Enablement - I finally have a superwide!
I just picked up a Sigma 10-20 4-5,6 EX DC. the build quality is lovely, can't wait to try it out on the camera. I also have an AF540 FGZ flash and Sigma 600mm mirror lens coming from Ebay. That's it for me for quite some time in terms of buying gear. :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
GESO - my first try at action/motorsport
A group or mates hired Wakefield Park racetrack just outside Goulburn NSW on Wednesday for a motorcycle track day. Last time I did a track day at that track, I had a 160kph (100mph) crash, so I didn't take part this time. Instead, I took the K10D and cheap Sigma 70-210 zoom and 'orrible Vivitar 400mm manual focus lenses to the track. Having never tried shooting such subject matter it was a steep learning curve and not having fast lenses meant shooting above 400 iso much of the time. Still, I got a few shots I'm reasonably happy with and I was VERY impressed with how well the K10D performed. The shots in the gallery are a bit distorted in the gallery page, you have to click on the image to get it to open in it's own window to get a proper, sharp version which is annoying. http://tinyurl.com/y88b7l Comments, suggestions and criticism welcome. Cheers James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photography or ???
I suppose it has some artistic merit, but I'm not sure about it being photography...at least not how I intepret photography. Quoting Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Very unusual. It has a strange 3D effect. I would like to see a larger image size. They look almost surreal, like abstract drawings. It kind of grows on you. You said he but is the photographer a she (Tammy). How did you know that 16 shots are being combined? I would be interested to see the technique in action. rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.tccphoto.com/clients/DanBurkholder/ He's taking as many as 16 bracketed shots and combining them in Photoshop. I think the effect works on some shots, not on others. Bob -- Someone handed me a picture and said, This is a picture of me when I was younger. Every picture of you is when you were younger. ...Here's a picture of me when I'm older. Where'd you get that camera man? - Mitch Hedberg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Rugged Coast
I like it mate, the only criticism I'd have is that perhaps the foreground rocks dominate just a little too strongly. I'd be tempted to experiment with different crops. Great exposure though and well spotted. James Quoting Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm interested in your thoughts on this one. Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4 @ 38mm, Handheld ISO 200, 1/350 sec @ f/13 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3811.htm -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Another interview articles
The irony of it is that the majority of people buying PS cameras and clamouring for higher MP counts are only ever going to email small jpegs and/or get regular photo sized prints made, so they would be equally happy with a 3mp camera. Ahhh, the power of marketing. Quoting Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 06/12/06, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Canon could conceivably outgun the competition in price and megapixels if there were to be a price war. Not could, would. Standing in a digital camera shop (no I am not joking) which serves to a big crowd of PS buyers it was interesting to hear in the short time I was in there that MP count does indeed appear to be a major selling point. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
K10D image quality
There may be wailing and gnashing of teeth over on DPReview about perceived problems with the K10D, but my initial impressions with my new K10D are that this camera delivers astonishing image quality! Images are much sharper right out of the camera (even with the same lens) than my istDL. The colour balance and rendition are vastly superior to the istDL and the tonal gradations and shadow detail (in fact dynamic range in general) are also vastly superior to the DL. Every shot from the DL had to be quite drastically tweaked in levels to get rid of the red cast in every shot. Levels, curves, selective colour and slight selective saturation adjustments are part of my regular workflow for images from the DL. Last night, I found that a very quick and subtle tweak of levels and curves were all I needed to get more than satisfactory results from my K10D files. They really do POP! I also did an experiment with the same lens, same settings on the tripod, etc between the two cameras. I shot RAW and converted to JPEG with no adjustments whatsoever. Unfortunately, I resized them a little too small, so I'll redo it with larger files, but the difference between the two was staggering. In isolation the istDL shot looks okay. When compared to the K10D shot, the istDL shot is unacceptably soft, muddy, underexposed and red. The difference really did blow me away. Long story short...even though I had built the K10D up a huge amount, it has certainly met my expectations. The only issue I've had is the shake reduction appears to be a little intermittant. Sometimes it works (you can hear it during exposure) and sometimes it doesn't. Cheeers James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D image quality
Here's the link to the comparison shots...as I said, they're tiny but the difference is very noticeable. Both were iso200 with auto whitebalance in aperture priority with the lens stopped right down. http://tinyurl.com/y5mqe4 Another interesting thing is that these files have been resized to exactly the same number of pixels, however the K10D file is about 25% larger. Clearly the K10D captures and retains more data. Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There may be wailing and gnashing of teeth over on DPReview about perceived problems with the K10D, but my initial impressions with my new K10D are that this camera delivers astonishing image quality! Images are much sharper right out of the camera (even with the same lens) than my istDL. The colour balance and rendition are vastly superior to the istDL and the tonal gradations and shadow detail (in fact dynamic range in general) are also vastly superior to the DL. Every shot from the DL had to be quite drastically tweaked in levels to get rid of the red cast in every shot. Levels, curves, selective colour and slight selective saturation adjustments are part of my regular workflow for images from the DL. Last night, I found that a very quick and subtle tweak of levels and curves were all I needed to get more than satisfactory results from my K10D files. They really do POP! I also did an experiment with the same lens, same settings on the tripod, etc between the two cameras. I shot RAW and converted to JPEG with no adjustments whatsoever. Unfortunately, I resized them a little too small, so I'll redo it with larger files, but the difference between the two was staggering. In isolation the istDL shot looks okay. When compared to the K10D shot, the istDL shot is unacceptably soft, muddy, underexposed and red. The difference really did blow me away. Long story short...even though I had built the K10D up a huge amount, it has certainly met my expectations. The only issue I've had is the shake reduction appears to be a little intermittant. Sometimes it works (you can hear it during exposure) and sometimes it doesn't. Cheeers James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D image quality
