Re: anybody still shoot film?

[The Professor at Pastiche Studio]

Hi,
You don't know me.  I'm new to the list.a reformed lurker.   I remember 
you from before though, so I guess I can say welcome back.  .  As I said 
when I introduced myself, to the group, I'm a snap-shot shooter, shoot film 
mostly unless I want immediate gratification or to e-mail the inlaws. Most 
recent event, my son's wedding,
color print film, machine scan from the Safeway processor, used those for 
the family e-mails.

J.W.L..

J.W.L.

 Original Message - 
From: "Bill D. Casselberry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 1:14 PM
Subject: anybody still shoot film?




 Hey kids!

   I'm back  ;^)

   Got myself another 6x7 & the 45mm lens and a bunch of E100vs

   ... a 165mm f2.8, a 300mm f4 and some miscellany are enroute
   to the new abodeLet The "Real Photography" Begin!!!

   PS: it'll also do digital via a film scanner, something like
   250 megapixels or some such ...
 !8^D  egads!

   Wild Bill on the "Skenick Oregon Koast"

Re: A favour to ask.

[The Professor at Pastiche Studio]

I tried all 4 of the links and they loaded in maybe 5-10 seconds.  Not 
forever, but kind of long-ish.  The peso page came up in front of Outlook 
express where I'm reading the mail from.  Then the second time I went to the 
link, I didn't see the page, because it loaded alright, but was behind the 
mail client rather than infront.  Don't know what that's all about. 
Incidentally we are using DSL from local phone company, and vanilla windows 
XP /explorer, outlook express.


J.W.L.

- Original Message - 
From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "PDML" 
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 8:27 AM
Subject: OT: A favour to ask.


G'day All,

I'm having problems viewing my PESO's & GESO's. The pages load but the
images take forever to download (if they even do). The problem is the
same no matter which browser I use, and I have no problems viewing any
other web sites.

Before I start annoying my ISP's support people, I thought I'd see if
the problem is on my end first. If you would be so kind, could you
please  have a look at the following & let me know if they are
loading for you.










Thanks in advance.


Dave

Re: Orphaned Power Zoom Lenses

[The Professor at Pastiche Studio]

No, I have a PZ-1, and a MS-Z and recently gave my (now) daughter-in-law my 
old PZ-20.  I use the power zoom all the time and think it the bee's knees, 
but most people  think its a power hog and not much else.  I never have used 
the functions for zoom tracking on the PZ-1 though.  Tried it once and it 
didn't seem to work all that well.


J.W.L.
- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "pentax-discuss" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 3:02 PM
Subject: Orphaned Power Zoom Lenses


The list has been consumed with passionate debates about "green button 
wars" and camera engineering, nobody has mentioned a MAJOR lack of support 
for a key feature that Pentax pioneered!  What am I talking about?  Power 
Zoom, of course!
It was bad enough when Pentax released their new top-end MZ-S without 
supporting Image-Size Tracking, Zoom Clip, and Zoom Effect capabilities. 
Pentax did at least include Power Zoom contacts in the MZ-S so that the 
power zoom capability in certain FA and FA* zoom lenses didn't completely 
go to waste.
Unfortunately, Pentax has fully abandoned their many FA and FA* power zoom 
owners with the *ist-D and *ist-Ds.  Wouldn't it have been ridiculously 
easy to include power zoom contacts?
So now I have two FA* lenses with Power Zoom motors that may never be 
exercised again.  Am I the only voice crying in the wilderness, or does 
someone else out there miss Power Zoom?

