Re: IR Photography

2023-07-12 Thread Alan C
Interesting. To me it is more of an art form than serious photography. 
Many moons ago I tried a couple of rolls of B/W IR film. Needed a 
special filter to block out visible light - made a slide on holder from 
thin cardboard. Exposures were around f8 from about 0.5 to 5 sec (pot 
luck!) which made a tripod mandatory - still have the very same tripod. 
Manual guesstimate timing on "B" with a cable release. Focusing was a 
nightmare because the filter was so dark I had to focus without the 
filter & then slide it in and adjust to the IR mark on my Supertak 55/2 
(which I still have!). Pity I didn't think of Larry's sticky tape astro 
method to lock the focus. Only 2 or 3 shots out of the 48 were even on 
the verge of acceptability so that was the end of my adventure.


Alan C

On 13-Jul-23 04:59 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Jul 12, 2023, at 7:06 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:



On 7/12/2023 7:59 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Jul 12, 2023, at 4:47 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:

I had my K20D converted to Amplified Color (665nm) IR.

Had my first chance to test it out today. Didn't notice they'd reset the 
default output to JPEG, so I'm going to have to make another test outing.

Yeah, that bit me when I took my K20 to burning man after having it repaired.  
When I got home and started to process the photos I couldn't figure out why 
they wouldn't adjust properly.

First thing I've noticed is it doesn't seem to work very well if it's not bright 
sunlight. Test shots I took indoors don't show ANY image unless I boost the ISO way 
high & use high exposure compensation.

So you have it blocking all visible light?

"IF" I understand what they did, they replaced the regular IR filter with 
another filter that passes IR below 665nm so that I get visible light PLUS the upper end 
of the IR spectrum ... ???

You *should* be able to get shots indoors just as you would with a standard 
camera.


IR is supposed to be really good for harsh daylight (shooting in the middle of 
the day), so I took it out from 1:00 to 3:00 today to photograph a field of 
sunflowers that are just coming into bloom.

I had it at F8 using the SMC Pentax-DA 1:1.8 50mm lens it seems like everything 
is really soft (out of focus?) except for stuff out on the horizon.

I've got to go out and make another test, but anyone got ideas?

You'll need to focus based on the live view, which is what the sensor sees, 
either that or manually focus based ton the distance scale and the little red 
dot that shows the IR focus point.  The autofocus system focuses for the visual 
spectrum, but IR focuses differently.

H? The K20D has live view?

Hmmm, that’s an issue.  Maybe take some test shots and look at the preview 
screen zoomed in.

If you photograph under LED or fluorescent light there should be no IR.


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Re: IR Photography

2023-07-12 Thread Larry Colen


> On Jul 12, 2023, at 7:06 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/12/2023 7:59 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>>> On Jul 12, 2023, at 4:47 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I had my K20D converted to Amplified Color (665nm) IR.
>>> 
>>> Had my first chance to test it out today. Didn't notice they'd reset the 
>>> default output to JPEG, so I'm going to have to make another test outing.
>> Yeah, that bit me when I took my K20 to burning man after having it 
>> repaired.  When I got home and started to process the photos I couldn't 
>> figure out why they wouldn't adjust properly.
>>> 
>>> First thing I've noticed is it doesn't seem to work very well if it's not 
>>> bright sunlight. Test shots I took indoors don't show ANY image unless I 
>>> boost the ISO way high & use high exposure compensation.
>> So you have it blocking all visible light?
> 
> "IF" I understand what they did, they replaced the regular IR filter with 
> another filter that passes IR below 665nm so that I get visible light PLUS 
> the upper end of the IR spectrum ... ???

You *should* be able to get shots indoors just as you would with a standard 
camera.  

> 
>>> 
>>> IR is supposed to be really good for harsh daylight (shooting in the middle 
>>> of the day), so I took it out from 1:00 to 3:00 today to photograph a field 
>>> of sunflowers that are just coming into bloom.
>>> 
>>> I had it at F8 using the SMC Pentax-DA 1:1.8 50mm lens it seems like 
>>> everything is really soft (out of focus?) except for stuff out on the 
>>> horizon.
>>> 
>>> I've got to go out and make another test, but anyone got ideas?
>> You'll need to focus based on the live view, which is what the sensor sees, 
>> either that or manually focus based ton the distance scale and the little 
>> red dot that shows the IR focus point.  The autofocus system focuses for the 
>> visual spectrum, but IR focuses differently.
> 
> H? The K20D has live view?


Hmmm, that’s an issue.  Maybe take some test shots and look at the preview 
screen zoomed in.  

If you photograph under LED or fluorescent light there should be no IR.  