The comparison shots were captured as RAW and converted to JPEG in ACR with no adjustments whatsoever. Quoting Ralf R. Radermacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There may be wailing and gnashing of teeth over on DPReview about perceived problems with the K10D, but my initial impressions with my new K10D are that this camera delivers astonishing image quality! Images are much sharper right out of the camera (even with the same lens) than my istDL. The colour balance and rendition are vastly superior to the istDL and the tonal gradations and shadow detail (in fact dynamic range in general) are also vastly superior to the DL. Is that for JPEG or RAW files? Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: K10D image quality
I've only got the DL and K10D I noticed the red cast before and just adjusted levels to correct it in photoshop. It doesn't seem too bad until compared directly with the K10D. There is certainly better quality straight out of the camera with the K10D and I will probably spend a lot less time in Photoshop as a result, which is great. Having said that, I was always happy enough with the DL's image quality. Quoting Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi James I would be interested to see a comparison among all of the digital Pentax bodies with the same lens. Could you possible have got a bad sample of the DL or can anybody confirm the red cast and other things mentioned? Is there indeed a different amount of photoshopping required with the D/DS/DL/K family? Since I soon will buy my first digital body greetings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 12:50 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K10D image quality Here's the link to the comparison shots...as I said, they're tiny but the difference is very noticeable. Both were iso200 with auto whitebalance in aperture priority with the lens stopped right down. http://tinyurl.com/y5mqe4 Another interesting thing is that these files have been resized to exactly the same number of pixels, however the K10D file is about 25% larger. Clearly the K10D captures and retains more data. Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There may be wailing and gnashing of teeth over on DPReview about perceived problems with the K10D, but my initial impressions with my new K10D are that this camera delivers astonishing image quality! Images are much sharper right out of the camera (even with the same lens) than my istDL. The colour balance and rendition are vastly superior to the istDL and the tonal gradations and shadow detail (in fact dynamic range in general) are also vastly superior to the DL. Every shot from the DL had to be quite drastically tweaked in levels to get rid of the red cast in every shot. Levels, curves, selective colour and slight selective saturation adjustments are part of my regular workflow for images from the DL. Last night, I found that a very quick and subtle tweak of levels and curves were all I needed to get more than satisfactory results from my K10D files. They really do POP! I also did an experiment with the same lens, same settings on the tripod, etc between the two cameras. I shot RAW and converted to JPEG with no adjustments whatsoever. Unfortunately, I resized them a little too small, so I'll redo it with larger files, but the difference between the two was staggering. In isolation the istDL shot looks okay. When compared to the K10D shot, the istDL shot is unacceptably soft, muddy, underexposed and red. The difference really did blow me away. Long story short...even though I had built the K10D up a huge amount, it has certainly met my expectations. The only issue I've had is the shake reduction appears to be a little intermittant. Sometimes it works (you can hear it during exposure) and sometimes it doesn't. Cheeers James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: K10D image quality
I've only got the DL and K10D I noticed the red cast before and just adjusted levels to correct it in photoshop. It doesn't seem too bad until compared directly with the K10D. There is certainly better quality straight out of the camera with the K10D and I will probably spend a lot less time in Photoshop as a result, which is great. Having said that, I was always happy enough with the DL's image quality. Quoting Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi James I would be interested to see a comparison among all of the digital Pentax bodies with the same lens. Could you possible have got a bad sample of the DL or can anybody confirm the red cast and other things mentioned? Is there indeed a different amount of photoshopping required with the D/DS/DL/K family? Since I soon will buy my first digital body greetings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 12:50 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K10D image quality Here's the link to the comparison shots...as I said, they're tiny but the difference is very noticeable. Both were iso200 with auto whitebalance in aperture priority with the lens stopped right down. http://tinyurl.com/y5mqe4 Another interesting thing is that these files have been resized to exactly the same number of pixels, however the K10D file is about 25% larger. Clearly the K10D captures and retains more data. Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There may be wailing and gnashing of teeth over on DPReview about perceived problems with the K10D, but my initial impressions with my new K10D are that this camera delivers astonishing image quality! Images are much sharper right out of the camera (even with the same lens) than my istDL. The colour balance and rendition are vastly superior to the istDL and the tonal gradations and shadow detail (in fact dynamic range in general) are also vastly superior to the DL. Every shot from the DL had to be quite drastically tweaked in levels to get rid of the red cast in every shot. Levels, curves, selective colour and slight selective saturation adjustments are part of my regular workflow for images from the DL. Last night, I found that a very quick and subtle tweak of levels and curves were all I needed to get more than satisfactory results from my K10D files. They really do POP! I also did an experiment with the same lens, same settings on the tripod, etc between the two cameras. I shot RAW and converted to JPEG with no adjustments whatsoever. Unfortunately, I resized them a little too small, so I'll redo it with larger files, but the difference between the two was staggering. In isolation the istDL shot looks okay. When compared to the K10D shot, the istDL shot is unacceptably soft, muddy, underexposed and red. The difference really did blow me away. Long story short...even though I had built the K10D up a huge amount, it has certainly met my expectations. The only issue I've had is the shake reduction appears to be a little intermittant. Sometimes it works (you can hear it during exposure) and sometimes it doesn't. Cheeers James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
The momentous day is here
I have just picked up my K10D, the battery is charging (oh torture) and I'm stuck at my desk (did someone mention torture) but I'll be playing with it as soon as the battery is charged. Woohoo! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
K10D in Australia