Re: Raving... :)

[The Professor at Pastiche Studio]

If I can intrude.  I'm actually a pretty big fan of Ken Burns, mostly 
because I am also a huge history buff and I think his historical 
documentaries are of high quality.  I somewhat understand the integrity of 
the original and shame on derivative works argument, but most of his source 
documents are the sort of vernacular street scenes and group scenes that 
weren't exactly a single statement of a single idea to begin with.  If they 
were published in a book rather than part of a TV show, I'd be perusing them 
for several minutes with a hand lens.  That's sort of what Burns is allowing 
me to do.  Also, pragmatically, if you have a 30 second narrative about an 
event that you have to cover with video, and have exactly one photograph 
that's correct, what are you going to do?  I like this better that the 
talking head of  Professor Fluffneagle of the Polytechnic which is what a 
lot of history documentaries fall back on.

Anyhow, rave mark II, I guess.
Looks to me like this would be fun software to fool around with the family 
album.


J.W.L.





 Original Message - 
From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: Raving... :)


Cotty,

I agree with you in overall sentiment.

The "John Burns effect" is useful when used sparingly, can be very
effective as a transition between themes in an orchestrated
presentation or when using it to make a particular statement. Overuse
of any effects is tiresome and becomes cliché rapidly.

I think this tool, however, is pretty well done and gives options to
the presentation creator in a simpler way than other tools I've used
for presentations of this sort.

Godfrey

Re: PESO -- Teenager in training.

[The Professor at Pastiche Studio]

A tad cool (blue)on my screen. 


J,W,L.

-- Original Message - 
From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:02 PM
Subject: SV: PESO -- Teenager in training.



Very nice shot. Kind dull, though. I'd consider giving it some "auto
levels".
Regards

Jens Bladt
Arkitekt MAA
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: P. J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 16. september 2005 18:43
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: PESO -- Teenager in training.


Teenager in Training.

http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_teintr.html

Technical Info:

Pentax *ist-D ISO 400 @ 1/125sec  (Built in Flash)
smc Pentax 28-200mm f3.8~5.6AL[IF]  @ 200mm f5.6

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Re: PESO: Lisa's Legs

[The Professor at Pastiche Studio]

I like the idea of abstraction, texture, and so on, the problem is that this 
particular abstraction seems to not say stone statue so much as Pompeii or 
as Frank said, burn unit.  Don't know if the texture is too large or the 
color is

the issue, but yea, its disturbing
J.W.L.

- Original Message - 
From: "Glen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: PESO: Lisa's Legs



At 04:40 PM 9/14/2005, Shel Belinkoff wrote:


Hi Glen, I don't like it.  The pose looks forced and unnatural.  The
Photoshop work, as good as it may be, makes the whole thing look 
grotesque,

unpleasant.  However, I like the idea that you're pushing the envelope.
Whatever you do, don't let negative comments stop you from experimenting
and exploring.


Thanks Shel, for the encouragement. I truly appreciate it. Like I told 
someone else earlier, I only ask that people comment honestly on my work, 
whether they like it or not.


I happen to like the image, but I don't see a girl when I see the image. I 
see form, colors, and texture. Of course, I'm aware that it was derived 
from a girl's legs, but the girl herself isn't what my mind concentrates 
on when I see this image. Perhaps that is why I like it and some others 
don't? I suspect that some of them only want to see the sexy girl?


For those that do, you can take a look here:

http://webpages.charter.net/glenweb/gallery/Lisa1.jpg
http://webpages.charter.net/glenweb/gallery/Lisa2.jpg

These were taken at a beauty pageant Lisa participated in. There was no 
Photoshop work done on these. This is what Lisa actually looks like. I 
imagine that many of you will be relieved to know that her skin is in 
flawless condition.  ;)


I'm interested to know whether people prefer these candid images, or the 
artistic images I first posted? Also, please tell me why you prefer the 
one you do.