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Re: IR Photography

2023-07-12 Thread John Sessoms




On 7/12/2023 7:59 PM, Larry Colen wrote:




On Jul 12, 2023, at 4:47 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:

I had my K20D converted to Amplified Color (665nm) IR.

Had my first chance to test it out today. Didn't notice they'd reset the 
default output to JPEG, so I'm going to have to make another test outing.


Yeah, that bit me when I took my K20 to burning man after having it repaired.  
When I got home and started to process the photos I couldn't figure out why 
they wouldn't adjust properly.



First thing I've noticed is it doesn't seem to work very well if it's not bright 
sunlight. Test shots I took indoors don't show ANY image unless I boost the ISO way 
high & use high exposure compensation.


So you have it blocking all visible light?



"IF" I understand what they did, they replaced the regular IR filter 
with another filter that passes IR below 665nm so that I get visible 
light PLUS the upper end of the IR spectrum ... ???




IR is supposed to be really good for harsh daylight (shooting in the middle of 
the day), so I took it out from 1:00 to 3:00 today to photograph a field of 
sunflowers that are just coming into bloom.

I had it at F8 using the SMC Pentax-DA 1:1.8 50mm lens it seems like everything 
is really soft (out of focus?) except for stuff out on the horizon.

I've got to go out and make another test, but anyone got ideas?


You'll need to focus based on the live view, which is what the sensor sees, 
either that or manually focus based ton the distance scale and the little red 
dot that shows the IR focus point.  The autofocus system focuses for the visual 
spectrum, but IR focuses differently.



H? The K20D has live view?


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Re: PESO 2023 - 234 - GDG

2023-07-12 Thread Rick Womer
Yes, I do.

According to my plant ID app, it’s a variety of marigold.

Rick

> On Jul 12, 2023, at 1:35 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> Beginning to look through a bunch of photos I made earlier in the year but 
> hadn't done much rendering of for lack of time. Heh, everyone loves flowers...
> 
> Yellow Flowers - Caspar, CA 2023 :: https://flic.kr/p/2oP4Qdp
> Leica M10-R + Summarit-M 75mm f/2.4
> ISO 100 @ f/8 @ 1/90
> 
> enjoy! 
> 
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Re: IR Photography

2023-07-12 Thread Larry Colen



> On Jul 12, 2023, at 4:47 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> 
> I had my K20D converted to Amplified Color (665nm) IR.
> 
> Had my first chance to test it out today. Didn't notice they'd reset the 
> default output to JPEG, so I'm going to have to make another test outing.

Yeah, that bit me when I took my K20 to burning man after having it repaired.  
When I got home and started to process the photos I couldn't figure out why 
they wouldn't adjust properly.

> 
> First thing I've noticed is it doesn't seem to work very well if it's not 
> bright sunlight. Test shots I took indoors don't show ANY image unless I 
> boost the ISO way high & use high exposure compensation.

So you have it blocking all visible light?

> 
> IR is supposed to be really good for harsh daylight (shooting in the middle 
> of the day), so I took it out from 1:00 to 3:00 today to photograph a field 
> of sunflowers that are just coming into bloom.
> 
> I had it at F8 using the SMC Pentax-DA 1:1.8 50mm lens it seems like 
> everything is really soft (out of focus?) except for stuff out on the horizon.
> 
> I've got to go out and make another test, but anyone got ideas?

You'll need to focus based on the live view, which is what the sensor sees, 
either that or manually focus based ton the distance scale and the little red 
dot that shows the IR focus point.  The autofocus system focuses for the visual 
spectrum, but IR focuses differently.

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IR Photography

2023-07-12 Thread John Sessoms

I had my K20D converted to Amplified Color (665nm) IR.

Had my first chance to test it out today. Didn't notice they'd reset the 
default output to JPEG, so I'm going to have to make another test outing.


First thing I've noticed is it doesn't seem to work very well if it's 
not bright sunlight. Test shots I took indoors don't show ANY image 
unless I boost the ISO way high & use high exposure compensation.


IR is supposed to be really good for harsh daylight (shooting in the 
middle of the day), so I took it out from 1:00 to 3:00 today to 
photograph a field of sunflowers that are just coming into bloom.


I had it at F8 using the SMC Pentax-DA 1:1.8 50mm lens it seems like 
everything is really soft (out of focus?) except for stuff out on the 
horizon.


I've got to go out and make another test, but anyone got ideas?

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PESO 2023 - 234 - GDG

2023-07-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Beginning to look through a bunch of photos I made earlier in the year but 
hadn't done much rendering of for lack of time. Heh, everyone loves flowers...

Yellow Flowers - Caspar, CA 2023 :: https://flic.kr/p/2oP4Qdp
Leica M10-R + Summarit-M 75mm f/2.4
ISO 100 @ f/8 @ 1/90

enjoy! 

G
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