I just spoke to a CR Kennedy person in Meblourne and they told me that the allocation of K10Ds for the store I've ordered through is on the truck and due in the store tomorrow or Wednesday at the latest! Of course the person I spoke to in the store had no idea, they said next week. :) Fingers crossed I'll have my K10D tomorrow afternoon. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Pentax 1.8 85mm
So the $5 part is now a $50 part? Do you have any other pet subjects you'd like to rant about ad nauseum? Quoting J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Put it the way it is, if you could buy a high end DSLR body for only an extra $50 that would fully support this and the many other fine K/M lenses you wouldnt? I certainly would, its a no brainer. Its not a matter that you can work around the lack of full support, its a matter if you would pay the $50 bucks to get it or not... It's dumb to even not have it for ONE $300 K/M lens, let lone all the fine K/M lenses one may use. This is a cost vs benefit issue, not whether you can get a picture with the lenses at all jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 9:20 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pentax 1.8 85mm HAR! I use it all the time on my digital Pentax cameras. No problem. An *istD/K85/1.8 sample: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2154000 Paul On Nov 23, 2006, at 8:58 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: That lens is one of the many good reasons the Pentax top line DSLRS should be fully supporting K/M lenses.. joco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jens Bladt Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 6:56 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: SV: Pentax 1.8 85mm Thanks Paul, Shel and PJ. I'll se if I can get it for 300 USD. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af P. J. Alling Sendt: 24. november 2006 00:47 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Pentax 1.8 85mm Yes. Jens Bladt wrote: I was offered to buy this lens locally. A K-mount lens, I believe. Is it worth buying? Thanks in advance. Regards Jens -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.14/548 - Release Date: 11/23/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.14/548 - Release Date: 11/23/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Pentax 1.8 85mm
I don't care to argue at all, you're a broken record. Quoting J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: $5 part, $50 retail price increase. If they can sell you IS for $100 retail price increase, its pretty safe to say the simple aperture cam sensor wouldnt cost the customer more than $50. Care to argue that one? jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 10:06 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: Pentax 1.8 85mm So the $5 part is now a $50 part? Do you have any other pet subjects you'd like to rant about ad nauseum? Quoting J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Put it the way it is, if you could buy a high end DSLR body for only an extra $50 that would fully support this and the many other fine K/M lenses you wouldnt? I certainly would, its a no brainer. Its not a matter that you can work around the lack of full support, its a matter if you would pay the $50 bucks to get it or not... It's dumb to even not have it for ONE $300 K/M lens, let lone all the fine K/M lenses one may use. This is a cost vs benefit issue, not whether you can get a picture with the lenses at all jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 9:20 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pentax 1.8 85mm HAR! I use it all the time on my digital Pentax cameras. No problem. An *istD/K85/1.8 sample: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2154000 Paul On Nov 23, 2006, at 8:58 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: That lens is one of the many good reasons the Pentax top line DSLRS should be fully supporting K/M lenses.. joco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jens Bladt Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 6:56 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: SV: Pentax 1.8 85mm Thanks Paul, Shel and PJ. I'll se if I can get it for 300 USD. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af P. J. Alling Sendt: 24. november 2006 00:47 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Pentax 1.8 85mm Yes. Jens Bladt wrote: I was offered to buy this lens locally. A K-mount lens, I believe. Is it worth buying? Thanks in advance. Regards Jens -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.14/548 - Release Date: 11/23/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.14/548 - Release Date: 11/23/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)
High Dynamic Range. You capture multiple shots, identical apart from shutter speed. The shutter speed is varied to give a range of exposures from 1-2 stops under to 1-2 stops over in 1 stop increments (although I prefer 1/2 stop increments). These are then blended in photoshop and the result is a 32 bit file which can't be displayed or printed as the dynamic range is too great for the average monitor or print media. Converting the file back into a 16 bit file allows you to tweak it to show hightlight and shado detail, but the adjustments are quite difficult to do if you want to keep it looking relatively natural. Quoting Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]: what is HDR? -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Williams Sent: 15 November 2006 15:20 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot) Then my taste has to be in my mouth. I think the colours are incredible and the lighting amazing. Of course it isn't real but that's what makes it so interesting -- to me. There are paintings on some Vatican walls that have a similar range of colour and intensity. I'll try to find one or two and post them to illustrate what I mean. I think the picture is great. D BTW. I just saw an interesting, but terrible IMO, semi HDR picture. http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=44863ref=author The light looks surreal. Kind of funny effect, but tiresome to the eye. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO- merge to HDR
I've decided to really try to come to grips with the 32bit hdr function in photoshop CS2. the tricky part is working the curve when converting back down to 16 bits. It's very easy to get awful results and quite hard to get good results. This was shot Sunday evening at Darling Harbour in Sydney. From memory there were about 7 exposures blended. In hindsight, I should have taken a couple more further towards the underexposed side, but I'm still happy with the result. Unfortunately, this is the largest size I can upload. http://tinyurl.com/y46kuj Comments welcome and if there's anyone out there with expertise with this function, advice is definitely welcome. :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - One for the Darwin Awards...
what?! I asked for a bottle rocket, not a bottom rocket! Quoting Perry Pellechia [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What an ass! On 11/9/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/6132140.stm -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Perry Pellechia Primary email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alternate email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://homer.chem.sc.edu/perry -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - One for the Darwin Awards...