Thanks so much everyone,
Glen

Re: What Ever Happened to Chrome? was: Being There

[The Professor at Pastiche Studio]

Funnily enough the first Pentax I bought -- an H3, was bought because it was 
more versatile for slides than the Rolleiflex T that was my other choice. 
As a mostly snapshot, family diary sort of shooter, the thing that killed 
slides for me was children, and grandparents wanting copies/prints/and so 
on.  Also, as Kodacolor became a mass market, the price differential turned 
around an it became cheaper to take a roll of prints than a roll of slides. 
That was also about the time that the carousel got dropped in a move and 
broke a condenser lens. I couldn't figure out how to get it fixed 
economically and gave up. I thought for a while that slide film might enjoy 
a resurgence with film scanning, but digital cameras seem to have put pad to 
that.  Instant e-mail has eliminated the need for double prints.  Also going 
though the scans on the laptop is hugely more rewarding than holding the 
slides up to the lapshade to see if there's something there.


J,W.L.
.
- Original Message - 
From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 6:12 AM
Subject: What Ever Happened to Chrome? was: Being There


On 9/12/05, Herb Chong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

OTOH, Kodachrome is certain to be one of the fastest ones to be
discontinued. niche product in an already niche market. slide film 
accounted

for about 2% of Fuji's film sales in 2003.


You raise an interesting point, Herb.  When I was a kid (like early
60's) my dad (who shot with a Yashica A tlr - the poor man's Mat,
which was the poor man's Rolleiflex ) shot probably 80% chrome.
He'd set up the projector, tape a sheet on the wall (we were too poor
for a proper screen) and we'd all sit down to look at a new set of
slides.

When he did shoot prints, it was inevitably b&w.

I recall that when I got my first 35mm camera, I shot a lot of chrome,
a lot of b&w prints, and pretty much no colour prints.

So, what killed chromes?  The advent of C41?  I can't believe that
alone did it.  Because while it certainly made colour prints
economical for the snapshot consumer, the price differential didn't
kill black and white, it merely wounded it.

Any thoughts?

cheers,
frank

--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: PESO - Dimples X 2

[The Professor at Pastiche Studio]

Definitely number 2.  The gravitas of the very young is quite appealing. 
The out of focus forground works in this case, althought traditionally it 
isn't supposed to.


Nice job.

J.

--- Original Message - 
From: "Jack Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: PESO - Dimples X 2


Bruce,
She's a beautiful dimple hostess.
Extremely nice lighting. Delicate and appealing.

Jack

--- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


This morning my daughter was watching the muppets on
TV.  I was
sitting there and looked over at her and noticed how
nice the side
light from the far window was on her.  I told her
not to move and went
and got my camera.  Of course, as I walked back into
the room, she had
jumped down and got the dog.  So I had to put her
back in position.

These two shots were of her own posing, more or
less.  Although taken
very close together, they each have a very different
feel to them.

Pentax *istD, FA 50/1.4, handheld
ISO 800, 1/45 sec @ f/2.0
Converted from Raw using Capture One LE

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2229.htm
http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2230.htm

Comments welcome

--
Bruce





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Re: Brooklyn Mail Order Photo Stores

[The Professor at Pastiche Studio]

Classic New Yorker cartoon caption, Dog seated at PC, "On the internet, 
nobody knows you're a dog."


J.W.L.
- Original Message - 
From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 9:53 PM
Subject: Brooklyn Mail Order Photo Stores



Check 'em out.  You may be surprised at what you see ;-))

http://www.donwiss.com/pictures/BrooklynStores/


Shel
"Am I paranoid or perceptive?"

Re: Brooklyn Mail Order Photo Stores

[The Professor at Pastiche Studio]

Classic New Yorker cartoon caption, Dog seated at PC, "On the internet, 
nobody knows you're a dog."


J.W.L.
- Original Message - 
From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 9:53 PM
Subject: Brooklyn Mail Order Photo Stores



Check 'em out.  You may be surprised at what you see ;-))

http://www.donwiss.com/pictures/BrooklynStores/


Shel
"Am I paranoid or perceptive?"

Re: I'm back, did I miss anything?

[The Professor at Pastiche Studio]

Three days and only 9786 exposures?  I compute that as 150 an hour not 
counting sleep time?  I must be missing something here.


J.W.L.
- Original Message - 
From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 8:09 AM
Subject: Re: I'm back, did I miss anything?



