfies.
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PESO: Have a last good look at her!

2023-04-19 Thread Ralf R Radermacher

This morning, P's Pride of Burgundy has been driven on to the beach at
Aliaga, Turkey, in order to scrap her.

The photo shows her arriving in Calais in the spring of 2017.

https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/seht-sie-euch-noch-mal-gut-an-fotoralfbe/47301902

As alway, comments and suggestions...

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Re: Vacation suggestion

2023-04-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
What Godders said. Back in the days when I was pumping iron five days a week I 
would hike into the Santa Monica mountains with the 6x7 and three lenses. Even 
then, I couldn’t imagine carrying more. Today at 75, my K-1 and one lens is all 
I can manage.
Paul

> On Apr 19, 2023, at 11:44 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> 
> It is a technique that basically locks you into static subjects which can 
> stand making multiple exposures over a minute or two as you swap equipment 
> around, and also carries the cost of having to lug around yet another camera. 
> Seems less than appealing to me. I usually carry the minimum of gear, and 
> particularly when I'm carrying a largish and heavy camera to begin with. 
> 
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Re: Vacation suggestion

2023-04-19 Thread Mark Roberts
Larry Colen wrote:

>
>
>> On Apr 19, 2023, at 7:40 AM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
>> 
>> Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
>> 
>>> Am 19.04.23 um 15:59 schrieb coll...@brendemuehl.net:
 Except for the 6x7. At 10 shots per roll one must be judicious.
>>> 
>>> ...or take enough film.
>> 
>> When I was shooting with the 67 I would bring along a DSLT with a lens
>> of the same approximate angle of view, set the ISO to that of the film
>> I had in the 67 (or an even multiple) and test every shot with the
>> DSLR before doing the capture with the 67. The ability to check
>> exposure with the histogram and pre-view the composition is a great
>> benefit. I ended up with nary a wasted frame.
>
>I agree with this.  You also get a backup in case something goes wrong with 
>the film processing

THIS!

I once had an entire trip's worth of film ruined when the lab had a
problem with the bleach fixer.

Another advantage is the difference in aspect ratio between 35mm and
6x7. You can get two different compositions.
 
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Re: Vacation suggestion

2023-04-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
> On Apr 19, 2023, at 8:15 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
>>> On Apr 19, 2023, at 7:40 AM, Mark Roberts  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
>>> 
>>> Am 19.04.23 um 15:59 schrieb coll...@brendemuehl.net:
 Except for the 6x7. At 10 shots per roll one must be judicious.
>>> 
>>> ...or take enough film.
>> 
>> When I was shooting with the 67 I would bring along a DSLT with a lens
>> of the same approximate angle of view, set the ISO to that of the film
>> I had in the 67 (or an even multiple) and test every shot with the
>> DSLR before doing the capture with the 67. The ability to check
>> exposure with the histogram and pre-view the composition is a great
>> benefit. I ended up with nary a wasted frame.
> 
> I agree with this.  You also get a backup in case something goes wrong with 
> the film processing, color in case you are shooting black and white film.  
> 
> While I’m quite capable of exposing the film correctly, our brains just 
> naturally edit the real world to not “see” certain annoying things, where we 
> can see them on the preview display.

It is a technique that basically locks you into static subjects which can stand 
making multiple exposures over a minute or two as you swap equipment around, 
and also carries the cost of having to lug around yet another camera. Seems 
less than appealing to me. I usually carry the minimum of gear, and 
particularly when I'm carrying a largish and heavy camera to begin with. 

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Re: How to view this week’s rare hybrid eclipse

2023-04-19 Thread Larry Colen
It seems that the first step of viewing the eclipse is to be almost exactly on 
the other side of the planet from where I live.

> On Apr 19, 2023, at 7:19 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/19/world/rare-hybrid-solar-eclipse-scn/index.html
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Re: Vacation suggestion

2023-04-19 Thread Larry Colen


> On Apr 19, 2023, at 7:40 AM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
> 
>> Am 19.04.23 um 15:59 schrieb coll...@brendemuehl.net:
>>> Except for the 6x7. At 10 shots per roll one must be judicious.
>> 
>> ...or take enough film.
> 
> When I was shooting with the 67 I would bring along a DSLT with a lens
> of the same approximate angle of view, set the ISO to that of the film
> I had in the 67 (or an even multiple) and test every shot with the
> DSLR before doing the capture with the 67. The ability to check
> exposure with the histogram and pre-view the composition is a great
> benefit. I ended up with nary a wasted frame.