After all, it was just a young bloke making an arse of himself Quoting Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED]: We're not; we're just being cheeky! --- Perry Pellechia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why are you piling on this poor guy? On 11/9/06, Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it only qualifies as a Darwin if the poor schlump dies in the act of performing such a stupid stunt. In this case it only rectum, it didn't kill him... -Brendan --- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/6132140.stm -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net ___ _ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Perry Pellechia Primary email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alternate email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://homer.chem.sc.edu/perry -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net ___ _ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: back from Photo Plus saw the K10D
I need a password to follow your link :-/ Quoting Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Nov 8, 2006, at 1:58 PM, K.Takeshita wrote: On 11/08/06 4:45 PM, skye, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps I better be more specific and say that it's the width bothering me. The grippy thing on the right side of the camera (as you hold it up to your eye) is pretty wide compared with the D. Both cameras appear to be the same height. So... if your fingers are long, you'll be happier with the k10D but if your whole hand is wide/large, then maybe not so much. Well, if you want K10D big, you can have this! :-). http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/parts/image_for_link/ 70958-4992-3-1.html Hefting around the Pentax 645 plus lens for a few minutes, I picked up my DS with the DA21 fitted ... and thought it would float away! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax's Tatamiya Interview Part II, #1
Quoting K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Has anyone ever told you Ken that you are a dead set legend? What would we do without you? Great stuff, thanks! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D aimed as D200 killer
I can certainly understand all those who do use high iso being concerned. Thankfullly I just don't tend to use even 400 on my dl..the noise and image quality suffers to my eye and I rarely have a need for it. I suspect my K10D will be set on 100 99% of the time. James Quoting Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 01/11/06, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found the response from Joe Tainter to Godfrey's question quite illuminating. When asked how he managed back in the film days, he seemed to state that basically he rarely if ever used ISO 1600. Well in my case I shot at ISO3200 in my 35mm film days quite a bit and the results that I could obtain from my *ist D under similar conditions were far superior to film for my requirements. What I'm not looking forward to is having now to take a step back again and lose potentially a stop or more of sensitivity vs image quality. How much of a step back will determine how useful the K10D is going to be for me, the lack of a decent high ISO test images at the moment is frustrating to say the least. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D aimed as D200 killer/Translation of interview
Please excuse my ignorance, but how exactly do you stack them in Photoshop? I'm familiar wit combining images of different exposures, but how exactly would this work? Quoting Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's when you combine virtually identical multiple exposures, stacking them to reach a final image that has a total exposure time equal to the sum of the individual exposures. It's useful in astrophotography for a number of reaons. The main one is that a bunch of short, say 6 individual 30 second exposures, can be combined The result is the accumulated photons of a 3 minute exposure. The neat thing is that tracking error (irregularities in the motor drive or polar alignment) can be virtually eliminated, because software automatically aligns/registers the individual images so they overlay each other perfectly. The additional benefit we're talking about here is that the sensor can be run at both a lower ISO and for a shorter exposure duration, both of which reduce noise. Tom C. From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K10D aimed as D200 killer/Translation of interview Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:38:30 -0800 What's a stacked image? Shel [Original Message] From: Tom C It also is likely possible to reduce overall noise by shooting at shorter exposure times and stacking images. The stack will stack up noise just like it does with the signal, but if each stacked image is less than half as noisy as it's double-ISO cousin, results could be favorable. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D aimed as D200 killer/Translation of interview
ahh. Right, my DL can't do that but i think the K10D can Quoting Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You don't combine them in Photoshop. You multiple expose the same image in the camera. Paul On Oct 31, 2006, at 8:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please excuse my ignorance, but how exactly do you stack them in Photoshop? I'm familiar wit combining images of different exposures, but how exactly would this work? Quoting Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's when you combine virtually identical multiple exposures, stacking them to reach a final image that has a total exposure time equal to the sum of the individual exposures. It's useful in astrophotography for a number of reaons. The main one is that a bunch of short, say 6 individual 30 second exposures, can be combined The result is the accumulated photons of a 3 minute exposure. The neat thing is that tracking error (irregularities in the motor drive or polar alignment) can be virtually eliminated, because software automatically aligns/registers the individual images so they overlay each other perfectly. The additional benefit we're talking about here is that the sensor can be run at both a lower ISO and for a shorter exposure duration, both of which reduce noise. Tom C. From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K10D aimed as D200 killer/Translation of interview Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:38:30 -0800 What's a stacked image? Shel [Original Message] From: Tom C It also is likely possible to reduce overall noise by shooting at shorter exposure times and stacking images. The stack will stack up noise just like it does with the signal, but if each stacked image is less than half as noisy as it's double-ISO cousin, results could be favorable. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D aimed as D200 killer