No more distraught than I am.  I had the camera but three days and only
made 9,786 exposures. I was just starting to get used to it.

The camera arrived back at the seller yesterday, late afternoon.  Perhaps
I'll get some information today about the replacement.  Their web site
showed no DS's in their stock yesterday, so I was a bit concerned.  Late
last night the DS kit with the 18~55 lens showed up, so maybe a 
replacement

is now on hand.  Quite a saga, what with the camera, the FedEx delivery
f***-up, the Flash Memory Store screwing me on the SD card, and then 
having

to return the defective camera.  Combined, all good reasons to stick with
Tri-X and a manual camera. In fact, good reason to take up finger painting
;-))

Shel
"Am I paranoid or perceptive?"



[Original Message]
From Cotty



Why Shel, methinks you understate the nature of the event.
I was distraught that your camera was faulty - I was
anticipating your initial report with great interest. Still am.

Re: [OT]First compact digicam with APS sized CMOS...

[The Professor at Pastiche Studio]

This is the most right-handed camera since the Speed Graphic.  


J.W.L.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dario Bonazza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: [OT]First compact digicam with APS sized CMOS...



Oh, well... must be odd amateur things ;-)

Dario

- Original Message - 
From: "Sylwester Pietrzyk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [OT]First compact digicam with APS sized CMOS...



Dario Bonazza wrote on 08.09.05 15:38:


Yes, reminds me something, but cannot remember what ;-)

Oh, really? ;-)

--
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek

Re: Pentax winder me II - who had used?

[The Professor at Pastiche Studio]

I used mine quite a lot until I bought a PZ-20 and sort of retired it.  The 
only complaint was that the way I held the camera, I was putting one thumb 
in the middle of the back
for support, and it tended bow the back and spring the latch, causing it to 
open in the middle of a roll.  Really why I stopped using it.


J.W.L.

- Original Message - 
From: "tomecz na o2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 6:11 AM
Subject: Pentax winder me II - who had used?


Hallo, i can buy at reasonable price pentax winder me II, but I do not have 
possibility to check how me super cooperate with it. I mean does the system 
lay in hand well, how about quietness when it works, ergonomics. Have 
somebode used it and use it still or rather do you usually detach winder. 
thanks

Re: Re: EuroEnglish (Was: Same lenses ...)

[The Professor at Pastiche Studio]

- Original Message - 
From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 5:37 AM
Subject: Re: Re: EuroEnglish (Was: Same lenses ...)






From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2005/09/05 Mon AM 11:15:37 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: EuroEnglish (Was: Same lenses ...)

Having spent much time in both California and the upper midwest, I have
to say that the accents are indistinguishable to me. I think this is
due in part to the fact that a large number -- perhaps a majority -- of
southern Californians emigrated from the industrial cities of the
midwest.
On Sep 5, 2005, at 12:12 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> In a message dated 9/4/2005 9:06:53 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Upper midwest American, the language of Reagan and Cronkite, that's
> the true
> pure non-accent.
> J.W.L.


A British comedian, whose specialism was mimicry, was trying to break into 
the American market.  He had a run of shows in (I think) Las Vegas.  After 
one, he was approached by a couple of ladies of a certain age.  In their 
Georgian voices, they told him that they enjoyed his show but wondered if 
he managed to shrug it off and speak in his normal, unaccented voice 
afterwards.  In his best Georgian mimic, he told them that it was 
extremely easy and he had no problem doing it at all.


They were astonished at his ability to speak without an accent, just like 
themselves.


On the other hand, few Brits can manage a really good John Wayne.  :-)

J.W.L.




>
> Injecting a smiley there, because it's a troll for sure as my Geordie
> father-in-law would surely have said.
>
> J
> ===
> No, the true non-accent accent is Californian.
>
> Hollywood and TV.
>
> Nyah, nyah.
>
> Marnie aka Doe   ;-)
>





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Re: EuroEnglish (Was: Same lenses ...)