I agree with this.  You also get a backup in case something goes wrong with the 
film processing, color in case you are shooting black and white film.  

While I’m quite capable of exposing the film correctly, our brains just 
naturally edit the real world to not “see” certain annoying things, where we 
can see them on the preview display.



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Re: Future thinking ...

2023-04-19 Thread Larry Colen
How about one with software version that just removes any but the most basic 
JPEG processing and every UI reference?  Streamline the UI so that only things 
that affect the raw files are still there.

You would still be able to set white balance.

> On Apr 19, 2023, at 7:03 AM, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:
> 
> Imagining a 
> 
> K-1 III full frame that is fully weatherized at $2K
> 
> followed by a 
> 
> K1 III full frame monochrome at $3K
> 
> Steps to rebuilding the Pentax niche. Esp when the film cameras are 
> reintroduced.
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Re: Vacation suggestion

2023-04-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
> On Apr 19, 2023, at 7:40 AM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
> 
>>> Am 19.04.23 um 15:59 schrieb coll...@brendemuehl.net:
>>> Except for the 6x7. At 10 shots per roll one must be judicious.
>> 
>> ...or take enough film.
> 
> When I was shooting with the 67 I would bring along a DSLT with a lens
> of the same approximate angle of view, set the ISO to that of the film
> I had in the 67 (or an even multiple) and test every shot with the
> DSLR before doing the capture with the 67. The ability to check
> exposure with the histogram and pre-view the composition is a great
> benefit. I ended up with nary a wasted frame.

... Or take enough time to expose properly. In an age before digital cameras 
and instant feedback on exposure, we had to understand the medium and learn how 
to use it without the benefit of such conveniences. :)

I have to do this today with the Polaroid cameras because I only get 8 
exposures per pack (at $2+ per exposure). And since the finished product is 
what comes out of the camera, I don't have the luxury or convenience of post 
processing it if I mess up. 

It's a wonderful discipline to learn both good exposure and proper framing. It 
saves a lot of wasted time in the post-capture department. 

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Re: Vacation suggestion

2023-04-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
People. critters, the flora, typical tourist sites from a different perspective.

> On Apr 19, 2023, at 9:59 AM, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:
> 
> In Sept we’re going to Yellowstone for 1 week followed by the Grand Canyon 
> for another week.
> 
> At least with digital I don’t have to worry about running out of film. (Just 
> battery life.) Except for the 6x7. At 10 shots per roll one must be judicious.
> 
> So the question is: What should I shoot? Not just the same things that a 
> million other tourists have shot, that’s for certain.
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Re: Vacation suggestion

2023-04-19 Thread Mark Roberts
Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

>Am 19.04.23 um 15:59 schrieb coll...@brendemuehl.net:
>> Except for the 6x7. At 10 shots per roll one must be judicious.
>
>...or take enough film.

When I was shooting with the 67 I would bring along a DSLT with a lens
of the same approximate angle of view, set the ISO to that of the film
I had in the 67 (or an even multiple) and test every shot with the
DSLR before doing the capture with the 67. The ability to check
exposure with the histogram and pre-view the composition is a great
benefit. I ended up with nary a wasted frame.
 
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Re: Vacation suggestion

2023-04-19 Thread Ralf R Radermacher

Am 19.04.23 um 15:59 schrieb coll...@brendemuehl.net:

Except for the 6x7. At 10 shots per roll one must be judicious.


...or take enough film.

Ralf

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Re: Vacation suggestion

2023-04-19 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
While in Yellowstone, spend at least a day in Grand Tetons and another in
Jackson Hole.  Lots of good photo targets there.

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On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 9:59 AM  wrote:

> In Sept we’re going to Yellowstone for 1 week followed by the Grand Canyon
> for another week.
>
> At least with digital I don’t have to worry about running out of film.
> (Just battery life.) Except for the 6x7. At 10 shots per roll one must be
> judicious.
>
> So the question is: What should I shoot? Not just the same things that a
> million other tourists have shot, that’s for certain.
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How to view this week’s rare hybrid eclipse

2023-04-19 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/19/world/rare-hybrid-solar-eclipse-scn/index.html

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Vacation suggestion

2023-04-19 Thread collinb
In Sept we’re going to Yellowstone for 1 week followed by the Grand Canyon for 
another week.

At least with digital I don’t have to worry about running out of film. (Just 
battery life.) Except for the 6x7. At 10 shots per roll one must be judicious.

So the question is: What should I shoot? Not just the same things that a 
million other tourists have shot, that’s for certain.
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