I also don't understand the gripes people have about the IQ of the K10D when nobody has really seen images that can really be used for comparisons. A friend (who has a Canon 30D) asked me in an email today so how come it's so special? in response to my excitement about the K10D. Here's my response, the first time I've really documented (and thought out) the reasons why I want the new camera so much in comparison to my *ist DL. Things that this camera has that my current couldn't dream of: 10mp vs 6mp - not hugely important, but worthwhile for cropping, macros, and large prints, etc Shake reduction in the body - very, very handy...up to four stops extra for hand held photography in low light. Dust reduction (coating on sensor and sensor shake) - vital for anyone who changes lenses occasionally (or constantly like me)! I'm sick of cloning out dust spots on my images. Much faster auto focus - the slow AF on my current camera gives me the sh*ts in a big way. Iso 100 - my current camera only goes to iso 200, great for when you want a long exposure for movement in bright conditions. Ability to shoot RAW and JPEG simultaneously - could come in handy. Weather sealed body - fantastic! Larger buffer, faster write speed = more shots in continuous mode before it slows down - my current camera is crap in this regard Remote control sensors on front AND rear of camera - very handy Penta prism view finder - my current camera has a penta mirror and is darker and smaller Ability to bracket exposure and white balance...up to five shots - very handy for the high dynamic range landscapes I often shoot Illuminated lcd - my camera isn't illuminated. Switch on body to change between continuous and single auto focus mode - current camera I have to do this through the menu...annoying! Switch on body to change metering modes - again, I have to use the menu for this and it's a huge source of frustration when trying to shoot quickly ( I change metering modes quite often). 11 AF sensors and quick easy control on the body to select the in focus point or between auto and central - current camera...centre or wide only and must be selected through the menu They're just the major advances off the top of my head! Basically, the specs and design of this camera address every single gripe I've had with my current camera and adds quite a few very handy features I hadn't thought of. If I were given cart blanche to design the perfect DSLR for me with current technology, this would be pretty much it. All that and it's only slightly more expensive than my current camera was a year ago! This camera is pretty much a direct competitor of the Nikon D200 and your Canon for a fraction of the cost, and with cheaper, good quality lenses available. Is that enough? :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D aimed as D200 killer
Lol, I tried babelfish on the original Japanese site...what a waste of time. The translation made less sense than the original Japanese! Quoting Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I for one am not griping about the image quality of the K10D. How could I? I'm griping about something more nether, nore ethereal than that! I'm griping about a 3rd party Japanese translation! Tom C. Original Message Follows From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K10D aimed as D200 killer Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 14:30:39 +1100 I also don't understand the gripes people have about the IQ of the K10D when nobody has really seen images that can really be used for comparisons. A friend (who has a Canon 30D) asked me in an email today so how come it's so special? in response to my excitement about the K10D. Here's my response, the first time I've really documented (and thought out) the reasons why I want the new camera so much in comparison to my *ist DL. Things that this camera has that my current couldn't dream of: 10mp vs 6mp - not hugely important, but worthwhile for cropping, macros, and large prints, etc Shake reduction in the body - very, very handy...up to four stops extra for hand held photography in low light. Dust reduction (coating on sensor and sensor shake) - vital for anyone who changes lenses occasionally (or constantly like me)! I'm sick of cloning out dust spots on my images. Much faster auto focus - the slow AF on my current camera gives me the sh*ts in a big way. Iso 100 - my current camera only goes to iso 200, great for when you want a long exposure for movement in bright conditions. Ability to shoot RAW and JPEG simultaneously - could come in handy. Weather sealed body - fantastic! Larger buffer, faster write speed = more shots in continuous mode before it slows down - my current camera is crap in this regard Remote control sensors on front AND rear of camera - very handy Penta prism view finder - my current camera has a penta mirror and is darker and smaller Ability to bracket exposure and white balance...up to five shots - very handy for the high dynamic range landscapes I often shoot Illuminated lcd - my camera isn't illuminated. Switch on body to change between continuous and single auto focus mode - current camera I have to do this through the menu...annoying! Switch on body to change metering modes - again, I have to use the menu for this and it's a huge source of frustration when trying to shoot quickly ( I change metering modes quite often). 11 AF sensors and quick easy control on the body to select the in focus point or between auto and central - current camera...centre or wide only and must be selected through the menu They're just the major advances off the top of my head! Basically, the specs and design of this camera address every single gripe I've had with my current camera and adds quite a few very handy features I hadn't thought of. If I were given cart blanche to design the perfect DSLR for me with current technology, this would be pretty much it. All that and it's only slightly more expensive than my current camera was a year ago! This camera is pretty much a direct competitor of the Nikon D200 and your Canon for a fraction of the cost, and with cheaper, good quality lenses available. Is that enough? :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO - Dawn from the clifftops
This is a shot I took in February and never really did anything with. I revisited it on the weekend armed with a few more months of experience with photoshop. I processed the RAW file twice, once for shadow detail and once for highlights and sky colour. I then blended them in PS CS2. I tried to keep it looking natural so I haven't gone overboard...I just tried to do enough to render the scene as I saw it. I've deliberately kept it a little on the dark side for that reason. Any lighter and I started to lose the colour saturation of the sky. If I compensated for that, then it started to look over ps'd and unnatural. To me, this result is as close as I can get to how the scene looked to the naked eye as the sun rose behind the cliff face. http://tinyurl.com/y3ak86 As always, comments and critique welcomed. Cheers James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
getting year of production from Pentax serial numbers