[The Professor at Pastiche Studio]

Upper midwest American, the language of Reagan and Cronkite, that's the true 
pure non-accent.

J.W.L.

Injecting a smiley there, because it's a troll for sure as my Geordie 
father-in-law would surely have said.


J
- Original Message - 
From: "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Bob W" 
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: EuroEnglish (Was: Same lenses ...)



Does everybody have the same accent, or do people with different accents
spell things differently to suit their pronunciation?


Here in Massachusetts, we don't have an accent - everyone else does.

Fred

Fw: The Nature of Film's Final Throws

[The Professor at Pastiche Studio]

I suppose it depends on the break-even level of the process, and the 
mechanical complexity of the process.  Some industrial processes are just 
lost.  I've often thought that the alternative process folks would eagerly 
jump on reproduction Autochrome plates, but I don't see it happening.  On 
the otherhand, there are mom-and
pop shops making carbon printing tissue and presensitized platinum 
paper --if I recall correctly--though.  I think the safe surmise is that 
there will never be another new emulsion introduced, either B & W  or color.
- Original Message - 
From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: The Nature of Film's Final Throws



I don't know if film will actually die.  Someone somewhere will continue to
manufacture film stock if there is any demand at all.  It's interesting 
but some
discontinued film types have even made something of a comeback.  Expensive 
but
available.  A few years ago you couldn't get 620 or 828 sized film.  Now 
both are
available if ordered on the Internet.  There will probably always be 
enthusiasts who want to
shoot b&w film.  At least enough world wide to create enough demand for 
one or two maybe
even more manufacturers.  Maybe not Kodak, or Fuji, but someone will be 
there to satisfy

the demand.
Jack Davis wrote:


I read this item earlier today. Thus my posted
question.
While it further defines a downward trend, it doesn't
allow me to mentally plot future production levels or
a discontinuance curve.
Factory locations, identified in the article, are only
of interest to the 1,000 employees in those areas.
How much world impact will be felt by discontinuing
some present operational plans in China?
I've read the heavy negative percentages assigned to
film sales forecasts, but feel these must be assigned
a reactionary status at this, still early, date.
Thanks for input.

Jack

--- Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050825/ap_on_bi_ge/kodak_consolidation









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Fw: The Nature of Film's Final Throws

[The Professor at Pastiche Studio]

I suppose it depends on the break-even level of the process, and the 
mechanical complexity of the process.  Some industrial processes are just 
lost.  I've often thought that the alternative process folks would eagerly 
jump on reproduction Autochrome plates, but I don't see it happening.  On 
the otherhand, there are mom-and
pop shops making carbon printing tissue and presensitized platinum 
paper --if I recall correctly--though.  I think the safe surmise is that 
there will never be another new emulsion introduced, either B & W  or color.
- Original Message - 
From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: The Nature of Film's Final Throws



I don't know if film will actually die.  Someone somewhere will continue to
manufacture film stock if there is any demand at all.  It's interesting 
but some
discontinued film types have even made something of a comeback.  Expensive 
but
available.  A few years ago you couldn't get 620 or 828 sized film.  Now 
both are
available if ordered on the Internet.  There will probably always be 
enthusiasts who want to
shoot b&w film.  At least enough world wide to create enough demand for 
one or two maybe
even more manufacturers.  Maybe not Kodak, or Fuji, but someone will be 
there to satisfy

the demand.
Jack Davis wrote:


I read this item earlier today. Thus my posted
question.
While it further defines a downward trend, it doesn't
allow me to mentally plot future production levels or
a discontinuance curve.
Factory locations, identified in the article, are only
of interest to the 1,000 employees in those areas.
How much world impact will be felt by discontinuing
some present operational plans in China?
I've read the heavy negative percentages assigned to
film sales forecasts, but feel these must be assigned
a reactionary status at this, still early, date.
Thanks for input.

Jack

--- Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050825/ap_on_bi_ge/kodak_consolidation









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