I'd like to know what year my 67 was made. Does anyone know who I should contact to ascertain this? I assume Pentax could tell me from the serial number, but I tried that with my LX. I sent an email to Pentax USA (there's no Pentax .au site) and never had a reply. Cheers James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
67...now my lens has arrived
My 67 75mm f4.5 lens has just arrived and it looks to be in great shape. I've mounted it on the camera and had my first play with focussing, etc. The meter works fine, but the viewfinder is very dark...far too dark and indistinct to make focussing possible. Sitting in my office under quite bright flouro lights, it is impossible with this prism and focussing screen combination to tell whether the image is in focus or not. The image is blurred at all times. Aha!! I just thought of something. A previous owner had fitted a diopter adjustment lens in the finder. I've removed it and I can now focus! Disaster averted, back to regular programming :) Now I just need to get through this first roll. :D -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OZ K10D Price
Interesting. CR Kennedy have been telling me all along that it would come with the Sigma 18-50 lens. If it comes with the Pentax lens for only $90 more, that's fine by me. Also, someone at CRK HQ in Vic told me last week that they expect their first shipment in late November. James Quoting David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]: FYI Aussie PDML'ers, I just received this from my local camera store: $1349 - K10D Body only $1589 - K10D with Pentax 18-55mm Lens $1799 - K10D with Pentax 16-45mm Lens $359 - Grip D-BG2 And as far as they were aware stock would be available in the first week of November (we'll see). Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
My 67 has arrived
I'm like a kid on Christmas Eve! My wife has rung me at work to say my Pentax 67 has arrived from the US. Now I'm stuck at work for 3 more hours before I can go home and play with it! I've never seen a 67 in the flesh, only in photos, so I'm looking forward to it. Fedex have just called to say my 75mm f4.5 67 lens will be delivered to me at work tomorrow. :-D I've just bought a roll of Fuji Pro 160S 120 colour neg film to load into the camera. Let the fun begin! James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: My 67 has arrived
Quoting William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: My 67 has arrived I'm like a kid on Christmas Eve! My wife has rung me at work to say my Pentax 67 has arrived from the US. Now I'm stuck at work for 3 more hours before I can go home and play with it! I've never seen a 67 in the flesh, only in photos, so I'm looking forward to it. When I bought my 6x7 it was sight unseen as well. An ad that Pentax was running at the time showed a fellow dressed in Tilley looking over a rock with a 6x7 in his hand. I was expecting a big camera based on the ad. After the camera arrived, I realized that Pentax had hired the biggest male model they could find for that ad. I am interested to read what your initial reaction to the camera is. William Robb Lol I asked my wife to open the package to confirm the camera had a battery and the battery was not dead. I knew when she'd got through the last of the packaging to the camera itself as there were a couple of four letter words gasped under her breath and then the comment don't even think of asking me to use that thing! So, I'm expecting a pretty big lump of metal. :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: My 67 has arrived
I got the later 67 with MLU and metered prism. Quoting William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: My 67 has arrived Which version of the camera did you get? is it the 6x7 or the 67? Did you get the meter prism? William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Long forgotten
Thanks mate. I didn't want to climb the fence and therefore I was pretty restricted in terms of framing and composition. I see what you mean about the lean, I must admit I hadn't noticed it before. The colour version is very colourful. It's here: http://tinyurl.com/yahxs8 Quoting Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As it happened, I drove past that very shack only last week. As I passed I thought of turning back to take a photo or two. Pity I didn't, really I don't see the problems mentioned by Jack and Godfrey although I think I'd have liked to see just a bit more on the right hand side. I'd also like to see the colour version. I suspect that that tree in the centre is going to have some great golden yellow tones. The only thing I find really distracting is the lean on the left hand side. Maybe that's the way it really is, but is this version an improved perspective? http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/shackmono1.jpg Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia I thoughtQuoting J and K Messervy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is an old shack by the side of the Monaro Highway between Canberra and Cooma in NSW Australia. I'd driven past this a number of times and thought I should take some shots, so back in April, I did just that. This one was my favourite. I used the channel mixer in PS CS2 to get this black and white effect. http://tinyurl.com/yjzscz Shot with *ist DL, Sigma 18-50 f3.5 -5.6 DC Exposure time: 0.0050 s (1/200) Aperture: f/4.5 ISO equiv.: 200 Exposure bias: -1.00 Comments and constructive criticism appreciated. -- Get a spam free email account - Visit http://www.bluebottle.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Remedial film photography. :)
Can someone please explain to me the reason that people load 50 iso film and shoot it with the camera set at 12 iso (numbers just for example). What are the benefits of doing this? It doesn't change the speed of the film...just the speed the camera's meter thinks the film is. I assume it is so you can selectively over or under expose a bit, but can't you just do that with your exposure setting? As you can tell, I don't understand why people over or under rate the iso of their film deliberately. James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Samsung 50-200 [Was: Re: Thoughs on lenses for K100D]
Yes, but are they K mount? :) Quoting graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I noticed that Samsung is now making highend washers and dryers too. --graywolf Shel Belinkoff wrote: Assuming that it's the exact same lens for a moment, the next questions might be about service availability and warranty, and then possible resale value. Shel [Original Message] From: Toine After reading all the positive comments on the pentax 50-200 and spotting the samsung 50-200 for 149 vs 220 euros I think I see a new enablement on the horizon. The big question is, if it really is exactly the same lens including SMC coating. Or should I keep my (heavy) SMC-F 70-210 ??? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
File size of scanned 6x7 neg
I've got a mate telling me a high res drum scan of a 6x7 neg would only be 10MB in TIFF format. Surely it would be in the hundreds of MB neighbourhood wouldn't it? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Show in Japan
Hell, I don't even know what moire is! Quoting Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From one of Ken's reports: Pentax explanation on the floor said they were not forcing the removal of the nosie, colour noise or colour moire. Instead, they are going by the extremely finer gradation to render very natural images. They further said that if anyone would be bothered by the colour moire etc, it can be easily removed by post processing. I have been thinking this over the past couple of days. Moire? I haven't seen moire raised previously as an issue in the K10D. Pentax seems to be saying: Noise? Moire? Remove them yourselves. For the noise, that is probably okay. I don't want high ISO K10D images to look soft like the D80 ones do. But how does one remove moire? And why should it be an issue in the camera? (Why did Pentax even bring it up?) Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Re: Show in Japan
Aha...yes I see some colour lines there, but you really have to be looking right up close to spot it. I can't see that bothering me. James Quoting Ken Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 10/17/06, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Moire is the odd patterns you sometimes see in fine (high frequency) detail in digital shots or scans. -Adam Actually, I just accidentally found the thread in Japan wherein folks are talking about the moire, taking an examplke of Pnteax's recent sample. http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/35mm/k10d/image/ex_02.jpg This is the sample 2 shown in the K10D site. If you look really close at the area of her right shoulder between her arm and hair, you might be able to see some colour moire. It is hard to see but it's there. The fabric is supposed to be pure white but has a very fine thread pattern. They all say this is moire, and are not all concerned about it. Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 35mm equivalent focal length on P6x7
I'll be using it almost exclusively outdoors for landscapes, etc. I will probably have it set at or near infinity for much of the time, so this isn't likely to be too much of an issue. I'll just have to watch for flare. I'm probably going to pick one up from KEH for less than $200USD. James Quoting William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton Subject: Re: 35mm equivalent focal length on P6x7 You could be right. But it was only comparing f4 to f4.5. It was harder to focus than my 55/4 which was even wider and not much faster. The images obtained with it were just fine. I chose it over the 75/2.8 because of cost. I'm not saying it is one I would not get, only my experience with it. Other than flare, I never had any quibbes with the pictures the 75/4.5 tak made. I did find it to be a hard lens to focus in anything other than fairly bright light. It was a pain to use in the studio or an indoor location for this reason. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: steel and soccer
Quoting David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Oct 16, 2006, at 1:39 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=1706216 Nice. I really like the colours. - Dave I don't know what it has to do with soccer, but it's a beautifully exposed shot. Very peaceful with great colour. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
100mm filter size?!
Yikes...I'm bidding on a super multi coated Takumar 55mm f3.5 6X7 lens on Ebay and by all accounts this is a beautifully sharp wide angle, but has a 100mm front element. Considering 55mm is a great landscape focal length in that format, how hard (and expensive) is it going to be for me to get a polariser for this? :o/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 100mm filter size?!
Yes, I think I found a polariser on BH for about $200USD. Ouch! Quoting P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Be afraid, be very afraid...95mm circular polarizer filters go for more than $100.00 here. http://photofilter.com/hoya__standard.htm#Hoya_Standard I can only guess that a 100mm would cost, it's available at all. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yikes...I'm bidding on a super multi coated Takumar 55mm f3.5 6X7 lens on Ebay and by all accounts this is a beautifully sharp wide angle, but has a 100mm front element. Considering 55mm is a great landscape focal length in that format, how hard (and expensive) is it going to be for me to get a polariser for this? :o/ -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Show in Japan
Quoting Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm sorry Ken but I don't believe a word of this. Experts on the PDML have counted the incoming photons and outgoing electrons and proven conclusively that Pentax engineers don't know what they're doing and that the processing engine of the K10D doesn't work. ;-) * Yeah, and since the K10D only deals with real apertures and not simulated ones, I'm seriously considering cancelling my pre-order. James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Wanted to buy - Pentax 6x7
Trying to buy on Ebay drives me nuts. I had a body lined up in the US. The auction had ended and the seller agreed to relist at a price I'd offered with buy it now. I watched and waited for several days for him to get around to it. He finally did it...in the middle of the night Australian time. Of course, by the time I got up and saw it, someone else had bought it. :/ I'm watching a lot of other auctions, but between ridiculously high prices and dodgy sellers, it's not looking too good. Is there anyone on the list who'd like to part with any Pentax 6x7 gear? I want a body with MLU, pref a prism, but waist level finder is ok. I will also want one lens to start with, pref wide angle. My budget isn't huge, but is realisticat least to get a body and finder. If I can't get a decent 67, then I'll get 645 gear, but 67 is my preference. Let me know. Thanks James Messervy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Wanted to buy - Pentax 6x7
Well, I just won an MLU 67 with metered prism for USD$321. Shipping will be another USD$68. The body looks to be in very good condition from the photos on the listing, and it is a business seller. I think it's a reasonable price, although I still have to find the money for a lens. :( Quoting Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There was a pdmler that used to post here named Aaron. He was talking about giving up his 6x7 gear because the upcoming K10D was soo good. ;) rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trying to buy on Ebay drives me nuts. I had a body lined up in the US. The auction had ended and the seller agreed to relist at a price I'd offered with buy it now. I watched and waited for several days for him to get around to it. He finally did it...in the middle of the night Australian time. Of course, by the time I got up and saw it, someone else had bought it. :/ I'm watching a lot of other auctions, but between ridiculously high prices and dodgy sellers, it's not looking too good. Is there anyone on the list who'd like to part with any Pentax 6x7 gear? I want a body with MLU, pref a prism, but waist level finder is ok. I will also want one lens to start with, pref wide angle. My budget isn't huge, but is realisticat least to get a body and finder. If I can't get a decent 67, then I'll get 645 gear, but 67 is my preference. Let me know. Thanks James Messervy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
was Wanted to buy - Pentax 6x7...now looking for a 6x7 lens
Now I need to find an affordable lens. Preferably 45 or 65 mm, but ultimately I'll get whatever I can afford to get me started. James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
hand held meters
Once I have a P6x7, I will probably not have a metering prism and will therefore need to purchase and use a handheld meter. Never having done this before (I started playing with photography well into the age of in-camera metering) I have little idea of what I need or how it works. If I'm largely going to be doing landscapes, am I right to assume that a reflective meter would be best? How much will a half decent meter set me back? It may be cheaper to buy a TTL metering prism. Any advice appreciated as hand held metering is a mystery to me! James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: hand held meters
That's what I thought. Spot meters are expensive though aren't they? I will shoot slides and negs. Quoting J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Incident meters wont do you any good if the distant Landscape is under different light local to the camera. That's why the need for the spotmeters. But once again. If youre shooting color or BW negative films, exact exposure Isnt really that critical especially if you give it a +1 Stop exposure compensate ( set ISO film speed on meter to half The film's rating ). JCO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob W Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 8:25 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: hand held meters You really need to have an incident meter. This measures the light that's falling on the subject, and in general gives you the most accurate reading. However, many people who do their own processing and printing and use the zone system like to use a spotmeter. I would recommend a combined meter, which will also include wide-area reflected metering. Metering is generally pretty simple and lacking in mystery - most basic photography books explain it adequately. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 October 2006 00:16 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: hand held meters Once I have a P6x7, I will probably not have a metering prism and will therefore need to purchase and use a handheld meter. Never having done this before (I started playing with photography well into the age of in-camera metering) I have little idea of what I need or how it works. If I'm largely going to be doing landscapes, am I right to assume that a reflective meter would be best? How much will a half decent meter set me back? It may be cheaper to buy a TTL metering prism. Any advice appreciated as hand held metering is a mystery to me! James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Ebay risk and protection
Consider this scenario: An item you are looking for is available at a very good price (buy it now). The seller is a relatively new ebay member and has zero feedback. The seller in in China. The seller can't accept Paypal. Now, if I knew for certain that this was for real and above board, I'd buy the item immediately. There seem to be too many unknowns though and I can't be certain the item will arrive as promised. What would you do? If it is for real, I couldn't bear to miss out...if it isn't, I can't afford to blow my money. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Ebay risk and protection
Quoting Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Consider this scenario: An item you are looking for is available at a very good price (buy it now). The seller is a relatively new ebay member and has zero feedback. The seller in in China. The seller can't accept Paypal. Now, if I knew for certain that this was for real and above board, I'd buy the item immediately. There seem to be too many unknowns though and I can't be certain the item will arrive as promised. What would you do? If it is for real, I couldn't bear to miss out...if it isn't, I can't afford to blow my money. Scam. Damn near guaranteed. No Paypal, China and zero feedback. -Adam That's what I'm thinking. It is firmly in the too good to be true category...a Pentax 67 II with 4 lenses and metered prism for AUD$520 buy it now. That's about $2000 too cheap! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: hand held meters
I hadn't thought of that, I could always use my K10D (once it arrives). :) Quoting P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Heck I've been using my *ist-Ds as a light meter to shoot with my new Kodak Medalist. Those 6x9 exposures are just too expensive to waste. Scott Loveless wrote: On 10/10/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once I have a P6x7, I will probably not have a metering prism and will therefore need to purchase and use a handheld meter. Never having done this before (I started playing with photography well into the age of in-camera metering) I have little idea of what I need or how it works. If I'm largely going to be doing landscapes, am I right to assume that a reflective meter would be best? How much will a half decent meter set me back? It may be cheaper to buy a TTL metering prism. Any advice appreciated as hand held metering is a mystery to me! You might take a look at a point and shoot digital. Some of them have an exposure metering function. If you zoom the lens, you can narrow down the area you're metering. Although not as precise as a 1 degree spot meter, and perhaps not as accurate, it certainly would be a cost effective path to take. I've used the 750z in this capacity with my C220 quite a few times. Plus, if you run out of film you can keep shooting with the digicam! -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
35mm equivalent focal length on P6x7
Hi all I may be on the verge of purchasing a 6x7 body and I'm wondering what the conversion is for focal lengths since I'm used to thinking in 35mm focal lengths. I won't really have much of a budget for lenses, etc so I'll have to start with only one. Considering what I plan to mostly use the body for, I want a wide angle. Can someone please suggest a good wide angle for the 6x7 for landscapes? Preferably one that's fairly readily available used and not too expensive. :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
K10D - I've placed my order
Well I bit the bullet yesterday and put a deposit down on a K10D without a firm availability date or even retail price for Aus. I want to make sure I have one before Christmas and at least this way I can ensure I get one from the first shipment. James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
